April 7, 2025 • 14 mins
Indoor air quality affects our health in ways we don't immediately recognize, with radon and mold being the most common but widely misunderstood threats in our homes. Professional testing and proper remediation protocols are essential for addressing these silent dangers that can cause serious health issues over time.
• Radon is an odorless, colorless radioactive gas that causes no immediate symptoms but is responsible for 21,000 lung cancer deaths yearly
• Long-term exposure to lower radon levels can be more dangerous than short-term exposure to higher levels
• Any house foundation type can have radon issues – slab homes are not immune to high readings
• Mold is always a symptom of a moisture problem that must be fixed first before remediation
• Mycotoxins from mold are serious health threats and new air testing capabilities can now detect these compounds
• VOC testing helps identify chemical off-gassing from new materials or active mold growth
• Ethical companies will only recommend necessary testing rather than selling unneeded services
• Post-remediation verification testing ensures air quality has returned to acceptable levels
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the Standing Out in Ohio podcast,
where we discuss topics,upcoming events, news and
predictions with real estateprofessionals and entrepreneurs.
Listen and learn what makestheir companies and themselves
stand out and gain advantagesover the competition and gain
market share.
Subscribe for the latest newsand discussion on what it takes
(00:23):
to stand out from the crowd.
Now here's your host, jim.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Hey everybody, welcome to the Stand Out how
Podcast.
This is Jim.
I'm here with Laura laughing atme as I speak oddly.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Drink your coffee, baby.
I will, I will.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
All right.
So indoor air quality how doyou think most people define
that?
That what they, what they thinkabout for right off the bat
like mold is probably thebiggest one.
Yeah I would agree with that.
I would say maybe they thinkcarbon monoxide maybe I even get
a question.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
I I haven't been breathing well.
I'm concerned it's radon.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Does that make?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
sense.
A lot of people don't know, butdoes that make sense?
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Well, how about we do this?
How about we listen to ourbreak and then we come back and
talk about it?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
All right, let's listen to this.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Habitation investigation is the way to go
for a home inspection in ohio.
Trusted licensed homeinspectors for your needs from
radon to mold to warranties fora great home inspection, you
really can't go wrong.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Visit home inspections in ohiocom all right
, laura okay, so I'll just sayan older person says hey, I'm
having trouble breathing.
Can you see if I have radon?
Does that make sense to you?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
no, it does not, would you like me to know?
Well, actually, maybe if it'san older person and they've
lifted the house for a long,time yes, true.
So okay.
So here's the deal with radonRadon is an odorless, colorless
radioactive gas.
It can come into any foundationtype.
All it needs is a crack airflowto come up through.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Radon does not immediately cause breathing
issues, does not immediatelycause cancer, does not
immediately cause pneumonia oranything like that, because it
doesn't cause pneumonia orbreathing issues.
So if I walk into a house thathas high radon, I'm not going to
feel that.
No, my breathing wouldn't bechanged.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Not at first.
No.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
So if you're living there for years, if you're
living there for years and yearsor are susceptible, or smoke.
If you're smoking, do youreally care about your health
all that much?
Let's be honest a little bitthere.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
But anyway, if you smoke, yeah, radon is going to
Eight times more likely to causecancer Lung cancer.
Yes, rad radon is going toEight times more likely to cause
cancer.
Lung cancer yes.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Radon only is related to lung cancer.
So- 21,000 lung cancer deaths ayear attributed to radon.
And if you smoke, you arepersonally eight times more
likely to get lung cancer.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
We have this year actually gotten a lot more calls
from kids whose parents havedied like obviously older and
they died from lung cancer andnever smoked a day in their life
.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
You know when you said that it's like you imagine
how sad it would be to get acall from an eight-year-old kid.
Yeah, my parents died.
Can you see what's going on?
Speaker 3 (03:45):
no, anyways, it was not an eight-year-old, okay, it
was like an adult.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
It was an adult like they were in the 30s or 40s I'm
like oh shit that'd be bad no,that'd be tragic, that would
very much be.
