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Keandra Lewis (00:00):
Yeah, that's
exactly how Miss Make it Happen
became Miss Make it Happen.
So Miss Make it Happen becameme because just being able to
facilitate and problem solve fora lot of people.
So when they come to me hey,keandra, I'm moving to Georgia,
I need to get a house, you know,let's find some real estate.
Ok, let me do that.
(00:20):
That's how I ended up becominga real estate agent, right?
Hey, keandra, I need a jet.
You know, hey, I want to flyout, I want to fly private, I
want to get on a jet.
What does that look like?
Okay, I can figure that out,let me look at that.
Hey, keandra, I want to build abusiness.
Hey, I want to build a website.
Hey, I want to do this.
And I'm like, okay, I becomethat facilitator and I help you
guys problem solve it.
Jennifer Loehding (00:41):
So
technically, I am Miss Make it
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So today on Starter Girlz, weare talking to Keandra Lewis, a
trailblazer who's never beenafraid to carve her path.
From her early days in realestate to founding a
construction company, Keondraquickly realized how much waste
and misalignment were built intothe system.
With certifications as aproject management professional
(04:14):
and a Lean Six Sigma black belt,she's taken her passion for
efficiency and turned it into apurpose-driven venture, now
through her company Measure.
First, keandra's transformingthe pre-construction process to
bring clarity, trust and smartplanning to the forefront.
But behind the systems andstrategy is a powerful story of
(04:37):
resilience, vision and the boldmoves that got her here.
So, keandra, welcome to theshow.
I'm so excited to have you heretoday.
Keandra Lewis (04:46):
Thank you,
Jennifer.
That was amazing, that intro.
I think that was the best introever.
Jennifer Loehding (04:51):
Listen, you
know what we love intros here at
Starter Girls and I think Ishared with you in my many years
of Mary Kay.
We got really good at doingaccolades, and so you know what
there's something powerful aboutwalking on stage and hearing
you know your accomplishmentsand the things that you're doing
right.
It just makes you feel likeyou're just a badass right.
Even if you don't know if youare for that day, you are in
(05:13):
that moment.
You know what Is that me?
Keandra Lewis (05:15):
Is she like?
Jennifer Loehding (05:16):
yeah, I
actually like creating those.
I think they're a lot of funand I know all the time I was
there, it was always fun for mebecause I'd be like, wow, did I
really do that?
Like, is that for real, youknow?
So I'm glad you like it.
Yes, yes, I need to like startsending you all these.
I think you know, like afterI'm like send you, I mean be
like, here's your, youraccolades.
(05:36):
Now, next time you go on stage,here you go.
Keandra Lewis (05:38):
Yeah, we're
hiring Jennifer every time.
Jennifer Loehding (05:41):
Introduced me
, for sure I can totally be an
emcee for somebody out there.
Absolutely, I could totally dothe emceeing for a while.
So I am so glad you're heretoday to talk about your story,
your journey, what you're doing,and so I want to start this off
.
I want to talk about thisMeasure First app, because I
know this thing is something bigfor you and you're kind of in
this stage right now whereyou're trying to get it out
there in that creation stage andreally looking for investors.
(06:03):
So tell us a little bit aboutwhat that is and then we'll kind
of back this up to how you gothere.
Keandra Lewis (06:08):
Okay, perfect, so
measure first.
Basically, we found a solutionwhere we streamlined the
pre-construction bidding process.
Okay, so, obviously, backgroundin construction.
So we realized that there wasan opportunity where we need to
basically create transparencyand realistic expectations for
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both customers and contractors.
So what we've done is created acomprehensive workflow from end
to end, where it's straightfrom address input all the way,
where we provide you withprecise measurements that, once
you input your budget, itintegrates with real-time
material costs from your majorretailers in your areas, which
(06:52):
also estimates your local laborrates to give you a really good
idea what to properly planbefore starting any type of
construction project.
And so from there we're juststreamlining the process where
you can basically request aquote right at your fingertips.
(07:12):
You can send it out to nearbyprofessionals.
We're right there.
We're comparing apples toapples.
You know where we're saving ontime and resources.
So no more wasted gas, no morecoordinating site visits, no
more taking off of work.
Right there at your fingertips,you can send it over to them
based off of your budget, andthen you know you guys can make
(07:34):
an informed decision on how youwant to move forward.
Jennifer Loehding (07:37):
I like it.
I like it, streamline it.
And what's great about this isyou saw where this need kind of
comes into place.
Right, it's like you're notjust coming up with something,
you're saying okay, I've been inthis industry, I know where
this need is, and now you'recreating the solution to fill
that gap.
So I love it, right.
Keandra Lewis (07:53):
Thank you, yes.
Jennifer Loehding (07:55):
Awesome.
So I want to back it up andtalk about you, because I always
love to ask this question.
I'm like, why like real estate?
What brought you to that?
Because that's where you kindof that's what led to where you
are today, right Like there wasthese gaps, and so what brought
you to that?
Keandra Lewis (08:10):
So I've done
everything.
That's why I'm like, let's makeit happen.
But real estate was somethingthat I was introduced to in 2010
, honestly, by my son's father,because he's a licensed builder
and so, obviously, dating it'slike, hey, this is what I'm
doing, so emerging myself andhis day to day, learning more,
and I've just always been likehands on, and so got my real
(08:32):
estate license a while back andthen, obviously, was in
construction, which led me tobeing an insurance adjuster,
which brought me to Texas.
