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None. What's going on?
Beautiful. Hi.
So you had, I take it that you had took took part in evolved
fights? Yeah.
Oh yeah. Yeah, I'm wearing the shirt.
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Yeah. Oh.
My God, tell us about working with evolved fights.
I've been watching man. I talked to a couple ladies in
the work with them. I love her, she's really dope.
The producer, she's cool, she's super buff, but it's just really
fun 'cause it's like mixed wrestling and basically like I
wrestle with a guy and, and thenif he if he wins or I like
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basically my goal is to like gethis and my do I have to censor
myself? No, you don't.
No, no, they didn't make this clear.
Basically my job. Censoring on the smoker's lap.
I got to get to fuck him. Like my goal is to like get to
the deck and. So So what got you into the
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wrestling fetish? Because that that's becoming big
now. I did the Ultimate Surrender
back in the day when I first started like doing porn.
I was kind of like dibbling, dabbling in it.
And I did the Ultimate Surrenderand it was really fun.
And then so the lady who actually hosted for the Ultimate
Surrender branched out and did evolve fights.
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And so it's the same production basically.
It's just she's independent now.And I mean, it's just fun.
It's really a fun thing to do. I'm very athletic, so I don't
mind like wrestling and like boxing and fighting and stuff
like that. Apparently I'm strong because
the guy was saying that I was pretty strong.
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She will ball your ass up and suck your Dick after people if.
I have to, yes. Oh my God, so so people y'all
can understand this lady's been the baby.
She she's not a rookie by any means.
Like that name. Been ringing bells since damn
it. Well shit, you brought I think
your name? Your name came up with probably
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about, what, 2-3 years after I got in the goddamn business?
OK. 2010 So I did. Yeah, I know you care.
I think we had crossed paths before a long time ago
conversation wise. Definitely possibility I've I've
met a few people on the way up. Well, it's definitely and
everything. So for you, for the years you've
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been in this business, what do you love about the business?
What do I love about the business?
I love performing. For me, it's I love performing.
I do. That's the, that's the best part
of it is, is just getting to setwhatever set it is, whether it's
content, whether it's, you know,dancing, whatever it is that I'm
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doing. Like I'm still putting on a
performance that is entertainingto people and I really enjoy
entertaining people. Yeah, because it's like, what's
funny? She's a throwback literally
because a lot of the porn stars back in the day, they are so
stripped they went to the strip club too.
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They was, yeah. They was like strip club or they
was doing like parties and stufflike that.
But that back in the day, feature dancing was a big thing,
right? Yeah.
Most definitely. Being in the mags, being on
covers of DVD's. We lost all that great shit,
man. A few covers I can't look.
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That's why I'm like, I can't complain because when I think
about it, I probably have, I might have up to at least like
maybe 12 DVDs. Maybe I, I lost count.
I don't know if it's that many. He was on a shit load of covers
for what I fucking remember. OK, let's.
Google it. Let's let's see.
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Here I'm. Not trying to.
I should go into the porn store and see your fucking face, OK?
That that I've been on a lot of DVDs and, you know, I'm very
modest, but I don't give myself enough credit, I guess.
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Oh hell yeah, because I oh now you use what you you.
It's still ringing bells. That name was was ringing hard.
You feel what I'm saying, which we're going to let you know the
name of the second. But but like I said it because
to me it's like a lot of ladies that came in with you, they
wasn't able to transition and beable to evolve and roll with the
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times, especially the change of technology, change of how we
distribute, make money in the industry and what have you.
Yeah, I think I was way ahead ofmy time when I started in the
industry in the 1st place because I was definitely going
more towards online. And I think that because I grew
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up in the era of the computer and like technology, because in
school and stuff they taught us like how to use computers.
They were teaching us how to useMacs.
They were putting us in classes that taught us how to edit.
And I learned all that stuff growing up.
So when it came to me, I was at a place where I was like, OK,
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well, I'm trying to transition out of doing this into doing
this anyway. So it just kind of all fell into
place for me. And a lot of girls were not as
blessed. I won't say I will say blessed
because a lot of people get in the industry and they expect to
blow up. And sometimes they don't.
And I don't think people take account for that.
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Like they just assume, like, oh,I'm going to get into the porn
industry and I'm going to be this really big star.
And it's just like it doesn't happen like that for everybody,
unfortunately. Oh no, a very small percentage
to be exact, even this day in their age.
And here's the other part. We had to work harder to get in
the industry than you fuckers had to start.
Let's keep it 100. White guys, Yeah, for sure.
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As you can see ladies a long intro.
So people you see this beautifullady looking up something, She
is slim, thick, slim, big. She's a fucking legend and these
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biggies put some respect on these ladies name.
She's a beast in the industry. She can dance, she can wrestle,
she can suck a fucking Dick and blow bubbles on that bitch.
And she is one of the ladies that has right now probably part
of a dying breed people because she came from a time where
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content trade was considered fucking for free.
Yeah, get me, you never heard that for women.
You feel me? Now your mother folks want to do
content while my black ass retired.
There you go. She is.
And normally I give it say her name, but fuck that.
Nah, I got to put something somesteak on this.
She is hot from Cali. We talked about Cali.
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Cali and say say hello to smokers.
Hey is Kelly and say your favorite Ebony porn star?
Yes, he won an Urban XI. Did.
Nominated you. You have done a lot.
I have. I have.
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I'm looking at it right now and I'm still dumping.
A fucking lot people see if whenyou look back before we go into
Timesheet, when you look back, did you realize how much shit
you done accomplished in this business?
I'm just, it's still, I think it's still setting in for me.
You know what I mean? Like it's still like a lot of
people are like, are you retired?
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And I'm like. As it is, that is that the
rumor? We don't really retire
technically, we just, we are just easy.
I tell them I'm like, no, I'm just enjoying the fruits of my
labor because when I I literallyjust like googled box covers
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like and it's crazy. It's insane.
Like I'm looking at this shit and I'm just like, I really
became a porn, like I'm a real porn star, you know what I mean?
Then I got my award. I worked for Tushy.
I fucking did my showcase for Elegant Angel last year, a
couple years ago, and I'm just looking at this shit and I'm
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just like, I have a lot of box covers I put in fucking.
I I tried to tell you. Yeah, I do.
I knew. Look, I didn't make do research
on her because I already knew about the career.
Dude, I wanted to work with thissucker back in the day.
When I wasn't fucking on camera.Oh yes, I would.
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I was. Like, I don't shoot content, you
got to pay me. Oh, no, no, I know.
I don't shoot from it because no, you know how it was funny
because people didn't believe that that girls say that shit
like we used to step to him likewhere this is paying shoot.
I'm like, no, this content trade.
I don't fuck for free, Sir. And you?
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Explain to them that was the taste back in the day.
Please play it to him back in the day while y'all didn't do
content like that. I mean, me personally, it was a
comfortability thing for me. I was definitely afraid to get
into the industry because of STD's and like all that stuff.
