June 24, 2025 • 59 mins
This episode Savanna Star is back and we discuss how her year been so far and her plans for Exxxotica Chicago. We discuss the content event going on at that time with SexworkPR and pacing yourself when doing events like that. Then we discuss the after effects on content creators post-pandemic and adjusting to the changes in the business. Then we discuss her coming trip to the UK for a content trade event and expanding her brand overseas and more.
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(00:00):
And we alive. Yes, Lord, I swear.
Like I said, like I said before we got on the air.
Every time you come, you come with it like a different look.
You a cat. You a chameleon girl you.
Know, got to keep it interesting.
(00:33):
Yeah, you didn't see I'm fallingoff, People falling off, but I'm
back. See, it wasn't that long.
And how have you been gorgeous? I've been good, I've been good.
So, Dad, how the year been so far for you?
So far so good. I feel like, you know, we're
just kind of getting started for2025 S, yeah.
(00:55):
Sure would. You've been up and down for me
so far. I've walked.
Right now we're recording this. I'm in my birthday month so I'm
turning to the silver age of 50.When's your birthday?
April 21st. OK.
Cut off, OK, right there to go. And Ashley was born at the cut
(01:15):
off, like at midnight. Oh wow.
Yeah, I remember seeing on the birthday I said well, damn.
So I was smoking and then I I I guess it's safe to say that I'm
a Taurus with every traits per SE, right.
So what's been going on you withyou since we last talked since
you was with she was on a premium small room showing them
(01:36):
beautiful titties off what you've been up to what's been
going on? I don't.
You know, like I said, just kindof getting the ears started,
getting ready to go to Exotica next week, and then kind of
getting everything set in stone and getting ready for this UK
event that I'm hosting in July, so.
(01:58):
Oh my God, yeah, he said. Yeah, wait, wait, the UK, but I
think I saw the advertisement. UK Splash UK something.
Yes, Squad House UK. Oh my God, why is everyone
having a slow start to the year?You know, I think that means
it's going to be a really busy summer.
Everyone's starting slow, so that way we can hit the ground
(02:20):
real into the summer. Oh my God because everyone I
talked it was like they really haven't done much yet and they
all are waiting like well exceptfor the ones that might went to
ABN but for the most part that was waiting for Zionica Chicago.
Feels like that's going to be like the kick off to the season.
Oh my God. See, yeah, tell me.
(02:43):
I hate that. I'm not going crack.
That means he's going to be lit.This is like everybody going to
be like, yeah, see, this is starting.
They really trying to get it started.
That's what it seems like. I'm excited.
It's my first exotica in a whileso I'm excited.
Oh my God. So.
So where's your plan for this desire to shoot Booth?
What's going on? You know, walking around the
floor, networking and then I gotsome collapse planned.
(03:06):
I linked up with the sex work PRgroup and so they're running a
content event that'll probably stop through and get some some.
Yeah, Lola Lola Booty Love will tell me about that.
I wouldn't, if I ever go to thisrock, I wouldn't be down with
that. So I can get behind the scenes,
please and so. And how did you hook up with
them? So actually Jay Playhart has
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been working with them for a while.
And so he said he was going, I, we were planning to go to
Exotica anyway. His birthday is next week while
we'll be in Chicago. And he was like, hey, if you
want to link up, you know, help at the shoot house or whatever,
then we can get some kind of VIPaccess, you know, to Exotica.
So I was like, yeah, I'm down running.
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So kind of recently got added tothe to the Telegram group this
week and they are active over there.
I'm excited already. See, I got to learn a Telegram,
man, can I be missing out like amother?
Hold on one second. I got to turn on the TV
(04:13):
now because and they're like, damn, *** you ain't got this
shit. You got to be the way.
But but yeah, can they will tellme about the content event and a
lot of people actually attend that content event and give and,
and give a lot of, you know, they're getting able to get a
lot of content or what have you.Yeah, it looks like there's
going to be a lot of people there, so I'm definitely excited
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to to check it out and then do some other collabs on the side.
We got some fun stuff planned, so I'm excited.
You know, I never put too much weight into a convention collabs
though, because everyone is everywhere.
So you you get what you get and you come home with more than
what you left with and it's a success.
Yeah, because it's kind of like people partying.
Yeah. And then it everybody want to
(04:58):
try to cram everything in withina like a four day span.
Exactly, Yeah. It's shitty.
Me myself, I'm like with the ageI met now it'll be one shoot a
day 'cause I I ain't your butt no gotcha.
You Remember Me trying to do like 5 shoots a day would be
like. But then you get down to the end
and they can't even perform and stuff.
That's why like I never put too much like as long as I come home
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with more content than I went, some new connections, some new
like, you know, whatever. I don't try to stress too much
about like keeping to the schedule and like pre planning a
bunch of stuff 'cause you can't 'cause everyone's going to
cancel so. And not only that, you'll never
hear anyone talk about networking.
It's always about the content, but never the networking.
(05:41):
It is like these conventions aregreat for networking.
That's a fact. That's a fact that's almost more
valuable than the than the content itself.
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Now people, y'all seen this ladyon the smokers lounge?
Y'all enjoyed her titties and her banter on the previous smoke
room? She is a swinger short in there.
She is one of the IT trendsetters when it comes to
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content creation. Yeah, she was doing it before
the fucking cool people. She was doing it before the damn
pandemic. You got me.
She's gorgeous, she's sexy, she's nasty, she's freaky, and
she's cool as a fan. I'm talking about none of her in
the star. Savannah Star.
(07:50):
Say hello again. Hi.
Hi, everybody. I'm definitely excited to be
back so. So before we go into you going
to the UK because they they actually, you will play hard,
y'all really go to that UK? God dig it.
I am jealous. I want to go to England,
Scotland. So got them back.
(08:10):
But you know, I thought it'd be an injured conversation 'cause
you're a business owner like myself, content, whatever.
Recently, Adam, 22, talked aboutand opened up about his company
Going Broke. Now we're in the business where
people come in thinking 1 is a lot of money and but not
(08:37):
thinking long term, not thinkingthings change.
That's a fact. You know, period.
And I thought it would be a great time to discuss on the
porn side of y'all people. So how many people got rude
awakening in this business afterthe pandemic was over?
I think a lot and people continue to get a rude awakening
(09:01):
as it it is an ever changing game and you got to adapt to
what's what's working. Also, you know, people aren't
just sitting at home anymore subscribing to your only fans.
You know that you got to you gotto reach them where they're at
and it's that's not where it's at so much.
You know, there's still people that have great success on fan
(09:24):
sites and you know, love to see that, you know, love to support
the the next creator. But for the vast majority of
people, you can't just start an accountant, you know, make
$10,000 a month like it. The rest of us out here, it's
got to got to do things a littlebit differently so.
Yeah, because when when when he was talking about it, it got me
(09:45):
to think I even, you know, did ahad to smoke on it about it that
the pandemic really obscured a lot of people thought process
when it comes to this business coming in one, it seems so cool,
which is cool, don't get it twisted, but it it cool in the
(10:08):
way that mother fuckers think they can do what we do.
That's a fact, Yeah. But the actual, like, work
behind it, you know, you didn't,I guess you didn't have to put
in as much as much effort duringthat time.
Like you could, you know, kind of get out there that you were
doing content. And like I said, people didn't
(10:30):
have nothing else to do, so theywould flood to subscribe.
And that's just not the case anymore.
And you can really see the people that started before the
pandemic and how they kind of stayed with like a consistent
business model. And the ones and you know,
they're kind of steady, that steady upward trajectory because
it's been a slow and steady raceversus the people that came in
(10:52):
during and like hit the roof andnow you can see it kind of
falling, falling back down, you know?
Where like some of the girls that would do was so low they
would just so about fetish. Oh, they bought.
They got to dig in their mouth right now.
Yep, that's a fact. That's a fact 'cause you start
thinking what can I do? Like you know, and fortunately
(11:13):
or not, I don't know. We live in a very, our, our
industry is very comparative. So if you see the person next to
you having a little bit of success and they're doing XYZ
and your subscribers are steady falling off, you're going to
start maybe looking to see what that other person's doing a
little bit. And and two also, because even
with me, one of the things I hadto learn was you're going to
(11:37):
lose subscribers and you're going to get subscribers.
Yeah, you can't. You can't keep them all.
You never will, right. Like it's a ever revolving door.
And I even laugh at, you know, there'll be people that'll big
subscribers, they'll subscribe for six months, a year, they'll
fall off. You won't see or hear from them
for six months or a year. And then all of a sudden they're
back like they never left, you know, or sometimes they'll like
(11:59):
be a monthly subscriber. They'll subscribe for two or
three months, they'll leave for a little while and sometimes
they come back, sometimes they don't.
And, you know, just different people, different ways.
And some people will never be monthly subscribers.
They're clip store buyers and they're just, that's what
they're into. And then, you know, also
utilizing tube sites has been a great way to stay successful
(12:23):
about knowing, you know, what topost to where.
So, you know, you don't put everything out there for free,
but you got to put a little bit because you're getting A, that's
another way to get paid and B, you know, it's another way for
people to figure out who you are.
And, and two, why is it that you, I've been said that the
game is headingtowards.com and streaming.
(12:50):
And the reason why I say that I'm actually this because it's
something that you said and I want you to kind of smile on it
is the clip site. Excuse me, the clip sites, these
fan sites or what have you, Are they starting to run their
course a little bit now? See, for me, like fan sites have
never been like my number one focus or my number one revenue
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source, like only fans, fans, the loyal fans.
I got them when they got popularand I do have some great fans
over there and have some great interaction on those fan sites.
But for me, that's never been where my like number one source
came from. And I I feel like from talking
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to people, the people that it was their number one source, it
is falling off. I think a lot of it is because,
you know, it used to only be only fans and now we have to
talk about loyal fans and fans. Lee So the the content creators,
you know, aren't always sure exactly where to post and the
fans aren't exactly sure where to find their creators and just
for fans and there's a lot of them, you know what all the
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different ones and then you know, those sites have different
different things that they allowand different things they don't
allow. And a lot of us, as we got more
comfortable during more extreme content, the fan sites are the
most strict on that, on the moreextreme stuff.
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So I'm like, am I going to stop shooting what I like or am I
going to find somewhere that like allows it to be posted, you
know? But then again, you know, people
got to know where to find Jill. For me, it's always been a
numbers game. So if I have the most content in
the most places, at the end of the month when everything, when
all the piles are collected, they become the pile that I
(14:42):
wanted to be. But you know, this pile over
here is, you know, decent and this one's not.
