August 22, 2025 • 56 mins
This week I interview Angelina Elizabeth. She is a humble pornstar who was has not much confidence in her looks and body. We discuss her starting when she was 18 and doing camming then she discuss her first shoots in porn. We talk about her having body dysmorphia and we discuss the mental health issues in porn. She talks about still in stock about having a fan base and becoming a big name. She talks about her booth and shoot at Exxxotica Chicago and being an ATL Model and being into anal sex and BDSM. Plus More.
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(00:01):
And we are live. How you doing this wonderful
Saturday night? Good.
How are you? I'm doing fine.
Of course the pictures don't do your dresses.
You are so sexy something. Thank you.
I was checking out your page andeverything and yes, I think
where, where did you go to the Chicago Exotica?
(00:25):
Yes, I did. I had a booth there.
It was booth 8:30. Oh, you had a booth?
Yes. Oh, tell us.
OK, Tell us about your experience in Exotica Chicago.
Well, Exotica was a little bit different from my first booth in
New Jersey because I did have myown booth in New Jersey first.
But Chicago was fun. I did sell a little bit more
(00:47):
pictures than I did in New Jersey.
And also, unfortunately, the person who I had helping me
actually ditched me the very last minute, but I still ended
up having a good time anyway. I'm not going to let him ruin my
whole week, but you know. So it so how does it feel to
have a booth? You know what I'm saying?
(01:08):
Because because I've talked about it before on the show that
to to keep it. How can I put this?
You get looked at differently when you have a booth versus
you're sitting as on this booth.So for you, like how do you feel
to have your own booth versus you ate somebody's booth and the
(01:29):
work behind having thus booth? Because, you see, I haven't
heard the stories. Can you repeat the last part of
the question? Because you.
Did that also the work behind having your own booth?
Because it's a lot of work. Yeah, it is definitely a lot of
work, but I can definitely say Ifeel like I enjoyed a lot more
(01:50):
than I would being sponsored by someone.
Because a lot of the times when I hear other companies doing
booths, they usually do shared time with the models instead of
having a model there all three days in a row.
And whenever I have a booth, I like being all there all three
days in a row to sign for my fans.
And how I feel, because you say you had a booth in New Jersey.
(02:13):
How do you feel? But I'm pretty sure with
Chicago, you went to Chicago, you had more fans that came up.
So how do you feel to it? To me, I look at it like when
you these conventions, it kind of gives you a parameter of how
far your reach is getting. So with this convention and you
having a booth, how much did yousee?
(02:34):
How much your reach has grown? So far, only a little bit.
I can definitely say probably around my so my followers
actually fluctuate up and down all the time.
I think it's because there's bots on Twitter and everything
like that. But from last time I from the
convention, last time I'm prettysure I went up almost like 500
(02:55):
followers or something like thatbecause I was around 8.6 K
followers now or not. 8.69 point6K and now I'm almost at 10K.
So I'm at 9.9 now. I'm actually squeezing my way up
there to 10K. Oh.
My goodness. So shoot.
So we're going to begin like this for you.
(03:18):
What's the one thing that made you glad that you got into this
business? Definitely the bigger, like the
much more stability I've had with the job because when COVID
happened, I was actually weldingfull time and the pay wasn't the
problem. It was more so the food prices
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going up and everything and all the bills going up and then my
pay wouldn't, my pay wasn't going up with that.
So when I started doing sex work, I started having a lot
more flexibility in my time. That being said, I can also make
money and also prioritize my health and I can go to my
doctor's appointments and all this and that.
So that's like the biggest thingI can definitely say is when I
(04:03):
get out of the industry. Yeah, because people don't
realize how much it does empowerladies, bring confidence and
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look fool you. She's a nasty, dirty freak.
She has a nice body, nice ass and she looks like that.
(05:52):
She is going to definitely be one that you're going to
remember and be seen for years to come in this business we
known as porn. And as you can see, she already
got her mind on the brand because come on, she how many
people actually get boots? You feel me?
So I'm going to shut up and let this sexy Paul introduce
(06:16):
herself. Tell who you are, baby.
Hey so I'm Angelina Elizabeth and I'm alternative model and
also fetish model, a companion and an amateur Cam girl.
Oh my. Goodness.
Also in the in the process of doing dance classes.
Oh, so your brand is very expensive.
(06:36):
She's a porn star companion. She she all ended in a bag of
chips. So let's go.
Let's go. So let's you say it's round the
pandemic. He was aware he was welded.
What made you decide to go with sex work?
Many things actually. Well, the first thing I can
definitely think that I always say 1st is my, my peers, my
(06:58):
friends, because my friends weredoing sex work and specifically
a couple that I had met in my first well, job when I was 18
years old. They were a polyamorous couple
and the woman in that couple, she was doing she's doing
camming. And I didn't know what camming
was at that point, but I the more I learned about it, the
more intrigued I was. So Long story short I started
(07:19):
camming at 18 and then followingthe years later my friends also
showed me sites like Sexy jobs which was where I got my first
porn gigs and also sites like only fans and fans Lee as well.
However I don't use fans Lee. I tried that for a little bit
but I didn't like it so I have only fans in many of it.
So you say you first started with the webcam and what have
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you. So for you, how was it when you
first started with webcam and tell us about that experience.
That was, it was very frightening, but at the same
time very exciting because I have never gotten that type of
attention from anybody before. Because just being online, just
knowing I'm live in front of strangers, like with no, like
(08:02):
with barely any clothes on, it was just an exciting feeling for
me. It it gave me a sense of like
adrenaline, if you know what I mean.
Oh yeah, I can't believe it and everything.
And plus on top of that, once again, empowering knowing that
men find you sexy and look at you like you're a sex symbol.
How? How was that to be adjustment?
(08:26):
It definitely took me some time because with how shy and
submissive I can be off camera, like off camera, especially at
first, I don't know. I don't know how to explain it.
No, because you you shy what have you, because a lot of times
especially like because especially when you being 18,
(08:49):
you may not been like the popular girl in high school.
The girl and all the guys. Oh God no, no, a lot of I was
bullied by a lot of girls actually.
Nanny they mad and shit 'cause their boyfriends jerk off to
her. Probably, yeah.
The best for me Remember you bullied me when your husband
(09:11):
jerk off to me, he told me. Honestly though, now that I'm
older I've heard more backlash from my parents and my parents
friends than people I was in high school with.
More like I ruined porn for my parents and all their friends.
So, Debbie, I can't watch it there.
(09:32):
Jill, block me please. I can't like.
The thing is though, I'd lose a lot of my fan base if I start
Geo. Block.
So I can't Geo block anymore. I did that at first, but keeping
away from Pennsylvania, New Jersey, etcetera, I just can't.
That's where my most of my fan base.
Is Oh yeah, for sure, because because because normally like
(09:52):
just right down South, we love them thick and she thick people.
Trust me, we you know, one day we're going to get pretty small.
We should show that off. But anyway, so so you went from
webcamming then you said OK, howmany years was it between you
doing the webcam and and you going to sexy job finding
(10:15):
finding porn work? I'm I have to count the years
19/20/21 probably like 3 or 4 years about I might be a little
off. He was camping the whole time.
He was camping the whole time inbetween these.
(10:36):
Not camping consistently. There was a big chunk of time
where I wasn't on chatter bit atall and I was only doing Only
Fans because when I was on only Fans I was mainly model, just
doing mainly modeling work for Suicide Girls as well.
And then I was doing my full time well job at the time, so
that's really all I had time for.
(10:57):
I didn't have time for any porn jobs until I got a little older
and then I wasn't in welding full time anymore where I had
more flexibility, more time, my schedule to do porn shoots.
So so when you let's talk about that first porn shoot, you went
on sexy jobs and tell us about the first gig that you had.
(11:18):
Well, I always like to technically think that my first
real gig was with West Philly Dungeon.
However, if I say that that thenI'm lying because my first ever
shoot was with adult selected adult models.
However, it was a very, very poor experience so I don't like
to usually talk about it, but I will talk about it now because
yeah, I, I, I'm comfortable doing so.
(11:41):
But Long story short, I got ripped off because it was a porn
shoot, a boy girl for only $500.And there was also rimming
involved. And I did eat a guy's ass.
And that was the only time I atea guy's ass.
And I still haven't to this day because no one deserves my mouth
on their asshole unless they're worthy.
And I've still yet to find any man worthy of my mouth on their
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asshole. Oh my God, it it means she
wouldn't like you if she eats your ass.
But she said that what she basically saying you're probably
going to be a husband. So but but with the dungeon 1.
So was that BDSM scene or was that boy girl scene?
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What type of scene was it? Yeah, it was a little bit BDSM
as well as boy girl, because I can definitely say anyone who's
seen Austin Michaels in his pornshoots, you know, he's a little
rough. He loves the spanky Spanx and
the the chokey chokes and stuff like that.
But we used his cross, we used his sex swing.
(12:42):
We were on his bed. We were doing all types of
sorts. Like I've done a couple scenes
with him after that, but my first ever scene with him that's
exclusively on his page was like, it was it, It was like a
real, I feel like that was my first real porn scene because
not only it was real rough sex, but it was actually like really
professionally done, like, you know what I mean?
