September 5, 2025 • 71 mins
This week I interview Jess B. We discuss her love of the Buffalo Bills and her gameday gangbang with SubGirl0831 and Marie Fox. We discuss why ganagbangs has become so popular and we move to how she got into the business. She talks about her first posting pics to doing solo content. Then she talks about her first content shoots and working with Rodney St Cloud from Strippers In The Hood. We discuss life outside the business, testing, and personal responsibility sexually that porn stars have to practice to stay in the business. We discuss how growing in the business and more.
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Cool. And how we start, 'cause, 'cause
like I said, I at me, it's not about in in pretty this way.
They see you suck Dick, they seeyou take Dick, they see you get
fucked and see you eat pussy andeverything the fuck else.
But they don't get deceived. The brain, which to me is the
sexiest part of a woman. Oh, I appreciate that.
(00:20):
And how you doing today? I am good, very good.
I do appreciate you reschedulingtoo.
I was. I was down for the count last
week. Oh my gosh.
Trust me, you know the the smokers.
No, I I go through a lot of re rescheduling because it happens.
Yeah. Even my ass cancelled sometimes
(00:41):
because I'm sorry like today. I've been asleep all day.
I supposedly recorded something for for today, for May the 4th,
for Star Wars shit and. Oh, May 4th, right?
Yeah, I which I as I posted a live, but I'm going to do it
later on tonight. Yeah, well, that's what some
days are for. Some days are for catching up on
(01:02):
sleep and relaxing and so you'refine.
So how was it working with my friend Sammage?
Because. Y'all Sammage?
She's one of my faves. He's amazing.
He's great. It's he's so fun Every, it's
like every time we're every timewe're in the same area together,
like he's always, he always wanted to work with me and I
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just so appreciate that, which like we just have good energy.
Like he's, he's, he's such a good human.
Oh, yeah, and, and now is it safe to say that you're a
Buffalo Bills fan? I see a lot of Buffalo Bills.
Yes, of course. Yes.
Oh my God, yeah. And this is just a little bit of
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it too, like it's all over the place, so.
So for you were you so like who came up with the idea to do the
'cause I think I did some type of scene about the the game with
Kansas City and the Bills, I take it, or something that
nature or. That was my idea so.
Cares about it. Yeah, so I always wanted to do
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my, I always want to do a gang bang and I wanted to do
something cool and I want to do something, you know, grabby, no
pun intended, you know, I want to do something that would like
get people's attention. So sports obviously or it's
going to get people's attention.So and I'm a huge sports fanatic
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and I knew that around the time that I wanted to schedule the
gangbang was going to be NFL playoff time.
So I was like, this is kind of perfect.
So I asked a bunch of people, you know, you know, the people
that I know that are really big football fans, hey, do you want
to participate in this? If you do bring your jersey,
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whatever. So it worked out good.
And then one of the guys, Chocolate Beast, who was in the
gang bang, was like, hey, I knowsub girl, she's a big Bills fan.
And I was like, yeah, ask her ifshe wants to be involved.
And then and then it turned intothat.
And also Marie Fox is a big Bills fan.
So like it ended up being the three of us.
So it wasn't really a game. It was more like an orgy, but
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but yeah, that's. That's what they trans out to
Maria, trans out to both Maria and Sub Girl I both had on the
show. Yeah.
And 'cause I, I remember when I saw you, Maria, I was like, you
see, I haven't gone y'all to do a scene where y'all could be
sisters. No, my God, it's so funny.
Everyone has said that like we did a scene.
(03:38):
Listen, we did a scene. It was a completely impromptu
scene at one of a collab house that we were at.
And we just had a her and I werethe only ones in the hot tub and
we were surrounded by guys and we just did like it was
impromptu. We just didn't plan it.
It just happened. And it's so funny when we watch
it, like all of our friends are like there are times where I
can't tell which which one of you is doing.
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And we've we've actually talked about it too.
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Yeah, people progress. So now you just heard she loved
the Buffalo Bills as much as sheloved gangbangs.
She's a freaky nasty. The legs go all the way up.
She might look innocent, but trust me, this ancient lady is
probably one of the dirtiest sluts in the business and I'm
going to shove and let this gorgeous lady introduce herself.
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Hi everyone, I'm Jess B Or just be 716.
Just be 716 on all of my platforms, Instagram, Twitter,
only fans, money, bids, fans, Lee, all the good stuff.
And, and what's interesting is that like the, the, the, the
thing that you did with Sub Girland Marie Fox, both of them are
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like machines. Oh my God.
How are you able to keep up? A prayer no, they're great it
you know, their energy is very similar to mine so even though
like they're kind of I don't want to say I hate the using the
(07:01):
word veterans, but you know whatI mean like they've been in this
a little bit longer than me so it's it was easy for me to be
able to play off their energy and stuff and we found a really
good balance like it's it's fun and learning from them I see
what they do you know it it was it honestly was an honor working
with them so. So speaking about, since you say
(07:23):
you ain't been so long, let's goback in The Time Machine.
How did just be just be just be in the industry?
So I, I have been modeling for friends for a while.
Nothing risque, just fun stuff, you know, photographer friends.
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And it's actually kind of a sad story, but it's, it's good now.
But I had a pretty good following on Twitter for a while
because of the bills stuff like we call like we call bills
Twitter, like bills, the bills mafia, the bills fans like we
(08:08):
have like a pretty good community.
So I started like doing this thing where I would post just
like sexy game day photos, like go bills, you know, and for a
while I would get people in my DM saying, do you have an only
fans? Like what's your where's your
link? And I'm like.
I don't know, it's funny how like you can be posting pictures
you looking sexy in the. Right, It's so funny, right?
(08:32):
It's so funny. And I'm just like, I never
really thought to like monetize that.
I it was just, I was kind of just doing it for fun, you know,
so well and then in March of 2022, I ended up having to have
surgery. I ended up having a
hysterectomy, but it's fine. Everything's fine.
But I'm a hairdresser. That's my day job.
So during the recovery, I don't get PTO.
(08:56):
I'm my own boss. I don't get PTOI don't get, I
don't get aid from the state, you know what I mean?
I don't get any of that stuff. So I ended up having a GoFundMe
to pay for my bills because I'm going to be out for six weeks,
right? So what the fuck am I going to
do, you know? And this was like, I couldn't
plan it. It just happened like the
surgery, I needed to have it like sooner rather than later
(09:18):
before like things metastasize, whatever.
So I have the GoFundMe and it was great.
Thank. I thank everybody who who
contributed. I was able to pay my bills, but
that was it. It just covered my bills.
And so I'm kind of sitting thereand I'm just like, what can I
do? And only fans is kind of like in
the back of my head like do. Only fans do only things.
(09:40):
And so I'm like, OK, I guess. And that's how I started.
I started doing that and here weare you.
Know so so so when you began Only fans, what type of content
was you doing? Oh my God, it's so funny.
Like looking back or thinking back on it and I'm just like,
(10:00):
this is so cringe. Like I was like it was just
purely solo stuff. But like when I first first
started like my first month, like Oh my God, I just was
selling like fucking topless photos for like $10 apiece.
It was fucking hilarious. And now I'm like.
They were buying that shit. Won't be.
What's that? They were buying that shit
won't. Be Oh my God.
Like hotcakes, you know, Obviously.
(10:21):
Like I feel like everyone you say, what year was it again?
2022. Yeah.
So we would just really come outthat pandemic.
We were just coming out of pandemic and I think that since
I had such a good platform already, like it was easy for me
to like transition to that and like guys were like so willing
to pay that. And now like I said, it's just
so funny. Like I $10.00 for a titty
(10:43):
picture. I wish you know so, my God.
So, so when you start doing yoursolos, OK one, do you enjoy
doing so? Did you do solos?
Because one that was the easiestcontent that you can do at that
time. Yeah.
Or OK, then yeah, because I knowsome females use solo as the
(11:06):
easy explainable way to get intoporn just in case of people find
out. Yeah, I'm more ashamed of what
they're doing. They just and and they just want
a easy way not to be looking at funny, but go ahead.
Yeah, basically. Well, OK, so here's the thing,
right? Is that like I this whole world
of like only fans and collaborations and in content
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houses, I had no fucking idea. I had, no, I was so naive.
I was like, Yep, OK, like solo, I guess, you know, And to be
fair, I live born and raised in Buffalo, so Buffalo's not a big
city. It's not like where it's like
New York or Miami or LA or anything like that, where it's
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like content creators are like every other fucking person, you
know, we don't have them here. It's very rare to find them
here. So like I didn't know that world
even existed for like a a long time, at least two years.
But see, But see, you wasn't thinking about actively pursuing
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the porn babies you get. What I'm saying, I mean, I just
was like, OK, this is going to be fun side thing, but no, not
at first. Not at first, no.
So solo stuff was like the only thing that I really had.
I didn't have anything else, youknow, So that's what I was.
Doing When did you figure out that filming the solo wasn't as
(12:32):
easy as it looked that these other girls made look?
Oh my God, immediately, like thefirst solo that I ever took, I
like go back and I look and I'm just like, Oh my God, I'm like,
I sold this on there. It was like lighting and angles
and editing and like, and I was like, I would like watch the
era. I would like kind of like follow
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these girls on like their socialmedias and they're like, Oh
yeah, this is like, I'm setting aside like 8 hours to do some
solo stuff and I'm like 8 hours.I'm like, it takes me 10
minutes. Well, no fucking wonder Why?
Because my, because my quality was so bad.
Yeah. So yeah.
Yeah, because people don't realize it's like it's one
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because you have no one to bounce off of this one.
So it's it's it's a harder sale.And 2:00 you got to position
yourself to where they can really see the Dick going into
the pussy and so forth. But you got a on top of that
being got a cameraman. Now you got to angle that shit
on a trap. On a tripod, on a phone, You
know what I mean? Like it's just in.
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The tripod it just post the phone up.
It was literally like, I'm goingto, I'm going to set my phone
down on my night stand. And like you should have said,
it was so funny. Like the way that I had my legs.
I had my one leg on the wall andone leg on my fucking headboard.
Like it was, it was hilarious. It was hilarious.
Oh my God. So now when did you decide you
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wanted to drift into Boy Girl? And how did you go about finding
your first collab sheets and so forth?
And how did you find out about collaboration?
So once I re, this is going to sound foment, but once I
realized that, like I had AI hada lot of requests for boy girl
content and I'm just like, well,I don't know what to do like I
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and I had so I owe. I've always been freaky.
So like I always like had guys like record us like when we
like, you know, just because it's fun.
It's fun to watch them and look back.
It's hot, right. So I had a couple on my phone
and there's a few that I knew that I could not get to help me
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monetize because they are, I don't public figures.
So like I knew that I couldn't, but like the ones that are just
like, you know, just fun hookups.
I would ask them. I I'd be like, hey, so we have
this video. I know this is weird, but like,
could I like get you to sign a release form and could I sell
it? And surprisingly I got a good
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response from that. So I was like, cool.
And then I ended up going to Miami for a Bills game and while
I was down there, I was like, I should look to see if there's
anybody in the area that does only fans content.
So where did I go? I went to Reddit because that
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was the only thing that I knew at the time.
That was the only. I'm still learning Reddit.
Maybe because I'm old, but I'm still learning Reddit.
Honestly, yeah. So I went to Reddit and I just,
I found the sub community only fans collabs.
And so I posted in there. I was like, hey, I'm going to be
in Miami for a couple days if anyone's interested.
And I ended up linking up with somebody down there.
We ended up not even making content.
(15:48):
We're still friends and we stillsee each other to this day, but
we still have not made content together.
This was wild. But he was the one that was like
kind of telling me about it here.
You could do this, you could do it this way, you could do it
that way. And he's awesome.
And but then, like, he was putting together a content trip.
(16:09):
And I was like, a content trip. What the fuck is that?
And so he was like, yeah, you can come.
We were supposed to go. And so he threw us into this
telegram group with a bunch of different creators.
And that is where I met my very,very dear, dear friend, Bella
Bear, the petite professor. And she was the one, she took a
(16:32):
chance on me. Like she was the one that
invited me to come to Exotica New Jersey 2024 for the first
time. She invited me to her collab
house in December. Like, and that is when I really
like, shit. This is how this fucking shit
works, OK? Like, that is really where I
learned like, what a collab is, what a collab house is like, You
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know what I mean? Like consent testing, Like
that's where I learned everything.
And that was when that trip, that trip to New Jersey, the
first one in October was when I,I actually, I'll never forget.
I actually came back and I had atherapy session like the the
week after and I said to my therapist, I'm like, this is
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going to sound crazy, but I'm like, I think I finally thought
like figured out where I'm supposed to be in my life
because it was so fun and I feltso good.
And it just was like the people that I met were like phenomenal.
Jay Black, You know, it was just, they were, it was just it,
that was it for me. That was that was like signed,
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sealed, delivered, like I'm going to be in this.
Business so basically let me butbefore then did you have I mean
other than the play videos that you did with your friends?
Yeah, you didn't even start doing the the pro stuff until
what that that trip for the mostpart.
Yeah, Like I did have someone come up to Buffalo to shoot with
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me. Darren Blaze.
He did pop up here. But even then I didn't know
anything. Like even then I was like, he
was like saying things like he would say certain terms that we
use in the in the in the industry.
And I was like, what? I'd be like, what are you
saying? Like I had no idea.