So, you know, this one's kind ofsmall and this one's pretty big
and this one. But at the end of the month when
it. All see, all adds up together.
That's why I said I've never hadfive chicks in one.
Right. You know, hands down and two,
you would think anything in age ladies and gents will understand
(15:04):
how this fan base work because especially this is the 100.
It's probably whether it's across the board.
Gay, LBGT to sis, straight, gay,whatever. 90 if not 95% male.
Absolutely. No matter where where creatures
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are having and you kind of kind of got to have those sites
because some of them fuckers won't go to the other side.
They're staying on that. Sheet, that's a fact.
I'll give you a great example ofhow I know that people are
creatures of habit and they choose where they're going to
shop. So currently this month I have a
(15:47):
video that I'm not in that I produced, so I own it.
It did. It's over 2 million views on
xvideos, so it's a good piece ofit.
Not the whole video, but like 12minutes of a 22 minute.
Video, yeah, so people can understand X videos you had.
In order to actually make money off the views, it has to be 10
(16:08):
minutes or more. Yes, yes, yes.
So yeah, so it's like 12 minutesof a 21 minute video, but even
the full version that's on X videos red.
So on the premium version of X videos, it's got a couple 1000
views. Like this video did very well on
X videos, right? Yesterday I sold 6 copies of the
(16:30):
same video on many vids for 30 bucks, right?
So like 2 million people have seen it for free or seen most of
it for free. However, six people still bought
it yesterday at top dollar. So people are going to watch
content where they're going to watch content, and very few
(16:51):
people kind of detour away from where they go when they're ready
to, you know, you know. And see 2 whatever.
The consumer content they're going to go to.
What they do is that I hear guys, I don't hear this too
much, but for females they have an issue with putting their
(17:12):
stuff up on the two side for free it and not understanding
that once again all these tubes like you can make money off the
viewership. No Spotify or YouTube.
Why girls are so hesitant about that?
I I think. Good money stream.
They think it it waters down their brand.
(17:34):
So like if you can see all my videos for free, why are you
going to subscribe to me? However, if you have enough
content, you put you know, it's getting different content at
different times. But also, like I said, the 11:50
minute for edited down version, however many people are going to
see that and be like, oh, Savannah, I like that girl.
Let me go see where I can find her.
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Or, you know, Savannah was on a video with Vicki.
Let me go see who's this Vicki girl.
Let me go see if I can find her.And I don't know, you got to
meet people where they're at, right?
So I it's, there's so much exposure and like you said, you
get paid off of those tube sitesand.
(18:17):
People all the time. I'm a component even though X
videos fuck with me shit. Yeah.
Long as some of my shit is updated I can make some butt off
of dealership. I'm good.
It's right. Still seeing them have a check
of money. Right, yeah, people get so
annoyed about, you know, there'sjust this week we've I've gotten
4 takedown requests or models reached out to me, asked me to
(18:39):
remove their content off tube sites that we had shot
previously. And I'm just gonna I, I tell you
like I tell them, you know, you signed a model release.
These are platforms that I utilize.
There was no stipulations discussed at the time when we
shot the content. I don't take it down.
Very, very few exceptions. There have been a valid reason
(19:02):
here or there, but for the most part I don't take content down
like. And and to me, I'm going to say
this again, women, y'all the worst winners ever.
Because no matter what, you're going to make more money than
the guys. And once again, it takes more
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than one scene to make a check. Absolutely, until it's another
game. The more content you have and
the more places, the better you are.
At the end of the month when allyour piles come together, that's
you're. You're better off like.
Because if you want to be honest, I got the same shit on
like 5 different goddamn sites and it sells on all five of
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those sites. Absolutely, because like we were
talking about, people are going to watch content where they
watch content and so you got to meet them where they're at.
Like some people are avid minivids or clips for sale or
only fans or X videos or. Or fat pals or whatever it is,
that's where they go. And so it's going to be a
different audience on each of those different places.
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Yeah, and see that because everypoint where I got to put this,
that's the reason why. And also too, I think the fan
base are getting tired of the paywall because if you were 100
too many times is a crapshoot. Yeah, because you don't know
(20:32):
what you're necessarily getting.And then you got these girls
that put that their six minute garbage up and then the guy said
because people you why do peoplethink that dude don't like link
with their video? You know I don't couldn't tell
(20:53):
y'all. I will tell you like I like, you
know, like you'll go to, I'll goto somebody's profile or
occasionally even subscribe to someone's profile and like, it's
almost like upsetting because I'm like, I feel like they're
like trying to like rob the consumer, which makes the
consumer trust someone like me less, right?
Like so when I say I have full videos on my wall or whatever,
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it completely unlocked after thesub fee.
But like she says that too and she doesn't or you know, it's
like you said, it's garbage. It's this mumble jumble, not
quality contact garbage. Because I don't think any time
in history, the most I might have heard the critique of porn
(21:40):
was that it looked with with with two faith.
Now it's they're saying it's boring.
Yeah. And the point is dominating
right now, people. It's not the shit that we do.
No, it's the only fan style, ladies and gentlemen.
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Yeah, you know how many times, like I almost like there's lots
of times I shoot scenes in two different versions.
I have my cell phone on the sametripod with the light behind it
that it's on right now. And then on the side, you know,
then we got the cameraman angle as well because I like quality
stuff. But sometimes you need that, you
(22:23):
know, the homemade amateur only fans, you know, whatever feel.
Kicked out of these I believe inbalance.
Balance in all parts of life. You, you have both because one,
once again, the whole kid is shehas to be my fantasy.
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That's what you're supposed to spend money on.
Right. I fantasize about Savannah Star
sucking my Dick. I took off in the bathroom.
All the couch in the bed. Some of y'all fucking do it at
work but anyway, right? I think too, you know, like you
said, it's about balance, like, and, and it depends on the theme
type, like if it's a more thought out, like put together a
(23:10):
scene like you're going to know.But if it's a homemade behind
the scenes, random swinger partyhookup, like I usually put that
in the title. So you know right away that
like, hey, this is going to be the camera works going to be a
little shaky. It's going to be a little dark,
maybe 'cause this was just on some after hours, like playing
around, we pulled out a a phone type content.
(23:31):
This isn't, you know, there's nolights, you know, or whatever,
or you can see the light stand because we didn't care at that
point or whatever it is. But see, how can I put this when
you shoot those type videos, especially with the phone or
what have you on the what we consider now the Amateur Inn,
(23:52):
that's your rarity. Right.
Yeah. These girls, that's their
regular. Yeah, that's true.
You're not wrong. And I don't care what nobody
say, it's not a sustainable business playing in porn.
Yeah. It's not, it's.
Not. It's not because at some point
your fans going to want more. Yeah.
(24:16):
I hate to tell people that they're going to want more you.
Like I said before, even if you do solos, if you need someone
for a decade, that means that you was very vivid with your
solos technique. Right, I was going to say, I bet
it's not the same toy in the same position for a decade.
You know, it's going to be, there's differences to each
thing, whether you're like in a different room or at a different
(24:39):
house or with different kinds oftoys or like, you know,
whatever. Like same thing.
Like my favorite is when people are like, you know, people in
the vanilla world, they're like,oh, you know, I'm just going to
sell feet pics. And I'm like, it's not just
about pictures of your toes. Then your toes are going to be
in peanut butter and then they're going to be in a cake
and then they're going to be in someone's mouth, right?
Like there's a progression. Which would be showing the
(25:01):
bottom of your feed. Right.
Like there's a progression, it starts here, and that's with all
kinds of content. You know, you start a kind of
one side and it's always going to progress.
Yeah, it's. Not surprised about that.
It's like, it's like I hear interviews.
Well, he wanted me to take certain type pictures cause the
(25:22):
pictures that just wasn't itchy and take it and this, this,
this. And she never said what the
couple pictures were, right? Yeah.
But the point being is they gonna want to see you do more
than what you doing. It's basically doing it long
enough. That's the fact.
We always laugh at those girls that like out the gate they're
(25:42):
like triple anal, like blah, blah, you're like, where are you
going to go next? Like what?
What's left? Doing it it the I ain't go fret.
It's like they I don't like this.
I ain't knocking no you ladies, they do that but.
Absolutely not actually. More power to you.
Like you know that you can have everything with your body.
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Off camera, you need to do OK, Do it in a moderational way
'cause you don't want to lose the shock value because you
ain't got no shock value in Year4.
You're four. Like back with Lily that they
got me the field. She got to do gang bangs.
Just it it's and she does so many gang bangs that if she did
(26:23):
a regular boy girl it'll be boring.
Yeah, yeah. Either that like, if that's your
brand, then you're going to haveto, you know, commit to it, you
know? Yeah.
But see, that's why I'm saying we're selling sex now.
We're not selling sexy. That's a fact.
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Because how can I put this a gangbang?
It's a fan, it's a fantasy, but it doesn't benefit the woman.
Yeah, no, like I always say, like you can never look cute
doing it. A gang bang, like there's no,
(27:05):
there's not. I glad.
You said I didn't want to talk like girls will get mad at me.
I look pretty well them Dicks around me.
I'm like. Pretty is not the word.
Like it's hot, don't get me wrong, but it's not, it's not
pretty. It's not sensual.
It's not, you know. Yeah.
It's fun and it's hot, but it's not, you know?
(27:25):
Yeah, because it's it's so people can understand why.
It's because too many bodies. Yeah.
You can't tell a story with 15 dudes, one chick.
Not like that. You can do the little skit
leading into it, but it's it's no attention to detail.
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I didn't. Say there's also like as being a
female in the middle. Like you can't focus on like
camera angles and looking good when there's that many men to
pay attention to. Like it's almost, it's like
sensory overload. Like there's but the last thing
you're thinking about is where the cameraman is and what he's
doing. Where it's like in a boy girl,
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you know, it's more of a performance art or, you know,
just a one boy, one girl it's oreven a girl, girl, whatever.
Two people, even three people. Sometimes it's more of a
performance art than when you start getting to gang bangs and
orgies. Then it's.
Just because you think about it is how can I put this?
(28:35):
You want them to remember you for you, not the gang bangs so
people can understand what I mean by that.
Yeah. It's we remember Marilyn Monroe
because what she was a sexy icon.
We always going to go to MarilynMonroe.
