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SPEAKER_03 (02:32):
What is that sound
you hear?
What do you hear?
What do you mean?
I don't hear any of thosecowbells ringing anymore from
Star Vegas.
SPEAKER_07 (02:44):
I hear you, man.
But hey, they were loud outthere, man.
I I watched it on TV and I feltit through the TV, man.
And they were effective, man.
So we had a couple of uh falsestarts because of us.
SPEAKER_03 (02:54):
Hey, Mississippi
State has great fans, football,
baseball, and they make it uhreally good atmosphere.
And that was it's scary, good.
That was an AI produced um videomusic.
I mean, you saw the random shotof Tom Brady.
He he didn't play forMississippi State or Texas, but
that that was well done.
(03:15):
Well done.
Um and we're gonna learn a lotabout what what this does for
Texas.
The tough month of October.
Um, and we're gonna dive into itas we bring on the playmaker.
And if you weren't aware, I'mSean Clinch, the co-host of Pass
Russell, Stevie Lee.
That is Stevie Lee right there.
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Stevie, sum up in a few wordsyour thoughts as you've had two
sleeps past Saturday night.
Sum up what happened.
SPEAKER_07 (03:48):
Um one uh great
phenomenal fourth quarter.
Um, still think that we nevershould have been in that
situation that we were in, butwe found ourselves there.
It was grit and conditioning andstrength that's got us out of
that.
Um out of that uh out of that uhtown with a win.
(04:08):
Out of that stadium with a win.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (04:10):
It's a good win, and
for all those haters out there,
regardless of what team you'refor, I I hate the thing, oh, the
cupcakes, you play the cupcakeuh no longer.
Hey, the month of October istough for any team when you
don't play at home, and themonth of November is tough for
everybody because you're chasingsomething.
(04:31):
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SPEAKER_03 (05:38):
Know who's on your
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And I think that we just need toget going.
Are you ready?
Let's ride.
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SPEAKER_13 (06:16):
So when I coached,
he ripped me before the fun
return before that.
I cut it up.
He was like, nah, take the ballto the wall.
And all I did was trust him.
I took the ball to the wall andit just opened up for me.
SPEAKER_03 (06:27):
Ryan Nibblet, he's
found his niche, he's found his
spot.
I love seeing players developand find their role on the team.
That is two big ones here in inthe past few weeks, and to get
through that month of October.
For him, what does he mean inyour mind, Stevie, moving
forward in this tough month ofNovember that's about to start
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for the Longhorns?
SPEAKER_07 (06:50):
Hey man, he got my
vote for um special teams player
of the year already.
So um, but no, it he every timehe uh touches the ball as a punt
returner, it can magic canhappen.
So I love his uh fieldawareness, uh, how quick his
feet are.
He was stopping and going.
And uh as soon as he hit thesideline, you can't stop him.
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So um he he is definitely aspark for this team when he
touches the ball.
And I'm uh I can't wait to seeat the end of the year what his
final numbers will be because wehad some phenomenal punt
returners back in our day, youknow, too.
So but uh this kid uh is comingup clutch when Texas need him.
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So um I think that uh Sark needsto also find another way of
getting the ball in his hand.
He just has great fieldawareness in the open field.
SPEAKER_03 (07:41):
He's got Mike Adams
speed.
Yeah, no question, maybe alittle more, but uh think about
this.
You know how ESPN has theirpercentages during a game of a
chance of winning late thirdquarter, and before the nibblet
magic occurred and start Bill,uh Texas had 1.4 chance to win.
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To win.
SPEAKER_07 (08:03):
Yeah, yeah, you
know, so I can get on my excuse
me, I can get on my soapboxabout um analytics and what the
computers tell you to do andthings like that.
The computer probably told uhMississippi State to go forward
on fourth and three, and theydid and gave us the ball right
back.
The computer was wrong, right?
(08:25):
And um, so you know, don'tsometimes you just need to see
what's in front of your eyes.
We had momentum, and I I Idoubted it.
Like I was upset where we were,but I knew that we could come
back just because the heart andsoul of this football team, they
worked really hard with ToryBecton, and I know that they are
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conditioned.
For me, we won that game off ofconditioning because we we were
still fresh and strong.
They were tired of being beat upon all game, all game, and then
they just folded like like thatsong said, folded like a Sunday
shirt, like a Sunday dressshirt.
They folded for short.
SPEAKER_03 (09:06):
That's what
happened, and you know, I can't
wait, as always, every week, tohear from the playmaker83
himself.
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(09:44):
How are you doing, brother?
SPEAKER_15 (09:45):
Doing good,
gentlemen.
What's going on?
SPEAKER_03 (09:47):
Man, we're just uh
marinating on so much.
Longhorns and Sark had theirpress conference today, and you
know, everyone is still talkingabout uh what what occurred and
obviously the big win, butthere's so many things to talk
about with you, but we gottabring this up.
It's just Sark addressing therumors.
(10:10):
We we addressed it on ourInstagram live yesterday, but I
guess we'll before you I I lovedwhat you said yesterday, and in
case people uh missed on missedout on that, this is Sark after
um the Mississippi State winaddressing the rumors um about
him possibly going to the NFLafter the season.
