September 1, 2025 • 57 mins
This Special Smoke, Porn Legend, CEO and All around sexy business woman , Sara Jay returns to the Podcast. She discuss her CBD products from her CBD Lube to the skin care products. We discuss the current state of porn. We discuss the Gangbang trend and what guys do behind the scenes to stay hard on set. She talks about being an independent porn star and how it was back in the days in the business and how she moved in the business without an agent plus more.
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(00:06):
Express that and explore that isbecause of how dangerous and how
like harmful homophobia is within male community right.
Like if you go out and kiss a guy, you might get fucking
jumped right? Like if you kiss a guy on the
street. Now, this isn't to say it's.
Yeah, because I know it gave youGod tell people when you go to
(00:27):
these conventions, it gives you confirmation of how far you have
grown in your career. And also, I'm pretty sure you
had a bunch of the top towns that you haven't shot with, say,
we've seen your video. Yes, yes, I've had people who
come up who can make money off. Of it but see you think about
these OK, let's just keep it 1 honey, the girls nowadays don't
(00:48):
give a fuck about the money, they want to go back.
Yeah. So so it's kind of like the
girl, a lot of the girl that don't show their face with the
feet. It ain't because they make more
money with the feet back to where you're not doing the
content housing, you're shootingcontent, but you're not shooting
with everybody got their Mama now.
(01:09):
Just kind of the circled and closed up a little bit to make
yourself. Yes, yes, yes.
How you doing Mom? I'm really good.
I'm really good. Oh my God, yes, not totally
(01:32):
understand. You a busy lady I've been
following because you be everywhere from you, from
festivals, we conventions, porn conventions, all that stuff.
Be you like as it is. How do you do it man?
I ask myself that all the time, you know?
(01:55):
Yeah, a lot of times I spread myself thin, burn the candle at
both ends, you know? I mean, because you like this,
you had been a lady Dad, I got to put this you were known for
porn, but now your branding expanded.
So like extensively yo and whereyou contribute that to yo.
(02:19):
Seriously. I just got a lot of drive and,
you know, motivation. I'm just not the type of person
to relax too much and just sit around and do nothing.
I was just saying that the otherday, like I, I'm just not the
type of person. Even if I had the yeah, I just
couldn't do it. I just couldn't sit around and
do nothing. I'm always coming up with ideas
(02:41):
and businesses and ways to make money and ways to make products
and ways to make people happy. And yeah, so it's like I'm
constantly thinking of things. I'm just not that person.
Yeah, because like this week. Disgusting out on the side of
the street, you know, like in the park or whatever.
I'm like, yeah, that's not me. Yeah, 'cause even like with me,
like I'm in between like 9:00 to5:00, we're happy, right?
(03:05):
And I feel so out of place because like my body was telling
me this morning to get up and goto work And I was like, wait a
second, I don't have a child right now.
You know what I'm saying? And also getting up to record
the new podcast and stuff like that and everything.
And for you, like I said, you have really, let's just say you
(03:30):
the queen of CBD show, because it's like one you have some
people can understand that she has a Lube.
You have self-care and and the whole night cause a lot of
people when they do the CBD is more about the edibles.
Sure, sure. You know what I'm?
Saying going into, you know, Wellness products, the things
(03:50):
that I have in that my company produces are things that I
needed as I've gotten older, youknow, pain robs, I've got our
pain relief for a long won an award.
And yeah, so we've got like a lot of products that I just came
up with because those are products that I needed that I
(04:11):
wanted CBD in, you know, so the one of one of the products that
I'm most proud of is our intimate healing cream.
And there's not really a productlike this out there.
It's for your intimate areas. Men or women can use it and it
really like does healing and like pain relief.
So if you've got anything like, you know, maybe razor bumps or
(04:35):
lasered and it's like irritated or you, you know, grinding and
any kind of like skin irritations, you put that on
there and it heals you up reallyquickly and it feels really
amazing. I think we're frozen.
(04:59):
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Now this lady has not been on here in a long, long time.
(07:17):
She is electric and people, if you know, if you a premium
smoker, you know that I talked about it in my deep dive about
the history of interracial porn.If she's interracial porn, she's
a fucking queen of that shit. You feel what I'm saying?
And also she's culturally relevant.
(07:37):
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The athletes all wanted to tasteher, and she is the queen of
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I'm talking about none of it. Then the goddess herself, Sarah
J. Say hello to the smokers.
(07:57):
Hello. Hello.
No, I, I, I did a deep dive discussing the history of
interracial porn from the What was behind the Green door up
until, you know what I'm saying,all the way up to the present
day. And I talked about how you was
one of the ladies that pushed anenvelope when it wasn't cool,
(08:19):
when it wasn't out there like that.
You feel what I'm saying? And it was a rarity, you know,
and also what you had to deal with because of you doing
interracial, because I've been to realize it was frowned upon
for girls to do interracial. Yeah, that's what I hear.
(08:43):
So you never ran into that then?No, not really.
And I probably did and just didn't care.
And like, I just didn't. For me, it wasn't a big deal.
Like I, it was a big deal for everybody else in the world and
for me, you know, like I never ever thought about the color of
(09:07):
the person's skin I'm having sexwith other than the fact they're
pretty or not. You know, like, I like it or I
don't like it. You know, like some people have
nicer skin. It's smoother, it's softer, you
know, the, the like, textures maybe like some bumpier on other
people. But yeah, like, I just never
really thought about it. And then I wanted, like somebody
(09:30):
mentioned it to me. I'd already been in the industry
like for three years, maybe like3 years, and somebody said
something about like interracialand like kind of made it a big
deal and I was like, yeah, huh. What do you mean?
You were like wait, wait, what'sthe problem?
(09:50):
I don't get it. No, I didn't even know.
Like I didn't even know. That was like a special genre,
like I don't having sex with black guys on camera or black
women or like anybody, whoever. And I just didn't at some point
early, like early, but not that early on.
Like I'd already, I've been doing this 25 years.
So like, it already been like a couple years and somebody said
(10:11):
something about interracial and I was like, oh, that's a thing.
Yeah, does that it, it was like a research right And I went
through. A color, a person's skin is just
the same as a color a person's hair.
Yeah. You know, like, oh, I like
people who have red hair. Like, I like people who are
blonde. But like, it wasn't like a thing
(10:32):
like, and to be for it to be a thing was like really
surprising. But I guess I just never really
did my. When I did my research, I said
well damn. And then I do remember when I
talked to producers back then, they was like, yeah, they kind
of did try to discourage girls from doing it.
And I was like, but it's it's a money maker.
(10:56):
I don't, you know what I'm saying?
Now it's like the shit. Yeah.
You know, I never really had an agent and like, I always hustled
all my own work for the most part.
And honestly, like, I think it'sthe girls, the girls that have
(11:16):
managers and agents, they're theones who would guide them like
that. And I think that's just wrong.
Look at my career, you know, like it doesn't even make sense.
Like if you just think about it in a science numbers kind of
way, if you only do movies that if you do movies that exclude a
(11:38):
whole bunch of people. Yeah.
You're not going to make money off that whole bunch of people,
you know, like it's just, it just makes sense.
Like why would? Why would?
I don't understand why that would be good advice ever.
But if we want to be honest about it, back then it was a
(11:59):
bunch of old white dudes. That's what I'm trying to say
without saying it like that. No, fuck that.
We say that on my show. No, we don't go shit, baby.
Before that, there's. Not any logical advice that
would say otherwise. Like you just can't tell me
that, Yeah. Yeah, and it and to me it's like
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because it's funny when I sit back and even when I I did
interracial because before it got you know, cool and I'm like
y'all making a big deal on something that has been in
point. It just wasn't prevalent.
Just like anal wasn't prevalent,gang bangs wasn't prevalent.
Now gang bangs. Is this the year the gang bang?
It's like everybody wants to do a game.
Do you remember so many girls wanna do gang bangs when he was
(12:45):
coming? Up.
I'm going to contribute that to the fact that when I was coming
up, we didn't have as many male aids.
Like, you know, see, there was there was, I remember the first
time I had sex with somebody on Viagra.
It was on camera and I was like,what the fuck is wrong with his
(13:08):
that guy's Dick? Like after the scene was over, I
went to the director. I was like, what the fuck was
wrong with that guy's Dick? And he says to me, he's like,
what do you mean? I was like, it wouldn't go down.
I was like, I know how to make Dicks cum and I was doing all
the things. And it wasn't that he didn't
like it. His Dick was like rock hard and
it just like wouldn't go down. Like it took forever.
(13:28):
Like what should have been in like a 20 minute situation was
easy 45. I was like, why is it taking so
long? You know, it's just not right.
And so now I think that has facilitated a lot more not just
like group sex, but like just sexual Olympic like things, you
(13:53):
know, like things that you shouldn't be able to do.
And your Dick is hard. Your Dick is hard and it should
not be right. Now oh God, I heard about the
ejections, all that shit. And then too also with research
because I plan to do a deep divetalking about how sex have
changed in porn, right? Yeah.
(14:13):
I watch like the old vintage 80s.
Yeah, the actual sex scene was no more than 7 minutes, maybe
10. Yeah.
Yeah, we got to do 2020, but. There was, like a lot of acting,
though. There was also, like, talking
back then. Yeah, yeah.
So. I I like, I foresee more things
(14:34):
where like people are going to be in the middle of doing, I
don't know, things like skydiving or something and be
able to like maintain an erection the whole time because
you just shot up, shot up your Dick, you know.
Yeah. And there's a lot of there is a
lot more guys that are availablefor gangbangs, etcetera, because
they do shoot up their Dicks andthey're like, yeah, no worries,
(14:56):
I got it. It's fine.
Then. Whereas before, if a guy, you
know, was uncertain or like maybe even hopeful that he could
like work through a gangbang andhe just made might not even sign
up for it. You know, now girls get a lot
better content. Well, not just girls, but people
get a lot better content for those type of scenes.
