August 24, 2023 • 41 mins
Join Kristelle and Jace in this electrifying episode of Stories, Success and Stuff, where community and success collide, and where you'll discover how to unlock your potential through the bonds you build with your community.
In this lively conversation, we're diving deep into the art of building relationships and the game-changing power of a supportive community. Whether you're chasing career dreams or personal aspirations, discover why having your community in your corner is essential for long-term success.
We’ll be delving into stories from our personal lives on how community saved one of our lives and built the foundation for this business.
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Jace (00:00):
I've said it before and I'll say it a thousand more
times as long as we continue, wecan survive alone.
We cannot thrive alone.
We can't.
And that's not any personalthing.
Humans were designed anddeveloped in community.
Back in the day, we weresurrounded by community all the
time.
If I start singing in themiddle of this, I apologize in
(00:25):
advance.
Why?
Why would I start singing?
Kristelle (00:27):
Because now that song's in my head, I apologize,
you'll be talking and I'll justbe over here grooving to a goofy
movie.
Jace (00:34):
Stand out up the crowd, even if you gotta shout out loud
.
Kristelle (00:38):
I got scared there for a second because I didn't
know where that.
It sounds like it's from thegoofy movie.
I was afraid that I lost my 90scard there for a hot minute.
Jace (00:46):
I'm not gonna lie.
I was like maybe I'm the onlyone, but then when Justin was
like, he was like no, I knowwhat this?
Kristelle (00:51):
is yeah, I know what this is.
We felt like okay, I'm grounded, I'm not nuts, yeah, I'm like
really, because it came on and Iwas like okay, spotify, we all
be like that.
Jace (01:00):
And Ed asked me yesterday.
He was like, since you're thefirst one I'm seeing today, Ed
is also our DJ, in addition toour finance manager.
He was like you get to pick themusic.
What era of music do you wantto hear today?
Kristelle (01:12):
Oh, that's how what you guys were talking about
yesterday, okay.
Jace (01:15):
And I was like I don't know.
And he was like okay, and I'mlike well, what I was going to
listen to was 90s Disney hits,like I'm like going to sing
along kind of mood.
But I don't think we want thatblasting through the office.
Kristelle (01:34):
There's nothing P.
There's nothing PG 13 about aDisney movie.
Jace (01:38):
No, I didn't know everybody would want to be one
hearing it and then two hearingme sing along to it.
I mean, it's so I left it in myheadphones today and then I've
been, I've been singing allmorning.
I don't think it's like.
Kristelle (01:50):
it's not like Lullaby music or little Einstein's,
where it's like very piercingover time.
Right, I'm allowing, I'm goingto write that into the company
policy that you can sing alongmusic.
Yeah, you can sing along musicat any time.
Um, stories and success andstuff.
Today, uh, we, it's crystal.
Today we've got a J Stowney asour co-host.
A specific topic for today it'sgoing to be community, um and
(02:12):
it's impact on success Veryexcited about that and also
maybe even Disney songs andmaybe even, and maybe even um
the rise and fall of live wirethe artist.
Jace (02:24):
Oh, okay, we seem to talk about Disney or reference it
enough, because one of the AIgenerators, in going through our
episode, included Disneyreferences in the description I
had to take them out.
I was like that's not reallythe priority of this episode
robots.
But thank you.
So now we got, we have a themegoing.
Apparently it's a thing I don'tknow if you've heard about the
(02:45):
AI hallucinations.
Kristelle (02:46):
Yes, yeah, that must be.
They must have been the AIhallucination.
Jace (02:49):
Okay, so just terrifying.
Kristelle (02:51):
Disney actually has a community on itself, true story
.
Really good topic.
So we choose this topic todaybecause um very much a part of
the success of CRS.
But you have to think aboutwell, okay, so do you consider
yourself part of the Disneycommunity?
No, I would say that I'm in theperipheral.
Okay, I support my friendthat's a Disney adult.
I'm very much, we all have themin our lives.
Jace (03:14):
Oh my gosh, do we have.
Kristelle (03:16):
Yeah, okay, so tell me about yours, I'll tell you
about mine, who's your Disney,I'll tell you yours, who's your
Disney adult.
Jace (03:24):
It was an ex of mine, oh, yep, oh, and I should have known
, because I went over to hismom's house for dinner or
something at one point and thewhole kitchen they had, like the
cabinets where there's space onthe top, it was all lined with
Disney um nostalgia items, wow,and there was like all this
stuff.
There was like a whole boardthat had pins Disney pins, which
(03:47):
is apparently a thing tocollect.
Kristelle (03:48):
Yeah, it was like hot air balloons yeah.
Jace (03:50):
Yes, and there were signs all around and I was like, huh,
that's an interesting way todecorate your house as an adult
person.
Yeah, all right.
And then later in dating heleft for three weeks to do their
annual Disney trip.
(04:10):
I can understand.
A weekend for three weeks,that's a lot.
Yeah, they stay on site.
They're part of the secret cluband you get all these benefits
and, if you like, keep raisingup higher and higher in the club
.