(13:02):
Because we had a camera person as well.
So now let's paint the picture with that because you're not
only just doing a boy girl thing, you're doing a BDSM
submissive probably. Damn they want to say select
training video for the most part.
(13:23):
I mean, I guess so it's just hard, like since I'm such a
newbie, it's hard for me to kindof correctly categorize stuff.
Like it's hard for me to say, oh, this is definitely BDSM
because some of this stuff is just so natural to me and normal
to me that I don't really think of it as like taboo or like.
I'm not but but but what I'm saying is it's you're doing this
(13:44):
on camera. So it's like you walking in,
it's a sick you're on camera. It's your first time shooting
this. And it ain't just simply you
just fucking it's, you know, BDSM.
So the question that I asked himis what some of the things they
did to help you feel comfortableon set and and stuff like that.
Was you nervous? You know, how was it filming it?
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How was it after, you know, paint the picture?
Well, specifically with Austin, it was such a great experience
because off camera our during our behind the scenes moments,
we're definitely talking, getting to know one another and
we also talk about common interests and also maybe some
experiences they might have had in the industry and stuff like
(14:29):
that. But specifically me, I went
there and I told them how my first experience went with a
select adult models and how I felt unsafe afterwards because I
didn't, I was in New York for that shoot, so I didn't know
where I was. But on the other hand, with
Austin, not only I knew where hewas, but also they were very
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calming to me. Like they, they know how to
provide aftercare and beforecareif I'm terminal.
Like if that's correct terminology for it.
No, no, for that type thing you got to provide aftercare because
that's it's intense. I don't know enough of them to
know people. And for you, how often do you
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feel to keep up with your content?
Because I'm pretty sure you do solo and so forth, what have
you. So what do you shoot for your
content and how often do you shoot to keep up with it?
Well I haven't had anything downand consistent yet because this
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past year and a half has been like the first year I've done
porn but I haven't done much solo stuff because I do struggle
with body dysmorphia. That is something I'm working
working towards right now. Also I'm on a wake weight loss
journey right now because I almost died of sepsis and gained
a lot of weight so that plays into why I don't do solo.
But on the other hand, my other videos are normally they're
(15:56):
natural like they naturally comeand go is if I find someone I
actually want to work with and Ifeel like I have chemistry with
them. And then because I'm very picky
with my trade scenes, I don't I don't work with just anybody.
I don't want to just like fuck on camera and like, call it a
day, you know, because I am pickier with my content.
(16:16):
But at the same time, I don't watch my content because I know
I'm gonna nitpick my little things about my myself.
So I let whoever, whoever's editing the video post the
video. But yeah, I, I consistent, it's
not consistent enough for me to say, oh, it's once a month, so
and so. But every so often I, I upload
(16:37):
new videos. Like I can definitely say I have
a bunch of upload or uploads in process now with creators that I
had worked with in Las Vegas andalso this past recent Exotica.
So that's just kind of random and all over the place at the
moment. But once I get more, once I get
(16:58):
a steady schedule down more thanI'll probably say, Oh yeah, I'll
upload a new video this month and this month and so on so
forth. I hope that answers your
question. Oh, yeah, that's my question.
So now you've been saying you'vebeen doing this for a year or
so. How far are you want to take
this, take it to this in this business?
Um, well, honestly, I did think about that and part of me has
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actually accepted the fact that I'm going to be more low stream
than mainstream because I am on the curvier side and I'm also on
the alternative side because I do have tattoos.
So that kind of weighs down my options a little bit as far as
porn goes. But I just want to live my life.
I love my lifestyle the way it is.
(17:42):
I really love my friends. I love the things I do.
I love my hobbies. I love my animals.
You know, I want to pay my billsand be happy.
And that's what I've been doing with sex work in general lately.
And that just that doesn't even just go for porn.
It goes for my other work as well, like escorting and camming
and all that. Like as long as all the bills
get paid and I'm happy at the end of the day and I still the
(18:03):
lifestyle I want, you know, thenI'm happy.
I don't have to be a mega superstar, but I am still gonna
be professional and still work towards little goals here and
there because I do take it one day at a time, you know?
Hey, I'm gonna tell you what's funny.
You can tell that she's a rookiebecause she she don't know, do
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she? People she say, 'cause I'm on
the chunkiest, first of all, I'mgoing to say it's again, BBW
make the most money in this business.
Stop playing with her, stop playing with him and thickness
make the most money in this business.
You. You thick.
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And she's thick. You should.
You have a nice shape, Nice thickness, Noble.
Trust me, you. Thank you.
You'd actually be surprised to hear there's been about four or
five different companies that have rejected me or have taken
back offers because they say I'mtoo curvy or too big for them.
(19:06):
Where the pink would see. How can I put this?
In your situation you would probably fall more on the BBW
side. Well, actually I've been told by
multiple people and that's not my category.
And personally I don't, I don't,I yeah, I honestly don't.
(19:28):
I don't categorize myself in BBWbecause I also, that also goes
with how I believe my morals andstuff because I believe that
there is skinny privilege in this industry.
Yeah, and when they're skinny, skinny privilege and everything
like that. My what I think is that BBWS
already have limited options as it is.
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So I, me not being an actual BBWI, want the real BBW to
receive that work. I don't want to receive BBW work
when I'm not actually BBW. See, now here's the thing.
This way it comes down to, and Itell girls this, it's not about
at first. It might be by type, whatever,
whatever. If you went, these companies
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don't fuck with you until you white hot.
And what I mean by that is you're hot.
That means that it's your money,you're bankable.
And This is why I tell any female the industry, especially
if you're trying to get to the companies, keep this in mind.
They pay attention to who you fuck on that camera.
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I'm not talking about look. No, I'm not talking about look.
It's if you fucking the dudes a day booking it automatically
puts you on their radar because they booked these guys.
That's why I tell females if youtake the biggest series you want
to work with established talent.The reason for it is that one,
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they're more known, thus they have a fan base, a fan base a
little bit more vast, which you could tap into.
Two, if you're trying to get thepaid work, If they're getting
paid work or they do paid work, guess where they find their
girls in? Oh, I saw you shoot this girl
named Angelina Elizabeth. How was she on say?
(21:26):
OK, how was the sales of Oh, youbringing it back?
She makes money. Well, she'd be interested in
working for us. That how it works.
You feel me. So when I tell females it's you
want to try to fuck with the bigboys if you can, you feel me.
You already on the path of doingthat anyway.
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And hell, she got a Boo, but shehad his eye.
So she's around him and which inturn you having the booth put
dudes on the right put dudes putyou on the radar because not
everybody has a booth. I keep telling you about it's a
different they look at you differently when you got a
booth. They're like, oh, oh, she take
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this very seriously, you know, period.
And so excuse me. So trust me, you being thick,
it's tell you it's it's it's actually a good thing, babe, you
know, period, trust, believe me.And you being an alt alt model,
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there's girls that they play both sides effects, you know,
and person. Nothing wrong with being an old
model because the PDSM niche is way more lucrative, way more
money. I'm just saying so so for you.
So now we about to have a littlebit of fun with some questions,
(22:47):
shall we? So do we do anal?
I'm sorry. Repeat that.
Do you do anal? Oh yeah, I do anal when it's
told in advance and also if it'sa paid scene because prep is
just so hard on my body to the point where I'm like it has to
be worth it in order for me to do the prep.
(23:09):
So is it, is it something that you into or is just more of AI
do it for a business transaction?
I am into it, but it depends on the person.
I can definitely say in some of the anal scenes I've done, I
have been in a little bit of discomfort or pain at first when
it first gets inserted. But once it kind of works its
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way in there back and forth and I'm comfortable, then I'm
actually very much into it. Like my very first, my very
first anal scene was with Private Society and it was with
John Long. And I can definitely say it was
very comfortable. I had a great time and I I had
no idea. Time out, time out.
(23:53):
Look, I understand she had body dysmorphia, but see, she she she
ain't found her in her her innersex her her inner you know what
what we call sex symbol. She just dropped private society
just casually. Yeah, you know, yeah, if the
anal scene was with private society, Like, really, really
(24:14):
woman. I did DP with them too actually.
I can't you, you, you know, songlook, I understand you want to
be humble. You know, for the smokers.
You, you ain't got to be humble on my podcast, Stop playing
(24:38):
people. My fans know who's private
society is. They just don't shoot anybody,
people. And special thanks to Tadpole,
because he's the one who got me to private society.
(25:03):
So, so, so, so it's hard to say.The next question I'm about to
ask you. You into gangbangs?
Oh yeah, I love gangbangs. Most of my gangbangs were not
filmed, but I do want to do morefilmed ones.
Yes. Hold on a minute.
She name dropped Tadpole. Why is she?
(25:27):
Why is she faking the fuck on mygoddamn show, people?
You do know my fans know these people, right?
I didn't interview Tadpole. We know his pedigree.
He, he, he. You don't work with someone that
rebel rider shoot. Yeah, she fluffed for my game
(25:51):
day. We'll get work.
She just she just named two big names.
Continue. Oh yeah, I was going to say
yeah. Speaking of Tadpole, yeah, I did
a gang bang for them. However, I wasn't put to my
(26:12):
fullest potential, I will say that.
