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Australian rock legend Ross Wilson opens up in this fascinating backstage conversation just moments before taking the stage on his record-breaking "50 Years of Hits" tour. With the tour expanding to over 150 shows, this marks the most extensive touring schedule of his 60-year career—proving that retirement isn't in his vocabulary.
From humble beginnings in Melbourne church choirs to forming iconic bands, Ross shares the pivotal moments that shaped his extraordinary journey. He reveals how Daddy Cool emerged from his experimental band Sons of the Vegetal Mother, becoming the surprise hit of the 1971 Myponga Festival before they'd even released a record. Their pioneering music video for "Eagle Rock," filmed at this festival, helped propel them to nationwide success—years before MTV made music videos essential.
Beyond his performing career, Ross offers insights into his work as a producer, including discovering and producing Skyhooks, whose success eventually surpassed Daddy Cool's record-breaking sales. Though selective about production work, his golden touch extended to working with Jo Jo Zep and The Falcons, The Screaming Jets, and writing hits for other artists—including "Touch of Paradise" for John Farnham and "I Come In Peace" for Joe Cocker's final recording.
The conversation takes unexpected turns through Ross's television appearances, his induction into the ARIA Hall of Fame (twice!), and the peculiar pants-dropping tradition that accompanies "Eagle Rock" at weddings and parties across Australia, revealing plans for attempting a world-record charity event around this unique phenomenon.
Despite his legendary status, Ross remains refreshingly grounded. His latest blues EP tackles modern social media addiction, showing his continued relevance while honoring his musical roots. As he continues selling out venues with his band The Peaceniks, it's clear that after six decades, Ross Wilson isn't just still rocking it—he's reaching new heights.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
That Radio Cheek Cheryl Lee here.
Welcome to the Still Rocking itpodcast, where we'll have music
news, reviews and interviewswith some of our favourite
Australian musicians and artists.
The legend that is Ross Wilsoncame to our town yesterday and I
interviewed him for the tellyas part of our legend series for
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Ryder TV at the venue.
Due to overwhelming populardemand, ross Wilson's 50 Years
of Hits tour extends into thisyear and to over 150 shows,
making it the biggest tour ofhis career.
This year marks an incredible60 years since his first local
Melbourne hit single, louieLouie, by his first band, the
(00:44):
Pink Thinks.
Ross and his all-star band thePeace Sneaks continue touring
relentlessly.
We chatted to him just before hewent on stage for his Now
Listen, we're Steppin' Out 50Years of Hits tour.
To catch up on podcasts fromother favourite artists, simply
go to thatradiochickcomau.
I'm rollingcomau.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I'm rolling.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Okay, awesome, I'll give you a clap, the usual three
seconds.
All right, welcome to Rider TV.
You're here with Cheryl Lee,that Radio, chick and Ross
Andrew Wilson, hi there.
Thank you for joining us today.
We are really authentic tonight.
We're between the green roomand the stage.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
That's right.
We're right on the cusp ofwhere it's all happening.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
We've just had soundcheck.
You guys are going on in alittle while.
You rocked Goulwa last night.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
We did.
We played at a fantastic oldhall there called Centenary Hall
, which has now been modernised,and about two years ago ago we
realised that out in theregional areas there are all
these great art centres andtheatres that have been built.
So we've started to put on ourlist of things to do and we'll
be going all over the country.
But as well as that, you know,we do the full-on rock shows at
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pubs and clubs, but the theatrething's really interesting
because you you reach a lot ofpeople who don't necessarily go
out to see rock shows and butthey want to sit down and be
comfortable and all that.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
But you know, we get out there and do our thing I
reckon you'll rock the roof offthe bridge wave tonight and then
tomorrow night.
No rest for the wicked.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
You're off to big easy radio well, it's in the
afternoon, it's a winery down ataldinga and uh, and then we we
play in the afternoon, then wejump on a plane and go home,
live in melbourne well we, we'veonly got half an hour.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
How are we going to fit 50-plus years into half an
hour?
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yeah well, there's a lot of gigs.
I can't talk about all of them.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
But I thought we might quickly go back before we
sort of go forward.
And I'm just wondering, ross ismusic in your DNA?
Are you from a musical family?
When did you realise that thiswas your thing?
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Well, I guess there was a bit of influence from my
parents.
There was always music aroundthe house.
Some of it was my mother.
Actually she was quite a goodpianist and a very good violin
player and a trained singer likechoral work, so she would
always.
She ended up as a housewifebecause the wars kind of got in
the way of some of her ambitionsthe second war I'm talking
about, and I think maybe sheprojected that onto me a bit and
my brother.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
She didn't even like curiously through you.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Well, yeah maybe, but she was very smart.
She took us along too.
She would join whatever churchchoir she thought was the best
in the area.
It didn't matter what thereligion was.
So we ended up being in thechurch choir at Holy Trinity in
Hampton, victoria suburb ofMelbourne, and that's where I
think I learned to singharmonies a bit better.
You know, you've got to stickto your own part, and all that.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Keep it in your lane.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
At the same time I was just listening to what was
on the radio and my dad wouldplay a lot of jazz music.
He was a jazz fan and he had atrumpet and he played the
trumpet and all that kind ofstuff.
So yeah, to answer yourquestion, I think some of that
rubbed off on me.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
And was there ever a plan B if this music thing
hadn't worked out for you?
Or was this it?
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Well, it was kind of it because in my final year at
secondary school, that's when Igot in my first band, it was
just a bunch of neighbourhoodkids, one from my school, my
buddy who played the drums,richard, and some guys from
Brighton High down the road, andwe were playing.
I played at Jamming with someother young band.
I was playing at Harmonica, youknow, playing a bit of bluesy
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stuff, and these young guys said, oh, we want to play that kind
of music.