So that that was like really like my first collab, but truly
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it was like, it was like, it waslike in September, October of
last year was when I really likegot into it so.
So have you done a content houseyet?
Have I ran one? Are you?
Asking, I mean have you done oneat content house?
Oh, I've been to a few, yeah. So now have you also done any
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pay gigs? Yes.
OK then. OK so now with that being said,
I always talk about the difference between the paid
gigs, the content trade gigs. Yeah.
And for you, because you were doing content before you did
paid, Yeah. What's on the misconceptions
that got broken in your mind when you did the paid shoot
(19:07):
based off of content sheets? Oh, that's a really good
question. Truthfully, like I my page, I I
want to, I want to reiterate my page shoot was not a pro shoot.
So I feel like the pro, I have not done a pro shoot yet, but I
do know that they're very. Different, but it's still a
difference in the paid versus content.
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Yeah, so basically when I went in for my page shoot, I did it
with Rodney St. Cloud.
He's phenomenal. Love him.
Could not recommend him enough. He is.
Really. I saw that video, he's one of my
favorites. He's.
So great, like he just was like,not only was he like great to
work with, but he is just like an incredible human being.
He was like, I'll pick you up from the airport, I'll take you
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to your air. I mean like he just was so
amazing. Like he was such an amazing
person. So, so the difference was like
he had like obviously like a full script, like he had like a
whole layout of what he wanted he bought.
You know, my clothes that he wanted me to wear like he had
this whole like he cuz like he, he has a, he has a website.
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He hasn't, he has an image like he has a thing.
So it had to it had to go along with that.
Like, whereas like collabs, it'slike we're trying to figure out
like what we want to do. Like do we want to do something
that is just a gonzo, which is like we just get into it or do
we want a storyline? Like are you going to be a pizza
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delivery guy? You know what I mean?
Like it's a collaboration where as the page shoot, it's like,
Nope, like he's going to tell you exactly what to do and how
to do it. And this is how long we're going
to shoot for. And the equipment obviously is
much more professional. He had a cameraman, he had a
stylist there. Like it was.
It was. It was.
Different he he shoots, he shoots like a professor of
studio. He's just now when it comes to
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the motion of the actual sex scenes, because I know we well,
I'm pretty sure he does it similar to how y'all would if
y'all fucking doing a content trade where both of y'all patrol
the action. He ain't got no one directing
it, you know, period, because a lot of people know that when
it's directed, their timing, thepositions and so forth and so
(21:17):
forth. So for you and he also gave
pretty girl pictures for the shoot is correct, right.
So for you had working with him shaped what you do moving
forward, Because a lot of times when you shoot with someone of
their style, it makes you think about how do I it makes you
let's keep going. It makes you change how the fuck
(21:38):
you do shit. It does actually, and this is
going to sound crazy. This is like one of the big
things, right? Like, he's clearly very
experienced. He's been in this industry for a
very long time. Like, he knows what he's doing.
And if anyone has ever seen his content, like he's got a monster
Dick, right? And so he does.
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And so there are some guys out here doing content that like
will just kind of jackhammer theshit out of your pussy.
And it's just like, you know, And like, that's fine.
But like that shit hurts, you know, like so like, like and
when he pulled this Dick out in front of me for the first time,
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I was like, I was literally likeI even said he he saw it all
over my face. I was like, you are going to
break me in half. Like please be careful because I
have a week long shoot. Like I have so many more shoots
that I have to do. And if I'm sore like I'm he was
like girl, and he really was so fucking respectful.
(22:45):
Like he didn't he say he? Does sensual sex?
He is so. Experienced with that, yeah, he
does sensual sex. He's he's not we if people go
look at Rodney, Rodney don't # the girls, no, Rodney, he, he
works them over. He yes, he's sensual, slow and
methodical, but see, that's because that old school, the elk
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that we came from, because he, he, he came out a little bit
after me. We were taught that one.
If you want to get the Dick in the pussy action, you can't #
her because we can't see how much of a Dick she's actually
taking. You can't face fuck her the
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whole time she's sucking your Dick because we want to know how
much of the Dick she's actually taking and and we want to see
her play with the Dick. You know what I'm saying?
It's it Yes it this generation don't know how to change your
pace. No, that is absolutely correct.
Now granted there are some, you know, creators that are much
(23:52):
more experienced than others, but you nailed it.
Like he is like it was like. But I knew that coming in though
it it it my first shoot was winning pro and we that ain't
pounding brace off of her shit like you coming and saying shit.
You might need to take your ass to Hollywood.
I'm just saying. Right, I feel like sometimes the
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guys like pound the pussy because they think it looks
better on camera. And it that might be true.
That might, you know, for some, but truthfully, like so like I
had a shoe, it was like 1, maybelike my third or fourth shoe at
AVN and I was sore for the rest of the fucking week.
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And so like the rest of my shoots, I just was like, you got
to take it easy on me. I'm super sore but well, and I'm
like that shit sucks like that sucks because I'm.
Broken the way I used to work. They say me and you work
together. I brought you to North Carolina,
we working all weekend. So I need you fresh for these
other shoots I'm not going to pound the brakes off of.
You exactly, exactly. That's exactly it.
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It was like respectful. So now since I've had that, like
I've been with somebody who's been so experienced, like like
Rodney is like I go into my shoots and I tell them I'm like,
listen, like I'm going to do it like this first.
Like you need to do it like this.
So that way like I'm not fuckingsore for the rest of the.
(25:16):
Week and see and see what and what you doing is you're now
shaping your brand because how you fuck is part of your brand
as well people. Yeah.
See, people understand that who you fuck and how you fuck is
actually a big part of your brain.
Yeah, you know, period. You have the females, they can
get off on getting roughed up and stuff like that.
(25:39):
But also I'm actually this, the females understand their look
and what I mean by their look isthis.
Some females, when you look at them, you don't want to pound
the shit out of them. They did.
The fans want to see them get love made to them.
Sensual sex. There's some females that guys
want to see her as. You get flooded out like a
(26:00):
motherfucker. Yeah.
Yeah. So for you, what look do you
think you fall under? That is a really good question.
What? Look.
Oh my God. Probably the latter.
Like I feel like guys wanna like, see me get fucked up.
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I don't know. I don't know, truthfully.
Like for example, right, do yourrough scenes because I know you
do have rough scenes, rough sex scenes.
I've some, yeah. Yeah, some how they do with how
they go over with your fans versus your other stuff.
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Yeah, OK, so that was what I wasgoing to say.
I think most of my fans like to see me in a sensual, more like
sensual way. I do have some fans that are
like I do. I do have some fans that are
like, Oh my God, like you're such, you're such a slut, blah,
(27:07):
blah. But then like, you know, like
most of my fans are like, Oh my God, like seeing you come was
just like so amazing and what, you know what I mean?
Like I just feel like it's almost like a personal thing for
them. You know what it is?
This is going to sound really weird and I feel like a lot of
people might not understand thisbecause of where they were
raised or whatever, but Buffalo,most most of my fans are from
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Buffalo. Most of them.
And I think that the, the reasonwhy they like to see me more in
a central way is because they think that I'm attainable
because I live in the same fucking city as them.
And Buffalo is not like a, it's not a tiny city, but it's not
huge either, you know. So I think that that's what it
is. Like I've been stopped, you
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know, in the street being like, Oh my God, you're just me.
Like they like people know me, you know, So I feel like they
are going to fuck. They want to see me get fucked
the way that they are going to fuck.
See, not because you come down to it.
I keep telling ladies we fantasize even when we got the
jerk off, we fantasize what thisleak, what led to her wanting to
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fuck me and I think that got lost in this era is a fantasy
aspect. No matter how much you want to
see him talk about authenticity and real sex, it's still a
fantasy because they're living by curiously to you, by
watching. Yeah, yeah, I, I, I absolutely
agree with that. Like it is.
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And that's actually one of the biggest compliments that I get
from my fans is like, Oh my God,you're so authentic, such an
authentic person. And I'm like, I don't know how
else to be. I'm not fake, you know what I
mean? Like I can't be fake.
If I was fake, you would know itlike I would be, you know what I
mean? Like I'm not a bad actor, so.
So with that being said, becausewhen it comes to picking the
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guys for your content because when we talk about being real
and authentic, y'all know we already talked about one of the
criterias of why we pick who we pick for content trade Yeah So
if you want to fuck them, what do you take into account over
the net? Their attitude, you know, like
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how they approach me is a huge thing, you know, because like I
get people in my DMS. Oh my God, they're so
respectful. They have this like long thing.
Hi, I am so and so and I do content and I would love to work
with you if you're interested, you know, and then I have guys
in my DM being like, let's collab or let's fuck, let's, you
know what I mean? I'm like, that's like one of the
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big things is just like how you approach, you know, like I know
that I'm a porn star, but like I'm also a human being.
Like I deserve respect sort of thing.
So that's a big one. And also like just their general
look, like I am tall on five 7. And so yeah, so I like having,
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you know, someone like as big asI am, I guess you know what I'm
saying, Like so. You you you you lose some
height. What's that I?
Mean yeah, you you want to be 5-9 or better.
I mean, yes, but honestly, like I don't mind a short king, like
I like a short king. It's just like, I don't want to
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be my look. Personally, I don't wanna look
like an Amazon I. Can say.
You know what I mean? Like I don't wanna look like I'm
about to mother the bigger. Person in the room.
Right. So like I mean, if you're a
short king, great. Like I love a short king but
like have some girth to you so that way I don't look like I'm
about to smother you if I get ontop.
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Which goes back to like I said, I gotta put this, females act
like they're scared to say thereis a certain type man that they
want for content versus fuck personally.
Yeah, you feel where I'm coming from.
Yeah, because it's it's it's a difference, just like his
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boyfriend Dick and porn Dick. It's it's the look that I will
fuck off camera is not necessarily the same look I will
fuck on camera. Yeah, no, it's true.
No, that's absolutely true. Like I have many guys that I
would love to like hook up with off camera, but I would never
put them on camera because theirlook just isn't what my image is
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going, you know what I mean? Like it's just not going to jive
well, but yeah, like I mean, I could give you a perfect
example. Like I don't know, like he's an
up and Comer as in Damson Jenkins.
Like he is like that is the typelike tall brown skin, you know,
like just in shape like that is a perfect, you know, or like
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even like Shorty's world. Like, I don't know if you know,
Shorty 666, I think he's 6667. And I'm just like, I'm so tall
that I was like when I like met him for the first time, I was
like, Oh my God, I feel like a little terrib in your arms, you
know? So that juxtaposition is always
so good. The taller ones the better
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because I'm tall, you know, on camera it's gonna look so good
if you're tall and it cuz I'm tall, you know.
But no, I don't mind a short king.
I love, I love short guys. She she she she's trying to be
nice to her short. Well, y'all short king because
I'm, I'm 510 so I'm, I'm good. I'm at least three inches tall.
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I don't, but just like. But I'm.
Tall we're. Just like you have to understand
that like I consider short king like 5-6 or shorter because I am
tall, whereas someone a girl who's 5/3 might consider 5-6
tall because it's tall. You know what I mean?
So. It's still about to get in
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contrast because even to the point it just look no different
in like with interracial porn, majority of time, especially on
the mainstream level, it's goingto be a a smaller white girl
with big tall black dude. Yeah, it just looks bigger.
And I'm thick too. Like I got, I got some.
Oh yes. I'm thick as fuck.
So I'm like, if you're like a little tiny little thing, I'm
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going to. I'm going.
To don't worry team smokers, I know I hear y'all She will be
coming to the premium smoke roomso we can see how the thickness
Yes, we are because trust me, I've seen the page.
Damn thank you. Like I said, she she just close
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to get to on the list of come out.
We will come out of retirement for a lady.
You know what I'm saying? Oh that would be fun.
Because it's like a lot of stuff.
I look at your page, I see you into.
I'm into. So because I see you somewhere
into BDSM. Yeah.
She's a real nasty freak. I love it.
So now let's talk. Because you talk gangbang,
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right? Yeah.
And this is the year of motherfucking gangbangs.
Why have gangbangs became so popular within the industry and
why so many girls are living to shoot them?
That's a really good question. Gangbangs are just fun.
I like I said, I did my first gangbang.
Well, I did my first gangbang organized gangbang with sub girl
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and Marie Fox like I said, but Iactually did a gangbang like the
day before in the house is it was at ABN and I just happened
to be the only girl in this house full of like very
beautiful black men. And I was like, hey, are you
guys free right now? Like let's do this.
So that was really fun. So that one was just me.
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But then I did the one with Marine sub girl and then sub
girl actually just asked me to do one with her in Chicago.
And I in that one though. So the one that we did before
was with other content creators,the one in Chicago that sub
world did. She's the queen of fucking
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gangbangs. Her Anne Marie Fox.
She does them all the time. That one was the.
Regular and go for it like this right?
If there was a Mount Rushmore ofgangbangs right now.
There she is. Young two names and add Rebel
Rider in it. Yeah, yeah.
And. She got three holes.
Yeah, I think he does three holes too.
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No, they all do. I'm the only.
Guy. Listen, I did not think that sub
world would even want to like doit just because like I actually
don't do anal. I don't I don't do it.
And so there was a few times like I was like, hey, so like I
know like you're asking me to dothis gang thing, but like I
don't do anal. I know you do.
