Clone Wars Rewatch-Season 4: Episodes 7-10

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, Star Warriors.
Oh man, I'm a little nervous.
Are you guys nervous?

Speaker 2 (00:06):
You're shipped man, let's do this.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
Oh wait, yeah, we are live.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Daddy Louie, you said you're not nervous.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
No.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Oh, okay, excuse me there, cool Roy.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
I'm trying to find the damn share button so that I
can post it to our friends.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
All right.
So it's showing that we haveone viewer.
Post it to our friends, alright.
So it's showing that we haveone viewer.
I think that viewer is you,alright?
So, coming up this week, thisis the Clone Wars For everyone
that said there's not enoughclones, there's not enough war
in the Clone Wars, guys, gals,non-binary pals did we get it?
This week it's the Clone Wars,season 4, episodes 4, non-binary

(00:46):
pals did we get it?
This week it's the clone wars,season four, episodes four, five
, six I'm reading off the wrongnotes episode seven, eight, nine
and ten this week on your starwars, safe space.
Stick around, all righty.

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I don't have the actual introdone yet, but if you want to see
a dope intro, check out some ofour past episodes, because it
is a bomb intro.
I just couldn't get it to workwith all the live setup, so so,
anyway, thank you for joining uslive for a very special edition
of Star Wars, safe Space.
Why are we doing this live?
Well, because it's the Umbaraarc, and why not?
We need all of the joy that wecan get out of that one.

(01:39):
So let's see, can I do this?
Hey, it's T to the Oni.
He's joining us today.
See, can I do this?
Hey, it's t to the oni.
He's joining us today.
Hey guys, knock him dead likeso many clones in this arc tony.
Too soon, spoilers too soon.
I'm still, oh, anyway, allright, howdy star warriors.
Welcome to star wars, safe space, your non-toxic, low sodium
star war show.

(01:59):
That doesn't make you feel badfor not knowing that arc trooper
fives had the rishi eel paintedon his helmet.
So I don't know if you, if youwatch this and if you didn't
really quite catch that design,it is the rishi eel that ate our
very first clone trooper thatwe put on the wall of
remembrance.
If I'm not mistaken, I thinkthat was, uh, our first thoughts

(02:20):
and prayers to rookie eeltrooper because, uh, he went out
like a boss.
And who, uh, who one-shottedthat eel, our boy captain rex,
with a well-placed, uh, blasterpistol shot right into the
eyeball anyway.
So, whether you're a hardcorefan or just a little swarzy,
curious, this is your star warssafe space, welcome.

(02:43):
We are the circle of nerds andin fact love Star Wars, even if
we don't always like it.
So let's meet the gang, shallwe?
Let's see if we can do thisright.
There we go From the Outer Rimterritory of Bostween, it is
Daddy Louie.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Hello children.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
That never stops being creepy.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
It's not supposed to, so how's it going?

Speaker 1 (03:12):
What's happening?

Speaker 3 (03:15):
With me.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah, you're up, we're introducing, that's you
know going around doing.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
What's up?
How's it going?
It's good.
I don't know.
You didn't tell us to havesomething to say, like usually.
You just go hi, it's louis andthen hi, it's crash and I'm
tommy.
You don't ask questions likehow are you doing?
I do I?
I've asked questions how's itgoing like?
What is this?

Speaker 2 (03:42):
a star trek, for how do you feel?

Speaker 1 (03:46):
I didn't add I don't care how you feel.
I didn't ask you that.
I don't give a shit about howany of us feel nothing is new
and exciting all right, thanks,that was great.
All right and, uh, hopefully alittle more energy.
Pilot of the infamous parmaFlyer it's Crash.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Hey guys, how's it going?
Things are going well as always.
S4 is locked and ready to roll.
Let's do this, let's get intoit.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
I didn't ask you, I told you how he was doing and
you didn't ask him.
I didn't ask him.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
He went for it.
You didn't even have to askBecause I wasn't going to.
After the berating that I tookfrom you about it.
Then I'm too embarrassed toeven ask.
I wasn't gonna do it.
What for what's the point?
Anyway, let me get the buttonsright here.
That's the one I'm looking for,all right.
So what are we doing here?
Well, we are on a mission towatch all of the star wars,

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canon tv shows and films inchronological order, and
breaking them down, connectingthe dots and learning a little
more about Star Wars, and maybeeven about ourselves as well.
Who knows?
We'll see what happens.
So a word of warning to all youwould be Star Warriors out
there.
There will be spoilers.
So if you are not hip to tothese particular episodes that

(05:04):
we're watching, maybe hang backa little bit, because it's going
to get funky.
So, season four, episodes seven, eight, nine and ten Holy shit,
did things get dark.
I've seen this.
I haven't watched a lot of thelike, rewatched a lot of the

(05:26):
Clone Wars, but the Umbara arcI've watched many times.
It never gets easier.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
No it doesn't Now.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Louis, was this your first time?
I know Crash and I have seen it.
Was this your?

Speaker 3 (05:40):
first time.
Yes, it was.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Okay, so Crash.
You and I are probably going tohang back a little bit, because
I run.
I want to pick daddy Louie'sbrain, and if he brings the same
kind of energy he brought fromthe intro, we are in for a wild
ride.
I'm ready.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
Brace yourselves YouTube here we go Brace
yourselves.
Here he comes.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Hide your wives and daughters and small pets,
because daddy Louie's bringingthe heat alright.
So, umbara, umbara, tell meyour thoughts.
I want to know your thoughts onthe opening.
I have my thoughts, the vibesthat I got from it, from that

(06:22):
first episode, the whole landingin that first battle.
I'm really curious.
What are your thoughts on that?

Speaker 3 (06:29):
um, well, first I'll say that, like, as far as like
action sequences go, yeah,across the we'll talk about this
throughout, I'm sure, thisepisode.
But throughout this arc, theaction episode or the action
sequences were just so, so good,like top tier star wars action

(06:50):
sequences, every single one ofthem.
Um, and I'll be honest, likeI'm not super big on the star
wars animated shows in general,I'm just not like big on not
that I'm big on animation, Ijust I think that I was so
turned off in the beginningbecause of how kiddy it was

(07:11):
right, um in the early seasons,that it's been very difficult
for me to get on board with theyou know, cartoony, star wars
stuff, right, um, this.
So usually I said that becauseusually when we're doing these,
these episodes aside from whenwe did it in person I'll usually
play the episodes like on mycomputer here while I'm also

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painting, you know, and likeit's.
You know I'll look up and I'mpaying attention, I'm listening
to it, but my eyes aren't on it.
Um, this arc, once it started,like 60 seconds in my face was
up and it didn't go back downuntil the arc was over.
Like I watched the whole thingin its entirety.

(07:53):
No, look, like I put the stuffdown and I was like watching the
show.
Um, good, yeah, so I mean, asfar as, like the intro, I mean
that was like a really goodintro into what we were about to
see and, to be honest, I wasthe whole time I was kind of
expecting, like Anakin to comeback Right, like Anakin always

(08:14):
comes back straight up.
Like you even see Anakin.
The rest, you don't know whatPalpatine wanted from Anakin.
Like you don't you never evenfind that out.
Like, because this arc is notabout Anakin, this arc is about
them clones we got clones and wegot war, we got the clone wars.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
so you, you bring up, you bring up an interesting
point about Palpatine, becausethat's one thing that we, we do
try to do, every episode, if wecan, is try to connect the dots
back to Palpatine, because weknow that he is the architect,
he is the puppet master ofeverything.
So I'm curious, what are yourthoughts, you and Crash?

(08:55):
What are your thoughts onPalpatine's involvement in this?
Not so much the actual war,because we know that he's
involved, but do we think thatpalpatine engineered this
particular scenario by pullinganakin out and sending krell in?

(09:22):
Was that was a calculated,orchestrated step from Palpatine
?
Do we think, crash, what do youthink?

