August 19, 2025 • 63 mins
This episode I talk with One of the Gangbang Queens, Wisconsin Tiff. We discuss her Gangbang with Lily Phillips, and the stigma behind Gangbangs. She discuss going viral and her wanting to shoot a porn in a church and the backlash. She discusses being extreme and wanting to do more extreme type videos from jumping out of a plan nude to fucking a real Amish man. She talks about her divorce and how sexually empowered she feels when she does a GB plus more.
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Express that and explore that isbecause of how dangerous and how
like harmful homophobia is within male communities right.
Like if you go out and kiss a guy, you might get fucking
jumped right? Like if you kiss a guy on the
street. Now, this isn't to say it's.
Yeah, because I know it gave youthe goddamn people.
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You go to these conventions, it gives you confirmation of how
tall you have grown in your career.
And also, I'm pretty sure you had a bunch of the top towns
that you haven't shot with, say,we've seen your video.
Yes, yes, I've had people who come up who can make money off
of it. But see, you think about these.
OK, let's just keep it 1 honey, the girls nowadays don't give a
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fuck about the money. They want to go back.
Well. Yeah, so, so it's kind of like
the girl, a lot of the girls that don't show their face with
their feet. It ain't because they make more
money with the feedback to whereyou're not doing the content
housing, you're shooting content.
But you're not sure what everybody got there.
Mama. Now just kind of the circled and
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closed up a little bit to make yourself.
Hey, see, as you see, we got a new a new intro.
Oh, and OK, I I've been I have talked about you on the podcast
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you Lily Phillips, body blue. I call y'all the Queens of
gangbang, you know, period. And for you, what got you into
doing the gang bangs? 2023 So in 2022 I was still
doing pretty much solo. It was like December.
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I think it was December 2022, I did my first BG and then I've
been wanting to do a gang bang for the longest time.
In 2022 I was manifesting one for 2023 and I didn't really
know how to go about it. I didn't want it to be with
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creators, I wanted it to be withregular guys because I like
being different. And I told myself if I'm going
to do 1, I want to make sure that it's going to be something
that's going to go viral becauseI don't want to just do a
gangbang and then, you know, people don't know I did 1.
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So I started doing them in 2023 with Tadpole.
Oh my God, and. He saw all the guys for me.
Oh my goodness. And that's crazy because I'm
trying to think, yeah, when we talked, you had that.
Yeah, you had. You probably done your first, I
think, boy girl when we had talked.
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I believe we talked in 20/20. It had to be 20/20.
It was 2024. It was beginning because in 2023
I did not have I. I didn't have a publicist.
OK. Or did I?
I might have had I, I don't remember it's.
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I think he was about to get one at the time.
I caught you right at the cusp. Oh, yeah.
You know, I think it was in January or February was right
after, Yeah. It was like right after AVN, but
it was like some I, I think it was around.
Yeah, not that I think about it.It's I can never remember, but
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in 2023 is when I had started doing interviews and stuff.
So that's probably when we had talked in 2023 because that's
when I started my stuff started going more mainstream out in the
news. So, yeah.
And. I real quick.
Yeah, it. Was like, it was like, I swear
it was like damn normal. 2-3 months.
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Never, you know, I'm seeing you in the news.
And then of course, which we're going to talk about the 50 man
game that she did with Lily Phillips.
We got to talk about that because people don't realize how
much it takes to put there. But gangbang, it takes a lot of
work and it's not easy. So we better let me speak to
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So there you go. Now we haven't seen this lady in
a long time. Since then, she's became one of
the most viral porn stars in thegame.
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She's became the queen of the Game Bank.
And as we will discuss later on,she got more controversial
because she's talking about getting her knees sucking the
Dick in the church. Anyway, I'm not none of it being
the great thing. Sexy, freaky and trust and
believe will be legendary. None of again.
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Wisconsin tip. Say hello to the smokers, baby.
Hello. Oh my God.
So how did you hook up with LilyPhillips and how did y'all put
this together? I discovered her right around
when my anal gangbang went viral.
And I think the reason why mine went viral is because their
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stuff went viral. So then people I didn't even
know who they were until after my my anal gangbang in the fall
was going all over the Internet and I found Lily and I followed
her and I followed Bonnie after I discovered her, but I followed
Lily. And then when she saw what I was
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doing, she reached out to me andshe said she really liked my
stuff. And I said Oh my God, thank you
so much. And then I reached back out to
her and I said do you want to doa gang bang?
And she said she would love to do 1.
I told her I'm really good with finding guys if you need any
like help with it at all. And I told her I I pretty much
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organized the gangbangs on my own now that I've gotten some
experience. So we decided we were going to
do a gangbang and I asked her how many do you want to do?
And I thought she was going to say like 20 and she said 50.
And I was like, Oh my God, OK, Iguess we'll do this.
You should have gone. She's going to do more than 20.
This girl that came off 100 man gangbang 20 is 20 is light for
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her. Well, she did 100 in a day.
She didn't do she did 100 in a day and then I've done 100 where
I was at a gangbang 2 years ago,or was, yeah, it was two years
ago. I was in AI was a fluffer at 100
guy gangbang. So I was just, I never had done
anything like that. I wasn't expecting that many.
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I thought maybe like 20 cuz like50 is a lot to organize.
So I was like, OK, And then she said she thinks she's like, oh,
I think I want to do some anal. So I was like, OK, I'm like,
let's do all anal because she's like, OK, yeah, let's do that.
And. They got balls.
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So I ended up making an ad. I need as many guys for a gang
bang. At first I didn't, I didn't post
this ad that I was going to be with her because at first I said
I was. And then I had, I started having
guys who didn't want to film with me unless she was going to
be there. And I actually rejected those
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guys. I ignored them because I'm like,
if you're coming to a gang bang and you have no, you're not
interested in being with me at all and you don't want to
experience both of us, that is, I'm not doing that.
And the same with her. Like I wouldn't feel comfortable
if a guy was like, oh, I only want to go there if you're going
to be there. So it's not fair.
So I ended up rejecting a few ofthe guys.
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I didn't even say anything to them.
I didn't reply to them because Imean, it was just kind of rude
that they would say that to me. And like, you're going to say
that you don't want, you're onlygoing to be there if she's
there. So you're not going to you're
not getting on this list. So I just ignored.
So anyways, it didn't matter because we had so many guys that
applied and I added them to another group and I had to make
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sure like they had their valid ID and everything was legit.
I was pretty much the organizer of it.
So finding all those guys took around, I want to say like a
month and then to do it because of the location that we were
shooting at. So once we got that, then we're
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ready to go. So yeah.
And now it's easy for me to to do them on my own because that
was one of the biggest gang bangs I had ever organized on my
own. Because before I would organize,
it'll be like 5-10 guys. But now I got a big one
tomorrow. I have like 250 guys this week.
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And it's going to be all three holes.
No, just. Just just pussy.
Yeah, no, because in. My mouth.
Yeah, because we want to say that because so people can
understand when you do a fan oneversus when you do a porn 1.
So porn can understand These areporn talents.
When you deal with fans, they may not be as delicate with the
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situation as a male talent wouldwhen it come to anal because
anal it's not. It don't take much of A asshole.
I've done it by mistake myself. So for you, how do you calm the
guys down? I know they're excited to get an
opportunity to fact to defend their fancy or fucking two of
the hottest women in porn today.How was you able to calm them
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down so y'all could come out? There won't be hurt, injured or
anything. I've never really had any issues
with them. I mean, the only thing that I
really run into are guys who getnervous and they can't perform.
So other than that I've never had any guys like over perform
or act like they're better than anyone.
I've never had run into that issue.
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I don't really work with a lot of male talent, so I work with
more guys from the Internet likeTwitter, finding them on
websites and stuff then I do with talent.
And the reason why I'm not doingbackdoor is just because I did,
I think I have had that fifty guy.
One was top tier. Like I can't, you can't even
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talk. I don't wanna I I'm like, I'm
like there's I'm like I've been doing anal since I was 16.
So I'm pretty much done with anal for now.
I'm not saying I'm going to be done with it forever, but I
think I got enough viral stuff for that and all.
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But now that, yeah. So even if like there were male
talent, I'm still not doing the back door for this one for this
week. So today, just before this, I
was with a bunch of guys. So then I was like, OK, I got to
clean up and then now I'm back to my place because I went to
another place to film all that. Like a pimp that was outside the
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door, you know? So that would surprise me
because they should be a pimp. Look at look at these women.
Like yeah, I got to see if I canget one.
Well, there was it was at a sleazy motel and I wanted to
film there because it was sleazy.
And there was like, I swear there was like hookers.
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I was like, I don't know what you call them.
They were like, they like jail. Like they were.
So, yeah, my one guy was like, Ithink there's a pimp outside
parked outside. And I was like, oh, I should
interview him. I could make him some serious
money. Oh.
My God, This is why I miss her. This is why I removed her
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because she had me died after the last the last interview.
So now with you because like I said, you becoming known for the
game man right now and it's interesting how she was doing
gang bang for what it was cool. This year has became the year to
gang bang. A lot of girls are talking about
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doing them. Why has gang bang became the
trend this year? I ain't even going to lie, she's
part of the reason, but I digress.
Why everybody want to be Wisconsin Tiff, Lily Phillips
and Bonnie Blue? So I've been doing gang bangs
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before they became a trend, before they were going viral.
And I didn't really market my gang bangs that the way that I
do now because I didn't really know how to do it.
I didn't know how to do it on mysocials without getting in
trouble. So I would pretty much market
them on X. But honestly you have there's
ways that you have to market them.
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But I went viral around the sametime that Bonnie and Lily went
viral with their stuff. And then people see that and now
everybody wants to do it. And I actually had some people
say that I've been copying and Ihaven't because I've been
honestly there. I have people saying I was
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Bonnie 2 point O and that I was copying her.
And I'm like, I'm not copying her.
We literally I've been I think she joined like she joined.
She's only been in the industry for maybe a year and a half or
so. She's and I was doing them way
longer before her. I just didn't market them the
way that she markets it. So anyways with that being said
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I have no hate or anything it's just that people just they don't
know about me because they just discovered me and now that I.
Because the reason I ain't even interrupt is she done Gunny
bangs rebel rider. Hey, we we, we all know how she
gets down. So people act like the 100 man
gang bang was something new. You did close, you did that,
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your girl Rebel Rider doing that.
So what Bonnie Blue and Lily Phillips did is nothing new to a
circumstance, you know, period. So why is it that everyone
thought that you copied, which Iunderstand that, yeah, you
didn't promote it well, But if any people that know the injury
know that Tiffany gets down likethat, you hear what I'm saying?
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Even I knew that period because we talked about it.
