August 27, 2025 • 45 mins
What if that persistent heaviness you've been carrying isn't actually yours? Elizabeth Kipp, bestselling author and stress management specialist, reveals how ancestral energy patterns can manifest as physical symptoms, emotional blocks, and limiting beliefs—often without our conscious awareness.
Elizabeth shares her remarkable journey from sensing mysterious family weight at just four years old to eventually discovering the profound impact of generational patterns on her health. After a severe equestrian accident left her with chronic pain, medical professionals delivered a devastating verdict: "You can't heal from chronic pain." This pronouncement sparked her realization that Western medicine, limited to what can be observed and measured, couldn't address the full spectrum of healing possibilities.
Drawing from her unique background in both science and spiritual practice, Elizabeth explains how chronic stress patterns become encoded in our nervous systems, creating momentum that requires specific interventions to change. She introduces the concept of ancestral clearing—a powerful technique that helps release inherited burdens we were never meant to carry.
The conversation explores how our lives are layered like Russian nesting dolls, with our innermost self surrounded by family dynamics, cultural influences, and ancestral imprints all existing simultaneously in the quantum field. This perspective explains why personal healing work ripples outward, affecting relationships and creating space for collective transformation.
Most powerfully, Elizabeth demonstrates an ancestral clearing practice, guiding listeners through a process of acknowledging and releasing inherited patterns with humility and gratitude. The immediate shift—experienced both energetically and physically—offers a glimpse into the profound healing available when we address the root causes rather than just the symptoms.
Ready to explore how ancestral patterns might be affecting your life? Listen now to discover practical tools for recognizing energetic misalignment and reclaiming your authentic self from generational conditioning.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi everybody.
This is Steel Rose's podcast.
This podcast is created forwomen, by women, to elevate
women's voices.
I am especially excited thisevening to introduce all of you
to our guests.
We have Elizabeth Kipp with us.
She is a bestselling author,stress management specialist,
trauma trained and yoga informedrecovery coach, ancestral
clearing practitioner,historical trauma specialist,
(00:22):
certified yoga teacher and PBTInstitute betrayal coach.
She specializes in stress andchronic pain management.
She has a diverse background inplant science, agriculture,
ecology, environmental studiesand remote sensing and hold and
she holds a BS from theUniversity of Delaware.
She pursued an MS inenvironmental studies at the
University of Kansas with anemphasis on remote sensing,
(00:44):
ecology and environmentalresource analysis.
She has done basic and appliedresearch and has authored and
co-authored a number ofpeer-reviewed research papers.
Elizabeth Kipp is a longtimeseeker of truths, with a foot
each in the spiritual andscientific worlds.
Her life experiences andtraining enable her to bridge
the gap between these two worlds.
Elizabeth, welcome to thepodcast.
(01:06):
I know that was a mouthful andI'm like so excited to talk to
you this evening.
So, elizabeth, I gave everyonelike a real broad overview of
everything about you.
I don't know how you had timeto fit all of that into your
life at this point.
I only have one degree and nowI'm like I would love for you to
(01:32):
introduce yourself to thelisteners and let them know you
know how you ended up where youare today and really pick a
focus area that you think islighting you up in this, in this
moment.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Sure.
Thank you so much, jenny.
I'm so excited to be on yourpodcast because there's nothing
more that I like than talking toother women about things that
we don't talk about normally,and one of those things is the
imprint of ancestral energy, andI remember feeling that energy
(02:01):
at the age of four years old,feeling it in the room what am I
doing in this family?
I literally asked that question.
But of course, in my family youdidn't ask that kind of
question out loud.
Nobody wanted to hear about that, and I didn't know what it was
except the weight, and I knewthere was something that my
family wasn't telling me, but Ifelt it, and it wasn't until
(02:25):
probably 12 years ago that I wasable to like, oh, that's a
thing that's actually like,that's actually ancestral weight
.
So the way I got here was Icome from a lovely but
dysfunctional family, which iswhy the what am I doing in this
family thing was going happeningfamily, which is why the what
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am I doing in this family thingwas going happening.
And and I had I had a lot ofchronic pain as a child because
of emotional repression.
Right, sit down, be quiet.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
We don't want to hear what you had to say.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
And then I asked you a question, give me an answer.
You told me not to say anything.
So, anyway, so a lot of emotionthere, but I'm not allowed to
emote.
No, what am I supposed to dowith that?
So that sets you up for set meup anyway for what I call today
a chronic stress pattern, whereI'm always looking for the
threat.
That was the way I mean.
I never knew when I was goingto get in trouble or for what,
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because that's the way it was.
That was the kind ofdysfunction I was dealing with.
So that sets up in the nervoussystem.
This is how we do life.
We do life like this and it's ahabit.
It has momentum and it's that.
Particular chronic stress isactually caustic to the nervous
system.
Particular chronic stress isactually caustic to the nervous
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system.
It spins up all kinds of stresshormones that were not made for
that.
So, anyway, that reallyinformed my life.
And I had an.
I had an accident and broke thebase of my spine an equestrian
accident and ended up having alot of surgery to try and
stabilize that and in theprocess, the doctor.
There was a lot of paininvolved and in the, in the
(04:07):
process, the, the doctors um, sothat went undiagnosed for a
long time and then, when it didget diagnosed, it was improperly
treated.
All they knew was like here areyour opiates and your
benzodiazepines and you know,this is what we have.
This is the best quality oflife you could get.
And I was like and they saidyou can't heal from chronic pain
(04:29):
.
Now that blew me away as apatient, you know, coming from
academia.
Well, they're the experts, theyknow all the stuff, and so I
believe them.
And it was devastating to me,but there was something in the
back of my mind that was likethere's something wrong with
this picture, and it took me awhile but I finally figured out
(04:53):
that they had made an error.
This is where the science partcame in right.
I had all this training in howto do science, research and
assumptions and questions andall the things research and
assumptions and questions andall the things and I was like,
oh, they've forgotten theirbasic science, which is science,
is all about probabilities,it's not about facts.
They said you will.
They should have said theprobability is.
(05:14):
They didn't say that.
They gave me a pronouncement,so I knew that they'd made an
error.
And the other thing was theywere telling so they're working.
Western medicine works in thescientific model, which is a
limited, it's a self-limitingframework, because it can only
talk about that which it canobserve, measure and describe.
It can't talk about anythingoutside of that.
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But where do we live?
We live in the all, that is notjust in the part that science
can observe, measure anddescribe.
So our healing, we referenceall of it, not just that part.
So I knew that they weretelling me about the limitation
of the model they were workingwith Right.
And they really weren't making acomment about the body's
(05:58):
ability to heal.
They were saying within thismodel, we see this limitation.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
But that's not what they said, right, because
they're only referencing the onemodel within this model, we see
this limitation, but that's notwhat they said, right, because
they're only referencing the onemodel.
And what I want to say for thelisteners that that might be
tuned in at this point formedical professionals, like they
have to basically use aparticular framework, like
annually for all disease states,for all you know, like I'll say
(06:23):
, I'll go with you know, obgyns,for example, there's this
organization called ACOG andit's like the American Society
of this, and that whateverthere's these larger
organizations that will set outthese like frameworks, like this
is how you treat your patients,this is, this is how you can
diagnose them, this is thestructure of it.
And so all medicalprofessionals kind of fall under
(06:43):
these cones of oh well, thistop said this, so everyone is
going to follow that.
But what Elizabeth is sayinghere is, but there is something
outside of that.
So, yes, that's one framework,that's one way to treat things,
but just because there's themedical side, but there is a
whole other side to being ableto address things I want to
circle back to, because youmeant you did say about 12 years
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or when you were younger, youhad felt like the ancestral
energy, and I am.
I am actually very curious aboutthis because I very much am
into energies and and how andhow your, your own energy and
the energy around you affectsyour health and affects your
well-being.
Ancestral energy like what isthat exactly Like?
How would you explain that?
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Wow.
So I have to build a frameworkfor the audience here.
So I have a frame of reference,because that's a big question
and I want to paint thelandscape.
So people come to me and theysay you know, I have this issue
and is it ancestral or is it?
You know what is it?
And really, from a from anhonest science point of view,
(07:51):
with looking at it from aquantum, from the quantum field,
not the, not the Newtonian, butthe quantum, think about this.
Imagine our lives.
Each of us is in a Russian doll.
You know those nested dolls onedoll and a bigger one, and a
bigger one right, and then thevery little one on the inside is
me with just my stuff, or youwith just your stuff, right.
(08:14):
Next one out is me with myactual family, my nuclear family
or my immediate family.
The next one out is where I live, the culture that I'm living in
and its effect right, thatenergy it has an energy, right.
And then the next one out ismaybe the country that I'm
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living in and the vibe of thecountry.
And then we've got the world.
We also have the present.
It's all in the present moment.
What's happening in thecollective in this moment?
Well, are you talking about myfamily, or the collective of my
family, or the collective of thetown?
We got a big football gamegoing on here where I'm right
now.
There's all kinds of stuffgoing on there, right.
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Or is it the state?
Is it the country?
There's all kinds of stuffgoing on here.
Is it the world?
There's all kinds of stuffgoing on here.
Is it the world?
There's all kinds of stuffhappening on the planet.
Then we can look at celestialstuff and the effect of the body
, of the celestial body.
So we're it's a big landscape.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Add the last doll, which is the ancestral piece.
So you're looking at thequantum field.
We access through the presentmoment.
We access the past, present andfuture all at once.
So I can't actually answer thathonestly that oh, it's this or
it's that, but we address it.
We address all of it, whateverit is, through the present
(09:34):
moment and we include theancestral piece.
So now I felt this weight as Isaid, dysfunctional family and I
knew that my mother wasdistraught and unable to cope
with life and I knew that my dadit wasn't like he was a doormat
, he just kind of was very quietand kind of held space, Attuned
(09:59):
to the whole family the bestthat he could and tried to be
calm, Right, so his lap was thesafest place in the house in my
life, so as a kid.