(15:19):
And whereas I never like to, I don't like the coordination of
so many people. First of all, also like you, you
are just hopeful. You just hope that this works
out. Yeah, because like one girl, I
heard it when she was on Twitterpage talking about that she got
her butt hole real doing a gang bang.
(15:40):
I was like, wow, you know what I'm saying?
And I mean, I ain't got no girlfriend, people.
Are involved, like, you're not going to be as confident of
everybody's level of professionalism either.
Yeah, whatever that means to you, you know, like more people,
more germs is the really easy way to say it.
That's the way I always think about like shit.
(16:01):
More people, more germs. Let's hear him as you did,
because you are you a producer studio on all that stuff?
Is the ladies more concerned about the number of men more
than the quality of what the gang bang is going to look like?
People are concerned about quality, I think, and like, it
(16:22):
depends. It depends on what your goal is.
But like all, I think it's very gimmicky to worry about the
number of men you know. That's very gimmicky.
If you're going to be worried about the number of men, then I
think you should just like aim high and like.
Talk about she need 1000 dudes. Yeah, well, that chick is like
(16:44):
that chick is that's what her thing is.
You know, it's like numbers, like quantity make a spectacle
of it too. Like, yeah, it's it's part of
the marketing and promotion. I'm not like shitting on her at
all. Do whatever you do.
But The thing is, it's like it is very gimmicky.
It is right I mean. Because that's something that
you will want to be I. Was going to say that that's
(17:07):
like you're not going to make a whole website of like everybody
on this site fucks 1000 dudes. You know what I mean?
Like we've got 1000 dudes. You just run one girl through
every now and then, like through1000 dudes.
There's not going to be a website of, you know, that's not
so it's going to be like a one off like a marketing thing, you
know. Yeah, because I don't think you
(17:28):
can predicate your career off ofdoing Game 8 because the fans
going to get bullied with it to a certain extent.
We end up seeing a lot of man ass a lot of times too honestly
and not the saying that that manass is bad.
Maybe you want to look at man ass but like we don't get it
doesn't really show showcase thegirl.
Yeah. In like the best way.
(17:50):
I mean, it's definitely one of the ways that we can showcase
performer, but it's not the onlyway that you want to be
showcased. You know, like you just see
pieces of parts. You see an arm and a leg here
and there. Yeah, because see, to me it's
like when it's too many numbers,it it, it, how can I put this?
(18:13):
It muddies up the the scene to me.
You know what I'm? Saying, I mean, don't get your
twisty. It's a lot of manners.
Yeah, and a. Lot of arms.
Yeah. It's, I think my favorites are
always like threesomes. I think threesomes is like the
perfect for whether it's a boy, boy, girl or a girl, girl, boy,
(18:33):
like there's always like a sexual assistant, like who's
doing it together. There's a sexual assistant to
assist in like squeezing, touching, like, you know,
whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, good.
To me, it's like it. Last year was anal, OK?
Everybody wanted to do anal. And this year it was just like
(18:54):
everybody wanted to do game plays.
I was like, I wonder what this year going to be?
And you know the the Dicks saying hard abnormally is for
both anal and gangbang. It's very helpful.
Yeah, because I tell people thisall the time, especially when
we're shooting. Y'all don't know how much shit
(19:15):
got to go right just for a ride sequence.
Fuck anal, the riding of the Dick.
You feel what I'm saying? Anal is a whole never told
difficulty because like I said, you got to catch her at the
right time, she got to be in thehornies and your Dick got to be
at the harvest. Yeah.
Dick is not going in, not even slightly.
(19:38):
Yeah. You know, and even with the
ride, because if he's not hard, he's just going just, you know,
slide, no slide off or what haveyou, you know.
How many guys don't realize thatlike, I'll be like, Are you
ready for me to ride? They're like, yeah, go ahead.
And I'm like, I don't think you are like he.
(20:02):
Just he just somewhere like. Yeah, you're like 7080% like.
Yeah, no 'cause you don't know Dad, when she get on top and
then your ass get soft, you'll be like oh fuck, you got to get
off a sudden Dick a little bit more to get you back on.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I know.
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I need to like if I ask, that means like, Are you ready?
You like? Yeah, I don't know anybody or
any guys, I guess, because I understand it's a profession,
especially if you're getting paid, you know what I'm saying?
(20:44):
But I know with damage it could do because especially if you
take it frequently, especially with with with them doing the
the ejections now. Oh man.
Because not everybody know how to use a needle.
I'm sorry you. Know, it's not even that.
It's like just getting your bodyused to that, you know, do you
really want to get your body used to that at such a young
(21:05):
age? And you don't think it takes a
toll on your, the way that your body is aroused, like mentally,
physically, like if your Dick can just get hard, you don't
even have to be aroused, you know, like which fucks out with
your head when you're not working.
(21:25):
And when you decide you don't want to do that shit anymore,
that whole system doesn't work the same like it used to, you
know? Yeah, yeah.
I just had, like, some recreational sex with a
performer recently, and they shot out their Dick beforehand.
And I was like, but like, you don't have to do that.
Like, I enjoy whatever is about to happen, you know, and.
(21:50):
See what I'm there? I'm retired.
It's like, I actually prefer it.I was like, OK.
Yeah, not to me. I'm like I tell you.
What I never had to use in an age, the most I had to use in
advanced was like the little, you know, pill that you might
get from the corner store where I've been smoking weed, you
know, but to me, I even go front.
(22:12):
I like, you know, every on camera sex not have to worry
about having the camera. You know what I'm saying?
I'm like, I guess because they need it for the confidence to
even fuck Because it's kind of like you.
I'm guessing, but there's probably a physical dependence
too. Yeah.
Yeah, like, like, I don't know if your Dick's going to like, I
(22:36):
don't know if your Dick works normal sometime after a certain
dependence. I guess it's just really risky
to play with that to me, like I had to like if I was a woman and
like I had to like shoot up my pussy to like my make my pussy
work better. Would I do it?
(22:58):
Fuck no, I wouldn't do it. They're on the side just I don't
think put it like that. Oh, hell no.
It's we're just gonna, we're gonna do exercises and we're
gonna just be fine with whateveris happening.
There's no way I would shoot up my pussy in order to work.
Forget it. No.
All right, you don't see, see, see that's why I told people I
(23:20):
said man, we have way more pressure because the woman pussy
is only not functional. Well, depending on the age, once
a month or depending well. You know what A bunch of shit.
Wait, that's never called any issues to be honest with.
You. No, because there's a thing
called instant soft cups. I don't see no, I don't see big
(23:41):
company pass them out. Don't want to hear that shit.
I'm on my monthly hill. Put this in.
Be ready in 15 minutes. Well, you know, it's everybody
has like a different situation, you know, Yeah, you want me to
get into lady stuff. But yeah, like, you know,
everybody's lady stuff is different.
But yeah, I work. I work through my period too.
It doesn't. It's not a thing.
(24:03):
She said it was nothing, Don't stop.
That'd be. She bought her bread, people.
Yeah. So, so that, like you say, you
never really had an agent because I'm talking to people
with agents who have you. And for you, what was the
benefit of you not having an agent?
(24:25):
You know what I'm saying? Because a lot of people say we
can't get to where we're out of agent, but go ahead.
There was only one agent when I started and that was Jim South.
And like, you could just go sit in his office.
Like everybody just sat in his office, whether it was signed up
with him or not. Like people just sat in his
office and hung out because he was the only agent there.
(24:46):
And I remember that being like athing that you did if you were
in LA and you didn't have any work, Like you could just go sit
in his office and meet people. Like it was more like a social
networking kind of vibe, you know, it seemed very important.
Like, yeah, he, he definitely wasn't actively like hustling
(25:12):
for all the performers that he had on the roster.
He just was like a place where people could meet up basically.
That's the way that's the vibe that I always had from it.
But yeah, like, I just kept networking.
Like I was, I was, I was always of the mindset that nobody sold
your pussy more than you know better than you did.
(25:33):
And especially after I didn't even realize that Jim's health
was an agent when I was when I would sit in his office
sometimes. Like I literally wouldn't
realize that guy. Was a cool dude.
I was just like, who is this guythat everybody like uses his
office to like get together at? And it took me like a long time
to realize that he was even an agent.
(25:54):
But then that was really the only agent in, you know, LA at
the time. And that was, you know,
representing performers. It wasn't until a while, like a
while after that the Asians cameon the on the scene.
And by then I was already like famous.
(26:14):
By the time there was more than,you know, just one agency, I was
famous like, and people who, andI also kept really good like
records and contact e-mail listsand stuff.
So I stayed in contact with people and I would just call
(26:35):
people. I would, I would make a immense
office schedule and I would hit up everybody in LA or everybody
in New York that 'cause I had a lot of companies that were
actually started in New York. So I had a lot of companies that
I worked for in New York especially like fetish companies
and stuff. And so, yeah, photographer stuff
like that. I was really good at just
(26:56):
networking and keeping track of everybody's contacts in a
contact list and let people knowwhen I was coming out.
Yeah 'cause because it was like people, yeah.
Y'all just really don't know, man.
This lady is like, she was like one of the ones that was
everywhere. And when I mean everywhere, like
everywhere, it was like every company.
(27:18):
It was like, you know, and then of course, when I started, you
started your own, you know, and also, like I said, you was one
of the ones that like myself, you was more independent, even
though you was working with companies.
Because even with me, I, I couldn't do the Hollywood, I
couldn't go out there, get them shoots.
They have too much pressure. Yeah, I can understand that.
(27:41):
You know, I enjoy working down in LA and working with different
companies, but almost just so I know what not to do sometimes,
you know, or like maybe what to do just like as an examples, you
know, and it also it brings yourname to like a whole different
market. But nothing is better than
(28:02):
owning your own, you know? Yeah.
