August 25, 2025 • 61 mins
This special episode I talk with Felicia Rivers , CEO, Director and Producer of Geechee One Films. Web discuss her newest release Heartless Outlaws which is a Black western. We discuss the perfect timing of the release with the rise of Black country music and the new line dance called " Boots On The Ground" She tells us about the making of the movie and the obstructions of making it to be a time piece movie she met and the storyline. We discuss her other projects she has released this past year and how these movies get distributed to the platforms.
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I don't know if it's it's it's, I don't know what it is, but.
I know it's it's it's it's theseheadphones that I got, OK.
I can hear you now. Let.
Me see this better, let me see this much better baby.
Yes, that's way back. Yeah, OK, yeah, because I had
the headphones, I took the headphones out so, so, so we can
make this good and everything. So, but how you doing today?
(00:23):
Because that's where it's the last time I caught your butt in
the car. I'm always in this car.
I was sitting there just thinking about that.
I said wait a second. The last time you got you on the
car, I'm. Always in this.
Car. Oh, but.
But see. But see, now that means that
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you're a busy woman. You stay busy all the damn time.
That's what it is. I get it.
Of course. Oh my God, and how have you
been? We haven't talked in a actually
a year. Actually last time I it was
around this time last year. I think it's.
(01:05):
OK, OK, well, we, we doing, we're doing a revisit with Miss
Gucci, right? Yay.
Oh. Yes, Oh yes, 'cause baby girl,
it was funny, 'cause I remember you talked about the Outlaw
movie right now. Yeah, and it just came out April
1st. It's on to Be Heartless.
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Outlaws is on to be as of April 1st.
It's my first western. It's a little different y'all,
but I still want all y'all to check it out please.
Are we going to talk about the see, this is what I want to talk
about because see smokers, I'm going to tell you what I find
funny right now. There's some people that I like
to say that they they are Negro domicists, especially black.
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Because it's funny how she told me about this, this movie, funny
how she dropped this movie and what's the number one dance in
the world? Boots on the God damn ground.
I was like, people going to watch the fuck out of this
movie. Well, see, what I think is
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that's also let you know I'm ahead of my time because, you
know, we shot this like 2 1/2 years ago.
So it's I'm ahead of my time. And, you know, Beyoncé got her
country album out. So yeah.
Yeah, that is crazy as shit. It I'll ask you question.
We right before you about to drop the moves right.
Did you see that thing like well, damn, did I not did how
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did I see that country and cowboy and black cowboy was
going to become a theme by the time I dropped this movie.
Hello. I think she we're out for a
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meeting, ladies and gentlemen. I think she'll be back in a
second. Can you hear me?
I can hear you. Can you hear me?
Yeah, yeah. You just came back.
You just came back. OK, so I did this, we shot this
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about 3 years ago, right? So I wasn't there.
I don't know. I wasn't thinking Beyoncé, the
car, you know, I wasn't thinkingthat and I wasn't thinking, am I
equity? No, no, you good.
You. Good.
Yeah, it has me echoing hold. On wait, wait, wait a second,
(03:41):
let me. See last talk.
Because you got two, you ain't two.
Want to call it? Hold on, let me.
Kick me out of one of. Them OK, yeah, you better now
can. You hear me?
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
OK. So, yeah, so I was not taking
that. We did this like 3 years ago.
(04:02):
We gotta, you know, it was just something different I wanted to
try. So, you know, that's God right
there, I think. I'm saying you God no play about
you girl. How much?
Is this how much? Is it you God, no play about you
because it was just funny because it was like when I saw
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the the the advertisement, I said, well damn if damn her
timer went on point for everything that was going on and
also fitting for what's going onbecause like lots of that I talk
about because, you know, smokers.
I try to expand my palette away from the adult film industry and
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I like talking to people that are creators on two week because
they do what we do, but not to the full extent.
So it's kind of same thought process.
And one of the things I was talking about with my peers was
us telling our story and the story, our eyes through our
community and so forth, you know, period.
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And. You're perfect with this because
that's what many of your storiesare about.
Even with this, the the cowboy, you know what I'm saying?
We don't see a lot of black cowboy representations in
Hollywood. Let's keep one.
You don't. Hello, should be back again.
(05:34):
Oh no. Hello.
I'm here. I don't know what this thing is.
(05:57):
Not because you're probably driving and you hitting spots
and just going in and out the Internet, that's all.
Clicking again, you're not gonnahear me for a second, just a
second because when I when I onesecond, I'm about to it's so I
might have two of me again in a second.
Hold on. OK, one second.
I just want to because I'm trying to put the phone down so
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I wouldn't touch phone so that might help.
Enter studio your end. OK got it.
OK I'm putting the phone down sotake off my other echo I got.
It actually I'm going to switch to the new one.
Let's. See here Studio Alright, get
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better. Can you hear?
Me, yeah. So like I was saying when the
conversation I was having with my peers in my genre, with your
drama does very well and people,she actually won the award for
it. But we'll get to that in a
second. We'll get to that in a second,
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you know. Oh, wait a second.
Ain't gonna. It's been 7 minutes.
I haven't even spoke to my smokers.
Hold on. Give me one second.
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this gorgeous lady. She's awarded winning director
and producer black-owned and people I've seen the pictures.
(08:31):
She gorgeous. She's fine.
She's fine. She's fine as the accuracy that
she got they booked. I ain't even gonna lie.
You know pretty and even saw that she even participated in
one of the movies. I'm talking about the Geechee
one herself, Felicia Ribbon. They don't know to the smokers.
(08:53):
I love smokers so so before I gointo become a movie more, how do
you feel to win an award and hold on?
I got to say it right, because at best film at the Beautiful
Soul Film Festival. Let's go, let's go.
(09:14):
We got award. I, I want, I didn't want that.
Like where did you even get thatfrom?
I won that a long time ago. Well, shoot, we didn't talk
about it the last time I'm on. Your page Oh, OK, gotcha 'cause
I'm like, I'm like, where you where you finding you find some
old stuff? OK, but I'm I appreciate it
(09:36):
winning that award we won. I think that might have been
best short film for the movie Justice Justin.
Excuse me, that's on Amazon Prime, but I've done so much
movies since that movie, you know?
What I'm saying, so I may break at that time, was it not because
even with me with me when I retired from the adult film
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industry, me being nominated forABN for the podcast kind of was
a confirmation that I was on theright path.
How much was this a confirmationthat you you you on your way?
Of course, I'm a jump in the question, are you going to the
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Black Podcast Festival this weekend in Atlanta?
No, I wish. I don't even know about it, but
thank you because I'm going to look into that to go next year.
OK, I heard about it. I was like, should I go to
Atlanta? I don't know, but I was thinking
about it and I meant to ask you that question, but.
(10:45):
Go ahead. No, I'm listening.
Go ahead. I'm.
Sorry, yeah, no, no. But like I said, how much did at
the time when you wanted was theconfirmation that you are
heading in the right direction, what you're doing and built your
company? Yeah, I thought it was awesome
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because, you know, we're competing against a lot of
people. So and we won that one and you
know, and then also it's like wewe wondered why we was in
Atlanta and we actually had likemaybe about 10-15 people that
was from Atlanta but from Charles to that mood school.
And so I thought that was prettydope to actually have people
(11:28):
from Charleston come and supportbecause you know, sometimes when
you go out of town, it just be you by yourself.
But then it was like, oh, these people y'all live here?
Yeah, we live here now. But we came here to support you
and watch your film. And so I think that's pretty
dope. So I know a couple times I've
been to Atlanta and maybe at least 6 plus people from
Charleston that has moved to Atlanta would be there to
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support myself. So that's a pretty dope thing.
So it's like, you know, you got a little following when people
do really come out of support. Oh yeah, because especially when
you got it, because when you do these projects, because even
with me, because I supposed to be going to Orlando to a content
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house, but some people don't know what it is.
If you're a day one smoker is when a bunch of time I get
together and they shoot content together and they, you know,
share the content and I plan to do a little expose about it.
And when you do these projects, you put a lot of energy, heart
and soul into it. So you see it when it was, when
you see it's, it's kind of like a weight off your shoulders that
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that they really feeling what I'm doing.
You know what I'm saying? You know, and it also inspires
you to do more. You feel me?
This is people out there waitingto see what you're going to do,
of course. And you been doing it, girl, I'm
like I I swear it's it's like you you be pumping.
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I I like bag. So now I got to ask you this
because I guess it might have been old.
I saw that you was an extra 1, Iguess one of the scenes that
everybody would dress up in togas.
OK, so that's old too. Yeah.
So you just looking through the old stuff because I'm about two
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or three weeks ago I was in Atlanta and I just played nurse,
excuse me, Doctor Wang and the husband mistress crew and that
was 2-3 weeks ago. So if y'all go to Toby, there's
three The Husband Mistress on Toby.
One is the Toby original, which is cool.
One is Robert Parker. He put out a movie called The
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Husband's Mistress as well and it came out another Husband's
Mistress that's been out by Raquel Williams.
She's a she writes books, so she's turning her books into
movies. So I am Doctor Wang and the
husband Mistress too. That hasn't came out yet, but
you can go to Toby and watch 1. So yeah, I'm, I'm doing a little
bit of acting and I did that on a Friday.
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So on that Saturday, I actually,me in my, my second coordinator,
her name is Kristen. We actually went to Charlotte
and we filmed as extras on a movie called Ebony Excellence
with Romeo Pearl. And so, so Saturday, Charlotte,
Sunday, Atlanta, we did that. I was like 3 weeks ago.
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Smokers, as you can see, just like in the boy business, in the
movie business, some of us are actors and producers and
directors all together. You know, how do you feel to be
in front of the camera? OK, so I'll be honest with you,
right? I don't, I don't really be in
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front of the camera. So basically, I like, I know the
lines. I know the lines.
Simple, short, awesome. Why did I freeze up?
And it was like, I like, oh God,what is my line?
And it was like kind of embarrassing.
Everybody's looking at me like you don't know your lines.
Because you know, if you ever come on my set, the first thing
I say to you, I guess is I don'tsay hello to you.
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I say, do you know your lines? That's what everybody's saying.
So I made a post about that too.And they be like, I don't even
ask you how you doing? Hello.
I'll be like, hey, you know yourlines, you know your lines.
And then when I got on this set and I know my lines, that's what
I know my line. I know the lines now I can read
you the lines, right? I can tell you a lot.
I, I, I'll do it if you want me to.
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But I, I know my line. So it's like she's like action
and I'm like, damn, what's the line?
And then and it, it was like 5 takes of me acting like, Oh my
God, like I, I forgot what my line was.
It was horrible, but I know my line.
See, it's see, people realize it's harder to be in front of
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that camera sometimes than to bebehind it.
But I finally got it I guess after this 5th take trip so.
But even I finally got it. But even the important to be to
be asked to be in front of the camera.
You feel what I'm saying. It's like, how does it feel to
to stretch or at the lace, even though it may not be much, it
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might be as an extra, you know what I'm saying?
He's still you being in front ofthe camera, you feel me.