However, it was really fun and Rebel Rider did it, so there's
that. And how many?
How many people see the game bang?
Only five guys for that one. So what is it about a gangbang
that getting pussy wet? Just the fact that there's
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multiple hands on me at once, I don't know.
I love all that attention at once.
There's just something about it.I don't know how to explain it.
And of course she asked the other question.
She she have done ADP and have you done ADV double badge?
(26:56):
Not yet. I will eventually, but not yet.
Oh my God, So they say. Yeah, I'm trying to think speak
to the orgasm that you get with ADP.
Speak of the what? Orgasm that you get from ADP?
That is very, very hard to explain because I haven't had
(27:18):
many of those. I've only had probably like,
yeah, I've only ever yeah, but Itook, come to think of it, the
only time I've ever gotten DP was like, I did it recently with
six and deem and then the private society one.
I I don't even know if I actually orgasmed or not, but
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it's a definite different feeling from when I'm just
getting fucked in the pussy. You know, it's it's a really
good feeling. Like I've definitely came with
toys in both holes before too. And that's a different type of
orgasm. But I need to kind of get more
DP in or even more DP sessions if they're not scenes, you know,
to just kind of feel and get to know the orgasms more.
(28:01):
Because, like, it's been a little too long now to think, to
remember. People let me see him damn
orgasm. That what he says to me.
Oh man, I mean, are you one to make the the Are you one in your
personal life? Is it hard to make you orgasm?
(28:24):
Oh yeah, definitely. I usually I hardly ever orgasm,
if I do it's usually if I have some like it has to be something
in my pussy with clit stimulation at the same time.
But it's very very very difficult.
Like I know for a fact too I've only been able to squirt like 2
(28:47):
times that I can remember. Once by the by a girl when I was
18 years old and then when I dida shoot with Wagga bang he
fucking he blew my mind. He made me squirt all over the
place. I don't even know how I did how
I did that because. And we a squirter, and we squirt
too. I.
Didn't I? Didn't know I was a.
(29:16):
Come on, we're getting. Cut.
Did it just glitch out for you too?
Yeah, it grish out for a second.Yeah, so you know, you say you
didn't know you. OK, what did you last hear me
say? You didn't know you was a
squirter. Yeah, that's the thing.
Because nobody ever makes me squirt.
And Wang a Bang suddenly did like when during our scene, he
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was the only person who's like, ever made me squirt on camera.
And then once when I was 18. But I'm also really dehydrated
all the time. Was was he?
If you plan to squirt, you got to drink a lot of water anyway
if we especially plan to do a scene with it.
So I mean, do you squirt often or the the?
Scene that I was talking about that wasn't planned.
(30:03):
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off.
No, it's all good. And how bad would you squirt?
How? I mean how, how do you squirt?
How is he drizzle is sprints. Sprints.
It was a spritz all over the place, but like I said, nobody
ever makes me do that. I still to this day I don't know
how he did it. I don't even think he ever
(30:24):
uploaded that video actually. I would have been, I would have
uploaded that with a quickness. First time made a girl squirt.
Oh God, that did. That'd be the name of it.
First time squirt. Oh my God.
So wait, so for you now that youmade mention of the fact that
(30:45):
you know your companion, what have you and everything, So what
made you decide to get to that side of the business?
I'm sorry, get to what side of the business?
The companion side. Oh, Oh yeah.
So the companion side. So originally I was very much
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against going to do or doing that just because I was having a
lot of safety concerns. But once I learned more about it
and learned how you can be more assertive with like screening
and like deposits and stuff likethat, then I was like, OK, if
someone's actually serious aboutthis, this might turn into a
good deal. But my first couple escort
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sessions went really well. And then after that I was like,
fuck it, I'll make a tryst account.
So I've had many, I haven't had many bad experiences with
escorting. I've only had maybe like one or
two awkward, awkward encounters,but that's about it because I'm
really good with my screening. So it was mainly my friends got
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me into that. So now.
Y'all know how we talked about this, the old school mentality,
the girls that came into business, they only did porn to
boost the escorting. So for you, how much has the
traffic picked up since you started since you've been doing
porn? I feel like I don't really pay
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like The thing is, is like I don't pay attention to the
traffic as much as I would like to because sometimes if I pay
too much attention to it, then I'll get a little bit fixated on
it. So I try not to pay attention to
it. But ever since I've been doing
porn, I can say the money has been a lot, a lot more, a lot
higher. Because when I was only doing
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only fans before I actually did porn scenes, I was only making
like some play cash really. Nothing much that I could live
off of. But that's just my experience
because that was just with me throwing pictures up on only
fans. And I still only throw up
pictures on only fans. I don't really post videos on
only fans. So wait.
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So well, I'm about to say, yeah,I'm trying to figure I want to
go with it. I was just looking at your page
again. Yes, I was looking at the booty
people. How many of them off the stream
of seeing your porn or they mademention of it?
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A lot of people are very shy about telling me those things,
but I've noticed. I've noticed a lot of the times
whenever I get people who book me for escort sessions, they're
like, oh, I saw that video whereyou visit West Philly dungeon
and I'm like, oh cool, awesome. And like there's been people
who's only seen videos of me with other people.
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Like for the example that I was just giving you, when that
specific person had only seen the video that Austin posted, he
didn't see the ones that I posted.
So he didn't even know I had my homepage of porn.
He just found me through West Philly Dungeon and then he found
my crisp page. And then that's how he booked
me. But then once he found out I had
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more porn, he was like, Oh my God, I have to buy these.
I have to view these because I've gotten some fans who have
found me on other other porn sites, like whether it was
someone posting me on their xhamster or their fat house or
whatever, you know? So ma'am, because also see what
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I love about girls that are companions and do porn is that
y'all understand about being sexy being a sex symbol because
in that world, especially in that side of the world, it's
about the pictures. So for you, because like I said,
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we we we about to go here real quick too, is the reason why I'm
saying all this. So let me land with it.
You like you said, you had body dysmorphia, which means you
don't have much confidence in the way your body looks and so
forth. But you're in the business where
one you in front of the camera so you don't hide nothing and a
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business where it's about being sexy.
You're considered to be sexy. You a sex symbol.
You got men that wants you willing to pay for you.
How do you come to grips with it?
Because it's kind of like, I know it's surreal for you
because when you want to, don't have confidence about your
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looks, but then you got motherfuckers sitting here all
in your face wanting to fuck you, pay to fuck you, pay to see
you and so forth. It's kind of like.
Does it help? Yeah, it helps a lot actually.
It's actually, it's actually a big part of my support system
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with my whole, my whole thing going on with my confidence.
Because the biggest thing with body dysmorphia specifically for
me is mainly me viewing picturesof myself or me looking in the
mirror. Because I noticed every single
time I get a photo shoot with a like a, with a really good
photographer, for example, madness photography, like
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chastity, she shoots for suicidegirls.
But every time she takes pictures of me, I look at them
and I'm like, Oh my God, I look so good in these and I actually
feel really good about myself. And The thing is, I don't get
that same effect when I'm takingmy own pictures.
Like it's harder with solo content, like solo picture, solo
videos. That is a big, it's a big hard
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thing for me to deal with. But when it's other people
recording me and when it's otherpeople taking pictures of me and
then I view it from their their perspective, it's it.
It's just, it sheds a bigger light on on it.
But yeah, it does definitely help.
I can definitely say I probably would be a lot less confident if
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I didn't do sex work as a whole.OK first of all, once again we
we noticed a reoccurring theme of name dropping.
How did you become a Suicide Girl?
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I had a girl that interview. Was I?
Was told that with dad had been a suicide girl.
She was trying to damage become a suicide Girl.
How did you become a Suicide Girl?
I got kicked off of Suicide Girls.
You got kicked off. Why you got kicked off?
Yeah, Long story short, I, I, I So it's hard to really explain
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because I had actually gone through kind of like a mental
crisis a couple years ago where I was actually streaming on
Suicide Girls for eighty hours at a time per week, and I was
actually over exercising myself on stream.
And then I took a break from Suicide Girls because of that.
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But then after that, there were some things that were happening,
like political views, drama on Twitter, that kind of shit.
I had responded in regards to something political that I won't
share here because it's too touchy, it's not worth it.
But Long story short a girl who who runs suicide girls I guess
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saw something on my page and then she decided oh I'm gonna
delete the her whole account. But to this day I still have not
gotten a reason from them to whymy account was deleted.
But I can tell you this, the only people who have me blocked
and from Suicide Girls are the 2girls who run Model Assist.
Even the founder of Suicide Girls herself doesn't have me
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blocked. Which tells me that it was kind
of like a petty drama type kind of thing because there's girls
running that site nowadays who haven't even been on the site in
the early days. Like they've been on the site
only since the early 2000 twenties when that site has been
around since 2001. So yeah, that's, but like I
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said, I still haven't gotten a pure reason.
That's just my guess. My guess is that they have
strict political views. And if you say anything positive
about Donald Trump at all, they're like, Nope, we're going
to delete your account. Even if it's something true or
like, it doesn't matter. It it you know.
It like this to me, business is business.
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Who you choose to vote for, that's you.
Yeah, I look at it so but but there's the fact that you was a
suicide girl and once again, y'all see a theme here, right?
