The Pass Rush with Stevie Lee, Clynch, & Adams: This is a rebuilding season for the Longhorns

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Texas takes its lumps against Georgia and we sort through what’s real: penalties, drops, youth on defense, and a run-game identity that keeps disappearing. We lay out how to win out against Arkansas and A&M without ducking smoke or sugarcoating expectations.

• Georgia loss dissected and early optimism checked
• Rebuild vs reload after massive roster turnover
• Arch Manning’s growth and leadership under pressure
• Receiver drops on key crossers and drive killers
• Penalties and procedural discipline biting field position
• Run-game commitment, sequencing, and scheme variety
• Secondary youth targeted opposite Manny Muhammad
• Arkansas preview and trap-game urgency
• A&M debate, identity talk, and Heisman chatter
• OU’s résumé, SEC pecking order, and CFP context
• Texas high school playoff shoutouts and gratitude

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SPEAKER_11 (00:32):
Ooh, I know that it is triggering for all Longhorn
fans to repeat what happenedSaturday night in Athens,
Georgia.
Something like that.
The onside kick.
Steve Sarkeesian said the teamworked on that leading up to it.
There were so many mistakes inthat game, but for two and a

(00:54):
half quarters, that Texasdefense kept the Longhorns in
that game.
But just like most of theseason, the Texas defense has
been on the field a lot.
There have been some brightspots on the offense.
I stand tall, and I know I'llget criticized for this, that
Arch Manning has come a longway.

(01:15):
He has developed throughout thisseason.
But the theme of this season sofar has been the drops by the
receivers.
Offensive line has finallydeveloped.
They found the right combinationnine games in.
And, you know, things like that.

(01:36):
The drops, the penalties?
I mean, nine penalties againstGeorgia.
In fact, plain and simple, Texasgot beat 35-10.
College football playoff hopesare minimal now.
Texas has to win out.
Beat Arkansas this week and thenbeat Texas AM the night after
Thanksgiving.

(01:57):
And I cannot wait, cannot waitto hear what Stevie Lee has to
say in the Playmaker83.
Mike Adams, the former Texasreceiving great in his segment.
We're going to dive deep intothis.
But before we do all that,definitely want to encourage you
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(02:18):
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All right.
Let's not waste any more time.
Let's dig into it, episode 494.
We're going to try to figure outthe problems and address what
many of you who are Longhornfans, what you're thinking, and

(02:39):
Aggie fans, you're riding high.
Best start since 1992.

SPEAKER_05 (02:44):
Let's ride being a more physical team.

(03:07):
You have to recruit physicalplayers and they have to buy
into that process.
I don't know that a lot of thesekids nowadays they want to
check.
They don't want physicality.
And if you you have the checkand no physicality, you end up
with nothing.
So we're not just getting checksat our place.
We're hitting people.

SPEAKER_11 (03:27):
Stevie Lee, uh man, good to see you again.
Um, have you recovered fromSaturday?
And Georgia's still Georgia.
Kirby Smart's not lying.
And tell me how close you thinkTexas is to becoming what
Georgia is now.

SPEAKER_07 (03:47):
Uh, I guess I'm a little bit more optimistic than
uh everyone else around town.
How you doing, man?
Man, I'm doing good, man.
It's good to see your face.
And you know, it was kind ofquiet this weekend.
Yeah, but no, I'm I'm happy.
Um, Kirby Smart has a machinegoing over there in Athens, man.
So um, yeah, I mean, they'rejust good right now, period.

(04:09):
Um, we are we are not as good aswe thought we were gonna be.
In fact, I think we should callthis a rebuilding year.
Normally, what you would callthis type of um uh year uh
coming off of you know going tothe college football playoffs,
getting a new quarterback,getting a basically a whole new

(04:30):
offensive line, you would havecalled this a rebuilding year in
the beginning of the yearanyway.
And now it's starting to feellike it was a rebuilding year.
Um uh the the polls just got itreally wrong by putting us first
in the country.
Um but yeah, Kirby has a machineover there right now.

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Um, you know, heavy is the headthat wears the crown.
They got the crown right now.

SPEAKER_11 (04:56):
Man, I love your philosophy, Stevie Lee, the
philosopher.
Yeah, I love it, man.
Uh there's a there's so manynegative things brewing in.
I mean, do you remember our conso we'll go back to our kickoff
show at the Boulevard?
The bar and grill.
Remember that.

(05:18):
And I do remember you and Italking, and I said, you know
what?
I'm optimistic.
I think uh Sark has this programto, you know, with all these
multiple levels or layers ofrecruiting, that maybe it's time
they can just plug and play.
Maybe they've reached that wherethey can plug and play.

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But I did say, I even though Iwas being optimistic about this
Texas Longhorn team, I did say Idon't care if you have backups
on the offensive line, if youlose four of them, four
starters, and and trying tocreate starters out of them,
that's the hardest position tocreate starters and

(06:03):
cohesiveness, find the rightcombination, then you lose your
your your NFL caliber receivers.
And people again will kill mefor saying this.
Killing me by criticizing me.
Just because a quarterback is oncampus for three years, I'm not
being apologetic, I'm not beingan arch apologist.

(06:26):
It's a fact.
If you're not playing meaningfulsnaps and starting, and you have
an offensive line that's new,that's not good for any QB.
None.
That's what I'm saying.
And an NFL caliber tight end,24, I believe, Longhorns have
been drafted in two years.

SPEAKER_07 (06:48):
Yeah, so we had to rebuild our program after that.
So it's um it's just showingtrue right now that we are
rebuilding uh and reloading.
I think that a good off-seasonis gonna uh do us very, very
well.
Um good uh spring ball, goodspring game, and good uh camp

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going into next year is gonna dous well.

SPEAKER_11 (07:10):
Well, the season's not over.
Still two.
Oh, it's not over.

SPEAKER_07 (07:13):
You're right.
It's not over, but the goalsthat was in front of them um are
likely over.
Like we wanted to win um the uhSEC.
Well, that's probably not gonnahappen at this point, right?

SPEAKER_11 (07:24):
More than likely.
Right?

SPEAKER_07 (07:26):
And then and then you get into the college
football playoffs, more thanlikely won't happen.
There's gotta be some miraclesthat happen down the road that
that's out of our hands.

SPEAKER_11 (07:34):
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(08:05):
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(08:29):
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(08:50):
Oh my god, man, it's time.
Let's bring in our guy MikeAdams, man.
We maybe we'll get him to run aroute for us like he used to

(09:10):
Mike Adams, how you doing,brother?
What's going on, fellas?
Y'all good?
Man, we good.
Uh we we got a littlelong-winded because there's just
so much to talk about.
Um, I guess initially, I want tocome.
You want me to come in hard,hard, or just ease into it?

SPEAKER_08 (09:27):
Well, well, since I didn't get a chance to join you
guys last week in action, Imean, I guess you might as well
just come in hard.

