NYCC Publishing Reveals, Blue Yoda, & The Importance of Time Jumps

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Time to abandon ship!

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Oh no!
Here we go!
Can I persuade you to join us for a drink?
It's a tradition.
Here, here.
Jar Jar, homie, my main man, quickly.
Before the separatists attack, get into the escape pod.

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Hey!
This is escape!
Then we're the pod!
This is the pod!
Welcome back to Star Wars Escape Pod.
I'm your host, Josh, and we have a great episode today with our co-host, Blake.
And who knows, maybe we'll have a voice or two popping in as we carry on here.

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But for this week, we're chatting a little bit about the Lucasfilm publishing reveals at the New York Comic Con.
The outcome of Tron Aries and Cameron Monaghan's little appearance in that movie.
An update from Quantic Dream about the upcoming Star Wars Eclipse video game.
A few action figures from Hasbro's six-inch series and who knows what else will come up.

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So, without further ado, let's get into it.
Another happy landing.

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A happy landing.
You're my brother!
Hi, hi, ciao!
Well, I guess we can end it here, then.
Only money!

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Oh, right, we better stay.
All right, well, bigger agents have a fun little start there.
How are you doing?
Doing all right.
Was that the right intro?
Yeah, I mean, I guess we're doing this as a regular episode this week.
Okay, that's not what I was told.
You know what?
Yeah, it is technically...

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Yeah, that is true.
Maybe I jotted in the calendar wrong.
I think I wrote down a canteen of banter.
But then I ended up coming up with enough stuff to make it not a canteen of banter.
Yeah, I was going to mention that Yoda used to be blue.
Yeah.
Maybe I should have met a canteen of banter.
Well, everybody, we have our 400th anniversary coming up.

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Actually, sorry, that sounded weird.
Not 400 years we have been around, but the 400th episode that we have been around.
So that comes out later in November, I guess, or early November, I guess.
Sounds about right.
Yeah, sounds about right.
I guess we'll wait and see.
But yeah, we are only weeks away and we're, you know, planning something special and Darian's going to host us a fun little game that we'll be playing and we'll have the precursing how that's going to work, I guess, the week before.

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So and a few of us are going to be involved.
Ben and Ellen are supposed to be coming back on as our some of our guest players and guest speakers in that episode.
And we're just going to have a good time.
It's going to be a very narratively driven game, not a role playing game, if anyone's trying to guess what it could be.
But but yeah, that's, you know, going to be good.
It's going to be good stuff.
Yeah. So keep that on your calendars, I guess, for, you know, stay tuned.

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It's a general rough timeline.
Yeah, I mean, what I mean is keep listening to Star Wars Escape Pod for exciting stuff for fun stuff.
I mean, we already be doing that anyway.
Yeah, I mean, we could already do that.
Hopefully.
Well, we don't have, you know, like a mind blowing set of news here.
But I mean, at the same time, I feel like we always.

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Yeah, we always come up with fun stuff like how this conversation about Blue Yoda came up like it.
Where did you read about Blue Yoda?
Apparently it was on the Guardian, believe it or not.
What?
Which is like a big newspaper.
Newspaper.
Blue Yoda.
Apparently.
So from the articles reading basically while the intro was playing.
I guess in the original screenplay, Yoda was blue and they changed him like last minute.

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Oh, yeah.
Review of screenplay, novel and comic suggests that the filmmakers made a late decision to make.
Yeah.
Make the Jedi Master Crane.
Oh, wow.
Shoot someone from like ILM or something.
Blue-ish.
I guess it would have been Tippett, right?
Is that right?
Who did?
Oh, it just looks like this is from the Marvel Comics Empire Strikes Back illustrated adaption
published in 1980.
I think I read it's in the screenplay as well though.

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Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Had producers of the Empire Strikes Back closely followed the final screenplay, then Yoda would
have been blue-ish.
There you go.
Oh, that is interesting.
I mean, how do I...
Turquoise, but...
It's kind of hard to imagine Yoda as any other color.
I know.
At this point?
It's almost like saying like...
That's why I thought it was worth mentioning.
Yeah.
It's almost like maybe saying, you know, like Jar Jar has been purple this whole time,

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even though we know him to be like this kind of reddish sort of tan color.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, maybe there's different Yoda species we don't know about.
Different colors from his planet.
Different toadstools that these creatures pop out of.
Is that what their official name is?
Toadstools.
For his species?
No idea.
But, but yeah, I think, I think people would have a hard time imagining what Grogu would

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look like if he was...
Yeah, I was just thinking that.
Can you imagine if they released...
I think people would say that he's not the same species if they made him blue.
Yeah.
You know, I feel like green was a good call, especially nowadays, because I feel like we
do have a lot of other blue aliens in Star Wars.
Like we've got the Pantorans, the Chiss.
It's true.
That's way later, but yeah.
Yeah.
There's the Duros.

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It's true.
They're blue.
Yeah.
The Neimoidians, I guess.
Kind of bluey gray.
The Neimoidians.
Well, I guess like Duke Gunray, he's like kind of mucousy green, but...
They're related to the Duros.
Oh yeah.
You mean like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Same, same family.
Yeah.
Maybe there's other sub families of that family.
You know, it's probably because if I were to guess, they're using blue screens.

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Toydarians.
Toydarians are blue, like Watto.
Yeah.
There's enough blue aliens out there.
We got Max Rebo.
Yeah.
There's too many.
It's a good thing they made him green.
We need some variety.
Nubs.
We need some more aliens on Team Greedo.
Any Young Jedi Knight fans out there?
Or Young Jedi Adventure fans out there?
Nubs.
Nubs.
Nubs.

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Nubs.
Did they make a Darth Nubs?
Actually, yeah, they did.
Uh, well...
Was he on the Falcon?
In a physical minifigure?
No.
Because he, I think, is only...
There was one set, and it was like 50 bucks for like eight pieces.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I never bought it.
No, you know what?
No, they didn't make a Darth Nubs.
No.
Like in a real life minifig?
No.
Yeah.
I was wondering if he was on the Falcon.
Right.

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No, the Dark Falcon?
No, yeah.
No, he didn't.
Sadly not.
But maybe one day.
I mean, they've only made one Nubs in general, and that's the original Nubs.
Exclusive.
Yeah.
Is that set still out?
Yeah, it's still out.
Yeah.
Probably pick it up on a discount.
Yeah, I think so.
I'll have to wait and scope it out.
Uh, so I was on a big Tron rant last week.
I think it was.
Finally saw the movie.
Uh, and it dawned on me that, uh, when I was, when we were talking about Tron, when

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I brought it up, um, I blanked on one of the Star Wars reasons why I brought it
up.
Uh, kind of important.
Uh, yeah, kind of important.
Uh, it was because Cameron Monaghan is, is in the movie.
And, um, when we were at, uh, one of the fan expos that he was also at, um, he was
talking about how he was, uh, filming, you know, with, with the Tron cast.
And, uh, this was, uh, if anyone doesn't know the actor who also portrays Cal Kestis

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in a Jedi fallen order, Jedi survivor, he comes back as Cal Kestis in the rebuild the
galaxy pieces of the past Lego series that just came out.
Yeah.
Slight side topic, but I'm surprised I haven't done any live action with him.
Cause the characters model to look like they're losing time, man.
Like he's getting older and it's like, man, you know, they should do it.

