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June 12, 2025 • 41 mins
Uhler and Moats discuss the Steelers current pecking order in the wide receiver room, as well as the looming contract negotiations with TJ Watt.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Euler and Motes are on the air.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
This is the Steelers Blitz on your twenty four to
seven home of the Black and Gold Skin are Steelers
Nation Radio.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Good afternoon, Steelers Nation.

Speaker 4 (00:23):
How we do it?

Speaker 1 (00:24):
I feel like Aaron Rodgers is part of the black.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
And the goal you has go well that he is
and that has certainly put a pep in all of
our steps.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
By Schuler Arthur Motes.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
It is the Steelers Blitz on Steelers Nation Radio and
the Steelers Audio Network here as we roll along into
our number two, approaching the end of many camp, the
end of this offseason phase, and heading into the hey,
don't make yourself headline.

Speaker 4 (00:52):
Portion of the off season here mode.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
Oooh, be careful, Please don't make yourself headline. That's the
last thing you want to.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
That is that is that is certainly the last thing
that you want to do. And business very bad for business,
very bad for business. And we've seen that play out
before and we don't want to have to see that
play out again. Let's just have let's just all retreat
very nicely here for the next uh the next month
and a half, and then we'll all gather, We'll all

(01:23):
gather in the trope and just hit the ground running, right.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, it gets real quiet out here. And when you
get real quiet, a speeding ticket. We have you as
a headline.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Baby. You don't want to be that guy. Mm hmmm
mm hmm. That's rights.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
That's exactly right, that's exactly right.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
We don't, we don't, we don't need any of that.
That's that is that is absolutely right. But I did
before before we get into a couple other things here
in the second hour of the show, I I did
just want to ask you, Mozi, like, what what do
you think think? Because again, in the off season and

(02:03):
a lot of recurring themes here, I think we I
think we all have thought that the offense is not
a finished product, not obviously only from an install standpoint,
but from a personnel standpoint as well too. You know,
like we we talked about the loss of Darnell Parnham

(02:24):
Junior and just how that leaves you a body short
at the tight end position. We've talked a lot about
the wide receiver group and what that would look like
based off of the quarterback now that we know that
Aaron Rodgers is in the fold. Another bigger picture question
here for you, But how would you round out the
roster again, particularly on the offensive side of the football

(02:47):
here before we transition to some defense for the rest
of the show, like like what's what's next? How would
you round out the roster? What do you think potentially
could still be to come here?

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Yeah, I'm going to add another receiver, a playmaker on
the permit. I think can he cook with what he
currently has, Absolutely, But I just think it's a little
easier on everyone if we're not rolling into the season
with Calvin Austen as the bona fide wide receiver two.

(03:22):
I think he has a great ability to continue to
ascend in this league, and I think that he will
continue to grow and be a heck of a player,
which he already has shown early on. But when we're
starting to talk about wide receiver two in the expectations
that come with that, the production that's required of that,

(03:44):
I just think that right now that's a little bit
larger of an ask than what Calvin Austin has shown
the ability for just yet. Like I said, and it's
not saying that he can't do it, but I think
that that's one of the things that you would rather
have a little bit more insurance with first, and then

(04:08):
we go all in on that one versus kind of
what's being reported at least from the wide receivers.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
Coach that yeah, this is the that's O wide receiver two.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
Yes, yes, that is.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
That is what Zakazani said today is that Calvin Austin
is the wide receiver number two.

Speaker 4 (04:29):
And that's that's the thing for me.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
I I Calvin Austin belongs on an NFL field on Sundays.
I don't think we have any doubt about that. But
you and I have discussed this. As much as we
feel DK Metcalf is a more established number one than
what the Steelers had with George Pickens heading into to
last year, certainly it would it would still in a

(04:55):
sense feel like same church, different pew of You're asking
a lot of questions behind your number one guy, and listen,
I know, like I I was very excited to see
DK Metcalf today. I mean it's it is.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
The The.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Body type that that guy has is unbelievable. I mean,
he motes, he can stand, he can stand next to
d Or he can stand next to Darnell Washington and
Broderick Jones and look like he belongs with those two guys.
I mean, yep, it's a it's incredible, but you also
you don't want to be leaning on exclusively that with

(05:33):
a lot of question marks for seventeen games and god forbid,
like we saw with George Pickens last year, he misses
two weeks, three weeks, something like that, and then you're
then you really feel like you're you're upcreek without a paddle.
That's the thing for me now too. I'm with you
on that. And it doesn't like it doesn't have to
be a DK Metcalf type move where it's like a

