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August 26, 2025 72 mins

It’s time for our very first Game-Swap! Michael dives back into his Blockbuster rental nostalgia with Project: Snowblind, while Eric realizes the crew of Final Fantasy XV feels a lot like the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles in black coats.

The swap continues with a portable spin-off and a questionable Call of Duty clone that alienated a fan base. Plus: Michael shares why UFO 50 is his current obsession, and Eric breaks down his excitement for Battlefield 6 after an intense Beta Weekend.

If you love retro games, shooters, and discovering hidden gems, this episode is packed with laughs, hot takes, and plenty of nostalgia.

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    0:00 - Intro

    2:40 - UFO 50

    13:20 - Battlefield 6 Beta

    26:00 - Looking forward to Metal Gear Solid Delta

    33:50 - Project: Snowblind

    46:45 - Final Fantasy XV

    1:00:20 - Michael's pick for Eric

    1:05:50 - Eric's pick for Michael


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    (00:10):
    Stay to the same is back. We promised we would be back and
    look at us living up to our commitments, unlike our previous
    history would say. Two in a row.
    Two in a row. That's a record for this new
    era. This is a committed relationship
    as a podcast now two in a row. Yes, my name is Eric with me is
    Michael. Welcome back to state of the

    (00:32):
    save 2 point O. Well, we are here to discuss
    some video games, video game news and video game adjacent
    topics. Michael, how you been doing?
    I've been doing good. I'm also been doing good,
    Michael. It's a it's a Sunday when we're
    recording, so we're all coming off of the weekend getting back
    into the swing of things, looking forward to talking and

    (00:53):
    podcasting and all that fun stuff.
    Michael, before we get into the games that we had played, and if
    you're not familiar, if you didn't check out last episode,
    the new format of the show now is that we are going to be kind
    of doing like a game trade wherewe'll each hand each other a
    video game, Say this is the gameyou're going to play for the
    show for this week and then we'll discuss it when we come

    (01:14):
    back. Kind of a a change in things way
    they used to be done, but a lot more sustainable.
    This is going this format, playing this game that you let
    me brought me back to when I would rent games again with a.
    Blockbuster Podcast. Yeah, with a blockbuster
    podcast, we're bringing that back.
    The whole I have two weeks to spend as much time as I want to

    (01:35):
    spend with this game before it needs to go back.
    I think it's also going to open up a lot more conversations
    about games that we couldn't talk about in the old format
    because the old format was very driven by what can you complete
    and what is good to talk about as like a complete package.
    Not something like Risky was like, hey, try this game, see if
    you like it. You know, I like this kind of

    (01:56):
    philosophy. Yeah.
    We're going to see how it goes as we progress.
    But before we do that, let's talk about some video game,
    other stuff, some stuff that we've been doing and playing.
    Michael, you've been having somesome video game stuff going on.
    What you want to talk? About I have it.
    So Nintendo's been dropping a bunch of directs, I believe
    leading up to something. They always do something big in

    (02:17):
    September where they announce the rest of their slate.
    They did a project show partner showcase, which was like had a
    couple things in there. They had an indie showcase,
    which brought out a game that I've been waiting for to come to
    the Switch for a very, very longtime.
    And by very, very long time, I mean a year.
    But if if it's something you want and it's existing only on

    (02:38):
    PC, you're like, no, I need thatto come to switch.
    Please come to switch. And I finally did UFO 50.
    OK, do you know anything about UFO 50?
    Absolutely nothing. OK, so that's a lot of fun then.
    So UFO 50 is from the Moss Mossmouth, the developer of
    Spelunky. I do know some spelunky.

    (02:59):
    And this is their very ambitiousproject that took, I think
    they've been working on this game since like 2017, because it
    is a compilation game in that the story of the game is that
    the developers of Moss Mouth uncovered a lost video game
    console from a developer that existed from 1982 to 1989 and

    (03:24):
    then didn't make any more games after that.
    So this is their version of calling back to an Action 52, if
    you know what that is. It was an NES and Sega Genesis
    game that was like $200. That was like, you get 52 games
    with $200. It was the ultimate pitch.
    It was the ultimate pitch for parents being like, I never have

    (03:45):
    to buy you a game for an entire year.
    So yeah, we'll get you Action 52and spoiler.
    Action 52 was terrible. Wasn't those.
    It was basically like glorified,like copies, correct?
    Wasn't there a lot of stuff thatwas like, this is Tetris, like
    this is like a? Slightly shooters.
    There's a worse Pac-Man. Here's a worse Mario.
    He was like, like Snake or something, like, you know, it's

    (04:09):
    that kind of stuff. It was not actually fully
    developed games. So Moss Mouth asked the
    question, what if action 52 was good?
    OK, what if Action 52 was great?Because you have a competent
    developer doing 50. Two games that they've slaved
    away for seven years to develop all of these games.

    (04:31):
    So what is presented to you is afake gaming system.
    Boot up for a system called the LX, the LX one, the LX 2, and
    the LX3 developed by a company that you see they start, they
    start out basically making gamesas in the the fiction of the
    game, making games as a side project for this company, and

    (04:53):
    then became a company called Ufosoft.
    And you see their logos change as you go throughout the years
    and their development styles change.
    There's recurring characters that will appear in like game
    five that will appear in like game 15.
    That's a completely different game.
    It is a universe of games created of 50 games.

    (05:14):
    I want to emphasize, and these aren't mini games.
    These are full games from the for the era the NES.
    You can beat the You can beat some of these games in an hour,
    but there is a 15 hour JRPG on this thing.
    God damn. They may that is tied to the
    same world as one of my favoritegames called Rail Heist, which

    (05:34):
    is a stealth turn based Metal Gear Solid on this thing where
    you are working for a train, train robberies and you got to
    rob the train. But it's turn based.
    You have 10 seconds to move and then all the other like the
    patrols, the lawmen on this train are patrolling at that
    time. So it's like a turn base.
    So Rail Heights is 1. I highly recommend.

    (05:55):
    But there's also a terminal where you can go in and learn
    that fake history of these gamesand the fake developers.
    You can see where people have dropped off.
    You can see where there is a horror game on this thing, a
    horror point and click game thatwas like, yeah, he was a coder,
    but he decided to direct this game and it's basically a point
    and click version of Resident Evil 7.

    (06:15):
    Damn. It is the most ambitious thing
    I. Need to play this video game?
    I I've ever played, I think it'son everything now.
    I don't know if it's just on switch, it might go on
    everything. Here's the best part 25 bucks.
    Fucking sold. 25 bucks for 50 games.
    It sounds like it's so it's incredible and I don't want to
    spoil a lot of the games on herebecause a lot of the fun is

    (06:37):
    being like, what's next? No, I don't.
    I I'm at this weird point right now.
    Well, I would prefer you not to tell me any more games.
    That's on there like you've toldme enough.
    I'm going to tell a couple because there's some that are
    like really, really fun that I think I wanted to emphasize the
    ones that I've been playing a lot.
    But the discovery is the fun. What I do, what I'm doing now is

    (06:57):
    I played, I touched all 50 for about 10 to 15 minutes each,
    flagged my favorites, and now I'm just going and play and
    beating my favorite ones, including a game, a fake game
    from Fate 1985 called Party House.
    Party House is a deck builder where you are letting people
    into the party, but if enough troublemakers show up, the cops

    (07:20):
    show up. So you want to add to your 1980s
    Rolodex people you want to invite to the party and there's
    a chance they'll show up at the door.
    The goal is to invite prestigious guests to the party
    before Invite 4 prestigious guests to the party, but in
    order to do that, you need popular guests.
    Sometimes popular guests bring atroublemaking friend.
    Sometimes popular guests take a lot of money.

    (07:44):
    They take money to be there. Like a stand up comedian will
    take a dollar of money to be there.
    This is like a deck builder thatif they ever spun out to his own
    $15 game I'd be like sold. It is.
    And this is like in like a 1980s.
    Style. 1980s Style. Presentation are we are we
    getting like parody characters and stuff?
    Like is the comedian like, you know, I don't know Jerry
    Seinfeld or. Something.

    (08:05):
    It looks Jerry Seinfeld adjacent, but it's not like a
    straight up parody. These are very lovingly crafted
    where even games I don't vibe with I'm like hey they went for
    something here. There's like 1 I want to like
    more than I do Bushido ball which is like sword fighting
    windjammers. I'm.