They're like secret placeswithin Disney.
It's kind of like Scientologyin a way, like the longer you're
in it, the more you pay, likethe more special benefits you
get.
Oh man, yeah, and he was yeah,it was like a whole.
Kristelle (04:33):
So wait, wait, wait, wait, did he go to Disney World?
Jace (04:35):
or Disneyland.
That one was Disney World, Ithink.
I think they were in Orlando.
Kristelle (04:40):
Okay, yeah, but they do both.
Jace (04:42):
Yeah, but yeah, I thought that's too much Well to each
their own.
I try to live non-judgmentally,but I'm like you're going to
take all of your vacation forthe whole year to go to.
Kristelle (04:52):
Disney.
So I, so my Disney adult is oneof my bridesmaids, fiya,
amazing woman, and I'm I'mactually very supportive of the
Disney adult and I actuallystarted to follow some of the
Instagrammers that are Disneyadults, like I found out that
they had a jalapeno stuffed corndog before because of the
(05:15):
Disney adult culture.
It's a culture, 100% culture.
And what was really cool aboutFiya like she, I see it as her
happy place and I get it becausewhen we went after the pandemic
because it was super cheap togo you know, very careful, you
had to be very careful, ofcourse, but it's super cheap to
go and all the hacks and andfinding it and enjoying
everything with her it was.
(05:35):
It was probably one of the bestDisneyland experiences I've
ever had.
But the one thing I thought wasreally cool she knew the
ultimate Easter egg, that it'sthe ultimate VIP experience.
That was like the last thing onher list, cause every, every
Disney adult has like if I don'tknow why we're talking about
super community, but I promise II am like.
Jace (05:51):
I gotta know.
Kristelle (05:54):
So at the end of this massive list, she wanted to go
to a place called 21 Royals Yep,have you heard of it?
Okay, 21 Royals is like theupper echelon of VIP status,
Right and so and I gigglebecause it sounds ridiculous but
when, like, I actually wentthrough this Instagram rabbit
hole, looking at 21 Royals, theengineer who runs the place is
(06:17):
like one of the sweetest guysyou'll ever meet, that you feel
like you want him as your nextdoor neighbor.
And then at 21 Royals they havethe 12, the 12 person like 10
course meal, and she went with12 people.
Those are her friends for lifenow.
Yeah, Right.
They'll never forget thisexperience and they're in Walt
Disney's, like the experiencesand the memories that she
enjoyed at 21 Royals.
I was just living sovicariously through her.
Jace (06:39):
It was crazy.
I can always get behind a bigmeal, but what it takes to get
there is a lot.
Kristelle (06:48):
Oh yeah, she had her curls, like she curled her hair
just to make sure she lookedperfect.
And she looked perfect, perfectfor 21 Royals.
Jace (06:54):
Well, I mean even to get access to that, you I mean you
have to like dedicate life tobeing part of that, like the
amount of times you have to go,the things you have to collect,
the stuff you have to do, themoney that goes into it.
Yeah, there is something to besaid about investing in
something you're passionateabout, and I think that is
indeed where community comes inmind.
Kristelle (07:15):
Yeah, there was a whole point to all this.
You don't bring it back around.
Jace (07:17):
You don't bring it back around Not just to admit like hi
, I'm Jason, I'm a Disney adultenabler, Like that's.
Kristelle (07:22):
You might.
Yeah, it could be the enabler.
No, there's very much a thoughtabout it.
So what is the definition ofcommunity?
Jace (07:30):
Right.
What is the definition?
Hit me with it.
Kristelle (07:33):
So let's take a look at the Disney adult culture,
right, Okay?
And the community itself.
It's the shared experiences,the shared memories, bringing
something back to your values,which is joy.
Joy and happiness is very mucha Disney virtue, if you will.
Jace (07:47):
I can do that.
Kristelle (07:49):
And also, what is the common bond?
I always go back to what is thecommon bond, yes, and for them
it's the mouse.
The mouse is the common bondbehind all of them.
They might not necessarily behugging all the characters or
know all the dance moves to theentire parade, if you will, but
it's a really fascinatingculture if you think about it.
And the culture cultures aredefined by, in my opinion, three
(08:13):
things.
Cultures are defined bylanguage, by traditions, whether
that be music, food, in art,and then it's also defined by
culture, like the tone, thefeelings, et cetera, and that's
why I think Disney adults havetheir own culture which is why
they have such a great communityto begin with.
Jace (08:32):
And I think there's shared agreements, which I'm gonna add
into the definition ofcommunity Shared agreements.
So, in that space, everyone hasagreed to hold space and time
for make-believe, which mightsound silly or sad or whatever,
but it's not.
It's beautiful.
Yeah, because that's whatDisney is.
It's make-believe, it's thefairy tale, it's the happily
(08:53):
ever after, though they'reswitching that, which I
appreciate.
Kristelle (08:56):
Yeah, and then you got Marvel.
Because you know they needed abadass woman flying through the
universe, they missed Marvel.
