June 27, 2025 • 62 mins
This week I interview the fast rising star Devon Kockz. We discuss what it takes to be a male porn star today. Wed discuss his start in the business by working with Atlanta Porn star legend Nikki Lately. He talks about life on set and how to approach ladies to do work with you. He discuss being in a relationship while chasing the business and marketing your porn and a man plus more.
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Yeah, we. So we live, we live, we live.
And hello brother, how you doingtoday?
I'm good. I can't complain, man.
Yeah, I can see that from your page.
I know, right? So I have your week been so far,
you know what I'm saying? And we did this past weekend.
(00:22):
So this this week has been pretty decent.
I've been kind of catching up onrisk.
Last week I was in Houston. I ended up going to Houston for
a photo shoot. I'm a photographer as well as a
content creator. So I went out there to go do a
photo shoot for a friend of mine.
His wife always books me to do her photo shoot every year
(00:45):
around this time and she does all these different events and
stuff. So one of the events was that we
were going to the the rodeo in Houston this week, so or last
week. So we went Friday for the Black
Heritage event for the rodeo in Houston.
So it was pretty cool, man. We had a really good time and I
drove out there so I had to drive back.
So me driving back, I got back Monday morning, early, early
(01:09):
Monday morning. I take that back.
Yeah, early Tuesday morning, about 3:00 in the morning, man,
I was driving all day, so. Yeah, so So what came first?
The you being a photographer of the porn.
Definitely the photography. I've, I've been doing
photography now since 2011. I did that.
I started doing that after I gotout of the military.
(01:30):
I was in the military for 11 years as well.
So got out, I did my last tour to Afghanistan and I needed
something to kind of take my mind off of war and shit.
So I came back and my homeboy, he was, he was in the military
too. And he was like, man, pick up a
camera, dude. I was like, I don't know nothing
about no damn camera, just I don't know nothing about it.
(01:50):
So he was like, man, you, you learn.
I promise you just just pick it up, start shooting and then just
Start learning. Go to YouTube, Go to like he
said, I'll teach you some stuff so.
One of my mentors was Michael Brown, because when I was doing
my thing, it was like back in 2009, eight, maybe.
(02:11):
No, 2007. I was paying for talk.
Oh, OK. And my boy during the photo, she
said. Bob, come here.
You take the pictures. Right.
And the reason why he did it, hesaid, look, you're going to get
tired of paying motherfucker doing this shit.
(02:31):
Yeah. And I learned, you know, because
we don't realize to be a photography got to have an eye
when you come to shooting women,especially shooting women.
Yeah, that's all I shoot. And matter of fact, I don't
know. I wouldn't.
I don't even know if I would be able to even show you that
picture on here. Matter of fact, I might be able
to hold on. I'm gonna put it as my
background so you can see it. It was actually really dope.
(02:52):
The only thing, the only. Thing if it shows, if it shows
anything, anything, it's just no.
It no, no, it ain't gonna show anything.
It it'll, it's I got it on. I got it posted on my Instagram
right now. So good.
Yeah, yeah, it's on my Instagram, so they ain't really
going to say nothing but shoot. Damn it, I was going to say
that. No, you yeah, damn it, send it
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to via e-mail that I could just download it and pull it up, but
we it take too much time. So.
But like I said, can't see, can't see it.
Yeah. Oh, that's fine.
Right. That's fine.
See, that's fine. Yeah, real snake everything,
man. It turned out really good, man.
It was a really good shot so, but we did a lot more than just
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that. We had a lot of different
photos, but that was to me, thatwas my best shot out of the
whole thing. So she just take photos and take
photos. Yeah, yeah.
She not a model, yeah, she not amodel or anything like that.
Her and her husband, they both in a lifestyle too, so they've
been a lifestyle for years. So.
So she just love to just do photography whenever I come in
town for her so. Yeah, because even when I came
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in to the game, we had to be photographers, producers and in
many cases talent. So and we had to we we literally
had to be a studio on to ourselves, right.
So, and for you, how have being a cameraman helped you be in
front of the? Camera, because I guess it's
helped with the angles, you knowwhat I'm saying?
(04:23):
Like I, I've been able to like if I'm, if somebody is actually
filming me, I can, I know the angle that he needs.
So I can kind of give him that angle by, you know, adjusting
myself for him to, you know, to get that, get that angle.
Or even when I do POV stuff, like I know how I look, I, I
like to look in the camera at certain angles as well.
So it helps out a whole lot. Oh yes, people.
(04:47):
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Now y'all know I love having my brother, male talent, producers,
directors, all my shit. And you know I'm very hard on
the guys 'cause I used to do this shit.
So if I bring somebody on, that means that the motherfucker
impressed me. Everything he bodies, everything
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that I expected male talent producer director to be.
So this brother right here with the dread, this sexy man,
because I know y'all ladies is right now creamy looking at them
right now. And y'all went to check out his
Twitter page. It's one of the hottest up and
coming male talents, right, producers, directors as well as,
(06:37):
as you just heard, photographersin the game.
He's worked with some ladies that damn it, I would come out
of retirement for. And also he also proved that if
if, if. Well, I want to make sure why I
say this. You is attached, right?
Yeah, we do find love in this business, fuckers.
(07:01):
So I'm going to shut up and let this future legend introduce
himself. Go ahead, tell who you is
brother. Yeah, man.
So my name is Devine Cox D Devine Cox.
My website actually will be up soon, probably in the next few
days, the divine cox.com. If you want to check out my my
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photography it's K false Shasha and that's KFOSHOTY a.com or you
can go to my Instagram with the same name K false Shasha
KFOSHOTYA. I've been doing photography for
about 15 years. I'm ex military, was in the
military for 11 years. I played a little NFL football
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for a little bit. And what team?
What team? Green Bay, I was on their
practice squad for about a second.
Yeah, yeah, man. So I ended up going to playing
with them, they cut me. I end up coming home to the back
to the Atlanta with the Falcons.They cut me and then I end up
playing some Canadian football after that and then some semi
(08:06):
pro for them until I retired man.
So football is love for me. I got my kid in it.
Everything's running with that. But I hopped into the industry
maybe like I don't know, about 3years ago almost.
And my first scene was with a girl named Nikki lately.
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Yeah. You know who Nikki?
Yeah, Nikki Ley was the one thatput me in the game.
She, you know, gave me my first scene.
She helped me star my only fans and, and my Twitter and all that
stuff, man. And I've been, I've been going
hard ever since, man. The first year I kind of, I, I
was, I was trying to learn the game, I guess, and just reaching
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out to different people to shootwith and, you know, try to
collide with people didn't really work all that well.
So second year I decided to takeit a little bit more serious and
you know, I started LLC in my business and you know, or my
name, I trademarked it everything man.
So, you know, now I've been doing a lot of hot wipe tours
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and you know, I did, I think last year I did 233 hot wipe
tours or two hot wipe tours, I can't remember.
But and then it's from doing that first hot wife tour.
I worked with Crystal Davis. Crystal Davis was like my
mentor. Yeah, I hear the names.
Right people? Y'all hear the names?
(09:31):
Yeah, Crystal Davis put me up ongame Man.
Like I had another name. My my name before Devon Cox was
it was Mr. Cream Pie. And it was creative for for the
moment, but she's told me she sat me down and was like, yo,
you got to change your name. It's going to put you in a pop.
Yeah, she says. It's going to put you in a box.
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And you don't want to put yourself in a box in this
industry because nobody going towant to work with you.
So I said, all right, So I endedup changing my name with her
initials. So hers is KDI decided to go
with something, DK. So I was like, all right, let me
go with Devon Cox. And at first it was Derek Cox.
And she was like, I don't like it, right?
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She was like, that's not good. I was like, all right, so I
changed it and I was like, let me do let me do Devin Cox
because my name is my real name is Kevin.
So she was like, let me do DevinCox.
And she was like, Nah, that's too much like your name.
So I said, all right, let me go with Devon DODEVON and then let
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me put Cox as AK instead of AC and put AZ on the end of it.
I said, what about Devon Cox? And she was like, you know what,
That actually sounds sexy. She said I would be, I would
like to be fucked by Devon Cox. Oh, damn.
So I was like, yeah, a couple times.
So with with this wrong let's goback because we just skip over
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the fact that he shot with Nickilately, a girl that I actually
want to work with greatly duringmy days.
So for one, walking into workingwith Nikki lately, first of all,
she's particular about who the fuck.
She's feeling she is, but me andNikki knew each other for years
before. Like I knew she was in the
industry, but I used to, I used to shoot her like do photography
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for her sometimes and, and I remember, I remember we did it.
We were doing it. We were supposed to do a photo
shoot. Me and her used to we kind of
dated a little bit so but I remember we were doing this
photo, we were trying this, she was.
More adequate down below. She knew.
Yeah. She knew what was up.
So. So she that's the reason why she
reached out. So, you know, she was like,
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yeah, I want you to do this shoot with me.
And I was like, you sure. Like you got the right price and
like, I'm like, I'll try it. Yeah.
Oh, my. Let me try it.
So I tried it and it worked. And the scene turned out really
dope and I just kind of like kept going from there.
We were doing more work together, you know, after that,
just trying to do like little scenes here and there just to
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kind of, you know, get my name out there a little bit.
And but yeah, man, she's she wasawesome to work with when it
when it comes to the industry. She showed me a lot in the
beginning, like how to start. She had me on X videos, you
know, selling my content on there for views and money and
stuff like that. But I've, I've something like
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learn how to maneuver through some of these Expos and stuff
like that to, you know, figure out a lot more than other
platforms to use and everything.So yeah, man, she kind of, she
really, she set the tone for me with it.
So I I appreciate her for it. Yeah, because see what the guys
coming in now don't understand and you got was and what we had
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to come in is you had to come inas a studio because we do.
Right. We don't have the same ways to
make money as these girls. Exactly.
Maybe just walking with a dildo.They good to go.
We got something. To fuck yeah, all they got to do
is show feet. They can come in and they good.
Yeah, I'm saying we got to find something to fuck y'all lady.
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Yeah. So for you, you said it switched
year 2, that you didn't start taking a seat.
What made you? What made that switch happen for
you? I think what made the switch
happen was 'cause I wasn't making a lot of money with it.
So like I, I was like, somethinggotta give, like I'm putting all
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this work in and not seeing the,the, the residual from it, you
know, and I don't know, I think I feel like it was the first hot
wife tour that kind of put me inthere.
I found it on Twitter and, and Iwas like, let me reach out to
him and see if I could get on this tour.
And if I can get on this tour, shit, I think I'm gonna be in
the game. I'll be fine.
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So man, I did that first hot wife tour in Orlando.
We went to Secrets down in Orlando and did that first hot
wipe tour and man, when I tell you that was the that was like
one of the best shoots I had ever done because I got to work
with a lot of people that had big names and you know, that
have some clout in the game. And it just felt good to be
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around even some of the male talent too that got some some
clout in the game and get to know them and meet them.
You know, it was really it was fun and they and they always do
orgy scenes in the beginning. So the orgy scene has has helped
out a whole lot too, because getto see everybody in action at
the same time, you know what I'msaying?
So. Everybody, yeah.
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So I like the way they they, youknow, they do their setup
whenever they do it. So that's the reason why I
actually wanted to shoot with them again.
So I end up doing another one with them in Miami.
So and that one was good too, because it was some different
women that showed up to that onesome of the same ladies, but but
some different ones too. And I got to work with and man,
yeah, I, I look, I would say thehot wife tour actually was the,
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the, the, the, the platform I'm going to call a platform for,
for me, because they were the ones that actually kind of
helped me get back out or get myname out there.
Right, because I always talk about this no different than the
women. Right.
Our brand is based off of who wefuck.
Exactly. You know, period because
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Internet. You said when you shot with the
hot wives. Nothing against the other
ladies, but you shot with what is probably right now with his
the milk. And not even just that
interracial, interracial stuff is, is really popular and and I
get, I get Flack on that sometimes too.
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A lot of black girls don't want to fuck with me because I shoot
with a lot of white women and a lot of Asian women and a lot of
Hispanic women. And they like why you won't ever
shoot with black women. I'm like, well y'all don't be
wanting to shoot with me. When I ask, I reach out.
