July 10, 2025 • 12 mins
The endless cycle of wanting more—better cars, bigger houses, luxury vacations—has become our society's default setting. But what if we're chasing a future that promises exactly what we already have in the present?
Through the powerful parable of a content Mexican fisherman and an ambitious investment banker, this episode challenges our assumptions about success and fulfillment. The fisherman, already living the simple life of family time and doing what he loves, is presented with a 15-year plan to build a fishing empire. The punchline? After all that work, he could finally retire to enjoy fishing and spending time with family—exactly what he already had from the beginning.
This story resonates deeply because so many of us sacrifice present joy for future promises. As we explore the concept that "less is more," we discover that our presence—not our presents—creates the most meaningful impact in our loved ones' lives. Rather than hustling toward some distant goal, what if we recognized the value in what we already possess?
The episode takes a powerful turn toward kindness and perspective as we discuss the practice of paying it forward. Those small moments when we ease someone else's burden—even briefly—create ripples of positivity that return tenfold. When we later reflect on the devastating Texas floods, we're reminded how quickly life's everyday frustrations fade in comparison to genuine tragedy, offering a sobering perspective on what truly matters.
Ready to shift your perspective from scarcity to abundance? Listen now and discover how acknowledging what you already have might be the greatest wealth of all. What small joy in your life deserves more appreciation today?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello everybody, this is Silver Roses Podcast.
This podcast is created forwomen, by women, to elevate
women's voices.
I wanted to just take a momentto talk about something I saw on
Pinterest actually, which youguys hear me refer to that a lot
, because I don't really look atsocial media.
I know, I know I'm behind thetimes, but I don't care.
I don't care because I justdon't need it in my life.
(00:21):
But anyway, I saw this reallycool post that I actually wanted
to bring to everyone'sattention.
So we live very much in a worldof driven by like marketing I'll
put it that way and marketingand the media have created this
basic.
Basically, they've created thispretend situation where we all
need to be cultivating thisgrand picturesque you know
millions of dollars likelifestyle and that you need to
be cultivating this grandpicturesque.
(00:43):
You know millions of dollarslike lifestyle and that you need
to be driving the porsche, youneed to have the boat, you need
to have the mansion, you need tohave the cars, you need to go
on the vacations, you need topost that all online so that
everybody sees you.
You need to do all of thesethings.
You need to do it.
You have to do it.
If you don't do this and you'renot doing anything with
yourself, what are you evendoing?
Like you know what?
What are you doing with yourtime?
(01:05):
What are you doing with that?
You know, junkie job, or isyour job junkie?
You know, like there's thispressure, this ultimate pressure
for everybody to be gettingmore and more and more and more.
And this post struck me becausethe end goal, the end teaching,
is less is actually more.
So I want to tell you the storythat's in the post and then I'm
gonna relate it to even myselfhere.
(01:26):
So the story goes that there'sthis fisherman, there's a
mexican fisherman at a pier, andso he's sitting on the pier,
he's gathering his nets up orwhatever, and this investment
banker comes along and he saysto him oh, you know, like how
many fish do you catch a day?
And the fisherman says I catchabout 10 fish a day.
He was like well, what else doyou do with your time, you know,
besides fishing?
Because now the investmentbanker is like well, how could
you spend your time fishing andonly be catching 10 fish a day?
(01:47):
He says, well, you know, I hangout with my wife, I hang out
with my kid.
He does whatever activities isinterested in.
I sleep in a little bit, um,you know, and then I do my
fishing.
The investment banker says tohim well, you know, you could,
um, you can take that extrasmall extra time that you have
for yourself and catch a fewextra fish.
And he was like and then youcan, you know, actually put that
to bring you in more money.
And the fisherman was like, oh,you know, that sounds really
(02:08):
good.
And then the investment bankersays you spend x amount of time
fishing and you save up x amountof dollars.
Then you can move from doing ityourself to hiring somebody to
help you out, and then you cankind of remove yourself from the
situation.
You start to expand and buildup an empire and then, once you
have enough people under yourwing in mexico, you could
actually take and move thisoperation, really, you know,
(02:29):
operationalize it and pull it up.
So you have this base in mexico, but you also have other areas
that you have fishermen.
