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August 12, 2025 57 mins

This episode I talk with Marvellee. She is a hot GILF who started with webcamming and moved into porn. She discuss her starting after leaving a relationship and being broke. She talks about how the camming got her know then she met Will Bang and they started a business partnership for porn. She talks about her shoots and the type of porn she likes to shoot. We discuss her being behind the camera and in front of it. Plus we talk about Gangbangs , aanal sex and more.

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(00:05):
Express that and explore that isbecause of how dangerous and how
like harmful homophobia is within male communities right.
Like if you go out and kiss a guy, you might get fucking
jumped right? Like if you kiss a guy on the
street. Now, this isn't to say it's.
Yeah, because I know it gave youGod tell people when you go to

(00:26):
these conventions, it gives you confirmation of how tall you
have grown in your career. And also, I'm pretty sure you
had a bunch of the top towns that you haven't shot with, say,
we've seen your video. Yes, yes, I've had people who
come up who can make money off of it.
But see, you think about these. OK, let's just keep it 1 honey,

(00:47):
the girls nowadays don't give a fuck about the money they want
to go by. Yeah.
So so it's kind of like the girl, a lot of the girl that
don't show their face with the feet and ain't because they make
more money with the feet back towhere you're not doing the
content housing, you're shootingcontent, but you're not shooting
with everybody got their Mama now just kind of the circle and

(01:11):
closed up a little bit to make yourself.
So how you enjoying your Saturday darling?
I'm having a great night, how are you?
I'm I'm doing fine, just it's Saturday.

(01:32):
I spent my Saturday. I spent my day at the Rock and
Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland. So I'm.
Going to tell you what's funny because while I was looking at I
was just thinking because I was just thinking you know y'all,
y'all know I love come up with scenes while I see her like old,
you know what I'm saying? Old school, you know what I'm
saying? You know Rock band, you know,
groupie type shit, you know whatI'm saying?

(01:54):
Like. You know, my first two husbands
were musicians. Why they don't surprise me
because you look like like like you laid that.
It used to be in the back, used to get back easily get back
there to the band to hang out and everything and stuff like
that. And and she said she her last

(02:15):
two husband was was a musician. So there you go.
So how was it at the Rock? The Rock'n'roll cap Hall of Fame
excuse. Me, it was a lot of fun.
When you go in, they kind of have the first part is the
Saturday Nothing, the Mushmouth Saturday Night Live stage.

(02:36):
So, you know, every band has played.
Every band that's a big name hasplanned played on Saturday Night
Live. So that was cool.
I saw a lot of cool exhibits. I took a bunch of pictures of
Michael Jackson's outfits. Cher's Oh gosh, Joan Jett and

(02:58):
Janis Joplin were, you know, damn.
Music. That I really liked when I was
younger, so it meant a lot to go.
Oh yes, I remember Janis Joplin and Jones Jack, who was some of
your favorite rock bands back inthe day?
Oh gosh, now you know, I think telling my age, I think

(03:21):
Metallica came out when I was inlike middle school.
So, so you know, we always had the thing for Metallica and
ACDC, of course. How about you like Metallica?
How the fuck you ain't going to like ACDC?
They're my shit. Damn Def Leppard.

(03:43):
I was even a Black Sabbath fan. Unpopular opinion, I don't like
Def Leppard and everyone else. I'm good with Def Leppard and
kind of got old. But no, ACDC was my shit and
they they was my fucking shit. Especially the guitar player

(04:04):
that I, I don't know his name. He wore the schoolboy outfit.
I mean, he'd be getting it. Yo, I used to love watching on
TV. So yeah, I'm telling my age too.
Yes. I mean, when MTV had music
videos, no TV shows, just music videos.

(04:24):
I was alive with Michael Jacksonthat thoroughly premiered.
Yes, Oh my God, yes. I can remember trying to do
that. Really dance.
Like when people hear people from, I generally say music.
We grew up with music it. And go ahead, there's there's

(04:51):
good musicians today too, but you just can't be classic rock
and roll, even classic, classic R&B man.
You just won't beat it. And throw me some Usher on
there. We're going to, you know, get
down what are. You talking about?
Because to me it's like I asked the question, I said damn, what

(05:12):
happened to the rock groups? Because I don't see any new rock
groups anymore. It it it if it ain't country or
hip hop or maybe R&B, you you don't hear shit else.
Yeah, you're right. And all the girls that started
playing went to pop. You know, it's not really the
Hard Rock and roll that we grew up with, for sure.

(05:35):
And I, yeah, I kind of missed that, you know, driving in your
car when you're 16 with the radio blaring until the speakers
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so many good things you know what I'm saying?