SPEAKER_11 (09:34):
Come in hard, man.
That's uh tell you what, todayDesmond Howard drops uh
something on Instagram about hesaid, I don't know anything, but
don't be surprised of a mutualparting of ways between Mac, I
almost said Mac Brown, SteveSarkesian and the University of

(09:57):
Texas, man.
What and I'll add to that, onthat Instagram post, Chris Del
Conte pose, he responded to it,and he said, glad for the
insight.
What's your take on this, Mike?

SPEAKER_08 (10:17):
Man, I you know, I'm not gonna speculate any more
than I guess what Desmond Howardis doing.
I maybe he knows something,maybe he doesn't, but you know,
I I think uh man, however thatplays out, it plays out.
But I all I guess I would sayabout it is you know, you know,

(10:39):
Sark's a great coach.
Um, he's gonna be in demand.
I mean, that that's no secretthat you know college coaches,
you know, the top collegecoaches across the land are you
know getting interest from othercolleges from the NFL, what have
you.
So yeah, you know, when thatbridge gets ready to get
crossed, uh, I'm sure we'll allhear about it then.

(10:59):
But till then, I'm gonna be aresponsible individual and just
not really gonna touch thatbecause I don't I don't know.

SPEAKER_11 (11:07):
Stevie, quick real quick, I didn't I wanted to save
it from when Mike entered theroom, but you saw it, you saw
Chris Del Cone in the comments,which I thought was classic.
And any used emojis.
This one, thank you for the uhinsight.
You think there's any fire toall this?

(11:27):
Because this is twice now in thelast three or four weeks.

SPEAKER_07 (11:31):
Yeah, um, I don't think, I don't think well, man.
So I don't I don't know.
I don't know, but Desmondwouldn't, I don't think that
Desmond would have said anythingif there was some something out
there, you know what I mean?
Uh I can agree with that.
I mean because nobody asked him,right?

(11:51):
But he all of a sudden he justsaid something.
So out of the blue, out of theblue, exactly.
So um, I don't know, man, butyou know, with all the coaching
vacancies out there uh incollege football right now, uh I
I thought that there would besome guys on our staff that

(12:11):
would have gotten looks.
Yeah, yeah, but CoachSarkeesian, no, I I I didn't
think uh it that that that thatwould happen, but we all know
that he would like to go to theNFL, and there's gonna be some
NFL vacancies out there too.

SPEAKER_11 (12:28):
I don't know what to put this rest.
I don't think there's any anystrength or truth to any of
this.
I do think his name is beingcirculated, and they have
sources uh saying it, and I'mnot gonna be one of those, well,
there's smoke, there's fire.
We'll we'll know soon enough.

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Wide receiver drops.
It has been something that'sbeen a theme for this year, and
Arts actually filtered aquestion about it today.

SPEAKER_04 (12:58):
Just just move on.
I mean, there's been countlesstimes where I have not thrown
them a good ball, and they'vebailed me out.
And so uh you just got to moveon, learn from it, and keep
going.
There's nothing they're nottrying to drop the ball.
I'm not trying to throw a badball.
You know, we're all human, makemistakes.

SPEAKER_11 (13:14):
So I'm gonna ask the guy that uh played on the
defensive line for Stevie.
Mike alluded to it.
You've got a lot of youngreceivers, but that response
from Arch, I mean, it's whatelse is he gonna say?
You know, you can't criticizehim.
He he's made progress.
If anything, in that Georgiagame offensively, I thought Arch

(13:36):
continued this trajectory onimprovement.

SPEAKER_07 (13:42):
Yeah, um, I I didn't lie, I didn't too much like the
response.
I I think the a no response is abetter response.
It's uh um uh we we're gettingbetter every day of catching the
ball, that's all, you know, andjust move on from it.
Um I get I guess his responsefelt like uh he was agreeing

(14:02):
with the reporter for asking thequestion, you know.
So um, but again, he's young,he'll get better at Media Day,
you know.

SPEAKER_08 (14:11):
Hey, hey, but but before you move on though, I
actually I love his response.
I love his response because youknow, we've all heard the mantra
of hey, you drop the pass, youdo a bad pass.
I mean, you gotta have a DBmindset.
Hey, you got burned, you gottabe ready.
Next play, next play mentality.

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And as a receiver, man, if youstart thinking about the one
ball you drop, you're probablygonna drop the next three.
You gotta get over it, man.
You got to get over it.
I mean, and that's somethingthat could linger into the next
game, and you don't want it to.
Like Hart said, you know, I'vethrown bad passes, balls that
they caught and made me lookgood, and vice versa.

(14:54):
So, so man, I mean, it it Iagree with him in that
sentiment.
You know, maybe people didn'treally like his um demeanor as
he was answering that questionbecause it was just kind of laid
back nonchalant, like, yeah,let's just move on.
You know, we all make mistakes,but but I think he's absolutely
right, man.
You dropped the ball, wingodidn't try to drop the pass.
I've dropped balls before, Ididn't try to drop it.

(15:17):
You know, but I can honestly sayI think I dropped like maybe
eight, nine balls in my 177catches that I've caught.
So that's like a 92% catchratio.
So I I I do take pride incatching the ball, and yeah,
it's definitely important, man.
And you know, what we can't seeis us coming back this next two
or three games, and we'redropping the same types of
passes.

(15:37):
That's all right.

SPEAKER_07 (15:39):
I like MA knowing his uh his his catch
percentages, man.
I love that.

SPEAKER_11 (15:43):
He's permanently, it's it's permanently stored on
that right lobe of his brain.

SPEAKER_07 (15:47):
No question.
That's good, man.

SPEAKER_08 (15:51):
There were a couple I should have caught, and I it
plugs me to this day.

SPEAKER_07 (15:54):
Yeah, I hear you, man.

SPEAKER_08 (15:56):
Nobody, nobody uh that upsets no one more than the
person that dropped the bats,yeah, or made that pick.

SPEAKER_11 (16:02):
You wanna you you remember the ones you didn't
make over the ones you did.
Oh, for sure.
For sure.
That they eat so I think whatfans and and you know this,
Mike.
We've seen it, and it's not torun a young guy down, but it's
those crossing, those modernintermediate crossing routes
that uh drag routes that I thinkwingo has dropped quite a bit

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this season.
And it's you know, they werethey're drive killers, and
that's what people are arecriticizing them about.

