December 7, 2024 • 65 mins
Join us for our limited-series Skelton Crew Review podcast as Tommy D and our adventurous guest, Crash, geek out over the nostalgic echoes of ET and The Goonies and question how these iconic references resonate with new generations in the era of Skeleton Crew. Our conversation is a delightful fusion of culture, travel, and a sprinkle of Star Wars magic, perfect for anyone looking to relive those Amblin vibes.
The plot thickens as we dive into the enigma of a mysterious planet within The Mandalorian’s timeline. Imagine a world untouched by time, where the whispers of the Old Republic linger, and society thrives on remnants of a forgotten era. We dissect the concept of the "Great Work," drawing connections to classic sci-fi themes and pondering if this civilization is a secluded relic of the past. With comparisons to hidden societies and buried treasures, our speculative journey touches on the fascinating dynamics of treasure-laden children and their interactions with pirates, all the while questioning the Star Wars universe's evolutionary twists.
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Ooh, that was kind of sexy.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
That was kind of nice , all right.
So welcome to Skeleton CrewReview.
This is kind of like asupplemental little podcast that
we're going to be doing inconjunction with our Star Wars
Safe Space podcast that we doevery week.
So this is just a limited runcompanion show because we're
talking about Skeleton Crew.
(00:49):
Obviously it's the big thingright now and we're all very,
very excited.
So I'm Tommy D and I am joinedby the pilot of the infamous
Parma Flyer.
It's Crash.
Hi everybody, good to be backAwesome.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Good to have you back .
Good to be back Awesome.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Good to have you back .
Good to have you back.
You've been out traveling theworld.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Yes, I have Seeing sights and making the Star Tours
run.
You know all the good stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
There you go, from the beaches of Normandy to the
beautiful castles and the Disney, the disney playground that is
paris disney right yeah, 15times in a row on star tours.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
It's got to be a record.
What?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
I've never done it, once, not one time oh man, you
gotta do it.
So all right.
So let me ask you before wedive into yeah sidetrack right
off the bat of course that's howwe roll.
If you're, if you've everwatched, you know our are, any
of our other, you know circle ofnerds podcast, you know we
never stay on track, but anyway.
So star tours in paris does itstill have the rx droid is wreck
(01:58):
still it's got c-3po as thepilot.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
It's.
It's just like the ones inAnaheim and Orlando.
Okay, it's interesting becauseif you ride it enough times,
like my sister and I did,everything's in French, but
occasionally you'll get the same.
You know the maps and the cutscenes in English.
You know they're veryaccommodating.
(02:22):
You know there's thatreputation about French people
being rude.
They're not rude.
If you're polite, respect them,they'll respect you, and I
think that plays especially atDisney, where they're trying to
be French but friendly.
It was interesting.
We were going on the tour mysister's birthday, so she has a
little button that says it's mybirthday and all the cast
(02:45):
members would start recognizingus because we're just doing
around and around and around andaround and by the fifth time
they're like oh, happy birthdayEmily.
We were part of the familyalready.
But it's the great thing aboutStar Tours is, with the
randomization and all thedifferent maps they can do, the
(03:07):
combinations of what you can get.
Each experience is worth atleast two or three times.
We did two or three runs thefirst night, seven the next.
I mean we didn't do all in oneday like a crazy person person,
but it was, you know, over liketwo, three days.
Yeah, we did about 15 timesthrough and it was just fun to
(03:28):
see all the different all rightcombinations and cut scenes and
care and they're working in allthe some of the newer shows like
andor and ahsoka, and I'm surethey'll eventually work in
skeleton crew as well.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
oh yeah for sure, for sure, that's cool.
Yeah, we've been to.
We've been to paris once wedidn't go to paris disney.
Yeah, paris was super cool.
We didn't have a problem withanybody.
We saw some touristy stuff.
We kind of went off path to seesome non-touristy stuff and it
was cool.
We didn't experience any sortof rudeness at all.
(03:56):
But, like you said, we wererespectful.
We were respectful of theculture and we weren't like
we're Americans, do what we doand do what we wanted yeah, yeah
, I made it through two weekswith.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I speak two languages english and bad tourist french.
You know the amount.
The little you can rememberfrom high school is like bonjour
, and then just sort of playdumb slash, pathetic and like,
please help me, like yourenglish is going to be better
than my french, so let's do this.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I pull out a translator all the time and I'm
like uh Vor, and they're justlike just stop.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
We appreciate the attempt, but please just stop
and that's the key the attempt,the effort, the consideration,
exactly just a little respect,alright.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
So skeleton crew, yes .
Um, I'm just going to startright off the bat and say I love
it.
I have nothing negative to sayabout it.
The nostalgia is high with this.
It felt like meeting an oldfriend again, Seeing an old
(04:59):
friend after not seeing them forlike 20 years.
It's got the Amblin vibes, it'sgot the ET vibes, the Goonie
vibes.
You know it's got the Amblinvibes, it's got the ET vibes,
the Goonie vibes.
You know it's all just rightthere and it just it sucked me
and it had me.
It just had me from the start.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I had an interesting conversation with my sister, so
we were watching the showtogether and she's younger than
I am, she's 10 years youngerthan I am and you know, leading
up to the show everybody keptsaying oh, this is Star Wars
Goonies, this is Space Goonies.
She kind of went you knowpeople my age unless their
parents showed them, force-fedthem, 80s Goonies and all those
(05:37):
movies they didn't reallyunderstand.
She knows the pop culturereferences that have carried on
Us.
80s kids like to think that ourchildhood is eternal.
But kids from the 90s and 2000sunless they were shown a movie
like Goonies they may notunderstand fully the connections
(06:02):
that are being played in theshow.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Also, if you were, you know as a kid, and I think
this is where there's, becauseonline already there's there's
people there just like oh thisis.
This is not star wars.
This is not my star wars, blahblah, blah, right, right and,
and.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Getting on twitter was the greatest thing I ever
did.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Oh, I love it between twitter and tiktok, good lord.
But I think the the big picturethat people are missing with
this is, if you didn't grow upwith the original trilogy and I
mean like grow up, grow up withit you're not going to get that
nostalgia hit.
It's not going to hit you onthat level.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Right.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
That's not to say you can't enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
You can enjoy it for different reasons, right, not to
say you can't enjoy it.
You can enjoy it for differentreasons.
Exactly the story, they'rebuilding already seems very
insane.
This might be the Goonies ofyour childhood, just like the
prequel babies.
My sister, she grew up duringthe prequel trilogy.
That's her Star Wars.
That was where her childhoodmemories were formed.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
One of the beautiful things about Star Wars is that
each generation has their StarWars.
You've got the OT generation,you've got the prequel
generation, you've got the CloneWars animated series generation
, you've got the sequelgeneration and now you've got
the skeleton crew generationlike this is the mando verse in
(07:27):
general.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
So now you know, 20 years from now, star wars fans
will be dead.
But star wars fans hope.
Well, maybe not, hopefully not,but these, the kids, are seeing
it now.
They're gonna look at all ofthe stuff that came before and
they're going to say you knowwhat?
That's cool, that's cool.
Skeleton crew was my star wars.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Right, and because, just like we all grew up emulate
, it wanted to be a Luke or ahunt.
I loved that sequence at thebeginning.
Where the kids are, you knowthey show up at the bus stop and
the first thing they do is youknow they show up to the bus
stop and the first thing they dois, you know, break into a
lightsaber fight.
Who didn't do that?
There better be cardboard tubeson that planet, because you
(08:11):
need a good old cardboard tubelightsaber fight when you're a
kid to.
Really that's what being a StarWars fan was all about.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
And that's what, like when I say you know, watching
it for me was like, you know,running into an old friend, an
old childhood friend.
That's why because I did that Igrabbed whatever I could and we
had blasters and lightsabersand we did exactly what Wim and
(08:39):
Neil did.
We did exactly what they did.
And the writers and theproducers, they knew that it was
written by Star Wars fans, evenif the writing wasn't directly
from a Star Wars fan.
They got input from people whogrew up in that era.
(09:03):
You could just tell.
And then all of the Easter eggsthat are sprinkled, they got
input from people who grew up inthat era.
You could just tell, I mean,you just you know.
And then all of the Easter eggsthat are sprinkled throughout
we're going to touch on some ofthose, right, because there's
just so many, we can't getthrough all of them.
But so the big thing that Iwant to talk about, because it,
it, it goes between these twoepisodes.
Both were great.
(09:26):
I love between these twoepisodes.
Both were great.
I love both episodes.
Um, I love the pacing, I lovethe discovery, I loved, you know
, I love the reaction to lightspeed.
I thought that was, that washilarious um because every I
think we as fans have become sojaded to the idea of this.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
oh, hyper, faster than light travel.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Oh, it's just like you know, giving your car and
going down the street first timeout, I I'd be screaming like
well yeah, yeah, and it's funnyCause someone, someone posted on
on Tik TOK Um and they use thissound where some it was like
very tranquil and where it wasvery tranquil.
And then it went to screamingand it said Omega from the Bad
(10:06):
Batch, her first time going tolight speed and she was peaceful
and beautiful and calm andserene.
And then we've got the SkeletonCrew kids, their first time,
freaking out and I think a lotof that has to do with the fact
that they live on this isolatedplanet and that's the big topic
(10:29):
for this episode of our show.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
My questions have questions about this at Atlanta.
How do we say it?
Speaker 1 (10:38):
So it's.
It's spelled at Atten, butsometimes it sounds like they're
saying add like alpha Delta.
Yeah, I think it's alpha tango.
So I think it's at Atten, butsometimes it sounds like they're
saying add like Alpha Deltayeah, I get it, but I think it's
Alpha Tango, so I think it's atAtten.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
At Atten.
Okay, yeah, a lot of questionsAgain.
The space goonies, the piratething, you know, everybody loves
the dissect trailers for, like,oh, what's this show going to
be about?
What's this going to be about?
Remember when Ezra Bridger wasSpace Alive?
Everybody wants to make thatinstant connection to something
from the past to make it seemlike this isn't an original.
My questions have questionsabout this place where the kids
(11:10):
come from the space suburb.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
So let me pose a couple of questions to you,
because you and I probably havethe same questions and those
questions have questions.
So the big one first of all.
The big one, the big one, yeah,first of all the big one.
We know that this takes placeduring, during it's within
season one of the Mandalorian, Ibelieve.
I believe that's the time postEmpire sometime it's post Empire
(11:36):
, but it takes place around theevents of the Mandalorian,
season one or two, um.
So that's we.
We know this.
My question to you is based oncertain things that were said
and certain things that we caninfer.
When do you think that thisthey're calling it the great
(12:01):
work this planet?
When do you think this cameabout?
My thought is, it's at leastpre-Clone Wars and the reason I
say that is during the secretary, the undersecretary,
(12:24):
undersecretary Farah.
She's in the class and she makesthis comment about keeping the
Republic peaceful and strong.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
She didn't say the new Republic, not the new
Republic, not the high Republic,the Republic.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
He said the Republic.
And then when we see the kidshand over the credits they're
like, hey, where did you get oldRepublic, mint condition old
Republic credits?
But do they mean old Republicor do they mean pre-Empire
Republic?
But then the Old Republic isstill anywhere from like 25,000
(13:05):
BBY to 19 BBY.
So I mean the Old Republic is abig era.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Yeah, the money was, like they say, in many things
follow the money.
And when the kid, you know, gothis dad and again as an 80s kid
, a latchkey kid you know thatscene where his dad is just, you
know, like sliding over yourlunch money like it's no big
deal.
You know, only use this forlunch, don't go buy, you know,
baseball cards at the cornershop.
(13:33):
Or you know this is strictlyfor your food, because I'm going
to be at work late.
You know that right away it waslike a little ping in my head.
I was like, okay, that's,that's older money.
I roughly remember what RepublicDiteri credits like Qui-Gon
Jinn would have had on Tatooine.
That was no good on, becauseback then the Republic wasn't a
(13:57):
thing for them, so they wanted adifferent kind of currency.
This is like getting a pristineoriginal print $2 bill and I
love the fact that the guys inthe pirate trading post when he
flashes the money out there.
We all remember our first timewe had our own money and you
(14:20):
went to the store and you pulledyour wallet out without having
all your birthday money fromgrandma and you're pulling out
like 20s.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Is this enough?
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Yeah, like Mr Big Spender here.
Okay, is this enough?
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Right and you're buying like two candy bars and a
soda, right.
But then the way that that guyyou know the guy at the food
stall he was like what, no, no,no, we, no, we need more, we
need more.
How much could that possibly beworth?
Then he's like oh yeah, my dadgave it to me for lunch money.
(14:56):
Everyone's like what Lunchmoney that?
And then when we see the ship,when the ship takes off, it's
buried and there's trees growingon top of it.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
How long has that ship been there?
Why was it there?
Speaker 1 (15:14):
I think we'll get to that.
We're going to get to that,obviously.
But we see the skeleton pirates.
You know what's left of them.
So where do you think this like?
I'm thinking again, at leastpre-Clone Wars.
It could be much, much olderthan that.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Snips and I had this debate just tonight coming home.
We were driving home and I said, yeah, we both kind of had that
moment of like okay, the easyanswer obviously it's gotta be
pre-Empire Republic.
Yeah, it could be further backlike they.