I reach out. Want to shoot with y'all.
Y'all give me attitude. I have.
I can't remember her name. I can't.
I'm not even going to put her onblast like that.
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I go. Through it on the podcast with
the sisters. Dude right girls is not a
problem. To get them on they they want to
make the they want to make the content and and get the money
back on the back end. These are the girls want to they
want to charge me 3 four $500 todo a scene with them and then
keep the content like no, that ain't how that work, man Like I
don't want to like we gonna makethe money together.
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Shit, you already popular. Let's just do the content and
then you you will make the moneyon the top of whatever you sell
you already making the money. I'm trying to get there so you.
Know I say about women, they have the worst winners, they
have the worst winners, they winin this game.
Already money that we make yeah,like I'm I'm, I'm struggling
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trying to make I'm trying to, I'm trying to get $1000 a month
in in my miniviz and you alreadyyou, you getting 15 grand a
month like I'm not taking no money out your pocket, you see?
But see, this is where girls don't take it to account because
I ran through this when I first came in the game.
It wasn't getting white girls, black girl I was.
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I came in cutting my teeth with big girls BBWS.
That's why I could tell. Motherfucker, if you ain't got
no BBW content, you ain't makingno money, *** And what's funny
is that the most, that's the most selling pop, I mean the
most selling content out. Here BBW interracial BBW
interracial. Yeah, I said I was going to put
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some. I'm going to put some more of
that on my What's funny is one of my hottest sellers right now
is a BBW. Her name is Eve Loves.
Yeah, I I was looking at the video.
Yeah, he loves me and her. Like that's like one of my
highest selling videos on my mini videos right now.
So like me doing that, man. Look, I already said I was going
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to do a couple more this year like I got to because I know
it's going to sell. And another thing that's been
selling is is both of my orgy scenes with the Hot Wipe tour.
Those sell really good too, so. And see man, this is how he's
speaking and I've been talking about this.
Porn is the most conservative genre out of all the
entertainment genres because forus to change stream, some
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catastrophic money wise makers had to throw shit against the
wall. Exactly.
You know what I'm saying? And even back to where we were
talking about the not stereotype, but typecasting us
because that's what we got kind of highly skinny chicks.
They see BB doves. Let me tell you how dumb some of
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you females are. I I hate to piss you off, but
I'm sorry. I don't care if I hit you up,
that means I'm interested in you.
Right. You looking at what girls that I
got and you don't want to be on the site with some BBWS not
realizing that you're going to stand out because you're the
first small girl. Right.
You know, period. You know what I say and not your
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type. That part, right?
And some of this was paid gigs, Man, I'm like, I'm about to pay
you 300 and you, you know, nevermind, you know, period.
I I know it picks you all the way to that.
No, I don't. At this point now, man, I've,
I've over the year after the next last couple years, I've
just gained big skin about it. You know what I'm saying?
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Like I don't even care. No more like whoever respond
back to me and you know, and andand reach back out to me wanting
to collab with me. I that's who I rolled with.
I got one or two that I could see.
Yo, you know I can see you that way.
Yeah, please. Do.
Yeah. Please look, I travel everything
man. Like while I was in Houston that
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I got tested before I went to Houston and did 2 scenes with
two, two newcomers. Like I ain't, you know, I don't
care if you got 1000 or 100,000.Like I just want to, I want to
do the content and how to work, you know what I'm saying?
And we can, we can figure out the logistics on the on the back
end. Like I'm not really pressed on
how many followers you got and all this other stuff.
If I'm interested in, I feel like it'll be a good look for
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the both of us. Let's run it.
Let's play and and and make thismoney.
So that's how I see it. Damn.
Am I correct? You have done pay gigs, right?
Of course, yeah. OK then so.
We always breakdown when the women do pay gigs.
Let's talk about when the men doit.
Please play to my smokers. The difference between for a
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man, the pay gigs shoot and I'm talking about what goes on that
set versus the contest. So with the pay at the pay gigs,
everything is pretty much set for you already.
All you got to do is just show up and just do the work like you
ain't really got to do too much.You find out what they like,
what you don't like and and onceall that's figured out, you come
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up with the scene. Hold on hold.
On let's not forget we have to develop chemistry in a.
Small, small window because you don't know these people you
don't know them and I like to like when I reach out to people
that you know I want to do a collab with.
I like to talk to them, you knowahead of time just so I can get
a feel of if I'm even going to feel like doing this.
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If if you even got the the the wear thought to even have a
conversation with me, then I feel like we'd be fine.
But if I can't even have a real loud conversation with you or
talk to you and get to know you a little bit before we I decide
I want to fuck you. Like it's got to be something
like I'm all about connection toeven when I'm in relationships,
bro, like I don't I don't want to just fuck you and be like,
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all right, I'm done. Yeah, I can't do that.
My Dick won't get hard for that.So I need to have.
The conversation I need to do. I want some brains with my yes
yes. Yes, yes, I need some.
Brains with my booty, that part.So, you know, I'm just not, I'm
just not built like that. But but sometimes you got to,
especially in paid gigs because you don't know who you I mean,
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sometimes you'll know who you shooting with.
But you ain't never talked to him.
You ain't never you got like 5-10 minutes to figure out if
you like this person and they don't give a fuck because they
already paid you. And if your Dick don't get hard,
that's a problem. Yeah.
So. Yeah, that's the difference
right there. Rather than you already knowing
this person, you know y'all beentit chatting for about a week or
two before you actually meet andthen y'all do y'all job and be
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like alright, Yeah this was coolman.
Like you were a cool person. I already knew you was cool.
We had a conversation about it. But yeah that's the difference.
That's definitely the difference.
Because when? You're doing the pay gig.
The pressure is different. Not because more people are
there sometimes because it's thestop and go in the direction
right we. Already know what it is?
(22:25):
Yeah. We already know what it is and
you can, you can crop that shit in video when you're done,
whatever, whatever y'all end up doing in between that, cut it,
come back. That's it.
It's simple and I do and I do most of my own editing too.
Like if I'm like, if I do most of the time I do my own editing.
But then I got if I shoot with alike a hot wife or something
like that, they husbands film it.
(22:47):
They typically like to record and film and I mean recording
and edit sometimes. So that kind of helps me out a
little bit, but I like to edit, man.
I don't I don't have a problem with it.
Oh no. No, I just love when they send
me the product You re and you. Redo it.
Yeah, I can do my own thing. And Yep, yeah.
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Especially with straight throughscene.
Oh my God, yeah. If we if we can, we can do a one
take man them be the best ones. Them one takes be be great and
one takes be going. Yeah, you only got to cut like
cut and snip like a couple little pieces and keep it
moving. So now let's talk about onset
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they talk about because you see how a lot of these these dudes
move right now. The one thing I noticed is a
talent and a producer and director from looking at his
page, and I'm currently looking at it, the girls look so happy
and comfortable to be taking hisDick.
All right, So what some of the things that you do on set with
(23:53):
the ladies that help relax them?Making them comfortable, pretty
much you know what I'm. Saying.
So for me, I'm I'm typically I come off anybody will tell you
if they ever been around me, I'mnaturally a protector, right?
So I come, I come off with you can feel that energy off me.
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So and then I'm nice. I know how to enunciate my
words. I don't come in there smelling
like weed. I don't do none of that.
You know what I'm saying? I smell good everywhere I go Be
like you ain't going to never not pull up on me and I don't I
don't smell good. You know what I'm saying?
So I try to give them a aroma. Aroma therapy will relax
somebody. So if I'm coming in smelling
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good you already, I already got you at stage 1 of relaxation.
So now me, me being a gentleman to you is going to be the other
part to it. You know what I'm saying?
It's really not hard to do. It's really easy, but because.
When you her being there, you have you, you, you want halfway.
There, you're already there. Yes, job to make her.
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Won't it hit you? Come.
Yeah, that's it. Your next job is to make her
cum. That's it.
Yeah. So.
Even when I used to, I used to help them lotion up.
Yeah, I'll do that too. I'll help them because I use
baby oil. So I'll, I'll baby oil them down
just to make sure they got they,you know, skin and soft and
stuff. And then we'll keep it moving
from there, man. And I don't really have.
(25:25):
That part. Realized.
A good baby oil lotion up massage slash massage Yeah, gets
her ready every time and get me.Ready too.
Because I like, I like the touch.
So that'll just give me, give mea reason to touch you, you know
what I'm saying? And and.
And with with consent, of course, but you know what I'm
saying? Yeah.
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Yeah. But, you know, they give me a
reason to touch you so I can feel what I'm about to get
myself into, you know? Because see, I'll be the type,
dude. I ain't girl.
See, they say, damn daddy, you don't like me because I ain't
rubbed the ass. Oh wow.
No, I try not. I give you I'll respect you.
Like I ain't going to just come in there.
You know, you don't never want to come in straight up trying to
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touch them. And you know they going to feel
some kind of way. You know you don't want to do
that, so let them. I always let them touch me
first. Like I don't never touch them
first. You touch me first, then they
give me option to be like, all right, yeah, you you feeling me?
Obviously I'm going to touch youback.
So. But I never, never come to a
chute touching, rubbing on booties and stuff like that,
unless you, you give me that the, the you say, yeah, it's
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cool. Or you touch me first and say
like that touch to me or how yourub on me.
Whatever lets me know I'm, I'm in, I'm in the clear.
Oh. Yeah, yeah.
Because you like, if I want to do it, you couldn't give me a
hug. And I'm like, oh.
Right, right. Handshake.
I know. Oh yeah, dude, this ain't gonna
go right, right. Yeah, yeah.
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I try to, I try to do. I try to get a hug every time I
go in because I don't shake women's hands.
That's not my thing. But yeah, yeah, I've never been
like that. Yeah, I don't shake women's
hands, even even though I'll hear them in the real world.
Like, I don't shake women. They'd be like, how you doing?
I'd be like, bring it in. Come on, let's go.
Yeah, yeah, the fuck that did. There's no essay with that.
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So now when it comes to picking the girls other than we keep it
real here, Yeah, we want to fuckyou babies.
Yeah, pretty. Much.
I looked at your pictures, I looked at how you suck the Dick
and I said that should be me, right?
But what else do you take into account with these females?
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Because they're these females I want to fuck, but ain't no I
ain't anything. Think about contacting theirs.
So I look at I guess I look at, I look at their pages, First
off, and I go, they come labbingwith other creators or because
there's a lot of women on there.They they have boy girl content
but they don't ever tag the guysand to.
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Me, yeah. And to me that well.
Not even that. I, you know, I don't care about
all that because I'm not worriedabout another man.
That shows what you're dealing with different dudes, right?
If I'm seeing pretty much the same the same guy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now I look at it like that,
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Yeah. But I'm just saying like
typically if they don't tag the guy, the guy that they're doing
content with, that means that somebody that they deal with on
a regular basis, that's some guythat they, they, that's their
boyfriend. But if I see you dealing with
names that I know, you know whatI'm saying, then I'm like, all
right, yeah, I'm gonna reach outto you and see if you do a
collab with me. Shit, fuck it.
Like why not? So, but that's, that's one thing
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that I look at, but I also look at the quality of their work.
If their work, the POV stuff is good.
I like POV, so like I like doingstuff like that or even if you
work with somebody that's recording you, like I want to
see your angles. I want to see how you move.
Like do you just lay there or are you giving Dick?
Are you giving pussy back on theDick?
Like or like I need to see what you doing.
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If if it makes sense to me, if I'm watching it and I want to
Jack off to something you doing,then I want to be a part of
that. Because I know you're going to
make me do you going to make me work in this video and I know
I'm going to do I'm going to putthe work in with you.
So that's how I look at it. Yeah, because.
The thing that as business owners or they calculated risk.
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Yep, I feel because let's keep it 100.
They've been scenes. Yeah, I know you didn't dealt
with this that you thought was going to boom.
That's right. Yeah, it went it.
Went S quick. Yes, I've been on, I've been on
a couple sets like that and it'sbeen just like that.
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And I've had to, I've had to stop.
I've had, I've only had to stop a shoot one time.
I believe that's one time. And I just 'cause I just wasn't
feeling it. And then and I just had to stop
because I was like, man, this ain't, this ain't working.
Like, and it wasn't me, you knowwhat I'm saying?
