July 2, 2024 • 20 mins
Donald Kendal joined The Shaun Thompson Show to talk about the anti-humanist strain of thought that is pervasive in the modern environmentalist movement. Are climate alarmists motivated by a desire to avert global warming or are they more concerned with unconstrained population growth and human progress?
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Shaun Thompson (00:00):
This is the Heartland Daily Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
From the streets of Melrose Park to the trading
floor of the Merck, he's foughtfor every dollar he's ever
earned. And now with personalliberty and our system of
capitalism under assault inAmerica, He's here to seize back
our rights from the governmentwith a cigar in 1 hand and a
copy of the declaration ofindependence in the other. He's
(00:43):
Sean Thompson, and this is theSean Thompson Show.
Shaun Thompson (00:54):
I've been having my next guest on for more than a
couple of years now. And everytime I have him on, I am
reminded of how often I watchstopping socialism TV. Aside
from his, research work withsocialism research center, he's
a has been the contributor ofGlenn Beck on a multitude of
books from arguing withsocialist to the great reset,
(01:18):
Joe Biden and the rise of 21stcentury fascism. But this is
what he does. He workstirelessly to expose not just
the shortsightedness ofsocialism, but the reality of
what happens when you followthis path of destruction, of
Marxism, communism, socialism,whatever spin you wanna put on
it.
It's all about control andgovernment supremacy. Donald
(01:40):
Kendall, how are you?
Donald Kendal (01:42):
You know, I am doing wonderful. Although, I do
recall I don't know if it was amonth ago or a couple of months
ago when I was on, on with you.We had a bet. You recall this.
This was about who is actuallygonna be on the ballots come
November Yeah.
Whether it was gonna be Trumpand Biden. And I picked that
they were gonna remain on theballot, but after last night's
(02:03):
debate, not medium at least 1 ofthem.
Shaun Thompson (02:06):
Medium rare with a side of asparagus and garlic
mashed. Alright? That's what Ilike. And I won't do anything
but the maybe the New Yorkstrip. In the meantime, that's
easy pickings because Joe Bidenhas been since the eighties what
you saw last night.
A moron who, exists on fraud,lies, and really more of an
actor than Robert De Niro everdreamt of being, although they
(02:29):
both play the same characterconstantly. But that's really
what revealed last night. Andthe other thing that we need to
people to understand is theLeviathan that he represents
really doesn't like humanity toomuch, do they?
Donald Kendal (02:41):
They do not. And that is a perfect segue to talk
about, this anti humanism strainthat is just pervasive
throughout the modernenvironmentalist movement. So
just, just last week, I did awhole podcast where I just
decided, you know, I'm gonna,like, go down this rabbit hole
of antihumanism and see how muchof it is really just fluff and
how much of it is is is true andand, you know, views that are
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held by your kind of whetherit's Al Gore, Greta Thunberg or
anything like that. And what Ifound was pretty astonishing. So
just baseline.
I mean, the anti humanistmovement, they they do have
some, like, nuanced positions onstuff. But what are their kind
of top line beliefs? Is thisrejection of the idea that
humans are inherently superiorto any other forms of life. So
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this is this is kind of, like,the basic backbone of it, and it
basically goes along with thisidea that if humans are
unconstrained, they are justgonna move, like a cancer across
the earth. And as the populationgrows, they'll cut down more
trees, they'll build morebuildings, and that's gonna,
like, drive out all of the otheranimals and other, you know,
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species that have just as much aright to life as humanity.
Shaun Thompson (03:52):
Donald, I was so fortunate to to be exposed to
this kind of ideology decadesago when I was fairly young. And
as I was listening to thesethese fraud speak was amazing to
me, how full of hate andcontempt they were. And yet,
they were always advocating thatphony virtue of altruism, where
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if we only got rid of theserats, the rest of us could all
live peacefully and in harmony.That's a part of their swindle
too, isn't it?
Donald Kendal (04:21):
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. And what's what's
really troubling about this isthat they're using climate
change as an excuse to put uproadblocks in front of they're
just the progress anddevelopment and flourish meant
of humanity.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
And,
Donald Kendal (04:37):
and it's a great it's a great roadblock. Like, it
makes all the sense in theworld. If we're gonna use these
reliable energy sources, it'sgonna pollute the world. The
temperature is gonna increase,and we're all gonna fry to
death, on some global warmedplanet or something like that.
Shaun Thompson (04:50):
The first guy that really implemented it out
out loud and had a nationalplatform was Adolf Hitler. He
felt the same way. And histarget was the Jew and the
capitalist and thenonconformist. It's really the
same thing under this newforthright. So when you dove
into it, I'm hoping you wentback to the early, 19th, the
early part of 19th century,because that's when that
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ideology really started to rearits ugly head.
