Special Smoke: Take a First Take To Porn With Devante Yaps

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Express that and explore that isbecause of how dangerous and how
like harmful homophobia is within male community right.
Like if you go out and kiss a guy, you might get fucking
jumped, right? Like if you kiss a guy on the
street, man. Now this isn't to say it's.
Yeah, because I know it gave youGod.
Tell people you go to these conventions.

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It gives you confirmation of howfar you have grown into your
career. And also I'm pretty sure you had
a bunch of the top towns that you haven't shot with say, we've
seen your video. Yes, yes, I've had people who
come up. You can make money off of it.
But see you think about these. OK, let's just keep it 1 honey,
the girls nowadays don't give a fuck about the money.

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They want to go back. Well.
Yeah. So so it's kind of like the
girl, a lot of the girls that don't show their face with their
feet and ain't because they makemore money with the feedback to
where you're not doing the content housing, you're shooting
content, but you're not shootingwith everybody got their Mama.
Now it does kind of the circled and closed up a little bit to

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make yourself see. Y'all didn't think 2 Kings is
going to meet up did you? Having the two most polarizing
men in porn media is now connected.

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What's going on, man? I'm doing amazing.
How about yourself? I'm doing fine.
Bad. Oh, but how you enjoy your Labor
Day weekend? Bro I'm joining a lot after
this. Amen.
I'm about to turn up after this.What about you?
Oh save me out this piece bad. About to sit back and watch
Miami. Notre Dame was left of it.
Oh, I'm going to don't be honestwith you man.

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I got a 2 liter bottle of vodka.I'm going to throw some clothes
on go to my homie crib. I got 4 things of orange.
I got juice in the refrigerator.Hey, we going to.
Be you ready. I went to Costco, I had a basket
full. I'm ready.
Going to be a good weekend. Wait, wait, wait.
You see, I'm ready. So.
So look, let's begin here. Yeah, hit me with.

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Any smoke for your takes? Oh, of course, of course.
Oh please tell me about it. Please tell you about it.
Well, it's, I can't say who. I remember one of my first ones,
someone hit me up there was like, oh, I never smashed this
guy. This guy.
There was another one recently. It was like, I was like, oh, she
hasn't won any awards. She commented on the video.

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She's like, I won two awards. What are you talking about?
Of course I have people that message me.
They're like, oh, you need to stop talking with my friend.
She's going through stuff and then it's, you know, it's I've,
I've had blowback. Maybe my biggest blowback was
the weirdest one. I spelled someone's name wrong
and I said the year wrong that they were, they started.
I was off by a full year and it was just ridiculous, Bros.

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I was like, this is what you're mad about?
You see, what you're finding outis that these fuckers don't take
criticism with. No.
Because not because you're doingsomething and the way that

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you're doing it, yeah, has not been done in porn.
I'm just making this clear because we had our porn critics,
but they're always being like writers who you know what I'm
saying? But.
Not. The way that you do it with the
Stephen A Smith, the relating tothe basketball and stuff like
that, how did you come up with putting it with with basketball?

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Oh, one of my favorite creators Chief Keef, like he made a video
when he was talking about Sarah J being like Dennis Rodman and
then I made a video. I was like hey man, y'all got
like I don't tolerate no Sarah Jslander never have.
I don't tolerate that at all. So I made a video and that video
did like maybe 11,000 views and the next day I dropped like my

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infamous like top ten. I got 8 million views on it and
then I had to come back the nextday and say hey, I was wrong on
this. I was wrong on this.
And then from there I dropped myinfamous BBL like a crossover
video and then I just took off from there.
See, you know what I like to because it was like when I watch

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your videos and I sit there, I was like, you create
conversation, conversation that has not been important before
because it well, the key is though.
These conversations are happening, but they're in the
deep web, you know, they're on Telegram, Discord.
It's not on social media, it's not on the forefront.

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You know it's not publicly spoken about.
Yeah, because see that what the girls don't realize that the
fans, when they're around each other, they're talking.
And we do the same thing with Cherokee versus Pinky, Sarah J
versus Lisa Ann and so forth, you know what I'm saying?

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And but no one never publicized it.
They never put it out of it and everything.
And it also with the negative, you also have gotten positive,
you know what I'm saying, results as well.
Yes, I have to keep it. I try to keep it as balanced as
possible, you know, like I can'tcome.

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I can't come on the every day. Like, hey man, everyone's great.
Everything's amazing. Because man, like literally I
wake up some days I'm like, man,this stuff is garbage.
Like where's the effort? Like what are we doing here?
Like, why are you even doing this?
What's the point? You know some.
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Now this guy has been dubbed theStephen A Smith of the porn

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world. Yes Sir.
He's doing something that critics have not done before him
that many people who watch porn have not done for him.
And that is tell the God damn truth and be honest about some
of these females that's in this business.
And trust me, some of y'all ain't going to like it, some of

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y'all going to hate it, some of y'all going to love it.
But either way, it's called giving an opinion as well as a
point of view from a fan perspective.
You fill me with no sugar coating.
I'm talking about none other than the great Vante.
Say hello to the smokers man. What's?
Going on y'all, how's everybody doing tonight?
You, you, you know I got to be there man.

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Respect. When I said his name normally
tell him to say their own name. I had to say name for them all
but. Thank you.
Thank you. So 8 million, how short was your
date? You had that many views.
I was extremely shook. Like I was like, first of all, I
didn't even post. It was someone else that
reposted me on Twitter and like I, I everyone was texting me

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like the first time I went viral.
Everybody was like, I'll talk about every single person I
knew. Like people haven't talked from
high school 1020 years. Just like, hey, this you.
The crazy thing is I still get that this you text is just not
as frequent. Yeah, because it like you went
viral and and to get to it, it'sbecause sometimes fans don't get

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the opportunity to say what theymay be feeling about a scene,
about a talent and the whole 9. You say what they're scared to
say. You say it for me certain
extent. Exactly.
And for you, how important is itthat how can I put this instead
of ladies being mad? Understand the critique because

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it ain't that. Because you, you are a fan.
He's not. You're speaking from the
motherfucker that's spending themoney.
You feel what I'm saying? Go ahead.
So. What was the question exactly?
But the question is why? Why don't these ladies
understand the critique? Why don't they understand the

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critique? Yeah.
I guess it's because you got to think we're at a different time
now. Like they're not going up
through the studios. Like I've actually talked to
someone about this before. Or it was like the girls used to
come up through the studio. They were no proper hygiene,
they were no proper etiquette. And now there's more at the
house. You know, it's, I hate to say
that it's lazy, but it's just like we're as consumers, we're

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not getting what we pay for. You know what I mean?
It's like if you pay for a service, you should get what you
pay for. And that's where most of my
criticisms come from. It's like, I'm not mad about
like what they're doing. It's like get your back.
Always get your back. I'm saying if someone's paying
20-30 dollars a month, why do they got to pay another 6080 a
hundred for another thing on topof that?

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Yeah, because the thing about itthat I've been saying this, dear
Lord, the porn star has left thebuilding when this era came in
because it meant something to bea porn star.
It meant something to go to Hollywood.
It makes something to be on the magazine covers, makes something
on DVD covers. Yeah.
Plus it wasn't that easy for me to get into business, you know,

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period. So when them girls put out their
own content, it was not only to get sales, but also to attract
the bigger companies. Now the girls feel like they
don't need to fuck with the bigger companies, which is
stupid because. I'm going to be honest with you,
my perspective of that has changed a lot since I first
started because it's like if you're making 20,030 thousand a

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month on OF yeah, you don't really need the big studios like
I'm talking about. If you're a girl, you have 500 K
600,000 across multiple platforms.
I think you'll be fine. If you're smaller, then
definitely you need the studios.100% you need the studios.
But see, but see, even. Even.
But see, here's the point. Even with the girls that are
making that, Yeah, whatever it is, is we in the era that yeah,

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she might be making that, but she wants to stay relevant.
Oh yeah. How are these girls about?
It ain't about money for them. Yeah, they get the money
sometimes, but they want to be relevant.
So what shooting with the studiodoes is what makes them relevant
to this. Where the girls mess up it only
fans ain't popping in every goddamn country.

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Those companies are because theystill sell DVDs and so forth.
Because think about this for a second.
China shut down TikTok. Yeah, You build on coming from,
you know, period. So that's where the big
companies come in. It's it's the fact that only
fans made the pitch to the worldthat make girls think, no, you

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don't need to do this. All you need to do is this.
But they don't understand that. How can I put this?
It's a reason why the European girls are trying to shoot with
the guy that's shooting with those companies, because they
seen them. They ain't seen.
Trust me, I talked to girls thatactually to fuck with Gucci
third lady, they didn't know whothe fuck he was, you feel me?