Like it wasn't me. And I don't even think it was
her. It was just the energy wasn't
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there. Yeah.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying and.
If the energy ain't there and ifI'm not feeling it here, I'm
definitely not going to feel it down there.
And they ain't going to work together, you know what I'm
saying? So I had to like pause on it and
be like, let's come back to it and and I've been.
Sometimes with my ass had to we it went from we doing the same
to his BJ hey. Damn and.
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And it's a BJI was like, yeah, no, because some females, their
energy don't mix with yours. And like I said, a lot of times
it's because of the IT was a paid situation, right?
You know. What I'm saying versus content,
you know all the time I ever hadsituation where the content went
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S with very few times it was because it was the extra person
that was involved. OK, I.
Got you, man. But right.
Yeah, because trust me, it's like, or even worse, I'd have
been there too, where I seen thepicture I didn't get in person.
Trust me. You wear a nice set of heels,
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right? But.
No, but but but that's why I wanted that, that it really come
down to when it comes to the initial approach because that's
what the girls argue about. They complain about they got hit
them up this day and 3rd. What is your approach?
My approach is real. I'm I'm real gentle with them.
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You know what I'm saying? Especially when I send I got AI
have a thing where I send a it'sa message that I I pre a pre a
pre written message that I send to everybody is giving you who I
am in the beginning. It's telling you the people I
work with, you know, the type ofstuff that I'm into and and it's
real real. How can I put it
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straightforward, but it's it's not rude.
I'm not being rude. I'm being really, really
professional about it, you know,and I send this to anybody that
I feel like I want to shoot withjust so they understand that I'm
coming to you and I'm in a professional manner and you
don't have to worry about me being just I'm not, I'm not here
to just fuck you. You know what I'm saying?
I don't want to give you that feel like I just want to fuck,
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you know what I'm saying? I want to do the work.
Of course, fucking it's part of the, the, the, the job, but I'm
trying to be as gentle as possible so you can understand,
so you would have the you can belike, yeah, I want to shoot with
you because man, like every anytime I've ever sent that
message to anybody that actuallyresponded to it, except for one
or two women, I've I've. I've sent the.
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Message and they always come back.
Oh my God, you're so professional with this.
Like I would love to shoot with you, like just off, just off the
message alone because it's professional.
You know what I'm saying? The thing?
About it is these ladies, first of all, a lot of guys don't take
into account a lot of these ladies are in relationships and
they married married. Right, they married.
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The husband is there, Yeah, and.He's definitely probably the
one. He's probably the one checking
the messages too you. Know period.
Ain't talking to you. You think you talking to her?
You talking? To her, but I'm talking to her,
right? It to me that would necessarily
get you in the door because thisis a profession.
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This ain't no, you know, situation.
No, this ain't. No day insight.
We are here trying to get this money and you got to be any,
any, any anything that comes with money.
You got to be some type of professional to it.
And even that's even in the sex game, man.
Like it has to be a professional.
It has to be a professional transaction in order for it to
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work. So, so, yeah, man, that's, I
always come with that message, man.
I, I bring that message out all the people I work with, you
know, some of the big names, some of the little names.
And this is who I work with. You can reach out to them and,
and talk to them about who I am.Shit.
They'll tell you how professional I am.
They'll tell you everything about me because I pretty much
lay it on the table when I shootwith these people.
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You know, this is who I am. And I'm, I'm a, I'm a cool dude
to be around. You know, you'll love, you'll
love shooting with me. Yeah, so and see.
Oh. I can tell because when I saw
him with Somali Rose, I said well God damn.
Yeah, me and. Somali, man, I love Somali.
That's my girl, man. Like we actually talking about
right now. I'm trying to come back out, go
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back out to Seattle to shoot with her again.
Yeah, I love shooting with her, man.
She's awesome. Like we talk.
I think me and Somali might talklike maybe two or three times a
week easy so like. Yeah, come on, get.
Her on there, man, Yeah, she gether on here.
She, she look, she's fun, man. She's fun.
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She's real down to earth people.I mean, I know, I know a lot of
guys look at her and make things.
She might be stuck up or something, but man, she just
picky like any other woman, you know?
But she cool as hell to be around.
Cool. As hell.
So now, like the women, we have to be sex symbols.
Yeah, in. His business.
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So speak to being stylish with this because see people don't we
stick with wherever yes, we yes,gay men do look at us the LBGTQ
love us to death, but. There's.
A monetization, even when it comes to women to a certain
extent. So speak to being stylish
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because it seems like when you be on set, you do your scenes,
especially if they might call for you.
Roll what have you. You.
You give me to him. Yeah, I.
Tried to Oh yeah, if I know, if I know if I know that I'm doing
the scene and we got a we have asomething create creative in
mind before we actually get to the sex scene.
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Like I'll try to bring what I need to bring for it.
Like I'll bring a suit, I'll bring whatever you want me to
wear for it like I just did in Avni was in AVN and me and God
how do I just forget her name that fast?
It's going to come to. Yes, she is.
I'm so sorry. Don't, don't, don't beat me up.
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No, but it's right there, too. It won't come out like Maddie
Cross. Maddie Cross.
Me and Maddie Cross did. Yeah.
Me and Maddie Cross did a scene together.
Right? And she wanted to do a cowboy
theme, so she told me this way. Yeah, so.
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We ended up doing I just finished that video.
I'm actually we dropping that video soon.
I just finished editing that video because I put some some
western music behind it. I put like all kinds like it's
dope. It's gonna be it's going to be
fresh when I'm done with it. But and I had her do like a
voiceover because it was like she was supposed to be having a
dream about having this cowboy that she met earlier in the day
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to come to her room. And he actually shows up.
And when she opens the door, thewild Wild West standoff music
comes on when when he open, whenshe opens the door.
So like I got all that in there,man, like it's it's going to be
really dope. People don't like that one.
So me and Maddie and see, but that but that's what I'm talking
about for that. She told me that's what she
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wanted to do before I got there.So like this is before I flew to
let to Vegas, like I had to bring all this stuff because she
was like we doing a cowboy scene.
So I was like, all right, bet. So whenever somebody says that
or we do something like that, I try to accommodate for it.
I give you a prime example. The hot wife tour is good for
this. They come up with different
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things for each tour, right? The last two I did with them was
in Miami. They did a what was it a
cheerleaders and and footballers.
So. I was, I was the, I was the
captain for that one, right? I was the team captain.
And the reason why is because I went all out and got my my
Letterman jacket customized withmy logo on it, with my, my
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Divine Cox logo on it. I had hot wipe tour on the front
and I had Divine Cox with my oldnumber from high school on it.
So I had my shit laid out. They was like, you didn't have
to do all that. Yes, I did, because I just, I'm,
I'm different. I'm going to go all out.
Yeah. So, but it turned out, it turned
out really dope. Man.
That was a really good theme. So when we have themes for a
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shoot, I tried to, I try to accommodate for that theme.
So I try to make it look. Like you're supposed to yeah
because also it is there's no reason why I I pick certain male
talents. They don't mail it in and what I
mean by I see that you have thought behind your your videos
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yes, what have you and everything.
And you also said in year 2, which trust me, I'm pretty sure
he has succeeded in, in his planto.
Yeah, I'm getting there like. I'm not where I want to be, I
can promise you that, but I'm definitely man yes, year one,
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like I'm year one, I didn't evenbreak even.
So like I didn't, I didn't breakeven at all.
But it's been, it's been, I've been learning how to, you know,
put myself out there a lot more and how to, how to market like
my partner Diamond dip 69. That's my partner, right?
So like, she's my, I call her myMadam Chair.
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She's like, like she's my Madam and she's my manager at the same
time. Like she'd be showing me how to
do certain things. Like she got a thing where she
has a, an alarm for 3:30 and 10:30. 3/30 PM 1030 AM 10:30 PM.
And those are the times I'm posting on, on Twitter because
those are the hot times that people want to look at they
stuff, you know what I'm saying?So I'm always, I'm always trying
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to find innovative ways to, to get myself out here and get, you
know, get my name out here and the, and the, and the shoot with
different people. Like, I want to, I want to, I
want my name to be a household name in the in the porn
industry. Like real talk.
A lot of these dudes, this is the old school talk process.
You feel me from it, it it, it all has to tell you.
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We had to come in like a studio completely because we had to be
the director, the producer, in many cases the male talent, man
talent. Yep, it is.
Harder to find good photographers.
Uh huh, man. Talent.
Yep. I don't get, you know what I'm
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saying? And, and it ain't just because
of big size, right? 'Cause that don't mean shit
nowadays. You don't know how to use.
That motherfucker, it's not. There's nothing to it and it's
pointless. Yeah, 'cause even boy, I watch
you. I was like, obviously I was
angry with himself. I said let me give a boy angry.
Yeah, yeah, man, I. I'm look, let me tell you
something. So I'm in my real life.
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In my real life, I like to record my sex.
So I've practiced for years how to do that shit.
So the fact that yeah, the fact that now I can, I can POV my way
through a fucking shoot if if I can, I'm telling you, I know all
the angles now. So like it works for me when I
have to do APOV shoot. And I'm going to tell you
something Now. Look, I'm about to I'm about to
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invest in these. Like I just did a scene with
Tiana Toxic and but she has someshe has some Ray ban the glasses
with the camera in it. I got to get me some of those.
That's some good POV content too.
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I. Did that I did that at the end
of the scene and I went up like this because I just came and she
but I but I did was when it wentup, I sniffed it and brought
because we had another angle pointed straight at us and I
just brought that angle in and just let it let it do it.
They wouldn't notice the edit, they just think, yeah, they
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didn't know. They didn't know it was it Nah,
I had, I had them, I had I transitioned that shit so quick.
It was it was funny. So now I.
So when it comes to the misconception that even these
dudes, women, whatever, they think, what we do is easy.
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It's not. It's nothing that shit ain't
not. Easy about that shit.
Just the shooting part right so speak to because he's dude.
This seems to work out. I I checked out the by he he he
he he he muscular. Do you feel tattered up you know
yeah that's the the ladies love him.
I'm work I'm. Working on I'm working on me,
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man. Look, I actually about to get a
personal training too, because I'm about to shred this shit up.
So in the next couple months, Soyou summertime about to be
crazy. You try to get the.
Brazos, I see you. I'm trying to look.
I'm trying, I feel like, look, sometimes your appearance make
you it show it make you better. So you know what I'm saying?
Like I got to switch it up a little bit.
Look, I don't lost last year. I was fat in my my videos last
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year. I weighed £250 in my videos last
year and I lost 38 lbs since then.
So I'm, I'm trying to get, I'm trying to get right, man.
I ain't trying to be out here with your fat belly and shit.
Not no offense to the big guys, you know what I'm saying, but it
just ain't for me. Like I need to, I need to get
one honey go for it the higher the level.
The more they give a fuck about the aesthetics, that part.
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That part people want that I. I don't want to hear no
bullshit. I I I get it, you know, big
poppers y'all doing y'all thing but plazas, Naughty America, all
these. Yeah, everybody fuck me.
Was like. How the fuck do they look me?
How would they look me? Fucking right?
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That's it's the. Truth.
I mean, it's some women don't like that shit, you know what
I'm saying? So some women do.
I ain't even gonna front. But it's just some women out
here be like, Nah, I don't want that shit.
Yeah, so I ain't. I'm not trying to be in that, in
that category. So I'm looking for.
Marketing because like I said, it's having a Muslim physique as
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a man opens you up to a lot of things.
Look, I just got AI got AI don'tknow if you know anything about
the underwear company Shinasty. Shinasty is a they got these
weird, these really, really nice.
They they feel amazing. But I've been wearing their
underwear for years and I reached out to them to do an
affiliate thing with them and they were like, yeah, we want
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you because you, you know, we want you to post our stuff.
So now you see me out every shoot that I go to, I got a
repair of Shinasty underwear just so I can promote it in the
beginning of the video. So they'll see that I'm I'm in,
I'm in my I'm in your underwear and they underwear have all
kinds of different sexual indie windows on it.
It's crazy. Like I got a pair that's AI got
a pair that's a set. It's roses, but it's actually a
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vagina. It's crazy.