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Absolutely.
We've talked about this in pastepisodes where we know Anakin's
weakness is his ability to love, and especially with Padme
Palpatine exploits thatrelationship, drawing Anakin in.
I think this was the firstepisode where we saw Palpatine
Papa Palpatine, as you like tosay.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
Yeah, Papa Palpatine.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Pulling the string with Rex.
In the first episode, anakinand Rex are like a well-oiled
machine, throwing ideas back andforth.
You realize this is the firsttime we've seen the clones
fighting an indigenous humanforce.
Yes, instead of just wave afterwave of dumb droid and the
locals were giving it to them.
Yeah.
And I think this was the firsttest of Palpatine to say okay,

(10:18):
anakin's attachment to his men,to his soldiers.
I have to pull that string too,to cut him off, because him and
Rex are so tight.
Him and the boys in the 501stwere so tight.
To take him away at such acrucial point and basically
bring in the worst substituteteacher you could imagine was

(10:39):
just pure evil cinema.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
And you bring up an interesting point too.
You know, by by pulling him out, by pulling pulling anakin out,
it really doesn't do anythingbecause we, we know that
palpatine's always trying topush anakin a little bit closer,
a little bit closer, a littlebit closer.
The dark side.
This doesn't necessarilydirectly impact him, because we

(11:06):
don't know what his reaction wasto all of this, but if anything
, it did impact rex and the boysand really opened up their eyes
.
And if anything, it may havebackfired on palpatine.
He wanted them wiped, maybe,but we saw them, we saw rex

(11:27):
especially.
We saw rex grow in a directionthat, uh, up to this point we
didn't think that he would go in.
I mean, at the very you know,he said you know, I, I, I honor
the code.
And then he's second guessingeverything by the end.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
And then he's second guessing everything by the end.
Yeah, and that was as acharacter building story for Rex
.
This was where you know thegood soldier, the guy that does
what he's told.
This was the first time you sawdoubt in Rex yeah.
About the mission and thelosses they were taking.
I mean, every episode we haveclone about clone bow, Somebody
goes up on the wall Remembrance.
This one was just like we can't.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
There's no room.
There's no room on the wall ofremembrance for every there.
I don't have enough walls toput this was.
We're just remembering everyonewho fought and died during the
battle of Umbara Um.
Salute brothers, because yikesUm Louie, let me ask you this

(12:25):
because I was when, when I firstwatched this and when they
first hit the planet, um, I wasgetting a lot of uh and crash.
You brought this up too.
I'll go back to that.
But I was getting a lot of uhlike vietnam war movie vibes
yeah to, you know great vibesand and crash.
You had mentioned that theywere just getting hit by the

(12:47):
umbarnes left and right and theywould just disappear.
I mean, there was.
There's a lot of vietnam inthis a lot of vietnam a lot of,
a lot of.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Yeah I.
The thing I found interestingwas as each new wave of attacks
came in, you know, first it wasthe uh centipede tanks yeah, I'm
thinking of the old centipedevideo game.
As it got closer to you, you'relike oh my God, we're screwed.
And as the mechs got bigger andbigger and more, the rocket
launchers are useless.
This is useless.

(13:14):
You want us to walk up thesenarrow canyons and open fire.
Krell was just feeding theseguys into a meat grinder and the
boys just had it go.
They had to go through it butyou know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Talk about the bravery I mean these, these men.
No droid has ever exhibitedthat level of courage.
I mean, we see, I mean battledroids are, you know, comic
relief for the most part.
But you know, we haven't seenanyone exhibit this level of
courage up to this point.

(13:50):
And it really is a testament tothe clone troopers and to what
rex said to krell, when rex gotin krell's face and he said
these aren't just clones, theseare men and it's my job to keep
my men safe.
And krell was like, oh, you'vegot a spark of tenacity in you,

(14:11):
don't you shut the fuck up,krell, um louis.
So when we're, when we'retalking about, you know these,
these different, these differentparallels, we saw trenches,
like World War One type trenches.
We saw the roads mined, similarto what we've seen in the

(14:31):
desert theater of Iraq andAfghanistan, and all that.
So you know and Louie, you're aveteran, so, like, from your
perspective as a service member,you know, we got to see kind of
like what was going on in theirheads.
But, as a service member, like,what are?
What are your thoughts on thisas in terms of like, how they're

(14:53):
portraying these soldiers?

Speaker 3 (14:59):
Hmm, well, as someone who is not a combat veteran, I
can't really speak to the combatportion of it, but I think
throughout you can see how much,how much, the individual relies

(15:23):
on the team.
You know what I mean.
So, like they, they're notletting people fall behind,
they're making sure thateverybody is staying together,
everybody is following orders.
They're not.
It's not like every man forthemselves, you know what I mean
and it's not like with starwars in general and I'll say

(15:45):
this from like a person who'sprimarily a movie and live
action TV show watcher, asopposed to the animated these
stories that were told throughStar Wars are primarily
individual heroic characterstories, you know what I mean
Like an ensemble cast.
Right, right right right Doingtheir own thing.

(16:06):
Yeah right, um, and, and whatwas really great about this
episode, um, which is kind ofrelated, not really is.
There was no other little sidemissions going on and all these
other arcs.
Right, you've got anakin's overhere doing something that
correlates with up in the nextepisode.
It's about obi-wan, who's onthe other side of the galaxy,

(16:29):
but it kind of correlates towhat anakin did in the first
episode and then the thirdepisode we never even cut to
obi-wan right obi-wan was therein the same battle, exactly
exactly once, anakin left a fewhologram, you know right calls,
but that was right, yeah

Speaker 1 (16:44):
but at some point were you expecting to cut.
You know, to see Obi-Wan wasdoing.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
Yeah, yes, or Anakin to come back, or you know like,
yeah, or Dooku to reveal himself, as this was.
You know his whole plot, like,but none of that happened.
And when Krell at the end was,you you know like, oh yeah, it
was just cause I wanted to do it.
And you know like that's notwhat I was expecting.

(17:13):
You know like I think it was atthe end of episode two at like,
kind of like the camera kind ofpans to his eye, and you know
you can tell like okay there's,there's something going on,
right.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
It's.
He's not just a dick, he's isthat.
Is that?
When is that?
When you, when you picked up onthe fact that he's doing more
than just because initially they, the way they played it was,
he's just really strict, almosthe's got like drill sergeant
vibes right.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
You know, we know anakin's a little loosey-goosey,
but uh you know, like I thinkit was episode, trying to
remember the episodes, I thinkit's episode.
What was the episode with?
I think it was rookies, wherethey go through um, where they
go through the training protocoland they have to, you know, get

(18:02):
like a certain time is thatwhat it's called rookies?

Speaker 1 (18:06):
no, no rookies, I think was when they, that's when
they were that was on rishiyeah, that was the reason okay.
Well, you know what episode I'mtalking about when they're in
their like white and green armorand they're going through that
right, right, right.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
So the characters that were like intentionally
trying to make them fail, likethat's kind of what that
reminded me of initially.
Right, like when this jedi gothere and he was being hard, like
at first, it felt like he wasjust being hard because he was
wanting to toughen them up.
You know like kind of like howthat guy was trying to toughen
up the, the, the recruits andstuff like that.

(18:39):
Right, but then, um, but thenyeah, the.
As the episodes progressed, Iwas like, so, like at the as the
episodes progressed, I was likethat's like, at the end of
episode two, I was like, yeah,this has got to be like like a
dooku thing.
Next episode, dooku, and, and,and, ventress, and.
And then it didn't come and Iwas like, wow, this is yeah and
then the lightsaber, when, when,homeboy, he's a savage two

(19:06):
folding double-ended lightsabersand he's a four-armed creature.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Four arms and he's like the same same species as as
as dex.
Yeah, is it dax, dax?
Right, dex, dex?
Yeah, I was like oh my god,because again, I was watching it
with Sherry and Sherry said shesaid what a waste of potential.
I mean like what a waste ofpotential.

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You have this four-armed giant,scary-ass motherfucker with two
double-bladed lightsabers thatcan just drop.
I mean, he's basically like aGrievous, you know, going ham on
anything that gets in front ofhim, and he did.
But unfortunately he went hamon our boys and it hurt my heart

(19:55):
, like everyone that went downhurt my heart.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
And you notice just his pure anatomy.
Those hands are not human-sized, those are big hands.
He's a baseball bat, treetrunks and his lightsabers
matched his proportion.
So those things were like tellthem like.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
I know that, like if they didn't, if, if, if it
wasn't I know this was this wasstill before the Disney buyout,
so they were still on cartoonnetwork.
I think, right, this was stillbefore the Disney buyout, so
they were still on CartoonNetwork.
I think Right, had they been ona different type of network, we
might have seen MotherfuckersChopped in Half, because I mean
to be fair.
I mean when, krell, we'll getmore into that episode.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
He freaking, broke dudes back.
He just like stabbed his spineRight Like Backbreaker stabbed
him backbreaker In half.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Who's that guy from Mortal Kombat?
Oh Goro yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Oh, a quick, quick, little, little little trivia
piece here.
Barriss and Ahsoka were in thefirst episode.
They were there in the spacebattle, so you'd have to like
stop and freeze, frame it,because they just fly by in
there.
They're Jedi star fighters.
But yeah, um and sherrymentioned that too had had had
ahsoka come, you know, toreplace anakin, it would have

(21:18):
been a whole different story.
But let me ask you this butwould it have been?
successful.
Would it have been worth it,like we did?
Did rex need this?
Did rex need for this to happen?
Because he's so.
I don't want to say that he'sblindly loyal, because he's not,
but at the same time it's likehis name is rex.

(21:41):
That's a common, very loyaldog's name, you know and so you
can't help but to draw thoseparallels.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
But now it's like it's funny that you mentioned
that, because I actually made Iactually made a note.
It's the only note that I madewas and, and I wrote it down
when it happened as opposed towaiting oh, oh, is that another
echo?

