March 16, 2025 • 53 mins
This podcast episode emphasizes the importance of holistic treatments for women's health issues, specifically highlighting the roles of diet and naturopathy in addressing hormonal imbalances and skin conditions. Dr. Diana Drake discusses the inadequacies of traditional medicine, particularly concerning PCOS, and advocates for personalized treatment plans that prioritize understanding root causes.
• Discussion on the limitations of traditional medicine regarding women's health
• Overview of Dr. Diana Drake's journey and background in naturopathy
• Importance of recognizing the toxicity in conventional skincare products
• Deep dive into Polycystic Ovary Syndrome (PCOS) and its misdiagnosis
• The vital role of diet as medicine in managing hormonal health
• Insight into effective testing methods beyond blood work for hormonal health
• Critique of birth control as a catch-all solution for women's health issues
• Encouraging a holistic approach to health and personalized treatment plans
• Advocacy for proactive health measures and awareness in dietary choices
• Invitation to schedule a free consultation with Dr. Drake for personalized support
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello everybody, welcome to Steel Roses podcast.
This podcast was created forwomen, by women, to elevate
women's voices.
I am very excited to introduceall of you to our guest.
Today we have Dr Diana Drakewith us.
She is a board certifiedtraditional naturopath
specializing in alternativemedicine for skin, hormone and
thyroid conditions.
With a passion for holistichealing, dr Drake brings a
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unique blend of science andnature to address the root
causes of health issues.
Dr Drake practices naturopathy,tailoring personalized
treatment plans.
Her approach is biologicallycoherent and uniquely designed
for each client.
She also has her own productline, dr Dale Wellness
Homeopathic Medicine and SkinNaturopathic Herbal Supplements.
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As a respected coach and mentorto practitioners in the
wellness space, dr Drake iscommitted to empowering others
in the journey of naturalhealing.
Diana, welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Jenny Very excited, I'm very excited to have you on
because I love you know.
I think traditional medicinehas a time and a place.
You know here, you know foreverything, but I love your
approach and I love what you'redoing here.
So I would really like you tointroduce yourself to the
listeners, tell them a littlebit about how you got this area
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focused and then you know thebig items that you're seeing
that are starting to come tolight in the industry.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Yeah, absolutely so.
Before I was a naturopath atall, I actually was an
esthetician and I was alwaysvery aware of the toxicity in
skincare and the things thataffect our skin.
So I opened this holistic skinspa and, just putting the word
holistic on my business, Ireally got a lot of people that
had very severe skin conditions,that were very disillusioned
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with what was going on at thedermatologist and with their
doctors.
They don't want to be on drugs,they don't want to be told that
they need to birth control.
They wanted to know why is myacne bad?
Why can't I fix it with diet,all these things?
And I realized very quickly wow, I am not equipped at all to
call myself holistic.
So I went on to become anaturopath and, you know, from
there I went on to get, you know, a PhD.
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So I don't have any traditionalmedical training like
everything is about like plantsand you know naturopathy and
homeopathy.
But I did start with a focus inskin.
I don't do any physicalskincare anymore.
Everything you know we do iswith supplementation, you know,
for the skin now and diet.
And it's interesting becauseback then, as a new baby
naturopath, the whole thought ofspecializing in hormones and
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thyroid was very overwhelming tome.
That was not really my interestper se.
Hormones are complicated, allthese different profiles are
complicated, but it's just whatthe market and the universe was
serving me.
You know, levothyroxine is thenumber one prescribed drug in
America.
That's a huge problem.
Okay, that's, that is, you know.
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So I really figured out like wow, I need to figure out a way to
help this population of people.
And so I came across Dr Dale atone of my conventions
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no-transcript in this, and thiswas like the bulk of what I was
doing when she passed.
I mean, obviously I was upsetand it was a shock to everyone.
She didn't tell anyone she wassick.
But the second thought was ohmy God, what's going to happen
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to this medicine, like so manynaturopaths use it and so many
people rely on this.
So that's kind of how I got towhere I am.
It's just interesting.
Yeah, it was just what themarket and the universe said,
like this is what is needed.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
I was actually going to highlight exactly that line,
because your beginnings in theindustry and this is why I want
to highlight this for thelisteners too, because I think a
lot of times people get stuck.
I'm reading this book right nowand it kind of applies to this
where people have a thought onwhat they're supposed to be
doing, like this is what I thinkI'm supposed to be doing and I
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like to use those words exactly,but I think I need to wait in
this line because I have to gothrough this door.
This is my goal.
I have to get through this door.
And they'll wait in that lineforever, not realizing that
that's not really the door thatthey're supposed to be waiting
in front of.
And you took a look at what wascoming your way and you said,
like yes, and I'm going to alsodo this Like yes, I know I want
to do holistic.
I know that I'm interested here, but I'm not prepared for this.
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Maybe I'd need to get moreeducation.
You took a path that wasoutside of what you thought you
were going to do and leaned intoit, and I want to highlight
that for the listeners, becausewhen you are banging down a door
, I find myself in thissituation right now.
I am currently banging on adoor and it's not opening.
It's not easily opening for me,and so I'm taking that as
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almost a well.
Maybe that's not the door I'msupposed to be banging on.
So I wanted to just highlightthat quickly for the listeners,
because you went through adifferent door and you were able
to find this other wonderfulpath that you're able to help
all these people with.
So I want to just commend youfor that.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Thank you so much.
Yes, thank you.
And now I'm in a position, evenas I'm.
You know, I'm very young for anaturopath, like my mentors are
60, 70, you know, dr Dale passedaway, she was almost 80.
So I'm very green for anaturopath, but I am one of the.
You know more, I have moreexpertise in this because I am
so specialized.
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So now I'm at a point where Iam training other practitioners,
because we need more, more me'sand more Dr Dale's, just
because this endocrine issue isit's big, it's a problem.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
It definitely is, and I, I don't think people and I
don't want to well, we, yeah, wecan, we can digress a little
bit, but I don't think peoplerealize how significant the food
is that we're eating inrelation to our hormones, to
everything, and even myself.
The first, the first chat youand I had, I think I might have,
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I think I might have been atthat point talking about
potentially thinking I was inperimenopause and I was like, oh
, I'm shifting my diet, I'mtrying all these different
things.
I think I was taking magnesiumat that point and L-theanine and
I was just trying everythingbecause I was just feeling so
crummy and I was like, oh, itmust be perimenopause and maybe
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I need to change all thesethings about me.
And I think that, like, peopledon't realize that the food that
you're taking in, like that'sgoing to affect you current day
and it's going to affect yourlife.
So for you, in this space Imean, food is medicine is
something that you would reallyrecommend and say to people.
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Like you can look to food.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yeah, absolutely, and there are certain things at
some point when the endocrinesystem has gone down, like there
are certain things that foodcan't do.
For example, if you're goingthrough menopause and we want
more native production ofhormones, your ovaries are
shutting down, but we canactually get more hormones out
of your adrenals with homeopathy.
That's something that foodcan't do, but what you are
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saying is so spot on.
That's why I love hopefullyyour listeners have heard of Dr
Casey Means and she's just onthis rampage talking about how
this all starts with ourchildhood diet.
You know, like all the sugar andall the carbohydrates, this is
leading to insulin resistanceand elevated androsynodiones and
that's what's causing all theacne and the period problems and
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the infertility and all thesethings, and that is you know.
Going back to what you weresaying, what am I seeing the
most?
It's that metabolic dysfunction.
And you know, if you are anaware or awake parent and you
see that your child has badperiods or they're missing
periods, or if you have a sonwith acne, you know a male with
really bad acne, um, and you'reevolved enough to know, okay, I
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need, we need to see anaturopath about this, and
hopefully that naturopathunderstands the metabolic
component.
That's really important tostart catching that at that age,
because by the time we're, youknow, 15, 14 and start cycling
or start going through puberty,we have accumulated all those
years of ourselves being builton junk, the wrong oils, not
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enough nutrition, the sugars,like just the crap, and then,
yeah, as we ate, it's just ahuge problem.
I mean, 99.9% of women thatcome to me have PCOS.
Okay, they have the elevatedeosinodione levels, which
doctors are not checking.
When a woman goes in when she's16 and she's not having her
periods enough, or her periodsare bad and she has acne, they
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don't even do a hormone test.
They just say here's your birthcontrol, see you later.
And if they did happen to run ahormone test, let's say a mom
says no, I want a hormone test,here's what you're going to get.
You're going to get a bloodtest with three values estrogen,
progesterone and testosterone.
And if that looks okay, they'llsay, oh, you're fine.
Now maybe, if you're reallylucky, you'll get a pelvic
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ultrasound and they'll say, oh,you have cysts, you have PCOS.
They'll still give you birthcontrol, but at least you know
you have PCOS.
But here's the caveat Sometimesyou don't have cysts and you
may still have PCOS because it'sthat metabolic component that's
leading to the excess androgensin the system.
So I really specialize in takingsaliva labs for our data.
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So blood's like the last thingwe want.
Urine's a little better, butsaliva is the best.
That's how we really get thebioavailability from the
endocrine system to see what'sactually active, and we just get
so many more values, includingthat androstenedione.
So that's a take home foreveryone that I want you guys to
understand If you yourself orif you have a child that has
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acne period problems,infertility, very intense PMS
symptoms, make sure you getthose androstenedion levels
checked, via saliva preferably,to assess that.
Now there's other ways you canlook at metabolic dysfunction.
You know A1C, insulin, glucose,things like that.
But it's when it gets tocreating that excess
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androstenedion that we have alot of other problems too.
But there's a lot of ways tolook at this.
So I really love the CaseyMeans book.
Dr Casey Means book Good Energyhave you read it yet?
Speaker 1 (10:29):
No, I haven't read it yet, it's in my list.
It's in my list.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Anybody.
If you are a parent, you needto read it.
This should be a reading inschool truly.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
I wanted to point something out, because you
mentioned it a few times, and Ihappen to know about this just
because of my experience inindustry that birth control
tends to be almost like acatch-all and and it's across
the board, because it's acne,they'll say painful periods like
here you go, endometriosis,here you go there.
There is literally like thepatch is always like oh, here,
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go ahead, go on birth control.
I was given it recently, likelast year or so.
I was having really badendometriosis pain and the
doctor was like, well, let'sjust try birth control, you know
as a, as the primary, likelet's go with that.
And I took it one day, one dose, and I just felt awful and and
I said to myself I'm like youknow, I'm like I'm literally
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putting hormones into my body,like this doesn't have to be the
way to go.
And I do believe in medicine.
I believe medicine is important, it has a time and a place.
There's certain things that youabsolutely go for.
I'm all about it, I'm on thatbus, but I think that there's
something else that you said toois that there's almost in
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health, healthcare, there is arule book that has to be
followed, and when you go into adoctor, number one.
They're given a very limitedamount of time to see you
because of insurance, and soyour time is incredibly short.
And then there's literallygo-to tests that they will do
and go-to products that they'regoing to recommend to you.
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This does not mean anythingunderhanded is happening.
This just means that these arethe things that are approved,
that they're allowed to do.
That is acceptable and they'regoing to do it because insurance
will cover it and this is okayand we're checking off these
boxes.
It doesn't mean that it's theright path for you and you could
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spend ages, you could spendyears going to traditional
doctors and being pointed down apath that you're not supposed
to be on.
I'm going to use my cousin asan example here.
She, from a very young age, washaving horrendous joint pain,
just horrendous joint pain, andso much so that she ended up
going to the Children's Hospitalof Philadelphia Like she was
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just in a tremendous amount ofpain, and the doctors had no
idea what was going on.
They ran every test that theycould think of.
They could not figure out whatwas wrong with her.
They sent her home with my auntand just said it's just growing
pains, you just have to dealwith it.
It's just growing pains.
That was the first marker.
Her whole life she had migraines, she had dizziness, she had
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trouble losing weight, she wasreally overweight, her skin was
bad, like she had all thesethings just kept snowballing
until she got to her.
I want to say it was her earlyknees and this was like the
straw that broke the camel'sback.