Can you sing?
And I said, yeah, I can sing.
So I ended up going off to RossHannaford's Garage the
following week and suddenly Iwas in a band.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
And the rest is history.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Well, yeah, I got sucked in and we didn't write
our own songs at that stage.
But as time went by and I leftschool and we continued on
playing with bands and I startedto write my own songs.
I was working as a clerk forthe government and I had plenty
of time.
I had my own phone andscribbling down lyrics for when
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I was go home and then work themout.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
You are listening to Still Rocking it.
The podcast with Cheryl Lee.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
I think there are a total of three recordings of
songs by Sons of the VegetableMother.
Here's one of them I've trackeddown.
Make it begin, and then we'reback to Be a Fire on the Wall
again at the televisioninterview with the legendary
Ross Wilson and find out alittle bit about this band that
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ultimately morphed into DaddyCool.
Oh, I'm just trying to see youfriend.
Try and see your friend.
I love the Adelaide, the SouthAustralian connection, because
we were just talking to ourcameraman who was at your first
concert in.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Adelaide, at Glenelg.
Yeah, we had been playing asort of underground band I had
called Sons of the VegetalMother.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
It was a pretty wild band.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
I really liked it, but it was quite large and we
only played these particulargigs that they put on once a
month.
And I said to three of themembers which was Gary on drums
and Wayne on the bass and RossHannaford on guitar I said,
let's do this side project, havea bit of fun, sing some old R&B
, got a couple of songs here andas soon as we started playing
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as a four-piece it was like whoa, this is great, you know, and
we could all sing.
So we had the bass voice ofRoss Hannaford and we could sing
all this doo-woppy stuff andplus the things we wrote
ourselves.
And the Sons of Asian Motherwere booked to play at the
Aquarius Blues Festival run byAlex Inacenti, who's still
around, and we had anotherbooking coming up at an
underground dance in MelbourneTF Match Ballroom.
(06:24):
So let's do an off-Broadwayperformance.
I think our name was on the bill, but that was the first time
Daddy Cool actually performed inpublic.
I think it was October 1970.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
And then in the 71, Maiponga.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
With Maiponga.
We came back we still hadn'treleased a record but there was
a big buzz around Daddy Cool inMelbourne and that filtered
through and my ponga, which was,you know, quite a large outdoor
festival.
Yeah, I couldn't easily say Ithink we were the hit of the
festival yeah well, it'sinteresting though, you know, if
you look at the eagle rock filmclip, which still gets played,
there's all this footage of aset of festival.
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Well, that was my ponga, and wehadn't even released a record,
but a friend of ours, who was abudding filmmaker, was following
us around and taking that rawfootage.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
You were ahead of your time.
And then we MTV.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Well, we didn't even realise that.
No, you know, and it wasn'tuntil later on, only a couple of
years later, when, you know,countdown took off and Video
clip came, video became thecurrency, you know, and I went
gee, maybe that film clip hadsomething to do with us going to
number one, because it wasshown all around Australia and
that was the key to the wholething, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
I don't think the R word is in your vocabulary.
You've got 30-plus datesVictoria News, fao, tasi, wa
Monday.
Monday in August.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Are you talking about retirement?
No, no, I don't have any Rockthe boat.
I can't see that happening.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Do you ever rest?
Speaker 3 (07:49):
We're in a pretty big role at the moment.
My band, the Peacenicks, whoare all excellent musicians and
you know, make me sound good andwe have a lot of fun together
and we rock.
You know we rock hard.
We're not that polite, you knowgood music going hard for it,
selling out more shows than everbefore, so there's no reason to
(08:10):
you know we're not struggling.
Let me say that you know solike we're going to continue on
playing these regional dates andall the capital cities and if
you go to my website,rosswilsoncomau, you'll see a
huge list of gigs that's gettingadded to all the time.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I think you're one of the few artists who can't say
that you're going to have acomeback, because you've never,
actually ever stopped.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
No, I never stopped.
Really I was a little bit of abreak.
But I didn't retire in the 90swhen my marriage to the bop girl
, pat Wilson we fell apart,fortunately, and I sort of
didn't have as muchresponsibility.
So I was going off and writingwith other people and I wrote a
bunch of stuff with Jimmy Barnesand he was selling lots of
albums and John Farnham did someof my songs, and so I was
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making a living out of music andoccasionally doing shows, and
then, as time went by, wandaRock had broken up as well, but
I was sort of doing the oddthing and then gradually got my
solo career happening andplaying all the time.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
So that's what happened, because you were
pretty all-rounder really,because you have also a great
career as a producer.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Yeah well, I did have .
My biggest thing was producingSkyworks, because I found them
and I was obsessed with gettingtheir songs out there.
I said the world's got to hearthis music and I could hear
things I could help with themwith, you know, in my head.
So we formed a greatrelationship and I became their
producer and they went on tosmash sales records that Daddy
Cool had before.
But they put it through theroof so like that was my big
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thing.
But I wasn't a producer, Ididn't.
It wasn't a thing I wanted todo all the time, it was only if
I thought I could bringsomething to the project.
You know I wasn't like a gunfor hire, no, and so I do it a
lot less.
Now.
Sometimes people ask me for abit of advice.
I had some input on a great.
I was a really good singer andblues guitarist, lucia Louise,
(09:54):
who just put out a single calledOne man, that myself and James
Black, who used to play withMondo Rock, now with the Black
Sorrows, we had a fair bit to dowith shaping that.
And so when I'm asked and Ithink that I can add, something
I do it, but you know.
It was nice that Skyhooks was sosuccessful.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
And you also, like I said, worked with Jojo Zip
producing and.
