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The Thunder clinch their first NBA championship since relocating from Seattle, with the Larry O'Brien trophy making its way to Oklahoma City after their Game 7 victory over Indiana. The young squad's inexperience showed in their championship celebrations as veteran Alex Caruso had to teach his teammates how to open champagne bottles properly.

• Oklahoma City becoming NBA champions after 17 years, with 12 postseason trips and 4 Western Conference Finals appearances
• Aaron Wiggins' powerful speech addressing how the Thunder went from being called "the black hole of the NBA" to champions
• Young Thunder players struggling with opening champagne bottles during celebrations, with Alex Caruso guiding them
• Texas football's impressive recruiting class of 2026, with special focus on defensive linemen
• Texas State potentially moving from the Sun Belt to the restructured Pac-12 Conference
• LSU winning their eighth College World Series with controversial umpiring decisions against Coastal Carolina
• The deep significance of the Thunder championship for Oklahoma City, with memorial tributes connecting to the city's painful history

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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Music Figure.
Look at that.
Oh, look at that.
Look at that.
Oh, would you look at that?
Just look at it.
Just look at it.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Man the Larry O'Brien Trophy headed to well.
It is in Oklahoma City, my 1Bfavorite community.
But, stevie, regardless of mylove for the Thunder, a historic
team, and here's a stat that alot of people don't even think
about this region of the country, texas, oklahoma and.

(01:00):
I guess you can includeLouisiana with New Orleans
Hornets.
That's nine NBA championshipstotal.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Wow, that's good, that's a lot, but let me ask you
a question.
Yeah, is that the Thunder thatwon it, or the Seattle Super Sun
?

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Oh, pull on the Thunder, bro.
I have heard.
I am so tired of the Seattlefans whining you know what?
I get it.
I get it Home of the 1979 NBAchampions.
Great history in Seattle andthe Emerald City Beautiful city
had a great, proud tradition.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Let go, Let go.
I'm joking man.
Yeah, you're right, though theywant to celebrate it like it
was theirs, but no, it's gone.
Oh, they're not celebrating it.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
They're ignoring it and being whiny and pissy about
it.
When you had an opportunity tobuild a new arena and you didn't
do it, yeah and okay, clayBennett, I know he's from
Oklahoma he said all right, ifyou don't build the arena, I'm
moving this to Oklahoma City.

(02:13):
Yeah, and it did.
And 17 years, 12 trips to thepostseason, four trips to the
Western Conference Finals, twoNBA Finals trips and the elusive
NBA championship.
Quickly, what are your realbecause we're going to dive deep
and have some fun with this andyour thoughts on that team Game

(02:37):
seven, indiana, I mean theywent full seven games.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
Oh man, real young team.
It would have been been if theyweren't so young and making
young team mistakes.
It would have been done in sixor five, you know, but they got
it done with a very, very youngteam.
If they keep it together, theycan do it again With the old man
being Alex Caruso.
It was really fun to watchCaruso come off the bench Peace,

(03:07):
but he played like a starter.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, yeah.
So he's kind of like the heartand soul of the team.
It was funny how he had to helppeople, teach people how to
open champagne bottles.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Oh, we're going to get into that.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
It's fun man.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
It's a lot of fun to watch him.
Watch him, uh, win it.
That is so.
We're gonna talk about that.
We're gonna look at that, larryo'brien, would you just look at
it?
Would you look at it?
We're gonna have a good upclose view and conversations
about the nba championshiptrophy.
Plus, we're gonna get into te,into Texas football, recruiting
Stevie Far from finished for theclass of 26, but they're kind

(03:50):
of killing it in a good way.
And you know what?
Before we, I got to show youmore of the thunder.
More of the thunder, becausethis is a tribute to the team
that calls the state above theRed River.
Look at this Beautiful graphics, nba world champions.

(04:12):
Your boy Caruso's in there withthe headband Love it.
So I'm going to remove this andwe want you to follow us on
Facebook, all of our socialmedia platforms, and subscribe
to YouTube free.
Man, this is well worth it.
Episode 468 stevie 32 episodesaway from half a thousand.

(04:35):
Half a thousand, bro, that's.
It's unbelievable man.
This has been a long journey,but it has been fun.
You ready, ready man, let'sride brother.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, OKC, okc
, okc, okc.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
That's fun.
Woo Estimated 5,000 to 600,000fans showed up in downtown OKC.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
That's fun, that's awesome man.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
That was beautiful.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
Good for the state of Oklahoma.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Man.
I'm telling you what, man.
The beauty of that city was onfull display and the
modernization of it, and youknow what else arrived this week
already?

Speaker 3 (05:55):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Man look at this baby .

Speaker 3 (06:00):
That's perfect.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
NBA champion hat the hat you saw on the celebration
of the players.
It was such a good day.
I looked up and I saw theGoodyear blimp and it read Ice
Cubes of Pimp.
There you go, oh my God.
Hey, big shout-out to all ofour sponsors as we're now

(06:25):
entering Episode 468.
We're going to have some funwith Stevie.
It's been a little bit sinceyou and I have had an episode,
but you know, shout-out toeverybody who supports this
podcast here on the left-handside of the screen.
But for the pass rush withStevie Lee.
We love our people and our famat Hargrove Roofing, stevie,
yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
We do love our people and our fam at Hardgrove
Roofing, stevie, yeah, we dolove our people and our fam.
In fact, billy's texting meright now.
Hardgrove Roofing, hardgroveRoofing.
Know who's on my roof?
Take two.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
Take two.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Hardgrove Roofing Know who's on your roof.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Oh, that's the truth.
What's Billy Hardgrove havingtoing know who's on your roof?
Oh, that's the truth.
What's Billy Hardgrove havingto say this morning or today?