So she ended up like having togo.
She was seeing neurologistslike she was just trying,
desperately trying, to find ananswer.
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She ends up with this oneneurologist who happens to say
to her have you ever been testedfor celiacs?
And she was like no, like whatis that?
Had no idea what it was.
And so he directs her and sayslike you really, what is that?
Had no idea what it was.
And so he directs her and saysyou really actually have to go
see somebody else.
You should see somebodyholistic.
She started going down thisother path.
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Turns out she had celiacs.
Everything that was going wrongin her body was because of
inflammation and as soon as sheeliminated gluten from her diet,
everything was fine.
Everything was fine.
Yeah, and it's a tremendousstory because it's this one
thing that could really becausing an issue.
And the other part here that Iwant to highlight is that the
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interesting thing is thatthere's a whole generation my
mother's generation, was taughtthat if you are allergic to
something, you should introduceit into your diet in small doses
until your body adjusts to it.
And they've actually said thisto me a couple of times.
My aunts get on my case becausewe don't do dairy at our house.
Kids have a lactose intoleranceand so we stopped it, like six
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or seven years ago.
Well to them, they're like well, this is the only way you can
get calcium.
You're doing your you're.
You're doing your children adisservice.
You know like they need todrink milk, and I'm like but
they're.
It's making them sick.
And in my head I'm thinking ofmy cousins.
I'm like if I continue to givemy kids milk, my daughters, when
they were drinking milk, wereso puffy and swollen and just
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vomiting all the time.
I'm like I would never do thatat this point.
So it's an interesting yeah,it's an interesting to me what?
And every time they bring it up, they're like oh, yeah, you
should introduce it slowly.
I'm like but that's insane,they're allergic to it.
Yeah, I'm like.
No, and I think I want to alsohighlight here, too, that you do
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have to press and ask for askfor the test that Diana is
talking about as well, becauseso if you just get that regular
hormone test with your blood andit's like, oh, these three are
fine, you're all good, youreally do have to press further.
Yes, it's something else thatwon't happen.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
The saliva testing and the urine testing these are
all done by private labs.
This is not something that'scovered by insurance, so you're
often left having to foot thebill for these things, but
typically it's worth it andobviously doctors can't know
everything.
It's not a mystery.
We know that they get nonutrition training in school, so
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they obviously would have notraining on food sensitivities.
So she got lucky that sheactually got a neurologist that
knew something.
And you know, I get a lot ofclients that come and they're
pissed off.
They are pissed off at theirdoctors, they're pissed off at
what's happened in Westernmedicine and I think I don't
even like to call it Westernmedicine, or I don't think it's
medicine at all.
It's drugs, it's not medicine.
Real medicine heals.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
It's drugs.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yeah, but I, you know , I'm constantly reminding
people the model is diagnose andtreat with drugs and surgery.
So we can't be mad at them.
That's what they are trained todo and doing their job.
If you don't like that, youdon't participate in it, right,
no?
But the more people kind ofjust start to learn like, look
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that there are, you don't haveto do it, you know, but that's
what they are trained to do.
So we can't really be mad at.
We should be mad at the systemand those that are training the
doctors.
But yeah, people definitelycome pretty disillusioned with
what's going on with Westernmedicine, for sure.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
It's definitely it's hard to.
I pay attention to the industryquite a bit and it's hard to
see it and it's hard to talkwith my family members that are
having health issues too.
Where they're being, myfather-in-law was given a
medicine for his heart.
It's making him incredibly sickand they're like you're going
to have to just get used to it.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Like that and drug it's a yeah, oh.
Here's the thing these chronicissues, that is what we don't.
We should not be using drugsfor.
Those are the things that wecan really do well with herbs,
homeopathy, diet and lifestylechanges.
Another thing I was going tosay on that the birth control
topic is you're right, it is acatch-all unless you are trying
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to prevent pregnancy.
That is the only, that's theonly reason that you should.
That is it.
Don't use it for your skin, foryour periods, anything else,
because I'll tell you this, justlike with any other drug, if
you are on that drug for threeyears, five years, 15 years, the
root cause is going to continueto rage in your body unchecked
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for all of those years.
And that's the real problemhere.
It's not treating rootcausality.
And again, I get it when you'rea young teenager, the hormones
are high.
If you have a partner and youcan't control yourself, that's
what it's for.
That's such a small amount.
I mean now, it's so overused.
And then we've got thespironolactone and the Accutane
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and using antibiotics and allthese things.
It's just not, Are you?
Speaker 1 (18:28):
seeing any patterns or are you seeing more of a
prevalence with hormonedysfunction?
Or are you seeing more of aprevalence with hormone
dysfunction now?
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yes, lots of patterns .
So a range of people come to meright from the teenage part all
the way through menopause.
So what's going on with theseteenagers is the bad acne, the
PCOS in women, and that reallyneeds to be.
A lot of dietary changes needto be made from that.
Now people are really obsessedwith the food sensitivity thing,
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right?
People think I need to know myfood sensitivities and yes, you
do.
But the reality is if you havemetabolic dysfunction, you have
got to get off of sugars andprocessed grains and seed oils
three big time no-nos.
If you can do that, we cancorrect the rest gently with
supplementation.
But that needs to be like thefundamental thing with the diet.
And you know what the problemis in America that's all our
diet is.
I know, think about when I waslittle like we had beautiful
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meals on the table every night,but what do you think I was
eating during the day?
Goldfish, crackers, fruit bythe foot, lollipops, candy Like
I wasn't allowed to have soda,but like junk.
It's still junk food.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
It's still junk, yeah .
Speaker 2 (19:38):
That's the problem.
So we really need to clean uppeople's diet.
So that's the bigger trend withthe teenagers right.
Then we have the people kind ofthe next age group, the late
20s and 30s, that can't getpregnant because they have
undiagnosed PCOS.
So PCOS really another term forit could be diabetes of the
ovaries and it really is kind ofa broken ovulation cycle.
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So you could still be ovulatingbut the eggs aren't a good
quality.
Maybe you're I mean you justit's you just you can't get
pregnant and hormones are low,egg quality isn't where it needs
to be.
So with them and a lot of timeslike I've had women come to me.
They're like I've been doingIVF for five years I don't even
know if I can do this andtypically I can get them
pregnant.
Sometimes it takes a month,sometimes it takes two years,
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but typically we can get themthere.
So that's kind of the nextgroup of people and that's like
using a lot of homeopathy justto correct what's going on with
the endocrine system.
So homeopathy and this is whatfood can't do Homeopathy gives a
signal to your cell.
That's almost like giving it ablueprint of saying wake up,
this is what we want you to do.
Then you detoxify and justhomeopathy is a really beautiful
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way of talking to the system.
Actually, the concept ofvaccines is a stolen thing from
homeopathy.
That's what homeopathy is it'staking an original medium and
diluting it and then giving itto the body in that frequency.
We just don't have to inject itand add poisons to it.
If the government really wantedto give us a flu shot or
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inoculate us from any sort ofdisease, they can make a $4
homeopathic remedy for everybodyand give it out.
You don't have to be.
I am obviously an anti-vaxxer,but I'm not against inoculation
if that's important to someone.
But it doesn't have to be donewith a lethal injection.
It could literally be done witha sublingual homeopathic remedy
that is very affordable.
Okay, I was on a tangent and Igot lost.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
No, no, no, no, I liked it.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Okay.
So yes, we can kind ofreprogram and reawaken native
production right of hormones.
Next group is going to be mymenopause women, menopausal
women their biggest frustrationis their weight and you know a
lot of them.
I've tried this diet.
I've tried this diet and thekey to keeping weight off as we
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age is actually the opposite ofwhat we have been taught our
whole lives and that is like lowfat, stay away from fat.
No, we need to have actually alot of fat, the good fat you
know from organic sources andavocados and all of that, but
like a lot of fat.
Fat actually kind of signalsthe body to make muscle.
Then we need protein toactually make the muscle.
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But I put these women on ahealthy, higher fat diet and
they lose a lot of weight.
Then we do the homeopathy.
Obviously it's not going to gethormone levels like it can with
HRT or like your when you're 20, but we can get you back into
normal range for menopausebecause we are still supposed to
make hormones through menopausenot as high as before, but we
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are supposed to make some.
But the problem is menopausalwomen are making zero and that's
the issue for them.
So all these things can becorrected with homeopathy and
diet.
So that kind of higher fat dietwith no seed oils, no processed
grains.
So that's all the fun stuff thebread, the pasta and no grains,
even no rice, no quinoa, justlike no grains, no processed
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grains, no seed oils, no sugar.
Just take that out and it willreally help reset your body's
metabolism.
And then with homeopathy anddetoxification we can get things
in a better place so you're nothaving all the negative side
effects.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
You know, it is interesting because I'm not
menopausal quite yet.
I'm peri just by definition,just because of my age.
But I noticed, with my dietcleanup this year, and
especially in the past sixmonths, I've gotten much more
fine tuned with what I'm doingand in the past couple of weeks
which I'm going to tell you whynow I've had to really get more
focused on making sure that I amgetting a lot of nutrition from
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my food.
You will be mad at me in aminute.
I was slacking and I starteddoing intermittent fasting.
So I was like I haven't notlosing any weight.
I'm getting really mad.
I was just getting reallyfrustrated and one of the other
moms that I'm friends with saidto me she's like you know, try
this out.
I couldn't lose any weight.
This, this, really worked forme.
So I started doing it and I'mdropping weight.
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But there's a whole like okay,yes, you're dropping weight, but
you have to also be exercising,lifting weights, because you're
losing muscle.
You know, and at my age I justturned 41 on December 1st I just
had my birthday, I'm rightbehind you, honey.
I'm behind you too much.
I'm like super excited andproud of it.
That's why I talk about turning41.
But so I, you know, I know themuscle loss is really a big deal
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for women our age, so you knowthat's something to be cognizant
of.
What started happening, though,was that because I was
intermittent fasting, I alsowasn't paying attention to how
much nutrients I was gettingwith my food during my little
window you know my eight-hourwindow for eating, and so I
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would get wrapped up in work,I'd get caught up with something
with the kids or what have you,and I'm like, oh, let me just
grab like a macro bar, or let mejust grab something quick.
And the last time you and Iconnected, I think I had might
have shared with you like that Iget.
I was getting like reallyterrible fatigue and mood swings
and brain fog like God awful,to the point where, like, I
couldn't even string wordstogether.
Like it was really, really bad,and for someone who likes to
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talk as much as I, do, not beingable to string words together
is a problem.
So I ended up going to the mywent to my OB, because I really
was like I'm in perimenopause,like it's happening.
This is what it is.
This is why I feel like crap.
And they're like let's do apanel and see what's really
happening.
And what they came back withwas that I'm actually anemic and
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that was really a bigger issue.
So I took that and I startedexamining my diet and so now I'm
being very mindful of okay, amI getting my leafy greens every
single day?
And like that's where I'm overindexing.
I'm still going work with ahematologist.
I'm gonna go visit one and makesure that you know I you know
(25:39):
see what's what.
But I'm at the point where I'mlike I want to treat this with
food, like I want to treat thiswith something where I can like
supplement myself and just makesure, like you're eating healthy
.
So, even though I'm avegetarian, I was like I will
eat eggs.
You know I'll try to like pullsome things in.
So for dinner you have to laughat it my dinner this evening
(26:01):
was like a bowl of a small bowlof black beans, spinach, a side
of spinach and like a side oflike eggs, and that was like my
meal, because it honestly feelsreally good to eat that way.
And alternatively, when I likehave a cheat and I eat a grain
exactly what you were justtalking about.
Like I don't.
I really I don't eat pastaanymore.
I don't eat white bread.
(26:22):
Like I'm trying to be verycareful and the times that I do
have some, I'm immediately likelethargic or I'm immediately
like not feeling well.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Yeah, and that example, that's the perfect
example of how to use food asmedicine.
Right, try that.
First see where you get andthen, if that you know, if you
can't get enough from food, thenyou can bring in an iron
supplement or whatever it is youwant to do.
