May 15, 2025 • 63 mins
What does true resilience look like? In one of our most powerful episodes to date, we sit down with Baylor wide receiver Josh Cameron and his mother Andrea for a conversation that transcends football, touching on faith, family, and facing life-threatening challenges.
Josh's journey from Cedar Park High School to Baylor began as a preferred walk-on, fighting for a place on special teams before earning his scholarship through relentless determination. Now ranked among college football's top 150 players and recognized as a Second Team All-American returner, Josh shares his unique perspective on navigating college athletics in the NIL era. Rather than chasing flashy purchases, this remarkable young man discusses his focus on investment strategies and "keeping the main thing the main thing."
But the heart of this episode belongs to Andrea Cameron, whose story left us speechless. Diagnosed with pulmonary fibrosis in 2007 and given just 2-3 years to live, Andrea defied medical expectations for 14 years before receiving a double lung transplant in December 2023. Just weeks later, she suffered cardiac arrest for nearly 20 minutes – a condition with a 99% mortality rate. Against overwhelming odds, she survived, then fought through the grueling process of relearning to walk and talk with one powerful motivation: "I'm not going to miss my baby's games." Not only did she make it to Josh's first game, but she attended every single one last season as Baylor's beloved team mom.
The Cameron family exemplifies how faith and familial bonds provide strength during life's most challenging moments. Their story might just be the perspective shift you need right now – if Andrea can relearn to walk to support her son, what obstacles are truly insurmountable in your life? Listen, share, and be inspired by this extraordinary mother-son duo.
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Speaker 2 (00:38):
Fin sends it out wide .
Cameron the catch and run.
Cameron breaking tackles.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Cameron into space.
It's a Baylor touchdown.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Stevie Lee.
It's been a minute man.
We've got a fun episode and Ithink it's the first mother-son
duo and stories inside the manCave podcast history and it is
the second appearance of proudBaylor moms.
We had Sheila Henderson, theauthor, co-author of a book.
(01:13):
She was a proud Baylor mom andthey were promoting their book,
but this is a first and you justsaw the son part and both.
I'll just say they're theCameras A belated Mother's Day
mom-son story, stevie, and youhave ties to them both.
I'll just say they're theCamerons.
A belated Mother's Day mom-sonstory, stevie, and you have ties
to them both, right.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
Yeah, we still go to church together.
Whenever they're back in town,they come over to Summit Worship
Center.
They're friends.
Yeah Well here's your tease.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
You get to see the smiling faces, a lot of love, a
lot of happiness right here, bigfamily, and there's a lot to be
happy about.
We're going to dive into thegrowing up part for the
gentleman in the middle rightthere and we're going to talk
about his path to Baylor.
(02:00):
And then some adversity, someserious adversity that his mom
overcame and wow, it's inspiring.
It gives me chills when I talkabout it and from afar, because
this has been wow, two years inthe making.
A lot of prayers have gone outto this woman and they have
uplifted.
And it's a great story becausethe son, he's overcome a lot to
(02:25):
get to where he is and so hasthe mom.
Stevie, you ready, brother,let's ride.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Let's ride, baby, but this is just not a
proportionate response todrawing a walk.
You didn't do anything, dude,you drew a walk while your team
is getting absolutely hammeredand now you're talking shit to
our players.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Wow, Wow, I've been steaming over this.
A 17-year-old freshman,Everybody on Twitter, I get it.
Everyone has an opinion.
This is not because it's Texas,but I saw all these people just
trashing a young man on Twitter.
No accountability, I get it.
I get it.
(03:34):
The traditional baseballetiquette you just take your
walk and go.
Jonah Williams had a Galvestonball two-way player football
baseball.
Stevie, first of all, yourreaction, because that was a lot
.
I mean, that's just a smallpart that I saw of the criticism
of Jonah Williams.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
What was your take on it, man?
I don't like baseball etiquette, man, because he is out there
having fun and you can't do thebat flip, man.
If I hit a homer, man, I wantto flip this bat as far as I can
.
So I don't really get baseballetiquette, but I also get
baseball etiquette.
The person that was talkingright there.
(04:18):
He's kind of right.
You took a ball, you took ballfour and you get the walk.
Did he take ball four becausehe's an incredible hitter to
where they did not want to pitchto him?
Or did he take ball fourbecause the pitcher was just off
?
And what are you celebrating?
The pitcher being off?
Or are you celebrating that youare an incredible hitter that
(04:38):
you have to take that no onewants to pitch to you?
That's fair.
Just take the ball four andthen just go, just take your
base.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Well, I'll give it.
I'll give that to you, but thatteam needed a spark.
Texas has now lost five of thelast seven games since being
number one.
Jonah is full of energy.
It trickled down and it carriedover into that Saturday game
and he came up big after atwo-hour rain delay.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Williams into left center field.
That is in there it bounces outto the fence.
Two runs in Farmer sent homeBase is clearing double for the
freshman and Texas has its firstlead of the weekend.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Okay, see, that's the type of kid he is.
He does not allow the big-timeatmosphere being the number
one-ranked team and criticism torattle him, and I think that
shows a lot of a freshman, ayoung person, in any sport.
And our guy that we're theco-guest, if you will, is very
(05:48):
similar he's not rattled notrattled at all.
Um, we're going to talk aboutwhere ut baseball stands.
If they're going to win the secchampionship regular season
because they had, they're on adownward turn right now.
Uh, but baseball, as you know,it is very, very much a streaky
(06:08):
sport, and so we'll get moreinto that.
I am Sean Clinch, by the way.
That is Stevie Lee, the co-hostof this series of Stories
Inside the man Cave the PassRush with Stevie Lee.
As you can tell, we would notbe anything without our sponsor
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(06:31):
trickled their way into thegreat state of Texas.
Stevie, you are the face ofHargrove Roofing.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
Hargrove Roofing know who's on your roof.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
That's beautiful man.
You can stand on anybody's roof.
I'd love to see a big man likeyourself not cave in a roof, but
I think you're good.
Hey, follow us on all of oursocials Facebook, ig, x, youtube
and TikTok and, stevie, you'dbe proud of me.
I finally updated TikTokbecause it's so much.
We probably need to putsomebody on payroll to handle
(07:16):
that, all right.
So I hate this.
I hate this when the biggestgame of a weekend is picked up
by the network which reallytakes great pride, in their noon
kickoff.
The rematch from last year'sCFP semifinal, the national
champion, ohio State and Texasup in Columbus, will be at noon.
Your thoughts?
Speaker 5 (07:35):
I like it to be a night game because it's going to
be a really big game, but Iguess I can wake up early, get
on the couch and go ahead andwatch.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
With your Yeti of water.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
Yeah, no question, hydration.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Hydration yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
That's going to be fun, man.
I'm really really lookingforward to it.
Man, I was in Dallas for thatgame and it really hurt.
That game really really hurtman.
I watched it on the bench inthe beginning of the season, but
I hope that these kids have areally good camp and come out
(08:11):
and just start.
You know, for lack of betterwords, hitting people in the
mouth, it's a revenge game, man.
You got to go up there in theirhouse and take their lunch.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Well, and there's plenty of guys from the CBS
Sports top 150 ranked players,if you will.
Here they are.
I mean, and I did leave off, Ijust kept some Texas ties in
there, there's just not enoughspace but 100, the top 150 in
the entire country rated by CBSSports for 2025.
(08:44):
I mean, you've got plenty ofLonghorns.
You've got Cade Klubnick fromWestlake, number two rated
player, the quarterback atClemson, A lot of Aggies, smu
TCU Baylor represented, and aformer Aggie quarterback, haynes
Keene, from Georgia Tech.
He's from Longview, texas.
(09:04):
You know he transferred out ofTexas A&M to Georgia Tech.
Everybody finds their home andthere's a tease right there of
our guest on the bottom.
Let's look at this the Cameronsmother son, josh Cameron, the
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receiver at Baylor University,and Andrea Cameron.
Welcome to the man cave.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
Thank you, thank you so much.
Absolutely, y'all are crackingme up.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
Hey, I'm sorry about the longhorn bias.
I know you guys are bears, Iknow I can do it.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
I appreciate it.
Hey, this is I kind of go backto with the Camerons when his
older brother and Josh wereplaying at Cedar Park.
They were playing for statechampionships back then.
Great kids, great parents,families, coaches, great
community.
We've got a lot to unbundlehere, but I've got to get you,
(10:13):
josh, your thoughts.
When you saw that top 150 listand there was your name at 145
to be included in that,considering when you left Cedar
Park I mean only you you knewyou were capable of something
like that right.
Speaker 7 (10:34):
Oh, yeah, for sure.
I think, first of all, justgetting included on that list is
just super, super huge and it'shonestly an honor that CBS
looks at me that way.
Obviously that competitivenessin me.
I'm like, shoot, I'm going togo, keep on climbing, get more
up on the ranks.
(10:54):
So no, it's definitely cool tosee my name up on there and then
see my teammate to be watchedthe running back.
He's a dog too, so it's anhonor.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Good.
So I got to ask Mom watch therunning back.
He's a dog too, so it's anhonor.
Good, so I gotta ask mom I meananything when you see your,
your son or any child uhmentioned or something amongst
the elite in the country.
I mean you.
You gave birth to this youngman.
You've celebrated everythinghe's achieved.
Was there a tear at all whenyou saw that list?
Speaker 6 (11:28):
I guess you know I get teary-eyed quite often.
Josh will tell you so itdoesn't take much for me.
So I mean, of course there wasa teary-eyed moment.
And then there was that moment,sort of like Josh said, where
I'm very competitive, so ourwhole family we're very
(11:49):
competitive, and you know I waslike well, shoot 145.
I mean that's too low, my babyneeds to be higher, so hey, but
I mean just yeah, it wasdefinitely great seeing him
recognized and just mentioned in, you know, in that type of
(12:09):
company going into the season.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Well, stevie, here you go, you can take off on this
subject.
I got to get a graphic pulledup while you're asking your
question.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Yeah, so the path from a secret park to Bagel we
talked about it off camera alittle bit.
That you came in as a walk-on,correct?
Yeah, you were one of thosepreferred walk-ons.
They wanted you to come there.
Preferred walk-on.
Yes, sir, Preferred walk-on.
And so tell us about when didthey go ahead and offer you the
(12:40):
scholarship and how did they doit?
So?
Speaker 7 (12:44):
yeah, no, you the scholarship.
And then how did they do it?
Um, so, yeah, no, so, kind ofbeforehand it was back going
back to high school.
This was 2020, uh, playoffs.
And then the playoffs were alittle bit later.
Um, it was, I believe it waslike third round.
I had a crazy game.
I had like 10 receptions, 100so my yards, and then like three
touchdowns.
And then basically after thatmoment, my coach had a
(13:07):
connection to Coach Wetzel.
He's basically like the guy whocoordinates with prefer
walk-ons and just kind of getsthem plugged in with the coaches
.
And so after that plug happened, I basically got noticed by
Baylor.
We were in contact with thereceiver coach, coach Aranda,
and the relationship juststarted to build.
So then after that, kind ofinto 2021, I believe January.
(13:34):
Do you remember?
the day, mom, I can't rememberexactly, was it like January?
Speaker 6 (13:40):
Yeah Well, actually at that point they had already
offered you a preferred walk-on,actually back in December.
Okay so you got the preferredwalk-on in.
Speaker 7 (13:50):
December and then just kind of wrestling about
where to go.
Yeah, that's what it was hadsome other schools look at me
for preferred walk-ons as well,but ultimately decided Baylor
because one my brother wentthere, so I was already familiar
with it.
Ultimately decided Baylorbecause one my brother went
there, so I was already familiarwith it.
Plus the way Coach Aranda wastalking, being able to talk to
head coach, and just the way hewas basically talking about me.
(14:11):
I really enjoyed that too.
So, knowing I was going to putmy head down, go to work, just
kind of grinded all the wayfreshman year just trying to get
on the field because I'm tryingto get that scholarship
basically.
So I was just always in the, uh, special teams coordinator's
office coach college at the timeand, uh, just always bugging my
(14:32):
a coach like what can I do this, this, this, that, um, after
practice, getting that lift inevery every day my boy, um, so
just things like that.
And so then I got on specialteams.
Towards the end of the year gotto play, play in the Big Toe
Championship, sugar Bowl, thingslike that.
So that was huge.
Then I had a solid spring that,following that following year,
started making my way more onthe offensive side, less special
(14:53):
teams.
Then after that spring I gotput on a scholarship.
So, yeah, no, it was it was allno.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
And so how did they do it?
Did they just call you in theoffice and give you a
scholarship?
And so how did they do it?
Speaker 7 (15:03):
Did they just call you in the office and give you a
scholarship.