(05:56):
headline grabbing, Oh my goodness, we really just went out
and got this guy. But I but I think, you know,
like it's it sounds funny. But adding a Deontay Johnson
type Okay, I'm not saying Dionta Johnson, but like.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
He want the renon.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
But but but but that type of guy to add
to the fold right now would be very welcomed.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
I would agree.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
And obviously you know I'm a Deontay finn if that
would be the guy, I just throwing that out there, right,
just throwing that out there. But we know that let's see,
we've seen Gabe Davis name pop up. We've seen him worried.
Cooper's name pop up. Alan Lazard's name has popped up
even more so now that Rogers is here.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
We know those guys in their relationship.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Any of those help us, though, any of those things
help us total. Heck, I don't even care if it's
a group project, like I said, man, as long as
the production equals wide receiver too, DK gonna do what
DK does. But you gotta have production that's gonna equate
to wide receiver too, equate to what George Pickens was
going to bring us in addition to what we were
still going to be expecting from Calvin and Roman and

(07:13):
Robert Woods. Like we know we wanted those dudes to
still have a certain level of production where I still saying, yeah,
we should have two thousand yard receivers bare minimalm Like
we know that weant about to act like we didn't
feel like that.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
We noticed how we felt correct for.

Speaker 4 (07:31):
A long time.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
Yeah, yeah, and I that's the thing too, And they're like, listen,
there's some intriguing pieces of this conversation too, Like Roman
Wilson is an intriguing part of this conversation, Robert Woods
that you just mentioned, I feel like I like, I
probably haven't done my due diligence in discussing him enough
as it relates.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Shut us to my dog Woods, because that's like, that's
the guy that it feels like, listen, if it's five years.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
Ago Robert Woods, right, like, we're all no problem, no
questions asked, in the sense of, like what we know
Aaron Rodgers likes from his wide receivers in that reliability,
that consistency that if it's an eleven and a half
yard route, you're gonna be at eleven and a half
yards every single time. You're not gonna be at eleven time,
You're not gonna be at eleven. You're not gonna be

(08:22):
at twelve, You're gonna be an eleven and a half.
That to me is like, listen, we all know the
Steelers have been doing their due diligence in that regard,
but that to me remains kind of the I think
final final rounding out of the roster, not even necessarily
before we get to training camp, but just before we
get to September.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah, and I hope that, like I said, the weight
is worthwhile because we're seeing right now with this quarterback situation,
that weight was worthwhile.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
So maybe this way to be worthwhile.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
And then it happened to be another person that might
be out here waiting too to show it. Hopefully his
weight is also worthwhile. I'm just I hope innuition right now.
I treat them like Santa Claus. When you show up,
it's gonna be a great time, but you don't see
him often. All right, this one is really really important.
So you catch what I'm saying. You catch from a
looting too, right there?

Speaker 3 (09:13):
Well, you know what they say, they take good things
come to those who wait. Come on, at least at
least that's what I've been told in the past. So
let's discuss that a little bit when we come back
here on the other side. Let's talk a little bit
about TJ. Watt and everything going on there in the
looming contract situation. How that relates to what the Steelers
are doing now at many camps.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
When is this looming contract situation you speak on? What
do you mean? What's going on? What am I messing here?

Speaker 4 (09:38):
Have you been living under a rock for the last
what is.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
This contract you speak of? What's going on here?

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Man?

Speaker 1 (09:46):
You get messing? Don't be doing it speaking of We'll.

Speaker 4 (09:49):
Get into all of that when we return on the
other side.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
Arthur Motes, West Shueler Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers
Audio Network.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
This Steelers Glitz with Wesley Huler and Arthur Mose on
your twenty four seven home of the Black and Gold.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
A Skin are pen ultimate segment of the week here
on the Steelers Blitz on Steelers Nation Radio on the
Steelers Audio Network. And I do think it's important to
note this as well, too, Mozie, before we jump back
into it. As I said that, we are entering the

(10:34):
what is I think the one true slow period of
the National Football League calendar coming up here for the
next six or seven weeks. And so just to let
the people know, we will we you and I will
be missing some shows over the next six or seven weeks.

