July 4, 2025 • 61 mins
It's a July 4th Double Header and this one I interview Gail Mariya. She is a cam girl, fetish model who for the past 8 yrs wore a mask for her content and today she reveals her pretty face in The Smoker's lounge. We discuss her starting with sexy pics on Reddit and then moving to webcamming and solo content. We discuss why she wore the mask and what made her decide to take it off. We discuss her lack of confidence entering the business because of her size. She tells me how she wants to do more boy-girl content and collabs with ladies plus, we discuss the hairy fetish and more.
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And we are live and I, I love when people give me a smile when
we start the show. It's such a pretty smile.
How you doing today, gorgeous? I'm doing really well.
I'm really happy to be here. I was just listening to some of
your episodes earlier today and I just I enjoyed the vibe and
this it, you know, I, I have my bong with me.
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So in case I want to smoke this,I love weed, but I've never
recorded a podcast episode whilesmoking.
So I'm just like, I'm excited for whatever this is.
For me light up and hit for me God Dang it I ain't got no weed
and the way my week been going Ican't wait till I finally get
some because it's been a rough week for me but better with a
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pretty smile you feel me? I warn you, So I can't, even
though I smoke, even though I smoke a bunch of weed, you know,
I smoke a bunch of weed. I do tend to cough a lot.
So just a heads up, don't worry about me.
Blinks. You cut out for a second so I I
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missed what you said. Well, I said I normally smoke
blinks but don't get twisted. I love me a good bone.
You know, pretty. I actually had one, didn't lost
it, you know, And of course I mean venom smokers.
So back in my younger days, I used to make bones out of
anything. Like do you mean like
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glassblowing or turning like apples or Tupperware or
something into? Them like for example I'll take
a 2 liter coke after I drunk it and turn it into a water bone.
Cool. You know, but but the difference
is I had no place to pack the weeds.
So I do is I made the holes where I put the blood in it, you
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know, hold towards the top wherethe mouthpiece is for the the
air release. I did smoke out of a Tupperware
somebody once turned into a bong.
So that's probably the closest experience I have with that.
But I'm so into like art and making and I guess sort of like
sort of engineering. So I do like the idea of
learning how to do more of thosethings myself as well.
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So thank you for the inspiration.
Oh, no doubt. No doubt, Because if people
remember one of my favorite shows, one of my favorite movies
was it Guy with Dave Chappelle in it.
But he will talk about the different smokers.
They talk about the inventive smoker.
I was an inventive smoker. Oh, inventive smoker.
I am very much an inventive smoker.
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So many ideas come to me. Yeah, God, I remember even like
when I used to come back for Christmas and we all hooked up
in my boy house. He literally detached the vacuum
cleaner and we and we used to throw guns with the with the
two. Wait with you smoked through a
vacuum? Yeah, you know, they got the the
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the extra pieces for the vacuum,right.
And he had like a the the oxygenmask.
So he put oxygen mask and we hadthe blunt to where you could
blow the gun and. Hopefully it wasn't too dusty.
Oh no, Oh no, no, no, he made sure to clean that motherfucker.
We can't even have that little cat here on my damn face to
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smoke a blunt. So what were the craziest way
that you smoke weed? I once smoked a cross joint.
I don't know if it's crazy but that's one thing.
And. That's a good ass rolling a
cross. I definitely, I definitely did
not roll it. I'm not great at rolling and
then what? Fuck.
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OK. One time my friends and I went
to the ocean and we used a magnifying glass as basically a
lighter, and we definitely had lighters.
We were like a little group of stoners.
But we just heard, I think my friend had heard that Snoop Dogg
did it. So we wanted to try and it
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worked. Oh no, it, it does it.
I mean, can we use the the matter of fact that I completely
used to burn ants with that shit.
I never did, you know what I'm saying, but.
Better to smoke weed. Yeah, man, no, I'm gonna tell
you, once I was in jail, these motherfuckers rolled a fucking
joint in jail. Now, I wasn't a part of the
smoke. They licked the bitch from the
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the wall, the wall plug. I don't know how the fuck they
did this shit. I was like, and still don't know
how the hell they got the weed in there and rolled the joint.
I think they used Bible paper. That is so many different kinds
of inventive and sneaky. Yeah, people, we people just
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love to get high. Like they'll figure it out.
Oh, for sure, how this piece notthat the worst thing is you have
weed and nothing to smoke in or I'm gonna figure out a way what
way to God that well, but fuck with you heard.
So now speaking about being artist, you know, artist and
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everything for you. Let's talk about the adult
stuff, shall we? Real quick, before I have the
before I talk to y'all for you, what do you love about being in
the adult sex work world? Oh, I love a lot about it and I
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want to be honest that I'm relatively a new beginner.
Like, I've been naked on the Internet for a decade at the
point this episode is going to come out.
But in terms of like the industry aspect of it, you know,
I'm relatively new, but I still with being naked online for a
decade, there's a lot to say. So one thing I love is that
like, I love the pleasure of it.You know, I wouldn't have gotten
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into this if I didn't love masturbating.
I do, I'm good at it. I've had a lot of time to enjoy
that. My vibrator happens to be like 3
feet from where we are right now.
So that's one really fun thing. And it's fun to to know that
other people enjoy seeing that as well.
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And I'm an exhibitionist, you know, only to people who want to
see, but so this is pretty perfect for that.
I also love being a different kind of person making this
content. So I have a pretty unique body
type. So I am fat or BBW, whatever
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they call it, with small boobs, which is a pretty rare
combination. And I used to be so
self-conscious about it and I'm not anymore but you.
Got a fat booty though. I got a giant ass.
No, because we always talked about, I always talked about
this before. It's very rare you have a BBW
with both tits and ass, even gonna have big tits and have a
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fat ass. Very rare that they both have
that, but you know, have both and rare if they don't have
neither. So even rarer.
And it was like, whenever I lookthrough the pictures, you see my
oh, she got a nice ass and some nice legs, man.
You know, I'm actually really surprised to hear that it's rare
to have both cause at least justmy experience growing up, I for
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most of my life I've been fat. There was a while when I was
quite thin, I regained it. Lots to say there that I'll
probably say for a different situation, but I, I remember
like it's so it was so rare to see people who look like me that
you kind of clock it. And so I, I remember these
little instances of other times when I met other fat women who
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also had small boobs or just like smaller.
And so at least maybe it's my insecurity or something, but I
feel like my perception is that usually a like a fat woman or
plus size woman would have big boobs and a big butt, Although I
only, I like I did. I literally did not know that I
had a big ass or that it was like distracting or exciting to
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people until I mean, literally till I started posting online.
And I think part of it is that it's on the back.
And so you just don't see peoplechecking it out.
Though now I've now I tend to notice it a lot more like once
you know, or you'll notice reflections or people just
treating you differently. But like, especially by like
whether, you know, if my dress is quite tight, people interact
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differently in some contexts andin many contexts, I don't mind
them interacting differently. But I, I honestly, I didn't
realize. And so yeah, I happen to, and
you know, the reason I'm, I, I didn't get yet to the fact of
having a big ass is that the unusual part is the combination
of big but small boobs. The big ass part I think is more
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common. And it's it's definitely
something that I get, you know, in terms of random comments,
it's and, you know, like messages on dating apps,
messages on my only fans. Sometimes attraction in the real
world or the, you know, the regular world.
My ass definitely gets a lot like a disproportionate amount
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of attention. But one of the really fun things
about what I've been enjoying about this this work, this art,
this industry is that I also do get a lot of attention on my
small boobs. And what's interesting is I
always thought I would have to make them bigger, look bigger,
hide the shape of them because they're also a little bit
pointier than, or at least some of the time they do kind of
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change depending on if I'm turned on or the weather and
stuff. But they're, they're, they're a
little bit pointier. And so I just never really saw
that as something that people would enjoy.
Like I just the message wasn't out there.
And I found that once like a bigpart of once I started feeling
less self-conscious, which a huge part of that came from
posting my nudes online on Reddit about a decade, a decade
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ago. And once I realized kind of
opened that floodgate of, oh, mybody is not hideous.
My body for many people, not everybody, but for many people
is enjoyable. And then in at least some
contexts, I'll dress tighter. I'll dress you know where like,
and I hate, I hate bras. I so much save how much I hate
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bras. So whenever possible, I don't
wear bras. And either way, like when my
boobs, their true shape and sizeis more visible, I actually get
a lot of positive, more positiveresponse.
And so that's just been a big part of all of this, whether
just in my regular life when appropriate, or in my actual
sexy content. The more raw and authentic the I
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do, the better, even if it meansunflattering angles.
Or, you know, maybe my, I don't,who knows, Like maybe my face
looks weird when I'm in pleasure.
Who even knows? But the truth is, sex and
sexiness, it doesn't have to look a specific way.
So that's been so joyful. And then another thing I'll say
is I love the interactions with some of my fans.
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I love that audience engagement.I honestly don't think I would
have been doing this for a decade at this point if it
weren't for the lovely people, the people who are already into
people who look like me, the people who just saw me and are
like, oh, interesting. Like I've had people tell me
that I've opened them up to a being attracted to a wider range
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of appearances. I've had people tell me that
they fuck their wife every single time they see that I have
a new picture come out. Or that using my pictures and or
videos, especially including theones where I am more explicitly
talking about body image stuff. A lot of it is just fun.
A lot of it is just sexy, you know, getting off that kind of
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stuff. But sometimes I have captions or
aspects of it that address body image more directly, and so I've
had people say that they feel less self-conscious about
themselves or they my pictures or videos have facilitated them
having their girlfriend feel more attractive or themselves.
And all that stuff is just dreamy.
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So we didn't went team damn nearover 10 minutes.
So hi smokers, time to smoke this over.
Welcome to the smokers lounge. You know I am Kavanaugh the
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dark.com. Now ladies and gentlemen this is
a special episode because this lady does not show a face until
this moment you feel me? And I don't know why the fuck
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she wore the mask 'cause she fine as shit, got a nice curvy
body fat ass, sexy thick ass legs, and despite the fact that
tits are small, they are nice. And I am looking forward to
talking to this lady. I've been looking forward to
talking to you ever since I first contacted her.
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So I'm going to shut up and makethis gorgeous, sexy tall drink
of deliciousness. Introduce yourself.
Tell me who you are, baby. My name is Gal Maria Rivers.
I'm an artist and adult content creator and as was mentioned I
have an enormous ass and small boobs, a hairy body and I am a
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BBW or fat, whatever kind of word.
And I, I think I am first and foremost an artist, second a
masturbator. And I think that is sufficient
bio to for this moment to get usstarted with some conversations.
Basically she's a solo content creator people, so this is going
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to be a funny interview. Mostly slash so far.
I did start my first beginnings of a collaboration recently.
So and I I have some things in mind, including yeah, I have
some ideas that really directly to the face reveal, which means
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they might be who knows, you know, we're coming from the
past. So future me, maybe I will have
released these sexy collaborations that may have,
you know, genitals right in thisarea of my face in this July.