Speaker 1 (22:06):
do you hear an echo?
I do hello, hello, hello okayno as long as you hear my echo.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
That's cool yeah, um what I saying Lost my train of
thought.
You wrote a note.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
You wrote a note.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
Oh yeah, my note, and I wrote this before watching
the end.
I wrote it and this was likefive minutes into the first
episode and I didn't writeanything else after it.
Anakin looks to Rex and they'retalking about Shoot what is
that?
Looks to Rex and they'retalking about shoot what is that

(22:39):
?
Oh my gosh, what's the name ofthe clone?
The other, the other main clonein this, in this series, Cody?

Speaker 1 (22:52):
five.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
Five was the other art trooper with him no, the,
the one that kind of like wastoo loyal.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
Oh Dogma.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
Dogma, thank you, I didn't write that down, so Dogma
had said something.
And Rex said, oh, he's tightknit but he's loyal.
And Anakin looks and says, kindof like you, yeah, he reminds
me of you, right?
And he said and.
And rex said turned to him andsaid maybe a long time ago yeah

(23:21):
and.
But he says that before thiseven happens.
So he's basically it.
To me it felt like he wastelling anakin like, oh no, I've
already matured past that.
And then we see, no, he reallyhasn't, because in the beginning
he was still that blind loyal,he was still following krell,
even though in the beginning heknew that krell was wrong.

(23:41):
You know, and he just keptfollowing along, like, like,
kept justifying it in his mindthat it's, it's just an order,
it's just an order.
But my question is, and I'llask this to you guys you know,
had Rex really had matured, like, could Rex have stopped this
from happening?
Could Rex had Rex saidsomething or done something

(24:05):
earlier in the missions you know, episode one, episode two when
he knew that things could goreally wrong?
Why wasn't he using thatmaturity of battle that he was
referencing to know when heneeded to step in?

Speaker 1 (24:22):
I think, at this point, I think rex, rex started
to develop a lot of conflict, Ithink, in my opinion, um, when
he met cut, I think that's whena lot of his conflict and his
doubt started.
You know, here we see a clone,who, who made a life for himself
, you know, with, uh, with hisfine little twilight, um, but I

(24:48):
think from there he started, hemaybe not second guessing his
position, not second guessinghis, his purpose or his coat of
honor or anything like that, butI do think that it started to
weigh on him that, you know,there's, there's more than just
what we were bred for, like youknow, and you know, and we see,

(25:12):
there's so much individualityand we see it more in this
episode than we have ever seen.
I mean the haircuts, thetattoos, you know.
I mean this is the first time,I think.
I think this is the first timethat we're seeing Rex in his
phase two armor.
And it's not regulation, it's a, it's a Frankenstein chopped up

(25:33):
up version of, you know, phaseone and proper phase two.
And you know he's, of course,he's got his, he's got his hash
marks on for all the kills he'shad.
I mean, you know, and so we'reseeing, we're seeing all of this
and, but he's had his hairchopped and and and dyed blonde,
you know, since, you know,episode one is in the very

(25:54):
beginning, so that it that thatneed for individuality is there,
and it seems like whether thecam and owens meant to bake that
into them or not doesn't matter, because they've got that sense
of individuality.
So I don't know, I, I thinkthat he because that's a great

(26:14):
question, louis I, I just thinkthat he has been trying to tow
that line, you know, trying tobe that good soldier, you know,
but it's just gotten to thepoint even in the end, he
couldn't x, even aftereverything.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
He couldn't execute him.
He knew he went there to do it.
You know he was like this isyou deserve this?

Speaker 1 (26:32):
He is incapable of shooting an unarmed man in the
back, even though Jedi are nevertruly unarmed.
But Rex can't do it.
He can't do it.
Yeah, it's crazy, yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
And contrast that with Krell skipping procedure
and going straight to executingthe two clones for having a
successful mission with the ship.
They take the captured ships in, pull an Anakin, blow up the
ship from within and he stillorders their execution.
And when the clonesdeliberately miss because they

(27:10):
just couldn't bring themselvesto do it, it shows there's just
that line that Rex wasn't readyto.
Even when it was just personalinsults by referring to him by
his number and stuff like that,he bit his lip and he was being
the good soldier as long as hecould and he just couldn't cross
that last step to.
As you're watching the wholearc you can see some of the men

(27:33):
were like we're going to have tokill this guy before he kills
us.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
Oh yeah, and I think, like, as we're, as we're
watching this, you know, I want,I do want to go episode by
episode, but I mean it's, it's,it's, oh god, it's so good it
all.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
Yeah, that's the thing with this.
It's because they never cut toanything else.
It just feels like like.
Like tony said, I think in hissecond comment.
He said he usually likes towatch an episode and then kind
of processed on it before hedoes it again.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
And here he said for this arc he couldn't wait, he
just had to go right into it if,if they, if someone makes a
super cut like of this, like cutout the intros and the outros
and and all that, you couldlegit watch this all the way
through as a standalone movie,and it would.
It would still be so good.
So, oh my god.
So let's, let's talk about, um,that second episode, and uh,

(28:29):
that's when I there was.
There was so much frustration,like that's the one where
they're, um, they're going,they're going for the airbase,
and it's just like I.
And I think that's when, whenCarl said you're going to take
the road in, right, yeah, you'regoing to go straight on taking
the road and we're going tocapture this airbase, um, no, no

(28:52):
, no, no, no, going down theroad was from when they were
attacking the city and they gotfucked up.
This was that little gully hewas like you're gonna go
straight down.
Yeah, um, I was gettingfrustrated, like every time they
took a breath the um barns wereon them again.
Every time, you know, first itwas that little, that little
electric oh yeah, the critterelectric critter and then they

(29:16):
got.
They got jumped.
They, they swept the road formines pulled back.
While they were pulled back,they got jumped.
It was just I was like guys, ohmy god, like I felt it in my,
oh god, I feel so bad for youguys.
So we're, so we're getting intothis and and this is the
episode, the General and we hadsome really, really cool scenes

(29:43):
in that, and that's when therealization begins as well, when
they're starting to see, likeyou know what there's something
going on here.
We're not just fodder and thatthis.
I think this was the episodewhere um, no, it was the first

(30:04):
episode where rex stood up.
But you know, they're reallythere's, there's some dissension
there, especially between fivesand rex.
Fives is is on it, but Rex isstill.
He's still just trying to holdthat line.
Crash.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Yeah, and having Fives there was a great addition
because he's worked with Rexbefore.
He's an advanced trooper.
He's probably seen other stylesof command as he's moved around
from campaign to campaign.
So for him to literally betelling rex, this is not right,
this is not how we should betreated as soldiers, as men.

(30:41):
And rex again just couldn'tbreak the line.
He couldn't step over, you know, because fives was it?
You know we saw him in the inthe early stages of their.
You know, their knows what it'slike to have a commander or
somebody not pulling for thehome team, as it were, so that

(31:03):
you realize that when they'reout in the field like that,
they're on their own and allthey can rely on.
I love we'll get later on.
There's an iconic shot of theboys as they're walking back to
confront Krell.
Finally, iconic shot of theboys as they're walking back to
confront Krell.
Finally, and you know thecorrect puts it, and there's
just, it's just the bad-ass walkof star Wars.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
Love it.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
I love it Like that moment.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
That's such a great scene.
That is such a great scene.
I mean it's like the boys areback and they're getting ready
to fuck shit up.
And how, how much courage doesit take, as clone troopers, to
face off against a jedi likekrell?
I mean, we've seen, we've seenrex go toe-to-toe, you know,

(31:46):
against asajj, you know, knowinghe can't compete with force,
powers and abilities, but hewon't stop, and the other clones
won't either.
And that's it Even.
You know what let's talk about.
Let's talk about dogma for asecond Misguided yes.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Perfectly named, though, for what he represented.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
Yeah, misguided, yes, but a different type of loyalty
, like what are your thoughts onon dogma here?
Because it's like, on one hand,he was hardline being a good
soldier, but then, on the otherhand, he was going against his

(32:30):
brothers.
What are your thoughts on that?

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Do you want to go?

Speaker 3 (32:35):
Louie.
No, you go, cause I got tothink on that.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
Okay, to me he was an interesting.
He reminded me a lot of theinterpreter from the saving
private Ryan crew.
You know, he was sort ofsupposed to be the, the doughy
eyed rookie being thrown intothis impossible situation with
guys that have already seen it.
Yeah, and and and when the whenthe moment came and he sort of

(32:59):
flinched under fire and you knowhis friend got killed because
he was afraid to go in.
Dogma to me represented thatthat, that following the orders
too much, you know, listening tobad leadership too much, and it

(33:19):
was just it.
It was a great one time.
When they're in the in theclones are in their barracks and
you can tell when he walks inthe room they stop talking
because they know he's thesnitch, he's the one that's
going to go run to krell andtell them what they're talking
about.
And just the dynamic thatclones who think of themselves
as brothers, even they know whothe weak link in the chain was,
as it were.