SPEAKER_08 (16:34):
Oh yeah, and man, it's just and and it's a
concentration day.
I I can see if every because youyou've seen him make great
stabs.
I mean, catch the end zone, man,use his hand, had his body in
position.
I mean, pretty good catch,defender on his back.
I mean, you've seen him catchsome D balls.
I mean, I mean, while he he'sdropped a couple, but the easy
routes like that shallow crossin the first quarter, man, that

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would have put us in position toget a first down and tie the
ball game up.
But but that's a situation whereyou know he's trying to catch
the ball and run run with itbefore he catches it.
I mean, those are correctableactions.
Now, to me, what needs to happenis we don't need to see him have
the same type of drop this nextgame or the following games.
Because then that tells me thateither something's not being

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taught correctly, we're notgoing back and watching and
trying to figure out how tobetter our mistakes, or his
concentration level really is aproblem, which I think that
leads back to coaching too.
Yeah, so hopefully we should seesome improvement, you know, this
next ball game.

SPEAKER_11 (17:36):
You you would think, um, this is the one topic that
bugs me.
I just I literally, this isfunny.
Now, envision this me puttingtogether, doing the math, and I
had to just double check,confirm.
Dating back to last year's gamein Austin against Georgia, the
SEC Championship, and this pastSaturday's game against Georgia,

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Texas total in those threegames, 83 yards rushing, 83
yards total.
Um, and Sark brought it up.
He was asked about it.
I thought we actually ran itpretty good.

SPEAKER_10 (18:12):
We just didn't get enough opportunities.

SPEAKER_11 (18:16):
So, how do you?
I mean, I I I'm trying to figurethat out.
You don't get opportunities.
What does that mean, Stevie?

SPEAKER_07 (18:24):
I don't know why you came to me because I don't know.
Um maybe the playmaker uh heplayed offense, maybe he knows.
Uh are we doing what the defensegives us, or are we trying to do
what we want to do?

SPEAKER_08 (18:37):
You know, see, I I I think if if I can interpret
that, what what Sark is saying,that we didn't have enough
opportunities.
I think that points to the thethe flow of the game.
And and I and I think you know,if the game is flowing a certain
way, if we're in rhythm andwe're able to establish a run,
you know, you know, play infront of the sticks and not get

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in, you know, passing downs.
I mean, I mean, there were a lotof times we were playing behind
the sticks and we really didn'tget a chance to to really
establish the run.
Now, some of that could be youknow, maybe we switch up our
scheme, our attack, you know,maybe run on first down, or or
maybe you know, you know, run onyou know, second and long.

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I mean, just just something toto throw the defense off to mix
it up a little bit.
But but offense, man, it'stricky, and and you got to get
in the Florida game.
To be a play caller, I mean,start as we we've all talked
about it, he he gets in theflow, he has his 15, 20 play
script to start the game, andand and and a lot of those are
pass plays, but but I know welike to run the ball, and

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sometimes you just gotta makeyour mind up, you're going to uh
force your will on a defense.
We know Georgia's the type ofdefense to where, man, they're
gonna play the run.
And it looked like to me, theyprobably wanted Arch to throw as
much as he did.
You know, with our inexperiencedoffensive line, I don't know,
maybe maybe we felt like wecouldn't really establish a run.
But it's the type of runs thatwe try to do also.

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I mean, because they're anaggressive defense.
I mean, they float the ball realfast.
I mean, you got to work in somereverses.
I I mean, you got to run somestretch plays, even though that
goes against conventionalwisdom, because those guys are
fast, they play sideline tosideline.
But that helps set up theiraggressiveness, you know, with
other types of runs and passplays.
So sometimes you got to crawlbefore you can walk, and you

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can't get away from running upthe middle.
I mean, this was a FloridaD-line, or excuse me, a Georgia
D line that you know people saidwasn't one of their best D lines
compared to the years of thepast.
Not saying that they're notgood, but it's certainly not
Jordan Davis and those guys.
So you gotta work the run game,even if you're getting two yards
in a cloud of dust.

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So it's just a matter of findinga rhythm.
Well, I think that's what he'strying to say.

SPEAKER_11 (20:52):
Here's the hardest part they started that game, and
then all the people who say youknow, Wisner is not your it's
not a number one back.
I mean, the guy had a thousandyards rushing last year.
He's tough, he's tough to bringdown.
Um, they had 33 yards rushingearly on.
Early on, yeah, they ended upthey were negative 10 the rest

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of the game.

SPEAKER_07 (21:15):
Yeah, yeah.
We and the first drive, we hitwe hit him for what 16 yards and
then uh five, and then somethinglike that.
We was hitting them in the mouthfor pretty good, and then
Sarkeesen abandoned the run.
He he just abandoned it.
He it wasn't opportunities thatthey were giving us or haven't

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didn't get the opportunities, itwas just that he went away from
the run.

SPEAKER_08 (21:40):
And the game was tight, the game was tight to
till the fourth quarter.
Now, I will say, looking at ourpersonnel and the types of backs
that we have, I I mean, youknow, maybe people are
questioning that in terms ofproduction.
And I mean, because I, you know,I think we have some good solid
backs, but I don't think we havea guy that if I'm doing the sky

(22:03):
report for the week for theopposite team, I don't know if
anybody fears me.
I don't know if anybody, youknow, in our backfield, I'm
afraid they could take the ball,you know, 80 yards on on an
outside pitch or an inside blastplay, you know, take it to the
distance.
Like uh, say, I don't know,Louisville Louisville has a guy,
Isaac Brown.

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That guy's pretty good.
That guy's a home run hitter.
I don't know if we have a homerun hitter at the running back
position.
Somebody that you know, we'veall seen those types of guys
before.
I mean, we had them here on ouryard before.
I I mean, Ricky was you know,Ricky was Ricky, but Ricky could
take it to the house if there'sa crease.
I mean, I mean, I mean, JamalCharles, those type of explosive

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type, we don't have that.
And I I think it's easy fordefenses to while they respect
our run game, they don't fearour run game, especially with an
inexperienced offensive line.

SPEAKER_11 (22:57):
Right.
Yeah.
Well, it doesn't help whenyou're committing penalties
after penalties.
I've got a stat for y'all.
There are 136 college footballprograms at the FBS level.
You guys want to take a guesswhere Texas is as far as

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penalties for this year?
Ranked amongst 136 programs.
Man.

SPEAKER_07 (23:28):
136.

SPEAKER_11 (23:29):
They're ranked, they are the second, the second most
penalized team in FBS.

SPEAKER_07 (23:36):
So 135.

SPEAKER_11 (23:37):
Yep.
135.
I wouldn't probably say top 20,top 25.
It's insane, man.
Yeah, that's at least to mysource, my uh not not a human,
but uh the digital resources outthere.

SPEAKER_08 (23:52):
Okay, so so what do you think that's attributed to?
I mean, because you know theythey normally equate you know a
team being the most penalizedwith a team that's
undisciplined.
Coaching.
I mean, do we have anundisciplined football team?
Yes, obviously, in certainareas, yes.

SPEAKER_07 (24:10):
Because most of the time those are false starts, and
that's discipline on theoffensive line.

