July 8, 2025 • 59 mins
This episode I talk with the returning Porn couple J.R. and Jazmine Cruz. We discuss her adding fitness to her brand from her videos of her working out to her pics. She discusses how she loves to stay in shape and her competing in Fitness competitions. We discuss the wrestling fetish and how more wrestling leagues are popping up and how the wrestling fetish is growing. J.R. discusses the 7 person orgy he and Jazmine did during the AVN weekend and we talk Gangbangs and Jazmine becoming a spokes model for Me4U an A.I. company plus more.
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I'm saying so my words can catchup to them.
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Can you hear me? Yeah, I hear you.
OK, you couldn't hear jazz though.
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Yeah, I couldn't hear jazz. No.
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How you know? They're podcasters too.
But yes, Sir, because, because, because see, because see, it's
different. Because see, when I talk to
people that just pour stars, they don't go through.
Yeah, I'm, I'm the audio sounding right and then, you
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know, the aesthetic and trying to play with this damn camera.
Oh my goodness, so. And how are y'all lovely people
doing today? Doing great.
Doing well just wrapped up. I guest hosted a podcast for Ray
Ray for the Deep Thoughts podcast so.
(02:56):
Oh my God, how was, how was that?
It was great. We interviewed Kyle Starr,
another close personal friend ofours.
OK. And how the podcast thing be
going because the last time I didn't talk to y'all about the
podcast. It's been a minute.
Yeah, I know. Yeah.
There's a big ABS Yeah, you. Guys and us were both nominated
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for Best of All Fighting. Oh yeah, and and shoot, man, it
it feel good to talk to somebodyelse that's nominated for ABA
right podcast. You know, I mean, we're not,
we're, we're not on pillow talkslevel yet.
I mean, it just is what it is, you know?
But I. Was like, no, I, no, I don't be
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real with you. I was shocked they won.
I thought it was going to be Adam again.
Really. I thought it was going to be
plugged off because, you know, no jumper.
He got the bigger people, you know.
Yeah, but. I mean, Ryan's been hustling
this year, man. They have some good videos I've
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saw I've I've actually congratulated him for winning.
So yeah, I. I was happy to go with somebody
other than to a talk. I'm about to say no, he can't do
it three years in a row. Come on.
Yeah. Well, then if it was like, if it
was, you know, like one of thosebig name sponsored podcasts, it
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would have been like, oh, oh, it's like that, huh?
Yeah, yeah, every. This little.
Girl, did they really do take the fan count yeah it it just
they based off of money, you know, so so I didn't feel to be
nominated as a podcast It's. It's.
You you. You were nominated for talking,
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not fucking. We're appreciated for our
personality and seeing all of this.
Oh yeah. I I was always told that I have
a face for radio, so you know, it's good to be charming and
people enjoying the the sensual sound of my voice, it makes a
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big difference. Oh yeah.
Oh yeah, oh, yeah, oh, yeah. Because I don't care if nobody
say you got to have a sexy voice.
You do this shit. A voice that people want to
listen to because they don't want no voice.
They just be irritating you. Be like why is he talking?
Right. Man, I'll tell you what, I and
Congrats to you. I noticed you're moving up in
the technology and stuff. We're on the Green Yard now.
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We were on Skype the last time we talked and it was always like
wasn't always, we weren't alwaysable to hear you good.
So it was like it would be, you know, we just might match if you
were laughing. We started laughing.
Oh yeah, that was crazy. Skype ain't even an existing no
more than that is I think some some meta chat Google chat or
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something. I was like well damn, I bet I
did switch the stream y'all, butstream y'all is way better
because I can pull up stuff and and oh God, I boy, y'all need to
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I did. I just love seeing the blush
when I'd be showing them when they'd be sucking Dick.
Yeah, yeah. I can't do that for this podcast
though, no. No, no, not for this one.
No, Spotify will fucking flag the fuck out of me.
Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, that'll I can
imagine. Oh my goodness, let me get this
out the way. Let me talk to my people.
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and they are Cruz. Thank you.
Thank you, that was one hell of an introduction.
Let me tell you. I try to get everybody a good
thing. So now opening the podcast,
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because that was because a lot of times I don't know what the
hell I'm going to talk about when I come on here, but then I
go look at that page and I know this.
You make fitness a part of your brand.
I sure do. You know, and how did fitness
fits in? Well, for me, I've always, I've
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loved fitness. I've been bodybuilding since
2012, you know, competitions, I've done lifting competitions
from women competition. I think it's in my blood to
enjoy fitness and and I think it's also part of in this
industry, you need, you know, good stamina, good flexibility.
And I get mental health and physical health go hand in hand.
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So I think this is something that for me, for my mental
health, I need to go to the gym.I think if I don't go to the
gym, I don't my mind is not set right.
So it just gets me going, gets my brain cells going and it just
puts me in a better mood. Like, yeah, what you about
saying it doesn't. It puts me in a better mood
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physically and emotionally. So.
From the gym. Randy as hell too.
Oh, I didn't believe it because see the reason why I asked that?
Because like I said, we're goingto have a page.
You see a lot of the, you know, the posing, showing the muscles
and the whole 9. And when did that?
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When did you decide I need to implement more of that those
type pics, the fitness showing that I work out a part of you
know what I'm saying? Because sometimes.
Yeah, we. Try to, but we we try to, even
though we do porn it we we kind of try to market ourselves to
things that might be outside. Yeah, I, I think, yeah, I think
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for my quote that I always says I'm more than just a pretty face
because if you see me in a dressand just looking at me, you're
like, oh, you know, you don't look like you were before in the
competition. I'm like, that's a competition
where you have to train your body look like that.
But your strength and your stamina and your build does not
change because you throughout the years, if you maintain it,
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your strength is still going to stay the same as long as you're
not, you know, don't make your muscles atrophy.
For me, it's just part of my life.
And I know that if I incorporateit more in my social media, I
think people are noticing it andI kind of I kind of like it
because before I didn't utilize it as much, but now I'm getting
(12:08):
more, I guess following because of it.
So like I really like it and it just.
Needs brothers. It comes with it.
It's an actual fitness fetish. Raised and gentleman.
Yes, it is. It's a fetish.
Fun. Yeah.
Physique, yeah, the the, you know, the, the fitness right
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there. They don't pay to watch a girl
workout. Butt ass naked, squat 500 lbs
butt ass naked. I'm just being honest.
So for you, when did you discover the fetish side of it
and how much you take advantage of that?
Oh, OK, I I went to the fetish convention in Florida and a lot
of my friends were telling me, how come you don't like be more
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of this muscle worship or don't you lift people?
You could. I just did it for fun.
And I said, you know, you could get paid to do it and the lift
people and arm wrestle and flex.And then, you know, Jr. here was
like, hey, you know, he's the real competitive wrestler.
And then he was like, well, I'veseen some hot women do it.
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And I'm not, I'm just a beginner, OK?
I'm not as great as him. He's really did.
He's a real 1. He's been training you, huh?
Yeah, he's been coaching. You, he was coaching me and he
got me some paid shoots. So, you know, he really, I, I
told him I'm a little bit intimidated because when you're
teenagers and your husband do itand they're all competitive
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wrestlers and I'm just looking pretty lifting weights, It's,
it's kind of like, man, I need to really challenge my brain and
stop holding myself back. And I, he motivated me to do it.
And I in my beginning videos from years ago, it's a big
progression because I was so scared to even do a scissor
hold. Excuse me, Jiu jitsu, right?
(14:00):
You know how to talk? Yeah.
We're good through it. Yeah, yeah, we're working on it.
So like, you know how there's those Dance Moms, you know, when
they're like on the sidelines where out of out of camera shot
and they're like dance, dance. OK, smile, smile.
Well, that's me in the in the background.
I'm like on my legs up. Like get him in, get him in
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there, lock it in. Yeah.
Turn, turn. I can imagine the conversation.
You get twist your hips enough. You get twist your hips.
This is the real coach so. One of the things that we're
looking at, we're actually goingto be starting this year as far
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as like fitness and wrestling and stuff is we're we're going
to be partnering up with women of Sparta slash Pompey erotic
out there in Cali and we're going to be.
Teaming up with him to do. Kind of like his East Coast
studio so that he can so that hecan reach out to to more models
that don't travel all the way over there as much.
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We have a location here that we can bring him to that it's still
all of his content. We just kind of help run it.
I'll run the camera. I help with the coordination,
the choreography and things likethat.
Now it was funny because I can'tthink, damn, I can't think of
the girl name off hand her and Iwas trying to get Nadia White
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because I know Nadia White actually do professional
wrestling, which is so fucking cool.
Yeah. And she actually damn good.
I had to watch my back of this shit, you know, But I noticed,
see, not only has it been a risein well now has this been the
year of the gang bang. I noticed low key, this been the
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year of wrestling, female wrestling organizations popping
up. Oh, OK.
And because because it's like I'm starting to see more of that
now. You know what I'm saying?
Of course, you know Laura Cross,I've seen you and other ones.
What is been the in your opinion, why is that now
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becoming forefront is now starting to grow?
Well, I think that it's empowering to see women be
stronger and you know, before, just like WWE, we used to
transition just a male sport, male driven and now females
being strong and being able to do and withstands much kind of,
(16:31):
you know, I guess techniques like that.
I think it's being bigger because number one, it's fun.
It's pretty hot too, to see a hot woman in hot outfit, like
taking down someone. I don't know, it's something,
you know, like you said, it's a fetish.
So I think it's because it's getting bigger and I I'm glad
for it too. Is before it.
(16:53):
I think I was saying different leaves and shit and they have to
mix wrestling and even with someof it.
Sex don't. It don't end in sex.
You know. Yeah.
You know, let me ask you this. Do you think, do you think it
works better if we don't end in sex or it works better if it
ends in sex? I think you can mix between the
two. You're like one day you want it
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and sometimes you don't. Maybe it's like it doesn't have
to end it, but you can make it creative to make it end without
it and then make them Part 2. Like how about what it looks
like with the sex? And also in the market, like
some some people with those the fetish like wrestling fetishes
(17:34):
and stuff like the sex isn't, isn't part of their kink for
them. It is just that I think a lot of
it just especially with like thepro wrestling side of the house.
