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I am back with my guest, Samirafrom episode 37 and today we are
doing some old fashioned namedropping.
Most of all, we are having fun.
We are exploring the unexpectedplaces that education takes you
as an expect woman, but there isa big takeaway for every living
soul that comes straight fromthe heart.
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So keep listening till the end.
welcome to starting over in theUSA, the Expat Woman's Guide to
overcoming homesickness,embracing cultural differences,
and creating a new home awayfrom home.
On this podcast, we talk aboutleaving behind the familiar, you
know, the pangs of homesicknessand culture shock to the
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journeys of reinventingyourself.
I'm Yolanda Reshemah.
And after relocating six times,I know firsthand what it's like
to start from scratch, feelinglike both a foreign child and a
foreign adult in a new world.
I'm reaching here to tell you alittle, a degree that I took
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where it took me.
That's, yeah, that's my point.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
So when the Congress went toJordan they invited my cousin to
come to the prayer breakfast,the national prayer Breakfast.
There is a presidentialbreakfast in Washington, DC.
That the president on the firstThursday of February, oh yes,
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yes, of course.
I do know about that.
Yeah, so, so I belong to that.
Oh, you do.
yeah.
So what happened is they invitedmy cousin, then my cousin told
them, oh, I really want you toinvite, give them my name, my
address, to invite me to theprayer breakfast.
my cousin in Jordan had theshipping agency.
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He had so much respect for mebecause of what I accomplished
and that I came here.
I finished my degree, so I wasvery high in his eyes that he
gave my name to Congress and theSenate to be invited to
Washington with him at theprayer breakfast.
So I received the invitation.
It was the year 2000.
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Okay.
First invitation, and I wentthere with my husband and my
cousin from Jordan.
They seat you with presidents ofthe countries like Albania,
Romania, uh, Serbia, France,England.
So this is where they seated uswith one congressman with us.
You just said, ah, what's goingon here?
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It's just huge event with lotsof presidents of the world.
I mean, 130, 160 countries willbe there, and they're all the
governors, the presidents, thekings, I mean, all that caliber.
So amazing that I saw myselfamong all those people.
Yes.
And this is all because of youreducation.
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If I didn't have that degree, Iwouldn't be nowhere.
That's my point in the wholestory.
Education.
And ever since that time, I, uh,I've been invited every year.
Oh, you are?
For 25 years.
I'm still going there.
So what I developed there goodfriendship internationally.
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So while I was there.
God opened another door for meto be involved in the breast
cancer.
This pink stamp that you buyfrom them?
I was involved in thatinternationally to implement the
cancer stamp overseas Mm-hmm.
With the doctor that he founded,that stamp.
Mm-hmm.
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Someone gave him my name to helphim internationally.
I was just about to say Samira,your name is well known.
You have all the rightconnections.
Yeah, I, you know, that's all,go back to that degree that I
took.
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Mm-hmm.
And that opened the door for me.
Okay.
I get to meet Princess Catherineof Serbia and Prince Alexander
of Serbia.
Mm-hmm.
That this is another side story.
Maybe I should let you about it.
No, I want to hear it.
You want, want hear?
That's an interesting story.
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I was invited to the CedarHouse, which is the government
house for dinner with someofficials there, and one of them
was Princess Catherine andPrince Alexander.
and Princess Catherine and thefirst lady of Macedonia, they
want to have the breast cancerstamp established in their
country.
So we have to travel with thedoctor for cancer awareness two
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days of lecturing cancerprevention From early detection.
Yes I have pictures if you evercome to my house, I'll show you
all those pictures.
Okay.
Early in the morning we flew toSerbia and this is Princess
Catherine, plus Alexander arewaiting for us in their cars.
One of us was grace Nelson who?
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Her husband Bill Nelson.
He was the congressman fromFlorida and he was the
astronaut.
Accompany us here from America,and we were sitting on the table
breakfast.
We were sitting there and PrinceAlexander, he had the list of
names in front of him as gueststo the palace because he has to
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know all the names.
Mm-hmm.