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And I was just a real ass hoe. Like for me, like I wasn't doing
shit on camera, but you could pay me to come through and I
would like no service. You, you know, and I'm not going
to say too much because I wasn'tfucking everybody.
A lot of time I would just go and converse with them.
I would literally just be entertainment for them.
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I would dance, you know what I mean?
Walk around naked. They love that shit.
So, girls. Did porn back then to boost
that. Yeah, so I wasn't, I wasn't
fucking a lot of people. I was just kind of entertaining
guys for money. And I really enjoyed that.
And that kind of was like getting dangerous for me because
I, I started getting more popular online.
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And when I started getting more popular online, people kind of
started like trying to latch on to me a little bit.
And then, so that was like around 2018-2019.
And then in like 2020, well, 2018-2019, 2019, I started
working online and that's how I,when I say I started getting
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more popular was because I was actually shooting my own
content. That's when content was just
kind of like a content creator thing.
It was just like developing. It wasn't a big thing, like, you
know what I mean? Like people weren't really
posting sexual acts online. But I ended up getting hit up by
a company called Is My Girl and Is My Girls run by the same
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people that run Inked magazine. Yeah, yeah.
So what they did was they were sending out recruiters to get
girls on their website. And the recruiter hit me up and
was like, hey, you're a really pretty girl.
You could be making money online.
You know, this is the new wave. You can literally just be in
your bathroom brushing your teeth and guys will buy that.
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You know, we want to use you as like, kind of like a
spokesperson for our company. So they ended up inviting me out
to LA to do a photo shoot for their website.
And from there I just kind of like took off with the content
creation porn thing. And I was like in the Bay Area
at the time. I started doing crazy research.
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So at that time I signed up for the website and I started making
girlfriend content. So I was a solo content creator.
And I also was like, at that point was like, I want to start
working more on live shows, right?
So with the live thing, it started out okay.
I basically convinced the the dude that I was with at the time
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to buy me a laptop. You bought me a laptop and I
started streaming but the money was too slow.
Yeah. So it got to a point where I was
like, fuck that. I was like, fuck that, you know?
But I was like selling content online and I was just like
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selling sexy news pictures, videos, and I would make
content. I got a ring light for Christmas
and I started like putting like colored strips in my hair and
like wearing little cute outfitsand prancing around the house.
I got a pole and started like taking pictures and videos of
myself and working with photographers and like stuff
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like that. And that created a buzz for me
online to where I kind of started getting more popular
online. So I was like, all right, cool.
I'm getting a little buzz. I really want to like get into
porn. So at the time, because I was in
the Bay Area, good Lord, I'm sorry, this is a long story.
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I was in the Bay Area and I had my little guy friends or
whatever that would like drive me to work and like, you know,
we would hang out and I convinced a couple of them to
shoot content with me. And so we would I'm like, we're
fucking anywhere. I was like, I'm making money
online. You might as well like let's
make some money. So they wasn't really trying to
like be out there with it like that, but they was they would be
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OK with like me recording. So they we will fuck.
We would have to use condoms. I'm telling them like, hey, like
go get tested. Go get tested.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Really do this shit, go get
tested, you feel me and really make content like, but they
wasn't really like on that. So I was just like, all right,
whatever, I'm just going to haveto do it by myself.
So we would shoot content, but it would be like condom content.
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Like we're like the lighting wasn't always good.
Like, you know, it was just likeghetto, but you know.
So at that point I was like, letme start looking for performers,
maybe that are in the area and some photographers was actually
hitting me up because there was like, Oh, you should do like a
glory hole. And like they were like making
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suggestions and trying to like work with me and, and and they
always just gave me like sketchyass vibes.
Like like I feel like you don't sell my shit on the black market
and like make buku money off me.Like and I've had a couple of
them even try like making only fans with old pictures of me
that they have and like but use my new name and like so it'll be
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like old ass pictures from me shooting back in the day before
I really got into porn. But like it says.
Which is funny because I always thought you was in porn.
You get what I'm saying? So that let you know how much if
she came across my desk back then before she did porn, that
should tell you how much she wasright?
But. That's because I was.
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I was shooting. I was shooting with a lot of
photographers. I was, I started out really like
doing videos. So I would like go to the video
shoots and stuff in the Bay Areaand I would show up and I would
like work with photographers, work for videographers and like,
and I was like in the studio a lot actually, but I just never
released any of my music. I was just kind of like a video
and basically and then I startedmaking content and then like one
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day I was just like, I want to move to LA and become a porn
star. I want to move to LA because I
was hitting up agents and they were telling me like, oh, if
you're just doing girl, girl, you're not going to be big.
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You're wasting time. You're just a hobby.
It like you're not going to makea lot of money.
Oh, if you set up, if you come like basically they didn't want
to fly me out. They didn't want to put me up.
They didn't want to schedule bookings to where it was
beneficial for me to actually come out there.
Like I'm like, well, if you scheduled two or three or four
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shoots, you know, I'll come out there and just get shot out and
then come home. Like I'll come out there, make
my money and I'll come home. You know, nobody was like really
fucking with me. So I found that interesting
because after a while I said fuck them and I just moved to LA
and I started going to the UrbanX events.
I somehow I got roped in with somebody in the industry.
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I don't remember exactly how it happened because I started doing
research and that's what kind oflike led me into the industry.
I was like, if I'm going to do it, I want to make sure I do it
right. So I started Googling like
Chanel. I was like top black female
Ebony performers in the industry.
Chanel Hart popped up, stone popup and a fox Jenna Fox like all
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the the top bitches. Like in the end they gave me
like a top 20. And so I started following them
on Twitter and then like it ended up I followed Lala Ivy at
some point in time and I ended up finding the VIP connect,
which I love and I emailed them.But by then I had already moved
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to LA. I was like fuck it.
I'm like y'all not fucking with me.
I'm just going to move out thereand make this shit happen.
So I moved out there. I started going to Urban X
events I went to. AC2 also when you start fucking
with them, this is when the interracial boom began, which I
tell people this Black women lost out.
Yeah, when interracial hit because like right before you
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came in. That poem was booming.
It was boom. It's still booming.
It's why I'm making it, because it does boom and I don't care
what nobody says. Like it's definitely a market
for us. I don't know what happened.
I don't know if it's no. I'm telling you what happened,
see me being in the industries in 2010 when you have a bunch of
old white motherfuckers who conservative when it comes to
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how they make their money because like for them always use
Brazzers. Brazzers never shot BBW till
recent years. You want to know why only fans
came into existence and fucked up their money?
The only time these companies switch streams on what they
shoot and the type girl they shoot is because they throwing
shit against the wall to see what.
Sticks. Sticks.
Yeah, and so when interracial came in, because a lot because
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they don't realize how much workwas out there for black women in
Hollywood, you know what I'm saying?
Between 2010 to 2018, it was like work.
Yeah, you know, period. That's when black women were
like booming. And now it's very different.
It's very weird. I feel like.
