February 21, 2019 • 30 mins
This week's show tackles the tricky subject of racism. The Moose is back. He talks about an encounter with very unpleasant women who attacked him with a pork roast!
Corrections to the story:1. Quorn is NOT spelled with and “i”2. Quorn is from Yorkshire, not Cornwall
Then Jess describes some accusations that lead to crying on the job.
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Corrections to the story:1. Quorn is NOT spelled with and “i”2. Quorn is from Yorkshire, not Cornwall
Then Jess describes some accusations that lead to crying on the job.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Straw Hut Media.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Hey folks, I'm Jesse Wood and this is the podcast
Stiff from straw Hut Media. This is the podcast that
dies in the difficult aspects of the service industry. And well,
this week's episode is kind of difficult to introduce. That's
because we're talking about racism in the workplace. Well, we
all know it's a hot button issue. We'll try to
(00:24):
unpack it anyways and attempt to have a few giggles
in between. Have you ever experienced an odd race based
incident while on the job.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
And last night there was an incident. I was working
with this beautiful black girl. I'm me e being this
little white bitch. I can't shake nothing, do nothing, but
she had an opportunity to make some money. This guy,
these two Hispanic men came in. They were real drunk,
and they asked for one hundred dollars in once they
could throw it on her, she danced all over him.
He was grabbing on her booty and all this, and
she came back around the bar and he tried to
accuse her of stealing a hundred dollars bill. And it
(00:52):
was just crazy when he was looking at her saying like.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I know what you people do?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
You people blah blah blah. And as soon as I
stepped in. As soon as I stepped in, he was like, oh, miss,
I'm so I'm sorry, And it just blew my mind,
like you were okay to grab on her ass and
do all this, and now you're going to try to
accuse her of something, and the second I walk in,
it's a different situation.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Like this week's show. Week swore this tricky and often
very frustrating subject with two of our favorite past guests
up first, None under the Return of the Moose. He'll
tell us how quickly our impressions of strangers can completely
take an utter and complete one eighty. Then we are
once again graced by the returner of the ever charming Jess.
She'll tell us what it's like to be both accused
of and victimized by racism, A real double edged sword,
(01:29):
if you will. All this and more. Right after the
break in this segment, I sit down with the Moose
himself and we tackled a big question such as, uh,
what's up with killer whales? Why is Charles shab a
bad deal? What is korn? And most importantly, what did
that lady just say? Sitting down with the man himself,
(01:49):
the myth, the man, the legend, the Moose.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
I am the moose and I do most reviews, but
we'll talk about that later.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Go Ah, everybody whose ever listens to yourself a favor
YouTube moose reviews, you will not regret it.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
They're brilliant. That's all I got to say.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
He's a humble man. I am very humble, the most
humble man I've ever met. When I was young, I
had dreams, big dreams. I never thought i'd be in
the service industry. But we kind of all have to
do it. You got to make the best of your situation,
and I have. I about I moved to Portland about
(02:30):
four and a half years ago. I thought I could retire.
But you need more than a thousand dollars a month.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
To retire, so in my America, yeah, it's very sad.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Okay, Yeah, I didn't want to live in my car,
and I was looking for some work and I found
this job. What kind of car was, Oh, it's a
nice it's a Prius.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
It's nice.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
No, it's nice, except it's not a big one. No, No,
it's nice. It's got a few dents, but it's excelled,
like eighty six per cell. You know, I get you.
Mine wasn't yet, sir. I did have an eighty six
or Sell.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
Mine was maroon, so his mind oxidizes. I once bought
a Corolla and it was silver, and I went to
earl Ship and I told him to paint it maroon
and they did, but it came out more diarrhea. Brown,
I hate that.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
I also have an earl shipe story. Yeah, we had
a eighty eight Ford Mustang five liters V eight that
that's how he learned to drive manual. It's like the
trickiest clutch. My dad got it in his mind. It
was black, so track real heat. He got his mind like,
you know what, I want to fancy your color. So
he went and he got it painted magenta. Oh, earl shie,
(03:38):
like two hundred bucks.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
The one thing they did, though, wrong, is they taped
off one the driver's side door handle. Yeah, the passenger
side they forgot to tape off. So there's a black
handle and a magenta handle, and it all went oxidized
to shit like literally within four months time.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
That happens.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Don't good earl shipe everybody.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
I won't since you said shit, at least your car
didn't look diarrhea brown.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
This is true. And they say, see you, why did
you pick that guy's I said, it's maroon anyway, anyway,
you're in Portland.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
So I got this job handing food particles out in
the supermarket. And it's not a bad job because I
like to cook. What do you mean by food particles?
Like samples? Yes, samples yes, and I particles. I'm thinking
like you're well, you know going.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Well, they are particles.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
You chop them up a little particles, stick a toothpick
on them, and you stick them in people's mouths.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
And that's why I.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
Stick them in the sometimes I do, you know, let
me get this, Yeah, there you go. There have been
a few seniors who kind of fell open their mouth
and stick the tongue out and they think they're exciting
and I give them food.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
It's it's a little.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Scary, but really old baby birds.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
I often make a sale though the name of the
product is a thing called corn. It's from Cornwall in England, Okay.
And it's frustrating because you say, they've sometimes sent me
over to produce a lot of times I sell corn
and they go over and they put me in produce.
They say, no, no corn, it's corn. It's made with mushrooms, egg,
white powder, onion powder, and it's actually quite good.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
I can see why they're confused, because I'm a little
confused myself with this one.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Life is confusing.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
You'll know, but you just have to go on.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
It's my favorite author of carbonica said we all just
got here.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
That's right. Yeah he did say that. Well, there you
have it.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I get to drop somebody else's knowledge.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
So I set up my booth like it's my stage,
and I cook these particles. I cook them a lot
of olive oil, and I chop up garlic and I
squeeze lemon on them. And the whole market stinks and
people come buy and I feed them and they buy
it because it's good.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
I don't do it for health. I could do it,
and a lot of the people who sell it try
to be healthy in it. You just got to make
it good. I cook for cops. I cook these chicken
kind of corn burgers for cops. I want them to
like me. I was in a movie called Perfume of
the Cyclone. I tell them my brag. I played a
cop in that I say, don't see it because it's dreadful.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Just one that you know, I know what it's like
to be on the job.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
It was shot in South Africa and someone dubbed my
voice when the film was released. So anyway, that being said,
one day I was selling and this very sweet woman
came up to me. She was blonde, she was about
she was she was in her sixties, she was small,
and she was from Copenhagen, Okay, And I thought, oh.
We started talking about I say, ever been Toativoli Gardens?