You know, they know aboutaldani, you know you listen to
(15:52):
this and some of the otherworlds they were talking about.
You know you're like, okay, sothese worlds haven't been like
plundered by the empire.
You know this is clearlypre-empire thinking and whatever
this school has been teachinggenerations of kids on this
planet is sort of outdatedinformation.
Like you know how when we grewup we never got in history class
(16:15):
past the Civil War.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Right.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Even though the books may have gotten to World War I
or whatever, yeah, but we nevergot that far before the school
year ended.
And I'm like these, I feel likethis culture, this society is
running on outdated information,so it could be a very for lack
of a better term a gatedcommunity from an earlier time.
I would even say I don't want tosay, maybe not where we saw it
(16:44):
in the Acolyte, but somewherebetween that, like closer to
maybe the prequels than theAcolyte.
But I have a feeling this is anold society level of learning.
This is like when, on anothershow, this would be where Kirk
and the Enterprise show up andlike these people haven't you
(17:04):
know the gangster, they haven'tprogressed past the 1930s.
You know these people are stillliving in the old.
You know the high republic orthe old republic.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
So it could potentially so.
Acolyte took place 100 yearsbefore the prequels.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yes, yeah, if I remember the math right
somewhere around there yeah,something like that.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
So you're saying that it it may not.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
So the the great work may not predate the acolyte,
but may definitely fall betweenthe acolyte and the prequels yes
as a safety I don't thinkthey've even, you know, known
about, because I've heardspeculation on other YouTube
clips and stuff People talkingabout.
Are these separatists?
Well, separatists wouldn't beusing Republic daterraries.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
No, no, no.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
So it's not a Clone Wars.
The easy answer could have beenlike oh, it's a society, a
neutral society, that shieldeditself from the Clone Wars.
They'd be using separaratistmoney if they were Separatists.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
I feel like this is the Republic.
They wouldn't refer to theRepublic at all.
Right, what if it's kind oflike a Truman Show experiment?
Is it kind of like a Vault-Tecexperiment?
Is it something I don't want tosay sinister, necessarily, but
(18:31):
is somebody watching this happen?
Are they all clones?
Is it like a Noah's Arkscenario?
These people to escapesomething catastrophic.
They found this place and thenshielded themselves off from the
rest of the galaxy.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Well, remember, in the prequels they talk about how
there hadn't been a war sincethe formation of the Republic
Right.
That doesn't mean there weren'tconflicts, there could be
people.
That maybe just the Truman Showanalogy is very good in that
it's a bubbled community tomaintain a certain aesthetic, a
(19:10):
certain nostalgic way thingsshould be.
They want this utopian societyto be a utopia whatever this
barrier is about, you know to,to have a whole society grow up
where.
I love the fact that you knowagain.
They showed us all this, allthis star Wars suburbia clips in
(19:31):
the trailer, and, and, and thefirst episode basically amounted
to the um aptitude testing.
Remember when we were in schooland you know, you know, asking
a fourth grader what do you wantto do with the rest of your
life?
I don't know.
I totally understand, buteverything these kids you know.
One kid said oh, I want to be amiddle management supervisor.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
I want to be a data analyst.
But that's how they've beenraised, that's how they've been
indoctrinated.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
That's the only existence you know of.
You don't even see the stars.
How many times in Star Wars dowe see people kids, luke, even
Rey look up at the stars andthink well, what's out there for
me?
Well, if you can't see pastyour own planet, what's there to
aspire to?
Speaker 1 (20:22):
And someone online had mentioned that they were
like that's so stupid.
How do they not know what starsare?
It's not that they didn't knowwhat stars were, they had never
seen stars, because as you lookup into the night sky, all you
see is this array of red dots.
You see these red lights in thesky, and they're all perfectly
(20:45):
aligned to form this array orthis grid, and then that's all
they've seen.
They've seen those swirlingclouds, almost like an Aurora
Borealis sort of effect, andthen you see all these little
red dots in the sky.
Do the kids know what those are?
The adults clearly do, but dothe kids know what those are?
The adults clearly do, but dothe kids know what those are?
And so my question to you alsowhat do you think those are?
(21:12):
Is it a defense system?
Is it a hollow array to makethe planet look different?
It doesn't seem to be a defensenetwork, because it didn't keep
the ship in, right?
It's doing something.
What do you think it's doing?
Speaker 2 (21:26):
I think it's a defense in it, almost in a
masking sort of way, either x,you know, from the inside out or
the outside in.
Like you know, the galaxy is abig place, you know.
We, we've heard, you know,anakin talking about I want to
be the first one to see them all.
And we've seen the star map.
(21:46):
In that Luke was, you know,hiding.
You know they were trying tofind Luke.
There's a lot of dots on thatmap, not, you know.
Very few people have coveredevery square inch of the galaxy
to see every planet on that map.
I'm sure there are places thatmaybe mask their viability,
(22:10):
their appearance to maybe anoutside scan, but the reaction
of the pirates when the kidstold them where they were from.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
It's a mythological place.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
It's like four kids showing up at your CD bar and
going oh yeah, hi, I'm fromAtlantis, here's a gold bar, Can
I buy lunch?
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Right, your head would explode.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Yeah, and it's almost like a reverse.
I heard a great.
It's like a reversal of theGoonies story where the kids are
looking for the treasure.
The outside world want to findout where the kids are from.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Yeah, the kids came from the treasure.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
The kids came from the treasure and, like the
pirates that we saw at thebeginning which again we'll get
into Easter eggs and stuff,there was a lot of interesting
visual references there, but Ilove the dark night moment of
the lone Republic.
Credit on the floor is sort ofan F, you Like, to anyone who's
trying to steal what what youthought was on this ship here.
(23:08):
Here here, have a dollar andshut up.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Right Shut up, so that I feel like that was
probably left behind on purpose.
Yeah, that loan credit.
So with at, at, and they werevery careful to not show once
the kids get past the barrier.
We didn't see, we didn't seethem leaving the planet.
Normally we see that in StarWars.
We always see a shot of theships leaving the planet.
(23:30):
Right.
We don't see it this time.
And then, when they asked SM-33to send us back, any droid would
be able to access thosecoordinates to go back to where
they just came from.
Yeah, but they're not in hismemory banks.
He was searching and searchingand searching.
They've been deleted.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
You almost wonder if his ship got there by accident
or like a crash.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
The pirates finally found it and they killed each
other trying to argue Maybethose pirates somehow integrated
to the culture there.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Yeah, whoever the, the, the dead skeletons were of?
Yeah, somebody.
Yeah, there's a lot ofquestions.
Obviously it's the first, yeah,first two episodes.
There's a lot of questionsabout where that ship came from.
Who are the people?
Yeah, was it intentionallylanded crash, whatever you want
to call it on the planet, or youknow?
Was it intentionally landedcrash, whatever you want to call
it on the planet, or you know?
And then maybe the it just sortof got buried over time, like
(24:32):
uh, yeah, you know, like thepirate ship on goonies, where
it's like, okay, it was in thiscove, and then the, the, you
know it slowly got buried in,you know, you know, until the
kids let it out, like that was aI'm assuming, yeah, the goon,
I'm assuming it's a free, openport.
When they put the pirate shipin there, much like I think the
(24:54):
starship wasn't thereintentionally or was it just
accidentally there and then leftto be covered up.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
It's a caper, it's a mystery and I love it.
We're going to learn so much.
It's like you want to say Iknow what's going to happen, I
already know and this, and thatI think we've sussed out who Jod
is.
I think that's.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
First shot as soon as he had that Cobra Commander
mask.
As soon as he spoke, my sisterand I looked at each other and
we're like that's.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Jude.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Law and it's going to be funny watching how he
maintains his persona this lot.
The things he said to the kidscan have a double meaning, where
it's like there's what I saidand there's what I meant and
we're going to find out how he'sgoing to juggle that with them.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Because it's clear he's just going to use them to
get to the treasure planet Right, the eternal treasure.
So again, I'm really curious tofind out about what the great
work is.
I do want to find out if it'slike a Vault-Tec sort of thing
or if it's a Noah's Ark sort ofthing, or how it's like a
Vault-Tec sort of thing whereyou know, or it's a Noah's Ark
sort of thing or you know howit's going to work.
But another thing I foundreally interesting was when they
(26:14):
go to Port Borgo and they'relike look aliens.
And my wife and I were talkingabout this and it's like, well,
they have aliens on their planet.
It's like, but do they?
It's like, well, they havealiens on their planet.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
It's like but do they like these, like the rhodians?
And we see, uh, what else doyou see?
Speaker 1 (26:34):
there's like thorium, or walk on the dog right and
whatever neil is yeah, neil'sspecies has not, has not been
revealed yet.
Right um, he is not an ortolan,right, he is not.
He's not like Max Rebo.
That is two completelydifferent species.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
And at first I was mad about that because Disney
Star Wars.
One of my few complaints aboutDisney Star Wars is they have a
tendency to shy away from theclassic Star Wars creatures,
species other than humans,because production designers, I
think, like to like create theirown new makeup or aesthetics
and you know, just saying, giveme like 20 rodians and a couple
(27:13):
mon cow like.
Especially in the sequeltrilogy they were really like
they would create all these newspecies because it looks cool on
a concept drawing.
When they came out with neiland and the director said that
he's not the same species as MaxRebo, I was like fine, is this
like?
Yeah, I'm no space Star WarsDarwin.
(27:34):
Is this like a Vulcans versusRomulans thing where they're
like maybe like a splinter of aspecies?
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Yeah, you know, maybe that's what it is.
So, yeah, we come from the samesystem but they have different
planets.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Maybe they're part of the time.
Yeah, maybe they've evolveddifferently.
So, yeah, and the more you see,like max revo and book of boba
fett, like okay, I get, the eyesare less expressive than neil's
.
He's got that cute littlehaircut, you know, yeah, and I'm
sure part of the mystery isgoing to be well, why haven't we
seen Neil's people before?
Maybe this is a Noah's Arkthing where, like, maybe his
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species was relocated.
There's obviously an Ithorian,the lady walking the dog.
I didn't spot anybody elseuntil we got to the pirate
station.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
You know the pirates got all kinds of there was an
authorian kid in their classbecause he said something and
then another kid was like no, Iwant to be a data analyst or
whatever In the undersecretary'shouse when Fern goes home, you
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see that mural on the wall.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
I paused on that like five yeah I had to get a
close-up of that.
I was like, when I first saw it, you know my first, you know I
was like, okay, that's nice.
And then the second, that beerwas like what's that?
Speaker 1 (28:58):
right.
So we see an on there and wesee um an older version of
Neal's species with tusks, whichI thought was pretty
interesting.
We just don't know about Neal'sspecies.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
This is going to be the Baby Yoda thing all over
again, Until they give us a nameof the species the Neals, the
adult Neals, the adult Neals.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
There's so many questions, but, um, I really I'm
really thinking that, you know,they don't consider like neil
and the other thorians.
And there were a lot ofrhodians.
I noticed there were a lot ofrhodians in his class.
They don't consider them aliensbecause they've been a part of
their culture for potentiallycenturies.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Right, and that's why I think it goes back farther
than we think.
Yeah, because this might be aNoah's Ark thing where literally
it's just a handful of species,maybe some kind of cataclysm,
maybe just whatever.
Maybe it is an Atlantis thingwhere the society decided they
wanted to cut themselves offfrom the galaxy at large and
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just focus on whatever thisgreat work of theirs is.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Right, whatever it is , we'll have to wait and see.
I'm very excited.
One more question and thenwe'll start getting into
Easterter eggs here.
Um, okay, so john, he, he kindof used the force, or did he use
the force to get the keys,because it looked really janky,
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as the keys were like floatingalong.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
But my thing is like, if he was able to do that prior
, why hadn't he done it before?
Unless he was just looking forsome rubes to help him get out?
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Snips had a great answer because we had that same
question and her answer to thatwas and I'm tending to believe
this he probably could haveescaped fairly easy.
Whether he's force sensitive orit was a optical trick, maybe
he's got a magnet, who knows?
You know, it could be anythinglike that.
Yeah, like that uh guy onkenobi that was impersonating a
(31:19):
jedi there.
Yeah, but I think the reason,yeah, it's like's like DJ in the
Last Jedi.
He could have gotten out of theprison cell anytime he wanted.
But when the kids show up andthey're talking about having a
ship now, he's got a way out.
If he is the captain that wasmutinied and thrown in the cell,
(31:42):
sure I could bust out of thecell, but where am I going to go
?
Speaker 1 (31:45):
So he's just looking for that, I need a ride.
He's looking for for that, Ineed a ride.
He's looking for his moment.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Right, they've got a ship, they're allegedly from
this mythical treasure planetand he's just like yes, Because
if he finds the treasure hemight be thinking now, I can get
back in with my crew andreclaim where I belong.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Right and get his ship back and his crew back from
Brutus.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Right.
Isn't that a great?
Isn't that guy?
Just From a design standpoint,isn't that just a great callback
?
I've seen people referencinghim to that one guy from the
cantina.
That was like a wolf.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
That's exactly what he is.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Great callback.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Yeah, and we see a lot of those and we'll get to
that with the Easter eggs.
But yeah, that is exactly whathe is.