You know, coach Randy, he's areal, he's a super low-key dude.
His assistant at the time sentme a text saying, hey, can you
come to the office?
I was like, oh, okay, sure, andthen I just walked out.
I was like what's up, coach?
And then he was like what's?
Speaker 3 (15:21):
up Josh, so we're going.
I said what Just like that.
Speaker 7 (15:27):
I was like what?
He's like man.
I was like thank you, coach, Ireally appreciate it.
He's like yes, sir.
So then that's what I call mypeople.
I was crying, talking to themon the phone, and then they
start crying.
They was driving too.
They was like yeah, I can'teven see the road, I'm crying.
So, and they was driving too,so they was like the crash, I
can't even see the road, I'mcrying.
So it was an awesome moment,though, for sure.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
But that's kind of how it went down, so y'all
didn't see it coming at all.
Speaker 7 (15:52):
then Honestly, no, not really.
I didn't think it was going tobe that soon, because I was
talking with Coach, I was likehey, what you thinking?
What do you need to see from metype deal.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
So he was just saying , you see, this blah blah didn't
give like a specific kind oftimeframe.
So, yeah, and in all honesty, Iknow for us, josh's his parents
we were really kind of naiveabout you know how PWOs work,
because I really thought I waslike, oh yeah, you can you know
how PWOs work, because I reallythought I was like, oh yeah, you
can.
You know, take this preferredwalk on and you know they'll
give you a scholarship sometimeduring your freshman year.
(16:31):
Well, it wasn't until we gotinto, you know, the football
stuff and we started meetingguys that were like seniors and
they were still waiting to geton scholarship and you know.
So we started to understand,like, how it all worked.
And even I don't even know ifJosh knows this, but my husband
and I we were really reallyhaving discussions about like,
(16:55):
wow, you know, are we going tobe able to keep them there?
You know what do we need to do?
Because you know Baylor is veryexpensive.
It's not cheap at all.
Um, so it was.
You know, it was one of thosethings that I mean it was such,
you know just God, timing andeverything.
Uh, because you know, like hesaid when he called us, uh, that
(17:19):
was the end of his firstofficial spring ball semester
like he was crying.
So I panicked.
I'm like you know, josh, what'swrong.
What's wrong.
You know I'm like, oh mygoodness.
And it just so happened that,you know, my husband and I, we
were in the car together and youknow, as he was trying to get
the words out and make the wordsout, when he finally did, yeah,
we all just had a big cry,that's awesome.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
That's good for you guys.
I know how much those privateChristian institutions cost.
My daughter just had hersigning day today to Avalon
University in Kansas City,missouri, to play volleyball.
(18:04):
I was going to say she'sMissouri to play volleyball.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
I was going to say she's going to play volleyball,
that's awesome.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
If it wasn't for volleyball, she wouldn't have
gone to college.
Yeah, this is a privateCatholic school.
Oh wow, they take academicsvery seriously up there.
If she didn't get a scholarship, we would probably be out close
to $200,000.
Speaker 6 (18:30):
Oh yeah, I totally believe it, without a doubt.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
Yeah, so I'm so happy that she played volleyball.
Yeah, yes.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
I'll tell you what, as Josh, since you've been a
student athlete at Baylor, afootball player, there's been a
lot of changes.
I mean, you came in, there wasNIL, was just a thought, there
were all these cases and nowwe're going to pretty much
eliminate the walk-ons at FBSlevel, expanding, I think, the
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roster size to 105 scholarships.
So this makes it sweeterbecause you have had to work
through it all and earneverything.
But deep down, this guy, Iremember him in high school.
I mean just cool, calm,collected, a leader, everything.
And then the reward the 2024breakout season.
(19:28):
And before I show you everyonethe numbers he's put up and I
know the majority of them werefrom last season this guy is
showing the NFL scouts hey, Ican win, make plays in many
different ways I mean even as aspecialist and it is returnable.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
But he did get away from that original surge.
Cameron, with space to move,hits the edge and a stiff arm
for Bassett, a convoy in frontof him with a flag down behind
at the 40.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
so you tell me a little bit about that.
I I helped me refresh my memorywere you a returner in high
school as well, at cedar park Iwasn't uh, I'm trying to think.
Speaker 7 (20:19):
I think it was the spring of 2023 season um we got
a new special teams coordinator,coach hancock, and so he
basically was just like, hey,have you ever done punt return
before?
I was like what I ain't neverdone punt return, kick return on
a day of my life.
So I was like I've never donethat.
(20:40):
He's like, you know, I coach adude who had like similar build,
you know kind of size like you,and so I think you'd be good
back there.
So I was like, shoot, I'll dowhatever it takes, coach, I'll
try it, I'll give it a shot, notthinking much of it, because
you know what I'm saying.
There's we had like guys likemoderating four, two guys.
I was like, oh, shoot, I don'teven know, but I gave it a shot
(21:02):
and I turned out to be prettygood at it.
I was consistent with thingslike that and then just kind of
kept on stacking and stackingand then just kind of turned out
to what it is today.
So, um, to answer your question, no, I I did not think I was
going to do part return ever, soit just kind of fell, fell into
my hands through hard work aswell.
So it's that was a.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
That was, that was a natural still form right there,
oh yeah.
Speaker 7 (21:26):
That's those running back days when I was younger.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Yeah, For sure.
He put Earl Campbell on, puthis Earl Campbell name on.
Look at that last line on thisgraphic.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
Second team All-American, all-american,
returner, that's awesome, that'sawesome.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
So when you look at this, I don't know what you can
say, and I know these days, as acollege football player, you
kind of have an idea.
Maybe not so much during theseason, but we are in the
preseason, if you will, oroffseason of next year.
You've got to feel good aboutwhere you stand for next year's
(22:07):
draft entering this season.
Am I exaggerating or am I justbeing biased towards you?
Speaker 7 (22:14):
Oh no, for sure, For sure.
I think just keeping the mainthing, the main thing, taking
care of this season and thenworking to that next kind of
phase of my life, is huge and soit's definitely there, but I
don't try to let it likeovertake me or anything like
that.
Right.
The main thing, the main thing.
But no, definitely, definitelyin a good position.
(22:34):
Just wanted to kind of stack onto that next upcoming season,
so for sure.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
Yeah, yeah, just keep working out, man.
You got tremendous upside toyou, I think you know, think the
base that you have right now.
I'm giving your mom and yourdad their flowers right now, man
, because you are a tremendousyoung man outside of football,
(23:04):
outside of everything else.
Just talking to you these lastfew minutes.
That's all I'm saying to yourmom and dad for raising a cool
kid in this crazy world rightnow.
The other thing I was thinking,man, that you did all of this
coming out of Cedar Park inthese COVID times.
So you were in high school, inprime high school, junior senior
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year, during COVID and remotelearning, and trying to figure
all this stuff out.
I can't imagine doing that,trying to figure out where I
need to go to play football nextor go to school next during
this whole crazy COVID time.
So hats off to just a strongbase foundation, which is God,
(23:51):
I'm sure, with you, and thenfamily.
You know what I'm saying.
So you guys, you guys done agreat job.
Andrea.
This is awesome to see thisyoung man flourish right now.
This is good, thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Thank you Definitely appreciate it Now that's a great
story and it's about to geteven better as we dive into this
.
But we got to ask you, josh andSteve and I you know,
throughout during footballseason, he and I we do this
series every week and it's notjust Texas, it's the entire
country region.
You guys got off to a reallyslow start last year and then
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all of a sudden you guys went onthis run and you and I talked
about it before we started thisepisode.
You lost some guys on thedefensive side, but do you feel
like you've got enough piecesand, with the portal and
everything else, that Baylor canmake a similar run or just play
(24:46):
off of how you finished?
Speaker 7 (24:49):
oh, oh, yeah, no, for sure.
I think taking that momentumand carrying it to this next
season is really just vital.
Really, throughout the springwe got to this is probably the
most kind of early enrolling andtransfer we've ever had since
I've been at Baylor.
So just trying to get thoseguys plugged in and connected
and just kind of seeing how theyjust kind of move forward and
(25:10):
just kind of climb.
That's the spring went on.
So I think we're in a great,great spot, for sure, for sure.
So I'm just super excited forAugust 30th, august 29th, I
can't remember which day, but toplay Auburn primetime.
So, yeah, no, I'm, I'm superexcited for that momentum.
So definitely, definitely wantto shoot way, way higher than
(25:34):
what, uh, last year was, butlast year was definitely a good
start, for sure both.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
I'll start with you, andrea, and then josh,
navigating this, the nil and theportal arrow.
We're all for it.
Yeah, and I'll start with you.
With you, andres, I said I mean, do you as a parent, what is it
like?
Because that's a lot thrown ata young person.
(25:59):
Oh yeah, opportunities whichthey should have.
Speaker 6 (26:02):
Mm-hmm, absolutely.
I guess the first word thatcomes to mind is madness, but
it's a, you know, it's a mad,mad world.
You know, on the on the onehand, I love that the players
are, you know, are able tobenefit from their name, image
and likeness.
It's a real blessing with the,the income and you know the, the
(26:26):
financial gains that theplayers are able to make while
they're in college.
But I think it can be, it cankind of be a double edged sword
if you don't have a good supportsystem around you.
And you know, because the moneyis coming so fast and so
furious, I think, a lot of times, you know, guys get stuck in
(26:49):
the trap of making decisionsjust based on money instead of
making decision based on what'sreally truly best for them.
As a football player, even youknow, academically, when it
comes to getting their degree,there are a lot of things that
you have to consider before youjust chase money.
But you know.
But I understand because, likeI said, the money.
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But you know, but I understandbecause, like I said, the money
is, you know, when you don't,when you're not used to having.
You know all of this, you knowthis massive cash flow that
schools are throwing at you.
It can be, you know, can bereally, really just intense.
It can be mad.
Stevie, I was sharing with Seanthe other day that I know for
Joshua his offseason was reallyinteresting because we're in the
(27:34):
land of poaching now and sothere were a lot of schools
coming after Josh.
So while he didn't getrecruited coming out of high
school, he got recruited.
You know teams looking at theportal and you know they're
going to pay them X, y, z dollarand they're going to do this,
they're going to do that, youknow.
So that was pretty intense.
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I know Josh got tired of it alland you know he's like Mom, I'm
tired of it, I'm tired of it,but you know, again, it's, it's
one of those things, just as aparent watching and going
through it, you know, like Isaid, they're, they're certainly
good.
You know it comes with the goodand bad.
I wish everyone had a just astrong support system to help
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them navigate it.
So we're just, you know,fortunate and blessed, you know,
and Josh has always been veryopen with us.
He's, you know, he's just likemost of the calls Josh gets,
he's like call my mom, call mymom, call my dad, you know.
So he's, you know, but he'sthat type of guy.
He's like, hey, I'm not goingto try to figure this out by
myself.
And you know some guys his agethey do, and you know, before
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they know it, their parents arekind of like what?
What just happened?
Yeah, that's, you know, that'skind of my, you know my take.
And I know there's going to bea lot of refinement along the
way, because you know thecurrent system that's in place.
It just you know it needs work.
But I definitely think it's agood thing and you know I want
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to see it continue when it comesto taking care of our athletes.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
Yeah, I think what you said is Josh said call my
mom, call my dad, because hesaid it earlier keep the main
thing, the main thing.
I just want to play football.
Yeah, that's great, and stayingat Baylor is a testament of
what he just want to playfootball.
And staying at Baylor is atestament of what he just want
to play football.
Oh, yeah, that's good, but letmy mom and dad handle the
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business side, because now it'sa business.
It's more of a business, right,yeah, and I want these guys to
get every penny that they canoff their name, their image and
likeness, because we had aconversation before.
They use my image and likenessand I haven't seen a Don.
Still, they didn't use my name,they couldn't use name, but
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they used image and likeness.
Yeah, but I'm so happy thatthese guys are able to get paid
off of their hard work.
Speaker 6 (30:07):
Yeah, their hard work .
Yeah, I totally agree.
Yeah, they're hard work, Itotally agree, that's for sure.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
Again, hats off to you guys for managing that part
of it.
Give me a hundred grand at 19years old.
I don't know where I'll be.
Speaker 6 (30:24):
I'll say, even to Josh's credit, though he's been
blessed, baylor's done a goodjob with taking care of him and
Josh has been a he.
His mind when it comes to moneyis just, it's just always kind
of been different compared tosome guys.
You probably won't really seehim with big jewelry pieces or
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whatever, but you know he can.
He can tell you about the stockmarket, he can tell you which
stocks he's buying, and you knowso he can tell you about the
stock market.
He can tell you which stockshe's buying, and you know so.
He's always been investmentfocused and uh, you know, and I,
we, we appreciate that so muchabout him.