Speaker 4 (06:26):
We talked about that.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
She seemed really sweet, and then someone from uh, I think, uh,
someone from Italy walked by and I always say like this,
and she said, boy, you don't get more ethnic than that.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
I'm thinking, well, this is just a real charming lady.
I want is it when's the next clan meeting? And
we continued talking and did.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
You actually say when's the next clan meeting?
Speaker 4 (06:54):
That came later?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Okay, because that'd be pretty Johnny on the spot right there.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
This this bills this builds.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
No. No, I've learned, I've learned. I've learned my lesson,
you know, I don't.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
It's a job. It's a gig. They pay me really
well to do this.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
So I'm lucky, I really am, because it's tough out there. Anyway,
I she was eating different particles of corn that had
given her. We got the corn sausages, which she was
corn spelled q u o r i n corn.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
It's like you from your quorn. I'll have some corn
like you're from New York City quan.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
That's how you talk.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
Anyway, she had a taste of that, and then I
another person walked by and she made some horrible comment
and I said to her, I said, you know Italians.
You know there's Leonard da Vinci, there's stead name Renaissance.
And she said that, I don't know how funny your
(07:56):
story this is. No she's said she had been friends
with some black people. Oh congratulations, but she regretted it
and it was a mistake and she learned her lesson.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
Anyway, she started calling me hook nose, and I just
smiled at her, and the more I smiled, the vor
angry she got.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
And I was afraidly war killing her with kindness.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Yes, I just smiled, and she was saying, why are
you smiling, and I just continued to smile because.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
What you're saying is ridiculous and hilarious, and I think
you've used a joke as a human and I'd like
you off this planet. But I'm just going to sit here,
non smile and gather my paycheck. That's what I'm thinking. Yes,
And I said, why don't you go away? And she wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
She kept yelling at me, and I kept smiling at her,
and then I started calling for security, which is ridiculous
because there is no security in the market and no,
and finally I told her to go away. Then I
told her to get away, but I still was smiling.
And then she finally walked away, and she stood about
(09:03):
twenty yards away from me in the meat department holding
a large uh. I think it was a pork roast.
I'm I'm quite sure she was squeezing it.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Well.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
I had my knife, so I figured if she came
out with that.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Pork roast, I was ready to defend myself because that
was a big roast.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
No one wants get assaulted.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
She was little, you know, but you know, a big
pork roast. And I kept thinking, what's going to happen
is I'm going to turn my back and then all
of a sudden, bang in the head, I'm going.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
To get it with that old saying. What does a
form prison said speak softly to carry a huge pork roast?
You were so profound.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
I love that.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
I'm gonna I'm gonna remember that, you know, the next
time some racist woman comes after me.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
You got to have that info.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
So uh, that's pretty much the end of the story.
It took about twenty minutes leave did you get escorted?
I kept looking, and the manager finally came over and
I told her about the pork roast and the late
and but she had gone, and she had left the
pork ross. But I think she left her fingerprints in them,
which was which was a little scary. But you get
(10:09):
that now. And then, you know, we're living in pretty
angry times.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Do you think she purposely so she called you a
hook nose, which is a racial against Jewish piece.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
She just assumed I was Jewish? And did she then
grabbed the pork gross specifically as a Jewish threat. Oh
my goodness, you know that went right over my head.
She's like to be beaten to death by a piece
of pork. There you go, it's a Jewish person. That's
every rabbi's nightmare. Yeah, no, No, I hadn't even thought
(10:41):
about that.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I think the only thing worse is to lose your
son to a poor executed brist involving a pork ross.
That's the only way it could get worse. I think.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
I tell you, that was so traumatic, my son's breasts
and then everybody wants to eat afterwards. I wanted to cry.
Everybody was dancing and singing, and I went to my
room and cried and held on to my penis and
and twitched, and they said he didn't feel anything.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
We gave him some logan, David.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I was going, yeah, is that you? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (11:12):
I love it when they say, oh no, he doesn't
feel it. Yes, I love that he was crying and
screaming when they chopped his penis. So don't tell play
those games with me.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
No.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
When I had my second child, I was thrilled it
was a girl, because I went, please, I'm not going
to do another breask again. I might have a brisket,
but I don't want to do another bresk. It's awful, awful,
it's disgusting, and why do you eat? The child is
in misery and everybody's eating and smiling. No, I would.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Find it hard to to eat after.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
After after bloody. No, It's it's true.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
I don't put the two together where I'm like, oh,
the kid just get his penis. Job. Man, I'm hungry.
I tell get you some waffles. It's weird.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
The more you sell vegetarian meat, though, I got to
tell you, the more you feel guilty about eating meat.
You know, because you see these you see these movies
on YouTube cows they're running and hugging them. They seem nice.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
You know.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
It's uh, who's hugging cows?
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (12:05):
Oh, I've seen them. These cows are like dogs. They
run in the yard, they jump on the bed. Oh
my goodness. Yeah, if you go to India, cows are sacred.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
No, I know that. Yeah, it's a shame.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
You know.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
I used to think, if you had to eat meat,
eat the stupidest piece of meat you could possibly you
know what.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
You got to find them. You're going to find something
really dumb that you could eat, you know, Like, is
that why the dodo bird is extinct? Maybe so maybe
they said it tastes like chicken.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
I don't know. If you season it properly, you know, it's.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
I think there's something like two humans we had to
disconnect about eating meats that are cute before they die.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Yeah, if they're sweet, cute little animals.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
You know, no one's ever looked at a chicken like, oh.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Yeah, adorable? Well do you ever have little little baby chicks?
Are very cute?
Speaker 5 (12:54):
They are, but once they get older they're obnoxial in it.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
But no one's ever eating a penguin because penguins are
adorable from day one to the day.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
They die, unless they're a shark. Shark seed penguins, whales
seed penguins.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah, killer whales are jerks, you know that. Well, they're
kind of the assholes of the sea. Yeah, I'm sorry.
I feel bad about blackfish. I'm not saying like, you know,
did you sea World and abuse them? And did you
ever see kind of dicks?
Speaker 5 (13:20):
Did you ever see him in Namu the killer Whale? Yeah,
that's that was a sweet whale.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
But this whole free willie business and propaganda, so I
don't buy it, Well, I.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
Won't swim with them. So selling corn, it's corn corn,
that's why it's much better. And when it's on sale
it's great, I'm telling you. And now they're coming out
with burgers. All the burgers are terrific, but the best
vegetarian burgers the beyond beef.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Oh, I've heard that. And it's like eating a medium
rare piece of meat. That's the way to cook it.
It's dangerous, exciting and kind of provocative. So go on
power rankings of the corn corn What's what's what's number one?
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Right now?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
It's a number one of the bulleting. Oh, the nuggets.
