The Pass Rush with Stevie Lee, Clynch, Mike Adams, & Bob Ballou: Swamp Wake-Up, Fairground Reckoning

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The Swamp was loud, unforgiving, and revealing. Florida shifted late, hit first, and dared Texas to solve problems on the fly—up front on both sides, in the run game, with pre-snap discipline, and in special teams detail. We dig into the tape and the truth: 15 rushing yards, six sacks on Arch, three missed chances to pin inside the five, and still a late shot to tie. That contradiction is the heartbeat of this episode—flaws you can fix, and a team resilient enough to be within reach even on a bad night.

We start with Arch Manning’s growth under fire. The box score won’t show it, but the grit did—standing in, scrambling smart, and competing while the pocket leaked. Yes, there were missed reads and footwork lapses, but development isn’t linear, and this felt like a step toward the kind of quarterbacking Texas needs in Dallas. From there, we tackle the hard questions. Why did the defensive plan let DJ Lagway get comfortable? Where did the edges go? How did Florida’s late shifts rattle an offensive line that came into 2024 young and hyped? And what does a real fix look like in six days?

Our answer leans on identity and practicality. Play faster in spots. Move the launch point with boots and sprint-outs. Simplify the run menu to what the current backs and line can execute, aim for 125–150 yards to unlock the passing game, and trust field position when the game scripts low scoring. We also weigh the OU quarterback situation—expecting Matheir to suit up—and explain why the betting line likely reflects Hawkins uncertainty more than anything Texas did. The Cotton Bowl is its own world: half crimson, half burnt orange, better concourses and escalators, same pressure. If Texas wins first down, cleans up penalties, and reclaims special teams edges, the day tilts back.

Come for the stories—from Gainesville’s atmosphere to Red River memories—and stay for the plan: where Texas must tighten, how Arch can thrive, and why OU week is the right time to reset. If this breakdown helps, tap follow, share it with a Longhorn (or Sooner) in your life, and drop your bold Red River prediction in a review.

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Episode Transcript

SPEAKER_00 (00:46):
I think that this is where you find out about the the
culture that you have.
We got to get tighter than we'veever been.
Um, you know, and we're gonnahave to quiet the noise because
there'll be plenty of noisecoming out of this game.

SPEAKER_11 (00:56):
Stevie Lee, um I don't know what to make of what
happened at the swamp, but wehave the playmaker.
We have one of my favoritepeople who has some really good
insight on covering theLonghorns on this great week.
And we'll we'll tell you whyit's a great week after a loss
like that.
Stevie Lee, I've got to get yourinitial feelings because you had

(01:18):
to watch this from afar becauseyou are a college volleyball dad
now.

SPEAKER_05 (01:24):
I am man, uh I don't know what my feelings are
exactly, man, but it would itwas uh it was tough to watch.
Um defense couldn't get stops.
Um and our offense just couldn'tget going into a rhythm that I
would like it to be in, man.
Uh it's it was uh it was toughto watch, but I'm I'm I can't

(01:45):
wait to get the other guys' umuh view on what what we saw this
weekend.

SPEAKER_11 (01:50):
All right, that's Stevie Lee.
Hi, I'm Sean Flinch.
Uh we're both the co-host of theseries, the pass rush of Stevie
Lee.
And you know what?
I love the fact that I get toask you this every time because
we love the Hardgrove family.
And it's always good to know thepeople who is doing the work,
and they have the best marketingslogan of all roofing companies

(02:11):
based out of Streeport,Louisiana.
I am having a speech impedimentall of a sudden.
Um, Streeport, Louisiana, thegreat home of the Stevie Lee,
and they are they have migratedto Texas and they are loyal
supporters of Texas LonghornAthletics, Stevie Lee.
You're uh I'm in marketing now,but you're a marketing genius

(02:31):
forstead, hardgrove roofing.
How do you properly say thatvery popular slogan that they
have?

SPEAKER_05 (02:39):
Hardgrove roofing.
No who's on your roof.

SPEAKER_11 (02:42):
Yeah, that that was with authority, and I love it.
And please go ahead and followwhile you can, because we're
gonna get deep into thisdiscussion about what happened
in Gainesville, Florida, in thatbeautiful setting that we all
love.
Dallas, Texas, at thatvenerable, leaky old girl.
Half of it's renovated.
Now we'll get into that.

(03:02):
Uh, follow us on each of oursocial media platforms.
They're all listed right there.
There's so many of them.
And Stevie, I'm very proud ofmyself, so much to the point I'm
gonna put that uh I have learnedTikTok on my resume.
It has been a journey, and wefinally have uh grown a little
bit there.
Um I I don't know how to figureout the metrics of it, but we're

(03:23):
on board.
We got it going.
Stevie, we gotta make you smile.
We want to hear those opinionsbecause uh it's a week to be
opinionated.
What do you think?
You ready for episode 485?
Let's ride.
Let's ride, baby.

SPEAKER_01 (03:59):
We still have a chance.
Um the the season is not over byany means.
Um we've you know, we lost anSNC game last year and still
made it to the championship.
So um, you know, we we're nothanging our heads thinking that
this season's over it by anymeans.

SPEAKER_11 (04:15):
All right, that was Michael Taff.
Very unorthodox,uncharacteristic performance in
every facet of that game byTexas.
Defense.
Very leaky.
Up front, both lines didn'tnever really establish
themselves.
The defensive line looked prettygood at times later in the game.
Uh Arch, I thought, and someonecalled me a Lip Tard on Twitter

(04:40):
because I said that Arch madethe most improvement on of
anybody on the team calling memaking excuses for him because
I'm a Lib Tard.
That that made me laugh.
Because anyone who knows meknows that I'm a political.
I love that word because you getto stress the word a.
But quick, I know we just talkedabout it before we bring in the

(05:03):
playmaker.
Is there anything else you'dlike to add before we just dive
deep in with two valuedopinions?

SPEAKER_05 (05:10):
No, man, I I I I'm a little bit disappointed in the
uh defensive line.
That's that was I was watchingthe game and you know that I was
hanging my hat on the defensiveline when the season was
starting.
Um, but I was watching Texasplay Texas in practice.
And so it's starting to looklike it wasn't good on good, it

(05:32):
was just okay on okay.
So yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_11 (05:36):
So reality.

SPEAKER_05 (05:37):
Yeah, it's starting to sit in, man.
So that's that's my little takeon the the defense of the
defensive line.

SPEAKER_11 (05:44):
Well, before we bring in the Mike Adams, I do
want to relay and I'm gonna keepthis guy's uh person anonymous.
All I can say is he's a formerLonghorn with great knowledge
and has watched a lot of film.
Um, he said that Florida teamwas built to beat Georgia, and

(06:04):
they are now getting theirstride.
And to think that Lagway didwhat he did to Texas and he
didn't even run, never had torun with one leg.
But he says that roster is builtto beat Georgia.
On that note, let's bring in theplaymaker 83.

(06:32):
You know, yesterday you have alot of Louisville gear because
you are a Louisville Cardinalfootball parent.
We talked to you last yesterdayevening briefly.
Um, you were at an Airbnb withyour entire family.
Louisville almost got the jobdone at Virginia.
Now we're gonna switch to yourlonghorns, adding to what Stevie

(06:54):
just said.
Oh, give me your baby Mike Adamsthoughts.
Do you agree or disagree with meabout Arch Manning?
I thought that he took a leapforward in his development.

