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(00:00):
Hey, what's up?
(00:01):
Welcome back to Stories Behindthe Walls.
This is your host, Annabel, andit's me, your co-host, goofy
man.
What's going on, dude?
How you been?
Oh man.
Hanging in there, you know,living the life in the show.
Howard Correctional Institution.
(00:22):
Listen, I know I talked to youother day.
And I reached out to you becausewe had filed a formal complaint
and it was impossible for us toget ahold of the warden there
and the deputy warden.
It took us reaching out to thegovernor's office before we even
got a response back from theDelaware Department of
(00:44):
Corrections.
Like, what?
What the hell is going on insidethat institution?
Man.
Oh man.
That seems like the same thing,like with that grievance process
here.
You know, like some things, youknow, they, they tend to like
keep it, like brush itunderneath the rug.
You know, some of these CEOsjust keep, just feel like, you
(01:06):
know, like they feel like theyare the water.
Like we don't need the water.
Some of these officer are thewater.
Like, you know, so it's likeinstead of you trying to contact
the warden, why don't you justtalk to one of these cos then
you might get your answer there.
Yeah, I mean, even when wecalled up there, when we had an
inmate reach out to us about theelectricity going off in their
(01:29):
cell, up on their tier, theydidn't even want us talk to the
CO who was in charge for thatevening.
Again, we had to write anotheremail with a formal complaint to
the governor's office to evenget them to respond, which took
them another 24 hours beforethey answered us.
(01:50):
At that point, obviously theelectric had came back on, but
we're talking about a day whenit was 101 degrees outside.
I mean, I'm not, I'm notunderstanding why there's no
accountability when it comes tothese correctional officers.
It's like justice is not reallyjustice inside where you guys
are at.
(02:10):
Oh, that's crazy.
I remember a time where myelectric got cut off, you know,
while, while back.
It didn't get turned on for liketwo days.
Two days went by, you know, andwe complained.
We, you know, we said, we saidsomething to the officers.
(02:31):
The officers, you know, didnothing about it, you know, but
what, what can we do, you know?
We get pen, you know, we getstrip searched, you know, we get
our room fucked up.
You know, it doesn't reallymatter.
(02:54):
Yeah.
I mean, and that's how it seemsto be because it, there seems to
be no accountability whatsoeverwhen it comes to the Department
of Corrections.
The corruption, I really believeis on the inside.
They're looking at you guys.
You know the inmate, thecorruption ain't coming from the
inmate.
From the, of course, you know,it's just like the, you know,
(03:20):
the K two situation mail, youknow, so, you know, people
getting stuff the.
How are we still getting thesetype of items through the
prison?
How are we still getting thesetype of items through a prison
where we can't get mail directlyfrom from from the streets?
(03:42):
It's gotta go to Vegas.
Vegas prints out everything forus now.
Okay, so how do we get caughtwith fake pen?
You know, you know we can't buythem on commissary, so
apparently there's somethinggoing on and it ain't nothing.
We can't get it through visitsbecause our visits are through
(04:04):
glass.
You know, we can't even touchour family.
So again, how can we get itright?
Absolutely.
And that was one of thequestions that I asked when I
emailed the commissioner anddeputy commissioner about how is
it that you're talking aboutcontraband and you want to do
these excessive cell searches onthese inmates?
(04:26):
Where's the contraband reallycoming from?
I think they, I think managementneeds to look at itself.
Let's not look at the inmateregardless of their crime,
regardless of why they're reallythere.
And I was just reading onlinethat back, um, in 2024 when they
had the raid at the James.
(04:47):
Steve Vaughn CorrectionalCenter, the A CLU of Delaware
filed a lawsuit alleging severeconstitutional violations during
that time and in the lawsuit itclaims that correction officers
and prison officials engaged inexcessive force with pepper
spray.
Inmate unnecessarily sexualassault, denied them proper
(05:09):
medical care, decontamination.
I mean, the list just goes onand on.
At that facility, and I knowthat you had good time at that
facility a while back prior toyou being up there at the, uh,
grand old Hilton.
Yeah, because you know, like,you know, with the cos and like
(05:33):
medical staff and like, you gotlike mental, mental health
people, like, you know, you gotall types of individuals that
work.
That, you know, they only do itfor, they for a dollar.
They don't care about ourwellbeing and any of that.
You know, like, just likemedical staff, like medical, you
(05:55):
know, we might have an emergencyand we might, we might not see
medical for like three days, youknow, the way we get treated.
You know, for instance, theymight, we might go to medical
for a.
We might not get the prescribedmedication that we supposed to
for the, for the, uh, staffinfection.
(06:16):
We might not get it for likethree days later.
By then the, the infection donespread it, it done got worse.
They charge us$6 to go tomedical$6, you know.
And what happens?
What happens if you don't havethe six?
(06:39):
Well, we do, they do still giveit to us, but the moment that we
get funds on our account, theytake it from us.
I got you.
I got you.
So, you know, no matter what,like they still take it from us.
They still give it to us, but,you know, but still, like, you
(07:04):
know, still not good.
It's not good at all.