Speaker 4 (10:49):
We each have some different vacations planned.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
So you know, listen, I know you're all subscribed, I
know you're all locked in and ready to go, But
just just bear with us here over the next weeks
as we as we do think take what I would
think is some some much deserved uh repriet.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
We're taking We're taking a ces.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
That's exactly right, That's exactly right, but we are also
at the same time are not going anywhere. You know,
you all know that as well too, so you know
where to stay with us in lockstep here before we
get to training camp in late July, but before we
get to that. Arthur motes, it is kind of It's

(11:31):
been interesting to me that normally the mini camp absence
of the highest paid player, the face of the franchise, TJ.
The best player on your team, TJ Watt, future Hall
of Famer Trent Jordan Watt, would be I think the
forefront of a lot of conversation. But I guess when

(11:53):
you sign a four time MVP at quarterback that does kind.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Of tend to do it.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
That'll, that'll, that'll do it. That'll, that'll, that'll take take
some headlines. But of course, obviously I I also think
we would not be doing our our work, our due
diligence as uh as you know, as as as talk
show hosts here if we did not spend some time
discussing t J. Watt and his absence from many camp.

(12:22):
To me, mostes listen, I get it, it's June. There
are people we all have to fill hours of talk shows,
segments of TV. You know, inches in space of of
of of columns, and in print media all those different things.
And so I understand why there has been even a

(12:45):
little tame in the wake of Aaron Rodgers, a lot
of reaction around t J. Watt's absence in.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
This mini camp.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
And you know, four years ago he was a hold in,
and now is he a holdout? And and what's this
gonna look like in training camp and all those things.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
But hey, we's what's the difference between a hold in
and the hold out?

Speaker 4 (13:08):
You're where your feet are located?

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Okay, I was a wonder because both of them mean
you're still in that practicing right, correct?

Speaker 4 (13:18):
Correct?

Speaker 3 (13:18):
You might you might be here, but you are not
a full participant.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
I'm here, but I'm not here, all right.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
Right, right?

Speaker 3 (13:25):
And and again if I think there are a lot
of situations where this could be different, but when it
comes to TJ where he has stated that he wants
to be a you know, a one helmet guy and
wants to be a Pittsburgh Steeler, And we have heard
for a lifer, and we have heard from the owner
of the Pittsburgh Steelers organization. Of course, Aren't Rooney the

(13:47):
second and team president, that he wants t J. Watt
to be, in his words, a one helmet guy as.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Well supports the movement. He supports the movement.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
Like you and I A lot of times with these
types of conversations, right we we bust out the uh
the Steelers blitz patented CCWP meter. Calm, concerned, worried, or panicked.
I am still very calm as it relates to t J.
Watt and his contract negotiations and everything that's going on
here at this standpoint in early June.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Ah, I'm with you on that, man. The deal's gonna
get done. It's TJ. Watt. I mean, Peter Man, you
waste the guitar pe man. We know who he is. Like,
what are we talking about?

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Miles Garrett is getting forty and a half, TJ is
scheduled to get with twenty eight?

Speaker 1 (14:38):
What are we talking about? Man?

Speaker 3 (14:40):
And Mason Mason Crosby's at what thirty eight?

Speaker 4 (14:43):
I want to.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Say like this, su Max Crosby, I was like, sorry.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
The old kicker of the Packers is not money like that.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
Hey wouldn't be a show if Yuler didn't mess up.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
Somebody's first name, not Mason Crosby, the former kicker, not
Sidney Crosby, the greatest soccer hockey player in the history
of hockey, Max Crosby, Yes, part of me, yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
I mean that's the day of like, regardless of what
neever you might start the negotiation at. If you're the
Pittsburgh Steelers, you know where the number has to ends.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
And so if you ask it, where's TJ? Whye at?
If they said anything.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Less than forty point five, you know where TJ's at.
He's at home with his wife and kids or wife
and kid excuse me, enjoying the family's on because clearly
y'all can't be serious. And I say that because we
are the same people that will swear by it that
Miles Garrett is not better than TJ Watt.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
We have those conversations many times every year. So tell
we tell Pro Football Focus to go stick it or
the sun don't shine.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
And now all of a sudden we're supposed to negotiate.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
That Miles is better than TJ.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
That's why Miles deserves forty point five million dollars per
year and TJ deserves less. Uh uh, I'm not about
to lie to myself. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Oh he's abroab he's thirty one.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
He had eleven and a half sacks last year at
nineteen and led the league the year and let the
whole NFL and sacks year before that, like save it.
Outside of him being hurt, this man is a double
digit and high end double digit.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Sack guy throughout his career.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
The lowest total he's had, probably being hurt with seven
sacks is rookie year. That's a rookie all right, yep.
Other than that, you'll see it with five and a half,
and that's when he got hurt. Twitter peck right or
whatever head they injury had. I said that, this is
twenty two and a half, nineteen seven, ten and a half,

(17:01):
fifteen and a half down here, eleven and a half
down here, eleven and a half.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
What are we talking about? Man?