SPEAKER_10 (07:07):
Yeah, I I think um I thought he had, and it's odd
saying, okay, out of all thegames he played this year, I
think he played his bestfootball.
That's not the best footballthat he's gonna play for his
career, obviously, but more sothan the 300-yard game he had

(07:29):
against, you know, San JoseState or San Jose State, whoever
it was, from a toughnessstandpoint.
I mean, first of all, the guytook a beating.
Took a beating, wasn't reallyprotected well.
Um, that's not to say Archdoesn't have blame in this.
I mean, because yes, he's stillmissing throws, he's still
missing reads, he may be takingsome unnecessary sacks because

(07:50):
he hold on to the ball too long.
Uh not sure he can do hisprogressions or whatever those
may look like.
I mean, I'm still kind ofquestioning what we're doing in
terms of offense.
And he's hugging there to finishthe game.
Um, you know, I think it'sdisappointing from some

(08:14):
mechanical things in terms offootwork and you know, him
hitting certain types of throws.
I don't understand why he'sstruggling with that.
And uh to me, I don't I don'teven know if I can really blame
Arch on that.
I just think that's a adevelopment issue.
I'm not quite sure where that'sgetting at as of right now.
But from a competitionstandpoint, competing, I I

(08:37):
thought he did good, man.
Again, that's not to say that hedidn't make mistakes, because
surely he made mistakes.
But from competing, just hangingin there, I I I like what he did
on Saturday, and I think it's astep in the right direction for
him, to be honest.

SPEAKER_05 (08:50):
Yeah, penalties is an undisciplined team, man.
Um just offsides.
I I know it's loud in the swamp,um, but man, you you can't you
can't win the game with thatmany penalties.
I forgot what it was.
I had it pulled up and it nowwent away.
It's it's just hard to win agame that way, man.

(09:11):
And uh Mike, I'm with you.
I didn't think that Arch didterrible.
There was some, you know,there's always gonna be some bad
negative grades on the film forhim, but um, but he wasn't
terrible.
He was he just did not have thehelp, and that was surprising to
me, man.
Um talking like offensive lineand standing straight up and
getting whiffed, you know,letting people whiff right by

(09:34):
them.
Um uh our defensive line, Idon't know if they're not
teaching them to not get blownoff the ball.
You gotta hit the ground and anduh pull that that uh offensive
lineman on top of you, you know.
So right, uh, but you know,penalties, man, is killing us
right now.
Uh all the games we've outpenalized everyone, and I think

(09:56):
we're in the bottom of thecountry, uh, penalty yards and
uh uh penalties and penaltyyards.

SPEAKER_11 (10:01):
So yeah, and that's I Mike.
I I and what Stevie's saying,everybody who's listening,
basically, Stevie just saidwe're one of the worst in the
country, or not we, Texas is oneof the worst in the country, the
most penalties, and that'sshocking for a Sarkeesian coach

(10:22):
team, in my opinion.
And what blows my mind is whydid they not go into the portal
for O-line?
Did they think that this wasokay?
Because to Mike's point, six uhArch was sacked six times and he
was hurried eight other times.
To me, it felt like he wastouched by a gator every play,

(10:46):
and I had to show y'all this,and I know it's AI, AI to me is
very dangerous.
The first time I've ever laughedat an AI-generated video, but I
saw this and I was thinking ofall three of you, and we're
gonna introduce the third onehere shortly.

SPEAKER_09 (11:01):
Dion, you've just won a brand new offensive line.
No way, a whole line, hook them,baby.
Yeah, the Texas Longhorksstarting front five, all yours
for the season.

SPEAKER_11 (11:12):
That's crazy.
Uh I'm not a big AI guy, I know,because it can be dangerous, but
are you guys to the point whereyou Mike, you think about God,
it'd be nice to have some portalguys on that O line.

SPEAKER_10 (11:30):
See, man, and I you know that's odd that we're even
talking about the portal and theO line with Texas because when
we came into the season, all weheard about was guys that are
getting ready to replace somefirst round guys.
You know, you know, we talkedabout like Trevor Goolsby and
some of these other guysstepping up, but I always felt
like the O line was gonna beyoung, inexperienced, and they

(11:53):
were gonna have some troublethis year.
I mean, I mean that was one ofmy biggest uh uh concerns going
to the season.
I'm not saying the portal is theanswer, you know, and people
want to kind of harp on thatright now.
I mean, those guys are justyoung, man.
Just like I mean, okay, if theO-line is in question and we
need to go to the portal, do weneed to do the same at
quarterback?
Do we need to do the same atreceiver?

(12:14):
Because we got blue chipfive-star guys that we recruited
to come here that we feel likecan get the job done.
They're young, man.
They're inexperienced.
I I think the number one rankingwas a little bit of a reach
considering everything thatwe've lost not only last year,
but the year before.
Two semifinal football teams.

(12:35):
Man, we got 12 or 15 guys, 20guys almost, that are in the
league from the last twofootball teams.
And that's a lot of productionloss.
So, man, guys are gonnastruggle.
I mean, I mean, Arch didn't haveto play for two years because
he's got a guy in Queen Hoo'swho's playing for the Miami
Dolphins right now.
Regardless of what round he'swinning, he's playing for the

(12:58):
Miami Dolphins right now, aseasoned guy in college that
that had a lot of football,played a lot of football in some
big time games, man.
Yeah, Arch was going to show itthis year.
You know, but the average mandoesn't understand that.
I mean, I know we footballpeople, and we get it.
I'm I'm not surprised we arewhere we are right now.
What I am surprised aboutthough, and and Stevie touched

(13:20):
on it, I'm really excited ourdefense.
I really thought it would be aknock and mouth slugging
football game, 13 to 10, 13 tozero, really.
Because Florida has beennon-existent offensively.
DJ Lagway has probably been theworst quarterback passing wise,
efficiency-wise, in the countrythe last few weeks.

(13:40):
He goes out here and we let himthrow for 300 yards.
And I I I'm really puzzled bythat.
I'm puzzled by the game plan wehad defensively.
We got no pressure on a guy whoI I guess I'm assuming he has
one leg, you know.
He hasn't been healthy.
So we should have been in hisface all game.
But he was allowed to hit somethrows down the field.

(14:01):
I I think scheme-wise,challenging the receivers
one-on-one and giving them anopportunity to make plays down
the field.
I mean, that's what happens whenyou play you know single
coverage.
But if we we we I don'tunderstand why we didn't uh copy
the blueprint that LSU laid outfor us and that Miami did.
I mean, Miami, you know, theycan get pressure with their

(14:22):
front four.
I mean, they got a guy that'sbeing talked about for the
Hosman trophy, you know,defensive end, uh, you know,
bang.
And we have a guy similar tothat.
Colin Simmons can be that.
But but I I'm not sure.
We're not, I guess we're notquite there yet defensively.
I obviously not, because I meanwe didn't get into the
backfield.
We didn't sat Blackway one time.
And man, I'm gonna wrap it up,but this makes me revert back to

(14:48):
the Texas and being soft theme.
Because we would have pushed usaround, man.
They they pushed us around.
I didn't really expect that.
And it makes you wonder, youknow, when the critics come out
and they're like, oh, yep, sheeat Texas man, those guys are
down there in the high-riseapartments, they got
Lamborghinis and all that typeof stuff.
And it's just not that that kindof makes you mad from that

(15:10):
standpoint because I know we'rebetter than that.

SPEAKER_11 (15:13):
Well, that's a good point.
And Stevie and Mike, you know,for those of you who feel the
same way and are emotionallyinvested, uh, if you need some
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(15:38):
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But one guy I know who knows alot who's gonna help us
understand all this is one of myfavorite humans.
Let's bring him in.