So when I got with Shy Love, sheactually changed my name.
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And I feel like when she changedmy name and asked me to keep my
hair long, at the time, I didn'tunderstand what she was doing.
But she literally was marketing me as a Latin woman.
And so when she did that, that kind of like opened the door for
me because I was fucking Latin, which I never said or acted or
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pretended to be anything other than obviously a black woman.
But a lot of the. Old school shit right there,
because they did the same thing with Vanessa Del Rio, but that's
really is a straight black woman.
But they portrayed her as as as you know what I said, Latina.
They motherfucker black. Her sisters.
Her sisters is Felicia Rashad and and and your girl and Denise
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Alley. Debbie Alley she black as shit.
But they do that and it's like, it worked in my favor, you know
what I mean? Because obviously like, but I
just have a very diverse look. So the name in the name itself
is very diverse. And I feel like a lot of people
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kind of like it, just rate it. Now it's just ringing bells.
Like I've, I haven't shot a professional scene since
January, but I've been shooting my own content and like doing my
only fans and my platforms and stuff like that.
But everybody is just like, oh, you're retired, you're retired,
you're retired. And I'm just like, OK.
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No, but see the way the game is kind of pushy.
Girls have to do content now, you know, because that's how
you're going to get found. Versus didn't know, didn't know
more fresh off the boat no more.You know, back in the day they
were looking for girls that never been on camera.
Now ain't no way in hell you going to find that, you know?
No, there's still some girls outthere that aren't, you know,
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look, they still want to get into it.
And I, I come across girls like that all the time, like even
when I dance and stuff like that.
Girls, we know who the fuck I am.
I don't know these bitches from a can of I was sitting here
talking to a man trying to get him to go to VIP and she's like,
yeah, I want to get into porn. And I know who you are.
And I'm just like, first of all,why are you telling all my
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business? I'm saying.
And he's exactly the first thinghe do is pull up his, what's
your name? Like now he's looking at me so
like I'm like, so he's like, in that case I will get a dance.
It works in my benefit. But it's still like very weird
for me because a lot of people know who I am.
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I don't know who people are. Like it's just like, I never
know. I never know.
Like people who approach me online, like people I meet in
real life, I never know their anger anymore, you know?
Like I'm not a normal person. It's very.
Because because you get consummated to being a celebrity
can when you become a porn star,I know you become a super
celebrity technically. So yeah, I've been people that I
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didn't have fans call me out. I'm walking past a Jiffy Lube
Big Country in Durham. I'm like, wait a second, you
know what I'm saying? Who the hell know me as Big
Country? Oh my God, I got a fan.
You know what I'm saying? It's surreal when you become
somewhat of a like a super celebrity.
And I, I just, I mean, I worked really hard and I didn't realize
because I, you know, when you'reworking, you're just working.
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You're not really thinking aboutit.
And then the shit hits the Internet and it's just like, you
know, like I didn't understand until now, like, until I really
just like Googled myself and I looked up the pictures and I'm
just like, it's insane. I'm everywhere.
Yeah, on the main porn sites andstuff like Pornhub.
You go on Pornhub, I'm on the fucking front front page every
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time. And like all the I've shot with
pretty much every company exceptfor a few that are.
I feel like after I shoot with those companies then I'll be
done. But I feel like they're waiting
for me to get plastic surgery. We we going to discuss that too,
because see people realize how much they introduce pressure
some of these girls to change the modify their body.
Yeah, you. Know I'm saying so now, did you
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say you do content? How do you pick the guys that
you work with? Following count is very
important. I usually look at their work to
see who they worked with. That's important.
And if their content's pretty good like the there, you can
kind of tell when some guys havelike a system.
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Yeah. And then you can tell when
there's just like a guy trying to fuck on camera.
It's a big difference. Which is a lot more of them
nowadays than you used to be. Definitely, and a lot of people
know the lingo now so they be trying that shit and they'll hit
me up. No link, no nothing.
Nope, no Instagram, no Twitter, no nothing like oh, hey, I want
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to book you. Oh hey, I want to shoot content.
Oh hey, I want to collab and I'mjust like, so what's your at
like what's your pornhub? What's your this?
What's your that? You don't have nothing to show
for, but you're hitting me up talking about you want to fuck
me on camera. I blame the girls of this this
generation, because when I came in, let me make this clear
people, they wanted to see profile pics, a list of what I
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didn't shot. They wanted to see my link.
They wanted to see it. It wasn't as simple as I'd like
to shoot with you. They were like, OK, then I need
profile pic. I need a face pic.
Nobody knew with your Dick erecthard Dick pic.
I need to see that you actually did some shoots.
I mean, there are girls that arelike that, that we exist 'cause
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I'm like that. It's just.
There was more of y'all back in that was across the board versus
Nah. They didn't just don't give a
shit. Yeah, I feel like those are kind
of like bottom feeder girls though.
Yeah. And I hate to say it because
there is tears like there's, there's different tiers to when
it comes to this business. And I'm just happy to be a part
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of the 1% cause as my name gets when they are like, OK, we want
to book this type of scene. Who do we got?
My name comes up. Whether I get booked or not, it
doesn't matter. My name still sliding across the
desk every day, every day on Instagram, on Twitter or
something like they're seeing myface.
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Like they don't have a choice. So it's to the point where it's
like the companies that I do want to work with, they're going
to have to work with me or I'm just going to retire and say
fuck them, do my own shit. But at the end of the day, like
after a while, when you get whenthe fans continue to request you
so much, it gets to a point where they have to shoot you.
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Yeah, you don't have a fucking choice.
You might not like it, but because you missing out on
money, you know what I'm saying?Like, and we all could eat, We
all could get paid. We all could.
You know what I mean? Like thank.
You for saying that because I'vebeen telling girls this, they
don't want you to. You white hot, not red hot white
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hat. Especially now.
Yeah, because they want to make sure that you always called a
calculated risk. So you people don't understand
what that is. I'm going at 75%.
No, that I'm going to make moneywith her video.
All I need is 75%. You feel me?
Yeah, they're not going to. Book they take chances on some
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girls and and when the girl OK, so everything's like technical,
it's all demographic, it's all stats, it's all numbers.
And I noticed this. And So what they'll do is, for
example, like with browsers, I shot with the raunchy roommates
with she retired Oh girl and Maze the goat.
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And like the fans were like really like, oh, on her really
hard 'cause she was bodacious. Like she had, she had that like
bimbo look, right. And so like that bimbo look is
like what they shoot. So when you say, oh, they just
start shooting BW and like, yeah, because you notice like
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the certain companies have a certain look, like with Vixen,
for example, shoots very skinny white girls, European white
girls. They don't have a lot of
tattoos, they don't have a lot of body weight.
They're not thick. You understand?
I said they're not dark. Like, you know what I mean?
If they are dark girls, there's they look super exotic.
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I look super exotic. If I was a little skinnier, I
probably would be on Vixen, You understand what I'm saying?
So I was like, I understand how this shit works.