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And when it comes to like actuallike sex, you can't go from ass
to anything else because you're going to fuck up, you know, pH
whatever. And so.
See. Wait, the way you had to do it
because even when we film so people understand this me of
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course you had to make sure ass was clean and what have you.
But after I did anal, we did stop now.
Now we did ass to mouth but thatwas her choice right?
But me when he came going back in that couch where one at the
time is especially when I get the condom.
I still wouldn't wash my Dick off but I go wash my Dick off
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then we come back and pick it back.
Which we appreciate very. Much.
Yeah, because it don't take muchto throw off a woman's pH
people. No, Oh my God, fucking magnum
condoms throw my pH off. I don't know what the fuck is
with that. Like whatever, it doesn't
matter. But anyway, so I did tell her
and she was like, oh girl, no, Ijust won't do anal.
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It's fine. Like she just like they were so
I don't know. Because like they even said like
she was like, there's no use in explaining like you can't go
from my ass to her vagina and like you can't, she's like, so
we're I just won't do it. And she just was like, it just
was so great. Like, I just like, I felt like,
you know, because I felt like I was going to like take away
something from her and she was like, girl, no, like she
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literally was like, Oh my God, don't even worry about it, you
know? And it was really sweet.
So. So yeah, she actually.
And then I actually just she, the, the guy who organizes them
for her actually just reached out to me yesterday and asked me
that she wants to do another onewith me.
So I was like, OK, shit. So I honestly.
So, so I'm actually what's the most numbers of Dicks you took
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during the game? Bang.
That one was 15 1515 guys and then me and sub girl.
Yeah. So I'll be honest though, like I
I know that they're like kind ofstarting to get like a little
bit more popular, but like before I was even a porn star,
like I liked watching gangbang porn.
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Yeah, myself. So I'm just like, I've always,
that was always a fantasy of mine is doing gangbanging.
But see. But see what what blowing my
mind for me coming from when I started it never been this pop
actuality it was probably I daresay the most rarest of porn that
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you saw was the gang bangs. Right.
It was almost like the only the only ones, the only gang bangs
you could find on the porn siteswere like the like black
professional ones. Like no one was doing amateur
ones. Like it wasn't popular.
At the time it wasn't American, it was actually from Germany,
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the 3GS. I'm going to be honest, you want
to know something crazy. This is something that I don't,
I don't know if I've ever like admitted this, but whenever I
used to watch porn, like becauseI I've been, you know, I've been
watching porn since I was like 16, I would mute it because I
could not stand the fucking fakemoaning from the girls.
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Like I would just be like, this is so fucking fake because I
would always end up watching prostuff like I wouldn't watch the
amateur. And so it wasn't until I started
getting into this that I'm like,damn amateur is where it's at
because they're not fucking fake, you know, so.
Yeah, it's, it's, it's to me. Well, when I started way earlier
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than you watching porn. I was a late bloomer.
I was in 11 years old and I saidto this day I will never forget
the name of that damn and saw all three all three of us a
trilogy young lady Chatterley and and I tell people this the
point that you watch shakes the point that you do if you do this
business. No, it is I saw them kissing,
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touching. They was working around the
clothes sexy shit. They was wearing heels, you
know, And to me, I think that what happened.
Is that because it became so microwavable and people want to
become viral that the quality ofpoint has kind of been lost, You
know, but not realizing that that's short term gain, but
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you're not going to gain long term because they always come
back to date. People want to see storytelling
they want. To see Yeah, yeah.
They always like the stories. It's always, always was like,
you know, like all the DVDs werelike, oh, you know, the the
spoofs, like what were they? Oh my God, I was actually just
(40:51):
trying to think of something theother day like shaving Ryan's
privates instead of like, you know what I mean?
Like those like spin like those like spoof of like the big
movies like like Pirates of the Caribbean did like a soft porn.
I'm sorry, that's one of the greatest points ever made.
The Pirates of the Caribbean oneThe Pirates is probably in my
opinion and I get anyone to fight this with the greatest
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porn. Wasn't it soft core though?
It no is no. Let me break this down to you.
OK? They had to chop it up into
different versions because see this is the reason why you shoot
with major companies ladies. They haven't distributed shit
worldwide to make money, especially the DVDs because
America is the only country where only fans is popping.
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Sorry to bust your bubble. Yeah.
If you want international you have to go clips for sale buy
digress. Clips for sale.
Yeah, I do have that. Yeah, so only fans own one week
is popping that. That's what I'm saying.
That's autumn Girls is number one in in Europe.
They're making money off of us. I didn't.
I didn't even know that that's. Crazy.
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Yeah. So they had a hardcore.
I remember seeing the extra scene with Belladonna.
Oh my. I love you Belladonna and her.
I forgot who else it was, but they had a hardcore, you see the
Dick going in the pussy, the cumshot and all that.
Then they had the shit that was Playboy and they had the shit
they didn't have. None of that because each
country you can't, you can distribute your porn, but like
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for example Japan might say something like you can't show
ejaculation so you can't show the pop shot.
A different world. From countries you can't, you
can show everything but penetration.
So that's why they came out withthe softcore version.
Right. Which was no penetration.
It was just like, they're just like a bunch of tastes.
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Well, they showed fucking, but it wasn't fucking, you know what
I mean? Like it was like under a blanket
sort of thing. And it just was like, that's
interesting. How do you not know that?
I was such a late bloomer. I didn't fucking know that I.
Told you I'm a historian, this shit and I talked.
You don't understand. I talked to the producers and
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the directors and the the top guys.
I used to say girls to them to work for paid gigs and then we
used to break it down to them. They don't want to tell me about
with DVDs. There was like that why I knew
like certain countries where I knew the DVDs sold.
I said OK, they accept my Type 1.
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Like I sold shit in Afghanistan.Oh, anything that had an Army
base, I sold it. Brazil.
German. Ireland.
That's just good. And a whole goddamn fans of
interracial couples that love myinterracial shit over in London.
I'll never get one person sent me a picture.
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They were bootlegging my shit atthe at the little the little
black market store. Really.
Yeah. That's how you know you made it.
Because when you get like the bootleggers or when you get like
the people that are like, yeah, that's so funny.
But that's true because it was like, it's so taboo in certain
countries, you know what I mean?Like it's so taboo.
Plus, like, I mean, I don't knowif you're like, especially if
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you're making content with whitewomen and selling it for what,
you know what I mean? Like it's just, yeah, so that
makes sense. That's so interesting.
So you, you, you really, you really know this business pretty
well. Yeah, pretty much.
Yeah. That was most known.
Unknown people trust belief. So now are you in the BDSM?
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Yes and no. I yes, I should say this.
I do like light BDSM. Don't ever leave a mark on me.
I'm not like permanent mark. You know what I mean?
I do like it. OK.
I don't know what you consider this.
I feel like this is like pretty typical, but like, I know a lot
of my friends hate this shit. Like I love when guys like spit
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on me, spit in my mouth, slap myface, choke.
Look at that smile. I like, you know, a handcuff or
two, you know, don't ever fucking tickle me.
I'll fucking kick you in the balls.
Don't ever do that. I hate that shit.
That's just trauma though. That's.
I'm sorry, like I said again, she just now made the list of
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ladies that would come out with time.
Before don't tease me though, soso that like I said, I don't
know if that would be consideredor that maybe that's like.
No, no, it's, it's OK. Then there's people that could
be into, there's people that could be into BDSM and not be a
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true submissive. And there's people that are the
true submissive and they end to BSM.
You get where I come from. So you might have a lady that'd
like to get spanked. You might have a lady that's
into being tired of doing all that, but she may not be what is
considered true submissive, meaning that she has submissive,
she willing to submit, she's looking for a Dom, so forth and
so forth. You know what I'm saying?
I've been to like, I've been to like sex clubs where I've
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actually like witnessed like actual flogging and I had to
walk away. Like I just was like, I can't, I
don't. It's like something with like
the the dynamic. I just can't do that.
But that doesn't mean that I'm like shaming.
I think that's like beautiful when you find the correct
dynamic, that's amazing. But for me that's just something
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that I can. I don't like the flogging, I
don't like the the whips, you know, I don't like don't leave a
mark on me 'cause I also mark. Very easy.
So I'm just like, if I, I, I, I'm going to tell you what she
is, right? I call her elegant slut,
arrogant slut. It's like you can't spank her,
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but you can rough her up. Yeah, I like to be spanked, but.
Just don't. It's, it's, it's, it's more of a
I'm trying, I'm trying to find the right analogy for it's like
he, he, it's like eating the steak, but I don't need all the
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gristle. Yeah.
So you can spank me, but don't leave a bruise is what I should
say. Like you can spank me like a
knob where you can like see yourhandprint that's hot like.
Even with that, like even when Iused to slap a girl on the ass,
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I did it for the sound. Now, yeah, start by harder.
I'm like, OK, you, you actually.Right you.
Know what I'm saying? Even with the slap on the face,
it's, you know what I'm saying, you know, a little tap to make a
sound or what have you. Because see, even with me, it's
like now people got to realize just like with pro wrestling,
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when they do the little chops, the kicks, you hear the, you
know, slap the knee. It's just about the sound effect
because I don't want to slap thelittle dog shower unless she's
truly my slave and she's my submissive and that what she
wants daddy to do, right? And I would gladly do so, you
know, period. But when we talk about women,
that's different. That makes sense.
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Like my close, my close girlfriends like can't get on
board with like the spitting in the mouth or spitting and I'm
just. Like people that are willing to
do that. I wanted to get me Facebook to
pull my face back. I just dirty bitch suck my.
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You're turning me on a little bit, I.
Don't. I told you I'm a Donald.
I just listen. I actually just was sexting with
somebody earlier and I want to read what he said, he said.
What do you say? I was sexting with somebody
earlier because this guy me and him have been hooking up like
consistently for a couple years now.
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But he doesn't live in my area so I don't I have to catch him
when he's in town. Oh this is literally what he
said right here. He said I want to spit on your
face and suck those titties while you're riding my Dick to
come. And I was like, yes, please.
That's. That's not going to.
Do yeah, I. Can't find nobody to have fun.
But I didn't trying to get him to do porn.
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He just won't do it. He won't do it.
He's such he would be such a good porn star.
Problem is, he's like a public. Figure I miss doing the slut
training videos. I just I, I would love to do
something like that. Because each point where and
then even like primal videos, wehad the girl, she might have the
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anal, the the anal and the animal anal plug tails.
And then I had her crawl around and then she sucked me off and
then I busted the nut and the cat in the cat bowl and she went
and lit it like a cat. That's.
No, she likes that shit, right? No, I totally get a.
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You know what I'm saying? No, it's so much you can do with
with that they can play off withme and that's saying that she so
will and. I would love to do like a slut
training video, something like that, but I don't know if I want
to get like that crazy with it, but like almost like instead of
like slut training or slave training, something more like to
play off like a dungeon sort of yeah, but like obviously like
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I'm not. I don't don't what is that
thing? What is the X called?
I forget the cross. Yeah, don't hang me upside down.
Like don't do that. Just like.
See see you more you more of a sensual BDSM than hard.
But also spit in my face and call me a slut.
Yeah. I mean, no, that's part of
Central too. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
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I mean, it it it's in there. So gosh, you got me wrapped up
over this. Moment I know I'm like OK I'm
here or what shit. So now with you being in the
business, which I'm pretty sure this never came up on the other
podcast, and I talk shit about the other podcast and most
pockets ain't going to never talk about this.
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See, that's what I love about mypodcast, OK?
Bring. It on no one talks about the
hardest part of this business isoutside the business of our
movement. We just, we have to curb our sex
life, how we're moving the dating world, all that shit
because we have a some places onHoney City 200 three $100 test
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that we got to pay for to chase these dollars to keep up with
making this money. So for you, when you learnt that
part, how much of an adjustment you had to make in your own
life? It actually was like almost
instant. I like I said, I used to be
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before I mean I'm still slow, but I used to be a pretty big
slut like before this like whereI would like to try and take a
dude home yeah yes, but I've been selective like, but I
really I've been trying to like I I want a roster.
I'd be trying to like take dudeshome, you know, from bars and
(52:06):
whatever now, because if I and Ialways like, if I'm fucking
recreationally, not for work, I'm always using protection
always like that's always been astaple of mine ever since I like
start fucking, you know, whatever.
So, but even then, you know, oral chlamydia is still a thing.
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And so I always tell if I, let'sjust put it this way, I don't
really fuck recreationally anymore.
I don't, I don't unless it's with somebody that I trust or
unless it's like with another content creator.
You know what I mean? Like we can have sex like off
camera or whatever and it's fun.But because like if I, and if I
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do, it's like I, I tell them I'mlike, I won't suck your Dick
unless you've been tested. Because if, God forbid, if I
get, if I catch something and I have to go to work in a week or
I have to go get tested, you know, my $300.00 TTS test or
whatever and I pop for somethingand I'm not working.
I'm like, you are costing me money.
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So I don't, I don't really date or fuck recreationally anymore,
like I said, unless it's with somebody that I trust.
Like I have a sugar daddy that I'll like hook up with, but I
he's. And see how people don't realize
it's like when these content creators come in throwing fans
his dad, yes, we're fucking, we're having sex.
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But you want to make sure who you sticking your Dick in is
tested just as much as you are, you know, period.
Because especially if the level,as you go up in level, it
becomes more and more important.Exactly.
And even to the point where I even talked to married couples,
the husband ain't even in the business.