I mean, look at where the WWE isnow with women's wrestling
compared to say the attitude eraand before, like women were just
(17:55):
like the window dressing like there was no they, they're,
they're taking women seriously and and it's amazing to see
because they can do some incredible freaking stunts and
incredible tricks and strength that like what's her name, Ria
Ripley now, just like bench press and you know, military
press people you have that she'sdoing the razor's edge.
(18:16):
I mean the razor's edge. It's amazing you.
See, what's crazy is because I'ma, well, one, the fans know I'm
a huge wrestling fan. I've restarted my podcast and
I've seen from looking at the Indies, the women, it's OK, they
just keep it 100. The women are better looking and
they're better wrestlers now. So yeah, they ain't even a joke
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because I was just sitting therewatching the NWAI was like,
damn, did this. Even at the lower level.
The women are going good. And I went to what was it a
independent show, Deadlock Pro, which I planned to go to the
next one. The main event was for the
women's title and it was a fucking chain match.
People of the females was fine as shit.
I said damn it and it was brutal.
(19:01):
Now I'm like you, a woman with the chain.
I said damn. But but to me, it's like with
wrestling is like to me, if a female has physique that in my
opinion should be a face that you're looking to because even
to the point that even if it's not them actually wrestling,
(19:21):
it's just even on the meet and greet side of things, you have
fans that just want you to ball them up, put them in a leg lock
and stuff like that. Or where have you?
So with you, have you thought about doing wrestling is content
to put out for yourself? Oh, I've already done wrestling
for content for the last two years already, so I.
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Don't want though we're we're going to start ramping that up.
More. We've done a little for me, a
little bit, but he's done more than me.
But now that I'm getting used tohim helping me out with the
positions and stuff, I'm going to continue to do more.
And I think, I think guys are loving it.
I mean, I went to Exotica. I got paid to put people in
headlock and wrestled them. I was like, what's going on?
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They were like, I don't want a photo, more like put me in
headlock. I was like, hey, it's something
different. I actually liked it, so I said
it's different. I've never put anyone in a
headlock at a convention until Exotica.
And I've been to Like ventions since two years ago, so that was
really fun to see that. Yeah, because it's because, like
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you said, to see a beautiful woman that is strong and can
move a guy like that or even wrestle with each other, you
know, even if you brought with only mother take this shit
seriously. Like they have belts.
I was like, oh. Yeah.
Yeah, you got no belt. Why not?
Oh my God. So now I'm ask you this, how
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does the fans react to your wrestling content versus the
XXX? Well, I think they're actually
loving it. I mean, to me it's something
different because I've done porna lot more, but it feels very,
it motivates me to do more wrestling moves because now that
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they're respecting me for my strength.
Before I was like, oh, everyone sees me doing porn, but I kind
of like to mix it up, you know, not always doing that all the
time, but adding wrestling is a challenge for me.
And I think a lot more followersare actually appreciating it and
saying, did you do this? Could you do that?
Would you put that person in a move?
(21:33):
Could you work with this person?I'm going, wow, I'm getting more
requests than ever. And I love it because I, like I
said, I was afraid to come out and it but wasn't for Jr. here.
It gave me those lessons and that motivation.
I don't, I don't think I'd be doing it because I told him I'm,
I'm nervous and he's trying to help me overcome my, my anxiety
(21:53):
and nervous because I, I can lift whatever.
But when it comes to wrestling, you got to use a lot of brain
work because your body has to learn how to safely turn someone
and you have to make yourself safe enough to get wrestle
someone else as well. I mean, it's entertainment, but
you can get hurt even though you're in.
People safety is key when you'redoing a lot of this type of
stuff. So we're, we're starting to try
(22:16):
to build up an archive before wereally start to release too, too
much. And it's just because like, if
you throw something out there and then the fans really, really
like it, They're like, where's the next one?
Well, you know, we're kind of balancing a bunch of other
stuff. You know, we've got the podcast,
we've got all of our porn stuff.So like really just finding that
balance and and building up thatarchive before we really start
(22:39):
releasing more of them is kind of where we're going.
But she did just recently do herfirst scene for Evolved Fights
with Ray Ray. Yeah, we did.
As an opponent. Yes.
That was, I've been seeing somebody shit.
I was Jasmine Cruz and Filipina flamethrower.
(23:03):
Yes. Well, the joke is, well, I love
flamethrower at Burger King, butI also think he thought of the
name Dairy Queen Flamethrower. Oh, I thought it was Burger
King. Oh, oh, it's Dairy Queen is a
flamethrower. I think you're doing like I'm
hot, passionate, you know, I'm fire fierce.
But then I like food and I like meat, if you know what I mean.
Oh yes, she didn't go to meat. You see what she.
(23:26):
Think it could be PEG or it could be triple F.
There's no middle with her either, it's either PG.
Or. Triple X like. 2 extremes.
That's a good thing because, youknow, hey, she's not boring.
That is 100% true. It's always an adventure, right?
(23:46):
There is never a boring moment with Jasmine Cruz.
Oh my God, so y'all seem like a couple that's always looking to
expand your brand, find new lands to conquer and stuff of
that nature. How do you fight complacency?
Because the one thing that I will tell people, one thing, a
(24:07):
business owner will never be as comfortable.
We have to learn to be comfortable with being
uncomfortable. So how do you fight this?
You know, complacency, especially with things going
good. I would say we are surrounded by
a great support system. I would say Ray, Ray and and and
Jay, we've got Mr. J and Daisy Fox to support us in.
(24:32):
Chief fetish? Chief fetish Also there's Kyle
balls Kyle star really motivating positive people who
we've been surrounded with. There's Peter Fitzwell, 9 Fox.
So people that's been in it giving us a positive
reinforcement to say, hey, it can be hard, it can be
challenging, it could be years of hard work.
But in the end result is people are going to notice it and your
(24:55):
fans are going to notice it and friends are going to notice it.
And it really, really humbles meto know that, you know, where I
when I first started and nobody bought my my merchandise like
two or three years ago, No one. OK, but I say this story because
I went to LA Xbiz and I went to Exotica, I went to ABN and all
(25:19):
three of those events I actuallysold merchandise for the first
time in three years. So talk about like in tears
telling my husband no one wantedto buy my stuff or never knew
me, but it's OK. Like he said, they're going to
know you would be put in the hard work.
And honestly, after three or four years, people are seeing
(25:40):
it. And I want to thank the fans out
there. If they're listening, they got
photos, videos, they've bought stuff and it and they know
they're sexy buns now because ofour our branding.
So something must be working. I mean, we're not a big famous
people, but it feels good that someone's noticing us and buying
our stuff. I was.
(26:01):
Going to say one of the things that that helps us to not get
complacent right now is that, you know, we're still not
relatively famous. You know, we're not new, but
we're not, you know, like superstars.
So we're still, we still got to hustle, you know, we got, we got
bills to to pay. We've got kids getting ready to
going to college like we have got to keep hustling and
(26:21):
fortunately that's been that's been in green with us for years
and years. So really it's stuff like that
that kind of keeps us from getting complacent, but we also
do try to make sure that we listen to our bodies, we listen
to our kids, we take breaks, youknow, and we really make sure
that we prioritize us, ourselvesand our well-being over over the
(26:43):
business. So we.
The commentary was funny. See, I talk about this all the
time on my podcast. The one thing that I know is
we're dealing with women when I was dealing with them because
they lack patience. And it's interesting what she
just said because most females after that moment that she
couldn't sell shit with a damn. They probably quit the business
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and, and, and, and a lot of timethese ladies as well as fellas,
ladies more so than fellas. Not knocking women, but because
it's easy for them to make the money, they expect it to come.
Instantly, yeah. So for you, how hard was it to
learn patience? I think for me, I've I've always
(27:26):
been patient, especially really.I want to hear the answer to
this one. I've been patient.
I I can lose my patience, yes, But I think for me, we can bump
heads because I know he knows. Because I used to cry about it.
I was like, oh, nobody likes me,nobody wants this.
(27:50):
And he goes, it's going to take time.
And I'm like, how much time is there?
You know, because I'm putting myself out there in social
media, I'm dancing, I'm moving, I'm modeling, I'm wrestling, I'm
doing all this fetish work. But he said, but remember, you
got to stand out and show your personality something that makes
you stand out from the rest because everyone's doing it.
(28:13):
And what can you make you different from the rest?
And that's what kept me going because when Jr. said doesn't
mean they don't like you, it's just it's just a whole lot of
people are in porn, a lot of people are doing fetish.
But you need to get your audience and get them the right
way. And like he said, I think
(28:33):
getting to know who I am and being myself because I told him
I'm like, maybe I should do whatshe's doing.
But what they're doing on socialmedia, he's like, no, I think
brand yourself of who you are. And if you wear a dress and
sandals, say that in an interview.
Don't lie. Because before I was like, well,
I really, yeah, I don't wear underwear.
Wait, wait. I do wear underwear when I
(28:53):
sleep, you know. She tried to do she initially
she you know, she wanted to do the boilerplate, you know,
Playboy interview style answers,you know, like I really enjoy
sleeping. Yeah, but I'm walking on a.
Beach. Oh no, they they.
All of this. When they talk, when people talk
about authentic, what they want is not the point.
(29:14):
They talk about authentic. They talk about the person
that's in the beach. Yeah, that what we don't get
because he's the person that brings it out.
It's no different than why do everybody love Jenna Jameson?
The personality she put on camera when she was filming it,
It it from the what she from thescene beginning the scene when
she talking to when she was fucking.
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And people like a female that enjoy being a slack, they enjoy
being fucked, they enjoy having sex and they want to see that
also on social media side of things, you know, period.
Because even to the point where like every time you see a truck,
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even when she poses, it's a smile always.
I'm always smiling. Sometimes I feel like I think
other people should smile more because they just hiding it with
me. It's deep down inside.
I'm like, man, people ask me, are you really happy?
All this, all day, all night? Honestly, yeah, I really am.
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I guess I've always been a positive person in my family.