And the Eugenists and the restof it all came on, and they were
gonna mitigate things. Butthey've produced some of the
platforms of the of the thingsthat government is now, you
know, paying for, like plannedparenthood. Margaret Sanger, she
was another 1 of these.Eugenicists that, you know,
hated. She was a rabid racist,and she created this so that the
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black population would never bemore than 12.
And that was what? In in in 1930something, 1940 something. And
look at, what's the blackpopulation?
Donald Kendal (05:41):
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Then that gets into social
engineering, which is alsoanother whole aspect of the anti
humanist, mindset. But the but 1of the most eye opening things
Speaker 2 (05:53):
to me and this was this was research that actually
Donald Kendal (05:53):
went back several years ago when I was doing it.
Shaun Thompson (05:56):
If you say Gates,
Speaker 2 (05:57):
you owe
Shaun Thompson (05:57):
me dinner. I mean, you owe me dessert too.
Because if you say Gates and youtalk about Bill's father, now
we're now we're on to somethingbecause that's the that's where
it leads, isn't it? But goahead.
Donald Kendal (06:06):
Well, there was a there was a story back in the
late eighties of, 2 scientists.I forget what university they
were doing research for. Butthey thought that they stumbled
upon, the key to unlocking the,cold fusion. So they're they
thought they were, oh, man. Wefigured it out.
We're gonna be able to producethis inexpensive, inexhaustible
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energy. It's clean. It's gonnabe a virtually free. This is
gonna be a new golden age forhumanity. And you would think,
like, oh, that sounds fantastic.
Now that we can use as muchenergy as we possibly want,
pursuing all of these greatthings and all of that, we don't
have to worry about the riversbeing polluted or, you know,
extra C02 in the atmosphere orsomething like that. And this is
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where the environmentalistsreally showed their true colors
because that wasn't theirreaction. Their reaction was
just like Jeremy Ryskin, who wasquoted by the New York, the, Los
Angeles Times saying that it'sthe worst thing that could have
happened to our planet. And he'sgot other people talking about I
think it was Paul Ehrlich sayingthat,
Speaker 2 (07:07):
the
Donald Kendal (07:07):
idea of free energy, free limitless energy
would be like giving an idiotchild a machine gun. These are
actual quotes from these notableenvironmentalists at the time
because the understanding wasthat a, a restriction like, on
reliable energy that's that'skinda put forth by everyone
that's championing this climatealarmist, narrative, that is
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what is going to stop this humangrowth and development. So
without that without that fearthat we're polluting the planet
by producing this energy,there's nothing gonna be
stopping this. So this is theanti humanist mindset that
underlies all of this climatechange narrative. And the
further you look into it, thethe deeper that rabbit hole,
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rabbit hole goes.
And this I just wanna give you 1more example because this 1 to
me was just mind blowing. Backin, like, 2016 or something, I
was trying to figure out whatthe Sierra Club's, stance was on
nuclear power. And it said thiswas me reading right off of
their website. They've changedit since. But reading right off
their website back in 2015, itsays, opposes the licensing,
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construction, and operation ofnew nuclear reactors utilizing
fission process, pendingdevelopment of adequate national
and global policies to curbenergy overuse and unnecessary
economic growth.
Can you believe those words werestrung together? That's only
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words that could be strungtogether in that order by an
anti humanist mindset,unnecessary economic growth. Can
you imagine that?
Shaun Thompson (08:40):
Yes. I do. Because I've III I've seen this,
and this is in the policies ofour government. This is in the
bureaucracies that control andand and really perpetrate
economic suicide intentionallybecause they have a contempt for
their fellow man. And they donot like our specific country,
which is why they worktirelessly to hamstring us.
But I am celebrating for thesevery reasons what the Supreme
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Court just did today, which wasto defeat the the totalitarian,
Chevron deference. I think thisis huge. And if people
understand it, they'llunderstand. And what has to
happen is, for some reason, itit it's a cult, the eco Nazi
movement. It's a cult, and theyall buy the same lies.
And the entire philosophy isbased on lies. It is reminiscent
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of the Third Reich. This isexactly what they did. And they
built this kind of survivalbecause you had to better
society by getting rid of thepeople who didn't wanna be part
of the collective. You know,this all plays into the ultimate
seam theme of of socialism orgovernment supremacy as I refer
to it.
And that is what people need tounderstand. In fact, for some
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reason, gets lost in theargument. Is it because the
other side has a has a stake inthis ideology too? And when that
you look at this, I've gone downthis hole too. It's amazing how
many Republicans, who I like tocall Fabians, also believe in
this.
So to pretend this is exclusiveon the Democrat side, you're
wrong because there's a big partof the Republican party that
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doesn't wanna see any populationgrowth either. Right?