(33:39):
I found him a com, aninteresting character, and and
that at the very end he's theone that pulled the trigger.
Yeah, because he just all ofhis faith in, in the system and
and what krell betrayed themjust came to a head and where
rex couldn't do it, he just hadenough that was very cool.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
He needed that redemption.
He felt like he had betrayedhis brothers and got his
brothers killed and he needed toto make it right in some way.
And one thing that, uh, that Iliked the interaction between
dogma and krell in in when, whenthey were, you know, in the
brig together and Krell laughingat him saying that, um, you

(34:25):
know, I needed you the most.
I needed people like you whoare just blindly faithful and
will believe anything.
And I was like, oh man, I don'twant to say that that sounds
like the republican party, but Imean that kind of sounds like
like that line like you know, Idon't I'm not gonna bring
politics into this, but but I ambut it's like that that really

(34:48):
hit different, because it's likekrill was like if kr isn't
Trump, he definitely would havevoted for Trump and he needs
those, those blind, ignorantloyalists to legitimize his
crazy, stupid plans.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
There's a.
There's a great Easter egg.
I don't know if you guys pickedup on this or not.
Krell had his little entourage,you know his two troopers or so
that always flanked himwherever he went and he kind of
referenced to Sergeant Apo Inthe comics and later, after the
canon got flipped around.
But even later on, apo ends upbeing the head of the 501st when

(35:31):
Vader's in charge.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Order 66.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
After Order 66, because when this show came out
immediately, people's firstthought was well, what happens
to Rex?
And we'll find out later.
I don't want to give that away,but it's interesting that one
of Krell's bootlickingtag-alongs ends up getting
command of the 501st aroundOrder 66, because he would
probably blindly follow orders.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
I'm glad you brought him up because you know what
let's, let's do a little, let'slet's sidetrack and and and do a
few little easter eggs andthings like that.
There's a lot in this arc.
There was a lot.
But uh, sergeant, oppo the um,the arrow that's on his, his,
his helmet.
I don't know if you guysnoticed that he's got a white

(36:15):
arrow on his helmet.
That was a callback to Avatar,the Last Airbender, and Filoni
was the director on that.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
Oh interesting.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
So people always complain about Dave, like, oh
man, he always brings hischaracters into live action, not
just from Star Wars, not justfrom the Star Wars franchise,
he's bringing it in fromeverywhere.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
I guess I didn't realize that Dave Filoni worked
on Avatar.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
Yeah, I think he was the supervising director for
that.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
Like the whole show.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
I believe so yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
Didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
And that's why Avatar the Last Airbender is so good,
because it's a Dave Filoni joint.
So T Deoni here.
He commented.
He said I loved that Krell usedPalpatine's line of it's
treason then when the teamconfronted him, I love that
Absolutely.
But there's also a few otherlittle things that happen.

(37:17):
Most of it happened, I think,in like the last, the last
episode of this arc.
But um, when hard case andfives were going into the um,
the airbase, and hard case hesays you know, I prefer straight
up fight instead all thissneaking around.
I was like all right, han solomoment, okay.

(37:40):
And then we have another hansolo moment when they're in the
hangar and krell calls down what, what's going on?
Oh, yeah, yeah that what's yourct number?
right, what's your ct number?
It's like when, when they dothings like that, that is, it's

(38:01):
just delightful because in inthose moments, that's when you
know that we're watchingsomething that's created by fans
.
Like whoever wrote thatdialogue I don't know if it was
dave, I haven't like really deepdived into the episode like
that but, um, whoever it was,bless your soul because you are

(38:22):
star wars.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
You love star wars, you know oh go ahead, even even
the part where they you knowthey talk about how.
Yeah, general skywalker told usabout how he blew up a trade
Federation ship, right.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
Yeah, story about when I was.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
I remember when I was eight and I like blew up a
trade Federation ship all bymyself Like you can see Anakin
and the boys in the barracks ona ship and like trading.
Oh yeah, I blew up a ship whenI was eight years old.
Top that.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
And I can totally see Anakin doing that, because
Anakin does have a bit of an egoyeah that, because anakin does
have a bit of an ego.
Yeah just a little bit, a littlebit, and I'm pretty sure, and
he loves his guys.
So I I agree with you.
I think that's exactly whathappened.
They were probably sittingchilling somewhere waiting,
because, like we know, in themilitary it's always hurry up
and wait and wait, hurry up andwait.

(39:08):
So that's probably what wasgoing on and, like you said,
they were trading some warstories.
He's like yeah, you know, whenI was like eight or nine, I blew
up a trade federation droid nobig deal, big deal in a stolen
naboo starfighter save the daysave the day again.
I don't want to.

(39:29):
I want to see that conversation.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
I want to see that conversation he was 9 he was 9
and I think Padme was 14.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
I think there's like a 5 year age difference.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
Weird Al says 14, so that's what we're going to go
with, alright we'll go with that.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
So at that age it's weird and creepy.
But once they're in their 20s Iguess it's cool.
But you know, 9 years old and ateenager, it's like ahhh, but
it's the.
But you know, nine years old,the teenager is like ah, but
it's the outer rim, so you cando whatever the fuck you want.
I mean, if you can have slaves,then a little bit of mild
pedophilia isn't gonna isn'tgonna hurt anything, so it's,
it's fine.
Um, I did just read somethinginteresting I don't know if we

(40:08):
have any um robotech fans.
I am a huge robotech fan.
I love robotech.
Robotech was my uh, my firstintroduction to anime when I was
a kid.
Um the uh, the umbaran soldiersI'm reading here were based off
of the zentradi from robotechand the uh sardukers from dune.

(40:32):
Is that how you say it?
The sardukers from Dune?
Is that how you say it?
The Sardaukers?

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Sardukars.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
Sardukar, I don't fuck with Dune, so I don't know,
I don't know.
I only saw the original Dunewith David Bowie and Patrick
Stewart.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
You haven't seen the ones with Timothee Chalamet
Chalamet.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
No, I have not.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
They're good.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
I'm not like a big dune person, but they're good
okay, um, so let's talk a littlebit more about about fives and
uh and hard case and that firstride in the, uh, the
umbarfighters.
They were having the time oftheir lives, they were man,

(41:19):
their boys were getting beat upby those.
Was it the tanks at that point?
Yeah, it was the tanks.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
Like the scorpion-style tank with the big
gun on the back.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
Yeah, they were getting beat up, their boys were
getting beat up and we and thisto me anyway was this was joe's
, this was this was militaryguys.
That's exactly that's exactlyhow a couple of joes would react
to getting their hands on enemyequipment, like a hundred

(41:50):
percent, like without fail.
So, and that makes me wondertoo, like do they have you know
military, you know veterans?
Do we have veterans on staffhelping out with some of the
writing or the consulting orwhatever?
Because that was just like spoton.
So I don't know.
So last episode, this was theheavy one, right?

(42:16):
Last episode, this is the onewe're going to.
We'll talk about this.
We'll probably end the showafter this, because I don't have
the emotional bandwidth to goon after.
So things with Krell arestarting to pop off.
Rex is very, very angry.
Rex is very, very angry.
We're seeing we saw the boysdrop their weapons and refuse to

(42:40):
execute their brothers, whichwas great.
And then the 501st are sent outto fight the enemy, who are
dressed like them.
And that's when she gets real.
Rex learns what's happening,goes out there and drops to his

(43:08):
knees like broken, like Louis,what you had said earlier about,
about him, like you know, yeah,that was me, you know, maybe
back in the day, you know now,when, when you, what were your
thoughts like on that?
Because, again, you, you know,crash and I have seen this

(43:28):
before.
But when, when you saw thatwhole, that whole thing played
out, what was, what were youthinking about?

Speaker 3 (43:35):
I was.
At first I was trying to, likeI, I guess I didn't, it all
happened so fast, like I didn'trealize.
I guess, like I like I knewwhat they were doing.
But when he said oh you know,they have our clone armor on, I
was like, yeah, dumbass, becausethey're clones, like I guess.
At first I just couldn'tunderstand why they didn't get

(43:57):
it, you know um but yeah,because they trusted in krell.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
They trusted in krell .
Krell said that they're usingthey're disguised as clone
troopers.
Yeah, so they had no reason tonot believe a jedi, you know,
yeah I guess supposed to betrusted?

Speaker 3 (44:19):
yeah, there was definitely um, we had talked
about this earlier where we weresaying you know that rex always
, you know kind of like, foundthat line.
You know what, I and he rodethat line as much as he possibly
could and we saw that in thisarc right, because every time he

(44:43):
was given an order asinsubordinate as he could
without you know, calling for anexecution they weren't supposed
to take out those centipedesthey weren't supposed to take
out they weren't supposed toretreat on the road.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
They weren't supposed to.