But but I felt this heavy, Ieven felt the heaviness from him
, and I didn't know until laterbecause nobody talked about
stuff in my family.
(10:20):
We don't talk about that ifit's unpleasant.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
That's like the whole generation, though because
that's I talk about thatactually a lot I joke with some
of the guests I'm like there's awhole generation, like my
parents' generation, where, likeyou didn't talk about your
feelings, Like that wasn't athing.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
That's right, we don't talk about that, so, but I
felt it and I felt the weightand the problem was, listen, I'm
a four-year-old kid and I'mfeeling this stuff and I don't
know what to do with any of it,and so I just felt it.
Now, one of the things thatkids do and we do clear for this
in Ancestral Clearing one ofthe things that kids do is when
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they see their parentsstruggling, they'll do
everything they can to take thaton for them.
And they can't, but they do itenergetically.
You're talking about energy.
So now you know, now you've got, you've got, oh, I feel this
thing and I'm going to take iton, so that I don't know if that
(11:17):
really answers your question.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
You know it does, and so I, I, I understand I get it.
So I just want to, I want totry to distill it a little bit
more for the listeners, foreveryone tuning in.
It isn't just, it's not not.
We're not talking about like aphysical, it's not a physical
presence, but it's all happeninglike on the same.
Well, maybe it is a physicalpresence that you know, like I,
(11:39):
I said it and I'm like, oh no,but and I can let me say it in
energy, like energetically shewas sensing and the way that you
might sense that or someonelistening might sense that, is
you get a feeling.
If you're in tune with yourintuition, you will pick up the
energy in the room or you willget this feeling and it's not
just in the room, in the spacethat you're in with the people
(12:01):
that you're in, the weights thatpeople are carrying.
My husband is very sensitive tothis, Like he's really sensitive
.
My kids very sensitive to it,Like we're high and tuned in the
house, my kids very much cansense like when I'm frustrated,
I'm stressed out.
My daughter, specifically oneof my girls, very much tries to
(12:22):
she it's very sweet, but I I'vebeen trying to remind her lately
I'm like it's not your job tohave to do this.
She tries to make everybodyhappy and so she'll get really
silly.
And I have twin girls.
This is one of the twins willget very silly.
And she because she's trying topick the energy up in the room,
and the other day I noticed herdoing it more so.
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And the other day I pulled heraside and I was like listen, I
was like I just want you to knowthis and I'm going to remind
you when you do it again.
I was like you don't have to dothat.
I appreciate that you're tryingto make people happy and you
want everyone to have a goodtime.
I was like, but you only cancontrol your own feelings.
You can't control the feelingsof everybody else around you,
and I'm trying to get thatmessage across to them now when
(13:03):
they're kids.
Like lessons like that to me islike really crucial because a
lot of even myself included alot of people who you know have
experienced like trauma growingup or you know, like my parents'
separation was trauma for mewhen I was growing up and
because of that weight that Iwent through with that, I always
felt like like I had to fixthings, I had to carry everyone
(13:23):
else's emotional burdens andthat's not you know it's.
It's not your responsibility.
So I was relaying that messageto my daughter.
So I'm like you don't have todo that, you don't have to lift
the energy in the room, Just bewho you are.
That alone could lift thevibrational energy in the room.
You know, just be yourself andlike be your own person and be
(13:44):
happy in the moment, and thatwould essentially lift the
energy in the room.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Well, you have a.
You have that's a blessing thedynamic you just described in
your family and that you've gotthat openness and awareness.
In my case, I think.
I think I arrived on the spot,sensitive and with the
dysfunction in the household,like the eggshell walking.
It was like I have to know howto read the room and I have to
know how to read people in orderto keep myself safe.
(14:12):
So that gets really quite.
I mean, I think it'sinteresting because my brother,
who's three years older than mecompletely opposite, we both got
, I mean, we have theseconversations.
I'm like wait a minute, whathousehold did you?
Speaker 1 (14:27):
grow up in.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
I know I have the same thing with my brothers too,
and we all get together.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Like my older brother remembers things so differently
and I'm like where were you,where did you live?
Speaker 2 (14:39):
but he, he has a he's much, it's more like he's.
His deal was to stay safe.
He just numbed out.
Yeah, I was just fully aliveand you were on to all of it you
were really in tune with it.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
you were picking up on it and honestly that like
pull, and you pulling from thatenergy and then you really
internalizing it because you,you know it's like god forbid,
you open your mouth, you'regonna get it, but also open your
mouth like that.
All that like really confusingmessaging like that all gets
like kind of ingrained into yournervous system.
And you had said it earlier,you're like you, you have, you
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learn this way of being and thenyou take it with you and then,
because your energy was alignedto that, you probably attracted
some not so nice situationsearlier on, because your energy
was sending out this signal oflike think of it and listeners,
you think of your energy and howthe energy in your body almost
(15:34):
like it's like a bounce backreflection, like everything you
put out is going to come backover to you.
So if you are carrying aroundthis weight of stress and trauma
, and you know this energy thatyou inherited and you pulled
from you know growing up.
If you don't dispel that andyou don't take you know,
acknowledge it and let it go.
That could really rot your core.
(15:56):
And it will come out inphysical ailments Like that is
how it works.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Yeah, yeah, so I'll lay it out for you.
You beautifully said, and I'lllay it out just a little bit
more like a little morephysiology there is.
We have a stress response.
That's this amazing mechanismthat when we get threatened or
perceive a threat which is thesame to the nervous system, it
goes on and all this physiology,psychology, biochemistry just
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comes out.
We meet the threat, the stressresponse goes into the off
position.
In chronic stress, the stressresponse gets stuck in the on
position.
So now you've got that issueand that changes the way the
brain perceives the world, whichfeeds right into what you just
said.
Now, what's interesting to meand I love this so much the
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brain is this highly sensitive,attuned to the present moment
thing.
So everything I'm doing in thepresent moment informs the brain
.
Now the brain has the momentumof the past built into it and I
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know I have a stress habit.
I've been working on unwindingthis stress habit for 12 years
and it's so much better.
But think about it a little bitlike physics.
In physics they say an objectin motion stays in motion until
acted on by an equal or oppositeforce All right, stays in
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motion until acted on by anequal or opposite force All
right.
So a habit, stress habit, anyhabit in the nervous system has
momentum, all right.
So it's in motion.
It's an object in motion withmomentum.
So the only way you're going tochange that situation is to
come with an object of equal oropposite force.
Meditation is one of thosethings, ancestral clearing is
one of those things, yoga is oneof those things, right, et
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cetera.
So but you have to kind ofunderstand what's happening and
all those practices.
They work on the present moment.
And so I have an old hand.
Why am I still working on thisfreaking habit?
Because I built it over like 60years.
Am I still working on thisfreaking habit?
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Because I built it over like 60years.
So every time that I am in asituation where I'm starting to
feel activated in a dysregulatedway I've had enough practice.
Now I drop into the breath, Iput some space between the words
.
Where are my feet?
All the things, right?
What am I doing?
I'm shifting my attention tothe new way of living instead of
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dropping into the old one,right?
Because that thing, that oldstress habit, actually is a
default and I'm learning and I'mbuilding a new default.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
What Elizabeth is describing right now is she's
essentially rewiring her brainExactly.
So I've done some reading onthis.
I discovered meditation I thinkI told you when we had our
intro call so I had discoveredmeditation about four years ago,
roughly, maybe three years ago.
I had hit like a, I guess,crossroads in my life where I I
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was like burned out.
I, I was just totally burnedout.
You know, my, my kids were born2016 and 2017, so I had three
infants at the same time andwhile that was happening, I
still was like, oh no, I, I'mstill gonna have my career, I
can do it all.
And I was only sleep for aboutfour years, I was only sleeping
two hours a day and I wasworking like these crazy hours
(19:34):
Cause, you know, once you havekids and you want to be a
professional, you're like, oh no, I need to make up for the fact
that I had children.
So you work extra, you know,and I went through this four
year period of like justcompletely depleting my body of
pretty much any kind of anything.
So much so that I kept saying tomy cousin I was like I feel
like something bad is going tohappen because I am just not
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taking care of myself and it'sjust running me ragged.
And so we get to the house thatwe live in right now.
We bought it in November 2021.
Spring 2022 was when I hit thiswall and I was like I have to
make a change here.
I can't keep doing this.
Something needs to give.
Um, yeah, between 2021 and 2022, I stumbled upon meditation.
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Actually, while I wasresearching how to podcast
because I didn't know what to do, I stumbled upon this woman who
had the successful podcast this.
This is synchronicity at itsfinest, by the way, elizabeth,
that's why I like to hear that.
I was looking like, oh, how doyou podcast, how do I do this?
And when I did that, I foundthis woman's podcast and she had
an episode that was like had apodcast, but then she also had
(20:42):
all these work online courses.
I took one of her courses thatincluded podcasting, but it was
so much more and it was, youknow, tapping and meditation and
breath work and really learningthe science behind aligning
your energy with the universeand what's really there.
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And it was like this massiveawakening of my spirit.
That has been.
That was like shrouded for 37years and I finally was able to
uncover her and it was this.
It was like this gloriousrebirth and in that meditation,
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one of the practices that I didthat it was very interesting
because it goes back to theweight that I felt like on my
spirit, and one of the practiceswas you know, you go into this,
you go into meditation and youget yourself into the present
moment and you focus on yourname.
So you say your full name.
So I would say, like I am JennyBenitez and you would focus on
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that for a little bit.
How does that make you feel?
What do you feel when you sayyour full name like that, and it
felt loaded, it felt heavy,Like it felt.
I felt the weight of my entireworld, which really is real on
my shoulders, cause that's, thatis true.