And you also, like I said,worked with Jojo Zip producing
and the Screaming Jets as well.
I did one of their albums.
Yeah, Still rocking thatpodcast with that radio chick,
Cheryl Lee.
Over 52 years ago Ross Wilsonhad a gig at Melbourne Uni.
Arrived early, He'd never heardof the Night Support Band but
decided to check them out.
He says they started playingall these funny songs and I just
(10:34):
thought it was hilarious.
They were very rough, which Ikind of liked, but the riffs
came through the roughness.
So Ross Hannaford and RossWilson went backstage.
Hannaford offered Freddie thedrummer a Camel Non Filter
cigarette and Wilson offered thebass player, Greg McKeish, a
publishing deal.
Here is one of those hilarioussongs now from that 1974 album.
(10:59):
You Just Like Me Cause I'm Goodin Bed.
And then back to speak to theman who produced it, Ross the
Boss Wilson, very shortly.
Hi, I'm Bum Bum.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
O'Starky from that illustrious band, the Skyhawks,
and you're with Cheryl Lee, thatradio chick.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Johnny Farnham took one of your Mondo Rock songs.
He did yeah, he blew it out ofthe water.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
We're talking about A Touch of Paradise which was
actually the very first songever written for Mondo Rock, but
it took us a while to get roundto doing a version in the
studio.
Quite frankly, the Mondo Rockversion is okay, but I was never
that happy with it.
So when Barnum got it and madeit his own because he changed
the arrangement quitesubstantially, and out of the
various versions that I've beenwitness to and part of, I've now
(11:52):
got a new one, a new version ofmy own, that's, once again,
again quite different, and we'reprobably going to play it
tonight.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Touch of Paradise Excellent, the composer's
version, oh, you heard it firsthere and you've also done some
other.
You know out-of-the-box thingsIn 05, you were a judge on.
It Takes Two.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Well, that was one of the weirdest things, you know.
I never thought I'd be like aguy on tv, on a panel, but I
went for three seasons and Igotta say I did learn quite a
bit out of that.
You know how to go for it andsay what you thought, and I was
sort of one of the nice judgesyeah, you weren't kyle, no, I
was trying to you give them aconstructive advice, which was
wasn't always possible.
It was, uh, you know, the prizemoney would go to charities and
all that was like celebritieswith tutors.
It's like dancing with thestars, except vocalists, right,
(12:39):
yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:40):
and then there was your big break on Neighbours.
Oh yeah well, Neighbours?
Speaker 3 (12:43):
yeah, I have a long history with Neighbours because
prior to my current marriagewhich we've been married to,
being together with Tanya for 30years and got a couple kids,
but before that I had a I had alovely girlfriend, lovely
girlfriend and she was part ofthe casting crew at Neighbours.
So I was going in there all thetime, pick her up and say hi to
(13:04):
everyone and you know, see allthe people coming and going.
And then lo and behold mystepdaughter's big sister, Holly
.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
The lad's got a role there, I'm going oh, that's
interesting.
So it was nepotism really Well,no, no I didn't have any say,
but I was able to give a littlebit of background.
Now you going on was nepotism,yeah, later on it was.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
And then you know, Olympia ended up there for quite
a few years and on her lastscene that she had when she was
going off to do other things andquitting Neighbours temporarily
neighbours temporarily I had awalk on as myself had a few
lines.
Well, learning the lines is thehardest part, but I had done
some really terrible Z-grademovies where I had to learn
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pages of terrible dialogue, so Ihad an insight into that.
Just relax, learn the lines.
They walked me through it a fewtimes and, hey, it turned out
all right, you know.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
You are listening to Still Rocking it.
The podcast with Cheryl Lee.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Let's play a touch of paradise.
Of course John Farnham had amassive hit with it, but we're
going to have the Mondo Rockversion from 1982, their
greatest hits album.
And then we're back to hearabout Rossoss's induction into
the aria hall of fame as wecontinue to be a fly on the wall
during our tv interview at thegig before his show and all I do
(14:27):
is look into your eyes for thatspecial touch of paradise I
just wanted to congratulate youon your in 1989, your individual
into the ARIA Hall of Fame yeah, well done.
And then in 2006 with Daddy Cool.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
With Daddy.
Cool yeah, that was a big deal.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
I think it was.
You know, daddy Cool beingrecognised was a good thing.
A little bit overdue, yeah.
But the thing with ARIA and I'mnot trying to pick on them or
anything like that, butAustralian Record Industry
Awards.
So they tend to nominate peoplefor the various things if
they've got the product and theywant to sell it.
Now I'm going to be going alongto be a part of the APRA Awards
.
Now, the APRA Awards are theAustralian Performing Rights
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Association and the Songs of theYear are voted for by other
songwriters.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
So it's got a lot more.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
To me it's not shonky at all and my daughter, athena,
is a part of a band called GutHealth.
Remember that band, gut Healtheverybody.
They're kind of big.
Watch this space.
They're playing in Queenslandat the moment.
They've been touring in Europe.
So, yeah, gut Health.
And she's going to be appearingat the APRA Awards at the end
(15:39):
of April, so I'm looking forwardto going to that.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Awesome, another feather in your cap.
The late great Joe Cocker tookyour song I Come In Peace.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Well, he did.
It was a song I wrote with RickBrewster from the Angels right
here in Adelaide, and he said wewrote a couple of songs
together and I Come In Peace Iooh, I really like this song.
I'm going to keep it for myself.
But it took a few years and Ifinally did an album and it was
the title track andwell-produced, a great song.
And Joe Cocker's manager wasRoger Davies, who's an
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Australian guy Used to beSherbert's roadie that's how he
started out and then became amanager and Sherbets Roadie
that's how he started out andthen became a manager and he was
the guy that turned TinaTurner's career around.