I so if I want to be on browsersthen I have to go bimbo.
You understand what I'm saying, but like you see the wide range.
Yeah. Somewhere in the middle.
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And what they do is like with black women, they don't know how
to market us. Let's just be honest.
They have all this fucking money, right?
Money. But they don't know how to
market black women to make us appealing to.
Yeah fan base So what they do isthey debut us shoot us the fuck
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out until they can't shoot us anymore or the fans stop
requesting us right and then they return us and then it's
back she's back guess who's backon the site you guys been
requesting her getting that you've built up this this what
we call like that wave of like the them missing me you.
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See what I'm? And if you don't leave, they
right. So the companies understand that
because that's how they work their market.
A lot of women in this business don't understand that that there
are always going to be gaps because at the end of the day,
you can either be a teeny bopperor a MILF.
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There's. No, yeah, they they want the
milk more than anybody. Auntie doesn't exist and I'm
like the fine auntie. I'm the single 25 to 35 year old
who has a lot of sex and they don't know how to market that
because they are tailored to a certain market.
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So for me, cool, y'all can have that money because guess what?
You didn't open up a whole motherfucking market for me.
Thank you, thank you so much because I don't have the market
the fuck out of anything. I just don't have the budget
because I'm bootstrapping my business.
You understand what I'm saying? If I had sponsors, investors
behind me, which is why a lot ofcompanies don't want me to make
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a lot of money because I would just do my own shit and I would
open my own production company, my own agency, my own model
house. Which you know what's funny?
When I first started and I was talking to all these agents
about, you know, wanting to get into the industry, they telling
me, oh, you can't do you can't do this, you can't do that.
But when I signed with Shy, she put me in a model house.
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So you telling me you couldn't set up five scenes for five days
and have me come stand the modelhouse for you to make some
money? See that that the reason why the
talent started doing content houses?
Yes, because it enabled them to get a shit load of content and
work with quality talent. But.
That is just dangerous. Because a lot of people just be
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fucking and that's how STD's getpassed around.
Personally, I know I. Know we talked about that
because see the thing about it what these people coming in
don't understand you got to sacrifice your personal sex life
to chase these shit people. You just can't go to the bar and
take something home and think your ass is going to pop a bit
pop on set and shoot because that test I don't give a fuck is
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on these goods. The last person you fucked
because it only told you he was clean the previous 30 days, not
the next coming you know? So for you, how much did you
have to adjust your personal sexlife and the way that you move
personally to chase this? I didn't have to adjust much
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because I really didn't have a personal sex life that much.
And I've always been the type ofperson who always use condoms.
I wasn't just out here loose just fucking letting people nut
me. Like I was never that person.
So the guys that I was dating, like we would use protection and
then it just got to a point where I think at one point in
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time I had like a content partners, what they call it
nowadays. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I started going to the Urban X Awards and stuff like that and I
met some people and then I endedup moving.
Well, I let a guy come stay withme and he was in the industry at
the time and like I was kind of like talking to him about
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getting into the industry. And so, you know, he agreed to
shoot content with me while he was staying with me.
And that's kind of like, and that's when I started like
getting tested. Well, I had already started
getting tested because I was shooting for kink, but.
She just named them off. You just hear the names people
Hold on, hold on. Ain't none of them mid level?
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All these motherfuckers top level ABN.
Y'all know what I'm talking about?
Go ahead babe, I'm. Just telling my life.
Yeah, I shot with King, you know, and, you know, arrogant
and angry, and I'm sitting right.
She naming off all the big dog. She naming off DVD box covers
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like none of these kids like, yeah, I saw, yeah, I saw my
auntie last week, you know. Thank you.
I thought I was shooting and then so I I would tell him I was
like me and him when he got tested together and we was like
in the same house. So I knew who he was fucking.
I knew he wasn't like he would shoot.
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He would go to his shoes and stuff but I do.
He wasn't like fucking people outside of the industry.
He was only fucking people that was tested.
So I would fuck him. And then like we had like a
little trapo going on for a second where I was just shooting
content. He was introducing me to other
guys in the industry. That's really how I kind of
started doing content because atfirst I was just like, well, I
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don't really want to fuck nobody.
And and then I was just fucking him on camera and then he
brought a guy home one day after.
I like him. I like him.
I mean, not the name drop, but it was Chris Blackwood, Dylan
Cox, and he brought Dylan home one night after they got done
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shooting. He was like, oh, he going to
come over and we just going to chill.
And he's like if you want to shoot constant, you can shoot
constant if you want to. We all tested.
I was like, cool. So that night I was like, I'm
not fucking both of y'all because obviously I wasn't going
to let them run a train on me oncamera, but I was like, I was
like both of y'all Dicks so we could do that.
And that's how the double blowjob of me sitting in the
chair. I was just like, that one still
goes viral because I was like, which one should I suck or like,
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should I suck both of them? And it was just two big ass
Dicks. So you couldn't see them because
I was sitting down and they werekind of taller than me.
So you I was like waist line andI was just like looking at these
two big ass Dicks and basketballshorts the good old days.
But yeah, so that I so then at that point I was like, all
right, I'll start like shooting content a little bit here.
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And they would test tested people, but I still wasn't like
physically like having sex like that unless I was I had a part
you. See, you see, the thing about it
is that because I always said this and you can speak to this
part of your brand is who you fuck also absolutely.
And for you, you would you hear she just didn't wait with fuck,
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just a rather content creator. No no no, she was dealing with
the top of the line of the industry.
Speak to working with the professionals how iron sharpens
iron and how it's benefits because a lot of these girls
don't. God tell a girl if you want to
take his business seriously you work with top talent.
Forget forget the content created and got the large
following this day the third. Because it don't move the needle
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like you motherfuckers think. No.
Trust me, it don't. Not money wise it doesn't it
looks good if you're just tryingto have fillers for the in
betweens. But realistically, like I'm
going to be honest, I'm very grateful again for having access
to people who are in the industry who were bigger than
me. You know what I mean?
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And I mean, I've been in situations where like, I'll say
somebody's name and it's just soto me, it's so casual, like, you
know what I mean? Like because I'm, I've been
knowing these people for years before I got into the industry,
before I really got really big, I scoped out the scene.
People knew who I was, I talked to them.
I was like, I want to do it like, you know what I mean?
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And I planned for it. It wasn't just one of those
things where I was like, oh, I'mjust going to start fucking
everybody on camera and like, I'm going to make a lot of money
that way. Like it never.
I was a solo live show girl before I started doing content.
I worked my way into content andthen from there worked my way
into porn. So it was like a ladder of being
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like, Are you sure you want to do this?
And then being like, OK, well, Imean look at who you're around
and look at what they're doing. You know what I mean?
Like, And it was one of those things where it's like, OK, do
you want to like, what do you want to do?
Like you can't. It was a transition for me.
It was like, I can't continue todo one thing if I'm going to be
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serious about it, then I just have to do it.