SPEAKER_10 (10:34):
It really pisses me
off that one person can make a
report that in turn the entiremedia sports world runs with as
faction.
To the point of my agency and myagents have to put a statement
out that they never have done.
Historically, CAA, Jimmy Sexton,and Ed Manowitz have never done
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that.
But I had to do that to protectmy locker room and my team.
SPEAKER_03 (11:03):
All right, so so
many people, we've all seen it
and many times, but it may I Ihate to that it's kind of still
there.
What's your feeling on that?
And then Diana Rossini, she's arespected journalist, guys, and
I have a problem.
She's not going to be doinganything, releasing any
(11:24):
information report withoutreally verifying through her
sources.
SPEAKER_15 (11:31):
That's that's
correct, man.
I mean, I've seen her andwatched her on ESPN throughout
the years, and um usually whenshe puts things out there,
there's there's some some somesome truth to it on some kind of
level.
While it may not be a hundredpercent true, I mean, you know,
there there could be someconversations and maybe it was
(11:52):
just an early leakage and thatwas somewhat of an accident, but
you said it, uh the fact thatit's still kind of out there,
uh, you know, where there'ssmoke, there's fire.
SPEAKER_03 (12:02):
Right.
Stevie, what what's yourthoughts?
Man, well now that we had wetalked about it yesterday, it is
kind of old news now, and Irespect what Sark said and how
he handled it, and he jumped onit.
Do you still think that there'ssomething there?
SPEAKER_07 (12:20):
Well, um, yeah, I
think it's but I'm not sure it's
um enough there, I guess shouldI say.
Okay, right?
Like um yeah, one person said itat the bottom of her article and
took that little piece rightthere and put it into a headline
on uh on X.
Um I I there there may besomething there, and then but
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Sark is right, only one personreported this.
If it's um if it was more there,then a lot of outlets would have
picked other outlets would havepicked it up.
So that's a good point.
That's a good point.
So yeah, it is it may besomething there.
Let's finish out this season andsee what happens, you know.
So we'll see.
SPEAKER_15 (13:05):
Yeah, and and and
honestly, I mean, came out, he
put out a statement.
Yep, he I mean, I I don't knowexactly if he said there's
nothing there or it isn't true,but the fact that he talked
about it, and you know, I'm I'mgonna take him at his word.
I mean, you know, until he comesout and says, Yes, this is what
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happened, and you know, I'm justgonna bear on the side of is one
person's reporting, and I'm justgonna leave it at that.
SPEAKER_03 (13:34):
Yeah, and and I'll
I'll end it with this.
I will say this.
What she here's what I think hashappened.
She is in, has goodrelationships with a lot of just
reporters.
You you do your due diligence uhwith NFL front office
executives.
I guarantee you, without being100%, I'm almost positive that
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she had conversations with thefront office of uh the NFL or
maybe the Tennessee Titans, andthat was relayed to her.
And doing your due diligencemeans you call the individual
involved their people, meaningSark's agent or agency.
So maybe something was leaked onboth sides.
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That's just where I think is agood stopping point because uh
we're never going to find outmore until the timing is right.
Hey, the big news, and we kindof knew it.
It was uh it looked awful.
Arch Tough has taken well over60, 70 plus hits this year um on
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that long run late in the game.
Uh he is in fact in concussionprotocol.
Stevie, um I don't know.
We don't know how long he couldhe could play against Vanderbilt
Saturday, but uh from what I'mseeing, what I'm thinking, you
might as well have a plan B.
(15:02):
Ready to go.
SPEAKER_07 (15:04):
Yeah, I think that
um, yeah, I think you know,
concussion protocol, you don'tyou don't play with your head,
your brain.
You don't only get one and umand they can't repair it either.
So um I think that he should umreally take care of himself, go
through this protocol, and youknow, let's just see what
Caldwell can do.
Yeah, um, and now he has a wholeweek to prepare uh and get into
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the game plan, and Sark can puta game plan together for his
skill set, and uh and let's seewhat what what we got.
But you know Vanderbilt is no uhno no slouch though.
We gotta actually come with it.
SPEAKER_03 (15:41):
Yeah.
Mike, did you if I rememberright, you you went you were in
concussion protocol once whileyou were at Texas, right?
SPEAKER_15 (15:50):
Well, they didn't
even have concussion protocol.
I was just about to say that I Ido remember getting a concussion
twice, once in the game, again,my freshman year against TCU.
Dole for a pass.
I didn't get hit, but I dove fora ball and my my chin hit the
ground.
I came to the sideline.
Man, I didn't know where I was,didn't know where I was.
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I just remember talking to ourold time, you know, uh trainer
Spanky.
And he he he he said, You okay?
I was like, Man, I don't knowwhere am I, and that's when he
it hit him that I might beconcussed, and he gave me three
words to remember.
I just remember they were likefog, fox, and and wheelbarrow.
But I didn't remember them fiveminutes later when he came back
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to me, you know.
So I guess that was the theprotocol back in the day, man.
And I went back in the gameafter about 20 minutes, but I do
know I was foggy on a puntreturn.