Speaker 3 (45:04):
Yeah right, right, um , but this was like a like a
switch, right, like this waslike a switch flip.
This is when I think that oldRex was gone.
That was the moment that Ithink it would have been cool if

(45:27):
this arc would have happenedand then his armor changed to
kind of show that.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
To show how broken he is.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
Right, right, him coming into this arc with the
new armor that I feel likethat's a missed opportunity,
dave, um, but yeah, so there's,this is him ascending next level
as a character.
I think this arc really was him, like we're just seeing his
character progression go to thenext level.

(45:56):
Right, he's now.
I, I would say now he's maincharacter status.
You know what I mean, like, andand I mean I guess to other
people maybe he was maincharacter status earlier, but I
mean for me in the clone wars,like ahsoka, main character
immediately.
Right, like some of these jedi,main character immediately.
Um, you know, rex, for me, hadto earn his main character

(46:19):
status.
I guess, um, this, this arc,was it?
This, this is, yeah, this waswhere rex is now.
Like, oh, I love rex, you knowwhat I mean.
Like, I now have, uh, anattachment to him.
Um, and that's one more thing Iwant to say and I'm not going
to talk anymore because I feellike I've talked too much this
episode you're on a podcast, Ihope you talk yeah, well, um,

(46:46):
usually, when it comes to thingslike prequels and side stories
and stuff like that, um, I'm ahuge person against characters
with plot armor.
Like I hate, like what.
The more that we see anakin andthe more that we see obi-wan and
the more that we see theseother characters, personally,

(47:07):
for me, I don't care so muchabout their stories because I
know what happens to them.
So, for me, watching this showis about the clones, right,
because these are the charactersthat don't have plot armor.
As we've seen, our wall ofremembrance, you know, like tony
just said, ptsd from this, likethis, these are the characters

(47:30):
that we, as fans, are going toattach ourselves to because they
are the characters without theplot armor.
We know what happens to Anakin.
We know what happens to Obi-Wan.
We don't know what happens toRex.
We don't know what happens toCody.
We don't know what happens toFives.
Fives could have died in this,which would have killed me,
because Fives is like myfavorite, but like, yeah, if

(47:52):
they touch Fives, look, I'mwriting this down right now.
Okay, all right, so you know,you know how Game of Thrones,
right, like you never see itcoming, all right, right, as
soon as you fall in love with acharacter.
They're dead Right, Don't fuckwith fives.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
Please, that's fair, that's fair.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
Please.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
That's fair.
Please Don't fuck with fives,dave.
I agree totally.
I'm a big Rex fan from day one.
This was literally the levelingup of that character from just
a recurring character to go withAnakin to you could literally
base entire story arcs off ofhim.
And the the master class ofvoice acting that was Dee

(48:39):
Bradley creating differentpersonalities just with his
voice in for the clones.
But the thing I really yeah, wehaven't touched on yet and it
just it's got to be Krell, youbastard, is just a brilliant bit
of script flipping in that.

(49:00):
He would be the perfect KarenTravis Jedi.
He hates the clones, he doesn'tthink of them as human and he
just throws them out there toget slaughtered.
All you had to do was betrayeverything, yeah.
He betrays everything the Jediistand for.
You look at, like yoda andobi-wan and anakin.

(49:21):
We see these guys, they, theyhonor these guys, they respect
these guys they go into battlewith.
So to see a guy like krell comealong and literally, like I
said, purposely insulting the,the clones, but using their,
their number, not their name,which is, you know, we can talk
about gender identity and people, treating people with respect

(49:41):
from a leadership standpoint.
I mean, he was pulling Dickmove left and right and he was
doing it deliberately and at theend he even flaunted it.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
Yeah, cause, and yeah , and that's, that's just a
tactic used to minimalize thepeople that you're talking to.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
You're yeah, you're yeah, you're absolutely right
and tommy you and I know, like,as, as veterans, like that's,
that's a leadership.
I mean that's a leadershipthing that we see, you know, in
our military, like there isleadership out there, that that
they take that power to theextreme and and and yeah, they

(50:16):
only refer to you by your rankright, you know, come here
private.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
come here, sergeant.
You know they never refer toyou by your name or it's always
prefaced.
You know with come here private, you know so and so come here,
sergeant, so and so you knowwhatever, and it just shows that
you're not anything to them,you're not that human element to
them.
So I really do, I feel likethis really did show a lot of

(50:48):
the reality of being in themilitary.
It showed the camaraderie, itshowed that brotherhood, it
showed how you deal with loss onthe battlefield.
You know like how you knowthere was that part with the
with kicks and it's rex like yougot to leave him, you got to
leave him out there.
If you go to get him those,those creatures are going to get

(51:09):
you and we need you.
You're our medic, you knowyou're.
You're our corpsman, you're ourdoc, we need you.
Right, and it's like that's'reour corpsman, you're our doc, we
need you.
And it's like that's one ofthose tough calls that Rex had
to make.
And and I agree with both ofyou 100% we haven't seen Rex
until right now.
He's been there but we haven'treally seen him.

(51:31):
This was Rex.
We saw Rex.
Rex was born.
This is Rex, this is CaptainRex.
So I loved it.
Can we give thoughts andprayers to Waxer please?

Speaker 2 (51:52):
Oh, that was just the biggest dick punch to the fans
because it was bad enough tohave the crossfire, something
straight out of Platoon whereit's just gut-wrenching scene
but to then afterwards, oh, it'slike, oh, that was some of the
212, and to pick out a guy, oneof their face characters, as it

(52:14):
were, that we, we know, you knowpeople have come to know and
love and go.
Oh, yeah, we don't know whoshot him.
Yeah, they thought he was adroid.
Yeah, there was no mal, it wasjust.
It just highlighted the tragedyfrom both sides of that
skirmish that neither side knewwhat was going on until it was
too late and thank God Rexstopped him Right.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
But I like man seeing Waxer, because it's like with
Waxer we've we've been therewith Waxer.
He hasn't been on a lot, himand Boyle haven't been on a lot,
only a few episodes.
He hasn't been on a lot, himand Boyle haven't been on a lot,

(53:08):
only a few episodes.
But we've been there with himfor critical moments in this
character's life when him andBoyle meet Numa and care for
this little girl and take her tosafety.
Seeing the humanity of theclones, you know they're not
just soldiers, they do haveindividual personalities.
Like you said, man, hats off toyou know, to d, for giving them
all different personalities.
That can't be easy.
It's good writing and it'sfucking outstanding voice acting
.
But the fact that he had he hadhad a little, a little cartoon
Numa on his bucket Are youfucking kidding me right now,

(53:32):
dave?
Dave, are you doing this to myheart, seriously?
Um, and then the tear.
The tear because it's like whatdid we do?
And, oh my God, tonyony'sweighing in on this stuff.
What's it's like?
I want to see a death battlebetween krell and grievous and

(53:54):
then shoot the winner I wouldand then shoot the winner and,
uh, I thought rex's episode withcut was a revelation and good
character growth.
This was a whole other levelthat came from uh t to the oni
as well.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
Oh, yeah, and he's right.
This, this was you know, for asmuch as the mortis trilogy did
it for the main face character,jedi.
Yeah, this you know.
We've talked about this beforein episodes.
We every time we was like, oh,wait till you get to ambara,
wait till you get to ambara.
This is why this was really thebirth of a deep Dark, is not, I

(54:29):
don't want to say it justbecause the environment was dark
, but gut-wrenching, I think,when they realized the clones
were shooting at each other, Ithink the word gobsmacked comes
to mind there was just you juststand there staring.
Even this week I watched itagain and I'm just standing
there open-mouthed like I can'tbelieve this is happening In a

(54:52):
cartoon, which is fine.
I understand people have issueswith animated show versus
live-action show.
But as far as you couldn't dothis with a live-action cast I
mean imagine shooting a Band ofBrothers level show with clone
armor but what they could dowith anime you couldn't make a
world like Umbara.

(55:12):
No, no, of course not, so theydo it in animation, but if you
just take that aside and just goon what the story they're
telling you is, this wasgut-wrenching from start to
finish.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
And I know a lot of people like to make fun of
people who say who, who, uh,compare this to band of brothers
, you know, and shows like that.
This is not everybody's like.
Oh, it's dark and gritty, youknow, and they're saying it
sarcastically.
But is this as heavy as band ofbrothers?
No, absolutely not.

(55:44):
No, I, I agree, um, but thesubject matter for the
demographic that it was made for, this is heavy.
This is, this is heavy stuffand to present that to you know,
teens and pre-teens you know,think about the audience, like

(56:06):
who this show is geared towards.