The nuggets.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
You get fourteen nuggets in a box. You put it
in a little pan. You add olive oil, You squeeze
lemon on a chop up garlic. You turn it so
the lemon and the oil burn into the skin. And
then you get some vegan honey mustard. Okay, every alley mustard.
All the people been eating your chopcolate, your dunk it in.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
It's spectacular. It sounds like it's my upcoming super Bowl snack.
That's what you buy. Boom.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
You'll be the Boom and its crowd food so and
women will find you sensitive and anyone single out there, guys,
it's a nice thing.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
You do this.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
The girls are going to find you more attractive because
you're going to think you're macho and also sensitive at
the same time. And in and dance. Yes, oh my goodness.
Now that I'm old, I think I know these things.
When I was young, I was too stupid. But now,
what's the other famous quote? You has wasted on the young?
Speaker 4 (15:01):
That's a famous quote.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Yeah, I've heard that's Oscar while Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I was onto some things. Yeah, and I think are
on to some things too, my friend. Well, thank you
very much, mister Moose. Check out the most reviews. You
won't regret it. His son Nick has an upcoming podcast,
the one that got brist that we referred to earlier.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
He's gonna love coming on this told I've talked about
his whole life. Yes, I can't wait to meet him.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
All right, cheers, thank you. In this segment, I sit
down with Jess. She has had the uncomfortable pleasure of
experiencing racism both ways throughout her career, being accused of
and being on the receiving end of it. Jess, welcome
back to the studio, even though it's a different studio.
Welcome back.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
That's okay, I think it's great. It's also also I
really like that. People are staring at me as they
walk by.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Oh, it's fun. Everybody seems very very curious. Like I
see mikes, I see headphones.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
What do they do?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
And they can't put it together? It's not that hard,
but I still do the same thing. I walk by
it and I'm like, is that like banking? What are
they doing in there? There's a sailboat on that wall?
What's that mean? I don't know. That's interesting.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I like it. It's cool.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Nice. Well, speaking to judging people something that we've all
had to deal with in industry and especially I'm sorry
to blow the cover off you, but you're a white lady.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
I am, but I'm also not. Okay, I mean I am,
but I'm also half Mexican. Okay, so I can get
I can get kind of brown in the summertime, a
bit darker.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Yeah, it's nice to have options.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Yeah, you know, it just depends on how I feel.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Nice, But unfortunately I have to bring it up because.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
It's I do look like a white lady?
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Yes, yeah, blue eyed devil. Well, sometimes you have to
deal with the racism in the workplace or much more
precisely accused of it. Yes, and it's always awkward. I
deal with a lot of white guilt myself. Like I
remember when I learned about manifest destiny in tenth grade
European history. I was like, we did what I was
(17:12):
not there, guys, not my decision. I'm so sorry, so.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Sorry, come in toe to toe with your own privileges.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Oh how dare I Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it happens a lot. I don't
know what it is with specifically women that are of
different races that don't enjoy my company.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
The ladies be mean to each other, I.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Guess, I mean, I I don't know. I don't know
why they don't appreciate me. I'm a very nice human.
You've known me a long time until you cross me,
and then it gets weird. Then I get angry, you know.
But normally I'm pretty easy going. I keep a lot
of my bad thoughts in my head, you know, I
(17:58):
don't see them out loud. Yeah, I keep it down,
you know. And I keep pretty even keel throughout my shifts,
even when shuld has hit the fan.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
But Multi, I've always known you to be like the
voice of reason, Like when other people are acting over
the top, You're the one that's like guys, calm down.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Serious, right, Like we're bartenders. Like I don't think if
people fully understand what that means. Like we work in
the service industry. We serve people for their money. Like
we're not the CEOs of some fortune five hundred company.
We have a very important job. It doesn't need to
be taken to the next level, you know what I mean,
Wall Street, There's no reason for this, There's no reason
(18:42):
for people to be getting crazy, Like, just pour them
another drink and things will be okay.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
We'll just work it out, move on.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Yeah, But I've been on both sides of the racism scale,
or being accused of being a racist, on both sides.
I was working in this restaurant in San Francisco, uh
for a really long time when I lived up there,
and I we used to have a lot of different
people come in. And it was actually in the tourist
area of San Francisco, so there were a lot of
(19:09):
different kinds of people that would come in because the
tourists all the time, like Fisherman's Warf area.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I lived out there for a minute trying to, yeah,
which spot it could.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Be out in that general vicinity, and there's just like
a lot of stuff coin on there, right, boy, too much,
too much, And there's a lot of different people, and
so it is what it is. And I used to waitresses.
Well I bartended then too, but mostly I would waitress.
And I remember specifically working a shift where I was
actually really busy and I was working with my roommate bartending,
(19:40):
I was serving, and I was with my roommate at
the time. Me and her lived in like a five
like there was like six of us that lived in
a three bedroom house San Francisco. Yeah, so we shared
a room together, right, Like, me and her had beds
across the hall the room from each other. And I
had known her for a long time, we'd work together
for a while. She's a really good friend of mine.
(20:02):
And I ended up walking up to this table and
we were actually both working this shift, which is even
what's more messed up about the whole scenario. And I
had been taking care of these people, no problem, bringing
them anything that I wanted. Well, we had shut down,
the restaurant was done. It was over. No more food,
no more drinks. You know, we're done, right, And this
(20:23):
woman asked me for some more food, and I told her,
I was like, actually, mam, you know.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
The kids, like a catering situation or like no, no, no,
no no.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
She was just sitting at my table and she wanted
more food and the kitchen had already shut down. She
had been sitting there for like down restaurant.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Okay, that's what's confused. It sounds like, okay, that's why
I was a little taken. What what is she doing?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
She just wanted more food, and I was like, man,
I'm sorry, Like the kitchen shut down like an hour ago.
Like I was just letting you sit here, and I
was going to bring you drinks and stuff so you
could hang out while I was cleaning.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
But like, yeah, I got nothing.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
You know, the dudes have gone home in the kitchen,
they're not even here. Like I don't know what to
tell you.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
And I'm a strange lady, right, And.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
She looked at me and she was like, well, you
won't serve me because I'm black. And I was like, no, ma'am,
Like there's no cooks in the kitchen. There is no
one here. I was like, I can go whip with
some eggs, but like I'm not I'm not a cook,
Like I'm not going to make I can't make anyone
I serve you food.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Yeah, at that point, I really was it.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
It's like I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
And I was like, no, ma'am, that's not why. It's
because we have no cooks in the kitchen. That's why
I can't serve you. But I can definitely. And this
woman just goes off and she starts yelling at me.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
So she had to like triple down.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Yeah, yeah, she's chewing me out right. And I can
count on one hand how many times a patron has
made me cry, Like one hand in fifteen mathem. I
don't yeah, I don't have an extra finger, but that's
how many times I can count that I've cried that
someone in the restaurant in she has made me cry
one of my patrons. And this woman just starts braiding me.