We always for the black folk. We always going to go to Pam
(28:55):
Grier. You feel me?
No matter ageless, timeless, notmy girl Tony Storm.
I love wrestling. Anyway, the point being is
you're not becoming iconic. This is known for sexual act.
It's not going to be as long lasting as such because it's be
(29:17):
honest. The only reason why we even talk
about the gang bang because somebody actually did one and it
went viral, right? Right.
Can y'all name the person that held the record before her?
Before Lily. For Lily I, I have.
No idea. I think it's Amber Sparks,
something like that. She did, yeah.
I was going to say, I'm sure there's there's people out there
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that. Know and then I think something
Saint Claire did 100 but the point being is oh and rebel
rider she. Yeah, Rebel Rider did. 100, you
know. But guess what?
We don't remember Rebel Rider for gangbangs.
No, that's right. When you say her name.
Like I know that she does them, but that's not what she's known
for. Bingo.
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Yeah. So it's kind of like we I think
that is also part of the reason why the, the downturn because
when I see you think about how the sites now we discount how we
do all that. That wasn't current 15.
Yeah, I say 15 years ago. I'm going to say G15 years ago.
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That's they'll allow you to do trial memberships.
If that was the closest you go get to some type of discount.
That bitch was 10. They won't play with that shit.
Oh my God. So we I thought that'd be a nice
little appetizer. So damn.
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Speaking about tariffs and, and we're about to go down and, you
know, being able to change streams.
Let's talk about you going to the UK.
Tell us about this UK trip. I'm super excited.
So Squad Health is like we aboutonce a year independent
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production companies come together and throw a huge shoe
house. So we've done Dallas, we've done
Orlando, the next one is in the UK.
So yeah, we got a bunch of sponsors.
We got some clothing like kind of sponsors that we're going to
be doing. And we have some UK based like
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production companies that are going to come in and do some
paid shoots, of course, lots of collabs.
We're we're also doing an industry mixer for European
talents and US talents to have like a networking night that
we're not shooting content. We're not worried about that.
We're just, you know, meeting each other, trying to, to bridge
the gap between the to content economies.
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Porn star is going to end the tariff war.
Ladies and gentlemen, you heard it first.
Yeah, exactly, exactly. You know, and then I got some on
the back end. There's going to be just like
one off collapse before I leave the UK.
Yeah, Super excited for everything to come together.
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It's been about a year in the making and you know, it
continues to get more and more cool.
Things keep getting added. You know, there's been some
twists and turns along the way, as there always is.
I'm starting to. See a lot of collaboration it it
not just on the play hard on your side, yeah.
But in general with Europe with yeah, in general, yeah.
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One, how is it important for youto get your name over there in
Europe? So we actually are already
working with European distribution companies for like
to get content over there. So as the laws in the US, so it.
Should be shaky. Let's explain the medium.
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DVD fuckers, go ahead. Yeah, so as the the laws in the
United States continue to be shaky and we don't know where
the industry is going to be in the next couple years as far as
what's going to be, you know, legal in the United States.
Cause lots and lots of states, you can already not access porn
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online without age verifying first.
More and more states are adopting that.
So as they do that, then it's going to be illegal.
You know, we can only guess whatthe next steps are, right?
I think it's more important now than ever to get in the eyes of
countries that may not be facingkind of the same conservative
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changes. So get your face, your name, you
know, start to work into to those networks for a long term
success. You know, like we were just
talking about earlier, it's an ever changing game and in my
humble opinion, this is the the next step to continue to be
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successful at the same level andto love continue to level up is,
you know, expanding past the United States.
Yeah, because I honestly like, Ieven think about the music tip.
There were artists from over here that killing it over there.
(34:33):
They couldn't make the Billboardover here, but they like double
board over in England and France, right you?
Know no, it's crazy. There's there's an interview
with Usher that he's like, what song are you tired of
performing? And he's like, well, every small
time I go to the UK, they want me to perform some song.
And everyone in the United States feels like we've never
even heard that fucking song. No it it it's for real because
(34:57):
the one I hate to bust United States bubble.
Not every country in their only fans people.
Not every country is in the whole right.
It it no and and what I mean by not as in content creators, but
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I'm talking about purchase porn from.
Right. No, like, you're right.
Cook for sale still banging overseas.
Absolutely. I, I, we actually, we work with
a broker who secures deals with European based companies that
need that to distribute content just to European markets.
(35:42):
And honestly, like that all equates back because like I, you
know, said, when they see you there, they'll come find you and
your other places to be like, oh, this person's clearly based
in the US. Let me, you know, go search out
where I can find this one personin this bundle of whatever.
Like I said, you know, the the laws and things are kind of kind
(36:07):
of get a little shaky, shaky. Yeah, because see, and even to
the point that DVD's make more money, see that's why when I
hear all these people talk abouthow much money y'all don't know
how many mother fuckers back today did make $1,000,000 porn.
Yeah, and it was. And it was more than y'all
(36:29):
think. Yeah, and I thought, you know, I
still truly believe that like it's possible to make to make
good money in this industry if you know what you're doing good
long term money, sustainable money.
But it's not as easy as startingan only fans and, you know,
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making 100 grand a year, like that's not.
No because it's not even with the M22 sheet he was.
People assume he was making millions with his no jumping and
all of a sudden he got to downsize it even with these
females is making a million nextyear.
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Is it when it drops off? People don't understand the drop
off. It's hard.
That's why like people. Look at me crazy when I'm like I
own close to 2000 videos and that you know, over half of them
are still in process, you know, haven't been put out anywhere.
They look at you wild. I'm like, you know what that
(37:33):
that's like that's job security for me, right?
Like that's so as much as I invest in these events, get the
content on the backside, like itmay be two years or three years
or four years before I put that video out.
And no matter when the other people put it out, 'cause we
just, we've seen that that doesn't matter for shit.
So like they can put it out as soon as they shoot it.
(37:54):
I don't care when I go to put itout, I know that I'm going to
start making my returns on it like, but you know, it takes
time, you know, been doing this for a little while and put a lot
of time, energy and effort into into getting to that.
Because see, the thing about it is that like I tell people, it's
(38:15):
the business change. Like I said, when motherfuckers
came out the pandemic it date, which I never thought this in
any way, shape or fashion that oh, money's going to continue.
You grow after No sometimes it hits and and your business take
a tumble for a second. And I, and I think it's going to
(38:37):
be real interesting what happensas we go into the economy that
we're going into, you know, so besides all the the legal stuff,
then you have, you know, people don't have as much disposable
income as they as they had a couple years ago, right?
So like, you know, when they're stuck when it's sex is always
(39:01):
going to sell, but like knowing kind of the market and.
Where but see but see what this generates special concentrations
you don't understand is when themoney gets tighter now they want
it to look a certain way now exactly it about that got them
only fans look now. Exactly.
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That's where I was going right, like now they're now they're a
little bit more particular wherethose doll where they're going
to spend those few extra dollarsthey got.
And you know, also like understanding that, you know,
some months, if your subscribersare steady going going down,
maybe you dropped that sub rate two or three dollars or
something to bring more value orstart adding additional content
(39:45):
to bring more value to the sub rate that you want to get.
Like sometimes you got to put ina little bit more to get the
same thing out when the world isgoing crazy outside of, you
know, our little bubble. Yeah, because see and and you
also the fact that like I said, you have a extended library of
content and and I always was taught that the key to this
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business is filming the more content.
Content is currency. Works better for you.
Yeah, content is currency for sure.
And the going back say 100 times, the most free game that I
can give people is it's the numbers game, the most, most
content in the most places. That's how you have continued
(40:28):
success. And people look at me crazy.
You know, they're like, someday,one day someone's going to give
me the game. And I'm like, I just gave it to
you. But you got to go do the work to
get there, you know? Now also with you now, like I
said, doing some work in the UK or what have you.
We know we they're going to be in these times will be
(40:50):
introduced over here, but we ain't going to talk about it.
You being introduced over there because the their porn fan base,
community, what have you is way different in America.
Absolutely. Way different, you know.
So for you, it's like, how do you tackle that?
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I think, you know, it's, it goesback to just being open to
exploring new things. So like one thing that I've
always tried to be really good at is if someone asked me to
film something that maybe, and I'm not talking about something
that crosses your boundaries, just something that you maybe
haven't done before or didn't pique your interest, you know,
(41:45):
like a, a balloon, like blowing up balloons or something, right?
Like something that seems silly,but someone asks you to do it,
like just feeling willing to tryit.
And because you don't, you don'tknow.
So when I go over there, it's going to be a huge learning
experience for me. You know, what does work over
here? What are you guys filming?
Is it, it's clearly going to have a different feel and vibe
(42:10):
and whatever to it. So just being willing to to
learn and to grow and to do someof that.
Yeah, like I said, some of the the random little things like
stepping on baked beans that came up recently.
You know what? Baked beans 'cause you know
there's a lot of beans over there.
(42:32):
Like playing in baked beans. I mean but but but Europe is
fetish heavy. They are very fetish heavy and
very. Fetish I think probably
contribute to that because the webcam because you can't so
people understand you can't filmpoint in all over the UK it's.
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Different countries they're. Different webcam in yeah, they
they shit like it's a God damn job.
People that don't know, they clock in and out.
Yeah, taxes. Yeah, facts.
So because of that, like you, they're saying a lot of their
content is more fetish based, which is going to be different.
(43:16):
But you know, it is also exciting to do something, to do
something different than you know, your average everyday
gonzo boy girl. And I mean because, not because,
like I said before, even to the point where I'm starting to see
more of the storytelling. More.
Yeah. More cosplay stuff is starting
(43:39):
to become more more prevalent like this generation of like
gamers and computer people as. Oh, I predict that's going to be
the shit that everybody will tryto do next year.
Yeah, Yep. And some people are going to do
a real good and some people are not So, but that's really, you
(44:00):
know, this new generation as they come up, you know, they
were raised on iPads. So you know, their characters
and stuff. They're very are very important
to them. Yeah, and and Triangle point is
it's cool to see cosplay stuff. Yeah, yeah, it's done well for
sure, for sure. Oh yeah, 'cause I'm, I'm sorry,
(44:21):
I I love to see a good Star Warscosplay with a good lightsaber
fight than the fuck after. Yeah, yeah, that's fun.
The dark side. Yeah, we did a a marvel or G
once and that was really fun, like.
Who was? He, I wish I could tell you I'm
(44:45):
not into, like, I'm not into that kind of stuff at all.