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But no, don't get twisted, this era has enabled girls to build
their own, and it gave more power to them for sure. 100%
that's a that's a good thing. What's I guess it's a good
thing. It comes with positives and
negatives, you know what I mean?But I think from their
standpoint, it's a positive. For the computer standpoint,
it's more of a negative. But that's like what it, like I

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said, that's the main premise ofwhy I even come on the Internet
every day and rant. It's like, this is the why I'm
saying it's like we're not. We're asking for like small
improvements, you know, like at least can you please care about
a camera angle? Why is the camera 10 feet?
That's what I'm asking. I'm like a ring light is cool,
but it's like a decent light on Amazon's 20 bucks.

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It's like we can't make these investments.
See y'all hearing it? This ain't shit.
I've been saying I. Say it in a nicer way.
I say it in a nicer way. That's all it is.
So now what constitutes ain't talking about the star.
Yeah, the characteristics that makes a prime time player for

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you. The characteristics, first of
all, it's not always about looks.
It's about like your performance.
Like when I say performance, I mean like how immersive are you
making the experience? You know, like why do we watch
what we watch to get immersive it to think about what's going
on in life. Enjoyment, entertainment was
what you're doing entertaining? You know, are you good at what

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you do? Then it's like from there, it's
like how, how good is the chemistry between you and your
partner? You know, how long are you doing
this? No one wants to see a 2-3 minute
long clip. You know, That's how I usually
grade it. It's like, you know, how good is
the performance? How much, how immersed am I?
You know how much I am I am I actually enjoying this?
That's usually how I go by. So when it comes down to like,

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because you talk about the primetime players, you know what I'm
saying, comparison they do with the basketball players.
Yeah, for you, because he said not about the look, because I
would talk about this. The nasty the freaky the girl
is, the more she enjoy it, the more she look like she enjoy it.
Exactly. She gets it.

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So for you, who's the quintessential primetime player
for you? I'll probably tell you my my
favorite person is Jim Jules. I love Jim.
It's like she's a great performer and she seems like she
loves what she does. I think she genuinely knows what
she does. You know, very consistent.
That's another important thing to me, consistency.
Like some people they drop once and disappear for months.

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Other people do it. Some people overexpose
themselves. That's another problem.
Some people are dropping multiple times a week and it's
like, you know, spread it out every couple weeks.
That's what I mean by consistency.
I'm not, I'm not saying don't flood the market.
I'm saying, you know, wait untilwe ask for it.
Don't just throw it out there, you know now.
When you say consistency, right,you know, speak to me, explain

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to my fans what you mean by consistency within their, their
shoots and the things they do and stuff like that.
When I say consistency, I mean are they consistently showing up
every day and putting on a good performance?
It's like everyone's going to have a bad day.
When I say consistency, are you consistently showing up, putting
on a good performance, doing what you need to do?
Are you lazy? Are you actually putting in the

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effort, in the stamina? The thing is that we're all set
a different time where some stars are filming 2-3 scenes a
day. It's like, are you consistent
with those 2-3 that you still did in that day?
Are you consistent between you're working with different
people? You know there's boy, girl, boy,
boy, girl. It's like, are you consistently
putting in the effort every timeyou do it?
It's like, are you in a boy where girl seemed in the corner

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the whole time? You watching?
Action. Yeah, because they really think.
And sometimes girls, they underestimate the intelligence.
Porn fan. I keep telling y'all don't do
that. They don't see.
They don't think. Y'all analyze shit.
They think y'all Fast forward won't watch it again after you
drunk your Dick. You know there's something
bullshit I haven't heard now. No, only put like one minute

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because I won't 'cause if he drunks all the busted nuts he
won't spend money on my site. Yeah.
Yeah, that's some of the dumb shit I heard.
You're going to hear dumb stuff.There is some people that are
they, I'm not going to lie to you.
There's still some dumb consumers out there where it's
like, you shouldn't spend the money.

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Some people just say they spend the $5.
I'm like, Nah, I need a review. I need something.
Now, now when it comes to like you said, the people that they
say just mail it in. You know what I'm saying.
Give me an example what you meanby mail it in.

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Mail it in. I mean, they just lay there.
They don't do nothing. Like they're just, they're not
into it. You can tell by people's facial
expressions that they just don'teven want to be there.
You know, they're bored of it. It's just not enjoyable for
them. Like there's people that you
could tell the passions gone. It's just for the money, It's
just for the fans. It's just to keep the lights on,
you know? That's what I'm saying.
Like people, some people are just pure lazy when they do it.

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And it's like, again, there's noone telling them, hey, don't be
lazy. You know, there might be fans
selling them in their messages. Hey, this is trash.
This is are they really going tolisten to them?
It's like you already spent them.
Some of them have that attitude where it's like, you've already
spent the money. Why should I care about what you
got to say? Yeah, I'm just going to say
this. Come and have this conversation
right here because it's the reason I brought this up.

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You talk about people that sometime overrated right Like we
I like I didn't mention many times Mia Khalifa is overrated.
She didn't have I don't know whyeveryone went nuts.
Those things were not that great.
Y'all went nut over fucking. Mediocre performer?
Yeah, maybe below average. Yeah, so what's another girl

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that you see that everyone was giving props to, but they were
mediocre? Be quiet now, you'll be, but
you'll be giving it up that I've.
Been trying to be nicer recently.
Didn't even tell you one that I really recently go on to talk
about Blonnie Fesser. Do you remember her?

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Yeah. I was like, because I was like,
so I was making my videos. I was trying to make my POG
video, right? First of all, I think she's
Latina, so that probably wouldn't even mattered anyways.
But anyways, I was watching someof her old videos.
I went back and watched all the old ones.
I was like, man, she wasn't really that good.
You know, Summer, I saw a comment.
I was like, damn, I I really haven't talked about Blondie
Fester. Then I was like, she's in.
Oh, OK. When I say like the bounces that

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they, I'll talk about the ridingskills, I'm like, yeah.
I was like, is it really not that good?
It's like she's really not as good as we think she is.
That's what I'm like, huh? Welcome for me, if you're going
to be a good rider you got to be1 versatile to rider, reverse
cowgirl and cowgirl. You also got nothing out of your
ass in the whole line. There's a lot of girls that

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swear they're good rides but ally'all is good grinders.
It's not the same. You also got to think it's the
BBL blocking our view now. Some of them are not even good.
It's just the BBL jiggling and bouncing.
Oh, you know what I'm saying? Oh yeah?
Oh no I totally understand you so spin by BBL because you said
this. How did BBL mess up the porn

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game? These mess up the porn game
because they think it's a cheat code.
Now everyone thinks the BBL the cheat code yes I again my
opinions have changed over time because unfortunately the girls
that get the BBL do make more money so it might be a cheat
code for more attention. Well.
See the the reason why you see there's been going on it going

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since the beginning of time because I would ask girls, I
said you ever had producers. Make you something about your
body, make you something about, you know what I'm saying?

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You should. You might want to get bigger
tits or what have you. And girls who get the bigger
tits and bigger asses they do. It is a cheat code to a certain
extent. Yeah.
You feel what I'm saying becauseyou're not naturally built like
that and that's the body type that seems to sell there,

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especially for interracial. I'm going to tell you the the
body type that sells the most right now, like the one that
sells the most right now is the white girl.
No, no waste. Big titties, big BBL.
That's what sells right now and the companies know it.
Yeah, it's like you can get a girl like that.
You throw on Instagram, you get a good photo shoot, you do some
good marketing, some good promo on it.

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Hey, that's two. I hit a million followers in a
year. Oh yeah, because you can think
about it these days when interracial became king, you
want to see a white girl with a fat ass with this black dude,
You don't want to see just a toothpick, you know, period.

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So it get that where the power came from.
She's built for the brothers. Exactly.
And but see, that's the other part of it is that there's girls
in a lot of fucking. There's girls that get fucked
and I think a lot of people don't understand the difference.
You get it coming from you breakit down too, because, because,

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because, because a lot of girls that he talked about, they're
overrated. They they get fucked.
Yeah, again, that's what I'm saying.
They just sit there, they lay there, they let they let the
dude do all the work. It's like, why aren't you
fucking back? That's what people are looking
for. Again, it comes back to the
effort. It's like, where is your effort?
Like, why aren't you making thisan experience better for both of

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y'all, you know? But you're absolutely right.
That's what it is built for the brothers at this point.
Because that's who's trying to watch it.
Yeah. And then I have to say, we can
also talk about how interracial is almost, well, some people
will say it's killed black porn,you know?
It it did kill black porn. I don't think it's killed it at
all, you know? It killed it on the mainstream.

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It ain't killed it independently, but it killed it
on the mainstream. Also don't have the big studios
anymore. W where is West Coast
productions? That's one thing I realized a
while ago. Where's West Coast Productions
at? What happened was,

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yeah, you know, I'm about to saysome good shit.
Could we hit me? But yeah, what else is it?
What wasn't that visit invasive angels?
Aren't they still there? Oh Oh yeah, I know.
TT boy. Heat wave like a war, they
communicate. The trans ice.
Where's black ice? And now here's the crazy part.
People don't realize Pinky had aproduction deal with Black Ice.