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah, Oh, he's a pass rusher. You know how long
pass rushers play. Don't even play that game. Pass rushers
have clearly shown they could play easily to their thirty seven.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
Clearly have shown that.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
So even if you only give him three more years,
clearly you know what time he's on.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
It's TJ. Watt Man. Let's do it out here right now.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Man, y'all know what that is, we could talk about
the Parsons of the world. We could talk about the
Miles and Garrison of the world. We can talk about
the mad Max Prizes of the world. TJ WHTT is
TJ wy for a reason. That's a bad dude, man.
The numbers reflect that. He has the hardware to reflect
that as well. And you watch him, he's a skilled craftsman.
Some dudes, man, they will wow you. Other dudes are

(17:48):
just silky smooth. He's silky smooth man. But the production
it is not. It's unmatched. We talk about TJ's numbers
with the Reggie Wis and the Bruce Smiths of the world. Man, yep, Like,
make sure y'll understand what we say here. Man, the
Reggie Whites, the Bruce Smiths like these are all time grace,
the Michael Straight all time grace.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
That's what we're talking about here, yep. And we having
a debate about what how when? How long? No, you know,
the never when the number is appropriate call them back.
Is that simple?

Speaker 3 (18:27):
And I completely agree, And just two things that I
would add the first time.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Oh wait a minute, no, and Aaron Rice didn't even
take up too much money either, so they don't even
give me that no more. He took one for nineteen
point five, but only ten guaranteed, so save it.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
So that was gonna be the second thing that I
got to but i'll bump that up to first.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
For you.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
The Steelers are not strapped for salary cap money. I mean,
in fact, quite the opposite. They have some of the
most wiggle room if you go buy all these different
capologists and all these different websites that kind of specialize
in that thing.

Speaker 4 (19:02):
They got long bread, they got.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
Some They've got some of the most wiggle room of
anybody in the National Football League.

Speaker 4 (19:09):
Mm hm.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
They got them phone numbers on phone numbers, they got
them international area code type numbers in their bank account
right now.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
They got plenty of money for the people.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
So there's been a lot of conversation about, oh, you
could have had them at thirty seven, thirty eight, and
now you're gonna have to pay them for Okay, you've
got the wiggle.

Speaker 4 (19:27):
Room to do that.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
That's that's not going to break your bank, that's not
going to handicap you in any regard.

Speaker 4 (19:32):
That's I think a very important thing to note.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
The second thing for me is just this, it's a
much bigger picture like thirty thousand foot view thing motes.

Speaker 4 (19:44):
You and I we discussed this all the time.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
The Steelers enter every season thinking that there is an
opportunity to win, to contend, division title, postseason, super Bowl,
all those things. Right, there is no such thing as
a lost season. There's no such thing as looking to
the future. It is always about right now and winning
the next game that's on the schedule. You just went

(20:11):
out and signed a forty one year old quarterback to
prove that point, right. I mean, there is there is
no there is no universe that you can convince me
that the Pittsburgh Steelers do not have their best chance
to win games on Sunday without TJ. Watt locked up
and and and and.

Speaker 4 (20:29):
Ready to roll.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
I mean there as a organization that has defined every
single year is an opportunity to go out there and
win and contend. You have to have number ninety the
most impactful. We could talk about best, we could talk
about all these different things, but without I think reasonable

(20:52):
doubt the most impactful defensive player over the last decade,
you can't convince me that there's no such thing for
us as all in because every year we're contending if
you if you don't have that guy in the fold
and and and locked up and satisfied and ready.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
To go, unless you lie to yourself, it's about it.
Unless you lie to yourself. Hey, that man, Hey, that
his money money?

Speaker 1 (21:22):
I'm not yeah, ain't. We ain't about to do that.
Do you know what this is? Come on?

Speaker 3 (21:26):
Man?

Speaker 4 (21:26):
And I'm still like again.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
I can see if Rogers took forty money. I can
see it.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
Different conversation, right, Totally a different conversation, totally totally different conversation.
You are you are absolutely correct and pointing that out
as well too. I think that's important to note in
this conversation.