They are has been positive, but I think it's within us.
But I mean, there are days when I'm down, but I don't let that
get to me. Before I was like, oh, I'm going
to be down. And then I'm like, whatever,
I'll just go to the gym or I'll just you know, something to AR,
if you know what I mean. Play with his Dick or something.
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Oh, you know. Oh, I mean, playing with his
Dick. Isn't talking going to like
playing playing, playing with his Dick?
She's she's the. Queen of overcorrection, man,
like I, I can if if I'm trying to like, you know, these are
they they pick up noise, but it has to be like in their general
direction. You start to talk off like then
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the IT doesn't pick up the noiseas well.
And so when I'm just like, no, no, no, just angle at the
camera, she's like, that means Ineed to get back up here and
talk like that. I'm like.
No, yeah, that's as close as I want to suck your Dick like
this. Y'all got to check out their
podcast. Y'all need to check out their
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podcast because I can imagine what they, I can tell you right
now, they really cut up on theseshoes.
Oh my God. So, so now tell me about ABN's.
How was your ABN trip? What shoots do you do and all
that good stuff. We actually did our very big
huge seven person orgy that was orchestrated and organized by
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me. I was surprised they are.
I got all the women together andall the men, all took towers in
single file, all the paperwork. Let's start from the.
Beginning. Oh yeah, yeah.
Let's start from the beginning. OK, Go ahead.
So we're at the red carpet, we're hanging out and
realistically like we're, we're old man, we, we don't stay up
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late normally. So they were talking about it
wasn't supposed to start until like 10.
I'm like, Oh my God, we walked the carpet at like 6.
I was like, I'm ready. And then so there was a, a,
quite a few others that were similar, like they wanted to
walk the red carpet, but they weren't really going for the
show. And so Jasmine got the idea to
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go ahead and why don't we set upan orgy.
And of course, I, I hadn't had one yet on camera.
So we started like she started like planning it out and setting
up the folk. So like we had, we had shot a
great, great scene. She really cracked the whip and
kept us all in line, kind of like the and then we get ready
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to shoot. And it was, I don't know that it
could have gone better or that like it was, it was just pure
luck or whatever. Like everybody just clicked so
well that like we knew what to do without having to say
anything, without having to stopall the time.
You know, everybody kind of liketransition from different to to
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different performers. And you know, there was not like
just anybody that just focused directly on two people or
whatever. Like it was, it was great.
It was Thor Johnson, Kyle Starr and me as the male talent.
And then the women were Jasmine Rebel, Scarlet Rebel.
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She's a newer performer. She's out California way and
she's doing some amazing things.Imani Valor, I think that's how
you say your name. And Raven and Raven, sweet
little Raven. And it was, it was a great,
great scene. A lot of fun, some antics.
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It was. It was outstanding.
Yeah, And I think everybody got equal attention.
I think everyone flowed. There wasn't like, Oh my God,
you're all over him or all over her.
Everybody came alone. Yeah, it was like a flow of
world. The camera girl, she was also a
talent. Yeah.
Oh God Dang it. What is her name?
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She's out of Boston, living out in LA now.
Skinny girl. She shot for blast a couple of
Times Now. Rose Carter.
Rose Carter. Yeah.
So she she was, she was like, well, I, I can't, I she's like,
my, my girl needs a break. So I, I really can't do anymore
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fucking on camera right now. She was like, how about I hold,
I run camera. I'm tired, I feel y'all.
So, and it was funny, we actually incorporated her into
the the video a little bit just her hand and she borrowed this
cute little outfit because she was cold.
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So Scarlet rebel gave her this like Bunny costume thing that
had like little fluffy balls hanging off.
So she would like started like hitting just playing with the
girl's nipples and stuff. And so she was like, she's the
fluffer. But so like just a couple of
times on the camera, like her hand would kind of just show up.
There was one part of the scene where I was like I passed her
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the I gave her the phone and I was like, call room service, get
us some more waters. Now, granted she didn't realize
that I was just trying to like Ithought it was she was like,
really? And I'm like, so I'm like, I, I
told her to go to, you know, order some room service, get
some waters up there. And then I grab her head and I
just like jamming on my Dick andI'm just like face fucking her
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while she's like trying to orderroom service.
And so then I was like, but in the in the moment I'm just like,
OK, well, this isn't, this isn'treally working as as well as I
thought it was. So I was like, we're good.
And I slammed the phone down. I thought I hung it up, but I
didn't, I guess hang it up properly.
So we get back to we go back to fucking and stuff, and then all
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of a sudden, I guess Rose had heard the, you know, the phone
offline thing. The SO she walks over with the
camera, goes over to the phone, reaches over, hangs up the phone
and then gives a little thumbs up and then goes back to
filming. Nothing like an orgy with
personality, yeah? Everybody had a good old time.
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So yeah, it was, it was fantastic.
Oh my God, yeah. Because I, I, I feel you,
though, because if they would have told me that there was a
10:00, I, if they, they, they want to call me if I want it,
I'd be a doctor in the room witha butt.
I'm very. Yeah, yeah.
Look, Oh my goodness. Yeah, yeah.
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I'll tell you that when the conventions are in like we try
to, we try to stretch ourselves a little bit more because, you
know, there's, there's only, youonly have like a limited amount
of time that you're with in the area of that many people.
But at the same time, it's like,look, well, I'd rather, you
know, we're, we're mourning people anyways.
So we try to get more of our shoots in during the morning and
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daytime, do the convention, and then kind of like cool down
afterward because that we both have anxiety issues.
So like we have to decompress typically at the end of a
convention day. Yeah, that's a lot.
Yeah, but I tell you, I do got to, I do got to share some
really awesome news with you, man.
(37:46):
We are. We are ambassadors now for me,
for you. AI was wondering what?
That was. Yeah, it's this new platform
with where they generate an AI clone of you.
And so our fans can interact with our clone where like 24/7
(38:09):
access. So even though you may not be
able to talk to us directly, they capture our personalities
so well that it's it's almost, it is just like talking to us.
It also allows them to generate content, photos and stuff what
they want to see of us, but likethey can say I want to.
(38:29):
Fish wear on the horse. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That was me on the horse. Yeah.
And the polar bear and ice. You're the one I create.
I did. I was like, I started playing
around with it. So they'll give you the premium
access for your own, for your own account.
So like you can go on and generate your own things.
So I was like playing around with it.
And it's like, I I want to see aphoto of Jasmine in a sexy ice
(38:54):
skater outfit with a polar bear.And so it has her on the ice in
a outfit with skates in a arena,and there's a polar bear right
next to her on ice skates itself.
I saw that picture too. Yeah.
Oh shit I'm like where is this? How did y'all hook up with them?
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We met them actually at ABN Nikki Huntsman.
She is so she's another one that's like just been a
tremendous friend and, and just someone that like always pumps
us up and convinces us that Elsa's network and stuff.
And Nikki doesn't take no for ananswer.
Like they were having a a party in one of the hotel rooms.
They texted, she texted us. She's like, you need to come to
(39:39):
this party right now and meet these people.
I'm like, I'm like, you know, it's girl, it's late.
You know, we're we're ready to go to bed.
She's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you're coming now.
Meet me at this room. So that's how we got to
introduce them, how we got introduced to them.
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We were doing some little mini interviews.
That episode just went live, allof the little mini interviews
that we were doing at AVN. And so that was where we kind of
started that relationship and then.
They invited us to work their booth at Chicago Exotica and I
guess they they liked us. So they want us to to be more,
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to be at all of them, with them.Yeah, we pretty much worked
hard. We actually brought a lot of our
friends to the booth. Like seriously, we were all
walking, meeting and greeting and we're like, come on over to
the booth and all of a sudden wegot photos with our friends too.
I'm like, you want a photo with us?
OK, come to the booth, make yourown and customize your own photo
as a clone. So that's where our little spiel
(40:42):
came through. So.
And see, it was easy is that this is where I talk about the
advantage of being a sex symbol,ladies and gentlemen.
It opens up doors outside of porn if you know how to market
your sex symbolness. Yes.
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And you got it like that's we'renot going to be able to do this
forever. I mean, we would love to.
I like my my life goal is to have to create a a porn star
retirement community in Florida with atts test site on the
property, like some webcam rooms.
So like even in our, you know, golden age with, you know,
(41:25):
sixties, 70s, whatever, 80s evenI don't care.
We'll like be there to just continue to be horn dogs and
then even shoot content if we want it.
That's that's that's. My I mean this.
This business can be timeless. Yeah.
And it's been proven because especially now that we love, we
(41:46):
love Milfs and gifts. We love Milfs and gifts.
She was on a damn site called MILF.
MILF dot call us. It was I am.
It it's funny because see, I seeI've been doing a bunch of well,
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I already did one for the history of interracial.
I'm going to do a bunch of history stuff for my smokers
over dark. And that's one thing I'm going
to talk about is how the age, the age have gotten older in
this era compared to when I first came in because like they
said, like back when I came in 23 years and your career was
(42:30):
done now she. I know.
She you can still go with 70. Yeah.
Seeker Black and she didn't change it.
I mean, she changed her name now.
Yeah, I think. She just, oh.
My God. So now got to ask this question
(42:51):
because this is the year of the gang bang so I'm trying to think
I don't. Have you done a gangbang yet?
Yeah, yes, I have a twelve person gangbang.
It was the one with the Play Studio 6.
Guys, no, that was a that was anorgy.
Oh, it's orgy. You did a, you did a four guy.
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Gangbang. OK.
I'm like Oh my God. So she's done a four guy
gangbang. We call that gang gang bang for
my Valentine. So the story behind it is she
was down in Tampa. I had to stay home with the kids
during Valentine's Day. And so I worked it out with Mark
Blaze and I was like, we want this gang bang be a Valentine's
(43:36):
gift. So that's how we that's how we
structured it. We do, We are.
We did try to organize another one with Red Bottom Productions
this past year. It just never seemed to come to
come to fruition. It's difficult.
It's really, really difficult and we're not at a place where
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we can budget our own stuff justyet.
Like eventually we want to be able to just hire, hire other
talent, you know, limit our collaborations so that we we
hold our content, we own our content.