(16:05):
Bob Baloo, KI Sports, and I I'vegot to give it up to them.
They have entered the world ofpodcasting, and that is, we'll
just get that out of the way.
The Stampede with Stevie Lee'shead coach, the great Mac Brown,
and the legendary Vince Young.
Great job on it.
You have a great set.
Give us a little brief summaryso all of us can follow along

(16:28):
with the stampede.

SPEAKER_08 (16:30):
Absolutely.
No, it's it's been a blast to doit.
I think Mac and Vince are, youknow, Max Mac.
You we knew what we were gonnaget in Mac.
He's a tremendous storyteller,tremendous guy that just brings
out life and brings, I mean, hisenergy is you can feed off it.
Honestly, didn't know what wewere gonna get from Vince.
Vince hadn't been in the publiceye, hasn't done a lot of
podcasts or interviews sinceeven since he retired from the

(16:52):
NFL.
And uh, this has been such anawesome opportunity for him to
get to tell some of his stories,and uh he's been awesome.
I mean, he is he's the uh asincredible a teammate as you
could ever expect.
And uh it's been a blast.
We're we're we're having a lotof fun doing it.
We release an episode everyweek.
We've got a you know, you justsaid VIP entering the man cave.
Uh there's a we got a really bigVIP coming on the show this

(17:14):
week, so we're excited aboutthat too.
Uh but it's it's awesome.
I mean, we're just we're havinga blast doing it, and those guys
have just been fantastic.
Yeah, I'm gonna tell you what,uh I've been a lot of places uh
to cover games.
That's one of my favorite, ifnot right at the top.
They it was they needed no bellsand whistles, they didn't, and
that's not a knock on teams todo, that's not a knock on Texas

(17:35):
or Texas AM.
The environments are great ofboth.
Um, there was no drone show,there was no pumping crowd, you
know, music in a whole lot.
There was no, like, they werejust Florida, and they were
loud.
The press box was outside, so wegot to hear a lot of it.
It was loud.
They do the uh they sing I Won'tBack Down by Tom Petty at the
end of the third quarter, and itwas incredible.
Um it was just it was everythingyou could want in a game the

(17:58):
atmosphere, and then for it tobe obviously on their side to
have such a good game and playas well as they did, which I
think if you didn't expect that,you weren't really watching who
they were, I don't think,because they because they were
in that Miami game, they were inthat LSU game in the fourth
quarter, too, on the road atboth places against top five
teams, and it was 13-7 and 13-10in both those games.
Like they they knew you knewcoming out of a bye-week they

(18:20):
were gonna have a lot of energyand play better.
Um, and then they got DallasWilson back.
It was just unbelievable.
His first game, first game atthe college level, and he does
what he did against Texas.
Uh it was it was a spectacularatmosphere, and you know, I I
understand we're gonna get intowhat Texas did, but from the
Florida side, it was just aspecial place to be on Saturday.

SPEAKER_05 (18:40):
Yeah, I think that um I'm gonna jump in here real
quick.
The atmosphere is is is lit upthere.
I was recruited by Florida anduh went to the Florida, Florida
State game when when Peter Roerreversed field and went into the
end zone, it was so loud in thatstadium, man.
Um, and I I knew it was gonna betough playing there for the

(19:02):
Longhorns.
But uh the other thing what wasnot surprising to me, but they
knew that they were gonna winthis game.
They knew they had somethingspecial because an unranked team
beat a number nine team and notone student ran on the field.
No, they they they knew what wewere and they knew who they are.
So it's um it was it's that'sdisappointing.

(19:24):
It's disappointing to say theleast.

SPEAKER_11 (19:26):
Uh for both of you.
Um when you think about thisgame that Texas just had with
Florida, one number really stoodout to me, and it and it's
rather disturbing.
Uh, Bob, what does number 15represent for you for this?
I I when I looked at, I'll justsay this.
When I looked at the box score,I was using my math skills that

(19:47):
I learned at the great StephenF.
Austin, and I couldn't believethat that's what it was.

SPEAKER_08 (19:52):
Yeah, it's it's Tim Tebow's number, right?
That's where it's correct, andthey're retiring it here in
Austin, too.
And they Texas honored him byrunning for 15 yards.
Uh you know, listen, I I thinkthe run game is uh, I mean,
Shark talked about it this week.
It's an issue.
I mean, it's they've got tofigure something out.
I think, you know, number one,losing CJ Baxter, I think, has

(20:13):
been a much bigger deal thanwhat people want to give it
credit for.
Um I think he, you know, againstI go back to that Ohio State
game.
They ran for 166 yards againstOhio State.
I know that's not great, butthere weren't a lot of
possessions in that game.
And I I they ran it fine.
I and they've run it fine untilSaturday.
I think this offensive line, itwas the same as the defensive

(20:33):
line off the start.
But this offensive line justkind of got punched in the face
and didn't know how to take it.
Uh Florida was shifting rightbefore the snap.
The Stark said that gave themsome issues.
And then when Dravian Weisner'scoming off injury, he has eight
carries for 11 yards.
We didn't see Jared Gibson atall.
They ran some Ryan Nibblet, theyran a couple of the Christian
Clark carries, but like, youknow, it goes back to kind of

(20:56):
one of the things we talkedabout.
They don't have the explosiveguy to back that they had in
Jadon Blue last year.
That's a that's an issue.
I mean, it's they don't havethat guy.
And against Ohio State, theywere able to run it with CJ and
Quintravian both.
I think losing CJ was big, um,not just from a veteran
experience standpoint, but froma guy who could really make a
difference offensive.
And again, he's not thebreak-it-loose speed guy, but

(21:19):
but he brings a differentelement that I feel like Texas
doesn't have right now.
And that's it's not to knock onQuintravian.
I, you know, I don't think hewas a thousand-yard rusher in
the SEC last year.
Um but they they just gottafigure out a way to get the run
game going, and they couldn't doit off the start, and it never
got going, and it was it's itwas absolutely an issue on
Saturday.
My my assumption is they willfind a way to make that better

(21:41):
by this Saturday.
You're gonna have to if you'reif you're gonna beat Oklahoma.
Um, but I you know, Saturday wasreally rough to watch.
Um and even with Arch running aswell as he did on a few of the a
few of the plays on thescrambles, um, it never it never
really opened up that Floridadefense, and Texas just wasn't
able to run the ball.

SPEAKER_11 (21:59):
Stevie, I wanted to save this topic for you.
I I know we mentioned it, thedefense absolutely I'm just in
shock because we haven't seenthem give up the run and have
teams seal off the edge.
And I know they played threeinferior opponents, but the run
on Texas, Stevie, I mean, foryou to see that, and was there

(22:21):
any type of stat that youremember from this game that
maybe Bob could better elaborateon because he was there on the
field and above?

SPEAKER_05 (22:31):
Um, I don't know what the stat is for uh yards at
the first contact, but um wewere getting there.
Uh, I think we did not play wellon defense.
And I'm sorry, give me uhFlorida's running back's name.
What's his name?
Jaden Baugh.
Jaden Baugh.
Jaden Baugh.

(22:52):
He is he's actually pretty good,guys.
Yeah.
Um, I I um yes, we did play playbad on defense, but the way he
was putting his shoulder down,the way he was making people
miss and bouncing, bouncingpeople off of him.
I was like, um, we're notplaying well, but that kid is
pretty good.
He's pretty good.
And I think that we um we mayhave underestimated Florida, but

(23:15):
um just just keep a lookout onJayton.
He's he's actually really,really good.
Um but my when it comes down tomy defensive line, they were
getting blown off the ballsomeplace, like push back five
yards.
That that just cannot happen.
One, that just can't happen atthe University of Texas.
I'm I'm sorry.