    (08:29):
    Really addicted to quibble racing which is a horse betting
    game where you bet on alien races and you can you see the
    odds split you bet on you you and two two computer players.
    This also multiplayer does allowmultiplayer functionality on
    this thing too where you have 3 quibbles like little alien dudes
    that run this race. You can see their odds and their

    (08:49):
    statistics of which rate of how likely they are to win the race.
    You can bet on them, but you canalso protect.
    You can pay money to protect him, make sure no one can
    sabotage him. You can drug the other
    opponents, you know, you know, like blitz the league.
    Yeah, Yeah. It's like blitz the league, but
    horse racing. Which is amazing because if you
    don't know Blitz the league is awonderful video game, but you

    (09:11):
    have no, you don't have to have any interest in sports to love
    blitz the league. Fantastic game.
    But this is really like blown myway because I I, I did not know
    anything about. This it was only it was only on
    PC for last year. So the only people I've heard
    about it from were like the gaming podcast I listen to like
    really deep into. Wait, there's other gaming
    podcasts? Yeah, yeah.

    (09:32):
    We're not the only one. What?
    I know, I know. Maybe you told me we were
    special. We are special.
    I was the best, right? We're past the five minute
    opening, we can start busting out that kind of content.
    But no, generally I did not knowanything about this and now I'm
    very, very excited. Like this sounds like something
    right up my alley. It's game of the year material.

    (09:53):
    Damn. Because not every There's No 10
    out of 10 masterpieces on this thing.
    There's a lot of eights. There's a lot of nines.
    It's a. Standby.
    Not that I've seen, but I could dive into something that makes
    me. I haven't touched the 15 hour
    RPG yet. Yeah, I mean, I touched on that,

    (10:13):
    realized what it was, you know, like how long is this thing and
    what are you talking about? This is game 4.
    This is game 39 of 50 in this. I know you said that there's
    like some like fake developer information like you can do that
    that is there some like overarching like meta commentary
    or is this just like we found this thing, check it out.
    Not that I've seen not to say it's not there because there's

    (10:36):
    there's so much depth to this because there's so much going
    on. You can activate like cheats.
    There's a game genie S terminal in this thing where you can like
    I haven't touched that stuff. OK, I'm.
    Cuz what's that? What's that game?
    The card game? I played a bunch of it.
    It's set inscription inception. Oh.
    Inscription, Inscription, inscription had some of that

    (10:57):
    where there was like an overarching, there was the game
    and then there's this overarching like developer point
    of view story that's going on inwet as well.
    I don't want to get too much into it because it does kind of
    sports and stuff, but I always thought that stuff was really
    interesting when you start seeing like, you know, the, it
    kind of had like the haunted game kind of thing going on.

    (11:18):
    But I mean that that's impressive the amount of time
    they spent. I mean, you said they've been
    working on it since about 2017. About 7 years of development.
    Yeah, I mean, you have to to make that much content and also
    I imagine it requires a lot of now that you said the games are
    kind of like Nintendo style games, but still you're doing a

    (11:40):
    lot of like Sprite walk and things like that.
    I got to check this thing out. I'm excited.
    It was fun looking up after playing all of them to see what
    people's favorites were and realizing I had a couple
    favorites with the community, Like Party House was one that
    really took off. And that's one I every time I
    boot it up, I'm like, I'll just play some party house and then
    an hour pass. I'm like, why if I keep playing
    party house? Also, like what a weird way to

    (12:03):
    like test your community becauselike you put these 52 games out
    there, you see what people like kind of connect with it is a
    developer. You're like, OK, these are ideas
    we could expand on ladle. You know, it's like, oh, people
    really dug. Yes I would if they spun off.
    If they made Party House a bigger game I would be their day
    one. Party House 2 point.
    O party house 2 point O exactly.What if it was made in the 90s

    (12:24):
    with like Super Nintendo aesthetic or something like
    that? There it is a it's a miracle of
    an indie game. I adore this so much.
    So I am. Highly recommend to anyone out
    there. UFO $5025.00 an instantaneous
    like good value for your system especially if you're looking for
    stuff and Indies on the switch too.

    (12:44):
    This is the one. Also, what a good Switch game.
    Yeah, if this is a game you can sit in your bed at night and
    play on the Switch, I don't think you lose anything.
    When I've heard that it was a good Steam Deck game, I'm like,
    please come to the Switch. Please, please.
    You have to be doing something. Yeah, I I think that that's,
    that sounds really cool. I'm excited to come on the show
    today and then walk away with a new recommendation.
    I think it's also on the Switch one as well.

    (13:07):
    I mean they're like standard Nintendo game, so you might be
    able to get this on the Switch one as well.
    Yeah, yeah, I imagine I. Don't know for certain, but I'm
    pretty sure. I I too have a video game I
    would like to recommend. Mine's a little bit more
    mainstream Battlefield beta. Battlefield 6 beta was on last
    weekend. What a what a fascinating ton of

    (13:31):
    events. Are we so back?
    We are. Back Like, listen, listen.
    I was a huge Battlefield guy. Like Battlefield 2, my jam
    Battlefield I I I was in a battlefield 1942, a Vietnam guy.
    I was battlefield twos when I kind of got into it and then,
    you know, I followed it through Bad Company 1 and 2, Battlefield

    (13:52):
    3 and four couple of the spin offs.
    When you start hitting things like Battlefield hardline is
    when I was like, this is this isnot good.
    Let's not play this, I had. Really fun random real real
    animations in hardline though, don't.
    You. Yeah.
    I mean, they they got good Easter eggs, but you know, it's
    not fun playing as cops. Take that information for what

    (14:17):
    you would listen. But no, like I I did not want
    really connect to any of those games.
    Battlefield 2142 I had hopes for, and then when it came out I
    was just severely disappointed. I even tried to go back to it, I
    believe at the beginning of thisyear.
    I tried to be like, what's goingon?

    (14:37):
    Like the last one I really likedwas like Battlefield 1.
    Battlefield 1 was really good. I really like Battlefield 1.
    I think I end up playing the beta for that more than the main
    game. I I played a lot of Battlefield
    1. I really dug it.
    I don't like the single player in that game.
    Oh yeah, it had like a really cool, like the different
    vignettes of like the different spots of the war.
    Battlefield has always done someweird stuff with the battle with

    (15:00):
    the single player. I will say the battlefield, the
    return to World War 21 that theydid there was like World War 2
    but World War 2 like. Weird Battlefield 5I.
    Think it was Battlefield 5. That one was not bad.
    I thought it was OK. I played more of it than I
    probably should have, you know, to be honest with you.
    But it wasn't, it wasn't mind blowing, it wasn't special, I

    (15:23):
    guess is the way to put it. Battlefield 6 beta comes out,
    everybody's all hyped for it. I missed the first weekend
    because I just had so much goingon.
    Second weekend comes on. OK, bam, let's play some
    Battlefield. That thing's really, really
    good. That's great to hear.
    It's I've I've been thinking about it a lot.

    (15:44):
    I like the fact that the maps that they showed off are a lot
    more smaller than they've been in the past.
    Like they're like a lot more city fights focused.
    One of them takes place in like a Middle Eastern city.
    One of them take took place in like Brooklyn.
    OK, there is some really, reallyjust smart stuff with like how

    (16:07):
    the the class system has been streamlined a lot.
    It's a full class game now. I really like gunplay feels
    good, though obviously there's some stuff that needs to be
    fixed on. Like, you know, there's some
    overpowered weapons. A shotgun is a goddamn sniper
    rifle, you know, just dropping fools halfway down the street.

    (16:28):
    But All in all, it's a really, really good showing.
    It's fascinating also how excited people get from what is
    basically a very straightforwardmultiplayer presentation.
    So in from a first person shooter like fan point, right,
    We were in this point where everything was battle passes and

    (16:49):
    season passes and battle Royals and this that and the other.
    This is a very straightforward multiplayer presentation.
    They've shown off a little bit of their like battle pass, but
    it's like it doesn't seem to be wild and crazy.
    You're not got Beavis and Butt Head running around.
    I saw that going. Around and it's just fascinating
    how like this very straightforward, straight up

    (17:11):
    multiplayer presentation has just like made people so excited
    again because I feel like we pushed the needle way too far to
    the right where we were just like foots on the gas.
    Everything is like Nicki Minaj, Nicki Minaj, Snoop Dogg, you
    know, it's the Call of Duty effect, primarily.
    Call of Duty did this where it'slike everything is just insane.