I didn't know I I couldn'treally feel myself, it was kind
of deemed as a mild concussion.
But yeah, today, man, likeStevie said, they're not gonna
play around with that.
I I mean there's gonna be someserious steps that Arch is gonna
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have to clear in order to getback on the field before he can
even practice.
And we really don't even knowhow serious it was, only they
know.
So until we really get some ofthat information, man, and I
hope it wasn't severe, butwatching Arch get up and needing
help and kind of staggering ashe was walking to the sideline,
I'm on the side of uh you know,smart money that he probably
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doesn't play this week.
SPEAKER_03 (17:22):
That's I would put
money on that.
He sits this one out.
Um, and that leads us to this.
And uh go to our Twitter page.
I've got a graphic with thatpertaining to the comeback from
early on in the fourth quarter,all the way through over time.
What transpired the defensiveand offensive numbers, go to at
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stories man cave and ourInstagram page and Facebook
page, and you'll see thatgraphic that I'm talking about,
something to have a conversationabout.
But that leads us to what bothof you have mentioned the the
the QB2 legend now, uh Caldwell.
He's getting his opportunity.
And after the game, man, he'stalking about obviously what
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arch means to that QB bro.
SPEAKER_01 (18:11):
He played a freak he
played his freaking tail off
tonight, y'all.
So I mean, all adversity he goesthrough.
I mean, getting banged up, andhe comes to work every day, and
then he goes out there and uhleads us into it and overtime,
and then you know, like I I toldhim downstairs, like I wish he
was what were you thinking whenwe went out there?
I was like, Man, I wish youcould have finished it after
what you played.
But um, I told him, you know, Ihad his back, and but we have an
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awesome relationship.
Everybody, all the Qs in the Qroom have a great relationship.
We have a super fun room, and wejust push each other.
SPEAKER_03 (18:42):
All right, Stevie.
We've had some in a lot ofprograms experiences.
The backup quarterbacks may bethe best position to play.
I know we've seen like ChanceMock come in for uh Vincent and
beat Tack.
Uh, and we've seen it in otheryears.
But what he did, I know it wasjust one pass, but man, he has a
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great opportunity, assuming Archisn't going to play Saturday.
SPEAKER_07 (19:09):
So huge opportunity
for him, and he just needs to
seize his opportunity.
Um this could be really, reallygood for him.
And then in this new footballera, right?
It could be really good for himthat he can turn over and be QB1
at the University of Texas, buthe can also get some good film
out there for his future.
(19:29):
Um, you know, so he can I hateto say it, but he's he's also
auditioning for another role tobe QB1 somewhere else.
Yeah, you know.
So um this is a whole new wild,wild west of college football,
man.
And I and I don't know if I likeand entirely like it because I
don't like what I just said, butit's it's just a reality right
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now.
SPEAKER_03 (19:52):
Yeah, Mike, what not
to go back in history, but when
you when you we've seen him nowin two significant moments where
Caldwell has come into games,right, and he doesn't look he
just looks like he's been therebefore.
Because he has, as a starter inother programs.
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I mean, from your trained eye,what do you see in this kid?
SPEAKER_15 (20:18):
Well, I mean,
experience, true experience,
real experience.
Like he's been a starter.
I mean, at a good program ofTroy.
I mean, I mean, so he he, youknow, there's reason Sark and
Bunch went out and got him inthe offseason.
I do believe he's a fifth-yearguy, so I'm not sure he has any
more eligibility left unless hegoes the grant grad transfer
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route.
But um, like Stevie said, man, Imean, he's he's auditioning
either for the NFL orpotentially a grad transfer
opportunity.
And uh the dude, you can tellhe's calm.
I mean, I I like the interviewthat that that we saw.
I mean, he he seems to come inand you know, under two
stressful situations, you know,in which he came in against
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Florida and this situation hereto where he's pretty much cold
the entire game and had to comein and make a throw.
One of those being uh, you know,he he checked the route to the
receiver to uh Mosley and puthim on a kind of a fade ball,
and just to kind of have thatwherewithal, he's obviously
savvy and he's not afraid.
So yeah, he has some greatattributes that you'd want to
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see in QB1, for sure, QB two,which the guy is has been a QB1
before.
So I I think uh it's a bonus forTexas man, and you know, he has
a chance to really put himselfdown in uh you know long horn
lore because honestly, we don'tknow when Arch is coming back.
I I mean his situation may be sobad, you know, Caldwell might
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have to go out there and go playbetween the hedges next week, or
even Arkansas two weeks fromnow.
So we really don't know thesituation.
We're gonna find out here,though, pretty soon.
SPEAKER_03 (21:55):
Yeah, that this is a
very, very tough month.
Three of the four opponents arein the top nine, beginning with
Vanderbilt.
This this game right here, Imean, people can criticize and
and and and and downplayVanderbilt, but these guys are
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legit playoff contenders.
I mean, obviously, number ninewhen you're entering the month
of November is significant, butit it all begins with that
quarterback and and Diego Pavia.
He was asked recently about doeshe honestly believe that he can
win the Heisman?
We can all we can all allpredict what he said, and this
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is what he how he responded.
SPEAKER_08 (22:43):
First off, hell
yeah, believe it.