(23:36):
That I that's that that's whatwe we hung our hat on.
Big linemen um taking over theline of scrimmage on both sides
of the ball.
So that right there was reallydisappointing to me.
Uh, but it's it's it was andthen no one could get to the uh
a quarterback with a hobbledleg, you know.

(23:57):
We couldn't get to him like it.
Um it it felt it felt like um wewere still trying to run base
defense when we needed to youknow pull out some tricks and
things like that, but it it wewe couldn't get anything done on
defense.
Now, I would still be saying thesame thing if we would have
drive driven down the field andwent for two and tied the game

(24:18):
up in one in overtime.
We still got we I would havestill said the same thing if
we'd have pulled out that win,but um, it it's just some some
things that we still gotta workon that um and another thing,
guys.
What I noticed is you stillyou're supposed to get better
and better, right?
Throughout the season.
I'm I'm just not seeing it.
I'm not seeing how uh Arch Archgot a little bit better, but the

(24:41):
as a team, no.
I'm not seeing us gettingbetter, I see us uh regressing,
in fact.

SPEAKER_11 (24:46):
Best thing about Mondays is you can't look back
to Sunday because that's the dayafter the game, and then so far
that 24-hour rule was 48 hoursago.
Yeah, but we all even as fansand and media members, we can't
you really can't look backunless there's stories.
But what we can do before wetalk about what I think is one

(25:07):
of the greatest sporting eventson this planet, I've got to show
you.
We do that, Bob.
We do this thing.
A lot of people do these uhpower rankings.
Uh it's not really, it's more ofa rating type deal, but there
are two blue buds on our latestedition, which I'm sorry, I had.
I mean, there was nojustification to keep them.

(25:29):
Let's see if you can point outwhich two are no longer among
this on this fraternity.

(26:00):
Dennis Franklin and SteveSarkeesian are not having a good
Monday.
Or best weekend.
More so Penn State.

SPEAKER_08 (26:09):
Hey, Clinch, can I ask you a question?

SPEAKER_11 (26:10):
Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_08 (26:11):
When Missouri just absolutely houses Alabama this
weekend, will you please putthem in the top five?
I think they're interchangeable.
Okay, thank you.
I'll be sure.

SPEAKER_11 (26:21):
So the same coach that I've referenced earlier, he
said your Missouri running backis perhaps the best running back
in the country.
Ahmad Hardy is fantastic.

SPEAKER_08 (26:31):
They're the best rushing attack in the SEC.
And I think obviously this weekwill be the week to prove it
when you go up against anAlabama front, like they have.
But but I'm just telling youright now, like the the
combination of Robertson andAhmad Hardy has been fantastic
for them.
And um, you know, I'm an AP pollvoter and I've got them ranked
sixth right now.
And I know that's been higherthan everybody else, but it's
been higher than everybody elsefor the last two years.

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And Missouri's kind of proven meright.
They won 11 games two years agoand 10 games last year, and
Drake's really got it going.
I mean, Eli Drakewitz is doing agreat job there.
Um, this is not an alma materproduction.
I'm not just here to do.
Um, but I but I will say umthey've just they've they've
been really good and reallyconsistent this year, and I
think if they can get therunning attack going against

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Alabama, they've got they've gota real chance to win that game
Saturday in Columbia.

SPEAKER_05 (27:18):
Let me let me say something about number 12, uh
Georgia Tech.
Uh so Blake Gideon left Texas,his alma mater, to go be the
defensive coordinator at uhGeorgia Tech.
And at first I was like, man,what are you doing?
You in a dream place, you're inAustin, Texas.
Uh he was a client of mine, soldhim a house out in Dripping
Springs, very nice house.

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He beautiful family andeverything.
And I was like, why are youleaving to go to Georgia Tech?
Looks like it's a pretty goodmove for him.
Look like it's a pretty goodmove.
He now we're talking about him,he's in the top 12.
Um, so I'm happy for the kid.
I text him every now and thenwhenever he has a good game.
So good, good on that defenseover there at Georgia Tech.

SPEAKER_11 (27:58):
They can win that league.
Yeah, they can see.
Um, so between Bob Baloo and I,I'm gonna give a rough estimate
40 Red River rivalries, andbetween Stevie and Mike, I mean,
they played uh uh 10 maybetotal, and you've been to many

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more than that.
So there's a lot of experiencein this room with this game.
So, in a very dramatic, probablytoo long at length, this is what
we're gonna transition to.

SPEAKER_07 (28:36):
I don't have to get a lot of that was a little

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dramatic.

SPEAKER_11 (29:11):
And and then you can tell.

SPEAKER_05 (29:13):
It was not, it was spot on, man.
I'm so fired up right now.

SPEAKER_11 (29:17):
Yeah, you guys can tell that I haven't been on the
field in a while, so my uh my uharchive of photos are reaching a
decade almost.
But uh we'll start with MikeAdams because you're driving,
and then we're very impressedwith your 10 and 2 skills while
being a guest on a podcast, andand and your wife is very secure

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as a as a passenger princesswith you in her hands.
That's very nice.
You we'll start with the playerperspective.
Mike, you've you were on thatfield in '94 with James Brown
when when Texas finally beatthem.
Well, not finally, you guys wonfour straight.

SPEAKER_10 (30:00):
Well, we actually won my freshman year.
That was Peter Gardeer's fourthstraight win against OU in '92.
We came back and lost in 93.
I I'm not gonna uh say that wasbecause that was my best
statistical game playing againstOU because I did go for like two
touchdowns and a buck 20, andyou know, but that was actually

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like my coming out party into myown as a receiver because Maggie
started to throw me the ball.
But um, man, we beat him in 94,the JB game, Stony Clark, you
know, stopping on the goal line,and then 95, man, when when we
kind of had a resurgence as a asa program, you know, that's the
one blemish on our recordbesides the Virginia Tech loss

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in the Sugar Bowl.
We tied OU after being up 24-0at the half.
I I mean, you know, they were agood team, we were a good team.
And um, if we win that game,obviously, I mean, we're going
into the bowl game, we mighteven be at a better bowl because
we were we were like would havebeen 11 and 1 going to that bowl
game and you know, top five, allthat kind of stuff.
But uh, you know, and then mysenior year we lost a game with

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the first overtime rules, andum, they were a winless football
team, uh winless.
So robbery, man, that thisparticular game here, no one
cares what happened the weekbefore, no one cares what's
gonna happen at the end of theseason.
If you don't come ready to playthis particular week right here,
uh whether you're ranked numberone, and we've seen it.

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I've grown up and watched OUTexas games when uh torrental
downpour, Jeff Ward kicking a50-yard field goal to tie it up
in 84, I believe.
And I I I've seen it on bothsides, man.
You gotta come ready to play, orit really could ruin your
season, especially back in theday when there was only you know
two teams chosen by the polls,it could affect the rest of the

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season.
I mean, now obviously we got theplayoff, but you gotta have your
chin strap buckled up, head onthe swivel, man, all those
little cliche words and sayingyou gotta be ready this week.

SPEAKER_11 (32:00):
Stevie, before we go to Bob's perspective from
today's press conference, uhStevie, what's your baby
favorite memory in which you cantruly accurately paint the
picture of what this game islike for someone who's never
been on that field, that tunnel,or in those locker rooms that
face each other?

SPEAKER_05 (32:19):
Well, I'm I'm gonna reveal uh dirty secret is um I
don't like it to be out there,but I've never beat OU.
Oh my god.
2005, uh, we I never beat OU.
But there's my ball.
I never lost against AM, sothat's my claim to fame, right?

