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All right, guys,
thank you so much and welcome.
And this is the Stephan Piscanopodcast.
With Stephan Piscano and I'm alittle bit flabbergasted, guys.
This is an emergency sportspodcast.
First time I've ever done one ofthese, but I had to because
it's almost 11 pm at night hereon the West Coast, I just got a
text from my brother in DC thereon the East Coast and he said
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the Lakers just traded AnthonyDavis for Luka Doncic and my
first reaction was yeah, okay,that's, that's BS.
There's no way that they didthat because the Lakers don't
have enough assets, they don'thave enough draft picks.
Because, being a diehard sportsfan that I am and being a of my
life, a Lakers fan, untilLeBron hijacked my team, the
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last seven years we only had twoavailable first round picks
that we could trade Might be 29and 31.
We traded one to Utah and I'vegot to look up the specifics
because I'm doing instantreaction here.
Just right after that, Irealized just in the last 20
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minutes here that the trade isconfirmed, so let me look it up
right now.
Okay, so here's the details ofthe trade Markeith Morris, the
Mavericks get Anthony Davis, maxChristie and a 2029 Lakers
first round pick, which appearsto be, at this time, unprotected
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The Jazz get Jalen Hood-Shafino, the 2025 Clippers second round
pick and a 2025 Maverickssecond round pick.
So I am shocked, guys.
The biggest thing that'sshocking about this to me isn't
so much the names involved, butI'm just shocked.
The Mavs only got onefirst-round pick.
You would think that Luka, beingan all-NBA first-team player
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five consecutive years and only25 years old, still having two
years left on his deal beforehe's a free agent, and when you
factor in him going to a premierhistoric destination like the
Lakers, that has a great shot atresigning him for the long term
and having, before going to theLakers and LeBron James
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relegating him to a sidekickrole where his value dropped.
Davis was widely considered forfour or five years prior to
joining the Lakers as a topthree, top five player in the
NBA and he's played like it.
This year, the MVP odds werehigh on him the first half of
this season, when the Lakerswere playing well, davis was
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really the cause of that andhe's got great on-off numbers.
So I get it from a valuestandpoint for him as a player
and the Mavs want to win now,but I still think the Mavericks
could have extracted at leastthe two first-round unprotected
picks the Lakers had availableearlier to send.
Just because when you look atwhat Kevin Durant got a couple
years ago, you look at the valueplaced on players of this
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caliber where Luke is at in hisage and his consistency even
though he's injured right nowand he's had a little bit of
injury history he's been fairlyconsistent from an availability
standpoint and certainly fromthe caliber of player that he is
.
You're usually going to seefour or five first round picks
unprotected going for a playerlike that.
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So I guess that puts the valuethat the Mavs are putting on the
ability to win now with AnthonyDavis if he stays healthy at
two or three, maybe four firstround picks in itself to
contrast the value for Luca.
But I'm excited guys.
So I'm from Alabama originally,but Alabama has no pro
basketball team and no profootball team.
So as a kid, the firstbasketball game that I ever
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remember watching, I got towatch Magic Johnson play and I
just immediately thought he wasabout the coolest guy I'd ever
seen.
And so somehow as a kid inAlabama I became a diehard
Lakers fan.
And then I was a diehard andstill am a diehard Kobe Bryant
fan for 20 years.
I got to attend.
You know, obviously, yearslater, as an adult moving to
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California, it made a little bitmore sense.
I got to attend several Lakersgames, including Kobe's last
game, and it's been extremelydepressing for me as a Kobe fan
and a Laker fan, watching whatLeBron has done to my team, you
know, not only with shifting allof the narratives to where,
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instead of, it went watching itin the eighties and the nineties
, and the two thousands withKobe and magic and everybody
else.
It was always what can theplayer do for the team?
Can Michael Jordan win achampionship for the Bulls?
Can Kobe win one for the Lakers?
And with the Lakers we havesuch a historic history, we're
such an incredible history.
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It wasn't just can you win one,it's can you win more than
Magic?