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There was. She had so many titles on that
motherfucker. Yeah.
You know, period and see two also, I think my opinion that
was the best era of girls. That was the golden era.
Yet, because you think about pinky Cherokee, you're on the
white side. You had Lisa Ann.
You had Sarah J. Michaels.

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Shawn Mikes, all damn and stuff.It's kind of like what made that
error gold. Oh, it's because.
It was, everything was about. It was just like I say this all
the time. It had aura, it had a different
feeling to it. It looked, it was low quality,
but it was better production, you know?
Yeah. Like it felt more physical, felt

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more raw. It felt a little bit more
raunchy, you know? Yeah, 'cause you got to think it
was like how it is today. Today what, you're going to a
half million dollar Airbnb and making content?
Yeah. You're, you know, you're in a
really nice hotel suite making content.
They, they was like, they was just somebody's house making
content, you know, it was never anything too fancy.
And it just felt like, you know,well, I guess it was also

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harder, You know, the barrier ofentry was harder back then.
Yeah. So it was harder you actually.
And then you had to think about the social aspects that came
with being important. Star back.
Back in the day, you would get disowned by your family for
doing this. So yeah, I think it was harder
back then. The people that we had there did
it because they love sex, not because they love money.
And and two, they entertain morethan this era does.

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They could. I never forget when I first saw
Janet Jackman, her first scene, man, this is how you know a girl
is good. It makes you call your
girlfriend, say you need to comeover the house.
Have you watch? You know what I'm saying?
It's like they they put more effort in the fucking.

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I think about Carmen Hayes, the Slurp, how nasty her blowjobs
were. You get what I'm saying?
Vanessa Blue, you know, And thenand Roxy Reynolds shouts out to
her what have you, you know, period.
And also, that's where the blackBBW flourished.
Back then, you wanted me to talkabout overrated people.
I'm. I'm going to tell you right now,
man, this might be Roxy Reynolds.

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Not top ten. You probably in your head, she's
probably top five. Oh.
No, no, no, I ain't saying she was top five.
How about a second no it? She was great at the time,
though. She was one of like most
athletic people, she had a different bill, too.
But see, what's so funny was people were putting her over
Jada fire and I was like. Crazy.

(26:27):
That's insane. No.
No, I said I had an army for no Roxy.
I'm like, *** have you seen Jada?
Things are people love her to this day.
They love her to this. People still get mad at me
because I'm like, listen, sometimes you got to go back and
look at the old stuff because some of the old stuff will it.
It was great, but not all of it was great, you know?

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Yeah, because you got to think that the guys they had to deal
with, John, John, Brian Pumper. Oh, Anthony Pipes, Nat, Nat
Turner. Yeah.
Junior St. cost to the ground. Sean.
Mike, as somebody else I'm forgetting at this motherfucker,
there was some heat from girls had to deal with back then.

(27:10):
You. Know you got to think there were
there was less male talent then too.
Like people complain there's no male talent now.
There was where it was really the same 6-7 dudes rotating
right? You ain't right.
And then it then another thing Ineed to bring up, you got to
remember they were working with the same 656 black dudes and
then they started doing Bang Bros and then it started doing
more white dudes. That's.
Probably when the interracial started mixing.

(27:31):
I remember when I first started watching interracial wasn't
mixing like that, you know, it was straight black porn and that
was it. Then they started mixing over
time. Yeah, yeah.
See, y'all thought it was crazy.Yeah.
Because interation was not a bigmarket and they really didn't

(27:53):
want the girls to do. It you also got to think, you
also got to think the white man,the white dudes would be like,
oh, she worked with a black dude.
I don't want to work with her nomore.
It was those type of things going on in the background too
that we that we weren't really talking about.
I'm going to give you an inside reason why interracial became
king. See, originally they want to get

(28:14):
more black men to spend money onporn because they look at
statistics. Black people, we don't spend
money on porn like that. White people do.
So they made interracial. What they didn't expect was that
white people wanted it to. Again, the black men are better
performers the the top performers are black men, aren't
they? Yeah, actually you won't be

(28:37):
technical about it. Yeah, dread Jason Love.
Who else is there today? Brick.
Maxwell Brick. Villa God.
Damn it, my boy Dante Diggs. He's yeah.
I love Doctor Diggs. I love him.
He's. Going to be mad at me.
Richard man. Richard motherfucking man Rod.

(28:58):
Diggler, There's a lot of good meals.
Today, Prince Joshua. Oh, I'm happy you said his name.
I actually met him month and a half ago.
I met him, he had the Tim's on. I'm talking.
I was like, this ain't no way he's got the Tim's on, no.
He keeps the Tim's on. It was that is why I keep the

(29:18):
shoes on, I said. Have you ever tried to fuck
somebody on hardwood floors barefooted?
Let's talk about bro, you have the 10 relaxed.
You got to think I've been watching this stuff, you know,
10-15 years. To see him in person with the
tins on bird blew my mind. Like man, he really got this.
This is really him, no? He he's for real for.
Real. This is not.
This is not a gimmick. This is really the man

(29:41):
legendary. Oh my God.
So now this era is dominated by the only fan girl for the most
part. So for you tell me the only fans
girl that you see will be this errors Mount Rushmore on their
way to it. I mean, honestly, I got an

(30:05):
answer for that. I got an answer for that because
it's like I. Don't like somebody I know for
the urban market, I don't know for the white market this much.
Like I like some of the OF girls, but then you know,
there's again this the quality is different.
You know, it's a lesser quality than a pro studio.
And so I can't say this girl would be like Mount Rushmore,
you know, she would like, again,they all have their own faults,

(30:28):
you know, like, I don't even want to talk about my favorite
ones. Like I got one on the top of my
head. I'm like.
Nah, great. No, I'm not going to say it.
I'm not going to say it now. She followed me.
I can't do it. I can't do it.
That's why I'm like, I got to this is the this is the worst
part about what I've been doing,you know, like I don't think
some people notice that I've pulled back a lot of my content
simply because pushback. It's been pushed back, You know,

(30:50):
again, you don't you do not wantto see my DMS.
You do not want to see, Oh no, you do not want to see when
people get mad at me and it's like I had to get to the point
where I don't reply back when they're mad at me, you know,
it's like there's no reason if. We not had that conversation
rock about. Now, one thing about our
business, and This is why I knewthat I had, I had to understand

(31:12):
it is especially when it comes to continuing to point industry,
talking about the point industry, Yeah, what the fuck
I'm going to say. And I got to be at peace with
that. Yeah.
And I hate and and I don't hurt your butt.
Did you see it with the podcasters?
When they complete music, they catch hell from the artists.

(31:32):
They better fucking music bitch.They wouldn't.
Exactly. No, because what's funny is the
way that you talk is how the oldschool producers used to talk to
be girls. Yeah, you get what I'm saying?
You have a right To me, your words mean Wait because you want

(31:52):
to know why. The truth like I'm trying to
tell you like it's they do. I when I first started, you got
to think I had 20,000 followers right?
I got 30,000 followers on Twitter.
I'm about to hit 100,000 on TikTok.
I got damn near 70,000 on Twitter.
You know not mean on Instagram. You got to think over time.
My words hold more weight, you know and I got to understand

(32:14):
that like that's why I say I'm, I'm holding back a lot because
when I had 20,000 followers, I could come up here every day
like bro, this girl is garbage. This girl trash like this is
off. I was like.
Here's the thing, even though you may not say trash.
I know it's half. The fans still expect your
honest criticism. Exactly.
The thing is, though, I have to be.

(32:36):
I can't say it's trash. I have to say it's not good
because of this. It's not good because of that.
I have to back it up with evidence because again, it has
to be fair criticism. It can't be an attack on
someone. Some of them are still going to
take it as an attack on them. But I'm trying to say it has to
be like over time, I had, I can't come on here every day be
like, this is just unacceptable.I have to say, this is what I

(32:59):
don't like about the this is what she's messing up on.
It's like this is what needs to be improved and I have to back
it up. It has to be good criticism, you
know, like that's the most important thing like like I said
back 2-3 months ago, I could saywhatever I wanted to today, my
like again my words oh wait thisyou probably don't know this,
this like all the big companies follow me now that's.

(33:22):
Another no I already bro. You already see it, then you
already see it. OK, like I said, he don't pay
attention to the show. No, they're watching this show.
They're watching this show too. They're watching this show.
They're watching the smoking lounge.
I already got the inside scoop on that.
I'm like where? Are you watching?
They they go, they're taking. Oh, OK.

(33:44):
That's what I'm trying to play nice, man.
I'm trying to be nice. No.
But see, at the end of the day, it's like what you're doing to
me is needed. And the reason why I say that
is. I've heard that a lot.
I've heard everything like I wasmore popular, like no, we, we
need Someone Like You saying hey, this and this and still I

(34:04):
give praise and I give criticism.
You know you. Wouldn't know why because it has
to be a balance. Has to.
Be it can't be girls thinking that the fans is enjoying their
shit. When you sitting there, you got
more new subscribers than you got return subscribers.