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Checking in with me, man.
I told them they made a mistakeon that post.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah, yeah, and he brought it to my attention.
Thank you.
Yeah, I wasn't aware.
I thought you were always 93,and you were 65 before it.
But hey, to their defense, I'dbe lying if I said I didn't,
that I haven't made an error injudgment on a picture, thinking
it was somebody else or thatperson.

(07:36):
It happens, hey, oklahoma City,shout out to that great
organization.
And you know, after they won iton saturday, on sunday night,
they had the parade in okc ontuesday morning and it all began
with a ceremony at the arenabefore all the outdoor
activities and I thought aaronwiggins had one of the best

(08:01):
speeches, uh, to begin thatmorning.
I mean, think about those guys.
Probably hadn't slept muchsince Sunday night, even into
Tuesday morning, and it wasbeginning to the realization
that they were truly champs fullemotions.
Aaron Wiggins talking about howthat great organization had so

(08:21):
much winning early on.
And then, in 2021, is when SamPresti, the GM, imploded it for
the rebuild after RussellWestbrook left.
And then they hit.
They experienced times thatthey had never experienced
before.
And Aaron Wiggins boy, headdressed it like an evangelical

(08:41):
preacher, in a way amotivational speaker.
Oh my God, the hair on my arms,back, neck whatever few
follicles were remaining werestanding tall.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
It was a point where they tried to call us the black
hole of the NBA.
But four years later, when theymention the Thunder
organization, when they mentionClay Bennett, when they mention

(09:14):
Sam Preston, when they mentionRocky Magna and every single one
of you in this arena, theygotta mention you.
That's gonna be it.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Mike drop.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah, no question, oh , no question, and he's
absolutely correct.
You're an NBA champion Now.
You are a champion for life.
Call yourself champ from hereon out.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Nothing will ever change that, ever Ever.
So Stevie alluded to it.
This young Thunder team, theyjust don't have a lot of
experience with beer andchampagne.
In fact, michelob Ultra is oneof the corporate sponsors and
they stopped the locker room inanticipation of a championship,

(10:07):
but over two-thirds, I would sayalmost two-thirds of the beer
on ice in the locker room wereremaining afterwards.
They didn't drink much and youknow they have two Jalen
Williams on the team.
They have J-Dub, which is theone who went off for 40 in the
previous game or game five, andthen he's from Santa Clara

(10:32):
University.
And then there's J-Will, whoplayed for Arkansas.
Well, j-will he.
Clearly, after the game and thecelebration, clearly he could
not hide his emotions over thefact that J-Wills not a beer guy
.
Where did the kids go?
Yeah, those boys over atMichelob didn't like that.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
No, I think they're like man.
What do we do with this?

Speaker 2 (11:18):
Well, they were talking about how they love 1942
tequila, but I think you and Icould come up with better
tequila options.
How?

Speaker 3 (11:28):
about Lalo.
Oh yeah, I got a bottle of thatright now.
Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Shout out to Norman Watkins Gave it to me for my
birthday a year ago.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
There you go, and you haven't finished it.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
No, I like tequila, but I'm not a big tequila guy.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
Sure.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
But I like it.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
I like Lalo.
Yeah, it's a good tequila, it'ssmooth, yeah.
So your boy, caruso, formerAggie, won a ring with the
Lakers during the bubble seasonin 2020.
So he's had some experiencepopping bottles.
So he's had some experiencepopping bottles.

(12:10):
These kids did.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
they had, they did not know how to open the bottles
of champagne in the locker room.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
You got to remove the foil, you got to twist pop.
Well, caruso said you know,with experience, man, anything's
better with experience.

Speaker 6 (12:22):
Through the learning experience of taking the foil
off, undoing the metal andhaving the cork ready.
There's like three or four guysthat pop their corks and then
it happened again and we're likeall right.
We went through the process acouple times and eventually we
got everybody on the same page.
But yeah, it was a good firsttry.

(12:44):
We'll get some rest, reset, tryto go again next year and see
if we can do it again and we'llbe better next year.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
It just shocked me.
So what does that tell you?
Is that a generational thing?
Is that what this is?