So that's that's the goal for the future.
So we will do, we'll definitely be doing more of those.
It's just a matter of scheduling.
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Because a lot of people realize like was that with Lily, with
Lily Phillips when she did hers and then the one she did it did
body blue. I think the one, well, the one
with the guys in the football jersey, I'm pretty sure doing
with talent. But a lot of times they do fans.
It's hard enough to get fans when you talk about porn or you
(44:43):
talking about talent. That's harder because some of
these dudes, it sounds funny as fuck.
It's scared to fuck in the same room with another dude.
Yeah. Yeah, everything is anxiety for
them. Right.
I had a problem with it, but I just understood why dudes had a
problem if you can fuck with a cameraman in the goddamn room.
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And then the other part is I don't want to touch Dicks.
Yeah. You do realize that there's a
part that she put both Dicks in the mouth?
Dog, you going, you know? We actually so we've done, we've
done more gang bangs than we thought about like so we did.
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We also did a content party lastyear with about 5.
We had five mil talents there and each of the wives who were
all like greater couples and so each of the wives got a chance
to do A to shoot a gangbang. So we did 4 gangbangs
back-to-back to back-to-back. The dudes we we didn't get much
rest in between. The girls had just the 1
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gangbang and then they went and did something else.
I had to go right back in. Oh yeah, Oh yeah, thank God for
Trimix man. Trimix don't give a fuck.
We don't get no rest as y'all can see.
Yeah, get more respect. I'm just saying.
We'll we'll get there. We'll get there, but let's we
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you know, I I'm, I'm perfectly happy with this being a a woman
driven yeah, women focus industry.
I I'm OK with just being the background.
I'll I'll be the the new versionof the WWE Divas, you know, like
I'm just the man version. You know, I'm just in the
background with my buns out and I'm, I'm used when I'm, I'm
(46:30):
needed and then away when I'm, when they're done with me.
I'm OK with that, you know. Oh yeah, guys see the girls
little we come around the fall got.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe slapping the?
Dude, I was getting tips in Chicago.
Girls were like slipping like 20s and shit in my in the thong
man dude it was. Great, not even a stripper
(46:53):
there, but you were like oh and some women were like Dang, you
got a bigger butt than my husband does.
See. See, I told you, a man with a
nice ass thing, good things happen to you.
Yeah, I get. I get.
I get a lot of compliments on mybooty.
Nice. Oh my God.
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So now just like I asked everybody, in your opinion, why
is gang bangs becoming so popular now?
And why are so many girls? Because gang bangs was probably
over the interracial very rare in the business.
You know, now it's like everydayoccurrence.
So why is gang bang the uptick in gang bang that happened in
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the business? Going to go first.
I just see it as you know, folksare just kind of following
trends I think like Lily Phillips and is it Lily Phillips
and Bonnie Blue? Are those the ones that are 1000
guy? I think like people saw that,
like they wanted that. They wanted more, more fans
(48:01):
wanted to see that stuff, you know, temp.
But I mean, Tadpole has been in business for years.
Yeah. For years and years and that's
like this primary thing is gangbangs.
He organizes them and sets them up they.
Were at the slow shot that LennyPhillips did.
They did a hundred men and RebelRider did 100 minute, had three
holes. Yeah, God, rebel, can we just
(48:24):
take a second? And just that's the fact that
Rebel Rider is just fucking amazing.
And she got that award for that reason, you know, amazing.
And of course, Ray Ray. Took three holes with a smile.
Yeah, yeah. And DP and DP.
He's done. This game playing people, she
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went damn. Rebel Rider is, is freaking
amazing. And then you know, Ray Ray of
course as well is like I've, I've actually helped shoot a
bunch of her gang bangs and someof her other stuff.
So I do a lot of, I've been learning a lot more camera work
and doing sound and stuff like that for Ray Ray's company.
And then just, that's also just been a tremendous help for me
(49:09):
bringing that back to our brand and then figuring out how we fit
into, to this part of it. So our stuff is a lot more
quality. Quantity is something that we
have to start pushing a little bit more.
But again, everything just kind of comes back to like finding
that balance and being able to do a lot of the things.
But I, I, I really just believe it's a, it's just some of the
(49:30):
trends, like, you know, somebody, it's just like, think
about like a TikTok trend, right?
Like somebody does something silly and freaking, you know,
then it goes viral and then everybody else jumps onto the
wagon. I I just think, yeah, it just,
it, it came around like every, every, every year there's
something new that like everybody starts doing.
Yeah, the last year was in DC isgang bang.
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Yeah, just the question I would have asked Miss Cruz.
Yes. What is it about a gang bang to
get the pussy wet? To me, I like to be the center
of attention. So I I like to be the center of
attention. So that's probably one thing I
fantasize, you know, you don't get to see this guy all the
time. So when you're going to like to
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do a collab, you're like, oh, this is some fresh, someone new,
something different. I'm going to try it out.
That's what really gets me going.
Oh my. God, so how's the subspace come
down? What?
The subspace come down so peoplecan understand when we saw that
viral video of Mitch Lily Phillips crying and y'all
(50:37):
thought because she was crying, because she was shamed, because
she didn't 100 men, No motherfuckers, she just did 100
men. It's called subspace come down.
Oh that because because she was crying, because she felt bad,
because so many motherfuckers didn't get to come.
I said I like her. You said someone that went
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completed, they didn't get to stay in long enough.
I just want everyone to come. So for you have to come down to
subspace with because it's a different level.
You doing a gang bang versus threesome then it.
It's a lot more and it's a lot more and it's definitely wet and
(51:27):
amazing. So I think for me that's what it
is more guys, the more more come, the more volume of come
keeps coming. So for.
The after, oh, when it's over. When it's.
Over a lot of it just comes to like we have identified, you
know, we're like I know when she's when she's getting to that
point and I just I help help manage her aftercare in that
(51:50):
respect and we talk about it andfor us, that's like part of our
like helping to recenter after. Yeah, we talked about it, which
is helpful because I'll tell himabout my adventures.
See people? There you go.
So I'm here with this wonderful couple up here and you know
we're going to bring them back. You know, I'm going to bring
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If you ever need me to come on your podcast A. 100% we need to
(54:43):
make that happen. Oh yeah, most definitely.
So smokers, what did you smoke over today?
What did you learn from this wonderful episode?
Let me tell you what you learned.
What I've been telling y'all stop with the God damn lie.
We can find love in this God damn business.
They proof. It's nothing like having
somebody that respects what you do, support what you do, and
(55:07):
even help film because see something Because we do this
business. The hardest thing is finding
someone that accepts us for who we are and respects what we do
and love us regardless. It's called unconditional love.
Some of you fuckers don't understand that and that's the
beauty of our business. See y'all vanilla motherfuckers?
(55:30):
You wonder why y'all have divorces because y'all don't
know how to have hard conversations that swing
couples, Poly couples, porn couples have to have.
You feel me at the end of the day and stop thinking that if I
let my woman get fucked, I'm weak.
No *** I'm way more stronger than you and three time more
(55:50):
secure than your dumb ass. Let's make that clear you know,
Period. Let's kill with that falsehood
about manhood because at the endof the day, our sexual tastes
change with age. In your 20s, you may not thought
about swinging, but by the time you hit your 40s, you and wife
might want to go to Hinduism. You feel me?
(56:12):
And other part of this is we talked about the gang bang
trend. Here's the key to the gang bang
trend. Do the trend because it's
something that you enjoy and youwrite.
See a lot of you ladies y'all doing it, but y'all not into
gang bangs y'all? You understand how much energy,
(56:33):
mental, physical, emotional, soulful if you put into these
things because it's chaos, controlled chaos, but chaos none
the rest. A lot of Dicks going in you in
all your hoes and you have to beone that enjoy that shit.
Welcome that shit. Get off on that shit.
(56:55):
See, because what ends up happening is that that subspace
come down ain't gonna look like lilies.
You know you're going to be thatone they're going to be sitting
here talking about. Oh, only fans messed up my life.
Porn messed me up. Get there.
The third because you tried something that wasn't you.
I'll tell anybody this. I said this to every female I
(57:17):
work with. Don't do anything you wouldn't
normally do in your personal sexlife or you're not willing to
try. Are you interested to have the
greatest discovery to try so once again?
Get on our podcast. Stay true to your journey.
Basically, and true fellas, I can tell you all this.
You know how many females secretly would love to do a
(57:38):
fucking gangbang? They just ain't got the balls to
tell you. Your wife might want to do a
gangbang. You don't even know, but she's
scared to tell you because she afraid that you might.
You might want to leave, you feel me?
Because all women, two things. They all want to be porn stars
(58:00):
and they all would like to be ravished by men.
Trust and believe that, you feelme?
So all you Barber thumpers, conservative mother fuckers,
y'all can see him looking sideways.
But we know deep in your heart you want to fuck 12 Dicks all at
the same time. You just ain't got the balls to
do it because you afraid what people don't think of.
(58:20):
You sound like a personal problem to me.
So with that being said, you know we end these things all
day, every day. Life is a learning experience.
What's the point of the experience?
You haven't learned anything. Smoke this over.
Say goodbye to him, Cruz. Hey, thank you, love.
You guys. Absolutely.
What's going on? With people, I like it.
It's good. It's good, man.
I'm just trying to. Can you hear us?
Yeah, we can. I hear you perfectly can.
Can y'all hear me? I can hear you, but she can't
for some reason. Well, I mean my smokers know how
(01:08):
it is when it comes to getting the equipment ready while
recording. Yeah, I I just had in 1-2, got
that going. Hey, hey, I Rev I I Rev this
then then freezing and and and delayed what?
(01:32):
Happened. All.
Right, because the Lord have mercy.
They should be throwing me off. I got the got they pause what
I'm saying so my words can catchup to them.
Yeah, OK, let's try that again. Can you hear now?
You. Can you hear?
Can you hear me? Yeah, I hear you.
OK, you couldn't hear jazz though.
(01:53):
Yeah, I couldn't hear jazz. No.
All right, let's try that. What about this one?
What about? Try it now I.