Speaker 3 (56:07):

Speaker 2 (56:08):
Like I'm actually glad ahsoka or barris or you
know, you were saying they'rebriefly seen in the space.
I'm glad they almost weren't.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
On this on the ground level it's too much this would
be traumatizing oh yeah, for allthe battles they've been
through for all the.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
You know everybody loves seeing, you know lights,
the kids with lightsabers doingtheir thing.
I think a story like this,where it's just pure carnage and
and just you know, like there'sstuff that happened we find out
later in ahsoka relevant tothis, there it's like this would
weigh on her for the rest ofher life.

Speaker 1 (56:39):
Going through at a moment like this and she's
already got a lot going on.
I mean, ahsoka already has alot on her shoulder.
Yeah, she's 15 going on, 40 I,you know I was.
I I went live for a few minutesbefore the show tonight on on
tiktok and we talked aboutahsoka and I have to say that

(57:00):
ahsoka is probably I don't wantto say she's my favorite
character necessarily, becauserex is my favorite character,
but the level of development forahsoka you know what we know
about her based on what we'veseen so far and louis, you
haven't seen shit yet I mean, weget there's still so much more

(57:22):
to go with ahsoka, like you'veseen at this point.
You've seen the beginning ofher story and you've seen the
live action where she is now inher story and we still her
story's not done yet.
And I'm so excited about thatbecause we saw her as snips
coming in like okay, sky guy,you know, and and just like this
bright-eyed, full of hope.

(57:45):
And then there's the wholemiddle part that you didn't see
yet.
There's the whole middle partand by the time you see her
again, she's just fucking burntout.
I mean she's, she is worldweary, yeah, but you're about to
fucking see the middle part andhow she got to be that way, you

(58:06):
know.
So it's like, ah, strap in boys, because it's uh, it's going to
be interesting and we're notdone with the heavy.
There's, uh, there's, there'ssome, I mean there's.
You know there's going toalways be the filler, the comic
relief episodes, but it's gonna,it's gonna be a ride.
Fella it be a ride.

Speaker 3 (58:23):
I really do like the episodes where there's less
jumping around and more likefocus story.
Like I said, this is the.
I mean this arc is my favoriteof what we've seen on the show
so far.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
I'm so glad.
I'm so glad because I I feelthe same way like out of out of
every, everything in star wars.
The ombara arc is my favoritething in star wars it's very
good it was very good I'm gladyou like it.
So, because I know like priorto this you had been saying that
you know you were like twoweeks like struggling.

Speaker 3 (59:03):
Oh, I haven't watched it, it's like, like oh I mean
just read the cliff notes andright, you're like, it's like.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
Look, I didn't watch it.

Speaker 3 (59:13):
I was like I'll have it on in the background and I'll
be doing something else andI'll follow along with the story
.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
But like I'm not locked in man, 60 seconds into
this episode I was locked theheck in and now you're invested
and it only took you three and ahalf seasons to get there and
you're invested and it's goingto be.
I don't think you're going tobe disappointed with the rest of
it because we already know thedirection the Clone Wars take.
So you already know things aregoing to start getting more and

(59:40):
more serious as we go.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
And the good thing.
I don't know if you've heard ofthis, tommy.
I've heard Sam Witwer andpeople talking about their work
on the show as actors and theyalways say the same thing where
they would go to do other thingsand people.
You know, this was the timewhen Clone Wars was sort of as a
show was getting credibilityfor their cast.

(01:00:03):
It wasn't just a, it justwasn't a Star Wars cartoon for
kids.
People were going, wow, there'ssome good storytelling going on
here, there's some depth to it.
And by the later seasons Iremember Katie Zakoff and a few
other people would say thatpeople were coming and asking
what was it like working onClone Wars?

(01:00:24):
It was becoming a talking pointwithin the industry because the
show had just done so much goodwork right the writing was
getting so much recognition.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
It was just it's a great show and I'm I'm so glad
that we're we're experiencing itthis way in order because, as
we start watching other things,once the clone wars wrap and we
move into rebels, good googamooga, and I hated rebels.
When it came out, I hated it, Idid not like it.
So, um, I didn't even getthrough the first season of

(01:00:57):
rebels because I was like, oh, Iwas one of those.
You know the animation styleand ezra just as annoying as
shit, and it's just like.
I was like I appreciate the artstyle because it's all based on
ralph mccorry's originalconcept art, so I appreciate it
I it was.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
It was a hard night.
90 degree turn from what yougot used to with clone wars and
sort of the dave filoni style.
And then to do somethingdrastically different was it
felt it it was jarring, okay,and then to do something
drastically different, it feltit was jarring.
Rebels is actually my favoriteshow of the animated and even
some of the, I'd say my favoriteshow of the Disney era, just
because not just the art stylebut that's the era of Star Wars.

(01:01:39):
I like that pre A New Hope era.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
Because that's when there's more desperation there,
because there is no hope.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
At that point we're all Rebels on the run.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
Right, and as I watched more Rebels I never
finished the series, but as Iwatched more of it, the
interactions that we're seeingbetween the Rebels characters
and the Clone Wars characterstalk about heart-wrenching.
It's just.
It's such a great show.
And speaking of heart-wrenching, tony says also rip to hard

(01:02:13):
case.
Hard case coming in clutch withthe uh the sacrifice play,
taking out the command ship,sacrificing for the, for the
team.
And uh, man, I love hard case.
He was so fun name.
Oh, but it fits him, he's ahard case.

(01:02:35):
It's like, dude, shut up, calmdown.
He's like, nah, I'm doing thisfor the fun.
Um, he reminds me a lot of um,god, I can't remember his name
from Bad Batch.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
Oh Wrecker.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
Wrecker.
Yeah, he reminds me of WreckerSame personality.
Alright, that is going to be it.
Thoughts I think we've alreadygone through thoughts, but
closing thoughts on the Umbaraarc, daddy Louie on the Umbara
arc.

Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
Daddy Louie, yeah, I wish that I could recommend.
I wish that there was a waythat people could see this
episode earlier than you'regoing to.
I realize that that kind ofmakes the impact of some of the
character stories less impactfulbecause we hadn't had that
growth.
But I will say that if you're,if you're listening to this now

(01:03:32):
and you haven't seen any CloneWars, so why would you be
listening to this now?
But I guess if you happen tostumble upon this moment of this
episode right now and you haveseen no Clone Wars or you're
just starting Clone Wars andyou're like this is a struggle,
like I did, I promise you Just.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
I agree.

Speaker 3 (01:03:59):
I mean, play it in the background if you have to.
But get to this point right nowbecause I told you that was
good star wars I told you it wasgood, good star wars.
I thoroughly enjoyed it good.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
I'm so happy.
That makes my heart feel good.
I'm so happy that you enjoyedit.
I know that you enjoyed it, butdidn't enjoy it at the same
time because it was fuckingbrutal emotionally yeah, but
sometimes those are the bestthings to watch, right?

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
who knew that?

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
on the heart who knew that you could feel emotionally
connected to a fucking clonetrooper?
You know, and I'm getting moreemotional.

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
Like I said now, I'm emotionally attached to fives.
If they fuck with fives I'mgonna be fucking pissed off, you
know.
So it's like, it's not evenjust like.
And I like Rexx now, like I'venever really been a rex fan.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
I didn't, I, I didn't , I because you haven't seen him
before you know what I mean Itold tommy, when he came to
cleveland and I saw his rexarmor, I said dude, you are
going to be a rock star if youwear that thing, because rex was
the man yeah when this show wascame out.
You know he was a fun character,you didn't?
He didn't have that plot armoreven though he's wearing armor

(01:05:10):
that you could latch on to andjust like what is going to
happen to him and he's been, andthis is really a a growing up
moment for him in this arc but Igotta tell you I I had the
phase one rex armor and then Ihad the phase two armor.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
I never got mobbed until I was in the phase two
armor, like it.
When I wore the phase one armorout, I mean it was cool, it was
fine, but I was like a,basically a background player.
I was a stormtrooper.
You know, if anybody, if vaderor chewy were there, I might as
well have just been invisible,but people would say you know,
stormtrooper, you're aStormtrooper, you're a
Stormtrooper, whatever.
But in Phase 2 Rex it's likeYou're.

Speaker 3 (01:05:51):
Captain Rex.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
I'm fucking Captain Rex, Like sometimes I would get
a little more love than Vader.
Never as much as Chewie.
Chewie stops traffic Like itdoesn't even matter.
Chewie fucking stops trafficlike regardless, it doesn't even
matter.
If it's a screen-accurate,full-size Chewy, it could be a
half Chewbacca.
Hey, look at this.

(01:06:12):
We got someone calling usshills because we like something
Melvin's known, because wehappen to enjoy something.
So I guess that makes us shills.
Thanks, Melvin, for not knowingshit about us.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
Glad we reached the basement.
Is that even like?

Speaker 3 (01:06:32):
a slang for something .

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, people that use that terminology
Basically, it's like, if youlike, star Wars, current Star
Wars, which we're not eventalking about, current Star Wars
, we're talking about fuckingClone Wars.
Yeah, this was still Cartoon.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
Network what?