But this is how we shouldreally be thinking First, what
can I do with my diet to help meeat this way?
(26:53):
Or, you know, excuse me, tohelp me get what I need from
food first, okay, and then wedon't, can't do that, then we
bring in nutrition.
You know, I see that a drug isthere.
If we have exhausted everythingelse and nothing else is
working, great, then we can gotake drugs.
Not in the iron case, it wouldjust be, you know, we could get
you on a supplement.
But you know, in a lot of othercholesterol thing, um, you know
(27:16):
I actually very sad story, butmy mother had her first heart
attack when I was seven yearsold and her they were like oh,
your cholesterol is too high,we're going to put you on this
statin drug and we shouldprobably check your daughter
because this seems to be verygenetic with your family.
And I had high cholesterol too.
So I went on a statin drug Fastforward.
Now both of our cholesterol isin range.
Mine was through the roof.
(27:36):
It was like almost 600.
Okay, oh my gosh.
She then passed away when I was23 from her second heart attack
and the first thing I thought,besides being devastated from
that is am I going to, could Idie too?
I'm supposed to be on this drugthat, if my cholesterol is in
range, is supposed to, like,protect me.
You know Not that a doctor canguarantee if you do this drug
(27:58):
you're not going to have a heartattack.
But that's when I really wokeup.
That's when I really realizedsomething is wrong with Western
medicine.
And now, being what I am now, Iunderstand there are so many
important things that go intocardiovascular wellness and for
her, having high cholesterol isa piece of metabolic dysfunction
too.
So she also probably had somePCOS, some metabolic dysfunction
(28:23):
that was going on, some insulinresistance that was causing the
elevated cholesterol and allkinds of other things that led
to this whole situation.
That happened and it's justreally sadly, could have been
preventable if I knew then whatI knew now.
Right, how often have we saidthat?
Speaker 1 (28:40):
You know, I have to tell you I am so I'm very sorry
to hear that you lost yourmother, that's, you know.
I am very sorry to hear that.
What I want to say here is thatthat moment was pivotal for you
and I feel like that is a bigdefining thing for you for what
you're doing now, because that'sone of those things and I mean,
(29:01):
I don't know for sure, butthat's how I'm taking it as soon
as you said it, I was like oh,there, it is Like that was your
that's the genesis tree.
That was your catalyst rightthere.
That was like hey, there arepeople out here that are
probably dropping like flies,you know, because they're
leaning on Western medicine orthey're leaning on
over-the-counter medicine tohelp get them through things and
(29:24):
it's really just putting aband-aid, it's just putting a
patch.
It's not actually fixing theissue.
Like what you said, you knowyou could take, you know,
hormone therapy for acne, butwhat the root cause of the issue
is, you're not addressing that.
So that problem is always goingto be there and it's probably
going to get worse becauseyou're right, You're still,
you're still antagonizing it.
(29:46):
You're just putting a patch ontop of it to hope that it'll be
okay.
But it's just going to getworse.
And honestly, I mean, I remembergrowing up and people that I
knew in my neighborhood had likehorrendous acne and honestly, I
mean I remember growing up andpeople that I knew in my
neighborhood had like horrendousacne and it was always like
just put some cream, put somecreams on it, It'll be fine and
it's really not, and they had tolive their whole lives like
(30:08):
that.
I also knew there was a womanthat I think she might've been
in her late thirties, early 40s,a woman that I used to work
with and this is a sad example,but this was something that also
gave me a kick in my butt whenI heard about this.
She was chronic, you know,workaholic, chronic overworker,
like just constantly justputting, using patches for every
(30:31):
illness was like what can Itake over the over the counter
one of those people?
And she didn't pay attention,she wasn't mindful with her body
and she ended up having it wasa UTI that got backed up into
her kidneys, eventually wentseptic because again, she was
just over the counter treatingand she ended up dying.
(30:51):
She was leaving her house withher fiance dropped dead on her
front lawn because she justabused her body to the point of
that was it?
It's over and it couldliterally happen to any of us.
And I think this is somethingthat I'm going to soapbox on
this for a minute, because evenme, as a woman, I have this
(31:13):
problem.
After I had my kids, I didn'tgo to the doctor at all and I
had loads of health issues for areally long time and I never
really paid attention and I justkept my head down and kept
going.
And if you are not feeling well, you have to take action.
You have to do something,Because you could just be
delaying and delaying, anddelaying and in the meantime,
(31:35):
these issues are building inyour body.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yeah, absolutely.
And don't get me wrong, youguys, you know there have been
times when, you know, I had aclient, for example, that had
severe inflammation, like fromher ear, all through the right
side of her neck, and I said youhave got to see a medical
doctor just to rule out.
And she was like, well, I don'twant to, I don't like to see
(31:59):
doctors.
I like you know there's a lotof mucus and I feel like it's
some sort of virus, and I saidthat's fine, but let's just
verify that.
And it turned out that it wascancer.
So there are some things youknow I am not a medical doctor.
I cannot diagnose somethinglike that.
So there are some things thatwe absolutely need Western
medicine for.
For sure.
Yeah, but yeah, it's like takeaction and the first person you
(32:24):
pick might not be the rightperson you work with and maybe
we have to refer out.
And maybe you have a team ofpeople.
Yeah, but take actionDefinitely, because if we don't
feel well, something needs toget better, definitely.
And people walking around withacne it's not normal Just
because a lot of teenagers haveit.
That just shows that we have anunhealthy teenage population,
(32:46):
because they've been eatingsugar and carbs their whole life
and their mother probably hadgestational diabetes because she
was probably also eating sugar.
I mean, what do you think wecrave when we're pregnant?
Yeah, you know, spinach.
No.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
No, definitely not, Definitely not, spinach.
We talked a lot we talked.
You mentioned PCOS a couple oftimes and I want to make sure
for the listeners that theyunderstand what PCOS is, Cause I
remember at one point like Ihad even thought about that for
myself, like many, many moonsago.
So baseline like what, whatexactly is PCOS?
(33:19):
If somebody's listening andthey don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
So it stands for polycystic ovarian syndrome.
But again, you might notnecessarily have the cysts Most
of us do but sometimes,sometimes they come and go too
right.
So if you happen to get apelvic ultrasound while they're
not there, you might be told youdon't have PCOS and it's an
improper diagnosis.
But basically there are somecases of PCS that don't have a
metabolic component to it, butthat's a little more rare.
(33:42):
But pretty much this is insulinresistance, which means our
blood sugars are too high, it'snot getting in and out of the
cell, so it's not being used forfuel, so we're not properly
turning our food into fuel, andthis just causes a cascading
thing of problems.
So then the ovaries startmaking too much androstenedione,
which is that type ofandrostenedone that we don't
want, and then that leads to acertain set of symptoms.
(34:05):
So I'm going to tell you guysthese symptoms and if you have
like two or more of these, youprobably, you most likely, have
PCOS or you should get checked.
So, or more of these, youprobably you most likely have
PCOS or you should get checked.
So easiest thing is going to beacne, okay.
Then periods when I tell youthat your period should not be a
horrifying event for you.
(34:25):
I mean it.
I used to be bedridden on myperiod and I had horrible acne.
I was just given birth control.
But now that I know this andI've been working on it, I can
barely feel my period coming andout of 10, my cramps will maybe
get to a two now and they wereabove a 10 back in the day,
right.
So if you have an uncomfortableperiod to the point where you
feel like you need to take drugsor it's literally interfering
(34:49):
with your life, something iswrong.
That is not normal.
You might have excess hair onyour face as a woman.
If something is wrong that isnot normal you might have excess
hair on your face as a woman,like dark hairs a little more
than maybe seems normal, justmore pretty severe symptoms
around your period.
So bad PMS, really moody, can'tsleep.
Extra bloating Don't get mewrong.
A little bloating is normal,but really the period should not
be this huge event Like youshould be able to go on with
(35:11):
your life, maybe a little moretired, okay, yes, maybe a little
cramps, but it shouldn't be badThen on the other.
So it's bad periods on one side.
Oddly, you could also have notenough periods, so you could
have, you could be skipping them.
You only get them every threemonths.
When they come, they're reallylight, so you could be on one
side of the spectrum or theother with periods.
Then, once you start to try toconceive, if you're having
(35:33):
trouble, you want to get checkedfor PCOS, but the big things
are going to be the acne,trouble with your cycle, excess
facial hair.
Another thing is stubborn bellyfat.
If you start and you guys haveseen this now kids just running
around overweight, okay, sothese things are starting early
and earlier.
But you and for me, like mystubborn belly fat didn't happen
(35:55):
until I was a little older,like in my late 20s, and I was
like huh, that's interesting,like why can't I get this off?
Now that's part of the PCOS,you know?
Um, so pretty.
If you have any of those things, or you suspect, but I'm
telling you most of us have it,I'm not surprised, because I
would be certain that most of ushave it as well.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
And I'm laughing.
I'm laughing because of whatyou said with period should not
be this horrifying event.
I'm laughing because it'sunfortunate.
A lot of us are conditioned tobelieve that that it's supposed
to take you out, like yourperiod, like that's it.
You get your period, you'redown for the count for X amount
(36:38):
of days.
I knew I had some friends whenwe were, when I was in grammar
school, that would get theirperiod for like 14 days and it
was like really heavy.
And I remember like thinking tomyself, like God, like you know
what's normal here?
Like how are we supposed toknow, and how are young girls
(37:00):
supposed to know, if whatthey're having, what's going on
with them, is normal or not?
And, on the flip of it as well,because it's been so normalized
through generational lines,certain things they're like oh
yeah, really painful periods arenormal for us, like it's
actually not.
So that is, your period is ahuge indicator.
(37:22):
It's not just like oh yes, nowyou're a woman.
This is actually a really bigindicator for your uterine
health.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Yeah, yeah, totally.
It's a big like.
We should be learning this inschool.
When your period comes, we needto discuss it, yeah.
It's not just like what is thepain, what is the lethargic,
like all these things.
Yeah, there's a lot of thingswe need to learn in school.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
It's.
It's crazy because I think backnow, for example, like I just
learned about cycle thinkinglike right, like that was like
brand new information to me.
And I just learned about cyclethinking like right, like that
was like brand new informationto me.
And I just turned, I'm 41.
I'm like, how is this newinformation?
I'm embarrassed that it's newinformation, like we should all
know about cycle thinking.
Yeah, but the the period thing Iremember, like I flashed back
to like when I was in fifthgrade and we got the talk right.
(38:07):
The boys were separated outfrom the girls and I went to
Catholic school, so you couldimagine how this talk was and it
was very just.
Here you go, this is abiological thing that happens to
you monthly, and here are somepads and that's it.
Like that was it.
That was as far as thediscussion went, right.
We don't warn us or anything.
It's terrible, that was it.
And you know women, young girls,are going through this, not
(38:31):
really understanding what'sgoing on, and then there's this
prevalence of embarrassment, sothey don't want to ask is it
normal for this to be coming outof me?
Is this normal to feel this way?
Am I supposed to be this pissedoff during my period, like they
really don't know, and majorityof women that, like adult women
, are walking around too notreally educated about what their
(38:54):
body is supposed to be goingthrough.
So it's it's a huge gap in justour education as women in
general.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
And to your point earlier, my mom didn't have bad
periods, so she was able to tellme wow, like this is I never.
Mine were not like this.
But now, the now, all the nowthat we all have PCOS, like,
let's say, I never learned thatif I had a daughter, I would be
like, oh yeah, that's normal,it's sorry, it's terrible.
You know what I mean.
Like if I never knew.
So it's like once, now that theold generation's gone, we now,
(39:26):
we think it's normal and we'rethe ones having the kids.
So it's, it's like disappearingwhat's normal.
Like doctors are telling youknow how eczema in babies is
just so prevalent.
Yes, well, doctors are tellingthese mothers you know what?
It's very common, don't worryabout it.
Just because it's commondoesn't mean that it's normal or
okay.
Actually, no, this is a, thisis a problem with your.