He got to stay tested. Yeah, no, it's true, especially
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because a lot of people in this industry are also swingers.
So they'll go to like a community or whatever and then
like that shit, like makes me nervous.
So like the people that I like shoot with, I'm just like you.
And like, I know a lot of peopleare like, oh, I'm cool with like
a 14 day test. Not me.
You better be tested within likewithin seven days.
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And that's even like I'm like, Iwant you to.
Truthfully, I want you to. Test you know what's funny
right, the content trade. I used to love to get another
ladies and I had some time with ladies like God you had to text
me good morning and I'm like OK one we about to fuck in a minute
and two I can't be a human. But I digress because part of
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it, psychology and test is only as good as the last person you
fucked. Yeah.
So I like to get to know what your sex, your sex life by
conversation. Yeah.
So I know if dude is it worth megoing wrong?
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Yeah. Or is it not because also a lot
of girls in the business, especially at that time, they
probably still do escort it. Let's give me 100 you.
Know what I mean? So it's like I said, it's just
to me, people don't realize on the outside looking in, it's a
lot that we have to give up to chase this business.
And it's just identity, people judging us know our own personal
(55:25):
sanity, life, love life, so forth and so forth.
I know I'm single and I'm singleby choice.
So like I don't really date thatmuch anymore just because like I
don't, I don't really want a partner.
And if I do find a partner, I want him to be in the industry
(55:46):
so he fucking understands because half the shit is so hard
to explain. Even when I'm talking to my
girls, I'll like tell them something that happened and I'm
like, I'm like, they're not going to get this though,
because they're not even in the like, they're not like they
didn't like they're not in the industry, you know?
So yeah, like I just, it's, it'stough.
Like I it's tough. Oh, and then like you get like
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or if you like, you do go out ona date, right, You have to
disclose on the first date. Listen, I do only fans because
how like sometimes you either get Oh my God, what that's
crazy, or you get oh, oh, so you're.
Just like when I run down my list.
Do girls be running? I did porn.
(56:31):
I mean, I am into Polly, into swinging, yes.
I would not have an issue with you being fucked by a dude and
actually watching. It's not a problem.
Yeah, and they're like, wait, what?
They like have no idea the. Concept.
Yeah, I couldn't do the change. I'm like, I don't want you to
waste your time. Yeah, no, I'm the same way.
I like usually tell people before I even meet up with them
(56:55):
because I'm just like, if this isn't if this isn't something
that you can jive with, then I'mnot wasting my fucking time, you
know what I mean? But like I said, I don't ever
date anymore. The dates that I go on are like
sugar daddy dates. That's it.
You know what I mean? Like where it's just like not
going to be anything serious anyway.
So I'm just like, I don't really.
It's like it's crazy how almost instant it happened, like where
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I just was like, Oh my God, I want this roster, blah, blah,
blah to all of a sudden as soon as I started doing content
houses that and I started payingfor these fucking tests that all
of a sudden I just was like, it was like it was naturally
instant too. Yeah, Yeah, I'm actually this.
I'm actually this because when you started doing the content
houses shooting with the more established did you know is a
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difference in your traffic, a difference in your exposure,
difference in your money? Oh, big time.
Oh, big time. Yeah, the exposure part, like
all of a sudden, like I'm shooting with guys.
I've been introduced to guys whohave, you know, bigger numbers
(58:01):
on social media. And all of a sudden, like my
following went up by 2000 in a weekend and I was like, and so I
was like, this is just crazy money.
Yes, it's cyclical. I feel like you know how.
(58:22):
Many game movies in no way. The game ain't easy, no way.
Say that again, I'm. Sorry, you said the game ain't
easy. No way.
No, it's not. It's just like this economy is
like it's very cyclical. It's like up and down, up and
down, up and down. But yeah, no big time.
My following definitely grew exponentially.
(58:46):
Yeah, I mean, I'm not surprised because I mean, once again, it
goes back to your brand is part of why your brand is who you
from, because I mean, no, it it like this in order for a lady to
become a kingmaker, she has to fuck some kings to the point and
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and and what I mean, some peopleI'm saying why I mean by
kingmaker is it is now more important for me to shoot with
Jazz B than it is for me for herto shoot with me.
That means she makes me. That what I mean by kingmaker,
you know, period. You know, because when he comes
in male talent, our bones are made off of the level of girl we
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fuck. Yeah.
She ain't got she can get off onfucking low level dudes.
It's just when she put high level dudes it just gives her to
a different bracket and and how can I put this look?
Yeah, it's true. And I do like feel bad.
I never want to be that person that like is quote UN quote
(59:49):
clout chasing. Like I don't ever want that, but
it's true. Like if you, you know, if I'm
like shooting with people who, you know, I don't want to say
new, new is not the right word. But like if they're not, if
they're low quality, let's just say it that way.
If they're low quality, if they're like not doing and not
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putting in the work to do to getthe following to get, you know,
like if they're not hustlers, I'm not going to shoot with you
because. Where is that going to put?
Where is that going to put me? Then like people are going to
look at me and be like, oh, so she's shooting with that.
You know what I'm saying? Like it's all about, I hate to
say it, but this like business, a lot of this business is all
(01:00:31):
about how you look and who and like, you know what I mean?
Like it's, it's like who you associate with who, how you
look, right? Exactly so.
She said it. Thank you.
I've been saying it. Yeah.
The aesthetics is very important.
Yeah. Because you're being paid,
you're being booked, you're being looked at, they're
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spending money because you are asex symbol.
The more sexier you look of thatsymbol, the more money you will
make. A. 100% because even to the
point like I talk about this, I love Twitter pages because
Twitter Twitter to me is the biggest judge.
I don't look at IG when it comesto a lady because you're forced
(01:01:14):
to have to. No, if I see more of your pussy
than I see of your goddamn face,you missed the point.
Yeah, I agree. I agree.
Like I and I know a lot of girlswho don't even post like their
pussy on on Twitter just becauselike I mean truthfully, they
just don't like the freeloaders.But but yeah, no, it's true.
(01:01:35):
Like that's why a lot of times when these guys reach out to me
and I don't ever see their face on their on their page, I'm
like, I don't know if I want to shoot with them.
Like if I'm only seeing your Dick, I'm like.
Because you want to know why? And see, girls don't think about
(01:01:55):
this. The worst thing you can do is
kill the fantasy. And what I mean by this, right,
OK, you shot with Rodney McCloud.
Yeah, I love Rodney. Y'all must understand Rodney
McCloud is a legend in his business.
He shoots to your quality. The same quality she would get
(01:02:16):
probably. Hollywood would have you right.
Who? What's some other names of
Melton's unit shot with? Kashim shame the dream.
Yeah, he's yeah. I think he's saying he's had a
sign with Hussey. Hussey models.
Yeah, Black. It's like this, right, The way
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that we get introduced to you. I better see that when I go on
your goddamn site or I ain't spending no money.
Yeah, The reason why I say that is, for example, we we, we going
to go to whole practices. Ladies and gentlemen.
I don't look on that site and I see you looking cute and sexy.
Then I come to your door. You look like shit.
How many times I've heard so many stories.
(01:03:00):
Dude turned around and left. The point I'm trying to make is,
is the key of it is, is ladies forget keep thinking sex sales
know what sales made the most money in this business is sex
appeal. Yeah, sex appeal.
(01:03:23):
Sex appeal is the big one. Yeah, for sure.
So that's why, like I always just be.
You should have seen me like right before this podcast.
So I was like wearing a big oversized sweatshirt.
I had my pajamas and I'm like, this isn't sexy.
You, you. You'd be surprised.
You'd be surprised. Fetish.
Why people being dead? No, it's so true.
(01:03:45):
It's so true play. A little too.
Expects me to play a little. Yeah, Oh my God.
No, it's true. The things that people have
asked me to do. Oh my God.
I'm just, I don't ever king shame.
I'm not a king shamer, you know,unless obviously, unless it's
like hurting someone or something like, but damn, this
is like I got I I'm this is a whole, there's so many new
(01:04:09):
worlds that I still have no ideaabout.
Oh yeah, yes, I believe it. And guess what people?
I don't hear this sexy, gorgeousfitness up here for our people.
And we, as you can see, we couldhave went for two more hours.
Because I really thought. Of So you know, that means I got
to ask the $1,000,000 question. Smokers.
(01:04:31):
Jess B, can I call you a smoke buddy?
There you go. So she'll be back on the smokers
lounging people. You know she's coming to the
place where the conversation gets saucy.
The tits pop out, dildos might pop out.
You don't know what might pop off unless she's described on
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That's why they call it big country, you feel me?
And also on Spotify. I got you covered over there,
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talk to the industry's top male towns and producers about the
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off the top of my Dong somage has been on there.
My man had to Alfonzo ladies Reese ride out and even even had
some Asian persuasion with my man David Lee.
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He was even, you know, you know,doing the thing with, you know,
the little Kung Fu staff and. Shit talking.
He was, he was gangster, you feel.
So whether it's savage smoke or premium smoke, either way, get
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Just be 716 VIP if you don't want any PPV.
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Oh my God there's so many now I swear.
But just be 716 on all platforms.
So people, where did we smoke over today?
What did you learn 'cause I liketo educate as well as I
(01:06:42):
entertain. Well, let me tell you what I
think you learned or you should have learned is that no matter
what level you do this business takes work, time and
persistence. You have to take it seriously.
We sit here, we listen to these news and articles about these
ladies. They make millions of dollars.
This, that, the third. But see, here's the thing, the
(01:07:05):
key is not that I made $1,000,000 in 2025.
Would I be making $1,000,000 in 2026202728?
It takes you evolving and understanding and how to move
into business. I find it funny that they always
talk shit when they say, well, if you do this, you're going to
end up doing this, you end up doing this, you're going to end
(01:07:26):
up doing this. But I hate to tell you this,
guess what porn is for a lot of these ladies and give these
ladies the grace of sexual discovery.
It's something y'all would neverunderstand because part of our
job is discover what we into sexually and export it for
(01:07:46):
money. There are a lot of things that
I've done for like a like first.Yeah, you know period shoot and
the reason why because it allow us to be that way, especially
these day and age now because ofcontent creation.
Y'all heard the stories. I was when them girls had to go
to Hollywood, they may not be inthe anal bin and found out that
(01:08:08):
they got two anal scenes. This area's allowed the people
to have more control, but the biggest problem is the
responsibility with that controlbecause one mistake can change
multiple people's lives. See understand if you actually
be in this business and for yourcivilians, they don't
understand. 1 positive test shuts down the whole industry.
(01:08:36):
Billions, not 1,000,000 billionsis lost because you have to
retest, you have to reshoot, youhave to reschedule.
People are lost. You know how many times people
was at the conventions and therewas a stoppage?
You didn't went all the way to New Jersey.
Spend all that goddamn money. You can't shoot that day.
And then the sad part is, you know, I found out and how the
(01:09:00):
fuck I found out because I wouldn't be in New Jersey and
someone actually tried to do that shit and got found out.
Yeah. No, I know.
Yes, Yeah, people will be takingtests.
Well, OK. So if you have time for one more
story, I don't know. If you go ahead, go.
Ahead. Go ahead.
OK, so when I first started out doing collabs and stuff, this is
(01:09:21):
back in October, I didn't know. So when you go get tested,
right, you get AQR code like that you that you scan like you
when you're test, when you're going to be shooting with
somebody, you take your QR code out and you present it to them.
So that way can they can scan itand they can verify that your
test is correct. So I didn't know that.
(01:09:42):
So the very first but one of theone of the first people that I
shot with faked his fucking testand I had no idea.
Thankfully everything was fine and I came back clean but it was
because he didn't want to pay for it I'm pretty sure.
Now it's the point now to keep it 1 honey.
See y'all love when we go on tangent, don't you?
Even with the health department I can go online and show you my
(01:10:03):
shit. See that's the other part.
It's like dog fuck that. If y'all got a laptop at the
shoe, fuck a QR code motherfucker, pull your shit up.
Pull it up. I will literally log in right in
front of you. Here you go.
There you go. That's it.
I didn't see. I didn't know any of that.
I was so naive. But see, the point being is once
(01:10:25):
again, as you can see, as you can see, it's a business that
you got to take serious because this is the one business where
wolves could be in sheep clothing.
Yeah, so. And they know how to, they know
how to sweet talk like they knowexactly what to say.
Yeah. That's why the one thing that
(01:10:45):
men and women must not see here coming to this business only for
and that is for Dick and pussy. Can you come in it to make money
and you sit. Let me make this clear up
caveat. Seriously want to make money?
You're going to move as such. Simple as that.
(01:11:07):
So oh about y'all learned what y'all learned what y'all need to
get. I can't wait to get her into the
pre and smoke room because yes Lord you see that wiggle wiggle
dribble jiggle. So with that being said, you
know we eat these things all dayevery day.
Life is a learning experience. What's the point being
experienced if you haven't learned anything?
Smoke this over. Say goodbye to him, Jess B.
(01:11:30):
Bye everyone, can't wait to be on it again.
Cool. And how we start, 'cause, 'cause
like I said, I at me, it's not about in in pretty this way.
They see you suck Dick, they seeyou take Dick, they see you get
fucked and see you eat pussy andeverything the fuck else.
But they don't get deceived. The brain, which to me is the
sexiest part of a woman. Oh, I appreciate that.