(22:05):
I don't even know what she wanted. It was probably
like clam chowder, soup or something stupid, right, and.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
She was this stupid.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
She was just so mad. She was so mad and
yelling at me about me eating white and not allowing
her to have certain things.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
And I was just like, Africa, how dare you?
Speaker 1 (22:28):
And so I just start crying. At this point, my
roommate who I live with, who's working with me. We're
going to call her, Uh, we're gonna call her Megan.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Beautiful.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
We didn't, we didn't. We didn't think this through today.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
We should have it again.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yeah, we should have matched our outfits today too.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
I'm a little blue.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
So she comes over and she is actually an African
American woman, and so she comes up and i'm because
she can see I'm visibly upset. She can see this.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Woman, she can read you. You guys are friends.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
And there's nobody else in the freaking restaurant, right, It's
just us.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
So there's the one lady sitting there braiding you. Yes,
the whole place is empty. Yes, and it's already sketchy.
Let alone. She made you cry, and then she's still
contented to just sit there after she made you cry,
like I ain't going nowhere.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Yeah, like she it was like some sick enjoyment she
found in all of this, Like I don't even know why.
And so my roommate comes over because she sees this
going down, and she's just like very calmly. She looks
at me and she's like, Jess, you need to go
to the back and start cleaning, and I was like, okay,
very calmly as meg.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
And clean cleaning.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
And so I just walk away because I'm like, I
can't even anymore, like I don't know what's happening. And
apparently because I wasn't there for any of this, but
this is all backstory that's told me from my roommate.
She gets up and just starts chewing this woman out. Right.
She's like, I don't know who you think you are.
That is one of my best friends on the planet.
Don't you ever say anything like that to her again.
(24:10):
She has one of the biggest hearts ever. Like she
starts chewing her out. This woman ended up tipping us
like I don't even know she guilted. She guilted us
like fifty or sixty bucks and didn't get her extra
freaking clam chowder or whatever that was. But she just
laid into her and I was like, what if she
wasn't here. I mean, that's messed up though, that like
(24:30):
she had to come and yeah, but she show herself
because I wouldn't give this woman a second plate of food.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
It's not on you or her, It's on the lady
that was domain that played a food right right, and
kudos to your friend for seeing you in trouble and
taking your back and like really just being like, no,
that shit's not real. Yeah, that's not okay, this is
what's right.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
She had my back a lot of the time because
we used to have a lot of weird encounters of
the same kind of arena things that would go down. Yeah,
and she always had my back for stuff like that,
Like she would help me chase people out to catch
them to get money from them. Like she was just
like my role dog in life and at the restaurant.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
I just always find it. It's like sad that, like
you know, at one of the past episodes, interviewing my
friend Ben and he's a large black man and we're homies,
and it's I hate that sometimes I have to be
like do that dumb cardbool where I'm like, oh, no,
all my friends are I have friends that are black.
But it's like no, I do because I'm not racist, right,
(25:35):
But it's the weird like overcompensating argument or if it
just makes you seem more desperate to not be something
that you aren't.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
But I also don't understand it is. But I also
don't understand like why in the restaurant industry, this is
so highlighted. Like, why, all of a sudden, when someone's
serving you food and booze, does this become such an issue?
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Right?
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Like I could be at a movie theater and no
one would be like, oh, you sit next to me
because I'm black, that's not a thing. But as soon
as someone starts to serve you or starts to create
a service in an industry like this, all of a sudden,
that stuff just gets heightened.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
I think it's it's in the term service. Maybe it is,
and it judges up our little gray cloud of American history, right, Yeah,
And I think that that kind of little I don't know,
it's strange. Yeah, I think we all need your too,
and we're all like paranoid right in general on both sides.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
But then also like on the other side of the spectrum,
this has happened to me too. I used to work
at this other bar that was in a very very
white neighborhood place area. I'm not going to use any
kind of slang to describe this area, but we might
all know what I might be talking about.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Suburbs.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Yeah, close, nah, but close.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
I've seen this step for what.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Special it was a special place. It's in California.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Yeah, I've never heard of it.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
It's close to my hometown. It's close to where I
grew up to, Mecula, Marietta.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Oh I down there.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Yeah Empire.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah, but this bar was a specific kind of bar
because there were It's not like.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
No, the Inland Empire. I'm not surprised. Very racist. Yeah,
I spend a lot of time there. I understand.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
It was a special kind of place, like where people
wear all jean dresses.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Oh yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Well, we used to have a.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Town and they drink and PBR is expensive, you know
what I mean, Like that three dollars paps is like
too much. Well that they have to like pass you
a quarter because they just can't you know that.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Yeah, it's good stuff.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
No, I.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Not a fan of the Macula or in an Empire.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
I was a little too brown to work there, so
that was the listener spectrum.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Chess is not very brown at all. I think she
has the same sunburn issues I have to deal with.
It's like a nearly all German dude with a touch
in Norwegian English, you know, really colored up.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
I mean they used to be so mean to me
because and the white the white like blonde haired bartenders.
No problem with them. But as soon as I walked in,
it was like, here comes, here comes the brown girl,
like we're gonna make her do some weird shit today.
It was always like that always. I don't know, it's weird.
(28:30):
It's weird. How the race thing in the service industry exists.
I don't understand it. I ended my job there, but yeah,
there were a lot of people that were very racist
and terrible.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
We used to call them pu cats, what pow cats
because they would always wear even you remember Spy sunglass company. Yeah,
they had their biggest seller, like the wraparounds were called
the cats, okay, and then the poo came from puka shells.
Oh my god, they don't have the cat glasses and
(29:03):
the puka shells pow cat. It guys into the pow cat.
And I worked at Active in Escondido and the other
four locations before Active was like the Walmart of skateboarding. Yeah,
there's only five, and we were in Escondido. We were
the Core shop. The other four were in the Olympire,
and all those guys were fucking posers in terrible and
lame and misogynous assholes, and we would just talk shit
(29:25):
about them and just waltz around talking about poo cats
all day at like the company party once a year.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
That is so funny.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
I do not like them in the empire. They do,
you know, unnotice. That's as far as this podcaster is concerned.
You're on notice.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
I E. Yeah, I got that nine to five one
area code.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
You know that's a terrible sequence in numbers.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Shaking their reads.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
We fore across the table a couple of skinny nerds
and no art and things.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Don't like going to invite me back?
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Oh too bad, don't go back to the mecula. I'm
so sorry for your loss, Moos and Jess. Thanks so
much for your stories once again, can't wait to see
y'all soon. That about wraps it up for us this week.