(34:25):
Subscribers, you feel me? And on top of that, it's media,
It's you covering porn. It it's no different than this.
I can't think of this dude name.He's right.
For ex critics, they hated him because he told the fucking
truth about the movies and DVD, the stars when he made an

(34:46):
article talking about being between the porn girl and the
porn star. You know how many women were so
mad at that dude because he was calling?
He called him out, you know? So it's kind of like, yeah, it's
yeah, the delays ain't gonna like the criticism, but so much.
Yeah, because y'all sensitive. It's some of them that are

(35:09):
sensitive. It's like some of them can take
some of them. There's been a few I've messaged
where it's like I told them, like the criticism, you know,
I'll tell them what people are saying in the Commons.
I'll tell them what I think. Persons like.
This is what people are saying in the comments.
This is what I think personally.It's like I, I wrote plenty of
paragraphs and plenty of voice messages saying, hey, like some
of them, like the criticism haveimproved others, others, they,

(35:32):
they, this is all I can't again,I can't say names, but I was, I
made a video. It's one of my first ones,
right? I was like, this girl's
overrated. She fell off.
She's like, it doesn't matter. I already made a million, but
it's like you're missing the point.
It's like you, it's like you heard me rant for three minutes
and that's what you came out with it from, Like you're
missing the point. It's the thing about it is when

(35:58):
we say so, so the fans can understand overrated, it's that
they're getting the accolades, but the work doesn't speak to
the accolades, you know what I'msaying?
Yeah, it's like, again, it's like, yeah, I think back in the
day they would say, oh, this actually we weren't, we were

(36:19):
having these conversations back then.
He's like, oh, this girl's great.
Now it's like the day we can come back today, say no, she was
over 8 because we can go back and look at all the body of work
compared to the people in that era and get a better assessment.
I was like, no, people put her in high regards.
Like she wasn't wasn't really all that.
So you want to know why people put somebody in high regards?
Because they saw them on a DVD, they saw them on Brazzers, they

(36:40):
saw them on this, you know what I'm saying?
You know, it's it's kind of likeyou think the greatest
ballplayer is playing in the NBA.
No, you be where I'm coming from.
Yeah, the best. The best dude is on the streets
and he can't get his act together.
Yeah, that is so true. He's the best baller somewhere

(37:03):
in the hood. He could be in the NBA if he
wanted to, but he just can't gethis act together.
But I I do a couple of them frommy from my negative woods in my
years these that they kick. And I remember, though, it's
just some of the team that went Rodney Rogers when he was at
hillside shots out to my 93. You know what I'm saying?

(37:24):
It's it's like yeah, because each the point when I remember I
was when I was in the business, I had girls that when I shot
with him, I knew they were the shit.
They they won't be here and theywent in my and disappeared.
Yeah, you know. What I'm saying that happens to
this day girl pop out of nowhere, go start on fire.

(37:45):
We're looking at her like was she about to go off?
Actually, I I said that in a video before too.
I was like, oh, this year we're going to go to the top.
Had to come back a couple monthslater like hey, y'all was wrong.
She laid she she never came back.
And that's another one that ended up messaging me.
This is another thing I always learn.
It's like sometimes I make the video I'm like fell off.
Then she hits me up like oh, I'mgoing through this, I'm going

(38:07):
through that. I'm like, oh, that's my bad.
You know, didn't know. Brett and Brett.
See. OK, I'm about to be.
I'm about to be honest on this one because.
Don't worry, don't worry. I want you to be honest.
No disrespect to misleading on for what she went through and I
hope she made through, but that is some shit to say to somebody

(38:36):
when technically you fell off. You just explained why you fell
off. That wasn't me.
He was wrong. Yeah.
Be. Honest with you, be honest with
you. Let me tell you something right
now, I'm rarely wrong. I'm right 90.
So this is the thing. I'm not coming on here.
I'm not coming on here saying just random shit.
You know, I'm not just looking at a random name like no, you

(38:58):
fell off. I'll, I'll be honest with you.
I got a 500 GB collection. I know, I know.
You do your research, not from listening to you.
Yeah, you. Can tell, you can tell.
You can tell I'm not bullshitting.
Like if I'm saying again, at thepoint I'm at, if I'm saying
you're overrated, you're fallingoff.
That means I went back. I look, it's like there's four
or five month gap. You're not even uploading on

(39:20):
social media. You're posting the same previews
over and over. Like I'm looking at all this,
you know, I'm not. Again, there's some people that
probably think I am on here bullshitting.
It's like, no, I know. It was funny, you actually
telling the girls how to get themoney out of the fans if they
sit there and listen. If y'all women shut the fuck up
and listen, he actually telling you this is what they want to

(39:41):
pay for? Yeah, because if you had 8
million, that just law of numbers and averages.
I say 75% of the motherfuckers agree what you say.
Yeah. Of your customer base, ladies

(40:04):
and gentlemen. Yeah, I can say I can tell you
another thing I've been doing recently.
I literally will give girls advice on how to like do it the
right way. I'll literally say, hey, don't
work with just any Joe Schmo. Work with a guy with a platform
like this guy has. I I guess I would say I could
say some names here, OK, like OSO goals work with flight light

(40:24):
Mars, great platform. Someone like Dante Dicks,
someone's like Sly Diggler. Try to get on Freak Mob, try to,
you know, work your way up to that, then try to get the brass,
then try to get a bang. You have to do it.
You have to work with the guys with the platforms that aren't
just good, they're going to promote it.
That's how you actually get exposure.
You can't, again, you can't workwith just some random dude with

(40:47):
a camera. I think it's going to actually,
you know, progress your career. You got to be thinking about
career progression. It's one of.
The things right now the girls don't come in thinking career.
They think it let me go viral and then I can spend that into
some money. But very few females become me
and that's all I'm going viral. Yeah.

(41:07):
Because even to the ones that which I would say would it be
this error that would be destinycreed miss be nasty.
What is it? Finance, Janice, Miss and Miss
Sapphire. Love me some sci-fi.
Yeah, and big ass, that big, that crew, that, that foot, that

(41:27):
class that you know what I'm saying?
Because they set the trend and that girl was copying their
motherfuckers. Become the only fans, you feel
me? But it's like Miss B Nasty never
really did any porn too tough, but she gets thrown into the
pool, you feel me? The other 4 didn't got it in,

(41:49):
you feel me, but it's it. But like I said, the thing about
it is because the end game has changed, the mentality of these
people have changed because the end game was to be iconic.
It wasn't to go viral exactly. It was if I if get in it, if I

(42:10):
could be and build a career and make money off of it.
Really, you know they used it too help the escorting, but
that's a conference for another day.
Yeah. Yeah.
Well, we're not talking about that.
But we're still a career thought.
Yeah. Well, going back to what you're
saying about going viral, it's like as a person that goes
viral, like, you know, I go viral maybe once twice a week.

(42:31):
It's not about going viral. It's about being consistent.
Like it's about showing up everyday.
Like you can't just harness A viral moment and then think
that's going to like equate, equate the long term success.
You have to show up every day. It's like I try to tell people
all the time, if you don't show up every day, who is?
That's all it is. Like I know you're saying like
they want to just keep doing it and doing it until they go

(42:53):
viral, until want to get a hit. It's like that. 4 million views
on Twitter doesn't matter next week.
No. It does not matter.
Next week that's going to calculate, that's going to turn
to sales exposure that day when that when the algorithm quits
picking up that tweet, then what?
Yeah, what's? Because think of batteries,

(43:15):
those girls that are named, they're building a career,
they're doing consistent work, they're doing this, that and
they some of them are shot with the major companies, which back
to circle back when you talked about the major companies, girls
now missing the value of that because that's not being pushed.

(43:36):
What's being pushed is you can beat your own balls, you can
have a dildo and shove in your pussy and just throw it up on
only fans. You'll make $63 million.
That's what I mean pushed on them and then they're not
looking at they're not looking at the success rate on that
either. Did you know what was the
percentage I looked at this recently.