So, yeah, it's been a wholewhirlwind.
Jennifer Loehding (08:50):
It's okay.
I like the Miss Make it Happen,though you know what, and I
think that you know.
Let's talk about that because Iknow we've kind of covered this
in different episodes.
We talk about these nonlinearprogressions, right, Like really
about finding your gifts, andthe episode that I just released
yesterday is another local galhere in Dallas.
In fact, I feel like I need toconnect you two because y'all
are both miss make it happens,right, but hers, you know kind
(09:13):
of a different path.
She's also insurance, notadjuster, but in personal lines.
But her whole story was, youknow, she started a business in
college, a coffee company, andthen that led to her going into
insurance.
She got rid of that, sold thatcompany, went into insurance,
Then now is like the CEO of thisskincare company, is also an
investor and then has a podcast.
(09:34):
So she has all these differentthings that have sort of she's
built this kind of empire, right.
But I think that the behind thatis the Miss Make it Happen it's
like whatever title you want togive that, yours just happens
to be the miss make it happen,right, but whatever title that
is, is she's just a doer, amover and a shaker is what I
would say a doer, you know justthings happen gets it done, and
(09:55):
so I think the beauty in that isthat you know you're learning
different.
you are you.
You know through this processyou've learned different lessons
that you've been able, or inskill sets that you've been able
to transfer from each of thoseand bring you to where you are
today.
Keandra Lewis (10:07):
Right, Right,
yeah, it's definitely been a
journey.
You know most people.
You know most of my friends.
They've seen me grow and evolveto where I am today.
Construction, I think, has beenobviously the most lucrative.
And then also, you learnsomething every single day.
On a construction site, noproject is the same, no customer
(10:31):
is the same.
Obviously, you have systems inplace that will try to help you
make work more efficiently, butat the same time, you learn a
lesson 24-7.
I mean, I've been doing this fora while, and I mean it's
something new every single timeI've got a friend out of
Colorado that is a female.
Jennifer Loehding (10:49):
She was
actually on my other show and
she's a construction businessowner and she's actually has a
top.
Like she's been recognized forseveral awards in the Colorado I
forgot what town it's on thetip of my tongue Like it's a
known town.
It's not like one of the littleyou know cities that we don't
know about, but she's receivedseveral awards for her business.
(11:09):
You know from, like, differentorganizations.
And yeah, and she talks aboutthat.
I think the other day she gaveherself another title.
I saw I can't remember, but Isaw some posts she put up about.
Apparently she's got this titlenow too, because it's something
else in her world that's partof her construction.
So I think it goes in alignmentwith what you're saying here
(11:30):
about learning something newevery day.
Right, yeah, absolutely yeah.
And I think in entrepreneurshipyou are typically learning.
You know, if you're notlearning every day, I'm not sure
what you're doing.
Keandra Lewis (11:45):
I mean people ask
me I'm like learning is one of
my favorite learning.
Every day I'm not sure whatyou're doing.
I mean people ask me I'm likelearning is one of my favorite
things to do.
I'm in R&D 24-7.
I've been in so many differentindustries, I have so many
different certifications andthat's all because I really, I
really enjoy learning or atleast getting a level of
understanding of what you'regetting into it.
You know, to be able to likespecifically, just like for
(12:05):
project management or likeprocess improvement, you have to
still have a level ofunderstanding before you can
oversee and kind of instruct.
You know people to do whatneeds to be done.
You know, I think, as aneffective leader in a sense.
Jennifer Loehding (12:21):
So yeah, so
do you have some more
certifications that you didn'tput in that bio?
Do you have some more things,more smart things we don't know
about over there?
Keandra Lewis (12:31):
That's a lot.
Look, I've done a lot of things.
Jennifer Loehding (12:37):
Hey, I'm the
same way.
That's why we can laugh aboutthis too.
Like people look at my that'swhy I listen, karen my name,
like if you go look at my Idon't know if I gave you my
actual card, but it says successarchitect on it because I have
all these different likecertifications that I can do and
so I'm just like man.
Maybe I just need to be like.
I met, like let me back this upI had a gal on my podcast years
(12:59):
ago is on, I think, behind thedreamers and she had been in
like real estate and investing,she had all these different
things and she said she went tosomething and somebody was like
we're not reading all of thisbio, like they were going to
have to do an accolade thing andthey're like we're not reading
all this, so we're just going tocall you a lifestyle expert or
something like that, right yeah.
And I'm like that's kind of likewhere my success architect
(13:21):
comes from.
Because, like I was tellingsomeone the other day, I'm like
okay, so I'm like keto carnivoreand supplement certified so I
can technically coach somebodyon that.
I can do protein sparing,modified fasting, I can teach
people how to do that.
I'm certified in all that andI'm certified in nervous system
training, but then I'm alsocertified in life coaching.
(13:43):
You know, like I have differentthings that I can do and so
that's why I'm like yeah, I meanit's okay, it's good, it means
you like to learn and that's whyI do.
It is really I just I'm a, Ilike I'm a student of my work,
so I continue to keep learningfor myself, but also because
when I find things that arereally good, then I feel like I
can help other people with thattoo.
