September 16, 2025 • 40 mins
Grammy-winning artist Colbie Caillat sits down for an intimate conversation about the winding road from MySpace sensation to seasoned songwriter. With her trademark warmth and authenticity, she reveals how music was always coursing through her veins—singing at the top of her lungs every morning as a child and eventually being guided toward songwriting by her father's wisdom that it would "be more meaningful."
The conversation takes us through the unexpected explosion of "Bubbly" that catapulted her career, to touring with John Mayer in 2009, to her transformative relationship with vulnerability on stage. "I was taught to try to be extroverted and don't let anyone know that you're nervous," Colbie shares, describing how writing "Try" became the turning point that freed her from hiding her true self. "I just tell the audience everything on stage now. It feels so nice."
Colbie's upcoming album "This Time Around" (releasing September 26th) reimagines her greatest hits as duets with artists including Maren Morris, Hillary Scott, Walker Hayes, and Mitchell Tenpenny—many of whom had personal connections to her songs before the collaboration. "Mitchell was so cute because when I asked him to sing on 'Realize,' he's like 'that's my favorite song, I sang it in high school,'" she recalls with genuine delight. The album also features three new original songs, including one written with Lee Brice and another featuring Maddie & Tae.
Whether discussing the creative process behind her Grammy-winning duet "Lucky" with Jason Mraz, her Christmas tour with best friend Gavin DeGraw, or the first song she ever wrote ("Someday," which she plans to release someday), Colbie's reflections on her journey offer wisdom for creators at any stage: "Trust yourself and have fun with it and really embrace who you are." Connect with Colbie at colbiecaillat.com to follow her continuing musical evolution.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
you're listening to stories behind the songs with
chris blair.
For more information, check outchrisblaircom.
This week.
I am so excited.
Number one, we're here in thenew podcast room.
Uh, we're really excited aboutthat, uh.
And today's guest is a two-timeGrammy Award winner, a
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five-time Grammy-nominatedsinger-songwriter.
She's got over 25 billionglobal streams, eight top 10
singles with iconic songs likeBubbly, Realize and Try, Colby
Calais and the House.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
How are you?
I'm good.
How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Good.
Thank you so much for coming in.
Yes, yeah, we've had the honorof having you play multiple
times at the Listening Room, andI've just been a fan for a long
time, so I'm just really gladto get to sit down with you.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I know I'm happy to be here and chat.
I've always loved myexperiences at the Listening
Room.
It's just always like a funfamily night, you know night,
everyone's friends, and we getto tell stories and it's it's
really nice.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Yeah, uh, well, let's , let's just dive in.
I always kind of like to startfrom the beginning.
So, uh, take us, take us backto childhood.
And when, when did you realizethat music is what, what you
wanted to do?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
You know, I've been singing since I was a kid.
It was just it felt good Like Iwould drive my family insane
just singing at the top of mylungs every morning.
And my parents were in the musicindustry and so once they could
tell that I could kind of singand that it was something that I
was really passionate about,they they kept giving me the
tools that I needed to maybepursue it so I could have a
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stronger, you know, availabilitywith that.
And so I, you know, they put mein vocal lessons when I was
younger and my dad was likehoney, like I know you love
singing but you should be asongwriter as well.
That's, it's gonna be moremeaningful, and so you should
learn how to play an instrument.
And then he taught me aboutsong structure and I'm so
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grateful I had them to give methat advice early on and the
support and like the knowledgeof of the industry.
So that's, I think I alwaysjust had it in me that I loved
it, but, um, I think thesongwriting aspect really made
me love it yeah, uh, who weresome of your biggest influences
early on?
lauren hill was my favorite she.
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I just loved her miseducationof lauren hill.
Record her singing um his eyeson the sparrow in um, uh, oh, my
god, why am I forgetting themovie?
Um, do you know what movie?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
his eyes on the sparrow uh why am I forgetting?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
well, it'll come to me um.
She was just.
I loved her voice and howeffortless it it felt and
soulful yeah um, bob marley,growing up like with that kind
of music fleawood mac it was allvery acoustic and happy and
positive, and so thatcombination is something that I
felt was embedded in me yeah, soyou, you kind of dove into
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songwriting.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
First, Um, and I've heard you talk about, uh, song
champions.
Um, tell me about, like who,who some of the mentors were.
So you talked about theinfluences.
Um could be the same, but uh,were there other other mentors
that were song champions to you?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I mean those are there, those are all on there.
I say John Mayer was a huge one.
I loved his writing style.
His lyrics were were brilliantand the songs, the music it was
effortless and, um, there wasjust something very calming and,
uh, it just felt very relatable.
Um, and then I got to tour withhim eventually and got to, you
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know, ask him advice on onsongwriting and being in the
studio, and so I think all ofthose people and watching how
they built their careers and andsongwriting and their just
honesty with what they writeabout, that was very important
for me to learn.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yeah, I love that.
How was that like being out onthe road with him?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
It was so crazy.
I mean, at that point in mycareer I felt like anything that
I was wanting to do it happened.
You know, it doesn't alwayshappen that way and it was a
window of time where it justworked out that way and I was
obviously a huge fan of his andum, it was 2009.
I got to go on tour with himthat summer and it was surreal.
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I really couldn't believe it.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yeah, you were.
You were one of the earlyartists to really get a
breakthrough on MySpace, whichis I have so many friends that
started their career like thatand I think it's awesome.
It was kind of like the firsttime that we saw social media
making breaks for people.
What were those early days like?
And I guess like, how do youcompare that to TikTok Instagram
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socials today?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Well, I think the best part about my space and
with all of the other socialmedia outlets now that are
helping artists get found orwhatever whatever it may be, uh
be found, it's, it's chosen bythe fans and by the people, and
I think that was what made it so, uh, meaningful for me.
Uh, because I don't know, younever know what would have
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happened, but I think the way Iwas and the music I was
releasing at that time, uh, itwasn't necessarily what was on
the radio, and so I don't knowif a label would have heard it
and wanted to, you know, um,make it a big thing.
I think that because the fanswere listening to it, it was
like a they had to go with it,and so that's why I got a record
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deal and we went with bubblyand, um, it really helped choose
my path.
Um, so it feels nice whenpeople I see people at my shows
and they've been listening sincethe very beginning.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
It's just uh, it's, it's awesome, and so it still
happens for people to this day.
You know, yeah, you talkedabout bubbly.
That was such a defining songfor you.
Um, do you remember the momentwhere you realized that that
song had changed your life?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah, you know well, when my space, you know,
everyone was adding the song totheir page and I started getting
this insane amount of followers, and then it actually started
getting played on the radio Ithink in like the Northwest, and
I was like, okay, that's cool.
And then the fact that everyonestarted knowing about the song
and it started getting on theradio and I would hear it
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anywhere that I went Like thatwas something that I it was just
bizarre, like I couldn'tbelieve how fast it happened and
the way that it happened.
Just you, I didn't, I wasn'tprepared for it at all.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Yeah, uh you.
You talked about how, howsongwriting was so important to
you.
I want to go back to some ofthe earlier hits realize, try,
um.
Do any of those carry adifferent meaning to you now
compared to when you first wrotethem?
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, you know it's so great, um, when I sing my old
songs now, they have newmeanings for whatever I'm going
through whether it be a new loveor a breakup or something my
friends or family are goingthrough, and if it's weighing on
me at that moment, then I'll.
I'll think about it during thesong Um, and I completely forget
what I wrote it aboutoriginally.
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You know, and try, that reallytransformed how I perform on
stage.
I I think so much of my thebeginning of my career.
I had stage fright and I was soinexperienced with it and I was
just at the time I was taught tohide that I was.
I was taught to try to beextroverted and don't let anyone
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know that you're nervous, andit just felt like it was this
big was.
I was taught to try to beextroverted and don't let anyone
know that you're nervous, andit just felt like it was this
big secret I was having to keepand it made it actually even
harder to perform.
And once I wrote try and Istarted just talking to my
audience and my fans about itand I was like I'm nervous and
I'm I have insecurities and I aman introvert and I just was
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like, oh, I'm actually notembarrassed, I'm like I feel
more freed by it.
And then they felt like theyunderstood me and they felt seen
and it just really now.
I just tell the audienceeverything on stage.
It feels so nice.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Uh gosh, I have you.
I wonder how many people you'vetouched by just being open and
honest like that.
Yeah, I mean, we know so manypeople in the industry, and
there's so many of those, thatwhen they walk out on stage you
would not think that they're anintrovert.