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But, um, yeah, I don't know.
I mean, it is what it is.
It's such an easy decision at this point.
I'm just hoping that they still commit to a third game in that trilogy because,
uh, you know, the EA purchase.
Yeah.
Cause the EA purchase, right?
Like it could, could change a lot of things, but, uh, but yeah, Cameron, uh, he, uh, you
know, seems like a great guy, but he was, uh, he was in the Neutron movie and, uh, he plays

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a program, uh, working with Ares, who is the main character.
And, um, he helps Ares infiltrate the NCOM grid and, uh, ultimately is sacrificed in the,
in the battle.
So, uh, we saw him for a whole 10 seconds.
Oh, wow.

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Yeah.
It was basically a Star Wars cameo.
Yeah.
Cause he had a helmet on.
And then, so finally when the helmet comes off, like you didn't really know it was him
and, and you can't really track which one it is him.
Like in the battle, it's really hard to tell.
And so finally when the helmet comes off, you're like, Oh, Hey.
And then, and then he's just, and then he's gone.
And then it's like, Oh man.
Yeah.
Where's the, where's the spoiler button?

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Oh no, that's the wrong one.
There we go.
There we go.
It was too late, but.
Yeah, too late.
Yeah.
No, well, too bad.
Uh, so, uh, yeah, go see Tron Ares.
Go, go, uh, support our fellow Star Wars guy, Cameron Monaghan.
For his five second cameo.
Hey, it's more than I get.

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I don't see myself in Tron.
I mean, uh, you know, good for him.
He's, uh, you know, he's in Tron.
Goes from, uh, goes from, uh, uh, a very, uh, highly popular Star Wars video game to, uh, to the IMAX.
IMAX.
That's true.
Those games are like 70 hours.
Yeah.
There's two of them.
Yeah, dude.
It's kind of, uh, it's kind of surreal.
It's a lot of staring at him.
Even if it's the back of his head.

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Yeah, exactly.
The New York comic-con just happened not that long ago.
And, uh, I know we already talked about in the past week that, um, Luke's film was announcing
a new book that takes place, uh, between episode eight and nine called Star Wars Legacy.
We're speculating on what that could be about, you know?
So now there's a whole cover.
There's an author.
There's, there's details.

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Uh, so here's the cover right there if you want to take a look.
So we got Leia and Rey and Kylo Ren all in the front of the book.
So it's post nine then.
It's post, no, it's post eight.
Cause you know, there's Kylo Ren right there.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Good call.
You know, Leia also died, you know, kind of at the beginning of nine.
So, um, but, um, I'll read you a little bit about what this is.
This is, uh, this is about.

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Um, so in Star Wars Legacy, an all new adventure from bestselling author Madeline Rowe, uh, will
follow Rey and her new master Leia Organa on a quest to mend her storied Skywalker lightsaber.
Uh, and then there's a interview on starwars.com and you can learn more about this highly anticipated
novel coming out July 28th, 2026.

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So it's like a ways away.
Uh, but they are marketing it pretty, pretty far in advance.
It's very, for a book.
That's a very far in advance.
It is.
Yeah.
We were recently talking hype up this fabled Rey movie.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, that's actually a great thing to bring up, but I think, I think another thing
is, um, this idea that there has, there isn't a lot of stories that take place between episode

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eight and nine, which is, I guess with, um, the sequel, it's one year.
Um, but with the sequel trilogy, like, I mean, there isn't a lot of room that the filmmakers
left to make these kinds of stories, right?
Because there is no gap between episode seven and eight, which I think was kind of a massive,
uh, I mean, I don't want to call it a mistake, but it's like, it made things complicated.

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Definitely.
Yeah.
And it's also like, it's almost like a missed opportunity.
Right.
To create some.
Um, also really limits character development between movies.
Oh, a hundred percent.
And it's the main thing.
It also does make characters jumping from one movie to the next a lot rougher because
like maybe some things changed with the hair changed a lot.
Didn't it?

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Yeah.
Like the costume change.
I mean, like there was, there was changes.
I mean, and also the actors are older by a few years and there's just, there's just some
things that naturally flow a bit better when you have these movies not taking place back
to back in universe.
You know what I mean?
Like, like when you watch episode one and you see Ewan McGregor without a beard and long
hair and then you watch episode two, which they got a lot older.

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He seems a lot older.
And they got working on that movie like right away.
Like it's not like there was no, there was not a lot of delay at all between episode
one, episode two.
That's crazy.
Because by growing his hair out and having the.
Yeah.
Well, if you think about it.
So different.
I know.
Right.
Cause that movie came out in 99 and then clones came out in 2002.
So it's like, you know, yeah.
And to make a movie back then too, like it was a bit of a slower process for something

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that was kind of groundbreaking, like first digital movie ever.
And of that scale with that amount of VFX, like crazy.
Right.
And Christopher Lloyd got cut.
He couldn't age fast enough.
Yeah.
But I mean like it, but it was the same kind of time jump between seven and eight.
Right.
Like who played.
I'm playing on the actors now.
I got that wrong.

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Uh, the, uh, played Anakin.
Oh, Jake Lloyd.
Jake Lloyd.
Thank you.
I'm like, that's back to the future.
Great Scott.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I got half of it.
Right.
But, uh, you see what I mean, right?
Like it's just, there's just, there's, there's a, what was it?
Like one, two, like three, maybe three and a half years or four years, but like kind

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of between the actor, you know, maybe starting that next movie and then it releasing.
And it's like with episode seven, that was 2015 and episode eight was like 2017.
So, you know, like kind of the same, maybe one less year, but like kind of the same.
So I don't know.
I feel like it does, it does help a lot.
Like when you do have like time jumps between movies.
It helps explain stuff for sure.

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Oh, for sure.
Yeah.
If it's that far out, how much plot can they even like hype up?
They have being interviewed based on the title.
Like that's all I got.
Well, I don't know.
I'm just wondering, cause there's a long ways out.
So I do wonder how much of this book is actually written.
Uh, so it seems like a great deal of it is written.
Um, they, um, they do return to Tython.