Boom, Captain Marvel, CaptainMarvel Don't sound great her
title, oh sorry, jeez.
Jace (09:06):
She earned the title.
Sorry so, but they've allagreed we're gonna set this time
aside to come and wear theprincess dress, or whatever it
is Disagreting.
Yeah, it's a thing I will say,I will admit.
Years ago, at a holiday event,the community my sister's part
of did this huge event for thefamily and they had a whole
princess makeover room withDisney princesses that they had
(09:30):
hired oh my God, yes, and youcould go in and do all of these
things, and one of them wasBelle, who is my favorite.
Disney princess in fact, everynow and a month, give me a woman
who loves to read and does notneed your ass around, like, yes,
please, thank you, disneyprincess, like that's my fave.
And so she was there.
And so my mom and I arestanding in line to get a
(09:50):
picture with Belle and we get upto the front of the line and
she welcomes us and she'slooking around for our child
that is clearly there to take apicture with her.
And I said no, no, it's just us.
And she was like, oh, okay.
And I was like, no, no, I knowyou're not really Belle, but I
(10:11):
still want a picture with you.
And so my mom and I have apicture with a like semi
uncomfortable looking Belleimpersonator.
That's so funny.
I'm like why do I have to growup?
Why do I?
Kristelle (10:22):
Why I have to grow up .
That's a common question askedin community right.
Jace (10:27):
Why do we have to grow up?
And they've decided we don't,not for this, not when we're in
this space, not when we'resharing.
This time we don't have to.
You can prioritize fun and joyand silliness.
So yeah, the shared agreements,common language, common
language, shared tradition,shared values right, okay, so
let's think about moving asideDisney.
(10:48):
Let's put that in its mouseears right here we better,
because if we talk about it muchlonger, we might have a lawsuit
of some kind.
They are very litigious.
Kristelle (10:56):
No, they're gonna be proud about the fact that we're
talking about them.
I would hope so, so I alwayslike to refer back to the
Albuquerque business community.
I know that sounds very oh yeah, that's like a business podcast
.
Like type of speech.
Jace (11:10):
No, no, no, they've been important?
Kristelle (11:11):
Oh, 100%.
So it's the story of CRS.
So, 2014, in November, I wokeup on my ex-boyfriend's couch
and I said I just fucking quitmy job and a stable pay.
This is the day.
This is the first day of my newlife and what I didn't
anticipate.
Out of sale, like I rememberthe grind right, I knew I had to
(11:35):
grind it out.
I knew I had to sell my ass off.
I knew I had to make sure I hadto sell my ass off.
Like it was hard.
You can get all you want, man,but that was really hard at the
beginning and then executing thequality of work was really hard
at the beginning and so Iremember sitting also.
Jace (11:51):
Sorry, you just slide right off.
Kristelle (11:52):
Yeah, yeah, it's just slide right off.
We're just, like you know,laying back on my ex-boyfriend's
couch, which was notcomfortable, by the way.
Jace (11:58):
Was he your ex-boyfriend at the time?
I know that's not superrelevant to the story, but I
just kind of need to know.
No, he was not my ex-boyfriendCurrent boyfriend, now ex Yep,
but you were sleeping on hiscouch.
Kristelle (12:06):
Yeah, I was sleeping on his couch, got it and I
remember what I didn'tanticipate from that moment was
the amount of community thatcame afterwards.
So we started the company atCRSA at a fat pipe BBQ the
coworking space and what I likedabout it was that at the time
the mayor was Richard Berry RJBerry and the economic
(12:27):
development director was anentrepreneur himself, gary
Opendahl.
Very much respect those twogentlemen, and so they created
this sense of community with notonly the Albuquerque ecosystem,
but then Stu Rose and LisaAtkins created this great
co-working community called FatPipe, and I had visited there
(12:47):
once or twice.
I was only like two or threemonths old and I was like I want
to be in there, I want myvisits to be in there, I want my
desk in there, I want to gothere at 10 o'clock at night,
like this is exactly thecommunity I want to be in.
What I didn't realize was thatover time, the community ended
up being the reason why we'resuccessful today.
One of the reasons, one of themajor reasons why we're
(13:08):
successful today, is because thecommunity built us.
We went from one month withthree clients, another month
with 10 clients, the followingmonth up to 12 to 15.
Like, it was just referralafter referral after referral
and it was incredible and Iremember, even specifically so.
Last night I was going throughmy parents' photos and,
(13:30):
especially as I'm preparing forthe wedding for family photos
and then all of a sudden I cameacross this frame that broke and
it was like sitting off and itwas faded.
It was the Albuquerque JournalBusiness Outlook front page
piece of myself, robert Brown,caleb he also goes by Caleb REV
(13:50):
Hill and Donnell Lucero from ourteam.
The four of us were on thecover as Albuquerque's young,
new ecosystem, businessecosystem.
It was so cute and I don't havethe original copy.
I mean the original copy hadfaded.