He also Sade and a bunch ofpeople, I think Pink.
Oh, I think he was lookingafter Pink and he was looking
after Joe Cocker and he said toJoe I think he saw the video of
(16:30):
I Come In Peace.
He goes, hang on.
Russell Wilson has written thissong.
You Should Do it and it took, Ithink, two albums before it
finally got on.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
It's a great version.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
And there's good footage of him.
There's a couple of videos ofhim doing it and he did a big
tour.
It was huge and still huge inGermany when he released that
album and he was doing a tour ofabout 80 dates or something and
he was opening every show withOur song I come in peace, which
once song I Come in Peace, which, once again, I'm going to sing
tonight.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yay, but sadly it turned out it was his final
single Because we lost him inthe December, but it was a bit
of a hit in Europe.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
So that was really nice to have someone of his
stature.
I don't know.
Rick Brewster felt the same waytoo.
In fact, rick was so impressedwith both versions that the
Angels did a version too.
Yes, that's on one of theiralbums.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Yeah, there you go.
So, speaking of the angels,yeah, you know, aussies tend to
do this sort of thing like am Iever going to see your face
again?
Speaker 3 (17:25):
oh, yeah yeah, now you've got an actual physical
just like the angels that whenthey first heard that chant.
Remember, you're going to seethat they go.
What do we do wrong?
Why are they?
Why are they swearing at us?
You know, and it turned outthere was this thing in mount
isa.
They were in mount isa and thedj was the one who sort of get
the people to do it so did thathappen?
Speaker 1 (17:47):
now it's gone nationwide.
Well, yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
I wasn't aware of this thing, where it occurred
and I think it was a queenslanduniversity claimed they started
it and it's spread all over thenation.
It's when Eagle Rock is played,not necessarily by me, but made
the record in a pub or awedding.
Particularly at 21st andweddings and all that.
The guys drop their pants, nottheir undies, not their boxers,
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just their regular pants anddance around their, around their
ankles right it's such anawesome thing first time I heard
it was sometime in the 90s.
Right, I'm going.
Well, this is weird and it wasbefore the internet had really
become blown up, so they can seeit all over the place and it's
a big thing.
But we've got a plan to go forthe world, for charity, go for
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the world record of pantsdropping.
Oh and and you might hear anannouncement about that soon I'm
not divulging where it is yetbecause it hasn't been locked in
, but it'll be pretty easy toget the world record because no
one's ever.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Yeah there's zero.
Yeah, that's right.
You could have like a hundredguys or something.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
But I think we're going for like trying to get a
couple of thousand people.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Oh, I reckon I might know where it is, because
there's a place where lots ofrecords are attempted and broken
yeah, yeah, well, yes, anyway,yeah yeah all righty, it's a
mystery, but you can probablyguess still rocking that podcast
with that radio chick, cheryllee.
I'm going to play joe cocker'sbeautiful version of I come in
peace.
And then we're back to saygoodbye to ross wilson and give
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him a few minutes betweensoundcheck and having to go back
on stage now with the peacesneaks at the Bridgeway as we
film him for Ryder TV on Channel44 and 31.
You see, me coming.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
You feel like running .
That wicked look is in youreyes that brings us to 2023.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
The latest hit, latest single.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Yeah, I did an EP and it was harking back to my early
days where I got in my firstband and played the harmonica,
so I wanted to play a bit morebluesy stuff.
I've got four songs on it andthe title track is she's Stuck
on Facebook All the Time, whichis a blues about social media.
You know, not necessarilyfacebook per se, but it mentions
a couple of others as well.
(20:06):
You know, mentioned well, italready got outdated.
It meant twitter, yeah.
No, I was really annoyed withmy friends, so when I'm seeing
it live now, I don't say twitter, I say tick tock, yeah, okay,
so we believe there's facebook,there's tick tock, there's Insta
and are you going to play thattonight?
Speaker 1 (20:22):
And?
Speaker 3 (20:22):
it's the whole point of it is like the distraction
means that I get stuck onFacebook all the time.
Ain't got no time for loving.
It's always checking up on allthe friends.
So that's my little dig atsocial media.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
That's a true blues song.
Yeah, lamenting.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Well, that's the thing there's so many blues
songs about.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
I'm not getting enough love.
That's all important, justanother facet.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
But I've got to say I'm not trying to nail women
about this.
It's just because I would lovea woman to record the answer to
it and say he's stuck onFacebook all the time.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
And you're playing that tonight.
Yeah, I think we will.
Awesome, I think our half anhour is nearly up and I want you
to have a little bit of a breakyeah, yeah, I gotta work on
this yeah, before you start, I'mgonna ask you one more question
, um, have you got anon-negotiable on your rider
that you have to have or you'renot going on?
Speaker 3 (21:11):
not really.
No, look, I'm really easy going.
I don't go for that kind ofstuff.
You know, that's my band and Igo no moments.
No, no, no, it was all in thepast.
We're mature now Live and learn.
We've grown up now.
My thing is like I don't wantany bumps.
I don't want any.
We just want to get on stageand have a good time and do our
thing, you know.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Well, awesome, I'm going to let you do that.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
There's no mind games going on.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
So much.
All the best for the rest ofthe tour, and I don't think
you're stopping to after Money,money and Rock the Boat.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Well, I do have a break in between Money, money
and Rock the Boat, and that's athing I do every year.
We usually take off August,september, around then, and my
wife's family are originallyfrom Greece and we go off to
Greece and then a few otherplaces and we have a great time
and come back with batteriescharged, and one of the reasons
we do that time is becauseeveryone's so obsessed with
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footy that, unless you get somefooty gigs like September you
can pretty well wipe out, youknow.