SPEAKER_11 (24:15):
Procedural penalties, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 (24:18):
And uh so there is a discipline problem.
Um, and I feel like it wasn'taddressed in the beginning of
the season, so they neveraddressed it, you know.
Um, we've had penalty problemsevery single game.
Uh every game.
Yeah, so it's not beingaddressed, or it's not a

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priority to them to try to fixit.

SPEAKER_08 (24:45):
So is that a discipline problem?
Because that that sounds like, Imean, is that a coaching
problem?

SPEAKER_07 (24:53):
Or are they uncoachable?
I think that's discipline iscoming from coaching.

SPEAKER_08 (25:00):
Right.
Yeah, because coaches cancorrect that.
I mean, obviously the players, Imean, that that's something
that, you know, repetition andpractice and you know, being on
count, knowing formations, youknow, not being illegal and
different things like that, nothaving those pre-snap penalties,
you know, which which which canbe avoided.
But if that's not being workedon and being corrected, I mean,

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I mean, do you blame the theplayer at that point?
What did Mike Lee say?
Yeah, you're either coaching itor allowing it.

SPEAKER_11 (25:30):
Yeah.
But even on you go to you we'refucked, we're talking about the
offense, but look at uh ColinSimmons.
Now everyone's human.
We all make mistakes, but whenColin Simmons jumped offside,
that gave Georgia moreopportunity.

SPEAKER_07 (25:49):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 (25:50):
Because that that's I don't I don't I don't know
what it is.
I just feel like that's thetheme of this team.
Uh poor red zone offense, uh uhexecution, penalties, and wide
receiver drops.
And that's and now we'restarting to have defensive
breakdowns, secondary concerns,and special teams.

(26:13):
Uh Stevie, which of those threeworries you the most?
Because I feel like you guystell me collectively, the
defense has been on the field alot longer than the offense.
Is that a problem in you guys,to your in your opinion?
Because the secondaries, they'regetting the backside, man,

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they're giving up a lot of yardsin the last four or five weeks.

SPEAKER_07 (26:38):
So I'll I I would never say this out loud, but I'm
about to say it out loud.
Um I was wondering if the gamehas already passed um Coach
Aquina.
Um, our DVs did not look up forthe task.

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Um, but yes, they're still onthe field too long.
Yeah, my biggest worry, I'm nottoo worried about the um the
special teams that they're gonnado that right, but the offense
is is my biggest worry.
And then then the breakdowns onthe on the back end of the uh
defense, the secondary, right?

(27:22):
Those are my worries.

SPEAKER_08 (27:23):
I I I think usually when you you see those things,
especially on the back end, andcoach Aquina, man, he he's yeah,
you know, one of the greatest DBcoaches at the game is known.
No, the experiences there.
I mean, he's put some guys inthe league and all that type of
stuff.
You know, I to me, I think itall goes back to youth.
I mean, we we just got a bunchof young players across the

(27:46):
board on both sides of the ball.
Uh they're learning how to playin-game situations, uh, you
know, for the first time.
These are things that I thinkare typical with uh a young
football team.
Yeah, I think they earned theright to be number one.
They they can't help they werechosen to be number one during
the season.
Arch can't help the hype that hegot.

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You know, you gotta give andtake those things as they come.
I mean, and you know, it can'twe I I knew Arch was gonna
struggle.
I mean, I'm not a you know typeof individual.
Correct.
Arch not having played, youknow, even when sitting on the
bench for a couple years andbeen in the system, man, there's
nothing like game reps.

(28:27):
I don't care what what theposition is, and you're you're
gonna have to go out there.
The game reps are a lot fasterthan good on good in practice.
I'm sorry.
I don't care who's on the otherside of the ball.
That that's somewhat scripted inpractice.
You're not taking guys to theground, you know, you're not
having to deal with adversethings like you are when you're
playing another team withanother jersey.

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It's not like you're gonna findthat you're fast, defenses are
different.
I uh I mean, those in-game repsare very, very important.
So I just think we're just ayoung team.
And we're still 73, chance towin out, possibly even go to
playoffs.
So, man, I I mean, I think wejust gotta take it all with a
grain of salt.
But expectations were high.

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That's what happens when you goto Texas, especially here in the
last 15-20 years, people expectchampionships, and this is just
what comes with it.
You know, we gotta be okay whenit doesn't happen.

SPEAKER_11 (29:20):
And it's if they get to if they get to nine wins, I I
feel like that's a great yearfor this team.
And I think the fan base reallyneeds to embrace how this roster
was composed.
Seriously, the the makeup of it.
And because when you look at theDBs, teams are avoiding throwing

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on Manny Muhammad, right?
But they're picking on the otherside big time.
They did this last game becausewe haven't Texas hasn't settled
on someone at corner.
Littleton's, I think, is goingto be a great uh safety, but to
your point.
He's making youthful uh errors.

SPEAKER_08 (30:04):
Easy to do with safety, too.
I mean you know you gotta be acerebral heady guy back there at
safety.
I mean, I mean Taft been therethree, four years, very
experienced.
I mean, I mean, you know, theleader of that secondary.
I I mean, he I mean, he's a guy.
You know, is he one of the bestcover guys?
No.

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I mean, one of the younger guysmay actually be a better cover
guy, but in terms of knowing thedefense, seeing the field,
knowing schemes and things likethat, he he's light years ahead
of uh freshman guys or youngsophomore guys, red shirt
freshmen who haven't played.
I mean, it goes back again tothose reps, even at corner.
I mean, corner corners, man.

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You you'll come back a lotbetter the following year once
you had a year of gettingburned.
The way it goes.

SPEAKER_11 (30:53):
I remember I was in high school and 1988.
It was Eric Metcast last year,and they had all freshman DBs.
Mark Berry, yeah.
Um, I think Lance Gunn was oneof them.
Stanley Richard.
Man, those guys took it on thechin all season long.

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89, 90, they got better andbetter and better.
Man, there's been other classeslike that.
Chris Carter was during yourtime, that group, yeah.
And uh uh Trey Carter.

SPEAKER_08 (31:26):
I mean, Trey though those dudes like Westbrook,
Trey, Trey Thomas, Carter, youknow, Tony Holmes, and all those
guys came in when I was here, mymy third year, and these guys
are you know, or came in a yearafter me going into my sophomore
year, and I had a year under mybelt.
These guys, like, man, we usedto be scared of going against

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you in practice.
Hey, I'm killing those dudes.
I mean, they they were justyoung DBs, and and you know, you
you take somebody with a highskill level, man, that's gonna
be that's gonna be easy money.
But as those dudes grew throughthe years and we all became
seniors, and yeah, I'm like,man, these dudes are really
improved a lot.
I mean, everybody's gottenbigger, everybody's gotten

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faster, and everybodyunderstands how to play the
position.
I I mean that that that comeswith time, man.
We just gotta be.
I I know it's hard, you know,it's tough seeing us get
dominated the way we gotdominated, but that very well
could be Texas next year.
They Texas could be doing thedominating.