(00:20):
And how you doing today? I am good, very good.
I do appreciate you reschedulingtoo.
I was. I was down for the count last
week. Oh my gosh.
Trust me, you know the the smokers.
No, I I go through a lot of re rescheduling because it happens.
Yeah. Even my ass cancelled sometimes
(00:41):
because I'm sorry like today. I've been asleep all day.
I supposedly recorded something for for today, for May the 4th,
for Star Wars shit and. Oh, May 4th, right?
Yeah, I which I as I posted a live, but I'm going to do it
later on tonight. Yeah, well, that's what some
days are for. Some days are for catching up on
(01:02):
sleep and relaxing and so you'refine.
So how was it working with my friend Sammage?
Because. Y'all Sammage?
She's one of my faves. He's amazing.
He's great. It's he's so fun Every, it's
like every time we're every timewe're in the same area together,
like he's always, he always wanted to work with me and I
(01:24):
just so appreciate that, which like we just have good energy.
Like he's, he's, he's such a good human.
Oh, yeah, and, and now is it safe to say that you're a
Buffalo Bills fan? I see a lot of Buffalo Bills.
Yes, of course. Yes.
Oh my God, yeah. And this is just a little bit of
(01:46):
it too, like it's all over the place, so.
So for you were you so like who came up with the idea to do the
'cause I think I did some type of scene about the the game with
Kansas City and the Bills, I take it, or something that
nature or. That was my idea so.
Cares about it. Yeah, so I always wanted to do
(02:11):
my, I always want to do a gang bang and I wanted to do
something cool and I want to do something, you know, grabby, no
pun intended, you know, I want to do something that would like
get people's attention. So sports obviously or it's
going to get people's attention.So and I'm a huge sports fanatic
(02:33):
and I knew that around the time that I wanted to schedule the
gangbang was going to be NFL playoff time.
So I was like, this is kind of perfect.
So I asked a bunch of people, you know, you know, the people
that I know that are really big football fans, hey, do you want
to participate in this? If you do bring your jersey,
(02:53):
whatever. So it worked out good.
And then one of the guys, Chocolate Beast, who was in the
gang bang, was like, hey, I knowsub girl, she's a big Bills fan.
And I was like, yeah, ask her ifshe wants to be involved.
And then and then it turned intothat.
And also Marie Fox is a big Bills fan.
So like it ended up being the three of us.
So it wasn't really a game. It was more like an orgy, but
(03:17):
but yeah, that's. That's what they trans out to
Maria, trans out to both Maria and Sub Girl I both had on the
show. Yeah.
And 'cause I, I remember when I saw you, Maria, I was like, you
see, I haven't gone y'all to do a scene where y'all could be
sisters. No, my God, it's so funny.
Everyone has said that like we did a scene.
(03:38):
Listen, we did a scene. It was a completely impromptu
scene at one of a collab house that we were at.
And we just had a her and I werethe only ones in the hot tub and
we were surrounded by guys and we just did like it was
impromptu. We just didn't plan it.
It just happened. And it's so funny when we watch
it, like all of our friends are like there are times where I
can't tell which which one of you is doing.
(04:00):
And it's so funny. I know.
And we've we've actually talked about it too.
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Yeah, people progress. So now you just heard she loved
the Buffalo Bills as much as sheloved gangbangs.
She's a freaky nasty. The legs go all the way up.
She might look innocent, but trust me, this ancient lady is
probably one of the dirtiest sluts in the business and I'm
going to shove and let this gorgeous lady introduce herself.
(06:15):
Hi everyone, I'm Jess B Or just be 716.
Just be 716 on all of my platforms, Instagram, Twitter,
only fans, money, bids, fans, Lee, all the good stuff.
And, and what's interesting is that like the, the, the, the
thing that you did with Sub Girland Marie Fox, both of them are
(06:40):
like machines. Oh my God.
How are you able to keep up? A prayer no, they're great it
you know, their energy is very similar to mine so even though
like they're kind of I don't want to say I hate the using the
(07:01):
word veterans, but you know whatI mean like they've been in this
a little bit longer than me so it's it was easy for me to be
able to play off their energy and stuff and we found a really
good balance like it's it's fun and learning from them I see
what they do you know it it was it honestly was an honor working
with them so. So speaking about, since you say
(07:23):
you ain't been so long, let's goback in The Time Machine.
How did just be just be just be in the industry?
So I, I have been modeling for friends for a while.
Nothing risque, just fun stuff, you know, photographer friends.
(07:46):
And it's actually kind of a sad story, but it's, it's good now.
But I had a pretty good following on Twitter for a while
because of the bills stuff like we call like we call bills
Twitter, like bills, the bills mafia, the bills fans like we
(08:08):
have like a pretty good community.
So I started like doing this thing where I would post just
like sexy game day photos, like go bills, you know, and for a
while I would get people in my DM saying, do you have an only
fans? Like what's your where's your
link? And I'm like.
I don't know, it's funny how like you can be posting pictures
you looking sexy in the. Right, It's so funny, right?
(08:32):
It's so funny. And I'm just like, I never
really thought to like monetize that.
I it was just, I was kind of just doing it for fun, you know,
so well and then in March of 2022, I ended up having to have
surgery. I ended up having a
hysterectomy, but it's fine. Everything's fine.
But I'm a hairdresser. That's my day job.
So during the recovery, I don't get PTO.
(08:56):
I'm my own boss. I don't get PTOI don't get, I
don't get aid from the state, you know what I mean?
I don't get any of that stuff. So I ended up having a GoFundMe
to pay for my bills because I'm going to be out for six weeks,
right? So what the fuck am I going to
do, you know? And this was like, I couldn't
plan it. It just happened like the
surgery, I needed to have it like sooner rather than later
(09:18):
before like things metastasize, whatever.
So I have the GoFundMe and it was great.
Thank. I thank everybody who who
contributed. I was able to pay my bills, but
that was it. It just covered my bills.
And so I'm kind of sitting thereand I'm just like, what can I
do? And only fans is kind of like in
the back of my head like do. Only fans do only things.
(09:40):
And so I'm like, OK, I guess. And that's how I started.
I started doing that and here weare you.
Know so so so when you began Only fans, what type of content
was you doing? Oh my God, it's so funny.
Like looking back or thinking back on it and I'm just like,
(10:00):
this is so cringe. Like I was like it was just
purely solo stuff. But like when I first first
started like my first month, like Oh my God, I just was
selling like fucking topless photos for like $10 apiece.
It was fucking hilarious. And now I'm like.
They were buying that shit. Won't be.
What's that? They were buying that shit
won't. Be Oh my God.
Like hotcakes, you know, Obviously.
(10:21):
Like I feel like everyone you say, what year was it again?
2022. Yeah.
So we would just really come outthat pandemic.
We were just coming out of pandemic and I think that since
I had such a good platform already, like it was easy for me
to like transition to that and like guys were like so willing
to pay that. And now like I said, it's just
so funny. Like I $10.00 for a titty
(10:43):
picture. I wish you know so, my God.
So, so when you start doing yoursolos, OK one, do you enjoy
doing so? Did you do solos?
Because one that was the easiestcontent that you can do at that
time. Yeah.
Or OK, then yeah, because I knowsome females use solo as the
(11:06):
easy explainable way to get intoporn just in case of people find
out. Yeah, I'm more ashamed of what
they're doing. They just and and they just want
a easy way not to be looking at funny, but go ahead.
Yeah, basically. Well, OK, so here's the thing,
right? Is that like I this whole world
of like only fans and collaborations and in content
(11:28):
houses, I had no fucking idea. I had, no, I was so naive.
I was like, Yep, OK, like solo, I guess, you know, And to be
fair, I live born and raised in Buffalo, so Buffalo's not a big
city. It's not like where it's like
New York or Miami or LA or anything like that, where it's
(11:49):
like content creators are like every other fucking person, you
know, we don't have them here. It's very rare to find them
here. So like I didn't know that world
even existed for like a a long time, at least two years.
But see, But see, you wasn't thinking about actively pursuing
(12:10):
the porn babies you get. What I'm saying, I mean, I just
was like, OK, this is going to be fun side thing, but no, not
at first. Not at first, no.
So solo stuff was like the only thing that I really had.
I didn't have anything else, youknow, So that's what I was.
Doing When did you figure out that filming the solo wasn't as
(12:32):
easy as it looked that these other girls made look?
Oh my God, immediately, like thefirst solo that I ever took, I
like go back and I look and I'm just like, Oh my God, I'm like,
I sold this on there. It was like lighting and angles
and editing and like, and I was like, I would like watch the
era. I would like kind of like follow
(12:52):
these girls on like their socialmedias and they're like, Oh
yeah, this is like, I'm setting aside like 8 hours to do some
solo stuff and I'm like 8 hours.I'm like, it takes me 10
minutes. Well, no fucking wonder Why?
Because my, because my quality was so bad.
Yeah. So yeah.
Yeah, because people don't realize it's like it's one
(13:16):
because you have no one to bounce off of this one.
So it's it's it's a harder sale.And 2:00 you got to position
yourself to where they can really see the Dick going into
the pussy and so forth. But you got a on top of that
being got a cameraman. Now you got to angle that shit
on a trap. On a tripod, on a phone, You
know what I mean? Like it's just in.
(13:36):
The tripod it just post the phone up.
It was literally like, I'm goingto, I'm going to set my phone
down on my night stand. And like you should have said,
it was so funny. Like the way that I had my legs.
I had my one leg on the wall andone leg on my fucking headboard.
Like it was, it was hilarious. It was hilarious.
Oh my God. So now when did you decide you
(14:00):
wanted to drift into Boy Girl? And how did you go about finding
your first collab sheets and so forth?
And how did you find out about collaboration?
So once I re, this is going to sound foment, but once I
realized that, like I had AI hada lot of requests for boy girl
content and I'm just like, well,I don't know what to do like I
(14:23):
and I had so I owe. I've always been freaky.
So like I always like had guys like record us like when we
like, you know, just because it's fun.
It's fun to watch them and look back.
It's hot, right. So I had a couple on my phone
and there's a few that I knew that I could not get to help me
(14:45):
monetize because they are, I don't public figures.
So like I knew that I couldn't, but like the ones that are just
like, you know, just fun hookups.
I would ask them. I I'd be like, hey, so we have
this video. I know this is weird, but like,
could I like get you to sign a release form and could I sell
it? And surprisingly I got a good
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response from that. So I was like, cool.
And then I ended up going to Miami for a Bills game and while
I was down there, I was like, I should look to see if there's
anybody in the area that does only fans content.
So where did I go? I went to Reddit because that
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was the only thing that I knew at the time.
That was the only. I'm still learning Reddit.
Maybe because I'm old, but I'm still learning Reddit.
Honestly, yeah. So I went to Reddit and I just,
I found the sub community only fans collabs.
And so I posted in there. I was like, hey, I'm going to be
in Miami for a couple days if anyone's interested.
And I ended up linking up with somebody down there.
We ended up not even making content.
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We're still friends and we stillsee each other to this day, but
we still have not made content together.
This was wild. But he was the one that was like
kind of telling me about it here.
You could do this, you could do it this way, you could do it
that way. And he's awesome.
And but then, like, he was putting together a content trip.
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And I was like, a content trip. What the fuck is that?
And so he was like, yeah, you can come.
We were supposed to go. And so he threw us into this
telegram group with a bunch of different creators.
And that is where I met my very,very dear, dear friend, Bella
Bear, the petite professor. And she was the one, she took a
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chance on me. Like she was the one that
invited me to come to Exotica New Jersey 2024 for the first
time. She invited me to her collab
house in December. Like, and that is when I really
like, shit. This is how this fucking shit
works, OK? Like, that is really where I
learned like, what a collab is, what a collab house is like, You
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know what I mean? Like consent testing, Like
that's where I learned everything.
And that was when that trip, that trip to New Jersey, the
first one in October was when I,I actually, I'll never forget.
I actually came back and I had atherapy session like the the
week after and I said to my therapist, I'm like, this is
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going to sound crazy, but I'm like, I think I finally thought
like figured out where I'm supposed to be in my life
because it was so fun and I feltso good.
And it just was like the people that I met were like phenomenal.
Jay Black, You know, it was just, they were, it was just it,
that was it for me. That was that was like signed,
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sealed, delivered, like I'm going to be in this.
Business so basically let me butbefore then did you have I mean
other than the play videos that you did with your friends?
Yeah, you didn't even start doing the the pro stuff until
what that that trip for the mostpart.
Yeah, Like I did have someone come up to Buffalo to shoot with
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me. Darren Blaze.
He did pop up here. But even then I didn't know
anything. Like even then I was like, he
was like saying things like he would say certain terms that we
use in the in the in the industry.
And I was like, what? I'd be like, what are you
saying? Like I had no idea.
So that that was like really like my first collab, but truly
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it was like, it was like, it waslike in September, October of
last year was when I really likegot into it so.
So have you done a content houseyet?
Have I ran one? Are you?
Asking, I mean have you done oneat content house?
Oh, I've been to a few, yeah. So now have you also done any
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pay gigs? Yes.
OK then. OK so now with that being said,
I always talk about the difference between the paid
gigs, the content trade gigs. Yeah.
And for you, because you were doing content before you did
paid, Yeah. What's on the misconceptions
that got broken in your mind when you did the paid shoot
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based off of content sheets? Oh, that's a really good
question. Truthfully, like I my page, I I
want to, I want to reiterate my page shoot was not a pro shoot.