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So on their quest following the battle of crate, Ray and Leah will make their way to a
a planet familiar to fans of the mandalorian and the old republic video game uh the planet tython
so every time something from the old republic gets referenced uh i light up like a christmas
tree says the author and um she has a deep affinity for the star wars video games including

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force unleashed um and uh she says we needed a planet that had a deep jedi history uh so the
author's novel will introduce new characters as well uh and includes more depth for one character
familiar to fans of marvel's age of resistance rose tico uh tale uh called the first order's

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captain oh yeah it was um so he was it was in the rose tico comic book in the age of resistance
series that they did and it's it's a character in the first order called captain wolston home
it's quite the name yeah um so yeah that's uh that's kind of kind of crazy um but uh yeah

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there's some some cool stuff uh you know this this novel will have some deep cuts and references
and details i think it certainly helps that all the movies are out that way you know things can
really be cohesive yeah and like more tightly connected i guess like now that we know how
it all ends it's like okay we can actually play with things like the snoke stuff and like right the

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the the knights of ren stuff and it won't interfere with anything it's supposed to be
become a thread that goes nowhere yeah exactly change yeah so i'm hoping that maybe like this
this novel like some others like i feel like these books are kind of a saving grace sometimes
when it comes to that sort of thing like you know they can add a lot of context they can help
bridge the gap patch plot holes yeah exactly yeah i mean like is there any novels that come to

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mind that that have like patched some plot holes for you in the past you know when it comes to
between the movies i guess you could argue the prequel to rogue one catalyst yeah the prequel
of the prequel that's right um yeah i uh i really enjoyed catalyst that was a good novel that was um
about galen urso and uh his story in the rogue one story which in rogue one his story is such a small

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piece of the puzzle but catalyst almost made that character so much more interesting yeah for sure
because they'd actually give you all the detail of why it happened in the first place yeah instead
of just a throwaway sentence yeah 100 yeah that was a you know that was a great didn't they have
anakin's scar on his above his eye from a comic or something oh man i um i think there's a few stories

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where that originated um i i believe the first reference of how that happened was in the visual
dictionary for revenge of the sith there was uh a little bit of lore somewhere on anakin's page that
said that the scar originated from a duel with ventress and after the 3d animated clone wars came

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out that show never showcased that duel to the he had the scar though he did over it they started the
show with that scar oh but there's also and here's the thing here's what reinforces my whole this is
what reinforces my whole thing about time jumps right because the clone wars also had a time jump
that that show did not completely after the exactly it started like a few months clones yeah start a few

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weeks or months later so it's certainly possible and there's certainly room for there to be a story
in there where he encounters ventress and we read another tales of the jedi we do yeah and and and we
read a book that actually showcased their first encounter with each other which was in the brotherhood
book do you remember that oh right yeah so that was their first that was that was like cat of

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pneumonia right yeah that was that was exactly like that was the follow-up to attack of the clones i was
like this is what happens right after and here's where things kind of thread into the show and there
wasn't like a direct that's actually that book also fills a plot hole because it explains the
difference between the regular nemoidians and the nemoidians of the trade federation right yeah

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that's a great but that's a yeah that's great yeah great thing to bring up yeah so mike uh call
you know shout out to mike chen because uh he he's the author of that book but um yeah great great
book we both enjoyed that one that was a good one out of the newer ones i feel like that one's
definitely one of the uh more must reads i guess on my list it's not as good as across stars but
lost stars lost stars you always get that name right across the star this is that's the song

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that's love song i'm thinking of i mean to be fair that song is fitting to the book so space and stars
twilight stars um so yeah yeah uh i think um there's certainly uh there's certainly it's certainly
nice to see when there's space to to put a story to make things make sense because there's a time
jump you know what i mean like having time jumps is almost a saving grace after the story comes out

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because it allows other storytellers to go back and retroactively make things make sense you know
it gives you more flexibility too for a starting point it does yeah and and it's like that way if
you have a follow-up story to another story and you leave some time between those stories like and and
you just kind of decide to make creative changes in certain areas it's like at least there is some

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kind of buffer right and some maybe your character suddenly is wearing all black yeah no set of
choke people yeah and and um a hundred percent and it's like when kylo ren's scar like change
changes position you know between right they didn't explain that in the book like day one on like you
know force awakens right and then like day two in the last year and it's like completely different

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side of his face like no no time jump at all i wanted to see an explanation for that plot hole oh man
like yeah like that's what i mean like there's just some things like it's a clone
he's a snook getting a call here and darian popping in hello there

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it's a coolie gar there he is chut chut my brother chut chut so um yeah we were uh just to
catch you up to uh get get caught get you caught up to uh where we're at here uh talking about the
new ray book that's coming out yeah a year apparently yeah new york comic-con uh you know

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new star wars books coming out a new book called legacy featuring uh ray being apprenticed to uh her
jedi master which is leia and uh them going off and uh fixing her lightsaber and they go to tython and
all that stuff and uh and so you know we're just kind of going down the rabbit hole was to why
time jumps between movies are a good thing and uh yeah do you have any uh any two cents on that

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i haven't looked into it too much who's the author have they done other star wars books
madeline rowe and uh she was part of the 40 author group that worked on the uh 40 year anniversary of
a new hope it was called from a certain point of view okay i haven't read that one so i have no

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opinion of them as a author but not a huge fan of the ray character i love what daisy did with
what she was given on the page so i'm curious to see how ray will be without daisy's input yeah
it's a good question yeah that's fair i mean there's definitely a there's been a few books where
ray has been written by an author and you know very few like yeah the only one i can think of is the

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just the novelization of force awakens yeah oh yeah that's true so there was the there was the
novelizations of the of the three sequel films uh there's a book called before the awakening which
that one has like three three separate chunks to the book uh each chunk is about one of the three
main characters so one of them was about ray one of them was about poe and one of them was about finn

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and it was all like what happens like right before episode seven type thing or or like in the months
before um and then there was uh there was a book called uh oh man it was uh oh there was that audio
exclusive book that we were talking about last week the jaws of jack who or something like that
the audible uh exclusive the the short yeah uh there was also a resistance book that takes place

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between episode eight and nine um and uh that one it was mostly about poe and like the rest of the
resistance but there's been a lot actually it's very interesting because i feel like when those
movies were coming out they didn't want to write too many books because they were reported with
continuity yeah yeah so there's a lot of novels that came out around the original trilogy era right

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yeah but yeah i think they were just afraid to like touch the character but i mean if you go to her
like her fandom page on wookipedia like it's kind of surreal like how how few appearances she has like
you know for a main character right like and i'm not counting comic books here because you know that
that makes the list look kind of huge but um yeah as far as novels goes not very many yeah that's

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i'm actually curious to see her more fleshed out yeah what the character would look like because we
what you're getting at is we really only have the movies yeah resistance reborn that's that's the one
i'm thinking of um there was also an audiobook called spark of resistance that was uh uh one of those
junior novels i think that came out before i thought that was the first episode of rebels

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before episode nine um spark of resistance was a uh a race story um before episode nine came out
that one i i think i did read that one actually that one was not too bad uh it was pretty good
spark of rebellion uh well there's yeah spark that was a star with rebels
recycled spark of resistance spark of rebellion resistance reborn and they rise the rebellion

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they gotta have a rise the resistance coming up with all these uh names there was also the
allegiance comic book series but like i said i'm ditching comic books i think that's what george
lucas meant when he said no time doesn't repeat itself but it kind of rhymes it's like poetry it rhymes
uh but you know to to get back to uh to the thing here i i think this is the first del rey novel