Yeah, so. Why did everyone think if you
caught me then when you were doing it before they even
thought about it? Because I found a new way to
market my stuff. And I think because or not only
that, but because the other person's stuff went bigger.
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So they thought because they hadnever seen me.
But now I don't really, I don't get told that anymore because
they they see that I've been doing it for a long time.
But also I've established myselfvery well where people see like
this is just how I've been doingthings.
So the reason why is because a lot of things were going way
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more viral and she's very good at how she markets.
So, but I've been really good with my marketing in the last, I
think it was like September, thelast year was a really hard
year. So I kind of took a break from
things, from not marketing as hard as I normally did.
I just was like re evaluating how I'm presenting myself on the
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Internet. And then September came around
and I was like, OK, I need to goat it hard.
And I started marketing really well.
I started changing how I was doing things, making it more of
a business than taking it as being personal type, social
media being more business like, and it's works because I found a
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way that works for me. So now I love this because, see,
people always wanted to do a blasphemy scene, you feel me?
And I found an article on which I think you was on Us Weekly and
you were discussing about your plans for, you know, playing
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content. And one of the things you were
talking about doing was doing a scene with a priest.
And you were talking about, you know what I'm saying, possibly
shooting in a, a church or what have you.
Now, the question I asked you isa lot of people would say this,
that you're trying to go viral but shouldn't have done 15 times
old, but I digress. It is this for value like this?
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Are you doing this for clout or creativity purposes?
Because a lot of time people take what we do is trying to be
clout when we're trying to extend our content, extend our
content creation. You feel where I'm coming from?
So for you, which one is it? So the fans could know?
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Because Lodi, I want these fuckers be thinking that he's
just doing shit for clout. You already got it.
They ain't nothing. They ain't much more you can do.
I, I feel like anything that goes super viral, people are
going to think is for clout because I, I want to see how I
want to push the limits because I've already, I mean, I'm
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getting bored and I want to see like, what else can I do?
But I had to take a step back because I was going to do the
church stuff this week, but I had to take a step back.
And I'm like, I'm really worriedabout the the people, like
coming after me. Yeah.
And put. And because I had some guy
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threaten me and tell me that I will come off you if you come
into the church. And I'm like thinking I'm like,
OK, well, that sounds very loving and caring and you know
what? I'm going to squirt all over
your church. I didn't say that, but that's
what I was thinking. And I, I have connections to a
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pastor and a church because I was telling my friend and he's
like, I have this friend. It's not in a state so I have to
go out of state and he would come with me because I don't
want to go alone. I'm so scared about doing that
because religion is one thing that could just not turn well.
And I'm like. He's gonna have to leave her
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when she wanted hijab. She.
Called hell when Mia Khalifa didthe scene with the hair jab the
Muslim guard. She called hell.
But the the the reason why I came at the time it was doing, I
think around 911 when when when that went down.
And so of course she got it fromthe Muslim community.
You feel what I'm saying? And we're here to wait.
I mean to tell you this, these Christians are the most violent
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people. They are, and I used to be super
religious and they're so mean. Like they talk about that.
And honestly, I'm like, I don't think they understand what what
the big picture is. Because when you think about it,
the only way you can have true Christianity is not being
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attached to a church. And and that's just, and there's
so many different religions and you're basically saying like
your church is better than them or you celebrate Pagan holidays
and they don't see the bigger picture.
And I'm like, and they're so mean.
And they would come and they would probably like hang me and
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like burn me on a stick and do awful things to me.
I had this guy make a response video and he told me that I
should be rocked to death to stop the, the stuff.
And I'm thinking I'm like, OK, and and then talking about
judgement and stuff. And I'm just like, I think you
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don't really know what you're talking about because that
sounds evil. And then they they think like,
because what I'm doing is evil. But what they're doing is
they're connected to A to a church, which isn't real
Christianity. That's not, you don't have to.
They're like, what's up? Let's keep going, honey.
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How many movies have we seen that involved the church, that
involved church scandals, that has involved exorcisms, all
these shit such for and so forth, so.
Many. People, I sit here and watch a
fight scene in a church. Stop playing.
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We are actors, we are actresses.This is no different issue with
doing a movie about church. It's just different.
She's just sucking Dick in one. You feel me?
I mean, but glad to me, it's kind of like, how can I put
this? Our job is to test the IT is to
push the values with our content.
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The reason why they give stories, you know, period.
What's the difference between you doing that and you doing a
scene where you're a murderer? You're coming from, you know
what I'm saying? You know you're a vampire.
You know, to me you catching hell for wanting to do a scene
in the church with a pastor. By the way, you know how many
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pastors and their wives are swingers on the?
Level a lot. I did stuff once.
So I know I don't know, people don't know about this, but when
I was I'm a teenager, I used to be AI used to go to church
religiously from like Sundays, every Wednesdays.
When I was a teenager, there wasthis old man who would do stuff
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to me and in the church, he would touch my butt.
I would go up the stairs and he's like, I've been dreaming
about you all night long. And he's like, I just want to do
all this stuff to you. And this was in a church and
like all these people think like, and then they are like, Oh
my gosh. And they, they can't believe
that anything. I've never said anything like
that. I hope my dad doesn't hear.
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So anyways, with that being said, there's a lot of things
that happen in the church. It's the same with Amish.
People think that Amish people are so wholesome and stuff.
I mean, they are in their ways, but they like to drink and they
like to party. And those kids get away with so
much stuff and they be doing stuff in the barn and, and
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because they don't have the samerules that apply, they get away
with a lot more because they're,they don't have like a bunch of
eyes on them. And I, I have connections to
this Amish guy. So I.
I'm sorry, I think I'll be a hotass scene to do an Amish porn
scene. I am sorry, that would be fire.
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And two, why the fuck y'all trip?
Y'all do remember the Amish mafia, right?
I do remember that show. Y'all do remember that.
Lord have mercy, y'all be actinglike some of these big people in
these religion. These religious sects ain't
freaks. Get the fuck out of.
Here they are, they are. And you know, I always want my
stuff to be 100% authentic. So I had to find this real Amish
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guy and he got my Snapchat, but it's from his neighbors.
So we're gonna, we have to set up a thing, but I don't know how
we're going to do it without getting in trouble.
So I'm the person like I'm the neighbor, but I'm like, can we
get in your horse and buggy? And he said sure, he just has to
make sure, please. If you do that fuck in the horse
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and buggy while the horse and buggy is moving, that would be.
Fine camera guy, but we got to do it secretly.
So like the other Amish because they would freak out.
But I was like, do you have any like other guys that would want
to do stuff in a barn? Cuz I'm like but then I'm like
do they even have IDs? I didn't even ask him that cuz
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I'm like I can't even put that. State they got to anywhere here.
They can live in this country without it, No way.
OK, I, I know that they do things differently.
So I was like, OK, well, if theycan't have, if they don't have
ID's or anything like if they just have like a work card, you
know where they can work and they but anyways, so I'm like,
OK, well, maybe I'll just sell this stuff on my Snap premium.
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Yeah, because I noticed that andI because I saw that Bonnie got
kicked off. Of yes.
And why now are they trying to make gangbang derogatory?
Because to me it how can I put this Why it is making it harder?
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They're making it harder for us to distribute our content.
Let's make it clear by the rule changes.
And if you want that does gangbangs, it makes it harder
for you to put your shit somewhere, especially you don't
have a website, a stand alone website, you know, period.
So for you, for people that might, that might be listening,
they looking to do a gang bang, done a gun bang.
How did you figure out how to distribute your stuff?
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A gang bang? Well the reason why her stuff,
why she got banned is because she was she was doing stuff she
wasn't supposed to do on there. And they're very strict about
their TOS. I I don't know if she was
promoting her petting zoo so. Basically they say in the news
article that what it was that that was.
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And you can't even promote you can't, you technically can't
even say zoo because that's related to like animals and
stuff. So maybe that triggered them and
because it was extreme, but for all we know, I mean, how do we
know how extreme it was? So she must have been doing like
other things on there because you have there's a cap.
There's a limit of guys you can have per video in.
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So for real, you can't have morethan 50 people in a single
video. So we, Lily and I capped it out.
We made sure that we had we had to break up the video so that we
can TOS. We read everything.
I read everything. I make sure because I do not
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want to break the rules. But we ended up having our fifty
guy thing taken down and yes, because it's considered extreme.
So we we ended up talking to only fans and we are not going
to put it back up there because we don't want to like break any
rules. So now we can't we're we're
we're going to be very careful with how we promote things.
So like, for example, the 250 guys this week will not be
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marketed towards only fans. But if I do like a group of
guys, I will have it on only fans.
But I have a different place that I'm putting it.
So all of my extreme stuff will be on fans.
Lee, by the way, I need to printoff fans like consent forms
tonight so I can have the guys sign the rest of the guys for
the week to sign 'cause I ran out of forms.
My only thing is about to fall off and fans about to blow up.
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Well, I saw that Only Fans is selling their thing for $8
billion or something. Yeah, but see it it it knows
about 8. I'm be real with you.
They they doing the same thing in Pornhub bids.
Pornhub just basically sold it in house.
So what's going to happen is I put money on this only fan just
gonna sell it to somebody in house.
It ain't really going, ain't nobody.
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And it's probably going to be somebody from Europe now inside
to you, because it seems like Europe owns porn now for most
part. Yeah.
But with you, a lot of people are shocked that women want to
do gangbangs, Miss Daphne said. Every woman fantasizes.
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She may not admit it, but fantasize about Abbott having a
gangbang, being ran through or doing the train.
So for you, what is about a gangbang that gets you off?
What turns you on about doing that many men?
Doing multiple men. All of their hands.
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It feels like a ceremony, like I'm being celebrated, almost
like a ritual. And it is.
Please we don't need think pieces OK youtubers we don't
need y'all be talking about rituals and shit and being sex
back. No they it ain't that deep.
Go ahead, babe. So it feels, it feels like a
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ceremony to me that I'm being celebrated.
And you know, before I did all of the gang bangs, I did stuff
before this, obviously not on camera.
I remember asking my ex-husband who was my high school
sweetheart, and this was after Ihad left him and we are still in
that phase of it was like the first year on my Only Fans.
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And he wanted me to come back. And I told him we're going back
and forth about things. And I told him that, well, we
need to be more open with our sexuality and our sexuality like
things that we want because we need to have better
communication. And I said, well then I want to
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do I want to do a threesome withyou and another guy.
So he reached out to his friend.We never ended up doing it
because his friend said I don't feel comfortable doing this
because I think he could. My ex probably would have gotten
jealous. So anyways, he went to high
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school with us and I don't know if he I mean I'm pretty sure he
seen my stuff on the Internet but he's really good looking and
I want to bang him but I don't know my eyes love.
You. So now I'm going to tell you
what's funny. That was a conversation I had
with my podcast. Would you fuck your ex's best
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friend? And how long would it be?