Yeah, they're putting on theshow and all that, but then when
you're back in the green roomor just hanging out, you realize
that they no pun intended, butstay in their bubble, right,
(08:22):
yeah?
no pun intended but stay intheir bubble right, Like they
just.
It's, I think, like the factthat you were so open, like did
anybody ever reach out to youand just say like thank you for
making me feel better for yeah,like yeah I would.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
I would get that all the time with try I everyone
would say not only how much thesong meant to them, because it
helped them feel like, whatevertheir flaws were or the things
that they were so worried aboutor insecure about, they felt
like they, uh, were understood,and that, you know.
It just reminds us all, nomatter who we are male, male or
female, whatever age we all havedifferent things that we
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struggle with or that we'reworried about and we try to hide
or alter.
And, um, when you hear someonebe vulnerable and share whatever
it is that they're insecureabout, or if they're having a
bad day or going throughheartbreak, whatever it may be,
you're like, oh, you're going.
You, you have that too.
Like I'm not the only one.
For some reason, we all thinkwe're the only ones that
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experience any of those feelings.
Um, and so it.
It relates to us all, itconnects us all and it's very
comforting.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
So cool.
Um, let's talk aboutcollaborations.
Um, you've had some amazingindustry moments.
You've gotten to collaboratewith, uh amazing friends and
artists uh Taylor Swift, JasonMraz, Brad Paisley, early on.
Um, lately that we're going toget into 10, penny Walker, Hayes
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, Marin.
Uh, is there a collaborationstory to you that, when you look
back on, it still feels sosurreal?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I mean all of them, because, you know, you usually
start out as a fan of thesepeople.
And with Jason Mraz, I was ahuge fan of his music for so
many years, before I even had mycareer started.
And, um, you know, just to beable to get a call from Jason
and say he wants to write a songwith me and have a duet
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together.
And, uh, even Common I have asong with Common.
I was a huge fan of his, I lovehis music so much and, um, it's
, it's just amazing to be onthat same level, like you don't
ever think you're going to be onthe same level as them for some
reason it's like that impostersyndrome.
and now with the duets, likehaving this song with Maren
Morris I'm I love her voice somuch.
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I think she's one of the bestfemale vocalists ever and, um,
the fact that she wanted to singon my song she actually chose
the song that she wanted to singon and, uh, yeah, those those
kinds of things that I'm likethat really happened.
That's so cool.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Yeah, yeah.
Do you have any favoritememories of writing any kind of
collaboration?
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Ooh, yes, well, you know, what's interesting about
writing Lucky with Jason is thatwe weren't in the room writing
it together.
He had the idea started.
He sent me the idea and me andTim Fagan were on the road
together I was touring and Timwas my guitar player on the road
and we were just sending theseideas back and forth to Jason
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over email, writing out thelyrics, sending some little
audio recordings and so like.
Although it wasn't thisexperience writing in the room
with jason, it was a very coolthing to be able to write like
that and to have that song cometogether and it's kind of in the
theme of our our, you know,career together.
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We're always kind of apart whenwe're singing.
It's really funny, like when weshot the music video when we
won our grammy like we weren'ttogether.
So it's just this like ongoingthing that we're rarely.
It's really funny, like when weshot the music video when we
won our Grammy, like we weren'ttogether, so it's just this like
ongoing thing that we're rarely.
Even when we just recorded thisnew version, he wasn't able to
come to Nashville.
So, it's really funny.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yeah, yeah, um, do you?
What do you look for in a songwhen you're thinking about those
collaborations?
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Um, well, first is voice.
I really love, um, I love whenthere's just a real good singer,
with the tone, theirinflections, their um.
That's really important to meis to and I you know singers,
you just love to get to singwith great singers.
And then if we align witheverything, like if our music
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styles or even if we're onopposite spectrums and you know
it's going to sound like areally cool combination, um, and
then a lot of times there'slike the friend factor, where
you're you, by being in theindustry or living in Nashville,
like you're already friendswith those people and it makes
it even more special to get towork with your friend Um.
But then some of these clubs,like I, became friends with the
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people after these artists andnow they're new friendships,
yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
That's amazing.
Uh, you've got an awesome newprojects coming out that we're
going to talk about in a littlebit.
Um, but let's, let's shift awayfrom the clubs a little bit and
I want to talk about some ofyour earliest memories of
touring, you know, and how youbalance that and the brutality
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of just the nonstop being on theroad and keep your creativity.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Touring was so challenging for me.
I was new to it.
I just going from being homelike living, literally living at
home, working at a tanningsalon to going and being on tour
in a different city, adifferent country for two years
straight, it was uh, it wasreally.
I had a really hard time withit.
I had a stage coach, I had atherapist, I had family and
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friends come out on the road,like I had a lot of things to
help me get through it,basically, um, and so yeah,
you're, you're singing everynight, your voice is getting
tired, you're doing interviews,you're traveling, and all of
this without any experience ofit, and also trying to write,
for now, your second record thatthe record label is, like you
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know, itching to get, and so itwas all just this really
interesting learning experienceand, um, some days were good and
some days were really reallyhard and challenging, and now
I've found a great balance withall of it.
It's been so many years but, um, I don't tour as much.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Yeah that's for sure.
Yeah, yeah, what would be?
Uh, what would you say?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
some of your like favorite memories are from the
road oh, getting to do a tourwith, um, like opening for john
mayer, opening for cheryl crow,uh, doing a co-headline with,
like, gavin de graw, christinaperry, those were.
It's so fun to get to share thatexperience with another artist
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and you're gaining new fans,you're sharing fans, you're
getting to collab on stagetogether, and also, I think,
when it's my own tour, I love myband and I love my crew, but I
can tend to get, you know,introverted, I get a little
hermity and I get a littledepressed on the road, and
having that um side of it toshare with the other artists and
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a bigger group of people, itjust feels like a a big family
unit, and so I really enjoy thatkind of touring.
That's my favorite.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yeah, what about the Grand Ole Opry?
Let's talk about that.
That was cool.
That is such an iconic stage.
Uh, you had your debut withGone West what?
Speaker 2 (15:35):
did that feel like?
Well, I was nervous.
Of course it was a new song, wewere a new band.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
And you know.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I didn't know about the Opry for most of my life
until I moved out here and Ilearned how special it was.
And once I got out there, itsounds well.
First of all, they're thesweetest team of people, like
the.
From the second you pull up andyou have a.
You have your own parking spacethat you get to keep the uh,
you know the, the whole thingand your own dressing room, and
they're so kind to you and Ithink I was so used to even, um,
like doing TV performances.
They're rushing you, they're notthat kind performances, they're
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rushing you, they're not thatkind like, they're just they
kind of just treat you like inand out.
And so it was a really pleasantsurprise to go show up at the
Opry and them just be sowonderful and you'd get to take
your time and you get to soundcheck and, um, the audience is
there, they're so excited to bethere and listen to the stories
and hear the music, so the wholeexperience of it is truly just
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enjoyable.
So that was something I waslike oh, this can be fun, this
can be nice.
So that was cool.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
My wife's uncle has been the stage manager at the
Opry for like over 30 years.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Oh wow, and I've met him.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Yeah, he's it's fun, but yeah, that's, I think, like
the first couple times that youknow I go like just how you can
just feel like you're a part ofthe family from the moment you
walk in the door yeah and sofrom behind stage to the
audience, like truly, becausesometimes when you play a
different a show or a festivalor even a private event, you're
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like do they know my music?
Speaker 2 (17:10):
are they going to be happy?
I'm here and everyone in theaudience is just so happy to be
there and hear.
It's like quiet, like you couldhear a pin drop.
They're listening to everything, so all around you just feel
supported.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah, okay.
Let's talk about September 26th.
Yes, you have your new albumcoming out this time around and
I cannot wait.
When this episode comes out,it's going to be maybe like a
week, week and a half till then.
What inspired you to reimagineall of those songs and do all
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these collaborations?
Speaker 2 (17:47):
I've been wanting to reimagine my old singles for so
many years.
It's probably been like six orseven years that I've been
wanting to reimagine my oldsingles for so many years.
It's probably been like six orseven years that I've been
thinking about doing it.