4th, you've been you've been there for 10 years, so your fans
is hungry to see that. I'm pretty sure because not
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because, not because that would be the biggest conversation I
always have with ladies is staying power and not doing
everything in the first year, moderation and stuff.
And like I said it, you're helping those things to sell
more because you have never donethese things and it's been 10
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years. Your fans been rocking you with
10 years, so now they get to seeyou in a different light.
Yeah, the face aspect of it or the collaboration I've had in
the past, I've put out a few. I think I can think of two
instances where somebody else's hands were in the image.
Like I have one video of me, my hands handcuffed with hot pink
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handcuffs and sucking on a dildothat's attached to the wall and
then hands coming in and spanking me.
And then another with this beautiful picture I adore of
somebody with their hands down my a really cute top.
It's just a really beautiful andalso hot picture, I think, But
that's, that's it so far. And so I'm I've really been
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excited to start to come out from outside of just my room or
just wherever I happen to be recording.
And so already right now, if people go to so I think the only
spot at this moment, Oh well, actually, by the time this comes
out, they'll be a lot more. But just telling you, on my Fat
Life, there's already a couple of pictures, I believe of like
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spanking and or flogging, stuff like that with a really sexy
collaborator, another woman who interestingly has a very
different body type from me, like in just many, many
different ways. And so I think together we look
really cool. And yeah, we recorded some
videos and pictures. And so a lot more of that will
be coming out. But honestly, I just know so
many sexy people. And I think a lot of them, you
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know, they've been watching me on this journey and they've been
excited to, you know, getting some of my content.
And so every once in a while, like if I'm flirting with
somebody and if I don't know that they record or I don't know
that they record and would put it out online.
And, you know, it's kind of I'llbe like, let me just fantasize a
little bit. And by the way, my fantasy
includes a video camera recorded, you know, pointed at
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us. And then after the recording, we
decide where, you know, where itgoes.
So I think it's really importantoutside of the professional
situation, in the more amateur situation, to not decide what
you're going to release before you record it.
Like I can make something, nevershow it to anybody, make
something and just share it. Just the people who are in the
room or just our trusted ones. Or we can post it online or sell
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it and stuff. And so that's one thing I'm
really excited about and I try to let people know with, hey,
you want to record with me? Well, don't be limited in what
we record or do by what you feelcomfy just being blasted onto
the Internet because I can blur your face.
I can, you know, release only like 90 seconds, but we were
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having an amazing time for an hour, you know, all kinds of
things like just options. So shoot.
So now let's go back into Time Machine 10 years ago.
What got you into this business?I first started posting online
because at the time I hated how I looked.
And what's interesting is I looked different.
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I looked more conventionally attractive at the time.
So in 2015, it was a few years after I had lost a ton of weight
and so I was very thin, didn't realize how thin I was and just
so many different aspects of my world and the world collided to
make me feel so self-conscious. So I was in some aspects getting
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positive affirmation from the outside and some of the help and
some of the hurt in really complex ways.
And I found myself lurking on a subreddit called Normal Nudes.
And I that subreddit changed my life.
Like every few years I will reach out to the person who runs
that and I would just say thank you.
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And I think it's time for me to do that.
It has been a few years, I thinksince I've reached out.
So I just I ended up posting nudes online after lurking for
either a few weeks or months, I just started noticing, Oh,
people will post these really sexy people, especially sexy
like it's especially women will post online.
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And in general, they ask that people will share in their about
their body image. So it's not just a place for
pictures, but it's also about discussing body image
experiences and also really importantly important in many
ways. I think that particular place
was the pictures are not supposed to be sexual.
So it's not about no sexy angles.
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No, you know, making your judging yourself up when men
post, they have to be flaccid, just all kinds of different
aspects. And so it's really just about
having a gallery and sharing experiences about what normal
bodies look like. And so I already started feeling
better by seeing the nudes of other women posting online.
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And then when I started thinking, well, maybe there's
something in this for me. Maybe I also will.
It will help me to get out of myown head and so.
I at the time I, I remember moving.
I, I haven't, I haven't moved like my arm hair or anything
like so it's not like I removed every little bit of body hair,
but I remember like shaving my legs, probably trimming my
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pussy. Like you as a rookie.
I had no idea. Now you don't need to shave shit
because it's a a whole genre forthat.
Yeah, turns out I'm a whole niche.
So. Yeah.
And, and and that's, I mean, that's been such an interesting
part of the process too, is finding like so many of the
things that I used to be so insecure about are things that
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are money makers, are things that some people are attracted
to. Or even if they weren't, it's at
best like even if somebody is neutral, like like if somebody
is negative about my appearance and my body hair, my size,
whatever, like that's fine. Just go over there, like go find
who you want. And so people who are either
neutral about aspects of me or of course positive, that's
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really what I, what I'm here for.
And so like posting those pictures, I will tell, I
generally tell people posting those maybe 7 pictures or so
that I posted in 2015 on that huge day of my life, which
turned out to be a huge day of my life.
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It's completely got me out of myassumptions of how other people
would see me. And that particular subreddit is
a place where you're not supposed, like I said, like no,
no sexual things. But very quickly, within
probably a few weeks or something, I found the gone wild
parts of Reddit and I've just been going wild since.
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And so, and it's so interesting too, because so there's gone
wild itself and the people who post and gone wild, it's mostly
people who look very much like models and you know, kind of
more that typical look. But once I found gone wild,
curvy, gone wild Harry, all these different kinds of
subreddits that either specifically like my specific
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combination of looks or they're just open to or they're just
like, hey, we want to see sexy women or we want to see sexy
people and broadly define sexy, very broadly defined because
that's how sexiness works. I have just been having so much
fun and this is by far the longest thing I've ever done.
I haven't always been very consistent.
Like this past for about a year and a half now, I've been
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monetizing on only fans and I'vehad to be very consistent
because I'm promising subscribers a certain amount of
things. I use spreadsheets and file
management and all of these things.
But you know throughout this decade that I've just been naked
online. There have been times when I
have literally hadn't posted something in months and I always
knew I was coming back because Ididn't see this leaving.
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I just was, I'm just very busy person.
I also only like 7:00-ish years into posting online, I realized
I was, I have ADHD and that was like about late, like 28 years
after starting to be on this planet.
So it's, you know, like ADHD certainly effects things like
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how I interact with people, but or like how I post both
positively and negatively, all kinds of things.
But, and so I get these messageslike I wouldn't post for a few
months every once in a while or a few weeks and people would
say, oh, I'm so glad you're back.
I've been waiting for you in my head.
I'm like, where'd I go? I'm just, I just don't post that
often sometimes. But then there are times like
2018, which is about three yearsafter I started posting in 2018,
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I gave myself a project. Anybody who knows me, whether
you know, with the adult contentor just my regular life knows I
love to give myself projects. It's a there's, it's A to my
detriment and harm. And so every single day in 2018,
I posted either a picture or a video, usually nude, but not
always. And along with it, there would
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be a short caption, something about my body image or well, my
body experience, either image orfunctional.
And that particular year, I mean, a lot of it was also just
sexy and raunchy. But I think that particular year
of posting was particularly artistic and focus, focus on
body liberation and understanding my experience.
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So it really has varied. Like if if people are hearing
this and seeing me and they're like, I don't care at all about
this body liberation or art stuff, but I want to see her
come perfect. And as of right now, you can see
my face as I come since we are now magically transported to my
post face reveal time. But if you know, if people are
interested in those social aspects that that justice
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component, the changing the situation that made me feel that
I was hideous and that I was supposed to wear thicker bras to
change how my body shape looked or wear baggy clothes or just
all kinds of different aspects that, you know, even if all you
care about is like me or people,whatever people being out there
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and feeling confident and feeling sexy putting their
showing themselves, then we're all of this is connected to
that. And so I, I want to be out there
showing people, especially people who have either look like
me or have something in common with my experience.
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You can be confident and it doesn't mean you have to be out
there sharing yourself like this.
I like this, but not everybody does.
But I wanted to show that it's an option.
And the nice thing is that the way I do that, one way that I do
that is by making a lot of sexy content for a different category
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of people. And there's overlap.
But the people who pay attentionto my project and my art and my
content, they tend to fall into,well, I'll just say the vast
majority of them are there because we're trying to get off,
you know, But there's also the people who are there because of
the, the justice and the, the social justice and the
confidence and the liberation freedom aspect of this.
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And then I love of course the overlap as well.
Yeah, because, because like I said, we said earlier that
there's girls that make money off of being inherited on shave.
I interviewed many of them and stuff of that nature.
And also my smokers know BBWS iswhere I made my money people.
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So I can tell you BBWS make money whether they got big tits
or not. So for you, how do they feel
that guys? Because a lot of times,
especially BBWS, they're not very confident in their looks
and their bodies, you know, period.
Even if they pretend to be how it feels to know that in this
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industry you are lusted for because he win the BBW because
you're a big girl, you know whatI'm saying?
And it's a big genre and a big fan base that love BBW.
I love being lusted over, so I love that.
I love also the surprise, like the sort of surprising aspect of
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it. Yeah.
I mean, it's increasingly not that surprising because we see
it, you know, it's yes, there's limits to like I, the time I
described about my body image atthe time I was very thin, so
it's not exactly relevant to that.
But before that, I was fat, I was a BBW and I had really bad
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body image and really until, youknow, basically until 2015.
And so I can tell you it is veryeasy to go through life and miss
that message, even though I guarantee that, you know, at
those times in my life, there are also people lusting over me.
And I saw some of it and I didn't see all of it.
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So yeah, it's less surprising now.
And like, you know, 2025 BBW, even just knowing it's a word,
knowing it's a, it's a term thatpeople search that already means
a lot in a way. And but all that, you know, all
that being said, as much as I can know rationally, I know from
experience all of that. I know that there is this
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interest in BBWS or other aspects of how I look.
But there's still something about the fact that it has only
been a decade since I got that message.
And it's takes a lot to unwind all the, you know, the, all the
other stuff. And so, you know, and I, I love
that you said that BBW is such awide category.
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And I think that's also really important because we're not a
monolith. Like somebody can be into like
somebody being into BBWS, yes. You know, if somebody is on
average into, you know, tends tobe into BBWS, then more likely
than not they're, they'll like it to be into me.
But on the other hand, it reallydepends because some people like
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women or whichever, you know, subcategory like specifically
BBWS, they put them to be hair, you know, have very little hair
or maybe they love big boobs or they love somebody even hairier
than I am or shorter or taller, whatever it is.
And so it's like it's a useful category, but at the same time
where people and so you know, that's why it's been really cool
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to engage both on different combinations like the subreddit,
big girl, small tits, they love me, I love them.