Um, and he's not, you know,he's not one to just like blow
money, he's just kind of likeokay.
So that's, that's really coolwatching as a parent, because
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we're like OK, he's going to beOK, he's going to be OK.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
Yeah, I think he's like one of my clients.
I deal with a lot of athletesand this person make a lot of
money, a lot of money in hisprofessional sport and and I
said, what do you spend yourmoney on?
Because he has an old car hegot when he first drafted still
and I was like, what do youspend your money on?
And Josh, you'll like this,he's like video games, that's it
(31:38):
, that's what's up.
So he probably got one of those$1,500 headsets, $2,000 chair.
You know he got it all.
Actually, those chairs can getup to $5,000, $2,000 chair you
know, he got it all.
Those chairs can get up to$5,000, $10,000, you know, oh my
gosh?
Yeah, I'm sure he has somethinglike that.
He's probably I know he's overa $20 million a year athlete,
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right?
Wow, just old car, modest houseand he spent his money on
gaming.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
Man, so Joshua one thing whenever you have any day
trading advice, just shoot for aweek.
Because, I'm not afraid toadmit it, I play a little with.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Robin Hood.
We're sure, with the Robin Hoodapp, you know, we're sure.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Here's the one story that a lot of people can relate
to.
It was tough to watch this fromafar because it was just like,
okay, who, andre?
You're the first person I'venever I've heard of it.
But when you had to have adouble lung transplant and you
sent me one of the most powerfulphotos, the before and after
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and I'll start with you, josh, Imean you're watching your mom
struggle health-wise, to seeingthat, mean, it's your mom, and I
know you probably had thathelpless feeling.
A lot of prayers, whatnot, butat any point did you think that
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you would see her how she is now?
Speaker 7 (33:26):
Just a totally different, much healthier woman.
Yeah, no for sure.
The whole process was honestlyscary and I'm sure my mom will
hit more on it here in a littlebit.
But she actually went throughcardiac arrest for like 19
minutes and so that's kind ofthe reason why she was like that
in that photo and I didn't knowthat at the time.
I really just thought that waskind of like a part of the lung
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transplant process.
So my grandma and my mom, myaunt, they did a good job of
kind of shielding me from thatand just trying not to get me
too riled up because I was goingthrough school and spring ball
and all that.
But I think that really justgoes to show how really strong
my mom is, how brave she is andreally just how courageous she
is, and I honestly knew that shewas going come out on top.
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Honestly, I remember going downthere to help her to relearn
how to walk after that and justencouraging her and just seeing
that passion.
And, um, one of the times whenI went down there she actually
set a record walking, and sothat's, that's something I
remember that'll always stickwith me for the rest of my life,
but not just seeing, seeingwhere she is now, to where she
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was then I mean she's, she's thebiggest inspiration, for sure
that's beautiful man, that isabsolutely beautiful man.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
That's uh, andrea, if you, if you will, whatever part
of the story health-wise.
What exactly was this?
Something that had deterioratedover time?
What happened?
Speaker 6 (34:57):
Yeah.
So I was diagnosed withpulmonary fibrosis back in May
of 2007.
And and at that time I wasgiven a you know, it's a
terminal diagnosis I was toldthat I would have two to three
years, that basically, I had twoto three years left to live at
that point, and that was May ofseven.
The technology, the way thelung transplant technology has
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changed and has advanced overthe years, Back in 07, Josh was
four and his older brother was11.
When Josh was four and hisolder brother was 11.
And when they sent me to SanAntonio to, you know, be
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considered for a lung transplant, the doctor said well, we can
do the lung transplant and it'llprobably give you another two
to three years.
And so I said well, okay, havethe transplant.
You're saying another two tothree years, don't have the
transplant.
And you're saying two to threeyears.
So, and again, it was all basedon just where the lung
transplant technology was at thetime.
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The lungs have historicallybeen under understudied and
underfunded, and even, you know,true to this day.
But anyway, so my husband and I, of course, we are people of
faith and in our prayers, afterwe, you know, just prayed about
it and, you know, of course, gotover the initial shock and you
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know the whole thing.
We really believe that.
You know we heard God say no tothe transplant, that we were
going to stand in faith and, youknow, believe God for just a
miracle.
And that miracle came because,from 2007, all the way until
2021, I was, you know, rockingand rolling.
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Now I was being medicallytreated.
So you know they were doingthings.
You know I was taking all kindsof medicines.
There were differentexperimental things that came up
along the way and and, honestly, my doctors were amazed, they
couldn't figure out.
They were like we don't knowwhat's going on, because the
progression of the diseaseliterally stopped.
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Because the progression of thedisease literally stopped and
you know, like I said, it wasjust the whole process where,
you know, it was one of thosethings where God had his hand
all over it.
But in 2021, because I wasliving with such depleted lungs
meaning, you know, my bodywasn't getting enough oxygen it
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started to affect my heart.
So at that point, the only curefor the pulmonary heart disease
that developed was a doublelung transplant, and it was
something that the doctorscouldn't wait on.
Any longer is December 31st,2023 is when I actually received
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the double lung transplant andand I was doing great, I was,
the transplant went great.
I was up and talking and doingmy thing and fully recovering.
And you know, the doctors werelike, oh, my goodness, this is
the best transplant, my goodness, this is the best transplant.
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And you know the whole thing.
And then, January 18th, 2024,which is you know what you have
the picture from I was, I wassitting up and I was telling my
husband I was like honey, I'mreally really hot.
I was just like burning up.
And I was like, you know, babe,can you ask the nurses, you
know, see, if there's a fan orsomething here in the hospital?
So he's like running aroundtrying to find a fan.
And you know he couldn't find afan.
(38:34):
So he came back to the room andhe was like, hey, I can't find
a fan, so I'll just run over towalmart and buy one.
And I was like, yeah, yeah,give me a fan because I'm like
I'm so, so, hot.
So in the meantime, my mom is,you know, giving me like cold
towels and stuff.
But she had to take off to gocheck on the rehab facility that
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I was supposed to be leavingand, you know, going into rehab
with.
So the two of them left at thesame time, within about five
minutes of them leaving this iswhat I'm told.
I literally just, you know,dropped dead, as they say, and I
was in full on cardiac arrestand it was.
It took them almost 20 minutesto get my heartbeat back and it
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was.
You know, like I said, thewhole thing is just such a
miraculous process Because evenone of my nurses told me they
later found out the conditionthat caused it, and I can't
remember the name.
I should have written it down.
But the condition that causedthe cardiac arrest is a really
it's a rare, rare condition and,like I said, I apologize that I
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didn't get information.
But this particular conditionhas a 99% mortality rate.
So, like less than 1% of theindividuals that go into cardiac
arrest because of thiscondition survive, and these are
individuals, like, whetherthey're in the hospital or not.
So you know, and again, thatwas explained to me later on in
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the process, and God had hishand on me, even the nurse, one
of my nurses, the one thatimmediately started CPR, she
told me.
She said, you know, because shewas crying and because it was
months before I could talk and,you know, do any of that, I
literally had to relearn tofunction in every sense of the
(40:32):
word.
So I'm having this conversationwith her and she was telling me
.
She said, you know, she said,every time I look at you,
whenever I come in here, shesaid, I just get teary eyed
because she said, number one,normally when a patient codes
the way you do, she told me.
She said, normally they will,you know, try to resuscitate
(40:53):
seven, maybe eight minutes max.
And she said, but in your case,the doctors, you know just, you
know, kept saying let's keepgoing, let's keep going, let's
keep going.
The doctors wouldn't stop andyou know so, even though we're
going on, you know, 20 minutes,you know, the doctors were just
like no, we're not going to callit.
We're not going to call it, andyou know.
And then, like I said then,when I found out medically what
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happened and I was just like wow, god, you are so, you know, so
amazing.
God is so good.
So that's, that's what thepicture is from.
And because I had to relearn howto do everything, I tell
everyone it's like the hardestthing I've ever experienced in
my life.
So hats off to athletes, anyonethat has to rehab to do
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anything, because I mean, therewere so many days that I was
like I'm cooked, I'm done, Ijust, you know, I never thought
I would be able to walk again,even being able to talk.
I mean there were just so manythings that I just, you know, I
never I didn't know if I wouldbe able to do it again, and but
I did know that.
You know, I always promisedJosh, I was like baby, you know,
(42:03):
I'm not going to miss yourgames.
You know mama's going to bethere, Mama's going to be there,
and so that was kind of one ofmy goals.
I knew that, ok, my baby'sgoing to have a game coming up
in August and mama's got to bethere.
So that was my goal.
And I was at his first game andI was at every game this season
.
So it was just such a blessingyeah.
Speaker 4 (42:23):
That is.
And to add to it, you've earneda new title and you can put on
your resume if you'd like.
It may already be on there, butthe Baylor team mom job.
That's a big title to carry.
I mean what?
All does your mom have to do,Because that's a lot of work in
my opinion.
Speaker 7 (42:44):
I don't even know all the details.
I don't know all the details.
I know she's got to organizedifferent events and stuff.
Now I'm like okay.
Speaker 4 (42:53):
Yes yes yes, that's, I mean you.
You literally are an extensionof the athletic department,
right?
Speaker 6 (43:03):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, that's what we do.
It's, it's fun, it's.
You know, it really is justabout keeping things organized
and and kind of being thatliaison between the parents and
the inside the building, so tospeak, and making sure that
we're straight on everything onour end as parents.
But, yeah, no, that's a lot offun.
Speaker 4 (43:24):
Stevie, who was your team mom at Texas.
Speaker 5 (43:27):
I don't think we had one bro.
Speaker 4 (43:28):
You had Sally Brown Mac's wife right.
Speaker 5 (43:33):
Sally was.
I don't know if she was a teammom, but she was one of them.
She would do.
She would hand out cookies tous as we got on the plane for a
away game.
Speaker 6 (43:45):
Oh, my yeah.
Speaker 7 (43:46):
That's fine, I have to up my game then I was going
to say hey, mom, you need towake up at the airport Getting
out and make some cookies.
I know.
Speaker 6 (43:57):
I know my mother would in a heartbeat.
She'd be like oh, oh, we needto make cookies.
Oh, my goodness.
Speaker 4 (44:21):
All right, this is where we have fun.
We've had some really fun.
I mean stories I still laughabout to this day.
Josh, do you and your mom havea story that could be deemed man
Cave story-esque?
That's just as amusing now asit was when it happened.
Speaker 7 (44:41):
Man, I'm trying to think that's a tough question.
Give me a little down yourfingers song, you got anything
Mom.
Speaker 6 (44:52):
I don't know why, but the thing that comes to mind is
you and that silly YouTubechannel with the whole thing
about getting a whooping.
Speaker 3 (45:07):
Oh, I was getting a whooping.
Speaker 7 (45:20):
I was doing the unboxing.
I have like a little YouTubechannel.
I was grinding.
I was doing the unboxings.
I was doing the little BeanBoozled Challenge, the little
jelly beans, with my mom.
I was doing it all.
I was doing it all.
This one video I made wasbasically talking about
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basically like the last whoopingI ever got from my parents and
so I could basically my brother.
He basically like put me on astrategy.
He was like, all right, bro, solook, that's what you got to do
for it to hurt less, rightbefore you get whooped just
clench your butt, cheeks I wastrying to get the woman, uh, and
(46:03):
I did that, and so right beforemy dad whooped me, I clenched
up and then I hit, hit.
I was like, oh shoot.
I actually started laughingbecause it didn't hurt at all.
Speaker 3 (46:15):
It didn't hurt at all .
Speaker 7 (46:17):
And so I was just looking like okay.
And so then after thatbasically that was the last
whoop I received my dad wentback to my mom and was just like
hey, I think we need to trysomething different.
We need to start takingelectronics because I think you
done grew up the whoopin'.
That whole story is on myYouTube channel, who's also a
(46:38):
creator, that's a good one.
Speaker 6 (46:42):
His brother told him to squeeze up his booty cheeks.
Squeeze those butt cheeks andthat would absorb the pain, and
he literally broke my husband.
As a result, my husband losthis will.
Speaker 5 (46:59):
I think we got to try something else.
Oh man.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
Oh man, that's a good one.
Speaker 6 (47:06):
No, we stayed up for hours talking about that, I was
like man, oh, man, that's a goodone.
No, we stayed up for hourstalking about that.
I was like listen.
I'm trying to encourage myhusband.
Like, come on, man, get back inthe game, you can do this, you
can do this.
That's the truth.
My husband's like babe the boylaughed at me.
Speaker 3 (47:24):
The boy laughed at me .
Speaker 4 (47:27):
He's those cheeks man .
I wish I would have done that,oh my God.
Hey, it hurts me worse than ithurts you, Did you?