Speaker 3 (13:00):
Absolutely.
It is Absolutely.
No one well no one that agedrinks champagne.
They will when they get older,but not knowing how to open one,
that's absolutely agenerational thing, for sure.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
My dad taught me at age eight.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
It was a different time back then, especially here
in Austin.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Shout out to Joe David Clinch.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Teaching me life essential lessons in the
backyard while he was barbecuingand we're popping bottles of
Andre in the backyard and I'mnot going to say anything.
But I may or may not have had afew sips pools off that bottle
of champagne at AJ.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
Absolutely, you had to.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Mama C didn't know about it.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
That's all right.
It's dad and son time.
My dad called it Viking time.
I got to be a Papa.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Lee, papa Lee sounds like my kind of dude.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
He and I will go out.
It's Viking style.
We don't have to use utensils.
We don't have to say, excuse me, we can do whatever we want to
it's Viking style.
We don't have to use utensils.
We don't have to say, excuse me, we can do whatever we want to
it's Viking style.
That's what we did.
I had a couple pulls off of hisbeard at that time too.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
My dad's company parties at Beast Park.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
I had.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
What is it?
The course heavy, those oldbanquet yellow OG yellow bellies
.
So, stevie, I got to get yourthoughts.
It's really hard to winchampionships and it's really
hard to really truly have adynasty.
I know Golden State had thelatest one, but with the new

(14:42):
collective bargaining agreement,salary cap teams that, like
Oklahoma City and even the Spurs, really try to avoid going over
the cap to pay the luxury tax.
But there's a unique situation.
This is not me, this is notSean the fan of the Thunder
talking.
They're in a unique positionbecause they've got most of
these guys back for at least twomore years before contract

(15:07):
renegotiations have to occur.
I mean SGA Shai Gilgis,alexander he's going to get
probably the super max I wouldimagine coming up here very soon
, I think as early as thissummer.
But you look at it, can theymake a dynastic type of run

(15:29):
where we're talking aboutmultiple championships over the
next five years?

Speaker 3 (15:35):
The short answer is yes, I think that they can.
The long answer is yes, but theleague was riddled with some
big-time injuries this year, andso, even in the last game that
Oklahoma played, withHalliburton going down, I think

(15:56):
OKC still wins the game.
I think so.
But there's some big-timetalent that's coming back.
Kyrie Irving's coming back inDallas with Cooper Flagg right.
So you got and.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Anthony Davis will probably be back.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
Yeah, ad will be back , and so it's some dynasties out
there.
That's going to be healthy, sotheir road to a dynasty can
happen, but it's going to be alittle bit harder.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Yes, and now Houston has KD, now.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
Houston has KD.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
He's on the back end of his career.
San Antonio is getting better.
People need to quit discountingthe leap that San Antonio made
this year.
Yeah.
They quit discounting the leapthat San Antonio made this year.
Yeah, even they didn't make theplay in, but they, from your
first, from the two years ago tonow, they only they only didn't
make the play in because Wimbywas out with the blood clot.
Well, that was a significantloss.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
Yeah, it's a significant loss, but what the
same thing that I'm saying isinjuries are going to be over
Like, so there's's some you haveto really think about.
Will they make it back and makeit a dynasty when you have all
these people healthy and allthese healthy teams?
Where do you fall in there now?
I mean right now, man.
If we're being honest, the lastfive years of the NBA, it's who

(17:23):
got lucky and made all theirplayers make it to the end of
the NBA.
It's who got lucky and made alltheir players make it to the
end of the season.
Great point.
I agree with that that's wherewe are in sports, but OKC is a
young team.
The younger you are, the morehealthy you are, except Caruso.
Caruso was out a few times thisyear too, though.

(17:45):
I think that, being young,though, that they can handle all
that, but it's going to just beharder when everyone's healthy
and elite.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Right, and the thing that OKC also has in their tool
belt or going for them, is thesimple fact that Sam Presti has
compiled over a dozen draftpicks.
It started, like you know, whenthe Cowboys traded away
Herschel Walker to Minnesota,and then that's what started the

(18:19):
Cowboys dynasty, when SamPresti traded away Paul George.
That's when all these draftpicks started compiling, and I
mean they had a lottery picklast night, or two nights ago
the NBA draft.
So, they've got it and they'vegot tons of picks.

(18:39):
They have some conditionalpicks, so they're not lacking.
They're not lacking, they'vegot a lot of opportunities.
So our guy, kendrick Perkins,who's a former Thunder, won a
championship with the BostonCeltics.
He's the one that really gavethem that toughness that led
them to the 2012 NBA Finals.
He's been doing a great job onthe media side.

(19:01):
He adds a great fun to these,to the NBA Finals broadcast on
ABC and ESPN.
Well, he didn't book his flightin time from Houston to OKC so
he had to drive.
That's over six hours.
I mean, it's five and a halfsix hours from Austin, so they

(19:21):
were giving him a hard time on apodcast.
And Perk, in his own way, he'sfrom beaumont, but he was.
He had to leave from houston.

Speaker 4 (19:31):
you know perk, he's got a unique way of doing things
, but he is definitely texasthrough and through you know it,
you fucking know it got me acream, dr pepper and a snicker
and I kept it moving.
You hit the br.
Nah, it was too early in themorning to be eating that type
of stuff.
You know what I'm saying?
Gotcha, my stomach don't takethat type of stuff early in the
morning.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
Because he did make a stop at Bucky's.
There you go, he said once hegot to Denton, which is 110, 111
miles from OKC, there's aBucky's nearby.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
Yeah, Anytime you hit the road in Texas you got to
stop at Bucky's On the way toHouston From Austin.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
On the way to Houston , yeah, or on the way to Dallas.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
You yeah, or on the way, on the way to Dallas.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
So you could eat off their toilet.
Lids are so clean.
I wouldn't recommend it.
I wouldn't recommend it.
All right, stevie, offseason.