Speaker 4 (21:44):
And again I.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
Ain't mean to cut you off. I do want to
also say, man, yeah, it was hell true to his
word too. He said, do we take about ten think
about that, man, it's not much.

Speaker 4 (21:53):
More than that.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
And even if he even if he hits all those incentives,
he's like twenty nothing that's breaking the bank.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
And if he hits those incentives, that means we've won
a super Bowl and he was League MVP.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
That's all the part we're feeling.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
What about you have the League of for twenty million dollars,
we'll be like, yeah, paid your thirty.

Speaker 4 (22:19):
We're running it. We're running it back with that guy.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
What are we talking about?

Speaker 3 (22:23):
Absolutely so yeah, and again in the in the biggest
of pictures, I'm still calm, Like I I I don't
think there's much. It is obviously a discussion point, it
is obviously a story, but I'm still very calm.

Speaker 4 (22:39):
I am.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
I'm still very confident that this, this will all get
done and in the right time, Yes it will.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
And if not, they're gonna be fine. Where omar be
hanging out at And yeah, they're gonna chase him out.
You know that, Elmar. You know it's nothing but love baby,
all right? But you know, if TJ get ran up
out of here because TJ can't get this doode, then
they gonna they're gonna be pretty upset. And the problem
is nobody's gonna mess mister Rooney Coach T. They ain't
mess with Coach T. They're gonna look at you, all right,

(23:09):
So just no, just no, all right. I'll just give
you the warning, give you the heads up if you
don't want Still, they should really upset with you.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Get them in deal done, all right? Please get the
deal with that pretty please pretty please.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
I'm begging you, man, all right, begg you.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
It'll be nice though.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
You know, sometime in training camp will get the news
that the deal has been done. It'll be a great
content piece for all of us on that random August day.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Listen, man, this front office they handle business, all right,
they get deals done.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
I'm not worried at all. They'll get the deal with that.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
They certainly will. They certainly will.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
But for in the meantime, we will continue to discuss
and we will continue to monitor.

Speaker 4 (23:50):
As we roll along.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
But we have got one more segment to go. You
know what that means on the other side. Uh, some
final mini camp thoughts here as we roll along and
we all also, of course, we'll have to get to
your tweets, your participation, your reactions. You know where to
get at us if you want to get involved, at
West Uler at the body fifty two.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Duh Bah.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
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Speaker 1 (24:29):
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Speaker 2 (24:33):
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Speaker 3 (24:39):
Final segment here of the Steelers Blitz for this week
in June, for this final week.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
Of many camp for this well really kind of final
hurry up week.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
Arthur modes before we get to some much needed slow time.
Before we get to that, of course, we have some
some teas.

Speaker 4 (25:02):
To cross and some eyes to dot. There we go.
I was going to butcher that, but I did it.
We made it work.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
Before we get up out of here, we've got some
tweets to get to. Arthur motes on a plethora of
different topics as we roll along here, Motzi, this is
a good one, and you know one that is near
and dear to my heart. Hunter tweets us and he asks,
he asks, I want to hear you your guys' thoughts

(25:30):
on what having Aaron Rodgers means for a young center
like Zach Frasier obviously worked with a guy with very
impressive credentials in Russell Wilson last year, but.

Speaker 4 (25:42):
Maybe even to a greater level this year.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
What's that like for such a young rookie to be
able to work with such high pedigree quarterbacks in his
first two seasons.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
I mean, honestly, I think it's huge anytime you're able
to have that type of talent man high level dudes man,
like you brought up, whether it's Russ, whether it's Rogers,
these are dudes that know what they're doing. We're talking
about just experience. Experience matters, man, And I just think
that if you are smart about it, you soak up
that knowledge, you soak up those opportunities because you're seeing

(26:16):
the stuff that not everybody's privy to. You're able to
pick certain guys' brains. Watch how they take care of
their body, Watch how they prepare for the work week,
what they do on a Wednesday versus a Thursday versus
a Friday. Heck, how they operate on the road. Certain dudes, Man,
their routine on the road is like, hey, man, I
don't want to replicate that, man. Other dudes is like, okay, yeah,

(26:39):
I see why you are who you are. But those
are all the little nuanced things that come with having
these opportunities to be around just truly great players.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Like not everybody gets this, man.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Some dudes go their whole career and never have dudes
of this caliber to be around to learn from, to
pick their brains and stuff like that. But say, man,
that's not the case right now. Man, So yeah, I
think it's highly impactful.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Man.

