ABM Done Right - A Personal ABM Podcast

ABM Done Right - A Personal ABM Podcast

As ITSMA and TechTarget report that 66% of ABM programs underperform, Kristina Jaramillo (President of Personal ABM) and Eric Gruber (CEO of Personal ABM) talk to sales and marketing leaders about what's working, what's not working, and how ABM needs to evolve. Along with account-based sales and marketing insights from Kristina and Eric, you will learn from leadership at Challenger, Demandbase, Okta, Uniphore, Alyce, Highspot, Gong, Critical Start, Longbow Advantage, Proof Analytics, Narrative Science, and many others. Come back each week for new content as we try to share new podcasts each Monday or Tuesday. This podcast is hosted by Personal ABM. You can learn more by going to PersonalABM.com

Episodes

May 29, 2025 55 mins

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David Anderson (Co-Founder and COO at SellingInnovations) joined Eric Gruber and Kristina Jaramillo to discuss how GTM teams can drive greater stage progression and avoid accounts going dark - an issue that many companies like Uniphore struggle with today. 


Listen to this podcast to see how you can enable buyers to overcome their fear of risk, failure, disruption and spiraling costs. Learn how you can help buyers ...

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On this ABM Done Right Podcast episode, Eric Gruber sits down with Jodie Lail (Revenue Marketing Leader at GE Healthcare) to discuss why teams need a revenue marketing organization if they are engaging in ABM. 

Eric also digs into the GE Healthcare ABM program and discusses what's working for them - and where there are opportunities to have a stronger revenue impact. 



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Twice in a row, Angie Assennato, Senior Director of Growth Marketing at Signifyd, came into a marketing team that was already doing ABM but was getting limited returns.  In this podcast, she discusses with Kristina Jaramillo and Eric Gruber the challenges they had, the reasons behind the failing programs and how intent data/ABM tech were not effectively being leveraged. As leadership at Signifyd also wants to go upmar...

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Marta George, Head of EMEA ABM at Ping Identity, joined Eric Gruber and Kristina Jaramillo on the ABM Done Right Podcast to discuss the change management that needed to happen for them to win with their big bets, what their 1:few and 1:1 ABM program look like for their big bets and how they select their big bets. 

She also talked about the need to scale back to scale up the impact you have on revenue with you...

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Megan Bowen (CEO of Refine Labs) mentioned  on LinkedIn 

"The most important discipline that mid-market and enterprise B2B SaaS companies need to be cultivating is...Change management This is especially true for successful companies that have been around for 1-2 decades, that have been able to more easily manage the recent turbulence in B2B SaaS over the last few years and are still executing an outdated...

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In this ABM Done Right Podcast episode, Peter Mollins (a 2X guest on the podcast and CMO of Nooks) joined Eric Gruber to discuss the "signals" that GTM teams should pay attention to that go beyond intent data. 

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On LinkedIn, Kristina Jaramillo and Eric Gruber have been talking a lot about teams not being ABM-ready. They are simply retrofitting ABM on top of existing processes, content, messaging etc -- and they are not making the changes they need to land and expand high-value accounts.  As a result, they struggle with accounts going dark. They struggle with accounts becoming stuck or disengaged,. They struggle with accounts ...

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At Personal ABM, we believe that ABM is not really about accounts. Everyone focuses on tiering, segmentation and prioritization of accounts but ABM is really about improving the interactions that teams have with the human buyers in the accounts we want to win, protect and expand. It's about improving the account experience for these human buyers.

In this podcast, Sal Vilardo at Maverick Solutions talks ...

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David Keene, the European CMO for Wipro, recently joined Eric Gruber (CEO of Personal ABM) on the ABM Done Right Podcast to discuss his ABM hot takes including:

1. How ABM shouldn't replace demand gen and brand marketing pillars.

2. How we shouldn't think so much about MQLs or even MQAs and how we need a narrow view of the funnel where we are focused on accounts that have a very low chance ...