Donald Kendal (10:10):
Well yeah. And you've got, you know, like con
men, like, Joe Biden on stage,kind of giving the modern
interpretation of what we needto do to fight climate change
and this idea that if we justtax the rich a little bit more,
then climate change isn't gonnabe a thing. And then the media
just kind of goes along with it,and they sell all of these,
certain stories without reallydigging into the, into the
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substance and see where, like,it logically the it logically
the logical conclusion of all ofthese things. And another great
example of this was, pre COVID.This is, like, late 2019.
There was a whole rash ofstories and headlines going
around talking about 10, 000scientists have signed on to
this thing talking about howclimate change is a global
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emergency and how we have to dosomething to fight climate
change. That was the headline.That was pretty much the extent
of the stories if you actuallyread the stories. But what's
really interesting is if youwere to actually read the letter
that all of these scientistssigned on to, there is some
pretty bone chilling language inthere, not Yes. Beyond far
beyond the idea of just reducingour, use of reliable energy.
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But it says here under acategory called population, it
says still increasing by roughly80, 000, 000 people per year or
more than 200, 000 per day. Theworld population must be
stabilized and ideally graduallyreduced within a framework that
ensures social integrity. Sothat that big thing that all
these scientists agree. Climatechange, big emergency. It's got
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population control language inthe letter, but the media won't
won't cover that, of course.
Shaun Thompson (11:43):
Well, what's astonishing to me is how much
money flows into theseorganizations. And when you look
at the way in which they all tieback to each other, Bill Gates
senior has been somebody who hasbeen advocating for population
control for many years. He's anAmerican attorney. He he calls
himself a philanthropist. He'sthe architect really of the
Gates Foundation and the taxavoidance scheme where they
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pretend to give money away.
In the meantime, they keep totalcontrol of it. And it's amazing
for how many years at 94 yearsold this rat bastard is still or
or he was promoting up until hisdeath recently. I think he just
died. It was promoting all kindsof population control. And if
you look at the mantra and wherethe money goes into these legacy
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foundations that were started40, 35, 55 years ago, it's
always about this thisundercurrent of we are too
populated.
And for some reason, what getslost in this is you could take
everybody in the planet, stickthem in Texas, and have the
density of Manhattan. Why arepeople afraid to take on this
argument? Why do they buy thelie of the of the of the
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controller gark that wants tocontrol society? I don't
understand why we have such atimid pushback against these
closed minded fascists.
Donald Kendal (12:56):
Yeah. No. It's it's a great question. I think
just because so many of these wewe live in like a sound bite
culture. Right?
Where, you know, even if youturn on Fox News or go through
social media or something, someof the segments on Fox News are
3 minutes long. Right? The thethe things that are being spread
on social media are now likeless than a minute. So you need
to get these points across. Youdon't have time to get in-depth
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in all of these things.
So when you hear the ideas ofclimate change, it's 2 or 3
sentences and we move on. So Ithink that most people, the the
vast majority of the people,aren't aren't, digging into
these rabbit holes like like Iam or like you are. And then
they just hear this kind of,like, this rhetoric kind of flow
across them, and they move alongwith their day. So I think that
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it kinda just comes from a, justkind of an a not knowing, sort
of thing. But, yeah, once you dothe research, I mean, it's
pretty astonishing.
And you mentioned Bill Gates.You know, I come on I come on
your show all the time talkingabout Klaus Schwab and World
Economic Forum. And theirmindset with all of this stuff
is another, layer of this antihumanist agenda, which is this
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idea that there is, that theidea of free will is overstated.
This stated. This this is a antihumanist perspective.
And because of that, peoplepeople's actions, they really
don't have full control overthat. It's all just because of
cultural, stimulus and all ofthat sort of stuff that's
causing people to act this way.So what that mindset leads to is
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that social engineering that wewere just talking about. That's
trying to convince people or orpressure them without the use of
force to act the ways that youwant to. See, that's like the
social credit scores.
That's the ESG that I've come onhere and talked about. That's
the 15 minute cities. That'sCBDCs. All of this is downstream
from an anti humanist mindset.
Shaun Thompson (14:46):
Donald, it's so fascinating because, the way in
which you can always tell ifsomething is a lie or is the
truth is if the amount of actualdata that's been done in the
exploration of the oppositetheory. Right? Because what we
have is this fascism, thiscontrol through a hypothesis of
frauded and cooked data. And thefact of the matter is even if
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people disagree with thatstatement that I just said, the
data you're relying on has beenscientifically engineered to
give you the results that thegovernment wants. The government
data is bought and paid for togive the government control over
every aspect of life.
But what's unarguable, even ifyou disagree with that, you are
living on a planet that isarguably 1, 000, 000, 000 of
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years old. Billions. Any datathat we have has only been
collected since 18/80. That isthe kind of lack of information,
lack of substance that I cannotbelieve so many people. The
vault that really turn intoHarry Krishna's start banging a
frackin tambourine.