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Anyway, but um the worst, Idon't know if I told you this
last year, Clinch, but uh I wasuh doing a um a pregame show
with um golly, I forget hisname.
But anyway, I was doing apregame show, so I got uh access
to sideline passes while I wasout of school, a couple years

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out of school, right?
And I'm a large human being,right?
Um I mean Philip Geiger weresitting on the sideline, and I
said, I'm gonna walk down hereto the other end of the field.
The other end of the field wasthe OU fans, right?
And so I'm standing on thesideline by myself and I'm just
watching the game.
Uh it was kind of quiet in thestadium.

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It just it was just I was justdown there watching the game.
I'm gonna be quick.
Um, and all of a sudden I hear,hey Bebo! Hey Bebo, about 10, 15
times, hey Bebo! Bebo! Hey Bebo!And I'm like, Bebo's on the
other end of the field.

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What is this person talkingabout?
And so I turn around and hiswhole section starts to laugh.
And I was like, he's talkingabout me, guys.
I drop my head and just walk tothe other end of the field, man.
So those are the kind of fansand the hostile environment that
we gotta play in front of.
I they're just mean, they'remean people, man, and uh, and I

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don't like them, I don't likethem at all.
And I I I in my head, and I I'llgo down, and I'm another mistake
I made is I walked up to AmarBrooks and Phillip, and I tell
them the story, and they're theyjust die, they were rolling on
the sidelines just laughingbecause it was pretty clever.
I'm not gonna lie.

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I'm not gonna lie.
Hey Bivo, yeah, hey Bivo.

SPEAKER_11 (34:29):
This but Bob, before we go to you, I I wanted to show
this is from I think post-gameOU and Kent State, OU 144-0.
Of course, Brent was asked, um,what do you think about Texas
and their problems?
And these coaches don't, I mean,I don't think he was
exaggerating.

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I think he was legit theirproblems.
I'm worried about our problemsfor the most part.
This is Brent after their gameSaturday.

SPEAKER_04 (34:56):
Every every team in college football got problems.
And uh, you know, so whateverthose are.
Um, you know, we I'm worriedabout what what our problems are
and where we need to get better.

SPEAKER_11 (35:08):
So, Bob, you were at uh Sark's availability today,
and uh the players, of course.
I think, did you did you talk toany of the players today?
I can't remember.

SPEAKER_08 (35:18):
I was there for a little bit, but not much.

SPEAKER_11 (35:21):
Well, the big question for OU side, Mateir
had.
I mean, in Oklahoma, they areputting Dr.
Shin up on a pedestal that he'sa god because he may save
Matthew in order for him toplay.
But do you honestly expectMathir to be trotted out there
against Texas?

SPEAKER_08 (35:41):
The second that they said John Matheir was having
surgery, the first thing I saidwas he'll play against Texas.
And I think there's I just stillto this point have very little
doubt that he will play against.
I don't care what Venables saidSaturday about, you know, we
expect him to be out, whatever.
I think all that's gamesmanship.
I think John Matthew will startSaturday against Texas, and I

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will be stunned if he doesn't.
Um, I think again, this is theit's it's Texas OU.
I mean, I you're he's they'regonna do everything they can to
get him ready and make sure he'sready to go.
Again, it may be too quick andmaybe he doesn't end up playing.
I two years ago, I thought, orthree years ago, whenever it
was, I thought Dylan Gabrielwould play.
He didn't play.
Um, but that was a little morereasonable.

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I think there were some thingsgoing on there.
I feel like Matthew's gonnaplay.
Um if Hawkins plays, it's a realissue for Oklahoma.
And I I, you know, the Texasdefense is gonna be they'll be
ready.
I think, you know, Saturdayagainst Florida, I think they
just got punched in the mouthearly and they weren't ready for
it.
There's some guys, Hero Canoeplayed last year for Ohio State
in big atmospheres, but thinkabout like the Cole Bravards

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coming from Purdue, MaraudWatson coming from Syracuse,
Travis Shaw coming from NorthCarolina.
You know, that there weren't alot of guys that had played in
that type atmosphere, and Ithink they just got punched and
they were like, what's going on?
And it kind of carried over.
Malik Mohammed didn't play onSaturday.
That was a big loss for Texas aswell.
So um I they're gonna be readySaturday.
I I I think I still thinkthey're an elite defense, and I

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think they'll be ready.
Um, I think the the biggerquestion is, you know, and if
it's Hawkins again, I thinkthat's a real issue for
Oklahoma.
Um, as much as they can talkabout, he's improved.
I mean, go watch that Kent Statetape.
He wasn't great.
I think he threw for 162 yardsand ran for another 35 or
whatever.
Like he just wasn't great.
And so um Texas obviouslydominated him last year for all

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the reasons I just said.
I think John Matthew will be thestarting quarterback for
Oklahoma Saturday.

SPEAKER_11 (37:33):
We'll start with you guys, Mike, and then uh Stevie,
just whatever questions you mayhave for Bob.
And I'll start with this.
This this shocks me, and it'sprobably moved since then.
Texas is a three and a halfpoint favorite, and I don't
understand that.

SPEAKER_08 (37:46):
That's all Hawkins.

SPEAKER_11 (37:47):
Hawkins.
That's the Hawkins.

SPEAKER_08 (37:49):
I really believe that.
Like, I really believe they Ithink they listen.
Try to try to.
I think we we all get caught upin everything that goes on, but
really Sartre kind of mentionedthis a little bit today, too.
But but I've been thinking aboutthis.
If before the year started, yousaid Texas went to Ohio State
and Texas went to Florida andlost, there wouldn't be that
wouldn't be a stunningdevelopment.

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You wouldn't just be like out ofyour mind.
I can't believe they lost tothose two teams.
Like Ohio State was a defendingnational champion.
Everybody thought Florida wasgonna take a big step this year.
You go on the road in the SEC,that's always tough anyway.
No, no, when they go toStarkville, it's gonna be tough
to overcome some of thosethings.
It's just the road, it's the wayit is in this league.
Um, and there are probably 12 or13 good teams in this league

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right now.
So um, I wouldn't say I wasstunned by that, but I I think
that three and a half point lineprobably makes sense from the
from the vantage point of um Ithink the under makes a lot more
sense.
That if that over-under was 30,I'd probably take the under
right now.
But um, but I I just I thinkit's because they don't think
Matir's gonna play, um, and Ithink that's that's probably

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part of it.

SPEAKER_11 (38:54):
Go ahead, Mike.

SPEAKER_10 (38:56):
Yeah, I mean, I I I agree with everything Bob said.
I mean, I I I thinkwholeheartedly I believe
Matear's plan.
I mean, first of all, hefinished the game in which he
broke his thumb in.
So I I think them having surgeryon it, I mean, it's more, I
mean, I I obviously you want tofix it.
And they they they found thebest doctor this side of uh of

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the Mississippi River, and youknow, like I said, they put him
up on a pedestal now.
Guy's pretty famous.
But he's gonna be even morefamous after the game if OU gets
the the you know the desiredresults that they want.
But but Matthew's playing thatgame.
Too much on the line for OU,man.
I mean, they're top 10 rightnow.
You know, the college footballplayoff is hanging the balance,

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you weren't even picked to beatTexas at the beginning of the
year.
I mean, your your program was inshambles, according to the
public.
And here you are now, you seemto have turned it around.
The momentum from a lot ofviewpoints, OU has it, and they
don't want that to die out.
And I agree with everything hesaid about Hawkins.
I mean, Hawkins just learned anew offense.

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And it probably looked like thatagainst a Kens State football
team.
He's not ready for a Texasdefense.
Texas will find itself again ifHawkins uh plays his game and
starts.
Matter of fact, if he does, youcan you can go ahead and double
that that three and a half pointfavorite.
We'll win by double digits, tobe honest.