(40:06):
Say what? I was only a hopeful on Suicide
Girls. I don't give a damn it it.
You had to be a Suicide Girl to get kicked off Suicide Girl.
They can't kick. But no.
But that's crazy though, because.
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I'm hopeful. No, it's, it's the old and these
two things. You don't talk about religion
or, or politics, you know, period.
Like I said, I, I like I tell anybody because like I said, who
you vote for shouldn't be tell Taylor whether I make money with
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you or not or anything of that nature, because there's such
thing called free speech regardless.
And part of that is. Yeah, and honestly, I, I won't.
I won't, yeah, and I won't say who I voted for, but it but I'm
going to say this. I really don't give a fuck who
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voted for who. I'm if I still find you.
Attractive. I kind of just said it when you
out say anything whoever. Hey man, wait, what?
You kind of said it without saying it.
We we know who she voted for. Hey, no, I I actually didn't
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vote no. That's a too touchy for me.
I'm also, I'm also Gen. Z, so I don't believe in that.
I'm educated enough to know about stuff or complain about
stuff. But I do pay taxes and that's a
bitch. Yeah.
(41:57):
There's only I do agree with them Yeah yeah yeah get rid of
hit come taxi but we but there'sanother conversation for another
day out this piece that they getthere for my Thursday episodes
when I'm by myself when I have those conversations.
But no but no but but to me I think when it comes to no I say
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it it's something that just shouldn't be in porn.
I'm sorry, it's pictures of modeling, you know, it's it's
because to me it's if it's my personal page, I have the right
to say what I want to say, do what I want to do to a certain
extent, just as long as he's notoutlandish or anything of that
nature, you know, pretty and I'msorry, it's like beliefs or
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beliefs, but anyway, because I don't want to dry up the pussy
or make the Dicks go limp. So so now.
Because of, let's say, the companion and your brand, how
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much no one talks about the sacrifice that people got to
make in their personal sex life and how they had to move
personally. How much of A judgement has it
been and it when it comes to chasing this industry, the
shoots and so forth, that's because of testing and so and
all that. Well, you so you're basically
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asking me about the sacrifices and the adjustments, right?
Yeah. 'Cause I have short term memory.
I'm sorry, I'm just making sure that I'm understanding the
question properly. But if I really do think about
it, the biggest sacrifice back when I first was getting into
porn was probably my romantic relationship at the time.
(43:54):
Because I was in a relationship,a committed relationship with a
man who he not only took care ofme, but he also was there for
me, for my mental support systemas well.
But when I wanted to do porn, that was a big sacrifice I had
to make. Was him and I wanting different
things in the end? Because porn is actually part of
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who I am. So unfortunately I had to make a
decision whether or not to be truly happy and be myself or
kind of just force myself to be happy in a relationship, which
obviously that wasn't going to work.
So. But Long story short, I still am
friends with that guy to this day and we take each we take
(44:39):
care of each other's dogs and he's actually my emergency
contact if I got into a car accident or some shit.
But. Yeah, because that's a
crossroads. Because I actually been AI can
relate because I've been there. The girl or the career, you
know, how hard of a decision wasthat to make?
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I feel like, I feel like it was really, really hard to do.
But the same time I pushed myself to do it really fast
because I knew from the start that a lot of people would look
down upon me and probably cut meoff, which is what happened.
My family, half of my family disowned me.
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That's an even bigger sacrifice than the romantic relationship
actually was my family. But yeah, sorry, I'm losing
track of where I was going with that.
It's all good that we my fans love.
We go on tangents, baby, they love, we go on tangents.
So you know, we go off topic. They don't care.
(45:47):
They just love conversation. So no, but but see, that's the
thing. It's kind of like what's
interesting is you're young, right?
And I don't know her age. I'm not about to ask her age.
What have you? I was told very genuinely to ask
that. But you got in the game, of
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course, in 18 when you was 18. So for you, you had to develop
what most of these older Milfs and hot wives had to develop.
I don't care what people think of me, Gene.
So when did that hit? I will be honest, I'm still
(46:32):
working on that. I am still working on that
because I still go see my therapist and I still vent to
him about my mom and all the terrible shit she says about me.
And no matter how much I, how much I want to say it or not,
how much I want to say, oh, I don't give a fuck what she
thinks of me. I'm always gonna care what my
(46:54):
mom thinks of me. But I'm trying to feel and move
on from that. I'm, I'm trying to get to that
stage. Actually, I don't give a fuck
what anyone thinks of me becauseI'm at the point now where I
don't give a fuck about the general public's opinion.
However, is if I actually genuinely care about a person
and their opinion or if I look up to the person, then I will.
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I do care what they think and I will be affected.
Like I can give a prime example right now.
I can say if my best friend Violet Vixen all of a sudden
didn't like me anymore, I would care because she's my friend,
you know? So it's only people I care about
that I do do give a fuck what they think of me.
But I'm getting to the point nowwhere if it's something severely
(47:39):
negative and everything, I have to fight through that.
I'm actually making progress right now with not giving a fuck
what my my Catholic family thinks of me because it's my
Jewish side of my family. That that explains every goddamn
thing what you just said. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
(48:00):
I know how I feel about when it comes to Catholics and all that
good stuff. So sorry it cut out.
What did you say? The smokers know how I feel
about when it comes to Catholicsand Catholic Church and beliefs.
Oh no, you're frozen. You know, frozen, then my back.
Oh, you were. You were frozen.
(48:21):
Now you're not. OK, yeah, no, they, they they
didn't know how I feel about religion and all that bullshit.
So but, but no, but that it likeI said before, because at first
that was I was worried about. But my Mama, she eased my mind
because she told me it ain't what I wanted for you, but if it
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makes you happy, go do it. And I always live by this.
And y'all know what Mama MozillaLucas said to me on that day?
Never feel shame for what you got to do to feed your family
(49:03):
because everybody ain't going tobe president.
Everybody ain't going to be somebody got to do the job that
we do. So, and what's wrong with a
woman making money off of her body, off of her sex appeal, off
of her sexiness? And she wants it.
She wants to, you know, period. Because I'm, I'm sorry it it
(49:30):
takes work to make money being sexy.
True. Oh my goodness, so people, I
don't have this gorgeous, sexy, I do mean sexy lady up here for
hours. So you know I got the acts of
the $1,000,000 question. Angelina Elizabeth, can I call
(49:51):
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(51:42):
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e-mail, so. There you go, people.
So what did you smoke over? What did you learn?
Well, there's two sides to everycoin.
You had to decide where people not bothered by what you do.
(52:08):
You had to decide what people are bothered by, what you do,
and you have to deal with that. People don't realize that porn
stars is a lot that we have to fight through.
Not only the disapproval of people that might be in our
families and our friends, but also how we think of ourselves.
(52:30):
Not everybody is confident in their body.
Not everybody's confident in their sexuality, you know,
period. Sometimes you have to develop
that and believe it or not, porndoes help with that.
It's nothing more confident for a woman who that's confident her
looks than a dude sitting here spending two, $300 to look at
her, to touch her, to be around her.
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See, that's what the powers thatbe, the religious thumpers and
all that, don't want you to see or understand.
I always told you religion teaches us to be what's what I'm
looking for is sexually suppressed and that's not real
(53:15):
life. God would never made sex
pleasurable if it wasn't meant for us to be pleasured, you feel
me? And on top of that, even more
so, something else for you to learn is that along with having
to get past all the negative bullshit, the work that goes
(53:38):
behind it, the time we got to put into it, and also
willingness to expand our brand beyond just shooting content.
See, we can sit here and talk about escorting companions and
all that good shit that you wantto.
That's part of the course of being a porn star.
(53:59):
Because be honest, the fans are not there for autographs or just
the autographs. Doesn't Beyoncé was in a Triple
X video? Some of them fans we wanted to
get fucked, want to fuck her just as much as they want to
hear her sing. It's part of what we are and
what we do. Hell, I didn't got paid to be a
(54:20):
bull to a cup couple numerous times.
I didn't want to talk about my man.
Treadway shouts out to him. The point being is there's so
many ways to make money in this industry, why not try some of
them? You don't know what you might
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like and you don't know what youmight be good at.
That's why I love these biggies because it allows say it with me
people, the grace for sexual discovery.
We are allowed to be way more sensual, open and free than
anybody on this earth because that's part of our job.
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We are shy example what it lookslike to be free.
Now, granted gives this some of my brothers and sisters dad took
their lives in the past. What have I did that, but
understand that that's a small percentage.
It's a bigger percentage that enjoy doing this business, love
doing this business, love being in this business and thrive in
(55:24):
this business. And that's why I do this podcast
so y'all can see that side of it.
Some tired of everyone giving the dark side, but they'll never
talk about the positive side of it.
So you know how we end these things all day, every day,
right? Life is a learning experience.
(55:46):
What's the point of the experience if you haven't learnt
anything? Smoke this, oh this.
Elizabeth, Lizabeth, get them back.
See you guys, it was really nicechatting.
And.
And we are live. How you doing this wonderful
Saturday night? Good.
How are you? I'm doing fine.
Of course the pictures don't do your dresses.
You are so sexy something. Thank you.