And it kind of sometimes gives you an appreciation for being
behind the camera also. You feel what I'm saying?
Correct. Well, I felt embarrassed because
then it's like, you know, and then you know, because I'm
really hard on my actress. Anybody want to act with me?
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If you want to be a lead, I do put a lot into you and you got
to put a lot into us. You're not you don't just show
up and be like, what's my lie? Because I don't like that.
So for me to do the same thing, it was, it did feel kind of, you
know, embarrassing. It's like, because everybody's
looking at you like, are you gonna do shit or not?
(16:57):
No, I thought you were thinking in your mind was like, I just
fussed out Jeremy because he couldn't get his lines right and
I'm over here messing up. And I know the lies.
I can tell you the lies I love, Miss Clark.
I can tell you the damn lies. The lies ain't like, it was
just, I guess me and I, I was dehydrated a little bit, so
maybe I was thirsty. I don't know.
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That's what I told her. I was like, you know, I need a
little stuffed water. And then he was just like, Oh
my. God see now feeling, I realized.
Evening, but that we talk about this.
You know, when I talk to the adult film stars, not every day
on set is going to be a breeze. Because it it, it because we
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depending on the shoot, you may have lines, you may not the
chemistry between you and the talent may not work well, you
know what I'm saying? It's it's the same because
there's chemistry between you, especially if you're the lead
actor, there's chemistry betweenyou and the people that's onset
that you, you know what I'm saying, working with when it
comes to, you know, going back and forth with the lines and
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stuff. So when you as a director, how
do you help your actors gain chemistry?
So where that like where where the those scenes do move flaws
from your end? Well, it depends on what type of
scene it is. So that's what you probably do
during rehearsal, during Zooms, doing in person like hey, y'all
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need to meet up. Because if you're supposed to be
best friends, people want to seethat.
People want to feel that, you know, and we can do some people
can do it real good. Just be everybody's friend and
be faking. And then you got some people you
can just tell like y'all don't even look like y'all would hang
with each other. Y'all don't like each other.
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You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, she the killer,
you know I for real. So it's like, 'cause I'm
thinking even with Zoom, Zoom's I, but I don't think you really
get that in in person. You know, even sometimes it's
not even about the rehearsal sometimes just hey, let's get
something to eat, let's hang out, let's get to know each
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other. And, you know, this is your man
in the next movie. This is your best friend.
Like we want people to feel the chemistry between you guys.
So like I said, some actors justget it and then some actors
really, hey, you know, let's go talk, let's hang out.
Let's, you know, you may Yang, you may Yang.
So it just it depends on the person.
But I don't think, I mean, you know, Zoom's OK, but that's why
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I said I think in person rehearsals you really can get
that chemistry. Yeah, because it's because it's
just funny, because with, well, y'all can say the same with
y'all world, because with us we have the content world where the
the talent get together, they feel.
And if you have the mainstream, you know, with the independent,
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I I guess with the independent, y'all just have less of a budget
to work within the majors. But to me I think y'all are more
creative with less than what they are with more.
You feel where I'm coming from because even when I look at the
outlaw, it did Western hands down.
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I haven't even seen the movie yet and I already know that big
fire. You feel, you feel me?
And I'm a Western kind of guy. And for you, it's like speak to
because this ain't just a regular movie where this is this
is a time piece so people can understand this almost the way
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that the way that you describe you feel what I'm coming from
and the way that it look. Speak to what you had to go
through to give it that look, togive it that authenticity when
it comes to cowboy and all that.OK.
So it's it's sort of a modernized Western because a lot
of stuff I couldn't really change.
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So like we have electricity. Yeah.
Now we do have horses. I did, you know, like I said, I
had to pay for horseback riding.So we do have them on the
horses. We do have them on a ranch.
Some of them do look kind of dirty, you know, kind of grungy.
I changed the look of the movie too.
So a lot of people don't understand that.
I wanted to go for like that 1980s type feel of a movie and I
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think we did that. So I know some people, you know,
2025 everybody's looking for that sharp crisp, you know, but
I, I actually went with an effect on the movie so it could
look more crunchier. So it is a great it it it's
totally different. Like it's I, I mean, are you
able to pay? Are you able to play a trail on
here or no? Actually, yes, actually, yeah.
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Well, so send me the link, send me the link, send me the link.
I'm kind of listen 'cause it might kick me off.
You can go to YouTube. Where would I find it on your
page? On YouTube, YouTube, YouTube.
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Yeah, you put a Heartless Outlaws trailer.
OK, hold on. We're about to go to YouTube
right now. I'm gonna pull it up in a
second. Say, say that.
Hold on. Wait.
I'm sounding so stupid. Hold on.
Let me see it. Heartless outlaws.
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Let's go, let's go aha, all right, then we about to do now
before now, before before we go into this.
Like I said, the point still is you made it a cowboy authentic,
even though it's with what you had to work with.
You feel what I'm saying, correct?
So. Correct, because there's some
things I can't change. Yeah.
(22:51):
Continue. I'm sorry, are we talking?
Are we talking? No, no, no.
Go ahead. Speak.
Speak, speak, speak. This week we talking about you,
baby. Tell.
Tell them about the damn movie. Tell them.
No, I was just talking over here, but yeah, I'm agreeing
with you. I'm sorry I'm agreeing with you.
But it's just like certain things we couldn't change.
Oh look, it's. Not like I don't smoke, I.
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Need to certain things we couldn't change but we worked on
it. You might be smoking some good
over the other day. Let's go, let's go people.
Let's go, let's go. Here we go people.
All. Right, let's.
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Go, let's go, heartless Outlaw denied his young sage.
I'm going back into town. I feel lucky.
Serve me another hand. You know what?
Serve. Me another hand.
You see somebody. That looks set up time, like
they know what we did. Champagne's missing, I heard.
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See, you only come up here when you need some farts.
I see it. Champagne is Joker.
Look, Champagne's a big girl, and they always send us some
shit. Yeah, it ain't no different.
Madame Gloria. Yes.
I'm a healthy gentleman. She knows something.
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Nobody lies so dirty motherfucker all.
Right. You're requesting me, cowboy?
Who's this? I'm his wife.
Who fucking you? His wife?
I'm his girlfriend. What's she talking about?
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Titan to the spare. The Nutella tale of today's Wild
West. Love and women can cause ruckus
in a land of heartless outliers.I, I I.
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That's that, that's that's that's that trailer what you
think? Oh, I love it.
I love it because it's it's likepretty this way.
It still it still speaks to the time.
It still speaks to cowboy and you're like you said, it is it's
updated a more updated version. Think about I look at like this.
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I look at like spaghetti westerns because it has a
gritty, tight look to it that makes it called classy.
So shoot and plus the story is good and the action is good.
Hey see see people y'all don't end up making me had to do the
another live reaction show. I see that now on live on this
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because I did that for ballets yeah ballets where where we
watch the whole movement live onit.
But but for you though. But like I said.
We should do that. I'm y'all.
To do that. Oh OK, I'm glad to set that up.
So but but you went but knowing the challenges like you say,
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because you couldn't make it a full time piece.
Like how do you pick? What were the most important
things you wanted to emphasize within the movie?
Well, my main thing would be thestory, and that's what we did.
The story is scared. I think it's a good story, you
know, It's about the girls We got the guys we got shooting, we
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got killing. It all comes together.
We got the whorehouse. It's a good thing.
It's awesome. Yeah, because it to me it's like
I said, representation because like I said, which we don't see
a lot of black Westerns, you know, or even anything to do
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with Black Country. You've heard I'm coming from.
Why we don't see more representation of that?
Like you said, I think we're about to see a whole bunch of
everybody got to do the boots onthe ground.
Yeah, Now you got the trail ride.
It's it's getting out there. It's going to be a lot more.
Everybody's coming out. You don't have to really dress
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up to be a, you know, just get some cowboy boots and a ripped
up shirts, some ripped up shortsand let's go.
Yeah, that what's funny is they I hate that I ain't going to be
able to go because I'm going to be at work, but they doing the
boots on the ground party on Foster Street downtown Durham.
I'm mad as hell. God, Dad wouldn't learn that
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live dance, but so I. Said Did I have that young lady
coming, the 6K girl? I don't know.
I've been trying to find the flybecause it was a lady that at my
job that she drives a Coca-Cola truck and she told us about it.
What happened? I was like, oh, so she I like, I
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like. You gonna have the fan, girl.
You gonna have the fan. You got to have the fan.
Ain't right. You ain't got the fan now.
With them fans at And then the crazy thing is 803 Fresh is from
Columbia SC, so he is from here.Something like OK, that's even
that's even doper because there's somebody from here that
is, you know, they got that songand pretty dope.
(28:32):
So for you, because I know like for example, when I used to pick
the girls I used to work with. What do you look for in your
lead actor and actress? I mean, in general, you're
looking for somebody that fits the character will be the
character or you know, but make people believe that they're the
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character. I love it when they're on time.
I love when they're in the lines.
I love it when you know, I'll even I sometimes I call them the
character name staying if you got to.
So I'm always looking for somebody who's a team player.
We do deal with a lot of different personalities on set.
So you got to understand that too, 'cause you got some people,
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that's bougie, you got some people that's hey, I'm, I'm in
my own world and I get it, 'cause sometimes you come on set
and you are another character. You're like, hey, I'm not, I'm
not here really to talk to people because, you know, I want
to stay in character. So it's a lot.
Oh yeah, now smokers, we about to have a real good conversation
(29:37):
people, because if you've been listening to the podcast and I
always talk about, especially onthe adult film inside, because
I, I do talk to a lot of adult film people because I was in the
business myself. We talk about telling our story
and the one thing that I love about the the black independent
(29:58):
cinema community, we tell our stories the way that we see
these stories. I don't see that in adult film.
Please speak, Felicia, to telling the story that as we see
it, because this is a black western.
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Let's make this clear, people. Black Western.
Not a western that is black thathas a white man's story to it.
Black Western. I'm going to shut up.
I mean, all I can say is basically me.
Isaac, help me wrote this. You know, it's everybody.
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Yeah. I'm trying to think, is
everybody black in the movie? Yeah, everybody's black in the
movie. So it's a story written by a
black woman and a black male, and it's about these three
brothers. The younger brother goes off
into the town to play cards. He loses his diamond.
They kill him. But really, the girl kills.
I'm. I'm telling too much.
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Well, I guess I could say that when the girl kills him and then
you know what, she does it for her man because she's like, I'm
killing about it for my man, which in real life some females
are like that, let's be honest. So basically so he she actually
is leaving and she gets mad at him.
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The the two brothers go looking for their little brother and
they they catch her. They think she has something to
do with something. So they tie her up and they take
her to the brothel. So in the meanwhile, the guy, he
is alerted that, you know, the young lady is missing.
Her name was Champagne. That's what I call it Champagne.
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I made it. I love the name.
Do you like Champagne's missing?I can't find my sister.
And so dudes like, I don't know.And he wasn't even looking for
the girl to be honest. He just like was she gone, you
know, So he done started messingwith another chick.