So now for you, because you was out there, we about to get real,
you was out there and we know porn is a man ran business for
the most part. How much did being around these
dudes have some of these guys movement, act and not even from
the good to bad and ugly that makes you say I want to start my
(28:25):
own company? So ladies have a place and be
treated a certain way, shot a certain way, promoted a certain
way. You get what I'm saying?
Yeah, a lot to do with it too. Yeah, You know, OK, so like I
understand what you're saying. And I guess my focus was on like
(28:46):
cleanliness. Like I, yeah, like when you go
to set and it's like disorganized and it's dirty.
The set is dirty. The bathrooms are dirty.
Like, there's not a clean towel.There's no paper towels.
You're like, if you just have one woman on your squad, just
(29:09):
one woman on your squad, like just one, you just need one
woman. And she buys the paper towels
and she's like, oh, we need tampons.
And then she, you know, buys some bath towels because people
are going to want to shower and then maybe buy some soap.
Like I cannot tell you how many studios back in the day would
not have like most of this stufflike and these.
(29:32):
Suckers make billions. There's like a flower and like a
toilet and a sink and they're all dirty and they're have
running water, yes, but there's no towels and there's no soap.
Or there might be like a bottle of soap and it's like the last
of it, you know? And it's all.
And yeah, it was just like. Yeah, I heard a girl say that
(29:54):
they were like they had to bringtheir own cleanest supplies to
the studio. And honestly, if every studio
just had like one woman who was like in charge of making sure
that the other women here feel comfortable, like, I mean,
cleanliness wise, I mean, sure, other ways too.
But what was bothering me was like, Oh no, I think I could do
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this like better. And like, like the other thing
is like food, most companies that back then didn't offer any
food at all, even if you were working like all day, they
didn't offer any food. And if they did, it was like
junk, you know, like like LittleDebbie's and stuff, like just a
box of Little Debbie's and a boxof gummy bears or something, you
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know, and I'm simply, I'm not everybody, but some companies
like did really well with that, but a lot of companies just
didn't. And I thought, well, you know,
this always make you like think,well, if I had my own company,
this is how I would do it. If I had my own company, this is
how I would do it, you know, Andso that's, that was a lot of the
(31:00):
motivation. Plus I just started creating my
own content right away because I've had Sarah j.com since the
beginning. Sarah j.com is 24 years old and
I've got 24 years worth of content on there.
So yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, it's, it's nice to have
a like whole portfolio, but I'vebeen creating content for that
(31:23):
set of sites since the beginning.
Oh yeah, because it it and to you, what you, you is what I
call a kingmaker so people can understand this, that ladies,
you want to strive to where it'smore important for the
motherfuckers to shoot with you than you to shoot with them, You
(31:44):
know what I'm saying? And for you, for advice for
ladies getting to business, what's the best advice to give
them to take into account everything that's important
about their brand, especially the aesthetics of it.
Because I always tell people, part of your brand is also based
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off who you fuck on that camera,how you look on that camera, how
you work that camera and and so forth.
You know, speak to that. Yeah.
You know, kind of like to relatewhat you're also saying before
as far as like being treated differently because you do it in
the rate school and stuff. One of the things is always the
rate, you know, and IR was like a step in that whole rate thing,
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which was like really weird. But I always spoke against doing
that because I felt like you should create a brand and own
that brand from the beginning. You do all the things that you
would do, like if you like anal,yeah, if you want to start out
doing anal, go ahead. Like sure.
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Granted, people try to do this whole like money levels, like
hold out for like the biggest dollar and I I get that, I get
that. But as far as like creating your
brand, do not be afraid to just do whatever the fuck you want to
do from the beginning. No, that might not be what
somebody would recommend you to do in order to make the most
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amount of money for that one scene.
But The thing is, is if you're doing anal from the beginning,
think of all the anal scenes you're gonna be doing at an anal
rate, and you would have missed out on all those just because
you're holding out for that one big anal.
Unless you're only. If you're only gonna do it once,
(33:38):
you're only gonna do once. But if you're gonna start doing
anal after that, you might as well do it the whole fucking
time. I'm saying because to me it's
when you focus on that big payday it you're missing out on
your brand. Because and you're renting out
and creating an identity for whowho you are and what you like.
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But so many people get into thisbusiness for the wrong reasons
and they get into the business because they want to be famous
or they like dressing up or likethey want the money.
But The thing is, it's like, if you are creating a brand in your
persona and you're trying to have like longevity, you need to
like fully flesh that out of like what kind of persona you
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are. The way that I always thought of
myself is actually pretty much how I am.
And that's like, I kind of like,I'm really fun sexually and I
kind of like belong to the world, like and I, I've always
kind of like thought of myself and in my persona as you know,
I'm here for y'all, you know? I can tell you why I want to
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shoot with you because she was like to me, the sexy business
professional white lady. They like black men.
You feel what I'm saying? Because right.
For sure, yeah. Because it's like maybe because
the company she worked with, butshe always wore a sexy ass
(35:10):
outfit, the heels, you know whatI'm saying?
She was always when she was presented as sexy, flirtatious,
you know, sex symbol, you know, and and I think that we got lost
with this generation is the art of being fucking sexy.
Thank you. Thank you, Thank you.
Yeah, I I've always enjoyed being a grown up, you know, and
(35:36):
all the things that go with being like a grown ass woman.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. She lives in the city that that
we we with some sluggish behind it that wouldn't.
Yeah. So but to me it's like now the
girls just want to be thoughts. It ain't about being sexy.
(35:58):
It's not about being the sex symbol, you know what I'm
saying? It's just trying to sell the sex
and. Well, I mean the the work is on
them to do everything now. You know, like when I started,
at least we had the Internet andthere was other production
companies besides one, like one.Now there's just Mcphorn and you
(36:22):
know, there's just that one company, Mcphorn and everybody
else is putting out their own stuff and you know, and it,
that's one of the things that I always did, but I was rare.
Like now everybody is a content creator and really what they are
is they're the artist, they're the producer, they're the
(36:44):
director, they're the editor andthey are the marketer.
And it's a lot of fucking work anymore.
It really is like. Yeah, I don't.
Know how I would feel if I was anew performer right now like.
But see, but see with you though, you carry the image that
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when they saw you on the big companies, they saw the same
thing on the site. You know what I'm saying?
Because I was always talking, I come from the same school as
you, the way that they saw you in the beginning.
They need to continue to see youthat.
Way, Yeah. Anything less than that is
hustling backwards. These girls are hustling
backwards. Yeah.
Because if to the point that youtook what you saw with working
(37:30):
with these companies and you brought to your own shit, made
it your own, you know, and I think and same thing with me
when I used to watch what you know, Cam cash game streets,
what y'all was doing what you know what I'm saying?
All them cats was doing out there in Hollywood and the
girls, them days, they won't go fuck with us unless we had that
(37:53):
look like that. Yeah.
People don't get that. They won't go and shoot this
across the board. If you didn't have studio
quality looking shit, you won't get nobody to come shoot with
you. Yeah, you.
Get paid. Yeah.
Because they care about the fuckabout this shit.
So do you think it's the way that they seen the people that
(38:14):
they looking up to this like like the girls looked up at you?
Do you think that's how they seewhat porn posed to be because
they see how these ladies are shooting?
No, I think they, they, the young people are just fucking
and filming it and seeing it's like like a bunch of spaghetti.
(38:37):
Just throw it on the wall and see what's 6/6.
No rhyme, no reason. I mean, it's they're basically
doing their own research, you know, on their own brand.
Yeah. You know, so that's why we have
different types of performers that shoot different types of
stuff. We got those girls that cosplay
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and, you know, you got the performers that play video games
and yeah, I don't know, there's so many different types of
performers now. You know, I think they're just.
Yeah, it's, it's, it's a lot. Yeah.
I was like, man, 'cause he's a point.
Yeah. I was like, let let me get the
cosplay because I love the cosplays, because I love the
cosplay myself. But I'm seeing more of them
getting it, dropping some fuck videos out of this beach.
(39:20):
It's stuff of that nature. It's like, I just feel that all
women want to be porn stars. They just scared of the
reaction. They might get a big ditty.
I don't. I can't.
I can't agree with that. I know a lot of women that don't
want to be. Bullet stars I can't 'cause
someone who said can the regulargirls even the IG baby posing
(39:42):
like y'all they just. Yeah, well, I think those girls
are just trying to make money. You know, they want to sell the
dream. They're trying to sell the
dream. It's just like it's the
basically, it's the new champagne.
Room, Yeah. And, you know, it's the new
Champagne room. What's back there?
Champagne. Oh God, so oh now because you
(40:13):
know, we didn't beat in front ofcamp, we know how physical taxi
shooting and all that good stuff.
How much do your people or you suggest your people to use some
of your CBD stuff or suggestionson the porn star to use some of
your CBD stuff? You know, I'm saying especially
(40:33):
to help with the pains, the aches, because I keep telling
y'all it is sexual kalasthenics.Not only that, but like these
conventions, you know, I do so many shows and they're like 3,
sometimes four days long. My whole body is for after that
(40:54):
just from standing. My back hurts, you know, my neck
hurts from sleeping in like hotel pillows and stuff.
And then my feet will just, we have these bath bombs, they come
in four different cents and theyare 100 milligrams of CBD.
So that is stronger than almost any product.
(41:17):
Well, it's stronger than any product that we have.
And you get 100 milligrams through your skin,
transdermaline in one bath. And like, yeah.
So on a really long night, like,you know how the conventions are
usually, like, Friday, Saturday,Sunday, Saturday after after
(41:38):
working all day, Saturday, all night, she jumped in the bathtub
with one of those bath bombs. Naughty.
I don't even like to take baths that much because I can't sit
that long. You don't have to sit that long.