I was checking out your page andeverything and yes, I think
where, where did you go to the Chicago Exotica?
(00:25):
Yes, I did. I had a booth there.
It was booth 8:30. Oh, you had a booth?
Yes. Oh, tell us.
OK, Tell us about your experience in Exotica Chicago.
Well, Exotica was a little bit different from my first booth in
New Jersey because I did have myown booth in New Jersey first.
But Chicago was fun. I did sell a little bit more
(00:47):
pictures than I did in New Jersey.
And also, unfortunately, the person who I had helping me
actually ditched me the very last minute, but I still ended
up having a good time anyway. I'm not going to let him ruin my
whole week, but you know. So it so how does it feel to
have a booth? You know what I'm saying?
(01:08):
Because because I've talked about it before on the show that
to to keep it. How can I put this?
You get looked at differently when you have a booth versus
you're sitting as on this booth.So for you, like how do you feel
to have your own booth versus you ate somebody's booth and the
(01:29):
work behind having thus booth? Because, you see, I haven't
heard the stories. Can you repeat the last part of
the question? Because you.
Did that also the work behind having your own booth?
Because it's a lot of work. Yeah, it is definitely a lot of
work, but I can definitely say Ifeel like I enjoyed a lot more
(01:50):
than I would being sponsored by someone.
Because a lot of the times when I hear other companies doing
booths, they usually do shared time with the models instead of
having a model there all three days in a row.
And whenever I have a booth, I like being all there all three
days in a row to sign for my fans.
And how I feel, because you say you had a booth in New Jersey.
(02:13):
How do you feel? But I'm pretty sure with
Chicago, you went to Chicago, you had more fans that came up.
So how do you feel to it? To me, I look at it like when
you these conventions, it kind of gives you a parameter of how
far your reach is getting. So with this convention and you
having a booth, how much did yousee?
(02:34):
How much your reach has grown? So far, only a little bit.
I can definitely say probably around my so my followers
actually fluctuate up and down all the time.
I think it's because there's bots on Twitter and everything
like that. But from last time I from the
convention, last time I'm prettysure I went up almost like 500
(02:55):
followers or something like thatbecause I was around 8.6 K
followers now or not. 8.69 point6K and now I'm almost at 10K.
So I'm at 9.9 now. I'm actually squeezing my way up
there to 10K. Oh.
My goodness. So shoot.
So we're going to begin like this for you.
(03:18):
What's the one thing that made you glad that you got into this
business? Definitely the bigger, like the
much more stability I've had with the job because when COVID
happened, I was actually weldingfull time and the pay wasn't the
problem. It was more so the food prices
(03:38):
going up and everything and all the bills going up and then my
pay wouldn't, my pay wasn't going up with that.
So when I started doing sex work, I started having a lot
more flexibility in my time. That being said, I can also make
money and also prioritize my health and I can go to my
doctor's appointments and all this and that.
So that's like the biggest thingI can definitely say is when I
(04:03):
get out of the industry. Yeah, because people don't
realize how much it does empowerladies, bring confidence and
also help them be able to creategenerational wealth and
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She is going to definitely be one that you're going to
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people actually get boots? You feel me?
So I'm going to shut up and let this sexy Paul introduce
(06:16):
herself. Tell who you are, baby.
Hey so I'm Angelina Elizabeth and I'm alternative model and
also fetish model, a companion and an amateur Cam girl.
Oh my. Goodness.
Also in the in the process of doing dance classes.
Oh, so your brand is very expensive.
(06:36):
She's a porn star companion. She she all ended in a bag of
chips. So let's go.
Let's go. So let's you say it's round the
pandemic. He was aware he was welded.
What made you decide to go with sex work?
Many things actually. Well, the first thing I can
definitely think that I always say 1st is my, my peers, my
(06:58):
friends, because my friends weredoing sex work and specifically
a couple that I had met in my first well, job when I was 18
years old. They were a polyamorous couple
and the woman in that couple, she was doing she's doing
camming. And I didn't know what camming
was at that point, but I the more I learned about it, the
more intrigued I was. So Long story short I started
(07:19):
camming at 18 and then followingthe years later my friends also
showed me sites like Sexy jobs which was where I got my first
porn gigs and also sites like only fans and fans Lee as well.
However I don't use fans Lee. I tried that for a little bit
but I didn't like it so I have only fans in many of it.
So you say you first started with the webcam and what have
(07:42):
you. So for you, how was it when you
first started with webcam and tell us about that experience.
That was, it was very frightening, but at the same
time very exciting because I have never gotten that type of
attention from anybody before. Because just being online, just
knowing I'm live in front of strangers, like with no, like
(08:02):
with barely any clothes on, it was just an exciting feeling for
me. It it gave me a sense of like
adrenaline, if you know what I mean.
Oh yeah, I can't believe it and everything.
And plus on top of that, once again, empowering knowing that
men find you sexy and look at you like you're a sex symbol.
How? How was that to be adjustment?
(08:26):
It definitely took me some time because with how shy and
submissive I can be off camera, like off camera, especially at
first, I don't know. I don't know how to explain it.
No, because you you shy what have you, because a lot of times
especially like because especially when you being 18,
(08:49):
you may not been like the popular girl in high school.
The girl and all the guys. Oh God no, no, a lot of I was
bullied by a lot of girls actually.
Nanny they mad and shit 'cause their boyfriends jerk off to
her. Probably, yeah.
The best for me Remember you bullied me when your husband
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jerk off to me, he told me. Honestly though, now that I'm
older I've heard more backlash from my parents and my parents
friends than people I was in high school with.
More like I ruined porn for my parents and all their friends.
So, Debbie, I can't watch it there.
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Jill, block me please. I can't like.
The thing is though, I'd lose a lot of my fan base if I start
Geo. Block.
So I can't Geo block anymore. I did that at first, but keeping
away from Pennsylvania, New Jersey, etcetera, I just can't.
That's where my most of my fan base.
Is Oh yeah, for sure, because because because normally like
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just right down South, we love them thick and she thick people.
Trust me, we you know, one day we're going to get pretty small.
We should show that off. But anyway, so so you went from
webcamming then you said OK, howmany years was it between you
doing the webcam and and you going to sexy job finding
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finding porn work? I'm I have to count the years
19/20/21 probably like 3 or 4 years about I might be a little
off. He was camping the whole time.
He was camping the whole time inbetween these.
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Not camping consistently. There was a big chunk of time
where I wasn't on chatter bit atall and I was only doing Only
Fans because when I was on only Fans I was mainly model, just
doing mainly modeling work for Suicide Girls as well.
And then I was doing my full time well job at the time, so
that's really all I had time for.
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I didn't have time for any porn jobs until I got a little older
and then I wasn't in welding full time anymore where I had
more flexibility, more time, my schedule to do porn shoots.
So so when you let's talk about that first porn shoot, you went
on sexy jobs and tell us about the first gig that you had.
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Well, I always like to technically think that my first
real gig was with West Philly Dungeon.
However, if I say that that thenI'm lying because my first ever
shoot was with adult selected adult models.
However, it was a very, very poor experience so I don't like
to usually talk about it, but I will talk about it now because
yeah, I, I, I'm comfortable doing so.
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But Long story short, I got ripped off because it was a porn
shoot, a boy girl for only $500.And there was also rimming
involved. And I did eat a guy's ass.
And that was the only time I atea guy's ass.
And I still haven't to this day because no one deserves my mouth
on their asshole unless they're worthy.
And I've still yet to find any man worthy of my mouth on their
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asshole. Oh my God, it it means she
wouldn't like you if she eats your ass.
But she said that what she basically saying you're probably
going to be a husband. So but but with the dungeon 1.
So was that BDSM scene or was that boy girl scene?
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What type of scene was it? Yeah, it was a little bit BDSM
as well as boy girl, because I can definitely say anyone who's
seen Austin Michaels in his pornshoots, you know, he's a little
rough. He loves the spanky Spanx and
the the chokey chokes and stuff like that.
But we used his cross, we used his sex swing.
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We were on his bed. We were doing all types of
sorts. Like I've done a couple scenes
with him after that, but my first ever scene with him that's
exclusively on his page was like, it was it, It was like a
real, I feel like that was my first real porn scene because
not only it was real rough sex, but it was actually like really
professionally done, like, you know what I mean?
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Because we had a camera person as well.
So now let's paint the picture with that because you're not
only just doing a boy girl thing, you're doing a BDSM
submissive probably. Damn they want to say select
training video for the most part.
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I mean, I guess so it's just hard, like since I'm such a
newbie, it's hard for me to kindof correctly categorize stuff.
Like it's hard for me to say, oh, this is definitely BDSM
because some of this stuff is just so natural to me and normal
to me that I don't really think of it as like taboo or like.
I'm not but but but what I'm saying is it's you're doing this
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on camera. So it's like you walking in,
it's a sick you're on camera. It's your first time shooting
this. And it ain't just simply you
just fucking it's, you know, BDSM.
So the question that I asked himis what some of the things they
did to help you feel comfortableon set and and stuff like that.
Was you nervous? You know, how was it filming it?
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How was it after, you know, paint the picture?