SPEAKER_11 (32:26):
Kirby Smart is to Sark with Bob Stutz was to Mac
Brown for a little while.

SPEAKER_07 (32:34):
Oh I don't want to talk about it.

SPEAKER_11 (32:37):
Yeah, oh that's right.
Stevie was a part of that.
But remember, Bob won a nationaltitle in year three or two, and
they had that momentum.
Texas was trying to get there,it took them five years to get
to that point.
Kirby's won multiple.

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It's not just quick becauseyou're Texas, it's just not
gonna happen that quickly, andit's just not.

SPEAKER_08 (33:04):
Um and he's been in the championship game, man,
since what 2017, 2018 beforeShark even got to Texas.
So so Shark Shark is playingcatch up if we're trying to
compare him to Curry.
Yeah, and I mean, it's not evena fair comparison, to be honest,
because Curry's already beenthere a couple two or three

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times, and Shark Shark has donegreat work within a short time
he's been there and had us closeto the game.
I mean, we've been right there,but you know, and it's gonna
take it's hard to take down theking.
I guess right now you it's hardnot to argue that Curry Smart is
probably the best coach incollege football.
They haven't won a title in thelast couple years or whatever,

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but man, Georgia's right there.
They're the most consistentteam, and it's the one that you
don't want to play that that youfear, you know.
Um, yeah, it's a tough, it's ait's a tough, tough ask for
anybody.

SPEAKER_11 (34:01):
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(34:21):
Tell me why you uh justifyfiring sorry.
I've seen that a lot here in thelast few days.
Why?
Why would you want to do that?
Hey, no judgment, it's youropinion on it.
We just want to know why,because I've seen it, and just
where you feel, where yourheadspace is right now, because
you the fan.

(34:42):
Hey, I get it.
Everyone is entitled to theiropinion.
All right, so Texas is four andtwo in the SEC, and they're
essentially tied with Oklahomaand Bandy, and then there's one,
two, three teams with one loss.
Georgia's done with the regularseason in the SEC.

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They're done because they got anon-conference against Charlotte
and another non-conference inGeorgia Tech.
Georgia Tech could beat Georgia.
Um, and Ole Miss could get beatin that rivalry game in the egg
bowl, and Bama's got the IronBowl.
I mean, so anything can happen,and OU's got Missouri and then

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LSU at home.
A lot of football still left.
And if Texas finds a way tostart out by beating Arkansas,
and to the folks that don'tunderstand, that's a big time
rivalry.
And I want to point this out Iknow they're two and eight.
They have a former head coach astheir interim.

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Six of those eight losses wereby a combined 17 points.
Bobby Petrino is who I'm talkingabout.
He was asked about how they'reholding together because I think
you'll agree as we both return.
Stevie, you even said it, theyshould have beaten LSU.

SPEAKER_00 (36:07):
But those guys in that locker room have been
putting a tremendous amount ofeffort in it, and they have a
lot of pride.
And um, I don't think there'sanyone in that locker room that
has given up and not preparedand not came out and and
competed extremely hard.
So just gonna stay after it.

SPEAKER_11 (36:27):
And they're gonna come after Texas, and Stevie,
they I think they got hosed onthat game against LSU.

SPEAKER_07 (36:34):
I didn't watch the game, but um, you know, LSU,
well, I guess they're bothplaying with interim coaches.

SPEAKER_10 (36:41):
Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 (36:43):
Yeah, the interim coaches both.
Um, but it I don't know, man.
I they uh I don't know.
I I do know that they're gonnabe fired up.
We are their biggest rival, oneof their biggest rivals.
Um, and it'll save their seasonif they came in to uh Texas to
beat Texas, you know.

(37:05):
Um, but I I don't see it, if I'mbeing honest.
I don't see it because um theyhave a really good run offense,
and we just have a really goodrun defense, and I think that um
our offense gets on track andthen uh start picking apart,
picking the Arkansas defenseapart, too.

SPEAKER_11 (37:24):
So Taylon Green, quarterback, very athletic.
Yeah, virtue of his legs, andthen uh Mike Washington Jr.
I think he has over 900 yardsrushing.
So, Stevie, you said it um thebest.
Um A, are you worried?
I I I'm gonna be honest withyou.

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If Texas doesn't come out andbeat them by double digits, I
think they're I mean Arkansas.

SPEAKER_08 (37:53):
I mean, I I saw a little bit of the LSU game, and
it was a tight game.
It was a game they could havewon.
Like you mentioned, they've lostyou know six games by a total of
17 points.
I mean, I saw some of their gameagainst Auburn.
That's another game they couldhave won.
No, they they played uh verycompetitively in the SEC
conference, losing some veryclose games against some tough

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competition.
So it's not gonna be a cakewalkfor us this weekend.
I mean, it's it's a game that ifwe're still thinking about the
Georgia loss, uh it could be atight ball game uh throughout
its entirety.
So we better be ready to play.
Arkansas is uh basically playingfor pride at this point, right?
And man, Petrino, who who's beenin you know, a few other stops

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and has had success as a headcoach, is probably gonna pull
out all the stops this weekend.
Oh you know it's if he were tobeat us this weekend, they might
give him a job.
And he's lost a few games to wina game like this on the road, a
big time situation, big timemoment.
I mean, I it wouldn't stop meone bit if they gave him the

(39:02):
job.
I mean, we don't need to allowthat to happen.
We need to come out and jump onthese guys real quick.
And Green is a man, he's a beastto me.
I like him, I like what hebrings to the table, very
athletic.
He kind of reminds me, kind ofreminds me of VY, to be honest,
with with his height and the wayhe moves.
I mean, he's a playmakerquarterback, dude.

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Has a strong arm, so we can't wecan't take Arkansas for granted,
right?
And you know, it was a good gamelast year, it really was the
last two years been kind oftight.

SPEAKER_11 (39:33):
So we we can't we can't take it for granted.
I'm gonna tell you what, I wentup there in 2021, Sark's first
year.
I never want to go back as avisit.
Yeah, I guess that's a good kindof stuff.

SPEAKER_08 (39:43):
Yeah, man, they they they put it on us.

SPEAKER_11 (39:45):
AM 10 0.
Stevie, uh, you talked about itbefore we brought Mike in.
You know, I gotta feel you inwhat he said, Mike.
He said that even when AM wasdown 30 to 3, he uh Stevie said
that he he without question, heknew AM was coming back.

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Is that how you fell?