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Because Hawkins is not ready.

SPEAKER_11 (40:24):
Stevie, I thought of you.
The intriguing matchups.
Well, I mean, I can't reallythink of one in particular other
than who has trotted out aquarterback.
Is there anything that you'vebeen thinking about as far as
players or matchups between along Longhorns and the Sooners?
Anything in particular?

SPEAKER_05 (40:43):
Well, I've been thinking about what our offense
needs to do to put some pointsup on the board.
I think that our defense canhold them.
I think that that um we someone,anybody that's out there
betting, she'll take the under.
But um, we need to put points onthe board.
So what I did see in the Floridagame is Arch was rolling out to

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his left and he made some playsthat way.
Um, but those were scramblesbasically.
But I think putting him out,taking him out of the pocket,
rolling him out to the left andright may help him.
Um he can see down the field, hestill has his eyes down the
field, but he also can tuck thatthing and run it, you know?
So uh I think that um thatshould actually put some

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wrinkles into the um into theput that into the game plan for
a couple of wrinkles.
I do like uh some of the trickplays that they called that that
just didn't hit uh on offense.
Uh but it it I think if we playa little bit better on offense,
we we we're we're still in boththose games that we lost.
We got to remember.

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And and and Bob, Bob, what youjust said earlier kind of made
me feel like that I'm being toonegative because we did have
some positive, right?
So um I don't know, Bob, what doyou think about what does our
offense need to do against thisOU defense to uh come out and uh
successful?

SPEAKER_08 (42:05):
To your point, I mean Oklahoma is basically
number one in the conference atjust about every statistic
defensively.
And I think that matchup againstthe offensive line is gonna be
the one that it's not you don'tneed Texas to take this step
where all of a sudden thisoffensive line understands
everything and accomplisheseverything it wants to
accomplish.
You need them to some find somekind of stability in some way.

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Just don't let them get to thequarterback, don't let them get
the pressure that they got onSaturday.
And I think that's gonna bemaybe the biggest part of this.
Usually, when we go into thisgame, what do we say?
Whoever runs the ball better isgonna win the game.
That ends up being so much ofthis game.
Who's the tougher, more physicalteam?
And I think by getting punchedin the mouth on Saturday, I
think that that will put intheir minds we need to be the

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more physical team.
We need to be that team that wethink we can be.
And we weren't that on Saturday.
And usually when that happens,you respond pretty well.
I know it's a young team, um,but I would just think, I would
think there's enough experiencethere.
There are gonna be enough peopletelling them they that's who
they need to be Saturday againstOklahoma.
Now, are they gonna run for 250yards?

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Probably not.
I mean, I think we kind of, whenyou're through five games, you
kind of know who you are.
But if if Texas can run for 150yards Saturday, I think that's
gonna free up enough for Arch tobe able to do some things uh
offensively with the widereceivers, get the tight ends
involved, that they gotta getJack Endries back involved
somehow.
Um, and I think if you can dothat, if you can 125, 150 yards
rushing, that might be enough,especially if Hawkins plays.

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But but either way, I think thatmight be enough to solidify some
things for them offensively, getthem a little stable, calm them
down a little bit, and thenagain, let Arch play with the
intensity he played with againstSam Houston.
I didn't think he did thatenough against Florida.
And I think it's regressed andthen it comes back and then it
goes.
And that's a young quarterbacktrying to figure out who he is.
Um I hope his mom saying youshouldn't have gotten in that

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defender's place didn't affecthim too much because he needs to
get in somebody's face.
That's what he needs to, that'swho he is.
And until he's that guyconsistently, um, he might he
might struggle a little bit attimes.
But um, but yeah, I think that'sthe biggest thing.
Just just find a way to run theball a little bit against
Oklahoma, and I think you'll beall right.

SPEAKER_10 (44:09):
So, Bob, let me ask you a question real quick.
Yeah, um, what do you thinkabout this?
This made me think about um, andI really haven't seen it all
year, especially going into thisgame.
I I think us playing with tempois gonna be very, very
important.
Because when you have anoffensive line that's
struggling, you have a run gamethat's struggling as a result,
and they're getting the arch,you know, almost every other

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play, it seems.
You know, Stevie Lee, youtouched on it just now, and I
think I hit it last week,getting arch on some boots, some
sprint out type of plays toprotect them to help create some
space between him and thedefense.
But man, playing us playing withmore tempo, right?
Because when you're all line andstruggling, and we we we're not
gonna be able to just sit thereand block these guys big on big

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and line up each and every play.
I mean, Florida brought fourguys for the most part and was
getting the arch.
Okay, so but I but I think if weplay OU with some tempo, because
they're not expecting it.
They haven't seen it from us atall on Tate this year.
Let's get him on the move, man.
Let's get him playing in kind ofa two-minute mode type of tempo.
Do you think that'll help ushave some success in trying to

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help our run game out and evenkeep pressure uh off arch?

SPEAKER_08 (45:18):
Yeah, and we talk, we everybody talks about what
what a good play caller SteveSarkeesian is, and I think that
he's he's probably struggled alittle bit trying to figure out
what they can actually do thisyear.
They they they I don't thinkthey have an identity.
I think it's been a realstruggle uh because of CJ Baxter
and Quintravian Weisner'sinjuries.
They tried to figure out likewhat can we do well, and I don't
think he knows yet.
And I think that's been an issuefor his play calling.

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But I think you're right.
You're you're gonna have to dosomething, especially as elite
as this Oklahoma defense hasbeen this year.
You're gonna have to dosomething different.
And maybe it is tempo.
I love that idea, especially ifit can wear out that defense a
little bit.
Uh wear out those defensivelines, defensive tackles, those
defensive linemen.
Um, try to get a little tempogoing.
I love that idea.
Now, again, you have to trustyour offense enough to be able

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to do that.
You can't, you know, if you gofast and go three and out,
that's not good.
You don't want to get yourdefense on the field.
So you you've got to be able to.
I think that's the thing though.
I don't know that Sark knowswhat he can trust yet.
Until he's able to figure thatout.
He can't they've got to figureout something though, because
this OU defense is gonna comefast on Saturday and they know
what they're facing.

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And it may be a little bit whatwe talked about against Florida,
too.
This I thought this was themaybe one of the biggest things
that happened Saturday.
Obviously, the penalties werebad, but the punning, Jack
Bomeester is great.
And they had three opportunitiesto pin them inside the five, and
they missed all three of thoseopportunities.
And as Sartre mentioned today,that's 60 yards.
I mean, that's a that's asignificant amount of offense

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that you can you can pinsomebody deep.
They missed all three of those.
I thought that was gonna be thebiggest thing because I thought
that game would be low scoring,and I think this one probably
will be too.
Kick some field goals, don't youdon't have to go for it on
fourth and two at the 11.
If you're on the 42, go aheadand pump the ball.
And if you can pin them insidethe five, your defense is gonna
be able to.

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That's an elite defense.
I still believe that.
And I think that that's how youwin games like this.
I don't I hope Sartre doesn't goaway from that because he did a
really good job of doing itagainst Florida.
It just wasn't successful.
So can he maintain that?
Because he's the aggressivecoach, he's the guy that has
that in his head.
Can he maintain that?
I think that's another big partof it as well.