You know, um, we just got tokeep winning football games.
And you know, I feel like theschedule that we got, obviously,
it's a difficult scheduleplaying in the SEC.
You'll play a lot of rankedteams.
SPEAKER_03 (22:56):
All right.
He he's high's been hype.
Are you guys buying it?
SPEAKER_07 (23:01):
Am I buying it?
Yeah, yeah, I think I am.
Uh he's good.
He's a good football player.
Yeah, he's a good footballplayer, and uh obviously he got
some swag at the up there on thepodium.
His hat said two turn.
I love that.
Uh, but no, he got some swag.
He he's marketable.
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Um and he's playing football ata very high level right now.
He has Vanderbilt.
Vanderbilt, historically, notgood, just a bunch of smart kids
trying to play football.
Yeah, now they're a bunch offootball players that are smart
now.
So uh, so it's it that they theygot something, they got
something going on up there, andum, you know, I'm a long horn,
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I'm gonna always be a long horn.
We gotta come in here and playthis game this week against
Vandy.
Against Vandy.
We gotta we gotta come out witha good scheme, we gotta come out
on fire and quick because theseguys are they're good, they're
good, bottom line.
SPEAKER_03 (24:01):
Hey, Mike, look at
this is for you.
This is these are Paviousnumbers.
I mean, he has over 2100combined yards, that's rushing,
throwing, and 20 combined TDs.
That's that's deserving to be aHeisman finalist at this point
in the season.
SPEAKER_15 (24:19):
Well, and honestly,
I was just sitting here thinking
his numbers really aren't whatwe've seen from Heisman
Candidates before.
Like he he's not a 3,000, 4,000yard passer, like we've seen
some Heisman winners do you know40 or 50 touchdowns.
Like he doesn't have dual threatnumbers like a Cam Newton per
se, right?
Right, or even a Johnny Manzel.
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But here's where I think, likehe said, if they keep winning,
and clearly he means more tothat team.
You know, his presence alone andhis playmaking ability means
more than the actual numbers.
We he could be the first guy towin the Heisman to where his
numbers don't really stack up towhat we've seen in the past
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historically.
I mean, I mean, there's no nodenying his importance to his
football team.
Come on, man, we're talkingabout Vanderbilt, one of the
worst uh teams historically incollege football that we've
seen, along with Indiana.
And he's got those guys in thenational championship
conversation.
No, that that's uh I mean, hehe's changed the entire culture
of what we thought of Vanderbiltfootball or what we knew
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Vanderbilt football was in thepast.
I mean, I mean, I mean, it'sPavio Mania.
I mean, I mean, the guy, youknow, he he's got it turned down
there like his hat said.
I mean, completely different.
I mean, it is Nashville isturned upside down, it's not
just known for for musicanymore.
I mean, I mean, I mean, it'sit's known for Pavio Mania now,
and you've become a culturalphenomenon, man, and that kind
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of stuff alone warrants himbeing in the conversation.
He keeps winning, he's probablygonna be in New York.
SPEAKER_03 (25:52):
Yeah, that's what I
say.
And if it'll now, if somethingwere to happen to him, he gets
injured, the same thing willhappen to Vanderbilt that
happened to Florida State twoyears ago.
SPEAKER_15 (26:02):
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (26:04):
The committee knows
that if he goes down, the
chances are greater against themcontinuing.
Would you be the same teamwithout Diego Pavia?
And the answer is no.
But here's one fact this is a,in my opinion, a CFP at large
elimination game, especially forTexas.
SPEAKER_15 (26:27):
I think so.
I think so.
I mean, we're we're sitting onthe you know, we're not even
ranked top 20.
We're we're ranked 22nd, and ifwe lose this game, that
essentially, you know, couldpossibly put us out of the top
25.
And even if we were to go on andwin a few games down the road, I
mean, we might get close togetting back up there, but it
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it'd be very, very difficult.
Uh, you know, Vanderbilt, Imean, they're on the fringe.
I mean, they're they're in thetop 12, you know, sitting at
eight or nine, I believe, numbernine.
Yeah, but um if we beat them,you know, that that's that's
huge for us, and you know,possibly knocks them down a pick
because they they have a coupleteams that are behind them,
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right on their heels, and theystill gotta play Tennessee.
So, so they're they're not outof the woodworks by any means.
SPEAKER_03 (27:16):
Stevie, for both of
you, I I know it's hard for both
of you to admit this, but uh,I've got to say it, man.
These are I just took two clips,but Texas AM, and you guys both
know you played on teams whichespecially 1996 for you, Mike.
When you start winning, it'slike an avalanche, it just gets
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the momentum going.
And I know you can edit thingsto make them fit your narrative.
This is not an narrative whatthey did in Baton Rouge.
SPEAKER_02 (27:48):
Read rolling out,
and one of the lockdown fields
takes off.
SPEAKER_03 (28:08):
All right, I I have
criticized AM's defense, and I'm
starting to see some improvementto go along with that.
Marcel Reed, potent offense,Stevie.
I mean, are you are you seeingthe same, or are you still
questioning maybe AM's defenseto carry them through?