But no, but see here's the here's the thing, though, that
way I talk about with the ladiessaying he just gave you example
my man Well, he used to magic Montana.
What's going on brother? He had a toy sponsorship.
This dude that got underwear It is.
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It's I tell people in this day and age porn don't hold you back
for shit. Actuality it could help you
build your brand on other shit because who better than charm
underwear then? Exactly.
There it is. There it is.
Look, I don't have so many how many times I ain't that that
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Facebook done flag me for tryingto post them underwear.
I got one where it's a elephant Trump and all I did was take my
my pants and open them up and just show the elephant trump
from the pants and try to marketit.
And they try to take my they tryto take my picture down because
of it. I was just, I was just in my
underwear. I get out of Facebook trail be
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back here would be 3 hours. I'd be like damn.
They snatched me the shit, man. Yeah, snatch your shit so fast.
Yeah, they don't like that shit Instagram either.
Sometimes they'll take your shitdown too.
So man, also let's talk about the sacrifice of the personal
sex life, OK, You feel me? Now, of course, in your
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situation, you, like I said, youare attached brother, you know?
And prior to that, how has this game changed your personal sex
life? Because I mean, I don't know if
y'all swingers or what, you know?
No, no. We don't swing.
We don't swing at all. I've been in the swinging
lifestyle for over 20 years. So it's, it is what it is.
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Like I if if I have some people that are going to do that shit,
we'll do it. If not, then I'm just not really
impressed. I'm more non monogamous on
Polly's side of, of the relationship side, anything.
Yeah. So outside of that sexually I
don't it hasn't really changed it much other than like if if
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she knows I'm about to do a shoot, like if she knows she
want to, she want to do something or we going somewhere
together, like let's say ExoticaMiami, it was her birthday
weekend that weekend, right? So she knows I'm going to shoot.
She know that. And she?
Know we going to Exotica and they going you know, people
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going to be out there. So guess what she decided I'm
going to go get tested too. I'm going to get talent tested
and you going to get talent tested.
So guess what we going to do? We going to fuck too, because
I'm not going to miss mine because you got here for.
So you know what I'm saying. So she went and Got Talent
tested. Now it's been times where she
don't do that. Like I got to travel for a
shoot. She don't get tested and then I
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go get tested, but we just don'thave sex until I get back.
You know what I'm saying? Just so I don't mess up my test,
you know what I'm saying? So like she keep me in line on
that a lot. And I you know, I tell you we
are she keep me like we keep each other online in line on
that. So, you know, it don't really
change nothing because we get itin man.
Like that's my that's my if nobody get the Dick, she getting
it, you know what I'm saying? So yeah.
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In house it's a beautiful yeah and the.
Fact that she she knows she's OKwith the the fact that I do this
shit it's a lot of women out here wouldn't accept that so you
know what I'm saying so I I appreciate her for being around
and accepting the fact that thisis something I I I want to do
something I enjoy doing and it don't really it don't really
mess up our relationship at all It don't do nothing to it so you
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see because she. Understands when we fucking
these girls is business. Even if it's work, any of these
content trades, it's work man. It's worse.
I mean when the lights go off, we we back to the normal is a
hug and see you next time smoking blood.
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We chit chat and then I'm out. That's about it.
So it's. Nothing glamorous about it.
You're. Right, so.
But also for you, what other ways are you looking to expand
your brain when it comes to to the blue inside the business or
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outside the business? As far as expanding, I really
want to. I know I want to expand my
photography through this a little bit more.
I've been wanting to like meet up with a few women that want to
do it to see if they would do a shoot for me.
I've had only a couple Somali shot for me.
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I've had who else shot with me. I've had Tamale shoot with me.
Actually I think Somali is the only one that in the in the
industry so far that shot with me.
I actually done a photo shoot for me.
I've been wanting, I've been wanting girl pictures.
With your shoots, You do pretty girl pictures with your shoots,
yeah. I try to, yeah, you try to.
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But see, I want to do, I want toincorporate my actual business
in it. But you know what I'm saying?
Like I don't want to do it for free.
I want to do, I want, I want to be able to make, make some money
off of it because it is a business.
You know what I'm saying? I feel like nobody's going to
want to want to run that. Like I don't know if they they
want to do it. So and, and I could, you know, I
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could do that. Right, I can do a do a do a, a
video clip them solos, somethinglike that and then turn it into
a photo shoot and and we and then the content work.
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Like I, I've been wanting to. I just tried to I, I was
thinking about doing like a likeI would do a photo shoot.
I almost wanted to make it into a gimmick at one point where I'm
the photographer that all the porn stars fuck, you know what
I'm saying? But I feel like somebody already
did that shit. So I'm not trying.
I'm not trying to, I'm not trying to happy.
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Nobody's shit when it's like. This this is the comments I had
with many other producers. I feel that it's time for us to
tell our porn stories and what Imean by that is because a lot of
the stuff that we do, like, no disrespect to the hot wife tour,
but the cheerleader, football player, people, that's y'all
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know what color fantasy that is right now.
If we did the football, actually, it'd be a little bit
different, right? Right.
You know. Whole whole lot different.
So for you, how do you plan to incorporate our story, your
story, into the content that youcan film?
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I'm a I'm a goofy guy, so I liketo I like to do some, some type
of comedy into it, make it make it funny at first and then get
into the sex. So I don't know, man, like I
wouldn't I don't even know how Iwould even start doing it.
I had to sit down and come up with a plan on now.
And I'm glad you you got that onmy head now.
I got my brain gonna be gonna bemy my wheels gonna be spending
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all night thinking about that shit.
But yeah, I wouldn't want to do something like that.
Like I, I think I, I started something similar to it when I,
I did a scene with Lady Red and I had her in my car and we were
doing like, I was pretending like I was her Uber driver.
Some shit like. That like it would turn it from
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that into into something else, but I don't know man, I don't
know I even trying to do like little mini movies and shit like
I don't know like a mini movie for like 30-40 minutes, but I
just know nobody won't care likethey won't hold the attention
that long. No, it's the.
The key, OK, because that comes from the the old school when
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they they actually made movies, right, that you make it
compelling to where it keeps their attention.
The reason why I do that is one of my favorite points of all
time. And probably maybe probably one
of the reasons why I probably ain't in the business at some
point. Was this old school point known
as the Oriental anal Express, right.
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It was the Oriental express, butit's about anal.
They had sex scenes throughout and it was actually pretty
decent active because they played it.
And what was funny was the Indian lady who is who I
actually got to interview, KellyRichards.
OK to her, I hope. To get her back on the show, she
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was the one that did the anal scene and the whole was she
didn't want no one to touch the pussy because that was the
husband. But they can have the ass.
Gosh, they actually had the diamond in the pussy.
That's what they found. Oh shit.
There it is. But see, what I'm saying is if
the story is compelling enough, it's the advertising to the
scene, it actually makes the scene even more powerful.
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The sex part of it I was thinking.
About doing something like that man me and actually to be honest
with you, me and Somali have been talking about doing
something like that where it waswe it was like me and her were
supposed to be like like seeing each other in these different
places all the time. And we were just going we were
just going to meet up and it wasgoing to eat.
(54:27):
It was going to be in like APOV point of view from me meeting
her every single time I go somewhere.
We was going to pull up in Puerto Rico and she was going to
be there and we end up fucking and I was going to meet her
somewhere else and then oh shit,I see her again.
We fucking like it was just going to be all different kinds
of scenes in this one scene in this one movie.
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And every time it was like she was like a dream girl to me in
the beginning. Like I wish I had.
I wish I would have met this woman, always wanted to meet
her, but I never got. I'm probably going to never meet
this girl, you know what I'm saying?
Then all of a sudden bam I go somewhere and she there.
Yeah. It's because to me, it's like, I
never understood why anybody didn't come into this and not
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want to act it up a little bit, you know?
Yeah. That's what it is.
It's acting. Yeah, because.
I got to give props to like withthis one chick you got bald do
shit in Costco. But yeah.
Yeah, I seen that shit. Though I was like, I haven't
seen. A couple girls in Walmart doing
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that shit like y'all doing it man like.
Bro. I don't know how to fucking do
that. I've got the closest side,
right, But but it's like this tothe average person.
They think they just did it right now they mapped that out.
They had to. You had to that's, you know what
(55:53):
me and Somali did that we did that scene in the in the Ferris
wheel. We had to, we had to plan that.
We were spontaneous, but we had to plan it if that made sense.
Like we had to go late to do that shit.
We couldn't go during the day. It was nobody on it.
Look, to be honest with you, it was nobody on it until we got on
it. We got on it when nobody on the
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Ferris wheel at all, right? And it was the Ferris wheel was
about to close. So they told us, look, I said
how many, how many rotations does the thing go around?
We were trying to get all the the detail before we got on it.
I said we typically go around bythree times, but y'all, y'all
the only ones here. We let it run around by 5-6
times. Was like, oh shit, all right,
perfect man. While we was on that thing, we
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was on on rotation #4 and tell me why somebody decided to get
on last minute and we was already up high and they
stopped. It gave us like 5-6 minutes just
to get a video in. We kept.
Doing the video on the way around and by the time we get
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down to the bottom, we had our clothes back off so so it but it
worked out. So yeah, you got a plan, You got
a plan. Seems like that out, especially
when you're doing shit in public.
Oh yeah. No, but see, people don't
understand that. They don't understand the
psychology. They're jumping the game but
don't understand the psychology,right?
Yeah, you can't. You can't just jump in.
(57:16):
Nobody's store thinking you about to be fucking in
somebody's store and get away with it.
Nope. They got cameras, Everything
Everywhere. Good luck.
You gotta help this man up for an hour.
We never touch the surface, you know, right.
And so you know the $1,000,000 question, go for it, Devon.
(57:38):
Devon. Cox can't probably smoke, buddy.
Sure, 'cause I smoke. I just came right now.
Yeah, yeah. So, people, he's going to be.
Back in the smoker's mouth and I'm going to bring him the
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want to see me on on Instagram with my photography just go to
instagram.com/K Fall shot and that's KFOSH OTYA.
You can find all of my photography.
I got about 20,000 to 20,000 followers on there.
I've been doing photography for about 15 years now and like I
was showing him this is some of my work that I did earlier this
(59:52):
past week. Just some slight work for me but
y'all can follow me everywhere on all platforms.
Divine Cox. Oh, and the new.
Website New website will be dropping.
Sometime next week, the Divine cox.com.
Yes, people, so. What did we smoke over?
What did y'all learn today? Where you learn how to move in
(01:00:16):
this business from the eyes and perspective of a male porn star?
Trash production directly from what we look for, how it is on
set for us. What you guys see is the finish
line. No one cares about the journey,
no one cares about the race, right?
(01:00:36):
The race is very important because that what makes the
finish line even more important because we have to get through
the race in order to get the finish line.
Finish line, right. That's what I'm saying.
And also to let you guys know. That it ain't about the pussy.
It's about making the money. The pussy votes.
(01:00:57):
Yeah, and. How to move in this game?
Because us as men, we have a very slippery slope.
You don't be considered thirsty.That part you don't want.
None of those words passed to you.
Because believe it or not, I told you it's conservative and
it's a big industry. But it's a small Small.
(01:01:19):
Yeah, about to say it's real small.
And you don't want to be that name that.
They talk bad about all the time.
The big man is business first. Pussy don't matter.
It's going to be there once you handle the.
Business, that's the whole pointof the business that you
handling is the pussy is going to be there.
(01:01:40):
Yeah, just handle the business first.
Yep. See, you heard it from him.
So with that, yeah, you know howwe eat these things all day,
every day? Life is a learning experience.
What's the point of the experience if you haven't
learned anything? Smoke this over.
Say goodbye to him, Mr. Cox. Alright man, y'all take it easy.
Yeah, we. So we live, we live, we live.
And hello brother, how you doingtoday?
I'm good. I can't complain, man.
Yeah, I can see that from your page.
I know, right? So I have your week been so far,
you know what I'm saying? And we did this past weekend.
(00:22):
So this this week has been pretty decent.
I've been kind of catching up onrisk.
Last week I was in Houston. I ended up going to Houston for
a photo shoot. I'm a photographer as well as a
content creator. So I went out there to go do a
photo shoot for a friend of mine.