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that she is like on the cover yeah like from the i don't remember anything else from the random
house world like yeah like the main the main star was adult novel series that they've done like
as far as sequel era books goes like it's very very few like we're talking less than five you know
and uh this is definitely going to be a first man there's like significantly more books before

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phantom menace now with high republic than anything to do the rey oh yeah it's interesting to think
about there was another book are you guys oh go ahead during are you guys going to give it a chance
yeah i'd read it oh yeah for sure you know if anything like i think it's also kind of it like
seeing leia as a jedi master i think is the most intriguing part of that book you know and like um

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i've i've never had my i've never had an issue with rey's character ever right like i think my main
issue has been how that character was handled like in terms of like what kind of you know the like her
being related as a palpatine like i was like i was not so keen on that um how she just instantly
comes into power you know without any kind of training i was not a fan of that execution it's

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more the execution of the character i think daisy ridley's awesome i think she was great i think i
think like i always liked the character but like i couldn't picture anyone else as that character
i i honestly couldn't either like it's it's like man like she she did such a great job and she's a
fantastic actor you know and so i guess at the very like what i'm trying to say is like i think
you know somebody else writing this character and probably from a fan perspective because you know

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this author has mentioned in her interview that she's a big fan of the video games she's a big fan
of force unleash big fan of like you know the old republic stuff like that so you know maybe she's
gonna approach this from a different angle right like obviously she is not jj abrams so or ryan johnson
so so maybe like her take on how this character is is written is going to be very different right

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so at least hopefully that means we're not going to get a mcguffin for the entire plot and we're not
going to get everything subverted because those are the two things those two directors brought
oh man but the last time i read an all leia story was the book called bloodlines bloodline bloodline

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sorry um is that the one where vader they find out she's vader's daughter yeah yeah so that's that's one
of the random house world uh adult novels as well and uh takes place in that same i guess era shall
we call it uh but uh that is i think the only other one that has featured leia from the random house
world series uh i know leia has a lot of other books that she's featured in but that's i think

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in this particular time period from this particular publisher um the only other book that leia is a
prominent main character did you read that one darian i started to and it just kind of got put
aside for a while i keep meaning to go back to it so i've heard it's really really good though it was
pretty good i think my main issue with it at the time was this book came out before force awakens

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came out and they were trying to do a lot of hype for the force awakens but they also didn't want to
go as far as revealing anything at all to do with the plot and it was supposed to be a book that was
sort of explanatory as far as like preliminary story that you might need to know going into the
movie and it ended up just not being relevant at all like at least from from my own perspective it

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just felt like that book was like a huge missed opportunity to bridge the gap you know when for
for maybe a casual fan that might see a very highly marketed star wars book like this we're talking to
the random house you wanted something like catalyst to yeah yeah yeah a hundred percent and and and
like you know when you see the random house world books it's a different level of readership

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than a lot of the do the disney junior novel books that you might see in the kids section
right or the teen section like these adult random house world books are big publisher sci-fi books
big you know big space fantasy books so when you walk into a bookstore like these are the kind of
books that you see by the door you know like this is there's a new star wars book that just came out
this is an event you know like this kind of book is an event so that's why when you look at the

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random house world lineup it's not very big like it's like we're talking less than 30 books
um so the old EU of course there's you know grew to be a lot but um but as far as like the canon
goes the disney era in the last 10 years it's not like there's an extravagant amount or anything
like that um it's still three books a year yeah maybe roughly about that um it's not crazy though

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like it's not like uh i'm not that fast of a reader yeah yeah um but yeah i mean it's not
i'm just excited that they're out of the old republic era it just didn't catch me yes sorry
uh exactly it just didn't get that era and i'm not trying to crap on it it just i like the sith
that's one of the things that really grabs me about star wars uh give me a stories about the

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mandalorian war i don't think we've had that fleshed out very well yeah i mean more on kotor right yeah
yeah yeah that's a great point to make because i think i guess before things changed hands a little
bit with the disney buyout that was a big focal point i guess was the mmorpg you know making this
multimedia project having other stories take place in a lot of these books uh around the video game

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so there was a few that came out that were all very old republic uh based stories so um i think
francis said that he wasn't a huge fan of those ones they're probably pretty random i'm just thinking
back to our our star wars books episode that we did with him the good the bad and the ugly
i think the issue to run into is because they have so much free reign they get kind of convoluted

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yeah yeah everyone seems like the bane ones yeah those ones he said he liked yeah yeah yeah uh so
there was more there was more books that they actually announced uh just before we uh lose too
much time here so the next one up on the list was called star wars eyes like stars uh new york times
best-selling author ashley uh poston is writing a first official star wars romance novel eyes like stars

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this this brings me back to what you were just talking about lost stars that that book
across the stars lost stars was the junior novel that was uh also a romance back in the i think that
came out like 2015 or something yeah it was pretty early on it's one of the first like wave of yeah
star wars books in the canon right and claudia gray wasn't it that was claudia gray yeah that was

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like her first star wars book i think it was i think yeah i put her on the map and then she got you
know chosen chosen the main authors yeah that's right uh so yeah new york comic con got the first
look at the dreamlike cover for the young adult novel which features a couple in search of their
happily ever after in a galaxy far far away the charming young adult romance is set about a year

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and a half before the force awakens and features all new characters a mysterious artifact and the
fearsome first order so this really sounds like they just wanted to kind of piggyback on the success
of lost stars and i mean it's been 10 years there's an entire new audience of like teenagers
yeah and preteens 100 that's great great point to make so uh yeah i guess we'll uh we'll have to see

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we'll have to read this and see if it's just as good if not uh you know hitting that hitting that lost
stars uh the lost stars 10 yeah that's right yeah i'm uh i'm a sucker for a junior novel every now and
again like they're actually an easy read it is an easy read sometimes uh full adult ones get
they can get a bit choking yeah yeah just like a bit slow yeah slow a lot of politics and like

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setting the scene setting the environment sometimes they're tough sometimes they go down the rabbit
hole with like characters thinking too much and it's like oh come on battlefront oh man
military you really don't like that book it was such a grind man it was a grind
it was a grind uh another one is the art of fan one likes those art of books i think you collect

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those those books don't you i have some of them yeah yeah so they make kind of the art of the
mandalorian and grogu's they're they're like way announcing this in a you know way ahead of time
of course it's done yet the movie's not even out yeah i guess it's just oh man oh maybe they're
over budget and this is i'm trying to get some fund the movie they're funding the last 10 of the
movie yeah exactly yeah so the art of the mandalorian and grogu includes a look back at

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artwork from season three of the mandalorian as well as moments from the book of boba fett
um i'm i assume that that means that the book of boba fett never got an art of book and i guess
season three didn't either so that's interesting to to know i guess um yeah nothing to do with the
movie it's the same title no this is the movie but it's also bundling in season three and book of

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boba which i guess never got one of those books is it being released before the movie hits theaters
it doesn't actually have oh no it does uh september 1st 2026 so this is after way after yeah i'm gonna
say they might end up with uh death of qui-gon situation yeah i do find it kind of kind of crazy
that we're getting an announcement for a book like a solid year in advance maybe it's just so slow