SPEAKER_07 (28:25):
No, I'm not.
AM played a uh a complete gamethis this week and got the coach
fired.
Um I I I I hate to say it, but Ilike what they're doing on the
field, man.
Uh, they ran um you know damnnear a hundred drunk Cajuns out
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of their own stadium, you know.
I I I don't like to uh say nicethings about AM because I'm a
longhorn, but you gotta hat offto them, man.
They they played a completegame.
That defense is it's prettygood.
It's it's pretty good.
And um it's um the the numbersthat they're putting up, uh I
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had it up right now and and Ithey just went away.
But anyway, but that they'rejust they're it's a good
football team all around rightnow.
They're good.
SPEAKER_03 (29:16):
Hey, Mike, you'll
like this.
So Elko, yeah, obviously he's aball coach.
He he's he's he's strictlyfootball, he's not this guy
who's going to go around.
He he prefers just to coachball.
Uh a media member asked him aquestion and said that uh under
Brian Kelly, um that they were20 and one at night in Baton
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Rouge, and Elko had to correctthem.
SPEAKER_14 (29:44):
They're 20 and one
under BK in 1920, so it's hard
to win here, obviously.
2.
22 now.
I apologize.
SPEAKER_03 (29:52):
This is the man
knows the stats, and he he he
that was his little not shade,but he definitely knew what he
was.
They were going up against andand man, I haven't seen AM play
that way on the road in a longtime.
SPEAKER_15 (30:07):
Man, I mean that win
is uh this past Saturday night
is probably even more impressivethan the win they had at Notre
Dame earlier in the year, whichis which is a tough place to
play.
I mean, lost there myselfin '95.
Uh I mean and them, man, and andyou know, prior to us talking
about them, I mean, uh watchingthe clip, guys are dancing,
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having fun.
Honestly, I think they've gottenback to this point.
They've made some philosophicalchanges.
And really, what I mean by thatis because they had a uh a
previous quarterback there whowho they thought was better than
what he really was.
And Marshall Reed, they theythey finally gave him the
opportunity to kind of show hisstuff.
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And you know, really sinceJohnny Manzel, they probably
haven't had another quarterbackthere like him with similar type
of skill set.
And look where it's gotten.
When they've made their decisionup, they've made their mind up
that they're gonna have you knowcertain types of players that
bring a certain type of skillset and let those guys actually
go out there and play.
Look at them, they're top three.
(31:10):
In some people's eyes, they'rethe best team in the country.
The defense has always beengood.
I mean, I think they've gottenback to the wrecking crew years,
and they're playing with a lotof swag right now, man.
A very uh quiet confidence.
I don't even hear their fans,they're they're there's a quiet
even talking.
It's like business straightahead.
They're not gonna jinx thisthing.
(31:32):
You know, they they pretty muchwrapped up a playoff spot, man.
I mean, they got one of the bestschedules in the country.
Uh and them looks good.
I mean, I I can't even hate atthis point.
They they look good, you know.
I I look forward to seeing thoseguys Thanksgiving weekend
because I because I do thinkthat is a hurdle that they need
to clear.
(31:52):
I remember the AM team last yearfor Thanksgiving, and man, they
didn't look so hot, and wedominated them.
So, so that's that's what'sstuck in the back of my head,
and that's gonna be there whenthey come in to Austin.
SPEAKER_03 (32:04):
Hey, and and you
guys both mentioned it when you
help escort another coach out oftown.
I mean, there's video of BrianKelly at 5 a.m.
loading up his car outside ofthe LSU football complex, yeah,
from his office.
Stevie, I I have never we'vementioned this.
I can't believe the trend ishere.
(32:26):
What do you make of this?
Because they they owe him 54million dollars.
He will make that, but I'll gothrough the list again:
Arkansas, Colorado State,Florida, Oklahoma State, Oregon
State, Penn State, VirginiaTech, UAB, UCLA, and now LSU
with these mid-season.
(32:47):
I maybe I'm old school, but oryou can say I want to help
recruiting, but also letting goof your coach mid-season that
can hurt recruiting.
Am I wrong?
SPEAKER_07 (33:01):
Um, yeah, it it's
both ways, man.
You can you can help it by therumors saying that uh the one
coach is coming.
I don't know, man.
It's it is tough trying tofinish out a season with a new
new coach.
I I've never gone through that.
Um may have you ever gonethrough a coaching change like
that?
(33:21):
Nah, no, my coach was with methe whole time I was in college.
Yeah, me too.
So I only coaching change I wentthrough was um we got rid of
Bull Reese and uh hired uh restin peace.
Yeah, rest in peace, bull reese,and then we hired uh Greg
Robinson.
Rest in peace, Greg Robinson.
So um uh and Greg came in anddid a great job.
(33:43):
Him and Dick Tomey came intogether.
Rest in peace, Dick Tomey.
Damn man.
Uh so so yeah, so it was uhthat's my coaching change, but
it was a it was I loved CoachReese still to this day.
Uh, but it was a good change forour uh program uh defensively.
But changing in the middle ofthe season like that, I've never
(34:05):
gone through that.
I can't imagine what those thatlocker room is going through,
but you know, something did haveto change.