You pull yourself out of thescenario entirely, entirely,
where you're not fishing at allanymore and you're able to
cultivate this entireorganization that is producing
millions of dollars for you,based off of the fact that you
(02:49):
have this expertise in fishingand you've taught these other
people how to do it, you'vehired these other people to do
it and you're basically runningthe entire thing.
And the fisherman guy's like, ohmy god, that sounds you know
that that sounds great.
Like, how would I do this?
How long would it take?
And the fisherman and theinvestment banker is saying, oh,
you know, it'd take you about15 years 10 to 15 years, maybe
more, to really get everythingup and running, doesn't that?
And then the fisherman says tohim okay, well, what would I do?
(03:11):
Like, you know, it'd be nice tohave money.
But like, what would the endgoal be here?
What would happen?
Said, well, after 15, 20 years,once you're all settled and
you've worked this hard andyou're able to, you have this
empire now.
Um, you'd probably end up, youknow, you'd go back to Mexico
and you'd be able to relax andlive a simpler life and you know
fish and spend time with yourfamily and, you know, do your
(03:32):
hobbies that you like to do.
In the little video clip, theperson who's hearing the story
is like, yeah, but isn't thatexactly what the fisherman has
right now?
And the person telling thestory key takeaway is Well, yes,
the fisherman already haseverything that the end goal is.
That is, the end goal is to beable to spend time with your
family, spend time doing thingsyou love and then just having
something to sustain yourself.
(03:53):
Now, granted, in the empirestory, they build up a whole
organization.
It could be a legacy you'repassing down to your children.
I could see the benefit there,obviously, but those 20 years or
so that you spent building thatempire, you weren't with your
family.
You were focusing on thatempire, and herein lies the
problem, and this is somethingthat I had myself, and I think
my son-in-law probably struggleswith this a bit because he's a
(04:14):
hard worker as well.
We want so much for ourfamilies.
We do want to have a legacy.
Right like who wouldn't want toleave a whole?
The beauty of being able toleave a legacy to your children,
to be able to say, like I builtthis and I'm handing this to
you for you to not take care ofthis and it'll go on for
generations, that's an amazinggift.
But, based on the things thatI've experienced, your presence
is also the most amazing giftyou can give.
(04:36):
My husband will always say tome he's always said to me I'm
not a rich man, but I'm going toshow up and I'm going to give
you all I have.
He's probably one of the mostfantastic human beings that I
know.
If he knew I was talking abouthim like this, by the way, he'd
be like, ah, he'd be like, ah,stop it.
And he would tease me forgetting emotional about him.
(04:57):
But it's true, I really don'tneed the glitz and the glamour
and the riches.
Are they nice?
Absolutely.
I think I just talked about iton a prior episode that you know
we were able my family and Iwere able to afford to go on
this really beautiful vacationrecently.
I was proud to be able toprovide that and it's a
beautiful memory.
(05:18):
But had we not gone, we stillwould have had memories, it just
wouldn't have been in thecaribbean.
You know like there's things toappreciate here and, and I could
guarantee you, no matter howdire your situation is in this
current moment, there must besomething.
And if there isn't somethingthat is giving you some light or
some linger of hope, what canyou do to help create that
(05:39):
something?
What is it that you cancultivate and just hold on to in
your life currently?
That's positive.
It does not have to be aphysical thing.
It could be a thought, it couldbe something, some place that
you go and that's your spot thatyou go to.
It really could be anything.
It could be a memory thatbrings you joy every time you
think of it and in that momentof remembering, your body is
(06:00):
getting that energy of joy andyou're getting that vibrational
energy of joy.
That energy that you willcreate within yourself is the
most important thing that youcan have.
Everything else can fall to thewayside and I sincerely mean
this and this is why I talk somuch about meditating, I talk so
much about all these otherthings.
We've been brainwashed to thinkthat we have to hustle and
(06:21):
there's this whole hustleculture and you have to have
four or five odd jobs and sideflows and that's not.
Yes, all those things great.
I'm not saying I don't want anyof that.
I research businesses all thetime and how to launch different
, various businesses.
This is who I am.
I like looking at stuff likethat for the next opportunity.
But, on that same note, I amfiercely protective of the time
that I have with my family andmy husband.