    (17:35):
    Here's Seth Rogen. Things you can do in Fortnite
    doesn't really translate Call ofDuty, yes.
    Exactly, Battlefield doing a more grounded presentation,
    really connected with people. And it also helps that the game
    feels really freaking good. Like like there's a like there's
    so many just little small, like matter of fact life improvements

    (17:56):
    that I really like about it. I really, really dug the just
    the map design. I dug the destructive kind of,
    you know, bad company. If you remember like bad company
    one and two, it was a big, big deal how much destructive
    environments that was. And like, hey man, sometimes it
    feels really, really fun to shoot a tank at a building and

    (18:18):
    watch the whole building come down.
    Like it just feels good, like the destructive, you know,
    capabilities of everything. I believe it's on the new
    engine, so it's running on a newengine.
    Just feels good, looks good. I'm excited for it.
    I'm I'm a little bit concerned with a couple of just little

    (18:40):
    aspects for me. I need some more customizing
    options for the UII had a hard time picking the enemy out of
    the environment. This would this is sort of a
    different problem than what Battlefield 2042 had in the
    beta, where you couldn't tell your enemies from your allies.
    Yeah, this was, I had a hard time picking things out of the

    (19:03):
    the background and I can't tell if that's just because I'm old
    or if that's just because there may be the UI needs some
    something else to help with that.
    But I need I if I have more time.
    I didn't really go mess around with a lot of the settings
    because I was just trying to getreps in, you know, get games in,
    get my vibe down, see how I feel.

    (19:23):
    I got this for two days. I need.
    To yeah, yeah. So I didn't really do a lot of
    that stuff, but I'm excited for it.
    I think that it's it's going to be on the list of my purchases
    this year, maybe a day one purchase because it does feel
    good. It's been a while since I've had
    an FPS that really connected with like I've fiddled with
    everything. But like, you know, it's been a

    (19:46):
    while since something came out that feels really, really good
    for me. I am not a super fan of like the
    the simulation flush flushing shooters like the mill Sims.
    Like the hell that loose hell. Yeah.
    I want to like those games, I have tried to like those games
    but it's just I have too much ADHD man and.

    (20:08):
    Running for 20 minutes just to get in a firefight and get
    killed and then have to run for.By a guy you couldn't see.
    By a guy I couldn't see, like Hell Let Loose showed off that
    they're going to do battle Hell Let Loose Vietnam.
    And like in theory that looks cool as hell, but I know my ADHD
    is not going to let me enjoy it as much as I want to.
    Same thing with Ready or Not. Like everybody's talking about

    (20:29):
    that one right now. I looked at it.
    That's like a spiritual successor to like the SWAT.
    PS Yeah, the PC game. And listen, it looks good.
    Don't get me wrong, it looks good, but I just ma'am, I, I'm,
    I'm not that guy. I got the ADHD bad.
    I come from the I come from Haloand I come from the fast pace,
    kind of fast parsing shooters. The only other one this year

    (20:50):
    that's really connected with me is split Gate 2.
    And that was very much like a flash in the pan was like 3
    weeks. Split gate 2 was all I played
    and then it's like and it's gone.
    But I, I'm really excited for Battlefield 6.
    I think it looks really, really good.
    Just don't drop the ball and you'll be fine.
    I, I had a feeling this was coming because buddy of mine at

    (21:14):
    work got into the Alpha, He loves Battlefield.
    He got into the alpha, the closed alpha, the very tight
    window for Battlefield 6. And he was like, I think this
    one's going to be good. I think this one's going to be
    really good. As a Battlefield fan who hasn't
    played since Battlefield 1 and Battlefield 4, I'm like yeah
    sure, yeah it's probably it's probably good, but then seems

    (21:35):
    like explode into this way I. Mean.
    Where it was the beta for Battlefield 6 was more popular
    on Steam and you can't really goby Steam charts as like a matter
    of fact, like objective thing. But the fact that it was doing
    more than Call of Duty says Oh no, the audience is looking for
    something like this. It's and hitting in a way that

    (21:59):
    nothing really has, you know, very long time.
    Well, I think it has such it's got so many like quality of life
    improvements, like basic stuff like hey, spawn on a guy now you
    have like almost like a like a GoPro style camera angle of
    them. So you can check things out
    before you spawn on your squad mate.
    There was, you know, the whole, like, medic stuff now where you

    (22:23):
    can drag people as you heal them.
    Oh, yeah, yeah, that's awesome. As you heal someone, if you're
    not doing it with a defibrillator, which is
    instantaneous, you actually pickthem up like, you pull on them.
    So you pull them as you heal. And so like, this sounds like a
    really basic thing, but if someone got like shot in a

    (22:44):
    location, probably not a good idea to just stay in that
    location. Being able to move them away
    from where they got hit is, I can't tell you the number of
    times, like in normal Battlefield games, I wouldn't be
    able to revive somebody or wouldn't even tried because I'm
    like, no, there's this is like adoorway.
    They're just going to shoot me through the door.
    And instead you grab them and you pull them away from the door

    (23:04):
    and you heal them as you go and then they back up and running.
    And it's also because it has such a like a good cinematic
    feel to it. It encourages you to do it.
    Like you, I was a lot more proneto make those like desperate
    runs that grab a buddy then I was before because it's like
    right now I can grab them, like pull them down the street trying
    to save them. Gunplay feels really, really

    (23:26):
    good. Like saying simple, simple class
    systems. So it's only four now.
    So like support is basically what used to be like your
    machine gun class and the medic class combined Salts assault
    engineer is engineer and rock and anti tank and then sniper
    and sniper. But like that was kind of like
    the battlefield 2 modern combat,the console version class

    (23:50):
    system. So like battlefield 2 had like I
    believe like 6 or seven classes,but like the console version
    only had like 4. It was like spec OPS assault
    support and sniper and engineer.It was five.
    It was 5 but like that simple class system is very
    customizable. So it looks like from support
    like, hey, if you want to be more of a medic, you can do some

    (24:13):
    more class stuff that would there.
    The assault has like a basic like you can flex into like a
    grenade guy or you know, more oflike a close quarters, you know,
    thing it it it feels good. I'm excited for it.
    I'm excited that it's got peopleup and ready to play some
    battlefield. It's weird to be excited about
    an EA game. Forgot I could.

    (24:34):
    Forgot I could do that. Versus cautious optimism like
    this new Dragon Age, maybe it'llbe good.
    Maybe, man, I tried to, I tried to go back to Valgard since our
    last conversation. It just did not work.
    I was, I tried, brother. I tried.
    But yeah, Battlefield 6 beta very, very exciting.

    (24:56):
    I, I yeah, we're we're we're back, baby.
    We're back. Games are coming out.
    Games are coming out. Michael, next week.
    Metal Gear Solid, Delta, Gears of War Remastered is coming out
    next week. I believe we have Battlefield 6
    coming. We have what's some other stuff
    Ninja guidance coming out this year.

    (25:17):
    That's another next week one that's no, it's not no ninja
    guy, oh wait ninja guy. I was thinking of Ninja Gaiden
    Rage Bound which is beside scrolling one which is out.
    That's right Ninja. There's another Ninja Gaiden
    game there's. Another Ninja Gaiden.
    They proclaimed the near they they proclaimed the year of the
    ninja and what how right they were.
    Because also there's a new Shinobi game coming out this

    (25:38):
    week. Shinobi's back Ninja Gaiden
    Black 2 was out beginning of this year.
    That's one of my favorite games I played this year.
    That thing's amazing. And then like I said, we got new
    Ninja Gaiden this year. It's a good year for video
    games. Before we go into talking about
    our games that we are, we tradedlast week, are you excited about

    (25:58):
    Metal Gear Solid Delta? We and you are both Metal Gear
    Solid people. I'm excited.
    I'm not going to get it day one.I've seen a lot of stuff from it
    that I'm going to sound like such a fanboy.
    I've seen this stuff from it that just, it's, it's a standard
    remaster, $70 seems a little bitsteep for me at this time.

    (26:20):
    For a remaster of Metal Gear Solid 3, I'm sure it is like
    great as there's a bunch of Easter eggs from the original,
    all the Easter eggs that they from the original Subsistence
    release they kept. There's a way to go back to
    their original style. I'm just like, it's a little too
    steep for me at the moment. So I'm going to, I'm just going
    to wait on it. I totally think that's fair.