Don't hear it? Wait, no, I can hear her.
I can hear it now, OK. There's like 3 different Rd.
caster pro two things and one works with one and doesn't work
with the other. It's here's.
(02:14):
How you know? They're podcasters too.
But yes, Sir, because, because, because see, because see, it's
different. Because see, when I talk to
people that just pour stars, they don't go through.
Yeah, I'm, I'm the audio sounding right and then, you
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know, the aesthetic and trying to play with this damn camera.
Oh my goodness, so. And how are y'all lovely people
doing today? Doing great.
Doing well just wrapped up. I guest hosted a podcast for Ray
Ray for the Deep Thoughts podcast so.
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Oh my God, how was, how was that?
It was great. We interviewed Kyle Starr,
another close personal friend ofours.
OK. And how the podcast thing be
going because the last time I didn't talk to y'all about the
podcast. It's been a minute.
Yeah, I know. Yeah.
There's a big ABS Yeah, you. Guys and us were both nominated
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for Best of All Fighting. Oh yeah, and and shoot, man, it
it feel good to talk to somebodyelse that's nominated for ABA
right podcast. You know, I mean, we're not,
we're, we're not on pillow talkslevel yet.
I mean, it just is what it is, you know?
But I. Was like, no, I, no, I don't be
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real with you. I was shocked they won.
I thought it was going to be Adam again.
Really. I thought it was going to be
plugged off because, you know, no jumper.
He got the bigger people, you know.
Yeah, but. I mean, Ryan's been hustling
this year, man. They have some good videos I've
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saw I've I've actually congratulated him for winning.
So yeah, I. I was happy to go with somebody
other than to a talk. I'm about to say no, he can't do
it three years in a row. Come on.
Yeah. Well, then if it was like, if it
was, you know, like one of thosebig name sponsored podcasts, it
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would have been like, oh, oh, it's like that, huh?
Yeah, yeah, every. This little.
Girl, did they really do take the fan count yeah it it just
they based off of money, you know, so so I didn't feel to be
nominated as a podcast It's. It's.
You you. You were nominated for talking,
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not fucking. We're appreciated for our
personality and seeing all of this.
Oh yeah. I I was always told that I have
a face for radio, so you know, it's good to be charming and
people enjoying the the sensual sound of my voice, it makes a
(05:06):
big difference. Oh yeah.
Oh yeah, oh, yeah, oh, yeah. Because I don't care if nobody
say you got to have a sexy voice.
You do this shit. A voice that people want to
listen to because they don't want no voice.
They just be irritating you. Be like why is he talking?
Right. Man, I'll tell you what, I and
Congrats to you. I noticed you're moving up in
the technology and stuff. We're on the Green Yard now.
(05:29):
We were on Skype the last time we talked and it was always like
wasn't always, we weren't alwaysable to hear you good.
So it was like it would be, you know, we just might match if you
were laughing. We started laughing.
Oh yeah, that was crazy. Skype ain't even an existing no
more than that is I think some some meta chat Google chat or
(05:52):
something. I was like well damn, I bet I
did switch the stream y'all, butstream y'all is way better
because I can pull up stuff and and oh God, I boy, y'all need to
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when I'd be showing them when they'd be sucking Dick.
Yeah, yeah. I can't do that for this podcast
though, no. No, no, not for this one.
No, Spotify will fucking flag the fuck out of me.
Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, that'll I can
imagine. Oh my goodness, let me get this
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Thank you, that was one hell of an introduction.
Let me tell you. I try to get everybody a good
thing. So now opening the podcast,
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because that was because a lot of times I don't know what the
hell I'm going to talk about when I come on here, but then I
go look at that page and I know this.
You make fitness a part of your brand.
I sure do. You know, and how did fitness
fits in? Well, for me, I've always, I've
(09:55):
loved fitness. I've been bodybuilding since
2012, you know, competitions, I've done lifting competitions
from women competition. I think it's in my blood to
enjoy fitness and and I think it's also part of in this
industry, you need, you know, good stamina, good flexibility.
And I get mental health and physical health go hand in hand.
(10:18):
So I think this is something that for me, for my mental
health, I need to go to the gym.I think if I don't go to the
gym, I don't my mind is not set right.
So it just gets me going, gets my brain cells going and it just
puts me in a better mood. Like, yeah, what you about
saying it doesn't. It puts me in a better mood
(10:38):
physically and emotionally. So.
From the gym. Randy as hell too.
Oh, I didn't believe it because see the reason why I asked that?
Because like I said, we're goingto have a page.
You see a lot of the, you know, the posing, showing the muscles
and the whole 9. And when did that?
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When did you decide I need to implement more of that those
type pics, the fitness showing that I work out a part of you
know what I'm saying? Because sometimes.
Yeah, we. Try to, but we we try to, even
though we do porn it we we kind of try to market ourselves to
things that might be outside. Yeah, I, I think, yeah, I think
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for my quote that I always says I'm more than just a pretty face
because if you see me in a dressand just looking at me, you're
like, oh, you know, you don't look like you were before in the
competition. I'm like, that's a competition
where you have to train your body look like that.
But your strength and your stamina and your build does not
change because you throughout the years, if you maintain it,
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your strength is still going to stay the same as long as you're
not, you know, don't make your muscles atrophy.
For me, it's just part of my life.
And I know that if I incorporateit more in my social media, I
think people are noticing it andI kind of I kind of like it
because before I didn't utilize it as much, but now I'm getting
(12:08):
more, I guess following because of it.
So like I really like it and it just.
Needs brothers. It comes with it.
It's an actual fitness fetish. Raised and gentleman.
Yes, it is. It's a fetish.
Fun. Yeah.
Physique, yeah, the the, you know, the, the fitness right
(12:29):
there. They don't pay to watch a girl
workout. Butt ass naked, squat 500 lbs
butt ass naked. I'm just being honest.
So for you, when did you discover the fetish side of it
and how much you take advantage of that?
Oh, OK, I I went to the fetish convention in Florida and a lot
of my friends were telling me, how come you don't like be more
(12:50):
of this muscle worship or don't you lift people?
You could. I just did it for fun.
And I said, you know, you could get paid to do it and the lift
people and arm wrestle and flex.And then, you know, Jr. here was
like, hey, you know, he's the real competitive wrestler.
And then he was like, well, I'veseen some hot women do it.
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And I'm not, I'm just a beginner, OK?
I'm not as great as him. He's really did.
He's a real 1. He's been training you, huh?
Yeah, he's been coaching. You, he was coaching me and he
got me some paid shoots. So, you know, he really, I, I
told him I'm a little bit intimidated because when you're
teenagers and your husband do itand they're all competitive
(13:32):
wrestlers and I'm just looking pretty lifting weights, It's,
it's kind of like, man, I need to really challenge my brain and
stop holding myself back. And I, he motivated me to do it.
And I in my beginning videos from years ago, it's a big
progression because I was so scared to even do a scissor
hold. Excuse me, Jiu jitsu, right?
(14:00):
You know how to talk? Yeah.
We're good through it. Yeah, yeah, we're working on it.
So like, you know how there's those Dance Moms, you know, when
they're like on the sidelines where out of out of camera shot
and they're like dance, dance. OK, smile, smile.
Well, that's me in the in the background.
I'm like on my legs up. Like get him in, get him in
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there, lock it in. Yeah.
Turn, turn. I can imagine the conversation.
You get twist your hips enough. You get twist your hips.
This is the real coach so. One of the things that we're
looking at, we're actually goingto be starting this year as far
(14:43):
as like fitness and wrestling and stuff is we're we're going
to be partnering up with women of Sparta slash Pompey erotic
out there in Cali and we're going to be.
Teaming up with him to do. Kind of like his East Coast
studio so that he can so that hecan reach out to to more models
that don't travel all the way over there as much.
(15:05):
We have a location here that we can bring him to that it's still
all of his content. We just kind of help run it.
I'll run the camera. I help with the coordination,
the choreography and things likethat.
Now it was funny because I can'tthink, damn, I can't think of
the girl name off hand her and Iwas trying to get Nadia White
(15:30):
because I know Nadia White actually do professional
wrestling, which is so fucking cool.
Yeah. And she actually damn good.
I had to watch my back of this shit, you know, But I noticed,
see, not only has it been a risein well now has this been the
year of the gang bang. I noticed low key, this been the
(15:50):
year of wrestling, female wrestling organizations popping
up. Oh, OK.
And because because it's like I'm starting to see more of that
now. You know what I'm saying?
Of course, you know Laura Cross,I've seen you and other ones.
What is been the in your opinion, why is that now
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becoming forefront is now starting to grow?
Well, I think that it's empowering to see women be
stronger and you know, before, just like WWE, we used to
transition just a male sport, male driven and now females
being strong and being able to do and withstands much kind of,
(16:31):
you know, I guess techniques like that.
I think it's being bigger because number one, it's fun.
It's pretty hot too, to see a hot woman in hot outfit, like
taking down someone. I don't know, it's something,
you know, like you said, it's a fetish.
So I think it's because it's getting bigger and I I'm glad
for it too. Is before it.
(16:53):
I think I was saying different leaves and shit and they have to
mix wrestling and even with someof it.
Sex don't. It don't end in sex.
You know. Yeah.
You know, let me ask you this. Do you think, do you think it
works better if we don't end in sex or it works better if it
ends in sex? I think you can mix between the
two. You're like one day you want it
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and sometimes you don't. Maybe it's like it doesn't have
to end it, but you can make it creative to make it end without
it and then make them Part 2. Like how about what it looks
like with the sex? And also in the market, like
some some people with those the fetish like wrestling fetishes
(17:34):
and stuff like the sex isn't, isn't part of their kink for
them. It is just that I think a lot of
it just especially with like thepro wrestling side of the house.
I mean, look at where the WWE isnow with women's wrestling
compared to say the attitude eraand before, like women were just
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like the window dressing like there was no they, they're,
they're taking women seriously and and it's amazing to see
because they can do some incredible freaking stunts and
incredible tricks and strength that like what's her name, Ria
Ripley now, just like bench press and you know, military
press people you have that she'sdoing the razor's edge.