Ever hear that Literally,stevie, we're going to end this
episode when we end it here, inabout 15 minutes, don't you feel
?
Speaker 5 (47:46):
inspired by them?
No, no question.
So you know, the boy-momrelationship is similar to the
daddy-daughter relationship.
Yeah, for sure.
I'm sitting here smiling withyou guys.
I love it.
My two babies are my heart man.
My two girls.
I got two girls and you havetwo boys.
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Andrea.
They're in my heart.
I'm hoping that I have arelationship with my baby when
she goes off to college.
Like this, she's leaving inAugust.
Hats off to you guys, man, it'sfun talking to y'all.
Great story I now have a.
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Now that we don't play theUniversity of Texas and Baylor
don't play each other in theregular season yeah, now I have
a favorite bear.
Speaker 7 (48:37):
I appreciate it, I appreciate it I have a favorite
bear, thank you.
Speaker 5 (48:41):
Thank you.
When Longhorns aren't playing,it's sick them right.
There you go.
Sick them bears, man.
So go out there and do yourthing, man.
Good luck this season.
Work hard this offseason, man.
You know what to do.
Just work hard this offseason.
Put your head down and make themain thing the main thing, and
just play football.
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Yes, sir, sage, advice Playfootball and your mom and dad
got your back.
They'll handle all of the restfor you, but you just stay
between that.
What is it?
53 yards by 110, 120 yards.
Speaker 3 (49:15):
That's all you need to do, man.
Speaker 7 (49:16):
Yes, sir, that's, it.
Speaker 5 (49:17):
And keep returning that ball.
Speaker 7 (49:19):
Yes, sir.
Speaker 4 (49:21):
Stevie relay the message you tell your lovely
wife whenever she startsthinking negativity.
What do you tell her?
Speaker 5 (49:29):
Yo get out of your head.
It's scary in there, that'shard, that's hard.
Speaker 7 (49:33):
Yeah, I'm going to keep that one.
I'm going to keep that one.
Speaker 4 (49:39):
We're going to be pulling for you, Josh, and the
entire Cameron family.
For sure I've got allergiesright now.
You can tell I'm choking up.
I'm not sad.
Speaker 5 (49:47):
No, you're crying.
You're crying because of thestory.
Man, it's okay to cry.
Man, it's okay to cry.
Oh gosh, Jeez, man, oh my gosh.
Speaker 7 (49:56):
Thank you all so much .
I appreciate y'all.
Speaker 6 (49:58):
Yeah, thank you so much.
I appreciate this and justy'all giving Josh the
opportunity to talk about hisstory and all of that, so we
just appreciate being on withy'all.
Speaker 4 (50:11):
We appreciate you guys because it's a great story,
it's inspiring and you guys areamazing people.
On top of all that, we're goingto take a quick break and
before you guys leave, you couldprobably I want y'all to see
Stevie acting, but when we comeback we're going to try to
figure out how the Texasbaseball team can win the SEC.
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It's not as hard as you think.
Plus man, we got a kid whostuck his hand in a cardinal
bitum and he doesn't understandwhy.
A little eight-year-old hassome choice words that he's
probably going to get a whippingfor and maybe he should have
clenched his cheeks.
Much love to the Camerons andwe'll see you on the other side.
Speaker 3 (50:56):
Joe Much love.
No, thank you.
Speaker 2 (50:59):
Here at Hargrove Roofing we try to think outside
the box, to kind of get thecreative juices flowing.
So I brought in my friendStevie Lee, former defensive
tackle for the Texas Longhorns.
He's going to help the teamstrategize, really motivate them
.
Light a fire.
Speaker 5 (51:13):
This guy's going to block down.
This guy's going to block down.
You put your butt into theguard and that way my Mike
linebacker gets free to do what.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
Not only are they going to learn a thing or two,
but they're going to also leavewith a great attitude and a
bunch of smiles on their faces.
Speaker 7 (51:30):
I'm sorry.
What does this have to do withroofing?
Exactly?
Speaker 3 (51:36):
Get out Right now.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
I said get out For me .
That's what it's all about.
It's just having fun making ouremployees have a great time.
Speaker 3 (51:58):
Hargrove Roofing.
Know who's on your roof?
I fucking tell you to take, youtake.
Don't tell me you don't see it.
You fucking look.
You understand, I don't give ashit.
Like I said 15 minutes from now, you don't give a fuck, you
walk out of here.
I gotta live with thismotherfucking, fucking,
(52:20):
embarrassing game the rest of myfucking life.
I have totally fucking failedyou guys.
We got beat at every singlefucking part of this.
Everything, everything,everything.
Infield play two out hittingeverything.
(52:43):
Totally fucking stupid.
I'm sorry, I apologize, I havetotally let you down.
Speaker 4 (52:59):
Great Agui Garrido.
Hey, he knew what he was doing.
But when you playuncharacteristically and
honestly, the current Longhornsgreat team, they've lost their
number one pitcher for the yearand I think that has hurt them
because they're trying to getthat rotation together in their
(53:21):
bullpen Stevie.
They have lost five of the lastseven games but you know know
they were number one.
They're probably still going tobe a national top eight seed
when the regionals start.
Um, I don't think there's a lotof panic, but there is a
concern now that this team maynot be a college World Series
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team as of this moment.
Speaker 5 (53:48):
Yeah, I don't think that.
I think that we're still aWorld Series team.
I mean, just five out of thelast seven we were ranked number
one in the country.
It's just a mid-season slumpright now and we can get back on
track.
Let's not throw out the babywith the bath.
You don't want to do that, youdon't.
(54:12):
So I don't think that we'redown and out.
We may be down right now, butwe're not out.
Speaker 4 (54:18):
Well, the hitting is now struggling.
They had one big inning in thatgame too, against Florida.
Granted Florida's good, butthey let a freshman pitcher
pretty much dominate them.
If I remember correctly, onSunday, they've got to get the
run production back.
They've got to figure out thispitching rotation and they enter
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the last week of the regularseason this weekend at Oklahoma.
Oklahoma is now below 500 inthe SEC.
If I did my math correctly andI think I'm usually accurate
correct me if I'm wrong, ifyou're watching Texas just needs
to win one game in Norman ofthe three to clinch at least a
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share of the SEC regular seasontitle.
Speaker 5 (55:07):
Okay, I don't know that one, I can't correct you.
Yeah, so that, yeah, so that'swhat I'm saying.
We're maybe down right now, butwe're not out.
Speaker 4 (55:16):
No, they're not out, but I'm looking at longevity.
Can they repair this to where Ithink they can get out of there
, because they're going to hosta regional.
If they win that, they're goingto host a super regional.
I think they'll get out of aregional.
Okay, I don't think the SECtournament is important.
I think they do need to utilizeit to get their staff pitching
(55:40):
staff and get that swagger backin their lineup, because they've
got dudes and they've got thebest closer in the game, if not
one of the best.
But I think they have not hadany slumps in this season until
now.
Late yeah, is this enough time?
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I think they can get ittogether, but it's just.
Baseball is a funky game.
It'll break your heart, it'sstreaky.
So win one at OU, because OU isgoing to be desperate now to
get back on the winning ways.
Now you live up near Cedar Parkman.
I went with a fraternitybrother of mine.
He lives in Cedar Park.
I hadn't been to the HEB slashCedar Park Center since I was in
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the media and the AAA affiliateof the Dallas Stars.
Dude this atmosphere right here.
Off the chain.
That game they won that playoffseries against Grand Rapids
(56:47):
Michigan.
They were down 4-1, 3-4, 4-1,came back and won in double
overtime.
That place was on its feet,jumping, jumping Good stuff.
Have you been to that arena for?
Speaker 5 (56:59):
a while I've been to the arena.
I haven't been to a hockey gameyet.
Speaker 4 (57:02):
Dude, you got to.
I'm telling you, you, everyonewatching bring your mamas
Belated Mother's Day gift, takethem to a Texas Stars playoff
game.
And guess who was sitting nextto me on this side?
Who's that?
My urologist.
Are you serious?
Dr Carl Bischoff urologist, bigshout out.
(57:22):
He's seen a lot of things ofmine.
He's really good at it.
Well, good at being a urologist.
Big fan of Dr Bischoff.
This video is kind ofdisturbing the tick-tocking and
the man cave.
A little kid put his finger upto what looked like a cardinal
and didn't understand why thishappened.
(57:44):
It's all about cause and effect.
Speaker 3 (57:49):
Ow, ow, shit.
What the shit, shit, ow.
Why did he bite me?
Speaker 4 (58:04):
Why are they?
Speaker 5 (58:04):
holding a cardinal.
Yeah, that's one question one.
Question two is why you putyour finger up there.
And question three who is thiskid hanging around?
Speaker 4 (58:16):
Yeah, he didn't learn that language on his own.
Speaker 5 (58:20):
Yeah, who is this kid hanging around?
I mean, sounds like one of myfriends he's hanging around.
Speaker 3 (58:26):
I actually hey man, Tell me something good.
Speaker 4 (58:36):
All right, stevie, great episode and we got to end
on positivity.
Tell me something good, mybrother.
Speaker 5 (58:43):
Man, I had something all lined up, but our guest
today, that was something goodman.
So happy that Andrea is herestill with us with her son doing
great things and her husbandGaze.
They're just a good family,good people all around.
(59:06):
I'm so happy that we go tochurch together, we can do life
together, but they're they'rejust good people, man.
So she inspired me that youknow you can do anything out
here, man.
Her telling us that she had torelearn to walk and she wanted
to go to her son's game.
So she made that a goal of hers, pushed herself, she pushed
herself so she can to go to herson's game.
(59:26):
So she made that a goal of hers,pushed herself she she pushed
herself so she can make it toher her baby's game and so, um,
that's inspirational man and I'msure she, he, she inspired uh,
josh, and josh inspired her.
So that was.
That was really cool to hear.
That's something good.
That's something I will alwaystake with me, man, the adversity
(59:49):
that she has gone through andthey have overcome and they're
still overcoming it.
That's an awesome story,awesome comeback story from a
great family, personal friendsof ours.
Speaker 4 (01:00:04):
I'll tell you something good, and I'm going to
be a little vulnerable here.
I'm a great family, personalfriends of ours.
I'll tell you something goodand I'm going to be a little
vulnerable here.
I won't people.
I'm going to do a coffee withclinch episode, strictly on this
.
But I'm just going to not shareeverything that I've shared
with Stevie.
But I think everyone this isget therapy, therapy.
I haven't been to therapy inalmost two decades.
(01:00:26):
I just had some things in lifecatch up with me recently and I
was not myself for three weeks,really down, not understanding
why.
Started therapy?
About what?
Stevie five weeks ago, five orsix weeks ago, mm-hmm, six weeks
and, to make it short to thepoint, I really was not feeling
(01:00:50):
like myself.
Just nothing positive.
I wasn't that extreme, but Ijust felt low.
So we came out with a timelineand so we realized, through this
therapist, that I have hadsomething that I've never used
before, but I have, since 2019,trauma and significant changes
(01:01:15):
in my life from 19, 20, 21, 22,23, 24, and now 2025 All
compiled.
What did I do?
I just kept going, thinkingthat I did the work, Packing it
all in until it surfaced.
I cracked, not going to lie.
Now we're on the road torecovery.
(01:01:37):
That's why we haven't done apodcast in three weeks.
Got you, that's all good, it'srecovery and healing.
Yes.
Speaker 5 (01:01:46):
I want to encourage people to do that.
Yep, well, I've said this toyou, man, I got your back, I got
you me.
You call I got you man, um,you're uh, I don't know if you
can call an accountabilitypartner or whatever, but I'm
here.
Stevie lee is here, I'll.
I'll stop pass rushing to comeand help you.
Speaker 4 (01:02:07):
Hey, that's true, brother, I do the same for you
and your family, for sure I know.
But there's a lot of uh, lotsto gain out of this and I've
learned, I'm learning, a lotthat I just didn't take the time
to stop and do.
I thought I did Uh.
But there's a lot of specialpeople in our lives and, stevie,
(01:02:28):
much love to you, brother,appreciate you, you too, man,
you too.
So for the great city ofShreveport, louisiana, the
hometown of the Stevie Lee andthe hometown of Hargrove Roofing
, much love to the Hargrovefamily.
We love them.
They're fine.
Americans Support them and youknow we've got hellstorms galore
even this time of year.
Call Hargrove Roofing, stevie,what do you say to that?
Speaker 5 (01:02:53):
Hargrove Roofing Know who's on your roof 100%.
Speaker 4 (01:02:56):
And to Mike, the town that is the home of my college
alma mater, stephen F, austin,in Nacogdoches, texas, in Texas,
in the red big streets ofdowntown NAC, go visit, and
behind the pine curtain.