You know, when I wrote and whenI recorded all those songs, I
was so young, I was in my early20s I feel like I sound like a
baby and there's just lots ofthings that after now, singing
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these songs for almost 20 yearsand maturing vocally and
everything I I really and andproduction style like I, my
style has evolved over the yearsand so I really wanted to make
a updated version of them and itwas a progressive thing that we
made it be a duet album, likeit was really just going to be a
couple duets, and then itturned into made it be a duet
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album, like it was really justgoing to be a couple duets, and
then it turned into every songbeing a duet um, which I will
actually have solo versions ofthese at some point too, but, um
, having the duets was it's justa special um, it brings a whole
other side, a whole otherperspective to the songs, and I,
like I said, I love sharing thestage, I love sharing the room
and getting to sing with othergreat vocalists and great
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artists, and so it just kind ofevolved into that.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Yeah, let's talk about Falling For you with Maren
Morris.
How did that collaboration comeabout?
Speaker 2 (19:04):
So I've met her in the past, my producer, Jimmy
Robbins.
He's worked with her for somany years and it's amazing yeah
, he's amazing.
Um, jimmy and Eric are just,they produce this record.
And when we were brainstormingof people, I was like, oh, I
mean, I would love Maren, butlike she probably can't or maybe
she won't.
And they were like, oh, let'sjust we'll ask her.
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And she said yes, and I wasthinking that she was going to
sing on a different song, likethat was what I, for some reason
, I I didn't think of her forFallen For you.
And when she said yes, um, shesaid, uh, but can I sing on
Fallen For you?
And I was like, oh, that, ofcourse, like the fact that you
have a song in mind that youwant to sing, it made it.
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It made it so great.
And she came in so prepared.
She had this great idea for thebridge, her vocals were
spectacular, her tone of voiceis beautiful and it was just, it
was so great, yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yeah, she is so good.
I, where was this?
I was at City Winery, gosh.
This was years ago.
But when she did her albumrelease it was like an industry
thing, it was like her albumrelease party and Charles Kelly
was there and a couple otherpeople.
But yeah, she came out, it was.
That was the first time that Iheard her.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
It's unreal and I was just like what.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Who is this?
Speaker 2 (20:23):
The power, the tone, everything about it.
It, she's, yeah, she's aphenomenal artist.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Yeah, you mentioned her earlier.
You also have artists likeHillary Scott, chris Young,
walker Hayes how how did youfigure out who was going to sing
on one Did?
Did everybody come to the table, like Maren, and say, hey, I
want to do this song?
Or?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
So some of them.
So yeah, with Hillary Scott,she wanted to sing on try.
I asked her first.
I was like I'm doing thisreimagined album and I'm making
it duets and I would love foryou to sing on one.
And she's like, oh my gosh, mydaughter and I sing Try all the
time.
I was like, do you want to singthat song?
And so that was really coolbecause, again, when it's
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meaningful to them and she alsocame in prepared she had this
beautiful idea for the bridge um, the original of try has no
harmonies on it and now it'slike a full harmony song.
And hillary also has one of myfavorite female voices she.
It's so soft and sweet and hertone is just beautiful and she's
like the most genuine heart.
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We've been friends for most ofmy career, yeah, um.
And then walker hayes um, I, Ithought he would be great for
brighter than the sun, becauseyou know his energy and he was.
He comes into the studio andhe's just so fun.
He's such a great dude likesuch a great guy.
I love that, like how heprioritizes his family and, um,
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I just, yeah, I loved him, likewe became great friends and so
he's like a hype man for thatsong, yeah yeah.
The rest of the songs, I thinkI had to brainstorm a bit and
see who was able to.
Some people weren't availablebecause of their music coming
out or whatever it was, and AmosLee is another one that I'm
really excited about because,I've loved his music forever.
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He is one that I'm like.
I like I listen to hisplaylists on.
You know.
You just ask for that's.
That's all I listened to, andso the fact that he sang and he
had another great thing on thebridge I swear all these people,
these artists came so prepared.
It meant a lot.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
And they added their own personal touch to every song
.
Yeah, I hope you realize thatthey, they, I'm sure every
single one of them like youtalked about, like with with
Maren, for example, like well, Idon't know if she can do it she
probably can't like whatever.
I bet you, every single one ofthem was like I I am being asked
by Colby to be a part of thisand they.
I mean.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
It's got to be such an honor for them yeah, I mean,
well, they, they say those nicethings as well.
And I know Mitchell Timpenny.
Actually he was so cute becausewhen I asked him to sing on,
realize he's like that's myfavorite song.
I sang it in high school like Iknow every harmony, I know
every um he.
And he added oh my god, thatversion is my favorite version
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now.
I just love his voice and, uh,so yeah for, so yeah for him to
be able to to tell me that he'sbeen listening since high school
.
He would just blast it and jamto it in his car Like it was
really cool.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
It's really cute.
That's amazing.
Yeah, Um, you also.
You've you've re-imagined allof these songs, but then you've
also added three new songs.
Talk about those a little bit.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yeah.
So I got to write with LeeBryce.
We wrote a song called Kind ofSingle and another song, live
Without.
That Maddie and Tay are on, andI wrote that with Jimmy Robbins
, eric Arges and Liz Rose, who,liz is my favorite person to
write with because she justfeels like my therapist and I
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feel like I can tell heranything and she gets it, even
even times where she's likehoney, let's write.
I'm like I don't know, I don'thave anything to write about.
She's like there's alwayssomething to say, there's always
something.
She'll just pull it out of me.
And live without was a greatsong because, you know, over the
last few years I've gonethrough one of those on and off
again relationships that cankind of drive you crazy and when
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you're out of it you feel likethe world's ending, like
everything reminds you of them.
You don't see how you're evergoing to recover and then at one
point you do and you feel like,oh not, I'm not reminded of
them constantly and I'm happyabout life and I'm hopeful for
things in the future, and that'swhat we wrote.
Uh, live without about.
It's just like this freeingmoment that you're happy to be
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on your own again.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Um, and then can't say no, with Ryan heard.
Uh, he's just so great, he's anincredible vocalist.
Uh, we got to write that songwith Jimmy and Eric as well, and
um, it's a relatable sentimentwhere you know either one of one
person or the other from therelationship always reaches out
again to rekindle in some waythat we can fall into that trap
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easily, when, when you like,with those songs or other songs.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
What's your writing style?
Are you more lyrics?
Do you have the ideas, vocals,all of it.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
It's different, for every song is different.
Like when I walked into theroom with lee bryce, um, I got
there a little bit after themand they had been talking.
Lee's like all right, jimmy,like what's up with colby is she
?
Is she married?
Is she single?
What are?
What are we going to be writingabout today?
And jimmy's like well, I thinkshe's kind of single.
And there he was, like, oh mygod, we have to write a song
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about that.
So, like that's how that thatsong sparked.
Can't say no with Ryan.
I think it's just somethingthat we were all in the room
talking about, talking aboutthat back and forth that you can
get pulled back in inrelationships and with Live
Without.
That was something that I wasjust like I have to write about.
This feeling of it finallyfeels so freeing.
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So, um, and then usually I'mmore of a melody person.
Um, I'll, I'll write lyrics,but they're they take longer for
me.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
And.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
I, I tend to always love that.
My writing partners like JimmyRobbins he's an incredible
lyricist Jason Reeves,incredible lyricist um, they
just I'll be able to tell themsomething and then they just put
it in this really perfectlittle, little short sentence
that sums it all up.
So clever, um, so it's just agreat teamwork yeah, love that
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yeah uh, what are you mostexcited?
Speaker 1 (26:29):
excited about when this album comes out.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Well, it's been a long process, like it's been
almost two years since westarted it, so it's like that
happens all the time.
We have a fire station rightbehind us.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Literally every single episode.
We've even got to the pointwhere there's episodes where
we're like you just roll through.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
There's the fire truck.
Yeah, we just hey, we, just, wejust hey we.
Background music every singletime.
Yeah, um, what was I talkingabout?
Speaker 1 (26:58):
uh, what is, uh, what's the thing that you're
most excited about?
Speaker 2 (27:01):
yeah, I'm excited for the songs to finally come out.
I feel like I've been having tokeep them quiet and keep them a
secret for so long and um, I'mexcited to share them.
I'm excited for people to hearthese new versions and see what
they think, and um get tohopefully eventually play these
songs with the duet partners atdifferent shows and um playing
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in Nashville or we're trying tobook a put together a show like
that.
Um, we'll see.
It's so hard with everyone'sschedules, but um, that's also
what, but that's also insane itwould be really cool.
Um, I mean it.
It might be impossible, butwe're gonna.
We're gonna figure it out and Ithink that would be a really
fun show to have just all thefriends and all the collabs come
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out, um, so I'm excited forwhat it's gonna, what this album
will bring to the future, yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Yeah, yeah, you also have a tour coming up.
Yeah, a Christmas tour withGavin DeGraw.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Talk about that.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Gav is one of my best friends.