But these were all older, theyall had, you know like sorry to
be a downer for everybody, butno, that was not the case.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
They had still said that they had cancer and they
never smoked and they wanted toknow what was going on.
And they did have high radonlevels in their houses.
So in all probability that'swhat caused it.
But what they say statisticallyis that longer periods of time
and lower radon levels are moreapt to cause cancer than shorter
(04:28):
periods of time with higherlevels.
It's the long-term breathing itin that causes the cancer.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
So if you have long-term exposure to the higher
levels, that would be bad.
So it's not just, it's the timeand the amount.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
So, once again, radon does not cause any immediate
issues.
You're not going to catchpneumonia, you're not gonna have
problems breathing.
It is a little more sneaky thanthat it's sneaky now.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
It doesn't really.
It does not matter the type ofhouse where you'll find it
really doesn't have a type ofhouse foundation where you'll
find radon, mold, say carbonmonoxide, because the exhaust
doesn't do what it should forthe gas water heater.
I mean, we went into a houseyesterday, picked up a radon
monitor.
It was not a big house, housewas on a slab, single story
(05:23):
house on a slab.
The radon was what?
23 something, 23.9.
That's up there.
Epa tells you four or higher.
You should get it mitigated.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
It does not matter the type of structure.
You can still have high radon.
So that's one of the big myths.
So other indoor air qualityissue you said, so radon's one
issue that you'll think aboutthey think about mold was the
symptom of a moisture issue,which is no moisture, no mold
(05:57):
unless you had your.
You had mold growing becauseyou had a moisture problem.
You had a leak and you fixedthe leak but you never cleaned
up.
You're going to have moldspores just kind of flitting
about.
They're not growing anymore.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
And possibly mycotoxins, because we're
learning more about mycotoxinsnow too, mycotoxins, yeah, so
that could be another podcast.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah, mycotoxins is another indoor air quality issue
.
That just because they floataround and now I think we're the
only company in the state thatcan do air testing for
mycotoxins.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
I think we are right now.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
We'll definitely be the longest standing company
that that can do a mycotoxintesting in the air with that.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
That's a newer test virus, yeah that's just been out
within the last couple of years.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
But that's one of the tests.
If there's never any moldissues in the house, there's no
need to test for the mycotoxin.
There's no point in doing that.
That would not be the firsttest you want to do.
So say, somebody calls you andgoes hey, they're feeling sick.
They don't understand why ithappens in a certain area of the
house.
What would be?
I know we have like a kind ofmental flow chart we have
(07:00):
written down.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
We have a form that we would kind of like Go through
with them, like over the courseKind of go to your doctor and
he goes hey, what's going on?
Speaker 2 (07:09):
He'll write down that and he'll kind of through
deduction, kind of figure outwhat the issue is.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
That's kind of like what we do, very similar, yes.
And upon what they say, whatmight be one test you would do?
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Let's go back to that one example with the wife that
had breathing problems in thekitchen and the garage.
So they were asking questionsabout VOC and mold testing.
So one thing about VOC is thatit can tell you if mold is
actively growing, because asmold grows it puts off its own
(07:45):
form of a VOC called an MVOC.
So we could tell them if moldwas actively growing, but we
couldn't tell them what kind oranything like that more, for if
you've remodeled lately or ifthere's new stuff that you've
(08:05):
brought into the house, or if itis a new house, or whatever the
case may be, it's, it's more ofher chemicals.
Yeah, voc looks like chemicalsin the air so when I looked
through her chemicals, a lot ofit was like scent free.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
She used vinegar for stuff.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I looked because I'm like, okay, should I do that?
The only thing that she hadthat could potentially have
thrown something up was likethose alcohol sanitation wipes.
You know like that andeverybody uses those and that's
going to come back to youralcohol.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yeah, ethyl alcohol, yep.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Which is what I told them.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
It's going to evaporate quickly.
You don't use those all thetime they're not just sitting
out, so I have seen a few peopleuse them all the time and they
were self-reflecting their ownissue.
But anyway, back to this houseso.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
So we talked about the fact they haven't done any
remodeling.
They haven't changed anything.