So I feel like the pro, I have not done a pro shoot yet, but I
do know that they're very. Different, but it's still a
difference in the paid versus content.
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Yeah, so basically when I went in for my page shoot, I did it
with Rodney St. Cloud.
He's phenomenal. Love him.
Could not recommend him enough. He is.
Really. I saw that video, he's one of my
favorites. He's.
So great, like he just was like,not only was he like great to
work with, but he is just like an incredible human being.
He was like, I'll pick you up from the airport, I'll take you
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to your air. I mean like he just was so
amazing. Like he was such an amazing
person. So, so the difference was like
he had like obviously like a full script, like he had like a
whole layout of what he wanted he bought.
You know, my clothes that he wanted me to wear like he had
this whole like he cuz like he, he has a, he has a website.
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He hasn't, he has an image like he has a thing.
So it had to it had to go along with that.
Like, whereas like collabs, it'slike we're trying to figure out
like what we want to do. Like do we want to do something
that is just a gonzo, which is like we just get into it or do
we want a storyline? Like are you going to be a pizza
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delivery guy? You know what I mean?
Like it's a collaboration where as the page shoot, it's like,
Nope, like he's going to tell you exactly what to do and how
to do it. And this is how long we're going
to shoot for. And the equipment obviously is
much more professional. He had a cameraman, he had a
stylist there. Like it was.
It was. It was.
Different he he shoots, he shoots like a professor of
studio. He's just now when it comes to
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the motion of the actual sex scenes, because I know we well,
I'm pretty sure he does it similar to how y'all would if
y'all fucking doing a content trade where both of y'all patrol
the action. He ain't got no one directing
it, you know, period, because a lot of people know that when
it's directed, their timing, thepositions and so forth and so
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forth. So for you and he also gave
pretty girl pictures for the shoot is correct, right.
So for you had working with him shaped what you do moving
forward, Because a lot of times when you shoot with someone of
their style, it makes you think about how do I it makes you
let's keep going. It makes you change how the fuck
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you do shit. It does actually, and this is
going to sound crazy. This is like one of the big
things, right? Like, he's clearly very
experienced. He's been in this industry for a
very long time. Like, he knows what he's doing.
And if anyone has ever seen his content, like he's got a monster
Dick, right? And so he does.
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And so there are some guys out here doing content that like
will just kind of jackhammer theshit out of your pussy.
And it's just like, you know, And like, that's fine.
But like that shit hurts, you know, like so like, like and
when he pulled this Dick out in front of me for the first time,
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I was like, I was literally likeI even said he he saw it all
over my face. I was like, you are going to
break me in half. Like please be careful because I
have a week long shoot. Like I have so many more shoots
that I have to do. And if I'm sore like I'm he was
like girl, and he really was so fucking respectful.
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Like he didn't he say he? Does sensual sex?
He is so. Experienced with that, yeah, he
does sensual sex. He's he's not we if people go
look at Rodney, Rodney don't # the girls, no, Rodney, he, he
works them over. He yes, he's sensual, slow and
methodical, but see, that's because that old school, the elk
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that we came from, because he, he, he came out a little bit
after me. We were taught that one.
If you want to get the Dick in the pussy action, you can't #
her because we can't see how much of a Dick she's actually
taking. You can't face fuck her the
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whole time she's sucking your Dick because we want to know how
much of the Dick she's actually taking and and we want to see
her play with the Dick. You know what I'm saying?
It's it Yes it this generation don't know how to change your
pace. No, that is absolutely correct.
Now granted there are some, you know, creators that are much
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more experienced than others, but you nailed it.
Like he is like it was like. But I knew that coming in though
it it it my first shoot was winning pro and we that ain't
pounding brace off of her shit like you coming and saying shit.
You might need to take your ass to Hollywood.
I'm just saying. Right, I feel like sometimes the
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guys like pound the pussy because they think it looks
better on camera. And it that might be true.
That might, you know, for some, but truthfully, like so like I
had a shoe, it was like 1, maybelike my third or fourth shoe at
AVN and I was sore for the rest of the fucking week.
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And so like the rest of my shoots, I just was like, you got
to take it easy on me. I'm super sore but well, and I'm
like that shit sucks like that sucks because I'm.
Broken the way I used to work. They say me and you work
together. I brought you to North Carolina,
we working all weekend. So I need you fresh for these
other shoots I'm not going to pound the brakes off of.
You exactly, exactly. That's exactly it.
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It was like respectful. So now since I've had that, like
I've been with somebody who's been so experienced, like like
Rodney is like I go into my shoots and I tell them I'm like,
listen, like I'm going to do it like this first.
Like you need to do it like this.
So that way like I'm not fuckingsore for the rest of the.
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Week and see and see what and what you doing is you're now
shaping your brand because how you fuck is part of your brand
as well people. Yeah.
See, people understand that who you fuck and how you fuck is
actually a big part of your brain.
Yeah, you know, period. You have the females, they can
get off on getting roughed up and stuff like that.
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But also I'm actually this, the females understand their look
and what I mean by their look isthis.
Some females, when you look at them, you don't want to pound
the shit out of them. They did.
The fans want to see them get love made to them.
Sensual sex. There's some females that guys
want to see her as. You get flooded out like a
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motherfucker. Yeah.
Yeah. So for you, what look do you
think you fall under? That is a really good question.
What? Look.
Oh my God. Probably the latter.
Like I feel like guys wanna like, see me get fucked up.
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I don't know. I don't know, truthfully.
Like for example, right, do yourrough scenes because I know you
do have rough scenes, rough sex scenes.
I've some, yeah. Yeah, some how they do with how
they go over with your fans versus your other stuff.
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Yeah, OK, so that was what I wasgoing to say.
I think most of my fans like to see me in a sensual, more like
sensual way. I do have some fans that are
like I do. I do have some fans that are
like, Oh my God, like you're such, you're such a slut, blah,
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blah. But then like, you know, like
most of my fans are like, Oh my God, like seeing you come was
just like so amazing and what, you know what I mean?
Like I just feel like it's almost like a personal thing for
them. You know what it is?
This is going to sound really weird and I feel like a lot of
people might not understand thisbecause of where they were
raised or whatever, but Buffalo,most most of my fans are from
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Buffalo. Most of them.
And I think that the, the reasonwhy they like to see me more in
a central way is because they think that I'm attainable
because I live in the same fucking city as them.
And Buffalo is not like a, it's not a tiny city, but it's not
huge either, you know. So I think that that's what it
is. Like I've been stopped, you
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know, in the street being like, Oh my God, you're just me.
Like they like people know me, you know, So I feel like they
are going to fuck. They want to see me get fucked
the way that they are going to fuck.
See, not because you come down to it.
I keep telling ladies we fantasize even when we got the
jerk off, we fantasize what thisleak, what led to her wanting to
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fuck me and I think that got lost in this era is a fantasy
aspect. No matter how much you want to
see him talk about authenticity and real sex, it's still a
fantasy because they're living by curiously to you, by
watching. Yeah, yeah, I, I, I absolutely
agree with that. Like it is.
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And that's actually one of the biggest compliments that I get
from my fans is like, Oh my God,you're so authentic, such an
authentic person. And I'm like, I don't know how
else to be. I'm not fake, you know what I
mean? Like I can't be fake.
If I was fake, you would know itlike I would be, you know what I
mean? Like I'm not a bad actor, so.
So with that being said, becausewhen it comes to picking the
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guys for your content because when we talk about being real
and authentic, y'all know we already talked about one of the
criterias of why we pick who we pick for content trade Yeah So
if you want to fuck them, what do you take into account over
the net? Their attitude, you know, like
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how they approach me is a huge thing, you know, because like I
get people in my DMS. Oh my God, they're so
respectful. They have this like long thing.
Hi, I am so and so and I do content and I would love to work
with you if you're interested, you know, and then I have guys
in my DM being like, let's collab or let's fuck, let's, you
know what I mean? I'm like, that's like one of the
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big things is just like how you approach, you know, like I know
that I'm a porn star, but like I'm also a human being.
Like I deserve respect sort of thing.
So that's a big one. And also like just their general
look, like I am tall on five 7. And so yeah, so I like having,
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you know, someone like as big asI am, I guess you know what I'm
saying, Like so. You you you you lose some
height. What's that I?
Mean yeah, you you want to be 5-9 or better.
I mean, yes, but honestly, like I don't mind a short king, like
I like a short king. It's just like, I don't want to
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be my look. Personally, I don't wanna look
like an Amazon I. Can say.
You know what I mean? Like I don't wanna look like I'm
about to mother the bigger. Person in the room.
Right. So like I mean, if you're a
short king, great. Like I love a short king but
like have some girth to you so that way I don't look like I'm
about to smother you if I get ontop.
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Which goes back to like I said, I gotta put this, females act
like they're scared to say thereis a certain type man that they
want for content versus fuck personally.
Yeah, you feel where I'm coming from.
Yeah, because it's it's it's a difference, just like his
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boyfriend Dick and porn Dick. It's it's the look that I will
fuck off camera is not necessarily the same look I will
fuck on camera. Yeah, no, it's true.
No, that's absolutely true. Like I have many guys that I
would love to like hook up with off camera, but I would never
put them on camera because theirlook just isn't what my image is
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going, you know what I mean? Like it's just not going to jive
well, but yeah, like I mean, I could give you a perfect
example. Like I don't know, like he's an
up and Comer as in Damson Jenkins.
Like he is like that is the typelike tall brown skin, you know,
like just in shape like that is a perfect, you know, or like
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even like Shorty's world. Like, I don't know if you know,
Shorty 666, I think he's 6667. And I'm just like, I'm so tall
that I was like when I like met him for the first time, I was
like, Oh my God, I feel like a little terrib in your arms, you
know? So that juxtaposition is always
so good. The taller ones the better
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because I'm tall, you know, on camera it's gonna look so good
if you're tall and it cuz I'm tall, you know.
But no, I don't mind a short king.
I love, I love short guys. She she she she's trying to be
nice to her short. Well, y'all short king because
I'm, I'm 510 so I'm, I'm good. I'm at least three inches tall.
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I don't, but just like. But I'm.
Tall we're. Just like you have to understand
that like I consider short king like 5-6 or shorter because I am
tall, whereas someone a girl who's 5/3 might consider 5-6
tall because it's tall. You know what I mean?
So. It's still about to get in
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contrast because even to the point it just look no different
in like with interracial porn, majority of time, especially on
the mainstream level, it's goingto be a a smaller white girl
with big tall black dude. Yeah, it just looks bigger.
And I'm thick too. Like I got, I got some.
Oh yes. I'm thick as fuck.
So I'm like, if you're like a little tiny little thing, I'm
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going to. I'm going.
To don't worry team smokers, I know I hear y'all She will be
coming to the premium smoke roomso we can see how the thickness
Yes, we are because trust me, I've seen the page.
Damn thank you. Like I said, she she just close
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to get to on the list of come out.
We will come out of retirement for a lady.
You know what I'm saying? Oh that would be fun.
Because it's like a lot of stuff.
I look at your page, I see you into.
I'm into. So because I see you somewhere
into BDSM. Yeah.
She's a real nasty freak. I love it.
So now let's talk. Because you talk gangbang,
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right? Yeah.
And this is the year of motherfucking gangbangs.
Why have gangbangs became so popular within the industry and
why so many girls are living to shoot them?
That's a really good question. Gangbangs are just fun.
I like I said, I did my first gangbang.
Well, I did my first gangbang organized gangbang with sub girl
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and Marie Fox like I said, but Iactually did a gangbang like the
day before in the house is it was at ABN and I just happened
to be the only girl in this house full of like very
beautiful black men. And I was like, hey, are you
guys free right now? Like let's do this.
So that was really fun. So that one was just me.
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But then I did the one with Marine sub girl and then sub
girl actually just asked me to do one with her in Chicago.
And I in that one though. So the one that we did before
was with other content creators,the one in Chicago that sub
world did. She's the queen of fucking
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gangbangs. Her Anne Marie Fox.
She does them all the time. That one was the.
Regular and go for it like this right?
If there was a Mount Rushmore ofgangbangs right now.
There she is. Young two names and add Rebel
Rider in it. Yeah, yeah.
And. She got three holes.
Yeah, I think he does three holes too.
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No, they all do. I'm the only.
Guy. Listen, I did not think that sub
world would even want to like doit just because like I actually
don't do anal. I don't I don't do it.
And so there was a few times like I was like, hey, so like I
know like you're asking me to dothis gang thing, but like I
don't do anal. I know you do.
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And when it comes to like actuallike sex, you can't go from ass
to anything else because you're going to fuck up, you know, pH
whatever. And so.
See. Wait, the way you had to do it
because even when we film so people understand this me of
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course you had to make sure ass was clean and what have you.
But after I did anal, we did stop now.
Now we did ass to mouth but thatwas her choice right?
But me when he came going back in that couch where one at the
time is especially when I get the condom.
I still wouldn't wash my Dick off but I go wash my Dick off
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then we come back and pick it back.
Which we appreciate very. Much.
Yeah, because it don't take muchto throw off a woman's pH
people. No, Oh my God, fucking magnum
condoms throw my pH off. I don't know what the fuck is
with that. Like whatever, it doesn't
matter. But anyway, so I did tell her
and she was like, oh girl, no, Ijust won't do anal.