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Honni Marks (1:1 Strategic ABM Lead at Red Hat) joined Eric Gruber on the ABM Done Right Podcast to discuss:

1. What it means to take a strategic 1:1 ABM approach.
2. The role 1:1 ABM should play in an account-based GTM program and how it should be used to expand key accounts.
3. The executive engagement that's needed for a 1:1 ABM program and how we should enable executive engagement teams.
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Intent should not be your biggest factor when it comes to account selection for ABM. In fact, intent-qualified leads tend to result in lower deal sizes as everyone is reacting to the same signals and predefined needs to the point that it becomes a cost-based decision for buyers. 

By focusing on the ICP, you can identify those accounts that are a best fit, match your business problem profile and are most likel...

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Last time on the ABM Done Right Podcast, when he was at Clari, Tyler Pleiss shared why he was taking a 1:1 ABM approach to penetrate 3 markets that were years behind when it came to RevOps. 

Now, Tyler is at Movable Ink and is shifting the perspective on ABM and the triangle. Listen to the podcast to see how the ABM triangle is no longer relevant. 


 

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October 17, 2024 58 mins

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Most of the ABM content and insights being shared on LinkedIn, on podcasts and in webinars are redundant so we challenged Lindsay Baggett (ABM leader at Tanium) to address some hot takes that others haven't thought about. 

The ABM hot takes that Lindsay and I talk about are:

1. Most organizations are not ABM-ready when they launch their ABM pilot.

2. ABM is not about better marketing. I...

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When you hit the core with the right content and messaging, that's when you'll see win rates jump, deal sizes go higher and the greatest lifetime value increases from your future and existing customers. But most GTM teams do not have a clear understanding of who their core is and why. 

Most ICPs suck as GTM teams do not dig deep enough so that the ICP is predictive of the accounts that will most lik...

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Inside this ABM Done Right Podcast, Eric Gruber (CEO of Personal ABM) talks to Briana Evans (Head of Global Enterprise Marketing and ABM) about their move from ABM to ABX,  

During the conversation, they discussed:

1. How ABM is not about marketing ownership of accounts -- and it's not about marketing supporting sales. It's a cross functional GTM strategy that stretches across the entire GT...

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While teams are increasing efficiency with ABM tech and AI -- sales and marketing effectiveness have not increased at the same rate. Within this podcast, Erin Mills (CMO of Quorum) and Eric Gruber (CEO of Personal ABM) discuss how we should be leveraging these technologies in the right way so GTM teams do not just see efficiency gains. 

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At Personal ABM, we believe that while 1: many and 1: few are an important part of an account-based GTM  - it's not ABM. In this podcast, Kristina Jaramillo, Eric Gruber and Nancy Harlan (former ABM leader at UIPath) discuss what 1:1 ABM is and how it should be used for account expansion. 

Nancy also talks about customer-sponsored 1:1 ABM where you have a champion that will help make the big deal happen ...

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Many GTM teams focus on their TAM and ICP but not the winnable addressable market (WAM) that provides you with the greatest revenue growth. At Personal ABM, we believe that your winnable, addressable market is:

1. The percentage of your ICP that matches a problem profile, they have a strategic priority in place and will provide you with the greatest long-term revenue growth.

2. Your *best* customers ...

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As most  ABM programs deliver minimal improvement to revenue KPIs, Eric Gruber (CEO of Personal ABM) and his guest Alex Pappas (Senior ABM Manager for Venafi) discuss how teams need to stop retrofitting ABM on top of current processes. 

During this podcast episode, you will hear:

1. The ABM challenges Alex faced at both Riskalyze and Venafi and how he gave the ABM programs an overhaul.

2. Ho...

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In this ABM Done Right Podcast, Chris Rack (CEO of MRP) mentioned that most intent is nothing more than intent to learn vs. intent to purchase. By listening  to this episode, you will learn how to differentiate between the two different types of intent -- and what you need to do from an ABM standpoint based on where the buyer is in their journey. 

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