(06:42):
I am fiercely protective ofthat Because, at the end of the
day, the rest of this doesn'tmatter.
They matter the most, and beingable to have the privilege to
spend time with them and beingable to have the privilege to
worry about them is it's ablessing.
It's truly, truly a blessing tobe able to even have that in my
life and in your lives.
To have somebody to worry aboutmeans you have someone that you
(07:03):
love.
Like how pure is that?
How pure is it to just say thatwhen you worry for someone it's
because you love them and thatenergy there, that love that you
feel for that person, removethe worrying element out of it
and turn it into positivevibrational energy.
I worry about my family members.
Well, you know what I do withthat worry.
I actually visualize the bestpossible outcomes for them.
(07:25):
That's what I do.
They don't even know I do thisactually now that I think about
it, but I do it all the time.
I visualize scenarios that I'mable to actually help my family
members that I think might needa little boost here and there.
To be able to have that honorto do something to make a
difference in someone's life,that is really the biggest thing
.
That would be.
(07:46):
The biggest gift you could giveis to ease someone else's
burden, even if it's just for abrief, a brief, mere period of
time.
What a tremendous gift to beable to give that to somebody.
I fantasize about that all thetime, even randomly, at
strangers, or even like when I'ma shop writer at the grocery
store.
I'm actually always on thelookout for people who might
might a little help.
(08:07):
I mean, who hasn't been at thecheckout line at a grocery store
and been worried do I haveenough in my account to cover
all the groceries in my basket?
Now, now I don't have thatissue, but it doesn't mean that
groceries aren't hella expensive.
I was actually just talkingabout it with my cousin and sent
her a picture of about $200worth of groceries that I came
(08:28):
home with and it was abysmal.
And I'm not even buying goodstuff Like I'm buying some of
the healthier things, but it'snot like I'm getting organic
meat, organic fruit and all thatLike if I did, I probably
wouldn't be able to affordanything Like.
And so I always have an eye outfor people who you know might
be in a situation where, like ifthey don't have enough, I'm
always ready to be there to saylike, hey, I would do it, I
(08:58):
would help anybody in aheartbeat like that, I don't
care about being repaid, justbeing able to do the good deed.
That's huge.
That's huge.
Paying it forward is a big deal.
If you have the opportunity topay it forward, even if it's in
a small way to brighten someoneelse's path, you need to do it.
You have to do it Because thelight that it will provide you
is immeasurable.
It really is.
Think, think about it, and Iwant you to keep an eye out for
(09:22):
opportunities that you can dothis for somebody else, that you
can pay it forward for someoneelse, and it'll come back to you
.
Ten times.
It really will.
There's no other way to saythat.
It just comes back around.
So I hope it gives you allsomething to think about, but
always be on the lookout forthat.
Even if it's a small act ofkindness, just something to help
someone else, it goes a longway for you and for them.
I do want to take a moment onthis episode, just taking a
(09:44):
minute to drink some waterbefore I talk here, because I'm
already in an emotional wreckthis week, so chances are I may
burst into tears again, so letme just take a beat here.
But I just want to take amoment to uh, to acknowledge the
people in texas that havesuffered these tremendous losses
(10:05):
because of the floods.
I've been following the storysince it unfolded and it's
heart-wrenching and seems sosenseless and I can't imagine
what these families are goingthrough, of these young kids.
I saw a uh a post on instagramwhich podcast has that I felt
compelled to comment on becauseI was stressed out as usual over
(10:29):
the weekend not as usual, but Iwas stressed out because my
kids' first day of summer campwas on Monday of this week.
Now we're in New Jersey, soit's not, you know, I'm far from
danger or anything like that.
My point is that I was stressedout about this.
I'm stressed out about droppingthem off because it conflicts
with my meetings for my job, andI was stressed out about
(10:50):
picking them up and you know I'mgoing to miss, I'm gonna have
to work late.
How am I gonna juggle this?
And you know I'm stressed outabout all this stuff and then
the flood happened and it seemsso stupid to be stressed about
juggling my work with my kids.
At least I still have my kidsto worry about, because not
because at least I still havethem to worry there's these
families out here that have lostyoung people and it's just
(11:15):
heart-wrenching.