But what was really cool aboutthat was like that was when we
first started, that was ourcommunity and the community
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reflected it in that businessoutlook.
And so that's why I was like,okay, we have to talk about
community, because, businessowners, sometimes we forget
about how much the communitybuilt us.
I think that's huge to takeinto consideration whenever you
think about what made you get towhere you are.
It's not just your team members, it's not just you, it's the
community that built you.
Jace (14:31):
Yes, I love that.
And you bring up a really goodpoint where you intentionally
sought out the community thatyou wanted to be a part of.
That would align you with youridea of success.
You got to know them a littlebit, you were checking them out.
You were like I wanna be inhere with you people and what
y'all are doing, you people, youpeople, you entrepreneur we
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talked about.
Like we're a species, we are atyou people.
Kristelle (14:55):
We're a bunch of weirdos, you got entrepreneurs
in your life.
Jace (14:57):
Start a support group.
Like that's your in for a toughride, so you didn't just take
the people around you.
Oftentimes this is a pitfallthat a lot of us can get caught
in.
When we're striving, when we'retrying, when we're looking to
grow, is we just whoever'saround us.
We accept and we try to makethe best of it.
Sometimes we luck out.
We have super killer peoplearound us and that's amazing,
(15:18):
but it's unlikely that thosearound us are gonna perfectly
align with our goals and ouridea of success.
Kristelle (15:24):
Wait, remember.
It's also good to put peoplethat don't align with you.
I was just gonna say that.
Jace (15:27):
Those are important people for your team, but we're
talking about outside of theteam, kind of the team that
supports the team, if you will,the peripheral folks, and making
sure that those folks arearound you.
Align with what you're wanting?
And that might mean going outand finding them.
It likely will, and that couldbe for anything where you're
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wanting to be successful inbusiness.
So you go find people whoalready are or who are working
similar goals, talk to you.
Whatever.
You have the same values.
You have shared traditions.
You're making your agreementsright.
Oh, we're all gonna come tothis coworking space and we're
gonna rock it and we're gonna doour best to achieve our dreams.
Beautiful shared agreement.
Kristelle (16:08):
Yeah, and I even think about you start to build
communities around people that,while they share the common bond
, the community might not evenexist either.
Right, you might have to createthe community.
Jace (16:20):
Yeah, we talked about the.
Kristelle (16:21):
Asian business collaborative and the Asian
business community.
They've always seemed so.
They never fought against eachother, because I remember
specifically you were talkingabout one particular community
that was just like they'realways against each other.
This community, I would say,doesn't know that they're
connected or that they share acommon bond, but it's also
fragmented at the same time.
(16:41):
Positively fragmented, becauseof the 40 different countries
that make the Asian communityright.
So how do you build?
It's like a mosaic right.
It's just like a beautifulmosaic and that's what community
building is.
So I also to be back to yourpoint, too, about CR so one of
the things that I think was partof the reason why we invested
(17:04):
into having a team member,particularly Alexis I know you
have a really phenomenal role asmarketing coordinator.
Really, to talk about communitybuilding from a business
development type of lens, Ispecifically wanted Alexis to be
in this role of a communitydeveloper because I felt like it
was really necessary for us tohave somebody that can be the
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point person for the community,take donations, give donations,
have the time to volunteer onour behalf, be an excellent
representative of us also fitsthat calm, collected, cool vibe,
even though I'm not have thatcalm Balance.
Jace (17:42):
it's that harmony.
Kristelle (17:44):
I can't tell you how much time, how much I really
appreciate that balance.
But Alexis is phenomenal atreally like outreaching to the
community.
But I don't think community, Idon't think companies think
about what that communitydeveloper looks like, most
importantly small businesses.
Yes, people don't realize howmuch important it is to have the
contribution back to thecommunity, because you have to
support the community that builtyou.
(18:05):
Yes, which is what we try to do.
Jace (18:07):
You talk a lot about climbing back down the ladder
and helping bring people up andholding onto that humble
recognition that you didn't getthere on your own.
Whether we talk about up ordown the path, however, we want
to look at it, and I find thatmost small business owners, most
people that are working towardstheir dream, they're not jerks,
they're not selfish.
It's just really hard and allconsuming, and so they keep
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growing and aligning with newlevels of success, and then that
becomes the all consuming thingand there can be forgetfulness.
To actually pause andincorporate the people that
helped you get there each stepof the way, and that's something
that you do really well.
You never forget.
You do hold a sense of humilitywhere you're not like look at
(18:53):
what I've done and I know we'regonna be talking about ego in
one of our upcoming episodes, sowe'll dive more into that With
this notion like, yeah, look atwhat we've done and let's make
sure we help everyone whobrought us here.
Kristelle (19:07):
But we bring in, you bring up a really fascinating
pivot point in the conversationthough that sometimes not
sometimes you, particularlyJayce Downey have brought, who
me.
Jace (19:20):
I was like is this the Royal U?
I know actually me All.
Right, hit me with this.
Kristelle (19:22):
You've brought people together from an area where
they least expected to findcommunity right.