Like I, and you said it earlier,like I do it all, I do do it
all, I carry a lot.
And then the second part in themeditation was just to say well
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, I am Jenny.
The first time I did it I waslike I was sobbing, because the
differentiation between thisweight that I was carrying and
me just like in the nestingdolls, little Jenny in the
nesting doll, that was just mewas like this free spirit that
had been crushed and she wasjust desperately trying to claw
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her way out and it took.
I mean that uncovered.
I mean, that was like a fullyear of me, like scraping off
all the walls and the brick thatI had put up, and it was the
craziest thing and it wasrewiring my brain and I noticed
it was very interesting becauseit didn't just affect me like
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while I was going through thisum, it affected my husband
positively.
It affected my kids positively.
Of course, it impacted ourmarriage positively.
like it, it did all of thesethings and I've talked a lot
about on the podcast, about yourenergy and aligning it in the
right way.
And you know there's also likewhen you're with people, you'll
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notice, like there's people thatyou, if you go and visit people
and then you leave, you'regonna feel drained.
It's because the weight of whatthey're carrying affects you
while you're with them and itdraws from your energy.
Yeah, we have to be consciousyou have to be aware and so,
like the biggest thing that Ialways say on the podcast and
I've said to other people, likeyour feelings are really a
(23:35):
barometer, Like that's reallyyou if you feel uncomfortable or
you feel something's not quiteright, or I can kind of sense
that this person they're smilingin my face and they're saying
hello and they're hugging me,but I get like they're hugging
me, but I get like a feeling.
Yeah, I get like a feeling andthat's when you know like, oh,
this person, like their energyis not quite right.
maybe I don't want to spendenough time with them and once
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you start like scraping thesethings off, like you're going
through it right now, as you'resaying, like you're rewiring
your brain.
It's like creating a whole.
It's getting yourself back toyou.
It's not creating a person,you're already in there, but
it's just a matter of likecleaning everything out.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Yeah, I love that you did that exercise.
I did something similar to thatbecause I learned once I like I
felt the way to the family, andthen I learned about the family
, oh my God, and it became this.
It became this.
I don't know this thing that Icarried and yeah, a lot of rocks
in it and I sat one summer Ithink it was the summer of 2019,
(24:32):
so close to when you were doingyour thing.
I sat there and I sat with thisquestion in my meditation who
would I be without the story ofmy family?
That was a very powerfulquestion, yeah.
So the answer was I don't know,but I'd like to find out.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
It's kind of like that.
It's really interesting becauseit's like you go through your
whole life and a lot of peopleare going through their whole
lives on autopilot and justdoing what they should do and
not realizing that there's thiswhole other plane that is trying
to tell you something andyou're not listening well, it's
like I, when I, when you'retalking about that, I break it
(25:14):
down as simply as possible forme, because I just do better.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Then I mean I can do complicated, but it doesn't
usually serve me.
So am I feeling contracted orexpanded in this conversation or
around this person or in thisgroup or whatever?
And that is a great barometer.
The other thing I want to saythat I just want to like
underline what you said, becauseit's so important and it's kind
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of the principle of ancestralclearing why it works in the
first place.
Think about, like the 3D world,the Newtonian kind of physics,
where you take a bag of marblesand you throw them on the floor
and they'll scatter and they'llcome to a halt and they'll just
sit there and then you push oneof them and all the other ones
stay still.
Yeah, Just that one moves Inthe quantum world.
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When you push one marble, theyall move in relationship to that
.
So when you're doing that work,this is our world.
We're all marbles in thequantum field, moving in
relationship to each other.
I kind of made it a little bitcomplicated there, but that's
what's happening, why your wholefamily is affected.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Yeah, you know, and I was worried at first because I
remember thinking to myself, man, I'm doing all this work to try
to clear myself.
And you know, at the time, likemy husband was still how he
always was, like very you knownot, I don't want to say he was
very negative, but he, hecarried a lot of weight, like he
had a lot of weight andmajority of what he said it was
(26:42):
kind of veered towards thenegative.
And I used to say to myself,like my God, like I'm trying so
hard to to fix me, and like whatif, like he, he pulls me, pulls
me?
Like what if he pulls me in thewrong direction?
And the opposite started tohappen and we started to go like
together on up.
So it was, it was a I was veryhappy to see that and even, like
(27:03):
you know, my, my kids.
They will reiterate some of someof the things that I say to
them where I'm like you know ofcourse they do this, you know,
like I mean, yeah, they repeateverything basically, but you
know, I I like to be able tolike lead by example.
One thing I wanted to sharewith you too and the listeners
in the same line of energy.
I haven't done a lot ofresearch into chakras yet, but I
(27:25):
have been like kind of touchingon it.
Yeah, I've been kind oftouching, and one of the ones,
one of the things that thethroat chakra is very important
to me, as you obviously said, ismy voice.
It's very important to me.
And so two and a half years agoor so, I was working at this
other job.
I have a different job now andyou know, in my industry you
(27:46):
have to interview a bunch oftimes and go through this whole
big thing.
So I get this role at thisagency and within a couple of
weeks, randomly, I lost my voice, like physically lost.
It Never had happened to mebefore.
It's gone for a week I couldn'tspeak.
I'm like that's odd, but at thetime I'm like that's odd.
(28:07):
I didn't think anything else ofit, just besides, that's odd
While I was at that particularagency, which ended up being a
very bad place for me to work.
In a nutshell, um, while I wasthere, I lost my voice four
times, flat out, just lost it,and I remember once I hit that
fourth.
It was between the third andfourth time was when I had
(28:29):
started to figure out meditatingand everything, and that's when
I started realizing I was like,oh, oh, my God.
I was like I think I think I'mphysically losing my voice
because the energy is so bad andI work virtually, so you can
imagine if I was working inperson how bad it would have
been.
The energy was so bad that itquite literally stole my voice
(28:53):
the energy was so bad that itquite literally stole my voice.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Well, I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't.
I'm going to push back on thatbecause I wouldn't give my power
away like that I would.
I would say that that it'sreacting in such a way that it's
giving you some information,and what you do with that
information is is is well, it'sjust a different perspective.
I'm not saying you're wrong,I'm just saying like, yeah, I'd
(29:16):
look at it a little bitdifferently.
It's information, and what am Igoing to do with this
information?
And you kept getting themessage again and again.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Okay, that perspective.
Thank you for doing that,elizabeth.
That perspective sounds muchmore right for what the
situation was, because it wasalmost like and now that you've
said it, it was basically like asignal saying like, look, look
at how you're reacting here.
Like, look at what this is,like a warning shot to tell you.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Now that this is the thing that you're talking about,
we're both talking about is theconsciousness to see how we're
reacting right.
We're not calling it bad orgood or or right or wrong.
We're just saying, oh, I'mdoing this thing, you know.
Is this, you know again, isthis am I contracting or am I
expanding in this experience?
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Thank you, I appreciate that.
Thank you for saying that.
You're right, it's really andyou know that's.
One other thing I want to touchon too here is that not many
people are paying attention inthat way or really listening.
I think there's been signals andsigns my entire life for things
that I missed and now, when Ithink back on stuff, I'm like,
oh my God, this makes more sensenow because this happened and
(30:28):
this all fell this way intoplace.
It's once you start to tap intothis, it's very interesting
because there's so much thereand then it makes so much more
sense for the lives that we'reliving now.
And you know, elizabeth, onething that I worry about not
worried, but something that alsocrossed my mind quite a bit now
, especially now in today'sworld, there's so much noise
(30:50):
because I know, man, oh my god,it's, I don't.
I'm not the podcast I have onsocial, for obvious reasons,
like I have to put it outsomewhere.
But like me personally, I'm notengaged like that, like I.
Actually I work on a computerall day, so as soon as I can not
look at a screen, I don't lookat screens.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
And.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
I see my kids and my husband, everybody constantly,
constantly with and the noisepollution and I think it's
further disconnecting our wholesociety from how we're supposed
to be.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Well, there's, there's that.
There's that aspect of it Ahundred percent.
We have to be very discerningabout all that we're bringing
into our field food, water,media, all everything we're
consuming.
We really want to try and beconscious.
The other thing I had to sayabout the digital world Johan
(31:45):
Hari wrote a book fairlyrecently called Stolen Focus and
how to Think Deeply Again, andit's very interesting because he
talked about a phenomenon.
It's a lot of science in it.
He studied, talked to a bunchof scientists that worked on
focus and stuff.
One of the things that hetalked about that really
(32:05):
impressed me was this phenomenonof switching.
So you're switching from youand I are having a conversation
right now.
But if I had a notification onmy phone and stopped and went
and did that and then I cameback to you, that's really hard
on the brain Because now I haveto expend energy coming back to
where I was to begin with andit's not only inefficient, it's
(32:29):
actually really hard on thebrain, right.
Efficient.
It's actually really hard onthe brain, right.
So, really to like, yes,digital world, but your instinct
of like getting off the screenas soon as possible, right on,
and we want to really, really,really, you know, drop the
notifications unless they'reabsolutely crucial, because it's
(32:50):
just ding, ding, ding and thebind is being and now, now we're
actually like, well, we'readding stress into the brain,
right, and now we can't thinkstraight and we've got it.
It affects the emotions and andwe get more negative and all
the things.
So that's a that's an importantpoint.
So we have to be discerning andwe have to kind of understand
how does this brain actuallyoperate relative to what's
(33:13):
happening in the world, like howwe're responding, right.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
You know, what I thought was very interesting
when I was learning aboutrewiring my brain was that when
you're going through thatpractice of like trying to
change how you're responding tostuff, obviously it takes
repetition right and for a lotof people what ends up happening
is because they make that firstleap, it takes repetition right
and for a lot of people whatends up happening is because
they make that first leap and itfeels uncomfortable.
(33:38):
They stop in their head.
