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SPEAKER_00 (00:00):
Hello, everybody.
This is Still Rose's Podcast.
This podcast was created forwomen by women to elevate
women's voices.
I have a kind of an interestingtopic here today.
Um, I hope everyone's doingwell.
Let me start with that first andforemost.
But I have a kind of aninteresting topic.
So over the weekend, my husbandwas I always come down and
meditate in the morning, and nowhe sits in the room right next
to me in the lounge chair in myoffice.
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And um he, you know, unwindshimself in the morning.
Over the weekend, he waslistening to he was clicking
through social media and hesettled on this video.
And I actually stopped what Iwas doing to listen because it
really piqued my interest.
It's this woman, um, I can'tremember her name.
You've probably seen her.
If you have social media, youhave to have seen her at some
point.
But she's an older, very thinwoman on social media, and she
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talks a lot about like natural,holistic ways to treat disease
and and whatnot.
Now, a lot of what she says, Ifact-check because this is part
of how I think and how I make myliving.
And so I fact-check just to makesure, like it makes sense.
And there's always studies andresearch to back up what she's
saying, which is why I'm goingto reference this now.
And so she started talking, shewas talking about diet, and she
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said that the three meals a daystructure was actually
introduced in the early 1900s,probably a little bit sooner,
because I've I just did someresearch and I was looking at
colonialization and all thisstuff.
Three meals a day was introducedspecifically, truly an American
cultural thing.
And it was structured reallymost recently around our
workday, school day, because welive this very structured
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lifestyle.
In her video clip, she talksabout how it was recommended
basically by the system, thepowers that be here.
And it's really not based onhealth for us, because if it was
based on health for us, threemeals a day wouldn't be
recommended.
If you go back and you thinkabout, and she, this is where
she could start talking about,you know, our ancestors were
hunter-gatherers.
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And these people did not havethree meals a day because the
food was not available to them.
They ate when food was availableand they all they ate when they
were hungry, but there was nostructure.
You must eat breakfast, you musteat lunch, you must eat dinner.
That came purely out of us,society, deciding to do that.
Now, before you say to me,Jenny, no, but the experts say,
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like, this is what we need.
If you dig deeper into that, youare actually going to see some
conflicting evidence, but youhave to dig because the topical
layer is going to reinforcethree meals a day.
It's very interesting the waythat the search engines are set
up.
I'm not going to get allconspiracy theory on you all,
but I will say I find it veryinteresting how difficult it was
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for me to find this information.
Nevertheless, I'm going to takea step back for a moment before
I go all the way down the pathbecause I want to really ground
you.
So I've talked aboutintermittent fasting before.
I've talked about how that wasreally the catalyst to help me
lose weight in my 40s because Iwas really trying many different
scenarios.
I was trying different ways tolose weight.
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Nothing was working.
And a friend of mine, a motherfriend, a mom friend of mine,
recommended intermittentfasting, totally changed my
life.
I owe her big for that.
Benefits of intermittentfasting, obviously, weight loss
is one I just mentioned, but itimproves your metabolic health.
And fasting can significantlylower blood sugar and insulin
levels, reducing the risk oftype 2 diabetes.
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This is beneficial for me.
Diabetes runs in my family.
It reduces inflammation.
So there's chronic inflammationas a factor in many diseases.
Studies suggest that fasting canlower overall levels of chronic
inflammation in the body.
This is accurate.
Enhanced brain function.
Fasting may support brain healthby promoting the growth of new
nerve cells, increasingcognitive function, and
potentially offering protectionagainst age-related
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neurodegenerative disorders likeAlzheimer's and Parkinson's.
This next one is most importanthere.
Cellular repair, autophagy.
During extended fasting periodsbeyond 24 hours, the body
initiates a process calledautophagy, essentially a
cellular cleanup that removesdamaged cells and can help
regenerate new healthy cells.
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Now, this says beyond 24 hours.
I've read articles where it saysat the 16-hour mark, you've hit
it.
So that I'd have to fact-check alittle bit further.
Increased growth hormone,fasting can increase levels of
human growth hormone, HDH, acrucial protein involved in
growth, metabolism, weightmanagement, and muscle strength.
So you know how I feel aboutfasting.
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I will swear by it.
I love it personally.
It's done wonders for me.
It's done wonders for my health,in my opinion.
I do think that intermittentfasting, in combination with a
lot of the other things that Ido, um is why I am in such great
health.
I had a doctor recently, youknow, we were doing a overall
exam.