We've been friends for most ofmy career and he's like a
brother.
It's just.
It's awesome, like we're to beable to have that support system
with each other as mutualartists, getting to talk about
the difficulties, thechallenging times in the career
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in the industry and also thesuccess of it.
To get to share that.
It's really nice.
And he's singing on.
I did a cover of Circles onthis new album and Gavin singing
on it.
He has one of the best voicesin the world.
I'm pretty sure Getting to hearhim live, like when he's
playing the piano in my livingroom, it's so incredible.
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Getting a tour with him is somuch fun.
So, yeah, we're going to do aChristmas tour and going to be
on stage together and sing allour songs and sing some
Christmas songs and we havereally funny banter, we bicker a
lot, it's comical.
So it'll be a fun, a little funtour.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Where anybody that's listening.
Where can they go to find outmore information about the tour?
Speaker 2 (29:04):
You can go to my website colbykellecom, or
Gavin's website I think it'sgavindegrawcom and gavin's
website I think it's gavin negradot com and um our social media
outlets every yeah, that's howyou can get tickets.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Cool, yeah, uh, we have.
I've had the listening room for19 years now, which is
absolutely insane but some of myfunnest memories and I'm not
just saying this, like literallysome of my funnest memories, uh
have been nights where you andg have jumped up on stage and,
just like as you were talkingabout him playing the piano at
your house, it was like I'm likebeing transported back to um.
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You know nights that turnedinto very long nights hanging
out with Eric and all the guysafterwards, but uh you know it's
, it is.
Uh, it's just so fun.
It's just you guys, you, youcan tell that you have been so
close for so long and it's justamazing.
I can't imagine what what thattour is going to be like.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Oh it's.
It's such a good community Imean, as you know, living here
and having artists constantlycoming in for that many years
and everyone becomes friends,everyone wants to work together
and it's just spontaneous nightswhere you go up on stage and
get to sing with friends andmeet new people.
It's like those are some of myfavorite experiences as well.
So, yeah, that's just, it's myfavorite part of living in
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Nashville and I've loved thoseopportunities getting to go up
and sing.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Yeah, I want to.
I want to throw a curveball atyou With, with this being
Stories Beyond the Songs and uschampioning songwriters so much.
What would you say?
Your favorite song is thatyou've written that nobody's
heard.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
My favorite song that I haven't released is actually
the first song I ever wrote andI plan on releasing it at some
point.
It's called Someday.
I wrote it by myself after myfirst guitar lesson.
I learned four chords and it'sjust like a very simple, sweet
song.
Um, I was 19 years old and, uh,I'll release it at some point.
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But there I always talk withother artists like what do you
do with your songs you don'trelease because it feels like
such a waste?
like to never release them, soto put some of them out at a
different point, or we'll givethem to other artists at times,
so that's another option too.
But yes, it's called Someday.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
That's amazing and like a testament to how good of
a songwriter that you are.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
I think it comes and goes.
You know, inspiration can comeand go.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
I think I was 14 when I wrote my first song oh wow,
and nobody will ever hear it.
It was horrible.
I have some bad ones too, don'tyou worry.
Yeah, when it feels like theylike.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
sometimes it's like am I ever going to write a song
again?
Sometimes you just feel likeit's gone, it's lost.
And then I think I just need itto build up, and then I'll have
something to write about againand it can be good, yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I love that.
Um, let's uh, let's talk alittle bit just about you know,
before we wrap up, justeverything that's happened.
Um, you know, going back earlydays, from Coco to this time
around, um, like, how do you seeyour growth as an artist and a
songwriter from those early days?
Speaker 2 (32:25):
I think I know myself a lot better now.
Um, as anyone does as they growup and have more experiences.
Um, I think at Coco, there wassuch a special thing about that
album because I was so young andit was so fresh.
Uh, recording and writing, itwas all brand new.
Those were the first songs thatI ever wrote and there's
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something really special aboutthat.
You can possibly get better atit in a different way, but it
maybe doesn't have thatyouthfulness and that that
rawness that the first album has.
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So, um, I think there's partsof me that looks back at the old
stuff.
I'm like, oh, I remember thatgirl and she was lost and
confused, but it was also sogenuine and and and like raw.
Um, and now I listen to thestuff I do now and I just feel
like I've I've finally figuredout how I want to do things, how
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I want to sing, how I want toproduce these songs and the
instrumentation and how I wantto say talk about what I'm going
through in life.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
So the contrast is, I think, yeah, it's a, it's a
nice contrast.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Yeah, love that.
Um.
What do you think some of thebiggest things that you've
learned are through your,through your time on the road
and just the different um stepsthat you've gone.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Um, that it's okay to be yourself and talk about it.
That was a huge thing.
That was freeing to learn andto live.
Learning when to say no.
That was always hard.
It's always hard because youhave to be able to grow and
experience new things and branchout of something, out of your
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comfort zone.
But there's also times whereyou have to know, like no,
that's not a right fit for me,that I it's.
You're being encouraged by allthese different people around
you that are on your team or uminfluences and you have to know
if it's right for you or not.
And I think that can be a hugechallenge of of knowing when to
say no, um.
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So those are things, I thinkhaving a great team around you
that you trust, that knows whatthey're doing, that also knows
exactly what is right for youit's not just like a there's not
just one sheet for every artistand so I think the team that
you have needs to be able tomaneuver and and make it unique
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to to you and allow you to openup in that way, so that those
were all things that I wished Ihad known at the beginning and
you learn over time.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Yeah, let's talk about that a little bit.
Uh, we, you know, I've had, uh,so many different types of
guests on this podcast.
Uh, from people who have justcome to town to hit songwriters
like Liz, um, other artists likeWalker, um, you know, and
there's just all there.
Like Walker, you know, andthere's just all.
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There's always differentanswers, but a lot of our
listeners, we found, areaspiring songwriters, yeah,
newer to the game.
What kind of advice would yougive somebody now that's first
coming to town of, like, how tobuild their camp, how to get get
started?
Like, what, what, what's,what's the best thing that you
think it is to do today?
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Um, well for me, I I've had my manager since the
very beginning of my career andhe's I've been so fortunate to
have that and for the first oneto be a great one.
Um, he knew my family.
He knew, like, the hometown Iwas from, like we, we didn't
live far from each other.
He, he understood that I wasdifferent than a lot of other
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artists, where I didn't reallyhave the same desire to be doing
this.
It's like it's something thathappened I love to sing and I
like to write, but I wasn'treally wanting to be a known
artist, and so he's alwaysunderstood that.
And he knew his background wasin publishing and so he helped
me not make a poor decision on,you know, publishing deals when
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I was first starting out, whereI could have made huge mistakes,
and so and it's hard becauseyou, you don't know, and I was
fortunate to have that but tohave one person on your team
that can really help guide youinto not making the wrong
choices, to helping you grow, tobeing understanding of you as
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an artist, um, and then you, youslowly build your team, and
whether it be you know, yourbusiness manager, your attorney
or your band members and yourcrew, because all of it is so
important, even on the road,like you have to have, because
all of it is so important, evenon the road, like you have to
have a great team of people thatyou're, you enjoy being around.
That's not, they're not one badseed that ruins it for every,
every day.
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So there's, and it all takesjust learning, you know and
experience, but I would say,having your one person that you
can really count on on your team.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Yeah, advice, thank you.
Uh, I have one more question towrap up, but before I get to
that, is there anything elsethat is just new coming up,
things that you're excited about, anything that you want to
share that we haven't talkedabout?
Speaker 2 (37:35):
um I'll probably think of it after I leave.
But um, um, um, um.
No, I have a song with WalkerHayes that came out on his
record called Adderall.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
But um, such a good song.
Yeah, it's so fun, yeah, it wasfun.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
I'm glad he asked me to sing on that.
No, just this tour and this,this album.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Yeah, we're so excited about it.
We will put links to all ofyour socials and to the album
links and all that uh in theliner notes of this.
So everybody listening outthere go check that out and, uh,
make sure you go buy colby'smusic.
Um, last question you ready?
I'm ready okay, if you can goback to eight-year-old colby,
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what kind of advice would yougive yourself today?
Speaker 2 (38:33):
That's a great question, kind of along the same
lines of what I've said.
You, but just trust yourselfand have fun with it and really
embrace who you are.
Yeah, rather than trying tohide little things, I think,
embrace yourself, yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Thank you so much.
Yeah, thank you, you'rewonderful.
This was great.
I loved it.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Thanks, you know.