How long time was passed that isOK to fuck your ex's best
friend? Anytime.
Conversation. I found one of his friends.
I didn't. I I did that, yeah.
Oh my. God a different.
One, and this was during your porn years, during the porn
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years. Baby, I had coworkers that
reached out to me after I have like even after and some of them
are married and I had to tell them no because I'm, I don't, I
don't want, I can't even say this part because I could get I
don't want anything to like happen to him.
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I don't want him to like lose his job or anything because, you
know, so I have connections to something and I'm like, I told
the guy I'm like, I cannot do that.
And he's like, why? And I said because they know
that I'm married to this guy forthat company and he could lose
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his job because anyways, and I don't want to cause any issues.
So fortunately I can't do this thing that I really want to do.
Yeah. So I have to have my limits
there. I wish I could say what it is,
but I can't because I don't wantto get any more help.
But it is a very well known company in the world through
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Wisconsin and they don't have many locations.
So when people find out, they know like, oh damn.
So. So now you seem ambitious with
your content. You know.
For you, because I always talkedabout this, one thing that's
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missing in this day and age thatwe had back in the day is
creativity, coming up with greatscene ideas and stuff of that
nature. And for you, just like a woman
that looks to not necessarily one up the last scene, but you
kind of want it to be not same, same gang bang, different day.
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You get where I'm coming from. Same scene, different day.
So for you, how do you come up with your ideas for your scenes?
You get where I'm coming from. I just think of what is
something that I don't see people doing or I just have
these ideas because I'm a very visual person so I have to see
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things to when I see the vision I get it.
So I know that I wanna jump out of a plane nude and I found a
place that lets you do tandem nude jumps because you really
can't jump nude unless you have cuz you can't do tandem jumps I
think for liability purpose. But I found a place that does so
I have jumped out of planes before.
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So it's not nothing new to me. I, I know Lily Phillips wants to
do 1 where she was mentioning how she wanted to give a guy a
blowjob. I unfortunately don't wanna do
that because you have to have your license and I'm too afraid
to, to not tandem jump. So I would like to tandem jump
nude just for, you know, but once I'm done with these gang
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bangs and stuff because I feel that this is the year where
everything is just like what is going on with these crazy,
ridiculous challenges. Because they are.
And just because I do them doesn't mean other people have
to do them. Because some people are so
focused on feeling like I'm not gonna make any money because I
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can't do those challenges. But there are so many people in
the industry who don't do challenges, who are more like
solo, who are doing very well. And it's not about doing a
trend, it's how well you market yourself.
So there's, there's girls that do that have never had a single
sex tape and they make more thanme.
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And it's all about how you, you,you present yourself.
But once I'm done with these challenges, I want to do more of
like solo type challenges on my own, like jumping out of playing
nude, just doing things on like,I don't know, cuz I get bored.
And I'm like, what else could I do?
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People, I got her nickname. Tiffany Cruz.
Mission Impossible. Oh my God, I have an idea.
I want to go one of those those like jets where it's like 2
people that sit in it. Yeah, I want to.
I want to be, I want to be nakedin it.
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Because it to me it's like I'm actually it it.
Do you you like challenging yourself is Yeah.
Is that something that just innately in you?
Yeah, I don't know if it's 'cause I'm in Aries, but once.
So I used to have a TikTok account when I had first started
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my first year, I had almost, it was like around 1/2 a million
and I wasn't promoting any of mystuff and I would just do the
most outrageous things with my own ideas.
I, I remember I, I was AI did satire Amish stuff where I was
an Amish woman and a lot of people thought I was really
Amish, but then the other peopleknew it was satire.
So I just went along with it. And I did like these, these like
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ring light, ring light challenge.
And I showed my love again. It was funny.
So I'm like, OK, what else can Ido?
So I just try to find ways to challenge myself cuz I get bored
really easily if I'm doing the same thing.
I don't want to do the same thing like with these gangbangs.
One day I might decide like, OK,I want to take a break from
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gangbangs because I've done so many and it's like, OK, it's
obvious Tiffany, you do gangbang.
So I'm like, OK, what else can Ido?
Next thing you know, I'll be a, I'll be, I don't know, I have so
many ideas. So I just, but for me, this is
my take. If I'm going to be doing this
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type of work, I want to make sure that I'm remembered for it.
And that's just how I am. So I don't want to do it.
I don't. Understand why anybody getting
this and they don't think like that.
When I got in it, my thought wasI wanted to make shit that would
stand the test of time. You get what I'm saying, you
know, period. And to me, that's what I see you
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are doing. You know, period that you're
making. See their status tests, a time
that will stand out and improvements in the pudding.
She went viral. You got some girls fighting to
go one time. She went viral a couple of
times. So viral is nothing new for her,
you know, period. But this is the question I
asked. You have a lot of girls that try
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to damage to go viral for you isgoing viral to end all be all
and it and and and why do peoplewant to go viral not
understanding that it's more to it than that.
Whenever I have stuff go viral, I don't.
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Some of the stuff I never intentionally think it's going
to go viral, but for me it's I. This is my mindset.
Don't try to feel like you're going to go viral.
Just do things and enjoy it because if you enjoy it, it's
going to go viral. And if you don't want it to go
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viral, it might go viral becauseI had something that did and I
never sent that to the press. I never, I don't, I'm like, how,
why, why, what? And I like called my, my one of
my best friends up and I'm like,you're not going to believe
this. I'm like, I didn't even like
talk to my publicist about it. I didn't even like send it to
the press. I'm like, I don't understand,
but most of my stuff I don't. But it was like one thing that I
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never even thought was going to mean anything and they took it
so serious. So anyways, I always tell people
just have fun with it because ifyou're constantly trying to go
viral and you're not, you're only going to upset yourself
because when I had first starteddoing all of this work.
I didn't have intentions of going well, I would make a
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TikTok and be like, oh, I hope it goes viral.
But my my thing was is that I just wanted to make enough so I
could survive on my own because I had just left my ex-husband
and I had never been on my own. And I just wanted to make enough
so that I could live on my own. And going viral was my way of
feeling like I'm going to be OK.I'm going to like have money,
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but I would always like get disappointed.
But even though my stuff I did pretty well my very first month
on only fans, I made like $6000 and that was from like doing
live streams on only fans and really pushing it.
So I obviously that's nothing compared to like what people
make, but I feel like that beingthe first month because I hear a
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lot of my friends who who are super big, like there's this one
girl, I think what was it? Midwest Emma?
She's pretty. She's pretty successful.
She makes millions a year and she doesn't show her face.
And she was one of my inspirations for doing my bed
knob because she did her tractoror her excavator knob thing kind
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of thing. And she made $300 her first
month. So when I found I was like, OK,
but I, I didn't, I the only reason I made what I did is
because I told the guys I neededto leave my ex-husband.
So the guys were like sending meextra money and I would do live
streams and just flash. And then they would like give me
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extra. And then they were sending me
stuff for my wish list for like my new place that I needed.
And but, yeah, it took me a while to figure out how to go
viral. And it was when I had let go of
being seen because I was afraid of like, oh, what if?
So, the minute that you are not afraid of being seen, not
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letting people like, who cares? Because if you're gonna, you're
never gonna do anything. If you're if you're worried
about who's gonna see you just do whatever.
And yeah, but if anybody's watching this and they're ever
self doubting themselves, just give it time because I have been
doing this for over 4 years and it took me 4 years to get to
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this point. And I just, I just put myself
out there and just try to be as authentic as I can.
Sometimes I like to post satire stuff, some days I like to be
real. But I started treating my stuff
like a business. Once I started treating it like
that I just when my income really skyrocketed.
Running people didn't. Once again that word comes up
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business. How many times I keep trying to
tell y'all it's a business? So now the other question is
tight casting. Do you worry that you be tight
casting is the gang bang girl? What do you mean?
Meaning that for example, right,the biggest word and the biggest
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argument is these civilians have, but you know, we're
talking about you vanilla fuckers that once you do the
gang bang, you can't come back and doing boy, girl or any other
type scene. You have to just keep doing more
numbers and more numbers and no numbers.
But that's not the truth. You feel what I'm saying?
Oh yeah, no, I, I do pretty wellon all my stuff.
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It just depends on the type of boy girl content.
So you don't have to keep going further and further.
In fact, if you're doing so muchof one thing, doing like
starting to add in something might make them interest.
Like, oh, I haven't seen her do one guy in forever.
So of course I want to know whatit's like to see her with one
guy. So I think a lot of people feel
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that once they're doing something, they're stuck with
that. And it's like you don't have to
keep doing that. You can do anything.
It's all about how you present yourself and market yourself.
Yeah, because to me it's it. The bigger mistake I think is if
a girl does nothing but gang bangs and she don't give us a
regular boy girl or a solo. Because I'm a firm believer you
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don't want the fan when he comeson your site to say no, you have
everything that they want, you know, period.
If they're looking for the gang bang, they want the if they did
gang bangers there, they're looking for threesome is there
and so forth. Now this is a question I wanted
to ask is that when it comes to I'm trying to think when it
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comes to the OK, when it comes to the game maker, we talking
about that a little bit for you.Why is Why is it hard to believe
that a woman wants to be gangbanged?
Well, I believe that social media has started exploding,
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obviously, and gangbangs have been going on since the caveman
days. And people don't realize, like,
gangbangs have been in pornos for years.
But because of social media and people are talking about it in a
safer work way, people who have never think, like, how could
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somebody ever do that? Yeah.
So more people are finding out about them, and they don't
believe that people would want to do them when it's just that
they haven't heard about it. And they've been going on for so
many years. And it's very primal, so.
Yeah, because if when we saw himin movies there was always
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violent, it was non consensual, you know, So I remember the one
that I can't think of a doggone name.
Zoolander had a game or had a orgy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You feel what I'm saying?
And please explain to people howsexually empowering a gang bang
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is for a woman. I feel because there's so many
hands. Sorry I'm trying to see if my
boobs are even. I'm not wearing a no.
No, you good that we enjoying that even smokers we'll try to
get on the premium smoke room. One time some boots like this
high and like it's like why are they doing that?
Like one boob will I'll be like in there because they're so big.
One will be up here and be like a little.
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Nipple popping. Out I was like is something
wrong with my boobs because one boobs up high no.
So then I have to adjust them sothey're even sorry.
That's why I was like, I hope they're not even thinking
there's something wrong with my boobs and there's nothing wrong.
They're just big. So sorry, what was the question?
I forgot the question. Look at your boobs.
I'm seeing nipple popping now I'm seeing like.
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Something about gang bang? Yeah, now how sexually
empowering is for a woman because they don't realize I
always said this. America Christianity you know
what they're scared of a sexually fluid when I ain't
going to say fluid sexually not sexually oppressed.