But I also like he's got someBlackbeard vibes, because he's
got all of those pistols on hishead.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Again, the pirates theming of this show is
fantastic.
Whoever designing this guy'scostume, I love there's a mashup
between Star Wars and Piratesof the Caribbean.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
That's just working A hundred percent.
I love the captain's cabin.
I like the hats, the big hatsthat were in there.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Even the guy at the beginning when he's got that I
call the captain's cabin.
I like the hats, the big hatsthat were in there, and even the
guy when he was at thebeginning.
When he's got that I call itthe Cobra Commander shield.
Did you notice?
The top of it looks like one ofthose triangle hats yes.
And it's like a one-piece,almost like Zori's helmet from
Rise of Skywalker.
You know that very tight faceshield Again the Cobra Commander
thing.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
But as soon as I saw the top of it, that's a pirate
hat mask and then like, evenlike, at the uh, like during the
closing credits, the musicchanges a couple of times um,
but like the last change um ofthe uh, the closing credit music
, it's very much a pirate shantysound.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
They're just, they're leaning into the pirate thing
and I, I absolutely love it.
All right, so let's do, let'sdo a few Easter eggs.
There were a lot, so a coupleof that stood out to me.
First was FM 33.
Throwback Smee to Peter Pan,captain Hook's little first mate
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.
I thought that was awesome.
That was a nice throwback.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Very Disney.
Also very Jude Law-esque,because he played Captain Hook
in a previous movie.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Yes, he did Not an Easter egg necessarily, just an
observation Fern wearing herjacket inside out so she could
be the cool kid with all herpasses on it yeah.
Well, I love that and somethingthat Sherry had pointed out to
me that I missed the first time.
If you look at, if you go backand look at Neil, you see it a
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few times, but he has a deviceon his belt.
I didn't see anybody else witha device like that on their
belts.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Is he asthmatic?
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
That would definitely be in line with him, but we
haven't seen him use it.
But Sherry thought what if itwas a translator?
Maybe Neil's not actuallyspeaking basic.
We hear him as speaking basic,because we speak basic, but
maybe that's on his belt, that'sa translator.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Almost like it's a very common sci-fi trope.
The universal translator, whereall the aliens speak perfect
basic or English for us, so thatwe don't have to worry about
subtitles.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Subtitles all day, yeah, but like in the
Mandalorian no Book of Boba.
In the Book of Boba Fett we seethe mayor of Mos Espa, the
Ithorian.
He's got a translator apparatus.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Right.
He's speaking Ithorian andthere's a little delay from when
the and then the basic kicks inonce.
It's like the Alexa.
Here's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
I'm wondering is that on Neil's belt?
Is that a translator?
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
For a multi-species society that tracks, and I
wouldn't be surprised if that isa translator.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Well, I'm looking forward, or you know what?
I also wouldn't be surprised ifthe writers and the showrunners
put things in there like thatjust to get us talking.
Like, to them, it's nothing,it's just a clip-on.
It's just.
You know what they went out?
They got a shaver.
They put some greeblies on it,stuck it to neil's belt.
(36:31):
It has no use, but we're gonnaobsess over it.
As star wars fans, we're goingto obsess about this tiny little
greebly on his belt.
What is it?
Does he have galactic asthma?
Is it a universal translator?
What's on Neil's belt?
We must know.
I don't know.
A couple other things that wereagain.
(36:53):
This is probably nothing.
It's just my weird brain.
So when they're inside the shipand KB hits that power unit to
try to get the ship startedagain, to try to get the ship
started again, she hits it in away that was very similar to the
way that Han hits the, the backpanel on the, the, the Falcon.
So she hit it, the Fonzie punch.
(37:15):
Yes, she hits it, it starts up,it dies down.
She hits it again and then itgoes just like when Han hits the
hits the Falcon.
Well, yeah, the Fonzie punch.
So I thought that was really,really cool.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Oh yeah, and a very.
Again, it's an 80s kid.
She gives off that tech kidvibe 100%.
There's the archetypes we got.
The cool girl who comes fromthe higher class family.
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She's kind of hiding her statusin this society by playing the
bad girl persona when she's outand about, hangs out with kids
who race bikes and all this jazz.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
The kid that she was racing bikes with the name
sounded familiar to me.
Let me see if I can find it.
So the bully's name is BongeFalfa and it's named after Bob
(38:25):
Falfa.
It's Harrison Ford, bob Falfait's Harrison Ford's character
in American Graffiti.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Oh, that's classic, I love it.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
So that's one of those things I was like why does
that sound familiar?
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Another movie where, again, I know of it, I've
watched it, but I mean, it's notone of those movies where even
people are religiously let's gowatch American Graffiti out of
the blue blue, like you got tobe in the mood for it and
there's so many great callbacksand characters from classic
pirate hot rod teenage.
(38:58):
You know even there wereteenage, teenage adventure
movies before the 1980s.
But I mean, oh, way before andand and and, to bring back some
of that, like you know, it's,it's like an update.
It's updating, it's taking itthe themes of those movies and
translating it into a new genrelike star wars, to tell the same
(39:19):
story of course so about youknow your kids in their in their
first exploring, you know theirfirst touch of the wider world.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
Yeah, so another one.
I know that this one probablyjumped out at you, but the
hollow circus.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Oh, my God, yes, I love how modern Star Wars
writers again people who realizethe people who work on Star
Wars now grew up on Star Warswriters again.
A lot of the people haverealized the people who work on
Star Wars now grew up on StarWars, like we've been saying.
So they're going to take evensomething like the holiday
special that George I'm surecringes every time he brings it
(40:00):
up to them, but they stillprobably can, because we loved
it, we saw it as kids and youpull from it.
I just saw a promo, an oldYouTube video, for the old
droids cartoon.
I can't get that song Travelagain, those songs as goofy as
it is out of my head.
Yeah, because it's a holographicthing and to bring in something
(40:22):
like that holographic circusthing from a throwaway holiday
special that is a fan favorite,if not a favorite of the creator
.
It's not like something theyact.
Oh, let's put out the Star Warsholiday special on Blu-ray
every year.
But the fans remember it, thefans can call back to it, and
(40:44):
now that the fans are grown upand working in Star Wars,
they're bringing in some oftheir childhood memories.
They're grabbing from it.
They're grabbing from all of it.
The fans can call back to it,and now that the fans are grown
up and working in Star Wars,they're bringing in some of
their childhood memories.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
They're grabbing from it.
They're grabbing from all of it.
The Ferryman he was from theEwoks Battle of Endor, he was
from the Teak Teak yeah.
So again, that's not an alienthat we've seen since the Ewoks
movies, as far as I can remember.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
I don't remember seeing no, I think again, it was
one of those things that theycan.
You know, fans remember it fromtheir childhood and I even
heard Phil Tippett.
They brought him out ofretirement just to do the
puppeteering, because that wasan actual puppet, yeah.
(41:31):
And I'll admit it was kind oflike the train conductor on Book
of Boba Fett, where they made areal big deal about it being a
practical effect and it kind oflooked like a practical effect
but it was okay.
Yeah, sure you could have doneit in CG.
It would have looked like apractical effect, but you were.
It was okay.
Yeah, sure you could have donein CG.
It would have looked more livelike it out of it, but it's okay
(41:52):
to do it again.
It's like the circus performer,it's like, oh, yeah, it's okay
to do a little callback to ourchildhood once in a while,
because guess what Star Wars isfor kids versus, and I really do
honestly think that this showbelongs to the kids.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
We love it, I love it , you love it, we enjoy it
because it is that old friend,but it belongs to the kids.
I'm not saying that it wasspecifically made just for
children.
Clearly it wasn't, otherwise itwouldn't have all these Easter
eggs.
The writers threw things in forus to enjoy, with this
(42:37):
alongside this next generation,so we can enjoy it together, and
that is like that's why thisisn't for me anyway, one of my
favorite Star Wars propertiesand we're two episodes in.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Right, and there's so much, yeah, and there's so much
room to explore this part.
It's not tied into theSkywalker saga.
We're not going to see a babyRey walking around Again.
Fans like this we like to upsetwho can make a cameo?
(43:10):
Honestly, I hope there aren'tany real cameos.
I have a couple in my mind thatcould show up and I'm like it
would work and I can see whereit could sort of tie in the
whole Mandoverse time eratogether.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
So Vayne shows up yeah, so we see him and honestly
I'm fine with that becausethat's a good tie-in to the
Mandoverse.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
He was such a throwaway character on Mandover
in the pirate storyline that Ikind of like the fact that we're
going to see maybe more ofwhere he belongs.
This is his part of the galaxy.
He likes to slither aroundEvery once in a while.
You need a nice little, sleazylittle bad guy in a story.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
He's almost likable, almost he's not as likable as
Hondo.
I kind of want Hondo to show up.
I'm with you.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
I'm kind of want hondo to show up.
I kind of I'm with you, I'mkind of again there's ones like
I could fit a man, I could.
You know, I saw those x-wingsin one of the trailers and I'm
like, oh, are we gonna get up?
Are we gonna get a paul carsonsighting, are we?
Speaker 1 (44:21):
probably, probably.
So what are some?
There's more, there's so many.
We could do a whole show juston easter eggs, right?
What are some that jumped outto you that you saw?
Speaker 2 (44:29):
There was one.
I didn't catch it right awaybecause it was so faint and I'm
in a big room watching it on TV.
When I put the headphones on, Ikind of lose it.
In the prison cells, when thekids first show up, you hear
this whistling.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
Oh, like in Pirates of the.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Caribbean and I watched another video talk about
.
There's a you could hear it upclose.
They they zeroed in on it.
It's the whistling from thepirates of the caribbean right.
There's all sorts of littlethings like that where, like you
know, callbacks to a non starwars attraction, but it's part
of the family.
It's's Disney.
(45:07):
I love that this show can meshthose two things together and
it's not weird.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
It's not overt, it's not in your face.
It's so subtle.
I missed it the first time.
I missed the whistling thefirst time, but when I went back
and I watched.
I heard it again.
When the ship starts up for thefirst time, you hear the old
school dial-up modem again.
Um, when the ship starts up forthe first time, you hear the
old school dial-up modem soundas the ship is booting up.
You hear that old like aoldial-up.
(45:37):
You know modem internet soundeffect.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
It was so cool somebody else picked up, uh,
darth vader's targeting computerfrom the tie fighter chase well
, was that in there?
Speaker 1 (45:49):
The sound was there.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Obviously not the screen.
Star Wars fans are getting toogood for their own good at
picking out little Easter eggdetails.
I'm sure the sound mixer guysare like.
This is all I got to work with.
Matt Wood's only got so manytoys, Come on.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
They have to appreciate it when we find these
things.
Like you said, Matt Wood isalso a huge Star Wars fan.
Wasn't he the voice of Grievous?
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
Grievous.
He had a bunch of voices.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
And the Malibu.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
Yeah, and he's like the lead sound designer, right,
or something like that.
So I feel like they do putstuff like that in there on
purpose for us to find, and whenwe do find them, that's got to
be fun for them oh yeah, andlittle things like Millennium
Falcon alone.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
Even watching Solo, there were so many and it was
obviously the same ship.
But there's just certain soundsthat are synonymous with the
Falcon and Star Wars tech.
I could try to imitate it, butit would sound terrible.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
There's just like the engine failing.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
Yeah.
There's certain sounds that you, Because when you hear them on
other shows I love Toy Story 2,I think, when Buzz Lightyear's
watching the video game and hewaves his hand through the
hologram of the battery and itmakes a lightsaber whoosh, and
I'm just like, oh you, Ben Burtt, Aren't you just a crazy?
Speaker 1 (47:23):
And they do it because that's how they
celebrate their love of thefandom, and it's so cool.
So what are some other Eastereggs that jumped out at you that
you noticed?
Speaker 2 (47:34):
Mostly, again, most of the ones I picked up on was
the pirates theming.
I think in that initial attackone of the guys it wasn't I mean
they didn't even bother withthe stereotypical blaster sound,
it sounded like a flint handpistol, yeah, things like that.
Or, during the attack, therappellers.
(47:58):
I didn't get a good look atthem, but the spacesuits they
were wearing, I swear look likethe ones that you see Obi-Wan
and Ezra Bridger wearing thevery generic open space dome
helmet kind of thing, and I wantto watch it again just to kind
of slow-mo that a little bit andbe like did they really make a
(48:18):
live-action space suit?
I love that we're starting toget between the animated world
and the real-world stuff, stuff,a sharing of designs and
constantly feloni and favra wereboth involved in this.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
So of course dave is going to pull stuff from the
clone wars and he can't not.
He can't bring stuff over fromthe clone wars like we're gonna
get it.
Like I would, I would not besurprised if we saw I mean, to
be honest, I wouldn't besurprised if we saw Rex kicking
around, but he's probably deadat this point.
But you know there'll besomething else.
(48:59):
There'll be some other CloneWars references in there.
We've got to keep an eye outfor them.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
Yeah, and it was like again for me this first couple
episodes I wanted to get a feelfor the aesthetic of this.
You know, at Anna, planet andthe pirates, yeah, I love.
You know we've all you knowwe've done.
You know, space Mos EisleyCantina, where it was like I
(49:27):
liked how there was, you knowthe kids were running around.
Side of the Cantina where itwas like I liked how the kids
were running around and the twogirls show up with the one place
that looked obviously like anightclub, shall we say, for
adults.