We always love having you, likeI said earlier, and welcome
back anytime.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Thank you.
Yeah, let's do a show soon.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
I will.
I'll have to maybe hit the roadand find you and Gavin out
during Christmas.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
It's on the West Coast.
That's okay, okay, great, comeon out.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
It's an excuse to go get some nice weather.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Yeah, get out true, yeah, get out of this.
Uh, cold natural weather in thewinter, so it's pretty bad
thanks, kim, for being here.
Yes, thanks for having me andthank you everybody out there
for listening or watching.
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This week.
I am so excited.
Number one, we're here in thenew podcast room.
Uh, we're really excited aboutthat, uh.
And today's guest is a two-timeGrammy Award winner, a
(00:25):
five-time Grammy-nominatedsinger-songwriter.
She's got over 25 billionglobal streams, eight top 10
singles with iconic songs likeBubbly, Realize and Try, Colby
Calais and the House.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
How are you?
I'm good.
How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Good.
Thank you so much for coming in.
Yes, yeah, we've had the honorof having you play multiple
times at the Listening Room, andI've just been a fan for a long
time, so I'm just really gladto get to sit down with you.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I know I'm happy to be here and chat.
I've always loved myexperiences at the Listening
Room.
It's just always like a funfamily night, you know night,
everyone's friends, and we getto tell stories and it's it's
really nice.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Yeah, uh, well, let's , let's just dive in.
I always kind of like to startfrom the beginning.
So, uh, take us, take us backto childhood.
And when, when did you realizethat music is what, what you
wanted to do?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
You know, I've been singing since I was a kid.
It was just it felt good Like Iwould drive my family insane
just singing at the top of mylungs every morning.
And my parents were in the musicindustry and so once they could
tell that I could kind of singand that it was something that I
was really passionate about,they they kept giving me the
tools that I needed to maybepursue it so I could have a
(01:44):
stronger, you know, availabilitywith that.
And so I, you know, they put mein vocal lessons when I was
younger and my dad was likehoney, like I know you love
singing but you should be asongwriter as well.
That's, it's gonna be moremeaningful, and so you should
learn how to play an instrument.
And then he taught me aboutsong structure and I'm so
(02:05):
grateful I had them to give methat advice early on and the
support and like the knowledgeof of the industry.
So that's, I think I alwaysjust had it in me that I loved
it, but, um, I think thesongwriting aspect really made
me love it yeah, uh, who weresome of your biggest influences
early on?
lauren hill was my favorite she.
(02:26):
I just loved her miseducationof lauren hill.
Record her singing um his eyeson the sparrow in um, uh, oh, my
god, why am I forgetting themovie?
Um, do you know what movie?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
his eyes on the sparrow uh why am I forgetting?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
well, it'll come to me um.
She was just.
I loved her voice and howeffortless it it felt and
soulful yeah um, bob marley,growing up like with that kind
of music fleawood mac it was allvery acoustic and happy and
positive, and so thatcombination is something that I
felt was embedded in me yeah, soyou, you kind of dove into
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songwriting.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
First, Um, and I've heard you talk about, uh, song
champions.
Um, tell me about, like who,who some of the mentors were.
So you talked about theinfluences.
Um could be the same, but uh,were there other other mentors
that were song champions to you?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I mean those are there, those are all on there.
I say John Mayer was a huge one.
I loved his writing style.
His lyrics were were brilliantand the songs, the music it was
effortless and, um, there wasjust something very calming and,
uh, it just felt very relatable.
Um, and then I got to tour withhim eventually and got to, you
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know, ask him advice on onsongwriting and being in the
studio, and so I think all ofthose people and watching how
they built their careers and andsongwriting and their just
honesty with what they writeabout, that was very important
for me to learn.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yeah, I love that.
How was that like being out onthe road with him?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
It was so crazy.
I mean, at that point in mycareer I felt like anything that
I was wanting to do it happened.
You know, it doesn't alwayshappen that way and it was a
window of time where it justworked out that way and I was
obviously a huge fan of his andum, it was 2009.
I got to go on tour with himthat summer and it was surreal.
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I really couldn't believe it.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yeah, you were.
You were one of the earlyartists to really get a
breakthrough on MySpace, whichis I have so many friends that
started their career like thatand I think it's awesome.
It was kind of like the firsttime that we saw social media
making breaks for people.
What were those early days like?
And I guess like, how do youcompare that to TikTok Instagram
(04:47):
socials today?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Well, I think the best part about my space and
with all of the other socialmedia outlets now that are
helping artists get found orwhatever whatever it may be, uh
be found, it's, it's chosen bythe fans and by the people, and
I think that was what made it so, uh, meaningful for me.
Uh, because I don't know, younever know what would have
(05:09):
happened, but I think the way Iwas and the music I was
releasing at that time, uh, itwasn't necessarily what was on
the radio, and so I don't knowif a label would have heard it
and wanted to, you know, um,make it a big thing.
I think that because the fanswere listening to it, it was
like a they had to go with it,and so that's why I got a record
(05:30):
deal and we went with bubblyand, um, it really helped choose
my path.
Um, so it feels nice whenpeople I see people at my shows
and they've been listening sincethe very beginning.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
It's just uh, it's, it's awesome, and so it still
happens for people to this day.
You know, yeah, you talkedabout bubbly.
That was such a defining songfor you.
Um, do you remember the momentwhere you realized that that
song had changed your life?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah, you know well, when my space, you know,
everyone was adding the song totheir page and I started getting
this insane amount of followers, and then it actually started
getting played on the radio Ithink in like the Northwest, and
I was like, okay, that's cool.
And then the fact that everyonestarted knowing about the song
and it started getting on theradio and I would hear it
(06:16):
anywhere that I went Like thatwas something that I it was just
bizarre, like I couldn'tbelieve how fast it happened and
the way that it happened.
Just you, I didn't, I wasn'tprepared for it at all.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Yeah, uh you.
You talked about how, howsongwriting was so important to
you.
I want to go back to some ofthe earlier hits realize, try,
um.
Do any of those carry adifferent meaning to you now
compared to when you first wrotethem?
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, you know it's so great, um, when I sing my old
songs now, they have newmeanings for whatever I'm going
through whether it be a new loveor a breakup or something my
friends or family are goingthrough, and if it's weighing on
me at that moment, then I'll.
I'll think about it during thesong Um, and I completely forget
what I wrote it aboutoriginally.
(07:04):
You know, and try, that reallytransformed how I perform on
stage.
I I think so much of my thebeginning of my career.
I had stage fright and I was soinexperienced with it and I was
just at the time I was taught tohide that I was.
I was taught to try to beextroverted and don't let anyone
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know that you're nervous, andit just felt like it was this
big was.
I was taught to try to beextroverted and don't let anyone
know that you're nervous, andit just felt like it was this
big secret I was having to keepand it made it actually even
harder to perform.
And once I wrote try and Istarted just talking to my
audience and my fans about itand I was like I'm nervous and
I'm I have insecurities and I aman introvert and I just was
(07:45):
like, oh, I'm actually notembarrassed, I'm like I feel
more freed by it.
And then they felt like theyunderstood me and they felt seen
and it just really now.
I just tell the audienceeverything on stage.
It feels so nice.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Uh gosh, I have you.
I wonder how many people you'vetouched by just being open and
honest like that.
Yeah, I mean, we know so manypeople in the industry, and
there's so many of those, thatwhen they walk out on stage you
would not think that they're anintrovert.
Yeah, they're putting on theshow and all that, but then when
you're back in the green roomor just hanging out, you realize
that they no pun intended, butstay in their bubble, right,
(08:22):
yeah?
no pun intended but stay intheir bubble right, Like they
just.
It's, I think, like the factthat you were so open, like did
anybody ever reach out to youand just say like thank you for
making me feel better for yeah,like yeah I would.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
I would get that all the time with try I everyone
would say not only how much thesong meant to them, because it
helped them feel like, whatevertheir flaws were or the things
that they were so worried aboutor insecure about, they felt
like they, uh, were understood,and that, you know.
It just reminds us all, nomatter who we are male, male or
female, whatever age we all havedifferent things that we
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struggle with or that we'reworried about and we try to hide
or alter.
And, um, when you hear someonebe vulnerable and share whatever
it is that they're insecureabout, or if they're having a
bad day or going throughheartbreak, whatever it may be,
you're like, oh, you're going.
You, you have that too.
Like I'm not the only one.
For some reason, we all thinkwe're the only ones that
(09:20):
experience any of those feelings.
Um, and so it.
It relates to us all, itconnects us all and it's very
comforting.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
So cool.