(39:48):
There is something going onhere, you know, but it's just
like everything is, everythingbecomes normalized.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
You're right and you know what.
Now that you mentioned that, Ihave to tell you all three of my
kids I didn't have eczema.
My husband didn't have eczema.
My oldest stepdaughter, she hadit when she was a teen.
She had it really bad on herstomach.
All three of my kids had skinconditions and have skin
conditions.
My son just came to me todayactually, and was like Mommy,
(40:17):
the patches are back and he haslittle patches on his arms and I
was treating it with like whatwas it that?
Salicylic cream, Like salicylicacid.
Thank you, Okay, that was oneof the ones.
I think CeraVe has a productthat worked well for him, but
that was my immediate go-to andnow that we're talking through
(40:37):
this, I'm like you know, maybeit is something in his diet that
, or most likely, it's somethingin his diet that's triggering.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Okay, I have comments here.
We could do a whole show on thereal cause of inflammatory skin
conditions.
But number one, cerave is junk,okay.
Number one, cerave is junk.
Okay, it's full of toxins.
I think you're probably sayinghyaluronic acid, because
salicylic acid would like be agentle exfoliator.
I don't know, maybe you areputting that on it and it's
(41:04):
making it better.
I would think maybe that couldbe a little burny for him.
Yeah, I have to look at thething.
But and listen, you're notdoing anything wrong.
Cerave spends millions ofdollars influencing
dermatologists and running adson television that makes you
think that this is a healthyproduct for skin, when it's not.
So you're not doing anythingwrong.
(41:24):
You're just like, oh my gosh,like they've imprinted in your
mind that that's what to use.
So when we are expressing a skincondition like eczema and
psoriasis, really this is anoverburdened immune system that
is now pushing things out of theskin.
So how does our immune systemget overburdened?
This has nothing to do withcatching germs or viruses.
(41:45):
No, the immune system's job isto determine self from non-self,
since we are already a bag ofgerms.
That's not what's going on here.
Really, it's toxemia yourimmune system is looking at.
Is this toxic or is itnutrition?
That's it.
So he has a personal question.
But did you vax him when he wasa baby?
I did, okay, so you didn't knowany better for that either.
(42:09):
But that tends to be the immuneinsult on the newborn babies.
That's the insult.
And then, if you think aboutthis, this is really sad.
Babies are born with over 350known toxins in their umbilical
cord blood, and that was fromlike seven years ago, that
statistic.
Plastics, pesticides, heavymetals, glyphosate, you name it.
(42:32):
So we are so toxic as mothersand our toxic blood is going
into our toxic baby.
Then they come out and then weshoot them up with toxins, then
we give them our toxic breastmilk and toxic, toxic, toxic,
toxic, right.
So the one thing I do withmothers that want to get ready
for pregnancy is like intensedetoxification to help mitigate
this.
But here's my point.
So he comes out, he's toxic, hegets shot with toxins.
(42:56):
It's too much for the immunesystem.
It's not going out the normalpathways the kidney, the liver,
the colon so it gets in thelymph and he's pushing it out of
his skin.
So the way to heal that andthis could also be from a leaky
gut as well, right, stuff'sgetting out literally out of the
gut into the lymphatic and itis pushed out the skin and then
(43:16):
the skin's having a reaction.
So really, detoxification isimportant for him and then you
want to heal the gut.
So this, my skin naturopathicsbrand is very, very focused on
that and we also have, you know,chinese herbs that are good for
itching and cooling andeverything is internal.
So, but that's a huge.
This baby eczema thing is ahuge problem, huge problem.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
You know one thing on the vaccines, because I know
that you could probably go deepthere I did vaccinate all of my
kids, but I have to tell youwhen I got to a certain point
where I was beginning to getvery uncomfortable about it,
because the twins were the twinsespecially my son didn't have
it as much, but the girls hadhorrendous reactions when they
(44:02):
would get their vaccines.
And I mean they've since agedout and they're it's.
It's a non like we don't.
We don't do anything that'srecommended at this point
because I have my beliefs.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
And it's true, it actually happened to one of your
children.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
Well, and the girls would I mean?
Anytime they got a shot, theirarm would swell up so badly and
be like a baseball on their armand it would scar their arm and
leave marks on their skin, andto the point where, when they
would get a vaccine, I wouldhave to give them Benadryl.
And then, even in doing that, Iremember being like this is
insane.
I'm giving them something.
(44:45):
And again, at the time I'm amom, I'm like I got to do this,
this is what I'm being told, Ihave to do this, and so I did it
.
And now, post, I'm like youknow, okay, I'm very mindful now
of well, just because it'sbeing promoted to me, especially
since I know so much aboutmarketing, I'm like just because
it's being promoted to medoesn't necessarily mean that
(45:08):
this is what is supposed to bein my kids, or in me or you know
anybody else?
Speaker 2 (45:12):
Yeah, the vaccine companies are in business to
make money.
It's it's not about our health,it is about money,
unfortunately, and I'm sorrythat that happened to them.
You know I've had I had aclient that had twins and one of
them died upon vaccination thatnight.
You know these are reallyserious things.
And again, I'm not againstinoculation.
If we want to inoculatechildren, we can give them
homeopathy and there are nonegative side effects to it you
(45:34):
know like that's a seriousoption that we could take
advantage of.
Yeah, and it's really.
You know it's terrible.
They scare you, they bully you,but you know it comes down to
the argument of like, whetheryou believe that we were created
or not.
It's like we have this innateimmune system and the moment you
give a vaccine, it messes withthe system.
(45:55):
It messes with the response.
Doctors are now coming out andsaying my population of kids
that weren't vaccinated arehealthier, they're in here less.
They're only in here for theiryearly checkups, instead of
coming in with strep and earinfections and mono and all
these things.
And so we really have to startto question this germ theory
model of like.
Is everyone really making eachother sick, or are our immune
(46:16):
systems just so down that we'reso sensitive to oxidative stress
and toxicity that we're justconstantly sick?
Speaker 1 (46:23):
I mean, it's really, it's terrible, that's that and
also it's also the combinationof things that we're putting in
our bodies today that aresocially acceptable and almost
pushed upon us Like.
I just had a very intensediscussion with somebody
recently about alcohol and howthat impacts your immune system
(46:43):
and the huge impact alcohol hason your health.
And I'm not talking like oh,your looks, yeah, your looks for
sure, but like your actualimmune system yeah, absolutely.
Deter deteriorates with alcohol.
You're literally poisoning yourbody.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
Yeah, I mean you've literally.
If you have too much, you willliterally puke and be like
because your body's repelling it.
Yes, I don't drink alcohol.
Maybe a couple of times a yearI'll have a couple of drinks and
I'm like I don't need to dothat.
Right, I love taking a potgummy instead.
That's really fun.
You just laugh and stay hydratedand wake up fun, and you know
(47:20):
so I'm I'm much more into that,but you know what.
Another thing is caffeine.
Oh right, we were going to talkabout caffeine.
Yes, go ahead, it's on everycorner.
And when you take homeopathicmedicine, the first thing I have
to do is take people off ofcaffeine.
Number one, because thefrequency of caffeine doesn't
work with homeopathy.
It just renders the medicinedead.
So it's a waste of money, right?
So that's the first piece.
(47:40):
Secondarily, if you're goingthrough menopause and I'm trying
to get hormone production outof your adrenals, you can't
really be putting them on aroller coaster of up and down
crashing with caffeine.
And people are really resistantto this, like they're like man.
I don't know if I can do that.
And then I give them thislittle speech, which is do you
know what caffeine actually is?
(48:04):
It is the insecticide of a plantthat the plant makes so that it
won't get eaten by bugs.
So it's literally a defensechemical that happens to be in
the plant.
Bugs will eat it and if theyeat too much, they die.
It's literally so toxic andwe're in.
It's on every corner.
And I remember I in high school, we would go to Starbucks and
get our frappuccinos with ourwhippy things on it.
So it's like caffeine bomb,sugar bomb, dehydrate your body
(48:26):
bomb.
It's just like it's so grossbut it's so acceptable.
I love my morning coffee fixLike you're bragging about
toxins but we just don't evenknow.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
You're right, it's a huge marketing package and as a
really avid coffee drinker, Ican tell you that there was a
morning recently where I had runout and I didn't realize it,
and I start my days at likefive-ish, 5 am, 5.30.
And so I came down and I'mlooking for that, and I start my
days at like five ish, 5am, 530.
And so I came down and I'mlooking for that.
(48:57):
My body's ready for that, kickRight.
And I didn't have any coffee.
And so I was like, oh, allright, I'll just I'll drink some
tea and water.
And and you know, hopefullythat'll be okay when I tell you
that I literally felt like I wasnot detoxing.
What is it when somebody stops adrug?
Is it detoxing?
No withdrawals, withdrawals.
(49:18):
I was such a maniac and myhusband was like, could you just
go to Dunkin' Donuts?
Just do it, just go.
Because I was like a loosecannon and I couldn't get myself
into my normal headspace, Icouldn't really function right.
And I'm like, wow, this is kindof embarrassing and I actually
thought of you because I'm like,oh my.
Speaker 2 (49:39):
God, yeah, it's an addiction.
Your nervous system is addictedand I tell people oh, it's fine
, I'll stop.
No, you have to wean off.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
A drug you have to wean off.
Oh, you know, if you, if thisis something that you want to do
, you're not going to feel greatfor a couple of weeks, but then
after that you'll start to getnormal energy again.
Um, but you know, go down to75% caffeine, 25% decaf for a
(50:09):
week, then go down to 50, 50blend, or you can even mix your
regular coffee with like anadaptogenic mushroom powder
drink mix.
I was looking into thatactually.
Yeah, Work that ratio down overthree weeks.
It depends.
Like, if you're having threecups of coffee a day, you need
to take a full month to do it.
If you're just doing one a day,you could probably take two
weeks to do it.
So just depending on how muchyou have.
And then this is the reallyfunny thing.
So clients will be really goodand they're like oh my gosh,
(50:30):
Diana, I don't feel good.
I'm like I know we're almostdone.
And then the next month they'relike oh my God, I feel so much
better.
And then, maybe a few monthsdown the line, when their
hormones are looking good,they're like well, can I start
coffee again?
And I was like no, but if youwant to do it as a once in a
while.
Treat that's fine.
No-transcript, believe that youwere doing that every day and
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your body gets so acclimated toit that it controls those
mechanisms physiologically thatare happening, so that you can
drink that stupid drink and giveStarbucks all your money.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
I'm only a one cup a day person, but that cup is
actually a couple shots ofespresso, so I should probably
start scaling that back.
That's how I was thinking aboutdoing.
It was instead of like rightnow, I'm almost embarrassed to
tell you how many shots ofespresso in there, but it's four
(51:33):
.
So it's four shots of espressoin my cup, and then I obviously
with like creamer, my oatmealcreamer.
So that's how I was thinkingabout like all right, well,
right now I'm doing four.
I can cut it back to like twoand like do 50% and like just
carry on from there and likedrink my fluids all day and be
okay.
And that's how I startedthinking about it, because I do.
I actually am very interestedin coming off the caffeine, just
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because I, I just know it's not, it's not doing me any favors.
Speaker 2 (52:01):
It makes you feel good because it's a drug, drugs
yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:05):
That was one area where I was like I know I need
to start stepping back from that.
I love chatting with you.
As you can see, I couldn't stoptalking to you because I
already went past my allotment.
That's okay.
Thank you for having me.
Oh, my God, no, no, totally.
Thank you so much for coming onthe show.
I really appreciate youbringing your expertise to this
audience, because I really wanteveryone to start thinking
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outside of the box with theirhealth, and what can you do
that's outside of traditionalmedicine that could really
really benefit you and improveyour quality of life?
Absolutely, yeah, listeners,thank you so much for being with
us today and listening in.
I'm going to link all ofDiana's information in the
description so you can accessher websites, her and her
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product lines.