Mind you, he got the diamond. So the, the, the, the, it's a
fake sex scene. Everybody's like, what the hell?
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But you know, you don't have real sex scenes in my movies
anyway. So he goes to sleep.
He goes to sleep and guess what?You know, females, you rob him.
So she steals the diamond. So he she go, he goes to he
wakes up like, where the hell ismy diamond?
And that that bitch Ryan was here.
You know what the fuck? So then he goes to the church.
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I want you give away too much ofthe movie.
No, you gotta go see the shit. No, no, you're not getting it.
No, no, you're not going to. Do that, but I was answering
the. Question Outlaws, because I'm
actually going to watch the motherfucker right after I get
off of here with her. But you should have watched it
before you got on here. So you could have talked to me
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and kind of and I could have answered your questions.
That's what you should have did.But when I was going back to
your questions, like, you know, a black story written by black
people, you know, not a white story, but you know, it's it's
fantasy. It is fiction.
It is something that I did make up.
You know, it does show sister bond in the movie because we
have like a group of black girls.
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They don't, they don't like champagne or her sister, you
know, but you know, 'cause they did something.
So we, we sort of indirectly saywhat they did, you know, and
she's like, yeah, I need you to have my side, my sister.
And they don't give a damn. They're like, OK, well, oh shit,
he got a diamond. So that, you know, they're more
like, let's go and the diamond. And in the process of finding
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this diamond, you know, maybe we'll find your sister, which we
don't care for. So, but it does show sisterhood
in that way. It does have the, you know, the
lion cheating 'cause I could just said the guy, he is with
this woman and then she goes, she gets kidnapped and he's with
the next woman just like that. And then he ends up meeting
another woman, you know, and then you know, then you have the
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brotho and you have, I do want to mention the character Old
Dirty Motherfucker. So we got a character named Old
Dirty Motherfucker, and I'm telling you that's what makes it
a car, because it's funny to me.And I don't know if it's because
I know the characters are wet, but it's like what?
What's my name? My name is third old.
We got A and we have a lot of small work, like what is it
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small phrases throughout this movie That's funny.
So like one of them is he don't want no pussy from you.
No, no, he don't want no pussy from me.
I don't know what he wants from you, And it's a lot of little
dumb shit like that. They're just fucking funny.
It's it's funny as hell. Like, you know, it's like what?
Yeah, because sometimes the bestcomedy is so like.
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Yeah. And so.
Go ahead, go ahead. I'm sorry.
But I was gonna say, but the olddirty motherfucker guy, so he,
he's played by Jermaine Jackson,which did a awesome job playing
his character. So he has long dreads, but you
know, it's a wig, 'cause you know, you know, and we gave him
rotten teeth. So he's just like, I got my
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bitches. I got all the bitches out of it
is it's not hilarious to me. And then when he stands up, he's
short. So it's like his fucking hair is
almost longer than him and he's like, yeah, I'm happy I got all
my bitch. Now if you don't like the word
bitch, then don't watch this movie 'cause they say bitch like
almost like they say *** So it'sbitch, bitch, bitch.
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These bitches is coming. The bitches is here.
Fuck, damn bitches. It it, it's funny to me.
It's a comedy. It's a Western comedy slash
action. It could have probably a little
bit more action than I, you know, But you know, we have some
shootouts or whatever, but I don't know.
I like it. I like it for what it is.
I think it's dope. We did that.
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I hear what nobody say. We did that.
Yeah, because now I may I may answer this though baddest
conversation on another show that we in the era of the woman.
And when I think about when I think about men, the top movies,
so forth, a lot of them has the woman lead.
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Literally she is the protagonistin these stories or what have
you. What do you constitute is to
change in that? From where was the man that he
could be the savior to now it's women because it's it's like
even when I look on the black cinema side, it's like, I'll be
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honest with you, the best movieswhen the when the one way is
about the woman. I ain't gonna lie, but.
But I mean, but that's but that's what if you look at Toby,
you do have everybody watching, but majority of the people
watching Toby is women. So women like my movies arcaded
towards African and black and black Latino 18 to 34, like you
get everybody else in the middleof it.
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And that's why I said even some of my films, I understand some
people watching it and be like, what the fuck?
Like No New Friends is about a group of girls.
They going out, you know, yes, she's sleeping with the dude,
she killed a dude and they do this and do that.
But it's female oriented becauseyou have more females watching
these movies. So dudes are watching too.
So you know, knock knock dudes. But you most of your majority of
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your to be audience is women. So you gotta give them what they
want. They want to see, no offense.
They want to see us crying and sad and, you know, taking over
and somebody get revenge. I got a movie about and I say
which one it is, but I got a movie up, you know, a movie
about where the white girl ends up killing the black woman.
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I'm telling you, people are gonna hate me when this movie
comes out because that's the type of crowd that Tubi has.
They're gonna hate me. They're gonna be like how you
let the white woman win. But I'm making it where it says,
you know, 'cause what it is, it's, it's one of those.
You see getting the best type movies where you do opposite of
what they expect the movie to end, right?
(37:53):
Yeah, you can't care what peoplesay 'cause they're gonna hate
the movie. We can make this the best movie
ever. We had the best graphics.
The best. I had a movie called Boyfriend
Killers too, which is awesome. That's that.
That might be our top movie right now.
Boyfriend Killers. It's not out yet, Bob.
Boyfriend Killers. Is that the 1 Ford in it Anyway,
I got a whole bunch of I got a whole bunch of fire coming y'all
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just stay tuned. But but going back to what she
was saying to be to be is mostlyfemales.
You do got dudes. You do got that on this.
So it you got St. *** You got all kind of stuff on this.
So it's everything. But I know my niche is 18 to 34
females. Dudes do watch it.
I get it when a dude be like, yo, I don't like that shit.
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No New Friends is about about a group of girls that go on a trip
together. What *** want to sit there and
watch that? But they would watch it because
we got some pretty girls. There is a storyline going on,
you know, that they stabbed and killing each other in the
process. So they would watch that for
that. But I mean, it's a girl chick
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movie. So if yeah.
The top female actors on TV, thethe reason why they remember
because they they we remember from the gangster shit a lot of
times or. The correct, correct.
And they were stripping and they, they were showing their
ass and, and, and we can get into that on this too.
Like, like, and I'll call a namelike, you know, crystal and doll
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and Makeba like they, there's a bunch of them, you know, and
they, they, you know, they started out bad girls and they
were robbing people. But they look good.
They look good. They, they, they still look
good. They're still beautiful.
So it's and people like that gangster shit, and I do get that
people. You can do a gangster movie.
I got gangster strips. I can sit here like to you, I
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got action films. I got all kind of stuff.
My thing is just we're getting to that point where it's my my
goal is, and I'll say it here. You know, I'm trying to do A to
be original and I need y'all listen to this to to put a
prayer in the air for me. We by this time next year, we
need to have us A to be original.
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And if I gotta slow down to do that, if I gotta cast certain
people to do that, if we gotta do that, we gotta do that.
If I gotta get investors, whatever we gotta do to get me A
to be original, let's do it. OK, Yeah, because I'm glad.
I'm sorry, not. Because see, that's the other
part of this business. See, I love this lady because,
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and I also love that I don't really have like like like what
I'm going to hit because 9 out of 10 I know that people like
her is going to hit certain things because I like get to the
crux of shit, let's talk about distribution, shall we?
Because. Oh shit.
Yeah, because on my show we talkabout distribution when it comes
(40:46):
to the adult film side, what we got to go through to make the
movie with the content I have talked to kind of I think I
mentioned it to you before, I talked to two other, you know,
two big people or what have you.And where you for you what is
the process of distribution? OK, number one, I'm not a
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distributor, so I'm a producer slash director slash writer.
I have different distribution companies that I go through.
So like I have been with Maverick.
I did start with Maverick. You know, I got maybe good,
maybe 18 films with them. I don't know.
It's it's a lot. So Maverick, Silverline, Lions
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heart, film hub, film plug, likethe western, the western is the
first movie that I actually put out myself and that's what film
hub so like. And I love film hub because I
just see my numbers. So like we just put this film,
we just put this Western out April 1st.
As of today, I've I've already made $1000 almost.
I'm just saying. And I just put a movie out to me
(41:55):
that's good. It might not be good to other
people, but like with everybody else, I can't even see.
No, because you gotta think about it, OK, speaking from the
point of, like I said on the other side of things, boring
shit, That's damn, that's very damn good.
Because that because if you made1000 also you got to think about
(42:20):
the people that did buy their sin see, because I mean, if it's
sold, it means it's getting seenand like you said, you weren't
on their lawn. So that means I look at
rapidness of how it moves, you know, period.
So with with y'all like is the requirements of how the content
had to be edited and so forth and stuff of that nature, you
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know, period. Because.
I mean, it is. OK, go.
Ahead now I'm saying it is they they but they tell you that they
tell you what they're looking for and they tell you what you
know what what they need. And that's why I said certain
things can't go with certain people.
But the you know, like, like I just told you my movie boyfriend
killers. It's at 63 minutes.
(43:05):
So it's like a lot of them don'twant to take a movie that short
63 minutes. I'll tell you when you watch
that movie, it goes, it's so good.
It goes by like it's like, Dang,that's it.
So it's like, hey, you know, we can do more if you put more into
it. But my thing is sometimes when
you put more into the movie, it changes it and then what changes
(43:25):
it or drags it out, which I've seen a lot of movies onto the
they'll have a 5 minute entranceof nothing.
And it's like after 5 minutes I'm turning your movie off that
shit. Don't catch me.
I'm just being honest. And then, you know, just they
have a party dancing for five whole minutes, 5 minutes of
dancing at a party, unless it's like a, the lead is like you
said lead is popular or something there maybe.
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But you'd be like, OK, I just listened to two whole songs and
we're still looking at this shit.
And it's like y'all scratching the movie to make it longer,
which I get, but it's, it's you could, I mean, y'all can add
another story part to this. There's no other story 'cause
that's what people want to see. They want to see a story.
They don't want to see a music video.
If you're gonna do that, then everybody will put a music video
(44:09):
in the middle of the movie. But I have now, if you watch
from movie sugar babies, we do have it where they're in the
club and old girl sings a song and towards the end of the song
in the jazz club, the the the girls with the guns come in.
So it it it goes in that way. But everybody really, sometimes
(44:30):
people don't want. And also Cherry Bomb did that
too. We had when she was a music
vixen. So we had her on a set with, you
know, a music set. So it does show a whole one
whole song, not 2 songs, not 3 songs.
But it's like OK, you're on a set with Miss Sky Cherry Ball.
Oh OK cool. Next.
(44:50):
So I'm gonna. Tell you what's not, I'm gonna
tell you what I find funny rightnow.
Smokers, I want you to wish. Yeah, the whole thing.
She just said they didn't want to take a 68 minute video.
Think about it for me, they won't link where it link with
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quality. I love that.
I love that because the reason why, because they that's one
thing that my business lost thaty'all kept.
They is a standard that they want.
They're going to hit. They're going to put out there
as a look that they want and it makes.