And he said, Samira Kawa.
I said, yes, it's me.
And he looked at me, he said, Imet a man in Jordan.
At King Hussein Palace.
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And he was invited with us.
King Hussein invited him fordinner and I didn't jump and say
he's my brother.
I just kept quiet.
Grace Nelson, she said, oh,maybe this is family.
He kept saying, no, no, no, no.
Then I jumped in, Is his nameSamir Kwar?
That's it.
That's it.
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That's it.
Yes.
Yes.
His name is Samir Kawar.
And I start to describe to himthe house and about all the
mutual friends there, Oh mygosh.
I was stunned.
but he kept talking and askingme questions, this and that.
That kept me going.
And then after we left at dinnertime, there was two cars waiting
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for us.
so this man came and he knockedat my shoulder, he said.
Um, princess Catherine, shewants me to go there.
In her car and, and ride intheir car.
Oh, how lovely.
So I rode in their car back andforth and treat being treated,
you know, royalty.
Wow.
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Moving to the US has worked outfor you in the most exquisite
and successful way imaginable.
Prayer breakfast turned into thecancer awareness project and
then became this incrediblegateway to international
advocacy and unexpected royalfriendships.
You've experienced what so manypeople have not.
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Is it even possible that therecould be any regrets at all?
No.
At the beginning it wasdifficult.
It wasn't easy, but as I startto progress in my life doing
something.
Always I do something, but I wasinvolved in too many things in
my life and the trust of thepeople, you know, being truthful
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is very important.
When you say truthful in whatway?
About dealing with projects.
If I say I was involved in theCancer St.
STEM project.
I was very truthful, reportingto the doctor, reporting to the
nation.
Everything was on time.
Every information was truthful.
There is no room to promotemyself.
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I focus on establishing theproject and the doctor I was
working with.
One time I asked him, why didyou choose me?
Because so many people werejealous.
He said, Samira, you have noagenda.
Do you know all those people whoare crazy to work with me?
Either money or show off but youhave no agenda.
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I never asked for money.
I never asked for expense oftraveling.
I never asked for anything.
Samir, in case it's not clear, Ineed to let you know I'm having
so much fun with you right now.
I'm visualizing everything thatyou've said, I have this video
running in my mind of this chapcoming up to you, tapping you on
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the shoulder this memory notonly lives on with you, but it's
going to stay with me and theexpat women listening forever.
As much as you've found yourselfin these incredible situations,
there is this question ofidentity and who we are at core,
and that's always constantbecause it never goes away.
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I'm curious to find out how, howdid you blend the best of both
worlds?
Your culture is very strong andyour family structure, and it
means a great deal to you.
How did you stay connected toyour Jordanian roots, living in
the USA and hobnobbing withthese international people, with
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this lifestyle.
I.
That's really a good questionbecause the combination of, to
take the good things of mybackground,'cause I have many
good things.
Being, being yourself, beingtruthful being sincere, being
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uh, knowing who you are,.
And always act as I'm aprotector of the family.
Name Uhhuh.
That was very important.
Uh, and take good things fromAmerica'cause there is good and
bad in each culture.
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If you take a good thing fromthere and good thing from
America, you come out with thebest person, really?
I'm not saying I'm the best, butthis is as a theory.
I try to remember who I am thatI have to keep the name of the
family intact.
And I take every good thing.
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America gives many good things.
But we have to know to focusabout the good things, to know
what it is.
Maybe the good thing for me isnot a good thing for others.
maybe the bad thing for me isgood for them.
For me, I was able to discernthe good things and proceed in
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my life, and many things I wasoffered to do because of my
reputation.
Efficiency.
Hard Work.
If I can sum up a couple of gemsthat I've heard so far that you
want the expat woman listeningto take away.
Uh.
They would be education,ambition, to keep being
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industrious and truthful.
That's about integrity and Yeah.
always striving for a good name,which comes back to character.
Yeah.
Yeah, of course.
That's not something that I'vetouched on yet.