You know you're the addictionrecovery.
You have to talk about how likethat's a people.
Forget too that in places whereyou feel like you're alone or
places where you feel like youneed to talk to somebody, that's
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community building at its coreroot right and it's some of the
most important when you're goingthrough difficult things or
you're in an area where I can'ttell you.
Jace (19:54):
Like and I know it like, my area that I come from and
work in and speak on, is sexaddiction.
I know that makes people reallyuncomfortable, especially in our
country, but it's a thing andit's highly stigmatized.
Highly stigmatized not just theaddiction component of it, but
the recovery part of it too.
And so people end up feelingincredibly alone and you cannot
succeed in anything, includingwell-being, alone.
(20:16):
And so I get so many emails ofpeople being like oh my gosh, I
heard you speak, I saw a videoand I think I'm dealing with the
same thing, and it's like it'syou and me out here in the world
and we're the only two that areexperiencing this, and like no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
There's a ton of people, but thehardest thing in that space is
indeed community, becausethere's shame, because there's
(20:37):
fear, because there's the stigmathat's included in it, and so
there's like this notion and Iheld it too no one will ever
accept me.
If people really know who I am,they'll hate me, they'll reject
me, and so there's thisbuilt-in barrier in these spaces
where shame's involved and thatdoesn't have to be additional.
It can come from a lot ofthings that you don't believe
(20:58):
there is community.
Kristelle (21:00):
Sometimes I think, though, it's specifically in
that space.
Sometimes I think thatcommunity is more supportive
than your own family.
Jace (21:08):
Oh, 100% in areas that are hard to understand, and
addiction is one of them,because from the outside you
look insane, because you areinsane, like the actual
operating procedure that's goingon internally kind of makes you
insane.
And I remember when I firstrecognized, also in 2014.
Kristelle (21:25):
Oh yeah, those were the pivotal years, yeah
interestingly enough, in 2014,.
Jace (21:29):
I realized like, oh, there's this issue going on.
You were like 27, 28, right?
Kristelle (21:37):
I was 27?
Yeah, it's like the pinnacleyear Saturn return baby.
Jace (21:40):
Yeah, yeah there you go.
Kristelle (21:41):
There's something to it.
I was gonna say like I don'tknow, like Sailor Saturn or
something like that, like SailorMoon, there's something to it.
Jace (21:48):
Those like 20s, you're like kind of moving into who you
are, you're figuring out yourkind of big issues.
Yeah.
So and I found like, oh, thereis a community for this and so I
was gonna go check it out.
And I'm not kidding, I honestly, and I know this is super
ridiculous, but I thought I wasgonna walk into like a dank
basement with a bunch of weirdosin like trench coats who hadn't
washed their hair in like threeweeks.
(22:09):
I don't know what I was thinking, but I just had this mental
picture of like oh, people thatdo a sex addiction are like
super gross and whatever.
Kristelle (22:20):
I know it's.
Yeah, I was like what am I?
Jace (22:21):
like somehow there's like a dripping happening at all
times.
I don't know why, but that'spart of it.
It's damp, there's gonna bedampness for some reason.
Anyway, I walk into the roomand I literally just stopped and
I looked around and I thought,oh, I'm in the wrong place,
because it was just everydaypeople your neighbor, your
doctor, your grandma.
Oh wow, it just was everydaypeople and I literally was like
(22:45):
gonna, like awkwardly, walkbackwards and they were like no,
no, you're in the right place.
Cause they knew they're like,yeah, we see your face there and
we see what's going on.
They're like you're in theright place.
And so I weirdly sat down andit was so uncomfortable I didn't
you know.
I was like just at my absolutelast resort.
That was like we're gonnasuicide.
And I listened to these peopleand I realized they're going
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through the same Something thatI thought was completely my own,
a suffering, only I don't wasshared, and I didn't.
I still thought but I'm worse,y'all don't actually know Like,
and everybody thinks this.
It's embarrassing how clichethis is.
We all think, well, no, but I'mthe worst one.
And what I found there wasacceptance, no matter what.
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I got to be a total mess, I gotto be flawed.
I got to try again.
I got to follow my face when Ileast thought I deserved love
and acceptance.
They gave it to me anyway.
That's what community is.
It saved my life?
Yeah, 100%.
And in fact, we just gonna cryin every episode.
Kristelle (23:51):
Now it's gonna be our new thing.
Jace (23:52):
I got a text message a couple of days ago from a man
who our sobriety dates are oneday apart.
Oh, that's sweet.
And so we always shared a bondwhile we were in this community
because we would celebrate rightat the same time.
So for years we shared thisbond and we just physically this
, knowing that we were likebrother and sister in this.
(24:13):
And I got to know his wife andlike they're just wonderful
people and we were both veryinvolved in this community.
And then I left the community.
It wasn't aligned with meanymore.
I left Austin.
Once I stepped out of thecommunity, I lost touch with a
lot of people and I got a text acouple of days ago from him and
his wife and I said, hey, wewere talking about you over
(24:36):
dinner.