(45:35):
The the. The people like you have to work
with that and you know, I'm coming from because like how
many times you had to resend something?
What? Do you mean reset?
Like for example, like you send them like I guess the final cut
edit and then they tell you where, wait a second, we need,
(45:55):
we need you to take this out forus to put this on this platform
and so forth, so forth, so forth.
I mean, that might only happen like one time, maybe, maybe
once, 'cause I'm not, you know, I'm not turning no garbage.
I mean, yeah, only one time. But I've had, I've heard that
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some other people never got approved.
I've heard people submitting andit never went through this with
mine. You know, I think maybe with
Film Hub, they were just like you need to.
I actually the young lady in my movie, she died.
So I had like a slideshow in thebeginning of the movie.
Yeah. You know, remember her, I had
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one of the the Ashley Lyons she did, she was singing and they
made me take the slideshow out. So when you when you turn on the
the western, it'll say this movie is dedicated real quick.
But it was actually a whole slideshow dedicated to her
before the movie started. But they made me take it off.
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But I'm yeah, I didn't really not never had no really issues
with the editing and like once, I mean maybe once or twice, but
now I like no, no, no, no, 'cause you know, your movie
sound like garbage and you smitten the garbage.
You know that shit sound like garbage.
And if you know your side, if you know your, your, your screen
look bad. If you know, you know your movie
(47:18):
dark, you know, shits missing. And it's I I know it.
I'm not gonna sit and make it seem like I'm perfect.
There are movies where ever likeeven like the Western is a it's
like, I wish we could have did this better.
But again, we filmed that three years ago.
So now I'm at the point now it'slike it's something not right.
What can we do to fix it? And you need actors that
understand that like they're notjust y'all want to be in a good
(47:41):
movie. Y'all want this movie to hit
these platforms. And it might have you might have
did thought you did a wonderful job ever when we filmed with
you, When now it looks hey, you,you know, you're messing up or
hey, the lights not right or hey, this let's get y'all back
and let's fix it. So that's what you want.
You want actors that understand that not Oh, well, you know, I
(48:04):
did my thing and I'm I'm just gonna do this and be done with
it. So no, you're not in it for this
because film is art and you wantto put out the best you can.
So like I've learned from, you know, from starting.
And I think even the having meetings and rehearsals are very
important. And then even like you said
earlier, getting to know people,those these meetings are very
(48:26):
important because two minds are better than 1/3 minds is better
than two. So us having a meeting and
discussing something you might catch something I didn't catch
or you, you know, like the screening I'm having tomorrow.
We have a screening and for the cleanup tomorrow at 5:00 at
center to mod Arctic 2. It's free.
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And I'm, I want feedback, you know, do y'all feel we should
put this movie out? Do y'all feel we should add on?
I, I actually wrote it as a series.
So it's are we gonna should we just put it out as a series or
should we put it out as a movie?You know, it's different.
It's it's actually a real it's based on true life story is
something different and something I haven't seen out
(49:07):
yet. So in you know, so it's
everything we do is sort of different.
So I get it. If people don't like what we put
out, I get it. You don't have to like what I
put out. I like what I put out.
No, man, that's all that matters.
I'm actually do the plat OK likefor example I'm just use an
example. Is it harder to get on Peacock
(49:31):
Netflix than it is Tubi and doesit matter?
Yeah, Tubi, Anybody can get on Tubi.
Everybody in their mind, the laws, you can hear it and see
it. I've seen them on Tubi.
Peacock is sort of different. Like I said, I'm on Peacock
through Mavericks. I don't know how that goes with
that. Netflix is totally different.
You got to go out and get you anagent.
(49:53):
It is it's a lot. I mean, I haven't got there yet.
Hopefully one day with the graceof God, you know, right now I'm
working on the to be original and then maybe we can start
working towards Netflix. You know I'm taking a still
trying but it's. Only trying to, if I see you get
into it is, Oh my God, I'm gonnabe smiling.
I'm like, I interviewed her, interviewed her, I interviewed
(50:16):
her. I know her not because I,
because I'm starting to see moreblack cinema.
Get me to, you know what I'm saying?
And it's a testament to that community because it's like,
it's, I mean, I for what I see is, is like they committed to
(50:39):
not only making good quality stuff, but giving great quality
stories. You know what I'm saying?
That even though it yeah, it could be hood or what have you,
it's still a good story for you to follow.
And you're one of the ones that do that.
And and and shouts out to you, Mama, for real.
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Of course, I mean like, but that's why I said you got to be
you got to be different. Even like you said with the
Western if it comes to you. Last night a movie came to me
and it was about I was looking at the jet beauties and I was
like, we should do a movie aboutthese females.
I can't use jet because you know, that's copy written or
whatever. But you know, I have a magazine
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called Gichi wine. It could be Gichi Wine or a
whole another magazine and we can have how these black women
are fighting each other to be the beauty of the week.
And it don't have to be a horror'cause I think you know
everybody. You know, sometimes you want to
see, you know, beautiful black women fighting over who wants to
be the next week of the week. So I don't know that came to me
is something to write about as well.
(51:48):
It could. Be a comedy documentary.
Yeah, I hear that. Yeah, he would say that.
Could be a comedy, a fake. No, no, no, no documentary is
real. We try to do something sake, we
wanna do a fake. We wanted to be fake.
But I like what you're saying, 'cause then it could be them
telling the story. You could have the girl
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interviewing why they should be beauty of the of the week and
people who don't make it and howthey mad, you know, stalking
people because they can't be thebeauty of the weekend.
It's like you're not cute enough, baby.
You're not cute enough to be on our cover.
You're not pretty enough. Yeah, like it could be funny.
It could be like Anchorman instead of doing like them
(52:30):
working at. But that's how I came to me.
Instead of them working at A at a news reporter, it's a magazine
company and they're like lookingfor the next beauty of the jet.
I really want to say jet so bad 'cause that's so dope.
But then it can be, and it can be sisters.
It can be beautiful black women and two pieces fighting who is
going to be the jet booty of theweek.
(52:52):
And then, you know that one girlthat has that dream.
My dream, my dream on this earthis to be the Jet Beauty of the
week. And I'm gonna do whatever it
takes to be the Jet Beauty of the week, yeah.
No seriously, that was the thingwas the JetBlue of the week.
See y'all kids don't understand Jet magazine when your mom and
(53:15):
daddy used to get in the mail, it was small.
About right there in the middle of the Jet Beauty of the week.
I never forget that right beforethey stopped Jet the wrestler
Trina far too. She was the actual Jet Beauty of
the week. That was a fade, yeah.
You what? What?
What? What?
What? What?
What? What?
(53:36):
Rapper who? The the wrestler she she she the
wrestler. OK, she known as God, Dang it.
Her real name is Trinity 52. But Naomi, Naomi, she was she
was it was a couple of famous ladies that was Jake, dude of
(53:57):
the week, Jane Kennedy shoot. It was a bunch of men.
I used to collect them. I ain't all right.
I used to collect Jack. You know, Jack that would have
shit. So but no, that would be a hot
dog. Actually, that would be hot
because even to the point when Ifirst got to the adult film
(54:19):
business, pictures was the thingbecause you had like the
different magazines. It shoot the different websites
where it was just pictures. So yeah, no that you know
(54:40):
something I like your way of thinking any kind of movies.
I like you. I mean, it's, it's, we try, you
know? Oh my God, so so people, you
know, I heard this lady yuckers.She she's in the car, she's
driving, she's always in the MO move because she is a business
(55:03):
lady. So with that being said, can you
tell everybody where they can find your movies, where they can
find you? Everything you need to know
about Gichi One Films? Well, OK, so basically again,
I'm Felicia. On Facebook.
I'm Felicia Gichi One Rivers like me follow me.
(55:27):
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last name is Rivers like the river outside but reverse RIVRSI
do have my Facebook page which Iwould love y'all to follow.
(55:51):
Right now we're at 8 million. It wasn't 49 million but you
know, fangirl cover soda took that, you know, but be coming
back, you know. So it's Geechee one films again,
GEECH EE Space ONE films FILMS and that's on Facebook.
Like follow share again. You can subscribe to that as
(56:14):
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really like that. But you know I still got the
Instagram. I think I still I've been on 20
(56:34):
years. So if you're on there then thank
you. And Tiktok, I don't be on there
either, but I think I do have these pages set up.
I don't be on there. I'm more of a Facebook old
fashioned type girl. I do need someone to update my
website, itisgucci1.com. It is outdated.
It needs to be updated. But so then you know that is
through the website. Those are my Facebook pages, my
(56:56):
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Gucci One Thumbs, PO Box 41114, North Charleston, SC 29423.
You can write a letter, you can send a check.
You can send me some money. Don't send me a bill, but yeah.
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(57:20):
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(58:02):
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And what did you smoke over today?
Because I always try to teach our lesson because it's called
entertainment. What did you learn?
Well, you learned that whether it's the adult film business or
(58:23):
whether it's just the independent movie business, it's
kind of the same as far as when it comes to the bones you make
the content, you have distributed content, The
difference and what I love aboutbuildings that they live to have
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is lost, which hopefully we'll get back at some point.
(58:47):
But the point being is that whenyou have the opportunity to be
in this business is a great timeto tell your story, our story,
to present it and put it on platforms for people to see the
reason why because the we are the new books, we're the new
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mythologies or what have you. And we also laid the foundations
for the future with what is black culture and so forth.
Through these stories, it one allows people to feel it's OK to
be gay. It's OK to go see a therapy sees
(59:29):
it it it touches people's emotions so that they can deal
with certain traumas. Because we do see some of these
movies that talk about insects in the black community that you
never hear about and crime and so forth.
That's a lot of that. That mother, that mother.
May I one and two. Oh my God.
Yes, yes, see, and like I said before also it speaks to and and
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I always say this, no matter what, the most scarier thing to
the American, to America is a woman, special black woman who
is sexually true, emotionally free and and knows herself.
And the one thing that these movies actually show is that a
lot of these females, it shows strength.
(01:00:23):
See. That why I say at the end of the
day, I keep telling everybody y'all don't want to admit this.
Y'all want women to be submissive but y'all forgot the
most important part when it comes to the lifestyle.
I mean the BDSM submissives havethe most power because it takes
more power to submit than to dominate.
Think about that. That's why y'all love these
(01:00:45):
movies. It doesn't believe.
But the point being is understand that what we do is a
business, how we move into business.
It's just a business that we love.
We get the opportunity to createsomething that will stand the
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test of time. And that's the ultimate point of
getting in this business. No matter whether his point or
whether his movies, whether his music is to be timeless when you
want to be remembered, I believeMiss Rivers will be.
So with that being said, you know how we end these things all
day, every day. Life is a learning experience.
(01:01:29):
What's the point of the experience if you haven't
learned anything? Smoke this over.
Say goodbye to him, Miss Rivers.Y'all have a wonderful,
wonderful day. Check me out Get you one bye.
Check out stand ground. Check out Hollis Allah.
Check out treasure box check outHave you see my man?