Keandra Lewis (14:05):
Yeah, but I
definitely like the whole
success architect.
So most of us use the wordconsulting, right to try to
narrow down all the things thatwe do, Right, but success
architect I think that'sdefinitely using that word.
You can be like a success mavena success diva.
Or I, like your Miss, make ithappen, I mean, but you know
(14:27):
what, honestly, I've gotten somepushback from miss make it
happen, miss make it happen.
You know, some people kind ofdon't like or have advised the
serial entrepreneur and I meanthis is kind of like going down
a rabbit hole but kind of likethat insecurity of going into
rooms because you were like,okay, I don't know exactly.
(14:48):
You know, I do know how to dothis, I do know how to do this
and at this point I just want tobe a value add in some shape,
form or fashion.
You know how can I, you know,add value to your life?
But at the same time, I do haveexperience in working in
epidemiology, I do haveexperience working in technology
and real estate and insuranceand you know all of those
(15:10):
different, different fact,different industries, right, and
so when you're going into aroom and you're saying, because
I actually dealt with this forthe last, really, all my life.
No, I believe it.
Yeah, but just narrowing myfocus in the last two years,
where I said Keandra, you knowwhat?
When you introduce yourself,the only thing you say is
(15:31):
construction.
I don't care what it is thatthey're talking about in the
room, what it is that they'redoing, the only thing that I'm
going to say is construction.
I will say it has definitelychanged my income because a lot
of people look at it as you're asubject matter expert in this.
(15:51):
You can't be great in all ofthese different things and not
understanding that God can trulybless you to have gifts, to be
multifaceted Right and peopleoftentimes use that that quote.
You know jack of all trades,you know master of none and you
know they don't finish off thestatement and understanding that
you know people can be great ata lot of different things.
(16:14):
You know, especially if you putin the effort, you put in the
time, the learning, you reallycan be a serial entrepreneur.
So yeah, that's a whole.
Jennifer Loehding (16:27):
You raise
some really good points here
because, like you that is itI've struggled with this too,
and you know and we can talkabout this for a few minutes
because I think somebody youknow somebody may be listening
to this may cross this path.
It doesn't I mean it could be aguy or a woman may cross this
path.
It doesn't I mean it could be,it could be a guy or a woman may
cross this path in the spacewhere they are talented in a lot
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of areas, right, and I think alot of creators, entrepreneurs,
I think a lot of us are in thatspace where, yes, we can do a
lot of things and we do have tokind of niche down what we're
doing.
But I think there's a couple ofthings to say about this One.
I think this is whyconversations are so important,
right?
This?
Because if you're coming from aspace of where you probably
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really enjoy helping people andyou probably really enjoy having
knowledge and you probablyreally enjoy trying to find
connections for people, ways tosolve problems, right, I'm, I'm,
I'm going to say that for me,but I'm going to be sat down and
talked, and so I'm kind of sofor our audience.
We've talked outside of this.
(17:32):
So that's fine.
But here's the thing I'velearned that, yes, you do have
to have a core thing right, likeand for you, yes, the
construction may be the bigthing and you might be able to
fill in some other areas in thatright, like, hey, I've got real
estate people, I know knowledgeabout that, I know knowledge
about the building process,right, that's kind of what I do,
too, and I will tell you what Ihad to do, and this is kind of
(17:53):
why I came up with the successarchitect thing.
I had to go in and do all thatbecause I was doing the same
thing.
I'm going in, okay, do I focuson my keto coaching?
Do I focus on my health side,which is what the part that I'm
really passionate about?
Do I focus on the businesscoaching, which that's my
background for 22 years?
Do I focus on the wellness, thelifestyle, because that's
really so.
(18:13):
What I really got in did is Iwent through all of those pieces
and I started going, okay,what's the common thread between
all of those things?
And the common thread iseverybody's trying to make
change in those areas, butthey're all stuck right.
Everybody's stuck in thoseareas.
So then, what I did is Ibackpedaled that and I developed
a system for how to get themunstuck in those areas.
(18:37):
So now all the common piecesthat I can do are out there and
I don't have to lead with anyone of those.
What I can lead with is hey, Ihave a four-step system to help
you make transformation in theareas that you're trying to make
the transformation, sobasically help things stick.
So, whether you're trying tolose weight, you're trying to
get healthy, you're trying toget your business up and running
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, you're trying.
I have a system for helping youwork through that and actually
making the thing sustainable.
And so I think yes to your point.
We do have to find what we canlead with so that we can be
cohesive, right, and we can sitdown and you become the expert
in your area, and so thank youfor saying that.
(19:19):
But I also want to commend you,because I think it's okay to be
smart and be talented and beable to have these strengths.
You're obviously a quicklearner and you pick up on
things and you like it and so,girl, there's nothing wrong with
it.
Keandra Lewis (19:35):
Like, yeah,
that's exactly how Miss Make it
Happen became Miss Make itHappen.
So Miss Make it Happen becameme because just being able to
facilitate and problem solve fora lot of people.
So when they come to me, hey,keandra, oh, I need, I'm moving
(19:57):
to Georgia, I need to get ahouse, I, you know, let's find
some real estate.
Okay, let me do that.
That's how I ended up becominga real estate agent.
You know, hey, keandra, I needto a jet.
You know, hey, I want to flyout.
I want to fly private.