(07:02):
So many people got so many good say about her and from looking
at her page, oh, she's went nasty, nasty milk next door that
will suck you dry and have you pass out of sleep.
So I'm going to sit back and letthe gorgeous blonde bombshell
introduce herself. Tell me who you are, baby.

(07:22):
Hello, I'm Marbley. I started as a Cam model several
years ago, let's not say how many, and shortly thereafter I
decided that I didn't like playing with myself all the time
that I wanted somebody else to play with.
So I started looking to be porn.So so for you, how long was you

(07:44):
doing the Cam? I was doing the Cam model thing
for about a year, you know, and COVID hit and there I was and I
was like, man, it's hard today. You can't get out of the house.
I said, you know, hell, if I maybe if I was doing porn, at
least I'd be getting laid. So I'll went on.

(08:08):
Somebody I agree ladies and gentlemen years since I've been
laid so I I feel her sentiment got that it made me want to come
out of retirement just get some pussy but.
But for you? What got you into webcam in the
1st place? Because I take it that you got
into it of course, late in life versus when you I did.

(08:29):
Well, I hate to be like, I just say I apologize.
I hate to be that person, but desperation.
I have been dating the same guy for a little over 10 years and
he left me and he took everything.
So at that point I decided, you know, that I needed income.

(08:51):
And I thought, well, you know, Ihave, I have Internet, let's try
this webcam and thing. And I had done it before, like
when Adult Friend Finder very first came out.
Good on. There, you know, and you were
doing it for free, just for fun.Yeah, I was there.

(09:15):
I. Was on.
I've had my last account since they pretty much came out too.
So, you know, I started webcam and just to pay the bills to
begin with. And I really, really enjoyed it.
But I think I put a lot more work into it than was necessary.

(09:35):
You know, I had to build the background and the costume and
have a script, you know, and it was, it was a lot.
I think I was expecting way too much for myself during those Cam
shows. Thank God they're recorded.
Maybe someday I'll release them,but I did a lot of characters I

(09:56):
did. I mean, if if you want to be
serious about the ones that havebeen successful in, it was kind
of doing that anyway and still doing it to this day because I
mean, you got to have a way to entertain the people.
Well, I mean, you know, you can only play with your vagina so
many times. At some point, you know, they've
seen it. I mean, my outlook has always

(10:22):
been are that fans are fickle. They will come.
They will follow you. They will watch you.
They will move on. They might come back to you.
Most of the real fans do. But they're also going to look
at everything else that's out there.
They're not just going to stick to you.
So you have to have something that draws them in.

(10:42):
Yeah. So I and also at the time my
confidence was pretty low. Like I said, my boyfriend at
that time, it just left me. So I wasn't sure that if as old
as I was, if I could make any money.
Boy was I wrong. I was really worried at 1st and

(11:04):
you know, it didn't take me but a couple of weeks to realize
that I could survive that way. And I really did enjoy camping
as far as, you know, getting to talk to the people and and you
know, you get to know your fans a lot more canning than you

(11:24):
would through necessarily just porn.
You know, a lot of times they'llcome and watch your videos on on
sites where you're just getting ad revenue, which is great.
Please watch my videos on those tube sites.
However, they're not buying yourvideos.
So you don't have a list of who watched your videos.
So you know you want those people there, but you don't get

(11:48):
to know. Them so let me ask you this
before we get into the points. I think I want to stick to the
webcam a little bit. Sure, a lot of girls, a lot of
girls. Is it unrealistic for a girl to
think that? Because I had a lot of girls
that said webcam watch and even do so say, well, my, my fans

(12:12):
don't want to see me get fucked.You know what I'm saying?
But do they realistically have arealistic view?
Because at some point, I don't care what nobody say, your fans
don't want to see you get fucked.
If you get fucked with a dildo enough I would.
Think I would think so too. There are some fans out there
who don't want to see another Dick.

(12:33):
They're only going if they were to go to a Porntube site.
They're only going to watch the solo videos anyway, so the Cam
shows are perfect for them. But there are a lot of them that
do want to see you get fucked, and I would think that the ones
that want to see you get fucked outnumber the ones who don't.