(18:16):
I mean the razor's edge. It's amazing you.
See, what's crazy is because I'ma, well, one, the fans know I'm
a huge wrestling fan. I've restarted my podcast and
I've seen from looking at the Indies, the women, it's OK, they
just keep it 100. The women are better looking and
they're better wrestlers now. So yeah, they ain't even a joke
(18:37):
because I was just sitting therewatching the NWAI was like,
damn, did this. Even at the lower level.
The women are going good. And I went to what was it a
independent show, Deadlock Pro, which I planned to go to the
next one. The main event was for the
women's title and it was a fucking chain match.
People of the females was fine as shit.
I said damn it and it was brutal.
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Now I'm like you, a woman with the chain.
I said damn. But but to me, it's like with
wrestling is like to me, if a female has physique that in my
opinion should be a face that you're looking to because even
to the point that even if it's not them actually wrestling,
(19:21):
it's just even on the meet and greet side of things, you have
fans that just want you to ball them up, put them in a leg lock
and stuff like that. Or where have you?
So with you, have you thought about doing wrestling is content
to put out for yourself? Oh, I've already done wrestling
for content for the last two years already, so I.
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Don't want though we're we're going to start ramping that up.
More. We've done a little for me, a
little bit, but he's done more than me.
But now that I'm getting used tohim helping me out with the
positions and stuff, I'm going to continue to do more.
And I think, I think guys are loving it.
I mean, I went to Exotica. I got paid to put people in
headlock and wrestled them. I was like, what's going on?
(20:08):
They were like, I don't want a photo, more like put me in
headlock. I was like, hey, it's something
different. I actually liked it, so I said
it's different. I've never put anyone in a
headlock at a convention until Exotica.
And I've been to Like ventions since two years ago, so that was
really fun to see that. Yeah, because it's because, like
(20:30):
you said, to see a beautiful woman that is strong and can
move a guy like that or even wrestle with each other, you
know, even if you brought with only mother take this shit
seriously. Like they have belts.
I was like, oh. Yeah.
Yeah, you got no belt. Why not?
Oh my God. So now I'm ask you this, how
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does the fans react to your wrestling content versus the
XXX? Well, I think they're actually
loving it. I mean, to me it's something
different because I've done porna lot more, but it feels very,
it motivates me to do more wrestling moves because now that
(21:13):
they're respecting me for my strength.
Before I was like, oh, everyone sees me doing porn, but I kind
of like to mix it up, you know, not always doing that all the
time, but adding wrestling is a challenge for me.
And I think a lot more followersare actually appreciating it and
saying, did you do this? Could you do that?
Would you put that person in a move?
(21:33):
Could you work with this person?I'm going, wow, I'm getting more
requests than ever. And I love it because I, like I
said, I was afraid to come out and it but wasn't for Jr. here.
It gave me those lessons and that motivation.
I don't, I don't think I'd be doing it because I told him I'm,
I'm nervous and he's trying to help me overcome my, my anxiety
(21:53):
and nervous because I, I can lift whatever.
But when it comes to wrestling, you got to use a lot of brain
work because your body has to learn how to safely turn someone
and you have to make yourself safe enough to get wrestle
someone else as well. I mean, it's entertainment, but
you can get hurt even though you're in.
People safety is key when you'redoing a lot of this type of
stuff. So we're, we're starting to try
(22:16):
to build up an archive before wereally start to release too, too
much. And it's just because like, if
you throw something out there and then the fans really, really
like it, They're like, where's the next one?
Well, you know, we're kind of balancing a bunch of other
stuff. You know, we've got the podcast,
we've got all of our porn stuff.So like really just finding that
balance and and building up thatarchive before we really start
(22:39):
releasing more of them is kind of where we're going.
But she did just recently do herfirst scene for Evolved Fights
with Ray Ray. Yeah, we did.
As an opponent. Yes.
That was, I've been seeing somebody shit.
I was Jasmine Cruz and Filipina flamethrower.
(23:03):
Yes. Well, the joke is, well, I love
flamethrower at Burger King, butI also think he thought of the
name Dairy Queen Flamethrower. Oh, I thought it was Burger
King. Oh, oh, it's Dairy Queen is a
flamethrower. I think you're doing like I'm
hot, passionate, you know, I'm fire fierce.
But then I like food and I like meat, if you know what I mean.
Oh yes, she didn't go to meat. You see what she.
(23:26):
Think it could be PEG or it could be triple F.
There's no middle with her either, it's either PG.
Or. Triple X like. 2 extremes.
That's a good thing because, youknow, hey, she's not boring.
That is 100% true. It's always an adventure, right?
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There is never a boring moment with Jasmine Cruz.
Oh my God, so y'all seem like a couple that's always looking to
expand your brand, find new lands to conquer and stuff of
that nature. How do you fight complacency?
Because the one thing that I will tell people, one thing, a
(24:07):
business owner will never be as comfortable.
We have to learn to be comfortable with being
uncomfortable. So how do you fight this?
You know, complacency, especially with things going
good. I would say we are surrounded by
a great support system. I would say Ray, Ray and and and
Jay, we've got Mr. J and Daisy Fox to support us in.
(24:32):
Chief fetish? Chief fetish Also there's Kyle
balls Kyle star really motivating positive people who
we've been surrounded with. There's Peter Fitzwell, 9 Fox.
So people that's been in it giving us a positive
reinforcement to say, hey, it can be hard, it can be
challenging, it could be years of hard work.
But in the end result is people are going to notice it and your
(24:55):
fans are going to notice it and friends are going to notice it.
And it really, really humbles meto know that, you know, where I
when I first started and nobody bought my my merchandise like
two or three years ago, No one. OK, but I say this story because
I went to LA Xbiz and I went to Exotica, I went to ABN and all
(25:19):
three of those events I actuallysold merchandise for the first
time in three years. So talk about like in tears
telling my husband no one wantedto buy my stuff or never knew
me, but it's OK. Like he said, they're going to
know you would be put in the hard work.
And honestly, after three or four years, people are seeing
(25:40):
it. And I want to thank the fans out
there. If they're listening, they got
photos, videos, they've bought stuff and it and they know
they're sexy buns now because ofour our branding.
So something must be working. I mean, we're not a big famous
people, but it feels good that someone's noticing us and buying
our stuff. I was.
(26:01):
Going to say one of the things that that helps us to not get
complacent right now is that, you know, we're still not
relatively famous. You know, we're not new, but
we're not, you know, like superstars.
So we're still, we still got to hustle, you know, we got, we got
bills to to pay. We've got kids getting ready to
going to college like we have got to keep hustling and
(26:21):
fortunately that's been that's been in green with us for years
and years. So really it's stuff like that
that kind of keeps us from getting complacent, but we also
do try to make sure that we listen to our bodies, we listen
to our kids, we take breaks, youknow, and we really make sure
that we prioritize us, ourselvesand our well-being over over the
(26:43):
business. So we.
The commentary was funny. See, I talk about this all the
time on my podcast. The one thing that I know is
we're dealing with women when I was dealing with them because
they lack patience. And it's interesting what she
just said because most females after that moment that she
couldn't sell shit with a damn. They probably quit the business
(27:05):
and, and, and, and a lot of timethese ladies as well as fellas,
ladies more so than fellas. Not knocking women, but because
it's easy for them to make the money, they expect it to come.
Instantly, yeah. So for you, how hard was it to
learn patience? I think for me, I've I've always
(27:26):
been patient, especially really.I want to hear the answer to
this one. I've been patient.
I I can lose my patience, yes, But I think for me, we can bump
heads because I know he knows. Because I used to cry about it.
I was like, oh, nobody likes me,nobody wants this.
(27:50):
And he goes, it's going to take time.
And I'm like, how much time is there?
You know, because I'm putting myself out there in social
media, I'm dancing, I'm moving, I'm modeling, I'm wrestling, I'm
doing all this fetish work. But he said, but remember, you
got to stand out and show your personality something that makes
you stand out from the rest because everyone's doing it.
(28:13):
And what can you make you different from the rest?
And that's what kept me going because when Jr. said doesn't
mean they don't like you, it's just it's just a whole lot of
people are in porn, a lot of people are doing fetish.
But you need to get your audience and get them the right
way. And like he said, I think
(28:33):
getting to know who I am and being myself because I told him
I'm like, maybe I should do whatshe's doing.
But what they're doing on socialmedia, he's like, no, I think
brand yourself of who you are. And if you wear a dress and
sandals, say that in an interview.
Don't lie. Because before I was like, well,
I really, yeah, I don't wear underwear.
Wait, wait. I do wear underwear when I
(28:53):
sleep, you know. She tried to do she initially
she you know, she wanted to do the boilerplate, you know,
Playboy interview style answers,you know, like I really enjoy
sleeping. Yeah, but I'm walking on a.
Beach. Oh no, they they.
All of this. When they talk, when people talk
about authentic, what they want is not the point.
(29:14):
They talk about authentic. They talk about the person
that's in the beach. Yeah, that what we don't get
because he's the person that brings it out.
It's no different than why do everybody love Jenna Jameson?
The personality she put on camera when she was filming it,
It it from the what she from thescene beginning the scene when
she talking to when she was fucking.
(29:35):
And people like a female that enjoy being a slack, they enjoy
being fucked, they enjoy having sex and they want to see that
also on social media side of things, you know, period.
Because even to the point where like every time you see a truck,
(29:55):
even when she poses, it's a smile always.
I'm always smiling. Sometimes I feel like I think
other people should smile more because they just hiding it with
me. It's deep down inside.
I'm like, man, people ask me, are you really happy?
All this, all day, all night? Honestly, yeah, I really am.
(30:19):
I guess I've always been a positive person in my family.
They are has been positive, but I think it's within us.
But I mean, there are days when I'm down, but I don't let that
get to me. Before I was like, oh, I'm going
to be down. And then I'm like, whatever,
I'll just go to the gym or I'll just you know, something to AR,
if you know what I mean. Play with his Dick or something.
(30:42):
Oh, you know. Oh, I mean, playing with his
Dick. Isn't talking going to like
playing playing, playing with his Dick?