Check out have you What is it? I got 23 movies on tube.
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You check them all out. Put my name in Felicia Rivers.
I don't know if it's it's it's, I don't know what it is, but.
I know it's it's it's it's theseheadphones that I got, OK.
I can hear you now. Let.
Me see this better, let me see this much better baby.
Yes, that's way back. Yeah, OK, yeah, because I had
the headphones, I took the headphones out so, so, so we can
make this good and everything. So, but how you doing today?
(00:23):
Because that's where it's the last time I caught your butt in
the car. I'm always in this car.
I was sitting there just thinking about that.
I said wait a second. The last time you got you on the
car, I'm. Always in this.
Car. Oh, but.
But see. But see, now that means that
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you're a busy woman. You stay busy all the damn time.
That's what it is. I get it.
Of course. Oh my God, and how have you
been? We haven't talked in a actually
a year. Actually last time I it was
around this time last year. I think it's.
(01:05):
OK, OK, well, we, we doing, we're doing a revisit with Miss
Gucci, right? Yay.
Oh. Yes, Oh yes, 'cause baby girl,
it was funny, 'cause I remember you talked about the Outlaw
movie right now. Yeah, and it just came out April
1st. It's on to Be Heartless.
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Outlaws is on to be as of April 1st.
It's my first western. It's a little different y'all,
but I still want all y'all to check it out please.
Are we going to talk about the see, this is what I want to talk
about because see smokers, I'm going to tell you what I find
funny right now. There's some people that I like
to say that they they are Negro domicists, especially black.
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Because it's funny how she told me about this, this movie, funny
how she dropped this movie and what's the number one dance in
the world? Boots on the God damn ground.
I was like, people going to watch the fuck out of this
movie. Well, see, what I think is
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that's also let you know I'm ahead of my time because, you
know, we shot this like 2 1/2 years ago.
So it's I'm ahead of my time. And, you know, Beyoncé got her
country album out. So yeah.
Yeah, that is crazy as shit. It I'll ask you question.
We right before you about to drop the moves right.
Did you see that thing like well, damn, did I not did how
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did I see that country and cowboy and black cowboy was
going to become a theme by the time I dropped this movie.
Hello. I think she we're out for a
(02:55):
meeting, ladies and gentlemen. I think she'll be back in a
second. Can you hear me?
I can hear you. Can you hear me?
Yeah, yeah. You just came back.
You just came back. OK, so I did this, we shot this
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about 3 years ago, right? So I wasn't there.
I don't know. I wasn't thinking Beyoncé, the
car, you know, I wasn't thinkingthat and I wasn't thinking, am I
equity? No, no, you good.
You. Good.
Yeah, it has me echoing hold. On wait, wait, wait a second,
(03:41):
let me. See last talk.
Because you got two, you ain't two.
Want to call it? Hold on, let me.
Kick me out of one of. Them OK, yeah, you better now
can. You hear me?
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
OK. So, yeah, so I was not taking
that. We did this like 3 years ago.
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We gotta, you know, it was just something different I wanted to
try. So, you know, that's God right
there, I think. I'm saying you God no play about
you girl. How much?
Is this how much? Is it you God, no play about you
because it was just funny because it was like when I saw
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the the the advertisement, I said, well damn if damn her
timer went on point for everything that was going on and
also fitting for what's going onbecause like lots of that I talk
about because, you know, smokers.
I try to expand my palette away from the adult film industry and
(04:43):
I like talking to people that are creators on two week because
they do what we do, but not to the full extent.
So it's kind of same thought process.
And one of the things I was talking about with my peers was
us telling our story and the story, our eyes through our
community and so forth, you know, period.
(05:04):
And. You're perfect with this because
that's what many of your storiesare about.
Even with this, the the cowboy, you know what I'm saying?
We don't see a lot of black cowboy representations in
Hollywood. Let's keep one.
You don't. Hello, should be back again.
(05:34):
Oh no. Hello.
I'm here. I don't know what this thing is.
(05:57):
Not because you're probably driving and you hitting spots
and just going in and out the Internet, that's all.
Clicking again, you're not gonnahear me for a second, just a
second because when I when I onesecond, I'm about to it's so I
might have two of me again in a second.
Hold on. OK, one second.
I just want to because I'm trying to put the phone down so
(06:19):
I wouldn't touch phone so that might help.
Enter studio your end. OK got it.
OK I'm putting the phone down sotake off my other echo I got.
It actually I'm going to switch to the new one.
Let's. See here Studio Alright, get
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better. Can you hear?
Me, yeah. So like I was saying when the
conversation I was having with my peers in my genre, with your
drama does very well and people,she actually won the award for
it. But we'll get to that in a
second. We'll get to that in a second,
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you know. Oh, wait a second.
Ain't gonna. It's been 7 minutes.
I haven't even spoke to my smokers.
Hold on. Give me one second.
Hello, smokers. How you doing?
It's time to smoke this over. And welcome to the Smokers
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this gorgeous lady. She's awarded winning director
and producer black-owned and people I've seen the pictures.
(08:31):
She gorgeous. She's fine.
She's fine. She's fine as the accuracy that
she got they booked. I ain't even gonna lie.
You know pretty and even saw that she even participated in
one of the movies. I'm talking about the Geechee
one herself, Felicia Ribbon. They don't know to the smokers.
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I love smokers so so before I gointo become a movie more, how do
you feel to win an award and hold on?
I got to say it right, because at best film at the Beautiful
Soul Film Festival. Let's go, let's go.
(09:14):
We got award. I, I want, I didn't want that.
Like where did you even get thatfrom?
I won that a long time ago. Well, shoot, we didn't talk
about it the last time I'm on. Your page Oh, OK, gotcha 'cause
I'm like, I'm like, where you where you finding you find some
old stuff? OK, but I'm I appreciate it
(09:36):
winning that award we won. I think that might have been
best short film for the movie Justice Justin.
Excuse me, that's on Amazon Prime, but I've done so much
movies since that movie, you know?
What I'm saying, so I may break at that time, was it not because
even with me with me when I retired from the adult film
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industry, me being nominated forABN for the podcast kind of was
a confirmation that I was on theright path.
How much was this a confirmationthat you you you on your way?
Of course, I'm a jump in the question, are you going to the
(10:19):
Black Podcast Festival this weekend in Atlanta?
No, I wish. I don't even know about it, but
thank you because I'm going to look into that to go next year.
OK, I heard about it. I was like, should I go to
Atlanta? I don't know, but I was thinking
about it and I meant to ask you that question, but.
(10:45):
Go ahead. No, I'm listening.
Go ahead. I'm.
Sorry, yeah, no, no. But like I said, how much did at
the time when you wanted was theconfirmation that you are
heading in the right direction, what you're doing and built your
company? Yeah, I thought it was awesome
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because, you know, we're competing against a lot of
people. So and we won that one and you
know, and then also it's like wewe wondered why we was in
Atlanta and we actually had likemaybe about 10-15 people that
was from Atlanta but from Charles to that mood school.
And so I thought that was prettydope to actually have people
(11:28):
from Charleston come and supportbecause you know, sometimes when
you go out of town, it just be you by yourself.
But then it was like, oh, these people y'all live here?
Yeah, we live here now. But we came here to support you
and watch your film. And so I think that's pretty
dope. So I know a couple times I've
been to Atlanta and maybe at least 6 plus people from
Charleston that has moved to Atlanta would be there to
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support myself. So that's a pretty dope thing.
So it's like, you know, you got a little following when people
do really come out of support. Oh yeah, because especially when
you got it, because when you do these projects, because even
with me, because I supposed to be going to Orlando to a content
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house, but some people don't know what it is.
If you're a day one smoker is when a bunch of time I get
together and they shoot content together and they, you know,
share the content and I plan to do a little expose about it.
And when you do these projects, you put a lot of energy, heart
and soul into it. So you see it when it was, when
you see it's, it's kind of like a weight off your shoulders that
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that they really feeling what I'm doing.
You know what I'm saying? You know, and it also inspires
you to do more. You feel me?
This is people out there waitingto see what you're going to do,
of course. And you been doing it, girl, I'm
like I I swear it's it's like you you be pumping.
(13:02):
I I like bag. So now I got to ask you this
because I guess it might have been old.
I saw that you was an extra 1, Iguess one of the scenes that
everybody would dress up in togas.
OK, so that's old too. Yeah.
So you just looking through the old stuff because I'm about two
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or three weeks ago I was in Atlanta and I just played nurse,
excuse me, Doctor Wang and the husband mistress crew and that
was 2-3 weeks ago. So if y'all go to Toby, there's
three The Husband Mistress on Toby.
One is the Toby original, which is cool.
One is Robert Parker. He put out a movie called The
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Husband's Mistress as well and it came out another Husband's
Mistress that's been out by Raquel Williams.
She's a she writes books, so she's turning her books into
movies. So I am Doctor Wang and the
husband Mistress too. That hasn't came out yet, but
you can go to Toby and watch 1. So yeah, I'm, I'm doing a little
bit of acting and I did that on a Friday.
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So on that Saturday, I actually,me in my, my second coordinator,
her name is Kristen. We actually went to Charlotte
and we filmed as extras on a movie called Ebony Excellence
with Romeo Pearl. And so, so Saturday, Charlotte,
Sunday, Atlanta, we did that. I was like 3 weeks ago.
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Smokers, as you can see, just like in the boy business, in the
movie business, some of us are actors and producers and
directors all together. You know, how do you feel to be
in front of the camera? OK, so I'll be honest with you,
right? I don't, I don't really be in
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front of the camera. So basically, I like, I know the
lines. I know the lines.
Simple, short, awesome. Why did I freeze up?
And it was like, I like, oh God,what is my line?
And it was like kind of embarrassing.
Everybody's looking at me like you don't know your lines.
Because you know, if you ever come on my set, the first thing
I say to you, I guess is I don'tsay hello to you.
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I say, do you know your lines? That's what everybody's saying.
So I made a post about that too.And they be like, I don't even
ask you how you doing? Hello.
I'll be like, hey, you know yourlines, you know your lines.
And then when I got on this set and I know my lines, that's what
I know my line. I know the lines now I can read
you the lines, right? I can tell you a lot.
I, I, I'll do it if you want me to.
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But I, I know my line. So it's like she's like action
and I'm like, damn, what's the line?
And then and it, it was like 5 takes of me acting like, Oh my
God, like I, I forgot what my line was.
It was horrible, but I know my line.
See, it's see, people realize it's harder to be in front of
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that camera sometimes than to bebehind it.
But I finally got it I guess after this 5th take trip so.
But even I finally got it. But even the important to be to
be asked to be in front of the camera.
You feel what I'm saying. It's like, how does it feel to
to stretch or at the lace, even though it may not be much, it
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might be as an extra, you know what I'm saying?
He's still you being in front ofthe camera, you feel me.
And it kind of sometimes gives you an appreciation for being
behind the camera also. You feel what I'm saying?
Correct. Well, I felt embarrassed because
then it's like, you know, and then you know, because I'm
really hard on my actress. Anybody want to act with me?