(12:55):
And like I when I first began doing porn I had Will bang on my
Cam show and we had a great time, had a lot of fun.
My first Cam show with him I didn't wait for anyone to tip so
that we would perform. We just fucked.
And then we fucked for free justto put on camera because I was

(13:17):
horny and I forgot what I was supposed to be doing.
I want to work with a lady like you did.
She. Yeah.
Yeah. She's like, she's a whole lot of
fun people. I haven't gone for it.
You do, but go ahead. I try to be a lot of fun.
If it's not fun, why do why do it?
I mean, you spend, most everybody spends their whole

(13:39):
life working a job that they hate just to get by.
And I did that for most of my life too.
But now I have a job that I lovethat I wouldn't.
I mean, most people dream of, sowhy not make it as much fun as
possible? Yeah.
But when you stop being fun, that's that's when a lot of

(14:02):
times people get out the business.
That's part of the reason why I live it won't fun anymore.
Yeah, I would think, you know, I've been doing, I've been
webcamming and everything. I guess I've been in this
industry for about 6 years and I'm not bored with it by any
means. Every opportunity is a new

(14:23):
opportunity. Every person that you sleep with
is different than the person other people.
So you never know what you're getting if you just walk in, you
know, hi, how you doing? Let's film this and you don't
really know that person. You don't know what you're
getting really into in bed. So it's always exciting just to

(14:44):
see what are they going to throwon me here?
So shoot. So now when you decided to go
boy girl to to to get some Dick,how did you go about it?
Who's your first shoot and how did you feel doing your first
shoot? Well, I was very nervous and my

(15:08):
first shoot was with Will Bain. Yeah, I see his name pop up a
whole lot on her page, ladies and gentlemen.
Who's everywhere and I, we've been in the industry a lot
longer than I have, so he knows everyone.
But yeah, we did our first porn sheet.

(15:28):
My first porn shoot was with himand we've kind of been partners
ever since. I just got lucky and found
someone you know that we clickedand he he paid for my first TTS
test to show me the industry andhe was he was my savior in it

(15:51):
because I don't really think I would have known how to have a
career if he hadn't shown me thestep.
You can Google and forget like you might know all you want, but
actually doing it is a whole nother thing.
Oh no, it it's one thing to hearabout.
It's another thing to be in it, you know, I'm saying a lot of
that is made different. I mean, I'm sure you've had

(16:16):
that. Guys will ask you all the time,
I'm sure. How do I get in the industry?
You can help me tell me what to do and.
I wish they, I hate when they dothat because me, I didn't have
that. I had to literally go look and
find, you know what I'm saying? And and also it how can I put

(16:41):
this trial and error, You know, because the Kennedy's business
is knowing how to talk to the ladies and convincing them to
work with you. Yes, yes.
Sometimes that's the kid. It is you.
Know, I mean, like dudes think that they're God's gift or think

(17:08):
that I'm going to spend a lot ofmoney to go shoot with them.
When you're an unproven talent, that doesn't happen ever.
And most people seem to think that it's free to get started in
the industry and it's really not.
I mean, even you're going to have to pay for your TTS test.

(17:28):
Even if somebody else films and the models are donating their
time to you, it's still not free.
There's location and you're testing, but most models aren't
going to shoot with you for freeif you're new to the industry.
A lot of guys that make me luckyenough to have a girlfriend
who's willing. And that's awesome if you can do

(17:50):
that. So you think about it is is that
because social media only fans, that whole era during the
pandemic made it seem made one, made it eat, made it easy for
people to get in it? You don't respect it.
The easier you get into something, the less you respect

(18:12):
what it takes to stay in it. Yeah, Yeah, I think you're right
there. Only fans did make it easier for
a lot of people who probably really deserved to be in the
industry because they built their home base, they were
consistent and they're making, they're making bank.

(18:32):
So those people probably deserveto have been in the industry to
begin with. Oh, I ain't talking about them.
I'm talking about the bullshitters.
I ain't talking about. Yeah, well.
Because the thing about it, yeah.
I know there's some girls who will like Bonnie Blue.
Bonnie Blue will fuck anybody. She does not care who you are,

(18:53):
whether or not you're tested, and she's just going to make you
wear a condom. And but you're also going to be
1 of 500 in line, you know? Hold on, Wait a second.
Yeah, I didn't know that. I didn't know about that.
See. See Bonnie, she fucked 1058 men

(19:14):
not long ago. No, because you wonder, because
that's what I said. When it come to the gang bangs,
is it about the number or the quality?
And to me, when it come to ladies like her, it's about the
numbers. So when you talk about the
numbers, if you try to get numbers, you might take anybody,

(19:35):
you might take a dude or two that.
May have you. Want the number versus you
pulling out a quality gang bang?Because to me, you don't need
$100 for the gang bang, you justneed 5 or 4.
That's it. That's it exactly what she's
getting is she's selling, I'm sure mostly unedited content

(19:57):
because it's just going to be done running through her one
after the other. And me, I'm going to release
edited content. I'm not going to claim that I
edit it because I don't will think we'll bang for that, but.
I mean, I'm going to put out a storyline.
Almost all of our videos have a storyline, you know?