20 minutes, 15 minutes. And crawl out of there, right
into the bed. Yeah, cuz, cuz even with me,
(42:01):
like I'll be having shoulder pain a lot, you know what I'm
saying? And I kind of want to use
something that ain't tiger bomb that got tiger bomb effect, but
don't get the tiger bomb smell. Right.
OK, so our pain relief roll on, it smells like peppermint
because it's made with peppermint oil, which it's not
(42:23):
quite as offensive as that Tigerball maybe, but it is a roll on
and you can carry it in your pocket.
It's about the size of a chapstick.
And it's like I hit my elbows with it a lot.
My elbows. Well, tendonitis, tendonitis.
But yeah, it's good for like, on, you know, on the go.
(42:44):
Spot on. Yeah, 'cause I ain't scared to
everybody. I just turned 50.
Trust me, I'll be feeling this some more.
This guy, Dang it. I turned 48 this year.
Oh my God. I.
Know. See people, she don't even look
like she's supposed to be turning 48.
(43:04):
She's still like she just get into the 30s.
Just get. Right, you know, No, I know she
like my age. Babe, I mean, I'm looking at you
young shit. I'm like she, she ain't age for
shit. Thanks, you know, I, I live
(43:26):
good. I enjoy life.
I laugh a lot and I, I own all my years like I never lie about
my age because I, I had, I'm honored to have all those years
in the bank. I ain't.
Worried 'cause it just like likewith me, I had people like why
don't you dye your beard? I say it for fucking what?
(43:48):
I know that I'm old, I can't hide that.
Yeah, fuck it. No doubt it's what?
It is right? Oh yeah, so.
But you still shoot from time totime, right?
You do I, do I? I still have Sarah j.com.
I have my production company wideside.com and you know, I I
(44:09):
haven't been shooting for other companies in a couple of years.
You. Mean this behind you to the
point that do you really need to?
No, I don't you're. Kind of bigger than some of the
companies now. You know what, sometimes I want
to. I'm just, I miss people like I
miss directors and stuff. You're like, I haven't heard
from you in a long time. How you doing?
Like maybe we should shoot or something.
(44:30):
That would be cool. Now, people, I want you to hear
this. Just let you know how much she's
an icon. She said.
Well, you know, I still couldn'tmind working, working with him.
You know, I miss some of the directors and got shit.
They'll let you know how big onenation.
I don't know if I feel like you should win today.
(44:54):
Thank, you know, we all, we all go through things where you only
have so much focus and so much attention and sometimes you
shift a little bit. And I've been really focused on
my CBD brands, which means that I have to cut certain things
out. And traveling like all the way
to LA to shoot is been like a low priority lately.
(45:14):
Now y'all always here is talk about the experience of going to
desires AVN's. Fuck that, she got a CBD company
in the North to the Wind convention should be going to
the festival. Tell us how it is, how it's a,
how different it is to be prepared for that versus like
(45:35):
Exotic or ABN because this is a different crowd.
Totally different crowd. The first thing I don't have to
worry about outfits like like like the beach shows and a lot
of the, you know, we, we do some, we do dab days shows and
then we do the alternative product Expos.
Yeah, I just, I put on our logo shirts and a pair of leggings
(46:00):
and that's what we wear. Yeah, I bet you like your fence
was a little bit better, Yeah. Well, The thing is it's like
it's nice to have the attention focused off of me and on these
amazing products. You know, I'm not there to get
attention. You know, for me, like I am
there to show these worlds, these amazing products that we
(46:22):
have. Almost every now how many things
you run into there. A lot.
A lot. Yeah.
You know, it's, it's there's a whole method to my madness.
You know, this is, there's a whole reason why I feel like I
could be successful with ACBD company because cannabis is
(46:45):
something that's not only near and dear to my heart, but I know
that there are a lot of crossover markets between the
trees. So, yeah, you know, there's
definitely, but there's also a lot that people that don't know
me, you know, which is really, really refreshing.
Like, I love that. Not that I'm trying to hide, but
(47:10):
it's like. Well, because it's probably
you're the opposite from from some other people.
It's a rarity that someone don'tknow you versus.
Yeah. You know what I'm saying versus
it's a rarity that they know you, you're going to say I'm
still. Working on for like the rarity
that. They know me.
If if there is, for example, a young black man that comes up to
(47:34):
my booth. Yeah.
I am ready because I am 95% surethat he probably knows who I am,
wants to talk about that, which is fine, let's do it.
But sometimes I'm wrong and I'm like, oh, you don't even know.
(47:55):
Like they'll come up to the booth and ask me some products
or be like, hey, can I take a picture with your sign over
here? And I'm like, sure, take a
picture with this sign. No, it was funny.
We go back to his boys, like, did you know who you was talking
to? Yeah, or, or they'll be like,
(48:16):
hey, could you take this picturefor us?
I'm like, I would love to take this picture for you.
Let me do it. It'd.
Be a good to be considered a regular person.
Yeah, like, it's just nice. It's just nice.
I, I do like it, you know, I, I mean, not that I didn't don't
like fame or anything like that,but The thing is like, we
(48:36):
already know that part. But I'm famous.
I know I'm famous. I I've achieved it.
Yeah, because even with me, likefor me doing the music, you
know, so well before I did porn or what have you, and being
around like the stars opening upfor them.
They want to be treated like regular folk.
(48:59):
They because they, they, they, they get that fan, that fanboy
fangirl shit. There's raging when someone just
talk to him as a normal human being.
Sometimes, you know, I know a lot of celebrities as well,
obviously, and it always surprises me the amount of
people that actually just reallyenjoy being famous.
(49:19):
Yeah. Oh, no, no, no.
They, they, they, they. There's many.
There's a lot. 95% of them enjoythat shit.
Really enjoy being famous and they kind of want you to fan out
a little bit and if you don't, they're like a little like
offended. I don't know if they're offended
or if it's like an ego crush, but I've seen it happen many
times to the point where I'm like, I think that that's
(49:39):
probably more than not because people that have sought out
fame, they they want that, you know, like that's part of the
whole thing. Like that's that's part of it.
Yeah. And yeah, that was just that I
never thought this out for fame.I don't mind being famous.
It's OK. But like also it's really cool
(50:03):
when somebody doesn't know me and I'm like, no, no, no, it's
OK. You don't have to know me.
You don't know her. What do you mean?
And yeah, I'm like, it's OK. Just like.
Yeah, because I see you on a bunch of podcasts and, and stuff
and, and I think, wait a second,I think I saw you on a big
broadcast talk about the CBD. Was he one of the news?
(50:26):
I swear I don't. Know I don't know what was it.
Was it? I think I try to think, yeah,
I'm not sure I do a lot of. People that you would talk about
your CBDS? Yeah.
You know what I'm saying? I mean she beat people.
Did she beat that many places? Man, I'm just get Google you.
(50:47):
You were surprised. It shouldn't be, but you will be
so oh man, so for you also I seethat you knew you have ladies
that you, that you work, that work under you, learn under you
or what have you. What now do you bestow on them?
You know, I did have a management company and I ran
(51:10):
that for a few years, but we're not really doing that anymore.
It's just it's a lot of work. It's a lot of work.
Yeah, yeah. And I, these are people's
careers that are in my hands andI owe them the respect of like,
staying on top of things and getting back to them in time.
And it's it was more work than Iwanted it to be.
(51:38):
Yep. But you know, one of the things
I I tell a lot of people is thatyou should know your worth, you
know, like and and just like be real about it.
Like, you know, you never, you never can negotiate from a low
point to always negotiate from ahigher.
(52:00):
Yeah. And, you know, just different
things with like branding and stuff like that.
Yeah, there's a lot. There's a lot of I'm a very
skeptical person too. So whenever I appreciate it,
whenever another performer comesto me and wants me to like, you
(52:21):
know, maybe read over some paperwork with them or
something, or read over a contract because yeah, everybody
gets scammed. And I always feel.
Like, he is out to scam you. And what's really crappy is
like, a lot of times a company may not be scamming you right
(52:43):
now, but the paperwork that you're about to sign will allow
them to scam you in the future. Yeah, you know, And you always
have to like cover your ass for that, just in case.
This goes back to your head is God bless the child that has her
own can't cheat yourself. You feel me?
So people, I didn't hear this gorgeous boss lady up here for
(53:06):
an hour and you know we had to bring her back.
I'm going to talk to her becauseI know she was one time on the
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(54:35):
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And that's about it. Thank you so much for having me
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(54:57):
No doubt, no doubt. So people, you know how I end
this thing. What did you smoke over?
What did you learn? Because I want to educate you at
the same time entertain you. So what you should learn is this
porn should get to the point where it's one of the things
that you do, not all of it. You want your brand to expand
(55:22):
like this lady's brand, you feelme?
You want to find different ways of making money that ain't got
shit to do with porn. The reason why?
Because you can use your persona, your your, your porn to
be a stepping stone to greater shit.
See, the problem is that people don't come into this game
(55:43):
thinking long term. They're thinking short term.
And when you think short term, let me tell you what you get
short term money. I don't give a damn if you look
at Phillips, you buying blue or you just the lady, just start
out because the key is, yeah, I made $1,000,000.
But the key is to consistently make that $1,000,000 over the
years and for it to get bigger and bigger and better.
And you were able to make enoughmoney to invest to do other
(56:05):
shit, you feel me? Because see this lady over here,
she invested in a a, a, a, a product that, trust me, that is
growing CBD is in all the smoke shops across America, you feel
me? You know how many rappers are
right now trying to get to the cannabis industry?
(56:28):
You know how many people trying to get into this growing
industry because at some point weeds going to get legal in
these United States. See also part of being the
biggest owner is seeing what's next and what's ahead.
See once again, I keep saying the keyword to all of this is
business. Business people make 1,000,000.