Um, let's talk aboutcollaborations.
Um, you've had some amazingindustry moments.
You've gotten to collaboratewith, uh amazing friends and
artists uh Taylor Swift, JasonMraz, Brad Paisley, early on.
Um, lately that we're going toget into 10, penny Walker, Hayes
(09:49):
, Marin.
Uh, is there a collaborationstory to you that, when you look
back on, it still feels sosurreal?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I mean all of them, because, you know, you usually
start out as a fan of thesepeople.
And with Jason Mraz, I was ahuge fan of his music for so
many years, before I even had mycareer started.
And, um, you know, just to beable to get a call from Jason
and say he wants to write a songwith me and have a duet
(10:20):
together.
And, uh, even Common I have asong with Common.
I was a huge fan of his, I lovehis music so much and, um, it's
, it's just amazing to be onthat same level, like you don't
ever think you're going to be onthe same level as them for some
reason it's like that impostersyndrome.
and now with the duets, likehaving this song with Maren
Morris I'm I love her voice somuch.
(10:41):
I think she's one of the bestfemale vocalists ever and, um,
the fact that she wanted to singon my song she actually chose
the song that she wanted to singon and, uh, yeah, those those
kinds of things that I'm likethat really happened.
That's so cool.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Yeah, yeah.
Do you have any favoritememories of writing any kind of
collaboration?
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Ooh, yes, well, you know, what's interesting about
writing Lucky with Jason is thatwe weren't in the room writing
it together.
He had the idea started.
He sent me the idea and me andTim Fagan were on the road
together I was touring and Timwas my guitar player on the road
and we were just sending theseideas back and forth to Jason
(11:28):
over email, writing out thelyrics, sending some little
audio recordings and so like.
Although it wasn't thisexperience writing in the room
with jason, it was a very coolthing to be able to write like
that and to have that song cometogether and it's kind of in the
theme of our our, you know,career together.
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We're always kind of apart whenwe're singing.
It's really funny, like when weshot the music video when we
won our grammy like we weren'ttogether.
So it's just this like ongoingthing that we're rarely.
It's really funny, like when weshot the music video when we
won our Grammy, like we weren'ttogether, so it's just this like
ongoing thing that we're rarely.
Even when we just recorded thisnew version, he wasn't able to
come to Nashville.
So, it's really funny.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yeah, yeah, um, do you?
What do you look for in a songwhen you're thinking about those
collaborations?
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Um, well, first is voice.
I really love, um, I love whenthere's just a real good singer,
with the tone, theirinflections, their um.
That's really important to meis to and I you know singers,
you just love to get to singwith great singers.
And then if we align witheverything, like if our music
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styles or even if we're onopposite spectrums and you know
it's going to sound like areally cool combination, um, and
then a lot of times there'slike the friend factor, where
you're you, by being in theindustry or living in Nashville,
like you're already friendswith those people and it makes
it even more special to get towork with your friend Um.
But then some of these clubs,like I, became friends with the
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people after these artists andnow they're new friendships,
yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
That's amazing.
Uh, you've got an awesome newprojects coming out that we're
going to talk about in a littlebit.
Um, but let's, let's shift awayfrom the clubs a little bit and
I want to talk about some ofyour earliest memories of
touring, you know, and how youbalance that and the brutality
(13:21):
of just the nonstop being on theroad and keep your creativity.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Touring was so challenging for me.
I was new to it.
I just going from being homelike living, literally living at
home, working at a tanningsalon to going and being on tour
in a different city, adifferent country for two years
straight, it was uh, it wasreally.
I had a really hard time withit.
I had a stage coach, I had atherapist, I had family and
(13:50):
friends come out on the road,like I had a lot of things to
help me get through it,basically, um, and so yeah,
you're, you're singing everynight, your voice is getting
tired, you're doing interviews,you're traveling, and all of
this without any experience ofit, and also trying to write,
for now, your second record thatthe record label is, like you
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know, itching to get, and so itwas all just this really
interesting learning experienceand, um, some days were good and
some days were really reallyhard and challenging, and now
I've found a great balance withall of it.
It's been so many years but, um, I don't tour as much.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Yeah that's for sure.
Yeah, yeah, what would be?
Uh, what would you say?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
some of your like favorite memories are from the
road oh, getting to do a tourwith, um, like opening for john
mayer, opening for cheryl crow,uh, doing a co-headline with,
like, gavin de graw, christinaperry, those were.
It's so fun to get to share thatexperience with another artist
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and you're gaining new fans,you're sharing fans, you're
getting to collab on stagetogether, and also, I think,
when it's my own tour, I love myband and I love my crew, but I
can tend to get, you know,introverted, I get a little
hermity and I get a littledepressed on the road, and
having that um side of it toshare with the other artists and
(15:15):
a bigger group of people, itjust feels like a a big family
unit, and so I really enjoy thatkind of touring.
That's my favorite.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yeah, what about the Grand Ole Opry?
Let's talk about that.
That was cool.
That is such an iconic stage.
Uh, you had your debut withGone West what?
Speaker 2 (15:35):
did that feel like?
Well, I was nervous.
Of course it was a new song, wewere a new band.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
And you know.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I didn't know about the Opry for most of my life
until I moved out here and Ilearned how special it was.
And once I got out there, itsounds well.
First of all, they're thesweetest team of people, like
the.
From the second you pull up andyou have a.
You have your own parking spacethat you get to keep the uh,
you know the, the whole thingand your own dressing room, and
they're so kind to you and Ithink I was so used to even, um,
like doing TV performances.
They're rushing you, they're notthat kind performances, they're
(16:10):
rushing you, they're not thatkind like, they're just they
kind of just treat you like inand out.
And so it was a really pleasantsurprise to go show up at the
Opry and them just be sowonderful and you'd get to take
your time and you get to soundcheck and, um, the audience is
there, they're so excited to bethere and listen to the stories
and hear the music, so the wholeexperience of it is truly just
(16:32):
enjoyable.
So that was something I waslike oh, this can be fun, this
can be nice.
So that was cool.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
My wife's uncle has been the stage manager at the
Opry for like over 30 years.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Oh wow, and I've met him.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Yeah, he's it's fun, but yeah, that's, I think, like
the first couple times that youknow I go like just how you can
just feel like you're a part ofthe family from the moment you
walk in the door yeah and sofrom behind stage to the
audience, like truly, becausesometimes when you play a
different a show or a festivalor even a private event, you're
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like do they know my music?
Speaker 2 (17:10):
are they going to be happy?
I'm here and everyone in theaudience is just so happy to be
there and hear.
It's like quiet, like you couldhear a pin drop.
They're listening to everything, so all around you just feel
supported.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah, okay.
Let's talk about September 26th.
Yes, you have your new albumcoming out this time around and
I cannot wait.
When this episode comes out,it's going to be maybe like a
week, week and a half till then.
What inspired you to reimagineall of those songs and do all
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these collaborations?
Speaker 2 (17:47):
I've been wanting to reimagine my old singles for so
many years.
It's probably been like six orseven years that I've been
wanting to reimagine my oldsingles for so many years.
It's probably been like six orseven years that I've been
thinking about doing it.
You know, when I wrote and whenI recorded all those songs, I
was so young, I was in my early20s I feel like I sound like a
baby and there's just lots ofthings that after now, singing
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these songs for almost 20 yearsand maturing vocally and
everything I I really and andproduction style like I, my
style has evolved over the yearsand so I really wanted to make
a updated version of them and itwas a progressive thing that we
made it be a duet album, likeit was really just going to be a
couple duets, and then itturned into made it be a duet
(18:31):
album, like it was really justgoing to be a couple duets, and
then it turned into every songbeing a duet um, which I will
actually have solo versions ofthese at some point too, but, um
, having the duets was it's justa special um, it brings a whole
other side, a whole otherperspective to the songs, and I,
like I said, I love sharing thestage, I love sharing the room
and getting to sing with othergreat vocalists and great
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artists, and so it just kind ofevolved into that.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Yeah, let's talk about Falling For you with Maren
Morris.
How did that collaboration comeabout?
Speaker 2 (19:04):
So I've met her in the past, my producer, Jimmy
Robbins.
He's worked with her for somany years and it's amazing yeah
, he's amazing.
Um, jimmy and Eric are just,they produce this record.
And when we were brainstormingof people, I was like, oh, I
mean, I would love Maren, butlike she probably can't or maybe
she won't.
And they were like, oh, let'sjust we'll ask her.