I remember gosh in the mid-'90s, late-'90s, kobe going on Magic
Johnson's brief talk show thathe had I think it was called the
Magic Hour and Kobe saying toMagic well, you got five, how
many am I supposed to get?
Six, seven, eight?
And you know, kobe obviouslyended up winning five for us.
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When LeBron joined the team,that narrative changed to what
can the Lakers do for LeBron?
What can we do for him?
Let's trade away and then everysingle season that he's been
there, going on seven years nowevery single year, go look it up
, not just with the Lakers, butLeBron's entire career, really
at least the last 18 to 20 years.
Here it's.
What can we do for him?
Trade away the assets, tradeaway the draft picks, get him
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more help, get him more help,get him more help.
And the reason this is such abeautiful thing to me is it kind
of makes me feel like I don'tknow I might be back in the fold
here as a Lakers fan, becausenot that I'm such a diehard Luka
guy.
Luka actually plays a stylethat I don't really enjoy
watching.
It's almost identical to LeBronto where the ball has to flow
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through him.
He has to have the high usagerate, everything's about him,
which is the same as it's alwaysbeen for LeBron.
You kind of have to cater tohim in a sense.
But that's why I love it,because now, as somebody that's
not the biggest LeBron James fan, to put it lightly now this is
probably the one and only playerin the NBA that has the
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combination of the game that'salmost identical to LeBron.
You know a lot of people.
What we do which is kind ofridiculous if you think about it
is we only compare whiteplayers to historic white
players and black players tohistoric black players.
But honestly, go look at thestats and watch the game and how
they play and really look at it, even down to the mannerisms.
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Just like how everybody saidand I agree that Kobe Bryant's
game was almost a carbon copy ofMichael Jordan's game.
Luka's game is almost a carboncopy of LeBron's.
Obviously LeBron's moreathletic, but they're those big
forwards they have to carry theball.
They're a point forward andthey really need that high usage
to be successful.
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So this is going to be reallyfun to watch for me as somebody
that doesn't really care forLeBron and as somebody that has
been a Lakers fan for themajority of the last 35 years.
For me to get to watch the oneplayer that LeBron has to defer
to definitively, without ashadow of a doubt and there's no
whining that can be done to themedia, there's nothing he can
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do about it to say that that'snot the right thing, because
you've got what has beendefinitively the greatest scorer
in the game the last five, sixyears here, joining not even in
his prime 25, 26 years old,about to enter the prime years
of his career.
This is a beautiful thing andalso, on a side note, I'm really
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excited as somebody thatbelieves Anthony Davis has been
held back by playing with LeBronthe last five, six, seven years
here.
I'm really excited to get tosee what he does with the
Mavericks that have a win-nowteam.
They were in the NBA Finalslast year.
Davis again has put upincredible stats both on the
defensive side and the offensiveside of the ball this year,
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pairing him now with KyrieIrving, lebron's old teammate,
and a lot of people.
This is obvious too, but some ofyou that don't might forget
that in 2017, kyrie Irvingdemanded a trade from the Cavs
and from LeBron, and the reasonit was reported at that time he
wanted out was because he wastired of playing in the style
that LeBron forced him to play,with the stat padding and
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focusing more on LeBron's statsthan on the ultimate team
outcome.
That was reported as one of thebig reasons Kyrie Irving wanted
to be traded away from LeBron'steam in 2017.
He's had a wild road since then.
Maybe things are different nowfor him and he sees his
perspective a little bit, butit's going to be fun to watch
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two LeBron James cast-offsidekicks get to play together,
still at the tail end of theirprime, and see what they can do.
I really hope Davis stayshealthy so that we can get to
see what that outcome will be,because I think that the
Mavericks could be a sleeperfinals team right here, right
now, if Davis and Kyrie bothstay healthy, with what they've
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got, and then that 2029 firstround Lakers pick.
Again, I'm shocked that's themost shocking thing to me that
the Mavs only got one pick, butthere's still some value there.
A lot of the reason that peopleput value on it was because
they thought that, well, davismight be retired by then.
Lebron definitely will beretired by then.
That's going to be a high pick.