So we take that opportunity togo out.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Good on you.
Well, enjoy that, and I'll seeyou down the front sometime soon
.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Thank you.
Yeah, put your dancer shoes on.
See you Cut.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I'll, yeah, put your dancer shoes on.
Yeah, see you Cut, I'm going toget your mic off.
Yeah, you are listening toStill Rocking it.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
The podcast with Cheryl Lee here it is To take us
out the lover's lament.
She's stuck on Facebook all thetime, hey Fallon.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Yeah, you know, I got the blues, oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
You know what the number one cause of the blues is
?
What Not?
You know what the number onecause of the blues is Not
getting enough loving.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
You're with Cheryl Lee that radio chick.
Thank you so much for joiningme on the Still Rocking it
podcast.
Hope to catch you again nexttime.
Get out when you can supportAussie music and I'll see you
down the front.
That Radio Cheek Cheryl Lee here.
Welcome to the Still Rocking itpodcast, where we'll have music
news, reviews and interviewswith some of our favourite
Australian musicians and artists.
The legend that is Ross Wilsoncame to our town yesterday and I
interviewed him for the tellyas part of our legend series for
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Ryder TV at the venue.
Due to overwhelming populardemand, ross Wilson's 50 Years
of Hits tour extends into thisyear and to over 150 shows,
making it the biggest tour ofhis career.
This year marks an incredible60 years since his first local
Melbourne hit single, louieLouie, by his first band, the
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Pink Thinks.
Ross and his all-star band thePeace Sneaks continue touring
relentlessly.
We chatted to him just before hewent on stage for his Now
Listen, we're Steppin' Out 50Years of Hits tour.
To catch up on podcasts fromother favourite artists, simply
go to thatradiochickcomau.
I'm rollingcomau.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I'm rolling.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Okay, awesome, I'll give you a clap, the usual three
seconds.
All right, welcome to Rider TV.
You're here with Cheryl Lee,that Radio, chick and Ross
Andrew Wilson, hi there.
Thank you for joining us today.
We are really authentic tonight.
We're between the green roomand the stage.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
That's right.
We're right on the cusp ofwhere it's all happening.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
We've just had soundcheck.
You guys are going on in alittle while.
You rocked Goulwa last night.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
We did.
We played at a fantastic oldhall there called Centenary Hall
, which has now been modernised,and about two years ago ago we
realised that out in theregional areas there are all
these great art centres andtheatres that have been built.
So we've started to put on ourlist of things to do and we'll
be going all over the country.
But as well as that, you know,we do the full-on rock shows at
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pubs and clubs, but the theatrething's really interesting
because you you reach a lot ofpeople who don't necessarily go
out to see rock shows and butthey want to sit down and be
comfortable and all that.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
But you know, we get out there and do our thing I
reckon you'll rock the roof offthe bridge wave tonight and then
tomorrow night.
No rest for the wicked.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
You're off to big easy radio well, it's in the
afternoon, it's a winery down ataldinga and uh, and then we we
play in the afternoon, then wejump on a plane and go home,
live in melbourne well we, we'veonly got half an hour.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
How are we going to fit 50-plus years into half an
hour?
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yeah well, there's a lot of gigs.
I can't talk about all of them.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
But I thought we might quickly go back before we
sort of go forward.
And I'm just wondering, ross ismusic in your DNA?
Are you from a musical family?
When did you realise that thiswas your thing?
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Well, I guess there was a bit of influence from my
parents.
There was always music aroundthe house.
Some of it was my mother.
Actually she was quite a goodpianist and a very good violin
player and a trained singer likechoral work, so she would
always.
She ended up as a housewifebecause the wars kind of got in
the way of some of her ambitionsthe second war I'm talking
about, and I think maybe sheprojected that onto me a bit and
my brother.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
She didn't even like curiously through you.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Well, yeah maybe, but she was very smart.
She took us along too.
She would join whatever churchchoir she thought was the best
in the area.
It didn't matter what thereligion was.
So we ended up being in thechurch choir at Holy Trinity in
Hampton, victoria suburb ofMelbourne, and that's where I
think I learned to singharmonies a bit better.
You know, you've got to stickto your own part, and all that.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Keep it in your lane.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
At the same time I was just listening to what was
on the radio and my dad wouldplay a lot of jazz music.
He was a jazz fan and he had atrumpet and he played the
trumpet and all that kind ofstuff.
So yeah, to answer yourquestion, I think some of that
rubbed off on me.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
And was there ever a plan B if this music thing
hadn't worked out for you?
Or was this it?
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Well, it was kind of it because in my final year at
secondary school, that's when Igot in my first band, it was
just a bunch of neighbourhoodkids, one from my school, my
buddy who played the drums,richard, and some guys from
Brighton High down the road, andwe were playing.
I played at Jamming with someother young band.
I was playing at Harmonica, youknow, playing a bit of bluesy
(04:10):
stuff, and these young guys said, oh, we want to play that kind
of music.
Can you sing?
And I said, yeah, I can sing.
So I ended up going off to RossHannaford's Garage the
following week and suddenly Iwas in a band.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
And the rest is history.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Well, yeah, I got sucked in and we didn't write
our own songs at that stage.
But as time went by and I leftschool and we continued on
playing with bands and I startedto write my own songs.
I was working as a clerk forthe government and I had plenty
of time.
I had my own phone andscribbling down lyrics for when
(04:45):
I was go home and then work themout.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
You are listening to Still Rocking it.
The podcast with Cheryl Lee.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
I think there are a total of three recordings of
songs by Sons of the VegetableMother.
Here's one of them I've trackeddown.