SPEAKER_08 (40:08):
Man, I I'm not gonna lie, I I thought it was over.
I I I thought South Carolina, Idid because that AM I saw the
first half, that's the AM I sawlast year on Thanksgiving
weekend against Texas.
And that and to me, that's thatthat's my perception of AM until
until they beat us, and I knowthey won all the games this

(40:31):
year, and I know they beat NotreDame and you know got a couple
of no decent victories.
I I I want to see them in abouttwo next weekend.
That that's what I want to see.
Then we're gonna see their nameto be able to say that's a
different AM team.
Because I'm not convinced thatthey're gonna beat us here next
weekend.
I'm not convinced.
Uh I'm not convinced that TylerSimmons is gonna be blocked and

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not get to the backfield likeSouth Carolina's defense did.
Man, they they was living in thebackfield.
And if those guys catch, theythey picked him off two or three
times.
If they catch another one or twoof those potential picks, man,
he he's throwing fiveinterceptions.
One of those would have gone tothe house.
The kid just dropped, theydropped five interceptions.
Like, I'm I'm not convinced.

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I'm not so I and it's a greatteam, don't get me wrong.
I think they're very good.
I think they deserve theranking.
I I think everything thatthey're getting right now and
coach getting a new cut and allthat.
I I mean they they deserve it,but I I'm still not sold that
this team is you knowunbeatable, or they're getting

(41:37):
ready to roll over here and andand beat up on the long horns
next weekend.
I I need to see it.

SPEAKER_11 (41:44):
That's gonna be that's gonna be fun, and I hope
that's gonna be a greatenvironment here in Austin.
So uh Mike Elko, he was askedwhat happened at halftime.
What did he say?
What did they do?
And essentially he said it's notanything they did, it's the
realization of who they are.

SPEAKER_01 (42:01):
We have we have an identity of who we are.
If we play to our identity,we're a good football team.
If we start thinking that's notwho we are, if we start thinking
we're something else, if westart having time to play a
different way, um, that's notus.
That's not who we are.
We're a blue-collar team, we'rea physical team, uh, we're a
team that has to control theline of scrimmage, we're a team

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that has to play with a lot ofenergy, and um, we just weren't
doing any of those things in thefirst half.
And um, I think the the vibeswere good.
Given you know, all thingsconsidered, the vibes were good.
The kids believed we were gonnacome out and win that game in
the second half.

SPEAKER_11 (42:37):
So there you go.

SPEAKER_08 (42:38):
Anyway, yep.
I they they are what the firsthalf said they are because they
didn't play like none of thatyou know in the first half.
South Carolina came out there,they dominated them.
I mean, you had guys lookingover their shoulder, you had
guys missing extra points, youknow, that they were panicking
on the sideline.
I mean, AM didn't do a good jobof running football.

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I mean, South Carolina wasstuffing.
I think our defense is betterthan South Carolina.
I think a three-and-six orwhatever they are, two and seven
South Carolina football teamlost their game more than AM won
the game.
I mean, they barely won thegame.

SPEAKER_07 (43:16):
But in the same breath, though, the AM is who we
saw who they were in the firsthalf.
So, who was that in the secondhalf?

SPEAKER_08 (43:25):
I think that's more of a reflection of a two and six
or two and seven, three and sixSouth Carolina team than it is
of a 10 and 0 and m team.
That that's my personal opinion.

SPEAKER_07 (43:35):
Respectfully disagree.
Respectfully, um, they they uhthey showed us who they could be
that in that second half, and Iknew that they were coming back.
I it it felt fluke-ish to me,and I honestly I text uh some of
my people uh in a group text.

(43:56):
I said AM was definitely gettingready for Texas and tried to
overlook South Carolina.
Because last two years in a row,they would love to come in the
DKR and beat us.
Um I agree with that sentiment.
I don't think they wereoverlooking South Carolina.

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I I believe they were.
I believe that coach was um tiedup in his contract negotiations,
um, and just wasn't focused.
And they went in the uh lockerroom and said, Y'all do know
we're playing a football gameright now, right?
And they woke up and they cameout and played to their
standard.

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This is a really good footballteam.

SPEAKER_08 (44:39):
I I believe they are good.
I believe I believe they'regood.
And I think I think we're gonnashow people, and here's why
people are still saying that westill have a chance to make the
playoff with a victory over AM.
I feel like a lot of theprognosticators they don't feel
like AM is gonna beat Texas.
I think if they had to choosetoday who's gonna win that game,

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I think I think most peoplewould pick Texas to beat AM.
And I think the image that'sstuck in everybody's head is
what happened last year becausethis was supposed to be AM last
year.
Yeah, man, they barely evenmoved, they barely got a first
down.

SPEAKER_07 (45:12):
So the the the same people that are saying that we
can be AM or going to beat AMalso voted us number one in the
beginning of the season.

SPEAKER_11 (45:21):
So it's it's like the first half against South
Carolina, and then uh your otherarguments the second half versus
South Carolina.

SPEAKER_07 (45:32):
Now, MA, I want you to be right.
Don't get me I know from thatstandpoint, I mean, of course,
but we can put a beer on it or abottle of a bourbon, whatever
you want.

SPEAKER_08 (45:45):
We can definitely do that.
I think it'll be a tight, and weshouldn't even be talking about
AM in Texas right now becausethat that's next week and all
that kind of stuff.
But I don't know, man.
We're it wouldn't shock me onebit if we won that game and we
won it by 10 points or more.
And them are gonna have to showme.
They are they're gonna showthey're gonna show 100,000 in D

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card DKR the day afterThanksgiving, they're gonna show
the nation that they're worththeir number three ranking.

SPEAKER_11 (46:12):
Well, I I don't think they were Stevie, they
they were looking ahead toplaying FCS Sanford this week.
Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_08 (46:23):
I know they're gonna look at two weeks ahead to
Texas.

SPEAKER_07 (46:27):
I think they were man.
I I honestly think that theystarted putting a game plan in
for Texas because South Carolinais just South Carolina to them,
just a bunch of cops, yeah.
A bunch of cocks, and Sanfordwas Sanford.
They started game planning andimplementing for Texas so they
can cruise past them, and thenthey're like, uh-oh, wait a
minute, we got a game before weget to Texas.

SPEAKER_08 (46:50):
Hey, and man, I I I love the quarterback.
Marcel Reed, I think I thinkhe's a very good quarterback,
but man, he almost playedhimself out of Heisman in that
first half.
He was making some veryill-advised throws, they weren't
even close.
I think he actually did.

SPEAKER_07 (47:07):
I think he actually did uh intercept himself out of
the Heisman talk.

SPEAKER_08 (47:13):
I mean, well, I think he threw himself back into
it, throwing 400 yards at secondhand.
Nah, that was I still think he'sin there.
I still think he goes to NewYork.
I mean, to be honest.

SPEAKER_07 (47:23):
Oh, okay.
Gotcha.

SPEAKER_08 (47:25):
I I still think he he played himself back into it
within one game.
I mean, have we ever seen thatbefore?
A guy play himself out of theHeisman and back into the
Heisman all within a span of 30minutes.
I mean, I think he did that.
Well, man, I honestly believeand the hottest player on
defense in the country rightnow, or one of them, is Colin
Simmons.