(19:25):
And she said yes, and I wasthinking that she was going to
sing on a different song, likethat was what I, for some reason
, I I didn't think of her forFallen For you.
And when she said yes, um, shesaid, uh, but can I sing on
Fallen For you?
And I was like, oh, that, ofcourse, like the fact that you
have a song in mind that youwant to sing, it made it.
(19:45):
It made it so great.
And she came in so prepared.
She had this great idea for thebridge, her vocals were
spectacular, her tone of voiceis beautiful and it was just, it
was so great, yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yeah, she is so good.
I, where was this?
I was at City Winery, gosh.
This was years ago.
But when she did her albumrelease it was like an industry
thing, it was like her albumrelease party and Charles Kelly
was there and a couple otherpeople.
But yeah, she came out, it was.
That was the first time that Iheard her.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
It's unreal and I was just like what.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Who is this?
Speaker 2 (20:23):
The power, the tone, everything about it.
It, she's, yeah, she's aphenomenal artist.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Yeah, you mentioned her earlier.
You also have artists likeHillary Scott, chris Young,
walker Hayes how how did youfigure out who was going to sing
on one Did?
Did everybody come to the table, like Maren, and say, hey, I
want to do this song?
Or?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
So some of them.
So yeah, with Hillary Scott,she wanted to sing on try.
I asked her first.
I was like I'm doing thisreimagined album and I'm making
it duets and I would love foryou to sing on one.
And she's like, oh my gosh, mydaughter and I sing Try all the
time.
I was like, do you want to singthat song?
And so that was really coolbecause, again, when it's
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meaningful to them and she alsocame in prepared she had this
beautiful idea for the bridge um, the original of try has no
harmonies on it and now it'slike a full harmony song.
And hillary also has one of myfavorite female voices she.
It's so soft and sweet and hertone is just beautiful and she's
like the most genuine heart.
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We've been friends for most ofmy career, yeah, um.
And then walker hayes um, I, Ithought he would be great for
brighter than the sun, becauseyou know his energy and he was.
He comes into the studio andhe's just so fun.
He's such a great dude likesuch a great guy.
I love that, like how heprioritizes his family and, um,
(21:52):
I just, yeah, I loved him, likewe became great friends and so
he's like a hype man for thatsong, yeah yeah.
The rest of the songs, I thinkI had to brainstorm a bit and
see who was able to.
Some people weren't availablebecause of their music coming
out or whatever it was, and AmosLee is another one that I'm
really excited about because,I've loved his music forever.
(22:13):
He is one that I'm like.
I like I listen to hisplaylists on.
You know.
You just ask for that's.
That's all I listened to, andso the fact that he sang and he
had another great thing on thebridge I swear all these people,
these artists came so prepared.
It meant a lot.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
And they added their own personal touch to every song
.
Yeah, I hope you realize thatthey, they, I'm sure every
single one of them like youtalked about, like with with
Maren, for example, like well, Idon't know if she can do it she
probably can't like whatever.
I bet you, every single one ofthem was like I I am being asked
by Colby to be a part of thisand they.
I mean.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
It's got to be such an honor for them yeah, I mean,
well, they, they say those nicethings as well.
And I know Mitchell Timpenny.
Actually he was so cute becausewhen I asked him to sing on,
realize he's like that's myfavorite song.
I sang it in high school like Iknow every harmony, I know
every um he.
And he added oh my god, thatversion is my favorite version
(23:08):
now.
I just love his voice and, uh,so yeah for, so yeah for him to
be able to to tell me that he'sbeen listening since high school
.
He would just blast it and jamto it in his car Like it was
really cool.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
It's really cute.
That's amazing.
Yeah, Um, you also.
You've you've re-imagined allof these songs, but then you've
also added three new songs.
Talk about those a little bit.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yeah.
So I got to write with LeeBryce.
We wrote a song called Kind ofSingle and another song, live
Without.
That Maddie and Tay are on, andI wrote that with Jimmy Robbins
, eric Arges and Liz Rose, who,liz is my favorite person to
write with because she justfeels like my therapist and I
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feel like I can tell heranything and she gets it, even
even times where she's likehoney, let's write.
I'm like I don't know, I don'thave anything to write about.
She's like there's alwayssomething to say, there's always
something.
She'll just pull it out of me.
And live without was a greatsong because, you know, over the
last few years I've gonethrough one of those on and off
again relationships that cankind of drive you crazy and when
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you're out of it you feel likethe world's ending, like
everything reminds you of them.
You don't see how you're evergoing to recover and then at one
point you do and you feel like,oh not, I'm not reminded of
them constantly and I'm happyabout life and I'm hopeful for
things in the future, and that'swhat we wrote.
Uh, live without about.
It's just like this freeingmoment that you're happy to be
(24:35):
on your own again.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Um, and then can't say no, with Ryan heard.
Uh, he's just so great, he's anincredible vocalist.
Uh, we got to write that songwith Jimmy and Eric as well, and
um, it's a relatable sentimentwhere you know either one of one
person or the other from therelationship always reaches out
again to rekindle in some waythat we can fall into that trap
(24:59):
easily, when, when you like,with those songs or other songs.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
What's your writing style?
Are you more lyrics?
Do you have the ideas, vocals,all of it.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
It's different, for every song is different.
Like when I walked into theroom with lee bryce, um, I got
there a little bit after themand they had been talking.
Lee's like all right, jimmy,like what's up with colby is she
?
Is she married?
Is she single?
What are?
What are we going to be writingabout today?
And jimmy's like well, I thinkshe's kind of single.
And there he was, like, oh mygod, we have to write a song
(25:32):
about that.
So, like that's how that thatsong sparked.
Can't say no with Ryan.
I think it's just somethingthat we were all in the room
talking about, talking aboutthat back and forth that you can
get pulled back in inrelationships and with Live
Without.
That was something that I wasjust like I have to write about.
This feeling of it finallyfeels so freeing.
(25:56):
So, um, and then usually I'mmore of a melody person.
Um, I'll, I'll write lyrics,but they're they take longer for
me.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
And.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
I, I tend to always love that.
My writing partners like JimmyRobbins he's an incredible
lyricist Jason Reeves,incredible lyricist um, they
just I'll be able to tell themsomething and then they just put
it in this really perfectlittle, little short sentence
that sums it all up.
So clever, um, so it's just agreat teamwork yeah, love that
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yeah uh, what are you mostexcited?
Speaker 1 (26:29):
excited about when this album comes out.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Well, it's been a long process, like it's been
almost two years since westarted it, so it's like that
happens all the time.
We have a fire station rightbehind us.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Literally every single episode.
We've even got to the pointwhere there's episodes where
we're like you just roll through.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
There's the fire truck.
Yeah, we just hey, we, just, wejust hey we.
Background music every singletime.
Yeah, um, what was I talkingabout?
Speaker 1 (26:58):
uh, what is, uh, what's the thing that you're
most excited about?
Speaker 2 (27:01):
yeah, I'm excited for the songs to finally come out.
I feel like I've been having tokeep them quiet and keep them a
secret for so long and um, I'mexcited to share them.
I'm excited for people to hearthese new versions and see what
they think, and um get tohopefully eventually play these
songs with the duet partners atdifferent shows and um playing
(27:23):
in Nashville or we're trying tobook a put together a show like
that.
Um, we'll see.
It's so hard with everyone'sschedules, but um, that's also
what, but that's also insane itwould be really cool.
Um, I mean it.
It might be impossible, butwe're gonna.
We're gonna figure it out and Ithink that would be a really
fun show to have just all thefriends and all the collabs come
(27:43):
out, um, so I'm excited forwhat it's gonna, what this album
will bring to the future, yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Yeah, yeah, you also have a tour coming up.
Yeah, a Christmas tour withGavin DeGraw.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Talk about that.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Gav is one of my best friends.
We've been friends for most ofmy career and he's like a
brother.
It's just.
It's awesome, like we're to beable to have that support system
with each other as mutualartists, getting to talk about
the difficulties, thechallenging times in the career
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in the industry and also thesuccess of it.
To get to share that.
It's really nice.
And he's singing on.
I did a cover of Circles onthis new album and Gavin singing
on it.
He has one of the best voicesin the world.
I'm pretty sure Getting to hearhim live, like when he's
playing the piano in my livingroom, it's so incredible.
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Getting a tour with him is somuch fun.
So, yeah, we're going to do aChristmas tour and going to be
on stage together and sing allour songs and sing some
Christmas songs and we havereally funny banter, we bicker a
lot, it's comical.
So it'll be a fun, a little funtour.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Where anybody that's listening.