She's she's the. Queen of overcorrection, man,
like I, I can if if I'm trying to like, you know, these are
they they pick up noise, but it has to be like in their general
direction. You start to talk off like then
(31:05):
the IT doesn't pick up the noiseas well.
And so when I'm just like, no, no, no, just angle at the
camera, she's like, that means Ineed to get back up here and
talk like that. I'm like.
No, yeah, that's as close as I want to suck your Dick like
this. Y'all got to check out their
podcast. Y'all need to check out their
(31:25):
podcast because I can imagine what they, I can tell you right
now, they really cut up on theseshoes.
Oh my God. So, so now tell me about ABN's.
How was your ABN trip? What shoots do you do and all
that good stuff. We actually did our very big
huge seven person orgy that was orchestrated and organized by
(31:49):
me. I was surprised they are.
I got all the women together andall the men, all took towers in
single file, all the paperwork. Let's start from the.
Beginning. Oh yeah, yeah.
Let's start from the beginning. OK, Go ahead.
So we're at the red carpet, we're hanging out and
realistically like we're, we're old man, we, we don't stay up
(32:10):
late normally. So they were talking about it
wasn't supposed to start until like 10.
I'm like, Oh my God, we walked the carpet at like 6.
I was like, I'm ready. And then so there was a, a,
quite a few others that were similar, like they wanted to
walk the red carpet, but they weren't really going for the
show. And so Jasmine got the idea to
(32:31):
go ahead and why don't we set upan orgy.
And of course, I, I hadn't had one yet on camera.
So we started like she started like planning it out and setting
up the folk. So like we had, we had shot a
great, great scene. She really cracked the whip and
kept us all in line, kind of like the and then we get ready
(32:56):
to shoot. And it was, I don't know that it
could have gone better or that like it was, it was just pure
luck or whatever. Like everybody just clicked so
well that like we knew what to do without having to say
anything, without having to stopall the time.
You know, everybody kind of liketransition from different to to
(33:16):
different performers. And you know, there was not like
just anybody that just focused directly on two people or
whatever. Like it was, it was great.
It was Thor Johnson, Kyle Starr and me as the male talent.
And then the women were Jasmine Rebel, Scarlet Rebel.
(33:38):
She's a newer performer. She's out California way and
she's doing some amazing things.Imani Valor, I think that's how
you say your name. And Raven and Raven, sweet
little Raven. And it was, it was a great,
great scene. A lot of fun, some antics.
(34:00):
It was. It was outstanding.
Yeah, And I think everybody got equal attention.
I think everyone flowed. There wasn't like, Oh my God,
you're all over him or all over her.
Everybody came alone. Yeah, it was like a flow of
world. The camera girl, she was also a
talent. Yeah.
Oh God Dang it. What is her name?
(34:23):
She's out of Boston, living out in LA now.
Skinny girl. She shot for blast a couple of
Times Now. Rose Carter.
Rose Carter. Yeah.
So she she was, she was like, well, I, I can't, I she's like,
my, my girl needs a break. So I, I really can't do anymore
(34:43):
fucking on camera right now. She was like, how about I hold,
I run camera. I'm tired, I feel y'all.
So, and it was funny, we actually incorporated her into
the the video a little bit just her hand and she borrowed this
cute little outfit because she was cold.
(35:04):
So Scarlet rebel gave her this like Bunny costume thing that
had like little fluffy balls hanging off.
So she would like started like hitting just playing with the
girl's nipples and stuff. And so she was like, she's the
fluffer. But so like just a couple of
times on the camera, like her hand would kind of just show up.
There was one part of the scene where I was like I passed her
(35:28):
the I gave her the phone and I was like, call room service, get
us some more waters. Now, granted she didn't realize
that I was just trying to like Ithought it was she was like,
really? And I'm like, so I'm like, I, I
told her to go to, you know, order some room service, get
some waters up there. And then I grab her head and I
just like jamming on my Dick andI'm just like face fucking her
(35:51):
while she's like trying to orderroom service.
And so then I was like, but in the in the moment I'm just like,
OK, well, this isn't, this isn'treally working as as well as I
thought it was. So I was like, we're good.
And I slammed the phone down. I thought I hung it up, but I
didn't, I guess hang it up properly.
So we get back to we go back to fucking and stuff, and then all
(36:13):
of a sudden, I guess Rose had heard the, you know, the phone
offline thing. The SO she walks over with the
camera, goes over to the phone, reaches over, hangs up the phone
and then gives a little thumbs up and then goes back to
filming. Nothing like an orgy with
personality, yeah? Everybody had a good old time.
(36:37):
So yeah, it was, it was fantastic.
Oh my God, yeah. Because I, I, I feel you,
though, because if they would have told me that there was a
10:00, I, if they, they, they want to call me if I want it,
I'd be a doctor in the room witha butt.
I'm very. Yeah, yeah.
Look, Oh my goodness. Yeah, yeah.
(37:02):
I'll tell you that when the conventions are in like we try
to, we try to stretch ourselves a little bit more because, you
know, there's, there's only, youonly have like a limited amount
of time that you're with in the area of that many people.
But at the same time, it's like,look, well, I'd rather, you
know, we're, we're mourning people anyways.
So we try to get more of our shoots in during the morning and
(37:24):
daytime, do the convention, and then kind of like cool down
afterward because that we both have anxiety issues.
So like we have to decompress typically at the end of a
convention day. Yeah, that's a lot.
Yeah, but I tell you, I do got to, I do got to share some
really awesome news with you, man.
(37:46):
We are. We are ambassadors now for me,
for you. AI was wondering what?
That was. Yeah, it's this new platform
with where they generate an AI clone of you.
And so our fans can interact with our clone where like 24/7
(38:09):
access. So even though you may not be
able to talk to us directly, they capture our personalities
so well that it's it's almost, it is just like talking to us.
It also allows them to generate content, photos and stuff what
they want to see of us, but likethey can say I want to.
(38:29):
Fish wear on the horse. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That was me on the horse. Yeah.
And the polar bear and ice. You're the one I create.
I did. I was like, I started playing
around with it. So they'll give you the premium
access for your own, for your own account.
So like you can go on and generate your own things.
So I was like playing around with it.
And it's like, I I want to see aphoto of Jasmine in a sexy ice
(38:54):
skater outfit with a polar bear.And so it has her on the ice in
a outfit with skates in a arena,and there's a polar bear right
next to her on ice skates itself.
I saw that picture too. Yeah.
Oh shit I'm like where is this? How did y'all hook up with them?
(39:17):
We met them actually at ABN Nikki Huntsman.
She is so she's another one that's like just been a
tremendous friend and, and just someone that like always pumps
us up and convinces us that Elsa's network and stuff.
And Nikki doesn't take no for ananswer.
Like they were having a a party in one of the hotel rooms.
They texted, she texted us. She's like, you need to come to
(39:39):
this party right now and meet these people.
I'm like, I'm like, you know, it's girl, it's late.
You know, we're we're ready to go to bed.
She's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you're coming now.
Meet me at this room. So that's how we got to
introduce them, how we got introduced to them.
(39:59):
We were doing some little mini interviews.
That episode just went live, allof the little mini interviews
that we were doing at AVN. And so that was where we kind of
started that relationship and then.
They invited us to work their booth at Chicago Exotica and I
guess they they liked us. So they want us to to be more,
(40:20):
to be at all of them, with them.Yeah, we pretty much worked
hard. We actually brought a lot of our
friends to the booth. Like seriously, we were all
walking, meeting and greeting and we're like, come on over to
the booth and all of a sudden wegot photos with our friends too.
I'm like, you want a photo with us?
OK, come to the booth, make yourown and customize your own photo
as a clone. So that's where our little spiel
(40:42):
came through. So.
And see, it was easy is that this is where I talk about the
advantage of being a sex symbol,ladies and gentlemen.
It opens up doors outside of porn if you know how to market
your sex symbolness. Yes.
(41:02):
And you got it like that's we'renot going to be able to do this
forever. I mean, we would love to.
I like my my life goal is to have to create a a porn star
retirement community in Florida with atts test site on the
property, like some webcam rooms.
So like even in our, you know, golden age with, you know,
(41:25):
sixties, 70s, whatever, 80s evenI don't care.
We'll like be there to just continue to be horn dogs and
then even shoot content if we want it.
That's that's that's. My I mean this.
This business can be timeless. Yeah.
And it's been proven because especially now that we love, we
(41:46):
love Milfs and gifts. We love Milfs and gifts.
She was on a damn site called MILF.
MILF dot call us. It was I am.
It it's funny because see, I seeI've been doing a bunch of well,
(42:09):
I already did one for the history of interracial.
I'm going to do a bunch of history stuff for my smokers
over dark. And that's one thing I'm going
to talk about is how the age, the age have gotten older in
this era compared to when I first came in because like they
said, like back when I came in 23 years and your career was
(42:30):
done now she. I know.
She you can still go with 70. Yeah.
Seeker Black and she didn't change it.
I mean, she changed her name now.
Yeah, I think. She just, oh.
My God. So now got to ask this question
(42:51):
because this is the year of the gang bang so I'm trying to think
I don't. Have you done a gangbang yet?
Yeah, yes, I have a twelve person gangbang.
It was the one with the Play Studio 6.
Guys, no, that was a that was anorgy.
Oh, it's orgy. You did a, you did a four guy.
(43:12):
Gangbang. OK.
I'm like Oh my God. So she's done a four guy
gangbang. We call that gang gang bang for
my Valentine. So the story behind it is she
was down in Tampa. I had to stay home with the kids
during Valentine's Day. And so I worked it out with Mark
Blaze and I was like, we want this gang bang be a Valentine's
(43:36):
gift. So that's how we that's how we
structured it. We do, We are.
We did try to organize another one with Red Bottom Productions
this past year. It just never seemed to come to
come to fruition. It's difficult.
It's really, really difficult and we're not at a place where
(44:01):
we can budget our own stuff justyet.
Like eventually we want to be able to just hire, hire other
talent, you know, limit our collaborations so that we we
hold our content, we own our content.
So that's that's the goal for the future.