And if that's an interesting combination or they'll be, you
know, categories on Only fans orlike, actually I don't Only fans
isn't exactly have categories, but basically you know, where we
have hashtags and stuff, hairy BBW or BBW artsy or all kinds of
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different things. BBW, interracial, BBW anal, so
forth and so forth. Yeah.
Exactly. Yeah.
So it's just it, it's nice. It's like it's I, you know, it's
like I, I don't want to be fetishized or I don't know if
that's exactly the word, but it's like, I don't want to be
treated only as a, just like a category or a stereotype.
But then it's also the label is helpful because it helps people
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who find, you know, find that and then, you know, beautiful's
right in, you know, big beautiful woman.
Beautiful's right there, so. I'll take that a comment.
Beautiful. She got that first B down pack.
So now what made you decide to because the whole time she's
doing pictures and solo content for the most part.
So we're going to get to the boygirls stuff in a second.
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So for your solos, how often do you record to keep up the the to
keep up with updates? And two, how do you not?
How can I tell? Be inventive with your solos
because a lot of time girls it looks like the same fucking solo
different day or different lingerie, you know?
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OK so how I am inventive and howoften I record.
How often I record totally varies.
I think it generally has to do with if I get horny and or an
idea for a certain video. I don't find myself recording a
whole lot specifically to keep up with my schedule.
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Mostly because I have so much content recorded that I can
generally, like if I need something, I go into, you know,
my files. The file management is a
challenging aspect. So there have been times when it
is literally easier for me to just record a quick video and
know that I'll keep my, my eyes out of it rather than have to go
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back through my videos. What I've never released what,
you know, scrub through, check for my eyes.
But yeah, it's. So it's mostly.
It's mostly when. I just, I know that's kind of,
excuse me, challenging to hide your face.
Yeah. Especially the aims that y'all
have to get 4. You know it's one thing she's
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doing like cowgirl or something but were you talking about doggy
or Or even if you wanted to likeABJ?
And trust me, it's not cute whenyou blur the face and the Dick
just disappeared. Yeah, at that point, if you're
blur, I mean, you know, people can do that for sure.
Like whatever, whatever works, it's there's still some hotness
to it. But, and I've thought about that
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like like releasing videos of medoing BJ's or oral sex on on
anybody and then my eyes have tobe blurred.
It's like there's really very limited.
There, but you wear a mask so you know what I'm saying?
Well every now he wore a mask. There's options so.
So that's a huge thing that I dois that's a really common
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strategy I use is wearing masks.So I have quite a few.
I have. I'm a big, I'm a big fan of
utility. Because you have girls wear the
same goddamn mask in every video.
I'd be hating next year. I'd be like dance with you
though. Yeah, yeah, I'm looking over my
utility cart and one of the little subsections on it is
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specifically masks and other things that I use to hide my my
eyes. And each has pros and cons.
So I mostly do use just the samefew masks or strategies to keep
my face out. So I would say the masks aren't
the most interesting part and I cannot wait until I don't need
the masks or at least only maybesome of my collaborators.
If they're like less experiencedor have more privacy needs, I'll
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save them. You know, I'll use my
experience, but I just cannot wait to stop having to type my
eyes and to to answer about the creativity aspect of it and
keeping it fresh. It turns out I am a deeply
creative person and I had absolutely no idea how artistic
I am until I started being nakedonline.
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And so people will often ask me,oh, how did you get into art?
Because art comes up all the time in my life, you know, even
if people don't know about my adult content art.
And in the cases where it would be inappropriate to say
something like it's because I started masturbating online and
noticing I used interesting angles or I got really into
photography by, you know, photographing my boobs or
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whatever, you know, I, I find I have answers that that can leave
all of this stuff out. So, but the, the honest answer
is this that I really did start noticing how many creative
decisions I was making. And so I really have fun with
it. And I think another thing that
really helps is I don't stick toflattering angles.
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You know, I'm mindful of, you know, what things tend to look a
little sexier or, you know, things like, you know, when I'm
taking a picture where it's likefrom a low angle and it's up and
it's looking at my butt. And you know, I, I totally
acknowledge that I am using degrees of flattering there.
Like, yes, my butt looks bigger and more shapely and all of that
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stuff. But so I of course I do stuff
like that and that's part of creative decisions as well.
But I don't worry about things like my double chin.
Well, actually, I mean, I won't say I won't, don't worry about
it. Like having grown up with, you
know, in this culture, like I, I, I think about it.
But interestingly, in the case of nude or sexy content, it's
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like it just doesn't feel as much of a problem.
Like I know somebody is only looking at it if they're into
me. If they're a hater and they're
looking at whatever that's like this its own thing I can speak
to, but in general, people looking at this are into me and
I know when I'm into somebody, their specific body
imperfections don't bother me. If, if anything, it can actually
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be like extra exciting because it's.
Like this day and age, they wantreal women.
Yeah, that's why the BB WS got over even because people don't
realize how long I came into business in 2010.
BBW was bumping in 2008 because especially the black girls that
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the white girls didn't get hot until like 2-3 years later
because you had black tails which featured BBWS.
You had Squad magazine that featured BBWS in and there that
was smaller just had huge tits, you know, period.
And then you start seeing more sites and porn companies book
BBWS, you know, so they, they always wanted a real body
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because they got tired of the size 0, no tattoo, blonde with
blue eyes. She's skinny, you know what I'm
saying? So because porn started to show
that men like different types and figures and shapes of women,
and that's why that wasn't really represented back in the
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day. Yeah.
And I just, I find that because I'm not trying to make it look
like I am those like I can record from all kinds of
interesting angles. I can let my pleasure face show.
I can do really interesting things.
Like one kind of video or picture I really enjoy is to
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actually put my phone in a waterproof case, put it directly
on the ground, and then do whatever the fuck I want above
it and often whatever doing. Whatever I want.
That I was going to say, yeah, so.
Because you said waterproof. I said, oh see, God Dang, you
want to make you want to come out retirement with your ass,
but go ahead. It's a combination of things.
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So yes, the waterproof is reallyonly needed because of the
squirting, but the but the angle, it's like it's a unique
way. You rarely see somebody like
that. And and obviously that that
upward angle, like it's like especially if you like, if I
spread my legs, like it's a verynice upshot of my pussy and my
ass. So that's obviously a very
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exciting thing. But also you, you know, eat
within porn like you often see pussies and asses.
Yeah. And so it's, it's not just that,
it's also that, wow, this is first of all, you just, it's
like seeing somebody in a view you don't usually see, but also
it's the view of if somebody were lying under me while I
masturbate a while I squirt or if they were eating me out or
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whatever. It's like it opens you up to so
many different kinds of creativity and imagination that
you just don't get if you're mostly trying to do all your
angles from above this way kind of trying to, you know, it's I
actually had a phase in my life where I was like, this was a
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long time ago. I was so self-conscious and you
know, you're taught take pictures from above.
So there's like about a year or two of photos from my life where
I'm like smiling like this and everyone until one of them.
And it's it's kind of sad when Inotice it because it's like
this. I just got in the habit.
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I probably didn't really think about it that much that year.
It was just like, this is the way I minimize myself.
And it's like, first of all, people only seeing somebody from
one specific angle. That's not ideal, that's not
interesting, that's not artistic.
That's not like if you were withsomebody in bed, you would see
them from a lot of angles. And I think one of the really
fun aspects of this is that, youknow, some of this recreates
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like what it would be like if they were in the room with me,
in bed with me. And it wouldn't be, we would
only be face to face, you know, or them like looking down on me.
It's like, and I wouldn't be perfectly poised or, you know,
look perfect. I'd be sweaty and out of breath
and from all kinds of angles. And so that authentic raw vibe.
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I just love it. And I'm really, really am
excited to record with other people.
And by the way, I, you know, I will be very happy to record
with men. I imagine a lot of my recordings
will be, but I'm also pansexual or bisexual, either where it is
fine for me. And so I I.
Already knew that I already got some I would I manifest would
love to see how we. Yeah, I, I'm really excited to
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record, you know, with people ofany gender and any body type,
different ages, different interests.
So you shoot with a transgender?So sorry, ask the question
again. Would you shoot with a
transgender? Oh, absolutely.
Yeah, yes, yeah, I've, I've had,yeah, I've had many crushes on
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people who are transgender. I have had at least one very
sexy, well, I mean, not at least, but I'll just say one
sexy experience with a, with a woman who's transgender.
And, you know, I'm, for me, it'sjust I'm, I'm attracted to a
wide range of people and appearances.
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And for me, the the vibes, the connection, the interesting
exchanges are like this, you know, interesting discussions.
That's how my attraction tends to build.
And so, you know, and that, and that's relevant both for dating,
you know, my regular life as well as who I want to record
(41:15):
with. And so, yeah, just it, it's I've
been trying not to like objectify people in my life, but
as I do think about what recordings I want to make this
next year, I'm kind of like justsort of hitting on assorted
friends or, you know, friends with benefits, that kind of
thing. In in some cases, it's like we
already know we have like a flirty vibe, but now I'm hitting
(41:36):
on them with the like. What do you think about
recording it? God, we should live closer.
I would love to record with her.She's actually be a whole lot of
fun. Well, you know, there's always
the future. And now I'm also hearing about
like the another another podcastI just recorded on recently was
telling me about all these different conventions.
(41:57):
And so I'm really excited about that.
I've been loving doing this podcast tour and like getting
out from behind my keyboard. And this already is so
connecting like face to face, but I can't wait to be out more
face to face in the like the real world.
Because he you showing your faceis going to open you up to a
whole new world and depend upon who you shooting with,
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especially as you elevate your shooting.
And what I mean by that some people understand you go from
shooting your homeboys, your fuck buddies to your shooting
will establish talent and it will elevate you.
And because one, they don't wantto hide nobody wear a mask
because a lot of they they companies ain't built off of
that. You know as well.
(42:42):
Now don't get twisted to contenttrade fucking day.
But they were wanting to see theface and why wouldn't you show
your face, you purity, you know,Yeah, why you failed me.
But yeah, yeah. And I'm happy to talk about.
Those decisions like why I didn't show with the, you know,
didn't show my face. Now here I am.
And But yeah, As for that, like I do want to say you're totally
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right that it's going to open meup to so many more
opportunities. And you're right there like I,
there's, of course there's some,I would assume the vast majority
of people wouldn't like the recording studios or these
things that they wouldn't recordwith somebody who's not showing
their face for so many reasons. But also it's this limitation
has so completely separated me from like in person networking.
(43:29):
So I can't wait to go to things like AVN or other conventions.
I have started attending more like sex positive events, sex
party, stuff like that. In my real life I've I've
started connecting more including also.
With like my non. Non monogamous community around
here 'cause that's what I am andbut there is.
(43:52):
Always the. Separation of if for.
Example. Like if I were to tweet at a
certain person, well, what if I'm using the same kind of
hashtags under my, you know, my real name that shows my face as
this? Or.
If I go to a some sort of meet up or all kinds of different
(44:15):
things. And so, you know, I'm still
planning to work under a pseudonym.