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they're like we have to do something i think that is the case you just have to put something out
there let people know i honestly think that is the case because it's new york comic-con they've got
eyes from every media outlet on like what do we got what do we got yeah like what can we do to
get people excited about star wars right like and that's the whole that's the key i guess with
you know the marketing department is like what can we do to keep this out there and keep this

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relevant that's what i think we were talking about that when it came to that that singapore
airport library that pop-up star wars library yeah yeah and more to the point what can we do that
isn't going to be definitely canceled definitely canceled a lot of stuff gets pulled yeah well
definitely canceled just kind of stop talking yeah definitely canceled is uh is certainly one way to

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put it um i think uh i think it's a sad reality you know whenever that comes around but i think as star
wars fans we're all kind of used to it at this point in some in some sad way not hope for like
the rogue squadron movie or show or whatever they do yeah i still think that'd be cool
didn't they say that they were putting that back into pre-production rogue squadron no um they're

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they're doing a starfighter they're doing a whole new movie called starfighter in a different time
period different cast but rogue squadron with patty jenkins it's so far it's been a trailer for
that and everything yeah it was like a promo yeah yeah but yeah yeah yeah they'd like it was more than
other things got and yeah that still solidly shelved i think which is too bad well sorry i thought i

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had heard a little while ago that they were talking about it again seriously so and i got
excited because it's like yeah that's the one i really want i think a lot of us want that one
yeah yeah i think a lot of us would would want that one but i feel like there's gonna if because
of the starfighter thing now they're gonna have to wait a while so they're not too similar back to
back right yeah i hope it still it happens i still hope it happens yeah like a cool like fighter

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pilot top gun style yeah for sure show or movie exactly uh the star wars visions license has been
fairly successful over the years and uh it does not surprise me that they're releasing a graphic
novel or a uh uh some some kind of literary story here called sucomo um so the the panel revealed that

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viz media's new original star wars manga star wars vision sucomo from the all-star creators
of the latest ultraman manga uh in the wake of order 66 a lone jedi knight accompanies a pair of
droids to be a uh to a rumored droid's paradise while being pursued by the empire so star wars

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visions you know obviously it's not canon or anything like that but i think if anyone likes star wars
visions like this seems to be a a kind of out there storyline you know free of any ties to the
existing canon and it's just a it's just a thing it's just a story that just kind of happens all
on its own nice and simple sometimes low stakes like that's good yeah you don't need a a death

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star story in every story yeah yeah who needs a universe where luke skywalker exists
i feel like that'd be like almost like a marvel's what if style and like everything it'll just be
like terrible right uh we got a few updates on the comic books here so star wars the high republic
adventures uh we're getting a few mini series from dark horse comics uh which i think this is a whole

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new series that maybe they didn't announce before but um lucasone revealed the covers of the first two
issues of a series called pathfinders and this looks like it's taking place about 20 years after
phase two so this is like high republic still this is high republic but this is like pre light of the
jedi if that kind of makes sense because phase two was like a flashback phase like that because they

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went back because they did phase one two three like how the movies yeah trilogies came out terrible idea
um and so yeah extra confusing in literary form it's too extra too extra yeah uh so anyway that was that
and also boba fett is getting a black white and red treatment from marvel comics which uh is very in

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line with the darth vader and the mall comic book limited runs um so he's getting his own black white
and red and they literally use only black white and red to shade the coloring on the pages and stuff
like that uh yeah that's kind of neat uh also the mandalorian is getting a visual guide which uh for
fans of the visual guides you know pablo hidalgo always has his uh his stamp on those and uh you know i

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always i always loved those they'll love those visual guides when i was a kid you know like just
like getting all those little bits of lore in there and all the photos and they had a lot of cool
photos from like things that you didn't see in the movie like maybe they were like a lot of these
recently or was there a time jump and they're kind of just getting back to it i think they're just
kind of with the movie coming out i think they're just kind of like getting back to like doing that

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stuff that maybe they just didn't do when the show was a thing right because not every show gets the
the visual dictionary treatment you know what i mean like it's it's like especially when there's
so much going on back to back for so long oh yeah like every year was something yeah for sure yeah
so that's that's certainly something um there's also a new jar jar binks comic book series coming

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out which i'm excited for this yeah and keller and beck is supposed to be in the comic book series so
it's ahmed best two characters pairing up that's awesome in one comic book and they're both going
to be on the cover together i'm gonna buy a copy yeah yeah you got to get the first prince oh man
that has to be signed by him he plays both characters oh 100 i'm so stoked for that uh i'm

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gonna bypass all the coloring book stuff uh we got an art of what there's gonna be an art of andor the
complete series coming out so any fans of andor um are gonna be uh excited to know that the art of
series is gonna get to extend its way to the andor crowd uh that looks like it comes out may 19th next
year also doug chang i think this is announced already but uh the cinematic legacy of doug chang

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volume one and the star wars legacy volume two is uh is coming out as well uh december 2nd 2025
so it's a two volume set and uh i'm definitely definitely looking forward to that it's it's kind
of like it's going to be a big big massive box but if anyone is familiar with like the um ralph
mccrory box set i think it was like two or three volumes of his work across the original star wars

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movies yeah is it an enclosed book or is it like it's like a few books in a box okay and it's like a
big honking box right like big books and uh doug chang kind of like that side yeah kind of like the
star wars archives size except a little little smaller but um but yeah doug chang is getting his
own that's treatment and for the prequels and stuff yeah so i'm pretty excited about that time oh yeah

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man the guy's a legend yeah uh and finally the accolade is getting an art of book as well which
uh joins the uh the growing collection you know of uh of art of books and uh there's some pretty
cool concepts in there about the stranger and you know things like that so pretty neat yeah let me think
here we were just talking about canceled star wars projects and uh also coincidentally we were talking

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about eclipse that game yeah is there news about that there is no way official news yes talked about
that a complete brand i think bryce just brought it up yeah and so we talked about it like i think
two will the force it is yeah it totally is like i think we talked about this like two or three weeks
ago and how there was no official confirmation that it was dead no it was like so long so this

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wait they didn't just say it's dead this is a blog from october 16th that is today as of this recording
so by the time our podcast you know like launches like you know it'll be like three four days past now
but but this is like a fresh blog from uh quantic dream from the developer of the game okay so i'll just

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read we have a breaking news sound clip um you know what i think i think we do hold on a second
james real jones saying this is cnn let's uh let's play this one uh play the one you can call me not
more at last we will review more news on the podcast all right there we go that works good good call

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darian good call all right so um for over 28 years quantic dream has been pushing the boundaries of
interactive storytelling with award-winning titles like heavy rain beyond two souls and detroit
becoming human or become human sorry more than 25 million players worldwide have shared the journeys