So we will do, we'll definitely be doing more of those.
It's just a matter of scheduling.
(44:22):
Because a lot of people realize like was that with Lily, with
Lily Phillips when she did hers and then the one she did it did
body blue. I think the one, well, the one
with the guys in the football jersey, I'm pretty sure doing
with talent. But a lot of times they do fans.
It's hard enough to get fans when you talk about porn or you
(44:43):
talking about talent. That's harder because some of
these dudes, it sounds funny as fuck.
It's scared to fuck in the same room with another dude.
Yeah. Yeah, everything is anxiety for
them. Right.
I had a problem with it, but I just understood why dudes had a
problem if you can fuck with a cameraman in the goddamn room.
(45:07):
And then the other part is I don't want to touch Dicks.
Yeah. You do realize that there's a
part that she put both Dicks in the mouth?
Dog, you going, you know? We actually so we've done, we've
done more gang bangs than we thought about like so we did.
(45:27):
We also did a content party lastyear with about 5.
We had five mil talents there and each of the wives who were
all like greater couples and so each of the wives got a chance
to do A to shoot a gangbang. So we did 4 gangbangs
back-to-back to back-to-back. The dudes we we didn't get much
rest in between. The girls had just the 1
(45:48):
gangbang and then they went and did something else.
I had to go right back in. Oh yeah, Oh yeah, thank God for
Trimix man. Trimix don't give a fuck.
We don't get no rest as y'all can see.
Yeah, get more respect. I'm just saying.
We'll we'll get there. We'll get there, but let's we
(46:09):
you know, I I'm, I'm perfectly happy with this being a a woman
driven yeah, women focus industry.
I I'm OK with just being the background.
I'll I'll be the the new versionof the WWE Divas, you know, like
I'm just the man version. You know, I'm just in the
background with my buns out and I'm, I'm used when I'm, I'm
(46:30):
needed and then away when I'm, when they're done with me.
I'm OK with that, you know. Oh yeah, guys see the girls
little we come around the fall got.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe slapping the?
Dude, I was getting tips in Chicago.
Girls were like slipping like 20s and shit in my in the thong
man dude it was. Great, not even a stripper
(46:53):
there, but you were like oh and some women were like Dang, you
got a bigger butt than my husband does.
See. See, I told you, a man with a
nice ass thing, good things happen to you.
Yeah, I get. I get.
I get a lot of compliments on mybooty.
Nice. Oh my God.
(47:17):
So now just like I asked everybody, in your opinion, why
is gang bangs becoming so popular now?
And why are so many girls? Because gang bangs was probably
over the interracial very rare in the business.
You know, now it's like everydayoccurrence.
So why is gang bang the uptick in gang bang that happened in
(47:38):
the business? Going to go first.
I just see it as you know, folksare just kind of following
trends I think like Lily Phillips and is it Lily Phillips
and Bonnie Blue? Are those the ones that are 1000
guy? I think like people saw that,
like they wanted that. They wanted more, more fans
(48:01):
wanted to see that stuff, you know, temp.
But I mean, Tadpole has been in business for years.
Yeah. For years and years and that's
like this primary thing is gangbangs.
He organizes them and sets them up they.
Were at the slow shot that LennyPhillips did.
They did a hundred men and RebelRider did 100 minute, had three
holes. Yeah, God, rebel, can we just
(48:24):
take a second? And just that's the fact that
Rebel Rider is just fucking amazing.
And she got that award for that reason, you know, amazing.
And of course, Ray Ray. Took three holes with a smile.
Yeah, yeah. And DP and DP.
He's done. This game playing people, she
(48:46):
went damn. Rebel Rider is, is freaking
amazing. And then you know, Ray Ray of
course as well is like I've, I've actually helped shoot a
bunch of her gang bangs and someof her other stuff.
So I do a lot of, I've been learning a lot more camera work
and doing sound and stuff like that for Ray Ray's company.
And then just, that's also just been a tremendous help for me
(49:09):
bringing that back to our brand and then figuring out how we fit
into, to this part of it. So our stuff is a lot more
quality. Quantity is something that we
have to start pushing a little bit more.
But again, everything just kind of comes back to like finding
that balance and being able to do a lot of the things.
But I, I, I really just believe it's a, it's just some of the
(49:30):
trends, like, you know, somebody, it's just like, think
about like a TikTok trend, right?
Like somebody does something silly and freaking, you know,
then it goes viral and then everybody else jumps onto the
wagon. I I just think, yeah, it just,
it, it came around like every, every, every year there's
something new that like everybody starts doing.
Yeah, the last year was in DC isgang bang.
(49:53):
Yeah, just the question I would have asked Miss Cruz.
Yes. What is it about a gang bang to
get the pussy wet? To me, I like to be the center
of attention. So I I like to be the center of
attention. So that's probably one thing I
fantasize, you know, you don't get to see this guy all the
time. So when you're going to like to
(50:14):
do a collab, you're like, oh, this is some fresh, someone new,
something different. I'm going to try it out.
That's what really gets me going.
Oh my. God, so how's the subspace come
down? What?
The subspace come down so peoplecan understand when we saw that
viral video of Mitch Lily Phillips crying and y'all
(50:37):
thought because she was crying, because she was shamed, because
she didn't 100 men, No motherfuckers, she just did 100
men. It's called subspace come down.
Oh that because because she was crying, because she felt bad,
because so many motherfuckers didn't get to come.
I said I like her. You said someone that went
(51:03):
completed, they didn't get to stay in long enough.
I just want everyone to come. So for you have to come down to
subspace with because it's a different level.
You doing a gang bang versus threesome then it.
It's a lot more and it's a lot more and it's definitely wet and
(51:27):
amazing. So I think for me that's what it
is more guys, the more more come, the more volume of come
keeps coming. So for.
The after, oh, when it's over. When it's.
Over a lot of it just comes to like we have identified, you
know, we're like I know when she's when she's getting to that
point and I just I help help manage her aftercare in that
(51:50):
respect and we talk about it andfor us, that's like part of our
like helping to recenter after. Yeah, we talked about it, which
is helpful because I'll tell himabout my adventures.
See people? There you go.
So I'm here with this wonderful couple up here and you know
we're going to bring them back. You know, I'm going to bring
(52:10):
Jasmine and him because I'm going to get him to wear the
thongs and her to possibly fashion boots on the premium
smoke room. You know what it is on loyal
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(52:32):
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That's why they used to call me big country as well as also
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(52:54):
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So it's JAZMINECRU z-xxx.com. My loyal fans and oil fans is at
(53:41):
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model modeling and I'm missing one link.
No, all your links are up on there.
You can get to. Twitter X Is Jasmine Cruz OFF?
One. Yeah, absolutely.
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(54:02):
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We've got a link tree and that one also holds all of the links
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we've got our links in there. And then we always make sure
that we shout out the links of whoever we are interviewing as
(54:23):
well. We appreciate everybody that's
been coming, that's been checking out our podcast.
We love seeing our fans hop on. Thank you so much, man, for
having us on again. We love coming on The Smoke.
If you ever need me to come on your podcast A. 100% we need to
(54:43):
make that happen. Oh yeah, most definitely.
So smokers, what did you smoke over today?
What did you learn from this wonderful episode?
Let me tell you what you learned.
What I've been telling y'all stop with the God damn lie.
We can find love in this God damn business.
They proof. It's nothing like having
somebody that respects what you do, support what you do, and
(55:07):
even help film because see something Because we do this
business. The hardest thing is finding
someone that accepts us for who we are and respects what we do
and love us regardless. It's called unconditional love.
Some of you fuckers don't understand that and that's the
beauty of our business. See y'all vanilla motherfuckers?
(55:30):
You wonder why y'all have divorces because y'all don't
know how to have hard conversations that swing
couples, Poly couples, porn couples have to have.
You feel me at the end of the day and stop thinking that if I
let my woman get fucked, I'm weak.
No *** I'm way more stronger than you and three time more
(55:50):
secure than your dumb ass. Let's make that clear you know,
Period. Let's kill with that falsehood
about manhood because at the endof the day, our sexual tastes
change with age. In your 20s, you may not thought
about swinging, but by the time you hit your 40s, you and wife
might want to go to Hinduism. You feel me?
(56:12):
And other part of this is we talked about the gang bang
trend. Here's the key to the gang bang
trend. Do the trend because it's
something that you enjoy and youwrite.
See a lot of you ladies y'all doing it, but y'all not into
gang bangs y'all? You understand how much energy,
(56:33):
mental, physical, emotional, soulful if you put into these
things because it's chaos, controlled chaos, but chaos none
the rest. A lot of Dicks going in you in
all your hoes and you have to beone that enjoy that shit.
Welcome that shit. Get off on that shit.
(56:55):
See, because what ends up happening is that that subspace
come down ain't gonna look like lilies.
You know you're going to be thatone they're going to be sitting
here talking about. Oh, only fans messed up my life.
Porn messed me up. Get there.
The third because you tried something that wasn't you.
I'll tell anybody this. I said this to every female I
(57:17):
work with. Don't do anything you wouldn't
normally do in your personal sexlife or you're not willing to
try. Are you interested to have the
greatest discovery to try so once again?
Get on our podcast. Stay true to your journey.
Basically, and true fellas, I can tell you all this.
You know how many females secretly would love to do a
(57:38):
fucking gangbang? They just ain't got the balls to
tell you. Your wife might want to do a
gangbang. You don't even know, but she's
scared to tell you because she afraid that you might.
You might want to leave, you feel me?
Because all women, two things. They all want to be porn stars
(58:00):
and they all would like to be ravished by men.
Trust and believe that, you feelme?
So all you Barber thumpers, conservative mother fuckers,
y'all can see him looking sideways.
But we know deep in your heart you want to fuck 12 Dicks all at
the same time. You just ain't got the balls to
do it because you afraid what people don't think of.
(58:20):
You sound like a personal problem to me.
So with that being said, you know we end these things all
day, every day. Life is a learning experience.
What's the point of the experience?
You haven't learned anything. Smoke this over.
Say goodbye to him, Cruz. Hey, thank you, love.
You guys. Absolutely.
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