Now, though, with you tradingLuka at 25, 26 years old, you
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have to assume that that's goingto be a less valuable pick.
So I think the Mavs got hosedon the draft pick side of things
in this deal, but again, maybethey don't care, maybe it's just
about we didn't think we weregoing to be able to resign luca
in a couple of years.
We want to win now, and wethink davis gives us a great
chance to do that and let's getas much value get an all-star,
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mvp level, caliber player whilewe can, and just move on.
And again, for me, as a as aformer and maybe back again,
current diehard lakers fan, thisis exciting for the future,
guys, because with all ofLeBron's whining, with all of
the help and go back and look atit they've made a pretty
significant move either everyoffseason or every trade
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deadline in the seven years thathe's been there and it's been
for his benefit.
Okay, you want us to go get ADand trade away five draft picks
and all of our good youngplayers?
Fine, we'll do it.
You want us to go get RussellWestbrook?
Ok, fine, we'll do it.
Oh, now you want us to tradeRussell Westbrook and our draft
picks and get you more highcaliber, all star caliber
players to back you up as roleplayers?
Ok, we'll do that.
They did all of this.
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Now, once again, here we are at40 years old and he's demanding
more help.
Well, okay, now you're the help.
Now you're the help you get toback up this guy who some people
think is the best player in theleague right here, right now.
Because you know what else, guys, a lot of people think, oh man,
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well, why I've heard this by somany people on ESPN and so many
talk show hosts that are bigname people in sports say, oh my
gosh.
Well, what are you going to do?
Are you not going to helpLeBron?
And then you end up being aplay-in team or you miss the
playoffs because he didn't goall in.
Well, guess what guys?
We've been a play-in team, sixout of the, or worse, because
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there was a couple of yearswhere we missed the play-in
entirely, at least one.
Again, I'm doing this off thetop of my head because I just
got this in 20 minutes ago butwe've been in the playing game
or worse, five out of the six,and this year it might be six of
seven.
It was going to be six of seven, I believe, and until this
trade we'll see how luca doesand when he gets back, because
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he's injured right now but we'vebeen in the playing or worse,
five out of the six seasons thatlebron's been there.
That means that, with all this,with this guy who is falsely
propped up as an all-time topthree, top five player some
people I mean I'm not going toentertain what some people say,
but as a falsely propped upahead of greats like Kobe Bryant
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, like Tim Duncan, who owned himin the finals finals every time
they faced, really, because theone time that they didn't
defeat LeBron in the finals waswhen Ray Allen hit that bizarre
miracle shot.
That was just wild and LeBronwas airballing threes down the
stretch.
We'll talk about that later.
But with all of that, with thisguy, with a former before he
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came to play with LeBron,universally regarded top five
player in Davis, as what shouldhave been the lead dog, as his
quote-unquote sidekick, withgoing all-in for the Westbrooks
which you see how great he'splaying now with Jokic, and you
saw him average a triple-doublethe season before joining the
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Lakers, and then he got justdestroyed by playing with LeBron
, as so many have.
With all of that, guess whatyour end result was?
You were a playing team, or youwere missing the play-in or you
were missing the playoffs.
Every season, with theexception of the weirdest season
in sports history where theentire infrastructure was shut
down for a global pandemic,other than that where you got a
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weird almost six months off inthe middle of the season right
before the playoffs.
Then you gear up for this weirdbubble championship which, hey,
you know that's great.
Other than that, every singleseason they've been a play-in
team or worse, by sucking up toLeBron James, by catering to
LeBron James and by throwingaway the future of the franchise
for LeBron James.
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And so I'm ecstatic as a Lakersfan.
I think I'm back, I think I'mgoing to say I'm back, let's go,
lakers.
We get to actually make a movefor the future for once, and
they did it in such a beautifulway.
Way to go.
Rob Palenka, you hosed the Mavs, in my opinion, by only giving
up one first round pick and youget the one guy.
That's not only for the future,it's for right now.
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And you can say to LeBronaren't you happy?
We got you, we got you help andLeBron can finally take a
backseat and let me get my teamback.
So it's exciting day to be aLakers fan.
I had to hop on.