So at that point I was like, well, I'm just going to get an
agent. And when I got my agent, that's
when COVID hit. And it was like, Beyoncé world
stop. I said, wait a minute, now
goddamn it. Am I not supposed to be doing
this? Like is this a sign from God?
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But it that really like made me go up more because I shot my
first actual mainstream porno with dog fart.
We fucked black girls and it waswith Cyrus King and Steve Holmes
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and it went viral and it got nominated.
Yeah, I can. Remember, and I almost didn't go
do it for personal reasons that were out of my control, but I
had a little pep talk from a close friend and I got my.
Your friend gave you that courage.
Yeah, he was like, you need to go do that.
Like, go. That's a lot of bread.
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He was like, dude, what you needto do, Like, you'll be fine.
And I was great. And I think the reason why I
went viral is because the fans went crazy because Chris.
No, Steve. One of them nutted in my face
and my mouth, and I used his semen and spit it on the other
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one and sucked it off until he came.
And so everybody was just like going crazy over that scene.
And they got nominated. And after that I was like, all
right, we in the game, I was like, what's up?
What's next? And that was my first scene.
And then I kept working with dogPark and they had hired me for
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the glory hole. And the glory hole, one of the
guys ended up canceling, but thebartender that was an extra was
actually tested and he was like,well, if you guys want to use me
and she's OK with it, I can be the second guy.
So I ended up doing it again. And like so I never like I came
into the business. So so so you know, for
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technical, I came in on the second dudes date and making him
come, that's a hell of a signature.
I came in like kicking the door in, like I, it was like, I
didn't come here to play. And you know, the thing about it
is people think like just shooting like, no, like it's
really being the nastiest bitch like, And I like the, the, the,
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the hungrier you are for the sex.
And for me that's natural 'causethat's just who I am.
Like you, I'm a very sexual person.
I love to see people please, like, you know what I mean?
Like that shit turns me on. So when I'm on set and the
cameras rolling, I'm also a Voyager, which means I like
being watched. So if I know I'm being watched,
I'm going to put on a fucking show and I'm going to get paid
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like, you know what I mean? So all that plays a major role
for me and I have to be excited about working with the people
that I work with. Otherwise I'm it shows my
pussy's dry. So that's for me.
Like I can't just be like, OK, you got a big following.
Like Nah like I go and dissect people and I watch them for
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months, sometimes years before Iwork with them to figure out if
I really want to work with them or not.
Because what is your mindset? Like how do you think?
Are you really making money or do you just need me?
Because at this point like I don't need to fuck nobody.
I literally can go back to beinga solo live stream artist
online. I don't have to fuck nobody that
I don't want to fuck. And I don't do courtesy fucks.
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Like I'm beyond fucking *** because I feel sorry for them
but like, you know what I mean? Like Nah, like because either
you're going to underperform because you're nervous or try to
over perform and turn me off. Yeah, see.
No, but see it. I told people I have to tell
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people this. Part of why especially guys is
male talent. It is important for us to do
content right. It's important for us to shoot
content. You want to know why?
It's called experience. It's called learning how to be
in front of the camera. Some of you fuckers don't even
know how to use an off camera hand to move their hair out the
fucking face. Y'all don't know how to part the
butt sheet when she ride the Dick so we can see how much Dick
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she's really riding? And I had like this one guy I
shot with him and he like bombedthe shoot.
And like, that's why I'd be like, I don't really like
wasting my time. Not just on new guys, but like
certain guys like you can kind of tell like in their content if
they're too like love making andlike into like it.
Sometimes if it's too a little too sensual or like the
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background isn't, you can just tell when someone doesn't take
this shit seriously. OK speak to this.
How important is a guy in middletime learns pace in a scene?
It's very important. I shot with somebody that gave
me a massage for an hour and we didn't fuck at all.
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No pop shot, nothing. Yeah, exactly.
I'm like. What?
I was pissed. I left very upset.
What I'm like, it's like once hewhen I did massage scenes, I
massage on her, wait when she lay on her stomach, I massage it
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completely. I always tell him when I get to
the head and I start with starting your shoulders, that's
when you start playing with my Dick.
That's what I tried to do and hetold me no.
He told me I needed to lay thereand relax and let him give me a.
Weirdo. I guess he thought I was going
to be there all night. He's.
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A fucking weirdo. And then when I asked him for my
money back because I had the Uber to get to him, he couldn't
even give me the money. I didn't even ask him.
I just wanted my money back for the Uber.
Like I didn't need the money. I had money.
Obviously I'm outside, I got money to be outside.
Mother fucker. But.
Yeah, because if your brand is we fucking and I'm there to do a
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scene, even though it might be afairy scene, it might be a
massage scene. Any Posey?
Any fucking you killing my brandif you don't give me what I
need, why do I need to fuck withyou, work with you ever again?
I would never work with him again and I'm going to tell
other people not to work with him.
He's a good photographer. He's good with pictures, but
he's not good with. He probably was afraid that he
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won't go last. He would go bust quick.
He did. Won't go be hard.
You got me cold blood to be on this camera, yo.
Especially with me, because I'm going to eat you up and spit you
out. And that's not in a bad way.
That's just some real shit. Like you know what I came here
for? Give me your nuts.
That's. Right.
I would have loved to work with you because it would have been a
heavyweight fight, because I seeshe's a competitive fucker.
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I love fucking competitive womenthat want to.
Competitive. I'm actually very submissive
when it comes to fucking, but I know what I want.
Like I'm very vocal, I'm very open.
I'm very like listen, this is you do this, this is going to
make me cum. I don't understand guys that
like I will give them the play by play direction on how to like
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make me cum, make me happy, likeand they still just bomb and I
just be like it's really I'm really not complex, like, you
know what I mean? Like I'm very simple actually
but I don't get it so. So what unlocks the inner beast
being sexually for you? I think it's a control thing,
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but that's. The alpha.
I like to, I like to take control, but I also like to
relinquish it, if that makes sense.
I feel like I'm a very strong person.
I'm very strong willed. And like there are times where I
don't want to be that way. And I feel like in this world
that we live in, especially in this industry, I'm kind of
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forced to be bossy and like I'm really just a lover girl.
Like I'm just very much like daddy, whatever you say, I don't
want to. Can you take care of it for me?
Thank you. Can you do this for me?
Thank you. Like, I'm very, just very sweet
and womanly and feminine like, but like in the industry, they
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want me to be like this butchy black lesbian bitch.
That's just, like, hardcore. Yeah, No, that's not.
Why? Why is it hard for people to
picture black women submissive? Because most black women aren't
submissive, but that's because the world make us that way.
And that's what I don't understand.
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And like, I know my home girl, tiny she's she's very
submissive. She likes to be like tied up and
stuff like that. And she says it all the time.
Like she gets guys all the time that try and like make her be
dominant. She's like, I'm not dominant.
I am a submissive. Like I'm a switch.
I can do both. But like in real life?
A black submissive me being a dumb I wanted to do BDSM scenes,
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sweat training scenes that involve black women.