(56:53):
Country creators just make moneywhat you want to be.
So with that being said, you're not wearing anything all day.
Everyday life is a learning experience.
What's the point being experienced if you haven't
learned anything? Smoke this over Miss Sarah.
Jay, please say goodbye to the smokers.
Goodnight. None.
Express that and explore that isbecause of how dangerous and how
like harmful homophobia is within male community right.
Like if you go out and kiss a guy, you might get fucking
jumped right? Like if you kiss a guy on the
street. Now, this isn't to say it's.
Yeah, because I know it gave youGod tell people when you go to
(00:27):
these conventions, it gives you confirmation of how far you have
grown in your career. And also, I'm pretty sure you
had a bunch of the top towns that you haven't shot with, say,
we've seen your video. Yes, yes, I've had people who
come up who can make money off. Of it but see you think about
these OK, let's just keep it 1 honey, the girls nowadays don't
(00:48):
give a fuck about the money, they want to go back.
Yeah. So so it's kind of like the
girl, a lot of the girl that don't show their face with the
feet. It ain't because they make more
money with the feet back to where you're not doing the
content housing, you're shootingcontent, but you're not shooting
with everybody got their Mama now.
(01:09):
Just kind of the circled and closed up a little bit to make
yourself. Yes, yes, yes.
How you doing Mom? I'm really good.
I'm really good. Oh my God, yes, not totally
(01:32):
understand. You a busy lady I've been
following because you be everywhere from you, from
festivals, we conventions, porn conventions, all that stuff.
Be you like as it is. How do you do it man?
I ask myself that all the time, you know?
(01:55):
Yeah, a lot of times I spread myself thin, burn the candle at
both ends, you know? I mean, because you like this,
you had been a lady Dad, I got to put this you were known for
porn, but now your branding expanded.
So like extensively yo and whereyou contribute that to yo.
(02:19):
Seriously. I just got a lot of drive and,
you know, motivation. I'm just not the type of person
to relax too much and just sit around and do nothing.
I was just saying that the otherday, like I, I'm just not the
type of person. Even if I had the yeah, I just
couldn't do it. I just couldn't sit around and
do nothing. I'm always coming up with ideas
(02:41):
and businesses and ways to make money and ways to make products
and ways to make people happy. And yeah, so it's like I'm
constantly thinking of things. I'm just not that person.
Yeah, because like this week. Disgusting out on the side of
the street, you know, like in the park or whatever.
I'm like, yeah, that's not me. Yeah, 'cause even like with me,
like I'm in between like 9:00 to5:00, we're happy, right?
(03:05):
And I feel so out of place because like my body was telling
me this morning to get up and goto work And I was like, wait a
second, I don't have a child right now.
You know what I'm saying? And also getting up to record
the new podcast and stuff like that and everything.
And for you, like I said, you have really, let's just say you
(03:30):
the queen of CBD show, because it's like one you have some
people can understand that she has a Lube.
You have self-care and and the whole night cause a lot of
people when they do the CBD is more about the edibles.
Sure, sure. You know what I'm?
Saying going into, you know, Wellness products, the things
(03:50):
that I have in that my company produces are things that I
needed as I've gotten older, youknow, pain robs, I've got our
pain relief for a long won an award.
And yeah, so we've got like a lot of products that I just came
up with because those are products that I needed that I
(04:11):
wanted CBD in, you know, so the one of one of the products that
I'm most proud of is our intimate healing cream.
And there's not really a productlike this out there.
It's for your intimate areas. Men or women can use it and it
really like does healing and like pain relief.
So if you've got anything like, you know, maybe razor bumps or
(04:35):
lasered and it's like irritated or you, you know, grinding and
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She is electric and people, if you know, if you a premium
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(07:37):
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(07:57):
Hello. Hello.
No, I, I, I did a deep dive discussing the history of
interracial porn from the What was behind the Green door up
until, you know what I'm saying,all the way up to the present
day. And I talked about how you was
one of the ladies that pushed anenvelope when it wasn't cool,
(08:19):
when it wasn't out there like that.
You feel what I'm saying? And it was a rarity, you know,
and also what you had to deal with because of you doing
interracial, because I've been to realize it was frowned upon
for girls to do interracial. Yeah, that's what I hear.
(08:43):
So you never ran into that then?No, not really.
And I probably did and just didn't care.
And like, I just didn't. For me, it wasn't a big deal.
Like I, it was a big deal for everybody else in the world and
for me, you know, like I never ever thought about the color of
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the person's skin I'm having sexwith other than the fact they're
pretty or not. You know, like, I like it or I
don't like it. You know, like some people have
nicer skin. It's smoother, it's softer, you
know, the, the like, textures maybe like some bumpier on other
people. But yeah, like, I just never
really thought about it. And then I wanted, like somebody
(09:30):
mentioned it to me. I'd already been in the industry
like for three years, maybe like3 years, and somebody said
something about like interracialand like kind of made it a big
deal and I was like, yeah, huh. What do you mean?
You were like wait, wait, what'sthe problem?
(09:50):
I don't get it. No, I didn't even know.
Like I didn't even know. That was like a special genre,
like I don't having sex with black guys on camera or black
women or like anybody, whoever. And I just didn't at some point
early, like early, but not that early on.
Like I'd already, I've been doing this 25 years.
So like, it already been like a couple years and somebody said
(10:11):
something about interracial and I was like, oh, that's a thing.
Yeah, does that it, it was like a research right And I went
through. A color, a person's skin is just
the same as a color a person's hair.
Yeah. You know, like, oh, I like
people who have red hair. Like, I like people who are
blonde. But like, it wasn't like a thing
(10:32):
like, and to be for it to be a thing was like really
surprising. But I guess I just never really
did my. When I did my research, I said
well damn. And then I do remember when I
talked to producers back then, they was like, yeah, they kind
of did try to discourage girls from doing it.
And I was like, but it's it's a money maker.
(10:56):
I don't, you know what I'm saying?
Now it's like the shit. Yeah.
You know, I never really had an agent and like, I always hustled
all my own work for the most part.
And honestly, like, I think it'sthe girls, the girls that have
(11:16):
managers and agents, they're theones who would guide them like
that. And I think that's just wrong.
Look at my career, you know, like it doesn't even make sense.
Like if you just think about it in a science numbers kind of
way, if you only do movies that if you do movies that exclude a
(11:38):
whole bunch of people. Yeah.
You're not going to make money off that whole bunch of people,
you know, like it's just, it just makes sense.
Like why would? Why would?
I don't understand why that would be good advice ever.
But if we want to be honest about it, back then it was a
(11:59):
bunch of old white dudes. That's what I'm trying to say
without saying it like that. No, fuck that.
We say that on my show. No, we don't go shit, baby.
Before that, there's. Not any logical advice that
would say otherwise. Like you just can't tell me
that, Yeah. Yeah, and it and to me it's like
(12:20):
because it's funny when I sit back and even when I I did
interracial because before it got you know, cool and I'm like
y'all making a big deal on something that has been in
point. It just wasn't prevalent.
Just like anal wasn't prevalent,gang bangs wasn't prevalent.
Now gang bangs. Is this the year the gang bang?
It's like everybody wants to do a game.
Do you remember so many girls wanna do gang bangs when he was
(12:45):
coming? Up.
I'm going to contribute that to the fact that when I was coming
up, we didn't have as many male aids.
Like, you know, see, there was there was, I remember the first
time I had sex with somebody on Viagra.
It was on camera and I was like,what the fuck is wrong with his
(13:08):
that guy's Dick? Like after the scene was over, I
went to the director. I was like, what the fuck was
wrong with that guy's Dick? And he says to me, he's like,
what do you mean? I was like, it wouldn't go down.
I was like, I know how to make Dicks cum and I was doing all
the things. And it wasn't that he didn't
like it. His Dick was like rock hard and
it just like wouldn't go down. Like it took forever.
(13:28):
Like what should have been in like a 20 minute situation was
easy 45. I was like, why is it taking so
long? You know, it's just not right.
And so now I think that has facilitated a lot more not just
like group sex, but like just sexual Olympic like things, you
(13:53):
know, like things that you shouldn't be able to do.
And your Dick is hard. Your Dick is hard and it should
not be right. Now oh God, I heard about the
ejections, all that shit. And then too also with research
because I plan to do a deep divetalking about how sex have
changed in porn, right? Yeah.
(14:13):
I watch like the old vintage 80s.
Yeah, the actual sex scene was no more than 7 minutes, maybe
10. Yeah.
Yeah, we got to do 2020, but. There was, like a lot of acting,
though. There was also, like, talking
back then. Yeah, yeah.
So. I I like, I foresee more things
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where like people are going to be in the middle of doing, I
don't know, things like skydiving or something and be
able to like maintain an erection the whole time because
you just shot up, shot up your Dick, you know.
Yeah. And there's a lot of there is a
lot more guys that are availablefor gangbangs, etcetera, because
they do shoot up their Dicks andthey're like, yeah, no worries,
(14:56):
I got it. It's fine.
Then. Whereas before, if a guy, you
know, was uncertain or like maybe even hopeful that he could
like work through a gangbang andhe just made might not even sign
up for it. You know, now girls get a lot
better content. Well, not just girls, but people
get a lot better content for those type of scenes.
(15:19):
And whereas I never like to, I don't like the coordination of
so many people. First of all, also like you, you
are just hopeful. You just hope that this works
out. Yeah, because like one girl, I
heard it when she was on Twitterpage talking about that she got
her butt hole real doing a gang bang.
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I was like, wow, you know what I'm saying?
And I mean, I ain't got no girlfriend, people.
Are involved, like, you're not going to be as confident of
everybody's level of professionalism either.
Yeah, whatever that means to you, you know, like more people,
more germs is the really easy way to say it.
That's the way I always think about like shit.