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I'm trying to find the right word.
Excuse me sexually confident, knowing of herself and sexually
comfortable woman. You get what I'm saying They
they they they they don't like that they don't they don't like
a woman that wants to be in a gangbang.
They don't like a woman that wants to be treated as such or
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come on a Boo cocky and so forth.
You know, period. So that's why I said to me, the
ultimate expression of sexuality, sexual power, sexual
consent is a gang bang because you have all these men around
this one woman or and in some cases now two women and these
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women want it. So once again the question I
come to you is why is it so hardfor people to believe and
understand that there are women on this planet that love being
gang bang? They enjoy it, they welcome it.
Actuality, they get bored with one-on-one sex sometimes.
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I feel because people are very sheltered and they don't
realize, like, there's more to life than just being with one
person. But also not only that, but if
they're using religion as a thing, you know, I mean, I
understand, you know, we got to keep people in order and we
can't have a bunch of people doing gang bangs and stuff
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because before we know it, if people find out that people from
the church and stuff are doing it, that's going to mess with,
like, not breaking the rules. Yeah.
So it's going to be great. Everything is a circle and a
system and unfortunately I like to break those rules.
And for some reason my social, sometimes my reels make men
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question their ego and they get really upset with me because one
of my guys that we like to role play, he likes to pretend he's
gonna go last and all this and it makes men who uncomfortable
and call me a gold digger. So I like to, I like to make
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those type of men mad at me because it's funny.
I find it funny when they say a woman, a gold digger, basically
makes her own goddamn money. So I had to push you a gold.
Digger Well, that's because the captions I put are like this old
man said, I'm worth every penny,even if it means his entire
retirement if he gets to be withme.
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And that's what makes them upsetand they and they, and they
think like, I'm just stealing this little man's money when in
fact we're, I'm like, yeah, cuz I set up the camera.
They're like, you never kissed him.
I'm like, I'm like, I don't think you realize, like I'm just
so good at, at making men peoplemad.
And even with like women, they get mad.
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This one woman said that's disgusting.
And you know what I said, I saidor no, she said I was disgusting
in one of my my gang bangs whereit was like this, all the guys
lining up and I said, I think I recognized your husband and he
was in her profile photo. Some people liked it.
And I was like, no, she no, he wasn't.
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He wasn't there. And I didn't respond back.
And I'm like, God, this woman really is insecure.
She. Really.
Did you go to the bitches gangbang?
What you talking about? And you don't know what I'm
talking about. I'm like, ha, ha, ha, ha.
I made you question. You really thought your ex or
you really thought your husband was at my gangbang.
But. But to me it's this is the other
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thing I hate. Y'all catch flat for the gang
bang. They don't say nothing about the
dudes that come to the gang bang.
Yeah, they think that, that I have had some people comment
they're they're like, you give all these women a hard time.
What about the men who and you know, some people think that
because I've been with so many guys that they think like, no
one's going to want me and no one's going to want to marry me.
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And I'm like, I've been married.I was with my my husband for 17
freaking years. I was with him and I left him
cuz he didn't treat me nicely. So I finally got the courage to
leave and it was really scary and I was really depressed cuz I
didn't want to. But for the sake of our mental
health and not repeating like circles I had to leave and I've
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been married. I know what it's like and
obviously not every marriage is like ours but I don't really
care to get married again. I don't and they're like 01 day.
I'm almost 40. I'm sorry, but when I'm when I'm
50, do you think like in 10 years, do I look like I want to
get married You and like, huh? You're almost 40.
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Yeah, I'm almost 40. I'm 37.
I'll be 38 soon tell. Me.
You were 28, maybe 25. Thank you.
So I I, yeah, I take care of myself.
Once I left my ex-husband, I hadto glow up.
I started looking younger and, but if I ever do decide to be
with a guy, obviously it's not going to be like a certain type
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of guy. Cuz why would I try to make a
man like me when I have so many guys who are OK And, and I think
like it's so wrong. And I'm like, there's so many
people who are accepting of whatI do.
And even if I stopped doing it, who knows?
Like if, even if I stopped doingit, maybe they don't want to do
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it anymore. And the fact that they get to be
with me and they know that I'm afreak and stuff.
But yeah, I don't know what the future holds, but I don't plan
on ever getting married again. I really don't, and if I did, if
I did get married again, I wouldwant to have a really nice
wedding because I didn't get a really.
I got married in Vegas. Oh God.
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It was I was just I, I had my dress was $3.
It wasn't Elvis, that marriage. It wasn't.
What's up? It wasn't Elvis, that marriage.
It wasn't. We got married at the one where
they had an Elvis impersonation,but this was many years ago.
Not the one, not the the old manthat one was.
That one was was a skit. But it turned bad because that
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guy treated me. So he got he legit turned into
an A hole after the freaking staged wedding.
And then I told him not to contact me anymore.
So I was like, OK, well I have just got to pretend that I got
divorced to this guy cuz so I can use all this content cuz I
spent, I spent so much money. I spent all, I spent a ton of
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money on that venue, the limo, the tip, the food, like
everything to make it legit. And I lost out on all that cuz
he got jealous and he started telling me he didn't want me
doing gangbangs and this. And I'm like, dude, we're not
even freaking married. Like what are you talking about?
And he didn't want anything to do with me at Exotica and I
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wanted him to cut. He was like acting like I was
ignoring him. And I'm like, I'm not ignoring
you. I need to go to or not Exotica
AVN. I'm like, I have to go there.
Like that's why we're here. And if you want to spend some
time with me, come with me to AVN at the Expo.
I don't I, I'm like, I already spent so much money.
I have to network with other people.
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And if you come with me and people see that, they'll want to
talk to you too, because you're talking about how you wanted to
do like only fans and stuff. Because he, and I mean, he's an
old man, so I don't know if he'dfigure it out.
But anyways, my real husband, who our divorce is finally going
to be finalized very soon. It's been four years in the
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making. Thankfully, we're like, we're
not. It's it's more so personal
reasons. It's not that we've been
fighting or anything. It's just so anyways, I've been
married. It takes money to divorce, so
people can understand that it takes money.
Our divorce, Our divorce isn't that much.
I left him everything. It's more so it's like we've
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been together for so long and it's kind of scary to think
about. We had, we're almost like we are
kind of like soul mates playing twins, but we are not meant for
each other. So I don't think I'll ever find
a guy like that, that I'll connect on that level.
Cuz anyways, if I ever did get married again, I would want to
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have it be very meaningful. Not in Vegas.
I would want it at a beautiful venue.
Yeah, so, but I I don't plan on getting married again.
So all the people that think like, I won't find a good man, I
have. There's so many good men out
there. Just because they do this stuff
doesn't mean that they're wrong.Because think about all the
husbands who are secretly doing it and they have like the white
(55:58):
picket fence. At least the guys I do it are
upfront and honest about it. Yeah.
And to eat we we can find love in the industry.
We can find love with swingers, we can find love with another
person that is understanding andthe keyword respectful of what
we do. You know, period.
And I've been saying this. Any dude that got an issue with
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a woman's body count, you are sobeta.
I'm an alpha. I don't give a fuck with the
hell she fucked before me. She could fuck 1000 people
before me. There's only one bomb, you know,
period. That I remember a girlfriend, a
guy asked her body count one. I never maybe I come from the
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generation. We never asked that nor do we
care. But I guess it's this
generation. Y'all give a shit.
She said 1000 people. He got up and left and I'm like,
that just means she seasoned virgin.
You want a version ain't Dick shit.
Did you complain about that? She don't want to suck Dick.
Yeah, she's a virgin motherfucker.
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Oh my God. So, but to me, I, like I said,
how do you feel to be that this last thing to be known as one of
the gang bang Queens because youhave the people that the anal
queen, you won the big three of the gang bangs.
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How do you feel to be on that list and to be considered the
queen of the gang bang? I love it.
I love the fact that the hard work I've put in is paying off
because my whole thing is if I'mgoing to do something, I might
as well be known for it. And I feel that I am America's
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biggest three O 4. And you know, cuz the other two
girls are from overseas. Yeah, England.
So yeah. And I'm here in the United
States, and I'm proud to be America's biggest fork.
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And with that being said, people, we, they have this lady
up here for an hour. So you know what we got to do?
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But yeah. So smokers, what did you smoke
over the day? What did you learn?
Let me tell you what quick what you learned.
First of all, gang bangs are beautiful.
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We are going to learn a woman that controls her sexuality is
the most powerless woman on thisplanet.
I don't like that. That's why I don't like women
that do gang bangs because they control that.
They want it, they ask for it. As you heard she put it
together, you feel me? And a lot of women would love to
(01:00:19):
be ran through. They just ain't got the balls to
say it. See, we got to find what works
for us and take it and make money with it.
You feel me? And at the same token, don't be
a slave to your trends. You feel me?
Because that trend will end and you stuck.
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See there's a lady here that thinks ahead of the trends.
See if y'all know this. Just on top of that, she always
tried to one of herself with creativity, not with the sexual
act. Where y'all fucker be with the
creativity? See, yeah, she might have done
A50 man gang bang, but then she going to come up with another
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gang bang. They got a storyline.
They're going to make it pop more.
And she also proved my point about being viral.
You can go viral, but you ain't got a plan to back that viral.
It was a waste of a viral momentbecause you ain't going to gain
nothing from me. She gained a lot.
So y'all have a lot to learn from Miss Wisconsin Tiff.
It's a reason why she will be a future Hall of Fame.
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It's a reason why she's probablyone of the best performers in
this business as we speak. It's a reason why she went viral
not once, not twice, multiple times.
Because let me tell you why she went viral.
It was because the gang bangs. It's because she's Wisconsin
Tiff. That's the argument I had with
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someone. Is it the act that makes it
viral? The person, it's the person
because if you go viral, they don't know who the fuck you is.
Ain't nobody going to go look for you neither.
You feel me? So And she said the magic word
of the day, business. Every move she makes, she thinks
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business. Your gang bangs business.
Even with the church scene, it'sbusiness.
Why? Because they're going to make
you fuckers go watch. Because it's too extreme.
If she jump out of that plane butt ass *** sucking the Dick,
y'all don't watch. Why?
Because it's business. She's trying to find a way to
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bring y'all in. What she's creating is a package
that will make you invest in heremotionally first, financially
second. Working to me.
So with that being said, you know, we're in these things all
day, every day. Life is a learning experience.
What's the point of the experience if you haven't
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learned anything? Smoke this over.
Don't go nowhere. I got to talk to you on the
other end of the outro. OK.
Say goodbye to him, Miss Tiff. Bye you.
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None.
Express that and explore that isbecause of how dangerous and how
like harmful homophobia is within male communities right.
Like if you go out and kiss a guy, you might get fucking
jumped right? Like if you kiss a guy on the
street. Now, this isn't to say it's.