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If you want to be a lead, I do put a lot into you and you got
to put a lot into us. You're not you don't just show
up and be like, what's my lie? Because I don't like that.
So for me to do the same thing, it was, it did feel kind of, you
know, embarrassing. It's like, because everybody's
looking at you like, are you gonna do shit or not?
(16:57):
No, I thought you were thinking in your mind was like, I just
fussed out Jeremy because he couldn't get his lines right and
I'm over here messing up. And I know the lies.
I can tell you the lies I love, Miss Clark.
I can tell you the damn lies. The lies ain't like, it was
just, I guess me and I, I was dehydrated a little bit, so
maybe I was thirsty. I don't know.
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That's what I told her. I was like, you know, I need a
little stuffed water. And then he was just like, Oh
my. God see now feeling, I realized.
Evening, but that we talk about this.
You know, when I talk to the adult film stars, not every day
on set is going to be a breeze. Because it it, it because we
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depending on the shoot, you may have lines, you may not the
chemistry between you and the talent may not work well, you
know what I'm saying? It's it's the same because
there's chemistry between you, especially if you're the lead
actor, there's chemistry betweenyou and the people that's onset
that you, you know what I'm saying, working with when it
comes to, you know, going back and forth with the lines and
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stuff. So when you as a director, how
do you help your actors gain chemistry?
So where that like where where the those scenes do move flaws
from your end? Well, it depends on what type of
scene it is. So that's what you probably do
during rehearsal, during Zooms, doing in person like hey, y'all
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need to meet up. Because if you're supposed to be
best friends, people want to seethat.
People want to feel that, you know, and we can do some people
can do it real good. Just be everybody's friend and
be faking. And then you got some people you
can just tell like y'all don't even look like y'all would hang
with each other. Y'all don't like each other.
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You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, she the killer,
you know I for real. So it's like, 'cause I'm
thinking even with Zoom, Zoom's I, but I don't think you really
get that in in person. You know, even sometimes it's
not even about the rehearsal sometimes just hey, let's get
something to eat, let's hang out, let's get to know each
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other. And, you know, this is your man
in the next movie. This is your best friend.
Like we want people to feel the chemistry between you guys.
So like I said, some actors justget it and then some actors
really, hey, you know, let's go talk, let's hang out.
Let's, you know, you may Yang, you may Yang.
So it just it depends on the person.
But I don't think, I mean, you know, Zoom's OK, but that's why
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I said I think in person rehearsals you really can get
that chemistry. Yeah, because it's because it's
just funny, because with, well, y'all can say the same with
y'all world, because with us we have the content world where the
the talent get together, they feel.
And if you have the mainstream, you know, with the independent,
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I I guess with the independent, y'all just have less of a budget
to work within the majors. But to me I think y'all are more
creative with less than what they are with more.
You feel where I'm coming from because even when I look at the
outlaw, it did Western hands down.
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I haven't even seen the movie yet and I already know that big
fire. You feel, you feel me?
And I'm a Western kind of guy. And for you, it's like speak to
because this ain't just a regular movie where this is this
is a time piece so people can understand this almost the way
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that the way that you describe you feel what I'm coming from
and the way that it look. Speak to what you had to go
through to give it that look, togive it that authenticity when
it comes to cowboy and all that.OK.
So it's it's sort of a modernized Western because a lot
of stuff I couldn't really change.
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So like we have electricity. Yeah.
Now we do have horses. I did, you know, like I said, I
had to pay for horseback riding.So we do have them on the
horses. We do have them on a ranch.
Some of them do look kind of dirty, you know, kind of grungy.
I changed the look of the movie too.
So a lot of people don't understand that.
I wanted to go for like that 1980s type feel of a movie and I
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think we did that. So I know some people, you know,
2025 everybody's looking for that sharp crisp, you know, but
I, I actually went with an effect on the movie so it could
look more crunchier. So it is a great it it it's
totally different. Like it's I, I mean, are you
able to pay? Are you able to play a trail on
here or no? Actually, yes, actually, yeah.
(21:45):
Well, so send me the link, send me the link, send me the link.
I'm kind of listen 'cause it might kick me off.
You can go to YouTube. Where would I find it on your
page? On YouTube, YouTube, YouTube.
(22:05):
Yeah, you put a Heartless Outlaws trailer.
OK, hold on. We're about to go to YouTube
right now. I'm gonna pull it up in a
second. Say, say that.
Hold on. Wait.
I'm sounding so stupid. Hold on.
Let me see it. Heartless outlaws.
(22:26):
Let's go, let's go aha, all right, then we about to do now
before now, before before we go into this.
Like I said, the point still is you made it a cowboy authentic,
even though it's with what you had to work with.
You feel what I'm saying, correct?
So. Correct, because there's some
things I can't change. Yeah.
(22:51):
Continue. I'm sorry, are we talking?
Are we talking? No, no, no.
Go ahead. Speak.
Speak, speak, speak. This week we talking about you,
baby. Tell.
Tell them about the damn movie. Tell them.
No, I was just talking over here, but yeah, I'm agreeing
with you. I'm sorry I'm agreeing with you.
But it's just like certain things we couldn't change.
Oh look, it's. Not like I don't smoke, I.
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Need to certain things we couldn't change but we worked on
it. You might be smoking some good
over the other day. Let's go, let's go people.
Let's go, let's go. Here we go people.
All. Right, let's.
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Go, let's go, heartless Outlaw denied his young sage.
I'm going back into town. I feel lucky.
Serve me another hand. You know what?
Serve. Me another hand.
You see somebody. That looks set up time, like
they know what we did. Champagne's missing, I heard.
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See, you only come up here when you need some farts.
I see it. Champagne is Joker.
Look, Champagne's a big girl, and they always send us some
shit. Yeah, it ain't no different.
Madame Gloria. Yes.
I'm a healthy gentleman. She knows something.
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Nobody lies so dirty motherfucker all.
Right. You're requesting me, cowboy?
Who's this? I'm his wife.
Who fucking you? His wife?
I'm his girlfriend. What's she talking about?
(24:39):
Titan to the spare. The Nutella tale of today's Wild
West. Love and women can cause ruckus
in a land of heartless outliers.I, I I.
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That's that, that's that's that's that trailer what you
think? Oh, I love it.
I love it because it's it's likepretty this way.
It still it still speaks to the time.
It still speaks to cowboy and you're like you said, it is it's
updated a more updated version. Think about I look at like this.
(25:25):
I look at like spaghetti westerns because it has a
gritty, tight look to it that makes it called classy.
So shoot and plus the story is good and the action is good.
Hey see see people y'all don't end up making me had to do the
another live reaction show. I see that now on live on this
(25:49):
because I did that for ballets yeah ballets where where we
watch the whole movement live onit.
But but for you though. But like I said.
We should do that. I'm y'all.
To do that. Oh OK, I'm glad to set that up.
So but but you went but knowing the challenges like you say,
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because you couldn't make it a full time piece.
Like how do you pick? What were the most important
things you wanted to emphasize within the movie?
Well, my main thing would be thestory, and that's what we did.
The story is scared. I think it's a good story, you
know, It's about the girls We got the guys we got shooting, we
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got killing. It all comes together.
We got the whorehouse. It's a good thing.
It's awesome. Yeah, because it to me it's like
I said, representation because like I said, which we don't see
a lot of black Westerns, you know, or even anything to do
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with Black Country. You've heard I'm coming from.
Why we don't see more representation of that?
Like you said, I think we're about to see a whole bunch of
everybody got to do the boots onthe ground.
Yeah, Now you got the trail ride.
It's it's getting out there. It's going to be a lot more.
Everybody's coming out. You don't have to really dress
(27:23):
up to be a, you know, just get some cowboy boots and a ripped
up shirts, some ripped up shortsand let's go.
Yeah, that what's funny is they I hate that I ain't going to be
able to go because I'm going to be at work, but they doing the
boots on the ground party on Foster Street downtown Durham.
I'm mad as hell. God, Dad wouldn't learn that
(27:44):
live dance, but so I. Said Did I have that young lady
coming, the 6K girl? I don't know.
I've been trying to find the flybecause it was a lady that at my
job that she drives a Coca-Cola truck and she told us about it.
What happened? I was like, oh, so she I like, I
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like. You gonna have the fan, girl.
You gonna have the fan. You got to have the fan.
Ain't right. You ain't got the fan now.
With them fans at And then the crazy thing is 803 Fresh is from
Columbia SC, so he is from here.Something like OK, that's even
that's even doper because there's somebody from here that
is, you know, they got that songand pretty dope.
(28:32):
So for you, because I know like for example, when I used to pick
the girls I used to work with. What do you look for in your
lead actor and actress? I mean, in general, you're
looking for somebody that fits the character will be the
character or you know, but make people believe that they're the
(28:55):
character. I love it when they're on time.
I love when they're in the lines.
I love it when you know, I'll even I sometimes I call them the
character name staying if you got to.
So I'm always looking for somebody who's a team player.
We do deal with a lot of different personalities on set.
So you got to understand that too, 'cause you got some people,
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that's bougie, you got some people that's hey, I'm, I'm in
my own world and I get it, 'cause sometimes you come on set
and you are another character. You're like, hey, I'm not, I'm
not here really to talk to people because, you know, I want
to stay in character. So it's a lot.
Oh yeah, now smokers, we about to have a real good conversation
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people, because if you've been listening to the podcast and I
always talk about, especially onthe adult film inside, because
I, I do talk to a lot of adult film people because I was in the
business myself. We talk about telling our story
and the one thing that I love about the the black independent
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cinema community, we tell our stories the way that we see
these stories. I don't see that in adult film.
Please speak, Felicia, to telling the story that as we see
it, because this is a black western.
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Let's make this clear, people. Black Western.
Not a western that is black thathas a white man's story to it.
Black Western. I'm going to shut up.
I mean, all I can say is basically me.
Isaac, help me wrote this. You know, it's everybody.
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Yeah. I'm trying to think, is
everybody black in the movie? Yeah, everybody's black in the
movie. So it's a story written by a
black woman and a black male, and it's about these three
brothers. The younger brother goes off
into the town to play cards. He loses his diamond.
They kill him. But really, the girl kills.
I'm. I'm telling too much.
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Well, I guess I could say that when the girl kills him and then
you know what, she does it for her man because she's like, I'm
killing about it for my man, which in real life some females
are like that, let's be honest. So basically so he she actually
is leaving and she gets mad at him.
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The the two brothers go looking for their little brother and
they they catch her. They think she has something to
do with something. So they tie her up and they take
her to the brothel. So in the meanwhile, the guy, he
is alerted that, you know, the young lady is missing.
Her name was Champagne. That's what I call it Champagne.
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I made it. I love the name.
Do you like Champagne's missing?I can't find my sister.
And so dudes like, I don't know.And he wasn't even looking for
the girl to be honest. He just like was she gone, you
know, So he done started messingwith another chick.
Mind you, he got the diamond. So the, the, the, the, it's a
fake sex scene. Everybody's like, what the hell?