(20:39):
We're in the slow low, the calmbefore the madness, truly,
where we go back through thebusy cycle.
The month of July is theslowest sports month of the year
no doubt it is brutal, but I doenjoy F1.

Speaker 5 (21:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
I love F1.
So I woke up this morning andwatched practice one and
practice two today, and thentomorrow will be qualifying and
then Sunday I'll watch the race.
But it's dead out there.
Man, I was looking around likewhat to do.
I went to a Round Rock Expressgame I told you Great Two nights

(21:25):
ago and I was like, well, maybeI should go back tonight
because it was actually fun.
Tacoma they played Tacoma.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yeah, the.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
Rainiers, tacoma Rainiers.
Yeah, how do you know that?
Yeah, you're a professional.
I'm sorry, but they were jawingat each other.
So I was like let me go back, Imight see a fight or something.
Man, they were jawing at eachother.
There was one in the firstinning.
The pitcher pitched and thethis is my first time seeing it.
I'm sorry I'm getting off topica little bit.
No, no, you're good.
The pitcher pitched and thethis is my first time seeing it.

(21:57):
I'm sorry I'm getting off topica little bit.
The pitcher pitched and theumpire called a strike.
Well, the batter can challenge,right?
Yeah, the batter challenged thestrike and it was upheld.

(22:18):
So he turns to the umpire,umpire has a mic on and he tells
the crowd that the batter ischallenging and then it comes up
on the screen.
It's a slow pitch and everybodyoh, yeah, and it was a strike.
Well, the pitcher got upset thathe challenged his pitch.
The next pitch, he hit him withthe ball.

(22:40):
He beamed him, yes, beamed him,and he knows on purpose,
because it was a 70 mile an hour.
He was throwing um, you know 80and 90, but it was a 70, 72, 73
mile an hour ball that hit himin the thigh and the guy just
dropped his bat and walked on.
So it's those little things inbaseball.
That was fun and funny and Ihave to explain it to my

(23:02):
daughter.
He was upset that he challengedhis strike.
So I mean he could have justthrown another strike and he
would have gotten him out.
But he was like no, you're notgoing to do this this was the
first inning Like, no, you'renot going to do this.
It was a first inning.
He was like no, you're notgoing to do this, and hit him
with the ball and let him takehis base.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
That's the beauty of baseball, man.

Speaker 4 (23:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
You can brush people back, yep, you can beat them,
but retaliate.
Unwritten rules in baseball arefunny, yeah.
So during this time frame, mancommitments building for college
football, building the forcollege football, uh, building
the class of 26 it's.
I mean, I know texas is stillyoung in certain areas, but my

(23:43):
god, stevie, you know you buildfrom the interior out and
they've had a lot of peopledrafted lately, a lot of people
at those positions yeah okay,what can you tell us because I I
know it has been hard for me tokeep up with all of the
commitments and those narrowingdown their decision to three or
four and Texas is among thatthree or four.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
One thing that I really, really, really enjoying
is that Sark and PK put a hugeemphasis on the defensive line,
as they should.
As they should, there are timesat the University of Texas that
we were like second fiddle, youknow, and so I love that
there's an emphasis on thedefensive line.

(24:28):
We just signed three defensivetackles and one edge rusher, and
then one from my home state ofLouisiana, which I want to get
to know.
That kid, I'll go out topractice and induce myself, but
it's a lot that's going on inrecruiting.
But right now these defensivetackles are a hot commodity, and

(24:52):
nowadays you can kind of saycommodity because they're
getting paid.
You know, yeah, and nowadaysyou can kind of say commodity
because they're getting paid.
So they are a premium too.
They are a premium to get somebig, fast defensive linemen in
your program, and we got threeof them.
I'm so happy with that because,I'm telling you, football has

(25:13):
always and never will change beabout big on big hand-to-hand
combat, that's what it is.
Investing in your defensive lineis going to pay dividends in
your defense as a whole, same asthe O-line.
You invest in the O-line andthen the quarterback and then

(25:33):
the rest of the team will bereally good after that.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
That's how it works In tears, yep, the game each
play is won or lost at that lineof scrimmage.
Line of scrimmage yeah, so I'lldo my best.
On the at stories man cave onTwitter X.
I want to make a list of thecommitments recently.
Obviously, the 2025 class wassolid, but these commitments

(26:02):
recently are very impressive.
It's a slow go, I think.
The running backs I think theyoffered quite a few.
I think one has committed toA&M and several others, but I
think at running back, texas isin a good place and you saw CJ
Baxter.
He's been cleared, which is agreat thing, and we'll see how

(26:27):
he handles coming off that majorleg injury.
Arch Manning Everybody he'sbeing pumped.
He's humble, he's being put ona pedestal by so many and he has
a lot of potential.
And to show you, he's got somestreet cred too, he went up to
St Louis to help out with Wingos.
Hey, there's that random thumbsup.

(26:48):
I have no idea how that happens.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
I don't know, man, I think something's going on with
your computer.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
Well, I don't know, man, I think something's going
on with your computer.
Well, I don't know why, all ofa sudden I am dark.
That's not a melanin deal.
Ryan Wingo has a youth footballcamp back in his hometown, say
in the Louvre, and here's somevideo.
Man, it looks like Arch fitsright in hey.