Yeah, because I know it gave youthe goddamn people.
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You go to these conventions, it gives you confirmation of how
tall you have grown in your career.
And also, I'm pretty sure you had a bunch of the top towns
that you haven't shot with, say,we've seen your video.
Yes, yes, I've had people who come up who can make money off
of it. But see, you think about these.
OK, let's just keep it 1 honey, the girls nowadays don't give a
(00:47):
fuck about the money. They want to go back.
Well. Yeah, so, so it's kind of like
the girl, a lot of the girls that don't show their face with
their feet. It ain't because they make more
money with the feedback to whereyou're not doing the content
housing, you're shooting content.
But you're not sure what everybody got there.
Mama. Now just kind of the circled and
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closed up a little bit to make yourself.
Hey, see, as you see, we got a new a new intro.
Oh, and OK, I I've been I have talked about you on the podcast
(01:32):
you Lily Phillips, body blue. I call y'all the Queens of
gangbang, you know, period. And for you, what got you into
doing the gang bangs? 2023 So in 2022 I was still
doing pretty much solo. It was like December.
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I think it was December 2022, I did my first BG and then I've
been wanting to do a gang bang for the longest time.
In 2022 I was manifesting one for 2023 and I didn't really
know how to go about it. I didn't want it to be with
(02:14):
creators, I wanted it to be withregular guys because I like
being different. And I told myself if I'm going
to do 1, I want to make sure that it's going to be something
that's going to go viral becauseI don't want to just do a
gangbang and then, you know, people don't know I did 1.
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So I started doing them in 2023 with Tadpole.
Oh my God, and. He saw all the guys for me.
Oh my goodness. And that's crazy because I'm
trying to think, yeah, when we talked, you had that.
Yeah, you had. You probably done your first, I
think, boy girl when we had talked.
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I believe we talked in 20/20. It had to be 20/20.
It was 2024. It was beginning because in 2023
I did not have I. I didn't have a publicist.
OK. Or did I?
I might have had I, I don't remember it's.
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I think he was about to get one at the time.
I caught you right at the cusp. Oh, yeah.
You know, I think it was in January or February was right
after, Yeah. It was like right after AVN, but
it was like some I, I think it was around.
Yeah, not that I think about it.It's I can never remember, but
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in 2023 is when I had started doing interviews and stuff.
So that's probably when we had talked in 2023 because that's
when I started my stuff started going more mainstream out in the
news. So, yeah.
And. I real quick.
Yeah, it. Was like, it was like, I swear
it was like damn normal. 2-3 months.
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Never, you know, I'm seeing you in the news.
And then of course, which we're going to talk about the 50 man
game that she did with Lily Phillips.
We got to talk about that because people don't realize how
much it takes to put there. But gangbang, it takes a lot of
work and it's not easy. So we better let me speak to
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So there you go. Now we haven't seen this lady in
a long time. Since then, she's became one of
the most viral porn stars in thegame.
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She's became the queen of the Game Bank.
And as we will discuss later on,she got more controversial
because she's talking about getting her knees sucking the
Dick in the church. Anyway, I'm not none of it being
the great thing. Sexy, freaky and trust and
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Wisconsin tip. Say hello to the smokers, baby.
Hello. Oh my God.
So how did you hook up with LilyPhillips and how did y'all put
this together? I discovered her right around
when my anal gangbang went viral.
And I think the reason why mine went viral is because their
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stuff went viral. So then people I didn't even
know who they were until after my my anal gangbang in the fall
was going all over the Internet and I found Lily and I followed
her and I followed Bonnie after I discovered her, but I followed
Lily. And then when she saw what I was
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doing, she reached out to me andshe said she really liked my
stuff. And I said Oh my God, thank you
so much. And then I reached back out to
her and I said do you want to doa gang bang?
And she said she would love to do 1.
I told her I'm really good with finding guys if you need any
like help with it at all. And I told her I I pretty much
(07:41):
organized the gangbangs on my own now that I've gotten some
experience. So we decided we were going to
do a gangbang and I asked her how many do you want to do?
And I thought she was going to say like 20 and she said 50.
And I was like, Oh my God, OK, Iguess we'll do this.
You should have gone. She's going to do more than 20.
This girl that came off 100 man gangbang 20 is 20 is light for
(08:06):
her. Well, she did 100 in a day.
She didn't do she did 100 in a day and then I've done 100 where
I was at a gangbang 2 years ago,or was, yeah, it was two years
ago. I was in AI was a fluffer at 100
guy gangbang. So I was just, I never had done
anything like that. I wasn't expecting that many.
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I thought maybe like 20 cuz like50 is a lot to organize.
So I was like, OK, And then she said she thinks she's like, oh,
I think I want to do some anal. So I was like, OK, I'm like,
let's do all anal because she's like, OK, yeah, let's do that.
And. They got balls.
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So I ended up making an ad. I need as many guys for a gang
bang. At first I didn't, I didn't post
this ad that I was going to be with her because at first I said
I was. And then I had, I started having
guys who didn't want to film with me unless she was going to
be there. And I actually rejected those
(09:13):
guys. I ignored them because I'm like,
if you're coming to a gang bang and you have no, you're not
interested in being with me at all and you don't want to
experience both of us, that is, I'm not doing that.
And the same with her. Like I wouldn't feel comfortable
if a guy was like, oh, I only want to go there if you're going
to be there. So it's not fair.
So I ended up rejecting a few ofthe guys.
(09:35):
I didn't even say anything to them.
I didn't reply to them because Imean, it was just kind of rude
that they would say that to me. And like, you're going to say
that you don't want, you're onlygoing to be there if she's
there. So you're not going to you're
not getting on this list. So I just ignored.
So anyways, it didn't matter because we had so many guys that
applied and I added them to another group and I had to make
(09:58):
sure like they had their valid ID and everything was legit.
I was pretty much the organizer of it.
So finding all those guys took around, I want to say like a
month and then to do it because of the location that we were
shooting at. So once we got that, then we're
(10:19):
ready to go. So yeah.
And now it's easy for me to to do them on my own because that
was one of the biggest gang bangs I had ever organized on my
own. Because before I would organize,
it'll be like 5-10 guys. But now I got a big one
tomorrow. I have like 250 guys this week.
(10:40):
And it's going to be all three holes.
No, just. Just just pussy.
Yeah, no, because in. My mouth.
Yeah, because we want to say that because so people can
understand when you do a fan oneversus when you do a porn 1.
So porn can understand These areporn talents.
When you deal with fans, they may not be as delicate with the
(11:03):
situation as a male talent wouldwhen it come to anal because
anal it's not. It don't take much of A asshole.
I've done it by mistake myself. So for you, how do you calm the
guys down? I know they're excited to get an
opportunity to fact to defend their fancy or fucking two of
the hottest women in porn today.How was you able to calm them
(11:26):
down so y'all could come out? There won't be hurt, injured or
anything. I've never really had any issues
with them. I mean, the only thing that I
really run into are guys who getnervous and they can't perform.
So other than that I've never had any guys like over perform
or act like they're better than anyone.
I've never had run into that issue.
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I don't really work with a lot of male talent, so I work with
more guys from the Internet likeTwitter, finding them on
websites and stuff then I do with talent.
And the reason why I'm not doingbackdoor is just because I did,
I think I have had that fifty guy.
One was top tier. Like I can't, you can't even
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talk. I don't wanna I I'm like, I'm
like there's I'm like I've been doing anal since I was 16.
So I'm pretty much done with anal for now.
I'm not saying I'm going to be done with it forever, but I
think I got enough viral stuff for that and all.
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But now that, yeah. So even if like there were male
talent, I'm still not doing the back door for this one for this
week. So today, just before this, I
was with a bunch of guys. So then I was like, OK, I got to
clean up and then now I'm back to my place because I went to
another place to film all that. Like a pimp that was outside the
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door, you know? So that would surprise me
because they should be a pimp. Look at look at these women.
Like yeah, I got to see if I canget one.
Well, there was it was at a sleazy motel and I wanted to
film there because it was sleazy.
And there was like, I swear there was like hookers.
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I was like, I don't know what you call them.
They were like, they like jail. Like they were.
So, yeah, my one guy was like, Ithink there's a pimp outside
parked outside. And I was like, oh, I should
interview him. I could make him some serious
money. Oh.
My God, This is why I miss her. This is why I removed her
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because she had me died after the last the last interview.
So now with you because like I said, you becoming known for the
game man right now and it's interesting how she was doing
gang bang for what it was cool. This year has became the year to
gang bang. A lot of girls are talking about
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doing them. Why has gang bang became the
trend this year? I ain't even going to lie, she's
part of the reason, but I digress.
Why everybody want to be Wisconsin Tiff, Lily Phillips
and Bonnie Blue? So I've been doing gang bangs
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before they became a trend, before they were going viral.
And I didn't really market my gang bangs that the way that I
do now because I didn't really know how to do it.
I didn't know how to do it on mysocials without getting in
trouble. So I would pretty much market
them on X. But honestly you have there's
ways that you have to market them.
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But I went viral around the sametime that Bonnie and Lily went
viral with their stuff. And then people see that and now
everybody wants to do it. And I actually had some people
say that I've been copying and Ihaven't because I've been
honestly there. I have people saying I was
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Bonnie 2 point O and that I was copying her.
And I'm like, I'm not copying her.
We literally I've been I think she joined like she joined.
She's only been in the industry for maybe a year and a half or
so. She's and I was doing them way
longer before her. I just didn't market them the
way that she markets it. So anyways with that being said
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I have no hate or anything it's just that people just they don't
know about me because they just discovered me and now that I.
Because the reason I ain't even interrupt is she done Gunny
bangs rebel rider. Hey, we we, we all know how she
gets down. So people act like the 100 man
gang bang was something new. You did close, you did that,
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your girl Rebel Rider doing that.
So what Bonnie Blue and Lily Phillips did is nothing new to a
circumstance, you know, period. So why is it that everyone
thought that you copied, which Iunderstand that, yeah, you
didn't promote it well, But if any people that know the injury
know that Tiffany gets down likethat, you hear what I'm saying?
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Even I knew that period because we talked about it.
Yeah, so. Why did everyone think if you
caught me then when you were doing it before they even
thought about it? Because I found a new way to
market my stuff. And I think because or not only
that, but because the other person's stuff went bigger.
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So they thought because they hadnever seen me.
But now I don't really, I don't get told that anymore because
they they see that I've been doing it for a long time.
But also I've established myselfvery well where people see like
this is just how I've been doingthings.
So the reason why is because a lot of things were going way
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more viral and she's very good at how she markets.
So, but I've been really good with my marketing in the last, I
think it was like September, thelast year was a really hard
year. So I kind of took a break from
things, from not marketing as hard as I normally did.