Speaker 4 (27:05):
I think you're absolutely right.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
I mean, listen, when we talk about the best centers
in the National Football League, most of them have elite
quarterbacks playing behind them.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
And I think about it, man, Jeff Saturday, like, man,
you feel like Mark, he's pouncy and.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
UDEs.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
Man, we talk about Creed Humphrey a lot now and
he's got Patrick Mahomes playing behind him. And we talk
about Tyler Linderbaum a lot now and he's got Lamar
Jackson playing behind him. Like there is absolutely something to that,
And I I think everything you said there was spot on,
and like to just from Zach's standpoint of like the
pre snap processing having a guy that is elite above

(27:44):
the shoulders is Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Think about when Rogers sees certain things and he's like,
you know what, I'm checking this to this and this
to that.

Speaker 4 (27:57):
Is that it's a massive Like.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Man, I might would have already been thinking to check there,
but now I don't have to. It's just a weight lifted,
largely due.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
To just veteran experience.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
And that's what I was saying, Like, when you have
that vet, man, you're gonna learn so much. You soak
up so much because the things that they just do
second nature to the younger player. You're looking like wow,
like holy smokes, like you do that, you say that
like you really would have done Like I remember the

(28:28):
first time Troy problem Alu checked the plumb like whoa,
whoa you like, I know I've seen it, but you
really do this, like you really are right, like you know.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
What you're doing.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
It's just certain things like that, man, but as a
whole man, Like I said for Zegment, it's gonna be
hugely beneficial. Mason too, obviously man, but totally different position.
But it's like, Yo, you're.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Still around it.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
You woo how it works?

Speaker 2 (28:52):
You you you watch it, how it takes carriage body.
You watch and listen to how it watches tape, because
you're gonna need to see the same things the heases.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
That's the other part of it, right.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
We act as if, oh, man, quarterback's gonna make it
all right, Na, that's not the case.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
You got to see it how he sees it.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
Because when he's in two minutes, he's ready to go,
he doesn't have time to explain it to you. When
the game went all he doesn't have time to aa. Man,
we checking it because of this. We're doing this because
that nah, he needs to know that, you know, the
saving that he knows. Hey, you see that dude hanging
right hand to overlay. He's in the count. Why because
he's about to come or somebody's about to come. All right,
we know how we want to do this protection. But

(29:30):
that's the experienced part. That's like I said, man, when
you have that, when you have high level experienced quarterback play, man,
it makes everything better. Your past protection looks better because
the guys are own the ball as long he's processing
information faster. All right, you play the same coverage you
want to versus this guy, he's gonna cook you, yep,
and you're not really going to fool him either. Like,

(29:54):
that's why he's able to get the ball off faster.
That's what helps is off his line out.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
Yeah, and no slight to rust. But he's tall.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
He can actually like see and that was one of
the things that we talked about with Russ that you
know is a part of a knock on him is
the fact that he's of the shorter variety, So just
seeing at times a little bit more of a challenge.
That's not the case for rogers like This dude has
been what he's been for a reason and the people
around him have benefitted like that largely due to his consistency.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
Completely agree, and you know what, sticking with some Aaron
Rodgers conversation here, This is a good question from Angry
Bike Lane, our.

Speaker 4 (30:36):
Buddy, Angry Bike Lane shout out.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
Last year, the Pittsburgh Steelers were towards the top of
the league in rushing attempts. The New York Jets were
dead last thirty second in the NFL. We know the
Pittsburgh Steelers want to be an offense predicated upon running
the football. Are we sure Aaron Rodgers is going to
let them run as much as they want to?

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (31:04):
I get I get his question.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
I do like it.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
I do like it, man, I do. But trust me, man,
we're gonna run the football. We're gonna be a physical uitit.
Rogers and no, Rogers, we're doing that, Coach Obvias here,
We're running this football, man. But I think Rogers understands
that also, and he wouldn't have signed up for this
if he didn't know what he was getting. He knows
what type of team we are, and like I said,
I think he kind of is looking forward to having

(31:29):
that type of structure, having that type of leadership, that
type of hierarchy, because he hasn't had that.

Speaker 4 (31:36):
Completely agree a man.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Ever, because depending on how you have view Mike McCarthy,
I'm like, hey, now everybody even looked at him with
that type of you know, reverence that they do with
coach Tomlin.