Take a look through everythingand you know, just try to do
something differently, thinkoutside the box, and you will be
very grateful for it.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
Absolutely, and so that the audience knows, I offer
a 15-minute complimentary phoneconsultation that you can book
at dmdnaturalmedicinecom just totell me about your case, so I
can just assess if it'ssomething that we want to go
forward and so that you can knowwhat to expect.
So I do offer that, happily forpeople that are considering
going down this path.
And thank you so much, jenny.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
That's fantastic.
Well, thank you again and,listeners, we will see you on
the next one, take care.
Hello everybody, welcome to Steel Roses podcast.
This podcast was created forwomen, by women, to elevate
women's voices.
I am very excited to introduceall of you to our guest.
Today we have Dr Diana Drakewith us.
She is a board certifiedtraditional naturopath
specializing in alternativemedicine for skin, hormone and
thyroid conditions.
With a passion for holistichealing, dr Drake brings a
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unique blend of science andnature to address the root
causes of health issues.
Dr Drake practices naturopathy,tailoring personalized
treatment plans.
Her approach is biologicallycoherent and uniquely designed
for each client.
She also has her own productline, dr Dale Wellness
Homeopathic Medicine and SkinNaturopathic Herbal Supplements.
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As a respected coach and mentorto practitioners in the
wellness space, dr Drake iscommitted to empowering others
in the journey of naturalhealing.
Diana, welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Jenny Very excited, I'm very excited to have you on
because I love you know.
I think traditional medicinehas a time and a place.
You know here, you know foreverything, but I love your
approach and I love what you'redoing here.
So I would really like you tointroduce yourself to the
listeners, tell them a littlebit about how you got this area
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focused and then you know thebig items that you're seeing
that are starting to come tolight in the industry.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Yeah, absolutely so.
Before I was a naturopath atall, I actually was an
esthetician and I was alwaysvery aware of the toxicity in
skincare and the things thataffect our skin.
So I opened this holistic skinspa and, just putting the word
holistic on my business, Ireally got a lot of people that
had very severe skin conditions,that were very disillusioned
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with what was going on at thedermatologist and with their
doctors.
They don't want to be on drugs,they don't want to be told that
they need to birth control.
They wanted to know why is myacne bad?
Why can't I fix it with diet,all these things?
And I realized very quickly wow, I am not equipped at all to
call myself holistic.
So I went on to become anaturopath and, you know, from
there I went on to get, you know, a PhD.
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So I don't have any traditionalmedical training like
everything is about like plantsand you know naturopathy and
homeopathy.
But I did start with a focus inskin.
I don't do any physicalskincare anymore.
Everything you know we do iswith supplementation, you know,
for the skin now and diet.
And it's interesting becauseback then, as a new baby
naturopath, the whole thought ofspecializing in hormones and
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thyroid was very overwhelming tome.
That was not really my interestper se.
Hormones are complicated, allthese different profiles are
complicated, but it's just whatthe market and the universe was
serving me.
You know, levothyroxine is thenumber one prescribed drug in
America.
That's a huge problem.
Okay, that's, that is, you know.
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So I really figured out like wow, I need to figure out a way to
help this population of people.
And so I came across Dr Dale atone of my conventions
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no-transcript in this, and thiswas like the bulk of what I was
doing when she passed.
I mean, obviously I was upsetand it was a shock to everyone.
She didn't tell anyone she wassick.
But the second thought was ohmy God, what's going to happen
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to this medicine, like so manynaturopaths use it and so many
people rely on this.
So that's kind of how I got towhere I am.
It's just interesting.
Yeah, it was just what themarket and the universe said,
like this is what is needed.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
I was actually going to highlight exactly that line,
because your beginnings in theindustry and this is why I want
to highlight this for thelisteners too, because I think a
lot of times people get stuck.
I'm reading this book right nowand it kind of applies to this
where people have a thought onwhat they're supposed to be
doing, like this is what I thinkI'm supposed to be doing and I
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like to use those words exactly,but I think I need to wait in
this line because I have to gothrough this door.
This is my goal.
I have to get through this door.
And they'll wait in that lineforever, not realizing that
that's not really the door thatthey're supposed to be waiting
in front of.
And you took a look at what wascoming your way and you said,
like yes, and I'm going to alsodo this Like yes, I know I want
to do holistic.
I know that I'm interested here, but I'm not prepared for this.
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Maybe I'd need to get moreeducation.
You took a path that wasoutside of what you thought you
were going to do and leaned intoit, and I want to highlight
that for the listeners, becausewhen you are banging down a door
, I find myself in thissituation right now.
I am currently banging on adoor and it's not opening.
It's not easily opening for me,and so I'm taking that as
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almost a well.
Maybe that's not the door I'msupposed to be banging on.
So I wanted to just highlightthat quickly for the listeners,
because you went through adifferent door and you were able
to find this other wonderfulpath that you're able to help
all these people with.
So I want to just commend youfor that.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Thank you so much.
Yes, thank you.
And now I'm in a position, evenas I'm.
You know, I'm very young for anaturopath, like my mentors are
60, 70, you know, dr Dale passedaway, she was almost 80.
So I'm very green for anaturopath, but I am one of the.
You know more, I have moreexpertise in this because I am
so specialized.
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So now I'm at a point where Iam training other practitioners,
because we need more, more me'sand more Dr Dale's, just
because this endocrine issue isit's big, it's a problem.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
It definitely is, and I, I don't think people and I
don't want to well, we, yeah, wecan, we can digress a little
bit, but I don't think peoplerealize how significant the food
is that we're eating inrelation to our hormones, to
everything, and even myself.
The first, the first chat youand I had, I think I might have,
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I think I might have been atthat point talking about
potentially thinking I was inperimenopause and I was like, oh
, I'm shifting my diet, I'mtrying all these different
things.
I think I was taking magnesiumat that point and L-theanine and
I was just trying everythingbecause I was just feeling so
crummy and I was like, oh, itmust be perimenopause and maybe
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I need to change all thesethings about me.
And I think that, like, peopledon't realize that the food that
you're taking in, like that'sgoing to affect you current day
and it's going to affect yourlife.
So for you, in this space Imean, food is medicine is
something that you would reallyrecommend and say to people.
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Like you can look to food.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yeah, absolutely, and there are certain things at
some point when the endocrinesystem has gone down, like there
are certain things that foodcan't do.
For example, if you're goingthrough menopause and we want
more native production ofhormones, your ovaries are
shutting down, but we canactually get more hormones out
of your adrenals with homeopathy.
That's something that foodcan't do, but what you are
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saying is so spot on.
That's why I love hopefullyyour listeners have heard of Dr
Casey Means and she's just onthis rampage talking about how
this all starts with ourchildhood diet.
You know, like all the sugar andall the carbohydrates, this is
leading to insulin resistanceand elevated androsynodiones and
that's what's causing all theacne and the period problems and
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the infertility and all thesethings, and that is you know.
Going back to what you weresaying, what am I seeing the
most?
It's that metabolic dysfunction.
And you know, if you are anaware or awake parent and you
see that your child has badperiods or they're missing
periods, or if you have a sonwith acne, you know a male with
really bad acne, um, and you'reevolved enough to know, okay, I
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need, we need to see anaturopath about this, and
hopefully that naturopathunderstands the metabolic
component.
That's really important tostart catching that at that age,
because by the time we're, youknow, 15, 14 and start cycling
or start going through puberty,we have accumulated all those
years of ourselves being builton junk, the wrong oils, not
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enough nutrition, the sugars,like just the crap, and then,
yeah, as we ate, it's just ahuge problem.
I mean, 99.9% of women thatcome to me have PCOS.
Okay, they have the elevatedeosinodione levels, which
doctors are not checking.
When a woman goes in when she's16 and she's not having her
periods enough, or her periodsare bad and she has acne, they
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don't even do a hormone test.
They just say here's your birthcontrol, see you later.
And if they did happen to run ahormone test, let's say a mom
says no, I want a hormone test,here's what you're going to get.
You're going to get a bloodtest with three values estrogen,
progesterone and testosterone.
And if that looks okay, they'llsay, oh, you're fine.
Now maybe, if you're reallylucky, you'll get a pelvic
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ultrasound and they'll say, oh,you have cysts, you have PCOS.
They'll still give you birthcontrol, but at least you know
you have PCOS.
But here's the caveat Sometimesyou don't have cysts and you
may still have PCOS because it'sthat metabolic component that's
leading to the excess androgensin the system.
So I really specialize in takingsaliva labs for our data.
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So blood's like the last thingwe want.
Urine's a little better, butsaliva is the best.
That's how we really get thebioavailability from the
endocrine system to see what'sactually active, and we just get
so many more values, includingthat androstenedione.
So that's a take home foreveryone that I want you guys to
understand If you yourself orif you have a child that has
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acne period problems,infertility, very intense PMS
symptoms, make sure you getthose androstenedion levels
checked, via saliva preferably,to assess that.
Now there's other ways you canlook at metabolic dysfunction.
You know A1C, insulin, glucose,things like that.
But it's when it gets tocreating that excess
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androstenedion that we have alot of other problems too.
But there's a lot of ways tolook at this.
So I really love the CaseyMeans book.
Dr Casey Means book Good Energyhave you read it yet?
Speaker 1 (10:29):
No, I haven't read it yet, it's in my list.
It's in my list.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Anybody.
If you are a parent, you needto read it.
This should be a reading inschool truly.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
I wanted to point something out, because you
mentioned it a few times, and Ihappen to know about this just
because of my experience inindustry that birth control
tends to be almost like acatch-all and and it's across
the board, because it's acne,they'll say painful periods like
here you go, endometriosis,here you go there.
There is literally like thepatch is always like oh, here,
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go ahead, go on birth control.
I was given it recently, likelast year or so.
I was having really badendometriosis pain and the
doctor was like, well, let'sjust try birth control, you know
as a, as the primary, likelet's go with that.
And I took it one day, one dose, and I just felt awful and and
I said to myself I'm like youknow, I'm like I'm literally
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putting hormones into my body,like this doesn't have to be the
way to go.
And I do believe in medicine.
I believe medicine is important, it has a time and a place.
There's certain things that youabsolutely go for.
I'm all about it, I'm on thatbus, but I think that there's
something else that you said toois that there's almost in
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health, healthcare, there is arule book that has to be
followed, and when you go into adoctor, number one.
They're given a very limitedamount of time to see you
because of insurance, and soyour time is incredibly short.
And then there's literallygo-to tests that they will do
and go-to products that they'regoing to recommend to you.
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This does not mean anythingunderhanded is happening.
This just means that these arethe things that are approved,
that they're allowed to do.
That is acceptable and they'regoing to do it because insurance
will cover it and this is okayand we're checking off these
boxes.
It doesn't mean that it's theright path for you and you could
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spend ages, you could spendyears going to traditional
doctors and being pointed down apath that you're not supposed
to be on.
I'm going to use my cousin asan example here.
She, from a very young age, washaving horrendous joint pain,
just horrendous joint pain, andso much so that she ended up
going to the Children's Hospitalof Philadelphia Like she was
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just in a tremendous amount ofpain, and the doctors had no
idea what was going on.
They ran every test that theycould think of.
They could not figure out whatwas wrong with her.
They sent her home with my auntand just said it's just growing
pains, you just have to dealwith it.
It's just growing pains.
That was the first marker.
Her whole life she had migraines, she had dizziness, she had
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trouble losing weight, she wasreally overweight, her skin was
bad, like she had all thesethings just kept snowballing
until she got to her.
I want to say it was her earlyknees and this was like the
straw that broke the camel'sback.
So she ended up like having togo.
She was seeing neurologistslike she was just trying,
desperately trying, to find ananswer.
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She ends up with this oneneurologist who happens to say
to her have you ever been testedfor celiacs?
And she was like no, like whatis that?
Had no idea what it was.
And so he directs her and sayslike you really, what is that?
Had no idea what it was.
And so he directs her and saysyou really actually have to go
see somebody else.
You should see somebodyholistic.
She started going down thisother path.
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Turns out she had celiacs.