Speaker 4 (27:14):
Who you on the Whoa, what Whoa?

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Whoa.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Man, what's that?
Tell you, man, when you've got,leave out the position.
But when your high profile, ahigh profile teammate is willing
, I'm not going to say sacrifice, but go, support you, your
community, because it goesdeeper, to those levels.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
Yeah, for me, man.
It tells me that you're lockedin with your teammate.
You know, not only did he gothere, they probably flew
together.
Yeah, probably not in the sameroom, but stayed at the same
hotel or whatever.
They are not just X's and O's,they're friends outside of
football.
That's the kind of chemistryyou need, that a quarterback

(28:07):
needs, with everyone that he'sthrowing the ball to, handing
the ball off to whatever.
What's telling me there is,he's putting the the we before
me and I and I like that I likethat a lot, man.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
I.
I love the little cliches andacronyms sports and locker room
material, because it's true, man, it's programmed, it's part of
your when you hear it a lot.
I know it gets tiring hearingabout culture, but it's honest
to God truth.
I want to pull up a graphicStevie that I made.
We don't have to spend too muchtime on this, but everybody's

(28:43):
excited about preseason.
The toughest SEC road schedule.
This is what Texas has, and Ipicked out a few others, but I
clearly think OU has thetoughest road SEC schedule.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
At South Carolina, alabama and Tennessee.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
Okay, I think that you think Alabama is still
Alabama.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
I mean, there's still a nine-win program.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
They may get back up to 10.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
They may drop down to 7-8.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
Oh, that would be horrible to see.
And what happens to Tennesseewith Lomolova out?

Speaker 3 (29:34):
Yeah, I think Georgia is still going to be Georgia
Kirby's going to get those boysright.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
The Swamp is not easy .

Speaker 3 (29:41):
The Swamp is not easy .
I was recruited there and Iwent to a game down there and
they have passion in thatstadium.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
Well, their quarterback situation Texas it's
not going to.
It's going to be a very toughgame for Texas.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Very tough and at Mississippi State you know
they're going to be improvedStarkville, Stark Vegas.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
Yeah, but you got to look at Vandy with that schedule
too.
Oh Lord, have mercy, that's ahard one.
Bro Vandy has a.
They got to come to us, theygot to go to Tennessee and then,
if Alabama is stillennessee andthen, if alabama is still
alabama, and then south carolina.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
That's four tough, extremely tough road games yeah,
absolutely four tough placesyeah you know it's so that's it
just kind of to appease those.
give you an appetizer as weenter the slowest sports month
of the year.
But down the road from Austin,stevie, there's some big news.

(30:42):
It could happen.
Hopefully it's not news whenyou're watching this, but it
could happen very soon.
All right, my brother, texasState, has been in a carousel of

(31:12):
conferences Getting back totheir FCS days.
They were in the Southland withStephen F, austin and programs
like that.
Then they made the leap about2012 to FBS.
I believe they were in the WACand then here recently been in

(31:33):
the Sun Belt, which is a goodleague, a good league.
Well, you know about conferencerealignment, the Pac-12 is not
what it used to be.
I mean, the only two schoolsremaining that we associate with
the pac-12 is oregon state andwashington state, um, so they've
been expanding to save it.
They have to have at leasteight football playing members

(31:54):
to remain an FBS conference.
I believe the CBS network, theirplatforms, have made a
commitment.
If I may stand corrected, fromwhat I understand Texas state,
they've got to make a decisionthat the offer has been extended

(32:16):
and they have to make.
I want to say they got to makea decision by July 1st.
If they don't, the buyout thatTexas State owes the exit fee to
the Sunbelt Conference would gofrom $5 million to $10 million.
So we're on the last few daysof June.

(32:40):
They got to make this decisionquickly.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
Yeah, oh man, I don't know bro.
You know one, they're jumpingaround a lot.
You're right, they have acarousel.
They're not planning routes tobe the traditions of whatever
conference that you're in.
In the same breath, you got tolook at the Pac-12 and what

(33:09):
teams are going to come in andpack your stadium out.
I don't know, man, I think youmake that jump.
$5 million is a lot of money toyou and I, or to me, I don't
know about you Today it is.
To a football program that'slooking on the upside.

(33:32):
The Pac-12 is a historicconference.
The Pac-10 was the Pac-10 atfirst right.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
Pac-10, then it evolved to the Pac-12.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
It's a historic conference.
I think it's a no-brainer.
Let the Pac-12 try to help youpay that bill.
I do understand that you wantto grow roots and and and have
some tradition with a conference, but I think you do that with
the big 12.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
I'm sorry, the PAC See, and that and that's the
thing they'll be playing.
So they have, from myunderstanding, they'll have two
non football playing members.
Gonzaga is going to go from theWest Coast Conference to the
Pac-12 in basketball.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
And so is Grand.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Canyon, which is a good mid-major, and it's only
going to elevate their revenue.
But then you have Jay Norvell,colorado State football program,
and Nevada.
They're going over to thePac-12.
And there's some other schools,but you still have Oregon State
and Washington State.
Oregon State has been fairlyconsistent over the years and

(34:42):
Washington State has had somegreat years every now and then.
So you bring those programs in.
And places like Colorado Statehas made the commitment to
football they had a renovationof their stadium and Boise State
they're in this league.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
Yeah, I'm looking up all the teams that's in here and
it's not shabby and so, like Isaid, you want to pack out their
stadium, you want to pack outyour stadium, get those teams
down here, yeah, but now we'realso just talking that.
Or football, what aboutbasketball and all the other

(35:20):
sports and baseball, I think?