So there's really no sense todo a vocC, because VOCs are
basically cause when manproduces something, and when
they put it together, theycombine it with chemicals and
then, as it sits in your house,those chemicals come out of it
and it's called off gassing.
(09:13):
And that's what can make peoplesick if you don't get rid of
that gas that's coming off.
But they had nothing like that.
So why make them pay for a testthat they don't need rid of
that gas that's coming off, butthey had nothing like that, so
why?
Why make them pay for a testthat they don't need?
right, so so then it was then wetalked about the mold that'd be
mold testing.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yes, and and you actually saw.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
I actually saw moisture issue, but once again,
there's no mold that you want,there's nothing that yeah you
know.
So what my suggestion was usethe money that you would have
had to get this test, get thisarea fixed up and cleaned up,
and then I can come in and I cando a test afterwards and let
(09:52):
you know that there's nothing inthe air and that it's you know
that it's, it's been taken careof for you.
Yeah, because I mean and andyou know some people might like
be like, well, you, you needthat pre-test to know that it's
clean.
No, I, I mean yes, but no, whenI go and I test it at the end,
if it's not anything in therethat's dangerous or it's similar
(10:13):
to outside, they're done, it'snot a problem.
Why make them pay more moneyfor something?
Speaker 2 (10:19):
in a a case like this , what we're seeing, okay, this
this is obvious.
You have this going on, almostguaranteed it's mold.
We didn't test it, but darngood chance it's mold, but it's
definitely a moisture issue,which tells us-.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
It's 99.9.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Yeah, like you said, there's no species of mold you
want to keep or you're okay withhaving in your house.
So it's like, why bothertesting?
That's something that kind ofmakes us unique as a company.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
We're not going to just oh, yeah, you got to pay
this and we'll do this, somepeople that won't even go out
and do like a mold test or amold inspection for under 1200
see that's insane.
That's insane like just flatand like they've they've told me
this personally they don't goout unless it's 1200 minimum.
Yeah, and I get that, like Iknow your time is valuable, but
(11:11):
you know you're talking aboutpeople that have bills and that
have medical problems andthey're trying to figure that
out and they don't have themoney, so trying to do the best
that you can for them and stillyeah.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
We're not going to rip people off.
Yeah, if you have, you have amold issue.
I'm like, all right, gotta doremediation right and you may be
a little time off work.
It gets expensive.
So yeah, we have to charge.
We have lab fees, we haveexpenses, we have to pay the
inspectors equipment there's somany things that add up, it's
amazing.
But we're very affordable andwe're not we're not gonna gouge
(11:48):
somebody.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
if you don't need it, you don't need it, they don't
need it.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
They don't need it.
So I'm thinking about it onthis one.
So VOC test that we do is good.
General indoor air quality.
There's mold actively growingand then weird chemicals.
That's more like when we don'tsee a big moisture issue
anywhere.
We're like, all right, let'sjust see what's in the air.
If we do, if somebody has aproblem and we see moisture
(12:13):
issue, all right, mold now maybewe do a test to see how spread
it is within the house.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
That might be something they'd be interested
in doing but once again they'regoing to be spending so much
having a company come out.
Well, I know and I would ratherdo post clearance testing for
them and to make sure yes, yesand and you can write protocol.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
You know what the protocol is all?
Formal remediator, even thoughthere's no licensing or
requirements in ohio.
Definitely have laura here withenvironmental consultants of
ohio yeah, I got my normie prodesignation yes, I think did we
talk about that?
I don't think we did.
I have to look through theepisode make sure.
I kind of thought we did, butmaybe you should give a whole
description of what that is.
(12:53):
But anyway, laura's the personin contact.
If you have a mold issue andyou have somebody fix it, have
her go.
Well, let me double check whatthey're doing.
First, because we've seen moldremediators not, not do it
correctly and they made theissue worse.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Well, plus if they don't kill the mold before they
start messing with it.
Oh, mycotoxin and they're yeah,and there's two separate
species of mold on top of thatwe can do this later.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
But yeah, never mind, you'll make mycotoxin, I'll
make people sick and that's awhole nother thing.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Because mycotoxins are actually used, with the DOD,
as chemical warfare.