It was some girl that has red hair.
It's either rogue. It wasn't Rogue, she's like a
lesser known character. I have to find the picture and
send it to you. With it, it you got you got
(45:07):
Black Widow. That was all.
I can't even remember what I waswearing in this current moment
that like that's sad but I'm like, I don't even remember what
costume I had on. Yeah, because I I think that in
this at this past era and the era that was in imagination got
lost, it just it was more of consumption and quantity then
(45:35):
quality and imagination. Yeah, yeah.
But yeah. So I like, I first see more of
kind of the imagination stuff coming back and said people
getting more techie and more creative as as AI continues to
grow, you know, we're going to have to continue to, to grow to
be relevant, you know, in a, in an even more technological time.
(46:02):
Oh yeah, it's like I said I'm curious to see where I've been.
This will head because each important like I said I if y'all
knows a lot of us is getting podcasts now also so.
That's true. I like we have the value of
having a podcast. Yeah.
And I like to think it's becauseof me, damn it.
(46:24):
And a couple of other fellows. But definitely my black ass.
You definitely been around longer than most of them.
I will. I will say what lots of people
are popping up now. Like sometimes people be like,
Oh yeah, all these podcasts and I'm like, I, I'm sure that
they're great. Yeah, let's.
Me think about it is is if you understand it's more important.
(46:48):
There ain't no money in it. Yeah.
There, there. There's no, there's no money in
podcasting. You have to find a way to make
money through it. Yeah.
Oh, I know. But yeah, my savvy has a fantasy
football podcast. And so I said that's his passion
project. I call it, you know, yeah, I'm
(47:10):
like, there. There's not a pile for that yet,
but he enjoys it. And maybe one day there will be,
you know, and he plays lots of fantasy football, so, you know,
he can talk forever about it. Yeah, 'cause now I, I wish I
was, I mean only 'cause I get nothing podcast, but not like I
do with the porn. Yeah, that's our worker posters
(47:37):
and some of her podcast stuff onon anything.
I said I don't know that day because they already fuck with
me with other shit. Yeah.
It's a freaking podcast. What the fuck.
But I just know is no, it's just, it's just crazy.
The other thing I'm thinking too, it's funny how the the
(48:01):
people overseas, when they get their asses over here, now we
trying to get their asses over there.
Yeah, Well, I, I think too, you know, with immigration doing all
the crazy stuff too, you know, that's impacting people wanting
to come over more than it did. You know, I definitely have seen
(48:22):
that shift already this year that.
More people are overseas. I I do predict that this
exotica, this might be the last one.
You see a lot of internationals.Yeah.
Because the the tariffs and and all this shit is going on
(48:44):
medically. Yeah, if.
You don't realize, yeah, it affects our business too,
people. It does, or it affects our
business way more than people give it credit for because they
come down the hardest sometimes on, on, on us, which is a whole
another story for another day, awhole another rag, a whole for
(49:04):
another day. Like, 'cause the people that
come down are the people that like us the most, but they don't
want to talk about it, you know?Yeah, no, I, I, I always say it.
Porn and music rules the world. That's a fact 100% and the tube
industries are more closely similar than they are different.
Like I, I equate the porn industry to the music industry a
(49:25):
lot. Like, you know, I feel like
right now we're in the in the era where you don't, you know,
you can be an independent artistand potentially make it.
Yeah, that's. Why I mean.
Start at SoundCloud just like you can start an only fans right
It's. The same thing, yeah.
That's why some of them celebrities started getting only
fans busted open. Yeah.
(49:46):
Yeah, it's it to me. Like I said before, it's even
when I look, when even when I tell people, these people that I
joke. Porn has always been a Guinea
pig for all of the genres. We showed them how to make money
on the Internet. That's the we showed them how to
actually make money with streaming.
Yeah, because we were streaming.Yep.
(50:07):
That was memberships was for, Yep, descriptions.
Funny how we had Netflix where it's Spotify.
The record labels look, listen you.
Can't. You can't tell me that I don't.
DVD Empire and Netflix aren't the same company.
I'm saying right. And then it it, it, we even
(50:30):
showed the record labels how to handle Spotify.
Yeah. Because you know, I mean, these
porn companies had their hands in some of these tube sites and
whatever thing you're not surprised that we all tracted as
over Europe because here the Europeans own American porn
right now. So there you go.
(50:52):
That part they own more and morein America because it's hard.
It's impossible for America. It's it's what he's saying.
It's like this on political. I would say all this, I know I
don't talk political all all these shows too tough.
That might change one day. I don't know, but it's ready.
How we sit here with a tear off the world, but we import more
(51:19):
than we export. You know, I don't usually talk
so much politics on my adult stuff.
Whatever, we're here. You would have to understand how
tariffs work to understand why that's a bad idea and you know,
the person implementing them. I don't, I'm not sure that he
(51:42):
understands. So you know, it's going to be an
interesting couple of. You don't understand what the
tariffs were. You want to know why?
Because soon as they would mention that was the first day
research. I knew what tariffs was in 10th
grade. Right.
They understand they're not good.
Yeah, You know, that's actually how we got thrown into the Great
(52:03):
Depression once, a bunch of tariffs, so.
Is that good? I think we're in for an
interesting couple years in the United States.
Oh no, see Canada said what I'vebeen waiting to hear.
They said well today is recording that they going to
make their own coalition. I'm going to say this again.
The world could shut our asses out and we fuck 'cause y'all
(52:28):
don't know how much shit we get versus what we give.
Right. And people were talking about
like even stuff that's like madein America, let's just say it's
Celsius. Like I drink Celsius all the
time. The company is in Florida, but
they import the cans that they put the soda in or that they put
the energy drink in. So like that's going to go up
(52:51):
when they have to pay. They're not talking about little
artificial flavor and all that. They got to get that from from
from Sweden, right, right. So.
They may put it all together in some little, you know, cute spot
in Florida, but like all of the stuff that came.
In look Ford Mustang all the parts from overseas.
(53:12):
Right. They just build it over here.
Yeah, People are like, oh, manufacturing jobs will come
back when no one wants to work in a factory in America.
So this is not going to end welllike.
No, no, you know. But guess what?
(53:33):
The people that voted for it, voted for it.
You know, This is why I have twointernational trips planned this
year. And, you know, see what's what's
going on. Yeah, it's, it's going to be a
lot of I'm going to do an international trip in the next
three years. Yeah, I made sure that my my
passport got to me, you know, before too many more
(53:55):
restrictions went in on those and I can get out if I need to.
I swear this is going to be an X4 years, so I didn't have this
lady up here for almost an hour.So they start tell everybody
where they can find you, see youand see what you do, what you
(54:16):
do, what you do. So you can find imallmylinks.com
back slash, Savannah Star or I always say, you know, just
search Savannah Star and anywhere that you would enjoy to
watch your content. I bet I have something there for
you to enjoy or. Yes you do people.
And as you can see, she went andshe looked at sexy as fuck.
(54:37):
And I hear my premium smoker saying damn, we wish it was a
Premium Smoke Room show. Well, guess what?
We're going to get her to come back looking sexy just like this
'cause this is a little preview for y'all to subscribe to the
Premium Smoke Room people talking about four premium
podcasts for you to enjoy, plus special events and even go live
on X from time to time. And what happens in the Premium
(55:00):
Smoke Room? The conversation gets more
saucier. The tits pop out, dildos might
pop out, you don't know what might pop out unless you
subscribe and just for you YouTube because y'all said that
I my shit is support sexual gratification.
I don't know how they ain't showing nothing on YouTube, but
(55:21):
I guess you can check out my work in the video store as I
give ladies the work because bigDick is going to sticks.
That's why they used to call me Big country, you feel me?
As well as on Spotify for you people that's over there on
Spotify. I got some Spotify description
over there. You know what I'm saying?
Cheap under $5. Trust me, you enjoy it.
(55:43):
I have had to smoke on it where I give my controversial and
unapologetic and sometimes underpopular opinion about so many
things from porn, politics and so forth.
And Savage Smoke where I talk tothe industry's top male talents
and producers. We give you that real smoke from
(56:04):
a male perspective about our wonderful industry, industry
known as porn and a whole bunch of other stuff that I got over
there for you to binge listen to.
So you got two ways to catch thesmoke.
You can go premium or you can get Savage and come smoke with
me over there. Either way, get the smoke.
So now with that being said, people, 'cause I did something
(56:27):
new, 'cause I do this last time it was on here.
What did we smoke over? What did we learn today, people?
Well, we're trying to get our asses over there to wait where
the Europeans is and and the people of a country, you feel
me? Because the next frontier and
the next step for our business is overseas because there's so
(56:51):
many ways to generate money overseas that we don't do here.
DVDs. Let me break it down to you
people. Instead of you paying let's say
$3 for the subscriber 10, they paying 30, maybe 40, maybe 50
for DVD that may have 5 CDs on it.
(57:15):
Tangible something they can own.You feel me?
I remember one time they said wegoing to own nothing and be
happy about it because technically when you pay for a
movie, do you really own it? You ain't got the physical shit.
But overseas, they still have that market.
Damn it. I wish I had that market my damn
(57:35):
self. You feel me?
We forget that we're in a bubble. the United States, yes,
it's the United States. Everybody wants to come over
here. We, we the cool kids on the
block. I get that.
But the way that we make money, the rest of the world does not.
And it's our job as business owners to learn how to tap into
(57:57):
that money. See, I ain't even gonna lie.
When I stopped making DVD's, that was 75% of my money that
was gone. And I didn't need a 95 back
then. You feel me?
Because DVD's is worldwide. The key is you have to be
(58:19):
worldwide. Also international market.
Being introduced to international market means other
things because you want to know what's interesting about Europe.
They way more free than we are sexually.
That's sponsorship, that's that's brand deals with
(58:40):
clothing. They got language on it that you
can't even understand it as you as you from that country.
I'm just saying it gives you more opportunity.
The biggest problem in this day and era, there's different than
any other era that I didn't, that I didn't live through when
it comes to porn is that girls didn't think about that.
These girls nowadays don't thinkabout the enrichment of being a
(59:03):
world renowned, world known beautiful sex symbol, porn star
influence or what have you. It's more than going to fucking
Dubai, taking some fucking pictures on your Instagram.
It's about developing relationships with people that
ain't from your country, that don't tend to speak your
(59:26):
language, but they do speak the language of business and money.