(20:20):
You know how they got to the point that they were fucking?
Warner's not starting off Bond, though, And most of the stories
are silly. And I hope that they do make
people laugh a little, you know?But I think that one point was
at his best when it was a story that preceded the sex.
To me then we just fucking because OK, I can't give you a

(20:46):
variety of all we doing is fucking if it because all I'm
going to be is the same same shit, different Dick.
That's it, you know, period versus if you giving me a story,
you know, even if I'm using evenif she's using the same dude
will bang for five scenes. He ain't the same dude in all
five of them scenes. You get what?

(21:08):
I'm coming back, right? So it's absolutely.
Yeah. We've done several videos like
well, my first video was the lazy French maid video where I
played a lazy French maid and hepunishes me.
OK, so you know, but then we've done other videos where he
played Doctor Strange love and Imy my best selling role play I

(21:36):
think is Miss Lee's sex Ed class.
So I dress up like a teacher andeducate while I show you.
Oh God, but see, But see this question I wouldn't answer right
because how can I put this to me?

(22:02):
I believe that also the storytelling helps build you to
be what makes you the most money, a sex symbol.
So for you, how much do you try to sell sex appeal sexy versus
just sex I. Think we we go out of our way to
try to get the sex appeal more times than probably more often

(22:26):
than we should. We probably already have the
sexy and we're just, you know, still reaching.
I know I did a scene with Savvy G where I ran a pin up the back
of my leg, you know, bent over, dropped the pin, bend over, pick
it up, and as I'm standing back up, I run it up the back of my

(22:46):
leg. And I know we filmed me running
that pin up the back of my leg 20 times, but it's perfect.
Sorry, it is what it is, but it takes, sometimes it takes a
minute to get the shot you want.And I'm also one of those people

(23:10):
I film for Will when he performsand he films for me when I
perform. So if I'm that, if I'm that
director behind the camera, I'm going to tell you y'all, y'all
need to move. You need to do this.
This doesn't look good on camera, but I'm actually going
to direct. I'm not just going to chase you
and try to make it right. I'm going to, you know, where

(23:33):
there may be a little more startand stop with our scenes.
It makes it a little harder on the guys.
So, you know, you have to be a little more gracious about
things. But I think most of the people
that I've worked with that have done storyline scenes with us
have really, really been happy with them at the end, at least I

(23:56):
think so. If they're not, they're not
telling me. I'm pretty sure because they
come back trying to shoot with you again, that means you made
them money. I'm just saying.
Right, that's right. And if they come back fast, they
must have made it quick and thenI want.
I always believe I told people there's a blueprint to this

(24:17):
business and the blueprint is you have yourself arrested as
male talent so that you work with, they can give you the type
of things that you need for yourbrand, you know, period, AKA you
know, where they're Dick men because that's your, that's the
person you get your content withregularly.
And then you work with other established talent and so forth,
just for a change of pace, you know, so forth.

(24:37):
Now she's doing the blueprint technically, because if she's
just alluded to Will Bang is herresident male talent.
You feel me? The guy that she works on a
regular basis, they work together and create shit.
Now when it comes to male talentoutside of him, what do you look
at other than I wouldn't mind fucking that sexy motherfucker?

(25:01):
You. Look at to be like, yes, I'll
work with him and do content trade.
Well, one of the first things I'll look at is, are they only
shooting POV content? If you're not showing your face,
you better have a shit ton of followers because I'm probably

(25:21):
not going to work with you. I mean, most of the time if you
don't show your face, I it doesn't help me.
Yeah. So if you want me to do APOV
scene, you're probably going to have to pay me because I don't
need that content. It doesn't help me so much.
My fans are used to the storyline content.

(25:42):
And I mean, you can throw some POV's into that, but for me to
just film POV content, I, that'snot me.
Which is funny because I'm really good at solo content.
I can talk to the camera all daylong, but I got a good

(26:04):
imagination. Oh yeah.
But I don't really go for the POV.
I'm I don't care what race you are.
If you're black, white, Asian, Idon't care.
Does your Dick work? As long as it works and we can

(26:25):
show it on camera and you're notgoing to freak out if there are
other people in the room. And I really appreciate the guys
who can act you. Not everyone can.
Sometimes you get somebody who Mumbles or somebody who, I don't

(26:47):
know, wants to throw up gang signs in your video.
Do you tell me how some back throwing gang signs in the that
would be like what day this is? Evan, this is Evan.
OK, hold on, hold on, hold on. You hold on, hold on.
Stop, stop. You got to tell me about that.
There ain't no way here. You going to skip past.