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It's fine. Like she just like they were so
I don't know. Because like they even said like
she was like, there's no use in explaining like you can't go
from my ass to her vagina and like you can't, she's like, so
we're I just won't do it. And she just was like, it just
was so great. Like, I just like, I felt like,
you know, because I felt like I was going to like take away
something from her and she was like, girl, no, like she
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literally was like, Oh my God, don't even worry about it, you
know? And it was really sweet.
So. So yeah, she actually.
And then I actually just she, the, the guy who organizes them
for her actually just reached out to me yesterday and asked me
that she wants to do another onewith me.
So I was like, OK, shit. So I honestly.
So, so I'm actually what's the most numbers of Dicks you took
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during the game? Bang.
That one was 15 1515 guys and then me and sub girl.
Yeah. So I'll be honest though, like I
I know that they're like kind ofstarting to get like a little
bit more popular, but like before I was even a porn star,
like I liked watching gangbang porn.
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Yeah, myself. So I'm just like, I've always,
that was always a fantasy of mine is doing gangbanging.
But see. But see what what blowing my
mind for me coming from when I started it never been this pop
actuality it was probably I daresay the most rarest of porn that
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you saw was the gang bangs. Right.
It was almost like the only the only ones, the only gang bangs
you could find on the porn siteswere like the like black
professional ones. Like no one was doing amateur
ones. Like it wasn't popular.
At the time it wasn't American, it was actually from Germany,
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the 3GS. I'm going to be honest, you want
to know something crazy. This is something that I don't,
I don't know if I've ever like admitted this, but whenever I
used to watch porn, like becauseI I've been, you know, I've been
watching porn since I was like 16, I would mute it because I
could not stand the fucking fakemoaning from the girls.
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Like I would just be like, this is so fucking fake because I
would always end up watching prostuff like I wouldn't watch the
amateur. And so it wasn't until I started
getting into this that I'm like,damn amateur is where it's at
because they're not fucking fake, you know, so.
Yeah, it's, it's, it's to me. Well, when I started way earlier
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than you watching porn. I was a late bloomer.
I was in 11 years old and I saidto this day I will never forget
the name of that damn and saw all three all three of us a
trilogy young lady Chatterley and and I tell people this the
point that you watch shakes the point that you do if you do this
business. No, it is I saw them kissing,
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touching. They was working around the
clothes sexy shit. They was wearing heels, you
know, And to me, I think that what happened.
Is that because it became so microwavable and people want to
become viral that the quality ofpoint has kind of been lost, You
know, but not realizing that that's short term gain, but
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you're not going to gain long term because they always come
back to date. People want to see storytelling
they want. To see Yeah, yeah.
They always like the stories. It's always, always was like,
you know, like all the DVDs werelike, oh, you know, the the
spoofs, like what were they? Oh my God, I was actually just
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trying to think of something theother day like shaving Ryan's
privates instead of like, you know what I mean?
Like those like spin like those like spoof of like the big
movies like like Pirates of the Caribbean did like a soft porn.
I'm sorry, that's one of the greatest points ever made.
The Pirates of the Caribbean oneThe Pirates is probably in my
opinion and I get anyone to fight this with the greatest
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porn. Wasn't it soft core though?
It no is no. Let me break this down to you.
OK? They had to chop it up into
different versions because see this is the reason why you shoot
with major companies ladies. They haven't distributed shit
worldwide to make money, especially the DVDs because
America is the only country where only fans is popping.
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Sorry to bust your bubble. Yeah.
If you want international you have to go clips for sale buy
digress. Clips for sale.
Yeah, I do have that. Yeah, so only fans own one week
is popping that. That's what I'm saying.
That's autumn Girls is number one in in Europe.
They're making money off of us. I didn't.
I didn't even know that that's. Crazy.
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Yeah. So they had a hardcore.
I remember seeing the extra scene with Belladonna.
Oh my. I love you Belladonna and her.
I forgot who else it was, but they had a hardcore, you see the
Dick going in the pussy, the cumshot and all that.
Then they had the shit that was Playboy and they had the shit
they didn't have. None of that because each
country you can't, you can distribute your porn, but like
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for example Japan might say something like you can't show
ejaculation so you can't show the pop shot.
A different world. From countries you can't, you
can show everything but penetration.
So that's why they came out withthe softcore version.
Right. Which was no penetration.
It was just like, they're just like a bunch of tastes.
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Well, they showed fucking, but it wasn't fucking, you know what
I mean? Like it was like under a blanket
sort of thing. And it just was like, that's
interesting. How do you not know that?
I was such a late bloomer. I didn't fucking know that I.
Told you I'm a historian, this shit and I talked.
You don't understand. I talked to the producers and
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the directors and the the top guys.
I used to say girls to them to work for paid gigs and then we
used to break it down to them. They don't want to tell me about
with DVDs. There was like that why I knew
like certain countries where I knew the DVDs sold.
I said OK, they accept my Type 1.
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Like I sold shit in Afghanistan.Oh, anything that had an Army
base, I sold it. Brazil.
German. Ireland.
That's just good. And a whole goddamn fans of
interracial couples that love myinterracial shit over in London.
I'll never get one person sent me a picture.
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They were bootlegging my shit atthe at the little the little
black market store. Really.
Yeah. That's how you know you made it.
Because when you get like the bootleggers or when you get like
the people that are like, yeah, that's so funny.
But that's true because it was like, it's so taboo in certain
countries, you know what I mean?Like it's so taboo.
Plus, like, I mean, I don't knowif you're like, especially if
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you're making content with whitewomen and selling it for what,
you know what I mean? Like it's just, yeah, so that
makes sense. That's so interesting.
So you, you, you really, you really know this business pretty
well. Yeah, pretty much.
Yeah. That was most known.
Unknown people trust belief. So now are you in the BDSM?
(44:29):
Yes and no. I yes, I should say this.
I do like light BDSM. Don't ever leave a mark on me.
I'm not like permanent mark. You know what I mean?
I do like it. OK.
I don't know what you consider this.
I feel like this is like pretty typical, but like, I know a lot
of my friends hate this shit. Like I love when guys like spit
(44:52):
on me, spit in my mouth, slap myface, choke.
Look at that smile. I like, you know, a handcuff or
two, you know, don't ever fucking tickle me.
I'll fucking kick you in the balls.
Don't ever do that. I hate that shit.
That's just trauma though. That's.
I'm sorry, like I said again, she just now made the list of
(45:13):
ladies that would come out with time.
Before don't tease me though, soso that like I said, I don't
know if that would be consideredor that maybe that's like.
No, no, it's, it's OK. Then there's people that could
be into, there's people that could be into BDSM and not be a
(45:37):
true submissive. And there's people that are the
true submissive and they end to BSM.
You get where I come from. So you might have a lady that'd
like to get spanked. You might have a lady that's
into being tired of doing all that, but she may not be what is
considered true submissive, meaning that she has submissive,
she willing to submit, she's looking for a Dom, so forth and
so forth. You know what I'm saying?
I've been to like, I've been to like sex clubs where I've
(46:00):
actually like witnessed like actual flogging and I had to
walk away. Like I just was like, I can't, I
don't. It's like something with like
the the dynamic. I just can't do that.
But that doesn't mean that I'm like shaming.
I think that's like beautiful when you find the correct
dynamic, that's amazing. But for me that's just something
(46:21):
that I can. I don't like the flogging, I
don't like the the whips, you know, I don't like don't leave a
mark on me 'cause I also mark. Very easy.
So I'm just like, if I, I, I, I'm going to tell you what she
is, right? I call her elegant slut,
arrogant slut. It's like you can't spank her,
(46:42):
but you can rough her up. Yeah, I like to be spanked, but.
Just don't. It's, it's, it's, it's more of a
I'm trying, I'm trying to find the right analogy for it's like
he, he, it's like eating the steak, but I don't need all the
(47:04):
gristle. Yeah.
So you can spank me, but don't leave a bruise is what I should
say. Like you can spank me like a
knob where you can like see yourhandprint that's hot like.
Even with that, like even when Iused to slap a girl on the ass,
(47:26):
I did it for the sound. Now, yeah, start by harder.
I'm like, OK, you, you actually.Right you.
Know what I'm saying? Even with the slap on the face,
it's, you know what I'm saying, you know, a little tap to make a
sound or what have you. Because see, even with me, it's
like now people got to realize just like with pro wrestling,
(47:46):
when they do the little chops, the kicks, you hear the, you
know, slap the knee. It's just about the sound effect
because I don't want to slap thelittle dog shower unless she's
truly my slave and she's my submissive and that what she
wants daddy to do, right? And I would gladly do so, you
know, period. But when we talk about women,
that's different. That makes sense.
(48:08):
Like my close, my close girlfriends like can't get on
board with like the spitting in the mouth or spitting and I'm
just. Like people that are willing to
do that. I wanted to get me Facebook to
pull my face back. I just dirty bitch suck my.
(48:30):
You're turning me on a little bit, I.
Don't. I told you I'm a Donald.
I just listen. I actually just was sexting with
somebody earlier and I want to read what he said, he said.
What do you say? I was sexting with somebody
earlier because this guy me and him have been hooking up like
consistently for a couple years now.
(48:50):
But he doesn't live in my area so I don't I have to catch him
when he's in town. Oh this is literally what he
said right here. He said I want to spit on your
face and suck those titties while you're riding my Dick to
come. And I was like, yes, please.
That's. That's not going to.
Do yeah, I. Can't find nobody to have fun.
But I didn't trying to get him to do porn.
(49:10):
He just won't do it. He won't do it.
He's such he would be such a good porn star.
Problem is, he's like a public. Figure I miss doing the slut
training videos. I just I, I would love to do
something like that. Because each point where and
then even like primal videos, wehad the girl, she might have the
(49:31):
anal, the the anal and the animal anal plug tails.
And then I had her crawl around and then she sucked me off and
then I busted the nut and the cat in the cat bowl and she went
and lit it like a cat. That's.
No, she likes that shit, right? No, I totally get a.
(49:53):
You know what I'm saying? No, it's so much you can do with
with that they can play off withme and that's saying that she so
will and. I would love to do like a slut
training video, something like that, but I don't know if I want
to get like that crazy with it, but like almost like instead of
like slut training or slave training, something more like to
play off like a dungeon sort of yeah, but like obviously like
(50:16):
I'm not. I don't don't what is that
thing? What is the X called?
I forget the cross. Yeah, don't hang me upside down.
Like don't do that. Just like.
See see you more you more of a sensual BDSM than hard.
But also spit in my face and call me a slut.
Yeah. I mean, no, that's part of
Central too. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
(50:38):
I mean, it it it's in there. So gosh, you got me wrapped up
over this. Moment I know I'm like OK I'm
here or what shit. So now with you being in the
business, which I'm pretty sure this never came up on the other
podcast, and I talk shit about the other podcast and most
pockets ain't going to never talk about this.
(50:59):
See, that's what I love about mypodcast, OK?
Bring. It on no one talks about the
hardest part of this business isoutside the business of our
movement. We just, we have to curb our sex
life, how we're moving the dating world, all that shit
because we have a some places onHoney City 200 three $100 test
(51:22):
that we got to pay for to chase these dollars to keep up with
making this money. So for you, when you learnt that
part, how much of an adjustment you had to make in your own
life? It actually was like almost
instant. I like I said, I used to be
(51:45):
before I mean I'm still slow, but I used to be a pretty big
slut like before this like whereI would like to try and take a
dude home yeah yes, but I've been selective like, but I
really I've been trying to like I I want a roster.
I'd be trying to like take dudeshome, you know, from bars and
(52:06):
whatever now, because if I and Ialways like, if I'm fucking
recreationally, not for work, I'm always using protection
always like that's always been astaple of mine ever since I like
start fucking, you know, whatever.
So, but even then, you know, oral chlamydia is still a thing.
(52:31):
And so I always tell if I, let'sjust put it this way, I don't
really fuck recreationally anymore.
I don't, I don't unless it's with somebody that I trust or
unless it's like with another content creator.
You know what I mean? Like we can have sex like off
camera or whatever and it's fun.But because like if I, and if I
(52:52):
do, it's like I, I tell them I'mlike, I won't suck your Dick
unless you've been tested. Because if, God forbid, if I
get, if I catch something and I have to go to work in a week or
I have to go get tested, you know, my $300.00 TTS test or
whatever and I pop for somethingand I'm not working.
I'm like, you are costing me money.
(53:12):
So I don't, I don't really date or fuck recreationally anymore,
like I said, unless it's with somebody that I trust.
Like I have a sugar daddy that I'll like hook up with, but I
he's. And see how people don't realize
it's like when these content creators come in throwing fans
his dad, yes, we're fucking, we're having sex.
(53:33):
But you want to make sure who you sticking your Dick in is
tested just as much as you are, you know, period.
Because especially if the level,as you go up in level, it
becomes more and more important.Exactly.
And even to the point where I even talked to married couples,
the husband ain't even in the business.
He got to stay tested. Yeah, no, it's true, especially
(53:57):
because a lot of people in this industry are also swingers.
So they'll go to like a community or whatever and then
like that shit, like makes me nervous.
So like the people that I like shoot with, I'm just like you.
And like, I know a lot of peopleare like, oh, I'm cool with like
a 14 day test. Not me.
You better be tested within likewithin seven days.