Well, specifically with Austin, it was such a great experience
because off camera our during our behind the scenes moments,
we're definitely talking, getting to know one another and
we also talk about common interests and also maybe some
experiences they might have had in the industry and stuff like
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that. But specifically me, I went
there and I told them how my first experience went with a
select adult models and how I felt unsafe afterwards because I
didn't, I was in New York for that shoot, so I didn't know
where I was. But on the other hand, with
Austin, not only I knew where hewas, but also they were very
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calming to me. Like they, they know how to
provide aftercare and beforecareif I'm terminal.
Like if that's correct terminology for it.
No, no, for that type thing you got to provide aftercare because
that's it's intense. I don't know enough of them to
know people. And for you, how often do you
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feel to keep up with your content?
Because I'm pretty sure you do solo and so forth, what have
you. So what do you shoot for your
content and how often do you shoot to keep up with it?
Well I haven't had anything downand consistent yet because this
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past year and a half has been like the first year I've done
porn but I haven't done much solo stuff because I do struggle
with body dysmorphia. That is something I'm working
working towards right now. Also I'm on a wake weight loss
journey right now because I almost died of sepsis and gained
a lot of weight so that plays into why I don't do solo.
But on the other hand, my other videos are normally they're
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natural like they naturally comeand go is if I find someone I
actually want to work with and Ifeel like I have chemistry with
them. And then because I'm very picky
with my trade scenes, I don't I don't work with just anybody.
I don't want to just like fuck on camera and like, call it a
day, you know, because I am pickier with my content.
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But at the same time, I don't watch my content because I know
I'm gonna nitpick my little things about my myself.
So I let whoever, whoever's editing the video post the
video. But yeah, I, I consistent, it's
not consistent enough for me to say, oh, it's once a month, so
and so. But every so often I, I upload
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new videos. Like I can definitely say I have
a bunch of upload or uploads in process now with creators that I
had worked with in Las Vegas andalso this past recent Exotica.
So that's just kind of random and all over the place at the
moment. But once I get more, once I get
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a steady schedule down more thanI'll probably say, Oh yeah, I'll
upload a new video this month and this month and so on so
forth. I hope that answers your
question. Oh, yeah, that's my question.
So now you've been saying you'vebeen doing this for a year or
so. How far are you want to take
this, take it to this in this business?
Um, well, honestly, I did think about that and part of me has
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actually accepted the fact that I'm going to be more low stream
than mainstream because I am on the curvier side and I'm also on
the alternative side because I do have tattoos.
So that kind of weighs down my options a little bit as far as
porn goes. But I just want to live my life.
I love my lifestyle the way it is.
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I really love my friends. I love the things I do.
I love my hobbies. I love my animals.
You know, I want to pay my billsand be happy.
And that's what I've been doing with sex work in general lately.
And that just that doesn't even just go for porn.
It goes for my other work as well, like escorting and camming
and all that. Like as long as all the bills
get paid and I'm happy at the end of the day and I still the
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lifestyle I want, you know, thenI'm happy.
I don't have to be a mega superstar, but I am still gonna
be professional and still work towards little goals here and
there because I do take it one day at a time, you know?
Hey, I'm gonna tell you what's funny.
You can tell that she's a rookiebecause she she don't know, do
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she? People she say, 'cause I'm on
the chunkiest, first of all, I'mgoing to say it's again, BBW
make the most money in this business.
Stop playing with her, stop playing with him and thickness
make the most money in this business.
You. You thick.
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And she's thick. You should.
You have a nice shape, Nice thickness, Noble.
Trust me, you. Thank you.
You'd actually be surprised to hear there's been about four or
five different companies that have rejected me or have taken
back offers because they say I'mtoo curvy or too big for them.
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Where the pink would see. How can I put this?
In your situation you would probably fall more on the BBW
side. Well, actually I've been told by
multiple people and that's not my category.
And personally I don't, I don't,I yeah, I honestly don't.
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I don't categorize myself in BBWbecause I also, that also goes
with how I believe my morals andstuff because I believe that
there is skinny privilege in this industry.
Yeah, and when they're skinny, skinny privilege and everything
like that. My what I think is that BBWS
already have limited options as it is.
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So I, me not being an actual BBWI, want the real BBW to
receive that work. I don't want to receive BBW work
when I'm not actually BBW. See, now here's the thing.
This way it comes down to, and Itell girls this, it's not about
at first. It might be by type, whatever,
whatever. If you went, these companies
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don't fuck with you until you white hot.
And what I mean by that is you're hot.
That means that it's your money,you're bankable.
And This is why I tell any female the industry, especially
if you're trying to get to the companies, keep this in mind.
They pay attention to who you fuck on that camera.
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I'm not talking about look. No, I'm not talking about look.
It's if you fucking the dudes a day booking it automatically
puts you on their radar because they booked these guys.
That's why I tell females if youtake the biggest series you want
to work with established talent.The reason for it is that one,
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they're more known, thus they have a fan base, a fan base a
little bit more vast, which you could tap into.
Two, if you're trying to get thepaid work, If they're getting
paid work or they do paid work, guess where they find their
girls in? Oh, I saw you shoot this girl
named Angelina Elizabeth. How was she on say?
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OK, how was the sales of Oh, youbringing it back?
She makes money. Well, she'd be interested in
working for us. That how it works.
You feel me. So when I tell females it's you
want to try to fuck with the bigboys if you can, you feel me.
You already on the path of doingthat anyway.
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And hell, she got a Boo, but shehad his eye.
So she's around him and which inturn you having the booth put
dudes on the right put dudes putyou on the radar because not
everybody has a booth. I keep telling you about it's a
different they look at you differently when you got a
booth. They're like, oh, oh, she take
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this very seriously, you know, period.
And so excuse me. So trust me, you being thick,
it's tell you it's it's it's actually a good thing, babe, you
know, period, trust, believe me.And you being an alt alt model,
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there's girls that they play both sides effects, you know,
and person. Nothing wrong with being an old
model because the PDSM niche is way more lucrative, way more
money. I'm just saying so so for you.
So now we about to have a littlebit of fun with some questions,
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shall we? So do we do anal?
I'm sorry. Repeat that.
Do you do anal? Oh yeah, I do anal when it's
told in advance and also if it'sa paid scene because prep is
just so hard on my body to the point where I'm like it has to
be worth it in order for me to do the prep.
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So is it, is it something that you into or is just more of AI
do it for a business transaction?
I am into it, but it depends on the person.
I can definitely say in some of the anal scenes I've done, I
have been in a little bit of discomfort or pain at first when
it first gets inserted. But once it kind of works its
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way in there back and forth and I'm comfortable, then I'm
actually very much into it. Like my very first, my very
first anal scene was with Private Society and it was with
John Long. And I can definitely say it was
very comfortable. I had a great time and I I had
no idea. Time out, time out.
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Look, I understand she had body dysmorphia, but see, she she she
ain't found her in her her innersex her her inner you know what
what we call sex symbol. She just dropped private society
just casually. Yeah, you know, yeah, if the
anal scene was with private society, Like, really, really
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woman. I did DP with them too actually.
I can't you, you, you know, songlook, I understand you want to
be humble. You know, for the smokers.
You, you ain't got to be humble on my podcast, Stop playing
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people. My fans know who's private
society is. They just don't shoot anybody,
people. And special thanks to Tadpole,
because he's the one who got me to private society.
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So, so, so, so it's hard to say.The next question I'm about to
ask you. You into gangbangs?
Oh yeah, I love gangbangs. Most of my gangbangs were not
filmed, but I do want to do morefilmed ones.
Yes. Hold on a minute.
She name dropped Tadpole. Why is she?
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Why is she faking the fuck on mygoddamn show, people?
You do know my fans know these people, right?
I didn't interview Tadpole. We know his pedigree.
He, he, he. You don't work with someone that
rebel rider shoot. Yeah, she fluffed for my game
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day. We'll get work.
She just she just named two big names.
Continue. Oh yeah, I was going to say
yeah. Speaking of Tadpole, yeah, I did
a gang bang for them. However, I wasn't put to my
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fullest potential, I will say that.
However, it was really fun and Rebel Rider did it, so there's
that. And how many?
How many people see the game bang?
Only five guys for that one. So what is it about a gangbang
that getting pussy wet? Just the fact that there's
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multiple hands on me at once, I don't know.
I love all that attention at once.
There's just something about it.I don't know how to explain it.
And of course she asked the other question.
She she have done ADP and have you done ADV double badge?
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Not yet. I will eventually, but not yet.
Oh my God, So they say. Yeah, I'm trying to think speak
to the orgasm that you get with ADP.
Speak of the what? Orgasm that you get from ADP?
That is very, very hard to explain because I haven't had
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many of those. I've only had probably like,
yeah, I've only ever yeah, but Itook, come to think of it, the
only time I've ever gotten DP was like, I did it recently with
six and deem and then the private society one.
I I don't even know if I actually orgasmed or not, but
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it's a definite different feeling from when I'm just
getting fucked in the pussy. You know, it's it's a really
good feeling. Like I've definitely came with
toys in both holes before too. And that's a different type of
orgasm. But I need to kind of get more
DP in or even more DP sessions if they're not scenes, you know,
to just kind of feel and get to know the orgasms more.