(27:08):
So we're throwing a gang sign. Right fucking.
And you've got your phone next to this guy and you're like,
hey, look who I'm with. And when you turn the camera to
him, he's standing there throwing up all his little gang
signs. I'm not even going to try to
make them. I don't know what they are.
So I mean, I talk with my hands,but I'm not throwing signs.

(27:33):
And of course, you know, I was just like that.
I can't use that because I don'tknow.
Look, what if this gang that he threw up is not the gang that
follows me? I don't want, I mean, I don't
know. So I wanted we're not trying to
engine the following. She's a meal for blood, ladies

(27:55):
and gentlemen, the blood. She's a good fans of her.
But I mean the answer. We've had all kinds of strange
things happen, a lot of strange things.

(28:17):
Oh my God, that was good, that was good, that was good.
But even the point I would thinkbecause I saw you work my man
Billy Pilgrim shouts out to my brother.
And as well as the other ones, it don't seem like you deal with
any newbies anyway. It seems like you deal with
industry standard talent when itcomes to the guys.

(28:42):
You know, and that's one of the things that like the the new
guys I do, I have to worked withsome of the newer guys.
There was a guy in Vegas that had 20 followers that I worked
with two years ago. But also he was young.
It's easy to do a grand moth scene that way.

(29:05):
And he had actually worked with other ladies in the industry
that I knew. If you have 20, but most people,
if you have 20 followers and contact me for a collab, I'm
going to tell you, you're going to pay my rate.
I will half my rate and we can still split the content and I'll

(29:27):
spend an hour, 2 hours help teaching you how to promote your
side of the content and but you're going to pay my rate at
that point. I, I don't feel like I, I feel
like I've worked hard enough in the industry that I don't need
to teach people the knowledge that I have for free.

(29:49):
I learned the hard way. Some truth, but but see, but
like I said, but with you, like I said, you have a legend that's
working with you. You know what I'm saying?
So it's kind of like I tell people you want to take this
being serious. You don't deal with amateur if
you deal with the pro guys because I mean, granted, yeah,
it's some some of you pro guys, yeah, it is what it is.

(30:13):
But you have a high percentage of getting a quality scene out
of them that you would a dude that really ain't never been in
front of camera like. That absolutely, absolutely.
And it's always, you know, a toss up.
If you've never worked with someone before, even someone

(30:36):
who's been in the industry for along time, you can show up and
something about you might be abrasive to them and they may
not be able to perform and you won't.
You won't know why. I mean, you know, they're not
going to tell you, oh, I hate your voice or you know, so you
know, but. But to me, I ain't gonna lie

(30:57):
though, if it's a concentrate, though it really ain't.
But so much it there ain't but so much of an excuse, dawg.
I'm sorry because I actually gotto know you a little bit before
we shot. Now Matt, now Brandy, we may not
flirt Dick back and forth or sent, you know, sexed back and
forth, but there's some type of camaraderie that the ice is

(31:20):
broke. So when we see each other, it's
work. Well, yes, and I would like that
you discuss the scene beforehand, you know, even in
the collab. I want to know what kind of
content are you looking for? If this is the like, if you're
looking for certain things for your fan and it works for me and

(31:41):
my fans, that's even better. Then we can both get what we
want out of it. But let's say your thing doesn't
work for my fans, so we can still use it, but let's add my
thing too and then we can cut it.
You know, however you need to, as long as as I feel like most
people don't understand that a collab is working together.

(32:04):
You walk in and sometimes peopleare like, OK, this is what we're
doing. And I'm like, is it really?
But you ain't going for it. I but me and you would have
worked together because that what I did, I didn't like I
hated doing POVSI did them. But I prefer having that

(32:24):
cameraman. We do a scene because I wouldn't
that shit to be timeless becauseit I wanted motherfuckers to
remember. Like, for example, like one of
the scenes that my fans would love so much was when one of the
girls was my boss and she told me that if I don't want to be in

(32:46):
the unemployment line, but you know, my knees eating pussy and
the fans look, you know what I'msaying?
Because they do remember. People don't realize they do
remember some of the shit that you say doing those scenes.
Oh absolutely. It it plays out, it makes the
sex more fantasy. Then Oh, absolutely it does.
You got to have your little lines that go with your role

(33:10):
play. Of course.
You know, Harley Quinn. Come on, Putin.
Don't you want to ride your Harley?
You know, you've got to have your lines.
She must know I'm a bad. I'm sorry.
You see, she must know I'm a Batman fan.
Oh, OK, let me tell you my stagename.

(33:32):
Marvel Lee is Marvel Comics StanLee.
I am actually. When you say that, I kind of
figured that. I love I love to dress up.
I just got a new Spot ghost spider costume so I'm going to
be running around a spider Gwen for a while.
Maybe run through the hotel herewhere I'm staying?