Speaker 2 (35:22):
baseball.
I mean, think about this.
Texas state's had a good trackrecord of success in baseball.
Think about programs likeoregon state, who goes to the
college world series a lot,playing conference series in San
Marcos.
Think about Grand Canyon.
They've had good runs inbasketball coming to the

(35:43):
10,000-seat straight-handColiseum.
Even Oregon State, WashingtonState they've had NCAA
tournament teams.
Nevada they've had greatbasketball.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
I mean, conference realignment is never-ending.
It's really weird to see USC,ucla in the Big Ten and it's
weird, much weirder if you will,to see a cow playing on the ACC
on the East Coast.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Makes no sense.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
It makes no sense.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
That's where we are today.
Real quick.
You know we talked aboutfootball recruiting.
Ut Baseball right now iscurrently the top five in the
country with their transferportal class that they've
assembled Amazing.
And then Ace Whitehead, thepride of Lampasas, who's been a

(36:37):
pitcher, a position player, justa really good, wholesome, great
player, was injured of thispast year, couldn't play this
whole season.
He's a stories inside the manCave VIP alumni.
He's transferring to USC.
So that's what we got there.

(36:58):
So keep an eye as UT baseballand Jim Slosnego, and then
continue to construct theirroster in this new era of
college baseball.
Hey, your home state LSU Tigerswon their eighth College World
Series National Championship,beat Coastal Carolina, but not
without controversy.
Lsu was up one game to none, sogame two Coastal had to win in

(37:24):
Omaha to force a game three.
The very first two inningsthere was a disagreement on
balls and strikes chatteringfrom the first base coach for
Coastal Carolina with the firstbase umpire.
It resulted in some trashtalking between the two.
Kevin Snell, the head coach ofCoastal Carolina, had some words

(37:50):
.
He was ejected.
He and the first base coachwere both ejected.
Come on, man, I get it, butit's the national championship.
Tensions are high.
Have a conversation.
Don't eject people unless it'sjust egregious.
So here's Snall after the game.

(38:11):
And what is up with thislighting man?
That's weird.
We're getting a little redfireworks too.
That's freaking amazing.
Check this out.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
Watch the video.
There was a guy that came inextremely aggressively, tripped
over Campos' foot, embarrassedin front of 25,000, immediately
goes two-game suspension, andsaid bumping the umpire

(38:42):
Immediately does that.
There was no bump, he wasembarrassed.
I shouldn't be held accountablefor a grown man's athleticism.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
Or lack thereof, Like that was the best man for lack
of athleticism.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
I'm gonna go ahead and say stevie utter bullshit.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Call to eject a coach unless he's up in your face.

Speaker 4 (39:17):
yeah yeah, somebody's agreeing with me.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
Yeah, no, you're exactly right, man.
I think these umpires sometimesget in their feelings.
This is the nationalchampionship he injected himself
into these kids' games.
I agree with Coach CoastalCarolina.
The guy fell on his own.

(39:40):
He's the one that ran inaggressively, like he said.
I don't know, man, theseumpires like I was talking
earlier about the Round RockExpress game, they sometimes
eject themselves into the game alittle bit too much.
In the same breath, they are apart of the game.
They sometimes eject themselvesinto the game a little bit too
much, but in the same breaththey are a part of the game
because they do make it funsometimes.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
They're essential, but you're supposed to control
the game.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
No question.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
Control the game.
Have conversations like that,brother.
It's been a while we're goingto do this moving forward,
because you have stories, stevieLee.
We usually save these forguests, but we need more, stevie
Lee, random man cave stories.

(40:28):
Is there any one story that youcan think of, maybe from your
locker room days or anything inlife?
That's just as funny now aswhen it happened.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
Oh man, I got so much .

Speaker 2 (40:43):
And it used to be a quick one.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
Well, I'll tell you this.
You know my best friend, mybrother Phillip Geiger.
Phillip and I went to highschool together and then we came
to college together and we arestill basically together.
I'm Uncle Stevie, he's UnclePhillip.
We went to a football camp inhigh school in Tallahassee at

(41:10):
Florida State.
University, and so you know mebeing a big silly that I am, I
was just jarring with him andpoking at him and just
aggravating him all day, All day.
But he goes by the end of theday he's like I got something
for you and I didn't thinkanything of it, just poking him.
And we're in this rinky-dinkdorm room all right.

(41:32):
At night we're asleep, you know, getting ready for camp the
next day.
I'm dead asleep, dead asleep,and I hardly ever sleep on my
back.
At the time, and I'm sleepingon my back, all of a sudden I
get a dash of water in my face.
I thought, coming out of mysleep, I thought the ceiling had

(41:55):
caved in on me.
I thought that I had, like Iwas.
The ceiling tiles was comingdown on me.
I thought he's in the cornerbawling, laughing as I come to.
He said see, I told you I wasgoing to get you.
I never messed with him afterthat, ever again.

Speaker 5 (42:16):
Where did?