Yes yes, it is.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Just saying that's something you want in your house
.
So anyway, we'll talk aboutthat.
I can't think of a little seguegoing with that Get more coffee
baby.
I do.
We will upload this, get a linkto that video.
We are on more share.
I think it was that this one.
That was maybe the otherpodcast, but anyway we'll get
you a link.
(13:54):
In there talks about the innerair quality test and things like
that oh, maybe we can put alink to that questionnaire yes,
give me that give me that webpage.
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to stand out from the crowd.
Now here's your host, jim.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Hey everybody, welcome to the Stand Out how
Podcast.
This is Jim.
I'm here with Laura laughing atme as I speak oddly.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Drink your coffee, baby.
I will, I will.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
All right.
So indoor air quality how doyou think most people define
that?
That what they, what they thinkabout for right off the bat
like mold is probably thebiggest one.
Yeah I would agree with that.
I would say maybe they thinkcarbon monoxide maybe I even get
a question.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
I I haven't been breathing well.
I'm concerned it's radon.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Does that make?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
sense.
A lot of people don't know, butdoes that make sense?
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Well, how about we do this?
How about we listen to ourbreak and then we come back and
talk about it?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
All right, let's listen to this.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Habitation investigation is the way to go
for a home inspection in ohio.
Trusted licensed homeinspectors for your needs from
radon to mold to warranties fora great home inspection, you
really can't go wrong.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Visit home inspections in ohiocom all right
, laura okay, so I'll just sayan older person says hey, I'm
having trouble breathing.
Can you see if I have radon?
Does that make sense to you?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
no, it does not, would you like me to know?
Well, actually, maybe if it'san older person and they've
lifted the house for a long,time yes, true.
So okay.
So here's the deal with radonRadon is an odorless, colorless
radioactive gas.
It can come into any foundationtype.
All it needs is a crack airflowto come up through.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Radon does not immediately cause breathing
issues, does not immediatelycause cancer, does not
immediately cause pneumonia oranything like that, because it
doesn't cause pneumonia orbreathing issues.
So if I walk into a house thathas high radon, I'm not going to
feel that.
No, my breathing wouldn't bechanged.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Not at first.
No.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
So if you're living there for years, if you're
living there for years and yearsor are susceptible, or smoke.
If you're smoking, do youreally care about your health
all that much?
Let's be honest a little bitthere.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
But anyway, if you smoke, yeah, radon is going to
Eight times more likely to causecancer Lung cancer.
Yes, rad radon is going toEight times more likely to cause
cancer.
Lung cancer yes.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Radon only is related to lung cancer.
So- 21,000 lung cancer deaths ayear attributed to radon.
And if you smoke, you arepersonally eight times more
likely to get lung cancer.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
We have this year actually gotten a lot more calls
from kids whose parents havedied like obviously older and
they died from lung cancer andnever smoked a day in their life
.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
You know when you said that it's like you imagine
how sad it would be to get acall from an eight-year-old kid.
Yeah, my parents died.
Can you see what's going on?
Speaker 3 (03:45):
no, anyways, it was not an eight-year-old, okay, it
was like an adult.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
It was an adult like they were in the 30s or 40s I'm
like oh shit that'd be bad no,that'd be tragic, that would
very much be.
But these were all older, theyall had, you know like sorry to
be a downer for everybody, butno, that was not the case.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
They had still said that they had cancer and they
never smoked and they wanted toknow what was going on.
And they did have high radonlevels in their houses.
So in all probability that'swhat caused it.
But what they say statisticallyis that longer periods of time
and lower radon levels are moreapt to cause cancer than shorter
(04:28):
periods of time with higherlevels.
It's the long-term breathing itin that causes the cancer.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
So if you have long-term exposure to the higher
levels, that would be bad.
So it's not just, it's the timeand the amount.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
So, once again, radon does not cause any immediate
issues.
You're not going to catchpneumonia, you're not gonna have
problems breathing.