Speaker 4 (31:52):
I completely agree, completely agree, all.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
Right, Moti, last one here, as we close this thing down.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
You ready, let's do it baby.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
Our buddy Andrew chimes in with a little three question Thursday,
as we love to do this time of year. Okay,
Number one from Andrew? What do you like best about yourself.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
That I don't take myself too serious. I get to
just have fun. I laugh at myself all the time.
And yeah, whenever I feel like I have to be
the best at every single thing work related, relationship related,
for related, I say no, I don't, because I'm just Arthur.
My name is Arthur Nathan most third, all right, this

(32:35):
takes all the pressure away. So I love that about myself.
I do not take myself serious at all. I left
myself a lot when they be like yes sir, look
yes sir, Like oh my god, y'all think I'm important. Geez,
Louise Man, I go in and people you applaud to me,
Oh my god, you're ar like boy, yeah, but it stop.

Speaker 4 (32:50):
Boy.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
If y'all only knew, geez the way this big Toby
feeling sometimes lort.

Speaker 4 (32:56):
Yeah, I'm.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
Totally with you that I think you and I kind
of share that, like like mine was going to be that.
I think most people would tell you, like I, I
bring up good, I bring it well of course, the
fact the fact that I'm thirty four and still got
the hairline. Oh no, I better knock on wood here,
I think most people would tell you. And I think

(33:19):
that's kind of similar in what you just said too.
I think it's part of why you and I get
along so well, that like I, I I bring a
positive energy to the to the to the to the room,
to the atmosphere, to the sphere, right of what everybody's doing,
Like I like, I like to think that I always
look at the glass half full and uh yeah, what
I like best about myself, Like I, I I think

(33:40):
there's I think there's a positivity when I when I
am in an area, right, If that's the best to say.

Speaker 4 (33:47):
I don't take myself too. Seriously.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
I like to have fun, glasses half full, we're smiling.
You know, there's there's there's always a positive energy. And
I think that's one of the things you and I,
uh you know, hit it off on seven eight years
ago when we first met each other.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Yeah, and I think that, uh lord, Willie, We're gonna
continue to do them things. That's exactly right, because I
definite don't plumb take myself serious.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
Tomorrow. I can't speak for that. I can't speak for
next year, but I'm definitely not gonna do it tomorrow. Tomorrow.
I already can feel.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
Myself laughing now myself, all right, not the next to
the US Open. I'll be at the US Open, but
I'll be laughing at myself the whole time. You know,
be like, what what do you do it here? How'd
you get here?

Speaker 4 (34:25):
What if?

Speaker 1 (34:25):
What did they do? What? Oh my goodness.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
Question number two from Andrew here is tell me a
stance you took in the past, something you argued about
that looking back on, you think was absolutely ridiculous. Okay,
Arthur Motes, let me start on this one.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
Do you know what you're about to say? Already?

Speaker 3 (34:48):
Carson carsonal quarterback Okay, all right, my Carson Wentz believe
that's it.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Oh my gosh, I will never forget. Oh man, shout
out to Jacob too. Oh my god, what a day,
What a time? What it's time? Oh may y'all gotta
go back at the archives by that way. What it's all?
What a'tare?

Speaker 3 (35:18):
Poor Jacob, Poor Jacob, who is now the producer of
the DV Morning Show, the biggest show in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
God bless him.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
But yeah, I think that day he thought he was
gonna have to play play referee between.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
The two of us. Oh my goodness, of my goodness.
All right, let me think.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Ah, I'm trying to think of one that I was
like a hard heart stance or like that, like, man, hold,
I gotta have something out there. I gotta have something
out there. Oh never mind, I got it. Deshaun Watson,
I'll say him, yeah, because I think he was gonna
be nice in Cleveland. Yeah, And to this day, I
still don't know what happened. Yes, I would say to

(35:59):
Shawn Watson, Yep, that's.

Speaker 4 (36:02):
A good one.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
That's a real good one, because I mean, you know me,
I was like bro and dude led the league in
passing man prior to everything going down, and it's just
almost like space jam, like they didn't take his talent,
Like I've never seen that like that before.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
MANI big time. That's a good answer. That's a good answer.
Final one for Andrew. What is something that you simply
wish you had more talent in doing?