And to my beautiful hometown,austin, texas, and to you, the
beautiful people watching andlistening to these episodes much
love to you and to everybodyShare, like, follow.
(01:03:17):
We appreciate you guys.
And to everybody everybody,thank you, thank you.
And to the OG man Cave boys,that being Harbaugh, harge, big
Mike and knee coach Mo.
Speaker 7 (01:03:34):
What do we tell them?
Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
Stevie Lee, we out.
You see the drip and.
Speaker 5 (01:03:36):
I'm fitted up, I'm in my car, in a Gideon.
I said get out.
I said get out.
Fin sends it out wide .
Cameron the catch and run.
Cameron breaking tackles.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Cameron into space.
It's a Baylor touchdown.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Stevie Lee.
It's been a minute man.
We've got a fun episode and Ithink it's the first mother-son
duo and stories inside the manCave podcast history and it is
the second appearance of proudBaylor moms.
We had Sheila Henderson, theauthor, co-author of a book.
(01:13):
She was a proud Baylor mom andthey were promoting their book,
but this is a first and you justsaw the son part and both.
I'll just say they're theCameras A belated Mother's Day
mom-son story, stevie, and youhave ties to them both.
I'll just say they're theCamerons.
A belated Mother's Day mom-sonstory, stevie, and you have ties
to them both, right.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
Yeah, we still go to church together.
Whenever they're back in town,they come over to Summit Worship
Center.
They're friends.
Yeah Well here's your tease.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
You get to see the smiling faces, a lot of love, a
lot of happiness right here, bigfamily, and there's a lot to be
happy about.
We're going to dive into thegrowing up part for the
gentleman in the middle rightthere and we're going to talk
about his path to Baylor.
(02:00):
And then some adversity, someserious adversity that his mom
overcame and wow, it's inspiring.
It gives me chills when I talkabout it and from afar, because
this has been wow, two years inthe making.
A lot of prayers have gone outto this woman and they have
uplifted.
And it's a great story becausethe son, he's overcome a lot to
(02:25):
get to where he is and so hasthe mom.
Stevie, you ready, brother,let's ride.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Let's ride, baby, but this is just not a
proportionate response todrawing a walk.
You didn't do anything, dude,you drew a walk while your team
is getting absolutely hammeredand now you're talking shit to
our players.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Wow, Wow, I've been steaming over this.
A 17-year-old freshman,Everybody on Twitter, I get it.
Everyone has an opinion.
This is not because it's Texas,but I saw all these people just
trashing a young man on Twitter.
No accountability, I get it.
I get it.
(03:34):
The traditional baseballetiquette you just take your
walk and go.
Jonah Williams had a Galvestonball two-way player football
baseball.
Stevie, first of all, yourreaction, because that was a lot
.
I mean, that's just a smallpart that I saw of the criticism
of Jonah Williams.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
What was your take on it, man?
I don't like baseball etiquette, man, because he is out there
having fun and you can't do thebat flip, man.
If I hit a homer, man, I wantto flip this bat as far as I can
.
So I don't really get baseballetiquette, but I also get
baseball etiquette.
The person that was talkingright there.
(04:18):
He's kind of right.
You took a ball, you took ballfour and you get the walk.
Did he take ball four becausehe's an incredible hitter to
where they did not want to pitchto him?
Or did he take ball fourbecause the pitcher was just off
?
And what are you celebrating?
The pitcher being off?
Or are you celebrating that youare an incredible hitter that
(04:38):
you have to take that no onewants to pitch to you?
That's fair.
Just take the ball four andthen just go, just take your
base.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Well, I'll give it.
I'll give that to you, but thatteam needed a spark.
Texas has now lost five of thelast seven games since being
number one.
Jonah is full of energy.
It trickled down and it carriedover into that Saturday game
and he came up big after atwo-hour rain delay.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Williams into left center field.
That is in there it bounces outto the fence.
Two runs in Farmer sent homeBase is clearing double for the
freshman and Texas has its firstlead of the weekend.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Okay, see, that's the type of kid he is.
He does not allow the big-timeatmosphere being the number
one-ranked team and criticism torattle him, and I think that
shows a lot of a freshman, ayoung person, in any sport.
And our guy that we're theco-guest, if you will, is very
(05:48):
similar he's not rattled notrattled at all.
Um, we're going to talk aboutwhere ut baseball stands.
If they're going to win the secchampionship regular season
because they had, they're on adownward turn right now.
Uh, but baseball, as you know,it is very, very much a streaky
(06:08):
sport, and so we'll get moreinto that.
I am Sean Clinch, by the way.
That is Stevie Lee, the co-hostof this series of Stories
Inside the man Cave the PassRush with Stevie Lee.
As you can tell, we would notbe anything without our sponsor
of this series, hargrove Roofing, based out of Stevie's hometown
, that being Shreveport,louisiana, and they have
(06:31):
trickled their way into thegreat state of Texas.
Stevie, you are the face ofHargrove Roofing.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
Hargrove Roofing know who's on your roof.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
That's beautiful man.
You can stand on anybody's roof.
I'd love to see a big man likeyourself not cave in a roof, but
I think you're good.
Hey, follow us on all of oursocials Facebook, ig, x, youtube
and TikTok and, stevie, you'dbe proud of me.
I finally updated TikTokbecause it's so much.
We probably need to putsomebody on payroll to handle
(07:16):
that, all right.
So I hate this.
I hate this when the biggestgame of a weekend is picked up
by the network which reallytakes great pride, in their noon
kickoff.
The rematch from last year'sCFP semifinal, the national
champion, ohio State and Texasup in Columbus, will be at noon.
Your thoughts?
Speaker 5 (07:35):
I like it to be a night game because it's going to
be a really big game, but Iguess I can wake up early, get
on the couch and go ahead andwatch.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
With your Yeti of water.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
Yeah, no question, hydration.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Hydration yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
That's going to be fun, man.
I'm really really lookingforward to it.
Man, I was in Dallas for thatgame and it really hurt.
That game really really hurtman.
I watched it on the bench inthe beginning of the season, but
I hope that these kids have areally good camp and come out
(08:11):
and just start.
You know, for lack of betterwords, hitting people in the
mouth, it's a revenge game, man.
You got to go up there in theirhouse and take their lunch.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Well, and there's plenty of guys from the CBS
Sports top 150 ranked players,if you will.
Here they are.
I mean, and I did leave off, Ijust kept some Texas ties in
there, there's just not enoughspace but 100, the top 150 in
the entire country rated by CBSSports for 2025.
(08:44):
I mean, you've got plenty ofLonghorns.
You've got Cade Klubnick fromWestlake, number two rated
player, the quarterback atClemson, A lot of Aggies, smu
TCU Baylor represented, and aformer Aggie quarterback, haynes
Keene, from Georgia Tech.
He's from Longview, texas.
(09:04):
You know he transferred out ofTexas A&M to Georgia Tech.
Everybody finds their home andthere's a tease right there of
our guest on the bottom.
Let's look at this the Cameronsmother son, josh Cameron, the
(09:29):
receiver at Baylor University,and Andrea Cameron.
Welcome to the man cave.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
Thank you, thank you so much.
Absolutely, y'all are crackingme up.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
Hey, I'm sorry about the longhorn bias.
I know you guys are bears, Iknow I can do it.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
I appreciate it.
Hey, this is I kind of go backto with the Camerons when his
older brother and Josh wereplaying at Cedar Park.
They were playing for statechampionships back then.
Great kids, great parents,families, coaches, great
community.
We've got a lot to unbundlehere, but I've got to get you,
(10:13):
josh, your thoughts.
When you saw that top 150 listand there was your name at 145
to be included in that,considering when you left Cedar
Park I mean only you you knewyou were capable of something
like that right.
Speaker 7 (10:34):
Oh, yeah, for sure.
I think, first of all, justgetting included on that list is
just super, super huge and it'shonestly an honor that CBS
looks at me that way.
Obviously that competitivenessin me.
I'm like, shoot, I'm going togo, keep on climbing, get more
up on the ranks.
(10:54):
So no, it's definitely cool tosee my name up on there and then
see my teammate to be watchedthe running back.
He's a dog too, so it's anhonor.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Good.
So I got to ask Mom watch therunning back.
He's a dog too, so it's anhonor.
Good, so I gotta ask mom I meananything when you see your,
your son or any child uhmentioned or something amongst
the elite in the country.
I mean you.
You gave birth to this youngman.
You've celebrated everythinghe's achieved.
Was there a tear at all whenyou saw that list?
Speaker 6 (11:28):
I guess you know I get teary-eyed quite often.
Josh will tell you so itdoesn't take much for me.
So I mean, of course there wasa teary-eyed moment.
And then there was that moment,sort of like Josh said, where
I'm very competitive, so ourwhole family we're very
(11:49):
competitive, and you know I waslike well, shoot 145.
I mean that's too low, my babyneeds to be higher, so hey, but
I mean just yeah, it wasdefinitely great seeing him
recognized and just mentioned in, you know, in that type of
(12:09):
company going into the season.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Well, stevie, here you go, you can take off on this
subject.
I got to get a graphic pulledup while you're asking your
question.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Yeah, so the path from a secret park to Bagel we
talked about it off camera alittle bit.
That you came in as a walk-on,correct?
Yeah, you were one of thosepreferred walk-ons.
They wanted you to come there.
Preferred walk-on.
Yes, sir, Preferred walk-on.
And so tell us about when didthey go ahead and offer you the
(12:40):
scholarship and how did they doit?
So?
Speaker 7 (12:44):
yeah, no, you the scholarship.
And then how did they do it?
Um, so, yeah, no, so, kind ofbeforehand it was back going
back to high school.
This was 2020, uh, playoffs.
And then the playoffs were alittle bit later.
Um, it was, I believe it waslike third round.
I had a crazy game.
I had like 10 receptions, 100so my yards, and then like three
touchdowns.
And then basically after thatmoment, my coach had a
(13:07):
connection to Coach Wetzel.
He's basically like the guy whocoordinates with prefer
walk-ons and just kind of getsthem plugged in with the coaches
.
And so after that plug happened, I basically got noticed by
Baylor.
We were in contact with thereceiver coach, coach Aranda,
and the relationship juststarted to build.
So then after that, kind ofinto 2021, I believe January.
(13:34):
Do you remember?
the day, mom, I can't rememberexactly, was it like January?
Speaker 6 (13:40):
Yeah Well, actually at that point they had already
offered you a preferred walk-on,actually back in December.
Okay so you got the preferredwalk-on in.
Speaker 7 (13:50):
December and then just kind of wrestling about
where to go.
Yeah, that's what it was hadsome other schools look at me
for preferred walk-ons as well,but ultimately decided Baylor
because one my brother wentthere, so I was already familiar
with it.
Ultimately decided Baylorbecause one my brother went
there, so I was already familiarwith it.
Plus the way Coach Aranda wastalking, being able to talk to
head coach, and just the way hewas basically talking about me.
(14:11):
I really enjoyed that too.
So, knowing I was going to putmy head down, go to work, just
kind of grinded all the wayfreshman year just trying to get
on the field because I'm tryingto get that scholarship
basically.
So I was just always in the, uh, special teams coordinator's
office coach college at the timeand, uh, just always bugging my
(14:32):
a coach like what can I do this, this, this, that, um, after
practice, getting that lift inevery every day my boy, um, so
just things like that.
And so then I got on specialteams.
Towards the end of the year gotto play, play in the Big Toe
Championship, sugar Bowl, thingslike that.
So that was huge.
Then I had a solid spring that,following that following year,
started making my way more onthe offensive side, less special
(14:53):
teams.
Then after that spring I gotput on a scholarship.
So, yeah, no, it was it was allno.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
And so how did they do it?
Did they just call you in theoffice and give you a
scholarship?
And so how did they do it?
Speaker 7 (15:03):
Did they just call you in the office and give you a
scholarship.
You know, coach Randy, he's areal, he's a super low-key dude.
His assistant at the time sentme a text saying, hey, can you
come to the office?
I was like, oh, okay, sure, andthen I just walked out.
I was like what's up, coach?
And then he was like what's?
Speaker 3 (15:21):
up Josh, so we're going.
I said what Just like that.
Speaker 7 (15:27):
I was like what?
He's like man.
I was like thank you, coach, Ireally appreciate it.
He's like yes, sir.
So then that's what I call mypeople.
I was crying, talking to themon the phone, and then they
start crying.
They was driving too.
They was like yeah, I can'teven see the road, I'm crying.
So, and they was driving too,so they was like the crash, I
can't even see the road, I'mcrying.
So it was an awesome moment,though, for sure.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
But that's kind of how it went down, so y'all
didn't see it coming at all.