But before we go, do you have any horse stories
from the service industry. Write me at Jesse at stiffpod
dot com or call us and leave a boy smell
at eight three three four one one four shm SO,
(30:19):
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Please listen, rate, and review. It really does make a
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Speaker 2 (00:02):
Hey folks, I'm Jesse Wood and this is the podcast
Stiff from straw Hut Media. This is the podcast that
dies in the difficult aspects of the service industry. And well,
this week's episode is kind of difficult to introduce. That's
because we're talking about racism in the workplace. Well, we
all know it's a hot button issue. We'll try to
(00:24):
unpack it anyways and attempt to have a few giggles
in between. Have you ever experienced an odd race based
incident while on the job.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
And last night there was an incident. I was working
with this beautiful black girl. I'm me e being this
little white bitch. I can't shake nothing, do nothing, but
she had an opportunity to make some money. This guy,
these two Hispanic men came in. They were real drunk,
and they asked for one hundred dollars in once they
could throw it on her, she danced all over him.
He was grabbing on her booty and all this, and
she came back around the bar and he tried to
accuse her of stealing a hundred dollars bill. And it
(00:52):
was just crazy when he was looking at her saying like.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I know what you people do?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
You people blah blah blah. And as soon as I
stepped in. As soon as I stepped in, he was like, oh, miss,
I'm so I'm sorry, And it just blew my mind,
like you were okay to grab on her ass and
do all this, and now you're going to try to
accuse her of something, and the second I walk in,
it's a different situation.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Like this week's show. Week swore this tricky and often
very frustrating subject with two of our favorite past guests
up first, None under the Return of the Moose. He'll
tell us how quickly our impressions of strangers can completely
take an utter and complete one eighty. Then we are
once again graced by the returner of the ever charming Jess.
She'll tell us what it's like to be both accused
of and victimized by racism, A real double edged sword,
(01:29):
if you will. All this and more. Right after the
break in this segment, I sit down with the Moose
himself and we tackled a big question such as, uh,
what's up with killer whales? Why is Charles shab a
bad deal? What is korn? And most importantly, what did
that lady just say? Sitting down with the man himself,
(01:49):
the myth, the man, the legend, the Moose.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
I am the moose and I do most reviews, but
we'll talk about that later.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Go Ah, everybody whose ever listens to yourself a favor
YouTube moose reviews, you will not regret it.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
They're brilliant. That's all I got to say.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
He's a humble man. I am very humble, the most
humble man I've ever met. When I was young, I
had dreams, big dreams. I never thought i'd be in
the service industry. But we kind of all have to
do it. You got to make the best of your situation,
and I have. I about I moved to Portland about
(02:30):
four and a half years ago. I thought I could retire.
But you need more than a thousand dollars a month.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
To retire, so in my America, yeah, it's very sad.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Okay, Yeah, I didn't want to live in my car,
and I was looking for some work and I found
this job. What kind of car was, Oh, it's a
nice it's a Prius.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
It's nice.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
No, it's nice, except it's not a big one. No, No,
it's nice. It's got a few dents, but it's excelled,
like eighty six per cell. You know, I get you.
Mine wasn't yet, sir. I did have an eighty six
or Sell.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
Mine was maroon, so his mind oxidizes. I once bought
a Corolla and it was silver, and I went to
earl Ship and I told him to paint it maroon
and they did, but it came out more diarrhea. Brown,
I hate that.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
I also have an earl shipe story. Yeah, we had
a eighty eight Ford Mustang five liters V eight that
that's how he learned to drive manual. It's like the
trickiest clutch. My dad got it in his mind. It
was black, so track real heat. He got his mind like,
you know what, I want to fancy your color. So
he went and he got it painted magenta. Oh, earl shie,
(03:38):
like two hundred bucks.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
The one thing they did, though, wrong, is they taped
off one the driver's side door handle. Yeah, the passenger
side they forgot to tape off. So there's a black
handle and a magenta handle, and it all went oxidized
to shit like literally within four months time.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
That happens.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Don't good earl shipe everybody.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
I won't since you said shit, at least your car
didn't look diarrhea brown.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
This is true. And they say, see you, why did
you pick that guy's I said, it's maroon anyway, anyway,
you're in Portland.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
So I got this job handing food particles out in
the supermarket. And it's not a bad job because I
like to cook. What do you mean by food particles?
Like samples? Yes, samples yes, and I particles. I'm thinking
like you're well, you know going.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Well, they are particles.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
You chop them up a little particles, stick a toothpick
on them, and you stick them in people's mouths.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
And that's why I.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
Stick them in the sometimes I do, you know, let
me get this, Yeah, there you go. There have been
a few seniors who kind of fell open their mouth
and stick the tongue out and they think they're exciting
and I give them food.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
It's it's a little.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Scary, but really old baby birds.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
I often make a sale though the name of the
product is a thing called corn. It's from Cornwall in England, Okay.
And it's frustrating because you say, they've sometimes sent me
over to produce a lot of times I sell corn
and they go over and they put me in produce.
They say, no, no corn, it's corn. It's made with mushrooms, egg,
white powder, onion powder, and it's actually quite good.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
I can see why they're confused, because I'm a little
confused myself with this one.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Life is confusing.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
You'll know, but you just have to go on.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
It's my favorite author of carbonica said we all just
got here.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
That's right. Yeah he did say that. Well, there you
have it.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I get to drop somebody else's knowledge.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
So I set up my booth like it's my stage,
and I cook these particles. I cook them a lot
of olive oil, and I chop up garlic and I
squeeze lemon on them. And the whole market stinks and
people come buy and I feed them and they buy
it because it's good.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
I don't do it for health. I could do it,
and a lot of the people who sell it try
to be healthy in it. You just got to make
it good. I cook for cops. I cook these chicken
kind of corn burgers for cops. I want them to
like me. I was in a movie called Perfume of
the Cyclone. I tell them my brag. I played a
cop in that I say, don't see it because it's dreadful.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Just one that you know, I know what it's like
to be on the job.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
It was shot in South Africa and someone dubbed my
voice when the film was released. So anyway, that being said,
one day I was selling and this very sweet woman
came up to me. She was blonde, she was about
she was she was in her sixties, she was small,
and she was from Copenhagen, Okay, And I thought, oh.
We started talking about I say, ever been Toativoli Gardens?
Speaker 4 (06:26):
We talked about that.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
She seemed really sweet, and then someone from uh, I think, uh,
someone from Italy walked by and I always say like this,
and she said, boy, you don't get more ethnic than that.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
I'm thinking, well, this is just a real charming lady.
I want is it when's the next clan meeting? And
we continued talking and did.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
You actually say when's the next clan meeting?