His wife always books me to do her photo shoot every year
(00:45):
around this time and she does all these different events and
stuff. So one of the events was that we
were going to the the rodeo in Houston this week, so or last
week. So we went Friday for the Black
Heritage event for the rodeo in Houston.
So it was pretty cool, man. We had a really good time and I
drove out there so I had to drive back.
So me driving back, I got back Monday morning, early, early
(01:09):
Monday morning. I take that back.
Yeah, early Tuesday morning, about 3:00 in the morning, man,
I was driving all day, so. Yeah, so So what came first?
The you being a photographer of the porn.
Definitely the photography. I've, I've been doing
photography now since 2011. I did that.
I started doing that after I gotout of the military.
(01:30):
I was in the military for 11 years as well.
So got out, I did my last tour to Afghanistan and I needed
something to kind of take my mind off of war and shit.
So I came back and my homeboy, he was, he was in the military
too. And he was like, man, pick up a
camera, dude. I was like, I don't know nothing
about no damn camera, just I don't know nothing about it.
(01:50):
So he was like, man, you, you learn.
I promise you just just pick it up, start shooting and then just
Start learning. Go to YouTube, Go to like he
said, I'll teach you some stuff so.
One of my mentors was Michael Brown, because when I was doing
my thing, it was like back in 2009, eight, maybe.
(02:11):
No, 2007. I was paying for talk.
Oh, OK. And my boy during the photo, she
said. Bob, come here.
You take the pictures. Right.
And the reason why he did it, hesaid, look, you're going to get
tired of paying motherfucker doing this shit.
(02:31):
Yeah. And I learned, you know, because
we don't realize to be a photography got to have an eye
when you come to shooting women,especially shooting women.
Yeah, that's all I shoot. And matter of fact, I don't
know. I wouldn't.
I don't even know if I would be able to even show you that
picture on here. Matter of fact, I might be able
to hold on. I'm gonna put it as my
background so you can see it. It was actually really dope.
(02:52):
The only thing, the only. Thing if it shows, if it shows
anything, anything, it's just no.
It no, no, it ain't gonna show anything.
It it'll, it's I got it on. I got it posted on my Instagram
right now. So good.
Yeah, yeah, it's on my Instagram, so they ain't really
going to say nothing but shoot. Damn it, I was going to say
that. No, you yeah, damn it, send it
(03:15):
to via e-mail that I could just download it and pull it up, but
we it take too much time. So.
But like I said, can't see, can't see it.
Yeah. Oh, that's fine.
Right. That's fine.
See, that's fine. Yeah, real snake everything,
man. It turned out really good, man.
It was a really good shot so, but we did a lot more than just
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that. We had a lot of different
photos, but that was to me, thatwas my best shot out of the
whole thing. So she just take photos and take
photos. Yeah, yeah.
She not a model, yeah, she not amodel or anything like that.
Her and her husband, they both in a lifestyle too, so they've
been a lifestyle for years. So.
So she just love to just do photography whenever I come in
town for her so. Yeah, because even when I came
(04:02):
in to the game, we had to be photographers, producers and in
many cases talent. So and we had to we we literally
had to be a studio on to ourselves, right.
So, and for you, how have being a cameraman helped you be in
front of the? Camera, because I guess it's
helped with the angles, you knowwhat I'm saying?
(04:23):
Like I, I've been able to like if I'm, if somebody is actually
filming me, I can, I know the angle that he needs.
So I can kind of give him that angle by, you know, adjusting
myself for him to, you know, to get that, get that angle.
Or even when I do POV stuff, like I know how I look, I, I
like to look in the camera at certain angles as well.
So it helps out a whole lot. Oh yes, people.
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Now y'all know I love having my brother, male talent, producers,
directors, all my shit. And you know I'm very hard on
the guys 'cause I used to do this shit.
So if I bring somebody on, that means that the motherfucker
impressed me. Everything he bodies, everything
(06:16):
that I expected male talent producer director to be.
So this brother right here with the dread, this sexy man,
because I know y'all ladies is right now creamy looking at them
right now. And y'all went to check out his
Twitter page. It's one of the hottest up and
coming male talents, right, producers, directors as well as,
(06:37):
as you just heard, photographersin the game.
He's worked with some ladies that damn it, I would come out
of retirement for. And also he also proved that if
if, if. Well, I want to make sure why I
say this. You is attached, right?
Yeah, we do find love in this business, fuckers.
(07:01):
So I'm going to shut up and let this future legend introduce
himself. Go ahead, tell who you is
brother. Yeah, man.
So my name is Devine Cox D Devine Cox.
My website actually will be up soon, probably in the next few
days, the divine cox.com. If you want to check out my my
(07:21):
photography it's K false Shasha and that's KFOSHOTY a.com or you
can go to my Instagram with the same name K false Shasha
KFOSHOTYA. I've been doing photography for
about 15 years. I'm ex military, was in the
military for 11 years. I played a little NFL football
(07:44):
for a little bit. And what team?
What team? Green Bay, I was on their
practice squad for about a second.
Yeah, yeah, man. So I ended up going to playing
with them, they cut me. I end up coming home to the back
to the Atlanta with the Falcons.They cut me and then I end up
playing some Canadian football after that and then some semi
(08:06):
pro for them until I retired man.
So football is love for me. I got my kid in it.
Everything's running with that. But I hopped into the industry
maybe like I don't know, about 3years ago almost.
And my first scene was with a girl named Nikki lately.
(08:27):
Yeah. You know who Nikki?
Yeah, Nikki Ley was the one thatput me in the game.
She, you know, gave me my first scene.
She helped me star my only fans and, and my Twitter and all that
stuff, man. And I've been, I've been going
hard ever since, man. The first year I kind of, I, I
was, I was trying to learn the game, I guess, and just reaching
(08:48):
out to different people to shootwith and, you know, try to
collide with people didn't really work all that well.
So second year I decided to takeit a little bit more serious and
you know, I started LLC in my business and you know, or my
name, I trademarked it everything man.
So, you know, now I've been doing a lot of hot wipe tours
(09:10):
and you know, I did, I think last year I did 233 hot wipe
tours or two hot wipe tours, I can't remember.
But and then it's from doing that first hot wife tour.
I worked with Crystal Davis. Crystal Davis was like my
mentor. Yeah, I hear the names.
Right people? Y'all hear the names?
(09:31):
Yeah, Crystal Davis put me up ongame Man.
Like I had another name. My my name before Devon Cox was
it was Mr. Cream Pie. And it was creative for for the
moment, but she's told me she sat me down and was like, yo,
you got to change your name. It's going to put you in a pop.
Yeah, she says. It's going to put you in a box.
(09:52):
And you don't want to put yourself in a box in this
industry because nobody going towant to work with you.
So I said, all right, So I endedup changing my name with her
initials. So hers is KDI decided to go
with something, DK. So I was like, all right, let me
go with Devon Cox. And at first it was Derek Cox.
And she was like, I don't like it, right?
(10:14):
She was like, that's not good. I was like, all right, so I
changed it and I was like, let me do let me do Devin Cox
because my name is my real name is Kevin.
So she was like, let me do DevinCox.
And she was like, Nah, that's too much like your name.
So I said, all right, let me go with Devon DODEVON and then let
(10:34):
me put Cox as AK instead of AC and put AZ on the end of it.
I said, what about Devon Cox? And she was like, you know what,
That actually sounds sexy. She said I would be, I would
like to be fucked by Devon Cox. Oh, damn.
So I was like, yeah, a couple times.
So with with this wrong let's goback because we just skip over
(11:00):
the fact that he shot with Nickilately, a girl that I actually
want to work with greatly duringmy days.
So for one, walking into workingwith Nikki lately, first of all,
she's particular about who the fuck.
She's feeling she is, but me andNikki knew each other for years
before. Like I knew she was in the
industry, but I used to, I used to shoot her like do photography
(11:22):
for her sometimes and, and I remember, I remember we did it.
We were doing it. We were supposed to do a photo
shoot. Me and her used to we kind of
dated a little bit so but I remember we were doing this
photo, we were trying this, she was.
More adequate down below. She knew.
Yeah. She knew what was up.
So. So she that's the reason why she
reached out. So, you know, she was like,
(11:43):
yeah, I want you to do this shoot with me.
And I was like, you sure. Like you got the right price and
like, I'm like, I'll try it. Yeah.
Oh, my. Let me try it.
So I tried it and it worked. And the scene turned out really
dope and I just kind of like kept going from there.
We were doing more work together, you know, after that,
just trying to do like little scenes here and there just to
(12:04):
kind of, you know, get my name out there a little bit.
And but yeah, man, she's she wasawesome to work with when it
when it comes to the industry. She showed me a lot in the
beginning, like how to start. She had me on X videos, you
know, selling my content on there for views and money and
stuff like that. But I've, I've something like
(12:24):
learn how to maneuver through some of these Expos and stuff
like that to, you know, figure out a lot more than other
platforms to use and everything.So yeah, man, she kind of, she
really, she set the tone for me with it.
So I I appreciate her for it. Yeah, because see what the guys
coming in now don't understand and you got was and what we had
(12:48):
to come in is you had to come inas a studio because we do.
Right. We don't have the same ways to
make money as these girls. Exactly.
Maybe just walking with a dildo.They good to go.
We got something. To fuck yeah, all they got to do
is show feet. They can come in and they good.
Yeah, I'm saying we got to find something to fuck y'all lady.
(13:09):
Yeah. So for you, you said it switched
year 2, that you didn't start taking a seat.
What made you? What made that switch happen for
you? I think what made the switch
happen was 'cause I wasn't making a lot of money with it.
So like I, I was like, somethinggotta give, like I'm putting all
(13:30):
this work in and not seeing the,the, the residual from it, you
know, and I don't know, I think I feel like it was the first hot
wife tour that kind of put me inthere.
I found it on Twitter and, and Iwas like, let me reach out to
him and see if I could get on this tour.
And if I can get on this tour, shit, I think I'm gonna be in
the game. I'll be fine.
(13:51):
So man, I did that first hot wife tour in Orlando.
We went to Secrets down in Orlando and did that first hot
wipe tour and man, when I tell you that was the that was like
one of the best shoots I had ever done because I got to work
with a lot of people that had big names and you know, that
have some clout in the game. And it just felt good to be
(14:13):
around even some of the male talent too that got some some
clout in the game and get to know them and meet them.
You know, it was really it was fun and they and they always do
orgy scenes in the beginning. So the orgy scene has has helped
out a whole lot too, because getto see everybody in action at
the same time, you know what I'msaying?
So. Everybody, yeah.
(14:33):
So I like the way they they, youknow, they do their setup
whenever they do it. So that's the reason why I
actually wanted to shoot with them again.
So I end up doing another one with them in Miami.
So and that one was good too, because it was some different
women that showed up to that onesome of the same ladies, but but
some different ones too. And I got to work with and man,
yeah, I, I look, I would say thehot wife tour actually was the,
(14:54):
the, the, the, the platform I'm going to call a platform for,
for me, because they were the ones that actually kind of
helped me get back out or get myname out there.
Right, because I always talk about this no different than the
women. Right.
Our brand is based off of who wefuck.
Exactly. You know, period because
(15:14):
Internet. You said when you shot with the
hot wives. Nothing against the other
ladies, but you shot with what is probably right now with his
the milk. And not even just that
interracial, interracial stuff is, is really popular and and I
get, I get Flack on that sometimes too.
(15:35):
A lot of black girls don't want to fuck with me because I shoot
with a lot of white women and a lot of Asian women and a lot of
Hispanic women. And they like why you won't ever
shoot with black women. I'm like, well y'all don't be
wanting to shoot with me. When I ask, I reach out.
I reach out. Want to shoot with y'all.
Y'all give me attitude. I have.
I can't remember her name. I can't.
I'm not even going to put her onblast like that.
(15:57):
I go. Through it on the podcast with
the sisters. Dude right girls is not a
problem. To get them on they they want to
make the they want to make the content and and get the money
back on the back end. These are the girls want to they
want to charge me 3 four $500 todo a scene with them and then
keep the content like no, that ain't how that work, man Like I
don't want to like we gonna makethe money together.