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of ethan mars jody holmes kara marcus connor with us since 2018 we have entered a new phase of growth
and innovation we doubled the size of the team bringing together talents from all over the world
united by the same passion for creativity we opened a new studio in montreal moved into new headquarters
and paris built the next generation of our proprietary technology and became our own publisher

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after years as a single project studio we also decided to take a new step multiple teams are fully
dedicated to crafting the next generation of great games including something very different a
competitive multiplayer experience born from the same spirit of curiosity and creativity that has
always defined us this new title may surprise our fans as it is very different from what we have done

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so far but taking risks challenging ourselves exploring new ways of playing and telling stories
and attempting what seems impossible has always been part of our dna we also know how demanding it is to
create something new earning the trust of our players standing out in such competitive space and
introducing fresh concepts is incredibly challenging and since we have no legacy in this genre we know we

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have everything to prove which is why your support and feedback will be essential together we believe we can
create something truly unique of course development of star wars eclipse continues we are eager to share
more with you in the future i want to take this opportunity to thank all our fans around the world for playing our
games year after year for their kind words whenever we meet for their patience and encouragement this is the

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beginning of a new chapter of the quantic dream thank you for being with us on this journey we can't wait
to share what comes next david cage so i'm assuming david cage is like the ceo or something but like that's
that's that's very encouraging news yeah i'm honestly kind of flabbergasted because i thought
it was just another let's just stop talking about it and hopefully they'll forget situation maybe we did

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it maybe we we put out a podcast maybe he listened to our podcast maybe how crazy would that be
no there's no way this is in french do you what a crazy coincidence though like we were just talking
about it like like two weeks ago or something crazy right like oh man yeah this is the way yeah
the way the force yeah i do wonder when he's referring to the multiplayer thing was that for

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the star wars game there's two different things i i i don't know if i was to guess it's probably two
different things but i hope it is i'm not sure i think this specifically being a because they're
telling a story about the rise of the trade federation i want that to be a story yeah i want it to be a
cinematic yeah story that's very yeah yeah yeah 100 i mean like the other the other encouraging

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thing about this though is that because they are exploring things like that it does give hope that
maybe things will shift for star wars eclipse a little bit and maybe there's going to be some
added opportunity to create a multiplayer experience that's extending the playability of
the game right like like how almost like how battlefront 2 has its campaign that's very segregated and

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it's on its own and you play as idon versio in this elite squad and so on and so forth but then
you have the multiplayer experience which is very like oh we can play in the original trilogy we can
play in clone wars era and it's just big battles and it's just the classic chaotic battle environment
that you would expect from battlefront game they mostly make games that are story-based and you just
hit the button on the screen right like a like a telltale game yeah isn't that what they do like

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that's like i think it's a little more than that but i've never played become human so i don't know
like i or detroit like i don't know i like i'm i'm kind of keen to try one of those games just to
kind of get the play style yeah just just to kind of get the idea of the play style but i feel like
the star wars game could be could be different like it could be its own unique thing that they haven't

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really done before and and it seems like what from this piece of news here it seems like they'll
have a dedicated team working on that game which is kind of insane to think that they weren't doing
that before maybe that's why it was taking so long um but i have you know it's great to hear
that they're doing they're doing well they've expanded you know they're working on like they
have a dedicated team now probably two star wars eclipse and uh you know this is all really good

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news man that's exciting because that trailer was super cool oh man yeah i want to learn both
those little drummer boys yeah or rum pum pum pum pum something like that yeah something like that
only money

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merchandising merchandising where the real money from the movie is made
so uh we all love toys um and uh new york comic con 2025 is uh is no stranger to new toy
announcements so uh as you know hasbro black series six inch figures they tend to be the uh

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the cream of the crop i guess when it comes to action figures it's 10 years of those though yeah
who's left to make are they just re-releasing no actually so there's finally some new ones um so we
got okay well it's kind of a re-release uh it's okay it's money it's it's it's darth vader the

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duels end version so this is the sliced helmet version from the obi-wan kenobi series okay all right
so there he is right there you can see anakin's crusty face than the broken helmeted star wars
rebels darth vader yes although they haven't released that version of it but it would be really
funny if they did yeah it would be funny the detail is pretty cool though it's so cool like

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that seeing that face inside there how lucky is he that it didn't go right through his head oh man
it's a very precise cut isn't it like yeah that was a close call yeah pretty cool though pretty cool
uh they call it battle damage because they just you know they broke on the production line i feel
like they should call about yeah yeah who knows but maybe maybe they're saving battle damage to uh
for the ahsoka version oh for the uh yeah that makes sense the ahsoka version that means uh the

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star wars rebel season two finale version where they basically shot it so you've seen yeah it's
basically the same thing uh okay so the next one up is uh from the vintage collection which is a
padme amadala this is actually not a six inch this is a three and three quarter inch so maybe we don't
care as much um the next one is a black series kyle katarn so you know any fans of kyle katarn there's

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going to be uh you know a big guy for that one i think it's a six inch uh also book of boba fett
version of boba fett finally man how long ago did that show come up oh man too long ago um way too
long ago jeb a rude with fear you also did not listen to star wars escape art if you know what's
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partner in crime
uh there's also purge trooper and patrol trooper in a two-pack these are also six inch figures so
any anyone who's a big fan of jedi survivor uh will recognize these guys from the jedi
survivor video trooper from solo the patrol trooper almost looks like i think he's from solo oh this

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guy yeah it almost looks like he's originally from it looks like the ones on the speeder bikes
right yeah yeah beginning on um on corelia corelia i think it is one of those guys if i'm not mistaken
maybe uh maybe just maybe just google that real quick just so that we're not we're not pulling that
looks like him yeah yeah yeah it is him yeah yeah totally yeah okay yeah so that's what they're

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called yeah because there's like one patrol trooper scene where they're chasing him people people
always forget about the patrol troopers but i guess i guess they are kind of like a cameo like
that's it and it's not just it's not yeah and you know what it was crazy it's it's not just a paint
job like it's it's a full custom helmet yeah it's like you know like the shore trooper or the tank

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trooper or whatever like it's one of those variants that that people always forget about but it's uh one
of the newer ones and it's got those cool like tubes on the side and like a different respirator
and they have like increased armor it's almost like a mix motorcycle armor yeah it's almost like a mix
between like a scout trooper and a stormtrooper yeah that's a good way to explain it and uh this
guy holds like an electric baton with a riot shield sort of thing so look at that two-tone

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two-tone leather in those gloves yeah yeah that's sick oh man leave it leave it to star wars jedi
survivor to like highlight like the most underrated stormtrooper character ever right probably probably
somebody worked on was like we gotta use this yeah yeah this guy was so cool probably uh shack t uh one of
the jedi masters of the order uh doesn't say which version how she dies

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no but it does say that she is part of the vintage collection so sadly this is not six inch but uh
three and three quarter inch uh collectors out there will be uh will be very happy to hear that
she's coming to your shelf with fabric robes yeah i think that's standard now uh i think yeah i think
it's i think fabric has been standard ever since like the power of the force lineup i think like a long