I was able to find one that was down for that to be tied up and
all that but it's like which nowmore black women start to come
into this submissive, submissive.
They want to be tied up, choking, all that, but it feels
like I'm going to keep wanting it.
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Feel like our culture looks downupon that and.
They do. It's crazy, right?
Yeah, they did see like, oh, that's white girl shit.
No, it's not. No, it's.
Not I mean, how, how submissive are we talking though?
Because yes, it is. But like you understand what I'm
saying? Like a black woman can't be
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like, I'm forced to be strong, independent, like whoa.
And then like, and then these white men be thinking that they
can save me and be trying to have me on cocaine and shit.
And I'm just like, listen, I'm not that girl, girl.
I'm not that girl, you know, like I'm I don't trust you.
I mean, not like that. Like I'm not even trying to say
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like that, but on some real shit, like motherfuckers will
have you out here fucked up. You understand what I'm trying
to say? Like if you fuck with the wrong
people, they'll have you out here fucked off, bro.
They don't give a fuck. They don't care.
They want to benefit off of you in any way, shape or form that
they can. And if they can't, then they
they paint you as like too much.Because to work with being a
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bitch. Yeah.
Because that's the hardest part is I tell women this, never lose
your respect as the biggest women to these men, because
you'll never get it back. You'll never get it back and
they won't respect you. You know, and I think a lot of
people respect me more than anything.
And I, I mean, I appreciate it. That's why I can't like change
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the narrative of being like I, Ihave to be hard up because then
people do try and take advantageif I'm not.
So I'd rather have that be like,oh, she's a bitch.
Like she's a diva. Like, OK, cool bitch.
You can say worse things about me.
Yeah, but you can't I really be a bitch and not used and be just
used? Yeah, but I mean, a lot of
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people be trying to talk shit about me, like like a lot of
girls be trying to say I did cheap anal, like shit like that.
And it's just like, OK, I didn'tstandard rates just like the
rest of you hoes ain't been paidas much as I've been paid or
been on the sets that I've been on.
So what are we talking about? For real.
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And and even with that, because now we got to have some fun with
this question. This has been a year of
gangbangs. So have you done or looking to
do gangbangs? I I did see a post you mentioned
something about gangbangs. I've done 1/2.
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OK, what do we count as gangbangs?
Because I've done a gangbang. Gangbangs technically is
anything over. But is it?
Over 4, it's not 4 dudes, over three, no two dudes.
I've done gangbangs. I've done 2 official gangbangs
for sure. OK.
I've done an interracial gangbang that wasn't anal, it
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was just badge and that was for Dog Fart and that was when I
played the HR person and then I did my showcase gangbang and
that was all black and that was for Elegant Angel and that was
part of my showcase. And how many guys was in in each
game? Bang.
Five. That's.
Good. Yeah.
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Hey, pretty good. Hey, so for you, what gets you
off the the what gets you off with a gang bang?
What turns you on? We get the the pussy juices
flowing with the gang bang. I don't have to do too much
work. She the first one ever said that
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shit. I've heard everything.
I ain't never heard that. Go ahead, girl.
Because basically I'm just beingused and they're going to put me
in the position they want me andthey're going to tell me what to
do. You know what I mean?
I can just relinquish my controland let them use me, use my body
to please themselves. And it feels amazing.
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It feels amazing. So let me ask.
You this because I've been on this when it came to black women
in gangbangs and we why we don'tsee more black women do that.
Because they get ridiculed for it.
They get ridiculed. That part by our own kind.
Yeah, of course that's what it goes back to.
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That's that white girl shit. Yeah, you know, very and to me,
I it there's black women that are down for doing game based
and want to do it. And I would love to see more of
that in porn, you know, period. Because even to the point with
black BDSMI, love seeing black BDSM image.
And I think I'm one of the firstblack women to actually venture
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off into BDSM, but not like go too extreme with it because I
know, you know, there's other people who are really, you know,
out there about it. But I I I would never expect you
on sexually broken. I don't even know what the fuck
that is. Wait, wait, wait.
They they, they really using these girls?
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They really using? These is it like ghetto get
ghetto gaggers. Yeah, kind of like ghetto
gaggers. Yeah, no.
I mean, but I actually have talked to you guys on ghetto
gaggers and stuff and talk to you one of.
My you pop in and try and recruit me every now and again,
but if they don't have $1,000,000 for me they might as
well leave me the fuck alone 'cause that's how much I'm
charging for that. See, there you go, people.
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Now, because see, here's the other part too.
And then she said, how do women don't price themselves out?
That's difficult too, because meright now, like I feel like when
I started out, I definitely was taking lower rates and it wasn't
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cheap. It was just kind of like average
standard rates, like you know what I mean?
I was getting paid really well for my scenes.
But when I started doing anal and I worked for certain
companies, I definitely raised my price and that made me more
exclusive, but it definitely probably priced me out of the
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industry because there are so many girls wanting to do so much
for so little. So for that, it's like, you
know, I raised my prices, but rightfully so because I
realized, like, I am one of the only black women who really does
anal for real. A handful of us who actually do
it and enjoy it, like for real. And then 'cause there are girls
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like Alexis Tay, like they shot that girl out like crazy.
Like, you know what I mean? Like she's done so much, so many
anal scenes. Like now they're saying she
retired and it's just like, I don't even think she's really
retired. I think she's just taking a
fucking break. Like how much do y'all expect us
to shoot? Like how long do you expect?
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Do we not age? Do we not get married?
Do we not have kids? You expect us to just continue
to like, give our holes away forever?
Like I don't be understanding what people really want from.
Us, you see, I would told girls I said the whole purpose of why
you shoot with the mainstream companies is to get mainstream
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appeal international presents and to take them.
Let me make this clear. When they see you on dog fart,
they're going to Google you. They're going to leave dog park
to go find you and see. The point is is you shoot with
those companies enough the way you build up your base so strong
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that you don't need them. The key is to become a
kingmaker. It's more important to shoot
with county county intake than her to ever shoot with you.
And that include if you a big time man, you know, period.
Like, you know what I'm saying? Because I never forget when I
met Cherokee and she told me howmuch she shot and she said she
ain't got no money from that shit.
That when she started her own shit, she said, she even said
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she said Pinky is the GOAT. She came in the game, got them
independent. She didn't worry about that.
They had to come to her. Yeah.
That's where I'm at now, You know, I don't have an agent.
I'm doing all my own stuff on myown.
I book all my own shit, I shoot all my own stuff, I edit all my
own stuff. I post it all online.
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There's nobody but me working behind this machine.
And so the harsh reality of it is, is that if I want it to be
bigger, I probably would need a team, but also like, what comes
with that and what am I going tohave to do and what am I going
to what? Money you got to spend.
Make though you understand what I'm saying like because right
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now I'm making myself out doing everything to make sure that I'm
maintaining my fan base and still making money because I'm
not getting that money from the mainstream companies anymore the
way that I was and I've investedthat money.