I want to get on a jet.
What does that look like?
Okay, I can figure that out.
Let me look at that.
Hey, keandra, I want to build abusiness.
(20:17):
Hey, I want to build a website.
Hey, I want to do this.
And I'm like, okay, I becomethat facilitator and I help you
guys problem solve it.
So technically I am Miss Makeit Happy and my coworkers at EBS
they'll laugh.
Sophia, she called me Special K, so that was my name for a
while.
I love it, I love it.
Special K, but it's just likeyou know, being able to take the
(20:39):
initiative to help people out,because I do understand what
it's like to not have thatsupport or, you know, not be
able to have that resource to beable to pick up the phone and
say, hey, you know I need this.
What do you think about that?
You know so.
Jennifer Loehding (20:52):
Yeah, and I
think you get.
You get into those places whenpeople know you can solve
problems, and then you like theother day I was like, oh my gosh
, now I need to like create likea little podcast package, cause
I get a lot of people that areasking me how to build podcasts
and then I end up spending timeon the phone.
You know, what do you thinkabout this?
Help with this, and I'm likeyou know what we need to like.
Just create like a littlepackage, you know, like a little
(21:14):
coaching package, like fromstart to finish, like concept to
production package, so I canhelp you get that going that way
.
I'm not spending time doing allthese free calls.
You know I just you become goodat a lot of different things,
that people call you for thisand that and you just realize
I'm like man.
Some of this stuff I'm like.
You know there's something tobe said about it.
(21:41):
I think it's.
You know what I would use forthe word for you is probably
industrious, meaning you figuredthings out.
Because you have to figurethings out and then you learn by
doing that.
Right and so some of us, I think, are inclined to just naturally
, whereas I think some peoplemay just pick up the phone and
be like help.
You know, some of us are likeI'm going to go try to figure
that out.
I'll call you if I need help.
Right, and so I tend to workthat way where I don't need you
to help me unless I ask.
Keandra Lewis (22:02):
I'm going to go.
Jennifer Loehding (22:03):
Try to figure
it out first.
Keandra Lewis (22:04):
And then if.
Jennifer Loehding (22:05):
I can't.
I have no problem picking upthe phone or reaching out saying
help, you know Right.
Keandra Lewis (22:14):
There's power in
that, I guess, in that finding
out, you know, yeah, and it's sowhat you just said about like
free calls, right.
So in this last, so everythingthat's been happening thus far
is 100 percent through the HolySpirit and I'm just 100 percent
being obedient and through thistransition and journey, with us
launching Measure First well,you know, activating Measure
(22:36):
First for us to go live nextyear, he's been revealing a lot
of things about a lot of peopleto me, specifically about people
having access to me and beingMiss, make it Happen and doing
things for free and on the whimand just because I am the nice
person, but then in exchange,when you need them, or then you
(23:00):
also even say, hey, I can dothis, but I'm going to charge
you this amount because this ismy time and this is actually a
business that I run.
And then they're kind of like,oh, but why?
You know, why am I?
You know, why should I give youthe money?
Or not necessarily why, butthey just don't, they.
They try to find some type ofalternative.
And then your friends you willconsider them friends, obviously
(23:23):
, if they have access to you,because you've built
relationships with them, orassociates in a sense and
they'll go pay somebody else toget the same exact information
that they know.
They may or may not even havethe same quality that you're
providing, but for whateverreason, because you've been
doing this for so long, for sofree, and people having access
(23:43):
and leveraging you, and all ofthe things now it's like okay.
But now I'm at a point where Ido I understand my worth at this
point, you know, I do Iunderstand my worth at this
point, you know.
And now it is a monetary value,because time is money, you know
, and you're even giving them toit at a fraction of the cost
and they're still like, no, butI really just don't want to pay
(24:07):
you.
I could pay somebody else, butI just don't want to pay you.
Jennifer Loehding (24:10):
It's like the
dots are not connecting yet.
You know what I'm saying.
Like they're not seeing.
It's almost like when I thinkabout, like when you're, you're
growing and people are not likequite, you know, growing with
you.
They don't see you this way.
They still see you this way.
So it's hard for them to makethat, that transition from here
to here.
You know, when all the years Iwas in Mary Kay, we used to
always say that you never getrich off friends and family.
Keandra Lewis (24:32):
And.
Jennifer Loehding (24:32):
I, you know,
I so true, so true, because
honestly they will be thehardest people to deal with
because they want discounts,they want free, they don't want
to pay what you're worth.
You'll run all over the placetrying to take care Like I would
.
You know, I immediately when Iwent into Mary Kay and I'm not
saying my, you know my momdidn't support me and some of my
family, but I, immediately whenI went into that, knew that I
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needed to get out of thatfriends and family zone quickly,
like find people.
And even now it's still like I Ilove meeting people, like we
network a lot and I love meetingpeople in networks and I have
no problem like bartering withpeople if we find a way to
really work together.
But I don't ever want to getinto that kind of situation
where that's an owing kind ofthing, because I just don't ever
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see that come end up coming outas a win-win in the end,
because somebody ends up givingmore than the other person and
it just it ends up, and so Ijust hesitate, like when people
start doing this well, you dothis for me and I'll do that for
you, you know, cause then thelines get blurred because we're
friends and now this and thisand this and this I'm like well,
(25:37):
wait a minute, like, my time ismoney, you know, your time is
money, you know.