Make it begin, and then we'reback to Be a Fire on the Wall
again at the televisioninterview with the legendary
Ross Wilson and find out alittle bit about this band that
(05:15):
ultimately morphed into DaddyCool.
Oh, I'm just trying to see youfriend.
Try and see your friend.
I love the Adelaide, the SouthAustralian connection, because
we were just talking to ourcameraman who was at your first
concert in.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Adelaide, at Glenelg.
Yeah, we had been playing asort of underground band I had
called Sons of the VegetalMother.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
It was a pretty wild band.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
I really liked it, but it was quite large and we
only played these particulargigs that they put on once a
month.
And I said to three of themembers which was Gary on drums
and Wayne on the bass and RossHannaford on guitar I said,
let's do this side project, havea bit of fun, sing some old R&B
, got a couple of songs here andas soon as we started playing
(06:03):
as a four-piece it was like whoa, this is great, you know, and
we could all sing.
So we had the bass voice ofRoss Hannaford and we could sing
all this doo-woppy stuff andplus the things we wrote
ourselves.
And the Sons of Asian Motherwere booked to play at the
Aquarius Blues Festival run byAlex Inacenti, who's still
around, and we had anotherbooking coming up at an
underground dance in MelbourneTF Match Ballroom.
(06:24):
So let's do an off-Broadwayperformance.
I think our name was on the bill, but that was the first time
Daddy Cool actually performed inpublic.
I think it was October 1970.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
And then in the 71, Maiponga.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
With Maiponga.
We came back we still hadn'treleased a record but there was
a big buzz around Daddy Cool inMelbourne and that filtered
through and my ponga, which was,you know, quite a large outdoor
festival.
Yeah, I couldn't easily say Ithink we were the hit of the
festival yeah well, it'sinteresting though, you know, if
you look at the eagle rock filmclip, which still gets played,
there's all this footage of aset of festival.
(06:59):
Well, that was my ponga, and wehadn't even released a record,
but a friend of ours, who was abudding filmmaker, was following
us around and taking that rawfootage.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
You were ahead of your time.
And then we MTV.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Well, we didn't even realise that.
No, you know, and it wasn'tuntil later on, only a couple of
years later, when, you know,countdown took off and Video
clip came, video became thecurrency, you know, and I went
gee, maybe that film clip hadsomething to do with us going to
number one, because it wasshown all around Australia and
that was the key to the wholething, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
I don't think the R word is in your vocabulary.
You've got 30-plus datesVictoria News, fao, tasi, wa
Monday.
Monday in August.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Are you talking about retirement?
No, no, I don't have any Rockthe boat.
I can't see that happening.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Do you ever rest?
Speaker 3 (07:49):
We're in a pretty big role at the moment.
My band, the Peacenicks, whoare all excellent musicians and
you know, make me sound good andwe have a lot of fun together
and we rock.
You know we rock hard.
We're not that polite, you knowgood music going hard for it,
selling out more shows than everbefore, so there's no reason to
(08:10):
you know we're not struggling.
Let me say that you know solike we're going to continue on
playing these regional dates andall the capital cities and if
you go to my website,rosswilsoncomau, you'll see a
huge list of gigs that's gettingadded to all the time.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I think you're one of the few artists who can't say
that you're going to have acomeback, because you've never,
actually ever stopped.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
No, I never stopped.
Really I was a little bit of abreak.
But I didn't retire in the 90swhen my marriage to the bop girl
, pat Wilson we fell apart,fortunately, and I sort of
didn't have as muchresponsibility.
So I was going off and writingwith other people and I wrote a
bunch of stuff with Jimmy Barnesand he was selling lots of
albums and John Farnham did someof my songs, and so I was
(08:50):
making a living out of music andoccasionally doing shows, and
then, as time went by, wandaRock had broken up as well, but
I was sort of doing the oddthing and then gradually got my
solo career happening andplaying all the time.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
So that's what happened, because you were
pretty all-rounder really,because you have also a great
career as a producer.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Yeah well, I did have .
My biggest thing was producingSkyworks, because I found them
and I was obsessed with gettingtheir songs out there.
I said the world's got to hearthis music and I could hear
things I could help with themwith, you know, in my head.
So we formed a greatrelationship and I became their
producer and they went on tosmash sales records that Daddy
Cool had before.
But they put it through theroof so like that was my big
(09:32):
thing.
But I wasn't a producer, Ididn't.
It wasn't a thing I wanted todo all the time, it was only if
I thought I could bringsomething to the project.
You know I wasn't like a gunfor hire, no, and so I do it a
lot less.
Now.
Sometimes people ask me for abit of advice.
I had some input on a great.
I was a really good singer andblues guitarist, lucia Louise,
(09:54):
who just put out a single calledOne man, that myself and James
Black, who used to play withMondo Rock, now with the Black
Sorrows, we had a fair bit to dowith shaping that.
And so when I'm asked and Ithink that I can add, something
I do it, but you know.
It was nice that Skyhooks was sosuccessful.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
And you also, like I said, worked with Jojo Zip
producing and.
And you also, like I said,worked with Jojo Zip producing
and the Screaming Jets as well.
I did one of their albums.
Yeah, Still rocking thatpodcast with that radio chick,
Cheryl Lee.
Over 52 years ago Ross Wilsonhad a gig at Melbourne Uni.
Arrived early, He'd never heardof the Night Support Band but
decided to check them out.
He says they started playingall these funny songs and I just
(10:34):
thought it was hilarious.
They were very rough, which Ikind of liked, but the riffs
came through the roughness.
So Ross Hannaford and RossWilson went backstage.
Hannaford offered Freddie thedrummer a Camel Non Filter
cigarette and Wilson offered thebass player, Greg McKeish, a
publishing deal.
Here is one of those hilarioussongs now from that 1974 album.