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
a dumbass.
Yeah, this is pre-Disney.
We're talking about pre-DisneyStar Wars, which everybody loves
, but we're shills for enjoyingsomething, but that's all they
can articulate.
People like that, that's allthey can articulate.
And it's like but you're here,you People like that, that's all
they can articulate.
It's like shouts.
But you're here, you'reinteracting with us.
Live Melvin's known.

(01:07:09):
Tell us why we're shills.
But they never will, becausethey don't have an answer for
that.
They never have an answer forthat.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
It's just because it goes straight into personal
insults.
By the way, Mickey Mouse, ifyou are listening, my check has
not cleared yet.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
I am a paid shill for Disney listening.
My check has not cleared yet Iam for real right.
You don't usually get paid forshit.
We're not getting paid for anymoney.
Mickey, look at he said thathe's triggered now.

Speaker 3 (01:07:32):
He just put in I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry that
we're really sorry, melvin he'sstill, he's still watching
melvin.
Thanks for watching, melvin,thanks for the view, appreciate
you so and that and that'sanother thing I do love ray.
Actually she's quite attractiveray love see.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
And again you've got some chucklehead.
That has no idea.
I do like ray, I don't.
But that's not.
That's like ray.
Come on, man see.
And that's another thing.
So, melvin, see.
So this is.
This is why you're an idiot,because you have no idea what
you're talking about.
I don't like Rey.

Speaker 3 (01:08:07):
I don't like the prequels.

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
I think the sequels are.
They're not as bad as theprequels, but they're up there.

Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
I mean Tommy, if I may hot take.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
Rey in episode eight is better than Luke in episode 4
.
Oh sorry, I meant 7, 7.
Sorry, I take that back.
Melvin, I'm really sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
Melvin doesn't care.
Melvin doesn't care.
I mean, really, if we're goingto go that route, ahsoka, you
want a hot take?
Ahsoka?
I'll just say ahsoka, you wanta hot take?
Ahsoka is the best character instar wars and in current star
wars I would go with that.
No, not even current of anycharacter.
If you're talking about likelayers and dimensions, ahsoka
has been through it more thananybody else has.

(01:09:03):
I don't care what anybody says.
Like you want to talk aboutanakin's redemption arc.
In my opinion, fuck anakinskywalker, fuck darth vader,
baby killer, you don't.
You don't redeem yourself fromkilling, murdering children.
It doesn't happen.
So no, you know, you were awhiny little bitch.
You lashed out, you threw atemper tantrum, you killed a

(01:09:26):
bunch of kids because you'reafraid that your wife is going
to die.
Okay, fine, but I, I couldjustify everything, I could
justify the turn to the darkside up to that point, but when
you start murdering innocentchildren, I'm done with you.
I could even let the tuscans goa little bit, but even that
it's like come on, pad me,that's red flags, like that's

(01:09:46):
red flags all day.
But so no, his, his redemptionarc is is garbage.
You know it's just.
You know it's, it's just theprivilege of the skywalker
family.
So no, I'm not, I'm not dealingwith that.
So so I'll I'll agree.
I can't agree that ray is abetter character than luke.
I feel like they're both justthe meh type of hero journey.

Speaker 3 (01:10:09):
I agree, I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
I can see your argument for.

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
Ahsoka and.
I'm not even done with herstory yet.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
You haven't seen it yet.

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
I think she's had more content to be covered in.
I'm sort of looking forward toseeing what they do with this
new Jedi Order so-called moviewith Ray, where I'd like to see
some progression from just theconflict about her past.
There's room to grow and I willtrade in all my Disney shill

(01:10:37):
money if we can get Finn aproper story.

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
I'm just I'm not excited about it.
I'm not excited about anything.
I'm having a meltdown, melvin.
You've never seen one of'mhaving a meltdown, melvin,
you've never.
You've never seen one of mystar wars.
Meltdowns, brother, you have noidea.

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
We don't have time for that melvin.

Speaker 2 (01:10:54):
Melvin missed my my karen travis reference that
that's the closest to a meltdownI get.

Speaker 1 (01:10:59):
So yeah, go frag yourself, but it's okay, melvin,
melvin, if, if you're okay withit, crash doesn't like Karen
Travis, and I mean he.
You know he shits on Travis andI read the books.

Speaker 3 (01:11:11):
Louis doesn't know who, who that person is.

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
Karen Travis wrote the, the, the, the, the oh my
God, the Republic commando.
It's basically everything thatwe know about Mandalorians that
we're seeing now in the TV shows.
It's being pulled from that.
So, Karen Travis, she had alanguage made Mandoa, like all
the, all the customs andtraditions.

Speaker 3 (01:11:35):
She's an.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
EU writer.
Yeah, and people shit on herlike Crash.
I consider her the mother ofMandalore.

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
She's the mother of Mandalore.
I will give her credit for that, but I honestly I keep my with
receipts.
By the way, I got the passagefrom her star wars in trial
essay yeah he literallycontacted ryan kaufman who was
coordinating when she wasstarting the book series.
Right, he had to explain that,what the clone army was about.
And she says, like, okay, letme get this clear.

(01:12:04):
Somebody created a secret clonearmy.
Then they maneuvered the jediinto using them to fight the
separatists.
And he's like and ryan goes,that's right.
So my journalistic brain startsworking and she really just
kind of cooks up this wholeexcuse for, like, the jedi using
the clones as cannon fodder Ithink she referred to like a
slave army and the worst part,we've seen this in Clone Wars.

(01:12:25):
Filoni completely contradictsthat with the way Yoda and
Obi-Wan and just the way a trueJedi should be.
They see the individuality ofthese guys, just like we talked
about tonight with the Umbaraarc and the clones.
These guys are individuals,they have personalities, they
have soul, they have, you know,they command respect.

(01:12:47):
So she writes great mando.
She wrote the.
You know it creates a greatsubculture for the, the spot of
boba fett what's your point?
I'm getting there, but theproblem is it was all centered
around justifying the cloneskilling the jedi later it's okay
to kill a jedi if they treatyou like shit wait, hold on one

(01:13:10):
second.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
I don't mean to interrupt.
We've got, yeah, yeah,something going on here.
So so tony says poor melvinapparently still needs more
attention.
Wasn't loved enough as a child,I guess go cry.
Here's some blue milk.
And then melvin melvin replieswith your asshole stinks.
I feel okay, that's whatever.

(01:13:31):
He's like 10.
Melvin is like 10 or 11.

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
I kind of recognize the avatar from Twitter, which
is why I got the hell offTwitter, because it was just
trolls like this who just wastemy time and my patience with
Star Wars.
It wasn't worth engaging.

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
But crash, I cannot.
I cannot have you bad mouthingkaren travis, I cannot have you
doing it, I can't no I can't, Ican't listen to it all right,
what's your favorite?

Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
karen travis book go, you can only have one I can
only have one desert island hardcontent, hard contact.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
The first one hard contact, hard contact I only
made it through the first one.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
I couldn't stomach it after that, oh jesus, although,
although order 66 is reallyreally good too, well, and
that's my point it's setting upthe clones and the and the the
clones.

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
Was it just because you needed to justify murdering
children later on, when they goin the temple, like the Jedi,
treat us like garbage.
So it's okay that we slaughterchildren in a school.
Is that the point?
Was that the point of Order 66?
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
I'm not talking about Order 66.
I'm talking about the bookOrder 66.
So am.

Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
I.
I feel like that whole serieswas just sort of justifying the
clones betraying the Jedi.

Speaker 1 (01:14:53):
Well, I think a lot of times you'll have, and we saw
this a lot in the Acolyte.
So if I mean, honestly, ifMelvin's going to get triggered
about anything, I know Melvin'sgoing to get triggered by us
talking about the Acolyte.
So that is the trigger warning.
But we'll wrap up because we'realready 15 minutes over.
But the one thing like a lot ofwriters will do that, because

(01:15:14):
we've been, we've been facedwith the jedi like for fucking
50 years right, you know 1977,the jedi have been it.
I mean the jedi and politics,that's what's synonymous with
star wars.
You can't have one without theother.
I mean that is the skywalkerstory, that is star wars.

(01:15:36):
So I think a lot of authors andwriters, they will take any
opportunity that they can todifferentiate themselves,
because everybody wants to telltheir own story.
Obviously they just want toplay in the star wars sandbox.
So how do they do that?
What's the best way to do that?
We're going to separateourselves from the jedi and the
best way to separate yourselffrom the jedi is to make them

(01:15:56):
look like assholes, you know,and to look like the flawed cult
that they actually were.
But like the acolyte did that alot.

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
That was one of the major complaints about the
acolyte and I think they didthat better than karen travis's
books did, where they show thecorruption with of the jedi did
a great.
Yeah, it was a great look he'swriting stuff down.