And again, I don't think we'resaying here we don't want to
help, because I think we do.
I think, that's been ourproblem, probably in this be
nice is that we are overlyhelping to people and then we
have to make when we try to drawthat line.
Sometimes it becomes an issue,because now we're saying, okay,
(25:58):
I've done enough, now I'm goingto have to at this point start
charging, or at least, or Ican't keep doing what.
Keandra Lewis (26:06):
I'm doing Right,
you know right, Right,
Absolutely.
Jennifer Loehding (26:11):
Yeah, Good
stuff, that's good.
Thank you for sharing thatCause.
I think that's importantbecause I do think a lot of
times, you know, when we're inbusiness, we do get into that
and not quite understanding wefeel guilty for, for not wanting
to.
You know some people, they'refine, they're like no, I'm not,
that's.
You call them up.
You're like dude, okay, mycharge is this.
And you're like oh, yeah, andthen we're over here going.
(26:33):
Do we want to do that?
Or like how much do we want tocharge?
Should we stay this?
Keandra Lewis (26:38):
you know, and my
friend broke it down easily,
just like you said, boundaries,because boundaries actually have
been my word this year.
But identifying me being niceversus kind, he was like it's a
difference, keandra.
Nice people, they get takenadvantage of, they get
manipulated, they, you know allof the things versus kind people
, you know they have thoseboundaries where they are
(26:59):
respected, you know, and so itis what it is, and it's not
necessarily that you're beingmean, you know, but at the same
time you're just letting themknow like, hey, this is what it
is, you know, this is what Ibring to the table and this is
what it's going to cost at thismoment, and it's just only right
.
Jennifer Loehding (27:18):
Yeah, yeah.
So I want to ask you kind of afun question.
I haven't asked this questionin a while, but I want to ask
you this because I think thistalks a lot about the character,
because I like you, I thinkyou're such a fun person and
you're beautiful and you justgot great energy and you're just
doing things, and I thinkthat's what we need more of in
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the world is people that arejust doing great things.
And that's why I love this show, because I get to find all of
you guys, you know, find youpeople that are doing cool
things.
I would love to know, you know,if there was maybe like
something from your childhoodlike that inspired you to be an
entrepreneur, or did you justkind of?
Did you always want to be anentrepreneur?
Was there a role model?
Was there anything that justsort of kind of came your way
(28:00):
and gave you the signal?
Keandra Lewis (28:05):
I honestly, you
know I will continue to say I'm
spiritual so I just follow him,whatever it is that he wants me
to do.
I mean, I will say as a childI've always had that mentality,
anything you can do.
Jennifer Loehding (28:23):
I can do
better, in a sense Like so hey,
you want to play sports.
Wasn't that like a show or a?
Keandra Lewis (28:25):
song or something
.
Anything you can do, I can dobetter.
Jennifer Loehding (28:28):
Yeah, wasn't
that like a kid show or
something?
I feel like it might've beenstuff like one of my kids was
watching or something.
Keandra Lewis (28:33):
I can imagine it
kind of like being on a plane.
No, you can't.
Yes, I can.
No, you can't.
Yes, I can no but I like it.
Yes, but I think always havingthat mentality like, okay, I'm
going to play sports, I'm goingto cook, I'm going to do this,
you know, I just want to kind oflike be better, and I think
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with entrepreneurship it justcame with seeing the opportunity
where I just saw myself doingsomething better than this, or
you know just younger.
I've always had a job, since Iwas 14 years old, to be able to
take care of certain things.
(29:15):
And so when it's getting intothe corporate environment, you
know, seeing the opportunitywhere it's like, you know,
you're on these calls withpeople and then we're
outsourcing companies, Right, sothey don't work necessarily for
the company.
So say, for instance, HomeDepot, they may not work they're
not a Home Depot employee butthey are a contractor for Home
Depot.
They may not work they're not aHome Depot employee, but
they're a contractor for HomeDepot and they're actually
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getting paid more money than W-2employee, you know.
And so you're like well, shouldI do W-2 where I get these
benefits and you know, obviouslyit has its benefits and pros,
you know?
Or should I just outsourcemyself where people hire me and
then I get more revenue, youknow, for doing the exact same
(29:56):
same thing, you know?
But then obviously there islimits and then I kind of make
my own rules and then there'smore room to negotiate, and so I
guess that's where I kind oflike saw the opportunity for
entrepreneurship, yeah.
So, yeah, that's how it started.
Jennifer Loehding (30:13):
Yeah, you got
a practical streak in there,
because you're thinkinglogically.
You're like look, how do I bethe most effective?
Right, like how do I make themost money and be the most
effective, which I think most ofus really want to be that way,
right, like I just built outthis, that whole success block
quiz that I was directingeverybody to, that's linked to a
program that I just built.
(30:34):
That's not an expensive program, but it's thorough and the
whole idea of it is how to makemore money and reclaim more of
your time, because, as businessowners, most of us that's what
we want.
We want to work, we want to beeffective in what we do, we want
to be able to do the things wewant to do and make more money.
Right, and so.
I built that program out withthe mindset that go back to the
(30:55):
four steps I was telling youabout.
Right, I built that program outwith the mindset that it wasn't
just about changing one or twothings.