    (26:43):
    I will say that like I love I like Metal Gear Solid 3A lot.
    Hey, there's a show on this network.
    You could go back on our podcastfeed and listen to us talk about
    that game. But a smooth old playing Metal
    Gear Solid three that looks better is all anything I want.
    I'm worried that it's going to be another Twin Snake situation

    (27:07):
    where if you add too much to thecore game, it just becomes
    easier. And I'm sure you can crank up
    the difficulty to sort of mitigate that.
    But it's just I want to see whenplayers get their hands on it,
    what they say about it. If they're like, I beat this
    game in like 5 hours less than Ialready have.
    Because just the quality of lifestuff really took away some of

    (27:27):
    those barriers. And some of the barriers to like
    the survival mechanics and stuffis stuff that I really, really
    like from Three. I think, and this just might be
    like a difference in like how weapproach the game.
    I don't think you're wrong, but I think I, I never want
    difficulty to be a thing that I feel like it's being
    manufactured due to the limitations of the mechanics.

    (27:49):
    Yeah. And I feel like sometimes when I
    play Metal Gear Solid 3, I feel like the difficulty comes from
    the limitations of the mechanics, not from my own
    skill. Level.
    Does that make any sense? Like, like there's there's an
    obtusiveness to the Metal Gear Solid trilogy that I embrace and
    absolutely love. Yeah, so.

    (28:12):
    And and you are 100% valid in that statement.
    I think that for. Me.
    Yes, sometimes I'm like, boy, I know what I want to do here, but
    you know, the weirdness of how Metal Gear Solid 3 feels is
    preventing me from doing it. And like that kind of is what I
    would love to. Just watch this get away 20

    (28:33):
    minute video on the basics of CQC and it will all make sense.
    Yeah, that one hour fucking I stand by.
    I still get so damn mad at that.That speeches at the beginning
    of just will you shut the hell up.
    Well, those speeches are going to be intact.
    I know, I know, but at least nowit's prettier to look at.
    But no, I, I kind of compare it to like the Resident Evil 2

    (28:56):
    situation. Now I know that's a more of a, a
    reimagining, but like I, I feel better if the mechanics are not
    what's stopping me. It's the difficulty of the game
    itself. So like, I would probably just
    say, hey, I'll crank it up on difficulty now that it's a
    better playing experience. Like little things like I know
    that now, like the camo system is like something that's like

    (29:18):
    not, it's not menu anymore. You can just click on it and
    like, do it on the fly. Yeah.
    And stuff like that, that, that's a win.
    That's a win. Boy, if I don't have to be going
    to menus every 20 minutes to be like, well, now I'm in some
    grass. It keeps you engaged in the.
    Yeah, I would rather be able to just lean against the wall and
    be like, now I'm in my orange camo because it's a brick wall
    and over here I'm in this, you know, so I'm excited for it.

    (29:40):
    I I'm if funds are there, boy, Imight get that.
    I'm really excited to hear what there's a guy at work there, a
    guy I work with this This man isin his 60s, loves Metal Gear
    Solid 5, has not played any other Metal Gear Solid game,
    loves Metal Gear Solid 5 becauseof the freedom that the
    exploration does. He did not care a lick about the

    (30:01):
    story. He's like I pre-ordered Metal
    Gear Solid delta snake gear. I'm really excited.
    I was like, I don't think you know what you're getting into,
    buddy. I feel like he.
    Might end up loving it but I waslike this is a very very very
    different game and I hope pleasetell me you understand.
    That I hope he enjoys it. I hope he doesn't get turned off
    by the 1st wave of just info dumping that happens.

    (30:26):
    That's what's good. But there is a lot of info
    dumping and a lot of slow movement at the beginning of
    Metal Gear Solid 5. There's a lot of crawling around
    not really having full control over.
    Yeah, Snake is injured and there's all the There is more
    story at the beginning of Metal Gear Solid 5 than it is once you
    get past like the first three hours.
    Yes, exactly. That was another thing.

    (30:49):
    Finally beat Metal Gear Solid 5 of the hiatus.
    I congratulations. I did it.
    Thank you. That game is good.
    It's a very it's a very good game.
    It's a stand by that. I'm disappointed from a Metal
    Gear Solid story perspective, but as a stealth playing game
    it's one of the best ever. It's the best feeling Metal Gear
    game in my opinion. I love the feel of that game
    like like the prac. The experience of landing in a

    (31:11):
    location and going on a stealth mission.
    It feels really, really good andthen extracting out.
    And extracting out. It takes elements of what I like
    from Hitman and puts it in the Metal Gear Solid, and I really,
    really like that stuff. I like sneaking into an airfield
    and just extracting everybody from the Fultons.
    But, and that's not what this game is, and I'm really excited

    (31:34):
    to hear this 60 year old man's perspective on the Metal Gear
    Solid series. I mean.
    If it was, if it was Peace Walker next, he'd be having a
    similar time be like, well, it'sa lot more linear structure.
    I was like, well, you know, it was a portable game, right?
    Yeah. To go from the least story to.
    The most story. The second most story I would
    say. 4 is the most story, yeah. You know what though?

    (31:58):
    Metal Gear Solid 3 was my first Metal Gear, so that's true.
    It worked for me. And if it takes the barriers for
    someone like him to enjoy it, and I'd probably see this as an
    absolute win. I'm just really excited to see
    what he says come two weeks fromnow when he's like, I don't know
    what, why is everyone talking tome?
    No, I do not want to learn the basics of CQC.
    And you will learn. The basis of CQC goddamnit like.

    (32:21):
    Tomorrow's enemies are today's allies or something.
    Hey, have you seen Godzilla? No, I would like to.
    I would like to save right now. Yeah, I know you want to save,
    but what about the Day After Tomorrow movie?
    He's like, will you shut the fuck up, paramedic?
    James Bond James, remember the the movie that we're definitely
    using as a pastiche? Us.

    (32:42):
    Inspired by movies? What?
    Metal Gear Solid? Kojima.
    Neville, Here's the opening theme.
    Look at Climb this ladder. Climb the ladder.
    Climb that fucking ladder. I am so.
    Excited. In actuality, I can't see why he
    would hit it in a game that has a ladder that cool.
    That's just. Pretty cool.
    If he makes it to the ladder, he's fine.
    Yeah, if he's that committed to get to the.
    I mean, that's about midway. Through that, the one boss fight

    (33:03):
    I can see being very very much elevated by the new mechanics is
    the end boss fight. I bet that is amazing.
    That would be good. Like the other like camo
    sequence the other like. I could see the fear being
    really good as well. Oh, that, yeah, 'cause that
    one's like that ambush scene where he's got all the traps and
    stuff, and I just think that that would be.

    (33:25):
    Pretty cool. OK, OK.
    There's good stuff here. I mean I'm thinking about like
    because the bosses are the main attraction in that game.
    You can't change the color grading back to like the piss
    filter. And I like the I'm a piss filter
    defender. I like that yellow smudgy piss
    filter. You like that piss filter?
    I didn't like it when they took it from Human Revolution.
    I didn't like it when they took it from Metal Gear Solid 3.
    There's always that one person in my car, Mike.

    (33:46):
    We want to talk about the video games that we gave each other.
    Yes, you want you want to go fast.
    Yes. Hit me up.
    Project's No Blind took me back to a time where I would rent
    video games and play the hell out of them for a weekend.
    That's how I discovered Project Snow Blind.
    And the first, I wasn't sure about this for the first, like,
    two or three missions. So I'm like, OK, it just seems
    like a standard shooter. It's not really doing anything.

    (34:08):
    And then I got to a mission in aparking garage.
    Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
    That I'm like, oh, this feels like the most Deus Exy that this
    game gets. You have the ice pick, which is
    a hacking tool that you can use to shoot robots and as long as
    you're not alerted, you can control that robot and cause a
    whole mess of infusion while yousneak around.

    (34:30):
    You can steal a car and just drive through the entire level
    as fast as humanly possible. You can use stealth, quote UN
    quote. I am using quotation marks for
    the stealth in this video game because it is very much like a
    suggestion. You don't have any stealth
    options besides. You have a silence pistol.

    (34:52):
    You have a silence pistol but they will immediately notice you
    when you try to shoot them anywhere other than the head.
    It stunt locks them and I'll turn to you and just don't say
    anything as you Riddle them with7 bullets as then they hit the
    ground. It's fucking good.
    It is good, but you'd also have the like invisibility move and
    everything that you could, but there's no this game is like one

    (35:13):
    neck snap away from being like from having like the stealth
    actually like feel really good. Yeah cuz I don't even does it's
    been a while. Does the melee instantly kill
    them in stealth? Cuz I think if you hit them from
    behind it kills them. Oh, does it?
    Oh, OK. I'm not 100% sure on that the.
    It is a very slow wind up for that, yes.