(33:56):
I always wanted to fuck a spiderGwen, but Oh my God, yeah, you
gotta do these fun questions real quick.
So do we do anal? Yes, I do anal.
Generally I do it if I'm paid. I don't do it in most collabs.
I have done it in collabs but not very often.

(34:19):
Just depends on the scene. Dog Vision right now has a scene
of me running from anal with Mr.Magic.
Yeah, I did see the picture. Mr. Magic shouts out to my bro.
So yeah, well, that motherfuckerlied.
OK, let me just say this. Magic told me he had an 8 inch

(34:42):
Dick and I showed up and by God,that's no, there's no you do.
No, no, you don't have an 8 inchDick.
OK. So again, I do anal.
I don't do it as often as some of the other girls.
And you're, you're going to showup with this giant cock and

(35:05):
think, Oh yeah, no, you're not running that up my ass.
I'm going to run from you. And of course, obviously he
caught me at the end and I did it, but I'm going to run for the
beginning. Oh my God.
So so now is is are you is you into anal or you do anal 4

(35:26):
content? You know what I'm saying?
Are you into anal meaning you get off if you get fucked?
OK, so I used to enjoy it when Iwas younger back when, you know,
it snowed a lot or but I don't do those things anymore, so it's

(35:47):
a little. Different.
It depends on what state you in.People, it depends on what state
you in. Yeah, it depended on what state
I was in. That's a great way of putting
it. Oh my God, and I'm sure I can.
Still enjoy it? Know what you better say?

(36:10):
I'm sorry. I'm sure I I could still enjoy
it even, but I think I would have to work up to enjoying it
with something that large. You know, if we're going to use
a really large cock, then I'm going to I'm going to use my
dildo for a little while first. Let's loosen that shit up then I

(36:33):
can enjoy it, no? I hate it trust me.
I'm like it's funny that this generation of of porn stars they
are down for anal. Where was this when my black ass
was fucking active? The girls who do my chick like,
no, no, I'm like damn man, girl,look at my sheep like yeah,

(36:54):
yeah. You've got a a big Dick and
girls are more likely to tell you no.
And definitely the size of your Dick makes a difference.
But no, I tell anybody, don't doanything that you wouldn't
normally do in your personal sexlife.
So if you want to, don't do anallike that, you know what I'm

(37:15):
saying? And two, if you don't get off on
it or it feels good to you because sometimes girls do shit
just for the payday, you know what I'm saying?
And that's not. Yeah, what happens is you don't
get as good a content. I mean, some girls can act and
you may not know the difference,but most girls, you're going to

(37:39):
know the difference. You know, if you have, if you
have a porn star that you love and you noticed in every video
when she comes, her face flushesand then that next video pops
out and her face don't flush, but she's moaning.
You know she's not getting off, right?
I mean, as a fan, if you know that.

(38:01):
Her face flushes. Obviously it's a dead giveaway,
so they're not going to. Take you over with ladies that
ladies don't always orgasm doingtheir scenes.
You know what I'm saying? They they, they don't get tasty.
They do. Some do, but sometimes they
don't. Most of the time I really enjoy
my scenes. I've always really enjoyed sex

(38:24):
and I've always been multi orgasmic.
But I mean there has been one ortwo times where I showed up
first scene and didn't get off and I 100% blame to my code
performer. Yeah, it is our fault.
Ladies and gentlemen. I'm just letting you know fast,
it is our fault. Now we're in the year of gang

(38:49):
bangs. Are you looking to do a gang
bang? Have you done a gang bang and so
forth. I.
I have not. I just did my very first, you
know, I've been in the industry for a long time, but I hadn't
got to do, you know, my first MFM scene.
I did that last month with Jay Playhard and Savvy G and they we

(39:09):
were, it was recorded in VR, which is even better.
It was also my first VR scene, so, but yeah, just the two guys
on camera. I do a lot of 2 girls and a guy
threesomes, but I hadn't had theopportunity to do the two guys

(39:30):
and I really, really enjoyed that.
So I'm sure I'd love to do the gangbang too.
So how was it? So how was was this your first?
Because you said it was your first male, male, female
threesome. It was.
Not personally, not in life, buton camera.
But my first on camera. Yeah, OK.
OK, OK, and and for you, she said she know she would love

(39:58):
doing the game, but what is it about the threesome or even the
game bank that turns you off? I think it's the lack of
control, you know, just being tossed around and being
someone's whore is a lot of fun.You get to let go of your your

(40:19):
ambitions because they're on a flip you and put you anywhere
they want you anyway. So it's not, you don't have time
to get uptight about this or uptight about that.
It just happens and it hell, it's fun.
I've always enjoyed that kind ofthing, just kind of being tossed

(40:39):
around like a rag doll. So shoot.
So what would be your perfect number for your your first game
Bang? Gee, you know, we really haven't
talked about it. We have talked about doing my
first gang bang as awake for Will like where I pretend like

(41:02):
Will passed away and everyone just comes in to comfort me so.
God Dang, who the hell? Oh wait, wait, who the hell came
up with that? Wait, will no.
No, but he's actually, he's going to be there saying, but
I'm right here the whole time. Yeah.