They're like, oh well, it feelsuncomfortable, it must not be
right.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
That's an error Because it's in the manual.
Yeah, because because remember,momentum, right, habit,
momentum, and we are trying tochange the trajectory.
So we've got networks in thebrain that are running.
The more we access them, thefaster and quicker that they
(34:07):
wire, they fire, and when we tryand change the brain it gets
uncomfortable because the brainis actually doing work.
So when my meditation teachersaid to me you know, we took us
through Adi Kundalini Yoga.
We do these crazy meditations.
They're amazing, but they'rejust.
They can be kind of intense,and he says you're gonna feel
(34:30):
resistance and that's when youknow it's working.
So you're gonna feel resistanceand that's when you know it's
working.
So you're going to feelresistance and that's when the
brain's starting to change.
So hang in there, because youget on the other side of that.
But the resistance is the signthat it's working.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
It's interesting because I get resistance.
I still get it Like I getresistance and I get fear, like
quite a bit.
And one of the things that hashappened to me, especially with
the podcast because this is, youknow, my husband has said to me
he's like, wow, you really likeyou talk about a lot of stuff
on there and I'm like he's likeyou just put it all out there.
A lot of people have said to me, like women have said to me,
(35:05):
like I, I don't know how you'recomfortable doing that and I'm
like I don't know, like I itfeels, it feels so good that I'm
like I can't not do it.
So one of the things thathappens quite a bit with the
podcast is I'll want to stop.
It happens a lot and I want tosay at least two or three times
(35:27):
a year I'll get this almost likea dip is how I refer to it
where I like you know I, I don'tknow if I should still do this,
and a lot of it also will belike imposter syndrome kind of
situation where I'm like I thinkI said it's I don't know if I
said it's you or somebody elsewhat are you doing?
Like who?
Who are you to be bringingguests?
Speaker 2 (35:44):
exactly with you.
Like who the?
Speaker 1 (35:45):
hell are you like?
You're just Jenny from NewJersey, like what the hell you
think you're doing here, and I,like, will have these really
beat up sessions in my head.
And earlier this year I had asituation like that where I was
like I was burned out.
We were really busy at my, mydaytime job and I had enrolled
the kids in way too manyactivities.
So it's totally sensory sensoryoverload for me.
And then you know I have thepodcast and I want to do the
(36:07):
podcast.
I love the podcast, but in that, in that moment, with
everything else going on, in inthis dip of like Jenny, what are
you even doing?
Like, just stop.
You're not like Joe Rogan,you're not like this big
podcaster, You're just thislittle nobody.
It's very interesting,elizabeth.
Every single time somethinglike that happens to me, within
(36:27):
a week or two there will be asign that just happens, that
says you have to keep going.
And when it happened to me thisyear listen to this.
When it happened to me thisyear.
Every time I come very closeand I'm like maybe I'll just do
a farewell episode, just call ita day Like you did what you
could, jenny, kind of thing.
This season, when that happenedto me in the month the month
(36:54):
that it happened it was in JuneJuly ended up being the highest
downloaded month for the podcast.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
I was gonna say you probably got a whole bunch of
downloads.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
It was the craziest thing I've ever seen.
It was double my normal amount.
It doubled.
And I was like, oh my god.
And then this month I gotnotified you know, podcasts are
all ranked and stuff like thatand I got notified that I made
the top 200 list in Peru.
And I'm like, oh, that's cool,what the hell?
(37:22):
I'm like this is really coolBecause and the reason why and,
listeners, the reason why I'mbringing this up is because you
will have moments like this,like in your life, there is
going to be moments where, like,I'm going to throw this all
away, the podcast, like it'ssomething I love so dearly and
deeply.
But I still will have thesemoments of like fear and you
know, and you know impostersyndrome and all these things
that I'm trying to rework mybrain to understand.
(37:44):
Like, oh, jenny, like this isit?
Like this is good, this is inalignment with what you're
supposed to be doing.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Would you like to?
We have time for me to do anancestor clearing for everyone.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
That'll have.
Maybe it might help clear someof the frequency of that in you
and whatever else.
The imposter syndrome is ispretty common, so it might help.
The this is a actually anancestor.
Clearing is a trademarkregistered process that was
taught and developed by johnnewton.
It was pioneered by how Willsand it's really a prayer process
.
So we call on higher powerwhatever you call that, we'll
(38:20):
call it creator.
Today we're calling on it tohelp us release that which no
longer serves us.
We're not asking it to takeanything away, we're asking it
to help us release, and so we doit with humility and gratitude.
So we do the please and thankyou.
So we'll just if you everybodyjust listening just notice what
(38:41):
you're feeling, a sensation inthe body, and maybe give it a
number of intensity, from zeroto 10, and you've got a number
and then just breathe normallyand let these words pass over
you.
Oh, divine spirit, creator ofall, that is all that you are.
Thank you for the manybountiful blessings you bestowed
upon us and our lineages.
We come to you knowing you'realways here with us and all your
(39:03):
great and vast nature.
We ask humbly and gratefullyfor us and all our relationships
and all of our ancestors andall their relationships
throughout all space, time,dimension, realms, lifetimes and
incarnations, for all inheritedenergies passed down to us that
were residue of wounds wedidn't create but were born into
, for all the stories we createdbecause of them, for all the
(39:25):
misunderstanding, blame andsuffering that ensued in the
lineage as a result.
Please help us all to forgiveone another and forgive
ourselves, please, and thank youFor all the times many of us
were abandoned, neglected orotherwise betrayed by parents,
caregivers, partners of thecommunity in love and friendship
or leadership across the familyline, for the letdown we felt
(39:49):
and all the deep mistrust oflife and love that followed, for
not feeling safe to receivesupport and for any fears of
being abandoned if we turnedinto joy, visibility or our
truth.
Please help us all to forgiveand release one another and
forgive everyone involveddirectly or indirectly, for all
of it, please, and thank you forall addiction, escapism
(40:11):
patterns any of us fell into,whether alcoholism, drug abuse,
emotional eating, gambling,control, achievement
codependency or any otherpattern that kept us from
looking within ourselves for theanswer to our wholeness, for
the legacy of numbing our painas a survival strategy and how
it kept us from living lifefully and allowing ourselves to
(40:31):
feel you creator flowing throughus, and for all the limiting
beliefs, judgments andconclusions we had or made that
kept us playing small, not ableto reach our full potential in
life.
Please help us all to forgiveone another and forgive
ourselves, please, and thank youFor all the experiences we have
in justice, persecution,systematic oppression or other
(40:54):
portrayals of authority figures,teachers, coaches, doctors and
nurses, lawyers and judges,spiritual leaders and anyone
else we look to for leadership.
For the times we felt anger andprofound letdown at you,
creator, and for how thatweighed on us and our lives, and
for any spiritual grief we feltthat made trust and surrender
seem impossible.
(41:15):
Please help us all to forgiveone another and forgive
ourselves, please, and thank youFor all survivors' guilt, for
any shame we carried whileothers in the family or the
community suffered.
For any inherited guilt frompast hurts or harms done, and
for any time we were unable tostop harm from happening.
Please help us all to forgiveone another and forgive
(41:35):
ourselves, please, and thank youFor all sexual hurts and wrongs
and any time they wereminimized or went unspoken.
For all secrets within thefamily and how, in such darkness
, those secrets festered intowounds, for any shame carried in
the family around our innateanimal nature, and for any
confusion or conflict about anyof our relationships to
(41:56):
sensuality, boundaries orexpression.
Please help us all to forgiveone another and forgive
ourselves, please, and thank youFor all conflicting DNA, any
energetic tug-of-war in thelineage opposing values,
unresolved family feuds orvendettas or mixed ancestral
allegiances, for any negativeresidue left from the genetic
(42:16):
inference of both the oppressedand the oppressor, and for any
felt sense of identity,confusion or not knowing where
we belong.
Please help us all to forgiveone another and forgive
ourselves, please, and thank youfor how any of these wounds
kept us playing small in life,for any fear of being seen or
heard or stepping into aposition of leadership, for the
(42:37):
times we felt we had to sufferin order to earn love or even
have a sense of belonging.
For any time we fell prey tosubconscious sabotage around
success, intimacy or abundance,for any cycle of perfectionism
or any imbalance between givingand receiving.
Please help us all to forgiveone another and forgive
ourselves receiving.
(42:58):
Please help us all to forgiveone another and forgive
ourselves, please, and thank you.
Please help us step into ourpower and find freedom from the
burdens of this lineage.
Please help us to release thesepatterns and turn back to
realizing our inherent wholeness.
That can never be diminished.
And please help us to reclaimthat space within us where our
true nature was, is and alwayswill be.
Please and thank you, pleaseand thank you, please and thank
(43:20):
you.
Now take a nice big breath inand let it out and notice how
that feels in the body.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
My neck started cracking while you were talking.
Oh my gosh, that was so nice.
Oh my gosh.
I don't know if anybodyactually closed their eyes or
not, but I did.
I loved it.
That was like it feels that youcan.
I can feel it yeah, it'spowerful work.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
Yeah, it blew me away .
The first time I experienced itI was like my science hat was
on.
I was like what's happening inthis room?
I know something's happening.
What is it?
Can I measure it?
Can you repeat it?
Speaker 1 (43:52):
you kind of can't, you can't know, like that.
That's the part that's wild islike people don't really realize
.
Listeners, I'm gonna pull up.
I want to pull up some of umelizabeth's website.
So in even that, you'reinterested, you want to look a
little bit more into workingwith elizabeth.
I have her um website linkedhere.
The way through chronic pain.
This is all intertwined likeit's all intertwined, so it's
(44:14):
super important to justunderstand.
Like you you know, it's notlike the right hand and left
hand are working separately,they're working together on this
one.
Like you have to cut, you haveto do both.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
It's not just one or the other.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
It's really.
You have to just be aware andstart working on your energies.