It is a little more sneaky thanthat it's sneaky now.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
It doesn't really.
It does not matter the type ofhouse where you'll find it
really doesn't have a type ofhouse foundation where you'll
find radon, mold, say carbonmonoxide, because the exhaust
doesn't do what it should forthe gas water heater.
I mean, we went into a houseyesterday, picked up a radon
monitor.
It was not a big house, housewas on a slab, single story
(05:23):
house on a slab.
The radon was what?
23 something, 23.9.
That's up there.
Epa tells you four or higher.
You should get it mitigated.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
It does not matter the type of structure.
You can still have high radon.
So that's one of the big myths.
So other indoor air qualityissue you said, so radon's one
issue that you'll think aboutthey think about mold was the
symptom of a moisture issue,which is no moisture, no mold
(05:57):
unless you had your.
You had mold growing becauseyou had a moisture problem.
You had a leak and you fixedthe leak but you never cleaned
up.
You're going to have moldspores just kind of flitting
about.
They're not growing anymore.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
And possibly mycotoxins, because we're
learning more about mycotoxinsnow too, mycotoxins, yeah, so
that could be another podcast.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah, mycotoxins is another indoor air quality issue
.
That just because they floataround and now I think we're the
only company in the state thatcan do air testing for
mycotoxins.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
I think we are right now.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
We'll definitely be the longest standing company
that that can do a mycotoxintesting in the air with that.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
That's a newer test virus, yeah that's just been out
within the last couple of years.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
But that's one of the tests.
If there's never any moldissues in the house, there's no
need to test for the mycotoxin.
There's no point in doing that.
That would not be the firsttest you want to do.
So say, somebody calls you andgoes hey, they're feeling sick.
They don't understand why ithappens in a certain area of the
house.
What would be?
I know we have like a kind ofmental flow chart we have
(07:00):
written down.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
We have a form that we would kind of like Go through
with them, like over the courseKind of go to your doctor and
he goes hey, what's going on?
Speaker 2 (07:09):
He'll write down that and he'll kind of through
deduction, kind of figure outwhat the issue is.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
That's kind of like what we do, very similar, yes.
And upon what they say, whatmight be one test you would do?
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Let's go back to that one example with the wife that
had breathing problems in thekitchen and the garage.
So they were asking questionsabout VOC and mold testing.
So one thing about VOC is thatit can tell you if mold is
actively growing, because asmold grows it puts off its own
(07:45):
form of a VOC called an MVOC.
So we could tell them if moldwas actively growing, but we
couldn't tell them what kind oranything like that more, for if
you've remodeled lately or ifthere's new stuff that you've
(08:05):
brought into the house, or if itis a new house, or whatever the
case may be, it's, it's more ofher chemicals.
Yeah, voc looks like chemicalsin the air so when I looked
through her chemicals, a lot ofit was like scent free.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
She used vinegar for stuff.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I looked because I'm like, okay, should I do that?
The only thing that she hadthat could potentially have
thrown something up was likethose alcohol sanitation wipes.
You know like that andeverybody uses those and that's
going to come back to youralcohol.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yeah, ethyl alcohol, yep.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Which is what I told them.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
It's going to evaporate quickly.
You don't use those all thetime they're not just sitting
out, so I have seen a few peopleuse them all the time and they
were self-reflecting their ownissue.
But anyway, back to this houseso.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
So we talked about the fact they haven't done any
remodeling.
They haven't changed anything.
So there's really no sense todo a vocC, because VOCs are
basically cause when manproduces something, and when
they put it together, theycombine it with chemicals and
then, as it sits in your house,those chemicals come out of it
and it's called off gassing.
(09:13):
And that's what can make peoplesick if you don't get rid of
that gas that's coming off.
But they had nothing like that.
So why make them pay for a testthat they don't need rid of
that gas that's coming off, butthey had nothing like that, so
why?
Why make them pay for a testthat they don't need?
right, so so then it was then wetalked about the mold that'd be
mold testing.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yes, and and you actually saw.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
I actually saw moisture issue, but once again,
there's no mold that you want,there's nothing that yeah you
know.