That's universal, people. Keep that in mind.
So now we in these things all day and every day.
Life is a learning experience. What's the point of the
experience? They haven't learned anything.
Smoke this over. Say goodbye to Savannah.
Bye. Everyone.
(59:48):
We are.
And we alive. Yes, Lord, I swear.
Like I said, like I said before we got on the air.
Every time you come, you come with it like a different look.
You a cat. You a chameleon girl you.
Know, got to keep it interesting.
(00:33):
Yeah, you didn't see I'm fallingoff, People falling off, but I'm
back. See, it wasn't that long.
And how have you been gorgeous? I've been good, I've been good.
So, Dad, how the year been so far for you?
So far so good. I feel like, you know, we're
just kind of getting started for2025 S, yeah.
(00:55):
Sure would. You've been up and down for me
so far. I've walked.
Right now we're recording this. I'm in my birthday month so I'm
turning to the silver age of 50.When's your birthday?
April 21st. OK.
Cut off, OK, right there to go. And Ashley was born at the cut
(01:15):
off, like at midnight. Oh wow.
Yeah, I remember seeing on the birthday I said well, damn.
So I was smoking and then I I I guess it's safe to say that I'm
a Taurus with every traits per SE, right.
So what's been going on you withyou since we last talked since
you was with she was on a premium small room showing them
(01:36):
beautiful titties off what you've been up to what's been
going on? I don't.
You know, like I said, just kindof getting the ears started,
getting ready to go to Exotica next week, and then kind of
getting everything set in stone and getting ready for this UK
event that I'm hosting in July, so.
(01:58):
Oh my God, yeah, he said. Yeah, wait, wait, the UK, but I
think I saw the advertisement. UK Splash UK something.
Yes, Squad House UK. Oh my God, why is everyone
having a slow start to the year?You know, I think that means
it's going to be a really busy summer.
Everyone's starting slow, so that way we can hit the ground
(02:20):
real into the summer. Oh my God because everyone I
talked it was like they really haven't done much yet and they
all are waiting like well exceptfor the ones that might went to
ABN but for the most part that was waiting for Zionica Chicago.
Feels like that's going to be like the kick off to the season.
Oh my God. See, yeah, tell me.
(02:43):
I hate that. I'm not going crack.
That means he's going to be lit.This is like everybody going to
be like, yeah, see, this is starting.
They really trying to get it started.
That's what it seems like. I'm excited.
It's my first exotica in a whileso I'm excited.
Oh my God. So.
So where's your plan for this desire to shoot Booth?
What's going on? You know, walking around the
floor, networking and then I gotsome collapse planned.
(03:06):
I linked up with the sex work PRgroup and so they're running a
content event that'll probably stop through and get some some.
Yeah, Lola Lola Booty Love will tell me about that.
I wouldn't, if I ever go to thisrock, I wouldn't be down with
that. So I can get behind the scenes,
please and so. And how did you hook up with
them? So actually Jay Playhart has
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been working with them for a while.
And so he said he was going, I, we were planning to go to
Exotica anyway. His birthday is next week while
we'll be in Chicago. And he was like, hey, if you
want to link up, you know, help at the shoot house or whatever,
then we can get some kind of VIPaccess, you know, to Exotica.
So I was like, yeah, I'm down running.
(03:49):
So kind of recently got added tothe to the Telegram group this
week and they are active over there.
I'm excited already. See, I got to learn a Telegram,
man, can I be missing out like amother?
Hold on one second. I got to turn on the TV
(04:13):
now because and they're like, damn, *** you ain't got this
shit. You got to be the way.
But but yeah, can they will tellme about the content event and a
lot of people actually attend that content event and give and,
and give a lot of, you know, they're getting able to get a
lot of content or what have you.Yeah, it looks like there's
going to be a lot of people there, so I'm definitely excited
(04:34):
to to check it out and then do some other collabs on the side.
We got some fun stuff planned, so I'm excited.
You know, I never put too much weight into a convention collabs
though, because everyone is everywhere.
So you you get what you get and you come home with more than
what you left with and it's a success.
Yeah, because it's kind of like people partying.
Yeah. And then it everybody want to
(04:58):
try to cram everything in withina like a four day span.
Exactly, Yeah. It's shitty.
Me myself, I'm like with the ageI met now it'll be one shoot a
day 'cause I I ain't your butt no gotcha.
You Remember Me trying to do like 5 shoots a day would be
like. But then you get down to the end
and they can't even perform and stuff.
That's why like I never put too much like as long as I come home
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with more content than I went, some new connections, some new
like, you know, whatever. I don't try to stress too much
about like keeping to the schedule and like pre planning a
bunch of stuff 'cause you can't 'cause everyone's going to
cancel so. And not only that, you'll never
hear anyone talk about networking.
It's always about the content, but never the networking.
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It is like these conventions aregreat for networking.
That's a fact. That's a fact that's almost more
valuable than the than the content itself.
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Now people, y'all seen this ladyon the smokers lounge?
Y'all enjoyed her titties and her banter on the previous smoke
room? She is a swinger short in there.
She is one of the IT trendsetters when it comes to
(07:29):
content creation. Yeah, she was doing it before
the fucking cool people. She was doing it before the damn
pandemic. You got me.
She's gorgeous, she's sexy, she's nasty, she's freaky, and
she's cool as a fan. I'm talking about none of her in
the star. Savannah Star.
(07:50):
Say hello again. Hi.
Hi, everybody. I'm definitely excited to be
back so. So before we go into you going
to the UK because they they actually, you will play hard,
y'all really go to that UK? God dig it.
I am jealous. I want to go to England,
Scotland. So got them back.
(08:10):
But you know, I thought it'd be an injured conversation 'cause
you're a business owner like myself, content, whatever.
Recently, Adam, 22, talked aboutand opened up about his company
Going Broke. Now we're in the business where
people come in thinking 1 is a lot of money and but not
(08:37):
thinking long term, not thinkingthings change.
That's a fact. You know, period.
And I thought it would be a great time to discuss on the
porn side of y'all people. So how many people got rude
awakening in this business afterthe pandemic was over?
I think a lot and people continue to get a rude awakening
(09:01):
as it it is an ever changing game and you got to adapt to
what's what's working. Also, you know, people aren't
just sitting at home anymore subscribing to your only fans.
You know that you got to you gotto reach them where they're at
and it's that's not where it's at so much.
You know, there's still people that have great success on fan
(09:24):
sites and you know, love to see that, you know, love to support
the the next creator. But for the vast majority of
people, you can't just start an accountant, you know, make
$10,000 a month like it. The rest of us out here, it's
got to got to do things a littlebit differently so.
Yeah, because when when when he was talking about it, it got me
(09:45):
to think I even, you know, did ahad to smoke on it about it that
the pandemic really obscured a lot of people thought process
when it comes to this business coming in one, it seems so cool,
which is cool, don't get it twisted, but it it cool in the
(10:08):
way that mother fuckers think they can do what we do.
That's a fact, Yeah. But the actual, like, work
behind it, you know, you didn't,I guess you didn't have to put
in as much as much effort duringthat time.
Like you could, you know, kind of get out there that you were
doing content. And like I said, people didn't
(10:30):
have nothing else to do, so theywould flood to subscribe.
And that's just not the case anymore.
And you can really see the people that started before the
pandemic and how they kind of stayed with like a consistent
business model. And the ones and you know,
they're kind of steady, that steady upward trajectory because
it's been a slow and steady raceversus the people that came in
(10:52):
during and like hit the roof andnow you can see it kind of
falling, falling back down, you know?
Where like some of the girls that would do was so low they
would just so about fetish. Oh, they bought.
They got to dig in their mouth right now.
Yep, that's a fact. That's a fact 'cause you start
thinking what can I do? Like you know, and fortunately
(11:13):
or not, I don't know. We live in a very, our, our
industry is very comparative. So if you see the person next to
you having a little bit of success and they're doing XYZ
and your subscribers are steady falling off, you're going to
start maybe looking to see what that other person's doing a
little bit. And and two also, because even
with me, one of the things I hadto learn was you're going to
(11:37):
lose subscribers and you're going to get subscribers.
Yeah, you can't. You can't keep them all.
You never will, right. Like it's a ever revolving door.
And I even laugh at, you know, there'll be people that'll big
subscribers, they'll subscribe for six months, a year, they'll
fall off. You won't see or hear from them
for six months or a year. And then all of a sudden they're
back like they never left, you know, or sometimes they'll like
(11:59):
be a monthly subscriber. They'll subscribe for two or
three months, they'll leave for a little while and sometimes
they come back, sometimes they don't.
And, you know, just different people, different ways.
And some people will never be monthly subscribers.
They're clip store buyers and they're just, that's what
they're into. And then, you know, also
utilizing tube sites has been a great way to stay successful
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about knowing, you know, what topost to where.
So, you know, you don't put everything out there for free,
but you got to put a little bit because you're getting A, that's
another way to get paid and B, you know, it's another way for
people to figure out who you are.
And, and two, why is it that you, I've been said that the
game is headingtowards.com and streaming.
(12:50):
And the reason why I say that I'm actually this because it's
something that you said and I want you to kind of smile on it
is the clip site. Excuse me, the clip sites, these
fan sites or what have you, Are they starting to run their
course a little bit now? See, for me, like fan sites have
never been like my number one focus or my number one revenue
(13:13):
source, like only fans, fans, the loyal fans.
I got them when they got popularand I do have some great fans
over there and have some great interaction on those fan sites.
But for me, that's never been where my like number one source
came from. And I I feel like from talking
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to people, the people that it was their number one source, it
is falling off. I think a lot of it is because,
you know, it used to only be only fans and now we have to
talk about loyal fans and fans. Lee So the the content creators,
you know, aren't always sure exactly where to post and the
fans aren't exactly sure where to find their creators and just
for fans and there's a lot of them, you know what all the
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different ones and then you know, those sites have different
different things that they allowand different things they don't
allow. And a lot of us, as we got more
comfortable during more extreme content, the fan sites are the
most strict on that, on the moreextreme stuff.
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So I'm like, am I going to stop shooting what I like or am I
going to find somewhere that like allows it to be posted, you
know? But then again, you know, people
got to know where to find Jill. For me, it's always been a
numbers game. So if I have the most content in
the most places, at the end of the month when everything, when
all the piles are collected, they become the pile that I
(14:42):
wanted to be. But you know, this pile over
here is, you know, decent and this one's not.