(43:57):
I think, like I say, I think, but from what I remember when I
was reading it, it was saying like 90% of girls, maybe more
than that, maybe more like 95% don't even make like 200 bucks a
month on OF looks like it's a lot like that's another thing I
wish people would understand. Like there is those OF girls
that are making the money, they're working hard, they're
running four or five different social media pages, they're

(44:19):
filming, they're getting photo shoots, they're working hard.
Like people keep saying this is easy.
It's not easy money. They are marketing themselves
the best girls like the girls you're talking about that make
the most on OFI see that OF Link3.
Three times a day, three times aday.
It's clockwork now, because the thing about it is one they use

(44:41):
every nook and cranny of OF to get money out of that bitch,
from the messages to the live tocontent to pay-per-view, all
that shit. You know what I'm saying?
And like you said also, here's other kicker.
The ones before they got the OF they already was popping on

(45:03):
social media Exactly. So they already they already had
a million followers walking in the OF and that and the first
thing they wait a second, she got AOF.
Oh, she might get butt naked. Check it out.
Hey, I can't tell you she getting but they could.
Ain't no previews. No previews on Instagram, but

(45:24):
that's what I was saying earlier.
I was like, I honestly believe you're a girl.
You got 500,000, you got a million followers.
Just do OF like the studio exposure sometimes good, but I
think at the right the point nowto where it's almost not like do
you know how many views you can get from a reel nowadays?
Just making a goofy reel. Do you doing a dance?
But I would think this is me because I came when I came in

(45:45):
2010. I wanted to work with the big
dogs. Yeah, it got that Granny.
I won't go to Hollywood. I said I want to bring them to
me, which I did bring some brickdogs to me.
But the thing about it is these girls here it like the girls
just come in. They want to go shoot with a
Wesley Pipes. Yes, they wanted to hook up with

(46:08):
Prince Joshua. You feel where I'm coming from.
It was like it was not just I get to get in front of this
camera woman called. It's being a porn star means
that I'm elite. Yes.
I'm elite, I'm the shit, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah. If you, if you put porn star on
Backpage or Craigslist, your phone blew up, you verified.

(46:32):
They know you ain't a cop. Exactly where they're coming
from. You know you get to go do the
clubs. Yeah, I get to say it used to
mean a lot more. It used.
To mean you know too. It's like now the OF girl killed
that, you know what I'm saying? Because the porn stars did porn,

(46:56):
you feel me? Regardless whether they put out
their own content or not. Yes.
Yeah, even to the Cam girls, it's like we would not see him.
Think about where porn went fromto where it came today.
It was going to happen that the content creators, the
independents were going to take the power back.

(47:18):
But I also knew that we will treatment the business because
don't get it twisted, them girlsthat made it 8 million.
You know what's funny? They still discount their page.
There's another such that we haven't talked.
We haven't talked about the companies running their pages.
It's like they might be making that money, but they 3040% of

(47:39):
that's gone. Oh yeah.
Then talking on top of that, it's like.
Oh, the companies can't keep up because I told people pets and
chillies. Why?
Why would these companies do a site wide discount?
And they're doing it more frequently because they're not

(48:00):
making the money to keep up withwhat they what they pay these
girls because their percentage. Don't get it twisted, you know
what I'm saying? Yeah.
But it's also back what you weresaying earlier.
They got more new subscribers coming in than retaining
subscribers. If they actually retained it, we
would have to be doing that all the time.

(48:20):
Yeah. Also it's another thing, it
might be a marketing trick because you know if you put it's
actually $20 then you say it's always 5 because I bet some
girls probably always run on that $5 sale.
If you're hitting any biggie to rebuild, hey man, hey.
But he again, they should get the back.

(48:41):
They deserve the back. Yeah, yeah, because I tell
everybody this, this is a matriarchy.
Women make the most money per capita in this business.
I don't give a fuck what anybodysay, you know, period.
But like I said, but to me back to with with the companies, I've
like I said, I I get that. Yeah, she making millions just

(49:02):
at the third. But the thing of it is, is
everybody hits the wall, the kids go past that wall and how
many new girls who think 10 years and that is going to ask
to have that 83,000,000? Oh, they're going to burn
through that shit. They're going to burn through
that shit if they already done it.
Well, you got to think it's alsoa lifestyle thing.

(49:23):
They're attracting other girls to the lifestyle that they live
with. How many OF girls you see on
their lifestyle? It's everyday Club Beach.
They're in the same place. Exactly.
Dubai places I've never heard ofbefore.
Yeah, because. Because that's the one thing
that these girls do not have is financial literacy.

(49:45):
Hey, so. Again, my opinions have changed
over time. Like some of them are invested
in the crypto, some of them are starting businesses, some of
them are invested into local businesses.
Those are the. That's the what you should be
doing. Yeah, you know, pretty.
Yeah. I wish that precious Fit would
put when they got their podcast instead of the dumb ones.
Pressure fit needs to put the dumb ones on there though.

(50:06):
They put the dumb ones on, they just want to burp it.
They they need the dumb ones on there.
That's all we're getting used. So so with this generation, how
are they different from the pastgeneration of the porn girls?

(50:27):
Well, it's just simple like I said earlier.
Like this generation, I think wejust don't put enough emphasis
on like what's important. And that's the consumer, you
know, and that's another thing, the studios, when we have the
studios, the studios were worried about the consumer
because they knew you had to. You got to think there was also
a lot of more. It was more money up front, too.
Yeah, pressing the DVDs, gettingthe DVDs in the stands.

(50:49):
They actually actually put Mark,you know, thought behind their
marketing. So it's just, it's just
different today. It's just how really almost
every aspect is different from how it used to be back in the
day. Just the emphasis should be the
consumer again and just giving the consumer a good, a good
service, a good product. Yeah, because see also this
generation is way more entitled.100% million girls million.

(51:14):
It's also from you ladies. Y'all look for the easiest way
to the money. No, because think about it.
I mean don't get it twisted a lot of females go with solos not
because they thought of it, it makes sense they webcam, no they
saw the next girl do it. They said that's all I do and I

(51:37):
make 6 figures. Again, they don't see the work
that's going on behind it. They don't see that girl, that
Cam girl who's making that much money, she's on Cam 5-6 hours a
day. No, they want to believe.
They I always say this. They believe anything and trusts
nothing my friend. Trust.
It's going to be hard work to dothis.

(51:58):
Either way, even going back to what I do, people probably look
at me like, oh, this is easy, I can do it, I'll talk to you all
the time. Just start it up, see how hard
it is. First of all, you got to be
entertaining. Yeah, somebody, Mama can
entertain it. Because you talk don't mean
you're entertaining. Exactly.
Is that because you fucked doesn't mean that it looks good

(52:19):
on camera? I'll be honest with you, I don't
think I'm entertaining, but I'llbe dead serious when I'm
talking. I'm dead serious irritated, bro.
It's no. But see that why I like Because
this is always why your words stick.
You do the research. Yeah, where I'm coming from,
it's like. I'll be honest with you, before
I make a video, it takes me 3 to4 hours of research because it's

(52:40):
like I got to go because this isthe hard part.
Seeing when did they start? You know, because you got to
think all, every girl doesn't start on Bang Bros, She doesn't
start at the Bang Bus. Some girls start on the casting
couch. They start on an amateur site.
And then you know that that information isn't just readily
on the Internet, you know, as their professional seems to see
the thing. About it is this is what they
got to understand. It's how I saw you.

(53:05):
Just like you said. I didn't know that you had a
month of the cooks for sale. Yeah, you get filming for three
years. How the fuck I post new?
I just found you yesterday. Got number night in America.
You know what I'm saying? It's like.
No, I can tell you the 1 specifically where I that girl
messaged me. So I knew she I knew she did OF
content before that, right? Yeah.

(53:26):
Like I looked at the website, itwas like Brazzers, it said 2020.
You know, I was like, I know shedid something before that and I
ended up being off by ear. You know, it's like I can't, I
can't see when you started OFI can't see when none of this
started. See, she's like.
Understand this, The best I can tell you, this is like this.
Always put a caveat, like, look,understand this.

(53:50):
I don't know where she started the business.
This is when I saw her. And from this day to this day,
she's been underrated. You've been out coming from.
Yeah, girl, she's right. It's just like this one girl
this well, I was overhearing on a space.

(54:13):
This female was talking shit about this one female right and
the females were talking shit about it had changed the name
and what have you and she was talking shit about it.
What have you so I talked to that female.
She was like it ain't no big deal.
It nothing like that. You know the Bush we now it
isn't porn, but you get it coming from I interviewed her.

(54:36):
I didn't know that. It's because this is what girls
don't get. It ain't when you started, it's
when we fucking noticed you. Yeah.
Samuel Jackson being the shit load of movies.
We didn't give a fuck until he got the what?
What's that shit with Queen Tarantino?
Damn it I had on tip my tongue wasn't.

(54:57):
No, it wasn't pulp. He was he.
He was saying do the right thingMO MO MO better Blues.
Y'all didn't give a damn about it until then.
It's when we see you. That is when when you hit it.
How many rap artists or basketball players we didn't
know they were popping in cars. They got pros where you come

(55:22):
from, You know what I'm saying? You know, period.
It's when you being seen. So it's kind of like to me, you,
you a nicer guy to me. I've been like, and your boy,
I'm doing my job. My job is continue, fuckers.
That's what I get paid to do. You're not going to tell Steven

(55:46):
that he can't tell motherfuckingLeBron James that he's thinking
up the court, then he gets paid.That's the thing.
Steven ain't going to show up the next day, say hey, that was
a horrible performance, that was.
Yeah. You know, Perry, is, is that
what we do? It's right that what I said, you
have never been. We've never had anybody in the

(56:07):
industry that gave an honest critique.
You feel what I'm saying. And in the way that you would
hear it on Sports Center, you would hear it on the, the, the,
the, you know what I'm saying? FS1 or even on news, you know.
So to me I say thank you for it.Yeah.