I like that separation of name and pseudonym.
I think that totally makes sense.
Very few. Porn stars use their real name,
Yeah. Government or one one word name
yeah, but yeah the. But just that aspect of not
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having to hide my face and to say this is part of what I do
and I'm OK with my face being connected on the Internet
forever with this kind of thing.And not everybody wants that.
And that's fine. And I wasn't really sure I it
has been so many starts and stops this past decade in terms
of figuring out. I almost revealed my face in
(44:56):
2020, actually. So, you know, it's been like
it's been back and forth and, but at this point, and I think
the 10th anniversary of making my still in metamorphosis a
Reddit account is, it's such an exciting milestone because not
only is 10 years a pretty number, but it is really saying
this is not just a passing thing.
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This is something that I'm actually really dedicated to.
And, and this is, I think, the most consistent thing I've ever,
ever, ever done. Well shoot well now there's a
lot of girls that they do solos because it seems like that's the
entryway for a lot of females. My theory is women usually go
(45:43):
with the easiest route to the money because a lot of girls
just solo because. You rescue 100 some of y'all
mother. Fuckers are still ashamed of
yourself come into this game andyou feel that someone find out.
I could just say when I'm just doing something, I just normally
doing my own sex life, being my home, you know?
(46:03):
Period. So for you, what made you decide
to switch to do collab collaborations?
Now you feel what I'm saying 'cause I'm pretty sure you do.
What? Webcam customs, You know what
I'm saying? And and solo content.
So what made you decide that? Now I want to switch to collabs
with men, women, transgender andso forth.
(46:26):
Let's see, that's a great question.
I think part of it is that I really have enjoyed getting to
know other people who are into like who are sex positive or
into making content, making especially artsy, sexy content,
but not only also purely raunchy.
So I think part of it is the excitement, part of it is the
freedom, because with being ableto show my face and being comfy
(46:51):
getting out there and networking, it just opens up
more opportunities. But also like, I like hooking
up, why not record it? And also I think one other thing
that makes me kind of excited about this is I feel like I have
in some ways a unique relationship with sex and I
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think it's going to manifest in interesting videos.
And so to be a little more specific, one of the.
Things that bugs me. About most the porn I see is
that it is so repetitive and it's like PIV.
It's like we just go through these motions and then the main
thing is penis and vagina sex. And that's like the what, what
(47:37):
it is. And I am excited to record some
of that content as well. But an interesting thing about
my sex life is when I in about 2018 ish, maybe 2019, I actually
decided to stop having PIV. And so I, I am planning to have
(48:01):
it again probably this year, almost certainly recorded.
But I actually just found that when I took PIV off the table,
the sex I started having was so much more creative and
enjoyable. And also it was a great way to
filter out people who really were just in it for the in, out,
(48:23):
in, out, you know, that's it. And it's like, fine, if that's
what somebody wants, no problem.I'm not the person for them.
And so it's been interesting because it's been at this point
years where the sex that I've had is oral sex, it's fingering,
it's mutual masturbation. It's, you know, various aspects
of, I mean, like I think recording myself having solo sex
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for years is also like a big aspect of my sex life as well.
And you know, there's, there's so many more aspects of sensual
and sexual play. And so when I think about it,
the different kinds of people that I might make videos with,
well, it's not going to be a series of videos where in every
single video we start off by flirting, then we start making
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out, then we rapidly remove our clothes, oral sex, then PIV,
then maybe anal, you know, and like, and then fade to black or
whatever. Like some videos can be that,
but it's like there's so many more.
It's just so much more interesting if you're creative
and you just go with what actually feels good.
And so I feel like that is also something I'm really excited
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about. Like sometimes if I tell
somebody, hey, would you want tomake this kind of video with me?
Like there's somebody I was thinking about making a mutual
masturbation video with. And I am also very open to
making other kinds of videos with them.
But at the moment, that's how I thought about it.
Like, what kind of interesting video would this be if at least
in that video I was thinking about, we never even touched
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each other. Two people sitting nearby
lusting after each other and touching themselves.
Like, you just don't really see that many videos.
And so by just thinking about like, what might be interesting
having more and more people or like having more and more people
to record these different kinds of things with, it's just it
just makes sense to me. Yeah.
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Because. I think the biggest mistake
girls make. I keep saying this porn was.
Great. When we did storytelling, we had
some storytelling and it wasn't just typical like what you just
said right there is not typical and it's a story behind it.
Now it's like you said they justfucking 6 minute video doggy
(50:34):
style. She giving head this that third,
and I keep telling people that'snot sustainable business plan
for you to make money with because people don't get bored
with them type videos after a while, you know, period, just
like I tell females, I don't give a damn how great of a solo
artist you is. If you ain't invented with your
solo, they're going to get boredwith your solos, you know,
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period, because it's because fans become invest invest in you
emotionally and they want to seea maturation.
They want to see an evolution ofyou, you know, period.
Now you bout the grand a whole bunch of other fans, because now
they've seen you with a mask anddoing solo.
Now they see you without the mask and now you're working with
this and this. It's going to make the fans
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spend more money. You're going to make the fans
follow you even harder, you know, and everything.
So I'm like, shit, that that that's creative as fuck.
I hang in the phone with just like I used to love this shit
where the girls do the Jack the doodle.
She's sitting behind him, hugging him and she jugging him
all he just. Yeah, I.
I want to do a video like that. I'm sorry that shit, you know,
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faithful. Another thing that I have.
Seen not nearly enough content of that.
I think there's a demand for is grinding content like grinding
dry humping. Except for people like me.
I mean it has a whole site for that.
Shots out to heck Tech and dry bone.
Yeah that that's the whole thing.
It's it's she grinds on him and then gives him head after.
(52:02):
But he didn't come out to the head part.
She up there giving him a lap dance, grinding on him in his
jeans. Yeah, yeah.
And for me. Like for me there is like
grinding and I don't dry humpingis so inaccurate for it because
it gets me so wet and soaking that it becomes like just such a
wet situation. That is one of the things that
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physically feels best to me. And so and I know that's a lot
of people. Like of course, why wouldn't it?
It's a sexy person you are rubbing your genitals on.
I am more stimulated by outer course, which is why it was
like, you know, pretty easy for me to just to say that could be
a hot way to start a. Scene where she's driving up and
then and then eventually it turns into sex that'll be hot
(52:46):
and push me by the time I pull out the pants, their pussy
dripping wet. Yeah, and I would.
Say, just like a slight rewording of how I would say
that is to me it seems like sex the whole time.
You know, I, I, I understand like there's some sort of
differentiation like it does feel like it's escalating more,
especially when stuff is really soaked.
But in my experience, like, you know, especially if like the
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material's not all that thick orlike how soaked that I will make
the other person, it feels very good and very much like sex when
your genitals are pushing, even if there's not like an in, out,
in, out. Yeah.
And I've seen a little bit like when I'm getting off when I do
or when I'm getting off not on video.
When I'm on video, I'm. I don't think I've almost never
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actually been watching porn at the same time, mostly just
because like the technology and all that, all those things.
But if I'm just, you know, getting getting off, I will.
One of the things I search sometimes is grinding content
and there's so little and so like I just I want.
To add more sexiness. I want to add more of the kind
of sexiness that I like, and there's so many reasons that I
(53:53):
want to do this, and one of themis I think it's a form of harm
reduction. Like people love to have sex,
people love sexual pleasure. I of course do and I have found
that I can still have an amazingsex life even if not all of my
sex or for periods of my life. None of my sex was penis and
(54:14):
vagina sex. And I have, you know, like
people have your PIV sex. Like all good, but of course
there it comes with risks, it comes with pregnancy St. is all
kinds of different things and soto spread the word and spread
the sexy message that you can have be sexy, you can be having
fun, you can be connecting all kinds of things in these ways
(54:37):
that have lower risks. I think that's also just a good
message to get out there in the world.
And I just I think sex has so many more things.
And I also think, and this is not my unique thought, but I
think it was like I've heard DanSavage say this, that if.
Sex did. Not always mean penetration even
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in context where is a man and a woman, I think people would be
having a lot more sex. And so there's just there's like
so many great reasons and great.Yeah, there's so many.
Great. Reasons to be out.
There like masturbating and having sex on the Internet and
some of for me is money related,some of it for me is art related
and some of it is fun and exhibitionism, but some of it is
(55:20):
that I I really am motivated to get these messages out there.
Well, shoot people well. People, I didn't hear this lady
up here for almost an hour and y'all know Daniel?
Well, we ain't even taxed the service.
I ain't even asked her the fun questions yet.
So we're going to say that when we bring her back.
So, you know, we got to ask the $1,000,000 question.
(55:42):
Miss Rivers, can I call you a smoke buddy?
Oh yes. Absolutely, yeah.
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(57:33):
that that gets to get that in front of the camera.
I wish it was me. Tell everybody where they can
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And yeah, I'd, I'd love to, I'd love to stay in touch.
I would love to talk about and show so much more, including,
yeah, I, I, I love giving oral sex.
And so I think that's a big partof why I really like.
(58:15):
It's so fun for the people and Icannot wait to record it.
So yes, yeah, yeah, I love working with a woman that.
You did that that love sucking Dick because man that shit is
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(58:36):
over today? What did you learn well?
You'll need to stop with these negative shit.
With porn, porn is very positiveto women.
It is the ultimate woman empowerment.
You want to know fucking? Why?
One, she could be as freaky as nasty as she want to be and she
got to worry about you bastard judging her. 2 They get to run
(58:59):
their own business and make money off of their sexuality and
being sexy. You know how many women out here
that sit here and talk shit about her wish they were in her
position because most women would love to be a porn star.
The biggest problem is they're worried about people finding
out. You feel me?
That's why you can't make money in this shame.
Also, it makes a woman proud andconfident in her body you feel.
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Me because? You can see him call her fat
bitch, fat slut and all that good shit.
You know she'll say I'm a paid 1.
The point? Being is there's.
Many positives of being in this business.
It's. Help many ladies get through
past trauma, take back their power.
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It has fed families, created generational wealth for women
and men, but mainly women. Because, you know, women make
more money than men per capita in this business.
But even more so, it gives it gives women free.
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Dumb. In a world where.
They don't want them to be sexually free.
Look at what the. Government does.
They try everything to make us nonsexual.
Don't, don't. Don't let social.
Media fool you. Because it's funny.
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Because. When I say that, because look at
what the government does, look at how people talk the.
Most scariest thing on this? Earth to men, especially white
Christian conservative men, is awoman that sexually free,
sexually knows herself, and sexually confident.
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Because you can't control her. You feel me?
That's the reason why ladies used to burn their bras, cause
y'all wanted them to wear bras. They want to have their tits
out, you feel me? So with that being said, you
know how we end these things allday, every day.
Life is a learning experience. What's the point of the
experience? We haven't learned anything.
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Smoke this over. Say goodbye to him, GAIL.