(16:17):
Shit, you already popular. Let's just do the content and
then you you will make the moneyon the top of whatever you sell
you already making the money. I'm trying to get there so you.
Know I say about women, they have the worst winners, they
have the worst winners, they winin this game.
Already money that we make yeah,like I'm I'm, I'm struggling
(16:38):
trying to make I'm trying to, I'm trying to get $1000 a month
in in my miniviz and you alreadyyou, you getting 15 grand a
month like I'm not taking no money out your pocket, you see?
But see, this is where girls don't take it to account because
I ran through this when I first came in the game.
It wasn't getting white girls, black girl I was.
(17:00):
I came in cutting my teeth with big girls BBWS.
That's why I could tell. Motherfucker, if you ain't got
no BBW content, you ain't makingno money, *** And what's funny
is that the most, that's the most selling pop, I mean the
most selling content out. Here BBW interracial BBW
interracial. Yeah, I said I was going to put
(17:20):
some. I'm going to put some more of
that on my What's funny is one of my hottest sellers right now
is a BBW. Her name is Eve Loves.
Yeah, I I was looking at the video.
Yeah, he loves me and her. Like that's like one of my
highest selling videos on my mini videos right now.
So like me doing that, man. Look, I already said I was going
(17:42):
to do a couple more this year like I got to because I know
it's going to sell. And another thing that's been
selling is is both of my orgy scenes with the Hot Wipe tour.
Those sell really good too, so. And see man, this is how he's
speaking and I've been talking about this.
Porn is the most conservative genre out of all the
entertainment genres because forus to change stream, some
(18:04):
catastrophic money wise makers had to throw shit against the
wall. Exactly.
You know what I'm saying? And even back to where we were
talking about the not stereotype, but typecasting us
because that's what we got kind of highly skinny chicks.
They see BB doves. Let me tell you how dumb some of
(18:24):
you females are. I I hate to piss you off, but
I'm sorry. I don't care if I hit you up,
that means I'm interested in you.
Right. You looking at what girls that I
got and you don't want to be on the site with some BBWS not
realizing that you're going to stand out because you're the
first small girl. Right.
You know, period. You know what I say and not your
(18:46):
type. That part, right?
And some of this was paid gigs, Man, I'm like, I'm about to pay
you 300 and you, you know, nevermind, you know, period.
I I know it picks you all the way to that.
No, I don't. At this point now, man, I've,
I've over the year after the next last couple years, I've
just gained big skin about it. You know what I'm saying?
(19:09):
Like I don't even care. No more like whoever respond
back to me and you know, and andand reach back out to me wanting
to collab with me. I that's who I rolled with.
I got one or two that I could see.
Yo, you know I can see you that way.
Yeah, please. Do.
Yeah. Please look, I travel everything
man. Like while I was in Houston that
(19:29):
I got tested before I went to Houston and did 2 scenes with
two, two newcomers. Like I ain't, you know, I don't
care if you got 1000 or 100,000.Like I just want to, I want to
do the content and how to work, you know what I'm saying?
And we can, we can figure out the logistics on the on the back
end. Like I'm not really pressed on
how many followers you got and all this other stuff.
If I'm interested in, I feel like it'll be a good look for
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the both of us. Let's run it.
Let's play and and and make thismoney.
So that's how I see it. Damn.
Am I correct? You have done pay gigs, right?
Of course, yeah. OK then so.
We always breakdown when the women do pay gigs.
Let's talk about when the men doit.
Please play to my smokers. The difference between for a
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man, the pay gigs shoot and I'm talking about what goes on that
set versus the contest. So with the pay at the pay gigs,
everything is pretty much set for you already.
All you got to do is just show up and just do the work like you
ain't really got to do too much.You find out what they like,
what you don't like and and onceall that's figured out, you come
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up with the scene. Hold on hold.
On let's not forget we have to develop chemistry in a.
Small, small window because you don't know these people you
don't know them and I like to like when I reach out to people
that you know I want to do a collab with.
I like to talk to them, you knowahead of time just so I can get
a feel of if I'm even going to feel like doing this.
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If if you even got the the the wear thought to even have a
conversation with me, then I feel like we'd be fine.
But if I can't even have a real loud conversation with you or
talk to you and get to know you a little bit before we I decide
I want to fuck you. Like it's got to be something
like I'm all about connection toeven when I'm in relationships,
bro, like I don't I don't want to just fuck you and be like,
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all right, I'm done. Yeah, I can't do that.
My Dick won't get hard for that.So I need to have.
The conversation I need to do. I want some brains with my yes
yes. Yes, yes, I need some.
Brains with my booty, that part.So, you know, I'm just not, I'm
just not built like that. But but sometimes you got to,
especially in paid gigs because you don't know who you I mean,
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sometimes you'll know who you shooting with.
But you ain't never talked to him.
You ain't never you got like 5-10 minutes to figure out if
you like this person and they don't give a fuck because they
already paid you. And if your Dick don't get hard,
that's a problem. Yeah.
So. Yeah, that's the difference
right there. Rather than you already knowing
this person, you know y'all beentit chatting for about a week or
two before you actually meet andthen y'all do y'all job and be
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like alright, Yeah this was coolman.
Like you were a cool person. I already knew you was cool.
We had a conversation about it. But yeah that's the difference.
That's definitely the difference.
Because when? You're doing the pay gig.
The pressure is different. Not because more people are
there sometimes because it's thestop and go in the direction
right we. Already know what it is?
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Yeah. We already know what it is and
you can, you can crop that shit in video when you're done,
whatever, whatever y'all end up doing in between that, cut it,
come back. That's it.
It's simple and I do and I do most of my own editing too.
Like if I'm like, if I do most of the time I do my own editing.
But then I got if I shoot with alike a hot wife or something
like that, they husbands film it.
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They typically like to record and film and I mean recording
and edit sometimes. So that kind of helps me out a
little bit, but I like to edit, man.
I don't I don't have a problem with it.
Oh no. No, I just love when they send
me the product You re and you. Redo it.
Yeah, I can do my own thing. And Yep, yeah.
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Especially with straight throughscene.
Oh my God, yeah. If we if we can, we can do a one
take man them be the best ones. Them one takes be be great and
one takes be going. Yeah, you only got to cut like
cut and snip like a couple little pieces and keep it
moving. So now let's talk about onset
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they talk about because you see how a lot of these these dudes
move right now. The one thing I noticed is a
talent and a producer and director from looking at his
page, and I'm currently looking at it, the girls look so happy
and comfortable to be taking hisDick.
All right, So what some of the things that you do on set with
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the ladies that help relax them?Making them comfortable, pretty
much you know what I'm. Saying.
So for me, I'm I'm typically I come off anybody will tell you
if they ever been around me, I'mnaturally a protector, right?
So I come, I come off with you can feel that energy off me.
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So and then I'm nice. I know how to enunciate my
words. I don't come in there smelling
like weed. I don't do none of that.
You know what I'm saying? I smell good everywhere I go Be
like you ain't going to never not pull up on me and I don't I
don't smell good. You know what I'm saying?
So I try to give them a aroma. Aroma therapy will relax
somebody. So if I'm coming in smelling
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good you already, I already got you at stage 1 of relaxation.
So now me, me being a gentleman to you is going to be the other
part to it. You know what I'm saying?
It's really not hard to do. It's really easy, but because.
When you her being there, you have you, you, you want halfway.
There, you're already there. Yes, job to make her.
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Won't it hit you? Come.
Yeah, that's it. Your next job is to make her
cum. That's it.
Yeah. So.
Even when I used to, I used to help them lotion up.
Yeah, I'll do that too. I'll help them because I use
baby oil. So I'll, I'll baby oil them down
just to make sure they got they,you know, skin and soft and
stuff. And then we'll keep it moving
from there, man. And I don't really have.
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That part. Realized.
A good baby oil lotion up massage slash massage Yeah, gets
her ready every time and get me.Ready too.
Because I like, I like the touch.
So that'll just give me, give mea reason to touch you, you know
what I'm saying? And and.
And with with consent, of course, but you know what I'm
saying? Yeah.
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Yeah. But, you know, they give me a
reason to touch you so I can feel what I'm about to get
myself into, you know? Because see, I'll be the type,
dude. I ain't girl.
See, they say, damn daddy, you don't like me because I ain't
rubbed the ass. Oh wow.
No, I try not. I give you I'll respect you.
Like I ain't going to just come in there.
You know, you don't never want to come in straight up trying to
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touch them. And you know they going to feel
some kind of way. You know you don't want to do
that, so let them. I always let them touch me
first. Like I don't never touch them
first. You touch me first, then they
give me option to be like, all right, yeah, you you feeling me?
Obviously I'm going to touch youback.
So. But I never, never come to a
chute touching, rubbing on booties and stuff like that,
unless you, you give me that the, the you say, yeah, it's
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cool. Or you touch me first and say
like that touch to me or how yourub on me.
Whatever lets me know I'm, I'm in, I'm in the clear.
Oh. Yeah, yeah.
Because you like, if I want to do it, you couldn't give me a
hug. And I'm like, oh.
Right, right. Handshake.
I know. Oh yeah, dude, this ain't gonna
go right, right. Yeah, yeah.
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I try to, I try to do. I try to get a hug every time I
go in because I don't shake women's hands.
That's not my thing. But yeah, yeah, I've never been
like that. Yeah, I don't shake women's
hands, even even though I'll hear them in the real world.
Like, I don't shake women. They'd be like, how you doing?
I'd be like, bring it in. Come on, let's go.
Yeah, yeah, the fuck that did. There's no essay with that.
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So now when it comes to picking the girls other than we keep it
real here, Yeah, we want to fuckyou babies.
Yeah, pretty. Much.
I looked at your pictures, I looked at how you suck the Dick
and I said that should be me, right?
But what else do you take into account with these females?
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Because they're these females I want to fuck, but ain't no I
ain't anything. Think about contacting theirs.
So I look at I guess I look at, I look at their pages, First
off, and I go, they come labbingwith other creators or because
there's a lot of women on there.They they have boy girl content
but they don't ever tag the guysand to.
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Me, yeah. And to me that well.
Not even that. I, you know, I don't care about
all that because I'm not worriedabout another man.
That shows what you're dealing with different dudes, right?
If I'm seeing pretty much the same the same guy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now I look at it like that,
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Yeah. But I'm just saying like
typically if they don't tag the guy, the guy that they're doing
content with, that means that somebody that they deal with on
a regular basis, that's some guythat they, they, that's their
boyfriend. But if I see you dealing with
names that I know, you know whatI'm saying, then I'm like, all
right, yeah, I'm gonna reach outto you and see if you do a
collab with me. Shit, fuck it.
Like why not? So, but that's, that's one thing
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that I look at, but I also look at the quality of their work.
If their work, the POV stuff is good.
I like POV, so like I like doingstuff like that or even if you
work with somebody that's recording you, like I want to
see your angles. I want to see how you move.
Like do you just lay there or are you giving Dick?
Are you giving pussy back on theDick?
Like or like I need to see what you doing.
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If if it makes sense to me, if I'm watching it and I want to
Jack off to something you doing,then I want to be a part of
that. Because I know you're going to
make me do you going to make me work in this video and I know
I'm going to do I'm going to putthe work in with you.
So that's how I look at it. Yeah, because.
The thing that as business owners or they calculated risk.
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Yep, I feel because let's keep it 100.
They've been scenes. Yeah, I know you didn't dealt
with this that you thought was going to boom.
That's right. Yeah, it went it.
Went S quick. Yes, I've been on, I've been on
a couple sets like that and it'sbeen just like that.
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And I've had to, I've had to stop.
I've had, I've only had to stop a shoot one time.
I believe that's one time. And I just 'cause I just wasn't
feeling it. And then and I just had to stop
because I was like, man, this ain't, this ain't working.
Like, and it wasn't me, you knowwhat I'm saying?
Like it wasn't me. And I don't even think it was
her. It was just the energy wasn't
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there. Yeah.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying and.
If the energy ain't there and ifI'm not feeling it here, I'm
definitely not going to feel it down there.
And they ain't going to work together, you know what I'm
saying? So I had to like pause on it and
be like, let's come back to it and and I've been.
Sometimes with my ass had to we it went from we doing the same
to his BJ hey. Damn and.