    (35:34):
    So when you do it, But I've onlyused it when I'm like when
    everything hits the fan and I'vejust run up to him and like
    punch him two times. And no matter that punch, seems
    like no matter how tough they are, they go down.
    But if you're punching somebody you're probably getting a shot
    at from a million different directions.
    Yeah. Yeah.
    Anyway. But this is a game that feels I

    (35:54):
    don't know for sure because there's a lot, a lot on the
    development of this game. Despite the fact, besides the
    fact that this was a days game at one point, this game reeks of
    like a troubled development but somehow came to the other side
    strong. The story makes no freaking
    sense. No, I described it as like a
    Black Hawk Down kind of thing because like, they're trying to

    (36:15):
    escape. There's warring, there's warring
    factions, the Republic versus the Carmine.
    And I'm like, if this was the day's X spin off, you would be
    saying like FEMA and the Illuminati, they just slap
    different names. They're the inconsistent tone of
    this narrative is hilarious going from.

    (36:38):
    Or as hell we. Don't know if we're going to
    make it out alive to be like, hey man, oh, they when they
    rebuilt you, that's the other thing that blew my mind.
    When they rebuilt you, they forgot to turn on the shielding
    and they made a big deal. So this military guy just hits a
    button on your back and goes, well, now you got the shielding.
    Mid battle like he should, you should find him.

    (37:01):
    He's like oh man I can't believethey forgot to turn on your
    shielding. Here you go, buddy.
    Commander Chung, best character.Best character in the game dude.
    Love it and to the point where it ends with like a scroll of
    these are all of the members that tragically died on this
    mission. Cut to loud blaring music for
    the credits and then taking you back to the start screen.

    (37:21):
    I went, what was that? I believe it's like a memorial
    is even showing. It's a memorial that died
    showing all the graves of the soldiers that died on this
    mission. You have moments where it's
    like, oh man, we're all getting slaughtered in this, like bad
    assault and everything's going South.
    And then you have moments like this guy has a giant robot army
    kicking doors and blowing peopleup.

    (37:46):
    The game is it's such a fascinating game of its time.
    Like listen, I'm not going to say Project Snow Blind is a 10
    out of 10 classic. I am going to say it's a fun
    fucking video game. This is a video game as a video.
    Game is a video game, video game.
    I'm very glad I finally played this.
    As a Deus Ex fan, yes. Do you feel like it does?

    (38:09):
    And you know, you said that it does, you know, have from a
    gameplay point of view, kind of do it.
    Does it, you know, scratch any of the itches of a Deus Ex game
    from like a aesthetic point of view a little bit?
    Because it does have a? Little bit there.
    There is some of this game that works this way in the Human
    Revolution in a lot of ways, like using the ability to see

    (38:35):
    through walls and be able to track where people is so you can
    sneak around, using the ice pickto hack your way into terminals
    and everything. Now, once you get into the
    terminal, it's just turn off, turn off, turn off.
    Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like that there's a hacking
    mechanic in the game. I also like that there is a
    point in one of the missions of this game like we're being
    counter hacked. It's just a guy on a terminal
    hitting buttons. I was like, he's just as you

    (38:55):
    open the door, he's instantly shutting the door.
    Yeah, that was just a really funny bit was like, well, we got
    to kill the guy. He's like he's hacking us.
    I was like, I'm pretty sure he'sjust hitting a button on on this
    terminal way over. Here, it's like when you're on
    the, you're on the elevator and you're just holding the shut
    the. Door.
    Yeah, I was like all this assholes in the door shuts.
    Like, yeah, the weapons feel fun.

    (39:16):
    Yeah. I mean, it's a damn good game.
    The weapons I have for half of them, I do not know what they
    do, but they seem to put people down instantly.
    Like I'm thinking of like the big a laser gun that like shoots
    out in spurts when you hit the alternate fire of it.
    It makes like a cloud of these things that like sort of seek
    out people. Yeah, I think it's like a like A

    (39:37):
    and. Like a if they went down it
    doesn't really feel like you're doing anything.
    But I shot it in a hallway with like 10 dudes.
    I came back around and they wereall dead.
    So I'm like a cloud of like nanobots or something I think is
    what it's supposed to be. Also, my favorite mission in
    this game is is ironically the sewer level.
    The sewer level in this game is really.

    (39:58):
    Cool, that's like the horror level.
    Yeah, cuz you get down there, all the enemies are invisible,
    so you got through a lot. This game, whenever you're in
    big firefights and everything, it kind of becomes overload
    because you have so many abilities.
    They drop so many abilities. On so many grenades.
    So many grenades that you're like, I don't know, these are
    humanoid, but they're robots. So do I throw a flash grenade or

    (40:19):
    do I throw an EMP grenade? I don't know which grenade to
    do. So I'm just gonna end up
    shooting them. So or just throwing them and
    hoping for the best. You know what?
    A good frag grenade hurts everybody.
    Yeah, we're gonna do frag grenade.
    I like the. I like the fact that you can
    like when you throw, you can hitthe button to make the grenade,
    like drop down. Yeah.
    Dunk and explode. That stuff is cool.
    Like so you throw it over the cover and then you make it drop

    (40:40):
    right like on them basically instead of having to lob it in
    the right way. Also like yield grenades, like
    there's like a cover grenade that you throw out and gives you
    like a little shield. There's a gas grenade I believe.
    I could never get the shield oneto work because it would always
    throw way too far and get end uphelping the enemies more than
    helping me. So I was like, I'm just not
    going to deal with that. But to go back to the horror

    (41:02):
    level I like my my favorite missions in this game are ones
    that pick an ability and just say this is the one that's going
    to optimize you. Big firefight levels the shield.
    The shield will help you with shield combo with the spider
    bots because the spider bots will just make a distraction.
    You just run up and like, shoot these guys in a hallway.
    Salt rifle with grenade launcher.

    (41:23):
    Salt rifle grenade launcher boomboom boom with the spider bots
    in the shielding. The stealth level roll up this,
    the sewer level relies on you like seeing the enemies in their
    environments and take them out with that sniper rifle or
    setting traps for when they cometo you.
    Like setting, just knowing wherethey're going to come at you
    from and being prepared with like your grenades.

    (41:45):
    Or the mine thing. Don't you have the?
    Mind that's right, the mine launcher any game with a mine
    launcher is a good video game it's.
    Yeah. We need more mine launcher.
    Mine launchers are fun. Don't ask me what the alternate
    fire on that thing does, I think.
    It's like it's been so long. It shot a thing, but I could
    never the standardized. That's kind of like my favorite

    (42:06):
    thing about that game though is every gun has like a regular gun
    function did a weird. Function sometimes they make
    sense with a gun assault rifle with grenade launcher, Boom boom
    boom pistol. You hit the button and it does a
    charge shot. OK, now we're now we're cooking
    with gas. Then you got the what's the the
    the regular gun that like shootsout the nanobots is what one

    (42:30):
    thing I was talking about too. Does the shotgun doesn't it have
    like a like a What's the? Shotgun, it shoots an EMP blast,
    yeah, but I could never get thatto do more damage than when with
    just a regular shotgun. And if I'm flying, an enemy that
    does do EMP blast is most likelythose big robots.
    So I'm going to be shooting rocket launchers.
    At yeah, yeah, those are not really a shotgun target, but no,

    (42:51):
    that get one of the reason why Iwanted you to play it is that
    it's such a it's so jam packed with stuff.
    Yes. Like it's a it, it feels like
    you when you said it was like a trouble.
    Development is what you kind of picture it as.
    I see what you're talking about because it has just so many

    (43:12):
    items in it, like so many thingsto do every though.
    Do you need 20 different grenades?
    No. Do you need all the powers?
    No. Most of them are useless.
    You fight. Do you need all the guns with
    all the alternate fires? No.
    But are they there? You.
    Yes, you fight the final boss ofthis game 2/3 of the way in.