Speaker 4 (06:54):
That came later?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Okay, because that'd be pretty Johnny on the spot right there.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
This this bills this builds.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
No. No, I've learned, I've learned. I've learned my lesson,
you know, I don't.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
It's a job. It's a gig. They pay me really
well to do this.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
So I'm lucky, I really am, because it's tough out there. Anyway,
I she was eating different particles of corn that had
given her. We got the corn sausages, which she was
corn spelled q u o r i n corn.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
It's like you from your quorn. I'll have some corn
like you're from New York City quan.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
That's how you talk.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
Anyway, she had a taste of that, and then I
another person walked by and she made some horrible comment
and I said to her, I said, you know Italians.
You know there's Leonard da Vinci, there's stead name Renaissance.
And she said that, I don't know how funny your
(07:56):
story this is. No she's said she had been friends
with some black people. Oh congratulations, but she regretted it
and it was a mistake and she learned her lesson.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
Anyway, she started calling me hook nose, and I just
smiled at her, and the more I smiled, the vor
angry she got.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
And I was afraidly war killing her with kindness.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Yes, I just smiled, and she was saying, why are
you smiling, and I just continued to smile because.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
What you're saying is ridiculous and hilarious, and I think
you've used a joke as a human and I'd like
you off this planet. But I'm just going to sit here,
non smile and gather my paycheck. That's what I'm thinking. Yes,
And I said, why don't you go away? And she wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
She kept yelling at me, and I kept smiling at her,
and then I started calling for security, which is ridiculous
because there is no security in the market and no,
and finally I told her to go away. Then I
told her to get away, but I still was smiling.
And then she finally walked away, and she stood about
(09:03):
twenty yards away from me in the meat department holding
a large uh. I think it was a pork roast.
I'm I'm quite sure she was squeezing it.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Well.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
I had my knife, so I figured if she came
out with that.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Pork roast, I was ready to defend myself because that
was a big roast.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
No one wants get assaulted.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
She was little, you know, but you know, a big
pork roast. And I kept thinking, what's going to happen
is I'm going to turn my back and then all
of a sudden, bang in the head, I'm going.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
To get it with that old saying. What does a
form prison said speak softly to carry a huge pork roast?
You were so profound.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
I love that.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
I'm gonna I'm gonna remember that, you know, the next
time some racist woman comes after me.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
You got to have that info.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
So uh, that's pretty much the end of the story.
It took about twenty minutes leave did you get escorted?
I kept looking, and the manager finally came over and
I told her about the pork roast and the late
and but she had gone, and she had left the
pork ross. But I think she left her fingerprints in them,
which was which was a little scary. But you get
(10:09):
that now. And then, you know, we're living in pretty
angry times.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Do you think she purposely so she called you a
hook nose, which is a racial against Jewish piece.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
She just assumed I was Jewish? And did she then
grabbed the pork gross specifically as a Jewish threat. Oh
my goodness, you know that went right over my head.
She's like to be beaten to death by a piece
of pork. There you go, it's a Jewish person. That's
every rabbi's nightmare. Yeah, no, No, I hadn't even thought
(10:41):
about that.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I think the only thing worse is to lose your
son to a poor executed brist involving a pork ross.
That's the only way it could get worse. I think.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
I tell you, that was so traumatic, my son's breasts
and then everybody wants to eat afterwards. I wanted to cry.
Everybody was dancing and singing, and I went to my
room and cried and held on to my penis and
and twitched, and they said he didn't feel anything.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
We gave him some logan, David.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I was going, yeah, is that you? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (11:12):
I love it when they say, oh no, he doesn't
feel it. Yes, I love that he was crying and
screaming when they chopped his penis. So don't tell play
those games with me.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
No.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
When I had my second child, I was thrilled it
was a girl, because I went, please, I'm not going
to do another breask again. I might have a brisket,
but I don't want to do another bresk. It's awful, awful,
it's disgusting, and why do you eat? The child is
in misery and everybody's eating and smiling. No, I would.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Find it hard to to eat after.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
After after bloody. No, It's it's true.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
I don't put the two together where I'm like, oh,
the kid just get his penis. Job. Man, I'm hungry.
I tell get you some waffles. It's weird.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
The more you sell vegetarian meat, though, I got to
tell you, the more you feel guilty about eating meat.
You know, because you see these you see these movies
on YouTube cows they're running and hugging them. They seem nice.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
You know.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
It's uh, who's hugging cows?
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (12:05):
Oh, I've seen them. These cows are like dogs. They
run in the yard, they jump on the bed. Oh
my goodness. Yeah, if you go to India, cows are sacred.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
No, I know that. Yeah, it's a shame.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
You know.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
I used to think, if you had to eat meat,
eat the stupidest piece of meat you could possibly you
know what.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
You got to find them. You're going to find something
really dumb that you could eat, you know, Like, is
that why the dodo bird is extinct? Maybe so maybe
they said it tastes like chicken.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
I don't know. If you season it properly, you know, it's.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
I think there's something like two humans we had to
disconnect about eating meats that are cute before they die.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Yeah, if they're sweet, cute little animals.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
You know, no one's ever looked at a chicken like, oh.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Yeah, adorable? Well do you ever have little little baby chicks?
Are very cute?
Speaker 5 (12:54):
They are, but once they get older they're obnoxial in it.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
But no one's ever eating a penguin because penguins are
adorable from day one to the day.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
They die, unless they're a shark. Shark seed penguins, whales
seed penguins.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah, killer whales are jerks, you know that. Well, they're
kind of the assholes of the sea. Yeah, I'm sorry.
I feel bad about blackfish. I'm not saying like, you know,
did you sea World and abuse them? And did you
ever see kind of dicks?
Speaker 5 (13:20):
Did you ever see him in Namu the killer Whale? Yeah,
that's that was a sweet whale.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
But this whole free willie business and propaganda, so I
don't buy it, Well, I.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
Won't swim with them. So selling corn, it's corn corn,
that's why it's much better. And when it's on sale
it's great, I'm telling you. And now they're coming out
with burgers. All the burgers are terrific, but the best
vegetarian burgers the beyond beef.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Oh, I've heard that. And it's like eating a medium
rare piece of meat. That's the way to cook it.
It's dangerous, exciting and kind of provocative. So go on
power rankings of the corn corn What's what's what's number one?
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Right now?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
It's a number one of the bulleting. Oh, the nuggets.
The nuggets.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
You get fourteen nuggets in a box. You put it
in a little pan. You add olive oil, You squeeze
lemon on a chop up garlic. You turn it so
the lemon and the oil burn into the skin. And
then you get some vegan honey mustard. Okay, every alley mustard.