I mean, I, I just find that tobe insane that you have to pay
to go to medical, but yet outyou're on the street, you could
file for Medicaid for free.
Yes.
They charge us$4 to go tomedical and$2 for medication.
(07:30):
So in order, in order for us toget medication, we.
I mean that, that's sad.
That's sad.
That just, that really just goesto show how broken the system
really is.
I don't, we don't even have timeto touch on rehabilitation that
(07:50):
they claim that they do with theinmates inside the prison, but
they're there to helprehabilitate the inmates there.
Yeah.
And yeah, that's, no, that's norehabilitation in this prison
and no prison.
Talk about rehabilitation.
Like, you know, they got in.
(08:18):
Until we like maybe like a yearor nine months left on our
cents.
Until then, we just go in time.
Until we reach that year or ninemonths.
We're not gonna get no programs.
We're not gonna get the helpthat we need.
You know, the only thing that wegetting is good time.
(08:39):
That's it.
Yeah.
You know, and they don't wannagive you the good time that
it's, that they give you extrafor the program because, you
know, when you do the programs,you know, they give you extra
good time for completing theprogram and stuff like that.
It's all about money.
It's all about keeping you inthis prison as long as you can
for them to get paid.
It keeps them with a job.
(09:01):
Absolutely.
I, I read online again, let's goback to online because.
And it says now in 2025, it'scosting taxpayers$92,000 a year
per inmate.
(09:21):
Yes, that's what we call it.
$92,000 a year.
So if it costs the$92,000 a yearper inmate, where's the$92,000 a
year going?
Oh, you know where that's goingtoo.
(09:41):
You know?
Exactly.
Exactly.
But you gotta pay.
You gotta pay$6 to go tomedical, but we paying$90,000 a
year for you to be there.
But you paying$6 to go tomedical.
Yeah, that's exactly what'sgoing on.
Listen, it's been real, man.
(10:02):
It's always a pleasure speakingwith you.
We'll, you know, we're going todo this again.
We're gonna get back on here anddo another podcast, do another
episode.
But I know that your time istight and that you gotta go.
But again, goofy man.
I appreciate you getting on hereand talking with us.
Uh, no problem.
(10:23):
You know the pleasure's mine, soif you looking for, you know,
anything that's.
It's not gonna happen because inthis prison it's all bad.
Absolutely.
(10:43):
All right.
Well guys, until next time,again, this is Stories behind
the Wall.
Thank you for sharing with us.
If you have a story you want toshare, please reach out.
Email us as stories behindtheWall@gmail.com.
You can find us on Instagram andTikTok.
Again, this is your hostAnnabell with Goofy Man.
It's been real.
Hey, what's up?
(00:01):
Welcome back to Stories Behindthe Walls.
This is your host, Annabel, andit's me, your co-host, goofy
man.
What's going on, dude?
How you been?
Oh man.
Hanging in there, you know,living the life in the show.
Howard Correctional Institution.
(00:22):
Listen, I know I talked to youother day.
And I reached out to you becausewe had filed a formal complaint
and it was impossible for us toget ahold of the warden there
and the deputy warden.
It took us reaching out to thegovernor's office before we even
got a response back from theDelaware Department of
(00:44):
Corrections.
Like, what?
What the hell is going on insidethat institution?
Man.
Oh man.
That seems like the same thing,like with that grievance process
here.
You know, like some things, youknow, they, they tend to like
keep it, like brush itunderneath the rug.
You know, some of these CEOsjust keep, just feel like, you
(01:06):
know, like they feel like theyare the water.
Like we don't need the water.
Some of these officer are thewater.
Like, you know, so it's likeinstead of you trying to contact
the warden, why don't you justtalk to one of these cos then
you might get your answer there.
Yeah, I mean, even when wecalled up there, when we had an
inmate reach out to us about theelectricity going off in their
(01:29):
cell, up on their tier, theydidn't even want us talk to the
CO who was in charge for thatevening.
Again, we had to write anotheremail with a formal complaint to
the governor's office to evenget them to respond, which took
them another 24 hours beforethey answered us.
(01:50):
At that point, obviously theelectric had came back on, but
we're talking about a day whenit was 101 degrees outside.
I mean, I'm not, I'm notunderstanding why there's no
accountability when it comes tothese correctional officers.
It's like justice is not reallyjustice inside where you guys
are at.
(02:10):
Oh, that's crazy.
I remember a time where myelectric got cut off, you know,
while, while back.
It didn't get turned on for liketwo days.
Two days went by, you know, andwe complained.
We, you know, we said, we saidsomething to the officers.
(02:31):
The officers, you know, didnothing about it, you know, but
what, what can we do, you know?
We get pen, you know, we getstrip searched, you know, we get
our room fucked up.
You know, it doesn't reallymatter.
(02:54):
Yeah.
I mean, and that's how it seemsto be because it, there seems to
be no accountability whatsoeverwhen it comes to the Department
of Corrections.
The corruption, I really believeis on the inside.
They're looking at you guys.
You know the inmate, thecorruption ain't coming from the
inmate.
From the, of course, you know,it's just like the, you know,
(03:20):
the K two situation mail, youknow, so, you know, people
getting stuff the.