And then I also have a link foryour book here as well.
The other one was your book.
This is your website, so I havethe website up now.
The other link was the book.
Check out the website.
You'll be able to look throughthe blogs, like resources, on
here, and I'm going to linkeverything into the episode
(44:47):
description as well so you cancheck out.
Elizabeth.
Thank you for joining me today.
This has been like super fun.
Thank you for that.
Oh my gosh, such a beautifulday I've been having and that
was like the cherry on the cakeBeautiful.
Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Well, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
Listeners, you can catch this episode also via your
favorite podcast streamingplatform.
Thank you for joining me todayand I will catch you on the next
one, take care.
Hi everybody.
This is Steel Rose's podcast.
This podcast is created forwomen, by women, to elevate
women's voices.
I am especially excited thisevening to introduce all of you
to our guests.
We have Elizabeth Kipp with us.
She is a bestselling author,stress management specialist,
trauma trained and yoga informedrecovery coach, ancestral
clearing practitioner,historical trauma specialist,
(00:22):
certified yoga teacher and PBTInstitute betrayal coach.
She specializes in stress andchronic pain management.
She has a diverse background inplant science, agriculture,
ecology, environmental studiesand remote sensing and hold and
she holds a BS from theUniversity of Delaware.
She pursued an MS inenvironmental studies at the
University of Kansas with anemphasis on remote sensing,
(00:44):
ecology and environmentalresource analysis.
She has done basic and appliedresearch and has authored and
co-authored a number ofpeer-reviewed research papers.
Elizabeth Kipp is a longtimeseeker of truths, with a foot
each in the spiritual andscientific worlds.
Her life experiences andtraining enable her to bridge
the gap between these two worlds.
Elizabeth, welcome to thepodcast.
(01:06):
I know that was a mouthful andI'm like so excited to talk to
you this evening.
So, elizabeth, I gave everyonelike a real broad overview of
everything about you.
I don't know how you had timeto fit all of that into your
life at this point.
I only have one degree and nowI'm like I would love for you to
(01:32):
introduce yourself to thelisteners and let them know you
know how you ended up where youare today and really pick a
focus area that you think islighting you up in this, in this
moment.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Sure.
Thank you so much, jenny.
I'm so excited to be on yourpodcast because there's nothing
more that I like than talking toother women about things that
we don't talk about normally,and one of those things is the
imprint of ancestral energy, andI remember feeling that energy
(02:01):
at the age of four years old,feeling it in the room what am I
doing in this family?
I literally asked that question.
But of course, in my family youdidn't ask that kind of
question out loud.
Nobody wanted to hear about that, and I didn't know what it was
except the weight, and I knewthere was something that my
family wasn't telling me, but Ifelt it, and it wasn't until
(02:25):
probably 12 years ago that I wasable to like, oh, that's a
thing that's actually like,that's actually ancestral weight
.
So the way I got here was Icome from a lovely but
dysfunctional family, which iswhy the what am I doing in this
family thing was going happeningfamily, which is why the what
(02:45):
am I doing in this family thingwas going happening.
And and I had I had a lot ofchronic pain as a child because
of emotional repression.
Right, sit down, be quiet.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
We don't want to hear what you had to say.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
And then I asked you a question, give me an answer.
You told me not to say anything.
So, anyway, so a lot of emotionthere, but I'm not allowed to
emote.
No, what am I supposed to dowith that?
So that sets you up for set meup anyway for what I call today
a chronic stress pattern, whereI'm always looking for the
threat.
That was the way I mean.
I never knew when I was goingto get in trouble or for what,
(03:25):
because that's the way it was.
That was the kind ofdysfunction I was dealing with.
So that sets up in the nervoussystem.
This is how we do life.
We do life like this and it's ahabit.
It has momentum and it's that.
Particular chronic stress isactually caustic to the nervous
system.
Particular chronic stress isactually caustic to the nervous
(03:47):
system.
It spins up all kinds of stresshormones that were not made for
that.
So, anyway, that reallyinformed my life.
And I had an.
I had an accident and broke thebase of my spine an equestrian
accident and ended up having alot of surgery to try and
stabilize that and in theprocess, the doctor.
There was a lot of paininvolved and in the, in the
(04:07):
process, the, the doctors um, sothat went undiagnosed for a
long time and then, when it didget diagnosed, it was improperly
treated.
All they knew was like here areyour opiates and your
benzodiazepines and you know,this is what we have.
This is the best quality oflife you could get.
And I was like and they saidyou can't heal from chronic pain
(04:29):
.
Now that blew me away as apatient, you know, coming from
academia.
Well, they're the experts, theyknow all the stuff, and so I
believe them.
And it was devastating to me,but there was something in the
back of my mind that was likethere's something wrong with
this picture, and it took me awhile but I finally figured out
(04:53):
that they had made an error.
This is where the science partcame in right.
I had all this training in howto do science, research and
assumptions and questions andall the things research and
assumptions and questions andall the things and I was like,
oh, they've forgotten theirbasic science, which is science,
is all about probabilities,it's not about facts.
They said you will.
They should have said theprobability is.
(05:14):
They didn't say that.
They gave me a pronouncement,so I knew that they'd made an
error.
And the other thing was theywere telling so they're working.
Western medicine works in thescientific model, which is a
limited, it's a self-limitingframework, because it can only
talk about that which it canobserve, measure and describe.
It can't talk about anythingoutside of that.
(05:36):
But where do we live?
We live in the all, that is notjust in the part that science
can observe, measure anddescribe.
So our healing, we referenceall of it, not just that part.
So I knew that they weretelling me about the limitation
of the model they were workingwith Right.
And they really weren't making acomment about the body's
(05:58):
ability to heal.
They were saying within thismodel, we see this limitation.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
But that's not what they said, right, because
they're only referencing the onemodel within this model, we see
this limitation, but that's notwhat they said, right, because
they're only referencing the onemodel.
And what I want to say for thelisteners that that might be
tuned in at this point formedical professionals, like they
have to basically use aparticular framework, like
annually for all disease states,for all you know, like I'll say
(06:23):
, I'll go with you know, obgyns,for example, there's this
organization called ACOG andit's like the American Society
of this, and that whateverthere's these larger
organizations that will set outthese like frameworks, like this
is how you treat your patients,this is, this is how you can
diagnose them, this is thestructure of it.
And so all medicalprofessionals kind of fall under
(06:43):
these cones of oh well, thistop said this, so everyone is
going to follow that.
But what Elizabeth is sayinghere is, but there is something
outside of that.
So, yes, that's one framework,that's one way to treat things,
but just because there's themedical side, but there is a
whole other side to being ableto address things I want to
circle back to, because youmeant you did say about 12 years
(07:09):
or when you were younger, youhad felt like the ancestral
energy, and I am.
I am actually very curious aboutthis because I very much am
into energies and and how andhow your, your own energy and
the energy around you affectsyour health and affects your
well-being.
Ancestral energy like what isthat exactly Like?
How would you explain that?
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Wow.
So I have to build a frameworkfor the audience here.
So I have a frame of reference,because that's a big question
and I want to paint thelandscape.
So people come to me and theysay you know, I have this issue
and is it ancestral or is it?
You know what is it?
And really, from a from anhonest science point of view,
(07:51):
with looking at it from aquantum, from the quantum field,
not the, not the Newtonian, butthe quantum, think about this.
Imagine our lives.
Each of us is in a Russian doll.
You know those nested dolls onedoll and a bigger one, and a
bigger one right, and then thevery little one on the inside is
me with just my stuff, or youwith just your stuff, right.
(08:14):
Next one out is me with myactual family, my nuclear family
or my immediate family.
The next one out is where I live, the culture that I'm living in
and its effect right, thatenergy it has an energy, right.
And then the next one out ismaybe the country that I'm
(08:35):
living in and the vibe of thecountry.
And then we've got the world.
We also have the present.
It's all in the present moment.
What's happening in thecollective in this moment?
Well, are you talking about myfamily, or the collective of my
family, or the collective of thetown?
We got a big football gamegoing on here where I'm right
now.
There's all kinds of stuffgoing on there, right.
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Or is it the state?
Is it the country?
There's all kinds of stuffgoing on here.
Is it the world?
There's all kinds of stuffgoing on here.
Is it the world?
There's all kinds of stuffhappening on the planet.
Then we can look at celestialstuff and the effect of the body
, of the celestial body.
So we're it's a big landscape.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Add the last doll, which is the ancestral piece.
So you're looking at thequantum field.
We access through the presentmoment.
We access the past, present andfuture all at once.
So I can't actually answer thathonestly that oh, it's this or
it's that, but we address it.
We address all of it, whateverit is, through the present
(09:34):
moment and we include theancestral piece.
So now I felt this weight as Isaid, dysfunctional family and I
knew that my mother wasdistraught and unable to cope
with life and I knew that my dadit wasn't like he was a doormat
, he just kind of was very quietand kind of held space, Attuned
(09:59):
to the whole family the bestthat he could and tried to be
calm, Right, so his lap was thesafest place in the house in my
life, so as a kid.
But but I felt this heavy, Ieven felt the heaviness from him
, and I didn't know until laterbecause nobody talked about
stuff in my family.
(10:20):
We don't talk about that ifit's unpleasant.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
That's like the whole generation, though because
that's I talk about thatactually a lot I joke with some
of the guests I'm like there's awhole generation, like my
parents' generation, where, likeyou didn't talk about your
feelings, Like that wasn't athing.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
That's right, we don't talk about that, so, but I
felt it and I felt the weightand the problem was, listen, I'm
a four-year-old kid and I'mfeeling this stuff and I don't
know what to do with any of it,and so I just felt it.
Now, one of the things thatkids do and we do clear for this
in Ancestral Clearing one ofthe things that kids do is when
(10:56):
they see their parentsstruggling, they'll do
everything they can to take thaton for them.