(10:59):
You Just Like Me Cause I'm Goodin Bed.
And then back to speak to theman who produced it, Ross the
Boss Wilson, very shortly.
Hi, I'm Bum Bum.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
O'Starky from that illustrious band, the Skyhawks,
and you're with Cheryl Lee, thatradio chick.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Johnny Farnham took one of your Mondo Rock songs.
He did yeah, he blew it out ofthe water.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
We're talking about A Touch of Paradise which was
actually the very first songever written for Mondo Rock, but
it took us a while to get roundto doing a version in the
studio.
Quite frankly, the Mondo Rockversion is okay, but I was never
that happy with it.
So when Barnum got it and madeit his own because he changed
the arrangement quitesubstantially, and out of the
various versions that I've beenwitness to and part of, I've now
(11:52):
got a new one, a new version ofmy own, that's, once again,
again quite different, and we'reprobably going to play it
tonight.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Touch of Paradise Excellent, the composer's
version, oh, you heard it firsthere and you've also done some
other.
You know out-of-the-box thingsIn 05, you were a judge on.
It Takes Two.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Well, that was one of the weirdest things, you know.
I never thought I'd be like aguy on tv, on a panel, but I
went for three seasons and Igotta say I did learn quite a
bit out of that.
You know how to go for it andsay what you thought, and I was
sort of one of the nice judgesyeah, you weren't kyle, no, I
was trying to you give them aconstructive advice, which was
wasn't always possible.
It was, uh, you know, the prizemoney would go to charities and
all that was like celebritieswith tutors.
It's like dancing with thestars, except vocalists, right,
(12:39):
yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:40):
and then there was your big break on Neighbours.
Oh yeah well, Neighbours?
Speaker 3 (12:43):
yeah, I have a long history with Neighbours because
prior to my current marriagewhich we've been married to,
being together with Tanya for 30years and got a couple kids,
but before that I had a I had alovely girlfriend, lovely
girlfriend and she was part ofthe casting crew at Neighbours.
So I was going in there all thetime, pick her up and say hi to
(13:04):
everyone and you know, see allthe people coming and going.
And then lo and behold mystepdaughter's big sister, Holly
.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
The lad's got a role there, I'm going oh, that's
interesting.
So it was nepotism really Well,no, no I didn't have any say,
but I was able to give a littlebit of background.
Now you going on was nepotism,yeah, later on it was.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
And then you know, Olympia ended up there for quite
a few years and on her lastscene that she had when she was
going off to do other things andquitting Neighbours temporarily
neighbours temporarily I had awalk on as myself had a few
lines.
Well, learning the lines is thehardest part, but I had done
some really terrible Z-grademovies where I had to learn
(13:46):
pages of terrible dialogue, so Ihad an insight into that.
Just relax, learn the lines.
They walked me through it a fewtimes and, hey, it turned out
all right, you know.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
You are listening to Still Rocking it.
The podcast with Cheryl Lee.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Let's play a touch of paradise.
Of course John Farnham had amassive hit with it, but we're
going to have the Mondo Rockversion from 1982, their
greatest hits album.
And then we're back to hearabout Rossoss's induction into
the aria hall of fame as wecontinue to be a fly on the wall
during our tv interview at thegig before his show and all I do
(14:27):
is look into your eyes for thatspecial touch of paradise I
just wanted to congratulate youon your in 1989, your individual
into the ARIA Hall of Fame yeah, well done.
And then in 2006 with Daddy Cool.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
With Daddy.
Cool yeah, that was a big deal.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
I think it was.
You know, daddy Cool beingrecognised was a good thing.
A little bit overdue, yeah.
But the thing with ARIA and I'mnot trying to pick on them or
anything like that, butAustralian Record Industry
Awards.
So they tend to nominate peoplefor the various things if
they've got the product and theywant to sell it.
Now I'm going to be going alongto be a part of the APRA Awards
.
Now, the APRA Awards are theAustralian Performing Rights
(15:11):
Association and the Songs of theYear are voted for by other
songwriters.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
So it's got a lot more.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
To me it's not shonky at all and my daughter, athena,
is a part of a band called GutHealth.
Remember that band, gut Healtheverybody.
They're kind of big.
Watch this space.
They're playing in Queenslandat the moment.
They've been touring in Europe.
So, yeah, gut Health.
And she's going to be appearingat the APRA Awards at the end
(15:39):
of April, so I'm looking forwardto going to that.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Awesome, another feather in your cap.
The late great Joe Cocker tookyour song I Come In Peace.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Well, he did.
It was a song I wrote with RickBrewster from the Angels right
here in Adelaide, and he said wewrote a couple of songs
together and I Come In Peace Iooh, I really like this song.
I'm going to keep it for myself.
But it took a few years and Ifinally did an album and it was
the title track andwell-produced, a great song.
And Joe Cocker's manager wasRoger Davies, who's an
(16:10):
Australian guy Used to beSherbert's roadie that's how he
started out and then became amanager and Sherbets Roadie
that's how he started out andthen became a manager and he was
the guy that turned TinaTurner's career around.
He also Sade and a bunch ofpeople, I think Pink.
Oh, I think he was lookingafter Pink and he was looking
after Joe Cocker and he said toJoe I think he saw the video of
(16:30):
I Come In Peace.
He goes, hang on.
Russell Wilson has written thissong.
You Should Do it and it took, Ithink, two albums before it
finally got on.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
It's a great version.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
And there's good footage of him.
There's a couple of videos ofhim doing it and he did a big
tour.
It was huge and still huge inGermany when he released that
album and he was doing a tour ofabout 80 dates or something and
he was opening every show withOur song I come in peace, which
once song I Come in Peace, which, once again, I'm going to sing
tonight.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yay, but sadly it turned out it was his final
single Because we lost him inthe December, but it was a bit
of a hit in Europe.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
So that was really nice to have someone of his
stature.