Speaker 3 (42:16):
the water come from the sink.
The water came from the sink.
Another reason why I thought itwas a ceiling is because it got
in my mouth and it had thismetallic taste to it.
It's an old building, so it hadthe old pipe taste to the water
.
That's why I thought theceiling was caving in, because
it was dirty water.
I don't know man.

(42:37):
It was hilarious.
He and I laugh about that stillto this day.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
man, oh, Geiger, we need to text him.
You saturated Stevie's face.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
That could be misconstrued many ways.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
It very should.
But I did not mess with himever again after that because I
was just poking at him all dayand I didn't get mad because I
deserved it.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Yeah, you got jokes.
Everybody's got jokes, right,got jokes.
Everybody's got jokes right,geiger's got jokes.
Hey, how risky.
What type of risk?
How far would you go?
What?
As far as a dirt road at a highelevation, just to have a view,
would you risk it?

Speaker 3 (43:25):
if I had a four by four truck, I truck I would.
I did it before.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
All right, let me see if it's anything like this.
Humor me on this Black BearPass in Colorado.
Would you do this?

Speaker 6 (43:36):
I am chilling on the dirt road, laid back, sweating
like I'm George Jones Smoke,rolling out the window An ice
cold beer, sitting in theconsole.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
That's tough, bro.
That's tough because in my headI don't know how stable that
ground is coming off that cliff,you know.
So I don't know if I'll do thatone.
The mountain I went up isSandia Peak, over in Albuquerque
, new Mexico.
Beautiful area, yeah, beautifularea.

(44:12):
I was going up Sandia, but thefurther I went up the more snow
was on the ground.
And, being from Louisiana andliving in Texas, I was like I
don't really do this snow verywell and the phone, your cell
phone, goes out after a whilegoing up those mountains, yeah,
and I didn't have any cellservice.

(44:34):
I looked at my wife, I lookedat my two little kids in the
back.
I was like we can go back downnow.
So I turned around a narrowstreet it was like a 12-point
turn just trying to turn around,turn around, and I made it back
, turned around and went rightback down the hill.
And the other thing is theytell you to check your brakes
before going up because you'regoing to be riding your brakes

(44:55):
all the way down.
So it's scary up there, man,but I think I would do that in a
Jeep, a 4x4 Jeep.
Yeah, I can do it.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
Man, I had an incident in flagstaff, arizona,
on that mountain and I don'tknow if I'll.
I'll be a passenger, but I amnot gonna drive ever again.
Yeah, I, I, it was me.
I took my focus off the roadand, uh, almost, oh man, almost
ran off the side of thatmountain.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
Oh, oh man well, I'm glad you're still here, man, and
I'm glad I am here too.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Hey, no doubt about it.
Oh my God.
Hey, we're going to take aquick break, but on the other
side, man, we're going to.
We got some.
You know, we got tick talking.
The secret to an elder couple'shappiness?
It involves dentures or lackthereof.

Speaker 5 (45:51):
We'll see you on the other side here at Hard Grow
Roofing we try to think outsidethe box to kind of get the
creative juices flowing.
So I brought in my friendStevie Lee, former defensive
tackle for the Texas Longhorns.
He's gonna help the teamstrategize, really motivate them
.
Light a fire.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
This guy's gonna block down.
This guy's going to block down.
This guy's going to block down.
You.

Speaker 5 (46:10):
Put your butt into the guard and that way my Mike
linebacker gets free to do whatnot only are they going to learn
a thing or two, but they'regoing to also leave with a great
attitude and a bunch of smileson their faces.

Speaker 4 (46:24):
I'm sorry.
What does this have to do withroofing exactly?

Speaker 1 (46:28):
get out right now.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
I'm sorry what does this have to do with roofing
exactly?

Speaker 5 (46:33):
Get out Right now I said get out For me.
That's what it's all about.
It's just having fun, makingour employees have a great time.
Hargrove Roofing Know who's onyour roof?
There you go, Gloating baby.
You got to gloat.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
Absolutely, it's not gloating, it's just celebrating
man.
Champion, baby, you got togloat.
Absolutely, it's not gloating,it's just celebrating man.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
Champion baby.
I am so happy for that city,that franchise, God, this is the
highlight of 2025.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
There you go.
It is there you go.
Good, hey, Stevie.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
TikTok in the man cave.
There you go.
It is there you go.
Good, hey, Stevie TikTok in theman cave.
I love listening to eldercouples who are older than us
and what's the secret to theirlongevity.
You know, when you get older,sometimes you face the how can I
say this?
The fact that you need to haveyour teeth pulled and have

(47:47):
dentures, but in some ways thatcan get in the way of some
activities, or not.

Speaker 6 (47:53):
You keep your husband happy for so long.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
I'd take my teeth out and give him a no denture
adventure.
I'd gobble that thing up Likeit was a canned ham Bingo.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
No denture adventure.
I've never heard that one man.
No denture adventure.
I've never heard that one man.
I've never heard that one.
Golly, the internet is gettingunhinged right now.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
It's off the chain, ridiculous yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:23):
No denture adventure.
Oh man, I got to use that one.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
That's got to be a good old product of AI.
It has to be.