As you can tell, it's hard forme to talk about.
I'm sure a lot of us feel thisway and aren't acknowledging it,
so I wanted to take a momentand do my best to acknowledge it
without completely breakingdown with all of you.
But I just wanted to take amoment here and just acknowledge
the situation and what theamount of lives that it has
(11:37):
destroyed, the amount of livesthat this tragedy has touched,
and I do hope that the survivorsand the people like myself who
are removed from the situation,that we are seeing this as an
opportunity to appreciate morewhat we have and the people in
our lives today.
Thank you for being with metoday.
I appreciate all of you and Iwill catch you on the next one,
(12:00):
take care.
Hello everybody, this is Silver Roses Podcast.
This podcast is created forwomen, by women, to elevate
women's voices.
I wanted to just take a momentto talk about something I saw on
Pinterest actually, which youguys hear me refer to that a lot
, because I don't really look atsocial media.
I know, I know I'm behind thetimes, but I don't care.
I don't care because I justdon't need it in my life.
(00:21):
But anyway, I saw this reallycool post that I actually wanted
to bring to everyone'sattention.
So we live very much in a worldof driven by like marketing I'll
put it that way and marketingand the media have created this
basic.
Basically, they've created thispretend situation where we all
need to be cultivating thisgrand picturesque you know
millions of dollars likelifestyle and that you need to
be cultivating this grandpicturesque.
(00:43):
You know millions of dollarslike lifestyle and that you need
to be driving the porsche, youneed to have the boat, you need
to have the mansion, you need tohave the cars, you need to go
on the vacations, you need topost that all online so that
everybody sees you.
You need to do all of thesethings.
You need to do it.
You have to do it.
If you don't do this and you'renot doing anything with
yourself, what are you evendoing?
Like you know what?
What are you doing with yourtime?
(01:05):
What are you doing with that?
You know, junkie job, or isyour job junkie?
You know, like there's thispressure, this ultimate pressure
for everybody to be gettingmore and more and more and more.
And this post struck me becausethe end goal, the end teaching,
is less is actually more.
So I want to tell you the storythat's in the post and then I'm
gonna relate it to even myselfhere.
(01:26):
So the story goes that there'sthis fisherman, there's a
mexican fisherman at a pier, andso he's sitting on the pier,
he's gathering his nets up orwhatever, and this investment
banker comes along and he saysto him oh, you know, like how
many fish do you catch a day?
And the fisherman says I catchabout 10 fish a day.
He was like well, what else doyou do with your time, you know,
besides fishing?
Because now the investmentbanker is like well, how could
you spend your time fishing andonly be catching 10 fish a day?
(01:47):
He says, well, you know, I hangout with my wife, I hang out
with my kid.
He does whatever activities isinterested in.
I sleep in a little bit, um,you know, and then I do my
fishing.
The investment banker says tohim well, you know, you could,
um, you can take that extrasmall extra time that you have
for yourself and catch a fewextra fish.
And he was like and then youcan, you know, actually put that
to bring you in more money.
And the fisherman was like, oh,you know, that sounds really
(02:08):
good.
And then the investment bankersays you spend x amount of time
fishing and you save up x amountof dollars.
Then you can move from doing ityourself to hiring somebody to
help you out, and then you cankind of remove yourself from the
situation.
You start to expand and buildup an empire and then, once you
have enough people under yourwing in mexico, you could
actually take and move thisoperation, really, you know,
(02:29):
operationalize it and pull it up.
So you have this base in mexico, but you also have other areas
that you have fishermen.
You pull yourself out of thescenario entirely, entirely,
where you're not fishing at allanymore and you're able to
cultivate this entireorganization that is producing
millions of dollars for you,based off of the fact that you
(02:49):
have this expertise in fishingand you've taught these other
people how to do it, you'vehired these other people to do
it and you're basically runningthe entire thing.
And the fisherman guy's like, ohmy god, that sounds you know
that that sounds great.
Like, how would I do this?
How long would it take?
And the fisherman and theinvestment banker is saying, oh,
you know, it'd take you about15 years 10 to 15 years, maybe
more, to really get everythingup and running, doesn't that?
And then the fisherman says tohim okay, well, what would I do?