I mean, that would be the firstthing when you're looking into
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this as a young mind or somebodywho just oh, is is it really
gonna be 1.5 degrees? You heardthat dimwit and diapers babble
it yesterday in 1 of hisstreaming sentences. Is it
really 1 point well, how do youget to that? How do you get to
it? Well, where's the data?
Well, here it is. Well, it lookslike it only goes back to 18/80.
Where's the other 1000 years?Because I just saw in the news,
they told me it's the warmestsummer in Florida in 500 to a
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1000 years. Well, where's thedata?
Mhmm. Well, we don't have any.For sure. I mean, you gotta be
out of your mind. You couldn'tsell a car in my neighborhood
with this kind of bull dong.
Yet here we are, 1, 000, 000,000, 000 of dollars controlling
industries. People lose theirjobs. People can't get water.
They're blowing up dams. I mean,it's insanity, isn't it?
Mhmm.
Donald Kendal (16:36):
Oh, yeah. It absolutely is. And and I'll and
I'll be a little sympathetic tosome people who are just kind
of, like, ignorant of thesituation. They look into it and
they think that, oh, yeah. Youknow, unchecked, like, human
population, what were we gonnalive in?
1 giant city or something likethat in the future? But I am
absolutely a humanist, and I'mand I'm an optimist when it
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comes to that. And there's thisconcept called the Kuznets
curve, which is basically as thepopulation grows with more
prosperity, they intuitivelytake better, care of their
environment around them. And itmakes sense once you think about
it because if you're strugglingto get food on the table, you
don't necessarily care whetheror not you're pouring the motor
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oil in the in the grass in thebackyard. You're just worried
about making sure your kids caneat.
But once you have a level ofprosperity, you do want nice
parks. You do wanna make surethat there's clean air and great
water and all of that becausethat survival, that bare
subsistence is already takencare of. So that comes comes
naturally with a prosperingnation. That comes naturally
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with, free markets andcapitalism and all of that.
Yeah.
But you just have to think aboutit a
Speaker 2 (17:45):
little bit.
Donald Kendal (17:46):
Well, it's it's it's
Shaun Thompson (17:47):
also such a self defeatist, outcome and
conclusion that people have. Soin the very short you tell
somebody a 100 years ago,explain to them what air
conditioning is. Go back. Justgo back. A 100 year we've got
this air what?
You've got what? Airconditioning. Really? You mean
to tell me I don't have to Idon't have to suffer? I can go
on it.
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Yes. And we got heat. Heat.You've got heat. I mean, think
about this.
And yet all of the new answersare to deny the human being and
to subject himself to theclimates that have killed people
for 1, 000 and 1000000 of yearsto go back and revert back into
the stone age rather than say,boy, if the temperature goes up,
we got air conditioning. Look atyou. It's gonna be great. We can
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handle anything. We're humanbeings, and we kick nature's
ass.
And we can clean the rivers andthe oceans. We can do it all.
Instead of that, it's no. Don'tgive that kid a plastic bottle
and turn the heat up. What?
Or turn the heat down when it'scold and turn the air
conditioning up when it's hot.That's how you can see the flaw
and the self hatred that is veryeasily tapped to versus the
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Yeah. I don't give a rip what itis outside. I'll turn the
fricking air on, morons.
Donald Kendal (18:55):
Yeah. Do you know who's gonna learn that lesson,
real quick? Is all of ourOlympic athletes are gonna be
going to Paris, here pretty soonbecause, did you hear about that
story that France wants to notallow air conditioning for,
like, this idea of virtuesignaling towards being more
green and environmentallyconscious? I don't know how
those athletes those Olympicathletes, muscles are gonna do
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when they do their workouts andall of that and then go back to
rest in their 80 5, 90 degree,
Shaun Thompson (19:23):
I understand. Stupid does, and only the stupid
should participate in thatnonsense anyway. That whole
thing, the Olympics, come on.We've got so so many juice up
athletes. Just release them freeon whole society.
We'll get rid of soccer. It'llbe fantastic.
Donald Kendal (19:36):
Sounds good.
Shaun Thompson (19:37):
You you kidding me? You let you let the the
Raiders loose on a soccer field.Oh, look at you. We'll be
listening to that nonsense.Those guys will be carted off in
an ambulance.
That's what I need. In themeantime, whenever I wanna
really beat an argument ofstupid socialism, I go to Donald
Kendall stops or socialismresearch center, stopping
socialism TV. I'm not kiddingyou on your YouTube channel
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because I watch it a lot. Everytime I log on, boing, there you
are. And I love your guests.
Tell them I love it. I reallyenjoy the show. It's very well
done. I really appreciate thework you do and the data you
expose. Thank you very much,Donald Kendall.
Donald Kendal (20:13):
Thank you for having me on.