And they can't, but they do itenergetically.
You're talking about energy.
So now you know, now you've got, you've got, oh, I feel this
thing and I'm going to take iton, so that I don't know if that
(11:17):
really answers your question.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
You know it does, and so I, I, I understand I get it.
So I just want to, I want totry to distill it a little bit
more for the listeners, foreveryone tuning in.
It isn't just, it's not not.
We're not talking about like aphysical, it's not a physical
presence, but it's all happeninglike on the same.
Well, maybe it is a physicalpresence that you know, like I,
(11:39):
I said it and I'm like, oh no,but and I can let me say it in
energy, like energetically shewas sensing and the way that you
might sense that or someonelistening might sense that, is
you get a feeling.
If you're in tune with yourintuition, you will pick up the
energy in the room or you willget this feeling and it's not
just in the room, in the spacethat you're in with the people
(12:01):
that you're in, the weights thatpeople are carrying.
My husband is very sensitive tothis, Like he's really sensitive
.
My kids very sensitive to it,Like we're high and tuned in the
house, my kids very much cansense like when I'm frustrated,
I'm stressed out.
My daughter, specifically oneof my girls, very much tries to
(12:22):
she it's very sweet, but I I'vebeen trying to remind her lately
I'm like it's not your job tohave to do this.
She tries to make everybodyhappy and so she'll get really
silly.
And I have twin girls.
This is one of the twins willget very silly.
And she because she's trying topick the energy up in the room,
and the other day I noticed herdoing it more so.
(12:42):
And the other day I pulled heraside and I was like listen, I
was like I just want you to knowthis and I'm going to remind
you when you do it again.
I was like you don't have to dothat.
I appreciate that you're tryingto make people happy and you
want everyone to have a goodtime.
I was like, but you only cancontrol your own feelings.
You can't control the feelingsof everybody else around you,
and I'm trying to get thatmessage across to them now when
(13:03):
they're kids.
Like lessons like that to me islike really crucial because a
lot of even myself included alot of people who you know have
experienced like trauma growingup or you know, like my parents'
separation was trauma for mewhen I was growing up and
because of that weight that Iwent through with that, I always
felt like like I had to fixthings, I had to carry everyone
(13:23):
else's emotional burdens andthat's not you know it's.
It's not your responsibility.
So I was relaying that messageto my daughter.
So I'm like you don't have todo that, you don't have to lift
the energy in the room, Just bewho you are.
That alone could lift thevibrational energy in the room.
You know, just be yourself andlike be your own person and be
(13:44):
happy in the moment, and thatwould essentially lift the
energy in the room.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Well, you have a.
You have that's a blessing thedynamic you just described in
your family and that you've gotthat openness and awareness.
In my case, I think.
I think I arrived on the spot,sensitive and with the
dysfunction in the household,like the eggshell walking.
It was like I have to know howto read the room and I have to
know how to read people in orderto keep myself safe.
(14:12):
So that gets really quite.
I mean, I think it'sinteresting because my brother,
who's three years older than mecompletely opposite, we both got
, I mean, we have theseconversations.
I'm like wait a minute, whathousehold did you?
Speaker 1 (14:27):
grow up in.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
I know I have the same thing with my brothers too,
and we all get together.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Like my older brother remembers things so differently
and I'm like where were you,where did you live?
Speaker 2 (14:39):
but he, he has a he's much, it's more like he's.
His deal was to stay safe.
He just numbed out.
Yeah, I was just fully aliveand you were on to all of it you
were really in tune with it.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
you were picking up on it and honestly that like
pull, and you pulling from thatenergy and then you really
internalizing it because you,you know it's like god forbid,
you open your mouth, you'regonna get it, but also open your
mouth like that.
All that like really confusingmessaging like that all gets
like kind of ingrained into yournervous system.
And you had said it earlier,you're like you, you have, you
(15:14):
learn this way of being and thenyou take it with you and then,
because your energy was alignedto that, you probably attracted
some not so nice situationsearlier on, because your energy
was sending out this signal oflike think of it and listeners,
you think of your energy and howthe energy in your body almost
(15:34):
like it's like a bounce backreflection, like everything you
put out is going to come backover to you.
So if you are carrying aroundthis weight of stress and trauma
, and you know this energy thatyou inherited and you pulled
from you know growing up.
If you don't dispel that andyou don't take you know,
acknowledge it and let it go.
That could really rot your core.
(15:56):
And it will come out inphysical ailments Like that is
how it works.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Yeah, yeah, so I'll lay it out for you.
You beautifully said, and I'lllay it out just a little bit
more like a little morephysiology there is.
We have a stress response.
That's this amazing mechanismthat when we get threatened or
perceive a threat which is thesame to the nervous system, it
goes on and all this physiology,psychology, biochemistry just
(16:27):
comes out.
We meet the threat, the stressresponse goes into the off
position.
In chronic stress, the stressresponse gets stuck in the on
position.
So now you've got that issueand that changes the way the
brain perceives the world, whichfeeds right into what you just
said.
Now, what's interesting to meand I love this so much the
(16:50):
brain is this highly sensitive,attuned to the present moment
thing.
So everything I'm doing in thepresent moment informs the brain
.
Now the brain has the momentumof the past built into it and I
(17:11):
know I have a stress habit.
I've been working on unwindingthis stress habit for 12 years
and it's so much better.
But think about it a little bitlike physics.
In physics they say an objectin motion stays in motion until
acted on by an equal or oppositeforce All right, stays in
(17:32):
motion until acted on by anequal or opposite force All
right.
So a habit, stress habit, anyhabit in the nervous system has
momentum, all right.
So it's in motion.
It's an object in motion withmomentum.
So the only way you're going tochange that situation is to
come with an object of equal oropposite force.
Meditation is one of thosethings, ancestral clearing is
one of those things, yoga is oneof those things, right, et
(17:53):
cetera.
So but you have to kind ofunderstand what's happening and
all those practices.
They work on the present moment.
And so I have an old hand.
Why am I still working on thisfreaking habit?
Because I built it over like 60years.
Am I still working on thisfreaking habit?
(18:14):
Because I built it over like 60years.
So every time that I am in asituation where I'm starting to
feel activated in a dysregulatedway I've had enough practice.
Now I drop into the breath, Iput some space between the words
.
Where are my feet?
All the things, right?
What am I doing?
I'm shifting my attention tothe new way of living instead of
(18:37):
dropping into the old one,right?
Because that thing, that oldstress habit, actually is a
default and I'm learning and I'mbuilding a new default.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
What Elizabeth is describing right now is she's
essentially rewiring her brainExactly.
So I've done some reading onthis.
I discovered meditation I thinkI told you when we had our
intro call so I had discoveredmeditation about four years ago,
roughly, maybe three years ago.
I had hit like a, I guess,crossroads in my life where I I
(19:13):
was like burned out.
I, I was just totally burnedout.
You know, my, my kids were born2016 and 2017, so I had three
infants at the same time andwhile that was happening, I
still was like, oh no, I, I'mstill gonna have my career, I
can do it all.
And I was only sleep for aboutfour years, I was only sleeping
two hours a day and I wasworking like these crazy hours
(19:34):
Cause, you know, once you havekids and you want to be a
professional, you're like, oh no, I need to make up for the fact
that I had children.
So you work extra, you know,and I went through this four
year period of like justcompletely depleting my body of
pretty much any kind of anything.
So much so that I kept saying tomy cousin I was like I feel
like something bad is going tohappen because I am just not
(19:57):
taking care of myself and it'sjust running me ragged.
And so we get to the house thatwe live in right now.
We bought it in November 2021.
Spring 2022 was when I hit thiswall and I was like I have to
make a change here.
I can't keep doing this.
Something needs to give.
Um, yeah, between 2021 and 2022, I stumbled upon meditation.
(20:20):
Actually, while I wasresearching how to podcast
because I didn't know what to do, I stumbled upon this woman who
had the successful podcast this.
This is synchronicity at itsfinest, by the way, elizabeth,
that's why I like to hear that.
I was looking like, oh, how doyou podcast, how do I do this?
And when I did that, I foundthis woman's podcast and she had
an episode that was like had apodcast, but then she also had
(20:42):
all these work online courses.
I took one of her courses thatincluded podcasting, but it was
so much more and it was, youknow, tapping and meditation and
breath work and really learningthe science behind aligning
your energy with the universeand what's really there.
(21:02):
And it was like this massiveawakening of my spirit.
That has been.
That was like shrouded for 37years and I finally was able to
uncover her and it was this.
It was like this gloriousrebirth and in that meditation,
(21:25):
one of the practices that I didthat it was very interesting
because it goes back to theweight that I felt like on my
spirit, and one of the practiceswas you know, you go into this,
you go into meditation and youget yourself into the present
moment and you focus on yourname.
So you say your full name.
So I would say, like I am JennyBenitez and you would focus on
(21:47):
that for a little bit.
How does that make you feel?
What do you feel when you sayyour full name like that, and it
felt loaded, it felt heavy,Like it felt.
I felt the weight of my entireworld, which really is real on
my shoulders, cause that's, thatis true.
Like I, and you said it earlier,like I do it all, I do do it
all, I carry a lot.
And then the second part in themeditation was just to say well
(22:07):
, I am Jenny.
The first time I did it I waslike I was sobbing, because the
differentiation between thisweight that I was carrying and
me just like in the nestingdolls, little Jenny in the
nesting doll, that was just mewas like this free spirit that
had been crushed and she wasjust desperately trying to claw
(22:30):
her way out and it took.
I mean that uncovered.
I mean, that was like a fullyear of me, like scraping off
all the walls and the brick thatI had put up, and it was the
craziest thing and it wasrewiring my brain and I noticed
it was very interesting becauseit didn't just affect me like
(22:51):
while I was going through thisum, it affected my husband
positively.