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He is going to present a problemfor AM and everybody that he
goes goes up against.
And I think Marcel Reed is gonnabe thinking about that.
And I think with their inabilityto really sustain the run game,
oh, kind of like us, you'reasking Marcel Reed to drive back
now as much as he's going to,we're gonna get to the

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backfield.
That's gonna be man, that'sgonna be a hell of a game.
I can't wait to watch it.

SPEAKER_11 (48:11):
You know, and um Anthony Hill, we don't know yet.
Yeah, that's gonna be a danger.
He may be he may be out for sometime.
Um, you know, the AM we'll wrapit up with this.
You know, the Ruben Owens thatuh running back, the AM didn't
have many rushing yards, butConception, that was that
receiver, legit.

SPEAKER_08 (48:33):
He's dangerous, dude.
KC Conception, very dangerous.
They're receiving man, they'renice, they're they're very nice,
so man.
You you know, I think if AM playa certain way, a certain style,
they could pose some problemsfor some defenses, including us.
They could.

SPEAKER_11 (48:51):
I agree, and you know who else can I I think they
might be in.
I I mean OU has Missouri and LSUleft.
They went into Tuscaloosa.
So since Texas and OU haveentered the big or the SEC,

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they're not enjoying thisbecause Alabama has taken a
defeat to both Texas andOklahoma here in recent years.
And OU has done really wellagainst Oklahoma.
They won last year and they wonthis year, and they won in a
sugar bowl before that.

(49:33):
Hey, I I think OU's in thepostseason, although a CFP right
now.
And those Bowen brothers, myGod, but I don't know.
I I don't know.
Um OU.
They've got they got two lossesas well as Texas in the SEC.

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But I you've got to rank themahead of Texas now because OU's
figured it out since that game.

SPEAKER_08 (50:01):
Man, without question, I don't even think
it's close.
And honestly, if I had to pick adefense that I want to go into a
the tournament with, I might bepicking OU's defense.

SPEAKER_11 (50:13):
They're so great.

SPEAKER_08 (50:14):
Within the first, I guess, a couple years they've
been the SEC, man, they resemblewhat we all have come to know as
an SEC type of defense.
Nah, man, they're fast, theyflow, they're aggressive.
I mean, they got one of the bestD-lines in the country.
Just the makeup of their entireteam, man.
They're gritty.
Matthew is a dog.
You can't, I mean, I know hehasn't had the best, you know,

(50:37):
outlook here when it comes topassing the last few games.
But look at who they've beaten.
They went on the road, beatTennessee.
They went to Alabama, beat thosedudes.
I mean, what what other team inthe country has played those two
opponents at their home placeand defeated them?
I mean, I mean, give me a betterresume of a team that's been on

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the road and won two games likethat.

SPEAKER_11 (51:01):
I I just I feel like right now, OU's a much better
team than Texas collectively.

SPEAKER_08 (51:07):
I think OU's finding like the seventh best team in
the country right now.
Easily.
Easily.
I I think they're you gotta ringthem in front of Alabama.
You got to.
That's right.

SPEAKER_11 (51:17):
Well, let's go to the let's go to the power 12 and
see where they are.
Of course, uh Tuesday night CFPis the only one matter.
So this is your consolationprize, the uh the R Power 12.
And then we'll a quick debate.

(51:50):
Yep, man, this is becoming along episode, man.
A lot to talk about here, but uhI don't think there's any
argument on Texas is out.
Right?
I mean, can you disagree withthat?
I think that's safe to say rightnow.
Yeah.
Oh my god.

SPEAKER_07 (52:08):
I'm not saying anything.

SPEAKER_11 (52:10):
Oh, yeah.
Hey, real quick, this wasanimated, and I want to show
y'all something.
Stephen F.
Austin won their conferencechampionship.
Well, uh close to share of it,and uh to the lower division
one, FCS division uh playoffs.
This was their coach, KobeCarthell, afterwards with the

(52:33):
ESPN reporter.
Absolutely hilarious.

(52:57):
Love it, love it, love it.
Oh man, I love that.
Hey, seventh year, he's had tobattle.
NIL, he's had to battle transferportal every year.
Four, five, six guys leave thatteam to go up.
And and and we got a collectivenow.
I say we.

SPEAKER_08 (54:05):
That's a big time win.
Kind of kind of kind of neededthat for the and and the program
has a state championship, youknow, finally got that monkey
off our back, but we haven'tbeen able to beat Westlake the
last couple times we've playedhim.
And and that that's a big winfor a lot of reasons.
So all you kids that are, youknow, you had Vandegriff down on
your totem pole a little bit,and you're not getting any

(54:27):
playing time at Westlake, cometo Vandegriff.
Make my sugar knight pitch.

SPEAKER_11 (54:37):
Well, Westlake, they're having a little bit of a
rebuilding year.
They'll be back.
They'll be back competing.
There's no doubt.

SPEAKER_08 (54:44):
I mean, we say that, Sean, but something's happening
out there at dripping springs.
They might have finally figuredit out because they they've been
teetering.
They've been teetering a littlebit.
They've been playing behindWestlake and Lake Travis and
Vandegriff, and you know, andthey they beat those teams at
various times, but but and thisyear could be a little different
for them.
I mean, they still need to getover the hump and maybe get a

(55:06):
state semifinal appearance andmaybe in the state championship
appearance, but Drip is one ofthose programs, man, just
outside the Austin area.
You know, one horse town.
I can see it developing.

SPEAKER_11 (55:19):
It's coming.
It's coming.
Lake Travis is adding anotherhigh school, but dripping
springs will soon add anotherhigh school.
So I don't know what that'sgonna do to the that's gonna
hurt.

SPEAKER_08 (55:30):
That's gonna hurt him if that happens.
I hadn't heard that.
If that happens, that's gonnahurt him.

SPEAKER_11 (55:33):
That'll hurt him.
Umly Cougars, though.
Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (55:38):
Coach Burton's uh dominated our playoff game, you
know, beat us.
You guys are going around too.
Going around two, man.
Got the uh defending statechampion, Richmond Randall, I
believe.
So that's gonna be a toughassignment, but but but we're
gonna be up for it.
We're gonna be up for it.

SPEAKER_07 (55:53):
Where is the game?

SPEAKER_08 (55:54):
It's gonna be in Bryant at uh Merrill Green
Stadium.
So Friday night, 7 p.m.
So, man, we're we're gonna be upfor it, man.
It's a great experience for ourguys, young football team.
So, so so whatever happens onFriday, they'll be able to take
a lot from it and and you know,hopefully move on to round
three, but if not, got a lot totake into the offseason.