Thank you so much for having. Me it's been great to have you
it's great to have great to haveeach other yes and can't wait
to. Do it again, talk to y'all later
people.
And we are live and I, I love when people give me a smile when
we start the show. It's such a pretty smile.
How you doing today, gorgeous? I'm doing really well.
I'm really happy to be here. I was just listening to some of
your episodes earlier today and I just I enjoyed the vibe and
this it, you know, I, I have my bong with me.
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So in case I want to smoke this,I love weed, but I've never
recorded a podcast episode whilesmoking.
So I'm just like, I'm excited for whatever this is.
For me light up and hit for me God Dang it I ain't got no weed
and the way my week been going Ican't wait till I finally get
some because it's been a rough week for me but better with a
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pretty smile you feel me? I warn you, So I can't, even
though I smoke, even though I smoke a bunch of weed, you know,
I smoke a bunch of weed. I do tend to cough a lot.
So just a heads up, don't worry about me.
Blinks. You cut out for a second so I I
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missed what you said. Well, I said I normally smoke
blinks but don't get twisted. I love me a good bone.
You know, pretty. I actually had one, didn't lost
it, you know, And of course I mean venom smokers.
So back in my younger days, I used to make bones out of
anything. Like do you mean like
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glassblowing or turning like apples or Tupperware or
something into? Them like for example I'll take
a 2 liter coke after I drunk it and turn it into a water bone.
Cool. You know, but but the difference
is I had no place to pack the weeds.
So I do is I made the holes where I put the blood in it, you
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know, hold towards the top wherethe mouthpiece is for the the
air release. I did smoke out of a Tupperware
somebody once turned into a bong.
So that's probably the closest experience I have with that.
But I'm so into like art and making and I guess sort of like
sort of engineering. So I do like the idea of
learning how to do more of thosethings myself as well.
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So thank you for the inspiration.
Oh, no doubt. No doubt, Because if people
remember one of my favorite shows, one of my favorite movies
was it Guy with Dave Chappelle in it.
But he will talk about the different smokers.
They talk about the inventive smoker.
I was an inventive smoker. Oh, inventive smoker.
I am very much an inventive smoker.
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So many ideas come to me. Yeah, God, I remember even like
when I used to come back for Christmas and we all hooked up
in my boy house. He literally detached the vacuum
cleaner and we and we used to throw guns with the with the
two. Wait with you smoked through a
vacuum? Yeah, you know, they got the the
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the extra pieces for the vacuum,right.
And he had like a the the oxygenmask.
So he put oxygen mask and we hadthe blunt to where you could
blow the gun and. Hopefully it wasn't too dusty.
Oh no, Oh no, no, no, he made sure to clean that motherfucker.
We can't even have that little cat here on my damn face to
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smoke a blunt. So what were the craziest way
that you smoke weed? I once smoked a cross joint.
I don't know if it's crazy but that's one thing.
And. That's a good ass rolling a
cross. I definitely, I definitely did
not roll it. I'm not great at rolling and
then what? Fuck.
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OK. One time my friends and I went
to the ocean and we used a magnifying glass as basically a
lighter, and we definitely had lighters.
We were like a little group of stoners.
But we just heard, I think my friend had heard that Snoop Dogg
did it. So we wanted to try and it
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worked. Oh no, it, it does it.
I mean, can we use the the matter of fact that I completely
used to burn ants with that shit.
I never did, you know what I'm saying, but.
Better to smoke weed. Yeah, man, no, I'm gonna tell
you, once I was in jail, these motherfuckers rolled a fucking
joint in jail. Now, I wasn't a part of the
smoke. They licked the bitch from the
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the wall, the wall plug. I don't know how the fuck they
did this shit. I was like, and still don't know
how the hell they got the weed in there and rolled the joint.
I think they used Bible paper. That is so many different kinds
of inventive and sneaky. Yeah, people, we people just
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love to get high. Like they'll figure it out.
Oh, for sure, how this piece notthat the worst thing is you have
weed and nothing to smoke in or I'm gonna figure out a way what
way to God that well, but fuck with you heard.
So now speaking about being artist, you know, artist and
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everything for you. Let's talk about the adult
stuff, shall we? Real quick, before I have the
before I talk to y'all for you, what do you love about being in
the adult sex work world? Oh, I love a lot about it and I
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want to be honest that I'm relatively a new beginner.
Like, I've been naked on the Internet for a decade at the
point this episode is going to come out.
But in terms of like the industry aspect of it, you know,
I'm relatively new, but I still with being naked online for a
decade, there's a lot to say. So one thing I love is that
like, I love the pleasure of it.You know, I wouldn't have gotten
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into this if I didn't love masturbating.
I do, I'm good at it. I've had a lot of time to enjoy
that. My vibrator happens to be like 3
feet from where we are right now.
So that's one really fun thing. And it's fun to to know that
other people enjoy seeing that as well.
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And I'm an exhibitionist, you know, only to people who want to
see, but so this is pretty perfect for that.
I also love being a different kind of person making this
content. So I have a pretty unique body
type. So I am fat or BBW, whatever
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they call it, with small boobs, which is a pretty rare
combination. And I used to be so
self-conscious about it and I'm not anymore but you.
Got a fat booty though. I got a giant ass.
No, because we always talked about, I always talked about
this before. It's very rare you have a BBW
with both tits and ass, even gonna have big tits and have a
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fat ass. Very rare that they both have
that, but you know, have both and rare if they don't have
neither. So even rarer.
And it was like, whenever I lookthrough the pictures, you see my
oh, she got a nice ass and some nice legs, man.
You know, I'm actually really surprised to hear that it's rare
to have both cause at least justmy experience growing up, I for
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most of my life I've been fat. There was a while when I was
quite thin, I regained it. Lots to say there that I'll
probably say for a different situation, but I, I remember
like it's so it was so rare to see people who look like me that
you kind of clock it. And so I, I remember these
little instances of other times when I met other fat women who
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also had small boobs or just like smaller.
And so at least maybe it's my insecurity or something, but I
feel like my perception is that usually a like a fat woman or
plus size woman would have big boobs and a big butt, Although I
only, I like I did. I literally did not know that I
had a big ass or that it was like distracting or exciting to
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people until I mean, literally till I started posting online.
And I think part of it is that it's on the back.
And so you just don't see peoplechecking it out.
Though now I've now I tend to notice it a lot more like once
you know, or you'll notice reflections or people just
treating you differently. But like, especially by like
whether, you know, if my dress is quite tight, people interact
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differently in some contexts andin many contexts, I don't mind
them interacting differently. But I, I honestly, I didn't
realize. And so yeah, I happen to, and
you know, the reason I'm, I, I didn't get yet to the fact of
having a big ass is that the unusual part is the combination
of big but small boobs. The big ass part I think is more
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common. And it's it's definitely
something that I get, you know, in terms of random comments,
it's and, you know, like messages on dating apps,
messages on my only fans. Sometimes attraction in the real
world or the, you know, the regular world.
My ass definitely gets a lot like a disproportionate amount
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of attention. But one of the really fun things
about what I've been enjoying about this this work, this art,
this industry is that I also do get a lot of attention on my
small boobs. And what's interesting is I
always thought I would have to make them bigger, look bigger,
hide the shape of them because they're also a little bit
pointier than, or at least some of the time they do kind of
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change depending on if I'm turned on or the weather and
stuff. But they're, they're, they're a
little bit pointier. And so I just never really saw
that as something that people would enjoy.
Like I just the message wasn't out there.
And I found that once like a bigpart of once I started feeling
less self-conscious, which a huge part of that came from
posting my nudes online on Reddit about a decade, a decade
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ago. And once I realized kind of
opened that floodgate of, oh, mybody is not hideous.
My body for many people, not everybody, but for many people
is enjoyable. And then in at least some
contexts, I'll dress tighter. I'll dress you know where like,
and I hate, I hate bras. I so much save how much I hate
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bras. So whenever possible, I don't
wear bras. And either way, like when my
boobs, their true shape and sizeis more visible, I actually get
a lot of positive, more positiveresponse.
And so that's just been a big part of all of this, whether
just in my regular life when appropriate, or in my actual
sexy content. The more raw and authentic the I
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do, the better, even if it meansunflattering angles.
Or, you know, maybe my, I don't,who knows, Like maybe my face
looks weird when I'm in pleasure.
Who even knows? But the truth is, sex and
sexiness, it doesn't have to look a specific way.
So that's been so joyful. And then another thing I'll say
is I love the interactions with some of my fans.
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I love that audience engagement.I honestly don't think I would
have been doing this for a decade at this point if it
weren't for the lovely people, the people who are already into
people who look like me, the people who just saw me and are
like, oh, interesting. Like I've had people tell me
that I've opened them up to a being attracted to a wider range
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of appearances. I've had people tell me that
they fuck their wife every single time they see that I have
a new picture come out. Or that using my pictures and or
videos, especially including theones where I am more explicitly
talking about body image stuff. A lot of it is just fun.
A lot of it is just sexy, you know, getting off that kind of
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stuff. But sometimes I have captions or
aspects of it that address body image more directly, and so I've
had people say that they feel less self-conscious about
themselves or they my pictures or videos have facilitated them
having their girlfriend feel more attractive or themselves.
And all that stuff is just dreamy.
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So we didn't went team damn nearover 10 minutes.
So hi smokers, time to smoke this over.
Welcome to the smokers lounge. You know I am Kavanaugh the
Southern Champ AKA the porn rap star, your wonderful host.
And you know where you can find me?
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fullswapradio.com also SGP radio.com Edward Skyhawk after
dark.com. Now ladies and gentlemen this is
a special episode because this lady does not show a face until
this moment you feel me? And I don't know why the fuck
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she wore the mask 'cause she fine as shit, got a nice curvy
body fat ass, sexy thick ass legs, and despite the fact that
tits are small, they are nice. And I am looking forward to
talking to this lady. I've been looking forward to
talking to you ever since I first contacted her.
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So I'm going to shut up and makethis gorgeous, sexy tall drink
of deliciousness. Introduce yourself.
Tell me who you are, baby. My name is Gal Maria Rivers.
I'm an artist and adult content creator and as was mentioned I
have an enormous ass and small boobs, a hairy body and I am a
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BBW or fat, whatever kind of word.
And I, I think I am first and foremost an artist, second a
masturbator. And I think that is sufficient
bio to for this moment to get usstarted with some conversations.
Basically she's a solo content creator people, so this is going
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to be a funny interview. Mostly slash so far.
I did start my first beginnings of a collaboration recently.
So and I I have some things in mind, including yeah, I have
some ideas that really directly to the face reveal, which means
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they might be who knows, you know, we're coming from the
past. So future me, maybe I will have
released these sexy collaborations that may have,
you know, genitals right in thisarea of my face in this July.
4th, you've been you've been there for 10 years, so your fans
is hungry to see that. I'm pretty sure because not
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because, not because that would be the biggest conversation I
always have with ladies is staying power and not doing
everything in the first year, moderation and stuff.