Speaker 7 (15:52):
then Honestly, no, not really.
I didn't think it was going tobe that soon, because I was
talking with Coach, I was likehey, what you thinking?
What do you need to see from metype deal.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
So he was just saying , you see, this blah blah didn't
give like a specific kind oftimeframe.
So, yeah, and in all honesty, Iknow for us, josh's his parents
we were really kind of naiveabout you know how PWOs work,
because I really thought I waslike, oh yeah, you can you know
how PWOs work, because I reallythought I was like, oh yeah, you
can.
You know, take this preferredwalk on and you know they'll
give you a scholarship sometimeduring your freshman year.
(16:31):
Well, it wasn't until we gotinto, you know, the football
stuff and we started meetingguys that were like seniors and
they were still waiting to geton scholarship and you know.
So we started to understand,like, how it all worked.
And even I don't even know ifJosh knows this, but my husband
and I we were really reallyhaving discussions about like,
(16:55):
wow, you know, are we going tobe able to keep them there?
You know what do we need to do?
Because you know Baylor is veryexpensive.
It's not cheap at all.
Um, so it was.
You know, it was one of thosethings that I mean it was such,
you know just God, timing andeverything.
Uh, because you know, like hesaid when he called us, uh, that
(17:19):
was the end of his firstofficial spring ball semester
like he was crying.
So I panicked.
I'm like you know, josh, what'swrong.
What's wrong.
You know I'm like, oh mygoodness.
And it just so happened that,you know, my husband and I, we
were in the car together and youknow, as he was trying to get
the words out and make the wordsout, when he finally did, yeah,
we all just had a big cry,that's awesome.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
That's good for you guys.
I know how much those privateChristian institutions cost.
My daughter just had hersigning day today to Avalon
University in Kansas City,missouri, to play volleyball.
(18:04):
I was going to say she'sMissouri to play volleyball.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
I was going to say she's going to play volleyball,
that's awesome.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
If it wasn't for volleyball, she wouldn't have
gone to college.
Yeah, this is a privateCatholic school.
Oh wow, they take academicsvery seriously up there.
If she didn't get a scholarship, we would probably be out close
to $200,000.
Speaker 6 (18:30):
Oh yeah, I totally believe it, without a doubt.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
Yeah, so I'm so happy that she played volleyball.
Yeah, yes.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
I'll tell you what, as Josh, since you've been a
student athlete at Baylor, afootball player, there's been a
lot of changes.
I mean, you came in, there wasNIL, was just a thought, there
were all these cases and nowwe're going to pretty much
eliminate the walk-ons at FBSlevel, expanding, I think, the
(19:02):
roster size to 105 scholarships.
So this makes it sweeterbecause you have had to work
through it all and earneverything.
But deep down, this guy, Iremember him in high school.
I mean just cool, calm,collected, a leader, everything.
And then the reward the 2024breakout season.
(19:28):
And before I show you everyonethe numbers he's put up and I
know the majority of them werefrom last season this guy is
showing the NFL scouts hey, Ican win, make plays in many
different ways I mean even as aspecialist and it is returnable.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
But he did get away from that original surge.
Cameron, with space to move,hits the edge and a stiff arm
for Bassett, a convoy in frontof him with a flag down behind
at the 40.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
so you tell me a little bit about that.
I I helped me refresh my memorywere you a returner in high
school as well, at cedar park Iwasn't uh, I'm trying to think.
Speaker 7 (20:19):
I think it was the spring of 2023 season um we got
a new special teams coordinator,coach hancock, and so he
basically was just like, hey,have you ever done punt return
before?
I was like what I ain't neverdone punt return, kick return on
a day of my life.
So I was like I've never donethat.
(20:40):
He's like, you know, I coach adude who had like similar build,
you know kind of size like you,and so I think you'd be good
back there.
So I was like, shoot, I'll dowhatever it takes, coach, I'll
try it, I'll give it a shot, notthinking much of it, because
you know what I'm saying.
There's we had like guys likemoderating four, two guys.
I was like, oh, shoot, I don'teven know, but I gave it a shot
(21:02):
and I turned out to be prettygood at it.
I was consistent with thingslike that and then just kind of
kept on stacking and stackingand then just kind of turned out
to what it is today.
So, um, to answer your question, no, I I did not think I was
going to do part return ever, soit just kind of fell, fell into
my hands through hard work aswell.
So it's that was a.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
That was, that was a natural still form right there,
oh yeah.
Speaker 7 (21:26):
That's those running back days when I was younger.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Yeah, For sure.
He put Earl Campbell on, puthis Earl Campbell name on.
Look at that last line on thisgraphic.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
Second team All-American, all-american,
returner, that's awesome, that'sawesome.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
So when you look at this, I don't know what you can
say, and I know these days, as acollege football player, you
kind of have an idea.
Maybe not so much during theseason, but we are in the
preseason, if you will, oroffseason of next year.
You've got to feel good aboutwhere you stand for next year's
(22:07):
draft entering this season.
Am I exaggerating or am I justbeing biased towards you?
Speaker 7 (22:14):
Oh no, for sure, For sure.
I think just keeping the mainthing, the main thing, taking
care of this season and thenworking to that next kind of
phase of my life, is huge and soit's definitely there, but I
don't try to let it likeovertake me or anything like
that.
Right.
The main thing, the main thing.
But no, definitely, definitelyin a good position.
(22:34):
Just wanted to kind of stack onto that next upcoming season,
so for sure.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
Yeah, yeah, just keep working out, man.
You got tremendous upside toyou, I think you know, think the
base that you have right now.
I'm giving your mom and yourdad their flowers right now, man
, because you are a tremendousyoung man outside of football,
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outside of everything else.
Just talking to you these lastfew minutes.
That's all I'm saying to yourmom and dad for raising a cool
kid in this crazy world rightnow.
The other thing I was thinking,man, that you did all of this
coming out of Cedar Park inthese COVID times.
So you were in high school, inprime high school, junior senior
(23:28):
year, during COVID and remotelearning, and trying to figure
all this stuff out.
I can't imagine doing that,trying to figure out where I
need to go to play football nextor go to school next during
this whole crazy COVID time.
So hats off to just a strongbase foundation, which is God,
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I'm sure, with you, and thenfamily.
You know what I'm saying.
So you guys, you guys done agreat job.
Andrea.
This is awesome to see thisyoung man flourish right now.
This is good, thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Thank you Definitely appreciate it Now that's a great
story and it's about to geteven better as we dive into this
.
But we got to ask you, josh andSteve and I you know,
throughout during footballseason, he and I we do this
series every week and it's notjust Texas, it's the entire
country region.
You guys got off to a reallyslow start last year and then
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all of a sudden you guys went onthis run and you and I talked
about it before we started thisepisode.
You lost some guys on thedefensive side, but do you feel
like you've got enough piecesand, with the portal and
everything else, that Baylor canmake a similar run or just play
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off of how you finished?
Speaker 7 (24:49):
oh, oh, yeah, no, for sure.
I think taking that momentumand carrying it to this next
season is really just vital.
Really, throughout the springwe got to this is probably the
most kind of early enrolling andtransfer we've ever had since
I've been at Baylor.
So just trying to get thoseguys plugged in and connected
and just kind of seeing how theyjust kind of move forward and
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just kind of climb.
That's the spring went on.
So I think we're in a great,great spot, for sure, for sure.
So I'm just super excited forAugust 30th, august 29th, I
can't remember which day, but toplay Auburn primetime.
So, yeah, no, I'm, I'm superexcited for that momentum.
So definitely, definitely wantto shoot way, way higher than
(25:34):
what, uh, last year was, butlast year was definitely a good
start, for sure both.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
I'll start with you, andrea, and then josh,
navigating this, the nil and theportal arrow.
We're all for it.
Yeah, and I'll start with you.
With you, andres, I said I mean, do you as a parent, what is it
like?
Because that's a lot thrown ata young person.
(25:59):
Oh yeah, opportunities whichthey should have.
Speaker 6 (26:02):
Mm-hmm, absolutely.
I guess the first word thatcomes to mind is madness, but
it's a, you know, it's a mad,mad world.
You know, on the on the onehand, I love that the players
are, you know, are able tobenefit from their name, image
and likeness.
It's a real blessing with the,the income and you know the, the
(26:26):
financial gains that theplayers are able to make while
they're in college.
But I think it can be, it cankind of be a double edged sword
if you don't have a good supportsystem around you.
And you know, because the moneyis coming so fast and so
furious, I think, a lot of times, you know, guys get stuck in
(26:49):
the trap of making decisionsjust based on money instead of
making decision based on what'sreally truly best for them.
As a football player, even youknow, academically, when it
comes to getting their degree,there are a lot of things that
you have to consider before youjust chase money.
But you know.
But I understand because, likeI said, the money.
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But you know, but I understandbecause, like I said, the money
is, you know, when you don't,when you're not used to having.
You know all of this, you knowthis massive cash flow that
schools are throwing at you.
It can be, you know, can bereally, really just intense.
It can be mad.
Stevie, I was sharing with Seanthe other day that I know for
Joshua his offseason was reallyinteresting because we're in the
(27:34):
land of poaching now and sothere were a lot of schools
coming after Josh.
So while he didn't getrecruited coming out of high
school, he got recruited.
You know teams looking at theportal and you know they're
going to pay them X, y, z dollarand they're going to do this,
they're going to do that, youknow.
So that was pretty intense.
(27:55):
I know Josh got tired of it alland you know he's like Mom, I'm
tired of it, I'm tired of it,but you know, again, it's, it's
one of those things, just as aparent watching and going
through it, you know, like Isaid, they're, they're certainly
good.
You know it comes with the goodand bad.
I wish everyone had a just astrong support system to help
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them navigate it.
So we're just, you know,fortunate and blessed, you know,
and Josh has always been veryopen with us.
He's, you know, he's just likemost of the calls Josh gets,
he's like call my mom, call mymom, call my dad, you know.
So he's, you know, but he'sthat type of guy.
He's like, hey, I'm not goingto try to figure this out by
myself.
And you know some guys his agethey do, and you know, before
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they know it, their parents arekind of like what?
What just happened?
Yeah, that's, you know, that'skind of my, you know my take.
And I know there's going to bea lot of refinement along the
way, because you know thecurrent system that's in place.
It just you know it needs work.
But I definitely think it's agood thing and you know I want
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to see it continue when it comesto taking care of our athletes.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
Yeah, I think what you said is Josh said call my
mom, call my dad, because hesaid it earlier keep the main
thing, the main thing.
I just want to play football.
Yeah, that's great, and stayingat Baylor is a testament of
what he just want to playfootball.
And staying at Baylor is atestament of what he just want
to play football.
Oh, yeah, that's good, but letmy mom and dad handle the
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business side, because now it'sa business.
It's more of a business, right,yeah, and I want these guys to
get every penny that they canoff their name, their image and
likeness, because we had aconversation before.
They use my image and likenessand I haven't seen a Don.
Still, they didn't use my name,they couldn't use name, but
(29:56):
they used image and likeness.
Yeah, but I'm so happy thatthese guys are able to get paid
off of their hard work.
Speaker 6 (30:07):
Yeah, their hard work .
Yeah, I totally agree.
Yeah, they're hard work, Itotally agree, that's for sure.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
Again, hats off to you guys for managing that part
of it.
Give me a hundred grand at 19years old.
I don't know where I'll be.
Speaker 6 (30:24):
I'll say, even to Josh's credit, though he's been
blessed, baylor's done a goodjob with taking care of him and
Josh has been a he.
His mind when it comes to moneyis just, it's just always kind
of been different compared tosome guys.
You probably won't really seehim with big jewelry pieces or
(30:44):
whatever, but you know he can.
He can tell you about the stockmarket, he can tell you which
stocks he's buying, and you knowso he can tell you about the
stock market.
He can tell you which stockshe's buying, and you know so.
He's always been investmentfocused and uh, you know, and I,
we, we appreciate that so muchabout him.
Um, and he's not, you know,he's not one to just like blow
money, he's just kind of likeokay.
So that's, that's really coolwatching as a parent, because
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we're like OK, he's going to beOK, he's going to be OK.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
Yeah, I think he's like one of my clients.
I deal with a lot of athletesand this person make a lot of
money, a lot of money in hisprofessional sport and and I
said, what do you spend yourmoney on?
Because he has an old car hegot when he first drafted still
and I was like, what do youspend your money on?
And Josh, you'll like this,he's like video games, that's it
(31:38):
, that's what's up.
So he probably got one of those$1,500 headsets, $2,000 chair.
You know he got it all.
Actually, those chairs can getup to $5,000, $2,000 chair you
know, he got it all.
Those chairs can get up to$5,000, $10,000, you know, oh my
gosh?