All the people been eating your chopcolate, your dunk it in.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
It's spectacular. It sounds like it's my upcoming super Bowl snack.
That's what you buy. Boom.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
You'll be the Boom and its crowd food so and
women will find you sensitive and anyone single out there, guys,
it's a nice thing.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
You do this.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
The girls are going to find you more attractive because
you're going to think you're macho and also sensitive at
the same time. And in and dance. Yes, oh my goodness.
Now that I'm old, I think I know these things.
When I was young, I was too stupid. But now,
what's the other famous quote? You has wasted on the young?
Speaker 4 (15:01):
That's a famous quote.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Yeah, I've heard that's Oscar while Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I was onto some things. Yeah, and I think are
on to some things too, my friend. Well, thank you
very much, mister Moose. Check out the most reviews. You
won't regret it. His son Nick has an upcoming podcast,
the one that got brist that we referred to earlier.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
He's gonna love coming on this told I've talked about
his whole life. Yes, I can't wait to meet him.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
All right, cheers, thank you. In this segment, I sit
down with Jess. She has had the uncomfortable pleasure of
experiencing racism both ways throughout her career, being accused of
and being on the receiving end of it. Jess, welcome
back to the studio, even though it's a different studio.
Welcome back.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
That's okay, I think it's great. It's also also I
really like that. People are staring at me as they
walk by.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Oh, it's fun. Everybody seems very very curious. Like I
see mikes, I see headphones.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
What do they do?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
And they can't put it together? It's not that hard,
but I still do the same thing. I walk by
it and I'm like, is that like banking? What are
they doing in there? There's a sailboat on that wall?
What's that mean? I don't know. That's interesting.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I like it. It's cool.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Nice. Well, speaking to judging people something that we've all
had to deal with in industry and especially I'm sorry
to blow the cover off you, but you're a white lady.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
I am, but I'm also not. Okay, I mean I am,
but I'm also half Mexican. Okay, so I can get
I can get kind of brown in the summertime, a
bit darker.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Yeah, it's nice to have options.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Yeah, you know, it just depends on how I feel.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Nice, But unfortunately I have to bring it up because.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
It's I do look like a white lady?
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Yes, yeah, blue eyed devil. Well, sometimes you have to
deal with the racism in the workplace or much more
precisely accused of it. Yes, and it's always awkward. I
deal with a lot of white guilt myself. Like I
remember when I learned about manifest destiny in tenth grade
European history. I was like, we did what I was
(17:12):
not there, guys, not my decision. I'm so sorry, so.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Sorry, come in toe to toe with your own privileges.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Oh how dare I Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it happens a lot. I don't
know what it is with specifically women that are of
different races that don't enjoy my company.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
The ladies be mean to each other, I.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Guess, I mean, I I don't know. I don't know
why they don't appreciate me. I'm a very nice human.
You've known me a long time until you cross me,
and then it gets weird. Then I get angry, you know.
But normally I'm pretty easy going. I keep a lot
of my bad thoughts in my head, you know, I
(17:58):
don't see them out loud. Yeah, I keep it down,
you know. And I keep pretty even keel throughout my shifts,
even when shuld has hit the fan.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
But Multi, I've always known you to be like the
voice of reason, Like when other people are acting over
the top, You're the one that's like guys, calm down.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Serious, right, Like we're bartenders. Like I don't think if
people fully understand what that means. Like we work in
the service industry. We serve people for their money. Like
we're not the CEOs of some fortune five hundred company.
We have a very important job. It doesn't need to
be taken to the next level, you know what I mean,
Wall Street, There's no reason for this, There's no reason
(18:42):
for people to be getting crazy, Like, just pour them
another drink and things will be okay.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
We'll just work it out, move on.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Yeah, But I've been on both sides of the racism scale,
or being accused of being a racist, on both sides.
I was working in this restaurant in San Francisco, uh
for a really long time when I lived up there,
and I we used to have a lot of different
people come in. And it was actually in the tourist
area of San Francisco, so there were a lot of
(19:09):
different kinds of people that would come in because the
tourists all the time, like Fisherman's Warf area.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I lived out there for a minute trying to, yeah,
which spot it could.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Be out in that general vicinity, and there's just like
a lot of stuff coin on there, right, boy, too much,
too much, And there's a lot of different people, and
so it is what it is. And I used to waitresses.
Well I bartended then too, but mostly I would waitress.
And I remember specifically working a shift where I was
actually really busy and I was working with my roommate bartending,
(19:40):
I was serving, and I was with my roommate at
the time. Me and her lived in like a five
like there was like six of us that lived in
a three bedroom house San Francisco. Yeah, so we shared
a room together, right, Like, me and her had beds
across the hall the room from each other. And I
had known her for a long time, we'd work together
for a while. She's a really good friend of mine.
(20:02):
And I ended up walking up to this table and
we were actually both working this shift, which is even
what's more messed up about the whole scenario. And I
had been taking care of these people, no problem, bringing
them anything that I wanted. Well, we had shut down,
the restaurant was done. It was over. No more food,
no more drinks. You know, we're done, right, And this
(20:23):
woman asked me for some more food, and I told her,
I was like, actually, mam, you know.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
The kids, like a catering situation or like no, no, no,
no no.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
She was just sitting at my table and she wanted
more food and the kitchen had already shut down. She
had been sitting there for like down restaurant.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Okay, that's what's confused. It sounds like, okay, that's why
I was a little taken. What what is she doing?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
She just wanted more food, and I was like, man,
I'm sorry, Like the kitchen shut down like an hour ago.
Like I was just letting you sit here, and I
was going to bring you drinks and stuff so you
could hang out while I was cleaning.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
But like, yeah, I got nothing.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
You know, the dudes have gone home in the kitchen,
they're not even here. Like I don't know what to
tell you.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
And I'm a strange lady, right, And.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
She looked at me and she was like, well, you
won't serve me because I'm black. And I was like, no, ma'am,
Like there's no cooks in the kitchen. There is no
one here. I was like, I can go whip with
some eggs, but like I'm not I'm not a cook,
Like I'm not going to make I can't make anyone
I serve you food.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Yeah, at that point, I really was it.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
It's like I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
And I was like, no, ma'am, that's not why. It's
because we have no cooks in the kitchen. That's why
I can't serve you. But I can definitely. And this
woman just goes off and she starts yelling at me.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
So she had to like triple down.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Yeah, yeah, she's chewing me out right. And I can
count on one hand how many times a patron has
made me cry, Like one hand in fifteen mathem. I
don't yeah, I don't have an extra finger, but that's
how many times I can count that I've cried that
someone in the restaurant in she has made me cry
one of my patrons. And this woman just starts braiding me.