SPEAKER_05 (47:25):
Yeah, the other part of that is uh maybe not trusting
our punt team all the way.
We had one block, you know,right?
And and we're the school, wedon't get our punts blocked, we
go in block punts, uh, andsomething something's off on
that as well.
And we got to get into um uh ouruh our bag again with the

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special teams because specialteams is kind of lacking again.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 (47:51):
Another former Longhorn had mentioned that
questioning Jeff Banks.
What's going on there?
Um, to everyone you guysmentioned about the offense, I
think it is encouraging thatParker Livingston that horror
amazing catch, but took thatcrazy shot to his knee.
It the imaging was uh negative,it's on and that's very

(48:15):
fortunate.
Um, but I also think to yourpoint about uh Arch, we need to
work on uh they need to work onthe 10-second remaining in the
game offense, yeah, with notimeouts.
Uh yeah, that was hard to watch.
That was just hard.
There was no urgency, and younever you hope your team is
never in that situation, butlet's be honest.

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But they had a chance there atthe end to not only tie it up,
win it, or go to overtime.
That's what I meant to say.

SPEAKER_08 (48:45):
And Clinch, isn't that wild?
And to think about this, I'llI'll play the Boptimist here for
a little bit.
I love being the Boptimist.
Um Texas played really bad forthe most part against Ohio State
offensively.
Texas played terrible on offenseand defense and really special
teams against Florida.
And in both of those games, theyhad the ball with under a minute
to go to go tie the game.

(49:05):
How like, think about how wildthat is to think all we talk
about after both those games ishow bad they played, what went
wrong, what went wrong.
And they still had a chance totie it with under a minute to
go.
That's wild to me.
And I think it it speaks to thetalent this team has, to the
fight and resolve they're tryingto show, and maybe what they can
be as they grow as a as anoffense and as a team down the

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road.

SPEAKER_11 (49:26):
That's a valid point that no one, at least I have
not, heard anyone mention.
Bob Baloo, you're a greatstoryteller on the air, on your
podcast.
Go watch him on KI, follow Bobat Bob Baloo Sports.

(49:50):
I mean, every every person inhere except the bald white guy
is a great storyteller in here.
Uh, but Bob Baloo, is there anyother story maybe that you that
really you dig deep and youthink that needs to be told
that's just as comical today asit was when it happened?

SPEAKER_08 (50:07):
Yeah, I'm gonna give you two, and one of them will be
really quick.
Uh, we were at dinner in 2014,and my mom saw Barry Switzer,
and she went over to him andwanted to just introduce.
She went to Texas, graduatedfrom Texas.
She said, Hey, would you take apicture with my daughter-in-law
and me?
So this is my mom on the left,Barry in the middle, and uh my
wife on the right.
And you may notice somethinghere.

(50:27):
Who's doing the hook'em?

SPEAKER_11 (50:29):
Oh!

SPEAKER_08 (50:30):
Bob that is Barry Switzer doing the hook'em horns
with my mom's Switzer.
So I always love that story.
I always I always bring it outfor Texas OUE because it's
always fun to uh to have alittle fun with that.
But I'll give you the the storyI would only tell in the man
cave.
Uh in 2018, we were at the atthe sugar bowl, and uh I was
getting dressed uh in my room,and there was a knock on the

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door, and I went to the door,and it was Clinch.
And uh so Clinch came in.
We we were I was sharing rooms,it was Anthony Huronimo, the the
legend that I worked with, anduh he's in the room.
We're all getting ready to go.
I I might I had on a blue shirtif I remember correctly.
I know Clinch has this, but Ihad on a blue shirt and boxers,
I was getting ready to put mypants on, and I had one white
sock on that was pulled up tolike my knee, and I was getting

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ready to put the other one onand put my pants on, and Clinch
took a picture of me.
And so I've got this picture outthere that he could blackmail me
with at any point.
That's me in a dress shirt withboxers and one sock up to my
knee with a look on my face thatis basically like, Why do you
have your camera out?
Why are you taking a picture?

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So, my man cave story to you isdon't ever get caught in a room
getting dressed when Sean Clinchis in there because you never
know what's gonna happen.

SPEAKER_05 (51:43):
That's good to know.
That's really good to know.
Thank you.
I appreciate that.
I'm gonna kick you out in theroom, man.

SPEAKER_08 (51:50):
Don't pull that picture out, Clinch.

SPEAKER_11 (51:53):
That is in a lockdown app on my phone with
the OnlyFans foot pictures.
Hey, there are a lot of photosfrom that, and yeah, well, I
think we can all agree.
Any a lot of photos in NewOrleans, they stay on our

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phones.
They don't they're notdistributed on platforms.
I think you're supposed todelete them, is what I yeah, you
gotta delete that, man.
And then you hey, here's atrick.
Just because you delete apicture on your phone does not
mean it's deleted, you gotta goto your delete box and empty
that.

SPEAKER_08 (52:32):
Why do you know this, Clint?

SPEAKER_10 (52:35):
I don't know.
Hey, remember, guys, remember,it's always out there in the
iCloud universe.
So you think you're deleted, butyou're not that is a great
point.

SPEAKER_11 (52:47):
Oh, even after you delete the delete, I would I
would trust that.

SPEAKER_08 (52:53):
Yes, I go I go to your iCloud and look for it.
That'd be a smart one, Clint.

SPEAKER_11 (52:57):
Oh my gosh.
Now you now I'm I'm I'm a littleanxious right now.
What may be on that cloud.
Hey Bobby, always a pleasure.
And follow him at Kay.
I have Mack Adams, assistantprincipal in the Flugerville
ISD, does an amazing job stillchanging young people's lives.
Uh that was an amazing receiverduring a time in which Texas was

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trying to get back, and theydid.
And it's a good human, and weappreciate you both.
And I hope to see you guys bothin Dallas this weekend.

SPEAKER_10 (53:31):
Yes, sir, man.
Plan to make it up there.
It's gonna be a fun one.
Hadn't been to one, hadn't beento one in 20-something years.
Oh my god! Wow, oh wow.
So the last one, the last one Iwent to, I believe it was 03,
and kind of similar to Stevie'sstory.
I'm on the sidelines on oursideline, and I believe it was
03.

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Yeah, 01, 03, I don't know.
But Superman was playing and heoh god.
You know, he Teddy Lennon cameup with the the box, you know,
interception on the two-yardline and walking the end zone.
I didn't even know what hadhappened because I was on the
other end of the field.
You know, it happened on theopposite end.
Didn't know what happened untilI got home that night to the

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hotel and saw that his arm washit.
I all I heard was just crimsonin the stadium screaming at that
time.
So that was I'll I'll neverforget that image.
Just seeing what happened, man.
Crazy game right there.

SPEAKER_11 (54:26):
That's it's a fun game, and nobody knows what what
the hell we're talking aboutunless you actually experience
it.
And I'll say it, I think youguys can all agree.
I don't care if you're not ifyou're a non-sports fan, this is
something that you have toexperience.
The state fair, all the aromas,the mayhem, the weird people,
it's just good people watching,and then seeing that stadium.

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It's to me, it is why weromanticize college football.
Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_08 (54:56):
Corny dog and a beer, Clinch.
Corny dog and a beer.

SPEAKER_11 (55:01):
Hey if we can all link up, the first round of wax
cup beers are on me.
I still have coupons from lastyear.

SPEAKER_08 (55:11):
Get your yeah, get your coupons.

SPEAKER_11 (55:13):
Hey, love you boys.

SPEAKER_08 (55:16):
All right, man.

SPEAKER_10 (55:16):
Love y'all, be good.
Hook them this week all day.
Boomers sooner night.

SPEAKER_08 (55:24):
Like, what time is it?
It's 3:34.

SPEAKER_11 (55:28):
And all you feel.
Leave it.
That was perfect by the formerLonghorns.
Uh, I still have a story when uhBob teed up Brecken Hager very
well one year in 2018.
They had just beaten Iowa State.
No, no.
Who was it that night?