    (43:33):
    Yeah, cuz that's where you get the electric power.
    That's where you get the electric power.
    That's where you fight like the bit.
    That's where you fight this big dude.
    Don't have. General.
    He's the general. The general, of course, the
    general, yes, who's like that was a fun boss fight cuz he's
    like jumping around to all thesecrates and everything.
    So using the like seeing eye ability to like as he's going on

    (43:53):
    top of these large crates, you have enemies that pop in, but
    they're not super overwhelming. That was a really fun boss
    fight. I think that happens at the end
    of like this two-part sewer level.
    Yeah, yeah, yeah, thing. The sewer level is like heading
    towards the end of the game. Yes also all the missions of
    this game follow a similar structure.
    Get from point A to point B. You have one or two save points

    (44:15):
    in there. I like that the there's always a
    room with the save point logo onand you just walk down these
    stairs. I was like it could have just
    been its own separate room. You're making me do like extra
    walking to get there, but I kindof love it.
    Sometimes you have to like scaleup and like crawl through a vent
    to get to where the save point is, but it always says help it

    (44:37):
    it. But with each of these missions
    still following like a similar structure, like you almost
    don't. There was only a couple times I
    had to look back and see what myobjectives were and there were
    always, there wasn't always, butoccasionally they had like a a
    secondary one which would just give you a different gun.
    Yeah, most of the time it was like, here's a new gun.
    That game is fun, man. I stand by it's it's very

    (45:00):
    underrated. I don't know how many people
    talk about or still think about Project Snow Blind, but you get
    what I mean when I say it's a game.
    Very much of the time it's AB game that doesn't usually exist
    anymore. And I was like, this takes me
    back to renting a game that was cool in the curve from
    Blockbuster. I seen this cover before and I

    (45:20):
    almost rented this game several times before getting distracted
    with something else because I was all like, maybe it'll be
    good. It looks like a time.
    It looks like a time splitter. I like time splitter.
    It's very much similar kind of vibe.
    It's very similar to it is it isa similar vibe to like Time
    Splitters, but time Time Splitters knew what tone it was
    going for, whereas this project Snow Blinds has no clue of what.

    (45:42):
    Listen man, sometimes it's a biganime game, sometimes it's Black
    Hawk Down, sometimes anything else you want to say on Project
    Snow Blind? Thank you for making me play
    this. I'm glad you played.
    I had a ton of fun with Project Snow Blind and it's not a game I
    would go back to. I made a post on a backlog that
    because I'm trying to log every game I play now and I was like,

    (46:05):
    this is a game you rent for the weekend and occasionally you
    remember fondly going, man, thatwas a time it'd be I'm going to
    look back on this game occasionally like.
    That game was trying. I would love if this gets like a
    random like rerelease like you know, it'd be nice if somebody.
    Nightdive. Nightdive help me out, do it for
    me. Nightdive do it for me.

    (46:26):
    I think they would sooner do thethe original day you sex games
    first shut up before. Play do project so blonde.
    Don't. Be a pussy.
    I had a different kind of game yes.
    Now, I did not finish my game because it's a very, very.
    Long. It's a very long game.
    Final Fantasy 13 fifteen 1515 Ohmy God, why does that?
    Said 13. I'm an idiot.

    (46:47):
    No, Final Fantasy 15. I played a pretty good amount of
    this. I like this game a lot.
    Really, I am shocked. Final Fantasy is not serious.
    I have really any experience with JRPGS are not usually my
    jam, but this game is. I like the tone of this game and

    (47:08):
    I like the ward in which this game takes place.
    So I have a couple of things I want to kind of target for
    first. Setting a game around a road
    trip is an ingenious idea. In the beginning of the game
    when the road trip is very lighthearted, I was already kind of
    invested. I was like, hey, this is not

    (47:28):
    bad. I could take like because the
    game starts off with you going on basically a road trip as a
    you're going to marry your, yourcharacter is a Prince of a
    Kingdom. He's marrying a Princess of
    another Kingdom as like a peace treaty.
    Yeah, exactly. And so it's just like, hey, Wolf
    drive it, we're going to go Meadle to go do this deal.
    You're taking your, you're taking your best long time
    friends along with you. It's like a it's a, you know,

    (47:50):
    it's a bachelor party. Yeah.
    And then obviously that does nothappen the way you think it
    will. Hijinks in Sioux, hijinks in
    Sioux, betrayals happen. And now it's a, you know, a
    whole nother, you know, kind of,you know, becoming the, you
    know, basically you become king of this now defunct country

    (48:10):
    because you've been taken Oval. But you know, it's a it becomes
    more serious. You got to remember why you are
    important to begin with. It becomes a journey of self
    discovery. Which is kind of actually really
    interesting because we'll get there a second.
    The cast is great. They are the ninja.
    Turtles, yes, I was hoping you would pick up on that.

    (48:31):
    They are just the Ninja Turtles.You have Michelangelo, you have
    Rafael, you have Leonardo, you have basically Dontello.
    We'll probably make the argument.
    Maybe. Maybe you are, Leonardo.
    You're less confident, Leonardo.Yeah, Ignis kind of fills the
    dual row of Leonardo and Donatello when we talk about the

    (48:51):
    characters. I and this is my boy.
    He's always looking out for you.He's your.
    He's your number 2. Yeah, he's your.
    He's your guy's like, we can't drive out at night.
    Just so you know, you can do it.But look, I'm not going to be
    that guy, but we'll do whatever you want to do.
    Basically your advisor being like, so you'll be like, no, but
    maybe driving at night's not a bad idea.
    Makes it your idea. Yeah.

    (49:13):
    He's I really like also the mechanic of the car is not
    something that I was at first I was like, is this going to be
    taxing to have to keep track of the fuel and all this stuff?
    Nah, man, it's pretty straightforward.
    It's you know, it's not hard to remember to put some gas in the
    tank. It's not hard to do the auto
    drive if you want to. I can't tell you most of the

    (49:34):
    time I would do auto drive to the mission because there's good
    like story beats and stuff and because the ward is really
    interesting and unique. It's actually kind of nice to
    just pan the camera around and watch things and not have to
    focus on doing the driving. The idea of a fantasy ward that
    is very much like modern, like everyone is very like relatively

    (49:57):
    dresses modern but has the background of giant Dragons and
    you know everybody you know, andyou have the Final Fantasy like
    big sword guys and stuff. But then everyone else is just
    like wearing, you know, T-shirtsand stuff, you know, I really
    like that. I love the aesthetic of like, I
    love even the the IT has the worst way to introduce you to a

    (50:20):
    video game evil because it forces you to do the boringest
    tutorial I've ever done in a video game.
    Whereas like you hit go and now you just sit in a room and get
    talked to like at school. For 5 minutes by a cat.
    By a cat, which is fine, but thecat doesn't even have It's just
    a terrible introduction to a game.
    And I was like, God damn it, Michael, I was so upset.

    (50:42):
    But then once you get into the game itself and you have this
    great sequence when you're pushing the car because you're
    out of gas. Set to stand by me.
    Yeah, you're by Florence in the machine.
    It's. Great, it's great.
    I really, I really came around and ended up liking this.
    I actually like the combat system.
    I do like the combat system too.I like the kind of building up

    (51:02):
    the middle basically for the bigsuper moves that you guys can
    pull. It's Guardians of the Galaxy is
    what it is. It really is.
    Which that's another good video game, Yeah.
    But yeah, it's the Guardians of the Galaxy thing where you're
    basically, I'm just taking guys out just so I can do the big
    super move and smack them, you know, do like a.
    Team up, team up moves. And they also those like little

    (51:24):
    subtle ones, if you jump on frombehind, you can get us like a
    team up move or something going.There's all sorts of stuff.
    Really, really good. I like this game a lot, Michael,
    apparently. Apparently people didn't like
    this one as much. Yes.
    So like, is it because it does have such a more different

    (51:47):
    aesthetic? Is this aesthetic that much
    different than the other Final Fantasies?
    Speaking of products of a troubled development cycle,
    Final Fantasy 15 is like the most contentious development of
    the entire Final Fantasy series.This was going to be tied into
    the world of Final Fantasy 13. It was going to be called Final
    Fantasy versus 13. Then it got stripped away to to

    (52:08):
    become its own thing. And Final Fantasy 15 was
    supposed to be this big giant cross media event, right?
    That had tie in movies tie in a tie in like anime prequel about
    like the the friends and where they are before the becoming of
    the game. There's a novel that wraps up

    (52:29):
    the events of this game because the DLC got cancelled.
    So they made a book to wrap up the wrap up the like post game
    story and you actually saw a little bit of the movie.
    There's a weird sequence like what the when the big twist
    happens, right? So you go from.