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time ago made a jawa with a fabric robe did you know there's more than one prune face
you're talking about yam face right i'm not talking about yam face i'm talking about prune like the one
and only prune face but man i think yam face actually has a name that because yeah i i coined yam face
right so nobody knows what we're talking about nobody knows what we're talking about
yeah i was kind of wondering i thought that was like a standard like a standard name because we

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use it just so i just picture like darian google and yam face and like you know like like what kind
of results you're coming up with there darian it's uh see if we could find it just for our audience but
it he's an alien from the sequels whose head looks like like yams like the vegetable
um yeah yeah what was it again he's in the battlefront game right yeah he's in battlefront

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too he's the heavy trooper that you can play as um he's the ovisian gunner yeah for the resistance
yeah if you type up ovisian like o-v-i-s-s-i-a-n um that's uh that's what he looks like right there
so i started calling him yam face because there's already a prune face and people know

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who prune face is you know from return of the jedi but um and also squid head i think prune face
is trademarked by the way which is hilarious because like when i was looking at the action
figure card back yeah it actually has the little train tm next that's what i thought yam face was
too no it's not but they should they they gotta coin that man like like yam face is like that's a

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great name for this guy because it looks like he's got these like he's yellowish he's got like
yam textured skin and he's got these like yams on his head
i think they also had a yak face didn't they oh i think so too oh man yak face i recognize that one

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oh we were also talking about butt face like not that long ago right like but that was your name
for him i think that that's what fan kids basically called him before he had an official
name like when the original star wars was in theaters oh yeah right it was it was i think they
even made a joke about that robot chicken didn't they yeah i think so yeah yeah butt face was that
was that the one that's um it's uh it's the guy in the cantina right yeah uh doctor his arm cut

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off dr evazin and uh ponda baba that's the one that's the one yeah yeah yeah butt face um i wanted
you to say because i was gonna say babar i'm like i think that's wrong oh man okay yeah yak face who
is yak face again oh wasn't he from rogue one uh yes yes he was yeah or something something no no he

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was uh return of the jedi i'm thinking of the yeti looking creature from rogue one i think it's a
similar situation though where he's not officially yak face his name is like salt marae or something
like that salty marae salty he's salty that he didn't get coined as as a yak face but yeah i see
what you mean there meanwhile dude in the toy warehouse is just like i don't know how to spell

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that just call him yak face yeah yeah exactly i think what's crazy to me about prune face is like
it's such an absurd name to put on a licensed action figure you know like i love
how it's like in brackets like below his like already where did it first come from was it a fan
thing that just reached its way all the way to george oh man i i did was it like something that

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was at ilm or something uh i honestly wish i knew the story when it comes to like why he was called
prune face i mean obviously it's like he's got the most pruney looking face ever right like he looks
like an alien version of like palpatine from episode three post lightning right but with an
that's the other butt face yeah oh man but yeah there's uh there's a little robot chicken short

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here which uh let's just like can like take a listen here and listen listen to this and the time is
i'm sorry who the hell are you prune face ma'am anyway the ember has made when the face is a prune
then action goes boom
action it's right there slaying loads of sweet air

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it's so random my man so like if you're listening like basically what it is it's a montage of him like you know just being a complete rockstar
and like you know like a full 007 agent style character you know and uh is really just like
your average background guy who's there to you know i guess sweep the floors and fix the copier

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machine or whatever right like i don't know it's i appreciate that it's like the laziest metal
ever as well like we could have done this well but let's just really make it lazy
oh i got a question for you darren do you have you ever owned a rick oley action figure i can
honestly say i have not but i've i have debated going to toy traders just to see if i could find

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it so i could put it in the commercial for the upcoming game nice i think i feel like did you
did you like hear our chat from last week about about the rick oley yeah i was actually listening
to that this morning so i was really tempted i feel like what's your uh like what's your what's

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your take on that when it comes to like doing the expanded character run yeah like expanded
character run i mean obviously like they're targeting adults when they do a character like
that but i mean like just you know what what's your word on it i guess i hated that as a kid
because i was from a small town and all you'd get were the shelf warmer characters it's like good
luck finding a stormtrooper but you can find six of owen lars yeah yeah right like yeah it's uh

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it's a classic story but or like the christmas morning and then the grandparents whoever that
no idea what they are just bought you whatever was at the store yeah yeah the most recent movies
have also run into that as well with with certain characters but um but man like the the shelf warmers
are it's always kind of funny to see because i feel like no other no other movie does it better

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than star wars you know there's always like there's always so many of the character that the kid
doesn't want yeah and they stay on the shelf for a very long time they do they do it's crazy um but
yeah it's very funny it's very funny all the same see it would be better if they only had like one of
those in every crate so that you don't have 12 on the shelf at the end of when everybody's bought

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everything good then at least it's like hey i need to find that one action figure i don't have
rather than well i can buy this for a dollar in a month because nobody else is gonna buy it they'll
make them make them way more sought after because then collectors will be clamoring for them yeah yeah
but exactly what happens is hasbro probably has a uh you buy it yeah buy the crate and you get what

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you get it's gonna be mostly them because they just want to pump them out right justify the production
there might also be like some sets because now they're doing crazy stuff like those um crowdfunded
projects like you know oh yeah you know like the razor crest was the first one right yeah i think the
sale barge was like one of the first they also did most recently was the ghost i think it was the ghost

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that was the most recent one and so the laddie was the one oh yeah the laddie the laddie was the
most recent one but yeah they did they've done a few now and you know and these are crazy big like
they're oh yeah huge and massive like they're very detailed and super cool and it only takes one
ship like say like the um the nubian class you know the royal episode one metallic big long ship

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right it only takes that to come out with no rick oley for them to just skyrocket right because now
now everyone's gonna want to complete the set right so now they're looking at 99 produced action
figures for rick oley going like where the heck do i find a rick oley that being said did black series
ever release a rick oley no they never did no i rick oley's only been made like like once like in

(01:00:38):
the nine in the phantom menace lineup though if they made that ship they probably remake him i don't know
man like like i think i can i can imagine them making like maybe captain typho qui-gon obi-wan like
you know like peasant padme type thing and maybe like two of her guards and maybe her variant which is
like you know keira knightley the the queen or her queen version or whatever right yeah yeah um and

(01:01:01):
jar jar and r2 right like i don't really see them yeah yeah maybe some i don't know if they would do
rick oley you know he's such a he's such a forgettable character sometimes if we're lucky they
would also do um i'm blanking on his name now it's funny i will roll the hood oh yeah yeah no
he's definitely the rick oley of the original trilogy for sure which is he he's the ice cream bucket

(01:01:25):
guy oh yeah okay that makes sense okay if i type in here's the sad thing about rick oley i type in
rick oley action figure and i get stuff from rick and morty i get pickle rick like like it's like
google doesn't even know who rick oley is type star wars with it i'm spelling that right right i'm
totally i'm totally spelling that right oh yeah no i'm not spelling that right i'm missing the e
okay rick oley action figure any relation to roly-poly oley no uh oh no i thought that was that i