This is the Heartland Daily Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
From the streets of Melrose Park to the trading
floor of the Merck, he's foughtfor every dollar he's ever
earned. And now with personalliberty and our system of
capitalism under assault inAmerica, He's here to seize back
our rights from the governmentwith a cigar in 1 hand and a
copy of the declaration ofindependence in the other. He's
(00:43):
Sean Thompson, and this is theSean Thompson Show.
Shaun Thompson (00:54):
I've been having my next guest on for more than a
couple of years now. And everytime I have him on, I am
reminded of how often I watchstopping socialism TV. Aside
from his, research work withsocialism research center, he's
a has been the contributor ofGlenn Beck on a multitude of
books from arguing withsocialist to the great reset,
(01:18):
Joe Biden and the rise of 21stcentury fascism. But this is
what he does. He workstirelessly to expose not just
the shortsightedness ofsocialism, but the reality of
what happens when you followthis path of destruction, of
Marxism, communism, socialism,whatever spin you wanna put on
it.
It's all about control andgovernment supremacy. Donald
(01:40):
Kendall, how are you?
Donald Kendal (01:42):
You know, I am doing wonderful. Although, I do
recall I don't know if it was amonth ago or a couple of months
ago when I was on, on with you.We had a bet. You recall this.
This was about who is actuallygonna be on the ballots come
November Yeah.
Whether it was gonna be Trumpand Biden. And I picked that
they were gonna remain on theballot, but after last night's
(02:03):
debate, not medium at least 1 ofthem.
Shaun Thompson (02:06):
Medium rare with a side of asparagus and garlic
mashed. Alright? That's what Ilike. And I won't do anything
but the maybe the New Yorkstrip. In the meantime, that's
easy pickings because Joe Bidenhas been since the eighties what
you saw last night.
A moron who, exists on fraud,lies, and really more of an
actor than Robert De Niro everdreamt of being, although they
(02:29):
both play the same characterconstantly. But that's really
what revealed last night. Andthe other thing that we need to
people to understand is theLeviathan that he represents
really doesn't like humanity toomuch, do they?
Donald Kendal (02:41):
They do not. And that is a perfect segue to talk
about, this anti humanism strainthat is just pervasive
throughout the modernenvironmentalist movement. So
just, just last week, I did awhole podcast where I just
decided, you know, I'm gonna,like, go down this rabbit hole
of antihumanism and see how muchof it is really just fluff and
how much of it is is is true andand, you know, views that are
(03:05):
held by your kind of whetherit's Al Gore, Greta Thunberg or
anything like that. And what Ifound was pretty astonishing. So
just baseline.
I mean, the anti humanistmovement, they they do have
some, like, nuanced positions onstuff. But what are their kind
of top line beliefs? Is thisrejection of the idea that
humans are inherently superiorto any other forms of life. So
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this is this is kind of, like,the basic backbone of it, and it
basically goes along with thisidea that if humans are
unconstrained, they are justgonna move, like a cancer across
the earth. And as the populationgrows, they'll cut down more
trees, they'll build morebuildings, and that's gonna,
like, drive out all of the otheranimals and other, you know,
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species that have just as much aright to life as humanity.
Shaun Thompson (03:52):
Donald, I was so fortunate to to be exposed to
this kind of ideology decadesago when I was fairly young. And
as I was listening to thesethese fraud speak was amazing to
me, how full of hate andcontempt they were. And yet,
they were always advocating thatphony virtue of altruism, where
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if we only got rid of theserats, the rest of us could all
live peacefully and in harmony.That's a part of their swindle
too, isn't it?
Donald Kendal (04:21):
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. And what's what's
really troubling about this isthat they're using climate
change as an excuse to put uproadblocks in front of they're
just the progress anddevelopment and flourish meant
of humanity.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
And,
Donald Kendal (04:37):
and it's a great it's a great roadblock. Like, it
makes all the sense in theworld. If we're gonna use these
reliable energy sources, it'sgonna pollute the world. The
temperature is gonna increase,and we're all gonna fry to
death, on some global warmedplanet or something like that.
Shaun Thompson (04:50):
The first guy that really implemented it out
out loud and had a nationalplatform was Adolf Hitler. He
felt the same way. And histarget was the Jew and the
capitalist and thenonconformist. It's really the
same thing under this newforthright. So when you dove
into it, I'm hoping you wentback to the early, 19th, the
early part of 19th century,because that's when that
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ideology really started to rearits ugly head.
And the Eugenists and the restof it all came on, and they were
gonna mitigate things. Butthey've produced some of the
platforms of the of the thingsthat government is now, you
know, paying for, like plannedparenthood. Margaret Sanger, she
was another 1 of these.Eugenicists that, you know,
hated. She was a rabid racist,and she created this so that the
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black population would never bemore than 12.