(22:05):
I don't even know what she wanted. It was probably
like clam chowder, soup or something stupid, right, and.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
She was this stupid.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
She was just so mad. She was so mad and
yelling at me about me eating white and not allowing
her to have certain things.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
And I was just like, Africa, how dare you?
Speaker 1 (22:28):
And so I just start crying. At this point, my
roommate who I live with, who's working with me. We're
going to call her, Uh, we're gonna call her Megan.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Beautiful.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
We didn't, we didn't. We didn't think this through today.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
We should have it again.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yeah, we should have matched our outfits today too.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
I'm a little blue.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
So she comes over and she is actually an African
American woman, and so she comes up and i'm because
she can see I'm visibly upset. She can see this.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Woman, she can read you. You guys are friends.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
And there's nobody else in the freaking restaurant, right, It's
just us.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
So there's the one lady sitting there braiding you. Yes,
the whole place is empty. Yes, and it's already sketchy.
Let alone. She made you cry, and then she's still
contented to just sit there after she made you cry,
like I ain't going nowhere.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Yeah, like she it was like some sick enjoyment she
found in all of this, Like I don't even know why.
And so my roommate comes over because she sees this
going down, and she's just like very calmly. She looks
at me and she's like, Jess, you need to go
to the back and start cleaning, and I was like, okay,
very calmly as meg.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
And clean cleaning.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
And so I just walk away because I'm like, I
can't even anymore, like I don't know what's happening. And
apparently because I wasn't there for any of this, but
this is all backstory that's told me from my roommate.
She gets up and just starts chewing this woman out. Right.
She's like, I don't know who you think you are.
That is one of my best friends on the planet.
Don't you ever say anything like that to her again.
(24:10):
She has one of the biggest hearts ever. Like she
starts chewing her out. This woman ended up tipping us
like I don't even know she guilted. She guilted us
like fifty or sixty bucks and didn't get her extra
freaking clam chowder or whatever that was. But she just
laid into her and I was like, what if she
wasn't here. I mean, that's messed up though, that like
(24:30):
she had to come and yeah, but she show herself
because I wouldn't give this woman a second plate of food.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
It's not on you or her, It's on the lady
that was domain that played a food right right, and
kudos to your friend for seeing you in trouble and
taking your back and like really just being like, no,
that shit's not real. Yeah, that's not okay, this is
what's right.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
She had my back a lot of the time because
we used to have a lot of weird encounters of
the same kind of arena things that would go down. Yeah,
and she always had my back for stuff like that,
Like she would help me chase people out to catch
them to get money from them. Like she was just
like my role dog in life and at the restaurant.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
I just always find it. It's like sad that, like
you know, at one of the past episodes, interviewing my
friend Ben and he's a large black man and we're homies,
and it's I hate that sometimes I have to be
like do that dumb cardbool where I'm like, oh, no,
all my friends are I have friends that are black.
But it's like no, I do because I'm not racist, right,
(25:35):
But it's the weird like overcompensating argument or if it
just makes you seem more desperate to not be something
that you aren't.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
But I also don't understand it is. But I also
don't understand like why in the restaurant industry, this is
so highlighted. Like, why, all of a sudden, when someone's
serving you food and booze, does this become such an issue?
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Right?
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Like I could be at a movie theater and no
one would be like, oh, you sit next to me
because I'm black, that's not a thing. But as soon
as someone starts to serve you or starts to create
a service in an industry like this, all of a sudden,
that stuff just gets heightened.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
I think it's it's in the term service. Maybe it is,
and it judges up our little gray cloud of American history, right, Yeah,
And I think that that kind of little I don't know,
it's strange. Yeah, I think we all need your too,
and we're all like paranoid right in general on both sides.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
But then also like on the other side of the spectrum,
this has happened to me too. I used to work
at this other bar that was in a very very
white neighborhood place area. I'm not going to use any
kind of slang to describe this area, but we might
all know what I might be talking about.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Suburbs.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Yeah, close, nah, but close.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
I've seen this step for what.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Special it was a special place. It's in California.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Yeah, I've never heard of it.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
It's close to my hometown. It's close to where I
grew up to, Mecula, Marietta.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Oh I down there.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Yeah Empire.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah, but this bar was a specific kind of bar
because there were It's not like.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
No, the Inland Empire. I'm not surprised. Very racist. Yeah,
I spend a lot of time there. I understand.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
It was a special kind of place, like where people
wear all jean dresses.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Oh yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Well, we used to have a.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Town and they drink and PBR is expensive, you know
what I mean, Like that three dollars paps is like
too much. Well that they have to like pass you
a quarter because they just can't you know that.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Yeah, it's good stuff.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
No, I.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Not a fan of the Macula or in an Empire.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
I was a little too brown to work there, so
that was the listener spectrum.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Chess is not very brown at all. I think she
has the same sunburn issues I have to deal with.
It's like a nearly all German dude with a touch
in Norwegian English, you know, really colored up.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
I mean they used to be so mean to me
because and the white the white like blonde haired bartenders.
No problem with them. But as soon as I walked in,
it was like, here comes, here comes the brown girl,
like we're gonna make her do some weird shit today.
It was always like that always. I don't know, it's weird.
(28:30):
It's weird. How the race thing in the service industry exists.
I don't understand it. I ended my job there, but yeah,
there were a lot of people that were very racist
and terrible.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
We used to call them pu cats, what pow cats
because they would always wear even you remember Spy sunglass company. Yeah,
they had their biggest seller, like the wraparounds were called
the cats, okay, and then the poo came from puka shells.
Oh my god, they don't have the cat glasses and
(29:03):
the puka shells pow cat. It guys into the pow cat.
And I worked at Active in Escondido and the other
four locations before Active was like the Walmart of skateboarding. Yeah,
there's only five, and we were in Escondido. We were
the Core shop. The other four were in the Olympire,
and all those guys were fucking posers in terrible and
lame and misogynous assholes, and we would just talk shit
(29:25):
about them and just waltz around talking about poo cats
all day at like the company party once a year.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
That is so funny.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
I do not like them in the empire. They do,
you know, unnotice. That's as far as this podcaster is concerned.
You're on notice.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
I E. Yeah, I got that nine to five one
area code.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
You know that's a terrible sequence in numbers.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Shaking their reads.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
We fore across the table a couple of skinny nerds
and no art and things.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Don't like going to invite me back?
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Oh too bad, don't go back to the mecula. I'm
so sorry for your loss, Moos and Jess. Thanks so
much for your stories once again, can't wait to see
y'all soon. That about wraps it up for us this week.
But before we go, do you have any horse stories
from the service industry. Write me at Jesse at stiffpod
dot com or call us and leave a boy smell
at eight three three four one one four shm SO,
(30:19):
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