I like how the girls immediatelyhad the okay, let's not go in
there For kids who've never seenthe big wide world.
(49:48):
The Spidey sense went off andwent.
That's not go in there, likethat's, you know, again for kids
who've never seen the big wideworld.
You know, the spidey sense wentoff and went.
That's not safe.
Yeah, and and also when all theboys are playing with the
pirate doodads and hats of thegym.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
I got a gun because we're going to a strange town
well, and also there was, um, oh, I cannot remember her name,
but the lady with the sixbreasts that was dancing in
Jabba's palace.
She was outside of this adultestablishment.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
Oh, I missed that one .
I have to watch that again.
Speaker 1 (50:22):
Yeah, so there was that other lady that went to who
I think was also the samespecies as one of the dancers
One of the dancers, yeah.
But yeah, the lady with the sixbreasts.
I can't remember her name, butI know that Jabba hired her
because she reminded him of hismother.
I remember that was in a book.
(50:43):
That's her backstory.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
Yeah, and the pirates for me again.
I've been waiting for morecallbacks to classic Star Wars
creatures and characters likespecies.
Speaker 1 (50:57):
Oh, there was a bunch .
Speaker 2 (50:58):
Yeah, and the pirates is where it's at, because they
can just take.
They need such a diverse rangeof oh yeah, they were grabbing a
lot of guys.
Speaker 1 (51:08):
There was another one , one of Gorian Shard's guys.
Oh yeah, they were grabbing.
Yeah, there was another one, um, one of gory and shards guys.
He was there, there were.
There were a couple of otherones from, uh, jabba's, I
thought I can't remember now.
Um, oh, there's another easteregg that I had in my notes.
I forgot about, um, when, um,when, whim is talking about Jedi
(51:34):
temples that can burythemselves, bury themselves the
Lothal Temple.
Speaker 2 (51:38):
You saw that, yeah.
And another interesting thing Isaw a video the Arabesh on that
little Viewmaster storybook ofhis.
The arabesh on that littleViewmaster storybook of his.
The reason I think this ispre-prequels and not a Clone
Wars style isolation in societyis that if it was a Separatist
(52:02):
thing or something, they wouldnot have fairy tales painting
the Jedi in a good light.
Speaker 1 (52:07):
Right, the Jedi would have been bad guys.
Yeah, painting the Jedi in agood light.
Speaker 2 (52:09):
Right, right, the Jedi would have been bad guys.
Yeah, and the fact that he'splaying with an action figure
homemade action figures of aJedi and a.
You know what the Sith are?
Well, you're better off thanthe Jedi Council, apparently.
Speaker 1 (52:21):
Right.
So also, if you're creatingthis utopian society, why would
you allow the knowledge of Jediand Sith to spark the
imagination of your childrenwhen you know you're just like
they're never going to achievethat because you're going to
plug them into the accountingdepartment in order to maintain
your utopia?
(52:41):
I I.
Speaker 2 (52:42):
I have a feeling that was not a thing he said dad
used to read to him, but I havea feeling that was something.
Speaker 1 (52:48):
Maybe the mother who we have not seen or heard of yet
maybe introduced into the kid'slife we haven't seen mom and we
also know that, um, we haven'tseen fern's dad.
So we don't know, maybe they'rethey're both single parents,
maybe their parents died, maybetheir parents have bigger parts
(53:10):
to play in the great work, right, we don't know yet, so we'll
have to wait and see whathappens.
Very excited about that, veryexcited for Episode 3.
So, before we wrap up,predictions for Episode 3.
What have you got?
Speaker 2 (53:30):
I'm very interested to hear Jude Law's facts.
He's got to explain to the kidswhat was I doing there?
Was I a bad pirate?
Was I a prisoner of the pirate?
How did I get eventually?
I have a feeling the kids, thedroid.
We're taking this guy on, thisvery smooth-talking guy.
(53:53):
What's his excuse going to befor how he got there and why he
needed to get out?
Speaker 1 (54:02):
All right, I don't have any predictions right now.
Speaker 2 (54:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (54:08):
I'm just like, oh my God, what's going to happen next
?
I'm really excited.
I don't know what we're goingto see and I really you know I
don't want to deep dive too muchinto it, because I want to
really be surprised.
Speaker 2 (54:22):
I think it's good, especially early on in the show.
Like you know, they always do atwo-episode premiere to make it
like an extended episode, andthey always do a two episode
premiere to make it like anextended episode, and I liked
that.
This because this show has gota lot of self world building to
take care of.
This isn't part of the greaterRepublic.
This isn't that we know.
You know these are, these arekids lost on a ship, yeah, From,
(54:44):
yeah who have no idea whatthey're getting themselves into.
Let that let that cook, let thatplay out.
Speaker 1 (54:51):
I agree.
I love it.
I'm looking forward to it.
It's such a good show.
I can't say enough about it.
It's just such a good show.
I'm so glad they made it.
Speaker 2 (55:06):
It feels weird to be happy about Star Wars, right?
I mean, I'm so glad they madeit.
It feels weird to be happyabout Star Wars, right?
No, I mean, I'm kidding.
I've loved most of what's youknow the Mandoverse and
everything has been put in thesequel.
I love new Star Wars.
I actually love new Star Warsmore, I think, than I remember,
(55:27):
because classic Star Wars, ot,star Wars is always on TV.
It's been part of my life for40 years.
This is exciting because thisis new.
I want to know what these kidsare about.
I want to know what the piratesare after.
There's so many things I wantto know that I don't have
already ingrained in my head andself-canon Tell me more.
(55:47):
I'm really looking forward tonext week.
Speaker 1 (55:50):
And I have to say I'm already disappointed that it's
only eight episodes.
Speaker 2 (55:57):
I already want more.
Speaker 1 (55:59):
I know it's only going to run for eight and I
already want more and it's justlike oh man, I'm already sad and
we're two episodes in.
I'm already sad that it's goingto end.
I'm that excited about it.
Yeah.
So you know, it's not going tobe for everyone and it doesn't
have to be for everyone.
No.
Speaker 2 (56:19):
And for those you're going to give it an honest
chance to tell its own story andnot affix your own.
Like you know how do we blameKathleen Kennedy for all the
problems in my life own.
Like you know how do we blamekathleen kennedy for all the
problems in my life.
Speaker 1 (56:32):
Just go with it, enjoy the ride.
Let's have fun with it.
Um, one thing that I thought Isaw this on tiktok someone.
Someone replied to one of ourvideos on tiktok and um, we're
having a conversation about itand the guy said that he sat
down, he watched it with his 10year old daughter and she looked
at him and smiled and gave hima thumbs up.
And my response to that is thatis the only critique I will
(56:56):
accept.
That is the only.
That is the only criticism.
That is the only review thatI'm going to accept about this
show.
You and I can talk about it andsay it's good or bad or
whatever all day.
Yeah, but that show doesn'tbelong to us, the people that
that show belongs to, whateverthey say about it.
That's what I'm listening toyou.
Speaker 2 (57:18):
You and I met, you know, towards the end of my
career with the star wars groups.
Yeah, but I used to love goingout and you know, I'd be there
in my x-wing costume or in myjedi gear and kids were coming
up to me asking where, where'sAhsoka, where's Captain Ren?
This is just after Clone Warshad started and I was
knowledgeable enough about theshow because I'm a fan of it and
(57:38):
I've watched it, just likethese kids do, and I'm totally
into what this show's about thatI could play it off and give
them an answer.
I love seeing the younger fans'reaction to this stuff.
What the 40-year-old guys intheir basement on TikTok or
Twitter or whatever or YouTubechannel of their own making
(58:01):
knock yourself out.
In fact, knock yourself out,please.
Before I do it for you, I can'twait to see the next Halloween,
or even like a sci-ficonvention.
You know people bringing theirkids dressed up like these kids.
You'll start seeing malecostumes, thank you, and
something they can relate to attheir age level.
Speaker 1 (58:25):
Yes, young girls are going to be dressing up like
Fern and KB, right, it's goingto be dressing up like fern and
kb, right, it's going to happen.
You know, you know, young,young people of color are going
to be dressing up like whim.
That is a good thing.
Speaker 2 (58:40):
That is a good thing for star wars, that is a good
thing in general.
Speaker 1 (58:43):
Yeah it is a good thing in general, because now
these children have charactersthat look like them, they have
characters they can relate to,and now george always said that
star wars was for kids.
George has always said that hehas always been willing to die
on that hill.
George created star wars forchildren for that 12 and under
(59:04):
set.
That's what star wars is for,because when he was that age,
those were the kinds of serialshe was seeing when he went to
the movies.
He was looking at Flash Gordon,he was looking at the samurai
movies.
In that age it sparkedsomething in him to create this
wonderful, beautiful, amazinggalaxy that we all get to play
(59:26):
in.
Now I'm getting goosebumps, man.
Now kids that were his age thenare getting to experience this
galaxy far, far away.
I'm actually getting choked up.
I'm getting choked up.
I'm getting goosebumps.
I'm about to start crying on myfucking show.
All right, so now Wrapping itup.
Speaker 2 (59:43):
Good show, this was fun.
Speaker 1 (59:45):
It was great fun.
Crash, thank you for joining us.
Are you going to come back onnext week?
Speaker 2 (59:48):
We're going to come back next week, absolutely yeah,
I'll see you next week and I'llbe watching the show a couple
times before we come on.
I'm eating this up.
I love what's going on rightnow.
Speaker 1 (59:57):
Well, when we're done recording this episode, I'm
going to re-watch.
The last two episodes I'm goingto watch is now two episodes in
it is I'm going to say it it ismy favorite Star Wars property.
Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
I will say wow, I do like.
You know, there's this thing,I'll try to be real quick.
When Obi-Wan Kenobi came outand immediately they started
asking you and never ask anactor oh, do you want more work?
Yes, they do.
They will always say I'm alwaysup for season two of whatever.
If this does end up being aone-off run of eight episodes,
(01:00:31):
fine, tell me a good story thatcan become the timeless classic
that we 80s kids think Gooniesis in the Star Wars universe and
I will be happy with that smallpiece of gold.
Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
No, I disagree.
No, no, no.
You want more, one more.
So I want this to turn intolike a Stranger Things scenario
where it was only supposed to bea one-off and people love
Stranger Things so much They'vegot like four seasons now or
something like that.
Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
Okay, just don't go Game of Thrones on me, where you
keep milking it until you runout of ideas and then you blow
up the pot.
Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
No, I want to see this run so far that I want to
watch these kids grow up intoadults and have their own
children that they send off onadventures into the galaxy.
I'm done with the Skywalkersaga.
I'm done with it.
I'm done with the Skywalkersaga.
We've beaten that one to death.
We don't need it anymore.
Give me more Wim Fern, kb andNeil for the rest of my life.
(01:01:30):
I'm good.
Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
Rebels was my favorite Star Wars property.
It was at the top of my list.
Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
I like that time era.
I like that they've exploredthat time era and the Clone Wars
versus Rebels team.
Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
I am sort of team rebels because I like that it
explored its own branch yes, andI I a lot of people complained
about it and it was kind of adeal, a deal breaker for a lot
of people.
But I love the art style becauseit was a throwback to the ralph
mccorry concept art oh yeah Ilove that they did that so to me
, because they're I mean, ralphcame up with so many good
(01:02:11):
designs.
We wouldn't have Star Warswithout Ralph.
I mean, not the way that weknow it now, obviously, but you
know, to see them, to see Davego back into those archives and
grab those concepts like Zeb.
Zeb was the concept forChewbacca, right, and then we
now Zeb is his own character.
Dave rescued pocket, right, youknow.
(01:02:33):
And then we now we now zeb ishis, his own character, dave
rescued.
Dave rescued zeb from obscurityand and gave him to the world.
So that was one of the mainreasons I love rebels and it's
just, it's a damn good story.
Rebels is just a damn goodstory, oh yeah.
But now I'm saying it twoepisodes in skeleton, crew is
just bumped rebels to the numbertwo slot.
Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
All right, that's a gauntlet being laid down, folks.
I like this.
Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
It's a hot take.
So now, now, episode three isgoing to come out and it's going
to suck and I'm going to haveto like, oh, forget it.
That's it, I'm going back tothe acolyte.
Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
No, I'm going to see.
I'm actually looking forward to.
I'm going to steel city conthis weekend.
I'm looking forward to seeingBryce Dallas Howard and I want
to.
I know that she won't sayanything because, you know, good
people don't give away stuff attheir panels, but I want to
hear what she does say about theshow and if I get a chance I
just if I get that talk to her.
I want to ask her just likeokay, what can you tell me?
Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
Right, and so far it's a hit.
So far across the board, it's ahit.
There's even, like, even theone guy we don't need to talk
about him but the one guy whomakes a lot of Star Wars
theories.
You know what I'm talking aboutthat guy yeah, he likes it.
(01:03:45):
I saw a tweet that he made.
I haven't delved too much intowhat he says because I don't
really like I'll see stuff popup on my feed.
I don't follow him, but he saidthat he was able to relate to
it and it took him back to hischildhood.
So I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
So if that guy is giving it high praise, then All
right, All right, so Crash again.
Thank you, sir, so much forjoining us on our Skeleton Crew
review and, yeah, we'll see younext time.