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But you know, you don't have real sex scenes in my movies
anyway. So he goes to sleep.
He goes to sleep and guess what?You know, females, you rob him.
So she steals the diamond. So he she go, he goes to he
wakes up like, where the hell ismy diamond?
And that that bitch Ryan was here.
You know what the fuck? So then he goes to the church.
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I want you give away too much ofthe movie.
No, you gotta go see the shit. No, no, you're not getting it.
No, no, you're not going to. Do that, but I was answering
the. Question Outlaws, because I'm
actually going to watch the motherfucker right after I get
off of here with her. But you should have watched it
before you got on here. So you could have talked to me
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and kind of and I could have answered your questions.
That's what you should have did.But when I was going back to
your questions, like, you know, a black story written by black
people, you know, not a white story, but you know, it's it's
fantasy. It is fiction.
It is something that I did make up.
You know, it does show sister bond in the movie because we
have like a group of black girls.
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They don't, they don't like champagne or her sister, you
know, but you know, 'cause they did something.
So we, we sort of indirectly saywhat they did, you know, and
she's like, yeah, I need you to have my side, my sister.
And they don't give a damn. They're like, OK, well, oh shit,
he got a diamond. So that, you know, they're more
like, let's go and the diamond. And in the process of finding
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this diamond, you know, maybe we'll find your sister, which we
don't care for. So, but it does show sisterhood
in that way. It does have the, you know, the
lion cheating 'cause I could just said the guy, he is with
this woman and then she goes, she gets kidnapped and he's with
the next woman just like that. And then he ends up meeting
another woman, you know, and then you know, then you have the
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brotho and you have, I do want to mention the character Old
Dirty Motherfucker. So we got a character named Old
Dirty Motherfucker, and I'm telling you that's what makes it
a car, because it's funny to me.And I don't know if it's because
I know the characters are wet, but it's like what?
What's my name? My name is third old.
We got A and we have a lot of small work, like what is it
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small phrases throughout this movie That's funny.
So like one of them is he don't want no pussy from you.
No, no, he don't want no pussy from me.
I don't know what he wants from you, And it's a lot of little
dumb shit like that. They're just fucking funny.
It's it's funny as hell. Like, you know, it's like what?
Yeah, because sometimes the bestcomedy is so like.
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Yeah. And so.
Go ahead, go ahead. I'm sorry.
But I was gonna say, but the olddirty motherfucker guy, so he,
he's played by Jermaine Jackson,which did a awesome job playing
his character. So he has long dreads, but you
know, it's a wig, 'cause you know, you know, and we gave him
rotten teeth. So he's just like, I got my
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bitches. I got all the bitches out of it
is it's not hilarious to me. And then when he stands up, he's
short. So it's like his fucking hair is
almost longer than him and he's like, yeah, I'm happy I got all
my bitch. Now if you don't like the word
bitch, then don't watch this movie 'cause they say bitch like
almost like they say *** So it'sbitch, bitch, bitch.
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These bitches is coming. The bitches is here.
Fuck, damn bitches. It it, it's funny to me.
It's a comedy. It's a Western comedy slash
action. It could have probably a little
bit more action than I, you know, But you know, we have some
shootouts or whatever, but I don't know.
I like it. I like it for what it is.
I think it's dope. We did that.
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I hear what nobody say. We did that.
Yeah, because now I may I may answer this though baddest
conversation on another show that we in the era of the woman.
And when I think about when I think about men, the top movies,
so forth, a lot of them has the woman lead.
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Literally she is the protagonistin these stories or what have
you. What do you constitute is to
change in that? From where was the man that he
could be the savior to now it's women because it's it's like
even when I look on the black cinema side, it's like, I'll be
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honest with you, the best movieswhen the when the one way is
about the woman. I ain't gonna lie, but.
But I mean, but that's but that's what if you look at Toby,
you do have everybody watching, but majority of the people
watching Toby is women. So women like my movies arcaded
towards African and black and black Latino 18 to 34, like you
get everybody else in the middleof it.
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And that's why I said even some of my films, I understand some
people watching it and be like, what the fuck?
Like No New Friends is about a group of girls.
They going out, you know, yes, she's sleeping with the dude,
she killed a dude and they do this and do that.
But it's female oriented becauseyou have more females watching
these movies. So dudes are watching too.
So you know, knock knock dudes. But you most of your majority of
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your to be audience is women. So you gotta give them what they
want. They want to see, no offense.
They want to see us crying and sad and, you know, taking over
and somebody get revenge. I got a movie about and I say
which one it is, but I got a movie up, you know, a movie
about where the white girl ends up killing the black woman.
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I'm telling you, people are gonna hate me when this movie
comes out because that's the type of crowd that Tubi has.
They're gonna hate me. They're gonna be like how you
let the white woman win. But I'm making it where it says,
you know, 'cause what it is, it's, it's one of those.
You see getting the best type movies where you do opposite of
what they expect the movie to end, right?
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Yeah, you can't care what peoplesay 'cause they're gonna hate
the movie. We can make this the best movie
ever. We had the best graphics.
The best. I had a movie called Boyfriend
Killers too, which is awesome. That's that.
That might be our top movie right now.
Boyfriend Killers. It's not out yet, Bob.
Boyfriend Killers. Is that the 1 Ford in it Anyway,
I got a whole bunch of I got a whole bunch of fire coming y'all
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just stay tuned. But but going back to what she
was saying to be to be is mostlyfemales.
You do got dudes. You do got that on this.
So it you got St. *** You got all kind of stuff on this.
So it's everything. But I know my niche is 18 to 34
females. Dudes do watch it.
I get it when a dude be like, yo, I don't like that shit.
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No New Friends is about about a group of girls that go on a trip
together. What *** want to sit there and
watch that? But they would watch it because
we got some pretty girls. There is a storyline going on,
you know, that they stabbed and killing each other in the
process. So they would watch that for
that. But I mean, it's a girl chick
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movie. So if yeah.
The top female actors on TV, thethe reason why they remember
because they they we remember from the gangster shit a lot of
times or. The correct, correct.
And they were stripping and they, they were showing their
ass and, and, and we can get into that on this too.
Like, like, and I'll call a namelike, you know, crystal and doll
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and Makeba like they, there's a bunch of them, you know, and
they, they, you know, they started out bad girls and they
were robbing people. But they look good.
They look good. They, they, they still look
good. They're still beautiful.
So it's and people like that gangster shit, and I do get that
people. You can do a gangster movie.
I got gangster strips. I can sit here like to you, I
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got action films. I got all kind of stuff.
My thing is just we're getting to that point where it's my my
goal is, and I'll say it here. You know, I'm trying to do A to
be original and I need y'all listen to this to to put a
prayer in the air for me. We by this time next year, we
need to have us A to be original.
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And if I gotta slow down to do that, if I gotta cast certain
people to do that, if we gotta do that, we gotta do that.
If I gotta get investors, whatever we gotta do to get me A
to be original, let's do it. OK, Yeah, because I'm glad.
I'm sorry, not. Because see, that's the other
part of this business. See, I love this lady because,
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and I also love that I don't really have like like like what
I'm going to hit because 9 out of 10 I know that people like
her is going to hit certain things because I like get to the
crux of shit, let's talk about distribution, shall we?
Because. Oh shit.
Yeah, because on my show we talkabout distribution when it comes
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to the adult film side, what we got to go through to make the
movie with the content I have talked to kind of I think I
mentioned it to you before, I talked to two other, you know,
two big people or what have you.And where you for you what is
the process of distribution? OK, number one, I'm not a
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distributor, so I'm a producer slash director slash writer.
I have different distribution companies that I go through.
So like I have been with Maverick.
I did start with Maverick. You know, I got maybe good,
maybe 18 films with them. I don't know.
It's it's a lot. So Maverick, Silverline, Lions
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heart, film hub, film plug, likethe western, the western is the
first movie that I actually put out myself and that's what film
hub so like. And I love film hub because I
just see my numbers. So like we just put this film,
we just put this Western out April 1st.
As of today, I've I've already made $1000 almost.
I'm just saying. And I just put a movie out to me
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that's good. It might not be good to other
people, but like with everybody else, I can't even see.
No, because you gotta think about it, OK, speaking from the
point of, like I said on the other side of things, boring
shit, That's damn, that's very damn good.
Because that because if you made1000 also you got to think about
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the people that did buy their sin see, because I mean, if it's
sold, it means it's getting seenand like you said, you weren't
on their lawn. So that means I look at
rapidness of how it moves, you know, period.
So with with y'all like is the requirements of how the content
had to be edited and so forth and stuff of that nature, you
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know, period. Because.
I mean, it is. OK, go.
Ahead now I'm saying it is they they but they tell you that they
tell you what they're looking for and they tell you what you
know what what they need. And that's why I said certain
things can't go with certain people.
But the you know, like, like I just told you my movie boyfriend
killers. It's at 63 minutes.
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So it's like a lot of them don'twant to take a movie that short
63 minutes. I'll tell you when you watch
that movie, it goes, it's so good.
It goes by like it's like, Dang,that's it.
So it's like, hey, you know, we can do more if you put more into
it. But my thing is sometimes when
you put more into the movie, it changes it and then what changes
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it or drags it out, which I've seen a lot of movies onto the
they'll have a 5 minute entranceof nothing.
And it's like after 5 minutes I'm turning your movie off that
shit. Don't catch me.
I'm just being honest. And then, you know, just they
have a party dancing for five whole minutes, 5 minutes of
dancing at a party, unless it's like a, the lead is like you
said lead is popular or something there maybe.
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But you'd be like, OK, I just listened to two whole songs and
we're still looking at this shit.
And it's like y'all scratching the movie to make it longer,
which I get, but it's, it's you could, I mean, y'all can add
another story part to this. There's no other story 'cause
that's what people want to see. They want to see a story.
They don't want to see a music video.
If you're gonna do that, then everybody will put a music video
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in the middle of the movie. But I have now, if you watch
from movie sugar babies, we do have it where they're in the
club and old girl sings a song and towards the end of the song
in the jazz club, the the the girls with the guns come in.
So it it it goes in that way. But everybody really, sometimes
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people don't want. And also Cherry Bomb did that
too. We had when she was a music
vixen. So we had her on a set with, you
know, a music set. So it does show a whole one
whole song, not 2 songs, not 3 songs.
But it's like OK, you're on a set with Miss Sky Cherry Ball.
Oh OK cool. Next.
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So I'm gonna. Tell you what's not, I'm gonna
tell you what I find funny rightnow.
Smokers, I want you to wish. Yeah, the whole thing.
She just said they didn't want to take a 68 minute video.
Think about it for me, they won't link where it link with
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quality. I love that.
I love that because the reason why, because they that's one
thing that my business lost thaty'all kept.
They is a standard that they want.
They're going to hit. They're going to put out there
as a look that they want and it makes.
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The the. The people like you have to work
with that and you know, I'm coming from because like how
many times you had to resend something?
What? Do you mean reset?
Like for example, like you send them like I guess the final cut
edit and then they tell you where, wait a second, we need,
(45:55):
we need you to take this out forus to put this on this platform
and so forth, so forth, so forth.