Brian Kelly, he um he neverlooked inward, uh and so he
always you know almost blamedother people for his downfalls,
you know.
So I think that rubbed a lot ofpeople the wrong way.
SPEAKER_03 (34:28):
Very sensitive, very
sensitive.
Yeah, yeah, he is.
So we're gonna reel it in backat home, and then we'll end uh
with the part with Mike on thePlaymaker 83 analysis, uh, with
the subject you guys love totalk about.
Uh back here at home, one of thebest to ever play quarterback in
(34:49):
the history of football finallyhad his jersey number retired at
his high school alma mater.
SPEAKER_12 (35:02):
I've always said
this, and it's the absolute
truth.
One of my greatest bigachievements, memories is
winning the state championshiplike here, but still high
school.
SPEAKER_04 (35:27):
It still feels like
game day for me.
SPEAKER_03 (35:30):
That's pretty cool.
But like Travis put a whippingon Westlake uh right after that.
Um, but Westlake's still a greatprogram, great team.
Um, it just blows my I don'tknow, Mike.
I don't know.
You you were more in tune withthe high school side.
Why do you I just why do youthink it took so long?
(35:51):
It just seems like I don't know.
I don't know, I don't know aboutthe dynamics behind all that.
SPEAKER_15 (35:56):
Man, it could be a
number of reasons.
It it could be you know, thecoach, whoever it is at the
time, you know, making somethinglike that happen.
I mean, obviously the player hasno control over that, but but
the coach, if he's you knowcognizant of you know, such
players like a Drew Brees orsomebody like that, I mean, they
they can make that happen.
(36:17):
I mean, I I say it jokejokingly, I'm waiting on my
coach to retire my high schooljersey, kind of dragging their
feet on that deal.
But but it's it's just stufflike that that's in play.
I mean, and Drew has been offand and you know, doing some
things, and it could be a timingissue.
They they may have wanted to doit a long time ago, but um, I'm
(36:40):
glad it was able to happen forhim.
Man, I mean, he's a greatplayer, obviously, great
quarterback, Hall of Famer, andyou know, one of the guys that
my my son looks up to as aquarterback, and you know, being
from Austin.
I mean, I mean, Drew really kindof set the stage for a lot of
quarterbacks out of Austin, man.
Um, you know, getting theopportunity around the country,
go play football and and and goto the NFL.
SPEAKER_03 (37:00):
I mean, a long list
of Westlake quarterbacks.
You go back, you got I'm justnaming a few.
Obviously, Sam Ellinger, NickFoles.
Uh there's so many greatquarterbacks, and it's a legacy.
And the same thing at LakeTravis, but yeah, you're right.
Breeze got it started, and therehave been some good
quarterbacks.
The the the the pedigree, Imean, Todd Dodge, uh, Derek
(37:23):
Long, uh Coach Schrader, uh allthose coaches.
They is something in the DNAthere.
It creates so shout out toWestlake, Drew Breeze, and his
family, his dad chip.
Uh, he's a he's a character, butuh it's it's just it's amazing
to see it.
And and I don't I want to knowwhat he's doing.
(37:44):
He hasn't aged at all.
At all.
Guy.
Hey, we can't let MA get out.
A lot of people don't know this.
He's a big Yankees fan, and andStevie loves baseball too.
But we're in the World Series.
Uh the Dodgers Blue Jays.
We don't have to say BJ's, butI'll do it for us.
Uh it's just uh shorter becauseof space, but man, you you've
(38:10):
got the Dodgers manager talkingsmack about the logistics of
having to travel to Torontoalready.
What do you guys?
What's your take on this?
Are we going seven, five, six,five?
What are we doing here?
SPEAKER_15 (38:26):
I think it's very
important for the Blue Jays to
take game three tonight becauseuh the Dodgers, and I'm not sure
of the format.
I don't know if they're twothree two or two two one one
one.
You know, not sure the format,but if it's two three, two, you
know, the Dodgers being home thenext three games, man.
(38:47):
The Blue Jays better, theybetter win this game right here,
or it could get ugly.
SPEAKER_07 (38:53):
Yeah, I uh yeah, I
wanted the Dodgers to win, man.
To win it all.
I'm just a I'm a fan of MagicJohnson and and the group that
uh that purchased the Dodgers,but uh uh I don't know, man.
The Blue Jays just look they'reswinging the bat and they're
they're making plays, man.
So I don't know.
unknown (39:11):
I don't know.
SPEAKER_15 (39:12):
It's gonna be a
tough uh battle.
And and honestly, man, I'm kindof you know, uh, you know, I'm a
Drake fan.
I I do I want Toronto to win itjust just because I'm a Drake
fan, but but I'm also anationalist.
You know, I want the uh Dodgersto win it.
Because I, you know, and I usedto live in Canada and you know
play play Canadian football, soI'm well aware of the uh
(39:34):
national anthem up there, butand they're pretty close to
being Americans, but yeah, Idon't know, man.
We we keep that title on on soilhere, and and if the Yankees
can't win the East and win thethe uh you know American League,
then I'd rather somebody elsewin the the World Series or the
National League.
I don't want Toronto to win itlike that.