It affected my kids positively.
Of course, it impacted ourmarriage positively.
like it, it did all of thesethings and I've talked a lot
about on the podcast, about yourenergy and aligning it in the
right way.
And you know there's also likewhen you're with people, you'll
(23:13):
notice, like there's people thatyou, if you go and visit people
and then you leave, you'regonna feel drained.
It's because the weight of whatthey're carrying affects you
while you're with them and itdraws from your energy.
Yeah, we have to be consciousyou have to be aware and so,
like the biggest thing that Ialways say on the podcast and
I've said to other people, likeyour feelings are really a
(23:35):
barometer, Like that's reallyyou if you feel uncomfortable or
you feel something's not quiteright, or I can kind of sense
that this person they're smilingin my face and they're saying
hello and they're hugging me,but I get like they're hugging
me, but I get like a feeling.
Yeah, I get like a feeling andthat's when you know like, oh,
this person, like their energyis not quite right.
maybe I don't want to spendenough time with them and once
(23:57):
you start like scraping thesethings off, like you're going
through it right now, as you'resaying, like you're rewiring
your brain.
It's like creating a whole.
It's getting yourself back toyou.
It's not creating a person,you're already in there, but
it's just a matter of likecleaning everything out.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Yeah, I love that you did that exercise.
I did something similar to thatbecause I learned once I like I
felt the way to the family, andthen I learned about the family
, oh my God, and it became this.
It became this.
I don't know this thing that Icarried and yeah, a lot of rocks
in it and I sat one summer Ithink it was the summer of 2019,
(24:32):
so close to when you were doingyour thing.
I sat there and I sat with thisquestion in my meditation who
would I be without the story ofmy family?
That was a very powerfulquestion, yeah.
So the answer was I don't know,but I'd like to find out.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
It's kind of like that.
It's really interesting becauseit's like you go through your
whole life and a lot of peopleare going through their whole
lives on autopilot and justdoing what they should do and
not realizing that there's thiswhole other plane that is trying
to tell you something andyou're not listening well, it's
like I, when I, when you'retalking about that, I break it
(25:14):
down as simply as possible forme, because I just do better.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Then I mean I can do complicated, but it doesn't
usually serve me.
So am I feeling contracted orexpanded in this conversation or
around this person or in thisgroup or whatever?
And that is a great barometer.
The other thing I want to saythat I just want to like
underline what you said, becauseit's so important and it's kind
(25:38):
of the principle of ancestralclearing why it works in the
first place.
Think about, like the 3D world,the Newtonian kind of physics,
where you take a bag of marblesand you throw them on the floor
and they'll scatter and they'llcome to a halt and they'll just
sit there and then you push oneof them and all the other ones
stay still.
Yeah, Just that one moves Inthe quantum world.
(26:00):
When you push one marble, theyall move in relationship to that
.
So when you're doing that work,this is our world.
We're all marbles in thequantum field, moving in
relationship to each other.
I kind of made it a little bitcomplicated there, but that's
what's happening, why your wholefamily is affected.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Yeah, you know, and I was worried at first because I
remember thinking to myself, man, I'm doing all this work to try
to clear myself.
And you know, at the time, likemy husband was still how he
always was, like very you knownot, I don't want to say he was
very negative, but he, hecarried a lot of weight, like he
had a lot of weight andmajority of what he said it was
(26:42):
kind of veered towards thenegative.
And I used to say to myself,like my God, like I'm trying so
hard to to fix me, and like whatif, like he, he pulls me, pulls
me?
Like what if he pulls me in thewrong direction?
And the opposite started tohappen and we started to go like
together on up.
So it was, it was a I was veryhappy to see that and even, like
(27:03):
you know, my, my kids.
They will reiterate some of someof the things that I say to
them where I'm like you know ofcourse they do this, you know,
like I mean, yeah, they repeateverything basically, but you
know, I I like to be able tolike lead by example.
One thing I wanted to sharewith you too and the listeners
in the same line of energy.
I haven't done a lot ofresearch into chakras yet, but I
(27:25):
have been like kind of touchingon it.
Yeah, I've been kind oftouching, and one of the ones,
one of the things that thethroat chakra is very important
to me, as you obviously said, ismy voice.
It's very important to me.
And so two and a half years agoor so, I was working at this
other job.
I have a different job now andyou know, in my industry you
(27:46):
have to interview a bunch oftimes and go through this whole
big thing.
So I get this role at thisagency and within a couple of
weeks, randomly, I lost my voice, like physically lost.
It Never had happened to mebefore.
It's gone for a week I couldn'tspeak.
I'm like that's odd, but at thetime I'm like that's odd.
(28:07):
I didn't think anything else ofit, just besides, that's odd
While I was at that particularagency, which ended up being a
very bad place for me to work.
In a nutshell, um, while I wasthere, I lost my voice four
times, flat out, just lost it,and I remember once I hit that
fourth.
It was between the third andfourth time was when I had
(28:29):
started to figure out meditatingand everything, and that's when
I started realizing I was like,oh, oh, my God.
I was like I think I think I'mphysically losing my voice
because the energy is so bad andI work virtually, so you can
imagine if I was working inperson how bad it would have
been.
The energy was so bad that itquite literally stole my voice
(28:53):
the energy was so bad that itquite literally stole my voice.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Well, I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't.
I'm going to push back on thatbecause I wouldn't give my power
away like that I would.
I would say that that it'sreacting in such a way that it's
giving you some information,and what you do with that
information is is is well, it'sjust a different perspective.
I'm not saying you're wrong,I'm just saying like, yeah, I'd
(29:16):
look at it a little bitdifferently.
It's information, and what am Igoing to do with this
information?
And you kept getting themessage again and again.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Okay, that perspective.
Thank you for doing that,elizabeth.
That perspective sounds muchmore right for what the
situation was, because it wasalmost like and now that you've
said it, it was basically like asignal saying like, look, look
at how you're reacting here.
Like, look at what this is,like a warning shot to tell you.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Now that this is the thing that you're talking about,
we're both talking about is theconsciousness to see how we're
reacting right.
We're not calling it bad orgood or or right or wrong.
We're just saying, oh, I'mdoing this thing, you know.
Is this, you know again, isthis am I contracting or am I
expanding in this experience?
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Thank you, I appreciate that.
Thank you for saying that.
You're right, it's really andyou know that's.
One other thing I want to touchon too here is that not many
people are paying attention inthat way or really listening.
I think there's been signals andsigns my entire life for things
that I missed and now, when Ithink back on stuff, I'm like,
oh my God, this makes more sensenow because this happened and
(30:28):
this all fell this way intoplace.
It's once you start to tap intothis, it's very interesting
because there's so much thereand then it makes so much more
sense for the lives that we'reliving now.
And you know, elizabeth, onething that I worry about not
worried, but something that alsocrossed my mind quite a bit now
, especially now in today'sworld, there's so much noise
(30:50):
because I know, man, oh my god,it's, I don't.
I'm not the podcast I have onsocial, for obvious reasons,
like I have to put it outsomewhere.
But like me personally, I'm notengaged like that, like I.
Actually I work on a computerall day, so as soon as I can not
look at a screen, I don't lookat screens.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
And.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
I see my kids and my husband, everybody constantly,
constantly with and the noisepollution and I think it's
further disconnecting our wholesociety from how we're supposed
to be.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Well, there's, there's that.
There's that aspect of it Ahundred percent.
We have to be very discerningabout all that we're bringing
into our field food, water,media, all everything we're
consuming.
We really want to try and beconscious.
The other thing I had to sayabout the digital world Johan
(31:45):
Hari wrote a book fairlyrecently called Stolen Focus and
how to Think Deeply Again, andit's very interesting because he
talked about a phenomenon.
It's a lot of science in it.
He studied, talked to a bunchof scientists that worked on
focus and stuff.
One of the things that hetalked about that really
(32:05):
impressed me was this phenomenonof switching.
So you're switching from youand I are having a conversation
right now.
But if I had a notification onmy phone and stopped and went
and did that and then I cameback to you, that's really hard
on the brain Because now I haveto expend energy coming back to
where I was to begin with andit's not only inefficient, it's
(32:29):
actually really hard on thebrain, right.
Efficient.
It's actually really hard onthe brain, right.
So, really to like, yes,digital world, but your instinct
of like getting off the screenas soon as possible, right on,
and we want to really, really,really, you know, drop the
notifications unless they'reabsolutely crucial, because it's
(32:50):
just ding, ding, ding and thebind is being and now, now we're
actually like, well, we'readding stress into the brain,
right, and now we can't thinkstraight and we've got it.
It affects the emotions and andwe get more negative and all
the things.
So that's a that's an importantpoint.
So we have to be discerning andwe have to kind of understand
how does this brain actuallyoperate relative to what's
(33:13):
happening in the world, like howwe're responding, right.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
You know, what I thought was very interesting
when I was learning aboutrewiring my brain was that when
you're going through thatpractice of like trying to
change how you're responding tostuff, obviously it takes
repetition right and for a lotof people what ends up happening
is because they make that firstleap, it takes repetition right
and for a lot of people whatends up happening is because
they make that first leap and itfeels uncomfortable.
(33:38):
They stop in their head.
They're like, oh well, it feelsuncomfortable, it must not be
right.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
That's an error Because it's in the manual.
Yeah, because because remember,momentum, right, habit,
momentum, and we are trying tochange the trajectory.
So we've got networks in thebrain that are running.
The more we access them, thefaster and quicker that they
(34:07):
wire, they fire, and when we tryand change the brain it gets
uncomfortable because the brainis actually doing work.
So when my meditation teachersaid to me you know, we took us
through Adi Kundalini Yoga.
We do these crazy meditations.
They're amazing, but they'rejust.
They can be kind of intense,and he says you're gonna feel
(34:30):
resistance and that's when youknow it's working.