So I'm good, but at the same time like, like I invested it
back into my own business. That way I'm able to do all this
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shit. You understand what I'm saying?
Like I have my laptop so I can actually fucking write and type
and like record and I, I can go live like you understand what
I'm saying. So I invested my money to where
I'm OK, but I see girls has beenin the industry way longer than
me who have absolutely nothing to show for it and they can
barely get around to doing the content because you're so used
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to like the old school ways. But I came in doing content,
understand what I'm saying, So it's all a full circle.
It's like when I'm not on mainstream sets and I'm not
making that money because it's in spurts.
It's not that I'm retired. I'm shot the fuck out.
Because he. Was everywhere.
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Yeah, because he when when they start doing what was called the
bulk rate shoots. So y'all can understand what
that is. They pay you to shoot a certain
amount of scenes. Why?
If I didn't shot you for five scenes, why the fuck I need to
call you for another two years? And mind you, I didn't shot 6
girls this week. 5 scenes a piece.
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I'm not going to put all 5 scenes out at the same time.
That's why sometimes you have a company that shot a girl in 2022
and they should get dropped to 2025.
Right, you know what I'm saying,Showcase and and I think 2023
and they didn't drop it until 2024.
Yeah. So now and then after the
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showcase, of course, now they'relike, whoa, we can't shoot you
no more girl. You kind of like you everywhere.
Like matter of fact, we tired ofyour ass.
We don't want to. See your home moment.
See what I'm saying? Like God damn it, Callie.
Callie, I don't want to shoot you, but I'm gonna have to.
I'm gonna have to. We're gonna give you a little
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break, though. Yeah.
When? You see, that's when the girls
focus on their content because by the time you get to that
point, you didn't met enough establishment of talents that
want to work with your ass and you kind of learned the you kind
of learned how to shoot because I tell people the way that they
see you, the way they want to continue seeing you.
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You killed a fantasy. I understand females, you know
do the bullshit, you know cell phone video with no light, but
you don't understand how the fuck it hurts your image when I
just saw you with fucking Brazzers.
You didn't kill my fantasy. I just saw you with brass, with
Rome Major. You want to beat fuckers away
and then I come here and your ass, I can barely see the Dick
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going in the pussy. I mean.
You know, you're hustling backwards.
You're hustling backwards. Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, I know the porn companies, like the big ones,
They definitely like the fact that I shoot really good content
because my content I guess is fire.
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So they never really want to kick me off the sides, no.
Because once again, people everything I tell y'all.
It's funny how it gets fucking confirmed.
She just sat there and said it. The big boys watch y'all site
you dumb fucks you wouldn't knowyou ain't getting booked.
They look at your shit but like do I really want this bitch on
my set? Look at her saying look who
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she's fucking. They it it's all about image.
They want a female that epitomizes their brand.
Then I tell people is no, If youwant to become a Playboy model,
you send them Playboy's pictures.
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You feel what? I'm saying, I mean, obviously,
right? Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
If you want to be a rapping sign, you going to send them
some rap, some good rap music, agood project.
People be thinking that they canjust fuck me on camera and
that's just going to make them, you know, more successful.
But they don't want to do the work.
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No, I've met a few of them like that.
They wanted me to kind of like take them in and like, show
them. I'm like, no, I'm not going to
jail for trafficking for you. Come here.
Jump, baby. No, because see what what guys
don't get is 1, You go and see some money coming in, whether
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it's even if it's content, you're not paying them for the
sheet. You have to come to travel to
the hotel. You, you, you.
You need to get some good equipment.
I'm. Sorry, the traveling and all
that shit comes after that. You need something portable that
you could take with you on the go and you need to be be
blogged. A lot of the guys that I know
that are really popular, they have their own shit away from
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the girls. They fuck bad bitches, but
that's like aside from what theydo on their social media, a lot
of them look really good. Like a lot of people will be
trying to get into this shit. You don't even have the body for
it. You don't even have the
equipment for it. You don't even have the Dick for
it. You like, you don't have the
money, you don't have the body, you don't have the look, you
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don't have the image. You shouldn't even, I don't know
who told you that you could get in this shit and make money.
I'm just being honest, like. No, because only fans marketed
only fans to the average motherfucker, making the average
motherfucker think that they canbe porn stars.
But they don't have to be porn stars to be on only fans.
They could do absolutely anything that is content
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creation. It doesn't have to be having
sex. So that's what I'm saying.
So many people want to have sex on camera, but you could be like
you play video games, why don't you stream?
You understand what I'm saying? Like if you.
Because they think it's free pussy baby.
They think if I come with the cell phone and a ring like I get
to fuck county county hentai fuck.
That. I get to get free pussy.
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I keep telling y'all men we lookfor the easiest way to get to
the pussy. So when *** found out, let me
tell you a big mistake. When Jimmy Smack said he made
$1,000,000 and we saw that he fucks Leon Power.
Every big belly motherfucker that ain't built for porn said
if this ugly motherfucker you got them, get that fine chick.
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And all he had was a cell phone,what about me?
And that's what happened. Well, they got me fucked up
because I ain't fucking nobody on camera, but they ain't got no
bread for me. And then, and that's the thing
too, like just 'cause you got some bread don't mean I'm a fuck
you either. If it doesn't align with my
brand, I really don't want it onmy page or on Twitter or none of
that shit. And so, I don't know, people
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just be weird and I just pay attention.
Because when you came in the game, y'all the last generation
that understood the importance of a brand and don't get it.
True, there's some girls like Miss at well from this
generation. Miss at 5 Miss B Nasty and all
them. They understand Brandy.
The rest you have was done. It's more than you sitting here
(01:04:00):
putting your feet up. No, I'll.
Be doing that though, so I mean.Baby, you got more than that on
there. You got professional picks, you
give me model porn star influence.
You know what them girls give mewith their with their page?
A thought with a cell phone. Yeah.
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You're not going to continuouslymake money.
The key is to make money in the long term.
It's just funny because I thought I I started out as a
thought with a cell phone and look at me.
So I don't really. I don't really.
I don't really be trying to discourage too many people
because it's possible, but like you kind of have to branch out
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like, but I feel like a lot of people are just starting
somewhere. I think the market is over
saturated with people who just think they can.
But then there are some gems in there.
Yeah, there are some gems in there because I'll be seeing
some bad bitches. They be having way bigger
follower accounts than I do. And I'll be like, damn, you got
300,400 thousand followers like and I'll be like asking myself
(01:05:03):
like, I wonder if she's making good money.
You know what I mean? Like.
Now I'll be here with you. Some of the motherfuckers use
box. Yeah, and some of them pay, they
boost their stuff and that's whyI have to.
I know a couple male talents that y'all swear they biting
like a son bitch. Oh.
I already know that's why. They biting like a son bitch.
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So y'all going to be going nuts over there?
It's got back like a hundred 100,000.
They pay for all that they engagement like that.