Speaker 3 (01:16:20):
No, I'm looking for the book.
I don't have the book.
I never said no, all I got.

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
She was manipulating the politics of the Jedi to
cover up this crime, which is ashady thing to do.
But for a rank-and-file Jedi,they're just trying to be good
knights.
They're trying to do their job.

Speaker 3 (01:16:39):
You're not wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
And I'm not wrong for that.
But her corruption of thecover-up, I feel, was better
than the Jedi were expressed.
I don't remember the Jedi thatwas assigned to Omega Squad in
the book, but she was just aterrible flat character.

Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
I think it was a teen yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
And I even quit my alphabet squadron Because it's
getting to the point wherecertain books again, like you
said, to create adifferentiation, like I'm
reading this New RepublicStarfighter Squadron book and
the entire squadron split up andhate each other.
Right now I'm like what's thepoint of this book?

Speaker 1 (01:17:20):
So now everyone that's turned off from reading
the Republic Commando booksthanks to Crash let me be the
voice of reason here.
If you are a fan of anythingeven remotely related to
Mandalorians or Mandalorianculture, read the books.
It's worth it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
Oh, read them.

Speaker 1 (01:17:43):
I think that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:17:44):
Then just say that I don't think I'm reading them.
I think it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:47):
say that I'm reading on the whole thing here.

Speaker 1 (01:17:50):
Travis Karen gave us Melvin, are you still here Now?
I'm melting the fuck down, NowI am triggered.
Now you're fucking with mymandos and I cannot have it.
I can't have it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
Karen crawled so Dave Filoni can run.
I think that's the point.
Okay, books that dave has takenparts of and has just expanded
on, and you will see that laterin the show I'm adding more
buttons to my my I've only gotthis, I've just got the trombone
to say I don't have anythingelse.

Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
So, like everything else in star wars, you don't
have to love it.
I know you don't.
You take, it's like a, it'slike going to like a chinese
buffet.
You take what you can and whatyou want and then you leave the
rest.
Right, they talk about.
If you've ever watched bigtrouble in little china I think
uh talked about that you knowit's like we take what we want

(01:18:41):
and leave the rest.
What?
What is that about?
So now we need to do a wholeshow just on Big Trouble in
Little China, one of thegreatest non-star wars you want
to trigger somebody.

Speaker 3 (01:18:50):
trigger Melvin when I say Big Trouble in Little China
is overrated.

Speaker 2 (01:18:54):
I'll go with that yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
Tony, the crash is living the motto even when we
don't like it, we love it.
There you go, tony.
Okay, exactly, but here's thething.
But there you go, tony.
Okay, that's very true, exactly, but here's the thing.
Take what you like from StarWars, because there's more than
enough of it.
There's more than enough ofthis galaxy for us to play in.
There's so much more so, evenif there are certain aspects of
Karen Travis's writings that youdon't like and I agree, I don't

(01:19:21):
like all of it either I don'tlike all of it either but she
gave us this amazing look intoMandalorian culture where,
previously, all we had werelittle armor and it was never
and even George was super coyabout it.
Well, I never said he was aMandalorian, I just said he had

(01:19:43):
Mandalorian armor.
I said, fucking, come on,george, come on.
Never said he was a mandalorian, I just said he had mandalorian
armor.
I was like, fucking, come on,george, come on.
So you know so.
But now, with karen, we got alanguage, we got traditions, we
got lore, we got history, youknow, we got to look.
We got a really good look intothe mindset of clone troopers
too, you know.

(01:20:03):
And, louis, it's a good read.
I know you don't read, but getthe audio book.

Speaker 3 (01:20:08):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:20:09):
I don't.
I know I don't either, like I,I wish I would have gotten audio
book stuff.
I mean, I got like these reallycool star Wars books.
I don't know if I'll ever readthem, but if I can find them on.
Anyway, find what you like inStar Wars and then just pretend
like the rest of it doesn'texist.
That's how I do with theprequels and the sequels, you

(01:20:29):
know, but we were going to haveto finish watching them and I'm
going to, I'm going to smile andI'm going to take it, just like
I'm sure Melvin does at homewith his stepbrother.
So where's that and with that,when?

(01:20:51):
With that and the show?
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So if you do happen to be alittle Swarzy Curious, and
Louie's wearing that same bustedass sticker.

Speaker 3 (01:21:33):
Look, I have a hoodie on.

Speaker 1 (01:21:35):
Is it the Circle of Nerds?
Hoodie?
Yeah, it's a Circle of Nerds,hoodie, it's a Circle of Nerds,
hoodie.
No new Star Wars, safe Spacenerd.
Jay, you know what?
You can still get this one onour shop too.
Circle of nerds, no, no new.
No new, yeah, but no new, uh,no new star wars, safe space
nerd jay.

Speaker 3 (01:21:48):
But you know what?
You can still get this one onour shop too yes, you can.

Speaker 1 (01:21:51):
So head on over to circle of nerdscom, slash merch
and pick up your very own circleof nerds and or star wars safe
space apparel and, uh, make yourfriends jealous and your uh,
your enemies even more angry,like Melvin.
Melvin, seriously, if you'restill around, I keep seeing
someone pop in and out.
I don't know if it's Melvin,but Melvin, if you watch this

(01:22:14):
later, seriously, send me youraddress and I will personally
pay for some of our merch andsend it your way.
I'll send you a whole carepackage.
I'll get you a hoodie, a coupleshirts, whatever you want, just
so I can see if you wear it and, uh, maybe trigger you even
more, but hopefully not.
Hopefully we can change yourmind, because we're not shills,

(01:22:34):
we just we like what we like andwe don't like what we don't
like.
So I mean, that's just humannature.
So, um, I will leave you.
I will leave you with this,though I saw, I saw this quote
earlier and I absolutely love itand I was going to put it up on
our social media, but sinceI've got all of your attention
here and I know everyone is just, uh, I've got like hundreds of

(01:22:58):
thousands of listeners listeningto us right now, maybe I, if I
can find it here right here wego.
So this goes out to all StarWars fans and the haters, and
whatever else, whatever otherfranchise you're into or you're
not into, whenever you decidethat you want to shit on
something, I found this and Iwant to put this all over the

(01:23:18):
place.
The next time you see someoneenjoying something that isn't
hurting anyone that's not yourcup of tea instead of saying
something negative, trainyourself to think to yourself
I'm glad they're happy and carryon with your life.
That's it.
That is it.
You won't be annoyed, you won'tget triggered.
Have an opinion.

(01:23:39):
By all means.
Please say that you don't likesomething, but don't come into
somebody else's world and callthem names because they like
something that you don't justlike.
Melvin did here.
He's a perfect example of that.
Melvin could have just spentthe rest of his life not even
acknowledging our existence.
He could have said you knowwhat these guys are loves.
They love star wars.

(01:24:00):
They're up mickey mouse's ass.
Whatever.
All right if they're having fun, who cares?
That's what you do.
You just you know what.
If someone else is having fun,who cares?
That's what you do.
You just you know what.
If someone else is having funenjoying something that you
don't enjoy, just shut the fuckup and move on.
You don't need to shit on thatperson because what's the point?
It doesn't serve any money.
So next week, homework,episodes 11, 12, 13 and 14 and,

(01:24:24):
of course, as always, do catchup on our past episodes.
Be sure to tell your friends,tell your enemies, especially
your enemies, because clearlywe've triggered at least one
person already this week, and Ilove it.

Speaker 3 (01:24:35):
I mean right now we're 50-50 with enemies and
friends.

Speaker 1 (01:24:39):
We are.

Speaker 3 (01:24:41):
Yeah, we've had a nice split.

Speaker 1 (01:24:43):
We have a nice split, I'll take it.

Speaker 3 (01:24:45):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:24:46):
So again, everyone, thank you for joining us and
tuning in this week.
We really do appreciate you.
Very special thanks to all ofour active duty military
personnel and our veterans fortheir service and sacrifice.
We 100% appreciate you foreverything that you do.
So thank you, thank you, thankyou and, as always, remember if
no one does anything nice foryou, do something nice to

(01:25:08):
yourself, and we are going tosee you all next week.
Are we going to go live nextweek?

Speaker 3 (01:25:14):
I won't be here next week, sad face.

Speaker 2 (01:25:19):
Oh, that's too bad.

Speaker 1 (01:25:20):
All right, I don't know, crash, are we going to go
live next week?

Speaker 2 (01:25:23):
This is going to hurt , but I'm not going to go live
next week.

Speaker 1 (01:25:26):
This is gonna hurt, but I'm not gonna be here next
week, so we're gonna go.
We go live next week.
Yeah, why not?
Let's go, we'll be live nextweek, why not?
Good, someone will be around.
I don't know, I've got, I'vegot pub.
You know what?

(01:25:46):
I'll get my rex helmet andit'll just be me and rex.
We'll talk about it.
But anyway, thanks, thank youeverybody for joining us and uh,
yeah, you.

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