Hey, for the new season of StarWars Safe Space, are you going
to join us?
Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
Absolutely yeah.
As soon as you're ready to roll, let me know.
Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
Right, so probably in a few weeks we'll be ready to
roll on it.
All right, right, so probablyin a few weeks we'll be ready to
roll on.
All right, crash.
Thank you so much and thank youall for joining us this week.
And, uh, we will see you nextweek with uh, with more of this.
So I'm geeking out, all right,thanks everybody.
Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
Thank you.
Ooh, that was kind of sexy.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
That was kind of nice , all right.
So welcome to Skeleton CrewReview.
This is kind of like asupplemental little podcast that
we're going to be doing inconjunction with our Star Wars
Safe Space podcast that we doevery week.
So this is just a limited runcompanion show because we're
talking about Skeleton Crew.
(00:49):
Obviously it's the big thingright now and we're all very,
very excited.
So I'm Tommy D and I am joinedby the pilot of the infamous
Parma Flyer.
It's Crash.
Hi everybody, good to be backAwesome.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Good to have you back .
Good to be back Awesome.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Good to have you back .
Good to have you back.
You've been out traveling theworld.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Yes, I have Seeing sights and making the Star Tours
run.
You know all the good stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
There you go, from the beaches of Normandy to the
beautiful castles and the Disney, the disney playground that is
paris disney right yeah, 15times in a row on star tours.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
It's got to be a record.
What?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
I've never done it, once, not one time oh man, you
gotta do it.
So all right.
So let me ask you before wedive into yeah sidetrack right
off the bat of course that's howwe roll.
If you're, if you've everwatched, you know our are, any
of our other, you know circle ofnerds podcast, you know we
never stay on track, but anyway.
So star tours in paris does itstill have the rx droid is wreck
(01:58):
still it's got c-3po as thepilot.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
It's.
It's just like the ones inAnaheim and Orlando.
Okay, it's interesting becauseif you ride it enough times,
like my sister and I did,everything's in French, but
occasionally you'll get the same.
You know the maps and the cutscenes in English.
You know they're veryaccommodating.
(02:22):
You know there's thatreputation about French people
being rude.
They're not rude.
If you're polite, respect them,they'll respect you, and I
think that plays especially atDisney, where they're trying to
be French but friendly.
It was interesting.
We were going on the tour mysister's birthday, so she has a
little button that says it's mybirthday and all the cast
(02:45):
members would start recognizingus because we're just doing
around and around and around andaround and by the fifth time
they're like oh, happy birthdayEmily.
We were part of the familyalready.
But it's the great thing aboutStar Tours is, with the
randomization and all thedifferent maps they can do, the
(03:07):
combinations of what you can get.
Each experience is worth atleast two or three times.
We did two or three runs thefirst night, seven the next.
I mean we didn't do all in oneday like a crazy person person,
but it was, you know, over liketwo, three days.
Yeah, we did about 15 timesthrough and it was just fun to
(03:28):
see all the different all rightcombinations and cut scenes and
care and they're working in allthe some of the newer shows like
andor and ahsoka, and I'm surethey'll eventually work in
skeleton crew as well.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
oh yeah for sure, for sure, that's cool.
Yeah, we've been to.
We've been to paris once wedidn't go to paris disney.
Yeah, paris was super cool.
We didn't have a problem withanybody.
We saw some touristy stuff.
We kind of went off path to seesome non-touristy stuff and it
was cool.
We didn't experience any sortof rudeness at all.
(03:56):
But, like you said, we wererespectful.
We were respectful of theculture and we weren't like
we're Americans, do what we doand do what we wanted yeah, yeah
, I made it through two weekswith.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I speak two languages english and bad tourist french.
You know the amount.
The little you can rememberfrom high school is like bonjour
, and then just sort of playdumb slash, pathetic and like,
please help me, like yourenglish is going to be better
than my french, so let's do this.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I pull out a translator all the time and I'm
like uh Vor, and they're justlike just stop.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
We appreciate the attempt, but please just stop
and that's the key the attempt,the effort, the consideration,
exactly just a little respect,alright.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
So skeleton crew, yes .
Um, I'm just going to startright off the bat and say I love
it.
I have nothing negative to sayabout it.
The nostalgia is high with this.
It felt like meeting an oldfriend again, Seeing an old
(04:59):
friend after not seeing them forlike 20 years.
It's got the Amblin vibes, it'sgot the ET vibes, the Goonie
vibes.
You know it's got the Amblinvibes, it's got the ET vibes,
the Goonie vibes.
You know it's all just rightthere and it just it sucked me
and it had me.
It just had me from the start.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I had an interesting conversation with my sister, so
we were watching the showtogether and she's younger than
I am, she's 10 years youngerthan I am and you know, leading
up to the show everybody keptsaying oh, this is Star Wars
Goonies, this is Space Goonies.
She kind of went you knowpeople my age unless their
parents showed them, force-fedthem, 80s Goonies and all those
(05:37):
movies they didn't reallyunderstand.
She knows the pop culturereferences that have carried on
Us.
80s kids like to think that ourchildhood is eternal.
But kids from the 90s and 2000sunless they were shown a movie
like Goonies they may notunderstand fully the connections
(06:02):
that are being played in theshow.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Also, if you were, you know as a kid, and I think
this is where there's, becauseonline already there's there's
people there just like oh thisis.
This is not star wars.
This is not my star wars, blahblah, blah, right, right and,
and.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Getting on twitter was the greatest thing I ever
did.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Oh, I love it between twitter and tiktok, good lord.
But I think the the big picturethat people are missing with
this is, if you didn't grow upwith the original trilogy and I
mean like grow up, grow up withit you're not going to get that
nostalgia hit.
It's not going to hit you onthat level.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Right.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
That's not to say you can't enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
You can enjoy it for different reasons, right, not to
say you can't enjoy it.
You can enjoy it for differentreasons.
Exactly the story, they'rebuilding already seems very
insane.
This might be the Goonies ofyour childhood, just like the
prequel babies.
My sister, she grew up duringthe prequel trilogy.
That's her Star Wars.
That was where her childhoodmemories were formed.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
One of the beautiful things about Star Wars is that
each generation has their StarWars.
You've got the OT generation,you've got the prequel
generation, you've got the CloneWars animated series generation
, you've got the sequelgeneration and now you've got
the skeleton crew generationlike this is the mando verse in
(07:27):
general.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
So now you know, 20 years from now, star wars fans
will be dead.
But star wars fans hope.
Well, maybe not, hopefully not,but these, the kids, are seeing
it now.
They're gonna look at all ofthe stuff that came before and
they're going to say you knowwhat?
That's cool, that's cool.
Skeleton crew was my star wars.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Right, and because, just like we all grew up emulate
, it wanted to be a Luke or ahunt.
I loved that sequence at thebeginning.
Where the kids are, you knowthey show up at the bus stop and
the first thing they do is youknow they show up to the bus
stop and the first thing they dois, you know, break into a
lightsaber fight.
Who didn't do that?
There better be cardboard tubeson that planet, because you
(08:11):
need a good old cardboard tubelightsaber fight when you're a
kid to.
Really that's what being a StarWars fan was all about.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
And that's what, like when I say you know, watching
it for me was like, you know,running into an old friend, an
old childhood friend.
That's why because I did that Igrabbed whatever I could and we
had blasters and lightsabersand we did exactly what Wim and
(08:39):
Neil did.
We did exactly what they did.
And the writers and theproducers, they knew that it was
written by Star Wars fans, evenif the writing wasn't directly
from a Star Wars fan.
They got input from people whogrew up in that era.
(09:03):
You could just tell.
And then all of the Easter eggsthat are sprinkled, they got
input from people who grew up inthat era.
You could just tell, I mean,you just you know.
And then all of the Easter eggsthat are sprinkled throughout
we're going to touch on some ofthose, right, because there's
just so many, we can't getthrough all of them.
But so the big thing that Iwant to talk about, because it,
it, it goes between these twoepisodes.
Both were great.
(09:26):
I love between these twoepisodes.
Both were great.
I love both episodes.
Um, I love the pacing, I lovethe discovery, I loved, you know
, I love the reaction to lightspeed.
I thought that was, that washilarious um because every I
think we as fans have become sojaded to the idea of this.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
oh, hyper, faster than light travel.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Oh, it's just like you know, giving your car and
going down the street first timeout, I I'd be screaming like
well yeah, yeah, and it's funnyCause someone, someone posted on
on Tik TOK Um and they use thissound where some it was like
very tranquil and where it wasvery tranquil.
And then it went to screamingand it said Omega from the Bad
(10:06):
Batch, her first time going tolight speed and she was peaceful
and beautiful and calm andserene.
And then we've got the SkeletonCrew kids, their first time,
freaking out and I think a lotof that has to do with the fact
that they live on this isolatedplanet and that's the big topic
(10:29):
for this episode of our show.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
My questions have questions about this at Atlanta.
How do we say it?
Speaker 1 (10:38):
So it's.
It's spelled at Atten, butsometimes it sounds like they're
saying add like alpha Delta.
Yeah, I think it's alpha tango.
So I think it's at Atten, butsometimes it sounds like they're
saying add like Alpha Deltayeah, I get it, but I think it's
Alpha Tango, so I think it's atAtten.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
At Atten.
Okay, yeah, a lot of questionsAgain.
The space goonies, the piratething, you know, everybody loves
the dissect trailers for, like,oh, what's this show going to
be about?
What's this going to be about?
Remember when Ezra Bridger wasSpace Alive?
Everybody wants to make thatinstant connection to something
from the past to make it seemlike this isn't an original.
My questions have questionsabout this place where the kids
(11:10):
come from the space suburb.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
So let me pose a couple of questions to you,
because you and I probably havethe same questions and those
questions have questions.
So the big one first of all.
The big one, the big one, yeah,first of all the big one.
We know that this takes placeduring, during it's within
season one of the Mandalorian, Ibelieve.
I believe that's the time postEmpire sometime it's post Empire
(11:36):
, but it takes place around theevents of the Mandalorian,
season one or two, um.
So that's we.
We know this.
My question to you is based oncertain things that were said
and certain things that we caninfer.
When do you think that thisthey're calling it the great
(12:01):
work this planet?
When do you think this cameabout?
My thought is, it's at leastpre-Clone Wars and the reason I
say that is during the secretary, the undersecretary,
(12:24):
undersecretary Farah.
She's in the class and she makesthis comment about keeping the
Republic peaceful and strong.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
She didn't say the new Republic, not the new
Republic, not the high Republic,the Republic.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
He said the Republic.
And then when we see the kidshand over the credits they're
like, hey, where did you get oldRepublic, mint condition old
Republic credits?
But do they mean old Republicor do they mean pre-Empire
Republic?
But then the Old Republic isstill anywhere from like 25,000
(13:05):
BBY to 19 BBY.
So I mean the Old Republic is abig era.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Yeah, the money was, like they say, in many things
follow the money.
And when the kid, you know, gothis dad and again as an 80s kid
, a latchkey kid you know thatscene where his dad is just, you
know, like sliding over yourlunch money like it's no big
deal.
You know, only use this forlunch, don't go buy, you know,
baseball cards at the cornershop.
(13:33):
Or you know this is strictlyfor your food, because I'm going
to be at work late.
You know that right away it waslike a little ping in my head.
I was like, okay, that's,that's older money.
I roughly remember what RepublicDiteri credits like Qui-Gon
Jinn would have had on Tatooine.
That was no good on, becauseback then the Republic wasn't a
(13:57):
thing for them, so they wanted adifferent kind of currency.
This is like getting a pristineoriginal print $2 bill and I
love the fact that the guys inthe pirate trading post when he
flashes the money out there.
We all remember our first timewe had our own money and you
(14:20):
went to the store and you pulledyour wallet out without having
all your birthday money fromgrandma and you're pulling out
like 20s.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Is this enough?
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Yeah, like Mr Big Spender here.
Okay, is this enough?
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Right and you're buying like two candy bars and a
soda, right.
But then the way that that guyyou know the guy at the food
stall he was like what, no, no,no, we, no, we need more, we
need more.
How much could that possibly beworth?
Then he's like oh yeah, my dadgave it to me for lunch money.
(14:56):
Everyone's like what Lunchmoney that?
And then when we see the ship,when the ship takes off, it's
buried and there's trees growingon top of it.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
How long has that ship been there?
Why was it there?
Speaker 1 (15:14):
I think we'll get to that.
We're going to get to that,obviously.
But we see the skeleton pirates.
You know what's left of them.
So where do you think this like?
I'm thinking again, at leastpre-Clone Wars.
It could be much, much olderthan that.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Snips and I had this debate just tonight coming home.
We were driving home and I said, yeah, we both kind of had that
moment of like okay, the easyanswer obviously it's gotta be
pre-Empire Republic.
Yeah, it could be further backlike they.
You know, they know aboutaldani, you know you listen to
(15:52):
this and some of the otherworlds they were talking about.
You know you're like, okay, sothese worlds haven't been like
plundered by the empire.
You know this is clearlypre-empire thinking and whatever
this school has been teachinggenerations of kids on this
planet is sort of outdatedinformation.
Like you know how when we grewup we never got in history class
(16:15):
past the Civil War.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Right.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Even though the books may have gotten to World War I
or whatever, yeah, but we nevergot that far before the school
year ended.