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And it's a BJI was like, yeah, no, because some females, their
energy don't mix with yours. And like I said, a lot of times
it's because of the IT was a paid situation, right?
You know. What I'm saying versus content,
you know all the time I ever hadsituation where the content went
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S with very few times it was because it was the extra person
that was involved. OK, I.
Got you, man. But right.
Yeah, because trust me, it's like, or even worse, I'd have
been there too, where I seen thepicture I didn't get in person.
Trust me. You wear a nice set of heels,
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right? But.
No, but but but that's why I wanted that, that it really come
down to when it comes to the initial approach because that's
what the girls argue about. They complain about they got hit
them up this day and 3rd. What is your approach?
My approach is real. I'm I'm real gentle with them.
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You know what I'm saying? Especially when I send I got AI
have a thing where I send a it'sa message that I I pre a pre a
pre written message that I send to everybody is giving you who I
am in the beginning. It's telling you the people I
work with, you know, the type ofstuff that I'm into and and it's
real real. How can I put it
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straightforward, but it's it's not rude.
I'm not being rude. I'm being really, really
professional about it, you know,and I send this to anybody that
I feel like I want to shoot withjust so they understand that I'm
coming to you and I'm in a professional manner and you
don't have to worry about me being just I'm not, I'm not here
to just fuck you. You know what I'm saying?
I don't want to give you that feel like I just want to fuck,
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you know what I'm saying? I want to do the work.
Of course, fucking it's part of the, the, the, the job, but I'm
trying to be as gentle as possible so you can understand,
so you would have the you can belike, yeah, I want to shoot with
you because man, like every anytime I've ever sent that
message to anybody that actuallyresponded to it, except for one
or two women, I've I've. I've sent the.
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Message and they always come back.
Oh my God, you're so professional with this.
Like I would love to shoot with you, like just off, just off the
message alone because it's professional.
You know what I'm saying? The thing?
About it is these ladies, first of all, a lot of guys don't take
into account a lot of these ladies are in relationships and
they married married. Right, they married.
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The husband is there, Yeah, and.He's definitely probably the
one. He's probably the one checking
the messages too you. Know period.
Ain't talking to you. You think you talking to her?
You talking? To her, but I'm talking to her,
right? It to me that would necessarily
get you in the door because thisis a profession.
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This ain't no, you know, situation.
No, this ain't. No day insight.
We are here trying to get this money and you got to be any,
any, any anything that comes with money.
You got to be some type of professional to it.
And even that's even in the sex game, man.
Like it has to be a professional.
It has to be a professional transaction in order for it to
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work. So, so, yeah, man, that's, I
always come with that message, man.
I, I bring that message out all the people I work with, you
know, some of the big names, some of the little names.
And this is who I work with. You can reach out to them and,
and talk to them about who I am.Shit.
They'll tell you how professional I am.
They'll tell you everything about me because I pretty much
lay it on the table when I shootwith these people.
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You know, this is who I am. And I'm, I'm a, I'm a cool dude
to be around. You know, you'll love, you'll
love shooting with me. Yeah, so and see.
Oh. I can tell because when I saw
him with Somali Rose, I said well God damn.
Yeah, me and. Somali, man, I love Somali.
That's my girl, man. Like we actually talking about
right now. I'm trying to come back out, go
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back out to Seattle to shoot with her again.
Yeah, I love shooting with her, man.
She's awesome. Like we talk.
I think me and Somali might talklike maybe two or three times a
week easy so like. Yeah, come on, get.
Her on there, man, Yeah, she gether on here.
She, she look, she's fun, man. She's fun.
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She's real down to earth people.I mean, I know, I know a lot of
guys look at her and make things.
She might be stuck up or something, but man, she just
picky like any other woman, you know?
But she cool as hell to be around.
Cool. As hell.
So now, like the women, we have to be sex symbols.
Yeah, in. His business.
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So speak to being stylish with this because see people don't we
stick with wherever yes, we yes,gay men do look at us the LBGTQ
love us to death, but. There's.
A monetization, even when it comes to women to a certain
extent. So speak to being stylish
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because it seems like when you be on set, you do your scenes,
especially if they might call for you.
Roll what have you. You.
You give me to him. Yeah, I.
Tried to Oh yeah, if I know, if I know if I know that I'm doing
the scene and we got a we have asomething create creative in
mind before we actually get to the sex scene.
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Like I'll try to bring what I need to bring for it.
Like I'll bring a suit, I'll bring whatever you want me to
wear for it like I just did in Avni was in AVN and me and God
how do I just forget her name that fast?
It's going to come to. Yes, she is.
I'm so sorry. Don't, don't, don't beat me up.
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No, but it's right there, too. It won't come out like Maddie
Cross. Maddie Cross.
Me and Maddie Cross did. Yeah.
Me and Maddie Cross did a scene together.
Right? And she wanted to do a cowboy
theme, so she told me this way. Yeah, so.
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We ended up doing I just finished that video.
I'm actually we dropping that video soon.
I just finished editing that video because I put some some
western music behind it. I put like all kinds like it's
dope. It's gonna be it's going to be
fresh when I'm done with it. But and I had her do like a
voiceover because it was like she was supposed to be having a
dream about having this cowboy that she met earlier in the day
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to come to her room. And he actually shows up.
And when she opens the door, thewild Wild West standoff music
comes on when when he open, whenshe opens the door.
So like I got all that in there,man, like it's it's going to be
really dope. People don't like that one.
So me and Maddie and see, but that but that's what I'm talking
about for that. She told me that's what she
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wanted to do before I got there.So like this is before I flew to
let to Vegas, like I had to bring all this stuff because she
was like we doing a cowboy scene.
So I was like, all right, bet. So whenever somebody says that
or we do something like that, I try to accommodate for it.
I give you a prime example. The hot wife tour is good for
this. They come up with different
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things for each tour, right? The last two I did with them was
in Miami. They did a what was it a
cheerleaders and and footballers.
So. I was, I was the, I was the
captain for that one, right? I was the team captain.
And the reason why is because I went all out and got my my
Letterman jacket customized withmy logo on it, with my, my
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Divine Cox logo on it. I had hot wipe tour on the front
and I had Divine Cox with my oldnumber from high school on it.
So I had my shit laid out. They was like, you didn't have
to do all that. Yes, I did, because I just, I'm,
I'm different. I'm going to go all out.
Yeah. So, but it turned out, it turned
out really dope. Man.
That was a really good theme. So when we have themes for a
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shoot, I tried to, I try to accommodate for that theme.
So I try to make it look. Like you're supposed to yeah
because also it is there's no reason why I I pick certain male
talents. They don't mail it in and what I
mean by I see that you have thought behind your your videos
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yes, what have you and everything.
And you also said in year 2, which trust me, I'm pretty sure
he has succeeded in, in his planto.
Yeah, I'm getting there like. I'm not where I want to be, I
can promise you that, but I'm definitely man yes, year one,
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like I'm year one, I didn't evenbreak even.
So like I didn't, I didn't breakeven at all.
But it's been, it's been, I've been learning how to, you know,
put myself out there a lot more and how to, how to market like
my partner Diamond dip 69. That's my partner, right?
So like, she's my, I call her myMadam Chair.
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She's like, like she's my Madam and she's my manager at the same
time. Like she'd be showing me how to
do certain things. Like she got a thing where she
has a, an alarm for 3:30 and 10:30. 3/30 PM 1030 AM 10:30 PM.
And those are the times I'm posting on, on Twitter because
those are the hot times that people want to look at they
stuff, you know what I'm saying?So I'm always, I'm always trying
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to find innovative ways to, to get myself out here and get, you
know, get my name out here and the, and the, and the shoot with
different people. Like, I want to, I want to, I
want my name to be a household name in the in the porn
industry. Like real talk.
A lot of these dudes, this is the old school talk process.
You feel me from it, it it, it all has to tell you.
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We had to come in like a studio completely because we had to be
the director, the producer, in many cases the male talent, man
talent. Yep, it is.
Harder to find good photographers.
Uh huh, man. Talent.
Yep. I don't get, you know what I'm
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saying? And, and it ain't just because
of big size, right? 'Cause that don't mean shit
nowadays. You don't know how to use.
That motherfucker, it's not. There's nothing to it and it's
pointless. Yeah, 'cause even boy, I watch
you. I was like, obviously I was
angry with himself. I said let me give a boy angry.
Yeah, yeah, man, I. I'm look, let me tell you
something. So I'm in my real life.
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In my real life, I like to record my sex.
So I've practiced for years how to do that shit.
So the fact that yeah, the fact that now I can, I can POV my way
through a fucking shoot if if I can, I'm telling you, I know all
the angles now. So like it works for me when I
have to do APOV shoot. And I'm going to tell you
something Now. Look, I'm about to I'm about to
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invest in these. Like I just did a scene with
Tiana Toxic and but she has someshe has some Ray ban the glasses
with the camera in it. I got to get me some of those.
That's some good POV content too.
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I. Did that I did that at the end
of the scene and I went up like this because I just came and she
but I but I did was when it wentup, I sniffed it and brought
because we had another angle pointed straight at us and I
just brought that angle in and just let it let it do it.
They wouldn't notice the edit, they just think, yeah, they
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didn't know. They didn't know it was it Nah,
I had, I had them, I had I transitioned that shit so quick.
It was it was funny. So now I.
So when it comes to the misconception that even these
dudes, women, whatever, they think, what we do is easy.
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It's not. It's nothing that shit ain't
not. Easy about that shit.
Just the shooting part right so speak to because he's dude.
This seems to work out. I I checked out the by he he he
he he he muscular. Do you feel tattered up you know
yeah that's the the ladies love him.
I'm work I'm. Working on I'm working on me,
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man. Look, I actually about to get a
personal training too, because I'm about to shred this shit up.
So in the next couple months, Soyou summertime about to be
crazy. You try to get the.
Brazos, I see you. I'm trying to look.
I'm trying, I feel like, look, sometimes your appearance make
you it show it make you better. So you know what I'm saying?
Like I got to switch it up a little bit.
Look, I don't lost last year. I was fat in my my videos last
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year. I weighed £250 in my videos last
year and I lost 38 lbs since then.
So I'm, I'm trying to get, I'm trying to get right, man.
I ain't trying to be out here with your fat belly and shit.
Not no offense to the big guys, you know what I'm saying, but it
just ain't for me. Like I need to, I need to get
one honey go for it the higher the level.
The more they give a fuck about the aesthetics, that part.
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That part people want that I. I don't want to hear no
bullshit. I I I get it, you know, big
poppers y'all doing y'all thing but plazas, Naughty America, all
these. Yeah, everybody fuck me.
Was like. How the fuck do they look me?
How would they look me? Fucking right?
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That's it's the. Truth.
I mean, it's some women don't like that shit, you know what
I'm saying? So some women do.
I ain't even gonna front. But it's just some women out
here be like, Nah, I don't want that shit.
Yeah, so I ain't. I'm not trying to be in that, in
that category. So I'm looking for.
Marketing because like I said, it's having a Muslim physique as
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a man opens you up to a lot of things.
Look, I just got AI got AI don'tknow if you know anything about
the underwear company Shinasty. Shinasty is a they got these
weird, these really, really nice.
They they feel amazing. But I've been wearing their
underwear for years and I reached out to them to do an
affiliate thing with them and they were like, yeah, we want
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you because you, you know, we want you to post our stuff.
So now you see me out every shoot that I go to, I got a
repair of Shinasty underwear just so I can promote it in the
beginning of the video. So they'll see that I'm I'm in,
I'm in my I'm in your underwear and they underwear have all
kinds of different sexual indie windows on it.
It's crazy. Like I got a pair that's AI got
a pair that's a set. It's roses, but it's actually a
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vagina. It's crazy.
But no, but see here's the here's the thing, though, that
way I talk about with the ladiessaying he just gave you example
my man Well, he used to magic Montana.
What's going on brother? He had a toy sponsorship.
This dude that got underwear It is.
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It's I tell people in this day and age porn don't hold you back
for shit. Actuality it could help you
build your brand on other shit because who better than charm
underwear then? Exactly.
There it is. There it is.
Look, I don't have so many how many times I ain't that that
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Facebook done flag me for tryingto post them underwear.