I just was like re evaluating how I'm presenting myself on the
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Internet. And then September came around
and I was like, OK, I need to goat it hard.
And I started marketing really well.
I started changing how I was doing things, making it more of
a business than taking it as being personal type, social
media being more business like, and it's works because I found a
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way that works for me. So now I love this because, see,
people always wanted to do a blasphemy scene, you feel me?
And I found an article on which I think you was on Us Weekly and
you were discussing about your plans for, you know, playing
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content. And one of the things you were
talking about doing was doing a scene with a priest.
And you were talking about, you know what I'm saying, possibly
shooting in a, a church or what have you.
Now, the question I asked you isa lot of people would say this,
that you're trying to go viral but shouldn't have done 15 times
old, but I digress. It is this for value like this?
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Are you doing this for clout or creativity purposes?
Because a lot of time people take what we do is trying to be
clout when we're trying to extend our content, extend our
content creation. You feel where I'm coming from?
So for you, which one is it? So the fans could know?
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Because Lodi, I want these fuckers be thinking that he's
just doing shit for clout. You already got it.
They ain't nothing. They ain't much more you can do.
I, I feel like anything that goes super viral, people are
going to think is for clout because I, I want to see how I
want to push the limits because I've already, I mean, I'm
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getting bored and I want to see like, what else can I do?
But I had to take a step back because I was going to do the
church stuff this week, but I had to take a step back.
And I'm like, I'm really worriedabout the the people, like
coming after me. Yeah.
And put. And because I had some guy
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threaten me and tell me that I will come off you if you come
into the church. And I'm like thinking I'm like,
OK, well, that sounds very loving and caring and you know
what? I'm going to squirt all over
your church. I didn't say that, but that's
what I was thinking. And I, I have connections to a
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pastor and a church because I was telling my friend and he's
like, I have this friend. It's not in a state so I have to
go out of state and he would come with me because I don't
want to go alone. I'm so scared about doing that
because religion is one thing that could just not turn well.
And I'm like. He's gonna have to leave her
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when she wanted hijab. She.
Called hell when Mia Khalifa didthe scene with the hair jab the
Muslim guard. She called hell.
But the the the reason why I came at the time it was doing, I
think around 911 when when when that went down.
And so of course she got it fromthe Muslim community.
You feel what I'm saying? And we're here to wait.
I mean to tell you this, these Christians are the most violent
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people. They are, and I used to be super
religious and they're so mean. Like they talk about that.
And honestly, I'm like, I don't think they understand what what
the big picture is. Because when you think about it,
the only way you can have true Christianity is not being
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attached to a church. And and that's just, and there's
so many different religions and you're basically saying like
your church is better than them or you celebrate Pagan holidays
and they don't see the bigger picture.
And I'm like, and they're so mean.
And they would come and they would probably like hang me and
(21:22):
like burn me on a stick and do awful things to me.
I had this guy make a response video and he told me that I
should be rocked to death to stop the, the stuff.
And I'm thinking I'm like, OK, and and then talking about
judgement and stuff. And I'm just like, I think you
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don't really know what you're talking about because that
sounds evil. And then they they think like,
because what I'm doing is evil. But what they're doing is
they're connected to A to a church, which isn't real
Christianity. That's not, you don't have to.
They're like, what's up? Let's keep going, honey.
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How many movies have we seen that involved the church, that
involved church scandals, that has involved exorcisms, all
these shit such for and so forth, so.
Many. People, I sit here and watch a
fight scene in a church. Stop playing.
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We are actors, we are actresses.This is no different issue with
doing a movie about church. It's just different.
She's just sucking Dick in one. You feel me?
I mean, but glad to me, it's kind of like, how can I put
this? Our job is to test the IT is to
push the values with our content.
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The reason why they give stories, you know, period.
What's the difference between you doing that and you doing a
scene where you're a murderer? You're coming from, you know
what I'm saying? You know you're a vampire.
You know, to me you catching hell for wanting to do a scene
in the church with a pastor. By the way, you know how many
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pastors and their wives are swingers on the?
Level a lot. I did stuff once.
So I know I don't know, people don't know about this, but when
I was I'm a teenager, I used to be AI used to go to church
religiously from like Sundays, every Wednesdays.
When I was a teenager, there wasthis old man who would do stuff
(23:32):
to me and in the church, he would touch my butt.
I would go up the stairs and he's like, I've been dreaming
about you all night long. And he's like, I just want to do
all this stuff to you. And this was in a church and
like all these people think like, and then they are like, Oh
my gosh. And they, they can't believe
that anything. I've never said anything like
that. I hope my dad doesn't hear.
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So anyways, with that being said, there's a lot of things
that happen in the church. It's the same with Amish.
People think that Amish people are so wholesome and stuff.
I mean, they are in their ways, but they like to drink and they
like to party. And those kids get away with so
much stuff and they be doing stuff in the barn and, and
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because they don't have the samerules that apply, they get away
with a lot more because they're,they don't have like a bunch of
eyes on them. And I, I have connections to
this Amish guy. So I.
I'm sorry, I think I'll be a hotass scene to do an Amish porn
scene. I am sorry, that would be fire.
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And two, why the fuck y'all trip?
Y'all do remember the Amish mafia, right?
I do remember that show. Y'all do remember that.
Lord have mercy, y'all be actinglike some of these big people in
these religion. These religious sects ain't
freaks. Get the fuck out of.
Here they are, they are. And you know, I always want my
stuff to be 100% authentic. So I had to find this real Amish
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guy and he got my Snapchat, but it's from his neighbors.
So we're gonna, we have to set up a thing, but I don't know how
we're going to do it without getting in trouble.
So I'm the person like I'm the neighbor, but I'm like, can we
get in your horse and buggy? And he said sure, he just has to
make sure, please. If you do that fuck in the horse
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and buggy while the horse and buggy is moving, that would be.
Fine camera guy, but we got to do it secretly.
So like the other Amish because they would freak out.
But I was like, do you have any like other guys that would want
to do stuff in a barn? Cuz I'm like but then I'm like
do they even have IDs? I didn't even ask him that cuz
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I'm like I can't even put that. State they got to anywhere here.
They can live in this country without it, No way.
OK, I, I know that they do things differently.
So I was like, OK, well, if theycan't have, if they don't have
ID's or anything like if they just have like a work card, you
know where they can work and they but anyways, so I'm like,
OK, well, maybe I'll just sell this stuff on my Snap premium.
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Yeah, because I noticed that andI because I saw that Bonnie got
kicked off. Of yes.
And why now are they trying to make gangbang derogatory?
Because to me it how can I put this Why it is making it harder?
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They're making it harder for us to distribute our content.
Let's make it clear by the rule changes.
And if you want that does gangbangs, it makes it harder
for you to put your shit somewhere, especially you don't
have a website, a stand alone website, you know, period.
So for you, for people that might, that might be listening,
they looking to do a gang bang, done a gun bang.
How did you figure out how to distribute your stuff?
(26:56):
A gang bang? Well the reason why her stuff,
why she got banned is because she was she was doing stuff she
wasn't supposed to do on there. And they're very strict about
their TOS. I I don't know if she was
promoting her petting zoo so. Basically they say in the news
article that what it was that that was.
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And you can't even promote you can't, you technically can't
even say zoo because that's related to like animals and
stuff. So maybe that triggered them and
because it was extreme, but for all we know, I mean, how do we
know how extreme it was? So she must have been doing like
other things on there because you have there's a cap.
There's a limit of guys you can have per video in.
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So for real, you can't have morethan 50 people in a single
video. So we, Lily and I capped it out.
We made sure that we had we had to break up the video so that we
can TOS. We read everything.
I read everything. I make sure because I do not
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want to break the rules. But we ended up having our fifty
guy thing taken down and yes, because it's considered extreme.
So we we ended up talking to only fans and we are not going
to put it back up there because we don't want to like break any
rules. So now we can't we're we're
we're going to be very careful with how we promote things.
So like, for example, the 250 guys this week will not be
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marketed towards only fans. But if I do like a group of
guys, I will have it on only fans.
But I have a different place that I'm putting it.
So all of my extreme stuff will be on fans.
Lee, by the way, I need to printoff fans like consent forms
tonight so I can have the guys sign the rest of the guys for
the week to sign 'cause I ran out of forms.
My only thing is about to fall off and fans about to blow up.
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Well, I saw that Only Fans is selling their thing for $8
billion or something. Yeah, but see it it it knows
about 8. I'm be real with you.
They they doing the same thing in Pornhub bids.
Pornhub just basically sold it in house.
So what's going to happen is I put money on this only fan just
gonna sell it to somebody in house.
It ain't really going, ain't nobody.
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And it's probably going to be somebody from Europe now inside
to you, because it seems like Europe owns porn now for most
part. Yeah.
But with you, a lot of people are shocked that women want to
do gangbangs, Miss Daphne said. Every woman fantasizes.
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She may not admit it, but fantasize about Abbott having a
gangbang, being ran through or doing the train.
So for you, what is about a gangbang that gets you off?
What turns you on about doing that many men?
Doing multiple men. All of their hands.
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It feels like a ceremony, like I'm being celebrated, almost
like a ritual. And it is.
Please we don't need think pieces OK youtubers we don't
need y'all be talking about rituals and shit and being sex
back. No they it ain't that deep.
Go ahead, babe. So it feels, it feels like a
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ceremony to me that I'm being celebrated.
And you know, before I did all of the gang bangs, I did stuff
before this, obviously not on camera.
I remember asking my ex-husband who was my high school
sweetheart, and this was after Ihad left him and we are still in
that phase of it was like the first year on my Only Fans.
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And he wanted me to come back. And I told him we're going back
and forth about things. And I told him that, well, we
need to be more open with our sexuality and our sexuality like
things that we want because we need to have better
communication. And I said, well then I want to
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do I want to do a threesome withyou and another guy.
So he reached out to his friend.We never ended up doing it
because his friend said I don't feel comfortable doing this
because I think he could. My ex probably would have gotten
jealous. So anyways, he went to high
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school with us and I don't know if he I mean I'm pretty sure he
seen my stuff on the Internet but he's really good looking and
I want to bang him but I don't know my eyes love.
You. So now I'm going to tell you
what's funny. That was a conversation I had
with my podcast. Would you fuck your ex's best
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friend? And how long would it be?
How long time was passed that isOK to fuck your ex's best
friend? Anytime.
Conversation. I found one of his friends.
I didn't. I I did that, yeah.
Oh my. God a different.
One, and this was during your porn years, during the porn
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years. Baby, I had coworkers that
reached out to me after I have like even after and some of them
are married and I had to tell them no because I'm, I don't, I
don't want, I can't even say this part because I could get I
don't want anything to like happen to him.