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More people, more germs. Let's hear him as you did,
because you are you a producer studio on all that stuff?
Is the ladies more concerned about the number of men more
than the quality of what the gang bang is going to look like?
People are concerned about quality, I think, and like, it
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depends. It depends on what your goal is.
But like all, I think it's very gimmicky to worry about the
number of men you know. That's very gimmicky.
If you're going to be worried about the number of men, then I
think you should just like aim high and like.
Talk about she need 1000 dudes. Yeah, well, that chick is like
(16:44):
that chick is that's what her thing is.
You know, it's like numbers, like quantity make a spectacle
of it too. Like, yeah, it's it's part of
the marketing and promotion. I'm not like shitting on her at
all. Do whatever you do.
But The thing is, it's like it is very gimmicky.
It is right I mean. Because that's something that
you will want to be I. Was going to say that that's
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like you're not going to make a whole website of like everybody
on this site fucks 1000 dudes. You know what I mean?
Like we've got 1000 dudes. You just run one girl through
every now and then, like through1000 dudes.
There's not going to be a website of, you know, that's not
so it's going to be like a one off like a marketing thing, you
know. Yeah, because I don't think you
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can predicate your career off ofdoing Game 8 because the fans
going to get bullied with it to a certain extent.
We end up seeing a lot of man ass a lot of times too honestly
and not the saying that that manass is bad.
Maybe you want to look at man ass but like we don't get it
doesn't really show showcase thegirl.
Yeah. In like the best way.
(17:50):
I mean, it's definitely one of the ways that we can showcase
performer, but it's not the onlyway that you want to be
showcased. You know, like you just see
pieces of parts. You see an arm and a leg here
and there. Yeah, because see, to me it's
like when it's too many numbers,it it, it, how can I put this?
(18:13):
It muddies up the the scene to me.
You know what I'm? Saying, I mean, don't get your
twisty. It's a lot of manners.
Yeah, and a. Lot of arms.
Yeah. It's, I think my favorites are
always like threesomes. I think threesomes is like the
perfect for whether it's a boy, boy, girl or a girl, girl, boy,
(18:33):
like there's always like a sexual assistant, like who's
doing it together. There's a sexual assistant to
assist in like squeezing, touching, like, you know,
whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, good.
To me, it's like it. Last year was anal, OK?
Everybody wanted to do anal. And this year it was just like
(18:54):
everybody wanted to do game plays.
I was like, I wonder what this year going to be?
And you know the the Dicks saying hard abnormally is for
both anal and gangbang. It's very helpful.
Yeah, because I tell people thisall the time, especially when
we're shooting. Y'all don't know how much shit
(19:15):
got to go right just for a ride sequence.
Fuck anal, the riding of the Dick.
You feel what I'm saying? Anal is a whole never told
difficulty because like I said, you got to catch her at the
right time, she got to be in thehornies and your Dick got to be
at the harvest. Yeah.
Dick is not going in, not even slightly.
(19:38):
Yeah. You know, and even with the
ride, because if he's not hard, he's just going just, you know,
slide, no slide off or what haveyou, you know.
How many guys don't realize thatlike, I'll be like, Are you
ready for me to ride? They're like, yeah, go ahead.
And I'm like, I don't think you are like he.
(20:02):
Just he just somewhere like. Yeah, you're like 7080% like.
Yeah, no 'cause you don't know Dad, when she get on top and
then your ass get soft, you'll be like oh fuck, you got to get
off a sudden Dick a little bit more to get you back on.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I know.
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I need to like if I ask, that means like, Are you ready?
You like? Yeah, I don't know anybody or
any guys, I guess, because I understand it's a profession,
especially if you're getting paid, you know what I'm saying?
(20:44):
But I know with damage it could do because especially if you
take it frequently, especially with with with them doing the
the ejections now. Oh man.
Because not everybody know how to use a needle.
I'm sorry you. Know, it's not even that.
It's like just getting your bodyused to that, you know, do you
really want to get your body used to that at such a young
(21:05):
age? And you don't think it takes a
toll on your, the way that your body is aroused, like mentally,
physically, like if your Dick can just get hard, you don't
even have to be aroused, you know, like which fucks out with
your head when you're not working.
(21:25):
And when you decide you don't want to do that shit anymore,
that whole system doesn't work the same like it used to, you
know? Yeah, yeah.
I just had, like, some recreational sex with a
performer recently, and they shot out their Dick beforehand.
And I was like, but like, you don't have to do that.
Like, I enjoy whatever is about to happen, you know, and.
(21:50):
See what I'm there? I'm retired.
It's like, I actually prefer it.I was like, OK.
Yeah, not to me. I'm like I tell you.
What I never had to use in an age, the most I had to use in
advanced was like the little, you know, pill that you might
get from the corner store where I've been smoking weed, you
know, but to me, I even go front.
(22:12):
I like, you know, every on camera sex not have to worry
about having the camera. You know what I'm saying?
I'm like, I guess because they need it for the confidence to
even fuck Because it's kind of like you.
I'm guessing, but there's probably a physical dependence
too. Yeah.
Yeah, like, like, I don't know if your Dick's going to like, I
(22:36):
don't know if your Dick works normal sometime after a certain
dependence. I guess it's just really risky
to play with that to me, like I had to like if I was a woman and
like I had to like shoot up my pussy to like my make my pussy
work better. Would I do it?
(22:58):
Fuck no, I wouldn't do it. They're on the side just I don't
think put it like that. Oh, hell no.
It's we're just gonna, we're gonna do exercises and we're
gonna just be fine with whateveris happening.
There's no way I would shoot up my pussy in order to work.
Forget it. No.
All right, you don't see, see, see that's why I told people I
(23:20):
said man, we have way more pressure because the woman pussy
is only not functional. Well, depending on the age, once
a month or depending well. You know what A bunch of shit.
Wait, that's never called any issues to be honest with.
You. No, because there's a thing
called instant soft cups. I don't see no, I don't see big
(23:41):
company pass them out. Don't want to hear that shit.
I'm on my monthly hill. Put this in.
Be ready in 15 minutes. Well, you know, it's everybody
has like a different situation, you know, Yeah, you want me to
get into lady stuff. But yeah, like, you know,
everybody's lady stuff is different.
But yeah, I work. I work through my period too.
It doesn't. It's not a thing.
(24:03):
She said it was nothing, Don't stop.
That'd be. She bought her bread, people.
Yeah. So, so that, like you say, you
never really had an agent because I'm talking to people
with agents who have you. And for you, what was the
benefit of you not having an agent?
(24:25):
You know what I'm saying? Because a lot of people say we
can't get to where we're out of agent, but go ahead.
There was only one agent when I started and that was Jim South.
And like, you could just go sit in his office.
Like everybody just sat in his office, whether it was signed up
with him or not. Like people just sat in his
office and hung out because he was the only agent there.
(24:46):
And I remember that being like athing that you did if you were
in LA and you didn't have any work, Like you could just go sit
in his office and meet people. Like it was more like a social
networking kind of vibe, you know, it seemed very important.
Like, yeah, he, he definitely wasn't actively like hustling
(25:12):
for all the performers that he had on the roster.
He just was like a place where people could meet up basically.
That's the way that's the vibe that I always had from it.
But yeah, like, I just kept networking.
Like I was, I was, I was always of the mindset that nobody sold
your pussy more than you know better than you did.
(25:33):
And especially after I didn't even realize that Jim's health
was an agent when I was when I would sit in his office
sometimes. Like I literally wouldn't
realize that guy. Was a cool dude.
I was just like, who is this guythat everybody like uses his
office to like get together at? And it took me like a long time
to realize that he was even an agent.
(25:54):
But then that was really the only agent in, you know, LA at
the time. And that was, you know,
representing performers. It wasn't until a while, like a
while after that the Asians cameon the on the scene.
And by then I was already like famous.
(26:14):
By the time there was more than,you know, just one agency, I was
famous like, and people who, andI also kept really good like
records and contact e-mail listsand stuff.
So I stayed in contact with people and I would just call
(26:35):
people. I would, I would make a immense
office schedule and I would hit up everybody in LA or everybody
in New York that 'cause I had a lot of companies that were
actually started in New York. So I had a lot of companies that
I worked for in New York especially like fetish companies
and stuff. And so, yeah, photographer stuff
like that. I was really good at just
(26:56):
networking and keeping track of everybody's contacts in a
contact list and let people knowwhen I was coming out.
Yeah 'cause because it was like people, yeah.
Y'all just really don't know, man.
This lady is like, she was like one of the ones that was
everywhere. And when I mean everywhere, like
everywhere, it was like every company.
(27:18):
It was like, you know, and then of course, when I started, you
started your own, you know, and also, like I said, you was one
of the ones that like myself, you was more independent, even
though you was working with companies.
Because even with me, I, I couldn't do the Hollywood, I
couldn't go out there, get them shoots.
They have too much pressure. Yeah, I can understand that.
(27:41):
You know, I enjoy working down in LA and working with different
companies, but almost just so I know what not to do sometimes,
you know, or like maybe what to do just like as an examples, you
know, and it also it brings yourname to like a whole different
market. But nothing is better than
(28:02):
owning your own, you know? Yeah.
So now for you, because you was out there, we about to get real,
you was out there and we know porn is a man ran business for
the most part. How much did being around these
dudes have some of these guys movement, act and not even from
the good to bad and ugly that makes you say I want to start my
(28:25):
own company? So ladies have a place and be
treated a certain way, shot a certain way, promoted a certain
way. You get what I'm saying?
Yeah, a lot to do with it too. Yeah, You know, OK, so like I
understand what you're saying. And I guess my focus was on like
(28:46):
cleanliness. Like I, yeah, like when you go
to set and it's like disorganized and it's dirty.
The set is dirty. The bathrooms are dirty.
Like, there's not a clean towel.There's no paper towels.