So, you know, this one's kind ofsmall and this one's pretty big
and this one. But at the end of the month when
it. All see, all adds up together.
That's why I said I've never hadfive chicks in one.
Right. You know, hands down and two,
you would think anything in age ladies and gents will understand
(15:04):
how this fan base work because especially this is the 100.
It's probably whether it's across the board.
Gay, LBGT to sis, straight, gay,whatever. 90 if not 95% male.
Absolutely. No matter where where creatures
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are having and you kind of kind of got to have those sites
because some of them fuckers won't go to the other side.
They're staying on that. Sheet, that's a fact.
I'll give you a great example ofhow I know that people are
creatures of habit and they choose where they're going to
shop. So currently this month I have a
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video that I'm not in that I produced, so I own it.
It did. It's over 2 million views on
xvideos, so it's a good piece ofit.
Not the whole video, but like 12minutes of a 22 minute.
Video, yeah, so people can understand X videos you had.
In order to actually make money off the views, it has to be 10
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minutes or more. Yes, yes, yes.
So yeah, so it's like 12 minutesof a 21 minute video, but even
the full version that's on X videos red.
So on the premium version of X videos, it's got a couple 1000
views. Like this video did very well on
X videos, right? Yesterday I sold 6 copies of the
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same video on many vids for 30 bucks, right?
So like 2 million people have seen it for free or seen most of
it for free. However, six people still bought
it yesterday at top dollar. So people are going to watch
content where they're going to watch content, and very few
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people kind of detour away from where they go when they're ready
to, you know, you know. And see 2 whatever.
The consumer content they're going to go to.
What they do is that I hear guys, I don't hear this too
much, but for females they have an issue with putting their
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stuff up on the two side for free it and not understanding
that once again all these tubes like you can make money off the
viewership. No Spotify or YouTube.
Why girls are so hesitant about that?
I I think. Good money stream.
They think it it waters down their brand.
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So like if you can see all my videos for free, why are you
going to subscribe to me? However, if you have enough
content, you put you know, it's getting different content at
different times. But also, like I said, the 11:50
minute for edited down version, however many people are going to
see that and be like, oh, Savannah, I like that girl.
Let me go see where I can find her.
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Or, you know, Savannah was on a video with Vicki.
Let me go see who's this Vicki girl.
Let me go see if I can find her.And I don't know, you got to
meet people where they're at, right?
So I it's, there's so much exposure and like you said, you
get paid off of those tube sitesand.
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People all the time. I'm a component even though X
videos fuck with me shit. Yeah.
Long as some of my shit is updated I can make some butt off
of dealership. I'm good.
It's right. Still seeing them have a check
of money. Right, yeah, people get so
annoyed about, you know, there'sjust this week we've I've gotten
4 takedown requests or models reached out to me, asked me to
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remove their content off tube sites that we had shot
previously. And I'm just gonna I, I tell you
like I tell them, you know, you signed a model release.
These are platforms that I utilize.
There was no stipulations discussed at the time when we
shot the content. I don't take it down.
Very, very few exceptions. There have been a valid reason
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here or there, but for the most part I don't take content down
like. And and to me, I'm going to say
this again, women, y'all the worst winners ever.
Because no matter what, you're going to make more money than
the guys. And once again, it takes more
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than one scene to make a check. Absolutely, until it's another
game. The more content you have and
the more places, the better you are.
At the end of the month when allyour piles come together, that's
you're. You're better off like.
Because if you want to be honest, I got the same shit on
like 5 different goddamn sites and it sells on all five of
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those sites. Absolutely, because like we were
talking about, people are going to watch content where they
watch content and so you got to meet them where they're at.
Like some people are avid minivids or clips for sale or
only fans or X videos or. Or fat pals or whatever it is,
that's where they go. And so it's going to be a
different audience on each of those different places.
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Yeah, and see that because everypoint where I got to put this,
that's the reason why. And also too, I think the fan
base are getting tired of the paywall because if you were 100
too many times is a crapshoot. Yeah, because you don't know
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what you're necessarily getting.And then you got these girls
that put that their six minute garbage up and then the guy said
because people you why do peoplethink that dude don't like link
with their video? You know I don't couldn't tell
(20:53):
y'all. I will tell you like I like, you
know, like you'll go to, I'll goto somebody's profile or
occasionally even subscribe to someone's profile and like, it's
almost like upsetting because I'm like, I feel like they're
like trying to like rob the consumer, which makes the
consumer trust someone like me less, right?
Like so when I say I have full videos on my wall or whatever,
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it completely unlocked after thesub fee.
But like she says that too and she doesn't or you know, it's
like you said, it's garbage. It's this mumble jumble, not
quality contact garbage. Because I don't think any time
in history, the most I might have heard the critique of porn
(21:40):
was that it looked with with with two faith.
Now it's they're saying it's boring.
Yeah. And the point is dominating
right now, people. It's not the shit that we do.
No, it's the only fan style, ladies and gentlemen.
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Yeah, you know how many times, like I almost like there's lots
of times I shoot scenes in two different versions.
I have my cell phone on the sametripod with the light behind it
that it's on right now. And then on the side, you know,
then we got the cameraman angle as well because I like quality
stuff. But sometimes you need that, you
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know, the homemade amateur only fans, you know, whatever feel.
Kicked out of these I believe inbalance.
Balance in all parts of life. You, you have both because one,
once again, the whole kid is shehas to be my fantasy.
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That's what you're supposed to spend money on.
Right. I fantasize about Savannah Star
sucking my Dick. I took off in the bathroom.
All the couch in the bed. Some of y'all fucking do it at
work but anyway, right? I think too, you know, like you
said, it's about balance, like, and, and it depends on the theme
type, like if it's a more thought out, like put together a
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scene like you're going to know.But if it's a homemade behind
the scenes, random swinger partyhookup, like I usually put that
in the title. So you know right away that
like, hey, this is going to be the camera works going to be a
little shaky. It's going to be a little dark,
maybe 'cause this was just on some after hours, like playing
around, we pulled out a a phone type content.
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This isn't, you know, there's nolights, you know, or whatever,
or you can see the light stand because we didn't care at that
point or whatever it is. But see, how can I put this when
you shoot those type videos, especially with the phone or
what have you on the what we consider now the Amateur Inn,
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that's your rarity. Right.
Yeah. These girls, that's their
regular. Yeah, that's true.
You're not wrong. And I don't care what nobody
say, it's not a sustainable business playing in porn.
Yeah. It's not, it's.
Not. It's not because at some point
your fans going to want more. Yeah.
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I hate to tell people that they're going to want more you.
Like I said before, even if you do solos, if you need someone
for a decade, that means that you was very vivid with your
solos technique. Right, I was going to say, I bet
it's not the same toy in the same position for a decade.
You know, it's going to be, there's differences to each
thing, whether you're like in a different room or at a different
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house or with different kinds oftoys or like, you know,
whatever. Like same thing.
Like my favorite is when people are like, you know, people in
the vanilla world, they're like,oh, you know, I'm just going to
sell feet pics. And I'm like, it's not just
about pictures of your toes. Then your toes are going to be
in peanut butter and then they're going to be in a cake
and then they're going to be in someone's mouth, right?
Like there's a progression. Which would be showing the
(25:01):
bottom of your feed. Right.
Like there's a progression, it starts here, and that's with all
kinds of content. You know, you start a kind of
one side and it's always going to progress.
Yeah, it's. Not surprised about that.
It's like, it's like I hear interviews.
Well, he wanted me to take certain type pictures cause the
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pictures that just wasn't itchy and take it and this, this,
this. And she never said what the
couple pictures were, right? Yeah.
But the point being is they gonna want to see you do more
than what you doing. It's basically doing it long
enough. That's the fact.
We always laugh at those girls that like out the gate they're
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like triple anal, like blah, blah, you're like, where are you
going to go next? Like what?
What's left? Doing it it the I ain't go fret.
It's like they I don't like this.
I ain't knocking no you ladies, they do that but.
Absolutely not actually. More power to you.
Like you know that you can have everything with your body.
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Off camera, you need to do OK, Do it in a moderational way
'cause you don't want to lose the shock value because you
ain't got no shock value in Year4.
You're four. Like back with Lily that they
got me the field. She got to do gang bangs.
Just it it's and she does so many gang bangs that if she did
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a regular boy girl it'll be boring.
Yeah, yeah. Either that like, if that's your
brand, then you're going to haveto, you know, commit to it, you
know? Yeah.
But see, that's why I'm saying we're selling sex now.
We're not selling sexy. That's a fact.
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Because how can I put this a gangbang?
It's a fan, it's a fantasy, but it doesn't benefit the woman.
Yeah, no, like I always say, like you can never look cute
doing it. A gang bang, like there's no,
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there's not. I glad.
You said I didn't want to talk like girls will get mad at me.
I look pretty well them Dicks around me.
I'm like. Pretty is not the word.
Like it's hot, don't get me wrong, but it's not, it's not
pretty. It's not sensual.
It's not, you know. Yeah.
It's fun and it's hot, but it's not, you know?
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Yeah, because it's it's so people can understand why.
It's because too many bodies. Yeah.
You can't tell a story with 15 dudes, one chick.
Not like that. You can do the little skit
leading into it, but it's it's no attention to detail.
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I didn't. Say there's also like as being a
female in the middle. Like you can't focus on like
camera angles and looking good when there's that many men to
pay attention to. Like it's almost, it's like
sensory overload. Like there's but the last thing
you're thinking about is where the cameraman is and what he's
doing. Where it's like in a boy girl,
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you know, it's more of a performance art or, you know,
just a one boy, one girl it's oreven a girl, girl, whatever.
Two people, even three people. Sometimes it's more of a
performance art than when you start getting to gang bangs and
orgies. Then it's.
Just because you think about it is how can I put this?
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You want them to remember you for you, not the gang bangs so
people can understand what I mean by that.
Yeah. It's we remember Marilyn Monroe
because what she was a sexy icon.
We always going to go to MarilynMonroe.
We always for the black folk. We always going to go to Pam
(28:55):
Grier. You feel me?
No matter ageless, timeless, notmy girl Tony Storm.
I love wrestling. Anyway, the point being is
you're not becoming iconic. This is known for sexual act.
It's not going to be as long lasting as such because it's be
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honest. The only reason why we even talk
about the gang bang because somebody actually did one and it
went viral, right? Right.
Can y'all name the person that held the record before her?