I don't know.
Rick Brewster felt the same waytoo.
In fact, rick was so impressedwith both versions that the
Angels did a version too.
Yes, that's on one of theiralbums.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Yeah, there you go.
So, speaking of the angels,yeah, you know, aussies tend to
do this sort of thing like am Iever going to see your face
again?
Speaker 3 (17:25):
oh, yeah yeah, now you've got an actual physical
just like the angels that whenthey first heard that chant.
Remember, you're going to seethat they go.
What do we do wrong?
Why are they?
Why are they swearing at us?
You know, and it turned outthere was this thing in mount
isa.
They were in mount isa and thedj was the one who sort of get
the people to do it so did thathappen?
Speaker 1 (17:47):
now it's gone nationwide.
Well, yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
I wasn't aware of this thing, where it occurred
and I think it was a queenslanduniversity claimed they started
it and it's spread all over thenation.
It's when Eagle Rock is played,not necessarily by me, but made
the record in a pub or awedding.
Particularly at 21st andweddings and all that.
The guys drop their pants, nottheir undies, not their boxers,
(18:12):
just their regular pants anddance around their, around their
ankles right it's such anawesome thing first time I heard
it was sometime in the 90s.
Right, I'm going.
Well, this is weird and it wasbefore the internet had really
become blown up, so they can seeit all over the place and it's
a big thing.
But we've got a plan to go forthe world, for charity, go for
(18:33):
the world record of pantsdropping.
Oh and and you might hear anannouncement about that soon I'm
not divulging where it is yetbecause it hasn't been locked in
, but it'll be pretty easy toget the world record because no
one's ever.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Yeah there's zero.
Yeah, that's right.
You could have like a hundredguys or something.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
But I think we're going for like trying to get a
couple of thousand people.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Oh, I reckon I might know where it is, because
there's a place where lots ofrecords are attempted and broken
yeah, yeah, well, yes, anyway,yeah yeah all righty, it's a
mystery, but you can probablyguess still rocking that podcast
with that radio chick, cheryllee.
I'm going to play joe cocker'sbeautiful version of I come in
peace.
And then we're back to saygoodbye to ross wilson and give
(19:16):
him a few minutes betweensoundcheck and having to go back
on stage now with the peacesneaks at the Bridgeway as we
film him for Ryder TV on Channel44 and 31.
You see, me coming.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
You feel like running .
That wicked look is in youreyes that brings us to 2023.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
The latest hit, latest single.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Yeah, I did an EP and it was harking back to my early
days where I got in my firstband and played the harmonica,
so I wanted to play a bit morebluesy stuff.
I've got four songs on it andthe title track is she's Stuck
on Facebook All the Time, whichis a blues about social media.
You know, not necessarilyfacebook per se, but it mentions
a couple of others as well.
(20:06):
You know, mentioned well, italready got outdated.
It meant twitter, yeah.
No, I was really annoyed withmy friends, so when I'm seeing
it live now, I don't say twitter, I say tick tock, yeah, okay,
so we believe there's facebook,there's tick tock, there's Insta
and are you going to play thattonight?
Speaker 1 (20:22):
And?
Speaker 3 (20:22):
it's the whole point of it is like the distraction
means that I get stuck onFacebook all the time.
Ain't got no time for loving.
It's always checking up on allthe friends.
So that's my little dig atsocial media.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
That's a true blues song.
Yeah, lamenting.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Well, that's the thing there's so many blues
songs about.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
I'm not getting enough love.
That's all important, justanother facet.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
But I've got to say I'm not trying to nail women
about this.
It's just because I would lovea woman to record the answer to
it and say he's stuck onFacebook all the time.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
And you're playing that tonight.
Yeah, I think we will.
Awesome, I think our half anhour is nearly up and I want you
to have a little bit of a breakyeah, yeah, I gotta work on
this yeah, before you start, I'mgonna ask you one more question
, um, have you got anon-negotiable on your rider
that you have to have or you'renot going on?
Speaker 3 (21:11):
not really.
No, look, I'm really easy going.
I don't go for that kind ofstuff.
You know, that's my band and Igo no moments.
No, no, no, it was all in thepast.
We're mature now Live and learn.
We've grown up now.
My thing is like I don't wantany bumps.
I don't want any.
We just want to get on stageand have a good time and do our
thing, you know.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Well, awesome, I'm going to let you do that.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
There's no mind games going on.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
So much.
All the best for the rest ofthe tour, and I don't think
you're stopping to after Money,money and Rock the Boat.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Well, I do have a break in between Money, money
and Rock the Boat, and that's athing I do every year.
We usually take off August,september, around then, and my
wife's family are originallyfrom Greece and we go off to
Greece and then a few otherplaces and we have a great time
and come back with batteriescharged, and one of the reasons
we do that time is becauseeveryone's so obsessed with
(22:03):
footy that, unless you get somefooty gigs like September you
can pretty well wipe out, youknow.
So we take that opportunity togo out.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Good on you.
Well, enjoy that, and I'll seeyou down the front sometime soon
.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Thank you.
Yeah, put your dancer shoes on.
See you Cut.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I'll, yeah, put your dancer shoes on.
Yeah, see you Cut, I'm going toget your mic off.
Yeah, you are listening toStill Rocking it.
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The podcast with Cheryl Lee here it is To take us
out the lover's lament.
She's stuck on Facebook all thetime, hey Fallon.
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Yeah, you know, I got the blues, oh yeah.
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You know what the number one cause of the blues is
?
What Not?
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You're with Cheryl Lee that radio chick.
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