And that was what? In in in 1930something, 1940 something. And
look at, what's the blackpopulation?
Donald Kendal (05:41):
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Then that gets into social
engineering, which is alsoanother whole aspect of the anti
humanist, mindset. But the but 1of the most eye opening things
Speaker 2 (05:53):
to me and this was this was research that actually
Donald Kendal (05:53):
went back several years ago when I was doing it.
Shaun Thompson (05:56):
If you say Gates,
Speaker 2 (05:57):
you owe
Shaun Thompson (05:57):
me dinner. I mean, you owe me dessert too.
Because if you say Gates and youtalk about Bill's father, now
we're now we're on to somethingbecause that's the that's where
it leads, isn't it? But goahead.
Donald Kendal (06:06):
Well, there was a there was a story back in the
late eighties of, 2 scientists.I forget what university they
were doing research for. Butthey thought that they stumbled
upon, the key to unlocking the,cold fusion. So they're they
thought they were, oh, man. Wefigured it out.
We're gonna be able to producethis inexpensive, inexhaustible
(06:27):
energy. It's clean. It's gonnabe a virtually free. This is
gonna be a new golden age forhumanity. And you would think,
like, oh, that sounds fantastic.
Now that we can use as muchenergy as we possibly want,
pursuing all of these greatthings and all of that, we don't
have to worry about the riversbeing polluted or, you know,
extra C02 in the atmosphere orsomething like that. And this is
(06:48):
where the environmentalistsreally showed their true colors
because that wasn't theirreaction. Their reaction was
just like Jeremy Ryskin, who wasquoted by the New York, the, Los
Angeles Times saying that it'sthe worst thing that could have
happened to our planet. And he'sgot other people talking about I
think it was Paul Ehrlich sayingthat,
Speaker 2 (07:07):
the
Donald Kendal (07:07):
idea of free energy, free limitless energy
would be like giving an idiotchild a machine gun. These are
actual quotes from these notableenvironmentalists at the time
because the understanding wasthat a, a restriction like, on
reliable energy that's that'skinda put forth by everyone
that's championing this climatealarmist, narrative, that is
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what is going to stop this humangrowth and development. So
without that without that fearthat we're polluting the planet
by producing this energy,there's nothing gonna be
stopping this. So this is theanti humanist mindset that
underlies all of this climatechange narrative. And the
further you look into it, thethe deeper that rabbit hole,
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rabbit hole goes.
And this I just wanna give you 1more example because this 1 to
me was just mind blowing. Backin, like, 2016 or something, I
was trying to figure out whatthe Sierra Club's, stance was on
nuclear power. And it said thiswas me reading right off of
their website. They've changedit since. But reading right off
their website back in 2015, itsays, opposes the licensing,
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construction, and operation ofnew nuclear reactors utilizing
fission process, pendingdevelopment of adequate national
and global policies to curbenergy overuse and unnecessary
economic growth.
Can you believe those words werestrung together? That's only
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words that could be strungtogether in that order by an
anti humanist mindset,unnecessary economic growth. Can
you imagine that?
Shaun Thompson (08:40):
Yes. I do. Because I've III I've seen this,
and this is in the policies ofour government. This is in the
bureaucracies that control andand and really perpetrate
economic suicide intentionallybecause they have a contempt for
their fellow man. And they donot like our specific country,
which is why they worktirelessly to hamstring us.
But I am celebrating for thesevery reasons what the Supreme
(09:03):
Court just did today, which wasto defeat the the totalitarian,
Chevron deference. I think thisis huge. And if people
understand it, they'llunderstand. And what has to
happen is, for some reason, itit it's a cult, the eco Nazi
movement. It's a cult, and theyall buy the same lies.
And the entire philosophy isbased on lies. It is reminiscent
(09:25):
of the Third Reich. This isexactly what they did. And they
built this kind of survivalbecause you had to better
society by getting rid of thepeople who didn't wanna be part
of the collective. You know,this all plays into the ultimate
seam theme of of socialism orgovernment supremacy as I refer
to it.
And that is what people need tounderstand. In fact, for some
(09:46):
reason, gets lost in theargument. Is it because the
other side has a has a stake inthis ideology too? And when that
you look at this, I've gone downthis hole too. It's amazing how
many Republicans, who I like tocall Fabians, also believe in
this.
So to pretend this is exclusiveon the Democrat side, you're
wrong because there's a big partof the Republican party that
(10:06):
doesn't wanna see any populationgrowth either. Right?
Donald Kendal (10:10):
Well yeah. And you've got, you know, like con
men, like, Joe Biden on stage,kind of giving the modern
interpretation of what we needto do to fight climate change
and this idea that if we justtax the rich a little bit more,
then climate change isn't gonnabe a thing. And then the media
just kind of goes along with it,and they sell all of these,
certain stories without reallydigging into the, into the
(10:32):
substance and see where, like,it logically the it logically
the logical conclusion of all ofthese things. And another great
example of this was, pre COVID.This is, like, late 2019.