It's really going back to thebelief systems of why we're
continuing to do what we'redoing.
We're not setting things inplace to create that kind of
structure in our lives, right,right, because, especially for
women I don't know you know, Ican't speak for men because I'm
(31:17):
not a man, but I can speak fromworking years in Mary Kay with
women A lot of us struggled withthese just belief systems that
we had, you know, asking forwhat we're worth and not
discounting.
Now, mary Kay, we couldn't.
We could discount things, butthings had set products, kind of
.
But we could still make, likeyou know, give coupons and
(31:38):
things like that.
And I've realized, even likewhen I first started moving into
coaching, that was something Iwrestled with.
I had to work through thatwhole headspace of being, okay,
asking for the price that I want, right, but also creating
systems.
Because when you come from aplace of like we were talking a
while ago about the boundarieswhen you're setting those things
up right for yourself, right,you're not as resentful and you
(32:03):
show up kinder being nice, youknow?
Keandra Lewis (32:07):
Yeah, I don't
know.
Jennifer Loehding (32:09):
We kind of
went off on a rabbit hole here,
but anyways, the whole idea thatwas really about, you know,
getting creating that systemwhere being logical and creating
that system where you can havemore money and be more effective
in your time.
Keandra Lewis (32:22):
Right.
And just to add to that, evenwith entrepreneurship it's more
so, like, if you can bet onyourself, if I can bet on me, if
I'm betting on me, then I, youknow, I know I can make it
happen, you know for sure,versus it being the other way.
So that's really, I guess, aleading factor of
entrepreneurship too.
Like, okay, let's do lifeinsurance.
(32:44):
Yeah, if I can do, you know,all I have to do is talk to this
many people and sell this manycontracts and I can make this
money.
Great, obviously, that'samazing.
Or just the mindset of justreally trying to improve things.
I believe in working hard smart, not hard, you know, but we do
have to work hard too but juststreamlining workflows, so yeah,
(33:04):
yeah, no there, and there aremoments we do have to work hard.
Jennifer Loehding (33:07):
I think
that's where that harmony comes
in right.
Like we recognize that there aretimes that you do have to work
hard so that you can have timeswhere you don't right.
So it's not about ever sayingthis is an easy journey, but I
think it's about being effectiveand working smart and
recognizing.
I really like that, or let'ssay recognizing that there's
going to be pitfalls, but mybrain's just going all over with
what you said.
(33:27):
But really like that.
You said taking a chance onyourself having, and I think
that comes back to having thatfaith right.
Taking a chance on yourselfhaving, and I think that comes
back to having that faith right,having the faith to say that
I'm going to bet on myself.
There's probably going to besetbacks and things I don't like
and risk and all of those goodthings, but I'm willing to take
that on because I'm betting onmyself that I can actually
overcome that.
(33:47):
Right, right.
I think it's a great mentalitythat transfer first outside of
business, that transfers in lifeperiod and I mean it's, it's
definite 1000%.
Keandra Lewis (34:00):
It's been
struggles, it's been ups and
downs, it's been, you know, noincome at times.
It's been it's it's been verychallenging.
It's been very hard.
I probably started like fivedifferent businesses and trying
to figure it out.
And one thing that I reallylove about measure first and you
know, some of my friends, theykind of give me like, oh my God,
kendra, I can see the growth.
(34:21):
I can see that you're reallyjust laser focused on it,
because, being a careerist and Idon't know if it's just an
careerist thing that we're justsuper creative, innovative we
get bored very, very, veryeasily, you know.
So we're always looking at thenext thing.
Oh, ok, this didn't work, OK,let's jump to the next thing,
let's figure that out.
And that's been my story for awhile, you know.
(34:42):
Yeah, at the same time, withMeasure First, I feel like when
I say that literally this wasled by the Holy Spirit as far as
like even giving me the vision,you know, when I was actually
creating another app.
So AI came out.
You know I'm chat, gpt-ing itup.
(35:02):
I'm actually writing a book atthis point, you know, trying to
get book out.
I'm actually writing doing thisother app and it was called
like Screen Door, so kind oflike similar to Glassdoor, but
in reverse.
So Glassdoor is about employeesyou look them up and all the
things, but in reverse.
So Glassdoor is about employeesyou look them up and all the
things.
But then Screen Door was goingto do the reverse, where you can
do it actually on employees,right?
(35:24):
So you got to give them areview on the employees, so
before you not going throughtheir resume, but anyways.
So November 2023, we wereworking on Glassdoor.
And then, from working onGlassdoor, at four o'clock in
the morning, because I'm talkingto my team in India, this
vision came to mind and I'm like, oh, boom, this is great.
(35:47):
You know, because, remember,for the last two years, all I've
been saying is construction,construction, construction.
So I'm like, oh, this alignsexactly what I'm talking.
You know what I'm doing on aday to day.
And then also, this is just 100percent a need, because
typically we deal with thechampagne taste, on beer budgets
, you know, going out tomultiple site visits, all the
things.
I'm like, oh, this is, this isawesome.
(36:08):
But what I will say is, withthis journey and
entrepreneurship is fully likerelinquishing myself and giving
it to God.
You know what I'm saying when Isay giving it to him, where I
know for a fact that he willprovide you with all of your
needs, all of your resources.
(36:29):
If this is something that he'ssupposed to, that's your purpose
, right?