Yeah, I'm sure he has somethinglike that.
He's probably I know he's overa $20 million a year athlete,
(32:04):
right?
Wow, just old car, modest houseand he spent his money on
gaming.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
Man, so Joshua one thing whenever you have any day
trading advice, just shoot for aweek.
Because, I'm not afraid toadmit it, I play a little with.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Robin Hood.
We're sure, with the Robin Hoodapp, you know, we're sure.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Here's the one story that a lot of people can relate
to.
It was tough to watch this fromafar because it was just like,
okay, who, andre?
You're the first person I'venever I've heard of it.
But when you had to have adouble lung transplant and you
sent me one of the most powerfulphotos, the before and after
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and I'll start with you, josh, Imean you're watching your mom
struggle health-wise, to seeingthat, mean, it's your mom, and I
know you probably had thathelpless feeling.
A lot of prayers, whatnot, butat any point did you think that
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you would see her how she is now?
Speaker 7 (33:26):
Just a totally different, much healthier woman.
Yeah, no for sure.
The whole process was honestlyscary and I'm sure my mom will
hit more on it here in a littlebit.
But she actually went throughcardiac arrest for like 19
minutes and so that's kind ofthe reason why she was like that
in that photo and I didn't knowthat at the time.
I really just thought that waskind of like a part of the lung
(33:47):
transplant process.
So my grandma and my mom, myaunt, they did a good job of
kind of shielding me from thatand just trying not to get me
too riled up because I was goingthrough school and spring ball
and all that.
But I think that really justgoes to show how really strong
my mom is, how brave she is andreally just how courageous she
is, and I honestly knew that shewas going come out on top.
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Honestly, I remember going downthere to help her to relearn
how to walk after that and justencouraging her and just seeing
that passion.
And, um, one of the times whenI went down there she actually
set a record walking, and sothat's, that's something I
remember that'll always stickwith me for the rest of my life,
but not just seeing, seeingwhere she is now, to where she
(34:30):
was then I mean she's, she's thebiggest inspiration, for sure
that's beautiful man, that isabsolutely beautiful man.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
That's uh, andrea, if you, if you will, whatever part
of the story health-wise.
What exactly was this?
Something that had deterioratedover time?
What happened?
Speaker 6 (34:57):
Yeah.
So I was diagnosed withpulmonary fibrosis back in May
of 2007.
And and at that time I wasgiven a you know, it's a
terminal diagnosis I was toldthat I would have two to three
years, that basically, I had twoto three years left to live at
that point, and that was May ofseven.
The technology, the way thelung transplant technology has
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changed and has advanced overthe years, Back in 07, Josh was
four and his older brother was11.
When Josh was four and hisolder brother was 11.
And when they sent me to SanAntonio to, you know, be
(35:40):
considered for a lung transplant, the doctor said well, we can
do the lung transplant and it'llprobably give you another two
to three years.
And so I said well, okay, havethe transplant.
You're saying another two tothree years, don't have the
transplant.
And you're saying two to threeyears.
So, and again, it was all basedon just where the lung
transplant technology was at thetime.
(36:01):
The lungs have historicallybeen under understudied and
underfunded, and even, you know,true to this day.
But anyway, so my husband and I, of course, we are people of
faith and in our prayers, afterwe, you know, just prayed about
it and, you know, of course, gotover the initial shock and you
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know the whole thing.
We really believe that.
You know we heard God say no tothe transplant, that we were
going to stand in faith and, youknow, believe God for just a
miracle.
And that miracle came because,from 2007, all the way until
2021, I was, you know, rockingand rolling.
(36:46):
Now I was being medicallytreated.
So you know they were doingthings.
You know I was taking all kindsof medicines.
There were differentexperimental things that came up
along the way and and, honestly, my doctors were amazed, they
couldn't figure out.
They were like we don't knowwhat's going on, because the
progression of the diseaseliterally stopped.
(37:08):
Because the progression of thedisease literally stopped and
you know, like I said, it wasjust the whole process where,
you know, it was one of thosethings where God had his hand
all over it.
But in 2021, because I wasliving with such depleted lungs
meaning, you know, my bodywasn't getting enough oxygen it
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started to affect my heart.
So at that point, the only curefor the pulmonary heart disease
that developed was a doublelung transplant, and it was
something that the doctorscouldn't wait on.
Any longer is December 31st,2023 is when I actually received
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the double lung transplant andand I was doing great, I was,
the transplant went great.
I was up and talking and doingmy thing and fully recovering.
And you know, the doctors werelike, oh, my goodness, this is
the best transplant, my goodness, this is the best transplant.
(38:12):
And you know the whole thing.
And then, January 18th, 2024,which is you know what you have
the picture from I was, I wassitting up and I was telling my
husband I was like honey, I'mreally really hot.
I was just like burning up.
And I was like, you know, babe,can you ask the nurses, you
know, see, if there's a fan orsomething here in the hospital?
So he's like running aroundtrying to find a fan.
And you know he couldn't find afan.
(38:34):
So he came back to the room andhe was like, hey, I can't find
a fan, so I'll just run over towalmart and buy one.
And I was like, yeah, yeah,give me a fan because I'm like
I'm so, so, hot.
So in the meantime, my mom is,you know, giving me like cold
towels and stuff.
But she had to take off to gocheck on the rehab facility that
(38:57):
I was supposed to be leavingand, you know, going into rehab
with.
So the two of them left at thesame time, within about five
minutes of them leaving this iswhat I'm told.
I literally just, you know,dropped dead, as they say, and I
was in full on cardiac arrestand it was.
It took them almost 20 minutesto get my heartbeat back and it
(39:22):
was.
You know, like I said, thewhole thing is just such a
miraculous process Because evenone of my nurses told me they
later found out the conditionthat caused it, and I can't
remember the name.
I should have written it down.
But the condition that causedthe cardiac arrest is a really
it's a rare, rare condition and,like I said, I apologize that I
(39:46):
didn't get information.
But this particular conditionhas a 99% mortality rate.
So, like less than 1% of theindividuals that go into cardiac
arrest because of thiscondition survive, and these are
individuals, like, whetherthey're in the hospital or not.
So you know, and again, thatwas explained to me later on in
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the process, and God had hishand on me, even the nurse, one
of my nurses, the one thatimmediately started CPR, she
told me.
She said, you know, because shewas crying and because it was
months before I could talk and,you know, do any of that, I
literally had to relearn tofunction in every sense of the
(40:32):
word.
So I'm having this conversationwith her and she was telling me
.
She said, you know, she said,every time I look at you,
whenever I come in here, shesaid, I just get teary eyed
because she said, number one,normally when a patient codes
the way you do, she told me.
She said, normally they will,you know, try to resuscitate
(40:53):
seven, maybe eight minutes max.
And she said, but in your case,the doctors, you know just, you
know, kept saying let's keepgoing, let's keep going, let's
keep going.
The doctors wouldn't stop andyou know so, even though we're
going on, you know, 20 minutes,you know, the doctors were just
like no, we're not going to callit.
We're not going to call it, andyou know.
And then, like I said then,when I found out medically what
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happened and I was just like wow, god, you are so, you know, so
amazing.
God is so good.
So that's, that's what thepicture is from.
And because I had to relearn howto do everything, I tell
everyone it's like the hardestthing I've ever experienced in
my life.
So hats off to athletes, anyonethat has to rehab to do
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anything, because I mean, therewere so many days that I was
like I'm cooked, I'm done, Ijust, you know, I never thought
I would be able to walk again,even being able to talk.
I mean there were just so manythings that I just, you know, I
never I didn't know if I wouldbe able to do it again, and but
I did know that.
You know, I always promisedJosh, I was like baby, you know,
(42:03):
I'm not going to miss yourgames.
You know mama's going to bethere, Mama's going to be there,
and so that was kind of one ofmy goals.
I knew that, ok, my baby'sgoing to have a game coming up
in August and mama's got to bethere.
So that was my goal.
And I was at his first game andI was at every game this season
.
So it was just such a blessingyeah.
Speaker 4 (42:23):
That is.
And to add to it, you've earneda new title and you can put on
your resume if you'd like.
It may already be on there, butthe Baylor team mom job.
That's a big title to carry.
I mean what?
All does your mom have to do,Because that's a lot of work in
my opinion.
Speaker 7 (42:44):
I don't even know all the details.
I don't know all the details.
I know she's got to organizedifferent events and stuff.
Now I'm like okay.
Speaker 4 (42:53):
Yes yes yes, that's, I mean you.
You literally are an extensionof the athletic department,
right?
Speaker 6 (43:03):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, that's what we do.
It's, it's fun, it's.
You know, it really is justabout keeping things organized
and and kind of being thatliaison between the parents and
the inside the building, so tospeak, and making sure that
we're straight on everything onour end as parents.
But, yeah, no, that's a lot offun.
Speaker 4 (43:24):
Stevie, who was your team mom at Texas.
Speaker 5 (43:27):
I don't think we had one bro.
Speaker 4 (43:28):
You had Sally Brown Mac's wife right.
Speaker 5 (43:33):
Sally was.
I don't know if she was a teammom, but she was one of them.
She would do.
She would hand out cookies tous as we got on the plane for a
away game.
Speaker 6 (43:45):
Oh, my yeah.
Speaker 7 (43:46):
That's fine, I have to up my game then I was going
to say hey, mom, you need towake up at the airport Getting
out and make some cookies.
I know.
Speaker 6 (43:57):
I know my mother would in a heartbeat.
She'd be like oh, oh, we needto make cookies.
Oh, my goodness.
Speaker 4 (44:21):
All right, this is where we have fun.
We've had some really fun.
I mean stories I still laughabout to this day.
Josh, do you and your mom havea story that could be deemed man
Cave story-esque?
That's just as amusing now asit was when it happened.
Speaker 7 (44:41):
Man, I'm trying to think that's a tough question.
Give me a little down yourfingers song, you got anything
Mom.
Speaker 6 (44:52):
I don't know why, but the thing that comes to mind is
you and that silly YouTubechannel with the whole thing
about getting a whooping.
Speaker 3 (45:07):
Oh, I was getting a whooping.
Speaker 7 (45:20):
I was doing the unboxing.
I have like a little YouTubechannel.
I was grinding.
I was doing the unboxings.
I was doing the little BeanBoozled Challenge, the little
jelly beans, with my mom.
I was doing it all.
I was doing it all.
This one video I made wasbasically talking about
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basically like the last whoopingI ever got from my parents and
so I could basically my brother.
He basically like put me on astrategy.
He was like, all right, bro, solook, that's what you got to do
for it to hurt less, rightbefore you get whooped just
clench your butt, cheeks I wastrying to get the woman, uh, and
(46:03):
I did that, and so right beforemy dad whooped me, I clenched
up and then I hit, hit.
I was like, oh shoot.
I actually started laughingbecause it didn't hurt at all.
Speaker 3 (46:15):
It didn't hurt at all .
Speaker 7 (46:17):
And so I was just looking like okay.
And so then after thatbasically that was the last
whoop I received my dad wentback to my mom and was just like
hey, I think we need to trysomething different.
We need to start takingelectronics because I think you
done grew up the whoopin'.
That whole story is on myYouTube channel, who's also a
(46:38):
creator, that's a good one.
Speaker 6 (46:42):
His brother told him to squeeze up his booty cheeks.
Squeeze those butt cheeks andthat would absorb the pain, and
he literally broke my husband.
As a result, my husband losthis will.
Speaker 5 (46:59):
I think we got to try something else.
Oh man.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
Oh man, that's a good one.
Speaker 6 (47:06):
No, we stayed up for hours talking about that, I was
like man, oh, man, that's a goodone.
No, we stayed up for hourstalking about that.
I was like listen.
I'm trying to encourage myhusband.
Like, come on, man, get back inthe game, you can do this, you
can do this.
That's the truth.
My husband's like babe the boylaughed at me.
Speaker 3 (47:24):
The boy laughed at me .
Speaker 4 (47:27):
He's those cheeks man .
I wish I would have done that,oh my God.
Hey, it hurts me worse than ithurts you, Did you?
Ever hear that Literally,stevie, we're going to end this
episode when we end it here, inabout 15 minutes, don't you feel
?
Speaker 5 (47:46):
inspired by them?
No, no question.
So you know, the boy-momrelationship is similar to the
daddy-daughter relationship.
Yeah, for sure.
I'm sitting here smiling withyou guys.
I love it.
My two babies are my heart man.
My two girls.
I got two girls and you havetwo boys.
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Andrea.
They're in my heart.
I'm hoping that I have arelationship with my baby when
she goes off to college.
Like this, she's leaving inAugust.
Hats off to you guys, man, it'sfun talking to y'all.
Great story I now have a.