We've been thinking a lot aboutyou and we figured, you know
it's been three years sincewe've talked to Jayce.
Oh, wow, how are you doing?
Yeah, how's life?
We hold you in our heartsalways.
You're so important to us, likeit was so, so sweet, it just so
like, even though I left thecommunity and what, like they're
(24:58):
still love there for me.
Kristelle (25:00):
Yeah, but that's a perfect example, though you
didn't leave the community, Iphysically left, you physically
left yeah, but mentally you'restill very much a part of it and
you always will be a part of it, like what my?
Spirit is there.
Jace (25:15):
Oh 100%.
Kristelle (25:16):
Right, and when we talk about eventually we're
going to talk about identity,right?
I think communities shape yourways of friending people.
People keep in close to you,people that you keep at a
distance, people that if you seethem again after five years
it's nice to catch up with them,right?
(25:37):
You get that text message, Ithink, very sweet, very genuine
conversations or text messagesor whatever it is like, that
exemplify what a beautifulcommunity is.
Along the same lines, there wasa I think you've returned that
there was a person that I hadstarted to meet.
(25:58):
Some of you know that I'm Ilike to crew for hot air
balloons and very muchunderstanding a little bit more
about the community in variousdifferent ways, because of from
crewing, from sitting on theboard the Quad A, one of the hot
air ballooning associations.
One guy said to me hot airballooning saved my life.
(26:19):
And I said what you mean.
Jace (26:22):
It risks your life.
Kristelle (26:23):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, you put yourself in the basket.
Jace (26:26):
You go like 9,000 feet, like how did they do this?
Kristelle (26:28):
And they're just like ooh the wind, it was.
It was his escape and I won'tshare too much of a story out of
sake of his privacy.
but that's an example of storieslike that that you never know
what brings you joy, what bringsyou happiness, what brings you
peace, and it can be yourcommunity, it can be your tribe
or your group of people and youbecome friends, you become
family, like at the wedding mywedding.
(26:50):
There are probably going to befive different communities in
that room at that museum becauseof the various different
communities I stay in, like thehot air ballooning community,
the business community, the CRas a family, then my family and
my family friends, and thenSpencer's family, spencer's
(27:12):
family and then the kickballcommunity.
That kickball community isdefinitely a should show in more
ways than one, in a great way.
Jace (27:19):
I was gonna say in wonderful ways, in wonderful
ways.
Kristelle (27:20):
Yeah, like communities just really define a
person, define a person.
They do.
Jace (27:26):
They help define and they help us find our own definition.
I think good communities allow.
They allow us to be where we'reat.
They allow us to be who we are.
They allow us to figure it out,allow us to stumble and pick
ourselves back up, allow us totry on different versions of who
we are, Because if we're doingit right, we're continuously
(27:46):
growing.
I don't know, there'll be atime where I'm like and the end,
this is who I am and the endand you're welcome.
And this is it.
Yeah right, like I guess death,I don't know, and then who
knows after that, but they allowthat space.
So I think that safetycomponent, where you get to be
who you are, whatever that means, that is the greatest gift
(28:10):
anyone can give us, so that wecan ever give anyone.
To just allow them to be whothey are.
Hell even celebrate it if yougot it in ya.
Kristelle (28:17):
Yeah, so one of the aspects of community I wanted to
kind of talk about was what isthe importance of reputation in
the community?
And the reason why that's so.
I wanna pinpoint that for aminute.
Jace (28:32):
Yeah.
Kristelle (28:33):
Because I remember I talked about this in a previous
episode like I didn't tell thehotter ballooning community that
I own my own business.
That's right.
I was just a normal gal thatwould show up in a Ricky Bobby
T-shirt with a couple gloves.
I swear to God, that's what Iwould do.
I never drove B my Camarobecause I didn't want them to be
like oh, this bitch has money.
(28:53):
I wanted them to have a certainperception of me, which is the
true perception of me.
Jace (28:59):
I was like are you saying the Subaru is your spirit
vehicle?
My Subaru is not only my spiritvehicle.
Kristelle (29:06):
it's the one that can actually chase, go through dirt
.
Yeah, I can chase with it.
Jace (29:10):
True straw yeah, my extra is definitely my spirit vehicle,
for sure 100%.
Kristelle (29:18):
So in that instance, what is the importance of
reputation in a community?
I want to hear your thoughts onthat.
Jace (29:23):
I am just I'm finding I'm immediately swapping the word
reputation for integrity.
Kristelle (29:28):
Yeah, oh, that's not.
I think that's not a swap,that's like a synonym.
Jace (29:33):
Or direct yeah, like that's what I'm hearing.
Kristelle (29:34):
It's like peanut butter and jelly.
Jace (29:36):
Those are very different things.
They hold very differentpurposes in life.
Please explain they're meant tobe together.
I'm not putting jelly on mypeanut butter and banana
situation, did everybody just Ha, ha, ha, ha ha.
We've come to an impasse.