If you're truly walking in yourpurpose entrepreneurship or
whatever the goal he willprovide you with all of those
things.
And thus far, I mean, I'm notgoing to say this journey has
been easy, but it's definitelybeen more promising, right, with
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limited resources, capitalbeing one of the things where
you're bootstrapping everysingle thing and so you're
depleted and you're tapped outof all that.
God has provided me with everysingle thing, every single step
to me, creating my own Figma appscreen designs, where he
literally was like well, yeah,literally was like hey, keandra,
I was sitting down on a Sunday,I was waiting on my team to
(37:14):
give me these app screen designs.
He was like Keandra, go figureit out.
I got up, did some research and12 hours later, I had 31 Figma
designs.
And I am not a Figma person,I'm not a graphic designer, none
of those things.
But he literally led me andthose things were completed.
(37:34):
You know, and that's why when Isay like betting on myself.
You know, those are some of thethings that you, you go back to
like, hey, I am not, uh, eventhough I was certified for a
master's, so that's anothercertification, but I am not a
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graphic designer, I am not adeveloper, I'm not a coder, any
of those things.
But he provided me with theresources thanks to our
wonderful AI.
Ai is amazing.
It got done.
But one of the things that Iwanted to do differently and how
I know that Measure First iscompletely, totally different
than any other business orentrepreneur journey that I've
(38:17):
ever experienced before.
It's like, you know, because Iwant to be, I want to be able to
hear him, you know, and inhearing him, you get.
You have to isolate, you know,you get isolated those people
who were having access where myphone was ringing at 24.
I mean, my phone rings all thetime, right, but my phone has
(38:39):
slowed down a lot, specificallybecause that they're not aligned
with where I'm going and whereI'm transitioning to.
And in entrepreneurship, I knowfor a fact that you need
community, you need support, andthen you have to have the
desire and the willingness tolearn and grow.
(39:01):
I've become a grant writer.
I've learned how to do grants.
I've learned how to do.
I'm a lawyer at this pointbecause I've done my patent,
copyright, all of this stuff andthis is all I feel like I'm
doing that right now, too,because I'm going around with my
trademark right now Like I'mfighting over a.
Jennifer Loehding (39:21):
I'm fighting
around on my trademark right now
and having an attorney and Ifeel like I'm having.
I'm like messaging the attorneyand being like are you looking
at this?
Are you looking at this?
Like these people that I'mfighting with haven't produced
any content in life.
I'm not fighting with them, butthe whole thing that is a
bottleneck is over a companythat hasn't produced any content
since like 2017, 18.
(39:42):
And I'm like, seriously,Seriously, yeah.
Keandra Lewis (39:47):
I get it, I get
it, and it's frustrating at
times, you know.
Jennifer Loehding (39:53):
Yeah, I think
what I'm hearing from you is
just being you're listening to a, to a higher calling, and you
know and I talk about that in inmy life coaching you know we
always talk about this higherpower, whatever that is for
anybody listening to thisEverybody, not in this alone
that it's requiring a highersource to help you.
(40:15):
And you're being in tune andyou're open and I cause I think
you know you could say all daylong that you're hearing
something, but you're putting itinto action and I think that
takes a willingness to say I'mnot giving up, I'm going to keep
looking for what I need to makethings happen.
You know, I just think thereare some people that get up and
that's their mindset.
(40:35):
You know, like I don't knowabout you, kendra, but I have a
really hard time not looking forsolutions.
So when I go into something, ifsomebody tells me something
can't be done, I immediately amlike I'm going to check that for
myself.
I'm immediately I'm alreadydone with you.
I'm already done you can tell methat and you may be right in
(40:56):
the end, but I'm going to goresearch before I accept that,
because I want to know formyself that this can't be done,
because I think there's a lot ofpeople in the world that quit
very quickly.
They hear something and theystop.
And I've been this and for me.
I've been this way with myhealth, I've been this way with
my everything relation,everything.
I am like this with it to meand I will also go with until
(41:20):
you can tell me a hundredpercent something can't be done
and I, if I want to do it, I maydo it.
Keandra Lewis (41:27):
Yeah, I love that
.
That.
That's the same with me.
That's the, that's the exactfighter.
Jennifer Loehding (41:34):
It's that
fighter.
I don't know what it is, Idon't know why we're like that,
I don't know.
But it's resourceful because itallows us to get things done.
It allows us to go into asituation and see opportunity,
Instead of walking into asituation and already feeling
there's no way out, no way to doanything differently.
We can go into a situation andbe like okay, what's going on
(41:57):
here and what's our options?
What's our options?
Right?
Keandra Lewis (42:01):
There's more than
one Right.
Jennifer Loehding (42:02):
You know
whereas some people may only see
one, we see a couple, you knowlike.
We see maybe two or threedifferent things we can try here
.
You haven't told me thisdoesn't work.
You haven't told me thatdoesn't work.
Have we tried this?
Have we tried that?
Keandra Lewis (42:14):
And then, if it's
just not there, then we create
the opportunity.
That's the entrepreneur, that'sthe serial entrepreneur, oh,
okay.
Well, we don't have that yet.
I think that this will be agreat product, because I know
that there's somebody else outthere other than thyself, that
will need the same exact orlooking for the same kind of
solution.