And like I said it, you're helping those things to sell
more because you have never donethese things and it's been 10
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years. Your fans been rocking you with
10 years, so now they get to seeyou in a different light.
Yeah, the face aspect of it or the collaboration I've had in
the past, I've put out a few. I think I can think of two
instances where somebody else's hands were in the image.
Like I have one video of me, my hands handcuffed with hot pink
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handcuffs and sucking on a dildothat's attached to the wall and
then hands coming in and spanking me.
And then another with this beautiful picture I adore of
somebody with their hands down my a really cute top.
It's just a really beautiful andalso hot picture, I think, But
that's, that's it so far. And so I'm I've really been
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excited to start to come out from outside of just my room or
just wherever I happen to be recording.
And so already right now, if people go to so I think the only
spot at this moment, Oh well, actually, by the time this comes
out, they'll be a lot more. But just telling you, on my Fat
Life, there's already a couple of pictures, I believe of like
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spanking and or flogging, stuff like that with a really sexy
collaborator, another woman who interestingly has a very
different body type from me, like in just many, many
different ways. And so I think together we look
really cool. And yeah, we recorded some
videos and pictures. And so a lot more of that will
be coming out. But honestly, I just know so
many sexy people. And I think a lot of them, you
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know, they've been watching me on this journey and they've been
excited to, you know, getting some of my content.
And so every once in a while, like if I'm flirting with
somebody and if I don't know that they record or I don't know
that they record and would put it out online.
And, you know, it's kind of I'llbe like, let me just fantasize a
little bit. And by the way, my fantasy
includes a video camera recorded, you know, pointed at
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us. And then after the recording, we
decide where, you know, where itgoes.
So I think it's really importantoutside of the professional
situation, in the more amateur situation, to not decide what
you're going to release before you record it.
Like I can make something, nevershow it to anybody, make
something and just share it. Just the people who are in the
room or just our trusted ones. Or we can post it online or sell
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it and stuff. And so that's one thing I'm
really excited about and I try to let people know with, hey,
you want to record with me? Well, don't be limited in what
we record or do by what you feelcomfy just being blasted onto
the Internet because I can blur your face.
I can, you know, release only like 90 seconds, but we were
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having an amazing time for an hour, you know, all kinds of
things like just options. So shoot.
So now let's go back into Time Machine 10 years ago.
What got you into this business?I first started posting online
because at the time I hated how I looked.
And what's interesting is I looked different.
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I looked more conventionally attractive at the time.
So in 2015, it was a few years after I had lost a ton of weight
and so I was very thin, didn't realize how thin I was and just
so many different aspects of my world and the world collided to
make me feel so self-conscious. So I was in some aspects getting
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positive affirmation from the outside and some of the help and
some of the hurt in really complex ways.
And I found myself lurking on a subreddit called Normal Nudes.
And I that subreddit changed my life.
Like every few years I will reach out to the person who runs
that and I would just say thank you.
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And I think it's time for me to do that.
It has been a few years, I thinksince I've reached out.
So I just I ended up posting nudes online after lurking for
either a few weeks or months, I just started noticing, Oh,
people will post these really sexy people, especially sexy
like it's especially women will post online.
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And in general, they ask that people will share in their about
their body image. So it's not just a place for
pictures, but it's also about discussing body image
experiences and also really importantly important in many
ways. I think that particular place
was the pictures are not supposed to be sexual.
So it's not about no sexy angles.
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No, you know, making your judging yourself up when men
post, they have to be flaccid, just all kinds of different
aspects. And so it's really just about
having a gallery and sharing experiences about what normal
bodies look like. And so I already started feeling
better by seeing the nudes of other women posting online.
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And then when I started thinking, well, maybe there's
something in this for me. Maybe I also will.
It will help me to get out of myown head and so.
I at the time I, I remember moving.
I, I haven't, I haven't moved like my arm hair or anything
like so it's not like I removed every little bit of body hair,
but I remember like shaving my legs, probably trimming my
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pussy. Like you as a rookie.
I had no idea. Now you don't need to shave shit
because it's a a whole genre forthat.
Yeah, turns out I'm a whole niche.
So. Yeah.
And, and and that's, I mean, that's been such an interesting
part of the process too, is finding like so many of the
things that I used to be so insecure about are things that
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are money makers, are things that some people are attracted
to. Or even if they weren't, it's at
best like even if somebody is neutral, like like if somebody
is negative about my appearance and my body hair, my size,
whatever, like that's fine. Just go over there, like go find
who you want. And so people who are either
neutral about aspects of me or of course positive, that's
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really what I, what I'm here for.
And so like posting those pictures, I will tell, I
generally tell people posting those maybe 7 pictures or so
that I posted in 2015 on that huge day of my life, which
turned out to be a huge day of my life.
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It's completely got me out of myassumptions of how other people
would see me. And that particular subreddit is
a place where you're not supposed, like I said, like no,
no sexual things. But very quickly, within
probably a few weeks or something, I found the gone wild
parts of Reddit and I've just been going wild since.
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And so, and it's so interesting too, because so there's gone
wild itself and the people who post and gone wild, it's mostly
people who look very much like models and you know, kind of
more that typical look. But once I found gone wild,
curvy, gone wild Harry, all these different kinds of
subreddits that either specifically like my specific
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combination of looks or they're just open to or they're just
like, hey, we want to see sexy women or we want to see sexy
people and broadly define sexy, very broadly defined because
that's how sexiness works. I have just been having so much
fun and this is by far the longest thing I've ever done.
I haven't always been very consistent.
Like this past for about a year and a half now, I've been
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monetizing on only fans and I'vehad to be very consistent
because I'm promising subscribers a certain amount of
things. I use spreadsheets and file
management and all of these things.
But you know throughout this decade that I've just been naked
online. There have been times when I
have literally hadn't posted something in months and I always
knew I was coming back because Ididn't see this leaving.
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I just was, I'm just very busy person.
I also only like 7:00-ish years into posting online, I realized
I was, I have ADHD and that was like about late, like 28 years
after starting to be on this planet.
So it's, you know, like ADHD certainly effects things like
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how I interact with people, but or like how I post both
positively and negatively, all kinds of things.
But, and so I get these messageslike I wouldn't post for a few
months every once in a while or a few weeks and people would
say, oh, I'm so glad you're back.
I've been waiting for you in my head.
I'm like, where'd I go? I'm just, I just don't post that
often sometimes. But then there are times like
2018, which is about three yearsafter I started posting in 2018,
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I gave myself a project. Anybody who knows me, whether
you know, with the adult contentor just my regular life knows I
love to give myself projects. It's a there's, it's A to my
detriment and harm. And so every single day in 2018,
I posted either a picture or a video, usually nude, but not
always. And along with it, there would
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be a short caption, something about my body image or well, my
body experience, either image orfunctional.
And that particular year, I mean, a lot of it was also just
sexy and raunchy. But I think that particular year
of posting was particularly artistic and focus, focus on
body liberation and understanding my experience.
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So it really has varied. Like if if people are hearing
this and seeing me and they're like, I don't care at all about
this body liberation or art stuff, but I want to see her
come perfect. And as of right now, you can see
my face as I come since we are now magically transported to my
post face reveal time. But if you know, if people are
interested in those social aspects that that justice
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component, the changing the situation that made me feel that
I was hideous and that I was supposed to wear thicker bras to
change how my body shape looked or wear baggy clothes or just
all kinds of different aspects that, you know, even if all you
care about is like me or people,whatever people being out there
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and feeling confident and feeling sexy putting their
showing themselves, then we're all of this is connected to
that. And so I, I want to be out there
showing people, especially people who have either look like
me or have something in common with my experience.
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You can be confident and it doesn't mean you have to be out
there sharing yourself like this.
I like this, but not everybody does.
But I wanted to show that it's an option.
And the nice thing is that the way I do that, one way that I do
that is by making a lot of sexy content for a different category
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of people. And there's overlap.
But the people who pay attentionto my project and my art and my
content, they tend to fall into,well, I'll just say the vast
majority of them are there because we're trying to get off,
you know, But there's also the people who are there because of
the, the justice and the, the social justice and the
confidence and the liberation freedom aspect of this.
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And then I love of course the overlap as well.
Yeah, because, because like I said, we said earlier that
there's girls that make money off of being inherited on shave.
I interviewed many of them and stuff of that nature.
And also my smokers know BBWS iswhere I made my money people.
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So I can tell you BBWS make money whether they got big tits
or not. So for you, how do they feel
that guys? Because a lot of times,
especially BBWS, they're not very confident in their looks
and their bodies, you know, period.
Even if they pretend to be how it feels to know that in this
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industry you are lusted for because he win the BBW because
you're a big girl, you know whatI'm saying?
And it's a big genre and a big fan base that love BBW.
I love being lusted over, so I love that.
I love also the surprise, like the sort of surprising aspect of
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it. Yeah.
I mean, it's increasingly not that surprising because we see
it, you know, it's yes, there's limits to like I, the time I
described about my body image atthe time I was very thin, so
it's not exactly relevant to that.
But before that, I was fat, I was a BBW and I had really bad
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body image and really until, youknow, basically until 2015.
And so I can tell you it is veryeasy to go through life and miss
that message, even though I guarantee that, you know, at
those times in my life, there are also people lusting over me.
And I saw some of it and I didn't see all of it.
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So yeah, it's less surprising now.
And like, you know, 2025 BBW, even just knowing it's a word,
knowing it's a, it's a term thatpeople search that already means
a lot in a way. And but all that, you know, all
that being said, as much as I can know rationally, I know from
experience all of that. I know that there is this
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interest in BBWS or other aspects of how I look.
But there's still something about the fact that it has only
been a decade since I got that message.
And it's takes a lot to unwind all the, you know, the, all the
other stuff. And so, you know, and I, I love
that you said that BBW is such awide category.
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And I think that's also really important because we're not a
monolith. Like somebody can be into like
somebody being into BBWS, yes. You know, if somebody is on
average into, you know, tends tobe into BBWS, then more likely
than not they're, they'll like it to be into me.
But on the other hand, it reallydepends because some people like
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women or whichever, you know, subcategory like specifically
BBWS, they put them to be hair, you know, have very little hair
or maybe they love big boobs or they love somebody even hairier
than I am or shorter or taller, whatever it is.
And so it's like it's a useful category, but at the same time
where people and so you know, that's why it's been really cool
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to engage both on different combinations like the subreddit,
big girl, small tits, they love me, I love them.
And if that's an interesting combination or they'll be, you
know, categories on Only fans orlike, actually I don't Only fans
isn't exactly have categories, but basically you know, where we
have hashtags and stuff, hairy BBW or BBW artsy or all kinds of
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different things. BBW, interracial, BBW anal, so
forth and so forth. Yeah.
Exactly. Yeah.