So I guess we'll go go Dodgers.
SPEAKER_03 (39:59):
You know what?
We'll go for the traditionals.
Toronto, man, they've had a goodprogram, but are they closer to
being Americans or are we closeuh closer to being Canadians?
SPEAKER_07 (40:09):
That's a great
question, Sean.
SPEAKER_15 (40:12):
I'm gonna say
they're close to being
Americans.
Man, Canada's a beautiful placeto live, first of all.
Yeah, but that's only if you'reliving in Toronto, which is
comparable to New York, oryou're living in Vancouver,
which is where I live, and theycompare that to LA.
(40:34):
I mean, those two cities, man.
I mean, they're smaller thanthose two major American cities,
but they're they're prettylarge.
I mean, I know Vancouver, wehave three, four million people,
and I believe Toronto is aboutthe same, but big cities, man.
You know, they're they'remetropolis type of cities and
hustle and bustle.
Those are great places to be.
SPEAKER_03 (40:52):
Man, I love it.
I love it, man.
The fact that you guys are allover this baseball.
I love the game, but I'll say itagain, man.
I I have lost.
I'm a I'm a sore loser.
I love my Rangers, man.
And I was riding sky high whenthey won the World Series a
couple years ago, and they'reback to square one.
But hey, for a great game, I'mall for it.
(41:13):
I hope the viewership continuesto rise.
I mean, you got two good sizedmarkets.
I mean, LA is one of the topthree markets in the in the
country, right?
SPEAKER_15 (41:23):
Right, right.
Lots of love, playmaker.
Yes, sir.
All week, all the time, man.
Appreciate you guys.
Another great episode, and a lotof great football on this
weekend, man.
So just you know, I think a lotof guys survive the uh the GU
team this week.
That's a good way of putting it.
Yeah, great way of putting it.
(41:48):
You know, that Florida Statejob, that's still kind of out
there.
They said they're gonna waituntil the end of the year.
So yeah, man, a lot of bluechip, a lot of um blue blood
programs, uh making changesearly.
SPEAKER_03 (42:02):
This is this is the
new norm that I believe is
taking place here.
This is we gotta we gotta getused to it.
SPEAKER_15 (42:09):
Yeah, no doubt.
SPEAKER_03 (42:11):
So, man, it's a uh
it doesn't matter what I think.
I'm just showing my age that I'mtrying to be resistant to it,
but uh embrace change, embracechange, embrace change, it's a
constant um can't be in thatkind of class, yeah.
Exactly.
SPEAKER_15 (42:29):
The the power of
people don't even think I knew
words like that.
That big no hey, I know yourvocabulary is exactly I did
graduate from the University ofTexas now, so that's you know,
change change happens, and andand you're you're uh one of the
leaders of education in thegreat state of Texas, no doubt
about it.
SPEAKER_03 (42:48):
Hey, the college
football this week's post week
nine, power 12 and four on theoutside.
You can find that on our socialmedia platforms as well.
And I'll just make it before welet him go.
There's a new addition to it.
It's his son's current program.
Hopefully, they stay there.
Louisville is in it on the fouron the outside.
SPEAKER_15 (43:09):
They're climbing,
they're climbing.
SPEAKER_03 (43:12):
Let's go, cards.
Let's go, Mike Adams.
Let's go, Adams family.
Go horns, go cards.
SPEAKER_15 (43:17):
We gotta throw that
L up.
SPEAKER_03 (43:19):
Yeah, hey brother,
we'll be in touch.
We appreciate you always.
Yes, sir, man.
Have a good week.
We'll be in touch soon.
We'll see you, my man.
Welcome, baby.
We're gonna hear from um anotherthe kicker for the long horns as
he promotes shows us how he'sgonna promote our NIL partner,
(43:40):
Hargrove Roof.
SPEAKER_11 (43:45):
So, what I like to
do is I like to get on the roof.
And then I like to roofing.
SPEAKER_03 (43:57):
Austin, Texas is
changing every day, but one
constant is Dirty Martin's placeon the water.
Dirty's recently celebrated 98years young, and the future is
stock.
And this space in the back isopen to host any event, personal
or business related.
SPEAKER_00 (44:15):
Hey everyone, it's
Daniel here at uh Dirty Martins.
We're in the Burn Orange Room.
We are currently uh booking alot of parties back here.
As you can see, we got acapacity for about 90 people,
but we are excited to host uhany party that you might want to
bring.
SPEAKER_03 (44:28):
Give Daniel Young a
call at Dirty's to reserve this
space for any event that you canthink of.
SPEAKER_14 (44:54):
And he breaks it
right down the middle.
Crunch them, and he avoids thecontact with twin things on his
feet, and then he turns into abannering ram down inside the
10-yard line.
SPEAKER_02 (45:06):
Go to the draw.
Look at those offensive linemenout there in front of me.
Now, watch this looks forcontact here, punches out,
dishes off again, looks forcontact again, just a bull and a
Johnnacall.
SPEAKER_03 (45:19):
Um Stevie Lee,
that's Caleb Crenshaw, running
back at Anderson High School,started out at LBJ.