There was a whole rash ofstories and headlines going
around talking about 10, 000scientists have signed on to
this thing talking about howclimate change is a global
(10:53):
emergency and how we have to dosomething to fight climate
change. That was the headline.That was pretty much the extent
of the stories if you actuallyread the stories. But what's
really interesting is if youwere to actually read the letter
that all of these scientistssigned on to, there is some
pretty bone chilling language inthere, not Yes. Beyond far
beyond the idea of just reducingour, use of reliable energy.
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But it says here under acategory called population, it
says still increasing by roughly80, 000, 000 people per year or
more than 200, 000 per day. Theworld population must be
stabilized and ideally graduallyreduced within a framework that
ensures social integrity. Sothat that big thing that all
these scientists agree. Climatechange, big emergency. It's got
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population control language inthe letter, but the media won't
won't cover that, of course.
Shaun Thompson (11:43):
Well, what's astonishing to me is how much
money flows into theseorganizations. And when you look
at the way in which they all tieback to each other, Bill Gates
senior has been somebody who hasbeen advocating for population
control for many years. He's anAmerican attorney. He he calls
himself a philanthropist. He'sthe architect really of the
Gates Foundation and the taxavoidance scheme where they
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pretend to give money away.
In the meantime, they keep totalcontrol of it. And it's amazing
for how many years at 94 yearsold this rat bastard is still or
or he was promoting up until hisdeath recently. I think he just
died. It was promoting all kindsof population control. And if
you look at the mantra and wherethe money goes into these legacy
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foundations that were started40, 35, 55 years ago, it's
always about this thisundercurrent of we are too
populated.
And for some reason, what getslost in this is you could take
everybody in the planet, stickthem in Texas, and have the
density of Manhattan. Why arepeople afraid to take on this
argument? Why do they buy thelie of the of the of the
(12:47):
controller gark that wants tocontrol society? I don't
understand why we have such atimid pushback against these
closed minded fascists.
Donald Kendal (12:56):
Yeah. No. It's it's a great question. I think
just because so many of these wewe live in like a sound bite
culture. Right?
Where, you know, even if youturn on Fox News or go through
social media or something, someof the segments on Fox News are
3 minutes long. Right? The thethe things that are being spread
on social media are now likeless than a minute. So you need
to get these points across. Youdon't have time to get in-depth
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in all of these things.
So when you hear the ideas ofclimate change, it's 2 or 3
sentences and we move on. So Ithink that most people, the the
vast majority of the people,aren't aren't, digging into
these rabbit holes like like Iam or like you are. And then
they just hear this kind of,like, this rhetoric kind of flow
across them, and they move alongwith their day. So I think that
(13:38):
it kinda just comes from a, justkind of an a not knowing, sort
of thing. But, yeah, once you dothe research, I mean, it's
pretty astonishing.
And you mentioned Bill Gates.You know, I come on I come on
your show all the time talkingabout Klaus Schwab and World
Economic Forum. And theirmindset with all of this stuff
is another, layer of this antihumanist agenda, which is this
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idea that there is, that theidea of free will is overstated.
This stated. This this is a antihumanist perspective.
And because of that, peoplepeople's actions, they really
don't have full control overthat. It's all just because of
cultural, stimulus and all ofthat sort of stuff that's
causing people to act this way.So what that mindset leads to is
(14:27):
that social engineering that wewere just talking about. That's
trying to convince people or orpressure them without the use of
force to act the ways that youwant to. See, that's like the
social credit scores.
That's the ESG that I've come onhere and talked about. That's
the 15 minute cities. That'sCBDCs. All of this is downstream
from an anti humanist mindset.
Shaun Thompson (14:46):
Donald, it's so fascinating because, the way in
which you can always tell ifsomething is a lie or is the
truth is if the amount of actualdata that's been done in the
exploration of the oppositetheory. Right? Because what we
have is this fascism, thiscontrol through a hypothesis of
frauded and cooked data. And thefact of the matter is even if
(15:09):
people disagree with thatstatement that I just said, the
data you're relying on has beenscientifically engineered to
give you the results that thegovernment wants. The government
data is bought and paid for togive the government control over
every aspect of life.
But what's unarguable, even ifyou disagree with that, you are
living on a planet that isarguably 1, 000, 000, 000 of
(15:33):
years old. Billions. Any datathat we have has only been
collected since 18/80. That isthe kind of lack of information,
lack of substance that I cannotbelieve so many people. The
vault that really turn intoHarry Krishna's start banging a
frackin tambourine.