So it's just it, it's nice. It's like it's I, you know, it's
like I, I don't want to be fetishized or I don't know if
that's exactly the word, but it's like, I don't want to be
treated only as a, just like a category or a stereotype.
But then it's also the label is helpful because it helps people
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who find, you know, find that and then, you know, beautiful's
right in, you know, big beautiful woman.
Beautiful's right there, so. I'll take that a comment.
Beautiful. She got that first B down pack.
So now what made you decide to because the whole time she's
doing pictures and solo content for the most part.
So we're going to get to the boygirls stuff in a second.
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So for your solos, how often do you record to keep up the the to
keep up with updates? And two, how do you not?
How can I tell? Be inventive with your solos
because a lot of time girls it looks like the same fucking solo
different day or different lingerie, you know?
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OK so how I am inventive and howoften I record.
How often I record totally varies.
I think it generally has to do with if I get horny and or an
idea for a certain video. I don't find myself recording a
whole lot specifically to keep up with my schedule.
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Mostly because I have so much content recorded that I can
generally, like if I need something, I go into, you know,
my files. The file management is a
challenging aspect. So there have been times when it
is literally easier for me to just record a quick video and
know that I'll keep my, my eyes out of it rather than have to go
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back through my videos. What I've never released what,
you know, scrub through, check for my eyes.
But yeah, it's. So it's mostly.
It's mostly when. I just, I know that's kind of,
excuse me, challenging to hide your face.
Yeah. Especially the aims that y'all
have to get 4. You know it's one thing she's
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doing like cowgirl or something but were you talking about doggy
or Or even if you wanted to likeABJ?
And trust me, it's not cute whenyou blur the face and the Dick
just disappeared. Yeah, at that point, if you're
blur, I mean, you know, people can do that for sure.
Like whatever, whatever works, it's there's still some hotness
to it. But, and I've thought about that
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like like releasing videos of medoing BJ's or oral sex on on
anybody and then my eyes have tobe blurred.
It's like there's really very limited.
There, but you wear a mask so you know what I'm saying?
Well every now he wore a mask. There's options so.
So that's a huge thing that I dois that's a really common
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strategy I use is wearing masks.So I have quite a few.
I have. I'm a big, I'm a big fan of
utility. Because you have girls wear the
same goddamn mask in every video.
I'd be hating next year. I'd be like dance with you
though. Yeah, yeah, I'm looking over my
utility cart and one of the little subsections on it is
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specifically masks and other things that I use to hide my my
eyes. And each has pros and cons.
So I mostly do use just the samefew masks or strategies to keep
my face out. So I would say the masks aren't
the most interesting part and I cannot wait until I don't need
the masks or at least only maybesome of my collaborators.
If they're like less experiencedor have more privacy needs, I'll
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save them. You know, I'll use my
experience, but I just cannot wait to stop having to type my
eyes and to to answer about the creativity aspect of it and
keeping it fresh. It turns out I am a deeply
creative person and I had absolutely no idea how artistic
I am until I started being nakedonline.
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And so people will often ask me,oh, how did you get into art?
Because art comes up all the time in my life, you know, even
if people don't know about my adult content art.
And in the cases where it would be inappropriate to say
something like it's because I started masturbating online and
noticing I used interesting angles or I got really into
photography by, you know, photographing my boobs or
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whatever, you know, I, I find I have answers that that can leave
all of this stuff out. So, but the, the honest answer
is this that I really did start noticing how many creative
decisions I was making. And so I really have fun with
it. And I think another thing that
really helps is I don't stick toflattering angles.
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You know, I'm mindful of, you know, what things tend to look a
little sexier or, you know, things like, you know, when I'm
taking a picture where it's likefrom a low angle and it's up and
it's looking at my butt. And you know, I, I totally
acknowledge that I am using degrees of flattering there.
Like, yes, my butt looks bigger and more shapely and all of that
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stuff. But so I of course I do stuff
like that and that's part of creative decisions as well.
But I don't worry about things like my double chin.
Well, actually, I mean, I won't say I won't, don't worry about
it. Like having grown up with, you
know, in this culture, like I, I, I think about it.
But interestingly, in the case of nude or sexy content, it's
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like it just doesn't feel as much of a problem.
Like I know somebody is only looking at it if they're into
me. If they're a hater and they're
looking at whatever that's like this its own thing I can speak
to, but in general, people looking at this are into me and
I know when I'm into somebody, their specific body
imperfections don't bother me. If, if anything, it can actually
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be like extra exciting because it's.
Like this day and age, they wantreal women.
Yeah, that's why the BB WS got over even because people don't
realize how long I came into business in 2010.
BBW was bumping in 2008 because especially the black girls that
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the white girls didn't get hot until like 2-3 years later
because you had black tails which featured BBWS.
You had Squad magazine that featured BBWS in and there that
was smaller just had huge tits, you know, period.
And then you start seeing more sites and porn companies book
BBWS, you know, so they, they always wanted a real body
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because they got tired of the size 0, no tattoo, blonde with
blue eyes. She's skinny, you know what I'm
saying? So because porn started to show
that men like different types and figures and shapes of women,
and that's why that wasn't really represented back in the
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day. Yeah.
And I just, I find that because I'm not trying to make it look
like I am those like I can record from all kinds of
interesting angles. I can let my pleasure face show.
I can do really interesting things.
Like one kind of video or picture I really enjoy is to
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actually put my phone in a waterproof case, put it directly
on the ground, and then do whatever the fuck I want above
it and often whatever doing. Whatever I want.
That I was going to say, yeah, so.
Because you said waterproof. I said, oh see, God Dang, you
want to make you want to come out retirement with your ass,
but go ahead. It's a combination of things.
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So yes, the waterproof is reallyonly needed because of the
squirting, but the but the angle, it's like it's a unique
way. You rarely see somebody like
that. And and obviously that that
upward angle, like it's like especially if you like, if I
spread my legs, like it's a verynice upshot of my pussy and my
ass. So that's obviously a very
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exciting thing. But also you, you know, eat
within porn like you often see pussies and asses.
Yeah. And so it's, it's not just that,
it's also that, wow, this is first of all, you just, it's
like seeing somebody in a view you don't usually see, but also
it's the view of if somebody were lying under me while I
masturbate a while I squirt or if they were eating me out or
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whatever. It's like it opens you up to so
many different kinds of creativity and imagination that
you just don't get if you're mostly trying to do all your
angles from above this way kind of trying to, you know, it's I
actually had a phase in my life where I was like, this was a
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long time ago. I was so self-conscious and you
know, you're taught take pictures from above.
So there's like about a year or two of photos from my life where
I'm like smiling like this and everyone until one of them.
And it's it's kind of sad when Inotice it because it's like
this. I just got in the habit.
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I probably didn't really think about it that much that year.
It was just like, this is the way I minimize myself.
And it's like, first of all, people only seeing somebody from
one specific angle. That's not ideal, that's not
interesting, that's not artistic.
That's not like if you were withsomebody in bed, you would see
them from a lot of angles. And I think one of the really
fun aspects of this is that, youknow, some of this recreates
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like what it would be like if they were in the room with me,
in bed with me. And it wouldn't be, we would
only be face to face, you know, or them like looking down on me.
It's like, and I wouldn't be perfectly poised or, you know,
look perfect. I'd be sweaty and out of breath
and from all kinds of angles. And so that authentic raw vibe.
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I just love it. And I'm really, really am
excited to record with other people.
And by the way, I, you know, I will be very happy to record
with men. I imagine a lot of my recordings
will be, but I'm also pansexual or bisexual, either where it is
fine for me. And so I I.
Already knew that I already got some I would I manifest would
love to see how we. Yeah, I, I'm really excited to
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record, you know, with people ofany gender and any body type,
different ages, different interests.
So you shoot with a transgender?So sorry, ask the question
again. Would you shoot with a
transgender? Oh, absolutely.
Yeah, yes, yeah, I've, I've had,yeah, I've had many crushes on
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people who are transgender. I have had at least one very
sexy, well, I mean, not at least, but I'll just say one
sexy experience with a, with a woman who's transgender.
And, you know, I'm, for me, it'sjust I'm, I'm attracted to a
wide range of people and appearances.
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And for me, the the vibes, the connection, the interesting
exchanges are like this, you know, interesting discussions.
That's how my attraction tends to build.
And so, you know, and that, and that's relevant both for dating,
you know, my regular life as well as who I want to record
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with. And so, yeah, just it, it's I've
been trying not to like objectify people in my life, but
as I do think about what recordings I want to make this
next year, I'm kind of like justsort of hitting on assorted
friends or, you know, friends with benefits, that kind of
thing. In in some cases, it's like we
already know we have like a flirty vibe, but now I'm hitting
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on them with the like. What do you think about
recording it? God, we should live closer.
I would love to record with her.She's actually be a whole lot of
fun. Well, you know, there's always
the future. And now I'm also hearing about
like the another another podcastI just recorded on recently was
telling me about all these different conventions.
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And so I'm really excited about that.
I've been loving doing this podcast tour and like getting
out from behind my keyboard. And this already is so
connecting like face to face, but I can't wait to be out more
face to face in the like the real world.
Because he you showing your faceis going to open you up to a
whole new world and depend upon who you shooting with,
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especially as you elevate your shooting.
And what I mean by that some people understand you go from
shooting your homeboys, your fuck buddies to your shooting
will establish talent and it will elevate you.
And because one, they don't wantto hide nobody wear a mask
because a lot of they they companies ain't built off of
that. You know as well.
(42:42):
Now don't get twisted to contenttrade fucking day.
But they were wanting to see theface and why wouldn't you show
your face, you purity, you know,Yeah, why you failed me.
But yeah, yeah. And I'm happy to talk about.
Those decisions like why I didn't show with the, you know,
didn't show my face. Now here I am.
And But yeah, As for that, like I do want to say you're totally
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right that it's going to open meup to so many more
opportunities. And you're right there like I,
there's, of course there's some,I would assume the vast majority
of people wouldn't like the recording studios or these
things that they wouldn't recordwith somebody who's not showing
their face for so many reasons. But also it's this limitation
has so completely separated me from like in person networking.
(43:29):
So I can't wait to go to things like AVN or other conventions.
I have started attending more like sex positive events, sex
party, stuff like that. In my real life I've I've
started connecting more including also.
With like my non. Non monogamous community around
here 'cause that's what I am andbut there is.
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Always the. Separation of if for.
Example. Like if I were to tweet at a
certain person, well, what if I'm using the same kind of
hashtags under my, you know, my real name that shows my face as
this? Or.
If I go to a some sort of meet up or all kinds of different
(44:15):
things. And so, you know, I'm still
planning to work under a pseudonym.
I like that separation of name and pseudonym.
I think that totally makes sense.
Very few. Porn stars use their real name,
Yeah. Government or one one word name
yeah, but yeah the. But just that aspect of not
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having to hide my face and to say this is part of what I do
and I'm OK with my face being connected on the Internet
forever with this kind of thing.And not everybody wants that.