You're like, if you just have one woman on your squad, just
(29:09):
one woman on your squad, like just one, you just need one
woman. And she buys the paper towels
and she's like, oh, we need tampons.
And then she, you know, buys some bath towels because people
are going to want to shower and then maybe buy some soap.
Like I cannot tell you how many studios back in the day would
not have like most of this stufflike and these.
(29:32):
Suckers make billions. There's like a flower and like a
toilet and a sink and they're all dirty and they're have
running water, yes, but there's no towels and there's no soap.
Or there might be like a bottle of soap and it's like the last
of it, you know? And it's all.
And yeah, it was just like. Yeah, I heard a girl say that
(29:54):
they were like they had to bringtheir own cleanest supplies to
the studio. And honestly, if every studio
just had like one woman who was like in charge of making sure
that the other women here feel comfortable, like, I mean,
cleanliness wise, I mean, sure, other ways too.
But what was bothering me was like, Oh no, I think I could do
(30:17):
this like better. And like, like the other thing
is like food, most companies that back then didn't offer any
food at all, even if you were working like all day, they
didn't offer any food. And if they did, it was like
junk, you know, like like LittleDebbie's and stuff, like just a
box of Little Debbie's and a boxof gummy bears or something, you
(30:39):
know, and I'm simply, I'm not everybody, but some companies
like did really well with that, but a lot of companies just
didn't. And I thought, well, you know,
this always make you like think,well, if I had my own company,
this is how I would do it. If I had my own company, this is
how I would do it, you know, Andso that's, that was a lot of the
(31:00):
motivation. Plus I just started creating my
own content right away because I've had Sarah j.com since the
beginning. Sarah j.com is 24 years old and
I've got 24 years worth of content on there.
So yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, it's, it's nice to have
a like whole portfolio, but I'vebeen creating content for that
(31:23):
set of sites since the beginning.
Oh yeah, because it it and to you, what you, you is what I
call a kingmaker so people can understand this, that ladies,
you want to strive to where it'smore important for the
motherfuckers to shoot with you than you to shoot with them, You
(31:44):
know what I'm saying? And for you, for advice for
ladies getting to business, what's the best advice to give
them to take into account everything that's important
about their brand, especially the aesthetics of it.
Because I always tell people, part of your brand is also based
(32:05):
off who you fuck on that camera,how you look on that camera, how
you work that camera and and so forth.
You know, speak to that. Yeah.
You know, kind of like to relatewhat you're also saying before
as far as like being treated differently because you do it in
the rate school and stuff. One of the things is always the
rate, you know, and IR was like a step in that whole rate thing,
(32:31):
which was like really weird. But I always spoke against doing
that because I felt like you should create a brand and own
that brand from the beginning. You do all the things that you
would do, like if you like anal,yeah, if you want to start out
doing anal, go ahead. Like sure.
(32:54):
Granted, people try to do this whole like money levels, like
hold out for like the biggest dollar and I I get that, I get
that. But as far as like creating your
brand, do not be afraid to just do whatever the fuck you want to
do from the beginning. No, that might not be what
somebody would recommend you to do in order to make the most
(33:18):
amount of money for that one scene.
But The thing is, is if you're doing anal from the beginning,
think of all the anal scenes you're gonna be doing at an anal
rate, and you would have missed out on all those just because
you're holding out for that one big anal.
Unless you're only. If you're only gonna do it once,
(33:38):
you're only gonna do once. But if you're gonna start doing
anal after that, you might as well do it the whole fucking
time. I'm saying because to me it's
when you focus on that big payday it you're missing out on
your brand. Because and you're renting out
and creating an identity for whowho you are and what you like.
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But so many people get into thisbusiness for the wrong reasons
and they get into the business because they want to be famous
or they like dressing up or likethey want the money.
But The thing is, it's like, if you are creating a brand in your
persona and you're trying to have like longevity, you need to
like fully flesh that out of like what kind of persona you
(34:24):
are. The way that I always thought of
myself is actually pretty much how I am.
And that's like, I kind of like,I'm really fun sexually and I
kind of like belong to the world, like and I, I've always
kind of like thought of myself and in my persona as you know,
I'm here for y'all, you know? I can tell you why I want to
(34:48):
shoot with you because she was like to me, the sexy business
professional white lady. They like black men.
You feel what I'm saying? Because right.
For sure, yeah. Because it's like maybe because
the company she worked with, butshe always wore a sexy ass
(35:10):
outfit, the heels, you know whatI'm saying?
She was always when she was presented as sexy, flirtatious,
you know, sex symbol, you know, and and I think that we got lost
with this generation is the art of being fucking sexy.
Thank you. Thank you, Thank you.
Yeah, I I've always enjoyed being a grown up, you know, and
(35:36):
all the things that go with being like a grown ass woman.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. She lives in the city that that
we we with some sluggish behind it that wouldn't.
Yeah. So but to me it's like now the
girls just want to be thoughts. It ain't about being sexy.
(35:58):
It's not about being the sex symbol, you know what I'm
saying? It's just trying to sell the sex
and. Well, I mean the the work is on
them to do everything now. You know, like when I started,
at least we had the Internet andthere was other production
companies besides one, like one.Now there's just Mcphorn and you
(36:22):
know, there's just that one company, Mcphorn and everybody
else is putting out their own stuff and you know, and it,
that's one of the things that I always did, but I was rare.
Like now everybody is a content creator and really what they are
is they're the artist, they're the producer, they're the
(36:44):
director, they're the editor andthey are the marketer.
And it's a lot of fucking work anymore.
It really is like. Yeah, I don't.
Know how I would feel if I was anew performer right now like.
But see, but see with you though, you carry the image that
(37:07):
when they saw you on the big companies, they saw the same
thing on the site. You know what I'm saying?
Because I was always talking, I come from the same school as
you, the way that they saw you in the beginning.
They need to continue to see youthat.
Way, Yeah. Anything less than that is
hustling backwards. These girls are hustling
backwards. Yeah.
Because if to the point that youtook what you saw with working
(37:30):
with these companies and you brought to your own shit, made
it your own, you know, and I think and same thing with me
when I used to watch what you know, Cam cash game streets,
what y'all was doing what you know what I'm saying?
All them cats was doing out there in Hollywood and the
girls, them days, they won't go fuck with us unless we had that
(37:53):
look like that. Yeah.
People don't get that. They won't go and shoot this
across the board. If you didn't have studio
quality looking shit, you won't get nobody to come shoot with
you. Yeah, you.
Get paid. Yeah.
Because they care about the fuckabout this shit.
So do you think it's the way that they seen the people that
(38:14):
they looking up to this like like the girls looked up at you?
Do you think that's how they seewhat porn posed to be because
they see how these ladies are shooting?
No, I think they, they, the young people are just fucking
and filming it and seeing it's like like a bunch of spaghetti.
(38:37):
Just throw it on the wall and see what's 6/6.
No rhyme, no reason. I mean, it's they're basically
doing their own research, you know, on their own brand.
Yeah. You know, so that's why we have
different types of performers that shoot different types of
stuff. We got those girls that cosplay
(38:58):
and, you know, you got the performers that play video games
and yeah, I don't know, there's so many different types of
performers now. You know, I think they're just.
Yeah, it's, it's, it's a lot. Yeah.
I was like, man, 'cause he's a point.
Yeah. I was like, let let me get the
cosplay because I love the cosplays, because I love the
cosplay myself. But I'm seeing more of them
getting it, dropping some fuck videos out of this beach.
(39:20):
It's stuff of that nature. It's like, I just feel that all
women want to be porn stars. They just scared of the
reaction. They might get a big ditty.
I don't. I can't.
I can't agree with that. I know a lot of women that don't
want to be. Bullet stars I can't 'cause
someone who said can the regulargirls even the IG baby posing
(39:42):
like y'all they just. Yeah, well, I think those girls
are just trying to make money. You know, they want to sell the
dream. They're trying to sell the
dream. It's just like it's the
basically, it's the new champagne.
Room, Yeah. And, you know, it's the new
Champagne room. What's back there?
Champagne. Oh God, so oh now because you
(40:13):
know, we didn't beat in front ofcamp, we know how physical taxi
shooting and all that good stuff.
How much do your people or you suggest your people to use some
of your CBD stuff or suggestionson the porn star to use some of
your CBD stuff? You know, I'm saying especially
(40:33):
to help with the pains, the aches, because I keep telling
y'all it is sexual kalasthenics.Not only that, but like these
conventions, you know, I do so many shows and they're like 3,
sometimes four days long. My whole body is for after that
(40:54):
just from standing. My back hurts, you know, my neck
hurts from sleeping in like hotel pillows and stuff.
And then my feet will just, we have these bath bombs, they come
in four different cents and theyare 100 milligrams of CBD.
So that is stronger than almost any product.
(41:17):
Well, it's stronger than any product that we have.
And you get 100 milligrams through your skin,
transdermaline in one bath. And like, yeah.
So on a really long night, like,you know how the conventions are
usually, like, Friday, Saturday,Sunday, Saturday after after
(41:38):
working all day, Saturday, all night, she jumped in the bathtub
with one of those bath bombs. Naughty.
I don't even like to take baths that much because I can't sit
that long. You don't have to sit that long.
20 minutes, 15 minutes. And crawl out of there, right
into the bed. Yeah, cuz, cuz even with me,
(42:01):
like I'll be having shoulder pain a lot, you know what I'm
saying? And I kind of want to use
something that ain't tiger bomb that got tiger bomb effect, but
don't get the tiger bomb smell. Right.
OK, so our pain relief roll on, it smells like peppermint
because it's made with peppermint oil, which it's not
(42:23):
quite as offensive as that Tigerball maybe, but it is a roll on
and you can carry it in your pocket.
It's about the size of a chapstick.
And it's like I hit my elbows with it a lot.