(03:11):
Like, you know, it'd be nice tohave money.
But like, what would the endgoal be here?
What would happen?
Said, well, after 15, 20 years,once you're all settled and
you've worked this hard andyou're able to, you have this
empire now.
Um, you'd probably end up, youknow, you'd go back to Mexico
and you'd be able to relax andlive a simpler life and you know
fish and spend time with yourfamily and, you know, do your
(03:32):
hobbies that you like to do.
In the little video clip, theperson who's hearing the story
is like, yeah, but isn't thatexactly what the fisherman has
right now?
And the person telling thestory key takeaway is Well, yes,
the fisherman already haseverything that the end goal is.
That is, the end goal is to beable to spend time with your
family, spend time doing thingsyou love and then just having
something to sustain yourself.
(03:53):
Now, granted, in the empirestory, they build up a whole
organization.
It could be a legacy you'repassing down to your children.
I could see the benefit there,obviously, but those 20 years or
so that you spent building thatempire, you weren't with your
family.
You were focusing on thatempire, and herein lies the
problem, and this is somethingthat I had myself, and I think
my son-in-law probably struggleswith this a bit because he's a
(04:14):
hard worker as well.
We want so much for ourfamilies.
We do want to have a legacy.
Right like who wouldn't want toleave a whole?
The beauty of being able toleave a legacy to your children,
to be able to say, like I builtthis and I'm handing this to
you for you to not take care ofthis and it'll go on for
generations, that's an amazinggift.
But, based on the things thatI've experienced, your presence
is also the most amazing giftyou can give.
(04:36):
My husband will always say tome he's always said to me I'm
not a rich man, but I'm going toshow up and I'm going to give
you all I have.
He's probably one of the mostfantastic human beings that I
know.
If he knew I was talking abouthim like this, by the way, he'd
be like, ah, he'd be like, ah,stop it.
And he would tease me forgetting emotional about him.
(04:57):
But it's true, I really don'tneed the glitz and the glamour
and the riches.
Are they nice?
Absolutely.
I think I just talked about iton a prior episode that you know
we were able my family and Iwere able to afford to go on
this really beautiful vacationrecently.
I was proud to be able toprovide that and it's a
beautiful memory.
(05:18):
But had we not gone, we stillwould have had memories, it just
wouldn't have been in thecaribbean.
You know like there's things toappreciate here and, and I could
guarantee you, no matter howdire your situation is in this
current moment, there must besomething.
And if there isn't somethingthat is giving you some light or
some linger of hope, what canyou do to help create that
(05:39):
something?
What is it that you cancultivate and just hold on to in
your life currently?
That's positive.
It does not have to be aphysical thing.
It could be a thought, it couldbe something, some place that
you go and that's your spot thatyou go to.
It really could be anything.
It could be a memory thatbrings you joy every time you
think of it and in that momentof remembering, your body is
(06:00):
getting that energy of joy andyou're getting that vibrational
energy of joy.
That energy that you willcreate within yourself is the
most important thing that youcan have.
Everything else can fall to thewayside and I sincerely mean
this and this is why I talk somuch about meditating, I talk so
much about all these otherthings.
We've been brainwashed to thinkthat we have to hustle and
(06:21):
there's this whole hustleculture and you have to have
four or five odd jobs and sideflows and that's not.
Yes, all those things great.
I'm not saying I don't want anyof that.
I research businesses all thetime and how to launch different
, various businesses.
This is who I am.
I like looking at stuff likethat for the next opportunity.
But, on that same note, I amfiercely protective of the time
that I have with my family andmy husband.
(06:42):
I am fiercely protective ofthat Because, at the end of the
day, the rest of this doesn'tmatter.
They matter the most, and beingable to have the privilege to
spend time with them and beingable to have the privilege to
worry about them is it's ablessing.
It's truly, truly a blessing tobe able to even have that in my
life and in your lives.
To have somebody to worry aboutmeans you have someone that you
(07:03):
love.
Like how pure is that?
How pure is it to just say thatwhen you worry for someone it's
because you love them and thatenergy there, that love that you
feel for that person, removethe worrying element out of it
and turn it into positivevibrational energy.
I worry about my family members.
Well, you know what I do withthat worry.