SPEAKER_11 (56:16):
Next thing I want to show you.
So, new to the playoff scene,which uh Anderson Trojans under
Don Donald Hatcher made it tothe postseason for the first
time in 14 years last year, uhalmost beat Laporte last year,
but lost in the by-district.
This past weekend, um, Andersonwon their second playoff game in

(56:37):
school history.
Wow.
And they beat Friendswood by apoint at House Park, and Caleb
Crenshaw eclipsed the AISDrushing record.
And the video you're about tosee is of one of their DB slash
receivers who is committed toplay for Texas.
Akina is high on him.
They call him Miami, and thenyou see Caleb's run.

(57:01):
It was very Ricky Williams-esquewhen he eclipsed the record uh
against uh Texas AM that year.
Real quick, here you go.

(57:37):
Hey, Mene, it's been fun asusual.
I love, we love how you can hita wide variety of topics.
You can critic you can criticizesomething, but give it love at
the same time.

SPEAKER_08 (57:48):
Hey man, you you kind of have to, man.
I I I I've seen out here in thisthis this this media world we
in.
I see some guys getting soft outthere and getting kind of
speculated a little bit, tightabout a certain podcast.
I don't know if they wasreferring to yours or but I put
a name on that, bro.
We keep it real around here.
Yes, 100%.

(58:11):
Hey, what did you hear?
Hey, just like they just talkingabout people saying stuff about
certain podcasts and notmentioning names.
Nah, nah, we we keep it realaround here, man.
We don't we don't duck, we don'twe don't duck smoke.
So I don't know, I don't knowwho that that that may not even
been in reference to us, but I'mjust putting that out there.
We don't duck smoke.

SPEAKER_07 (58:29):
No question.

SPEAKER_08 (58:30):
No, hey, well, we we own it.
We own it.

SPEAKER_11 (58:33):
If you're listening, if you're listening, whoever you
are, we don't duck smoke.
We don't bring it.
We want the we bring the smoke.
We don't dug it.
Hey brother, much love to theAdams family.
That's no uh, I'm not in medidn't mean any humor by that.
Yes, sir.
Uh no, yeah.
No doubt, man.

(58:54):
No doubt.
Have a good week, my brotherStevie.
We're gonna wrap up real quick.
This we may this may be therecord longest episode, and I'm
loving it.
I'm loving it.
Much love, T M A.
Only to get long as we dwindledown the season.
I'm sure we're gonna have a lotto talk about, especially if
they beat AM.
Yes, sir.

(59:15):
Appreciate you, brother, man.
We appreciate you, brother.
Much love.
We'll chat next week.
Double hook them.
Double hook them.

SPEAKER_08 (59:23):
We'll see another side.

SPEAKER_11 (59:24):
No smoke ducking.
Double hooking.
No smoke ducking, double hookthem.
Much love, MA.
Let's give some love toHardgrove Roofing.
Stevie, I see another side.

SPEAKER_07 (59:33):
Let's do it.

SPEAKER_03 (59:33):
Yes, sir.
Here at Hardgrove Roofing, uh,we try to think outside the box
to kind of get the creativejuices flowing.
So I brought in my friend StevieLee, former defensive tackle for
the Texas Longhorns.
Um, he's gonna help the teamstrategize, really motivate them
by the fire.

SPEAKER_06 (59:48):
This guy's gonna block down.
This guy's gonna block down.
You put your butt into thatguard, and that way my mic
linebacker gets free to do what.

SPEAKER_03 (59:58):
Not only are they gonna learn a thing or two.
But they're gonna also leavewith a great attitude and a
bunch of smiles on their faces.

SPEAKER_06 (01:00:05):
I'm sorry, what does this have to do with roofing
exactly?
Get out right now.
I said get out.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:16):
For me, that's what it's all about.
It's just having fun, making ouremployees have a great time.
Hardgrove roofing.
Know who's on your roof, and I'mgonna get a lot of people.

SPEAKER_06 (01:01:31):
Hey Ben, tell me something good.

SPEAKER_11 (01:01:38):
Well, the Texas high school football playoffs, that's
good.
All right, that's the end of theshow.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 (01:01:46):
That is good.
That is Texas football.
Um, Texas high school footballis uh on fire right now.
That is something really good.
I was gonna say something reallygood, really, really quick, man.
It's um it's uh the last week ofwork and it's getting getting up
to uh Thanksgiving and givethanks that we are here, we're
happy, we are able to get on apodcast and talk a lot of trash.

(01:02:07):
And um, I'm thankful for myfriends, man.
So this pre-thankful weekendweek.
Um next I'll be coming to youlive from uh Shreveport,
Louisiana, my mama's kitchen.
Hey, will you bring me a plateback?
I will, but we we did we did vowas a family not to cook too much
food on Thanksgiving becausewe're gonna wake up on Friday

(01:02:29):
morning and drive straight backto Austin to uh to go to the
game.

SPEAKER_11 (01:02:34):
Hey, I'd be grateful to see y'all there, man.
And we'll have a hot toddy.

SPEAKER_07 (01:02:38):
Yeah, no question.

SPEAKER_11 (01:02:39):
Hot toddy.
I'll tell you something good.
Back to the high schoolfootball, man.
It is I'm an Anderson Trojanthrough and through.
And to see something like thatthat that program's not used to,
and these last two years, it'sphenomenal to look up there and

(01:02:59):
see people from our era justglowing with pride.
That's good.
And because we didn't even comeclose.
We just we just we'd get acouple of wins, maybe three.
JV, we won five games.
Hell, we thought that was we wona state championship.
But man, that's great.
Texas high school footballplayoffs.
There's 29 area Austin areaschools playing that who have

(01:03:23):
advanced to the round arearound, which is round two.
It's a beautiful thing, it's thepurest form of football, and
it's beautiful, and that'swhat's something good.
And as we I'm truly thankful forthat.
Hey, for Hardgrove Roofing inthe beautiful city of
Shreveport, Louisiana,positioned geographically in the
northwest part of Louisiana.

(01:03:43):
There, it's the home of StevieLee and his beautiful family.
Hello to Mama Lee, and uh, I'lltake uh some giblet gravy and
her homemade stuffing anddressing and uh whatever else
that she may have.
Uh, and I'll give her, I'll giveyou guys at least some pie.
I'll make a pie for you guys andto Nackyochis and all of East
Texas and all of you watching,and to the Stephen F.

(01:04:06):
Austin, the uh South andConference football champions
and the Anderson Trojansbi-district champions and all 28
other bi-district champions fromthe great city of Austin in the
area around us in the hillcountry and to the south and the
east, and to all of you whowatch this and making this great
and putting up with us forperhaps our longest episode in
stories inside the man cavehistory, in addition to the

(01:04:28):
three-hour live that Stevie andI put together for it back in
August.
Hey, we love you for it, andlast but certainly not least, to
the OG Man Cave boys, that manHarbaugh Harsh, Big Mike, and
Knee Coach Mo.
What do we tell him, Stevie Lee?

SPEAKER_07 (01:04:44):
We out.
You see the JP.
I'm in my car in a gide.

SPEAKER_02 (01:04:51):
I said get out.