(56:28):
Thank you. Thank you for the appreciation.
I don't plan on printing anytimesoon at this point.
I understand my role. I understand what I need to do.
You know, again, it comes back to showing up every day, keeping
the criticism fair and keeping everything balanced, you know,
because again, some people like it when I do say, hey, this is
how it is. That's change.
Some people like when I'm saying, hey, we need to give

(56:50):
respect to the people that came 20-30 years ago, you know?
Yeah, because I know I got I we got to talk about this one.
I got to get started on the video showing the Brazilians
appreciation. Monica, Santiago Luna.
You probably don't remember Rihanna Wedger.
That was a good one. She was a good one.
Trying to remember her, I remember the other two easy.

(57:13):
Yeah, who else? Oh, that was another one.
No, Jeff, when you mentioned that, well, I guess that the
Asians, when you were doing the Asian for I guess now, yeah, at
first when you said it, I thought you said all the time,
like if you don't put Liko in that motherfucker.
That's another problem. Everybody, everybody hates when
I don't do like all time, every time.

(57:34):
And I'm like, sometimes I just again, all time is hard because
again, he doesn't. This is another thing I
realized. It doesn't matter how I do the
list, everybody's going to be mad.
But she has to point the list because conversation.
Yeah, it's the conversation. But at the same time, sometimes
I have a very I'm talking about,I spend a week on the list.

(57:55):
I'm like, I'm over here just OK and put this here, put this
here. Then I put the list out like
this is some days I put the listout like bro, this is so solid.
No one is going to be able to say nothing then first time.
I did a episode on my premium smoke when we all go check it
out. Smoking on your top five.
I did a top five. The list is up.

(58:17):
If if you following on loyal vans, it's it's up and it don't
trust me. It it was hard because did the
one through 5. I could have switched it.
Yeah, I could have switched it, but no, because you like, even
with me, it's like, for example,I got to go back and look up the

(58:41):
white girls because I know more the black girls than I did the
white. Because the ones that stick out
my mind was like Jesse James andand Jenna Jameson and Savannah
Stone, AKA Savannah Evans married to and she'll know
Savannah Stone is right because she's married to Evan Stone or
what have you. And then you got the Sarah J,

(59:04):
you got the the Annabelle Danger.
No, the Belladonna. Yeah, Belladonna, man, he has
some flashbacks right there. You OK?
Oh, Belladonna was a Gee. I hear that one a lot.
That's not one I've been able tolook up yet because every there
was like, oh, Michelle Tucker's another name I hear a lot.
I have not gotten to you. Oh, yeah.

(59:25):
Oh yeah. Do you know the truth?
No. It Lena Hartley, if that be her
name. Hartley.
I think that's. My dad talked.
No, my dad taught me about, toldme about that one.
She she was beast. It was like another one, my dad
said. I just had a phone call with him
a couple weeks ago. He was like some Mina Minka
lady. I can't.

(59:47):
Remember, was he Asian? Maybe, I don't remember.
Yeah, 'cause Mika was a big titty model for score.
Yes, a budget porn Asian. Yeah, no, you talk about the
bimbos. OOG Bimbo.
Yeah, yeah, Lisa. Well, what?
Not Lisa and Lisa McKenzie I remember her from.

(01:00:10):
Chelsea charms. You remember Chelsea charms.
Oh yes, Gianna Michaels, Oh my God, she was.
But see, I can't be in the days of the BBWS though when the BBWS
got high. Listen, I got, I've been meaning
to tweet this. I need the BBWS to let me be the
spokesman of the BBWS. I need the BBWS to say hey you

(01:00:32):
could be our spokesman because we got to show more appreciation
to the BBW. That's another thing BB, no one
be proud. BBW no more?
Yeah, yeah. We got girls on those epic that
don't need it, I don't think no.Because the body type that is
selling the girls wrong. Yeah, point I was saying no, no.

(01:00:56):
I'm trying to say there's girls that already have the body and
they're still getting on those epics.
Like you don't, you don't need it.
The doctor should've never gave it to you.
Whoever you got it from, you don't need it because this, this
is another thing that needs to happen.
Like I understand that the DVL is selling better, but we still
need to keep the natural girls, you know, like we need more than
natural girls. Be proud.
They're natural and doing it, you know?

(01:01:18):
Well, see, you think about it isthat, yeah, I'm about to go
there. Social media makes us think
because I said the foolishness of the feud drives out the truth
committee. There's a lot of women at work
I'm seeing nothing but natural. I'm working around nurses so
y'all know what scrubs look like.
Yeah. Once again, when the scrubs get

(01:01:40):
tight because I don't remember being that tight when I was when
I was younger. But but no, I think that is what
selling because even when I named the four girls that I said
for the only fans, they all built the like, you know what
I'm saying? And that is the image that

(01:02:04):
America, the fashion companies owes epic anything to do with
health pushes. You know what I'm saying?
Because they because it's what Isaw a video where a guy said
what women think women want to lose weight thinking that that's

(01:02:26):
what we want when we want y'all fit.
Yep. That's the hard thing.
About that is that it's that I think thickness also comes to a
regional thing. I'm from Arkansas.
I love warm, bad, bad, thick. One man from the north is not
going to feel the same way. It comes that I've told girls

(01:02:47):
there's plenty of times already you need to like your body.
It don't matter if I like your body or not.
I have been honest with some girls in the past where I said,
hey, you just better. You were thicker.
I just got to be. It's confidence, right?
Like 2 of my favorites right now, Dallas Playhouse, shout out
to her and Charisma De Luca. They look, they know how to move

(01:03:07):
their body when they fucking these big girls.
You know how to move their body,shake their ass when they ride.
All the stuff that we talk aboutfrom the smaller girls, you
know, period. It's it's about their confidence
because I tell people it's too. It's better to be sexy than drop
dead gorgeous in porn because sex encompasses the full image.

(01:03:29):
Yep, you know, period. And we want you as as slutty as
possible. It's like that's why it's funny
as fuck. The drop dead gorgeous girls
don't make as much money becauseTrump.
Even the ones that making billions, there's girls who
three times better looking at them.
They ain't making big $1000 a month at best from three

(01:03:52):
different sites. It's it's about that image is
the is what it betrays their personality.
And I think that's what females instead of them trying to sell
sex, they're just trying to sellsex and and and and pussy.
Yeah, yeah. They're not really trying to

(01:04:13):
sell a product, selling a service.
That's why I think some people, you have their mind today you're
selling a service. Yeah, that what I mean by it's
because being a porn star, you damn it, it's a celebrity.
Yeah, we do have a list. We have people that we got
people. This is a crazy thing, man.

(01:04:34):
Just as a porn star, you can getbillions of views and still not
be counted as like a celebrity or people want to act like they
haven't seen you before. That's crazy to me.
Oh yeah, because like I said, it's I tell people this all the
time the the entertainment industries, we are the Guinea

(01:04:56):
pigs in every which way the word.
We were the first ones to come up with how you make money off
the Internet, the streaming, allthat shit, even to where
licensing content upon the streaming service.
They got that from the porn companies because porn companies
did that with Pornhub and all them over tube sites, if not
bought them. So it's kind of like people

(01:05:22):
don't really, people don't understand that music and porn
runs the world because they invoke the most rawest human
emotions. 100 percent, 100%. And primal, yes, because I'm
sorry you can't get more primal than list. 100% right about
that. Oh my goodness, man.

(01:05:45):
So now, now the are you going toput you going to do a podcast
with this? I really can't talk too much
about what I'm doing because I knew you asked this question.
I can't talk too much about it, only because good.
Cover. You got so good.
Cover me. I do it.
I do it. Yeah.
That's why, I'll be honest, that's about to push it off

(01:06:06):
because it was always supposed to be done before I came here,
you know? But I'm letting it happen, you
know? It's just all I can say is I've
had a lot of people approach me about it and I'm just doing
what's at the end of the day, it's going to be best in my
interest and where I can keep creative control.
Because a lot of hey, there's people that say, Hey, I can get
you a podcast. I can do this for you.

(01:06:26):
I can do that for you. But it comes at the cost of I
want you to say this, I want youto push this agenda.
I want you to say this about my models.
And I try to let people know like I, I bro, I have not
accepted a single Lube ad. I have not.
So I have not took a single Dickpill.
I have not. I have not let no company send
me anything because I want to keep what I'm doing authentic.

(01:06:48):
You know, my credibility is moreimportant than any money they
can get me. That's why I try to let them
know. Like if you're going to give me
a podcast, let me say what I want to say.
Let me do it the way I want to do it because as soon as I like,
I'm going to tell these companies this too.
It's like as soon as you say, oh, we're, we want you to say
this, you're going to say that people start tuning me out
because it's like, I'm saying what, saying what I'm saying,

(01:07:09):
You know, I know I don't. That's the last thing I want to
do, you know, like I don't want to sell out.
I don't want to be, I don't wantto be a puppet.
I don't want to be a mascot. You know, someone told me that
because I'll, I'll be honest, I was going to go with a company
before it took a black man that I'll tell you.
I'll say his name. His name is Kevin.