Everything that was going wrongin her body was because of
inflammation and as soon as sheeliminated gluten from her diet,
everything was fine.
Everything was fine.
Yeah, and it's a tremendousstory because it's this one
thing that could really becausing an issue.
And the other part here that Iwant to highlight is that the
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interesting thing is thatthere's a whole generation my
mother's generation, was taughtthat if you are allergic to
something, you should introduceit into your diet in small doses
until your body adjusts to it.
And they've actually said thisto me a couple of times.
My aunts get on my case becausewe don't do dairy at our house.
Kids have a lactose intoleranceand so we stopped it, like six
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or seven years ago.
Well to them, they're like well, this is the only way you can
get calcium.
You're doing your you're.
You're doing your children adisservice.
You know like they need todrink milk, and I'm like but
they're.
It's making them sick.
And in my head I'm thinking ofmy cousins.
I'm like if I continue to givemy kids milk, my daughters, when
they were drinking milk, wereso puffy and swollen and just
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vomiting all the time.
I'm like I would never do thatat this point.
So it's an interesting yeah,it's an interesting to me what?
And every time they bring it up, they're like oh, yeah, you
should introduce it slowly.
I'm like but that's insane,they're allergic to it.
Yeah, I'm like.
No, and I think I want to alsohighlight here, too, that you do
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have to press and ask for askfor the test that Diana is
talking about as well, becauseso if you just get that regular
hormone test with your blood andit's like, oh, these three are
fine, you're all good, youreally do have to press further.
Yes, it's something else thatwon't happen.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
The saliva testing and the urine testing these are
all done by private labs.
This is not something that'scovered by insurance, so you're
often left having to foot thebill for these things, but
typically it's worth it andobviously doctors can't know
everything.
It's not a mystery.
We know that they get nonutrition training in school, so
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they obviously would have notraining on food sensitivities.
So she got lucky that sheactually got a neurologist that
knew something.
And you know, I get a lot ofclients that come and they're
pissed off.
They are pissed off at theirdoctors, they're pissed off at
what's happened in Westernmedicine and I think I don't
even like to call it Westernmedicine, or I don't think it's
medicine at all.
It's drugs, it's not medicine.
Real medicine heals.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
It's drugs.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yeah, but I, you know , I'm constantly reminding
people the model is diagnose andtreat with drugs and surgery.
So we can't be mad at them.
That's what they are trained todo and doing their job.
If you don't like that, youdon't participate in it, right,
no?
But the more people kind ofjust start to learn like, look
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that there are, you don't haveto do it, you know, but that's
what they are trained to do.
So we can't really be mad at.
We should be mad at the systemand those that are training the
doctors.
But yeah, people definitelycome pretty disillusioned with
what's going on with Westernmedicine, for sure.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
It's definitely it's hard to.
I pay attention to the industryquite a bit and it's hard to
see it and it's hard to talkwith my family members that are
having health issues too.
Where they're being, myfather-in-law was given a
medicine for his heart.
It's making him incredibly sickand they're like you're going
to have to just get used to it.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Like that and drug it's a yeah, oh.
Here's the thing these chronicissues, that is what we don't.
We should not be using drugsfor.
Those are the things that wecan really do well with herbs,
homeopathy, diet and lifestylechanges.
Another thing I was going tosay on that the birth control
topic is you're right, it is acatch-all unless you are trying
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to prevent pregnancy.
That is the only, that's theonly reason that you should.
That is it.
Don't use it for your skin, foryour periods, anything else,
because I'll tell you this, justlike with any other drug, if
you are on that drug for threeyears, five years, 15 years, the
root cause is going to continueto rage in your body unchecked
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for all of those years.
And that's the real problemhere.
It's not treating rootcausality.
And again, I get it when you'rea young teenager, the hormones
are high.
If you have a partner and youcan't control yourself, that's
what it's for.
That's such a small amount.
I mean now, it's so overused.
And then we've got thespironolactone and the Accutane
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and using antibiotics and allthese things.
It's just not, Are you?
Speaker 1 (18:28):
seeing any patterns or are you seeing more of a
prevalence with hormonedysfunction?
Or are you seeing more of aprevalence with hormone
dysfunction now?
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yes, lots of patterns .
So a range of people come to meright from the teenage part all
the way through menopause.
So what's going on with theseteenagers is the bad acne, the
PCOS in women, and that reallyneeds to be.
A lot of dietary changes needto be made from that.
Now people are really obsessedwith the food sensitivity thing,
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right?
People think I need to know myfood sensitivities and yes, you
do.
But the reality is if you havemetabolic dysfunction, you have
got to get off of sugars andprocessed grains and seed oils
three big time no-nos.
If you can do that, we cancorrect the rest gently with
supplementation.
But that needs to be like thefundamental thing with the diet.
And you know what the problemis in America that's all our
diet is.
I know, think about when I waslittle like we had beautiful
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meals on the table every night,but what do you think I was
eating during the day?
Goldfish, crackers, fruit bythe foot, lollipops, candy Like
I wasn't allowed to have soda,but like junk.
It's still junk food.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
It's still junk, yeah .
Speaker 2 (19:38):
That's the problem.
So we really need to clean uppeople's diet.
So that's the bigger trend withthe teenagers right.
Then we have the people kind ofthe next age group, the late
20s and 30s, that can't getpregnant because they have
undiagnosed PCOS.
So PCOS really another term forit could be diabetes of the
ovaries and it really is kind ofa broken ovulation cycle.
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So you could still be ovulatingbut the eggs aren't a good
quality.
Maybe you're I mean you justit's you just you can't get
pregnant and hormones are low,egg quality isn't where it needs
to be.
So with them and a lot of timeslike I've had women come to me.
They're like I've been doingIVF for five years I don't even
know if I can do this andtypically I can get them
pregnant.
Sometimes it takes a month,sometimes it takes two years,
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but typically we can get themthere.
So that's kind of the nextgroup of people and that's like
using a lot of homeopathy justto correct what's going on with
the endocrine system.
So homeopathy and this is whatfood can't do Homeopathy gives a
signal to your cell.
That's almost like giving it ablueprint of saying wake up,
this is what we want you to do.
Then you detoxify and justhomeopathy is a really beautiful
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way of talking to the system.
Actually, the concept ofvaccines is a stolen thing from
homeopathy.
That's what homeopathy is it'staking an original medium and
diluting it and then giving itto the body in that frequency.
We just don't have to inject itand add poisons to it.
If the government really wantedto give us a flu shot or
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inoculate us from any sort ofdisease, they can make a $4
homeopathic remedy for everybodyand give it out.
You don't have to be.
I am obviously an anti-vaxxer,but I'm not against inoculation
if that's important to someone.
But it doesn't have to be donewith a lethal injection.
It could literally be done witha sublingual homeopathic remedy
that is very affordable.
Okay, I was on a tangent and Igot lost.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
No, no, no, no, I liked it.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Okay.
So yes, we can kind ofreprogram and reawaken native
production right of hormones.
Next group is going to be mymenopause women, menopausal
women their biggest frustrationis their weight and you know a
lot of them.
I've tried this diet.
I've tried this diet and thekey to keeping weight off as we
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age is actually the opposite ofwhat we have been taught our
whole lives and that is like lowfat, stay away from fat.
No, we need to have actually alot of fat, the good fat you
know from organic sources andavocados and all of that, but
like a lot of fat.
Fat actually kind of signalsthe body to make muscle.
Then we need protein toactually make the muscle.
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But I put these women on ahealthy, higher fat diet and
they lose a lot of weight.
Then we do the homeopathy.
Obviously it's not going to gethormone levels like it can with
HRT or like your when you're 20, but we can get you back into
normal range for menopausebecause we are still supposed to
make hormones through menopausenot as high as before, but we
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are supposed to make some.
But the problem is menopausalwomen are making zero and that's
the issue for them.
So all these things can becorrected with homeopathy and
diet.
So that kind of higher fat dietwith no seed oils, no processed
grains.
So that's all the fun stuff thebread, the pasta and no grains,
even no rice, no quinoa, justlike no grains, no processed
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grains, no seed oils, no sugar.
Just take that out and it willreally help reset your body's
metabolism.
And then with homeopathy anddetoxification we can get things
in a better place so you're nothaving all the negative side
effects.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
You know, it is interesting because I'm not
menopausal quite yet.
I'm peri just by definition,just because of my age.
But I noticed, with my dietcleanup this year, and
especially in the past sixmonths, I've gotten much more
fine tuned with what I'm doingand in the past couple of weeks
which I'm going to tell you whynow I've had to really get more
focused on making sure that I amgetting a lot of nutrition from
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my food.
You will be mad at me in aminute.
I was slacking and I starteddoing intermittent fasting.
So I was like I haven't notlosing any weight.
I'm getting really mad.
I was just getting reallyfrustrated and one of the other
moms that I'm friends with saidto me she's like you know, try
this out.
I couldn't lose any weight.
This, this, really worked forme.
So I started doing it and I'mdropping weight.
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But there's a whole like okay,yes, you're dropping weight, but
you have to also be exercising,lifting weights, because you're
losing muscle.
You know, and at my age I justturned 41 on December 1st I just
had my birthday, I'm rightbehind you, honey.
I'm behind you too much.
I'm like super excited andproud of it.
That's why I talk about turning41.
But so I, you know, I know themuscle loss is really a big deal
(24:13):
for women our age, so you knowthat's something to be cognizant
of.
What started happening, though,was that because I was
intermittent fasting, I alsowasn't paying attention to how
much nutrients I was gettingwith my food during my little
window you know my eight-hourwindow for eating, and so I
(24:33):
would get wrapped up in work,I'd get caught up with something
with the kids or what have you,and I'm like, oh, let me just
grab like a macro bar, or let mejust grab something quick.
And the last time you and Iconnected, I think I had might
have shared with you like that Iget.
I was getting like reallyterrible fatigue and mood swings
and brain fog like God awful,to the point where, like, I
couldn't even string wordstogether.
Like it was really, really bad,and for someone who likes to
(24:56):
talk as much as I, do, not beingable to string words together
is a problem.
So I ended up going to the mywent to my OB, because I really
was like I'm in perimenopause,like it's happening.
This is what it is.
This is why I feel like crap.
And they're like let's do apanel and see what's really
happening.
And what they came back withwas that I'm actually anemic and
(25:17):
that was really a bigger issue.
So I took that and I startedexamining my diet and so now I'm
being very mindful of okay, amI getting my leafy greens every
single day?
And like that's where I'm overindexing.
I'm still going work with ahematologist.
I'm gonna go visit one and makesure that you know I you know
(25:39):
see what's what.
But I'm at the point where I'mlike I want to treat this with
food, like I want to treat thiswith something where I can like
supplement myself and just makesure, like you're eating healthy
.
So, even though I'm avegetarian, I was like I will
eat eggs.
You know I'll try to like pullsome things in.
So for dinner you have to laughat it my dinner this evening
(26:01):
was like a bowl of a small bowlof black beans, spinach, a side
of spinach and like a side oflike eggs, and that was like my
meal, because it honestly feelsreally good to eat that way.
And alternatively, when I likehave a cheat and I eat a grain
exactly what you were justtalking about.
Like I don't.
I really I don't eat pastaanymore.
I don't eat white bread.
(26:22):
Like I'm trying to be verycareful and the times that I do
have some, I'm immediately likelethargic or I'm immediately
like not feeling well.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Yeah, and that example, that's the perfect
example of how to use food asmedicine.
Right, try that.
First see where you get andthen, if that you know, if you
can't get enough from food, thenyou can bring in an iron
supplement or whatever it is youwant to do.
But this is how we shouldreally be thinking First, what
can I do with my diet to help meeat this way?
(26:53):
Or, you know, excuse me, tohelp me get what I need from
food first, okay, and then wedon't, can't do that, then we
bring in nutrition.
You know, I see that a drug isthere.
If we have exhausted everythingelse and nothing else is
working, great, then we can gotake drugs.
Not in the iron case, it wouldjust be, you know, we could get
you on a supplement.