And that's fine. And I wasn't really sure I it
has been so many starts and stops this past decade in terms
of figuring out. I almost revealed my face in
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2020, actually. So, you know, it's been like
it's been back and forth and, but at this point, and I think
the 10th anniversary of making my still in metamorphosis a
Reddit account is, it's such an exciting milestone because not
only is 10 years a pretty number, but it is really saying
this is not just a passing thing.
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This is something that I'm actually really dedicated to.
And, and this is, I think, the most consistent thing I've ever,
ever, ever done. Well shoot well now there's a
lot of girls that they do solos because it seems like that's the
entryway for a lot of females. My theory is women usually go
(45:43):
with the easiest route to the money because a lot of girls
just solo because. You rescue 100 some of y'all
mother. Fuckers are still ashamed of
yourself come into this game andyou feel that someone find out.
I could just say when I'm just doing something, I just normally
doing my own sex life, being my home, you know?
(46:03):
Period. So for you, what made you decide
to switch to do collab collaborations?
Now you feel what I'm saying 'cause I'm pretty sure you do.
What? Webcam customs, You know what
I'm saying? And and solo content.
So what made you decide that? Now I want to switch to collabs
with men, women, transgender andso forth.
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Let's see, that's a great question.
I think part of it is that I really have enjoyed getting to
know other people who are into like who are sex positive or
into making content, making especially artsy, sexy content,
but not only also purely raunchy.
So I think part of it is the excitement, part of it is the
freedom, because with being ableto show my face and being comfy
(46:51):
getting out there and networking, it just opens up
more opportunities. But also like, I like hooking
up, why not record it? And also I think one other thing
that makes me kind of excited about this is I feel like I have
in some ways a unique relationship with sex and I
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think it's going to manifest in interesting videos.
And so to be a little more specific, one of the.
Things that bugs me. About most the porn I see is
that it is so repetitive and it's like PIV.
It's like we just go through these motions and then the main
thing is penis and vagina sex. And that's like the what, what
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it is. And I am excited to record some
of that content as well. But an interesting thing about
my sex life is when I in about 2018 ish, maybe 2019, I actually
decided to stop having PIV. And so I, I am planning to have
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it again probably this year, almost certainly recorded.
But I actually just found that when I took PIV off the table,
the sex I started having was so much more creative and
enjoyable. And also it was a great way to
filter out people who really were just in it for the in, out,
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in, out, you know, that's it. And it's like, fine, if that's
what somebody wants, no problem.I'm not the person for them.
And so it's been interesting because it's been at this point
years where the sex that I've had is oral sex, it's fingering,
it's mutual masturbation. It's, you know, various aspects
of, I mean, like I think recording myself having solo sex
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for years is also like a big aspect of my sex life as well.
And you know, there's, there's so many more aspects of sensual
and sexual play. And so when I think about it,
the different kinds of people that I might make videos with,
well, it's not going to be a series of videos where in every
single video we start off by flirting, then we start making
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out, then we rapidly remove our clothes, oral sex, then PIV,
then maybe anal, you know, and like, and then fade to black or
whatever. Like some videos can be that,
but it's like there's so many more.
It's just so much more interesting if you're creative
and you just go with what actually feels good.
And so I feel like that is also something I'm really excited
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about. Like sometimes if I tell
somebody, hey, would you want tomake this kind of video with me?
Like there's somebody I was thinking about making a mutual
masturbation video with. And I am also very open to
making other kinds of videos with them.
But at the moment, that's how I thought about it.
Like, what kind of interesting video would this be if at least
in that video I was thinking about, we never even touched
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each other. Two people sitting nearby
lusting after each other and touching themselves.
Like, you just don't really see that many videos.
And so by just thinking about like, what might be interesting
having more and more people or like having more and more people
to record these different kinds of things with, it's just it
just makes sense to me. Yeah.
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Because. I think the biggest mistake
girls make. I keep saying this porn was.
Great. When we did storytelling, we had
some storytelling and it wasn't just typical like what you just
said right there is not typical and it's a story behind it.
Now it's like you said they justfucking 6 minute video doggy
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style. She giving head this that third,
and I keep telling people that'snot sustainable business plan
for you to make money with because people don't get bored
with them type videos after a while, you know, period, just
like I tell females, I don't give a damn how great of a solo
artist you is. If you ain't invented with your
solo, they're going to get boredwith your solos, you know,
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period, because it's because fans become invest invest in you
emotionally and they want to seea maturation.
They want to see an evolution ofyou, you know, period.
Now you bout the grand a whole bunch of other fans, because now
they've seen you with a mask anddoing solo.
Now they see you without the mask and now you're working with
this and this. It's going to make the fans
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spend more money. You're going to make the fans
follow you even harder, you know, and everything.
So I'm like, shit, that that that's creative as fuck.
I hang in the phone with just like I used to love this shit
where the girls do the Jack the doodle.
She's sitting behind him, hugging him and she jugging him
all he just. Yeah, I.
I want to do a video like that. I'm sorry that shit, you know,
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faithful. Another thing that I have.
Seen not nearly enough content of that.
I think there's a demand for is grinding content like grinding
dry humping. Except for people like me.
I mean it has a whole site for that.
Shots out to heck Tech and dry bone.
Yeah that that's the whole thing.
It's it's she grinds on him and then gives him head after.
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But he didn't come out to the head part.
She up there giving him a lap dance, grinding on him in his
jeans. Yeah, yeah.
And for me. Like for me there is like
grinding and I don't dry humpingis so inaccurate for it because
it gets me so wet and soaking that it becomes like just such a
wet situation. That is one of the things that
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physically feels best to me. And so and I know that's a lot
of people. Like of course, why wouldn't it?
It's a sexy person you are rubbing your genitals on.
I am more stimulated by outer course, which is why it was
like, you know, pretty easy for me to just to say that could be
a hot way to start a. Scene where she's driving up and
then and then eventually it turns into sex that'll be hot
(52:46):
and push me by the time I pull out the pants, their pussy
dripping wet. Yeah, and I would.
Say, just like a slight rewording of how I would say
that is to me it seems like sex the whole time.
You know, I, I, I understand like there's some sort of
differentiation like it does feel like it's escalating more,
especially when stuff is really soaked.
But in my experience, like, you know, especially if like the
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material's not all that thick orlike how soaked that I will make
the other person, it feels very good and very much like sex when
your genitals are pushing, even if there's not like an in, out,
in, out. Yeah.
And I've seen a little bit like when I'm getting off when I do
or when I'm getting off not on video.
When I'm on video, I'm. I don't think I've almost never
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actually been watching porn at the same time, mostly just
because like the technology and all that, all those things.
But if I'm just, you know, getting getting off, I will.
One of the things I search sometimes is grinding content
and there's so little and so like I just I want.
To add more sexiness. I want to add more of the kind
of sexiness that I like, and there's so many reasons that I
(53:53):
want to do this, and one of themis I think it's a form of harm
reduction. Like people love to have sex,
people love sexual pleasure. I of course do and I have found
that I can still have an amazingsex life even if not all of my
sex or for periods of my life. None of my sex was penis and
(54:14):
vagina sex. And I have, you know, like
people have your PIV sex. Like all good, but of course
there it comes with risks, it comes with pregnancy St. is all
kinds of different things and soto spread the word and spread
the sexy message that you can have be sexy, you can be having
fun, you can be connecting all kinds of things in these ways
(54:37):
that have lower risks. I think that's also just a good
message to get out there in the world.
And I just I think sex has so many more things.
And I also think, and this is not my unique thought, but I
think it was like I've heard DanSavage say this, that if.
Sex did. Not always mean penetration even
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in context where is a man and a woman, I think people would be
having a lot more sex. And so there's just there's like
so many great reasons and great.Yeah, there's so many.
Great. Reasons to be out.
There like masturbating and having sex on the Internet and
some of for me is money related,some of it for me is art related
and some of it is fun and exhibitionism, but some of it is
(55:20):
that I I really am motivated to get these messages out there.
Well, shoot people well. People, I didn't hear this lady
up here for almost an hour and y'all know Daniel?
Well, we ain't even taxed the service.
I ain't even asked her the fun questions yet.
So we're going to say that when we bring her back.
So, you know, we got to ask the $1,000,000 question.
(55:42):
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(57:33):
that that gets to get that in front of the camera.
I wish it was me. Tell everybody where they can
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Right about being created sucking Dick.
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And yeah, I'd, I'd love to, I'd love to stay in touch.
I would love to talk about and show so much more, including,
yeah, I, I, I love giving oral sex.
And so I think that's a big partof why I really like.
(58:15):
It's so fun for the people and Icannot wait to record it.
So yes, yeah, yeah, I love working with a woman that.
You did that that love sucking Dick because man that shit is
getting nasty and wet and beautiful who got?
Me ready to fuck the brakes. Off of 'cause if you got a good
mouth, I know that pussy is wonderful, especially that mouth
is but puts definitely wet. So smokers, where did you smoke
(58:36):
over today? What did you learn well?
You'll need to stop with these negative shit.
With porn, porn is very positiveto women.
It is the ultimate woman empowerment.
You want to know fucking? Why?
One, she could be as freaky as nasty as she want to be and she
got to worry about you bastard judging her. 2 They get to run
(58:59):
their own business and make money off of their sexuality and
being sexy. You know how many women out here
that sit here and talk shit about her wish they were in her
position because most women would love to be a porn star.
The biggest problem is they're worried about people finding
out. You feel me?
That's why you can't make money in this shame.
Also, it makes a woman proud andconfident in her body you feel.
(59:24):
Me because? You can see him call her fat
bitch, fat slut and all that good shit.
You know she'll say I'm a paid 1.
The point? Being is there's.
Many positives of being in this business.
It's. Help many ladies get through
past trauma, take back their power.
(59:47):
It has fed families, created generational wealth for women
and men, but mainly women. Because, you know, women make
more money than men per capita in this business.
But even more so, it gives it gives women free.
(01:00:08):
Dumb. In a world where.
They don't want them to be sexually free.
Look at what the. Government does.
They try everything to make us nonsexual.
Don't, don't. Don't let social.
Media fool you. Because it's funny.
(01:00:29):
Because. When I say that, because look at
what the government does, look at how people talk the.
Most scariest thing on this? Earth to men, especially white
Christian conservative men, is awoman that sexually free,
sexually knows herself, and sexually confident.
(01:00:52):
Because you can't control her. You feel me?
That's the reason why ladies used to burn their bras, cause
y'all wanted them to wear bras. They want to have their tits
out, you feel me? So with that being said, you
know how we end these things allday, every day.
Life is a learning experience. What's the point of the
experience? We haven't learned anything.
(01:01:14):
Smoke this over. Say goodbye to him, GAIL.
Thank you so much for having. Me it's been great to have you
it's great to have great to haveeach other yes and can't wait
to. Do it again, talk to y'all later
people.
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