Where can they go to find outmore information about the tour?
Speaker 2 (29:04):
You can go to my website colbykellecom, or
Gavin's website I think it'sgavindegrawcom and gavin's
website I think it's gavin negradot com and um our social media
outlets every yeah, that's howyou can get tickets.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Cool, yeah, uh, we have.
I've had the listening room for19 years now, which is
absolutely insane but some of myfunnest memories and I'm not
just saying this, like literallysome of my funnest memories, uh
have been nights where you andg have jumped up on stage and,
just like as you were talkingabout him playing the piano at
your house, it was like I'm likebeing transported back to um.
(29:40):
You know nights that turnedinto very long nights hanging
out with Eric and all the guysafterwards, but uh you know it's
, it is.
Uh, it's just so fun.
It's just you guys, you, youcan tell that you have been so
close for so long and it's justamazing.
I can't imagine what what thattour is going to be like.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Oh it's.
It's such a good community Imean, as you know, living here
and having artists constantlycoming in for that many years
and everyone becomes friends,everyone wants to work together
and it's just spontaneous nightswhere you go up on stage and
get to sing with friends andmeet new people.
It's like those are some of myfavorite experiences as well.
So, yeah, that's just, it's myfavorite part of living in
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Nashville and I've loved thoseopportunities getting to go up
and sing.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Yeah, I want to.
I want to throw a curveball atyou With, with this being
Stories Beyond the Songs and uschampioning songwriters so much.
What would you say?
Your favorite song is thatyou've written that nobody's
heard.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
My favorite song that I haven't released is actually
the first song I ever wrote andI plan on releasing it at some
point.
It's called Someday.
I wrote it by myself after myfirst guitar lesson.
I learned four chords and it'sjust like a very simple, sweet
song.
Um, I was 19 years old and, uh,I'll release it at some point.
(31:08):
But there I always talk withother artists like what do you
do with your songs you don'trelease because it feels like
such a waste?
like to never release them, soto put some of them out at a
different point, or we'll givethem to other artists at times,
so that's another option too.
But yes, it's called Someday.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
That's amazing and like a testament to how good of
a songwriter that you are.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
I think it comes and goes.
You know, inspiration can comeand go.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
I think I was 14 when I wrote my first song oh wow,
and nobody will ever hear it.
It was horrible.
I have some bad ones too, don'tyou worry.
Yeah, when it feels like theylike.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
sometimes it's like am I ever going to write a song
again?
Sometimes you just feel likeit's gone, it's lost.
And then I think I just need itto build up, and then I'll have
something to write about againand it can be good, yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I love that.
Um, let's uh, let's talk alittle bit just about you know,
before we wrap up, justeverything that's happened.
Um, you know, going back earlydays, from Coco to this time
around, um, like, how do you seeyour growth as an artist and a
songwriter from those early days?
Speaker 2 (32:25):
I think I know myself a lot better now.
Um, as anyone does as they growup and have more experiences.
Um, I think at Coco, there wassuch a special thing about that
album because I was so young andit was so fresh.
Uh, recording and writing, itwas all brand new.
Those were the first songs thatI ever wrote and there's
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something really special aboutthat.
You can possibly get better atit in a different way, but it
maybe doesn't have thatyouthfulness and that that
rawness that the first album has.
(33:07):
So, um, I think there's partsof me that looks back at the old
stuff.
I'm like, oh, I remember thatgirl and she was lost and
confused, but it was also sogenuine and and and like raw.
Um, and now I listen to thestuff I do now and I just feel
like I've I've finally figuredout how I want to do things, how
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I want to sing, how I want toproduce these songs and the
instrumentation and how I wantto say talk about what I'm going
through in life.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
So the contrast is, I think, yeah, it's a, it's a
nice contrast.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Yeah, love that.
Um.
What do you think some of thebiggest things that you've
learned are through your,through your time on the road
and just the different um stepsthat you've gone.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Um, that it's okay to be yourself and talk about it.
That was a huge thing.
That was freeing to learn andto live.
Learning when to say no.
That was always hard.
It's always hard because youhave to be able to grow and
experience new things and branchout of something, out of your
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comfort zone.
But there's also times whereyou have to know, like no,
that's not a right fit for me,that I it's.
You're being encouraged by allthese different people around
you that are on your team or uminfluences and you have to know
if it's right for you or not.
And I think that can be a hugechallenge of of knowing when to
say no, um.
(34:35):
So those are things, I thinkhaving a great team around you
that you trust, that knows whatthey're doing, that also knows
exactly what is right for youit's not just like a there's not
just one sheet for every artistand so I think the team that
you have needs to be able tomaneuver and and make it unique
(34:55):
to to you and allow you to openup in that way, so that those
were all things that I wished Ihad known at the beginning and
you learn over time.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Yeah, let's talk about that a little bit.
Uh, we, you know, I've had, uh,so many different types of
guests on this podcast.
Uh, from people who have justcome to town to hit songwriters
like Liz, um, other artists likeWalker, um, you know, and
there's just all there.
Like Walker, you know, andthere's just all.
(35:24):
There's always differentanswers, but a lot of our
listeners, we found, areaspiring songwriters, yeah,
newer to the game.
What kind of advice would yougive somebody now that's first
coming to town of, like, how tobuild their camp, how to get get
started?
Like, what, what, what's,what's the best thing that you
think it is to do today?
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Um, well for me, I I've had my manager since the
very beginning of my career andhe's I've been so fortunate to
have that and for the first oneto be a great one.
Um, he knew my family.
He knew, like, the hometown Iwas from, like we, we didn't
live far from each other.
He, he understood that I wasdifferent than a lot of other
(36:08):
artists, where I didn't reallyhave the same desire to be doing
this.
It's like it's something thathappened I love to sing and I
like to write, but I wasn'treally wanting to be a known
artist, and so he's alwaysunderstood that.
And he knew his background wasin publishing and so he helped
me not make a poor decision on,you know, publishing deals when
(36:30):
I was first starting out, whereI could have made huge mistakes,
and so and it's hard becauseyou, you don't know, and I was
fortunate to have that but tohave one person on your team
that can really help guide youinto not making the wrong
choices, to helping you grow, tobeing understanding of you as
(36:50):
an artist, um, and then you, youslowly build your team, and
whether it be you know, yourbusiness manager, your attorney
or your band members and yourcrew, because all of it is so
important, even on the road,like you have to have, because
all of it is so important, evenon the road, like you have to
have a great team of people thatyou're, you enjoy being around.
That's not, they're not one badseed that ruins it for every,
every day.
(37:11):
So there's, and it all takesjust learning, you know and
experience, but I would say,having your one person that you
can really count on on your team.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Yeah, advice, thank you.
Uh, I have one more question towrap up, but before I get to
that, is there anything elsethat is just new coming up,
things that you're excited about, anything that you want to
share that we haven't talkedabout?
Speaker 2 (37:35):
um I'll probably think of it after I leave.
But um, um, um, um.
No, I have a song with WalkerHayes that came out on his
record called Adderall.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
But um, such a good song.
Yeah, it's so fun, yeah, it wasfun.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
I'm glad he asked me to sing on that.
No, just this tour and this,this album.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Yeah, we're so excited about it.
We will put links to all ofyour socials and to the album
links and all that uh in theliner notes of this.
So everybody listening outthere go check that out and, uh,
make sure you go buy colby'smusic.
Um, last question you ready?
I'm ready okay, if you can goback to eight-year-old colby,
(38:19):
what kind of advice would yougive yourself today?
Speaker 2 (38:33):
That's a great question, kind of along the same
lines of what I've said.
You, but just trust yourselfand have fun with it and really
embrace who you are.
Yeah, rather than trying tohide little things, I think,
embrace yourself, yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Thank you so much.
Yeah, thank you, you'rewonderful.
This was great.
I loved it.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Thanks, you know.
We always love having you, likeI said earlier, and welcome
back anytime.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Thank you.
Yeah, let's do a show soon.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
I will.
I'll have to maybe hit the roadand find you and Gavin out
during Christmas.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
It's on the West Coast.
That's okay, okay, great, comeon out.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
It's an excuse to go get some nice weather.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Yeah, get out true, yeah, get out of this.
Uh, cold natural weather in thewinter, so it's pretty bad
thanks, kim, for being here.
Yes, thanks for having me andthank you everybody out there
for listening or watching.
This has been another episodeof stories behind the songs.
You've been listening to colbycollet and I'm chris blair.
We'll see you next time.
This has been an episode ofstories Behind the Songs with
(39:41):
Chris Blair.
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