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Because, like, it's been a little too long now to think, to
remember. People let me see him damn
orgasm. That what he says to me.
Oh man, I mean, are you one to make the the Are you one in your
personal life? Is it hard to make you orgasm?
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Oh yeah, definitely. I usually I hardly ever orgasm,
if I do it's usually if I have some like it has to be something
in my pussy with clit stimulation at the same time.
But it's very very very difficult.
Like I know for a fact too I've only been able to squirt like 2
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times that I can remember. Once by the by a girl when I was
18 years old and then when I dida shoot with Wagga bang he
fucking he blew my mind. He made me squirt all over the
place. I don't even know how I did how
I did that because. And we a squirter, and we squirt
too. I.
Didn't I? Didn't know I was a.
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Come on, we're getting. Cut.
Did it just glitch out for you too?
Yeah, it grish out for a second.Yeah, so you know, you say you
didn't know you. OK, what did you last hear me
say? You didn't know you was a
squirter. Yeah, that's the thing.
Because nobody ever makes me squirt.
And Wang a Bang suddenly did like when during our scene, he
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was the only person who's like, ever made me squirt on camera.
And then once when I was 18. But I'm also really dehydrated
all the time. Was was he?
If you plan to squirt, you got to drink a lot of water anyway
if we especially plan to do a scene with it.
So I mean, do you squirt often or the the?
Scene that I was talking about that wasn't planned.
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I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off.
No, it's all good. And how bad would you squirt?
How? I mean how, how do you squirt?
How is he drizzle is sprints. Sprints.
It was a spritz all over the place, but like I said, nobody
ever makes me do that. I still to this day I don't know
how he did it. I don't even think he ever
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uploaded that video actually. I would have been, I would have
uploaded that with a quickness. First time made a girl squirt.
Oh God, that did. That'd be the name of it.
First time squirt. Oh my God.
So wait, so for you now that youmade mention of the fact that
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you know your companion, what have you and everything, So what
made you decide to get to that side of the business?
I'm sorry, get to what side of the business?
The companion side. Oh, Oh yeah.
So the companion side. So originally I was very much
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against going to do or doing that just because I was having a
lot of safety concerns. But once I learned more about it
and learned how you can be more assertive with like screening
and like deposits and stuff likethat, then I was like, OK, if
someone's actually serious aboutthis, this might turn into a
good deal. But my first couple escort
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sessions went really well. And then after that I was like,
fuck it, I'll make a tryst account.
So I've had many, I haven't had many bad experiences with
escorting. I've only had maybe like one or
two awkward, awkward encounters,but that's about it because I'm
really good with my screening. So it was mainly my friends got
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me into that. So now.
Y'all know how we talked about this, the old school mentality,
the girls that came into business, they only did porn to
boost the escorting. So for you, how much has the
traffic picked up since you started since you've been doing
porn? I feel like I don't really pay
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like The thing is, is like I don't pay attention to the
traffic as much as I would like to because sometimes if I pay
too much attention to it, then I'll get a little bit fixated on
it. So I try not to pay attention to
it. But ever since I've been doing
porn, I can say the money has been a lot, a lot more, a lot
higher. Because when I was only doing
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only fans before I actually did porn scenes, I was only making
like some play cash really. Nothing much that I could live
off of. But that's just my experience
because that was just with me throwing pictures up on only
fans. And I still only throw up
pictures on only fans. I don't really post videos on
only fans. So wait.
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So well, I'm about to say, yeah,I'm trying to figure I want to
go with it. I was just looking at your page
again. Yes, I was looking at the booty
people. How many of them off the stream
of seeing your porn or they mademention of it?
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A lot of people are very shy about telling me those things,
but I've noticed. I've noticed a lot of the times
whenever I get people who book me for escort sessions, they're
like, oh, I saw that video whereyou visit West Philly dungeon
and I'm like, oh cool, awesome. And like there's been people
who's only seen videos of me with other people.
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Like for the example that I was just giving you, when that
specific person had only seen the video that Austin posted, he
didn't see the ones that I posted.
So he didn't even know I had my homepage of porn.
He just found me through West Philly Dungeon and then he found
my crisp page. And then that's how he booked
me. But then once he found out I had
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more porn, he was like, Oh my God, I have to buy these.
I have to view these because I've gotten some fans who have
found me on other other porn sites, like whether it was
someone posting me on their xhamster or their fat house or
whatever, you know? So ma'am, because also see what
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I love about girls that are companions and do porn is that
y'all understand about being sexy being a sex symbol because
in that world, especially in that side of the world, it's
about the pictures. So for you, because like I said,
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we we we about to go here real quick too, is the reason why I'm
saying all this. So let me land with it.
You like you said, you had body dysmorphia, which means you
don't have much confidence in the way your body looks and so
forth. But you're in the business where
one you in front of the camera so you don't hide nothing and a
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business where it's about being sexy.
You're considered to be sexy. You a sex symbol.
You got men that wants you willing to pay for you.
How do you come to grips with it?
Because it's kind of like, I know it's surreal for you
because when you want to, don't have confidence about your
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looks, but then you got motherfuckers sitting here all
in your face wanting to fuck you, pay to fuck you, pay to see
you and so forth. It's kind of like.
Does it help? Yeah, it helps a lot actually.
It's actually, it's actually a big part of my support system
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with my whole, my whole thing going on with my confidence.
Because the biggest thing with body dysmorphia specifically for
me is mainly me viewing picturesof myself or me looking in the
mirror. Because I noticed every single
time I get a photo shoot with a like a, with a really good
photographer, for example, madness photography, like
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chastity, she shoots for suicidegirls.
But every time she takes pictures of me, I look at them
and I'm like, Oh my God, I look so good in these and I actually
feel really good about myself. And The thing is, I don't get
that same effect when I'm takingmy own pictures.
Like it's harder with solo content, like solo picture, solo
videos. That is a big, it's a big hard
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thing for me to deal with. But when it's other people
recording me and when it's otherpeople taking pictures of me and
then I view it from their their perspective, it's it.
It's just, it sheds a bigger light on on it.
But yeah, it does definitely help.
I can definitely say I probably would be a lot less confident if
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I didn't do sex work as a whole.OK first of all, once again we
we noticed a reoccurring theme of name dropping.
How did you become a Suicide Girl?
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I had a girl that interview. Was I?
Was told that with dad had been a suicide girl.
She was trying to damage become a suicide Girl.
How did you become a Suicide Girl?
I got kicked off of Suicide Girls.
You got kicked off. Why you got kicked off?
Yeah, Long story short, I, I, I So it's hard to really explain
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because I had actually gone through kind of like a mental
crisis a couple years ago where I was actually streaming on
Suicide Girls for eighty hours at a time per week, and I was
actually over exercising myself on stream.
And then I took a break from Suicide Girls because of that.
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But then after that, there were some things that were happening,
like political views, drama on Twitter, that kind of shit.
I had responded in regards to something political that I won't
share here because it's too touchy, it's not worth it.
But Long story short a girl who who runs suicide girls I guess
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saw something on my page and then she decided oh I'm gonna
delete the her whole account. But to this day I still have not
gotten a reason from them to whymy account was deleted.
But I can tell you this, the only people who have me blocked
and from Suicide Girls are the 2girls who run Model Assist.
Even the founder of Suicide Girls herself doesn't have me
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blocked. Which tells me that it was kind
of like a petty drama type kind of thing because there's girls
running that site nowadays who haven't even been on the site in
the early days. Like they've been on the site
only since the early 2000 twenties when that site has been
around since 2001. So yeah, that's, but like I
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said, I still haven't gotten a pure reason.
That's just my guess. My guess is that they have
strict political views. And if you say anything positive
about Donald Trump at all, they're like, Nope, we're going
to delete your account. Even if it's something true or
like, it doesn't matter. It it you know.
It like this to me, business is business.
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Who you choose to vote for, that's you.
Yeah, I look at it so but but there's the fact that you was a
suicide girl and once again, y'all see a theme here, right?
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Say what? I was only a hopeful on Suicide
Girls. I don't give a damn it it.
You had to be a Suicide Girl to get kicked off Suicide Girl.
They can't kick. But no.
But that's crazy though, because.
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I'm hopeful. No, it's, it's the old and these
two things. You don't talk about religion
or, or politics, you know, period.
Like I said, I, I like I tell anybody because like I said, who
you vote for shouldn't be tell Taylor whether I make money with
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you or not or anything of that nature, because there's such
thing called free speech regardless.
And part of that is. Yeah, and honestly, I, I won't.
I won't, yeah, and I won't say who I voted for, but it but I'm
going to say this. I really don't give a fuck who
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voted for who. I'm if I still find you.
Attractive. I kind of just said it when you
out say anything whoever. Hey man, wait, what?
You kind of said it without saying it.
We we know who she voted for. Hey, no, I I actually didn't
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vote no. That's a too touchy for me.
I'm also, I'm also Gen. Z, so I don't believe in that.
I'm educated enough to know about stuff or complain about
stuff. But I do pay taxes and that's a
bitch. Yeah.
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There's only I do agree with them Yeah yeah yeah get rid of
hit come taxi but we but there'sanother conversation for another
day out this piece that they getthere for my Thursday episodes
when I'm by myself when I have those conversations.