I'm glad you mentioned keepingyour family's name intact,
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Absolutely.
um, because, uh, that's alwaysat the forefront of my mind.
Um, that's a discussion I wouldlove to have with expats But
right now.
Let's go back to something youmentioned earlier in the
conversation.
There was just this one thingthat you regretted.
Nothing to do with you moving tothe us but it's something else.
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What is that regret?
You haven't let go as of now.
if you are comfortable, becauseI think it's gonna be helpful.
The only thing I regret always,always, always, that I didn't
major in physics.
That I regret because that wasmy interest.
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When I went to college, my minorwas physics.
The job situation forced me togo to business, it's not my
favorite, but I regret thatalways very, very harshly.
So I really recommend people tomajor in what they love and what
they like.
Major in what you love.
oh, let me just hang out therefor a second.
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I'm hearing you say, spend yourtime and energy on the things
that capture your heart greatly.
Don't let fear or evenpracticality continue to
override passion.
Yeah, hmm, That is beautiful.
Very kind of you.
my husband was encouraging me togo for business'cause of the job
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situation, but I shouldn't have,listen.
Sounds like your move to Americaand your subsequent life there
has reshaped you.
Would you say that's the case?
Oh my gosh.
Lot of shaping, I will never beable to have the friends I have
now if I've stayed in Jordan.
No, the beginning was difficult,but I overcome that difficulty.
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By getting myself busy witheducation, going to college,
having good time.
I was just jumping fromhappiness that I'm doing
something.
I really recommend anyone inthis country that had the
opportunity to have educationhere.
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it's open for them.
It's like something like waterhere, just you go drink.
I'm wondering if thoseopportunities are still as
vibrant now as they were back inthe sixties and seventies and
even the eighties.
I'm imagining there's been a lotof change.
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It's inevitable.
No, I don't think so.
I remember in those days thatwas Vietnam War.
People were coming from war.
They were under, drugs.
Many of them.
Mm-hmm.
And, but when I was there, manyforeigners, Japanese, Chinese,
Arabs.
You find very few of theAmerican students there.
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I mean, they were deprived fromhaving good background of
mathematics, science, algebra.
They were very weak in that,while we came from Jordan, from
French schools, we were verystrong now I can see the young
generation, and I hear this frommy friend working for Lawrence
Livermore lab she was myprofessor I asked her the same
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question.
She said, young generation arenot motivated for education like
before.
And this is a sad part.
Very sad part.
Is there anything else aboutyour experience as an immigrant
woman in the USA that you wouldwant expat women listening to
know?
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I.
I really want people to know,especially foreigners, how good
Americans are.
They're beautiful people.
They don't mix the governmentwith the people the people were
very supportive I can see thehelp they get overseas, the
children, the poor, the needy,we have to remember that
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American people are good people.
I noticed something withforeigners, especially Middle
Eastern people.
They brag About their life.
Get along and blend withsociety, don't brag about your
life back home.
I am going to say thank you verymuch for your time.
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We've been an hour already.
Okay.
Very fast., You're welcome.
Thank you for your journey.
Anything you need, just let meknow.
My episode with Samira leaves mewith two takeaways.
The first is just be brilliant.
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We can take hold of everyopportunity presented seek them
out.
Make the family at home proud ifthat's a thing for you.
I would want that.
But the second is something thatis really deep in my heart.
It's so easy to walk past aperson, perhaps look at them
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across the road, across thetable, and make assumptions
based on external factors.
But unless you listen tosomebody else's story, you have
absolutely no idea who they are.
What they've accomplished inlife.
You don't know their challenges,the overcoming they have
experienced.
They have stories, answers toquestions you need to have The
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person walking past who mightlook very different sound very
different to you, their accentthick from something foreign,
but it's still your language.
You have no idea of the impactthat they are having in the
community in which they live,your community.
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How they are changing lives oneday at a time.
This is your reminder to notmake assumptions, but to tune in
to the stories of other humanbeings and hear from their own
mouth who they are and what theybring to life.
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That's the takeaway for today.
Bye-bye.