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And um, at the end of it, shejust says, So you're basically
healthy as a horse.
And I was like, basically,that's it.
You know, it's it's a beautifulthing because I've I know so
many people that are unwell andhave these chronic ailments.
And to be able to be blessedwith good health is actually a
blessing.
Intermittent fasting, this iswhere I am, right?
Now, the influence of mealfrequency.
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So I started to go down thisrabbit hole and I wanted to
share it with you guys.
So I found this journal article,National Library of Medicine,
that discusses the influence ofmeal frequency and timing on
health and disease.
Um, I'm gonna read you onecaption, I'm gonna break it down
for you.
While epidemiological evidenceindicates an association between
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higher meal frequencies andlower disease risk, experimental
trials have shown conflictingresults.
Fair.
Furthermore, recent perspectiveresearch has just demonstrated a
significant increase in diseaserisk with a high meal frequency
as compared to a low mealfrequency.
Apart from meal frequency andtiming, we also have to consider
breakfast consumption and thedistribution of daily cat energy
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intake, caloric restriction, andnighttime eating.
A central role in this complexscenario is played by the
fasting period length betweentwo meals.
So this is the abstract in thisstudy.
So this study is on, I found iton National Library of Medicine.
You can literally, I mean, youlook Google, like, are we meant
to be eating three meals a day?
You're gonna find a lot ofstuff.
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This one in particular doesdiscuss the fact that high meal
frequency is uh increaseddisease risk.
So if there's research, nowlet's take a step back too and
peel the onion back a little bitfurther.
You are not going to find aresounding amount of medical
research that discusses this.
And the reason for this is isbecause if the entire United
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States gets the message, youshould not eat three meals a day
because it is increasing yourdisease risk.
You need to scale back, it'sgonna increase your health.
That is not good businesspractice for us here, right?
So we're not recommending thatas a quote unquote society.
But I'm telling you, this iswhat the research is saying.
Now you're not gonna find loadsof like you're not gonna find
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loads of research articles onthis at this time because no
one's gonna pay for this.
Why would they pay for it?
Because then it's gonna goagainst like so a pharmaceutical
company is not going to backresearch that's gonna prove this
because they're in the businessof disease.
It's gonna conflict.
So I just I'm putting all ofthat there because I want you to
have the full picture of reallywhat this is.
We should never be takinganything at face value, ladies.
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We should always be questioningeverything and we really need to
fact-check and do our ownresearch.
Do not just take anything atface value.
So here's the article, right?
So it says that increased mealfrequency does increase your
disease risk.
Period.
It is real.
It actually does happen.
Now, I went further and I wastrying to find more information.
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And let's see here, over theyears, there have been studies
that show benefits to eatingmore frequent meals, right?
Questionable, as well as studiesthat show the downsides of it.
Again, you're gonna have that50-50, but it's the same thing
with eating meat, right?
I'm a vegetarian, I don't eatmeat.
Processed foods, all processedfoods, meat falls into the
category of processed foods.
Why?
Because the animals are given,they're given injections,
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they're given chemicals, they'regiven medicine to boost up how
much they grow.
And then you're eating all ofthese hormones and you're eating
everything that's in there,that's going to affect your
health.
Like everyone's questioning whyis there so much cancer today?
Why is why is cancer so rampant?
Like, why is disease so rampant?
You know, what are we, what dowe do?
Let's give each other moremedicine.
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No, actually, the answer isright here in front of our
faces, but we're not looking atit because again, we're taking
everything at face value.
Let me see here.
So let's see.
The three meals a dayrecommendation didn't come out
of out of nowhere.
In one sense, it all comes downto math.
This I found very interesting.
It says here, quote unquote, theaverage adult human requires
2,000 calories per day andyou're only awake for so many
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hours, et cetera, et cetera.
The article's about something alittle bit different, right?
So this is focused on a 2,000calorie a day diet.
Now, I will say this.
I don't eat 2,000 calories aday, like at all, ever.
I do not eat 2,000 calories aday.
It's quite a bit.
Well, why is 2,000 calories aday recommended?
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Hold on, let me break this downfor you.
So you're thinking to yourself,well, the guidelines say 2,000
calories a day, so I must atleast get close to this if I'm
going to be healthy, right?
Wrong.
Why is 2,000 calories used as astandard?
The FDA needed a referencenumber to standardize nutrition
labels and include the percentdaily value.
The 2,000 calorie amount was asimple mathematical figure to
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use for these calculations.