But no but no but but to me I think when it comes to no I say
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it it's something that just shouldn't be in porn.
I'm sorry, it's pictures of modeling, you know, it's it's
because to me it's if it's my personal page, I have the right
to say what I want to say, do what I want to do to a certain
extent, just as long as he's notoutlandish or anything of that
nature, you know, pretty and I'msorry, it's like beliefs or
(42:47):
beliefs, but anyway, because I don't want to dry up the pussy
or make the Dicks go limp. So so now.
Because of, let's say, the companion and your brand, how
(43:08):
much no one talks about the sacrifice that people got to
make in their personal sex life and how they had to move
personally. How much of A judgement has it
been and it when it comes to chasing this industry, the
shoots and so forth, that's because of testing and so and
all that. Well, you so you're basically
(43:33):
asking me about the sacrifices and the adjustments, right?
Yeah. 'Cause I have short term memory.
I'm sorry, I'm just making sure that I'm understanding the
question properly. But if I really do think about
it, the biggest sacrifice back when I first was getting into
porn was probably my romantic relationship at the time.
(43:54):
Because I was in a relationship,a committed relationship with a
man who he not only took care ofme, but he also was there for
me, for my mental support systemas well.
But when I wanted to do porn, that was a big sacrifice I had
to make. Was him and I wanting different
things in the end? Because porn is actually part of
(44:17):
who I am. So unfortunately I had to make a
decision whether or not to be truly happy and be myself or
kind of just force myself to be happy in a relationship, which
obviously that wasn't going to work.
So. But Long story short, I still am
friends with that guy to this day and we take each we take
(44:39):
care of each other's dogs and he's actually my emergency
contact if I got into a car accident or some shit.
But. Yeah, because that's a
crossroads. Because I actually been AI can
relate because I've been there. The girl or the career, you
know, how hard of a decision wasthat to make?
(45:04):
I feel like, I feel like it was really, really hard to do.
But the same time I pushed myself to do it really fast
because I knew from the start that a lot of people would look
down upon me and probably cut meoff, which is what happened.
My family, half of my family disowned me.
(45:25):
That's an even bigger sacrifice than the romantic relationship
actually was my family. But yeah, sorry, I'm losing
track of where I was going with that.
It's all good that we my fans love.
We go on tangents, baby, they love, we go on tangents.
So you know, we go off topic. They don't care.
(45:47):
They just love conversation. So no, but but see, that's the
thing. It's kind of like what's
interesting is you're young, right?
And I don't know her age. I'm not about to ask her age.
What have you? I was told very genuinely to ask
that. But you got in the game, of
(46:12):
course, in 18 when you was 18. So for you, you had to develop
what most of these older Milfs and hot wives had to develop.
I don't care what people think of me, Gene.
So when did that hit? I will be honest, I'm still
(46:32):
working on that. I am still working on that
because I still go see my therapist and I still vent to
him about my mom and all the terrible shit she says about me.
And no matter how much I, how much I want to say it or not,
how much I want to say, oh, I don't give a fuck what she
thinks of me. I'm always gonna care what my
(46:54):
mom thinks of me. But I'm trying to feel and move
on from that. I'm, I'm trying to get to that
stage. Actually, I don't give a fuck
what anyone thinks of me becauseI'm at the point now where I
don't give a fuck about the general public's opinion.
However, is if I actually genuinely care about a person
and their opinion or if I look up to the person, then I will.
(47:16):
I do care what they think and I will be affected.
Like I can give a prime example right now.
I can say if my best friend Violet Vixen all of a sudden
didn't like me anymore, I would care because she's my friend,
you know? So it's only people I care about
that I do do give a fuck what they think of me.
But I'm getting to the point nowwhere if it's something severely
(47:39):
negative and everything, I have to fight through that.
I'm actually making progress right now with not giving a fuck
what my my Catholic family thinks of me because it's my
Jewish side of my family. That that explains every goddamn
thing what you just said. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
(48:00):
I know how I feel about when it comes to Catholics and all that
good stuff. So sorry it cut out.
What did you say? The smokers know how I feel
about when it comes to Catholicsand Catholic Church and beliefs.
Oh no, you're frozen. You know, frozen, then my back.
Oh, you were. You were frozen.
(48:21):
Now you're not. OK, yeah, no, they, they they
didn't know how I feel about religion and all that bullshit.
So but, but no, but that it likeI said before, because at first
that was I was worried about. But my Mama, she eased my mind
because she told me it ain't what I wanted for you, but if it
(48:42):
makes you happy, go do it. And I always live by this.
And y'all know what Mama MozillaLucas said to me on that day?
Never feel shame for what you got to do to feed your family
(49:03):
because everybody ain't going tobe president.
Everybody ain't going to be somebody got to do the job that
we do. So, and what's wrong with a
woman making money off of her body, off of her sex appeal, off
of her sexiness? And she wants it.
She wants to, you know, period. Because I'm, I'm sorry it it
(49:30):
takes work to make money being sexy.
True. Oh my goodness, so people, I
don't have this gorgeous, sexy, I do mean sexy lady up here for
hours. So you know I got the acts of
the $1,000,000 question. Angelina Elizabeth, can I call
(49:51):
you a smoke buddy? Sure, of course.
To say no more people, you know what that means She's coming
back. She's coming back to the smokers
lounge of course and I'm going to get her sexy ass to come to
the premium smoke room on loyal fans.
Y'all know what it is the risqueside of the smoke of the smokers
(50:13):
lounge talking about four premium podcast you would enjoy
plus special events and I even do live shows RX where followers
as well as premium smokers AKA subscribers can submit questions
for the ladies to answer. And you know the conversations
(50:33):
over there gets way more saucy and risque.
The tics come out, dildos might pop out, you don't know what
might pop off unless you subscribe.
And also you can check my workout because I give ladies to
work because you know big D's growing the sticks.
That's why they call it big country in the video store and
on Spotify. I got you over there as well as
(50:56):
I got had to smoke on it. Y'all know I talk my shit on
them episodes and savage smoke with me and some of the
industry's top male talent and producers talk that shit and
give you that real smoke about the industry from a male's
respected. So you have two ways to get the
smoke, whether it's premium, whether it's savage, either way,
(51:20):
come smoke with us now Miss Angelina Lisba.
Keep everybody where they can spend money on you and find you.
Yeah, so you can find me on allmylinks.com/angelina
Elizabeth and that's where you'll find all my links from
socials to platforms like many vids and Only fans and also
(51:42):
other places where you can contact me like Telegram and my
e-mail, so. There you go, people.
So what did you smoke over? What did you learn?
Well, there's two sides to everycoin.
You had to decide where people not bothered by what you do.
(52:08):
You had to decide what people are bothered by, what you do,
and you have to deal with that. People don't realize that porn
stars is a lot that we have to fight through.
Not only the disapproval of people that might be in our
families and our friends, but also how we think of ourselves.
(52:30):
Not everybody is confident in their body.
Not everybody's confident in their sexuality, you know,
period. Sometimes you have to develop
that and believe it or not, porndoes help with that.
It's nothing more confident for a woman who that's confident her
looks than a dude sitting here spending two, $300 to look at
her, to touch her, to be around her.
(52:54):
See, that's what the powers thatbe, the religious thumpers and
all that, don't want you to see or understand.
I always told you religion teaches us to be what's what I'm
looking for is sexually suppressed and that's not real
(53:15):
life. God would never made sex
pleasurable if it wasn't meant for us to be pleasured, you feel
me? And on top of that, even more
so, something else for you to learn is that along with having
to get past all the negative bullshit, the work that goes
(53:38):
behind it, the time we got to put into it, and also
willingness to expand our brand beyond just shooting content.
See, we can sit here and talk about escorting companions and
all that good shit that you wantto.
That's part of the course of being a porn star.
(53:59):
Because be honest, the fans are not there for autographs or just
the autographs. Doesn't Beyoncé was in a Triple
X video? Some of them fans we wanted to
get fucked, want to fuck her just as much as they want to
hear her sing. It's part of what we are and
what we do. Hell, I didn't got paid to be a
(54:20):
bull to a cup couple numerous times.
I didn't want to talk about my man.
Treadway shouts out to him. The point being is there's so
many ways to make money in this industry, why not try some of
them? You don't know what you might
(54:41):
like and you don't know what youmight be good at.
That's why I love these biggies because it allows say it with me
people, the grace for sexual discovery.
We are allowed to be way more sensual, open and free than
anybody on this earth because that's part of our job.
(55:04):
We are shy example what it lookslike to be free.
Now, granted gives this some of my brothers and sisters dad took
their lives in the past. What have I did that, but
understand that that's a small percentage.
It's a bigger percentage that enjoy doing this business, love
doing this business, love being in this business and thrive in
(55:24):
this business. And that's why I do this podcast
so y'all can see that side of it.
Some tired of everyone giving the dark side, but they'll never
talk about the positive side of it.
So you know how we end these things all day, every day,
right? Life is a learning experience.
(55:46):
What's the point of the experience if you haven't learnt
anything? Smoke this, oh this.
Elizabeth, Lizabeth, get them back.
See you guys, it was really nicechatting.
And.
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