(41:24):
You know well it is. Great.
Come right? No, we did something similar
with my I did a Catholic precinct where I pretended that
Will had passed and I was crying.
And the priest starts, you know,comforting me.

(41:45):
And it gets more and more intimate as we go.
And then it cuts to Will screaming.
But I'm right here. And it shows him right there
staring at us while we're fucking.
But we act like he's not there. So it's up to you, I guess, to
just decide whether or not I'm. I'm just going to say this.
Right now, I know that thing's old.

(42:07):
I hate you. This part when you're talking to
other scenes, I even got to eveneven acts just because the way
it was described. You know what I'm saying?
Yeah. It's so many faces within that
that are what I call quality fetishes, meaning that it's not

(42:29):
it's not a big fetish and it's so centralized that it is
meaning not a lot of people is into that, which makes it more
sellable because yeah, you know what I'm saying?
But it it like put this way the fetish that the least into is

(42:49):
the most expensive fetish. Oh yeah, absolutely.
No. Well, not just that.
I mean, I think lots of men havehave fantasized about fucking
the grieving widow, you know, and my mom, God will rest her
soul. She told me before she passed,
she said anytime someone dies, there's sex.

(43:11):
And I said, what? And she said, no, really, that's
how people comfort each other. So anytime someone dies, there's
sex. And for most of my life, that's
been true. So I, you know, might as well
carry on with the theme. I'm saying you gotta just be so

(43:33):
for you. Are you into BDSM?
Any of that. Personally, yes I have.
I have not filmed very many BDSMscenes.
I used to do them as Cam shows where I would tie myself up and
then start the Cam show. But I do have a BDSM scene

(43:55):
scheduled in July that I'm looking forward to.
It's been a long time. You know, as you get older, you
get a little more hesitant aboutgoing to do BDS.
With people you. Don't.
Know Oh my God. So now the other thing that you

(44:15):
mentioned and I was talking ladies about this is that the
porn game has became older and like you said when you came in,
you questioned wherever you would draw money, draw fan base
because of your age. You know, how shocked was you
and how quick did you realize that they want older women, They

(44:38):
want some seasoning. It was very quickly.
I still felt like I needed to keep on with my niche, you know,
with my role-playing niche. But being able to make money, I
mean, within the first two weeksI was be able, I was able to
start paying my bills again, youknow, and I was, it was, it was

(45:02):
a miracle for me at the time when I started because I was
really desperate. I would, I didn't know if I was
going to have electricity that, you know, next month or not.
And I was living in a double wide trailer in the middle of
nowhere. So getting out of there helped a
lot too, getting out of that little small town.

(45:23):
If anybody out there is in the industry and thinks they can
make it in a small town, no you can't.
People are not going to travel to you to collab.
They are not. Get out.
If you want to make it in the industry, leave that small town.
It's not helping you and they'reall talking shit about you
behind your back. You can't quit changing who

(45:47):
aren't ashamed so. But for you getting the
industry, how much was it betterthat you got in older versus if
you got in if you was younger? I think if I had started when I
was in my early 20s, I'd own theworld.

(46:07):
I would own the world if I knew knew then what I know now and it
started in my early 20s. I would I would never ask have
to ask for anything ever again. I would have it.
I feel like I was a lot more hypersexual, probably as I was
younger, which would have been great content.

(46:32):
I'm still hyper but maybe I'm a little slower in my old age I
mean. I don't know cuz some of ya cuz
these older women be be making these young boys tap out.
I'm just saying. That was one thing that really
made me happy. I was performing with someone in
the industry, riding them. And after the scene was over, he

(46:54):
looked at me and he said most women your age can't ride like
that. And I said, well, thank you.
That was all that was great. And that was probably one of my
first porn shoots to to hear that made me feel really good.
So I'm, yeah, I mean, it didn't take long before I felt like I

(47:20):
was building the following. I really didn't know how to use
Twitter. So Twitter for promotion is
probably your best friend. And I didn't know how to use it.
And I'm still not consistent with Twitter.
I'm more consistent with, you know, other things, but Twitter

(47:42):
is also, you know, just fabulousfor your promotion.
So when I was trying to get going, it was a lot of word of
mouth, you know, mostly people saying, hey, I saw this girl and
you should check her out or people asking if they could be
on my Cam shows, which was always weird.