My elbows. Well, tendonitis, tendonitis.
But yeah, it's good for like, on, you know, on the go.
(42:44):
Spot on. Yeah, 'cause I ain't scared to
everybody. I just turned 50.
Trust me, I'll be feeling this some more.
This guy, Dang it. I turned 48 this year.
Oh my God. I.
Know. See people, she don't even look
like she's supposed to be turning 48.
(43:04):
She's still like she just get into the 30s.
Just get. Right, you know, No, I know she
like my age. Babe, I mean, I'm looking at you
young shit. I'm like she, she ain't age for
shit. Thanks, you know, I, I live
(43:26):
good. I enjoy life.
I laugh a lot and I, I own all my years like I never lie about
my age because I, I had, I'm honored to have all those years
in the bank. I ain't.
Worried 'cause it just like likewith me, I had people like why
don't you dye your beard? I say it for fucking what?
(43:48):
I know that I'm old, I can't hide that.
Yeah, fuck it. No doubt it's what?
It is right? Oh yeah, so.
But you still shoot from time totime, right?
You do I, do I? I still have Sarah j.com.
I have my production company wideside.com and you know, I I
(44:09):
haven't been shooting for other companies in a couple of years.
You. Mean this behind you to the
point that do you really need to?
No, I don't you're. Kind of bigger than some of the
companies now. You know what, sometimes I want
to. I'm just, I miss people like I
miss directors and stuff. You're like, I haven't heard
from you in a long time. How you doing?
Like maybe we should shoot or something.
(44:30):
That would be cool. Now, people, I want you to hear
this. Just let you know how much she's
an icon. She said.
Well, you know, I still couldn'tmind working, working with him.
You know, I miss some of the directors and got shit.
They'll let you know how big onenation.
I don't know if I feel like you should win today.
(44:54):
Thank, you know, we all, we all go through things where you only
have so much focus and so much attention and sometimes you
shift a little bit. And I've been really focused on
my CBD brands, which means that I have to cut certain things
out. And traveling like all the way
to LA to shoot is been like a low priority lately.
(45:14):
Now y'all always here is talk about the experience of going to
desires AVN's. Fuck that, she got a CBD company
in the North to the Wind convention should be going to
the festival. Tell us how it is, how it's a,
how different it is to be prepared for that versus like
(45:35):
Exotic or ABN because this is a different crowd.
Totally different crowd. The first thing I don't have to
worry about outfits like like like the beach shows and a lot
of the, you know, we, we do some, we do dab days shows and
then we do the alternative product Expos.
Yeah, I just, I put on our logo shirts and a pair of leggings
(46:00):
and that's what we wear. Yeah, I bet you like your fence
was a little bit better, Yeah. Well, The thing is it's like
it's nice to have the attention focused off of me and on these
amazing products. You know, I'm not there to get
attention. You know, for me, like I am
there to show these worlds, these amazing products that we
(46:22):
have. Almost every now how many things
you run into there. A lot.
A lot. Yeah.
You know, it's, it's there's a whole method to my madness.
You know, this is, there's a whole reason why I feel like I
could be successful with ACBD company because cannabis is
(46:45):
something that's not only near and dear to my heart, but I know
that there are a lot of crossover markets between the
trees. So, yeah, you know, there's
definitely, but there's also a lot that people that don't know
me, you know, which is really, really refreshing.
Like, I love that. Not that I'm trying to hide, but
(47:10):
it's like. Well, because it's probably
you're the opposite from from some other people.
It's a rarity that someone don'tknow you versus.
Yeah. You know what I'm saying versus
it's a rarity that they know you, you're going to say I'm
still. Working on for like the rarity
that. They know me.
If if there is, for example, a young black man that comes up to
(47:34):
my booth. Yeah.
I am ready because I am 95% surethat he probably knows who I am,
wants to talk about that, which is fine, let's do it.
But sometimes I'm wrong and I'm like, oh, you don't even know.
(47:55):
Like they'll come up to the booth and ask me some products
or be like, hey, can I take a picture with your sign over
here? And I'm like, sure, take a
picture with this sign. No, it was funny.
We go back to his boys, like, did you know who you was talking
to? Yeah, or, or they'll be like,
(48:16):
hey, could you take this picturefor us?
I'm like, I would love to take this picture for you.
Let me do it. It'd.
Be a good to be considered a regular person.
Yeah, like, it's just nice. It's just nice.
I, I do like it, you know, I, I mean, not that I didn't don't
like fame or anything like that,but The thing is like, we
(48:36):
already know that part. But I'm famous.
I know I'm famous. I I've achieved it.
Yeah, because even with me, likefor me doing the music, you
know, so well before I did porn or what have you, and being
around like the stars opening upfor them.
They want to be treated like regular folk.
(48:59):
They because they, they, they, they get that fan, that fanboy
fangirl shit. There's raging when someone just
talk to him as a normal human being.
Sometimes, you know, I know a lot of celebrities as well,
obviously, and it always surprises me the amount of
people that actually just reallyenjoy being famous.
(49:19):
Yeah. Oh, no, no, no.
They, they, they, they. There's many.
There's a lot. 95% of them enjoythat shit.
Really enjoy being famous and they kind of want you to fan out
a little bit and if you don't, they're like a little like
offended. I don't know if they're offended
or if it's like an ego crush, but I've seen it happen many
times to the point where I'm like, I think that that's
(49:39):
probably more than not because people that have sought out
fame, they they want that, you know, like that's part of the
whole thing. Like that's that's part of it.
Yeah. And yeah, that was just that I
never thought this out for fame.I don't mind being famous.
It's OK. But like also it's really cool
(50:03):
when somebody doesn't know me and I'm like, no, no, no, it's
OK. You don't have to know me.
You don't know her. What do you mean?
And yeah, I'm like, it's OK. Just like.
Yeah, because I see you on a bunch of podcasts and, and stuff
and, and I think, wait a second,I think I saw you on a big
broadcast talk about the CBD. Was he one of the news?
(50:26):
I swear I don't. Know I don't know what was it.
Was it? I think I try to think, yeah,
I'm not sure I do a lot of. People that you would talk about
your CBDS? Yeah.
You know what I'm saying? I mean she beat people.
Did she beat that many places? Man, I'm just get Google you.
(50:47):
You were surprised. It shouldn't be, but you will be
so oh man, so for you also I seethat you knew you have ladies
that you, that you work, that work under you, learn under you
or what have you. What now do you bestow on them?
You know, I did have a management company and I ran
(51:10):
that for a few years, but we're not really doing that anymore.
It's just it's a lot of work. It's a lot of work.
Yeah, yeah. And I, these are people's
careers that are in my hands andI owe them the respect of like,
staying on top of things and getting back to them in time.
And it's it was more work than Iwanted it to be.
(51:38):
Yep. But you know, one of the things
I I tell a lot of people is thatyou should know your worth, you
know, like and and just like be real about it.
Like, you know, you never, you never can negotiate from a low
point to always negotiate from ahigher.
(52:00):
Yeah. And, you know, just different
things with like branding and stuff like that.
Yeah, there's a lot. There's a lot of I'm a very
skeptical person too. So whenever I appreciate it,
whenever another performer comesto me and wants me to like, you
(52:21):
know, maybe read over some paperwork with them or
something, or read over a contract because yeah, everybody
gets scammed. And I always feel.
Like, he is out to scam you. And what's really crappy is
like, a lot of times a company may not be scamming you right
(52:43):
now, but the paperwork that you're about to sign will allow
them to scam you in the future. Yeah, you know, And you always
have to like cover your ass for that, just in case.
This goes back to your head is God bless the child that has her
own can't cheat yourself. You feel me?
So people, I didn't hear this gorgeous boss lady up here for
(53:06):
an hour and you know we had to bring her back.
I'm going to talk to her becauseI know she was one time on the
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Also for the people on Spotify, I got you as well.
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(53:51):
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So make sure to take you to everybody where they can spend
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(54:35):
Check out Sarah J links.com where you'll get a little dose.
All of my adult stuff, all my CBD stuff, I've got Sarah J
cbd.com, which we are working ona rebrand by the way, and it's
going to be bare self-care, so check that out too.
And that's about it. Thank you so much for having me
on. I appreciate you.
(54:57):
No doubt, no doubt. So people, you know how I end
this thing. What did you smoke over?
What did you learn? Because I want to educate you at
the same time entertain you. So what you should learn is this
porn should get to the point where it's one of the things
that you do, not all of it. You want your brand to expand
(55:22):
like this lady's brand, you feelme?
You want to find different ways of making money that ain't got
shit to do with porn. The reason why?
Because you can use your persona, your your, your porn to
be a stepping stone to greater shit.
See, the problem is that people don't come into this game
(55:43):
thinking long term. They're thinking short term.
And when you think short term, let me tell you what you get
short term money. I don't give a damn if you look
at Phillips, you buying blue or you just the lady, just start
out because the key is, yeah, I made $1,000,000.
But the key is to consistently make that $1,000,000 over the
years and for it to get bigger and bigger and better.
And you were able to make enoughmoney to invest to do other
(56:05):
shit, you feel me? Because see this lady over here,
she invested in a a, a, a, a product that, trust me, that is
growing CBD is in all the smoke shops across America, you feel
me? You know how many rappers are
right now trying to get to the cannabis industry?
(56:28):
You know how many people trying to get into this growing
industry because at some point weeds going to get legal in
these United States. See also part of being the
biggest owner is seeing what's next and what's ahead.
See once again, I keep saying the keyword to all of this is
business. Business people make 1,000,000.
(56:53):
Country creators just make moneywhat you want to be.
So with that being said, you're not wearing anything all day.
Everyday life is a learning experience.
What's the point being experienced if you haven't
learned anything? Smoke this over Miss Sarah.
Jay, please say goodbye to the smokers.
Goodnight. None.
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