Okay, so we have ding ding ding,answer one.
Well, it's a simple figure, butwhere did they get this simple
figure, right?
The number was based on publicsurveys where people reported
their daily calorie intake.
Men reported eating an averageof 2,000 to 3,000, and women
reported 1,600 to 2,200.
So we settled on 2,000 as middleground.
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Well, hold on a second, people.
Let's take this back anotherlayer.
A simple survey of whateverybody's eating is what is
informing a 2,000 calorie-a-daydiet.
So it's not based on we've doneresearch that has informed us
that you need to eat 2,000calories a day to survive and be
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a well-being human being andhave wellness and be all that
you can be.
That's not what that is.
It was a simple survey sent outto many people and it came back
with this result.
And so they settled on a numberand everybody ate it up with a
spoon in their 2,000 calorie aday diets and said, Well, I need
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to have three meals a daybecause I need to hit that
number in order to be healthyand achieve X, Y, and Z.
Or alternatively, well, it's2,000 calories a day.
So if I'm eating 1700, it'sfine.
Or if I'm eating 1500, it'sfine.
Yeah, sure, it's fine.
But are you meant to be eatingthat much?
The answer is no, you're not.
There is quite a bit in thebackground of this that is
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rooted in marketing and it'srooted in selling us something.
It's rooted in marketing food onfood on food on us.
Why is it rooted in that?
Because that's business.
Don't want, again, I don't wantto go conspiracy theory on you,
but really, really think aboutthis.
Think through everything we'rebeing fed, these big grand rules
that we've been told.
Now, this has been like a topicof a debate at my house because
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I don't eat until 12 o'clockevery single day.
I always wait until 12.
Sometimes I wait until two orthree.
I will go as long as I can.
Some days I do really well withit.
I can hold out until two orthree o'clock.
Some days at 12 o'clock, I'malready chewing my arm off.
But in any case, I'm alwaysfasting for about um 16 hours,
roughly.
14 to 16 hours.
I'm always fasting for 14 to 16hours, plus some.
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I will always try to go morethan that because the health
benefits are so real and they'reso not promoted.
Intermittent fasting is promotedas a, oh, you're gonna lose
weight.
But when you dig deeper intothat, there are a lot of health
benefits that are behind thescenes that you have no idea
about.
And the most interesting thingwhen you do start fasting is you
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start to realize it's the firstthing you put in your mouth,
food-wise, is critical becauseit actually tells you a lot
about how what it's doing insideyour body.
Now, I've said to other folks,like, if I am like hangry, I'm
going crazy, right?
And I hit my fasting mark andI'm like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna
eat now.
If I eat carbs, if I eatsomething starchy, one, it hurts
my stomach.
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And two, I am immediatelylethargic.
Immediately.
I immediately am tired and Istart to get really droopy and I
have to drink my ca my littletea, my caffeine tea, and try to
get myself back up and shake itoff.
If I eat something that is highin protein, um, I have like
loads of protein yogurt in myfridge.
If I eat something light, if Ieat eggs, if I eat something
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that is good protein and, youknow, lighter and not carb
heavy, my body responds well.
I do want to point somethingout.
I did just note that I eat eggs.
Yes, I am a vegetarian who eatseggs.
I was struggling with my ironintake.
Um, and so every once in a whileI will incorporate eggs to help
boost me a little bit, but Ialso go really heavy on kale,
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beets, you know, I try toreally, I really try very hard.
Every once in a while I do eateggs because of the iron um
situation.
I'm very interested in hearingfrom some of you on this.
And I would really encourage allof you to look into this whole
marketing thing we're being fedthat we have to eat three meals
a day.
You can only eat certain foodsat certain times.
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It is actually very ridiculous.
You can eat whatever.
You want to eat beans forbreakfast because you are a
vegetarian, you're trying to getyour protein and you need
legooms, eat beans forbreakfast.
Like it's really, it can beanything you need it to be to
suit your lifestyle, but to alsosuit your health.
But I encourage you to reallylook into this.
I encourage you to dig deeper.
And I'm I'm gonna really pushfor all of you to really start
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peeling the layers back and thethings that we're being told and
the things we're being fed,quite literally being fed.
There is more to the story thanwhat we have been accepting at
this point.
And we actually need to startbecoming more aware.
Um, I hope you found thisinformative.
I'm very appreciative of you.
I'm grateful that you'relistening with me, and I will
catch you on the next one.
Take care.