Before Lily. For Lily I, I have.
No idea. I think it's Amber Sparks,
something like that. She did, yeah.
I was going to say, I'm sure there's there's people out there
(29:38):
that. Know and then I think something
Saint Claire did 100 but the point being is oh and rebel
rider she. Yeah, Rebel Rider did. 100, you
know. But guess what?
We don't remember Rebel Rider for gangbangs.
No, that's right. When you say her name.
Like I know that she does them, but that's not what she's known
for. Bingo.
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Yeah. So it's kind of like we I think
that is also part of the reason why the, the downturn because
when I see you think about how the sites now we discount how we
do all that. That wasn't current 15.
Yeah, I say 15 years ago. I'm going to say G15 years ago.
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That's they'll allow you to do trial memberships.
If that was the closest you go get to some type of discount.
That bitch was 10. They won't play with that shit.
Oh my God. So we I thought that'd be a nice
little appetizer. So damn.
(30:42):
Speaking about tariffs and, and we're about to go down and, you
know, being able to change streams.
Let's talk about you going to the UK.
Tell us about this UK trip. I'm super excited.
So Squad Health is like we aboutonce a year independent
(31:05):
production companies come together and throw a huge shoe
house. So we've done Dallas, we've done
Orlando, the next one is in the UK.
So yeah, we got a bunch of sponsors.
We got some clothing like kind of sponsors that we're going to
be doing. And we have some UK based like
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production companies that are going to come in and do some
paid shoots, of course, lots of collabs.
We're we're also doing an industry mixer for European
talents and US talents to have like a networking night that
we're not shooting content. We're not worried about that.
We're just, you know, meeting each other, trying to, to bridge
the gap between the to content economies.
(31:52):
Porn star is going to end the tariff war.
Ladies and gentlemen, you heard it first.
Yeah, exactly, exactly. You know, and then I got some on
the back end. There's going to be just like
one off collapse before I leave the UK.
Yeah, Super excited for everything to come together.
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It's been about a year in the making and you know, it
continues to get more and more cool.
Things keep getting added. You know, there's been some
twists and turns along the way, as there always is.
I'm starting to. See a lot of collaboration it it
not just on the play hard on your side, yeah.
But in general with Europe with yeah, in general, yeah.
(32:41):
One, how is it important for youto get your name over there in
Europe? So we actually are already
working with European distribution companies for like
to get content over there. So as the laws in the US, so it.
Should be shaky. Let's explain the medium.
(33:03):
DVD fuckers, go ahead. Yeah, so as the the laws in the
United States continue to be shaky and we don't know where
the industry is going to be in the next couple years as far as
what's going to be, you know, legal in the United States.
Cause lots and lots of states, you can already not access porn
(33:24):
online without age verifying first.
More and more states are adopting that.
So as they do that, then it's going to be illegal.
You know, we can only guess whatthe next steps are, right?
I think it's more important now than ever to get in the eyes of
countries that may not be facingkind of the same conservative
(33:48):
changes. So get your face, your name, you
know, start to work into to those networks for a long term
success. You know, like we were just
talking about earlier, it's an ever changing game and in my
humble opinion, this is the the next step to continue to be
(34:10):
successful at the same level andto love continue to level up is,
you know, expanding past the United States.
Yeah, because I honestly like, Ieven think about the music tip.
There were artists from over here that killing it over there.
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They couldn't make the Billboardover here, but they like double
board over in England and France, right you?
Know no, it's crazy. There's there's an interview
with Usher that he's like, what song are you tired of
performing? And he's like, well, every small
time I go to the UK, they want me to perform some song.
And everyone in the United States feels like we've never
even heard that fucking song. No it it it's for real because
(34:57):
the one I hate to bust United States bubble.
Not every country in their only fans people.
Not every country is in the whole right.
It it no and and what I mean by not as in content creators, but
(35:17):
I'm talking about purchase porn from.
Right. No, like, you're right.
Cook for sale still banging overseas.
Absolutely. I, I, we actually, we work with
a broker who secures deals with European based companies that
need that to distribute content just to European markets.
(35:42):
And honestly, like that all equates back because like I, you
know, said, when they see you there, they'll come find you and
your other places to be like, oh, this person's clearly based
in the US. Let me, you know, go search out
where I can find this one personin this bundle of whatever.
Like I said, you know, the the laws and things are kind of kind
(36:07):
of get a little shaky, shaky. Yeah, because see, and even to
the point that DVD's make more money, see that's why when I
hear all these people talk abouthow much money y'all don't know
how many mother fuckers back today did make $1,000,000 porn.
Yeah, and it was. And it was more than y'all
(36:29):
think. Yeah, and I thought, you know, I
still truly believe that like it's possible to make to make
good money in this industry if you know what you're doing good
long term money, sustainable money.
But it's not as easy as startingan only fans and, you know,
(36:50):
making 100 grand a year, like that's not.
No because it's not even with the M22 sheet he was.
People assume he was making millions with his no jumping and
all of a sudden he got to downsize it even with these
females is making a million nextyear.
(37:10):
Is it when it drops off? People don't understand the drop
off. It's hard.
That's why like people. Look at me crazy when I'm like I
own close to 2000 videos and that you know, over half of them
are still in process, you know, haven't been put out anywhere.
They look at you wild. I'm like, you know what that
(37:33):
that's like that's job security for me, right?
Like that's so as much as I invest in these events, get the
content on the backside, like itmay be two years or three years
or four years before I put that video out.
And no matter when the other people put it out, 'cause we
just, we've seen that that doesn't matter for shit.
So like they can put it out as soon as they shoot it.
(37:54):
I don't care when I go to put itout, I know that I'm going to
start making my returns on it like, but you know, it takes
time, you know, been doing this for a little while and put a lot
of time, energy and effort into into getting to that.
Because see, the thing about it is that like I tell people, it's
(38:15):
the business change. Like I said, when motherfuckers
came out the pandemic it date, which I never thought this in
any way, shape or fashion that oh, money's going to continue.
You grow after No sometimes it hits and and your business take
a tumble for a second. And I, and I think it's going to
(38:37):
be real interesting what happensas we go into the economy that
we're going into, you know, so besides all the the legal stuff,
then you have, you know, people don't have as much disposable
income as they as they had a couple years ago, right?
So like, you know, when they're stuck when it's sex is always
(39:01):
going to sell, but like knowing kind of the market and.
Where but see but see what this generates special concentrations
you don't understand is when themoney gets tighter now they want
it to look a certain way now exactly it about that got them
only fans look now. Exactly.
(39:21):
That's where I was going right, like now they're now they're a
little bit more particular wherethose doll where they're going
to spend those few extra dollarsthey got.
And you know, also like understanding that, you know,
some months, if your subscribersare steady going going down,
maybe you dropped that sub rate two or three dollars or
something to bring more value orstart adding additional content
(39:45):
to bring more value to the sub rate that you want to get.
Like sometimes you got to put ina little bit more to get the
same thing out when the world isgoing crazy outside of, you
know, our little bubble. Yeah, because see and and you
also the fact that like I said, you have a extended library of
content and and I always was taught that the key to this
(40:07):
business is filming the more content.
Content is currency. Works better for you.
Yeah, content is currency for sure.
And the going back say 100 times, the most free game that I
can give people is it's the numbers game, the most, most
content in the most places. That's how you have continued
(40:28):
success. And people look at me crazy.
You know, they're like, someday,one day someone's going to give
me the game. And I'm like, I just gave it to
you. But you got to go do the work to
get there, you know? Now also with you now, like I
said, doing some work in the UK or what have you.
We know we they're going to be in these times will be
(40:50):
introduced over here, but we ain't going to talk about it.
You being introduced over there because the their porn fan base,
community, what have you is way different in America.
Absolutely. Way different, you know.
So for you, it's like, how do you tackle that?
(41:23):
I think, you know, it's, it goesback to just being open to
exploring new things. So like one thing that I've
always tried to be really good at is if someone asked me to
film something that maybe, and I'm not talking about something
that crosses your boundaries, just something that you maybe
haven't done before or didn't pique your interest, you know,
(41:45):
like a, a balloon, like blowing up balloons or something, right?
Like something that seems silly,but someone asks you to do it,
like just feeling willing to tryit.
And because you don't, you don'tknow.
So when I go over there, it's going to be a huge learning
experience for me. You know, what does work over
here? What are you guys filming?
Is it, it's clearly going to have a different feel and vibe
(42:10):
and whatever to it. So just being willing to to
learn and to grow and to do someof that.
Yeah, like I said, some of the the random little things like
stepping on baked beans that came up recently.
You know what? Baked beans 'cause you know
there's a lot of beans over there.
(42:32):
Like playing in baked beans. I mean but but but Europe is
fetish heavy. They are very fetish heavy and
very. Fetish I think probably
contribute to that because the webcam because you can't so
people understand you can't filmpoint in all over the UK it's.
(42:54):
Different countries they're. Different webcam in yeah, they
they shit like it's a God damn job.
People that don't know, they clock in and out.
Yeah, taxes. Yeah, facts.
So because of that, like you, they're saying a lot of their
content is more fetish based, which is going to be different.
(43:16):
But you know, it is also exciting to do something, to do
something different than you know, your average everyday
gonzo boy girl. And I mean because, not because,
like I said before, even to the point where I'm starting to see
more of the storytelling. More.
Yeah. More cosplay stuff is starting
(43:39):
to become more more prevalent like this generation of like
gamers and computer people as. Oh, I predict that's going to be
the shit that everybody will tryto do next year.
Yeah, Yep. And some people are going to do
a real good and some people are not So, but that's really, you
(44:00):
know, this new generation as they come up, you know, they
were raised on iPads. So you know, their characters
and stuff. They're very are very important
to them. Yeah, and and Triangle point is
it's cool to see cosplay stuff. Yeah, yeah, it's done well for
sure, for sure. Oh yeah, 'cause I'm, I'm sorry,
(44:21):
I I love to see a good Star Warscosplay with a good lightsaber
fight than the fuck after. Yeah, yeah, that's fun.
The dark side. Yeah, we did a a marvel or G
once and that was really fun, like.
Who was? He, I wish I could tell you I'm
(44:45):
not into, like, I'm not into that kind of stuff at all.
It was some girl that has red hair.
It's either rogue. It wasn't Rogue, she's like a
lesser known character. I have to find the picture and
send it to you. With it, it you got you got
(45:07):
Black Widow. That was all.