So you're gonna feel resistanceand that's when you know it's
working.
So you're going to feelresistance and that's when the
brain's starting to change.
So hang in there, because youget on the other side of that.
But the resistance is the signthat it's working.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
It's interesting because I get resistance.
I still get it Like I getresistance and I get fear, like
quite a bit.
And one of the things that hashappened to me, especially with
the podcast because this is, youknow, my husband has said to me
he's like, wow, you really likeyou talk about a lot of stuff
on there and I'm like he's likeyou just put it all out there.
A lot of people have said to me, like women have said to me,
(35:05):
like I, I don't know how you'recomfortable doing that and I'm
like I don't know, like I itfeels, it feels so good that I'm
like I can't not do it.
So one of the things thathappens quite a bit with the
podcast is I'll want to stop.
It happens a lot and I want tosay at least two or three times
(35:27):
a year I'll get this almost likea dip is how I refer to it
where I like you know I, I don'tknow if I should still do this,
and a lot of it also will belike imposter syndrome kind of
situation where I'm like I thinkI said it's I don't know if I
said it's you or somebody elsewhat are you doing?
Like who?
Who are you to be bringingguests?
Speaker 2 (35:44):
exactly with you.
Like who the?
Speaker 1 (35:45):
hell are you like?
You're just Jenny from NewJersey, like what the hell you
think you're doing here, and I,like, will have these really
beat up sessions in my head.
And earlier this year I had asituation like that where I was
like I was burned out.
We were really busy at my, mydaytime job and I had enrolled
the kids in way too manyactivities.
So it's totally sensory sensoryoverload for me.
And then you know I have thepodcast and I want to do the
(36:07):
podcast.
I love the podcast, but in that, in that moment, with
everything else going on, in inthis dip of like Jenny, what are
you even doing?
Like, just stop.
You're not like Joe Rogan,you're not like this big
podcaster, You're just thislittle nobody.
It's very interesting,elizabeth.
Every single time somethinglike that happens to me, within
(36:27):
a week or two there will be asign that just happens, that
says you have to keep going.
And when it happened to me thisyear listen to this.
When it happened to me thisyear.
Every time I come very closeand I'm like maybe I'll just do
a farewell episode, just call ita day Like you did what you
could, jenny, kind of thing.
This season, when that happenedto me in the month the month
(36:54):
that it happened it was in JuneJuly ended up being the highest
downloaded month for the podcast.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
I was gonna say you probably got a whole bunch of
downloads.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
It was the craziest thing I've ever seen.
It was double my normal amount.
It doubled.
And I was like, oh my god.
And then this month I gotnotified you know, podcasts are
all ranked and stuff like thatand I got notified that I made
the top 200 list in Peru.
And I'm like, oh, that's cool,what the hell?
(37:22):
I'm like this is really coolBecause and the reason why and,
listeners, the reason why I'mbringing this up is because you
will have moments like this,like in your life, there is
going to be moments where, like,I'm going to throw this all
away, the podcast, like it'ssomething I love so dearly and
deeply.
But I still will have thesemoments of like fear and you
know, and you know impostersyndrome and all these things
that I'm trying to rework mybrain to understand.
(37:44):
Like, oh, jenny, like this isit?
Like this is good, this is inalignment with what you're
supposed to be doing.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Would you like to?
We have time for me to do anancestor clearing for everyone.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
That'll have.
Maybe it might help clear someof the frequency of that in you
and whatever else.
The imposter syndrome is ispretty common, so it might help.
The this is a actually anancestor.
Clearing is a trademarkregistered process that was
taught and developed by johnnewton.
It was pioneered by how Willsand it's really a prayer process
.
So we call on higher powerwhatever you call that, we'll
(38:20):
call it creator.
Today we're calling on it tohelp us release that which no
longer serves us.
We're not asking it to takeanything away, we're asking it
to help us release, and so we doit with humility and gratitude.
So we do the please and thankyou.
So we'll just if you everybodyjust listening just notice what
(38:41):
you're feeling, a sensation inthe body, and maybe give it a
number of intensity, from zeroto 10, and you've got a number
and then just breathe normallyand let these words pass over
you.
Oh, divine spirit, creator ofall, that is all that you are.
Thank you for the manybountiful blessings you bestowed
upon us and our lineages.
We come to you knowing you'realways here with us and all your
(39:03):
great and vast nature.
We ask humbly and gratefullyfor us and all our relationships
and all of our ancestors andall their relationships
throughout all space, time,dimension, realms, lifetimes and
incarnations, for all inheritedenergies passed down to us that
were residue of wounds wedidn't create but were born into
, for all the stories we createdbecause of them, for all the
(39:25):
misunderstanding, blame andsuffering that ensued in the
lineage as a result.
Please help us all to forgiveone another and forgive
ourselves, please, and thank youFor all the times many of us
were abandoned, neglected orotherwise betrayed by parents,
caregivers, partners of thecommunity in love and friendship
or leadership across the familyline, for the letdown we felt
(39:49):
and all the deep mistrust oflife and love that followed, for
not feeling safe to receivesupport and for any fears of
being abandoned if we turnedinto joy, visibility or our
truth.
Please help us all to forgiveand release one another and
forgive everyone involveddirectly or indirectly, for all
of it, please, and thank you forall addiction, escapism
(40:11):
patterns any of us fell into,whether alcoholism, drug abuse,
emotional eating, gambling,control, achievement
codependency or any otherpattern that kept us from
looking within ourselves for theanswer to our wholeness, for
the legacy of numbing our painas a survival strategy and how
it kept us from living lifefully and allowing ourselves to
(40:31):
feel you creator flowing throughus, and for all the limiting
beliefs, judgments andconclusions we had or made that
kept us playing small, not ableto reach our full potential in
life.
Please help us all to forgiveone another and forgive
ourselves, please, and thank youFor all the experiences we have
in justice, persecution,systematic oppression or other
(40:54):
portrayals of authority figures,teachers, coaches, doctors and
nurses, lawyers and judges,spiritual leaders and anyone
else we look to for leadership.
For the times we felt anger andprofound letdown at you,
creator, and for how thatweighed on us and our lives, and
for any spiritual grief we feltthat made trust and surrender
seem impossible.
(41:15):
Please help us all to forgiveone another and forgive
ourselves, please, and thank youFor all survivors' guilt, for
any shame we carried whileothers in the family or the
community suffered.
For any inherited guilt frompast hurts or harms done, and
for any time we were unable tostop harm from happening.
Please help us all to forgiveone another and forgive
(41:35):
ourselves, please, and thank youFor all sexual hurts and wrongs
and any time they wereminimized or went unspoken.
For all secrets within thefamily and how, in such darkness
, those secrets festered intowounds, for any shame carried in
the family around our innateanimal nature, and for any
confusion or conflict about anyof our relationships to
(41:56):
sensuality, boundaries orexpression.
Please help us all to forgiveone another and forgive
ourselves, please, and thank youFor all conflicting DNA, any
energetic tug-of-war in thelineage opposing values,
unresolved family feuds orvendettas or mixed ancestral
allegiances, for any negativeresidue left from the genetic
(42:16):
inference of both the oppressedand the oppressor, and for any
felt sense of identity,confusion or not knowing where
we belong.
Please help us all to forgiveone another and forgive
ourselves, please, and thank youfor how any of these wounds
kept us playing small in life,for any fear of being seen or
heard or stepping into aposition of leadership, for the
(42:37):
times we felt we had to sufferin order to earn love or even
have a sense of belonging.
For any time we fell prey tosubconscious sabotage around
success, intimacy or abundance,for any cycle of perfectionism
or any imbalance between givingand receiving.
Please help us all to forgiveone another and forgive
ourselves receiving.
(42:58):
Please help us all to forgiveone another and forgive
ourselves, please, and thank you.
Please help us step into ourpower and find freedom from the
burdens of this lineage.
Please help us to release thesepatterns and turn back to
realizing our inherent wholeness.
That can never be diminished.
And please help us to reclaimthat space within us where our
true nature was, is and alwayswill be.
Please and thank you, pleaseand thank you, please and thank
(43:20):
you.
Now take a nice big breath inand let it out and notice how
that feels in the body.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
My neck started cracking while you were talking.
Oh my gosh, that was so nice.
Oh my gosh.
I don't know if anybodyactually closed their eyes or
not, but I did.
I loved it.
That was like it feels that youcan.
I can feel it yeah, it'spowerful work.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
Yeah, it blew me away .
The first time I experienced itI was like my science hat was
on.
I was like what's happening inthis room?
I know something's happening.
What is it?
Can I measure it?
Can you repeat it?
Speaker 1 (43:52):
you kind of can't, you can't know, like that.
That's the part that's wild islike people don't really realize
.
Listeners, I'm gonna pull up.
I want to pull up some of umelizabeth's website.
So in even that, you'reinterested, you want to look a
little bit more into workingwith elizabeth.
I have her um website linkedhere.
The way through chronic pain.
This is all intertwined likeit's all intertwined, so it's
(44:14):
super important to justunderstand.
Like you you know, it's notlike the right hand and left
hand are working separately,they're working together on this
one.
Like you have to cut, you haveto do both.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
It's not just one or the other.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
It's really.
You have to just be aware andstart working on your energies.
And then I also have a link foryour book here as well.
The other one was your book.
This is your website, so I havethe website up now.
The other link was the book.
Check out the website.
You'll be able to look throughthe blogs, like resources, on
here, and I'm going to linkeverything into the episode
(44:47):
description as well so you cancheck out.
Elizabeth.
Thank you for joining me today.
This has been like super fun.
Thank you for that.
Oh my gosh, such a beautifulday I've been having and that
was like the cherry on the cakeBeautiful.
Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Well, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
Listeners, you can catch this episode also via your
favorite podcast streamingplatform.
Thank you for joining me todayand I will catch you on the next
one, take care.
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