And I'm like these, I feel likethis culture, this society is
running on outdated information,so it could be a very for lack
of a better term a gatedcommunity from an earlier time.
I would even say I don't want tosay, maybe not where we saw it
(16:44):
in the Acolyte, but somewherebetween that, like closer to
maybe the prequels than theAcolyte.
But I have a feeling this is anold society level of learning.
This is like when, on anothershow, this would be where Kirk
and the Enterprise show up andlike these people haven't you
(17:04):
know the gangster, they haven'tprogressed past the 1930s.
You know these people are stillliving in the old.
You know the high republic orthe old republic.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
So it could potentially so.
Acolyte took place 100 yearsbefore the prequels.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yes, yeah, if I remember the math right
somewhere around there yeah,something like that.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
So you're saying that it it may not.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
So the the great work may not predate the acolyte,
but may definitely fall betweenthe acolyte and the prequels yes
as a safety I don't thinkthey've even, you know, known
about, because I've heardspeculation on other YouTube
clips and stuff People talkingabout.
Are these separatists?
Well, separatists wouldn't beusing Republic daterraries.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
No, no, no.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
So it's not a Clone Wars.
The easy answer could have beenlike oh, it's a society, a
neutral society, that shieldeditself from the Clone Wars.
They'd be using separaratistmoney if they were Separatists.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
I feel like this is the Republic.
They wouldn't refer to theRepublic at all.
Right, what if it's kind oflike a Truman Show experiment?
Is it kind of like a Vault-Tecexperiment?
Is it something I don't want tosay sinister, necessarily, but
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is somebody watching this happen?
Are they all clones?
Is it like a Noah's Arkscenario?
These people to escapesomething catastrophic.
They found this place and thenshielded themselves off from the
rest of the galaxy.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Well, remember, in the prequels they talk about how
there hadn't been a war sincethe formation of the Republic
Right.
That doesn't mean there weren'tconflicts, there could be
people.
That maybe just the Truman Showanalogy is very good in that
it's a bubbled community tomaintain a certain aesthetic, a
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certain nostalgic way thingsshould be.
They want this utopian societyto be a utopia whatever this
barrier is about, you know to,to have a whole society grow up
where.
I love the fact that you knowagain.
They showed us all this, allthis star Wars suburbia clips in
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the trailer, and, and, and thefirst episode basically amounted
to the um aptitude testing.
Remember when we were in schooland you know, you know, asking
a fourth grader what do you wantto do with the rest of your
life?
I don't know.
I totally understand, buteverything these kids you know.
One kid said oh, I want to be amiddle management supervisor.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
I want to be a data analyst.
But that's how they've beenraised, that's how they've been
indoctrinated.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
That's the only existence you know of.
You don't even see the stars.
How many times in Star Wars dowe see people kids, luke, even
Rey look up at the stars andthink well, what's out there for
me?
Well, if you can't see pastyour own planet, what's there to
aspire to?
Speaker 1 (20:22):
And someone online had mentioned that they were
like that's so stupid.
How do they not know what starsare?
It's not that they didn't knowwhat stars were, they had never
seen stars, because as you lookup into the night sky, all you
see is this array of red dots.
You see these red lights in thesky, and they're all perfectly
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aligned to form this array orthis grid, and then that's all
they've seen.
They've seen those swirlingclouds, almost like an Aurora
Borealis sort of effect, andthen you see all these little
red dots in the sky.
Do the kids know what those are?
The adults clearly do, but dothe kids know what those are?
The adults clearly do, but dothe kids know what those are?
And so my question to you alsowhat do you think those are?
(21:12):
Is it a defense system?
Is it a hollow array to makethe planet look different?
It doesn't seem to be a defensenetwork, because it didn't keep
the ship in, right?
It's doing something.
What do you think it's doing?
Speaker 2 (21:26):
I think it's a defense in it, almost in a
masking sort of way, either x,you know, from the inside out or
the outside in.
Like you know, the galaxy is abig place, you know.
We, we've heard, you know,anakin talking about I want to
be the first one to see them all.
And we've seen the star map.
(21:46):
In that Luke was, you know,hiding.
You know they were trying tofind Luke.
There's a lot of dots on thatmap, not, you know.
Very few people have coveredevery square inch of the galaxy
to see every planet on that map.
I'm sure there are places thatmaybe mask their viability,
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their appearance to maybe anoutside scan, but the reaction
of the pirates when the kidstold them where they were from.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
It's a mythological place.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
It's like four kids showing up at your CD bar and
going oh yeah, hi, I'm fromAtlantis, here's a gold bar, Can
I buy lunch?
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Right, your head would explode.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Yeah, and it's almost like a reverse.
I heard a great.
It's like a reversal of theGoonies story where the kids are
looking for the treasure.
The outside world want to findout where the kids are from.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Yeah, the kids came from the treasure.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
The kids came from the treasure and, like the
pirates that we saw at thebeginning which again we'll get
into Easter eggs and stuff,there was a lot of interesting
visual references there, but Ilove the dark night moment of
the lone Republic.
Credit on the floor is sort ofan F, you Like, to anyone who's
trying to steal what what youthought was on this ship here.
(23:08):
Here here, have a dollar andshut up.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Right Shut up, so that I feel like that was
probably left behind on purpose.
Yeah, that loan credit.
So with at, at, and they werevery careful to not show once
the kids get past the barrier.
We didn't see, we didn't seethem leaving the planet.
Normally we see that in StarWars.
We always see a shot of theships leaving the planet.
(23:30):
Right.
We don't see it this time.
And then, when they asked SM-33to send us back, any droid would
be able to access thosecoordinates to go back to where
they just came from.
Yeah, but they're not in hismemory banks.
He was searching and searchingand searching.
They've been deleted.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
You almost wonder if his ship got there by accident
or like a crash.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
The pirates finally found it and they killed each
other trying to argue Maybethose pirates somehow integrated
to the culture there.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Yeah, whoever the, the, the dead skeletons were of?
Yeah, somebody.
Yeah, there's a lot ofquestions.
Obviously it's the first, yeah,first two episodes.
There's a lot of questionsabout where that ship came from.
Who are the people?
Yeah, was it intentionallylanded crash, whatever you want
to call it on the planet, or youknow?
Was it intentionally landedcrash, whatever you want to call
it on the planet, or you know?
And then maybe the it just sortof got buried over time, like
(24:32):
uh, yeah, you know, like thepirate ship on goonies, where
it's like, okay, it was in thiscove, and then the, the, you
know it slowly got buried in,you know, you know, until the
kids let it out, like that was aI'm assuming, yeah, the goon,
I'm assuming it's a free, openport.
When they put the pirate shipin there, much like I think the
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starship wasn't thereintentionally or was it just
accidentally there and then leftto be covered up.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
It's a caper, it's a mystery and I love it.
We're going to learn so much.
It's like you want to say Iknow what's going to happen, I
already know and this, and thatI think we've sussed out who Jod
is.
I think that's.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
First shot as soon as he had that Cobra Commander
mask.
As soon as he spoke, my sisterand I looked at each other and
we're like that's.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Jude.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Law and it's going to be funny watching how he
maintains his persona this lot.
The things he said to the kidscan have a double meaning, where
it's like there's what I saidand there's what I meant and
we're going to find out how he'sgoing to juggle that with them.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Because it's clear he's just going to use them to
get to the treasure planet Right, the eternal treasure.
So again, I'm really curious tofind out about what the great
work is.
I do want to find out if it'slike a Vault-Tec sort of thing
or if it's a Noah's Ark sort ofthing, or how it's like a
Vault-Tec sort of thing whereyou know, or it's a Noah's Ark
sort of thing or you know howit's going to work.
But another thing I foundreally interesting was when they
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go to Port Borgo and they'relike look aliens.
And my wife and I were talkingabout this and it's like, well,
they have aliens on their planet.
It's like, but do they?
It's like, well, they havealiens on their planet.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
It's like but do they like these, like the rhodians?
And we see, uh, what else doyou see?
Speaker 1 (26:34):
there's like thorium, or walk on the dog right and
whatever neil is yeah, neil'sspecies has not, has not been
revealed yet.
Right um, he is not an ortolan,right, he is not.
He's not like Max Rebo.
That is two completelydifferent species.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
And at first I was mad about that because Disney
Star Wars.
One of my few complaints aboutDisney Star Wars is they have a
tendency to shy away from theclassic Star Wars creatures,
species other than humans,because production designers, I
think, like to like create theirown new makeup or aesthetics
and you know, just saying, giveme like 20 rodians and a couple
(27:13):
mon cow like.
Especially in the sequeltrilogy they were really like
they would create all these newspecies because it looks cool on
a concept drawing.
When they came out with neiland and the director said that
he's not the same species as MaxRebo, I was like fine, is this
like?
Yeah, I'm no space Star WarsDarwin.
(27:34):
Is this like a Vulcans versusRomulans thing where they're
like maybe like a splinter of aspecies?
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Yeah, you know, maybe that's what it is.
So, yeah, we come from the samesystem but they have different
planets.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Maybe they're part of the time.
Yeah, maybe they've evolveddifferently.
So, yeah, and the more you see,like max revo and book of boba
fett, like okay, I get, the eyesare less expressive than neil's
.
He's got that cute littlehaircut, you know, yeah, and I'm
sure part of the mystery isgoing to be well, why haven't we
seen Neil's people before?
Maybe this is a Noah's Arkthing where, like, maybe his
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species was relocated.
There's obviously an Ithorian,the lady walking the dog.
I didn't spot anybody elseuntil we got to the pirate
station.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
You know the pirates got all kinds of there was an
authorian kid in their classbecause he said something and
then another kid was like no, Iwant to be a data analyst or
whatever In the undersecretary'shouse when Fern goes home, you
(28:46):
see that mural on the wall.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
I paused on that like five yeah I had to get a
close-up of that.
I was like, when I first saw it, you know my first, you know I
was like, okay, that's nice.
And then the second, that beerwas like what's that?
Speaker 1 (28:58):
right.
So we see an on there and wesee um an older version of
Neal's species with tusks, whichI thought was pretty
interesting.
We just don't know about Neal'sspecies.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
This is going to be the Baby Yoda thing all over
again, Until they give us a nameof the species the Neals, the
adult Neals, the adult Neals.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
There's so many questions, but, um, I really I'm
really thinking that, you know,they don't consider like neil
and the other thorians.
And there were a lot ofrhodians.
I noticed there were a lot ofrhodians in his class.
They don't consider them aliensbecause they've been a part of
their culture for potentiallycenturies.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Right, and that's why I think it goes back farther
than we think.
Yeah, because this might be aNoah's Ark thing where literally
it's just a handful of species,maybe some kind of cataclysm,
maybe just whatever.
Maybe it is an Atlantis thingwhere the society decided they
wanted to cut themselves offfrom the galaxy at large and
(30:15):
just focus on whatever thisgreat work of theirs is.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Right, whatever it is , we'll have to wait and see.
I'm very excited.
One more question and thenwe'll start getting into
Easterter eggs here.
Um, okay, so john, he, he kindof used the force, or did he use
the force to get the keys,because it looked really janky,
(30:42):
as the keys were like floatingalong.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
But my thing is like, if he was able to do that prior
, why hadn't he done it before?
Unless he was just looking forsome rubes to help him get out?
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Snips had a great answer because we had that same
question and her answer to thatwas and I'm tending to believe
this he probably could haveescaped fairly easy.
Whether he's force sensitive orit was a optical trick, maybe
he's got a magnet, who knows?
You know, it could be anythinglike that.
Yeah, like that uh guy onkenobi that was impersonating a
(31:19):
jedi there.
Yeah, but I think the reason,yeah, it's like's like DJ in the
Last Jedi.
He could have gotten out of theprison cell anytime he wanted.
But when the kids show up andthey're talking about having a
ship now, he's got a way out.
If he is the captain that wasmutinied and thrown in the cell,
(31:42):
sure I could bust out of thecell, but where am I going to go
?
Speaker 1 (31:45):
So he's just looking for that, I need a ride.
He's looking for for that, Ineed a ride.
He's looking for his moment.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Right, they've got a ship, they're allegedly from
this mythical treasure planetand he's just like yes, Because
if he finds the treasure hemight be thinking now, I can get
back in with my crew andreclaim where I belong.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Right and get his ship back and his crew back from
Brutus.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Right.
Isn't that a great?
Isn't that guy?
Just From a design standpoint,isn't that just a great callback
?
I've seen people referencinghim to that one guy from the
cantina.
That was like a wolf.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
That's exactly what he is.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Great callback.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Yeah, and we see a lot of those and we'll get to
that with the Easter eggs.
But yeah, that is exactly whathe is.
But I also like he's got someBlackbeard vibes, because he's
got all of those pistols on hishead.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Again, the pirates theming of this show is
fantastic.
Whoever designing this guy'scostume, I love there's a mashup
between Star Wars and Piratesof the Caribbean.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
That's just working A hundred percent.
I love the captain's cabin.
I like the hats, the big hatsthat were in there.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Even the guy at the beginning when he's got that I
call the captain's cabin.
I like the hats, the big hatsthat were in there, and even the
guy when he was at thebeginning.
When he's got that I call itthe Cobra Commander shield.
Did you notice?