I mean, that might only happen like one time, maybe, maybe
once, 'cause I'm not, you know, I'm not turning no garbage.
I mean, yeah, only one time. But I've had, I've heard that
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some other people never got approved.
I've heard people submitting andit never went through this with
mine. You know, I think maybe with
Film Hub, they were just like you need to.
I actually the young lady in my movie, she died.
So I had like a slideshow in thebeginning of the movie.
Yeah. You know, remember her, I had
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one of the the Ashley Lyons she did, she was singing and they
made me take the slideshow out. So when you when you turn on the
the western, it'll say this movie is dedicated real quick.
But it was actually a whole slideshow dedicated to her
before the movie started. But they made me take it off.
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But I'm yeah, I didn't really not never had no really issues
with the editing and like once, I mean maybe once or twice, but
now I like no, no, no, no, 'cause you know, your movie
sound like garbage and you smitten the garbage.
You know that shit sound like garbage.
And if you know your side, if you know your, your, your screen
look bad. If you know, you know your movie
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dark, you know, shits missing. And it's I I know it.
I'm not gonna sit and make it seem like I'm perfect.
There are movies where ever likeeven like the Western is a it's
like, I wish we could have did this better.
But again, we filmed that three years ago.
So now I'm at the point now it'slike it's something not right.
What can we do to fix it? And you need actors that
understand that like they're notjust y'all want to be in a good
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movie. Y'all want this movie to hit
these platforms. And it might have you might have
did thought you did a wonderful job ever when we filmed with
you, When now it looks hey, you,you know, you're messing up or
hey, the lights not right or hey, this let's get y'all back
and let's fix it. So that's what you want.
You want actors that understand that not Oh, well, you know, I
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did my thing and I'm I'm just gonna do this and be done with
it. So no, you're not in it for this
because film is art and you wantto put out the best you can.
So like I've learned from, you know, from starting.
And I think even the having meetings and rehearsals are very
important. And then even like you said
earlier, getting to know people,those these meetings are very
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important because two minds are better than 1/3 minds is better
than two. So us having a meeting and
discussing something you might catch something I didn't catch
or you, you know, like the screening I'm having tomorrow.
We have a screening and for the cleanup tomorrow at 5:00 at
center to mod Arctic 2. It's free.
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And I'm, I want feedback, you know, do y'all feel we should
put this movie out? Do y'all feel we should add on?
I, I actually wrote it as a series.
So it's are we gonna should we just put it out as a series or
should we put it out as a movie?You know, it's different.
It's it's actually a real it's based on true life story is
something different and something I haven't seen out
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yet. So in you know, so it's
everything we do is sort of different.
So I get it. If people don't like what we put
out, I get it. You don't have to like what I
put out. I like what I put out.
No, man, that's all that matters.
I'm actually do the plat OK likefor example I'm just use an
example. Is it harder to get on Peacock
(49:31):
Netflix than it is Tubi and doesit matter?
Yeah, Tubi, Anybody can get on Tubi.
Everybody in their mind, the laws, you can hear it and see
it. I've seen them on Tubi.
Peacock is sort of different. Like I said, I'm on Peacock
through Mavericks. I don't know how that goes with
that. Netflix is totally different.
You got to go out and get you anagent.
(49:53):
It is it's a lot. I mean, I haven't got there yet.
Hopefully one day with the graceof God, you know, right now I'm
working on the to be original and then maybe we can start
working towards Netflix. You know I'm taking a still
trying but it's. Only trying to, if I see you get
into it is, Oh my God, I'm gonnabe smiling.
I'm like, I interviewed her, interviewed her, I interviewed
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her. I know her not because I,
because I'm starting to see moreblack cinema.
Get me to, you know what I'm saying?
And it's a testament to that community because it's like,
it's, I mean, I for what I see is, is like they committed to
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not only making good quality stuff, but giving great quality
stories. You know what I'm saying?
That even though it yeah, it could be hood or what have you,
it's still a good story for you to follow.
And you're one of the ones that do that.
And and and shouts out to you, Mama, for real.
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Of course, I mean like, but that's why I said you got to be
you got to be different. Even like you said with the
Western if it comes to you. Last night a movie came to me
and it was about I was looking at the jet beauties and I was
like, we should do a movie aboutthese females.
I can't use jet because you know, that's copy written or
whatever. But you know, I have a magazine
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called Gichi wine. It could be Gichi Wine or a
whole another magazine and we can have how these black women
are fighting each other to be the beauty of the week.
And it don't have to be a horror'cause I think you know
everybody. You know, sometimes you want to
see, you know, beautiful black women fighting over who wants to
be the next week of the week. So I don't know that came to me
is something to write about as well.
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It could. Be a comedy documentary.
Yeah, I hear that. Yeah, he would say that.
Could be a comedy, a fake. No, no, no, no documentary is
real. We try to do something sake, we
wanna do a fake. We wanted to be fake.
But I like what you're saying, 'cause then it could be them
telling the story. You could have the girl
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interviewing why they should be beauty of the of the week and
people who don't make it and howthey mad, you know, stalking
people because they can't be thebeauty of the weekend.
It's like you're not cute enough, baby.
You're not cute enough to be on our cover.
You're not pretty enough. Yeah, like it could be funny.
It could be like Anchorman instead of doing like them
(52:30):
working at. But that's how I came to me.
Instead of them working at A at a news reporter, it's a magazine
company and they're like lookingfor the next beauty of the jet.
I really want to say jet so bad 'cause that's so dope.
But then it can be, and it can be sisters.
It can be beautiful black women and two pieces fighting who is
going to be the jet booty of theweek.
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And then, you know that one girlthat has that dream.
My dream, my dream on this earthis to be the Jet Beauty of the
week. And I'm gonna do whatever it
takes to be the Jet Beauty of the week, yeah.
No seriously, that was the thingwas the JetBlue of the week.
See y'all kids don't understand Jet magazine when your mom and
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daddy used to get in the mail, it was small.
About right there in the middle of the Jet Beauty of the week.
I never forget that right beforethey stopped Jet the wrestler
Trina far too. She was the actual Jet Beauty of
the week. That was a fade, yeah.
You what? What?
What? What?
What? What?
What? What?
(53:36):
Rapper who? The the wrestler she she she the
wrestler. OK, she known as God, Dang it.
Her real name is Trinity 52. But Naomi, Naomi, she was she
was it was a couple of famous ladies that was Jake, dude of
(53:57):
the week, Jane Kennedy shoot. It was a bunch of men.
I used to collect them. I ain't all right.
I used to collect Jack. You know, Jack that would have
shit. So but no, that would be a hot
dog. Actually, that would be hot
because even to the point when Ifirst got to the adult film
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business, pictures was the thingbecause you had like the
different magazines. It shoot the different websites
where it was just pictures. So yeah, no that you know
(54:40):
something I like your way of thinking any kind of movies.
I like you. I mean, it's, it's, we try, you
know? Oh my God, so so people, you
know, I heard this lady yuckers.She she's in the car, she's
driving, she's always in the MO move because she is a business
(55:03):
lady. So with that being said, can you
tell everybody where they can find your movies, where they can
find you? Everything you need to know
about Gichi One Films? Well, OK, so basically again,
I'm Felicia. On Facebook.
I'm Felicia Gichi One Rivers like me follow me.
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I have too many friends but you know, still support 'cause I do
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last name is Rivers like the river outside but reverse RIVRSI
do have my Facebook page which Iwould love y'all to follow.
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Right now we're at 8 million. It wasn't 49 million but you
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Like follow share again. You can subscribe to that as
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know supporting me and helping me in my struggle, in my film
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really like that. But you know I still got the
Instagram. I think I still I've been on 20
(56:34):
years. So if you're on there then thank
you. And Tiktok, I don't be on there
either, but I think I do have these pages set up.
I don't be on there. I'm more of a Facebook old
fashioned type girl. I do need someone to update my
website, itisgucci1.com. It is outdated.
It needs to be updated. But so then you know that is
through the website. Those are my Facebook pages, my
(56:56):
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Gucci One Thumbs, PO Box 41114, North Charleston, SC 29423.
You can write a letter, you can send a check.
You can send me some money. Don't send me a bill, but yeah.
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the line. Also check out my stuff on
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where I had I got the show called, had to smoke on it,
where I give maybe my unpopular and maybe a little controversial
rants and commentary and so forth about certain topics and
so forth as well as savvy smokers.
(58:02):
I talk to the industry's top male talents and producers.
We give you that real smoke froma male perspective about the
industry as a whole bunch of podcast stuff.
And what did you smoke over today?
Because I always try to teach our lesson because it's called
entertainment. What did you learn?
Well, you learned that whether it's the adult film business or
(58:23):
whether it's just the independent movie business, it's
kind of the same as far as when it comes to the bones you make
the content, you have distributed content, The
difference and what I love aboutbuildings that they live to have
a certain quality, a quality that which my side of the fence
is lost, which hopefully we'll get back at some point.
(58:47):
But the point being is that whenyou have the opportunity to be
in this business is a great timeto tell your story, our story,
to present it and put it on platforms for people to see the
reason why because the we are the new books, we're the new
(59:08):
mythologies or what have you. And we also laid the foundations
for the future with what is black culture and so forth.
Through these stories, it one allows people to feel it's OK to
be gay. It's OK to go see a therapy sees
(59:29):
it it it touches people's emotions so that they can deal
with certain traumas. Because we do see some of these
movies that talk about insects in the black community that you
never hear about and crime and so forth.
That's a lot of that. That mother, that mother.
May I one and two. Oh my God.
Yes, yes, see, and like I said before also it speaks to and and
(59:59):
I always say this, no matter what, the most scarier thing to
the American, to America is a woman, special black woman who
is sexually true, emotionally free and and knows herself.
And the one thing that these movies actually show is that a
lot of these females, it shows strength.
(01:00:23):
See. That why I say at the end of the
day, I keep telling everybody y'all don't want to admit this.
Y'all want women to be submissive but y'all forgot the
most important part when it comes to the lifestyle.
I mean the BDSM submissives havethe most power because it takes
more power to submit than to dominate.
Think about that. That's why y'all love these
(01:00:45):
movies. It doesn't believe.
But the point being is understand that what we do is a
business, how we move into business.
It's just a business that we love.
We get the opportunity to createsomething that will stand the
(01:01:06):
test of time. And that's the ultimate point of
getting in this business. No matter whether his point or
whether his movies, whether his music is to be timeless when you
want to be remembered, I believeMiss Rivers will be.
So with that being said, you know how we end these things all
day, every day. Life is a learning experience.
(01:01:29):
What's the point of the experience if you haven't
learned anything? Smoke this over.
Say goodbye to him, Miss Rivers.Y'all have a wonderful,
wonderful day. Check me out Get you one bye.
Check out stand ground. Check out Hollis Allah.
Check out treasure box check outHave you see my man?
Check out have you What is it? I got 23 movies on tube.
(01:01:51):
You check them all out. Put my name in Felicia Rivers.
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