He only needs 255 yards rushingin the final two games plus the
playoffs to surpass CedricAlexander as the AISD rushing
king.
SPEAKER_07 (45:39):
He keeps running
like that.
Looks like he'll get it.
SPEAKER_03 (45:41):
Oh my god.
You guys physical, he's gotsize, man, and not many offers
at all.
That's but that that surely willchange.
So, hey, shout out to CalebCrenshaw and the Anderson
Trojans, who are undefeatedstill.
And hey, our ATX high schoolfootball team of the week for
week nine.
The Blanco Panthers.
(46:02):
They gave Lexington their firstloss of the season.
Blanco is the leader of thatsmall, smaller classification
district, uh, and they run thattraditional slot T.
Kent Walker, who used to be theLiberty Hill coach, is now the
first-year head coach at Blanco.
So, congratulations to theBlanco community.
Hey, our TikToking the Man Cave.
(46:25):
It is a former Alabama softballplayer, turned comedian and
singer.
She kind of gives us an idea ofwhat it was like in the dugout
when uh she was visiting BatonRouge as a player against the
LSU Tigers.
SPEAKER_09 (46:42):
Went down to Baton
Rouge, my sophomore year.
I'm playing shortstop, and mycoach has a rule: you are not
allowed to interact with thefans.
Don't look at them, don't smileat them, don't wave at them.
And all game long, I had seenthis little boy wearing an LSU
shirt up on the heel.
Number 15, you're my favoriteplayer.
(47:02):
And he had done this the second,the third, the fourth, the
fifth, the sixth end, and thenfinally on the 17th.
And I'm like, you know what?
Look over at coach.
He's not looking.
I wave at the little boy.
He goes, fuck you, number 15.
SPEAKER_07 (47:18):
That sounds about
right, man.
That's LSG.
And then that's why it wasamazing to see that AM ran those
drunk Asians out of thatstadium.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (47:28):
That's wild.
Wow.
Wow.
SPEAKER_07 (47:31):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (47:31):
Hey, Danae Hayes is
her name, comedian, singer,
former Alabama softball player.
She's hilarious.
Good follow on Instagram.
Don't get me wrong.
I don't know how I picked up onher.
I saw it and I was like, man,this girl's funny.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_09 (47:49):
Hey Ben, tell me
something good.
SPEAKER_03 (47:56):
All right, Stevie,
we're already.
We're in the month almost.
Well, we gotta celebrateHalloween.
First off, tell me somethinggood.
Secondly, have you chosen acostume yet?
SPEAKER_07 (48:09):
I did not choose a
costume.
I'm not gonna choose a costume.
I just walk around theneighborhood drinking with my
neighbors.
But um, something good for methough, man.
Golly, you probably know whereI'm going with this.
It is another home game at DKRStadium.
We've been golfing for over amonth.
Man, and I'm so happy.
(48:29):
I got something to do onSaturday here is to go and see
all my rowdy friends in in myrowdy section and um and and and
watch um the the my TexasLonghorns beat up on the Van D.
What what are they Commodores?
What are they Commodores?
Commodores, yeah.
So come out of Texas.
(48:50):
I really need this.
Uh it's gonna be fun, man.
That's something good for me.
I'm really looking forward toit.
SPEAKER_03 (48:56):
I love it.
I'm gonna say the same thing.
Um something's good is thatcollege football season, and I'm
not gonna go poetic on life andlife lessons, I'm just gonna
keep this simple.
Um, college football is sobeautiful and poetic in itself,
it and we all romanticize itbecause every week is different,
(49:21):
every week and it just buildsmomentum, and the October
onboarding to November isperfect because now for us,
we're an SEC country, even inthe Big 12, and it just even in
the high school ranks, everygame means something, and the
fan base knows it.
The fan bases know it.
(49:42):
It's a beautiful thing.
I guarantee you.
Saturday morning, it doesn'tmatter how early the game is.
I'm just speaking in particularfor Texas, it is gonna be like a
family reunion for Texas fans toget to go back for the first
time since September.
SPEAKER_06 (49:59):
Yep.
SPEAKER_03 (50:01):
That's great.
I can't wait to see all of ourpeople, chosen beverage,
breakfast taco, and SECfootball.
It may be a few better.
We gotta stay hydrated, Stevie.
SPEAKER_07 (50:18):
No question.
SPEAKER_03 (50:21):
Hey, great episode!
Shout out to Mike Adams, the
playmaker.
Always good input, and thank youfor staying up uh with us here
on uh I know we started at 8:30tonight, and thank you for
always, always supportingstories inside the Man Cave
Podcast.
And for Shreeport, Louisiana,the home of Stevie Lee and the
home of our growth grouping atNakadosis, Texas, the home of my
(50:42):
college alma mater, my beautifulhometown, Austin, Texas, maybe a
better place.
And to all of you, whereveryou're from, we love you.
We thank you.
Be sure to follow each of oursocial media uh platforms and to
Stevie Lee and his family andeverybody else, and to the OG
Man Cave boys.
That being Big Mike, Coach Mo,and Hardball Hard.
(51:05):
What do we tell him, Stevie Lee?
SPEAKER_07 (51:08):
We out.
I'm in my car to get out of theday,