Yeah, my, that's why I'm happy. My engagement is authentic and I
like to keep it that way like. Yeah, can they try to get me
people try to get me to pay for box for the pockets?
I said no, I wouldn't win with the organic.
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What I wouldn't have the organicfan base and billing solid than
me sitting here paying every month for it to get extra this
damn third because then. It's guys that pay thousands of
dollars for promo. Yeah, and don't even make their
money back. I mean I would hope they make
their money back. I hope so too.
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Seems like that would be the purpose, right?
That would actually hope. You spending that much money for
you ain't making it back. You should be tripling your
money. Yeah, see, even when I see that
list to like a lot of podcast, especially in the podcast that
like fell off a little bit because y'all sitting here doing
this studio and all this, y'all paying for studio, but the
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podcast will bring you in studiomoney.
That part, because I tried doingthe podcast and it was going
really well, but then I was justlike, I can't be doing that.
Like, you know, and I, I would interview people in my home, but
I, I mean, I think I'm just going to start interviewing
people that I work. We don't get streamed y'all.
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Not too expensive, can't do remote.
Yeah, well, I So what I was was doing was pre recording them and
then going to up with them when I had like several so I could
just and then I had an introduction, but it was in the
studio and I don't work in the studio anymore.
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So I'm just like trying to figure out how to put it all
together because I have I actually interviewed Kazumi
before Kazumi got really big. Wow, really crazy on the show
she she wasn't doing mainstream yet actually suggested that she
signed with Vixen in the interview.
So I need to release that and then Nina 420 and she's really
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big in the content creator solo stuff.
She really her that girl does not play like her pivot game is
crazy like she isn't mainstream porn at all.
She's the only fans girl, but she has properties, she has
clothing line. She sells like lingerie, she
sells classes like and for two, it's a lot of shit that she's
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doing online outside the sex work.
So I really. And I talk about that too on the
show. Ladies finding business
opportunities ain't got shit to do a poem from being a sponsor.
It could be selling, you know what I'm saying, selling sex
tours. It could be, you know, being a,
a, a, a brand ambassador. You know, it's a reason why I'm
talking about the professional pics you post when your
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professional piece wearing something super from Fashion
Nova and you tag them. Motherfuckers, you'd be
surprised. You might actually get a goddamn
sponsorship and they don't give a fuck.
I don't know though, because I've been trying to get a
sponsorship with them for a minute and I need a plug on that
for real because I'd be like, what's up?
Like, you know, they don't work with a lot of sex workers.
That's why I'm trying to diversify and make myself known
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for more than just sex because Ifeel like a lot of brands are
really scared to work with me, which I don't know why.
I don't get it. Like they try to act so like
well we can't do we're sex worker friendly.
Are you really sex worker friendly though?
Because y'all fuck with all these celebrities that we fake
pushing sex. These hoes not really like that
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for real. Like and and your outfits are
practically they just keep porn star certified actually.
They be butt ass naked walking around in stripper outfits at
the club. Like stop it.
Yeah, that would. Have been saying like it's funny
I told people I said the outfitsthat 40 and 50 year olds wear
now they won't wear when when I was growing up that they they
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these female you you I don't know if you strip club or the
club anymore we sold the outfitsyou haven't made anything it's.
Like, man, they think you're a fucking stripper and then you
want to get mad because you walkaround this motherfucker looking
like a dancer. The fuck?
But you want somebody to hear you?
I'm like, maybe I can see your nipple.
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Stupid, you got the whole outfiton, would you Cross playing a
stripper tonight, you dumb hoe. Sorry.
Oh my. God people, I didn't hear this
gorgeous lady up here for an hour and you know we ain't even
touched the surface of shit. I know.
You know, I got to ask her the $1,000,000 question.
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So what did you smoke over smokers?
What the fuck did you learn thisepisode?
Well, let me tell you what you learned what we've been telling
you. This is a motherfucking
business. If you do not treat this as a
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business, if you do not move as this is a business, you will not
make money, you will not succeed, nor you will last long
in this business. The key to this business is
growth and evolution because youcan't keep doing the same thing
for two years and expect the same result.
That's insanity. You have to change up things.
(01:13:25):
You got to be willing to change up things.
I always hear. Well, if they won't, if you did
a boy girl, then they gonna wantyou to do a three.
So then they gonna want you to do a false, then they gonna want
you to do anal. Can I tell you something?
It's true. Yeah, it's not evolving,
upgrading. You feel what I'm coming from.
How many you mother? Element.
(01:13:46):
Yeah, how many you mother complain when these rappers
don't change up their rap? So do something different.
Damn, I'd like to see him do something bro.
So it's no different in porn because you want to become a
star. Even the biggest stars in our
business, in regular movies, they don't do the same role.
They don't want to be tight casted.
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You feel me? It's the key to this business.
Like she said, the nastier, the sloppier, the freakier.
The crazier. The dirtier, the sexiest, the
more it's going to sell. This is the one business where a
woman can be that complete slut and don't have to worry about no
one judging her ass. They still.
Want to judge you, but they're just not going to say it to your
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face? No, they ain't going to say it
to your face and then they want to judge your ass.
Be the ones that got to spend the money jerking off to.
You, but they're still going to fuck you, so that's all you.
Know what I'm saying? And on top of that once again
that you learnt these ladies aretrue business women.
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See when Fresh and Freak want tohave these girls on the show and
ask them well you know and want to ask them questions about
investing and stuff like that, y'all want to go get them?
Only fan girls don't understand that.
Why don't you go get the county county intake?
Because they know they're going to get cussed the fuck out and
told some real shit. Yeah, basically.
What kicked me off the show? They're going to be charging you
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get Jump out of here. She's too.
She know how to articulate her thoughts way too well.
Yeah, because these ladies, you can't be done to do this
business. Yeah, I get it.
It's second. And.
You fucking will you. Can that's the problem, though
you shouldn't be. Yes Sir, some of you
motherfuckers just bit more lucky than good.
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But the key is this. How long you been the biggest
baby? How many years?
5. Five years.
How many of you motherfuckers been in for two or lasted for
one? The reason why she lasted five
years? She expands her business, she
runs her business and she looks at it and treats it as a
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business. No more, nothing less.
Because this is how we can create generational wealth.
And on top of that, it the one thing that y'all don't want to
hear porn does empower women. Because you want to know why
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women make the most money in this business.
That's why y'all don't want themto do it.
Yeah. Let's keep it 1.
Let's keep it 100 shell. Y'all don't want women to do sex
work because it gives them independent and it helps them
make more money than some of youmotherfuckers, Yeah.
Specifically black women while we're talking about.
It basically and it's down and last I checked we keep saying
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God bless the child who got his own.
Why do we shun those that do youfeel me?
So I hope y'all learned something and I hope we talked
about something. So with that being said, you
know how we end these wonderful shows all the time.
Life is a learning experience. What's the point of the
experience if you haven't learned anything?
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Smoke this over. Say goodbye to him, gorgeous.
Bye. Music.