Jennifer Loehding (42:33):
So I agree, I
agree, I love it, girl.
Well, I want to ask you onefinal question before I ask you
where people can find you.
If you were to describe Keandrain a couple words, what would
you say about yourself?
This is a fun one.
I haven't asked this one in along time, but I want to ask you
this one what, how many wordsyou can do.
Keandra Lewis (42:52):
As many as you
want, do as many.
Um, if I had to describet'yandra, I would say supportive
, loyal, dependable I see allthis um, I would say nice,
(43:20):
you're nice.
You're actually all of me.
I see that in all of you.
Jennifer Loehding (43:30):
But I also
have another one.
I think you're not afraid toget your hands dirty.
I think you're willing to dowhat you got.
I think you have grit.
You have grit and tenacity andI think those are just.
I think that when you have gritand tenacity, you've got like a
lot, I'm going to get the jobdone, type of moment.
Keandra Lewis (43:44):
I will say that
my guys laugh at me sometimes
because, like, if we're doing ajob and so they'd be like you
know, boss, lady or whatever thecase may be and I come in and
this is like the final countdown.
You know we have to get out ofhere, give these people their
keys.
As I'm in here, I'm like maybedoing some lights, putting some
silicone around some stuff, andthey're like what are you doing?
(44:06):
We got to get this stuff done,I'd be in there.
Jennifer Loehding (44:10):
Give me the
stuff, give me the stuff, let's
go, we got to get out of here.
Keandra Lewis (44:12):
Come on, let's go
.
We're a team and that's aboutteamwork, you know.
Jennifer Loehding (44:17):
Yeah, and I
think great leaders are willing
to get in when they need to getin.
Great leaders jump in with theteam when they need to get in
the trenches with them.
You know what I mean, if you'restanding back there and just
bossing everybody around,telling everybody what to do.
How do you even know whatthey're going'd be like?
(44:41):
Let's just you know.
Let's create a win-win.
We got to get everybody happyhere.
What do we need to do to makethis situation right?
If I need to jump in, I'mjumping in.
Right, let's get it done.
I love it.
So I wanted to throw thoseextra few words in there,
because I haven't asked thatquestion in a while, but I think
it's fun because it you knowit's.
we don't always take time to go.
You know, like if you had towalk into an interview and say
you know what are your, what doyou feel like your strengths,
what are you good at?
Sometimes people struggle withthis, like they go in and
(45:03):
they're like I don't know whatto say.
And I'm like if you had to walkin to talk to an employer, what
would you say to them If theysaid tell us what you're great
at.
Anyways, but yeah, I love whatyou're doing, girl, and I'm
excited to see you get thisthing up and rolling.
And I actually, as we're sittinghere talking, have somebody
else I feel like I need toconnect you with that went
(45:23):
through the whole investingstage that I need.
I know we talked about somebodyelse, but I need to make
another connection with you.
So you need to remind me I haveanother person for you, but for
our audience today that islistening to this.
If they want to get in touchwith you maybe they want to I
don't know follow you.
They want to find out whatyou're doing.
Keep up with this.
Maybe they got interest ininvesting in this app.
(45:43):
I don't know.
How do they find you?
Where do they go?
Keandra Lewis (45:46):
Yes, so they can
simply go to our website at
wwwTheMeasureFirstAppcom.
I encourage everybody to go toour website so they can learn
more about Measure First.
And then also, what isextremely important to me and
it's actually free sign up.
Sign up on our website so thatyou can be a part of our beta
(46:10):
testing.
So right now, that's extremelyimportant.
So obviously it builds thecredibility as we are currently
fundraising.
You know we are currentlyfundraising.
You know we are looking forangel investors, for people who
want longevity.
We have great returns.
So I will encourage everybodyto go to our website.
Again, that'swwwTheMeasureFirstAppcom.
(46:31):
Check us out, sign up on ourwebsite.
Also, if you want to, please goto our YouTube.
This is also about creatingbrand awareness and our
credibility as well.
Go to our YouTube at MeasureFirst.
That's one word.
Go to Measure First.
Look at our concept video Share, subscribe.
We'll have a lot of contentcoming out as we're looking to
(46:53):
go live February 2026.
So next year we'll go live.
We'll have that here for youguys to be able to use.
Jennifer Loehding (47:01):
Yeah, Fun,
all right.
Well, we'll make sure that whenwe get the show notes together,
we'll get the websites in thereso they know where to find you
and all that good stuff, sowe'll make sure they know how to
get to you.
So this has been so much fun.
I'm so glad that I got to meetyou and we got to get you know,
have you on here and chat andtell your story and I, you know,
wish you continued success onthis journey, and I know it's
(47:22):
not an easy path to do, butyou're like you're, miss, make
it Happen.
So you're going to make ithappen.
Keandra Lewis (47:26):
Yes, together we
win, together we all win.
You know, I agree, I agree yes.
Jennifer Loehding (47:32):
And, of
course, to our audience.
We hope you found this episodeboth inspiring and informative
and if you do, you know what todo.
Go, do all the things likeshare, subscribe, comment, so
that we can keep supporting themission and sharing these
fabulous stories.
And, as I always say, in orderto live the extraordinary, you
must start.
And what does every start beginwith?
A decision.
(47:52):
You guys, take care, be safe,be kind to one another and we
will see you next time.