I can't even remember what I waswearing in this current moment
that like that's sad but I'm like, I don't even remember what
costume I had on. Yeah, because I I think that in
this at this past era and the era that was in imagination got
lost, it just it was more of consumption and quantity then
(45:35):
quality and imagination. Yeah, yeah.
But yeah. So I like, I first see more of
kind of the imagination stuff coming back and said people
getting more techie and more creative as as AI continues to
grow, you know, we're going to have to continue to, to grow to
be relevant, you know, in a, in an even more technological time.
(46:02):
Oh yeah, it's like I said I'm curious to see where I've been.
This will head because each important like I said I if y'all
knows a lot of us is getting podcasts now also so.
That's true. I like we have the value of
having a podcast. Yeah.
And I like to think it's becauseof me, damn it.
(46:24):
And a couple of other fellows. But definitely my black ass.
You definitely been around longer than most of them.
I will. I will say what lots of people
are popping up now. Like sometimes people be like,
Oh yeah, all these podcasts and I'm like, I, I'm sure that
they're great. Yeah, let's.
Me think about it is is if you understand it's more important.
(46:48):
There ain't no money in it. Yeah.
There, there. There's no, there's no money in
podcasting. You have to find a way to make
money through it. Yeah.
Oh, I know. But yeah, my savvy has a fantasy
football podcast. And so I said that's his passion
project. I call it, you know, yeah, I'm
(47:10):
like, there. There's not a pile for that yet,
but he enjoys it. And maybe one day there will be,
you know, and he plays lots of fantasy football, so, you know,
he can talk forever about it. Yeah, 'cause now I, I wish I
was, I mean only 'cause I get nothing podcast, but not like I
do with the porn. Yeah, that's our worker posters
(47:37):
and some of her podcast stuff onon anything.
I said I don't know that day because they already fuck with
me with other shit. Yeah.
It's a freaking podcast. What the fuck.
But I just know is no, it's just, it's just crazy.
The other thing I'm thinking too, it's funny how the the
(48:01):
people overseas, when they get their asses over here, now we
trying to get their asses over there.
Yeah, Well, I, I think too, you know, with immigration doing all
the crazy stuff too, you know, that's impacting people wanting
to come over more than it did. You know, I definitely have seen
(48:22):
that shift already this year that.
More people are overseas. I I do predict that this
exotica, this might be the last one.
You see a lot of internationals.Yeah.
Because the the tariffs and and all this shit is going on
(48:44):
medically. Yeah, if.
You don't realize, yeah, it affects our business too,
people. It does, or it affects our
business way more than people give it credit for because they
come down the hardest sometimes on, on, on us, which is a whole
another story for another day, awhole another rag, a whole for
(49:04):
another day. Like, 'cause the people that
come down are the people that like us the most, but they don't
want to talk about it, you know?Yeah, no, I, I, I always say it.
Porn and music rules the world. That's a fact 100% and the tube
industries are more closely similar than they are different.
Like I, I equate the porn industry to the music industry a
(49:25):
lot. Like, you know, I feel like
right now we're in the in the era where you don't, you know,
you can be an independent artistand potentially make it.
Yeah, that's. Why I mean.
Start at SoundCloud just like you can start an only fans right
It's. The same thing, yeah.
That's why some of them celebrities started getting only
fans busted open. Yeah.
(49:46):
Yeah, it's it to me. Like I said before, it's even
when I look, when even when I tell people, these people that I
joke. Porn has always been a Guinea
pig for all of the genres. We showed them how to make money
on the Internet. That's the we showed them how to
actually make money with streaming.
Yeah, because we were streaming.Yep.
(50:07):
That was memberships was for, Yep, descriptions.
Funny how we had Netflix where it's Spotify.
The record labels look, listen you.
Can't. You can't tell me that I don't.
DVD Empire and Netflix aren't the same company.
I'm saying right. And then it it, it, we even
(50:30):
showed the record labels how to handle Spotify.
Yeah. Because you know, I mean, these
porn companies had their hands in some of these tube sites and
whatever thing you're not surprised that we all tracted as
over Europe because here the Europeans own American porn
right now. So there you go.
(50:52):
That part they own more and morein America because it's hard.
It's impossible for America. It's it's what he's saying.
It's like this on political. I would say all this, I know I
don't talk political all all these shows too tough.
That might change one day. I don't know, but it's ready.
How we sit here with a tear off the world, but we import more
(51:19):
than we export. You know, I don't usually talk
so much politics on my adult stuff.
Whatever, we're here. You would have to understand how
tariffs work to understand why that's a bad idea and you know,
the person implementing them. I don't, I'm not sure that he
(51:42):
understands. So you know, it's going to be an
interesting couple of. You don't understand what the
tariffs were. You want to know why?
Because soon as they would mention that was the first day
research. I knew what tariffs was in 10th
grade. Right.
They understand they're not good.
Yeah, You know, that's actually how we got thrown into the Great
(52:03):
Depression once, a bunch of tariffs, so.
Is that good? I think we're in for an
interesting couple years in the United States.
Oh no, see Canada said what I'vebeen waiting to hear.
They said well today is recording that they going to
make their own coalition. I'm going to say this again.
The world could shut our asses out and we fuck 'cause y'all
(52:28):
don't know how much shit we get versus what we give.
Right. And people were talking about
like even stuff that's like madein America, let's just say it's
Celsius. Like I drink Celsius all the
time. The company is in Florida, but
they import the cans that they put the soda in or that they put
the energy drink in. So like that's going to go up
(52:51):
when they have to pay. They're not talking about little
artificial flavor and all that. They got to get that from from
from Sweden, right, right. So.
They may put it all together in some little, you know, cute spot
in Florida, but like all of the stuff that came.
In look Ford Mustang all the parts from overseas.
(53:12):
Right. They just build it over here.
Yeah, People are like, oh, manufacturing jobs will come
back when no one wants to work in a factory in America.
So this is not going to end welllike.
No, no, you know. But guess what?
(53:33):
The people that voted for it, voted for it.
You know, This is why I have twointernational trips planned this
year. And, you know, see what's what's
going on. Yeah, it's, it's going to be a
lot of I'm going to do an international trip in the next
three years. Yeah, I made sure that my my
passport got to me, you know, before too many more
(53:55):
restrictions went in on those and I can get out if I need to.
I swear this is going to be an X4 years, so I didn't have this
lady up here for almost an hour.So they start tell everybody
where they can find you, see youand see what you do, what you
(54:16):
do, what you do. So you can find imallmylinks.com
back slash, Savannah Star or I always say, you know, just
search Savannah Star and anywhere that you would enjoy to
watch your content. I bet I have something there for
you to enjoy or. Yes you do people.
And as you can see, she went andshe looked at sexy as fuck.
(54:37):
And I hear my premium smoker saying damn, we wish it was a
Premium Smoke Room show. Well, guess what?
We're going to get her to come back looking sexy just like this
'cause this is a little preview for y'all to subscribe to the
Premium Smoke Room people talking about four premium
podcasts for you to enjoy, plus special events and even go live
on X from time to time. And what happens in the Premium
(55:00):
Smoke Room? The conversation gets more
saucier. The tits pop out, dildos might
pop out, you don't know what might pop out unless you
subscribe and just for you YouTube because y'all said that
I my shit is support sexual gratification.
I don't know how they ain't showing nothing on YouTube, but
(55:21):
I guess you can check out my work in the video store as I
give ladies the work because bigDick is going to sticks.
That's why they used to call me Big country, you feel me?
As well as on Spotify for you people that's over there on
Spotify. I got some Spotify description
over there. You know what I'm saying?
Cheap under $5. Trust me, you enjoy it.
(55:43):
I have had to smoke on it where I give my controversial and
unapologetic and sometimes underpopular opinion about so many
things from porn, politics and so forth.
And Savage Smoke where I talk tothe industry's top male talents
and producers. We give you that real smoke from
(56:04):
a male perspective about our wonderful industry, industry
known as porn and a whole bunch of other stuff that I got over
there for you to binge listen to.
So you got two ways to catch thesmoke.
You can go premium or you can get Savage and come smoke with
me over there. Either way, get the smoke.
So now with that being said, people, 'cause I did something
(56:27):
new, 'cause I do this last time it was on here.
What did we smoke over? What did we learn today, people?
Well, we're trying to get our asses over there to wait where
the Europeans is and and the people of a country, you feel
me? Because the next frontier and
the next step for our business is overseas because there's so
(56:51):
many ways to generate money overseas that we don't do here.
DVDs. Let me break it down to you
people. Instead of you paying let's say
$3 for the subscriber 10, they paying 30, maybe 40, maybe 50
for DVD that may have 5 CDs on it.
(57:15):
Tangible something they can own.You feel me?
I remember one time they said wegoing to own nothing and be
happy about it because technically when you pay for a
movie, do you really own it? You ain't got the physical shit.
But overseas, they still have that market.
Damn it. I wish I had that market my damn
(57:35):
self. You feel me?
We forget that we're in a bubble. the United States, yes,
it's the United States. Everybody wants to come over
here. We, we the cool kids on the
block. I get that.
But the way that we make money, the rest of the world does not.
And it's our job as business owners to learn how to tap into
(57:57):
that money. See, I ain't even gonna lie.
When I stopped making DVD's, that was 75% of my money that
was gone. And I didn't need a 95 back
then. You feel me?
Because DVD's is worldwide. The key is you have to be
(58:19):
worldwide. Also international market.
Being introduced to international market means other
things because you want to know what's interesting about Europe.
They way more free than we are sexually.
That's sponsorship, that's that's brand deals with
(58:40):
clothing. They got language on it that you
can't even understand it as you as you from that country.
I'm just saying it gives you more opportunity.
The biggest problem in this day and era, there's different than
any other era that I didn't, that I didn't live through when
it comes to porn is that girls didn't think about that.
These girls nowadays don't thinkabout the enrichment of being a
(59:03):
world renowned, world known beautiful sex symbol, porn star
influence or what have you. It's more than going to fucking
Dubai, taking some fucking pictures on your Instagram.
It's about developing relationships with people that
ain't from your country, that don't tend to speak your
(59:26):
language, but they do speak the language of business and money.
That's universal, people. Keep that in mind.
So now we in these things all day and every day.
Life is a learning experience. What's the point of the
experience? They haven't learned anything.
Smoke this over. Say goodbye to Savannah.
Bye. Everyone.
(59:48):
We are.
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