SPEAKER_08 (55:46):
I can't remember Oklahoma lost to Kansas.

SPEAKER_11 (55:49):
That's what I remember.
Oh, and then Bob teed him up andsaid, Hey, we're in the
interview room, the old one.
And we're interviewing.

SPEAKER_08 (55:56):
We didn't, we hadn't talked about it.
And I said to Brecken, hey, didyou see Oklahoma lost to Kansas?
And he literally just looked upat the clock and he goes, Well,
it is 10.07 and OU still sucks.
I mean, like, John Bianco andThomas Stepp were ready to like
tackle him.
Like, we because he had gottenthrough the whole, he had been,
you know, he kind of ran hismouth a little bit at times,

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which was awesome.
He was we loved him.

SPEAKER_11 (56:19):
We loved Brecken.

SPEAKER_08 (56:20):
Great kid.
And he he they had gottenthrough this entire interview
without anything happening.
And I mean, it was like he wasgetting ready to walk out, and I
just said, Oh, did you happen tosee it?
And he made the comment, and Imean, they were like, No.

SPEAKER_10 (56:36):
He did it.
That was beautiful.
Hey, perfect.
It's Bulge and Bore week, baby.
Let's get it.
Let's go.
This is a give us something,Arch.
Say it, Arch.
Man, OU sucks.
I don't care.
We lost a floor, but OU sucks.
Let's go.

SPEAKER_11 (56:54):
Man, I love many.
We got some boldness.
Now I've done some funinterviews when Mike was in the
high school coaching.
That one week I went out there.
I for I'll have to dig it up.
And he was horrible all over thecamera.
It was beautiful.
And he was even more fun whenMike was uh in his prime and
early 20s.

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That was you talk about a hewould have fit in in the old
school Florida State teams inMiami.
No doubt.
No doubt.
Hey, much love, boys.
And we're gonna take a quickbreak.
We're gonna have the new NILpartner talk about hardgrove
roofing and how he would uhmarket hardgrove roofing.
And we're gonna talk about uhwe're gonna look at the

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renovations that have takenplace.
I don't notice it, but ChipBrown talks about it.
The renovations at the cottonball.
Mom MA, much love.
See y'all.
See you boys.
We'll see you boys.

SPEAKER_03 (57:57):
What I'd like to do is and then I like to do things.

SPEAKER_11 (58:09):
The boy is a cozy Austin original bar and grill
that feels like home.
Boulevard bar and grill nestledinto this Northwest Hill strip
mall recently celebrated twodecades.
Drink prices are like going backto 2004.
It's where familiar facesgather, and everyone knows your
name.
The bully family are alsofriends of the stories inside

(58:32):
the Make Day Podcast.
Boulevard Barn Grill on Far WestBoulevard in Northwest Austin.

SPEAKER_06 (59:18):
And since most of the traffic enters the cotton
bowl there, they focused$140million on that side of the
cotton bowl.
Supposed to be widenedconcourses, more concessions, 14
new escalators to get people inand out, up to the upper deck
and out of there.

(59:38):
We'll see.
We've you know better bathrooms,allegedly.
Um now they're gonna get to theeast side by 2034.

SPEAKER_11 (59:55):
It sounds like the city of Austin is running that
project.

SPEAKER_05 (59:58):
Yeah, no question.

SPEAKER_11 (01:00:00):
That's ineptitude again.
I swear, man, all these allthese cities, it's amusing to
me.

SPEAKER_05 (01:00:06):
Yeah, absolutely.
But um, they do know they haveto do something to keep the game
there.
Uh, I'm glad that they'rethinking about it.
That game should not moveanywhere else.
It needs to always be rightthere in the comedy.

SPEAKER_11 (01:00:19):
Be right there.
I know people disagree.
Um, hey, the TikTok in the mancave.
Um, have you decided what you'regonna be for Halloween yet, or
are you still undecided?

SPEAKER_05 (01:00:28):
I have not even thought about Halloween.

SPEAKER_11 (01:00:31):
I haven't either, but I think this this costume
would be fitting for us.
Um, you know, just this displayall the the bones we have in our
body.

SPEAKER_05 (01:00:53):
Funky Cole Medina.
That's that's that's a greatoutfit.
That's a that's a great costume.

SPEAKER_11 (01:01:03):
You think that would that'd be the talk of the party?

SPEAKER_05 (01:01:07):
It would be the talk of the party.

SPEAKER_02 (01:01:09):
Hey Ben, tell me something good.

SPEAKER_11 (01:01:16):
All right, Stevie Lee, great episode.
Much love to Bob Baloo and ourand our stories inside the Man
Cave brother, Mike Adams, agreat former Texas great
receiver, Mike Adams, on theroad, always making time for us.
Um, tell me something good, mybrother, as we are beginning one
of the best weeks of that welook forward to.
A lot of people do in collegefootball.

SPEAKER_05 (01:01:38):
This is one of the best weeks of college football.
It's Texas OU week, and mindyou, I said Texas OU week, not
OU Texas Week.
That's what they say north ofthe river.
Yeah, I know, man.
Uh, it's it's Texas OU Week,man.
Um, you know, last week was notfun to watch.
Um what's so good about this iswe get a chance to to write the

(01:02:00):
ship, uh, the opportunity towrite right the ship, man.

SPEAKER_02 (01:02:04):
So I agree.

SPEAKER_05 (01:02:05):
Stay locked in with the Longhorns, man.
It was really close.
It's we're still in these games,guys.
Uh, so just be positive.
Uh, it's not it's it's not asbad as we think it is.
Um, so uh it's gonna be fun thisweek.
So just hang in there, man.
Something good is we got we gotOU in Dallas, and that's always

(01:02:27):
fun.
Go get you a Fletcher's corndog.

SPEAKER_11 (01:02:29):
Fletcher's corndog, and there's so many different
foods, but I'll tell you whatsomething good, man, about this
game.
I kind of alluded to it a lot,but I I just to encapsulate it
to make it short.
I feel like this is a blessing.
I grew up here hating Oklahoma,everything about Oklahoma, and

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my second to last job in mymedia career.
I got a job in Oklahoma Citybefore I finished up at K View
here in Austin, and that wassome six great years of my life.
Not only did I get to know theOU program up close and
personal, and Oklahoma State,but I got to see this rivalry

(01:03:11):
from both sides, yeah, coveringboth teams and how different
they are, but yet the same.
And those connections willremain until I die.
So I've I I have been blessed tosee this rivalry uh from both
sides of the Red River, and I amforever grateful for the great
city of Shreeport and HartgroveRoosping and my college, all my
modern hometown or town thatbeing Nacadosis, Texas, in

(01:03:34):
behind the pine curtain.
The red brick streets arebeautiful, it reeks of Texas
history and to my hometown, thegreat uh city of Austin, Texas,
the beautiful place in the TexasHill Country.
And to all of you who watchthis, thank you so much for
following us and liking andsharing on our social media, and
uh to everyone who has been apart of this, to Bob Baloo and

(01:03:56):
his beautiful family.
He is a girl dad, a proud girldad, Mike Adams, a proud boy
dad, he and his better half andthat beautiful family, and to
all the Texas high schoolcoaches, to all of everybody in
the football coaching and thefootball fandom fraternity.
Much love to you and to whatevercommunity you involved with.
We love you, and for everybodythat has taken the time to put

(01:04:20):
up with us, awesome.
Continue to follow us, and tothe OG Man K boys, that being
Harbaugh Horge, Big Mike, andNico Small, what do we tell 'em?

unknown (01:04:33):
Steve.

SPEAKER_05 (01:04:35):
We out.
I'm in my car and a kid.