The top of it looks like one ofthose triangle hats yes.
And it's like a one-piece,almost like Zori's helmet from
Rise of Skywalker.
You know that very tight faceshield Again the Cobra Commander
thing.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
But as soon as I saw the top of it, that's a pirate
hat mask and then like, evenlike, at the uh, like during the
closing credits, the musicchanges a couple of times um,
but like the last change um ofthe uh, the closing credit music
, it's very much a pirate shantysound.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
They're just, they're leaning into the pirate thing
and I, I absolutely love it.
All right, so let's do, let'sdo a few Easter eggs.
There were a lot, so a coupleof that stood out to me.
First was FM 33.
Throwback Smee to Peter Pan,captain Hook's little first mate
(34:12):
.
I thought that was awesome.
That was a nice throwback.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Very Disney.
Also very Jude Law-esque,because he played Captain Hook
in a previous movie.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Yes, he did Not an Easter egg necessarily, just an
observation Fern wearing herjacket inside out so she could
be the cool kid with all herpasses on it yeah.
Well, I love that and somethingthat Sherry had pointed out to
me that I missed the first time.
If you look at, if you go backand look at Neil, you see it a
(34:45):
few times, but he has a deviceon his belt.
I didn't see anybody else witha device like that on their
belts.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Is he asthmatic?
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
That would definitely be in line with him, but we
haven't seen him use it.
But Sherry thought what if itwas a translator?
Maybe Neil's not actuallyspeaking basic.
We hear him as speaking basic,because we speak basic, but
maybe that's on his belt, that'sa translator.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Almost like it's a very common sci-fi trope.
The universal translator, whereall the aliens speak perfect
basic or English for us, so thatwe don't have to worry about
subtitles.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Subtitles all day, yeah, but like in the
Mandalorian no Book of Boba.
In the Book of Boba Fett we seethe mayor of Mos Espa, the
Ithorian.
He's got a translator apparatus.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Right.
He's speaking Ithorian andthere's a little delay from when
the and then the basic kicks inonce.
It's like the Alexa.
Here's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
I'm wondering is that on Neil's belt?
Is that a translator?
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
For a multi-species society that tracks, and I
wouldn't be surprised if that isa translator.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Well, I'm looking forward, or you know what?
I also wouldn't be surprised ifthe writers and the showrunners
put things in there like thatjust to get us talking.
Like, to them, it's nothing,it's just a clip-on.
It's just.
You know what they went out?
They got a shaver.
They put some greeblies on it,stuck it to neil's belt.
(36:31):
It has no use, but we're gonnaobsess over it.
As star wars fans, we're goingto obsess about this tiny little
greebly on his belt.
What is it?
Does he have galactic asthma?
Is it a universal translator?
What's on Neil's belt?
We must know.
I don't know.
A couple other things that wereagain.
(36:53):
This is probably nothing.
It's just my weird brain.
So when they're inside the shipand KB hits that power unit to
try to get the ship startedagain, to try to get the ship
started again, she hits it in away that was very similar to the
way that Han hits the, the backpanel on the, the, the Falcon.
So she hit it, the Fonzie punch.
(37:15):
Yes, she hits it, it starts up,it dies down.
She hits it again and then itgoes just like when Han hits the
hits the Falcon.
Well, yeah, the Fonzie punch.
So I thought that was really,really cool.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Oh yeah, and a very.
Again, it's an 80s kid.
She gives off that tech kidvibe 100%.
There's the archetypes we got.
The cool girl who comes fromthe higher class family.
(37:49):
She's kind of hiding her statusin this society by playing the
bad girl persona when she's outand about, hangs out with kids
who race bikes and all this jazz.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
The kid that she was racing bikes with the name
sounded familiar to me.
Let me see if I can find it.
So the bully's name is BongeFalfa and it's named after Bob
(38:25):
Falfa.
It's Harrison Ford, bob Falfait's Harrison Ford's character
in American Graffiti.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Oh, that's classic, I love it.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
So that's one of those things I was like why does
that sound familiar?
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Another movie where, again, I know of it, I've
watched it, but I mean, it's notone of those movies where even
people are religiously let's gowatch American Graffiti out of
the blue blue, like you got tobe in the mood for it and
there's so many great callbacksand characters from classic
pirate hot rod teenage.
(38:58):
You know even there wereteenage, teenage adventure
movies before the 1980s.
But I mean, oh, way before andand and and, to bring back some
of that, like you know, it's,it's like an update.
It's updating, it's taking itthe themes of those movies and
translating it into a new genrelike star wars, to tell the same
(39:19):
story of course so about youknow your kids in their in their
first exploring, you know theirfirst touch of the wider world.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
Yeah, so another one.
I know that this one probablyjumped out at you, but the
hollow circus.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Oh, my God, yes, I love how modern Star Wars
writers again people who realizethe people who work on Star
Wars now grew up on Star Warswriters again.
A lot of the people haverealized the people who work on
Star Wars now grew up on StarWars, like we've been saying.
So they're going to take evensomething like the holiday
special that George I'm surecringes every time he brings it
(40:00):
up to them, but they stillprobably can, because we loved
it, we saw it as kids and youpull from it.
I just saw a promo, an oldYouTube video, for the old
droids cartoon.
I can't get that song Travelagain, those songs as goofy as
it is out of my head.
Yeah, because it's a holographicthing and to bring in something
(40:22):
like that holographic circusthing from a throwaway holiday
special that is a fan favorite,if not a favorite of the creator
.
It's not like something theyact.
Oh, let's put out the Star Warsholiday special on Blu-ray
every year.
But the fans remember it, thefans can call back to it, and
(40:44):
now that the fans are grown upand working in Star Wars,
they're bringing in some oftheir childhood memories.
They're grabbing from it.
They're grabbing from all of it.
The fans can call back to it,and now that the fans are grown
up and working in Star Wars,they're bringing in some of
their childhood memories.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
They're grabbing from it.
They're grabbing from all of it.
The Ferryman he was from theEwoks Battle of Endor, he was
from the Teak Teak yeah.
So again, that's not an alienthat we've seen since the Ewoks
movies, as far as I can remember.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
I don't remember seeing no, I think again, it was
one of those things that theycan.
You know, fans remember it fromtheir childhood and I even
heard Phil Tippett.
They brought him out ofretirement just to do the
puppeteering, because that wasan actual puppet, yeah.
(41:31):
And I'll admit it was kind oflike the train conductor on Book
of Boba Fett, where they made areal big deal about it being a
practical effect and it kind oflooked like a practical effect
but it was okay.
Yeah, sure you could have doneit in CG.
It would have looked like apractical effect, but you were.
It was okay.
Yeah, sure you could have donein CG.
It would have looked more livelike it out of it, but it's okay
(41:52):
to do it again.
It's like the circus performer,it's like, oh, yeah, it's okay
to do a little callback to ourchildhood once in a while,
because guess what Star Wars isfor kids versus, and I really do
honestly think that this showbelongs to the kids.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
We love it, I love it , you love it, we enjoy it
because it is that old friend,but it belongs to the kids.
I'm not saying that it wasspecifically made just for
children.
Clearly it wasn't, otherwise itwouldn't have all these Easter
eggs.
The writers threw things in forus to enjoy, with this
(42:37):
alongside this next generation,so we can enjoy it together, and
that is like that's why thisisn't for me anyway, one of my
favorite Star Wars propertiesand we're two episodes in.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Right, and there's so much, yeah, and there's so much
room to explore this part.
It's not tied into theSkywalker saga.
We're not going to see a babyRey walking around Again.
Fans like this we like to upsetwho can make a cameo?
(43:10):
Honestly, I hope there aren'tany real cameos.
I have a couple in my mind thatcould show up and I'm like it
would work and I can see whereit could sort of tie in the
whole Mandoverse time eratogether.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
So Vayne shows up yeah, so we see him and honestly
I'm fine with that becausethat's a good tie-in to the
Mandoverse.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
He was such a throwaway character on Mandover
in the pirate storyline that Ikind of like the fact that we're
going to see maybe more ofwhere he belongs.
This is his part of the galaxy.
He likes to slither aroundEvery once in a while.
You need a nice little, sleazylittle bad guy in a story.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
He's almost likable, almost he's not as likable as
Hondo.
I kind of want Hondo to show up.
I'm with you.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
I'm kind of want hondo to show up.
I kind of I'm with you, I'mkind of again there's ones like
I could fit a man, I could.
You know, I saw those x-wingsin one of the trailers and I'm
like, oh, are we gonna get up?
Are we gonna get a paul carsonsighting, are we?
Speaker 1 (44:21):
probably, probably.
So what are some?
There's more, there's so many.
We could do a whole show juston easter eggs, right?
What are some that jumped outto you that you saw?
Speaker 2 (44:29):
There was one.
I didn't catch it right awaybecause it was so faint and I'm
in a big room watching it on TV.
When I put the headphones on, Ikind of lose it.
In the prison cells, when thekids first show up, you hear
this whistling.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
Oh, like in Pirates of the.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Caribbean and I watched another video talk about
.
There's a you could hear it upclose.
They they zeroed in on it.
It's the whistling from thepirates of the caribbean right.
There's all sorts of littlethings like that where, like you
know, callbacks to a non starwars attraction, but it's part
of the family.
It's's Disney.
(45:07):
I love that this show can meshthose two things together and
it's not weird.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
It's not overt, it's not in your face.
It's so subtle.
I missed it the first time.
I missed the whistling thefirst time, but when I went back
and I watched.
I heard it again.
When the ship starts up for thefirst time, you hear the old
school dial-up modem again.
Um, when the ship starts up forthe first time, you hear the
old school dial-up modem soundas the ship is booting up.
You hear that old like aoldial-up.
(45:37):
You know modem internet soundeffect.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
It was so cool somebody else picked up, uh,
darth vader's targeting computerfrom the tie fighter chase well
, was that in there?
Speaker 1 (45:49):
The sound was there.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Obviously not the screen.
Star Wars fans are getting toogood for their own good at
picking out little Easter eggdetails.
I'm sure the sound mixer guysare like.
This is all I got to work with.
Matt Wood's only got so manytoys, Come on.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
They have to appreciate it when we find these
things.
Like you said, Matt Wood isalso a huge Star Wars fan.
Wasn't he the voice of Grievous?
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
Grievous.
He had a bunch of voices.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
And the Malibu.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
Yeah, and he's like the lead sound designer, right,
or something like that.
So I feel like they do putstuff like that in there on
purpose for us to find, and whenwe do find them, that's got to
be fun for them oh yeah, andlittle things like Millennium
Falcon alone.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
Even watching Solo, there were so many and it was
obviously the same ship.
But there's just certain soundsthat are synonymous with the
Falcon and Star Wars tech.
I could try to imitate it, butit would sound terrible.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
There's just like the engine failing.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
Yeah.
There's certain sounds that you, Because when you hear them on
other shows I love Toy Story 2,I think, when Buzz Lightyear's
watching the video game and hewaves his hand through the
hologram of the battery and itmakes a lightsaber whoosh, and
I'm just like, oh you, Ben Burtt, Aren't you just a crazy?
Speaker 1 (47:23):
And they do it because that's how they
celebrate their love of thefandom, and it's so cool.
So what are some other Eastereggs that jumped out at you that
you noticed?
Speaker 2 (47:34):
Mostly, again, most of the ones I picked up on was
the pirates theming.
I think in that initial attackone of the guys it wasn't I mean
they didn't even bother withthe stereotypical blaster sound,
it sounded like a flint handpistol, yeah, things like that.
Or, during the attack, therappellers.
(47:58):
I didn't get a good look atthem, but the spacesuits they
were wearing, I swear look likethe ones that you see Obi-Wan
and Ezra Bridger wearing thevery generic open space dome
helmet kind of thing, and I wantto watch it again just to kind
of slow-mo that a little bit andbe like did they really make a
(48:18):
live-action space suit?
I love that we're starting toget between the animated world
and the real-world stuff, stuff,a sharing of designs and
constantly feloni and favra wereboth involved in this.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
So of course dave is going to pull stuff from the
clone wars and he can't not.
He can't bring stuff over fromthe clone wars like we're gonna
get it.
Like I would, I would not besurprised if we saw I mean, to
be honest, I wouldn't besurprised if we saw Rex kicking
around, but he's probably deadat this point.
But you know there'll besomething else.
(48:59):
There'll be some other CloneWars references in there.
We've got to keep an eye outfor them.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
Yeah, and it was like again for me this first couple
episodes I wanted to get a feelfor the aesthetic of this.
You know, at Anna, planet andthe pirates, yeah, I love.
You know we've all you knowwe've done.
You know, space Mos EisleyCantina, where it was like I
(49:27):
liked how there was, you knowthe kids were running around.
Side of the Cantina where itwas like I liked how the kids
were running around and the twogirls show up with the one place
that looked obviously like anightclub, shall we say, for
adults.
I like how the girls immediatelyhad the okay, let's not go in
there For kids who've never seenthe big wide world.
(49:48):
The Spidey sense went off andwent.
That's not go in there, likethat's, you know, again for kids
who've never seen the big wideworld.
You know, the spidey sense wentoff and went.
That's not safe.