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I don't want him to like lose his job or anything because, you
know, so I have connections to something and I'm like, I told
the guy I'm like, I cannot do that.
And he's like, why? And I said because they know
that I'm married to this guy forthat company and he could lose
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his job because anyways, and I don't want to cause any issues.
So fortunately I can't do this thing that I really want to do.
Yeah. So I have to have my limits
there. I wish I could say what it is,
but I can't because I don't wantto get any more help.
But it is a very well known company in the world through
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Wisconsin and they don't have many locations.
So when people find out, they know like, oh damn.
So. So now you seem ambitious with
your content. You know.
For you, because I always talkedabout this, one thing that's
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missing in this day and age thatwe had back in the day is
creativity, coming up with greatscene ideas and stuff of that
nature. And for you, just like a woman
that looks to not necessarily one up the last scene, but you
kind of want it to be not same, same gang bang, different day.
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You get where I'm coming from. Same scene, different day.
So for you, how do you come up with your ideas for your scenes?
You get where I'm coming from. I just think of what is
something that I don't see people doing or I just have
these ideas because I'm a very visual person so I have to see
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things to when I see the vision I get it.
So I know that I wanna jump out of a plane nude and I found a
place that lets you do tandem nude jumps because you really
can't jump nude unless you have cuz you can't do tandem jumps I
think for liability purpose. But I found a place that does so
I have jumped out of planes before.
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So it's not nothing new to me. I, I know Lily Phillips wants to
do 1 where she was mentioning how she wanted to give a guy a
blowjob. I unfortunately don't wanna do
that because you have to have your license and I'm too afraid
to, to not tandem jump. So I would like to tandem jump
nude just for, you know, but once I'm done with these gang
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bangs and stuff because I feel that this is the year where
everything is just like what is going on with these crazy,
ridiculous challenges. Because they are.
And just because I do them doesn't mean other people have
to do them. Because some people are so
focused on feeling like I'm not gonna make any money because I
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can't do those challenges. But there are so many people in
the industry who don't do challenges, who are more like
solo, who are doing very well. And it's not about doing a
trend, it's how well you market yourself.
So there's, there's girls that do that have never had a single
sex tape and they make more thanme.
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And it's all about how you, you,you present yourself.
But once I'm done with these challenges, I want to do more of
like solo type challenges on my own, like jumping out of playing
nude, just doing things on like,I don't know, cuz I get bored.
And I'm like, what else could I do?
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People, I got her nickname. Tiffany Cruz.
Mission Impossible. Oh my God, I have an idea.
I want to go one of those those like jets where it's like 2
people that sit in it. Yeah, I want to.
I want to be, I want to be nakedin it.
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Because it to me it's like I'm actually it it.
Do you you like challenging yourself is Yeah.
Is that something that just innately in you?
Yeah, I don't know if it's 'cause I'm in Aries, but once.
So I used to have a TikTok account when I had first started
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my first year, I had almost, it was like around 1/2 a million
and I wasn't promoting any of mystuff and I would just do the
most outrageous things with my own ideas.
I, I remember I, I was AI did satire Amish stuff where I was
an Amish woman and a lot of people thought I was really
Amish, but then the other peopleknew it was satire.
So I just went along with it. And I did like these, these like
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ring light, ring light challenge.
And I showed my love again. It was funny.
So I'm like, OK, what else can Ido?
So I just try to find ways to challenge myself cuz I get bored
really easily if I'm doing the same thing.
I don't want to do the same thing like with these gangbangs.
One day I might decide like, OK,I want to take a break from
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gangbangs because I've done so many and it's like, OK, it's
obvious Tiffany, you do gangbang.
So I'm like, OK, what else can Ido?
Next thing you know, I'll be a, I'll be, I don't know, I have so
many ideas. So I just, but for me, this is
my take. If I'm going to be doing this
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type of work, I want to make sure that I'm remembered for it.
And that's just how I am. So I don't want to do it.
I don't. Understand why anybody getting
this and they don't think like that.
When I got in it, my thought wasI wanted to make shit that would
stand the test of time. You get what I'm saying, you
know, period. And to me, that's what I see you
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are doing. You know, period that you're
making. See their status tests, a time
that will stand out and improvements in the pudding.
She went viral. You got some girls fighting to
go one time. She went viral a couple of
times. So viral is nothing new for her,
you know, period. But this is the question I
asked. You have a lot of girls that try
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to damage to go viral for you isgoing viral to end all be all
and it and and and why do peoplewant to go viral not
understanding that it's more to it than that.
Whenever I have stuff go viral, I don't.
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Some of the stuff I never intentionally think it's going
to go viral, but for me it's I. This is my mindset.
Don't try to feel like you're going to go viral.
Just do things and enjoy it because if you enjoy it, it's
going to go viral. And if you don't want it to go
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viral, it might go viral becauseI had something that did and I
never sent that to the press. I never, I don't, I'm like, how,
why, why, what? And I like called my, my one of
my best friends up and I'm like,you're not going to believe
this. I'm like, I didn't even like
talk to my publicist about it. I didn't even like send it to
the press. I'm like, I don't understand,
but most of my stuff I don't. But it was like one thing that I
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never even thought was going to mean anything and they took it
so serious. So anyways, I always tell people
just have fun with it because ifyou're constantly trying to go
viral and you're not, you're only going to upset yourself
because when I had first starteddoing all of this work.
I didn't have intentions of going well, I would make a
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TikTok and be like, oh, I hope it goes viral.
But my my thing was is that I just wanted to make enough so I
could survive on my own because I had just left my ex-husband
and I had never been on my own. And I just wanted to make enough
so that I could live on my own. And going viral was my way of
feeling like I'm going to be OK.I'm going to like have money,
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but I would always like get disappointed.
But even though my stuff I did pretty well my very first month
on only fans, I made like $6000 and that was from like doing
live streams on only fans and really pushing it.
So I obviously that's nothing compared to like what people
make, but I feel like that beingthe first month because I hear a
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lot of my friends who who are super big, like there's this one
girl, I think what was it? Midwest Emma?
She's pretty. She's pretty successful.
She makes millions a year and she doesn't show her face.
And she was one of my inspirations for doing my bed
knob because she did her tractoror her excavator knob thing kind
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of thing. And she made $300 her first
month. So when I found I was like, OK,
but I, I didn't, I the only reason I made what I did is
because I told the guys I neededto leave my ex-husband.
So the guys were like sending meextra money and I would do live
streams and just flash. And then they would like give me
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extra. And then they were sending me
stuff for my wish list for like my new place that I needed.
And but, yeah, it took me a while to figure out how to go
viral. And it was when I had let go of
being seen because I was afraid of like, oh, what if?
So, the minute that you are not afraid of being seen, not
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letting people like, who cares? Because if you're gonna, you're
never gonna do anything. If you're if you're worried
about who's gonna see you just do whatever.
And yeah, but if anybody's watching this and they're ever
self doubting themselves, just give it time because I have been
doing this for over 4 years and it took me 4 years to get to
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this point. And I just, I just put myself
out there and just try to be as authentic as I can.
Sometimes I like to post satire stuff, some days I like to be
real. But I started treating my stuff
like a business. Once I started treating it like
that I just when my income really skyrocketed.
Running people didn't. Once again that word comes up
(42:38):
business. How many times I keep trying to
tell y'all it's a business? So now the other question is
tight casting. Do you worry that you be tight
casting is the gang bang girl? What do you mean?
Meaning that for example, right,the biggest word and the biggest
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argument is these civilians have, but you know, we're
talking about you vanilla fuckers that once you do the
gang bang, you can't come back and doing boy, girl or any other
type scene. You have to just keep doing more
numbers and more numbers and no numbers.
But that's not the truth. You feel what I'm saying?
Oh yeah, no, I, I do pretty wellon all my stuff.
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It just depends on the type of boy girl content.
So you don't have to keep going further and further.
In fact, if you're doing so muchof one thing, doing like
starting to add in something might make them interest.
Like, oh, I haven't seen her do one guy in forever.
So of course I want to know whatit's like to see her with one
guy. So I think a lot of people feel
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that once they're doing something, they're stuck with
that. And it's like you don't have to
keep doing that. You can do anything.
It's all about how you present yourself and market yourself.
Yeah, because to me it's it. The bigger mistake I think is if
a girl does nothing but gang bangs and she don't give us a
regular boy girl or a solo. Because I'm a firm believer you
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don't want the fan when he comeson your site to say no, you have
everything that they want, you know, period.
If they're looking for the gang bang, they want the if they did
gang bangers there, they're looking for threesome is there
and so forth. Now this is a question I wanted
to ask is that when it comes to I'm trying to think when it
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comes to the OK, when it comes to the game maker, we talking
about that a little bit for you.Why is Why is it hard to believe
that a woman wants to be gangbanged?
Well, I believe that social media has started exploding,
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obviously, and gangbangs have been going on since the caveman
days. And people don't realize, like,
gangbangs have been in pornos for years.
But because of social media and people are talking about it in a
safer work way, people who have never think, like, how could
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somebody ever do that? Yeah.
So more people are finding out about them, and they don't
believe that people would want to do them when it's just that
they haven't heard about it. And they've been going on for so
many years. And it's very primal, so.
Yeah, because if when we saw himin movies there was always
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violent, it was non consensual, you know, So I remember the one
that I can't think of a doggone name.
Zoolander had a game or had a orgy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You feel what I'm saying?
And please explain to people howsexually empowering a gang bang
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is for a woman. I feel because there's so many
hands. Sorry I'm trying to see if my
boobs are even. I'm not wearing a no.
No, you good that we enjoying that even smokers we'll try to
get on the premium smoke room. One time some boots like this
high and like it's like why are they doing that?
Like one boob will I'll be like in there because they're so big.
One will be up here and be like a little.
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Nipple popping. Out I was like is something
wrong with my boobs because one boobs up high no.
So then I have to adjust them sothey're even sorry.
That's why I was like, I hope they're not even thinking
there's something wrong with my boobs and there's nothing wrong.
They're just big. So sorry, what was the question?
I forgot the question. Look at your boobs.
I'm seeing nipple popping now I'm seeing like.
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Something about gang bang? Yeah, now how sexually
empowering is for a woman because they don't realize I
always said this. America Christianity you know
what they're scared of a sexually fluid when I ain't
going to say fluid sexually not sexually oppressed.
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I'm trying to find the right word.
Excuse me sexually confident, knowing of herself and sexually
comfortable woman. You get what I'm saying They
they they they they don't like that they don't they don't like
a woman that wants to be in a gangbang.
They don't like a woman that wants to be treated as such or
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come on a Boo cocky and so forth.
You know, period. So that's why I said to me, the
ultimate expression of sexuality, sexual power, sexual
consent is a gang bang because you have all these men around
this one woman or and in some cases now two women and these
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women want it. So once again the question I
come to you is why is it so hardfor people to believe and
understand that there are women on this planet that love being
gang bang? They enjoy it, they welcome it.