Speaker 1 (36:31):
Oh for me playing the piano.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
Yeah, And it's and it's not even like a lack
of like ability, it's just we don't put I don't
put the time in. I'm sure you can attest to
the same thing, like they don't put enough time in.
So it's like it's like we're good enough to the
casual player or the casual person that has never played before.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
We're good enough to play. And it's like, oh wow,
this is pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
But when we talk about the professionals or the greats
or in your case, you bring of the John Mayers
of the world, right in my case, I think of
the Stevie Wonders, the Ray Charles of the world.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
The John Legens is.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
Like, yeah, to get to that level, you would have
to actually like lock in the same way you locked
in on football, the same way you locked in on media.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
And it's just like the thought of starting that journey.
It's just like, man, I don't want to deal with that.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
Man.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
So I'm like always just in this little yep good
enough that if you want me to play something, I
can say, oh, oh that's pretty cool. I get at
But then when it's like to take that next step
to be like nice, nice, nah, I ain't got that.
So I would definitely say that.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
Yeah, that would completely be my answer to so to
give you something different, And I don't necessarily know if
this is like a talent more so than just an
ability or.

Speaker 4 (37:47):
A trade or something. I wish I was better on
low sleep.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
Okay, Okay, again it's not because my answer would be
the same as yours. So I'm trying to go the
little something different here, Like I've had this conversation with
you many times over our eight years or so doing
this like I'm a bit of a sleep diva. I
do not operate well on low sleep. And when you
do what I do for a living, combined.

Speaker 5 (38:11):
With combined with having two young children, I I wish
I had the talent for operating at a higher level
on low sleep.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
My fuse gets nonexistent. I get irritated. I get agitated.
I feel like.

Speaker 4 (38:32):
I'm not nearly as good on radio.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
I feel like I'm not nearly as good as a
father and all these different things.

Speaker 4 (38:38):
So yeah, so I wish I could operate a little
bit better.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
On I know that's not necessarily a talent, but to
give you something different, that's what I'm going with.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Man, that's real life. Man, that's real deal. Holy feel baby.

Speaker 4 (38:50):
I'm a diva when I'm a diva when I don't
get my sleep.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Hey, look, you know yourself mad, you're self aware. I'm
the opposite. I'll be over here, like, man, just give.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Me full you for you make it work, Arthur, blame
it on my NFL life, Okay, my PTSG.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
Just you're so trained that hey, it doesn't matter which
your your ear, what you're bringing in the building, when
you're in the building, in the building, all right, be
tired on your own time.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
And like you've told me a million times and you
will tell me a million more, you better get comfortable
being uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
Oh yeah, because you know what they're gonna tell you.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
All you want to sleep, don't worry, I get you
all to sleep you want, don't don't, don't Hey, hey,
hey West, don't.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
You worry about it at all?

Speaker 4 (39:32):
Hey, Lola, I'm.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
Glad that you tired. I'm happy that you're tired. You know, privilege,
no privilege, because now I.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Can help you all. You know, I'm gonna help you out.
I'm gonna get you all to sleep. You want you
no longer part of this rosta goodbye. I'm gonna go
sign this next bay because that next guy, he don't
care about sleep. He said, Bro, all I need is
an hour, I'll be done, okay.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
And this real life dude is out there that is
like that that Hudy man. Yep, yep.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
So trust me, I get it man, I seeing them
coach tell you that. Oh oh so huh yeah, yeah,
you complain about the reps.

Speaker 4 (40:02):
Huh oh, I'll get you.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
No, I got you, I got you, I'll take care,
I'll take care you. You you want less reps? I
got you all right? Cool m M yep and afy
tell you won't don't.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
And that's that's what I'm trying to fight off every
single day.

Speaker 4 (40:20):
That will do it, that will do it, that will
do it.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
For today, we made it through another day, Modezie and
uh and a lot of fun here as it's been
certainly a uh an exciting mini camp for a lot
of different reasons for your Pittsburgh Steelers uh BO on
all of this, Like we've said before, we won't be
going anywhere for the next month and a half or so.

Speaker 4 (40:41):
We'll still be here with.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
The schedule, go with nowhere.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
We ain't going nowhere except for maybe on a couple
of vacations where we're beat this show. This show will
be broken up a little bit, but as always, you
do know where to find us, obviously, and it before
we know it will be July and we'll be back
and rocking and rolling in training camp and getting ready
for the regular season.

Speaker 4 (41:05):
But for now, that will do it for today.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
A big thank you to all the power grid and
the megawatts and everybody who rocks and rolls with us
and participates with the show. And of course a huge
shout out to the best co host in the business,
Arthur Nathan Motes the Third who me take it easy, everybody,
take care. We'll be back to talk to you soon.
As always, you know where to find us. It's on

(41:29):
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Speaker 1 (41:32):
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