    (52:51):
    I mean, it's spoilers but not spoilers when you go from.
    It's the first two hours. Yeah, when you're going from
    it's just a fun bachelor party to while you're gone, the
    betrayal of the Kingdom that you're trying to bring peace to
    happens and your father gets killed and gets overthrown by
    the evil, you know, evil Kingdomand this that and the other

    (53:12):
    though, when that happens, it's like a not a silent, but like
    there's just some music and likeall of it.
    Is this really extremely well done animation?
    The animated like film look. And I remember at first being
    like, what the fuck happened? Did my sound cut out because
    there's like people talking, butit's got the music just going

    (53:32):
    and nothing's going on. And then like this thing is like
    of a different quality of animation than what the rest of
    the game has been at this point.And I'm like, what?
    What is this sequence here? Like did we get a trailer for
    another game mid game? You got to show you what for a
    movie made game. Yeah.
    And then I talked to you and you're like, yeah, man, that's
    the movie. Final Fantasy 15 King's Glave.

    (53:55):
    Let me find out exactly what it's called because I don't want
    to mess up, you know, Final Fantasy 15, Yeah.
    King's Glave was a movie starring the voice talents of
    Sean Bean, Lena Headey and AaronPaul.
    Wait, run that by me again. Sean Bean, Aaron Paul, Lena
    Headey in this movie that you saw a clip of without actually

    (54:19):
    seeing like the the silent trailer you watch for things
    glave. What?
    A weird way what a weird way to do what is a major portion of
    the story in this game. Yes.
    This is not. This is the driving force of
    what happens in the next portion, next part of the the
    rest of this game. The rest of this game centers.

    (54:41):
    On that the betrayal has happened.
    Your father gets killed and likethe the game is like you get a
    phone call basically or you readin the papal that you're like,
    oh crap, my my Kingdom fell lastnight and I got to go back and
    like. It makes sense from like
    Gnosticist perspective of this is how he would receive the news
    of it happening. But to have a giant cutscene

    (55:02):
    pulled from a simultaneous, That's where the frustrations
    come from. That's where this is.
    People see this as an incomplete.
    This is the Metal Gear Solid 5 of the Final Fantasy series.
    A game that is like went throughmassive development hell, change
    UPS was going to be this massivemultimedia event.
    And then it's just like, well, here's a game with here's the

    (55:25):
    game with DLC. There's a movie with Aaron Paul.
    Here's a multiplayer expansion. Wait, what year was this
    release? 2016.
    That makes sense. There was there was this weird
    time in games where everything had to be bigger than just a
    video game. Yep.
    And I can see that being frustrating.
    I mean, it was jarring, like don't get me wrong.

    (55:45):
    Because I was sitting there watching like get the cutscene
    cuts to it and I was like, OK, did the sound go out?
    Because people are talking and I'm not hearing anything.
    And then it's like this is a bigdeal.
    Like there's all these guys are getting killed and betrayal.
    And like, I also didn't there's a different look to it.
    Like it doesn't look the same like the.

    (56:06):
    Color grading is like more gold and black.
    Yeah, And even, like, all the characters look a lot more like
    traditional Final Fantasy looking than like the rest of
    the game where everyone's wearing, like, T-shirts and
    stuff. I was like, this is not the same
    Ward. Is this like an alternate
    universe or something? And it was very weird.
    No, people are right. That is jarring as hell and not

    (56:29):
    something I enjoyed. But while I've played at the
    game after that point, it's a cool kind of like, like I
    actually do like the twist of being like, oh, hey, your little
    party is Oval. Is now time to start piercing
    things back together? We're going to have to be cut.
    You're you were Prince, remember?
    Like life was all carefree a couple of days ago, but now

    (56:52):
    you're in. You're the king, like you're
    what's left of this country's king, you know, start figuring
    that out. So people start reacting to you
    differently because Oh my God, the king is in this area.
    Yeah, you before you were treated very much like, ah, this
    is the kid, you know, whatever. You're just, you know, go do
    your thing, buddy. We'll see you in a few decades.
    Go get married, have a fun time.Have a fun time, man.

    (57:14):
    But now it's like and also like all the advisors and stuff are
    coming out of the wood walk, youknow, like you like are meeting
    people who are like who escaped this, you know, the overthrow
    man of the country. No game is fun.
    I enjoy it and I think I'm goingto keep kind of fiddling with it
    to be honest with. You yeah, there is a there's
    also the contention. There is a point of this game

    (57:36):
    where it drops the open world and goes to linear for a few
    chapters and that destroys the pacing of this thing.
    So there is a lot of contention with Final Fantasy 15.
    I really like this game, but I am, I'll be the first to admit
    it is an unfinished mess of a thing.
    But. Not having that context.

    (57:58):
    Yeah, you're just like, oh, it'sa road trip.
    In there much like you're a 60 year old Co worker.
    Yep. If you jump into Metal Gear
    Solid 5 without knowing what Metal Gear Solid is and you're
    like, this is a great video game, you know, you don't know
    what it could have been. I kind of feel like I feel the
    same way about this. Well, I don't know what it could
    have been, so I'm just enjoying it for what it is.

    (58:21):
    That's why this was the first one I finished cuz it's a 30
    hour adventure with four friendsand that's what kept me going
    cuz I love those characters. Ignis is still, I have a folder
    on my like Chrome where I put all my recipes in.
    It's I come up with a new recipe.
    My favorite thing in this game is whenever you pick up food at

    (58:42):
    the camp and he's just thinking and then he's got it and just
    says a snap like I got it. I like from a combat point of
    view, I like how all three of them have like, I actually just
    had like a guest character show up not long ago with me.
    He's like the head of the the royal guard kind of guy, You
    know what I'm talking about. He's one of the first guys you

    (59:02):
    meet post fall. And like, I like that, that
    feeling when you're in a big fight against some mech robots
    or something and you're about tolose and then you pull off a
    cool team move and take the thing down and break it.
    And so you can hit it when it's vulnerable or get a potion in or
    something. Like it's, I really enjoyed this
    game. I think it's very good.

    (59:25):
    I'm excited. It's a good choice from you
    because it's a game I'd probablywouldn't have picked up if it
    wasn't for the fact that you yousaid, hey, let's play it for the
    show. Yeah.
    So I really I like it. Man, this is a game that I could
    would not get you to play otherwise and be like, no, no, I
    promise you, you at least you will appreciate this one.
    Yeah, at least for the first fewhours.
    I like it. There's AI think there'll be a

    (59:45):
    point where you drop off, but the vibe here at the beginning
    of the game is Immaculate and I love spending time with all four
    of those guys. Also Final Fantasy 15.
    They they, they hot on the the mechanic lady.
    Oh boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
    Don't be old boy, man. Don't be like, Oh yeah, yeah,
    yeah, OK. No, I mean like from the game

    (01:00:07):
    point of view, it's like, yeah, that's they're.
    Like, hey, man, what's up? I was like, hey man.
    That could not be safe to be around power tools wearing that.
    I've seen those movies before. Let's Go.
    But no, I I dig it. I mean, I really like it a lot.
    What games are we playing next time?
    Next time. So I'm taking you back to the

    (01:00:27):
    Xbox 360. The best system?
    The best system for this game? Not for this game.
    For in life, Michael. It was a better time.
    It was a simple time. All right.
    This was a time where Call of Duty was reigning supreme.
    Japanese games were struggling over here in America, so this

    (01:00:49):
    was the time of the great. We're going to take some of our
    classic franchises and try to make them more like Call of Duty
    and Gears of War. Sometimes you get a great game,
    sometimes you get vanquished. Sometimes you get Front Mission
    Evolved. What?
    First of all, Vanquish is a great game.

    (01:01:11):
    That's what I'm saying. Sometimes, okay, sometimes you
    get a Vanquish. Okay, the way you ordered that,
    I was like, are we talking shit about bank?
    No, no, come across this table. Sometimes it turns out great,
    sometimes you get a Vanquish, sometimes it goes bad and you
    get front mission involved. Yeah, this is a game that I
    personally love. OK, I think this game kicks so
    much ass, but fans of the seriesstill hate this thing.

    (01:01:37):
    Someone brings up going I like it and they'll tell you why
    you're wrong. OK, This is the second lowest
    rated game in the series. It reviewed well, OK, but fans
    have like completely trashed this over the years.
    This, I love this game. This is more of a sanity check
    to be like, am I the crazy one? I need someone to come in here

    (01:01:59):
    and confirm if I'm crazy or if everyone else is wrong.
    Let's go. Do you have a guess?
    No, I'm completely in the dark. Right now, your guess is your
    game. It's time to make metal bleed.
    Ace Combat. Assault Horizon.
    Oh my God, I don't even know what to do right here.
    OK, let me see this game. I always like that we have the

    (01:02:21):
    physical game here. This is insanity, yes.
    A game in which your plane has regenerating health.
    Fuck yeah, let's bring this plane back to life.
    This is the most Xbox 360 cover I've ever seen in my life.
    Oh my God, this game. Oh my God, I'm so excited.