(54:18):
And that's even like I'm like, Iwant you to.
Truthfully, I want you to. Test you know what's funny
right, the content trade. I used to love to get another
ladies and I had some time with ladies like God you had to text
me good morning and I'm like OK one we about to fuck in a minute
and two I can't be a human. But I digress because part of
(54:40):
it, psychology and test is only as good as the last person you
fucked. Yeah.
So I like to get to know what your sex, your sex life by
conversation. Yeah.
So I know if dude is it worth megoing wrong?
(55:00):
Yeah. Or is it not because also a lot
of girls in the business, especially at that time, they
probably still do escort it. Let's give me 100 you.
Know what I mean? So it's like I said, it's just
to me, people don't realize on the outside looking in, it's a
lot that we have to give up to chase this business.
And it's just identity, people judging us know our own personal
(55:25):
sanity, life, love life, so forth and so forth.
I know I'm single and I'm singleby choice.
So like I don't really date thatmuch anymore just because like I
don't, I don't really want a partner.
And if I do find a partner, I want him to be in the industry
(55:46):
so he fucking understands because half the shit is so hard
to explain. Even when I'm talking to my
girls, I'll like tell them something that happened and I'm
like, I'm like, they're not going to get this though,
because they're not even in the like, they're not like they
didn't like they're not in the industry, you know?
So yeah, like I just, it's, it'stough.
Like I it's tough. Oh, and then like you get like
(56:09):
or if you like, you do go out ona date, right, You have to
disclose on the first date. Listen, I do only fans because
how like sometimes you either get Oh my God, what that's
crazy, or you get oh, oh, so you're.
Just like when I run down my list.
Do girls be running? I did porn.
(56:31):
I mean, I am into Polly, into swinging, yes.
I would not have an issue with you being fucked by a dude and
actually watching. It's not a problem.
Yeah, and they're like, wait, what?
They like have no idea the. Concept.
Yeah, I couldn't do the change. I'm like, I don't want you to
waste your time. Yeah, no, I'm the same way.
I like usually tell people before I even meet up with them
(56:55):
because I'm just like, if this isn't if this isn't something
that you can jive with, then I'mnot wasting my fucking time, you
know what I mean? But like I said, I don't ever
date anymore. The dates that I go on are like
sugar daddy dates. That's it.
You know what I mean? Like where it's just like not
going to be anything serious anyway.
So I'm just like, I don't really.
It's like it's crazy how almost instant it happened, like where
(57:18):
I just was like, Oh my God, I want this roster, blah, blah,
blah to all of a sudden as soon as I started doing content
houses that and I started payingfor these fucking tests that all
of a sudden I just was like, it was like it was naturally
instant too. Yeah, Yeah, I'm actually this.
I'm actually this because when you started doing the content
houses shooting with the more established did you know is a
(57:40):
difference in your traffic, a difference in your exposure,
difference in your money? Oh, big time.
Oh, big time. Yeah, the exposure part, like
all of a sudden, like I'm shooting with guys.
I've been introduced to guys whohave, you know, bigger numbers
(58:01):
on social media. And all of a sudden, like my
following went up by 2000 in a weekend and I was like, and so I
was like, this is just crazy money.
Yes, it's cyclical. I feel like you know how.
(58:22):
Many game movies in no way. The game ain't easy, no way.
Say that again, I'm. Sorry, you said the game ain't
easy. No way.
No, it's not. It's just like this economy is
like it's very cyclical. It's like up and down, up and
down, up and down. But yeah, no big time.
My following definitely grew exponentially.
(58:46):
Yeah, I mean, I'm not surprised because I mean, once again, it
goes back to your brand is part of why your brand is who you
from, because I mean, no, it it like this in order for a lady to
become a kingmaker, she has to fuck some kings to the point and
(59:07):
and and what I mean, some peopleI'm saying why I mean by
kingmaker is it is now more important for me to shoot with
Jazz B than it is for me for herto shoot with me.
That means she makes me. That what I mean by kingmaker,
you know, period. You know, because when he comes
in male talent, our bones are made off of the level of girl we
(59:28):
fuck. Yeah.
She ain't got she can get off onfucking low level dudes.
It's just when she put high level dudes it just gives her to
a different bracket and and how can I put this look?
Yeah, it's true. And I do like feel bad.
I never want to be that person that like is quote UN quote
(59:49):
clout chasing. Like I don't ever want that, but
it's true. Like if you, you know, if I'm
like shooting with people who, you know, I don't want to say
new, new is not the right word. But like if they're not, if
they're low quality, let's just say it that way.
If they're low quality, if they're like not doing and not
(01:00:11):
putting in the work to do to getthe following to get, you know,
like if they're not hustlers, I'm not going to shoot with you
because. Where is that going to put?
Where is that going to put me? Then like people are going to
look at me and be like, oh, so she's shooting with that.
You know what I'm saying? Like it's all about, I hate to
say it, but this like business, a lot of this business is all
(01:00:31):
about how you look and who and like, you know what I mean?
Like it's, it's like who you associate with who, how you
look, right? Exactly so.
She said it. Thank you.
I've been saying it. Yeah.
The aesthetics is very important.
Yeah. Because you're being paid,
you're being booked, you're being looked at, they're
(01:00:51):
spending money because you are asex symbol.
The more sexier you look of thatsymbol, the more money you will
make. A. 100% because even to the
point like I talk about this, I love Twitter pages because
Twitter Twitter to me is the biggest judge.
I don't look at IG when it comesto a lady because you're forced
(01:01:14):
to have to. No, if I see more of your pussy
than I see of your goddamn face,you missed the point.
Yeah, I agree. I agree.
Like I and I know a lot of girlswho don't even post like their
pussy on on Twitter just becauselike I mean truthfully, they
just don't like the freeloaders.But but yeah, no, it's true.
(01:01:35):
Like that's why a lot of times when these guys reach out to me
and I don't ever see their face on their on their page, I'm
like, I don't know if I want to shoot with them.
Like if I'm only seeing your Dick, I'm like.
Because you want to know why? And see, girls don't think about
(01:01:55):
this. The worst thing you can do is
kill the fantasy. And what I mean by this, right,
OK, you shot with Rodney McCloud.
Yeah, I love Rodney. Y'all must understand Rodney
McCloud is a legend in his business.
He shoots to your quality. The same quality she would get
(01:02:16):
probably. Hollywood would have you right.
Who? What's some other names of
Melton's unit shot with? Kashim shame the dream.
Yeah, he's yeah. I think he's saying he's had a
sign with Hussey. Hussey models.
Yeah, Black. It's like this, right, The way
(01:02:40):
that we get introduced to you. I better see that when I go on
your goddamn site or I ain't spending no money.
Yeah, The reason why I say that is, for example, we we, we going
to go to whole practices. Ladies and gentlemen.
I don't look on that site and I see you looking cute and sexy.
Then I come to your door. You look like shit.
How many times I've heard so many stories.
(01:03:00):
Dude turned around and left. The point I'm trying to make is,
is the key of it is, is ladies forget keep thinking sex sales
know what sales made the most money in this business is sex
appeal. Yeah, sex appeal.
(01:03:23):
Sex appeal is the big one. Yeah, for sure.
So that's why, like I always just be.
You should have seen me like right before this podcast.
So I was like wearing a big oversized sweatshirt.
I had my pajamas and I'm like, this isn't sexy.
You, you. You'd be surprised.
You'd be surprised. Fetish.
Why people being dead? No, it's so true.
(01:03:45):
It's so true play. A little too.
Expects me to play a little. Yeah, Oh my God.
No, it's true. The things that people have
asked me to do. Oh my God.
I'm just, I don't ever king shame.
I'm not a king shamer, you know,unless obviously, unless it's
like hurting someone or something like, but damn, this
is like I got I I'm this is a whole, there's so many new
(01:04:09):
worlds that I still have no ideaabout.
Oh yeah, yes, I believe it. And guess what people?
I don't hear this sexy, gorgeousfitness up here for our people.
And we, as you can see, we couldhave went for two more hours.
Because I really thought. Of So you know, that means I got
to ask the $1,000,000 question. Smokers.
(01:04:31):
Jess B, can I call you a smoke buddy?
There you go. So she'll be back on the smokers
lounging people. You know she's coming to the
place where the conversation gets saucy.
The tits pop out, dildos might pop out.
You don't know what might pop off unless she's described on
(01:04:54):
Loyal fans. I'm talking about the premium
smoke room four, I mean four wonderful premium podcast for
you to enjoy that we drop weeklyalso special events know the VIP
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to time. I got some coming that way on
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(01:05:15):
ladies dirt work because big Dicks go in the sticks.
That's why they call it big country, you feel me?
And also on Spotify. I got you covered over there,
right? Let's see, we got had to smoke
on it where I give my unapologetic, controversial and
commentary rants, whatever it isabout some stuff that I feel
like talking about that moment, as well as savage smoke as I
(01:05:39):
talk to the industry's top male towns and producers about the
industry. We give you some of that real,
real smoke. Some of the people just to name
off the top of my Dong somage has been on there.
My man had to Alfonzo ladies Reese ride out and even even had
some Asian persuasion with my man David Lee.
(01:05:59):
He was even, you know, you know,doing the thing with, you know,
the little Kung Fu staff and. Shit talking.
He was, he was gangster, you feel.
So whether it's savage smoke or premium smoke, either way, get
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Just be 716 VIP if you don't want any PPV.
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Oh my God there's so many now I swear.
But just be 716 on all platforms.
So people, where did we smoke over today?
What did you learn 'cause I liketo educate as well as I
(01:06:42):
entertain. Well, let me tell you what I
think you learned or you should have learned is that no matter
what level you do this business takes work, time and
persistence. You have to take it seriously.
We sit here, we listen to these news and articles about these
ladies. They make millions of dollars.
This, that, the third. But see, here's the thing, the
(01:07:05):
key is not that I made $1,000,000 in 2025.
Would I be making $1,000,000 in 2026202728?
It takes you evolving and understanding and how to move
into business. I find it funny that they always
talk shit when they say, well, if you do this, you're going to
end up doing this, you end up doing this, you're going to end
(01:07:26):
up doing this. But I hate to tell you this,
guess what porn is for a lot of these ladies and give these
ladies the grace of sexual discovery.
It's something y'all would neverunderstand because part of our
job is discover what we into sexually and export it for
(01:07:46):
money. There are a lot of things that
I've done for like a like first.Yeah, you know period shoot and
the reason why because it allow us to be that way, especially
these day and age now because ofcontent creation.
Y'all heard the stories. I was when them girls had to go
to Hollywood, they may not be inthe anal bin and found out that
(01:08:08):
they got two anal scenes. This area's allowed the people
to have more control, but the biggest problem is the
responsibility with that controlbecause one mistake can change
multiple people's lives. See understand if you actually
be in this business and for yourcivilians, they don't
understand. 1 positive test shuts down the whole industry.
(01:08:36):
Billions, not 1,000,000 billionsis lost because you have to
retest, you have to reshoot, youhave to reschedule.
People are lost. You know how many times people
was at the conventions and therewas a stoppage?
You didn't went all the way to New Jersey.
Spend all that goddamn money. You can't shoot that day.
And then the sad part is, you know, I found out and how the
(01:09:00):
fuck I found out because I wouldn't be in New Jersey and
someone actually tried to do that shit and got found out.
Yeah. No, I know.
Yes, Yeah, people will be takingtests.
Well, OK. So if you have time for one more
story, I don't know. If you go ahead, go.
Ahead. Go ahead.
OK, so when I first started out doing collabs and stuff, this is
(01:09:21):
back in October, I didn't know. So when you go get tested,
right, you get AQR code like that you that you scan like you
when you're test, when you're going to be shooting with
somebody, you take your QR code out and you present it to them.
So that way can they can scan itand they can verify that your
test is correct. So I didn't know that.
(01:09:42):
So the very first but one of theone of the first people that I
shot with faked his fucking testand I had no idea.
Thankfully everything was fine and I came back clean but it was
because he didn't want to pay for it I'm pretty sure.
Now it's the point now to keep it 1 honey.
See y'all love when we go on tangent, don't you?
Even with the health department I can go online and show you my
(01:10:03):
shit. See that's the other part.
It's like dog fuck that. If y'all got a laptop at the
shoe, fuck a QR code motherfucker, pull your shit up.
Pull it up. I will literally log in right in
front of you. Here you go.
There you go. That's it.
I didn't see. I didn't know any of that.
I was so naive. But see, the point being is once
(01:10:25):
again, as you can see, as you can see, it's a business that
you got to take serious because this is the one business where
wolves could be in sheep clothing.
Yeah, so. And they know how to, they know
how to sweet talk like they knowexactly what to say.
Yeah. That's why the one thing that
(01:10:45):
men and women must not see here coming to this business only for
and that is for Dick and pussy. Can you come in it to make money
and you sit. Let me make this clear up
caveat. Seriously want to make money?
You're going to move as such. Simple as that.
(01:11:07):
So oh about y'all learned what y'all learned what y'all need to
get. I can't wait to get her into the
pre and smoke room because yes Lord you see that wiggle wiggle
dribble jiggle. So with that being said, you
know we eat these things all dayevery day.
Life is a learning experience. What's the point being
experienced if you haven't learned anything?
Smoke this over. Say goodbye to him, Jess B.
(01:11:30):
Bye everyone, can't wait to be on it again.
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