I got one where it's a elephant Trump and all I did was take my
my pants and open them up and just show the elephant trump
from the pants and try to marketit.
And they try to take my they tryto take my picture down because
of it. I was just, I was just in my
underwear. I get out of Facebook trail be
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back here would be 3 hours. I'd be like damn.
They snatched me the shit, man. Yeah, snatch your shit so fast.
Yeah, they don't like that shit Instagram either.
Sometimes they'll take your shitdown too.
So man, also let's talk about the sacrifice of the personal
sex life, OK, You feel me? Now, of course, in your
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situation, you, like I said, youare attached brother, you know?
And prior to that, how has this game changed your personal sex
life? Because I mean, I don't know if
y'all swingers or what, you know?
No, no. We don't swing.
We don't swing at all. I've been in the swinging
lifestyle for over 20 years. So it's, it is what it is.
(46:48):
Like I if if I have some people that are going to do that shit,
we'll do it. If not, then I'm just not really
impressed. I'm more non monogamous on
Polly's side of, of the relationship side, anything.
Yeah. So outside of that sexually I
don't it hasn't really changed it much other than like if if
(47:09):
she knows I'm about to do a shoot, like if she knows she
want to, she want to do something or we going somewhere
together, like let's say ExoticaMiami, it was her birthday
weekend that weekend, right? So she knows I'm going to shoot.
She know that. And she?
Know we going to Exotica and they going you know, people
(47:30):
going to be out there. So guess what she decided I'm
going to go get tested too. I'm going to get talent tested
and you going to get talent tested.
So guess what we going to do? We going to fuck too, because
I'm not going to miss mine because you got here for.
So you know what I'm saying. So she went and Got Talent
tested. Now it's been times where she
don't do that. Like I got to travel for a
shoot. She don't get tested and then I
(47:50):
go get tested, but we just don'thave sex until I get back.
You know what I'm saying? Just so I don't mess up my test,
you know what I'm saying? So like she keep me in line on
that a lot. And I you know, I tell you we
are she keep me like we keep each other online in line on
that. So, you know, it don't really
change nothing because we get itin man.
Like that's my that's my if nobody get the Dick, she getting
it, you know what I'm saying? So yeah.
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In house it's a beautiful yeah and the.
Fact that she she knows she's OKwith the the fact that I do this
shit it's a lot of women out here wouldn't accept that so you
know what I'm saying so I I appreciate her for being around
and accepting the fact that thisis something I I I want to do
something I enjoy doing and it don't really it don't really
mess up our relationship at all It don't do nothing to it so you
(48:33):
see because she. Understands when we fucking
these girls is business. Even if it's work, any of these
content trades, it's work man. It's worse.
I mean when the lights go off, we we back to the normal is a
hug and see you next time smoking blood.
(48:54):
We chit chat and then I'm out. That's about it.
So it's. Nothing glamorous about it.
You're. Right, so.
But also for you, what other ways are you looking to expand
your brain when it comes to to the blue inside the business or
(49:15):
outside the business? As far as expanding, I really
want to. I know I want to expand my
photography through this a little bit more.
I've been wanting to like meet up with a few women that want to
do it to see if they would do a shoot for me.
I've had only a couple Somali shot for me.
(49:38):
I've had who else shot with me. I've had Tamale shoot with me.
Actually I think Somali is the only one that in the in the
industry so far that shot with me.
I actually done a photo shoot for me.
I've been wanting, I've been wanting girl pictures.
With your shoots, You do pretty girl pictures with your shoots,
yeah. I try to, yeah, you try to.
(50:01):
But see, I want to do, I want toincorporate my actual business
in it. But you know what I'm saying?
Like I don't want to do it for free.
I want to do, I want, I want to be able to make, make some money
off of it because it is a business.
You know what I'm saying? I feel like nobody's going to
want to want to run that. Like I don't know if they they
want to do it. So and, and I could, you know, I
(50:25):
could do that. Right, I can do a do a do a, a
video clip them solos, somethinglike that and then turn it into
a photo shoot and and we and then the content work.
(50:49):
Like I, I've been wanting to. I just tried to I, I was
thinking about doing like a likeI would do a photo shoot.
I almost wanted to make it into a gimmick at one point where I'm
the photographer that all the porn stars fuck, you know what
I'm saying? But I feel like somebody already
did that shit. So I'm not trying.
I'm not trying to, I'm not trying to happy.
(51:12):
Nobody's shit when it's like. This this is the comments I had
with many other producers. I feel that it's time for us to
tell our porn stories and what Imean by that is because a lot of
the stuff that we do, like, no disrespect to the hot wife tour,
but the cheerleader, football player, people, that's y'all
(51:35):
know what color fantasy that is right now.
If we did the football, actually, it'd be a little bit
different, right? Right.
You know. Whole whole lot different.
So for you, how do you plan to incorporate our story, your
story, into the content that youcan film?
(51:59):
I'm a I'm a goofy guy, so I liketo I like to do some, some type
of comedy into it, make it make it funny at first and then get
into the sex. So I don't know, man, like I
wouldn't I don't even know how Iwould even start doing it.
I had to sit down and come up with a plan on now.
And I'm glad you you got that onmy head now.
I got my brain gonna be gonna bemy my wheels gonna be spending
(52:22):
all night thinking about that shit.
But yeah, I wouldn't want to do something like that.
Like I, I think I, I started something similar to it when I,
I did a scene with Lady Red and I had her in my car and we were
doing like, I was pretending like I was her Uber driver.
Some shit like. That like it would turn it from
(52:42):
that into into something else, but I don't know man, I don't
know I even trying to do like little mini movies and shit like
I don't know like a mini movie for like 30-40 minutes, but I
just know nobody won't care likethey won't hold the attention
that long. No, it's the.
The key, OK, because that comes from the the old school when
(53:03):
they they actually made movies, right, that you make it
compelling to where it keeps their attention.
The reason why I do that is one of my favorite points of all
time. And probably maybe probably one
of the reasons why I probably ain't in the business at some
point. Was this old school point known
as the Oriental anal Express, right.
(53:24):
It was the Oriental express, butit's about anal.
They had sex scenes throughout and it was actually pretty
decent active because they played it.
And what was funny was the Indian lady who is who I
actually got to interview, KellyRichards.
OK to her, I hope. To get her back on the show, she
(53:44):
was the one that did the anal scene and the whole was she
didn't want no one to touch the pussy because that was the
husband. But they can have the ass.
Gosh, they actually had the diamond in the pussy.
That's what they found. Oh shit.
There it is. But see, what I'm saying is if
the story is compelling enough, it's the advertising to the
scene, it actually makes the scene even more powerful.
(54:06):
The sex part of it I was thinking.
About doing something like that man me and actually to be honest
with you, me and Somali have been talking about doing
something like that where it waswe it was like me and her were
supposed to be like like seeing each other in these different
places all the time. And we were just going we were
just going to meet up and it wasgoing to eat.
(54:27):
It was going to be in like APOV point of view from me meeting
her every single time I go somewhere.
We was going to pull up in Puerto Rico and she was going to
be there and we end up fucking and I was going to meet her
somewhere else and then oh shit,I see her again.
We fucking like it was just going to be all different kinds
of scenes in this one scene in this one movie.
(54:48):
And every time it was like she was like a dream girl to me in
the beginning. Like I wish I had.
I wish I would have met this woman, always wanted to meet
her, but I never got. I'm probably going to never meet
this girl, you know what I'm saying?
Then all of a sudden bam I go somewhere and she there.
Yeah. It's because to me, it's like, I
never understood why anybody didn't come into this and not
(55:10):
want to act it up a little bit, you know?
Yeah. That's what it is.
It's acting. Yeah, because.
I got to give props to like withthis one chick you got bald do
shit in Costco. But yeah.
Yeah, I seen that shit. Though I was like, I haven't
seen. A couple girls in Walmart doing
(55:32):
that shit like y'all doing it man like.
Bro. I don't know how to fucking do
that. I've got the closest side,
right, But but it's like this tothe average person.
They think they just did it right now they mapped that out.
They had to. You had to that's, you know what
(55:53):
me and Somali did that we did that scene in the in the Ferris
wheel. We had to, we had to plan that.
We were spontaneous, but we had to plan it if that made sense.
Like we had to go late to do that shit.
We couldn't go during the day. It was nobody on it.
Look, to be honest with you, it was nobody on it until we got on
it. We got on it when nobody on the
(56:14):
Ferris wheel at all, right? And it was the Ferris wheel was
about to close. So they told us, look, I said
how many, how many rotations does the thing go around?
We were trying to get all the the detail before we got on it.
I said we typically go around bythree times, but y'all, y'all
the only ones here. We let it run around by 5-6
times. Was like, oh shit, all right,
perfect man. While we was on that thing, we
(56:36):
was on on rotation #4 and tell me why somebody decided to get
on last minute and we was already up high and they
stopped. It gave us like 5-6 minutes just
to get a video in. We kept.
Doing the video on the way around and by the time we get
(56:56):
down to the bottom, we had our clothes back off so so it but it
worked out. So yeah, you got a plan, You got
a plan. Seems like that out, especially
when you're doing shit in public.
Oh yeah. No, but see, people don't
understand that. They don't understand the
psychology. They're jumping the game but
don't understand the psychology,right?
Yeah, you can't. You can't just jump in.
(57:16):
Nobody's store thinking you about to be fucking in
somebody's store and get away with it.
Nope. They got cameras, Everything
Everywhere. Good luck.
You gotta help this man up for an hour.
We never touch the surface, you know, right.
And so you know the $1,000,000 question, go for it, Devon.
(57:38):
Devon. Cox can't probably smoke, buddy.
Sure, 'cause I smoke. I just came right now.
Yeah, yeah. So, people, he's going to be.
Back in the smoker's mouth and I'm going to bring him the
savage smoke, but we really going to chop it up for
definitely yeah, Spotify. Subscribers.
Y'all know what it is? Go ahead subscribe over to
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(58:01):
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over there, go over to loyal fans, get a profile follow me on
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(58:45):
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That's right 5 premium podcasts.We do enjoy special events that
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That's why you should subscribe and you can check out my work as
(59:08):
I give ladies the work because big Dicks going to stick that
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So go over there and subscribe there as well.
So Mr. Cox to everybody where they can find you and spend
money on you. All right man, you can go.
Actually I got. All my links man
allmylinks.com/devon Cox you canfind me on everything now if you
(59:30):
want to see me on on Instagram with my photography just go to
instagram.com/K Fall shot and that's KFOSH OTYA.
You can find all of my photography.
I got about 20,000 to 20,000 followers on there.
I've been doing photography for about 15 years now and like I
was showing him this is some of my work that I did earlier this
(59:52):
past week. Just some slight work for me but
y'all can follow me everywhere on all platforms.
Divine Cox. Oh, and the new.
Website New website will be dropping.
Sometime next week, the Divine cox.com.
Yes, people, so. What did we smoke over?
What did y'all learn today? Where you learn how to move in
(01:00:16):
this business from the eyes and perspective of a male porn star?
Trash production directly from what we look for, how it is on
set for us. What you guys see is the finish
line. No one cares about the journey,
no one cares about the race, right?
(01:00:36):
The race is very important because that what makes the
finish line even more important because we have to get through
the race in order to get the finish line.
Finish line, right. That's what I'm saying.
And also to let you guys know. That it ain't about the pussy.
It's about making the money. The pussy votes.
(01:00:57):
Yeah, and. How to move in this game?
Because us as men, we have a very slippery slope.
You don't be considered thirsty.That part you don't want.
None of those words passed to you.
Because believe it or not, I told you it's conservative and
it's a big industry. But it's a small Small.
(01:01:19):
Yeah, about to say it's real small.
And you don't want to be that name that.
They talk bad about all the time.
The big man is business first. Pussy don't matter.
It's going to be there once you handle the.
Business, that's the whole pointof the business that you
handling is the pussy is going to be there.
(01:01:40):
Yeah, just handle the business first.
Yep. See, you heard it from him.
So with that, yeah, you know howwe eat these things all day,
every day? Life is a learning experience.
What's the point of the experience if you haven't
learned anything? Smoke this over.
Say goodbye to him, Mr. Cox. Alright man, y'all take it easy.
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