Speaker 4 (48:30):
There you go.
Yeah, it has to be.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
Oh, my 100%.
That was well done.
Well done, my friend.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
Hey man, Tell me something good.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
Stevie Lee, we're near the end of this episode,
but we know what we do.
You know how we do it.
We got to end with positivity.
Tell me something good, mybrother.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
Man, golly, I don't know.
Really, man, I'm having a hardtime right now because, you know
, my daughter's leaving to go tocollege here in about a month
and there's no basketball on, nofootball on.
You know, I can watch baseball,I can go to baseball games, but

(49:22):
I can't sit and watch baseballall day on the couch, so sports
is real thin right now.
I found myself watching women'sbasketball, which is fun,
that's fun, but I don't know alot of the players.
I need to get more into theplayers.
But I guess, telling mesomething good, it is the dog
days of summer.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
Love it.

Speaker 3 (49:42):
Yeah, the dog days of summer, I need to make myself
get up and get out and dosomething.
But this Austin Heat will holdyou hostage a little bit.
It'll hold you hostage but youdon't want to go outside.
But something good man is.
A lot of our viewers most ofour viewers maybe are in the
Austin area.
Just get out and go andexperience your city, man.

(50:03):
You live in a world-class city.
Go and experience it.
Lady Bird Lake, walking trailswith a lot of shade on it so you
don't have to be too hot.
Go to Zilker Park.
Go to all the watering holes.

Speaker 6 (50:15):
Deep Betty.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
Pool, deep Betty Pools, man and Barton Springs
Pool and then you can also hitup some old-school bars Me and I
, cat Brougham Spoke and thenyou got some new age bars out
there, man.
So go, enjoy your city.
Something good is, if you livehere, that you live in a good

(50:36):
city, that you can go out and dothings.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
I like it.
And Crousey Springs, wimberley,blue Hole.
I don't think Blue Hole's open.
That's at Sacred Waters, jacobsWell, I don't know if it's even
it finally replenished with therecent rainfall we've had, and
there's a lot of great places toget and go hike around Bull

(51:00):
Creek.
There's some other justbeautiful outdoor venues as well
.
Might tell me something good,kind of a two-part.
You know, something that I'vereally learned and I think a lot
of people need to hear is forpeople who people or things
reveal themselves that theyshould be in your life, let them

(51:21):
like mel robbins says.
I'm fully into it.
Let people be and let things behow it is.
You're not going to change it.
Yeah, don't let anything be thethief of your happiness.

Speaker 4 (51:37):
And your joy?
Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
My big.
Tell me something good To thegreat.
We have quite a following inthe state of Oklahoma.
We do, and that organization Iknow we dedicated a lot the
Oklahoma City Thunder winningthat first NBA championship.
I want to go a little deep herebecause I got emotionally tied

(52:02):
to that city.
I was there for roughly sixyears.
That city, I was there forroughly six years.
That city, the city of OklahomaCity, has been through hell
historically.
Obviously, the bombing in the90s, timothy McVeigh at the
Murrah Federal Building cost alot of lives and a lot of

(52:23):
children's lives.
The Oklahoma City BombingMemorial is one of the most
moving experiences that I'veever had and while I was there,
I only went three times.
There was a story here recently, one man who was killed in the
Murrah building and there'schairs which memorialize each

(52:45):
victim and the little bittychairs for the children.
Well, one of the men who losthis life in that bombing, his
children nowadays put a thunderjersey on that chair, oh wow, to
signify what he would haveloved.
Some of the most passionate,forward-thinking, comical, salt

(53:08):
of the earth, business minds,great human beings in Oklahoma
City, what that was with theThunder winning, and the most
passionate and prideful people.
30 years ago, that bombinghappened years ago.

(53:31):
That bombing happened 30 yearslater.
They are now.
If I know, they've had thethunder for 17 years, but now
officially yeah, across theworld, oklahoma city is known
for something different yeahthat bombing yeah oh, much love
to the.
I don't, I've never understoodwhat do you call a person from
oklahoma city?
Uh, okc people.

(53:52):
Let's just call them okc folks.
Much love to you, yeah,congratulations.
And to the thunder organization.
You did it right.
You develop your, your owngrown people.
That's a beautiful story andit's a beautiful tribute to that
wonderful city.
When you get a chance, visit OKC.

(54:14):
There is a lot more to it thanyou would ever imagine.
It's a controversial take.
I think the live music scenethere is better than it is here
in Austin, yeah, so shout out toOKC.
Much love to you and thank youfor watching and sharing our
content.
Thank you for all.
And to the great city ofShreveport, louisiana, the

(54:36):
hometown of the Stevie Lee andthe hometown to Hargrove Roofing
you know they've migrated overand they have quite a presence
here in central Texas.
And to the town of my collegealma mater, the home of the red
brick streets of nacogdoches indowntown.
And to my lovely hometown, thepristine and beautiful austin,

(54:56):
texas.
And to each of you, the storiesinside the man cave, viewer,
follower, listener much love toyou and your family.
Enjoy this great summer, enjoyevery day.
And to the OG man Cave boys,that being Harbaugh Harge Big
Mike and me, coach Mo.
What do we tell them, stevieLee?

Speaker 3 (55:17):
We out.

Speaker 5 (55:18):
You see the drip and I'm fitted up.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
I'm in my car, in a Gideon I said get out.
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