Actuality, they get bored with one-on-one sex sometimes.
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I feel because people are very sheltered and they don't
realize, like, there's more to life than just being with one
person. But also not only that, but if
they're using religion as a thing, you know, I mean, I
understand, you know, we got to keep people in order and we
can't have a bunch of people doing gang bangs and stuff
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because before we know it, if people find out that people from
the church and stuff are doing it, that's going to mess with,
like, not breaking the rules. Yeah.
So it's going to be great. Everything is a circle and a
system and unfortunately I like to break those rules.
And for some reason my social, sometimes my reels make men
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question their ego and they get really upset with me because one
of my guys that we like to role play, he likes to pretend he's
gonna go last and all this and it makes men who uncomfortable
and call me a gold digger. So I like to, I like to make
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those type of men mad at me because it's funny.
I find it funny when they say a woman, a gold digger, basically
makes her own goddamn money. So I had to push you a gold.
Digger Well, that's because the captions I put are like this old
man said, I'm worth every penny,even if it means his entire
retirement if he gets to be withme.
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And that's what makes them upsetand they and they, and they
think like, I'm just stealing this little man's money when in
fact we're, I'm like, yeah, cuz I set up the camera.
They're like, you never kissed him.
I'm like, I'm like, I don't think you realize, like I'm just
so good at, at making men peoplemad.
And even with like women, they get mad.
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This one woman said that's disgusting.
And you know what I said, I saidor no, she said I was disgusting
in one of my my gang bangs whereit was like this, all the guys
lining up and I said, I think I recognized your husband and he
was in her profile photo. Some people liked it.
And I was like, no, she no, he wasn't.
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He wasn't there. And I didn't respond back.
And I'm like, God, this woman really is insecure.
She. Really.
Did you go to the bitches gangbang?
What you talking about? And you don't know what I'm
talking about. I'm like, ha, ha, ha, ha.
I made you question. You really thought your ex or
you really thought your husband was at my gangbang.
But. But to me it's this is the other
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thing I hate. Y'all catch flat for the gang
bang. They don't say nothing about the
dudes that come to the gang bang.
Yeah, they think that, that I have had some people comment
they're they're like, you give all these women a hard time.
What about the men who and you know, some people think that
because I've been with so many guys that they think like, no
one's going to want me and no one's going to want to marry me.
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And I'm like, I've been married.I was with my my husband for 17
freaking years. I was with him and I left him
cuz he didn't treat me nicely. So I finally got the courage to
leave and it was really scary and I was really depressed cuz I
didn't want to. But for the sake of our mental
health and not repeating like circles I had to leave and I've
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been married. I know what it's like and
obviously not every marriage is like ours but I don't really
care to get married again. I don't and they're like 01 day.
I'm almost 40. I'm sorry, but when I'm when I'm
50, do you think like in 10 years, do I look like I want to
get married You and like, huh? You're almost 40.
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Yeah, I'm almost 40. I'm 37.
I'll be 38 soon tell. Me.
You were 28, maybe 25. Thank you.
So I I, yeah, I take care of myself.
Once I left my ex-husband, I hadto glow up.
I started looking younger and, but if I ever do decide to be
with a guy, obviously it's not going to be like a certain type
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of guy. Cuz why would I try to make a
man like me when I have so many guys who are OK And, and I think
like it's so wrong. And I'm like, there's so many
people who are accepting of whatI do.
And even if I stopped doing it, who knows?
Like if, even if I stopped doingit, maybe they don't want to do
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it anymore. And the fact that they get to be
with me and they know that I'm afreak and stuff.
But yeah, I don't know what the future holds, but I don't plan
on ever getting married again. I really don't, and if I did, if
I did get married again, I wouldwant to have a really nice
wedding because I didn't get a really.
I got married in Vegas. Oh God.
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It was I was just I, I had my dress was $3.
It wasn't Elvis, that marriage. It wasn't.
What's up? It wasn't Elvis, that marriage.
It wasn't. We got married at the one where
they had an Elvis impersonation,but this was many years ago.
Not the one, not the the old manthat one was.
That one was was a skit. But it turned bad because that
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guy treated me. So he got he legit turned into
an A hole after the freaking staged wedding.
And then I told him not to contact me anymore.
So I was like, OK, well I have just got to pretend that I got
divorced to this guy cuz so I can use all this content cuz I
spent, I spent so much money. I spent all, I spent a ton of
(53:50):
money on that venue, the limo, the tip, the food, like
everything to make it legit. And I lost out on all that cuz
he got jealous and he started telling me he didn't want me
doing gangbangs and this. And I'm like, dude, we're not
even freaking married. Like what are you talking about?
And he didn't want anything to do with me at Exotica and I
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wanted him to cut. He was like acting like I was
ignoring him. And I'm like, I'm not ignoring
you. I need to go to or not Exotica
AVN. I'm like, I have to go there.
Like that's why we're here. And if you want to spend some
time with me, come with me to AVN at the Expo.
I don't I, I'm like, I already spent so much money.
I have to network with other people.
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And if you come with me and people see that, they'll want to
talk to you too, because you're talking about how you wanted to
do like only fans and stuff. Because he, and I mean, he's an
old man, so I don't know if he'dfigure it out.
But anyways, my real husband, who our divorce is finally going
to be finalized very soon. It's been four years in the
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making. Thankfully, we're like, we're
not. It's it's more so personal
reasons. It's not that we've been
fighting or anything. It's just so anyways, I've been
married. It takes money to divorce, so
people can understand that it takes money.
Our divorce, Our divorce isn't that much.
I left him everything. It's more so it's like we've
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been together for so long and it's kind of scary to think
about. We had, we're almost like we are
kind of like soul mates playing twins, but we are not meant for
each other. So I don't think I'll ever find
a guy like that, that I'll connect on that level.
Cuz anyways, if I ever did get married again, I would want to
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have it be very meaningful. Not in Vegas.
I would want it at a beautiful venue.
Yeah, so, but I I don't plan on getting married again.
So all the people that think like, I won't find a good man, I
have. There's so many good men out
there. Just because they do this stuff
doesn't mean that they're wrong.Because think about all the
husbands who are secretly doing it and they have like the white
(55:58):
picket fence. At least the guys I do it are
upfront and honest about it. Yeah.
And to eat we we can find love in the industry.
We can find love with swingers, we can find love with another
person that is understanding andthe keyword respectful of what
we do. You know, period.
And I've been saying this. Any dude that got an issue with
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a woman's body count, you are sobeta.
I'm an alpha. I don't give a fuck with the
hell she fucked before me. She could fuck 1000 people
before me. There's only one bomb, you know,
period. That I remember a girlfriend, a
guy asked her body count one. I never maybe I come from the
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generation. We never asked that nor do we
care. But I guess it's this
generation. Y'all give a shit.
She said 1000 people. He got up and left and I'm like,
that just means she seasoned virgin.
You want a version ain't Dick shit.
Did you complain about that? She don't want to suck Dick.
Yeah, she's a virgin motherfucker.
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Oh my God. So, but to me, I, like I said,
how do you feel to be that this last thing to be known as one of
the gang bang Queens because youhave the people that the anal
queen, you won the big three of the gang bangs.
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How do you feel to be on that list and to be considered the
queen of the gang bang? I love it.
I love the fact that the hard work I've put in is paying off
because my whole thing is if I'mgoing to do something, I might
as well be known for it. And I feel that I am America's
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biggest three O 4. And you know, cuz the other two
girls are from overseas. Yeah, England.
So yeah. And I'm here in the United
States, and I'm proud to be America's biggest fork.
(58:08):
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what have you about certain subjects as well as Savage Smoke
(59:13):
where I talked to the industry'stop male talents and producers
about the industry from a male perspective.
So whether it's premium smoke, wherever you had the smoke on it
or is that good Savage smoke, either way, please subscribe to
the smoke. Now with that being said, Miss
Tiffany, tell everybody where they can find you.
Spend money on you, baby. You can find me on witiffxxx.com
(59:37):
or you can just Google Tiffany Wisconsin only fans or Wisconsin
Tiff only fans if you want to subscribe to me.
Otherwise just Google me and youcan find my ex.
But yeah. So smokers, what did you smoke
over the day? What did you learn?
Let me tell you what quick what you learned.
First of all, gang bangs are beautiful.
(59:57):
We are going to learn a woman that controls her sexuality is
the most powerless woman on thisplanet.
I don't like that. That's why I don't like women
that do gang bangs because they control that.
They want it, they ask for it. As you heard she put it
together, you feel me? And a lot of women would love to
(01:00:19):
be ran through. They just ain't got the balls to
say it. See, we got to find what works
for us and take it and make money with it.
You feel me? And at the same token, don't be
a slave to your trends. You feel me?
Because that trend will end and you stuck.
(01:00:40):
See there's a lady here that thinks ahead of the trends.
See if y'all know this. Just on top of that, she always
tried to one of herself with creativity, not with the sexual
act. Where y'all fucker be with the
creativity? See, yeah, she might have done
A50 man gang bang, but then she going to come up with another
(01:01:01):
gang bang. They got a storyline.
They're going to make it pop more.
And she also proved my point about being viral.
You can go viral, but you ain't got a plan to back that viral.
It was a waste of a viral momentbecause you ain't going to gain
nothing from me. She gained a lot.
So y'all have a lot to learn from Miss Wisconsin Tiff.
It's a reason why she will be a future Hall of Fame.
(01:01:23):
It's a reason why she's probablyone of the best performers in
this business as we speak. It's a reason why she went viral
not once, not twice, multiple times.
Because let me tell you why she went viral.
It was because the gang bangs. It's because she's Wisconsin
Tiff. That's the argument I had with
(01:01:43):
someone. Is it the act that makes it
viral? The person, it's the person
because if you go viral, they don't know who the fuck you is.
Ain't nobody going to go look for you neither.
You feel me? So And she said the magic word
of the day, business. Every move she makes, she thinks
(01:02:05):
business. Your gang bangs business.
Even with the church scene, it'sbusiness.
Why? Because they're going to make
you fuckers go watch. Because it's too extreme.
If she jump out of that plane butt ass *** sucking the Dick,
y'all don't watch. Why?
Because it's business. She's trying to find a way to
(01:02:26):
bring y'all in. What she's creating is a package
that will make you invest in heremotionally first, financially
second. Working to me.
So with that being said, you know, we're in these things all
day, every day. Life is a learning experience.
What's the point of the experience if you haven't
(01:02:47):
learned anything? Smoke this over.
Don't go nowhere. I got to talk to you on the
other end of the outro. OK.
Say goodbye to him, Miss Tiff. Bye you.
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