Kristelle (29:50):
This is the end of the story.
Oh no, it's just that we brokeup.
Jace (29:53):
Good night, one of us did not make it past this episode.
I'm gonna get down on a goodjelly.
Ha ha, ha ha.
I don't think they have to gotogether.
I'm so embarrassed I didn'teven know this.
Anyways, so we think aboutintegrity and reputation.
Kristelle (30:08):
Ha, ha, ha ha ha.
Peanut butter and jelly and abanana.
Jace (30:11):
I don't want any of that situation For me.
I want to make sure that who Iam in the community is who I am
outside of the community, is whoI am in my regular life, like I
don't want to hide any of thethings where I might show.
Obviously, if I'm in aprofessional setting, no, I
probably will still singPowerline as I was doing.
Kristelle (30:30):
I would see that I was like yeah.
Jace (30:31):
I want to have a present, but I can bring the different
versions of myself that are notdifferent.
So for me my reputation isimportant.
That people go oh yeah, that iswho she is Like.
When we had our intern with usa couple of weeks ago for
recording, she told meafterwards and it was like ah,
this is success for me.
She was like you're the same oncamera as you are off camera.
(30:57):
But she was really surprised andI was like yep, and she's like
and you and Crystal just talk oncamera, like you talk off
camera and I'm like yeah, mm-hmmyeah, what are we gonna be like
?
And now I don't even know howto be professional Like I don't
know how to do this.
I'm Ron Burgundy and not yes,and thank you for joining us.
I need to do the Captain Morganstance for some reason is what
(31:18):
my brain's telling me.
Like, I can't kick my leg upthat high in this.
But anyway, that was reallyimportant to me because my
reputation aligns with myintegrity and someone from the
outside went huh, so you're justthe same everywhere.
And I'm like mm-hmm, yep,pretty much so.
For me, that's the importanceof reputation.
Kristelle (31:36):
Yeah, no, there's a couple of people even that they
have been to the podcast.
They're grateful to those folks.
Besides their moms, I don'tthink my mom has been to it.
Jace (31:46):
Girl's busy yeah, mine is too.
Kristelle (31:48):
She's telling stuff going on.
Our moms don't even listen, andthey said the same thing too.
It's like oh no, it sounds likeyou, that's very much you.
And I think, from the reason ofreputation like obviously being
in public relations reputationis a big major factor into the
success of certain outcomesright.
(32:08):
Depending if you're doing acrisis or not a crisis, and so I
find it very fascinating to methat I very much.
I put a lot of pressure onmyself to make sure my
reputation is solid.
And there's a lot of mistakesthat I've made that I beat
myself up because of themistakes that I made that have
hurt my reputation, thereputation of the agency, in
fact, because let's face it likeI very much understand the
(32:32):
responsibility of my last nameon the wall and I need to make
sure that I tell the team and Iinstruct the team, that how they
treat our clients should be howI treat I would treat the
client right, and so thatreputation in business, or in
our business community, isincredibly important, incredibly
important, even with peoplethat seem like, oh well, I don't
(32:56):
really interact with clients, Idon't really interact with
certain people and I'm like,okay, you're still a reflection
of CRs.
Jace (33:04):
Always.
Kristelle (33:05):
And, most importantly , a reflection of you.
I hired you because you're agood person, not just the skill
set but, like I would definitelylike go up to bat for you.
You know, take a bullet for you.
Like I'm not gonna.
I don't wanna be surroundedaround people I'm sure you don't
either that are assholes.
Jace (33:21):
You're like I just wanna punch you in the throat.
Yeah, no, no, no, no, no.
Kristelle (33:25):
God, no, no, no.
That was really relieving tosay too.
Like you just don't wannasurround yourself around
negative people, right?
Everybody here is a genuineperson at the company.
Yes, well, even if they're likea joking asshole or a lovable
asshole, that's totallyacceptable here If that's who
you are and you're gonna own it.
Jace (33:42):
Yeah, also fine.
One of my most respected peopleI've ever worked for.
He was an asshole, but hedidn't apologize for it and it
wasn't personal, he just calledit how it was.
He did not sugarcoat things andI was like I liked that you
always knew where you stood withhim.
So if that's, who you are alsofine.
You get to be part of it too.
Kristelle (34:01):
But you're aware of it.
It brings up a good point too.
Every community has a cast ofcharacters.
And there's always a cast of acharacter that's like the token
ass they're really sweet one.
There's always the follower,there's always like it's always
a really fascinating, you knowdynamic whenever you put a
community together.
Jace (34:18):
I'm immediately wondering in our team who's who.
Kristelle (34:22):
So that's a well, we'll do a squad podcast part
two A squad cast, A squad cast.
Jace (34:32):
Yes, got it in there.
Kristelle (34:35):
Well, yeah, so we talk about, you know, serving
the community, how important itis.
We talk about reputation.
Yeah, we talked about givingback down to the latter.
You have a really good,important part to self mastery
how important that is wheneverit comes to building a community
.
Talk about that for a minute.
Like what?