(48:04):
I never could figure out why people thought that they could
just come and. So so when it come to also with
this big because this business allows us to be more sexually
free sexual open the whole 9 foryou.

(48:28):
How did it feel finding the industry and then being able to
express yourself sexually in a way that you wasn't able to
before? Well, from going from where and
I started as a Cam model and I had lost all my self-confidence
and didn't think that I could doanything to realizing that I

(48:50):
actually had a career here and that, you know, people do like
me and I do have fans. It was the best ego booster.
My self-confidence started growing.
I still have days when I have down days about my
self-confidence. But hey, doesn't you know?
But obviously I've done well. I've gone to conventions and

(49:16):
signed autographs for people whowanted autographs you can't get.
It doesn't get more famous than that.
You know, people who aren't famous don't sign autographs,
so. Yeah, even Dracula wanted some
time with her. Yes, yes.
We did it wrong though. Oh my.

(49:37):
God, that was 1. Of my best things, When I saw
that Dracula guy at Exotica, I said, Oh my God, I've got to get
this picture. And I asked his wife to take it.
I got down on my knees and I puthis hands on the back of my head

(49:58):
and I said, OK, take it. And they both started dying
laughing. And I said, you've walked all
over the convention. No one else thought of that.
And he said no. I did nobody.

(50:20):
I know which things come from. I like her.
Oh my God, people. I haven't heard these lady young
people for an hour and, you know, we haven't even touched
the service. So, you know, I got to ask for
the $1,000,000 question. Miss Marvel Lee, can I call you
a smoke buddy? Yes, absolutely.

(50:43):
She say no more, she'll be back here on the smokers lounge and
yes, we're going to bring her tothe place where the conversation
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(51:55):
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Where you putting in that word? I'm on cheer, I'm on many

(52:17):
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(52:38):
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over? What did you learn?
Well, porn can be timeless. There's an old saying it doesn't

(52:59):
matter when it happens, long as it hits you feel me?
And if anything this earned pornshows you is that people want to
see more mature, grown ass women.
That is what's dominating this industry.
The young dudes want to see it and guys my age want to see it.

(53:21):
You know, period. Now, whether it's because
interracial, whether it's because of Miss Parker and
Stiffler's mom, either way, the games became older.
And the reason why? Because older women can handle
the business better than youngerwomen.
I'm sorry that may be unpopular.Some of you young girls may not
like that, but it's the truth because I'll never see an older

(53:44):
woman see here and do a video saying an only fan destroyed her
life. The reason why?
Because when you get to our age,you don't give a fuck what
people think anymore. Yes, that's the gene.
I don't give a fuck. I'm here to live my life because
I ain't got much time on left onthis earth and I'm going to

(54:05):
enjoy my fucking life. That's why older women are more
successful in this business thanyou young girls because y'all
worried about mom and daddy finding out.
They ain't worried about mom anddaddy.
I have a mom and dad 2 got them old mom and daddy ain't here or
mom and daddy They died in Florida swinging their God damn
self you know period. I never forget I had to do see

(54:28):
here and tell me he got out of porn.
Well I'm worried about my daughter finding out that I did
porn. Now these same dudes is worried
about their daughters finding getting porn.
These same daughters are right now doing only fans.
The point being is it's OK to doa profession that you enjoy and

(54:51):
that you love that makes you money.
You cannot walk into this game shame.
You cannot act like you shame with this game because if you
do, you're not going to be successful, you're not going to
make money, you're not going to grow, you're going to be
stagnant because you're like shesaid, small town porn stars

(55:11):
don't make money. Small minds don't create big
ideas. You understand So when it when
you look at these ladies, keep in mind these women, one gave up
a lot to do this, but also respect the fact that they smart
enough to pull it off. Oh.

(55:33):
Yeah. At the end of the day and two
one other thing that hold on, she she showed y'all remember
that blueprint I was telling youabout?
Once again, another perfect example of that blueprint,
because at the end of the day, the key is to be successful in
porn, to make money in porn is these three three things, film,

(55:57):
film and film. You can't make it takes more
than one scene to create a checkin our business.
Yeah. There you go, people.
So with that being said, you know we end these things all
day, every day. Life is a learning experience.
What's the point of the experience if you haven't

(56:17):
learned anything? Smoke this over.
Say goodbye to him, gorgeous. Thank you, it was a pleasure
being here. I hope that your fans will look
me up and if not, everyone else will.
Anyway, don't miss out. Premium smokers and smokers
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