(01:07:29):
Lives in Vegas. At a meeting with him, he was
like, oh, that company uses mascot.
That's all I needed to hear. Be like, yeah, I'm not doing
that. It's for me to do it my own way.
Build it up from 0. Yeah, because even in, in the
case of my podcast, you know what I'm saying, independent,
yes, it's a hard Rd., but it's amore fulfilling Rd. more.

(01:07:53):
Fulfilling and it's better long term.
Yeah, it's way better long term.But like I said, I can't think
again. I can't think too much about it
because I'm doing I'm in a lot of talks right now, but it I am,
it's going to be a big enough. I already knew it was like when
I saw it popped up, I said yeah,yeah, he he going to be on
somebody's podcast or have a podcast or something.

(01:08:15):
Yeah, I'm what I say because. Like I said, you're the first
one. I, I really want to do this
because I, I remember I was likea friend she didn't like and a
friend she was like, what's his?What's is he doing, you know?
And then overtime I was like, no, I really want to do this.
And this is the one I was reallylooking forward to do.
I love what you do too. No, thank you, thank you, thank
you. Thank you for telling me that.
That feels good to hear out thispiece.
Much respect. They say that's.

(01:08:36):
What I want to do, This is why this is my first one.
I was like, no, I got to do this.
I don't care what nobody's saying, but hey, you can do
something bigger. I don't care.
Who cares? Man it like.
Because I genuinely like what you do.
Thank you man and and and to me,I love it because like I said
once entertaining and it's also informative in his education.
Yes, I need to do more educational stuff, but it takes

(01:09:00):
a lot more like 2-3 hours on a normal video.
It takes me 5 or 6 hours becauseagain, I'm thorough, I'm
watching YouTube, I'm reading books, I'm over here like really
learning about these. Who, who was it?
It's like Ebony Ames is the one I got to talk about.
Heather Hunter. I'm going to give Cinnamon love
her own video. I'm going to give Cinnamon love.
We don't pay enough respect to Cinnamon love.

(01:09:21):
She's still a sex advocate today.
Yes. An advocate today.
Family go front man Cinnamon. First of all, Ebony aids was how
can I put this she was the. Most populous dark skinned one
at. That time, right, you didn't.

(01:09:42):
It did it. It was her Gina Peppers.
Who's the third one? The third.
One, the third one because. The cinnamon love came a little
bit later. Yeah, who's the 3rd girl?
I'm kind of thing too, but I. Can't think of anything.
I know Vanessa Delry is one of the first ones that started.
It yes, yes, yes. And then it was Janine.

(01:10:04):
Peppers. Who else did I?
I know. I did this one already.
Like why can't I remember the top of my head right now?
Ebony. Because Ebony aids man she.
Was like was it destiny W that'sit.
That's it. Yeah, I don't like it.
You see what made Ebony? It was basically.
Ebony aids that BBL y'all looking for.
She had that naturally. You were naturally built like

(01:10:25):
that. Hey, hey, let me say my my my
goat Cherokee. She's the reason why women still
want that BBL look. That was natural.
Oh my God. Oh man.
And then? The girl that calls him Marcie
Thomas, Coach Marcie Thomas, whatever she wasn't on this
Kitty I see ain't so many damn porns beats.
Yeah, that's another one people always want me to talk about.

(01:10:46):
It's like I just. Again, I have to do my research.
It's a lot harder to be thoroughwith that, you know?
Yeah, of course. You know Janet, Jack, me.
I know her. She she wasn't a face that's
compared to me here. But no, I'm I'm going.
To tell you. These girls on the BBW side,
they're people don't talk about it no more.
Crystal clear. Yeah, people really need to put

(01:11:07):
respect. She.
Was the first BBW to really go mainstream because she was in
the Kevin Hart. She was in the Kevin Hart
special. What is first specialist?
The extra, the extra shit. And God damn.
Damn, I had Daphne Daniels. Yeah, God.

(01:11:28):
Hey. Thanks for mentioning me those
you got. To mention those to me after
it's all. Remember, because bro, again we
got, we have to show more recently the BBWS, bro, you have
to, we have to. Because I feel like they.
Are some of the most unappreciated first?
First of all, it's hard to be mainstream as a BBW.
Who do we really have 3/4 of them?
Yeah. And that's it.

(01:11:49):
Actually, Dad's Playhouse. Is one of the main.
Streams because she one of the ones that are shopping brazils,
you know what I'm saying and Carl, God damn it I mean I used
to know these things like the back of my hand you gotta study
it up man. You gotta do your.
Research. I didn't know these.
Days like the back of my fucking.
Head it also shots out the platinum pussy because she was

(01:12:11):
she was one of the ones that wasspearheading interracial along
with Sarah Janey on the BBW sideand shit and Elizabeth Rowley.
I remember her, she That was a subject we haven't even talked
about, just the. Women coming over to do
interracial, the white women that did interracial like that
back in the day, like, that was monumental.

(01:12:33):
Yeah. And like, I can't remember who.
Was it? I wish I could hear her name.
Top of my head, it was a white woman that was like her.
It was like people told her, oh,your career is going to go down
after you start doing this. And she did it anyways.
God. Damn it, it was a popular one.
She was extremely popular. I gotta look it up.
I gotta OK so many of them. There.

(01:12:54):
I know there's a lot of them, but there's one specific where I
can't remember. Right now, she literally they
were like literally like, oh, ifyou do this, your career is
going down the shutter. Yeah, she's forget it, it it.
It it her shit, she's still a kid.
And when I said we needed trouble with respect to the
Trail Blazers, like. That that actually got us to the
point to where we are. Because that's another thing

(01:13:14):
without knowing the history, we're just, you know, we don't
understand how we even got to the point we're at today.
See that? See, that's why I do my deep
dive. Podcast the smoke is over, but I
talk about that you know, but I talk about the downfall of black
porn and and I even said it's not just the black female talent

(01:13:35):
who really got hurt with black BBWS because that who was
killing the mid level DVD wise big and fat and freaks al cake
no DVDs is bad damn selling I. I I tell people all the time,
everybody. Was a BBW.
They just are having the one they love you.
I'm I'm going to keep it real with you, the class.

(01:13:58):
Of pink candy, Supreme Diva, cotton candy, T sweet candy and.
Superstar Triple X to me. That was the I remember
Superstar Triple XI. Remember Superstar.
You remember the? And Wendy Wick.
Wendy Wick came in. In in that thing and I worked
with three of them. Well, four of them actually.

(01:14:21):
I know I seen some of your videos.
I was like, man, you wild. Why are you wild like that?
Yeah, it was. See, I came in the game
independent and also back then your.
Function as a producer was not only to help them.
Girls put out their own shit, film their own shit.

(01:14:41):
But I got to work in Hollywood so I talked to TT Boy, the boy
from Heat Wave. Damn streets.
He used to shoot for the major companies shit.
I don't even remember Cam Cash. He was the first dude that had
DC popping, you know what I'm saying?
Larell for busty baby dolls, youknow what I'm saying?
It could for you to lick. See, people don't understand

(01:15:04):
there was so much for BBWS because there were so many sites
that were. Shooting because it was a
strong. Especially because the black
BBWS. No disrespect to the white BBWS,
but when they took hold the gamedied.

(01:15:25):
Don't disrespect to y'all, I love y'all, but it's the.
Truth because companies dried upbecause they couldn't do the
switch over to the Internet, which means that the more
mainstream. Companies took over, that was.
Able to be because Brazzers usedto be a maze mid level company
like that of Mason rankles because you had.

(01:15:46):
What was it? Yeah, I think I, I think I was
talking about this about my homie a little while ago, like.
Bro reality King's falling off Naughty America's falling off
Naughty America used to be the shit back in the day.
Yes, it was because because theydominate.
The DVDVDS but day content is not Brazen's figured out.

(01:16:09):
How to make these scenes? Work for the Internet.
The other companies still makingDVDs and putting it on the
Internet. Yeah.
Another thing about Brazen today, their social media games
is on. Top top tier social games.
They post every day, they stay on top of it.
That's another big transition. You got to be good at social
media now. You got to be.

(01:16:30):
Oh yeah, because shoot. Because I'm sorry and, and to
also they have signed the top girls.
They got all the top girls. They got Brazzers, got all the
top ones. They they, they got them and
they shoot them. I was like you.
See, so I'm like they, they. They also.

(01:16:51):
That it's a strong brand behind it too.
That's good, because when you see.
When you see that logo, you already know what it is.
Yeah, because like I said, they were.
One of the first ones that made integration to the Internet.
It was them Money talks. Not in America.
Who else invasive man was tried but it failed miserably.

(01:17:18):
Well, how do they fail? That's that's one of.
The ones I'm like where in. The world did they go OK When?
A lot of these companies. Their money was based off of
DVDs. Yeah, especially DVD sales in
America, You feel me? Because America is the biggest
market of porn by far, you know,period.