Yeah, and and also when all theboys are playing with the
pirate doodads and hats of thegym.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
I got a gun because we're going to a strange town
well, and also there was, um, oh, I cannot remember her name,
but the lady with the sixbreasts that was dancing in
Jabba's palace.
She was outside of this adultestablishment.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
Oh, I missed that one .
I have to watch that again.
Speaker 1 (50:22):
Yeah, so there was that other lady that went to who
I think was also the samespecies as one of the dancers
One of the dancers, yeah.
But yeah, the lady with the sixbreasts.
I can't remember her name, butI know that Jabba hired her
because she reminded him of hismother.
I remember that was in a book.
(50:43):
That's her backstory.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
Yeah, and the pirates for me again.
I've been waiting for morecallbacks to classic Star Wars
creatures and characters likespecies.
Speaker 1 (50:57):
Oh, there was a bunch .
Speaker 2 (50:58):
Yeah, and the pirates is where it's at, because they
can just take.
They need such a diverse rangeof oh yeah, they were grabbing a
lot of guys.
Speaker 1 (51:08):
There was another one , one of Gorian Shard's guys.
Oh yeah, they were grabbing.
Yeah, there was another one, um, one of gory and shards guys.
He was there, there were.
There were a couple of otherones from, uh, jabba's, I
thought I can't remember now.
Um, oh, there's another easteregg that I had in my notes.
I forgot about, um, when, um,when, whim is talking about Jedi
(51:34):
temples that can burythemselves, bury themselves the
Lothal Temple.
Speaker 2 (51:38):
You saw that, yeah.
And another interesting thing Isaw a video the Arabesh on that
little Viewmaster storybook ofhis.
The arabesh on that littleViewmaster storybook of his.
The reason I think this ispre-prequels and not a Clone
Wars style isolation in societyis that if it was a Separatist
(52:02):
thing or something, they wouldnot have fairy tales painting
the Jedi in a good light.
Speaker 1 (52:07):
Right, the Jedi would have been bad guys.
Yeah, painting the Jedi in agood light.
Speaker 2 (52:09):
Right, right, the Jedi would have been bad guys.
Yeah, and the fact that he'splaying with an action figure
homemade action figures of aJedi and a.
You know what the Sith are?
Well, you're better off thanthe Jedi Council, apparently.
Speaker 1 (52:21):
Right.
So also, if you're creatingthis utopian society, why would
you allow the knowledge of Jediand Sith to spark the
imagination of your childrenwhen you know you're just like
they're never going to achievethat because you're going to
plug them into the accountingdepartment in order to maintain
your utopia?
(52:41):
I I.
Speaker 2 (52:42):
I have a feeling that was not a thing he said dad
used to read to him, but I havea feeling that was something.
Speaker 1 (52:48):
Maybe the mother who we have not seen or heard of yet
maybe introduced into the kid'slife we haven't seen mom and we
also know that, um, we haven'tseen fern's dad.
So we don't know, maybe they'rethey're both single parents,
maybe their parents died, maybetheir parents have bigger parts
(53:10):
to play in the great work, right, we don't know yet, so we'll
have to wait and see whathappens.
Very excited about that, veryexcited for Episode 3.
So, before we wrap up,predictions for Episode 3.
What have you got?
Speaker 2 (53:30):
I'm very interested to hear Jude Law's facts.
He's got to explain to the kidswhat was I doing there?
Was I a bad pirate?
Was I a prisoner of the pirate?
How did I get eventually?
I have a feeling the kids, thedroid.
We're taking this guy on, thisvery smooth-talking guy.
(53:53):
What's his excuse going to befor how he got there and why he
needed to get out?
Speaker 1 (54:02):
All right, I don't have any predictions right now.
Speaker 2 (54:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (54:08):
I'm just like, oh my God, what's going to happen next
?
I'm really excited.
I don't know what we're goingto see and I really you know I
don't want to deep dive too muchinto it, because I want to
really be surprised.
Speaker 2 (54:22):
I think it's good, especially early on in the show.
Like you know, they always do atwo-episode premiere to make it
like an extended episode, andthey always do a two episode
premiere to make it like anextended episode, and I liked
that.
This because this show has gota lot of self world building to
take care of.
This isn't part of the greaterRepublic.
This isn't that we know.
You know these are, these arekids lost on a ship, yeah, From,
(54:44):
yeah who have no idea whatthey're getting themselves into.
Let that let that cook, let thatplay out.
Speaker 1 (54:51):
I agree.
I love it.
I'm looking forward to it.
It's such a good show.
I can't say enough about it.
It's just such a good show.
I'm so glad they made it.
Speaker 2 (55:06):
It feels weird to be happy about Star Wars, right?
I mean, I'm so glad they madeit.
It feels weird to be happyabout Star Wars, right?
No, I mean, I'm kidding.
I've loved most of what's youknow the Mandoverse and
everything has been put in thesequel.
I love new Star Wars.
I actually love new Star Warsmore, I think, than I remember,
(55:27):
because classic Star Wars, ot,star Wars is always on TV.
It's been part of my life for40 years.
This is exciting because thisis new.
I want to know what these kidsare about.
I want to know what the piratesare after.
There's so many things I wantto know that I don't have
already ingrained in my head andself-canon Tell me more.
(55:47):
I'm really looking forward tonext week.
Speaker 1 (55:50):
And I have to say I'm already disappointed that it's
only eight episodes.
Speaker 2 (55:57):
I already want more.
Speaker 1 (55:59):
I know it's only going to run for eight and I
already want more and it's justlike oh man, I'm already sad and
we're two episodes in.
I'm already sad that it's goingto end.
I'm that excited about it.
Yeah.
So you know, it's not going tobe for everyone and it doesn't
have to be for everyone.
No.
Speaker 2 (56:19):
And for those you're going to give it an honest
chance to tell its own story andnot affix your own.
Like you know how do we blameKathleen Kennedy for all the
problems in my life own.
Like you know how do we blamekathleen kennedy for all the
problems in my life.
Speaker 1 (56:32):
Just go with it, enjoy the ride.
Let's have fun with it.
Um, one thing that I thought Isaw this on tiktok someone.
Someone replied to one of ourvideos on tiktok and um, we're
having a conversation about itand the guy said that he sat
down, he watched it with his 10year old daughter and she looked
at him and smiled and gave hima thumbs up.
And my response to that is thatis the only critique I will
(56:56):
accept.
That is the only.
That is the only criticism.
That is the only review thatI'm going to accept about this
show.
You and I can talk about it andsay it's good or bad or
whatever all day.
Yeah, but that show doesn'tbelong to us, the people that
that show belongs to, whateverthey say about it.
That's what I'm listening toyou.
Speaker 2 (57:18):
You and I met, you know, towards the end of my
career with the star wars groups.
Yeah, but I used to love goingout and you know, I'd be there
in my x-wing costume or in myjedi gear and kids were coming
up to me asking where, where'sAhsoka, where's Captain Ren?
This is just after Clone Warshad started and I was
knowledgeable enough about theshow because I'm a fan of it and
(57:38):
I've watched it, just likethese kids do, and I'm totally
into what this show's about thatI could play it off and give
them an answer.
I love seeing the younger fans'reaction to this stuff.
What the 40-year-old guys intheir basement on TikTok or
Twitter or whatever or YouTubechannel of their own making
(58:01):
knock yourself out.
In fact, knock yourself out,please.
Before I do it for you, I can'twait to see the next Halloween,
or even like a sci-ficonvention.
You know people bringing theirkids dressed up like these kids.
You'll start seeing malecostumes, thank you, and
something they can relate to attheir age level.
Speaker 1 (58:25):
Yes, young girls are going to be dressing up like
Fern and KB, right, it's goingto be dressing up like fern and
kb, right, it's going to happen.
You know, you know, young,young people of color are going
to be dressing up like whim.
That is a good thing.
Speaker 2 (58:40):
That is a good thing for star wars, that is a good
thing in general.
Speaker 1 (58:43):
Yeah it is a good thing in general, because now
these children have charactersthat look like them, they have
characters they can relate to,and now george always said that
star wars was for kids.
George has always said that hehas always been willing to die
on that hill.
George created star wars forchildren for that 12 and under
(59:04):
set.
That's what star wars is for,because when he was that age,
those were the kinds of serialshe was seeing when he went to
the movies.
He was looking at Flash Gordon,he was looking at the samurai
movies.
In that age it sparkedsomething in him to create this
wonderful, beautiful, amazinggalaxy that we all get to play
(59:26):
in.
Now I'm getting goosebumps, man.
Now kids that were his age thenare getting to experience this
galaxy far, far away.
I'm actually getting choked up.
I'm getting choked up.
I'm getting goosebumps.
I'm about to start crying on myfucking show.
All right, so now Wrapping itup.
Speaker 2 (59:43):
Good show, this was fun.
Speaker 1 (59:45):
It was great fun.
Crash, thank you for joining us.
Are you going to come back onnext week?
Speaker 2 (59:48):
We're going to come back next week, absolutely yeah,
I'll see you next week and I'llbe watching the show a couple
times before we come on.
I'm eating this up.
I love what's going on rightnow.
Speaker 1 (59:57):
Well, when we're done recording this episode, I'm
going to re-watch.
The last two episodes I'm goingto watch is now two episodes in
it is I'm going to say it it ismy favorite Star Wars property.
Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
I will say wow, I do like.
You know, there's this thing,I'll try to be real quick.
When Obi-Wan Kenobi came outand immediately they started
asking you and never ask anactor oh, do you want more work?
Yes, they do.
They will always say I'm alwaysup for season two of whatever.
If this does end up being aone-off run of eight episodes,
(01:00:31):
fine, tell me a good story thatcan become the timeless classic
that we 80s kids think Gooniesis in the Star Wars universe and
I will be happy with that smallpiece of gold.
Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
No, I disagree.
No, no, no.
You want more, one more.
So I want this to turn intolike a Stranger Things scenario
where it was only supposed to bea one-off and people love
Stranger Things so much They'vegot like four seasons now or
something like that.
Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
Okay, just don't go Game of Thrones on me, where you
keep milking it until you runout of ideas and then you blow
up the pot.
Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
No, I want to see this run so far that I want to
watch these kids grow up intoadults and have their own
children that they send off onadventures into the galaxy.
I'm done with the Skywalkersaga.
I'm done with it.
I'm done with the Skywalkersaga.
We've beaten that one to death.
We don't need it anymore.
Give me more Wim Fern, kb andNeil for the rest of my life.
(01:01:30):
I'm good.
Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
Rebels was my favorite Star Wars property.
It was at the top of my list.
Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
I like that time era.
I like that they've exploredthat time era and the Clone Wars
versus Rebels team.
Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
I am sort of team rebels because I like that it
explored its own branch yes, andI I a lot of people complained
about it and it was kind of adeal, a deal breaker for a lot
of people.
But I love the art style becauseit was a throwback to the ralph
mccorry concept art oh yeah Ilove that they did that so to me
, because they're I mean, ralphcame up with so many good
(01:02:11):
designs.
We wouldn't have Star Warswithout Ralph.
I mean, not the way that weknow it now, obviously, but you
know, to see them, to see Davego back into those archives and
grab those concepts like Zeb.
Zeb was the concept forChewbacca, right, and then we
now Zeb is his own character.
Dave rescued pocket, right, youknow.
(01:02:33):
And then we now we now zeb ishis, his own character, dave
rescued.
Dave rescued zeb from obscurityand and gave him to the world.
So that was one of the mainreasons I love rebels and it's
just, it's a damn good story.
Rebels is just a damn goodstory, oh yeah.
But now I'm saying it twoepisodes in skeleton, crew is
just bumped rebels to the numbertwo slot.
Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
All right, that's a gauntlet being laid down, folks.
I like this.
Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
It's a hot take.
So now, now, episode three isgoing to come out and it's going
to suck and I'm going to haveto like, oh, forget it.
That's it, I'm going back tothe acolyte.
Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
No, I'm going to see.
I'm actually looking forward to.
I'm going to steel city conthis weekend.
I'm looking forward to seeingBryce Dallas Howard and I want
to.
I know that she won't sayanything because, you know, good
people don't give away stuff attheir panels, but I want to
hear what she does say about theshow and if I get a chance I
just if I get that talk to her.
I want to ask her just likeokay, what can you tell me?
Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
Right, and so far it's a hit.
So far across the board, it's ahit.
There's even, like, even theone guy we don't need to talk
about him but the one guy whomakes a lot of Star Wars
theories.
You know what I'm talking aboutthat guy yeah, he likes it.
(01:03:45):
I saw a tweet that he made.
I haven't delved too much intowhat he says because I don't
really like I'll see stuff popup on my feed.
I don't follow him, but he saidthat he was able to relate to
it and it took him back to hischildhood.
So I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
So if that guy is giving it high praise, then All
right, All right, so Crash again.
Thank you, sir, so much forjoining us on our Skeleton Crew
review and, yeah, we'll see younext time.
Hey, for the new season of StarWars Safe Space, are you going
to join us?
Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
Absolutely yeah.
As soon as you're ready to roll, let me know.
Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
Right, so probably in a few weeks we'll be ready to
roll on it.
All right, right, so probablyin a few weeks we'll be ready to
roll on.
All right, crash.
Thank you so much and thank youall for joining us this week.
And, uh, we will see you nextweek with uh, with more of this.
So I'm geeking out, all right,thanks everybody.
Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
Thank you.
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