I actually visualize the bestpossible outcomes for them.
(07:25):
That's what I do.
They don't even know I do thisactually now that I think about
it, but I do it all the time.
I visualize scenarios that I'mable to actually help my family
members that I think might needa little boost here and there.
To be able to have that honorto do something to make a
difference in someone's life,that is really the biggest thing
.
That would be.
(07:46):
The biggest gift you could giveis to ease someone else's
burden, even if it's just for abrief, a brief, mere period of
time.
What a tremendous gift to beable to give that to somebody.
I fantasize about that all thetime, even randomly, at
strangers, or even like when I'ma shop writer at the grocery
store.
I'm actually always on thelookout for people who might
might a little help.
(08:07):
I mean, who hasn't been at thecheckout line at a grocery store
and been worried do I haveenough in my account to cover
all the groceries in my basket?
Now, now I don't have thatissue, but it doesn't mean that
groceries aren't hella expensive.
I was actually just talkingabout it with my cousin and sent
her a picture of about $200worth of groceries that I came
(08:28):
home with and it was abysmal.
And I'm not even buying goodstuff Like I'm buying some of
the healthier things, but it'snot like I'm getting organic
meat, organic fruit and all thatLike if I did, I probably
wouldn't be able to affordanything Like.
And so I always have an eye outfor people who you know might
be in a situation where, like ifthey don't have enough, I'm
always ready to be there to saylike, hey, I would do it, I
(08:58):
would help anybody in aheartbeat like that, I don't
care about being repaid, justbeing able to do the good deed.
That's huge.
That's huge.
Paying it forward is a big deal.
If you have the opportunity topay it forward, even if it's in
a small way to brighten someoneelse's path, you need to do it.
You have to do it Because thelight that it will provide you
is immeasurable.
It really is.
Think, think about it, and Iwant you to keep an eye out for
(09:22):
opportunities that you can dothis for somebody else, that you
can pay it forward for someoneelse, and it'll come back to you
.
Ten times.
It really will.
There's no other way to saythat.
It just comes back around.
So I hope it gives you allsomething to think about, but
always be on the lookout forthat.
Even if it's a small act ofkindness, just something to help
someone else, it goes a longway for you and for them.
I do want to take a moment onthis episode, just taking a
(09:44):
minute to drink some waterbefore I talk here, because I'm
already in an emotional wreckthis week, so chances are I may
burst into tears again, so letme just take a beat here.
But I just want to take amoment to uh, to acknowledge the
people in texas that havesuffered these tremendous losses
(10:05):
because of the floods.
I've been following the storysince it unfolded and it's
heart-wrenching and seems sosenseless and I can't imagine
what these families are goingthrough, of these young kids.
I saw a uh a post on instagramwhich podcast has that I felt
compelled to comment on becauseI was stressed out as usual over
(10:29):
the weekend not as usual, but Iwas stressed out because my
kids' first day of summer campwas on Monday of this week.
Now we're in New Jersey, soit's not, you know, I'm far from
danger or anything like that.
My point is that I was stressedout about this.
I'm stressed out about droppingthem off because it conflicts
with my meetings for my job, andI was stressed out about
(10:50):
picking them up and you know I'mgoing to miss, I'm gonna have
to work late.
How am I gonna juggle this?
And you know I'm stressed outabout all this stuff and then
the flood happened and it seemsso stupid to be stressed about
juggling my work with my kids.
At least I still have my kidsto worry about, because not
because at least I still havethem to worry there's these
families out here that have lostyoung people and it's just
(11:15):
heart-wrenching.
As you can tell, it's hard forme to talk about.
I'm sure a lot of us feel thisway and aren't acknowledging it,
so I wanted to take a momentand do my best to acknowledge it
without completely breakingdown with all of you.
But I just wanted to take amoment here and just acknowledge
the situation and what theamount of lives that it has
(11:37):
destroyed, the amount of livesthat this tragedy has touched,
and I do hope that the survivorsand the people like myself who
are removed from the situation,that we are seeing this as an
opportunity to appreciate morewhat we have and the people in
our lives today.
Thank you for being with metoday.
I appreciate all of you and Iwill catch you on the next one,
(12:00):
take care.
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