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Now that we don't play theUniversity of Texas and Baylor
don't play each other in theregular season yeah, now I have
a favorite bear.
Speaker 7 (48:37):
I appreciate it, I appreciate it I have a favorite
bear, thank you.
Speaker 5 (48:41):
Thank you.
When Longhorns aren't playing,it's sick them right.
There you go.
Sick them bears, man.
So go out there and do yourthing, man.
Good luck this season.
Work hard this offseason, man.
You know what to do.
Just work hard this offseason.
Put your head down and make themain thing the main thing, and
just play football.
(49:02):
Yes, sir, sage, advice Playfootball and your mom and dad
got your back.
They'll handle all of the restfor you, but you just stay
between that.
What is it?
53 yards by 110, 120 yards.
Speaker 3 (49:15):
That's all you need to do, man.
Speaker 7 (49:16):
Yes, sir, that's, it.
Speaker 5 (49:17):
And keep returning that ball.
Speaker 7 (49:19):
Yes, sir.
Speaker 4 (49:21):
Stevie relay the message you tell your lovely
wife whenever she startsthinking negativity.
What do you tell her?
Speaker 5 (49:29):
Yo get out of your head.
It's scary in there, that'shard, that's hard.
Speaker 7 (49:33):
Yeah, I'm going to keep that one.
I'm going to keep that one.
Speaker 4 (49:39):
We're going to be pulling for you, Josh, and the
entire Cameron family.
For sure I've got allergiesright now.
You can tell I'm choking up.
I'm not sad.
Speaker 5 (49:47):
No, you're crying.
You're crying because of thestory.
Man, it's okay to cry.
Man, it's okay to cry.
Oh gosh, Jeez, man, oh my gosh.
Speaker 7 (49:56):
Thank you all so much .
I appreciate y'all.
Speaker 6 (49:58):
Yeah, thank you so much.
I appreciate this and justy'all giving Josh the
opportunity to talk about hisstory and all of that, so we
just appreciate being on withy'all.
Speaker 4 (50:11):
We appreciate you guys because it's a great story,
it's inspiring and you guys areamazing people.
On top of all that, we're goingto take a quick break and
before you guys leave, you couldprobably I want y'all to see
Stevie acting, but when we comeback we're going to try to
figure out how the Texasbaseball team can win the SEC.
(50:32):
It's not as hard as you think.
Plus man, we got a kid whostuck his hand in a cardinal
bitum and he doesn't understandwhy.
A little eight-year-old hassome choice words that he's
probably going to get a whippingfor and maybe he should have
clenched his cheeks.
Much love to the Camerons andwe'll see you on the other side.
Speaker 3 (50:56):
Joe Much love.
No, thank you.
Speaker 2 (50:59):
Here at Hargrove Roofing we try to think outside
the box, to kind of get thecreative juices flowing.
So I brought in my friendStevie Lee, former defensive
tackle for the Texas Longhorns.
He's going to help the teamstrategize, really motivate them
.
Light a fire.
Speaker 5 (51:13):
This guy's going to block down.
This guy's going to block down.
You put your butt into theguard and that way my Mike
linebacker gets free to do what.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
Not only are they going to learn a thing or two,
but they're going to also leavewith a great attitude and a
bunch of smiles on their faces.
Speaker 7 (51:30):
I'm sorry.
What does this have to do withroofing?
Exactly?
Speaker 3 (51:36):
Get out Right now.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
I said get out For me .
That's what it's all about.
It's just having fun making ouremployees have a great time.
Speaker 3 (51:58):
Hargrove Roofing.
Know who's on your roof?
I fucking tell you to take, youtake.
Don't tell me you don't see it.
You fucking look.
You understand, I don't give ashit.
Like I said 15 minutes from now, you don't give a fuck, you
walk out of here.
I gotta live with thismotherfucking, fucking,
(52:20):
embarrassing game the rest of myfucking life.
I have totally fucking failedyou guys.
We got beat at every singlefucking part of this.
Everything, everything,everything.
Infield play two out hittingeverything.
(52:43):
Totally fucking stupid.
I'm sorry, I apologize, I havetotally let you down.
Speaker 4 (52:59):
Great Agui Garrido.
Hey, he knew what he was doing.
But when you playuncharacteristically and
honestly, the current Longhornsgreat team, they've lost their
number one pitcher for the yearand I think that has hurt them
because they're trying to getthat rotation together in their
(53:21):
bullpen Stevie.
They have lost five of the lastseven games but you know know
they were number one.
They're probably still going tobe a national top eight seed
when the regionals start.
Um, I don't think there's a lotof panic, but there is a
concern now that this team maynot be a college World Series
(53:43):
team as of this moment.
Speaker 5 (53:48):
Yeah, I don't think that.
I think that we're still aWorld Series team.
I mean, just five out of thelast seven we were ranked number
one in the country.
It's just a mid-season slumpright now and we can get back on
track.
Let's not throw out the babywith the bath.
You don't want to do that, youdon't.
(54:12):
So I don't think that we'redown and out.
We may be down right now, butwe're not out.
Speaker 4 (54:18):
Well, the hitting is now struggling.
They had one big inning in thatgame too, against Florida.
Granted Florida's good, butthey let a freshman pitcher
pretty much dominate them.
If I remember correctly, onSunday, they've got to get the
run production back.
They've got to figure out thispitching rotation and they enter
(54:41):
the last week of the regularseason this weekend at Oklahoma.
Oklahoma is now below 500 inthe SEC.
If I did my math correctly andI think I'm usually accurate
correct me if I'm wrong, ifyou're watching Texas just needs
to win one game in Norman ofthe three to clinch at least a
(55:02):
share of the SEC regular seasontitle.
Speaker 5 (55:07):
Okay, I don't know that one, I can't correct you.
Yeah, so that, yeah, so that'swhat I'm saying.
We're maybe down right now, butwe're not out.
Speaker 4 (55:16):
No, they're not out, but I'm looking at longevity.
Can they repair this to where Ithink they can get out of there
, because they're going to hosta regional.
If they win that, they're goingto host a super regional.
I think they'll get out of aregional.
Okay, I don't think the SECtournament is important.
I think they do need to utilizeit to get their staff pitching
(55:40):
staff and get that swagger backin their lineup, because they've
got dudes and they've got thebest closer in the game, if not
one of the best.
But I think they have not hadany slumps in this season until
now.
Late yeah, is this enough time?
(56:01):
I think they can get ittogether, but it's just.
Baseball is a funky game.
It'll break your heart, it'sstreaky.
So win one at OU, because OU isgoing to be desperate now to
get back on the winning ways.
Now you live up near Cedar Parkman.
I went with a fraternitybrother of mine.
He lives in Cedar Park.
I hadn't been to the HEB slashCedar Park Center since I was in
(56:24):
the media and the AAA affiliateof the Dallas Stars.
Dude this atmosphere right here.
Off the chain.
That game they won that playoffseries against Grand Rapids
(56:47):
Michigan.
They were down 4-1, 3-4, 4-1,came back and won in double
overtime.
That place was on its feet,jumping, jumping Good stuff.
Have you been to that arena for?
Speaker 5 (56:59):
a while I've been to the arena.
I haven't been to a hockey gameyet.
Speaker 4 (57:02):
Dude, you got to.
I'm telling you, you, everyonewatching bring your mamas
Belated Mother's Day gift, takethem to a Texas Stars playoff
game.
And guess who was sitting nextto me on this side?
Who's that?
My urologist.
Are you serious?
Dr Carl Bischoff urologist, bigshout out.
(57:22):
He's seen a lot of things ofmine.
He's really good at it.
Well, good at being a urologist.
Big fan of Dr Bischoff.
This video is kind ofdisturbing the tick-tocking and
the man cave.
A little kid put his finger upto what looked like a cardinal
and didn't understand why thishappened.
(57:44):
It's all about cause and effect.
Speaker 3 (57:49):
Ow, ow, shit.
What the shit, shit, ow.
Why did he bite me?
Speaker 4 (58:04):
Why are they?
Speaker 5 (58:04):
holding a cardinal.
Yeah, that's one question one.
Question two is why you putyour finger up there.
And question three who is thiskid hanging around?
Speaker 4 (58:16):
Yeah, he didn't learn that language on his own.
Speaker 5 (58:20):
Yeah, who is this kid hanging around?
I mean, sounds like one of myfriends he's hanging around.
Speaker 3 (58:26):
I actually hey man, Tell me something good.
Speaker 4 (58:36):
All right, stevie, great episode and we got to end
on positivity.
Tell me something good, mybrother.
Speaker 5 (58:43):
Man, I had something all lined up, but our guest
today, that was something goodman.
So happy that Andrea is herestill with us with her son doing
great things and her husbandGaze.
They're just a good family,good people all around.
(59:06):
I'm so happy that we go tochurch together, we can do life
together, but they're they'rejust good people, man.
So she inspired me that youknow you can do anything out
here, man.
Her telling us that she had torelearn to walk and she wanted
to go to her son's game.
So she made that a goal of hers, pushed herself, she pushed
herself so she can to go to herson's game.
(59:26):
So she made that a goal of hers,pushed herself she she pushed
herself so she can make it toher her baby's game and so, um,
that's inspirational man and I'msure she, he, she inspired uh,
josh, and josh inspired her.
So that was.
That was really cool to hear.
That's something good.
That's something I will alwaystake with me, man, the adversity
(59:49):
that she has gone through andthey have overcome and they're
still overcoming it.
That's an awesome story,awesome comeback story from a
great family, personal friendsof ours.
Speaker 4 (01:00:04):
I'll tell you something good, and I'm going to
be a little vulnerable here.
I'm a great family, personalfriends of ours.
I'll tell you something goodand I'm going to be a little
vulnerable here.
I won't people.
I'm going to do a coffee withclinch episode, strictly on this
.
But I'm just going to not shareeverything that I've shared
with Stevie.
But I think everyone this isget therapy, therapy.
I haven't been to therapy inalmost two decades.
(01:00:26):
I just had some things in lifecatch up with me recently and I
was not myself for three weeks,really down, not understanding
why.
Started therapy?
About what?
Stevie five weeks ago, five orsix weeks ago, mm-hmm, six weeks
and, to make it short to thepoint, I really was not feeling
(01:00:50):
like myself.
Just nothing positive.
I wasn't that extreme, but Ijust felt low.
So we came out with a timelineand so we realized, through this
therapist, that I have hadsomething that I've never used
before, but I have, since 2019,trauma and significant changes
(01:01:15):
in my life from 19, 20, 21, 22,23, 24, and now 2025 All
compiled.
What did I do?
I just kept going, thinkingthat I did the work, Packing it
all in until it surfaced.
I cracked, not going to lie.
Now we're on the road torecovery.
(01:01:37):
That's why we haven't done apodcast in three weeks.
Got you, that's all good, it'srecovery and healing.
Yes.
Speaker 5 (01:01:46):
I want to encourage people to do that.
Yep, well, I've said this toyou, man, I got your back, I got
you me.
You call I got you man, um,you're uh, I don't know if you
can call an accountabilitypartner or whatever, but I'm
here.
Stevie lee is here, I'll.
I'll stop pass rushing to comeand help you.
Speaker 4 (01:02:07):
Hey, that's true, brother, I do the same for you
and your family, for sure I know.
But there's a lot of uh, lotsto gain out of this and I've
learned, I'm learning, a lotthat I just didn't take the time
to stop and do.
I thought I did Uh.
But there's a lot of specialpeople in our lives and, stevie,
(01:02:28):
much love to you, brother,appreciate you, you too, man,
you too.
So for the great city ofShreveport, louisiana, the
hometown of the Stevie Lee andthe hometown of Hargrove Roofing
, much love to the Hargrovefamily.
We love them.
They're fine.
Americans Support them and youknow we've got hellstorms galore
even this time of year.
Call Hargrove Roofing, stevie,what do you say to that?
Speaker 5 (01:02:53):
Hargrove Roofing Know who's on your roof 100%.
Speaker 4 (01:02:56):
And to Mike, the town that is the home of my college
alma mater, stephen F, austin,in Nacogdoches, texas, in Texas,
in the red big streets ofdowntown NAC, go visit, and
behind the pine curtain.
And to my beautiful hometown,austin, texas, and to you, the
beautiful people watching andlistening to these episodes much
love to you and to everybodyShare, like, follow.
(01:03:17):
We appreciate you guys.
And to everybody everybody,thank you, thank you.
And to the OG man Cave boys,that being Harbaugh, harge, big
Mike and knee coach Mo.
Speaker 7 (01:03:34):
What do we tell them?
Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
Stevie Lee, we out.
You see the drip and.
Speaker 5 (01:03:36):
I'm fitted up, I'm in my car, in a Gideon.
I said get out.
I said get out.
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