    (01:02:45):
    Are you ready to learn about DFMdogfight mode?
    Because this game was made for stupid Americans.
    OK, I'm excited. Let's play some fucking Ace
    Combat Assault Horizon. Listen, I understand.
    No, I don't. I don't know what's going to

    (01:03:06):
    happen here. This cover though is the most
    early 2000s ass cover I have ever seen in my life.
    What's aesthetics? Fuck aesthetics.
    Look up the cover for Ace CombatAssault Horizon, But it's two
    guys, gruff military dudes, standing back-to-back as
    explosions are happening and yousee a bunch of fighter jets.

    (01:03:27):
    This is a game that takes the Ace Combat series from the
    strange reel to the real world. You're not in Eurosia or Belky
    anymore, you're at Miami. Let's go fight in Miami.
    Hell yeah, let's go. This is a game that is so off
    the wall insane. I absolutely love it and I'm

    (01:03:49):
    surprised that the turnaround of, you know, this game is
    actually good hasn't happened yet.
    So I'm having identity crisis I need you to help me with.
    Am I insane or is there something awesome happening
    here? OK.
    We're gonna play some ace combats on Horizon and see what
    happens. Yes, you are.
    I'm very excited. It's time to make metal bleed.
    Is there like a Is there a metalcore song at the beginning of

    (01:04:11):
    this game? Not that I know of.
    They did sort of that in the AceCombat series before with Ace
    Combat 5, where a Puddle Of Muddsong was like the main theme of
    that game. Can you take it all away?
    Hey, please not. So please let's not.
    Arguably, we were already heading in that direction.
    So maybe this is the natural evolution of Ace Combat.

    (01:04:32):
    Maybe the fans are wrong. That would be great for the
    subreddit. Hi Ace Combat some Reddit.
    Other thing is what I like aboutthis is some of the stuff from
    this game. The more fast-paced Arcady Field
    would wrap its way back around to when the series comes back
    for Ace Combat 7. And I was like, this game was
    ahead of the curb in a lot of ways.

    (01:04:54):
    Well, sometimes. Like weirdly enough.
    You can drift a plane in seven. I'm like this is.
    Weirdly enough though, sometimes.
    You need. These kind of levels of like
    dramatic changes to put a game back right?
    Does that make any sense? Cuz like a series can be
    consistently good and become extremely stale and you almost

    (01:05:15):
    need this like wowed off the wall thing.
    It could be so much worse. That's kind of a weird segue
    into the franchise, what you're going to be playing.
    OK, OK, so one. More thing I want to say though,
    there was a spin off game for the 3DS called Ace Combat
    Assault Horizon Legacy and it was a remake of the fan favorite

    (01:05:36):
    Ace Combat 2. They took a previous game and
    roped it in to the Assault Horizon umbrella, so there's a
    lot of negativity with this thing.
    That's just that's just designedto piss off babe.
    OK. Much like the franchise that
    you're going to be playing, which is one of my favorite
    franchises. I have a theory.

    (01:05:57):
    You might have already played this game, OK, but I want you to
    play it if you haven't. So tell me if you haven't.
    What's one of my favorite franchises in video games,
    Michael? Resident Evil.
    Yes. OK, I have a feeling I know
    where this is going. OK.
    Remember Resident Evil also had to have a crappy Xbox 360 game
    to get things set right, which was Resident Evil 6 which you're

    (01:06:18):
    not having to play 'cause I wouldn't do that to you 'cause I
    like you too much. Fuck Resident Evil 6 it's
    horrible video. I tried to play that this year
    because I I was like I'll go back to Resident Evil 6 see how
    I feel about it. I hate that damn video Came the
    Leon campaign is OK. The Chris campaign is damn

    (01:06:39):
    boring as shit but I digress. Michael Resident Evil has mini
    spin offs. One of them I did not play until
    last year and it was originally on the three DSI believe.
    OK. Your game is Resident Evil
    Revelations have you? Played Revelations.

    (01:07:00):
    I've not played. Revelations Hell yes.
    OK Boy howdy. Resident Evil Revelations was a
    game that I so I I did a bunch of playthroughs of of some
    Resident Evil games. I played Resident Evil 8I
    replayed Resident Evil 5. I was just kind of jumping
    around and Revelations was like $2.00 on a sale.

    (01:07:21):
    So I was like, ah, it's a Jill Chris game.
    I like Jill and Chris. Let's see, I had low
    expectations. Resident Evil Revelations is
    really fucking good, man. It really good.
    It's got a weird cast, but it itweirdly feels very classic
    Resident Evil to me. While having like the Resident

    (01:07:42):
    Evil 5 style gunplay. It also does a lot of weird
    stuff with the 3DS mechanics of like searching the environment
    to find things. So you can play this on modern
    consoles. It's on Xbox, it's on
    PlayStation. Yeah, but there's like a
    mechanic that involves like zooming into the environment,

    (01:08:02):
    almost like you would like a camera mode and searching the
    environment for things. Is this a Metroid?
    Sort of. Is this a Metroid Prime?
    And you find like, you know, ammo and stuff like that with
    that way. It also is like a weirdly
    important like, step in the Resident Evil storyline to help

    (01:08:24):
    explain what Jill and Chris weredoing.
    Because if you remember after Resident Evil 3 like you don't
    see Jill again. Until 5:00.
    Until. Five, you don't see Chris again
    until 5 and there's not a lot ofexplanation of what they were
    doing because there is the Resident Evil DLC for five,

    (01:08:47):
    which is like the Jill and Chris.
    Yeah, it's like a return to Resident Evil 1 style kind of
    thing where you're in the mansion, which is very cool.
    By the way, you ever, have you ever played that?
    Which one? The DLC for Resident Evil 5.
    I've not even played five. That is insanity.
    Resident Evil 5 is not as bad asyou'd think it is.

    (01:09:08):
    Resident Evil 5 is not as good as 4 by any means of
    imagination, but Resident Evil 5is a good Co-op game.
    Of the main line series, I haven't played 5 or 6.
    Don't play 6. Yeah, but 5 is.
    Here's the thing, 5 gets a bad rap.
    OK, Does 5 have some? Like, is five more like an
    action game? Yes.
    But it still is really good and there's some cool moments in

    (01:09:31):
    five. The what?
    The West gold boss fights are really fun, man.
    You sure? I'm sure you've seen the meme.
    I've seen the meme of like, you know, I've got 10 minutes.
    But like, dude, that thing's fun.
    That's iconic. Completely global saturation.
    Yeah, dude, it's good. Shiva should pop back up in that
    franchise. I mean, I don't know what

    (01:09:51):
    happened to her or she disappears.
    Just put everyone in nine. Just just put everyone in nine.
    I'm so excited. I'm so excited.
    About that, I'm not watching a thing about.
    No, no, I'm not. Yeah, you'll need to sell me on
    that. I'm sold, bro.
    I'm sold. But no Resident Evil
    revelations. I'm excited you have not played
    it. I think you will be incredibly
    surprised at how good it is. I do have access to this game

    (01:10:16):
    I'm gonna play. I'm think I'm gonna play the
    original 3DS release of this thing.
    It would probably not be a bad idea because using the mechanic
    is used a lot where you zoom in and look through the environment
    to find things. I don't know exactly how it
    plays on the 3DS because I played it on the Xbox, but I
    imagine it would be very useful to have, so I'm excited you

    (01:10:40):
    haven't played that. Resident Evil Revelations is
    your game. For I had a feeling it was this
    one. The clues you gave me were that
    it was 3DS and that it was also on everything else.
    But it was a 3DS game verse. So my 2 guesses were either
    gonna make me play Resident EvilRevelations, or he's gonna make
    me play Shovel Knight. Shovel Knight?
    I've never played Shovel Knight,probably would like Shovel.
    Yeah, I think we'd like that too.
    Yeah, but no, I think Resident Evil Revelations is gonna be

    (01:11:03):
    fun. I'm excited.
    You haven't played it. So that's all show for the week.
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    (01:11:23):
    Like I said, next next show we'll talk Ace Combat, Salt
    Horizon and Resident Evil Revelations because we like talk
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