I mean, that would be the firstthing when you're looking into
(15:54):
this as a young mind or somebodywho just oh, is is it really
gonna be 1.5 degrees? You heardthat dimwit and diapers babble
it yesterday in 1 of hisstreaming sentences. Is it
really 1 point well, how do youget to that? How do you get to
it? Well, where's the data?
Well, here it is. Well, it lookslike it only goes back to 18/80.
Where's the other 1000 years?Because I just saw in the news,
they told me it's the warmestsummer in Florida in 500 to a
(16:17):
1000 years. Well, where's thedata?
Mhmm. Well, we don't have any.For sure. I mean, you gotta be
out of your mind. You couldn'tsell a car in my neighborhood
with this kind of bull dong.
Yet here we are, 1, 000, 000,000, 000 of dollars controlling
industries. People lose theirjobs. People can't get water.
They're blowing up dams. I mean,it's insanity, isn't it?
Mhmm.
Donald Kendal (16:36):
Oh, yeah. It absolutely is. And and I'll and
I'll be a little sympathetic tosome people who are just kind
of, like, ignorant of thesituation. They look into it and
they think that, oh, yeah. Youknow, unchecked, like, human
population, what were we gonnalive in?
1 giant city or something likethat in the future? But I am
absolutely a humanist, and I'mand I'm an optimist when it
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comes to that. And there's thisconcept called the Kuznets
curve, which is basically as thepopulation grows with more
prosperity, they intuitivelytake better, care of their
environment around them. And itmakes sense once you think about
it because if you're strugglingto get food on the table, you
don't necessarily care whetheror not you're pouring the motor
(17:17):
oil in the in the grass in thebackyard. You're just worried
about making sure your kids caneat.
But once you have a level ofprosperity, you do want nice
parks. You do wanna make surethat there's clean air and great
water and all of that becausethat survival, that bare
subsistence is already takencare of. So that comes comes
naturally with a prosperingnation. That comes naturally
(17:40):
with, free markets andcapitalism and all of that.
Yeah.
But you just have to think aboutit a
Speaker 2 (17:45):
little bit.
Donald Kendal (17:46):
Well, it's it's it's
Shaun Thompson (17:47):
also such a self defeatist, outcome and
conclusion that people have. Soin the very short you tell
somebody a 100 years ago,explain to them what air
conditioning is. Go back. Justgo back. A 100 year we've got
this air what?
You've got what? Airconditioning. Really? You mean
to tell me I don't have to Idon't have to suffer? I can go
on it.
(18:07):
Yes. And we got heat. Heat.You've got heat. I mean, think
about this.
And yet all of the new answersare to deny the human being and
to subject himself to theclimates that have killed people
for 1, 000 and 1000000 of yearsto go back and revert back into
the stone age rather than say,boy, if the temperature goes up,
we got air conditioning. Look atyou. It's gonna be great. We can
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handle anything. We're humanbeings, and we kick nature's
ass.
And we can clean the rivers andthe oceans. We can do it all.
Instead of that, it's no. Don'tgive that kid a plastic bottle
and turn the heat up. What?
Or turn the heat down when it'scold and turn the air
conditioning up when it's hot.That's how you can see the flaw
and the self hatred that is veryeasily tapped to versus the
(18:51):
Yeah. I don't give a rip what itis outside. I'll turn the
fricking air on, morons.
Donald Kendal (18:55):
Yeah. Do you know who's gonna learn that lesson,
real quick? Is all of ourOlympic athletes are gonna be
going to Paris, here pretty soonbecause, did you hear about that
story that France wants to notallow air conditioning for,
like, this idea of virtuesignaling towards being more
green and environmentallyconscious? I don't know how
those athletes those Olympicathletes, muscles are gonna do
(19:16):
when they do their workouts andall of that and then go back to
rest in their 80 5, 90 degree,
Shaun Thompson (19:23):
I understand. Stupid does, and only the stupid
should participate in thatnonsense anyway. That whole
thing, the Olympics, come on.We've got so so many juice up
athletes. Just release them freeon whole society.
We'll get rid of soccer. It'llbe fantastic.
Donald Kendal (19:36):
Sounds good.
Shaun Thompson (19:37):
You you kidding me? You let you let the the
Raiders loose on a soccer field.Oh, look at you. We'll be
listening to that nonsense.Those guys will be carted off in
an ambulance.
That's what I need. In themeantime, whenever I wanna
really beat an argument ofstupid socialism, I go to Donald
Kendall stops or socialismresearch center, stopping
socialism TV. I'm not kiddingyou on your YouTube channel
(19:59):
because I watch it a lot. Everytime I log on, boing, there you
are. And I love your guests.
Tell them I love it. I reallyenjoy the show. It's very well
done. I really appreciate thework you do and the data you
expose. Thank you very much,Donald Kendall.
Donald Kendal (20:13):
Thank you for having me on.
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