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thought that was oh there is a reproduction there is is it is a black series was i right no no it's a
um it's like a it's a here it's when they did the darth maul labels on everything it was like when was
that it was like what 2013 2012 okay so it was so they did one about about a decade after the original
run yeah he also came bundled with a b1 battle droid that's so right 99 but yeah his main action

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figure from 99 had a scene where he's with battle droids i guess before they before they go on the
ship right yeah maybe they like they break the um certainly possible his main action figure comes
with the uh the com tech chip i had a com tech oh i remember those yeah yeah you bought an action
figure got a little like voice chip like and you rub it up against your uh your com tech

(01:02:39):
thing yeah it had like three quotes on it maybe four my buddy had one of those and it was so crappy
it's funny because it was a toy that was uh made to look like uh like a electric shaver
yeah that's what those were and then like the toy version of it was just so oversized yeah it was
huge it's like a massive like it was like a phone dude like like it's because they had to put that

(01:03:02):
massive chip in it just to get those three recordings oh it's crazy crazy oh yeah um i'm not
seeing any other rick holies like i think that that's it's only made been made twice oh you know
what okay maybe okay maybe i don't know if that's legit or not the problem is now they make the
label so retro you can never tell oh yeah it's really it's really hard to tell i think i think

(01:03:23):
it's just twice i'm gonna go with that i'm gonna go with twice if anyone wants to correct me and knows
what the other one is definitely send us an email with a photo but um i think it's just been the two
times i'm surprised it's even twice though man like i feel like it gets to a point where they start
just like reaching yeah so they start a whole the whole run over again yeah yeah maybe do you think
we'll ever get that guy in uh mandalorian season two where you can just see his hand and his pants

(01:03:48):
out the uh oh man imperial base somebody like posted a photo jeans guy yeah jeans guy jeans guy
didn't they remove that from disney plus yeah they did yeah but but like that doesn't change our
hearts you know right you know like it might change the production someone made a joke version
of that like and look like look there's like a whole like templated this is what the action figure

(01:04:13):
would look like if they made one and it's got the the retro label on it it's just a leg and like a
piece of wall it's awesome dude if you type in jeans guy mandalorian like in google images like it's one
of the top photos is the action figure like if it was like it's a fake but it's like man if they
made one like that's what it would be like that's that's amazing they should do a limited run of those

(01:04:37):
they really should it's like i feel like they should kind of like lean into this kind of stuff a little
more you know like i don't think there's also there's a luke's hand uh sorry luke's bespin hand
return of the jedi and it's just his hand with the lightsaber i had that bespin like well i mean it
came with all of luke but like he had a he had it was a bespin luke and his hand was like magnetically

(01:05:00):
detachable i remember that and everyone would lose the hand immediately well because as soon as you put
the lightsaber in his hand it was like the magnet was barely strong enough to like hold it on there
if you were playing with it so it would frequently drop off it's like a little prosthetic yeah yeah so
like i i always like kind of i was always kind of annoyed at that little action figure because like i was

(01:05:22):
like man i was always like like digging through my carpet to find the hand right yeah that's what
i mean they get lost so easily yeah and it's in you had shag carpet back in the day right no
thankfully not searching through the forest to find luke's hand tell me about it tell me i'm surprised
you guys even know what shag carpet is oh man that's not it's not in style anymore that's like

(01:05:42):
yeah way out of style i feel like yeah i barely remember that we all we all had family members that
probably had shag carpet i think yeah it used to be a thing used to be a thing but same with green
carpet nobody has green carpet oh that was the worst the bright pink oh man pink carpets yeah yeah
yeah welcome to old cast where we reminisce about things from the 70s we're talking about things

(01:06:06):
that nobody will believe existed well like darian like you you had all this stuff you you experienced
these things when they were like brand new whereas like we uh we we had it when it was like i was born in
the mid 80s okay like we experienced it when it was like on its way out like people people were
like getting their houses renovated to get rid of the stuff you know what it'll never die linoleum

(01:06:29):
vinyl despite our best efforts to make it go away yeah it's just too resilient it's too cheap
that's like that's why i bought it people it's resilience oh man all right well uh we should
probably start to wrap things up here but uh darian i already i i kicked things off with uh with a

(01:06:50):
mention to our 400th uh episode coming up but is there anything you want to share uh this week or
do you want to hold off until next week to kind of start um providing any details of how we should prep
well i can certainly give you guys some but we would like the audience to participate if possible so
the idea of the 400th episode game is we're going to do a star wars fantasy draft there's going to be

(01:07:15):
positions that each member will have to fill and certain you're going to have to specifically give
certain characters roles it's going to be six man teams where you will also have to choose a shuttle
ship that could take the members of your squad to the objective so you'll have to have one force user
and one alien and one droid and then you'll have to decide who's your mastermind and who's your pilot

(01:07:40):
okay interesting interesting yeah i'm looking forward to this are you do we have to find our
own characters like we bring that ourselves yes so you have to we'll go through each uh person that's
participating and we'll roll the dice to see who gets to go first each person will have a chance to
draft one member of their squad and then we go on to the next person so if somebody chooses your

(01:08:05):
your character you no longer have the ability to get that character okay they can only be one
all right all right i'm uh i'm excited so if somebody chooses anakin then you can't choose vader okay
gotcha yeah got it makes sense i like it i like it all right man so if you get say clone 99
and maybe i'll have to get triple five can you imagine like i'm i'm i'm taking uh i'm taking echo

(01:08:31):
yeah well i get tech so yeah i got record why are you just going after the bad batch
it's because you want the set about the other no we only get like four yeah i'm looking forward to
this man i'm looking forward to this we'll uh we'll have to uh so what what what exactly
does the audience uh what how can the audience prepare to get involved i guess how can they

(01:08:53):
participate at home okay so once everybody has a chance to complete their teams and get as many
of their choice picks as possible you each get a chance to argue why your squad has the best chance
to succeed in the objective so the audience will decide who actually won at the end of it all right
oh man sounds good better call some friends so they can phone in

(01:09:15):
yeah well to run some uh multi-platform surveys here um and uh yeah well uh everyone listening
please uh you know prep your um prep your replies prep your responses you know like definitely tune
into that episode and uh was not a plan to if you uh vote then you get entered into a raffle

(01:09:35):
yeah was that the original plan i think so because we couldn't think of any other reason why people
would bother right uh yeah we'll uh i'll sort that out for next week prize tbd prize tbd
um i think it's been i think uh yeah our mail service is kind of shot right now so like

(01:09:57):
doesn't matter it'll be a while yeah it might might be a while but uh we'll see all right um
thank you guys both for uh coming back on as as always um thank you darren for uh for uh popping
in and prepping the game for our 400th and uh and our co-host blake for uh always uh showing up
in the in the nick of time better late than never

(01:10:20):
thank you for having us this is the way yeah man it's always a good time
i'll see you out there keep flying
all right thank you so much to our audience for tuning in

(01:10:41):
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you in the next episode of star wars escape pod may the force be with you

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