But you know, in a lot of othercholesterol thing, um, you know
(27:16):
I actually very sad story, butmy mother had her first heart
attack when I was seven yearsold and her they were like oh,
your cholesterol is too high,we're going to put you on this
statin drug and we shouldprobably check your daughter
because this seems to be verygenetic with your family.
And I had high cholesterol too.
So I went on a statin drug Fastforward.
Now both of our cholesterol isin range.
Mine was through the roof.
(27:36):
It was like almost 600.
Okay, oh my gosh.
She then passed away when I was23 from her second heart attack
and the first thing I thought,besides being devastated from
that is am I going to, could Idie too?
I'm supposed to be on this drugthat, if my cholesterol is in
range, is supposed to, like,protect me.
You know Not that a doctor canguarantee if you do this drug
(27:58):
you're not going to have a heartattack.
But that's when I really wokeup.
That's when I really realizedsomething is wrong with Western
medicine.
And now, being what I am now, Iunderstand there are so many
important things that go intocardiovascular wellness and for
her, having high cholesterol isa piece of metabolic dysfunction
too.
So she also probably had somePCOS, some metabolic dysfunction
(28:23):
that was going on, some insulinresistance that was causing the
elevated cholesterol and allkinds of other things that led
to this whole situation.
That happened and it's justreally sadly, could have been
preventable if I knew then whatI knew now.
Right, how often have we saidthat?
Speaker 1 (28:40):
You know, I have to tell you I am so I'm very sorry
to hear that you lost yourmother, that's, you know.
I am very sorry to hear that.
What I want to say here is thatthat moment was pivotal for you
and I feel like that is a bigdefining thing for you for what
you're doing now, because that'sone of those things and I mean,
(29:01):
I don't know for sure, butthat's how I'm taking it as soon
as you said it, I was like oh,there, it is Like that was your
that's the genesis tree.
That was your catalyst rightthere.
That was like hey, there arepeople out here that are
probably dropping like flies,you know, because they're
leaning on Western medicine orthey're leaning on
over-the-counter medicine tohelp get them through things and
(29:24):
it's really just putting aband-aid, it's just putting a
patch.
It's not actually fixing theissue.
Like what you said, you knowyou could take, you know,
hormone therapy for acne, butwhat the root cause of the issue
is, you're not addressing that.
So that problem is always goingto be there and it's probably
going to get worse becauseyou're right, You're still,
you're still antagonizing it.
(29:46):
You're just putting a patch ontop of it to hope that it'll be
okay.
But it's just going to getworse.
And honestly, I mean, I remembergrowing up and people that I
knew in my neighborhood had likehorrendous acne and honestly, I
mean I remember growing up andpeople that I knew in my
neighborhood had like horrendousacne and it was always like
just put some cream, put somecreams on it, It'll be fine and
it's really not, and they had tolive their whole lives like
(30:08):
that.
I also knew there was a womanthat I think she might've been
in her late thirties, early 40s,a woman that I used to work
with and this is a sad example,but this was something that also
gave me a kick in my butt whenI heard about this.
She was chronic, you know,workaholic, chronic overworker,
like just constantly justputting, using patches for every
(30:31):
illness was like what can Itake over the over the counter
one of those people?
And she didn't pay attention,she wasn't mindful with her body
and she ended up having it wasa UTI that got backed up into
her kidneys, eventually wentseptic because again, she was
just over the counter treatingand she ended up dying.
(30:51):
She was leaving her house withher fiance dropped dead on her
front lawn because she justabused her body to the point of
that was it?
It's over and it couldliterally happen to any of us.
And I think this is somethingthat I'm going to soapbox on
this for a minute, because evenme, as a woman, I have this
(31:13):
problem.
After I had my kids, I didn'tgo to the doctor at all and I
had loads of health issues for areally long time and I never
really paid attention and I justkept my head down and kept
going.
And if you are not feeling well, you have to take action.
You have to do something,Because you could just be
delaying and delaying, anddelaying and in the meantime,
(31:35):
these issues are building inyour body.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yeah, absolutely.
And don't get me wrong, youguys, you know there have been
times when, you know, I had aclient, for example, that had
severe inflammation, like fromher ear, all through the right
side of her neck, and I said youhave got to see a medical
doctor just to rule out.
And she was like, well, I don'twant to, I don't like to see
(31:59):
doctors.
I like you know there's a lotof mucus and I feel like it's
some sort of virus, and I saidthat's fine, but let's just
verify that.
And it turned out that it wascancer.
So there are some things youknow I am not a medical doctor.
I cannot diagnose somethinglike that.
So there are some things thatwe absolutely need Western
medicine for.
For sure.
Yeah, but yeah, it's like takeaction and the first person you
(32:24):
pick might not be the rightperson you work with and maybe
we have to refer out.
And maybe you have a team ofpeople.
Yeah, but take actionDefinitely, because if we don't
feel well, something needs toget better, definitely.
And people walking around withacne it's not normal Just
because a lot of teenagers haveit.
That just shows that we have anunhealthy teenage population,
(32:46):
because they've been eatingsugar and carbs their whole life
and their mother probably hadgestational diabetes because she
was probably also eating sugar.
I mean, what do you think wecrave when we're pregnant?
Yeah, you know, spinach.
No.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
No, definitely not, Definitely not, spinach.
We talked a lot we talked.
You mentioned PCOS a couple oftimes and I want to make sure
for the listeners that theyunderstand what PCOS is, Cause I
remember at one point like Ihad even thought about that for
myself, like many, many moonsago.
So baseline like what, whatexactly is PCOS?
(33:19):
If somebody's listening andthey don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
So it stands for polycystic ovarian syndrome.
But again, you might notnecessarily have the cysts Most
of us do but sometimes,sometimes they come and go too
right.
So if you happen to get apelvic ultrasound while they're
not there, you might be told youdon't have PCOS and it's an
improper diagnosis.
But basically there are somecases of PCS that don't have a
metabolic component to it, butthat's a little more rare.
(33:42):
But pretty much this is insulinresistance, which means our
blood sugars are too high, it'snot getting in and out of the
cell, so it's not being used forfuel, so we're not properly
turning our food into fuel, andthis just causes a cascading
thing of problems.
So then the ovaries startmaking too much androstenedione,
which is that type ofandrostenedone that we don't
want, and then that leads to acertain set of symptoms.
(34:05):
So I'm going to tell you guysthese symptoms and if you have
like two or more of these, youprobably, you most likely, have
PCOS or you should get checked.
So, or more of these, youprobably you most likely have
PCOS or you should get checked.
So easiest thing is going to beacne, okay.
Then periods when I tell youthat your period should not be a
horrifying event for you.
(34:25):
I mean it.
I used to be bedridden on myperiod and I had horrible acne.
I was just given birth control.
But now that I know this andI've been working on it, I can
barely feel my period coming andout of 10, my cramps will maybe
get to a two now and they wereabove a 10 back in the day,
right.
So if you have an uncomfortableperiod to the point where you
feel like you need to take drugsor it's literally interfering
(34:49):
with your life, something iswrong.
That is not normal.
You might have excess hair onyour face as a woman.
If something is wrong that isnot normal you might have excess
hair on your face as a woman,like dark hairs a little more
than maybe seems normal, justmore pretty severe symptoms
around your period.
So bad PMS, really moody, can'tsleep.
Extra bloating Don't get mewrong.
A little bloating is normal,but really the period should not
be this huge event Like youshould be able to go on with
(35:11):
your life, maybe a little moretired, okay, yes, maybe a little
cramps, but it shouldn't be badThen on the other.
So it's bad periods on one side.
Oddly, you could also have notenough periods, so you could
have, you could be skipping them.
You only get them every threemonths.
When they come, they're reallylight, so you could be on one
side of the spectrum or theother with periods.
Then, once you start to try toconceive, if you're having
(35:33):
trouble, you want to get checkedfor PCOS, but the big things
are going to be the acne,trouble with your cycle, excess
facial hair.
Another thing is stubborn bellyfat.
If you start and you guys haveseen this now kids just running
around overweight, okay, sothese things are starting early
and earlier.
But you and for me, like mystubborn belly fat didn't happen
(35:55):
until I was a little older,like in my late 20s, and I was
like huh, that's interesting,like why can't I get this off?
Now that's part of the PCOS,you know?
Um, so pretty.
If you have any of those things, or you suspect, but I'm
telling you most of us have it,I'm not surprised, because I
would be certain that most of ushave it as well.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
And I'm laughing.
I'm laughing because of whatyou said with period should not
be this horrifying event.
I'm laughing because it'sunfortunate.
A lot of us are conditioned tobelieve that that it's supposed
to take you out, like yourperiod, like that's it.
You get your period, you'redown for the count for X amount
(36:38):
of days.
I knew I had some friends whenwe were, when I was in grammar
school, that would get theirperiod for like 14 days and it
was like really heavy.
And I remember like thinking tomyself, like God, like you know
what's normal here?
Like how are we supposed toknow, and how are young girls
(37:00):
supposed to know, if whatthey're having, what's going on
with them, is normal or not?
And, on the flip of it as well,because it's been so normalized
through generational lines,certain things they're like oh
yeah, really painful periods arenormal for us, like it's
actually not.
So that is, your period is ahuge indicator.
(37:22):
It's not just like oh yes, nowyou're a woman.
This is actually a really bigindicator for your uterine
health.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Yeah, yeah, totally.
It's a big like.
We should be learning this inschool.
When your period comes, we needto discuss it, yeah.
It's not just like what is thepain, what is the lethargic,
like all these things.
Yeah, there's a lot of thingswe need to learn in school.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
It's.
It's crazy because I think backnow, for example, like I just
learned about cycle thinkinglike right, like that was like
brand new information to me.
And I just learned about cyclethinking like right, like that
was like brand new informationto me.
And I just turned, I'm 41.
I'm like, how is this newinformation?
I'm embarrassed that it's newinformation, like we should all
know about cycle thinking.
Yeah, but the the period thing Iremember, like I flashed back
to like when I was in fifthgrade and we got the talk right.
(38:07):
The boys were separated outfrom the girls and I went to
Catholic school, so you couldimagine how this talk was and it
was very just.
Here you go, this is abiological thing that happens to
you monthly, and here are somepads and that's it.
Like that was it.
That was as far as thediscussion went, right.
We don't warn us or anything.
It's terrible, that was it.
And you know women, young girls,are going through this, not
(38:31):
really understanding what'sgoing on, and then there's this
prevalence of embarrassment, sothey don't want to ask is it
normal for this to be coming outof me?
Is this normal to feel this way?
Am I supposed to be this pissedoff during my period, like they
really don't know, and majorityof women that, like adult women
, are walking around too notreally educated about what their
(38:54):
body is supposed to be goingthrough.
So it's it's a huge gap in justour education as women in
general.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
And to your point earlier, my mom didn't have bad
periods, so she was able to tellme wow, like this is I never.
Mine were not like this.
But now, the now, all the nowthat we all have PCOS, like,
let's say, I never learned thatif I had a daughter, I would be
like, oh yeah, that's normal,it's sorry, it's terrible.
You know what I mean.
Like if I never knew.
So it's like once, now that theold generation's gone, we now,
(39:26):
we think it's normal and we'rethe ones having the kids.
So it's, it's like disappearingwhat's normal.
Like doctors are telling youknow how eczema in babies is
just so prevalent.
Yes, well, doctors are tellingthese mothers you know what?
It's very common, don't worryabout it.
Just because it's commondoesn't mean that it's normal or
okay.
Actually, no, this is a, thisis a problem with your.
(39:48):
There is something going onhere, you know, but it's just
like everything is, everythingbecomes normalized.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
You're right and you know what.
Now that you mentioned that, Ihave to tell you all three of my
kids I didn't have eczema.
My husband didn't have eczema.
My oldest stepdaughter, she hadit when she was a teen.
She had it really bad on herstomach.
All three of my kids had skinconditions and have skin
conditions.
My son just came to me todayactually, and was like Mommy,
(40:17):
the patches are back and he haslittle patches on his arms and I
was treating it with like whatwas it that?