So what my suggestion was usethe money that you would have
had to get this test, get thisarea fixed up and cleaned up,
and then I can come in and I cando a test afterwards and let
(09:52):
you know that there's nothing inthe air and that it's you know
that it's, it's been taken careof for you.
Yeah, because I mean and andyou know some people might like
be like, well, you, you needthat pre-test to know that it's
clean.
No, I, I mean yes, but no, whenI go and I test it at the end,
if it's not anything in therethat's dangerous or it's similar
(10:13):
to outside, they're done, it'snot a problem.
Why make them pay more moneyfor something?
Speaker 2 (10:19):
in a a case like this , what we're seeing, okay, this
this is obvious.
You have this going on, almostguaranteed it's mold.
We didn't test it, but darngood chance it's mold, but it's
definitely a moisture issue,which tells us-.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
It's 99.9.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Yeah, like you said, there's no species of mold you
want to keep or you're okay withhaving in your house.
So it's like, why bothertesting?
That's something that kind ofmakes us unique as a company.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
We're not going to just oh, yeah, you got to pay
this and we'll do this, somepeople that won't even go out
and do like a mold test or amold inspection for under 1200
see that's insane.
That's insane like just flatand like they've they've told me
this personally they don't goout unless it's 1200 minimum.
Yeah, and I get that, like Iknow your time is valuable, but
(11:11):
you know you're talking aboutpeople that have bills and that
have medical problems andthey're trying to figure that
out and they don't have themoney, so trying to do the best
that you can for them and stillyeah.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
We're not going to rip people off.
Yeah, if you have, you have amold issue.
I'm like, all right, gotta doremediation right and you may be
a little time off work.
It gets expensive.
So yeah, we have to charge.
We have lab fees, we haveexpenses, we have to pay the
inspectors equipment there's somany things that add up, it's
amazing.
But we're very affordable andwe're not we're not gonna gouge
(11:48):
somebody.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
if you don't need it, you don't need it, they don't
need it.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
They don't need it.
So I'm thinking about it onthis one.
So VOC test that we do is good.
General indoor air quality.
There's mold actively growingand then weird chemicals.
That's more like when we don'tsee a big moisture issue
anywhere.
We're like, all right, let'sjust see what's in the air.
If we do, if somebody has aproblem and we see moisture
(12:13):
issue, all right, mold now maybewe do a test to see how spread
it is within the house.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
That might be something they'd be interested
in doing but once again they'regoing to be spending so much
having a company come out.
Well, I know and I would ratherdo post clearance testing for
them and to make sure yes, yesand and you can write protocol.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
You know what the protocol is all?
Formal remediator, even thoughthere's no licensing or
requirements in ohio.
Definitely have laura here withenvironmental consultants of
ohio yeah, I got my normie prodesignation yes, I think did we
talk about that?
I don't think we did.
I have to look through theepisode make sure.
I kind of thought we did, butmaybe you should give a whole
description of what that is.
(12:53):
But anyway, laura's the personin contact.
If you have a mold issue andyou have somebody fix it, have
her go.
Well, let me double check whatthey're doing.
First, because we've seen moldremediators not, not do it
correctly and they made theissue worse.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Well, plus if they don't kill the mold before they
start messing with it.
Oh, mycotoxin and they're yeah,and there's two separate
species of mold on top of thatwe can do this later.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
But yeah, never mind, you'll make mycotoxin, I'll
make people sick and that's awhole nother thing.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Because mycotoxins are actually used, with the DOD,
as chemical warfare.
Yes yes, it is.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Just saying that's something you want in your house
.
So anyway, we'll talk aboutthat.
I can't think of a little seguegoing with that Get more coffee
baby.
I do.
We will upload this, get a linkto that video.
We are on more share.
I think it was that this one.
That was maybe the otherpodcast, but anyway we'll get
you a link.
(13:54):
In there talks about the innerair quality test and things like
that oh, maybe we can put alink to that questionnaire yes,
give me that give me that webpage.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
All right, I can do that all right, thanks everybody
you've been listening to thestanding out in Ohio podcast.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
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