(01:17:39):
So the original website, these companies.
Had was where you can just. Go on there and buy the DVD.
You couldn't stream shit. So now he tries to switch it
over to where our membership section where you can stream it
and watch it. But the problem was that he
didn't know how to market his shit online because a lot of

(01:18:00):
these motherfuckers, they old school, they TT boy was shooting
porn in the mid 80s. You know what I'm saying?
So to. Him, it's like.
You can just tell these companies didn't know how to go
over heat wave, West Coast productions, all of them.

(01:18:22):
They didn't know how to promote on.
They didn't know how to market or promote online.
Brazen was smart because they put money into Pornhub and a
couple of these tube sites because people don't realize the
things that mainstream porn tried to do to sabotage the
independence. Like, yeah, they used to spend
money on making. Motherfuckers go subscribe and

(01:18:44):
buy your shit and then make a figure count and post it.
He's a boot bootleg. But.
They didn't realize it backfiredbecause they just made the
person more popular. That's what happens today.
That's what happens today because.
Porn stars today it's like yeah,they make a video it leaks but
you know that leak hits two 3 million views people going to

(01:19:04):
come back and see what else you got yeah so it's kind of like
once again they. Did that because they thinking
DVDs yeah if you bootleg my DVD you hurt my money if you bootleg
my porn on. Internet.
You making me money? They didn't know that, you know
what I'm saying? So because they had nobody.

(01:19:26):
I remember in 2012, my man told me don't see nobody out here.
Tell them girls make their own goddamn sight and put out their
own shit because this shit mightdry up.
He was like, unless you got 3 or4 shoots that that she got lined
up to get paid for. And plus they won't pay girls a
grand, especially baby. They're paying them girls like

(01:19:48):
3, 350 see that's. Another thing I've been meaning.
To talk about but I can't. Anymore like how pay for the
mainstream has to go up. You know I can't.
You know the exact numbers I can't.
Say the exact numbers it's. Like man, these some of these
girls do got to get paid more though.
Yeah, no, because they be getting these girls about 3.
Maybe 5 and now book rate. You know what I mean?

(01:20:16):
Yeah, it's like to me. That's one thing I do want to
talk about. I just can't at this point.
I got, I got to play nice like everybody.
Else you. Can though, yeah.
Oh yeah. Because.
I'm used to being most hated. At one point I was, so I'm going
to tell you one thing right now,I told.
People this all the time. I only want one enemy at a time.

(01:20:40):
See, there's. One there's there's notice
there's one. Person, I'm not going to say who
they are. They're the one person that
hates my guts. As long as that one person hates
my guts and it's only them, I'm happy that it like this.
It ain't that people going to hate you because.
I I have no beef with nobody in the industry.

(01:21:02):
There is some people that, yeah,probably that's all on the
street. I would not speak.
Yeah, if I see any convention, I'm not going.
To talk. I'm not.
Speaking to them, man. No, exactly.
You feel me? But.
Like I said. Again, it's when you do.
The work you do and you do good work.
You don't have more motherfuckers that don't want to

(01:21:23):
fuck with you versus who don't want to fuck with you because
your shit's authentic and it ain't even about like recently,
Full disclosure, I had a conversation about with with my
homeboy about the critique of a movie.
You know what I'm saying? I told him.
I said I ain't want you to feel like you know what I'm saying?

(01:21:45):
No, it was a good movie, you feel me?
But it was a critique that I had.
He didn't even take it personally.
You feel what I'm saying? Because it's about how you say
it. Exactly.
It's exactly what I'm saying this too, even no matter how
nice you. Put it you can't.
Help with that motherfucker going to feel and it is ain't

(01:22:06):
talking. It's your job to critique.
See I I'm not I'm not here to tell nobody to do their business
and I'm not in by no means because shit you do have 8
million views. I ain't got that yet, but
working on one of those about tosay I can tell you what I'm
doing. Like Twitter.
I'm probably doing like 2 to 3 mill a week, Yeah, on Instagram

(01:22:28):
I think I'm like 9 meals 9,000,000 for the past like 30
days TikTok and probably around like 5-6 million, which is
affirmation that what you're saying is good.
Content and like I said too you,you feeding the fans because
there's fans that want someone to speak for exactly like you
said especially yeah since. We.

(01:22:49):
Got tariffs and everything else.Yeah, they want more bang for
their buck. That's what I told people.
I said the only fan video was dying out.
The fans won't won't That type porn there, it's starting to
move that way. They want a storyline, they want
a skit to proceed. They want fans.
The thing is though, it's alwaysgoing to shift like that too,
you know? It's always going to be the

(01:23:11):
shift. Like as soon as we go back to
stories, remember we used to have movie parodies, movies back
in the day, so we don't have that anymore.
We can capture that again. It's going to get a whole
different. Niche audience.
That hasn't been accepted in years.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like.
We are going to shift more to that and then.

(01:23:31):
You know, 5-6 years ago, we'll shift back to OK, we want
something set because see, but see, now I'm going to tell you
the reason why. If we shifted that, it's going
to stay because of virtual reality, you feel what I'm
saying? And because the streamer culture
is now coming to the mid. 20s and 30s.

(01:23:55):
They're going to want the storylines there.
Because that. Plays to virtual reality because
virtually more people now doing that type porn.
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Boys start doing gang bangs and threes and shit.
You know what I'm saying? You know, but it is what it is,
man. Like I said, I, you know, I got
to bring this man back. People I got yeah, I'm about to
say I was about to say my phone on 10%.
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we going to? Smoke what?
What? What?
You probably smoked over today. What did you learn?
We're here to educate as well asthe end the chain.
Well, it's not easy being a critic.
No, you're going to ruffle. Fabulous.
You're going to piss people off because.
Your job is to be honest. Yeah, because honest and

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unbiased. Bingo, but see the problem?
Is is that especially in our business, they are extra more
sensitive because we're talking about sex, because everybody
feels they're a great fuck. They look great on camera, they
can suck a Dick, they can take aDick or what have you, but they

(01:27:14):
don't understand that this is anart form.
Exactly. It is an art form, yes.
It is an art form, yes. It is a.
Skill that you have to. Go work on and get better.
At you have to want to get better at it.
Yes, and in. Order to do that I tell people
iron sharpens iron. That's why you work with

(01:27:35):
established town. That way you work with creators
that are very experienced because 1 repetition helps.
Practice. Makes perfect it's called
experience because being in front of that camp you got to be
second nature These females got to know their angles, know how
to move their angles. The male times got to know how

(01:27:57):
to move them into position to pull off their angles.
But see y'all don't like it when?
A fan tell you you want. To know why y'all don't like
when a fan tell you? Because you look at fans as
fuck, boys. No, your customers they.
Deserve. To spend their money on quality

(01:28:18):
content and quality female period.
Just to give you a story, there was a girl that was escorting.
She answered the door if she didn't look.
What she looked like in the picture.
Me and she didn't make herself. Other dude turn around and left.
Why did he leave? Because he was looking to pay
for where he saw the picture andhe got less than that if you

(01:28:43):
got. More new subscribers then.
You got a base, you doing it wrong if you got to.
Sit here and. Film and drop 10 scenes within.
Five day period. You're doing it wrong, because
sometimes when you're doing quantity, guess what ends up

(01:29:04):
lacking? Quality, Quality, quality.
Keeps the money rolling. Ain't about she made 80 million
in 2025, bitch, I better hear in2028 you didn't made 500
million. But we know that ain't going to
happen. You know that ain't going to

(01:29:26):
happen because it takes a great mind to have longevity because
the money is in the long run because the biggest change, the
biggest can change so drastically that you lose money.
Yeah, I see me and talked about it.
We didn't see companies that wasmaking millions disappear.

(01:29:46):
What makes you think they're a talent one, the key to this
business? Is creating a product.
A package that will get your fans to invest in you
emotionally. Let me say that again,
emotionally, then they will invest in you financially.

(01:30:07):
But you don't. They don't.
But if you don't gain their emotions, make them feel
something, they're just going tolook.
At you as a fuck bitch. And they ain't going to spend no
money. That's the difference between
the 83,000,000 and the 100 that some of these girls make for
money fans, it's about the. Fantasy.

(01:30:32):
Now, with that being said, you know, we're in these shows all
the time. Life is a learning experience.
What's the point of the experience if you haven't
learned anything? Smoke this over my tape.
Tell everybody goodbye. Peace.
Yeah. See you on the other side.

(01:30:54):
Don't. Go to bed.
You, you, what's up? It's your boy Drizzy Drake and
you are now rapping with. Kane.

(01:31:30):
If boys can't watch from the sideline as I can't find like a
good time. Don't get caring by the wrong
side as I'm trying to get my book face like a part time job
Evercore top spotter coming after you laughter but before
you thought it was safe after I left the game then went back at
the game. Ain't a damn thing.

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Change still the same. The only thing that changed I
got the break in my man. I'm still the sheep.

(01:32:14):
What's up? It's your boy, Drizzy Drake,
and. You are now rocking with.
Pain.

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