How are we still getting thesetype of items through the
prison?
How are we still getting thesetype of items through a prison
where we can't get mail directlyfrom from from the streets?
(03:42):
It's gotta go to Vegas.
Vegas prints out everything forus now.
Okay, so how do we get caughtwith fake pen?
You know, you know we can't buythem on commissary, so
apparently there's somethinggoing on and it ain't nothing.
We can't get it through visitsbecause our visits are through
(04:04):
glass.
You know, we can't even touchour family.
So again, how can we get itright?
Absolutely.
And that was one of thequestions that I asked when I
emailed the commissioner anddeputy commissioner about how is
it that you're talking aboutcontraband and you want to do
these excessive cell searches onthese inmates?
(04:26):
Where's the contraband reallycoming from?
I think they, I think managementneeds to look at itself.
Let's not look at the inmateregardless of their crime,
regardless of why they're reallythere.
And I was just reading onlinethat back, um, in 2024 when they
had the raid at the James.
(04:47):
Steve Vaughn CorrectionalCenter, the A CLU of Delaware
filed a lawsuit alleging severeconstitutional violations during
that time and in the lawsuit itclaims that correction officers
and prison officials engaged inexcessive force with pepper
spray.
Inmate unnecessarily sexualassault, denied them proper
(05:09):
medical care, decontamination.
I mean, the list just goes onand on.
At that facility, and I knowthat you had good time at that
facility a while back prior toyou being up there at the, uh,
grand old Hilton.
Yeah, because you know, like,you know, with the cos and like
(05:33):
medical staff and like, you gotlike mental, mental health
people, like, you know, you gotall types of individuals that
work.
That, you know, they only do itfor, they for a dollar.
They don't care about ourwellbeing and any of that.
You know, like, just likemedical staff, like medical, you
(05:55):
know, we might have an emergencyand we might, we might not see
medical for like three days, youknow, the way we get treated.
You know, for instance, theymight, we might go to medical
for a.
We might not get the prescribedmedication that we supposed to
for the, for the, uh, staffinfection.
(06:16):
We might not get it for likethree days later.
By then the, the infection donespread it, it done got worse.
They charge us$6 to go tomedical$6, you know.
And what happens?
What happens if you don't havethe six?
(06:39):
Well, we do, they do still giveit to us, but the moment that we
get funds on our account, theytake it from us.
I got you.
I got you.
So, you know, no matter what,like they still take it from us.
They still give it to us, but,you know, but still, like, you
(07:04):
know, still not good.
It's not good at all.
I mean, I, I just find that tobe insane that you have to pay
to go to medical, but yet outyou're on the street, you could
file for Medicaid for free.
Yes.
They charge us$4 to go tomedical and$2 for medication.
(07:30):
So in order, in order for us toget medication, we.
I mean that, that's sad.
That's sad.
That just, that really just goesto show how broken the system
really is.
I don't, we don't even have timeto touch on rehabilitation that
(07:50):
they claim that they do with theinmates inside the prison, but
they're there to helprehabilitate the inmates there.
Yeah.
And yeah, that's, no, that's norehabilitation in this prison
and no prison.
Talk about rehabilitation.
Like, you know, they got in.
(08:18):
Until we like maybe like a yearor nine months left on our
cents.
Until then, we just go in time.
Until we reach that year or ninemonths.
We're not gonna get no programs.
We're not gonna get the helpthat we need.
You know, the only thing that wegetting is good time.
(08:39):
That's it.
Yeah.
You know, and they don't wannagive you the good time that
it's, that they give you extrafor the program because, you
know, when you do the programs,you know, they give you extra
good time for completing theprogram and stuff like that.
It's all about money.
It's all about keeping you inthis prison as long as you can
for them to get paid.
It keeps them with a job.
(09:01):
Absolutely.
I, I read online again, let's goback to online because.
And it says now in 2025, it'scosting taxpayers$92,000 a year
per inmate.
(09:21):
Yes, that's what we call it.
$92,000 a year.
So if it costs the$92,000 a yearper inmate, where's the$92,000 a
year going?
Oh, you know where that's goingtoo.
(09:41):
You know?
Exactly.
Exactly.
But you gotta pay.
You gotta pay$6 to go tomedical, but we paying$90,000 a
year for you to be there.
But you paying$6 to go tomedical.
Yeah, that's exactly what'sgoing on.
Listen, it's been real, man.
(10:02):
It's always a pleasure speakingwith you.
We'll, you know, we're going todo this again.
We're gonna get back on here anddo another podcast, do another
episode.
But I know that your time istight and that you gotta go.
But again, goofy man.
I appreciate you getting on hereand talking with us.
Uh, no problem.
(10:23):
You know the pleasure's mine, soif you looking for, you know,
anything that's.
It's not gonna happen because inthis prison it's all bad.
Absolutely.
(10:43):
All right.
Well guys, until next time,again, this is Stories behind
the Wall.
Thank you for sharing with us.
If you have a story you want toshare, please reach out.
Email us as stories behindtheWall@gmail.com.
You can find us on Instagram andTikTok.
Again, this is your hostAnnabell with Goofy Man.
It's been real.
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