Salicylic cream, Like salicylicacid.
Thank you, Okay, that was oneof the ones.
I think CeraVe has a productthat worked well for him, but
that was my immediate go-to andnow that we're talking through
(40:37):
this, I'm like you know, maybeit is something in his diet that
, or most likely, it's somethingin his diet that's triggering.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Okay, I have comments here.
We could do a whole show on thereal cause of inflammatory skin
conditions.
But number one, cerave is junk,okay.
Number one, cerave is junk.
Okay, it's full of toxins.
I think you're probably sayinghyaluronic acid, because
salicylic acid would like be agentle exfoliator.
I don't know, maybe you areputting that on it and it's
(41:04):
making it better.
I would think maybe that couldbe a little burny for him.
Yeah, I have to look at thething.
But and listen, you're notdoing anything wrong.
Cerave spends millions ofdollars influencing
dermatologists and running adson television that makes you
think that this is a healthyproduct for skin, when it's not.
So you're not doing anythingwrong.
(41:24):
You're just like, oh my gosh,like they've imprinted in your
mind that that's what to use.
So when we are expressing a skincondition like eczema and
psoriasis, really this is anoverburdened immune system that
is now pushing things out of theskin.
So how does our immune systemget overburdened?
This has nothing to do withcatching germs or viruses.
(41:45):
No, the immune system's job isto determine self from non-self,
since we are already a bag ofgerms.
That's not what's going on here.
Really, it's toxemia yourimmune system is looking at.
Is this toxic or is itnutrition?
That's it.
So he has a personal question.
But did you vax him when he wasa baby?
I did, okay, so you didn't knowany better for that either.
(42:09):
But that tends to be the immuneinsult on the newborn babies.
That's the insult.
And then, if you think aboutthis, this is really sad.
Babies are born with over 350known toxins in their umbilical
cord blood, and that was fromlike seven years ago, that
statistic.
Plastics, pesticides, heavymetals, glyphosate, you name it.
(42:32):
So we are so toxic as mothersand our toxic blood is going
into our toxic baby.
Then they come out and then weshoot them up with toxins, then
we give them our toxic breastmilk and toxic, toxic, toxic,
toxic, right.
So the one thing I do withmothers that want to get ready
for pregnancy is like intensedetoxification to help mitigate
this.
But here's my point.
So he comes out, he's toxic, hegets shot with toxins.
(42:56):
It's too much for the immunesystem.
It's not going out the normalpathways the kidney, the liver,
the colon so it gets in thelymph and he's pushing it out of
his skin.
So the way to heal that andthis could also be from a leaky
gut as well, right, stuff'sgetting out literally out of the
gut into the lymphatic and itis pushed out the skin and then
(43:16):
the skin's having a reaction.
So really, detoxification isimportant for him and then you
want to heal the gut.
So this, my skin naturopathicsbrand is very, very focused on
that and we also have, you know,chinese herbs that are good for
itching and cooling andeverything is internal.
So, but that's a huge.
This baby eczema thing is ahuge problem, huge problem.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
You know one thing on the vaccines, because I know
that you could probably go deepthere I did vaccinate all of my
kids, but I have to tell youwhen I got to a certain point
where I was beginning to getvery uncomfortable about it,
because the twins were the twinsespecially my son didn't have
it as much, but the girls hadhorrendous reactions when they
(44:02):
would get their vaccines.
And I mean they've since agedout and they're it's.
It's a non like we don't.
We don't do anything that'srecommended at this point
because I have my beliefs.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
And it's true, it actually happened to one of your
children.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
Well, and the girls would I mean?
Anytime they got a shot, theirarm would swell up so badly and
be like a baseball on their armand it would scar their arm and
leave marks on their skin, andto the point where, when they
would get a vaccine, I wouldhave to give them Benadryl.
And then, even in doing that, Iremember being like this is
insane.
I'm giving them something.
(44:45):
And again, at the time I'm amom, I'm like I got to do this,
this is what I'm being told, Ihave to do this, and so I did it
.
And now, post, I'm like youknow, okay, I'm very mindful now
of well, just because it'sbeing promoted to me, especially
since I know so much aboutmarketing, I'm like just because
it's being promoted to medoesn't necessarily mean that
(45:08):
this is what is supposed to bein my kids, or in me or you know
anybody else?
Speaker 2 (45:12):
Yeah, the vaccine companies are in business to
make money.
It's it's not about our health,it is about money,
unfortunately, and I'm sorrythat that happened to them.
You know I've had I had aclient that had twins and one of
them died upon vaccination thatnight.
You know these are reallyserious things.
And again, I'm not againstinoculation.
If we want to inoculatechildren, we can give them
homeopathy and there are nonegative side effects to it you
(45:34):
know like that's a seriousoption that we could take
advantage of.
Yeah, and it's really.
You know it's terrible.
They scare you, they bully you,but you know it comes down to
the argument of like, whetheryou believe that we were created
or not.
It's like we have this innateimmune system and the moment you
give a vaccine, it messes withthe system.
(45:55):
It messes with the response.
Doctors are now coming out andsaying my population of kids
that weren't vaccinated arehealthier, they're in here less.
They're only in here for theiryearly checkups, instead of
coming in with strep and earinfections and mono and all
these things.
And so we really have to startto question this germ theory
model of like.
Is everyone really making eachother sick, or are our immune
(46:16):
systems just so down that we'reso sensitive to oxidative stress
and toxicity that we're justconstantly sick?
Speaker 1 (46:23):
I mean, it's really, it's terrible, that's that and
also it's also the combinationof things that we're putting in
our bodies today that aresocially acceptable and almost
pushed upon us Like.
I just had a very intensediscussion with somebody
recently about alcohol and howthat impacts your immune system
(46:43):
and the huge impact alcohol hason your health.
And I'm not talking like oh,your looks, yeah, your looks for
sure, but like your actualimmune system yeah, absolutely.
Deter deteriorates with alcohol.
You're literally poisoning yourbody.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
Yeah, I mean you've literally.
If you have too much, you willliterally puke and be like
because your body's repelling it.
Yes, I don't drink alcohol.
Maybe a couple of times a yearI'll have a couple of drinks and
I'm like I don't need to dothat.
Right, I love taking a potgummy instead.
That's really fun.
You just laugh and stay hydratedand wake up fun, and you know
(47:20):
so I'm I'm much more into that,but you know what.
Another thing is caffeine.
Oh right, we were going to talkabout caffeine.
Yes, go ahead, it's on everycorner.
And when you take homeopathicmedicine, the first thing I have
to do is take people off ofcaffeine.
Number one, because thefrequency of caffeine doesn't
work with homeopathy.
It just renders the medicinedead.
So it's a waste of money, right?
So that's the first piece.
(47:40):
Secondarily, if you're goingthrough menopause and I'm trying
to get hormone production outof your adrenals, you can't
really be putting them on aroller coaster of up and down
crashing with caffeine.
And people are really resistantto this, like they're like man.
I don't know if I can do that.
And then I give them thislittle speech, which is do you
know what caffeine actually is?
(48:04):
It is the insecticide of a plantthat the plant makes so that it
won't get eaten by bugs.
So it's literally a defensechemical that happens to be in
the plant.
Bugs will eat it and if theyeat too much, they die.
It's literally so toxic andwe're in.
It's on every corner.
And I remember I in high school, we would go to Starbucks and
get our frappuccinos with ourwhippy things on it.
So it's like caffeine bomb,sugar bomb, dehydrate your body
(48:26):
bomb.
It's just like it's so grossbut it's so acceptable.
I love my morning coffee fixLike you're bragging about
toxins but we just don't evenknow.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
You're right, it's a huge marketing package and as a
really avid coffee drinker, Ican tell you that there was a
morning recently where I had runout and I didn't realize it,
and I start my days at likefive-ish, 5 am, 5.30.
And so I came down and I'mlooking for that, and I start my
days at like five ish, 5am, 530.
And so I came down and I'mlooking for that.
(48:57):
My body's ready for that, kickRight.
And I didn't have any coffee.
And so I was like, oh, allright, I'll just I'll drink some
tea and water.
And and you know, hopefullythat'll be okay when I tell you
that I literally felt like I wasnot detoxing.
What is it when somebody stops adrug?
Is it detoxing?
No withdrawals, withdrawals.
(49:18):
I was such a maniac and myhusband was like, could you just
go to Dunkin' Donuts?
Just do it, just go.
Because I was like a loosecannon and I couldn't get myself
into my normal headspace, Icouldn't really function right.
And I'm like, wow, this is kindof embarrassing and I actually
thought of you because I'm like,oh my.
Speaker 2 (49:39):
God, yeah, it's an addiction.
Your nervous system is addictedand I tell people oh, it's fine
, I'll stop.
No, you have to wean off.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
A drug you have to wean off.
Oh, you know, if you, if thisis something that you want to do
, you're not going to feel greatfor a couple of weeks, but then
after that you'll start to getnormal energy again.
Um, but you know, go down to75% caffeine, 25% decaf for a
(50:09):
week, then go down to 50, 50blend, or you can even mix your
regular coffee with like anadaptogenic mushroom powder
drink mix.
I was looking into thatactually.
Yeah, Work that ratio down overthree weeks.
It depends.
Like, if you're having threecups of coffee a day, you need
to take a full month to do it.
If you're just doing one a day,you could probably take two
weeks to do it.
So just depending on how muchyou have.
And then this is the reallyfunny thing.
So clients will be really goodand they're like oh my gosh,
(50:30):
Diana, I don't feel good.
I'm like I know we're almostdone.
And then the next month they'relike oh my God, I feel so much
better.
And then, maybe a few monthsdown the line, when their
hormones are looking good,they're like well, can I start
coffee again?
And I was like no, but if youwant to do it as a once in a
while.
Treat that's fine.
No-transcript, believe that youwere doing that every day and
(51:03):
your body gets so acclimated toit that it controls those
mechanisms physiologically thatare happening, so that you can
drink that stupid drink and giveStarbucks all your money.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
I'm only a one cup a day person, but that cup is
actually a couple shots ofespresso, so I should probably
start scaling that back.
That's how I was thinking aboutdoing.
It was instead of like rightnow, I'm almost embarrassed to
tell you how many shots ofespresso in there, but it's four
(51:33):
.
So it's four shots of espressoin my cup, and then I obviously
with like creamer, my oatmealcreamer.
So that's how I was thinkingabout like all right, well,
right now I'm doing four.
I can cut it back to like twoand like do 50% and like just
carry on from there and likedrink my fluids all day and be
okay.
And that's how I startedthinking about it, because I do.
I actually am very interestedin coming off the caffeine, just
(51:55):
because I, I just know it's not, it's not doing me any favors.
Speaker 2 (52:01):
It makes you feel good because it's a drug, drugs
yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:05):
That was one area where I was like I know I need
to start stepping back from that.
I love chatting with you.
As you can see, I couldn't stoptalking to you because I
already went past my allotment.
That's okay.
Thank you for having me.
Oh, my God, no, no, totally.
Thank you so much for coming onthe show.
I really appreciate youbringing your expertise to this
audience, because I really wanteveryone to start thinking
(52:28):
outside of the box with theirhealth, and what can you do
that's outside of traditionalmedicine that could really
really benefit you and improveyour quality of life?
Absolutely, yeah, listeners,thank you so much for being with
us today and listening in.
I'm going to link all ofDiana's information in the
description so you can accessher websites, her and her
(52:50):
product lines.
Take a look through everythingand you know, just try to do
something differently, thinkoutside the box, and you will be
very grateful for it.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
Absolutely, and so that the audience knows, I offer
a 15-minute complimentary phoneconsultation that you can book
at dmdnaturalmedicinecom just totell me about your case, so I
can just assess if it'ssomething that we want to go
forward and so that you can knowwhat to expect.
So I do offer that, happily forpeople that are considering
going down this path.
And thank you so much, jenny.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
That's fantastic.
Well, thank you again and,listeners, we will see you on
the next one, take care.
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