In terms of succeeding, interms of finding who you are,
(34:58):
the definition of yourself, theidentity of yourself, can you do
it without a community?
Jace (35:02):
Absolutely not Easy answer , you know, and the name is a
little sounds like acontradictory self mastery.
We are indeed mastering theself, and that cannot be done
alone.
I've said it before and I'llsay it a thousand more times as
long as we continue, we cansurvive alone.
We cannot thrive alone.
Kristelle (35:22):
Yeah.
Jace (35:23):
We can't Not any personal thing.
Humans were designed anddeveloped in community.
Back in the day, we weresurrounded by community all the
time.
We lived in smaller communities, certainly, which made them
very personal, but we learned,cried, laughed, celebrated, did
our triumphs, did our trials.
(35:43):
We did everything in communityand it is how we are designed,
it's how we've evolved.
And now, with the way that ourlives are set up in the world
and we have gone into littlebaby units of just you and your
family, or you and your spouseor whatever, like not you but
just the world, we've cut outthe community component.
And then we're like why are westruggling?
(36:05):
Why are things so difficult?
Why is disease up?
Why are we more suffering thanever?
And it's like, well, we'vetaken something very natural and
cut ourselves off from it.
You want to thrive, have anintentional community around you
that is in service to you, justnaturally by who's involved in
the community and that you'revery intentionally in service to
(36:26):
.
Kristelle (36:27):
So you bring up a point.
Let's talk about our 30s for asecond.
Hear me out, I love my 30s.
Oh, I fucking love it.
I thought I loved my fucking20s.
Jace (36:38):
I love my 30s.
I'm grateful for my 20s.
I agree for my 20s too.
I know that I love that, butI'm grateful.
Kristelle (36:44):
So, in our 30s, a lot of my friends, a lot of my
family, they're starting to nest, just like I am.
They might have nested a littlebit sooner, especially if they
have a kid.
They get married me gettingmarried and having a kid in a
very different timeline, but Inoticed there's a couple of our
friends that I noticed they'renot really surrounding
themselves around a community,or maybe I just don't see their
(37:07):
sense of community.
You brought up a really goodpoint.
I worry about them.
Yes.
Jace (37:13):
Yes, right, anyone who does not have some involvement
in a community is a red flag tome.
If I'm meeting someone, I'llhear them out, I'll hang for
sure there might be reasons forthat.
There usually are.
Kristelle (37:26):
Like they might not be self-conscious, they might
have problems in their lives.
I noticed that the people thatresurrect themselves out of bad
relationships, they throwthemselves into a community that
they've never been in before orthey're looking to join, and
when they start to join thosespaces, they come alive.
Jace (37:48):
Thriving.
Yeah, you've got to do it incommunity, and we have
scientific research behind us,which I love.
I'll take anecdotes all daylong.
There's proof there too, but weactually study this now and we
see it in the homeless peopleexperiencing homelessness
population, where we're lookingto make big change, and even in
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multi-generational change.
The programs that are successfulinvolve community, so it's not
just about having a home forsomeone.
That's super important to beinghealthy and successful is
having somewhere safe yes, 100%,but that has never been the
solution and they've tried ithousing vouchers and all these
things.
And then the problem just keepscoming back around.
(38:30):
And what they're finding, whatthey're testing and have proof
around programs like theJeremiah program or Hope Village
here in town is community hasto be a part of it for real
change to happen and to stick.
So it is required now, in theseholistic programs that are
working to end homelessness andto end the cycle of generational
(38:51):
poverty, it is required thatyou are part of the community.
They have community events,they have community learning and
they have everything developedaround the community there,
because it is the only way thatthey have shown consistent
success with making huge lifechanges.
Wow, yeah.
Kristelle (39:08):
Wow, that's very powerful.
Yeah, community changed lives.
Yay, be in community.
Yeah, be in community for sure.
Jace (39:16):
Only, genuinely only way to succeed.
Kristelle (39:19):
Yeah, I think that's a really good founding element
or ending element, though I dowant to summarize what we talked
about today, like we talkedabout climbing down the ladder
Super important to success,something that we believe in
here.
Jace (39:35):
It's.
Kristelle (39:35):
Yorza, being in service to the community for
sure.
Being in service to thecommunity.
It's really difficult tosucceed, impossible.
The story of the homelessnessand just the thought of looking
at individuals that might not bein a community.
Very important reputation, sucha big thing, yep, in terms of
building community or, as yousaid, integrity.
Yeah, sands, peanut butter andjelly.
(39:57):
We're going to have to talkabout that offline.
Jace (40:03):
I was like my life can't be Sands Peanut Butter, because
at least 30% of my diet isliterally peanut butter on a
spoon.
Not kidding Girls are real lazyin the kitchen.
Kristelle (40:12):
And, most importantly , how the community helped build
C Yorza and our success and wecouldn't have built and we tried
to give back to the communitythat built us.
I think that's really important.
Jace (40:21):
Absolutely.
Kristelle (40:23):
Thanks for being here with me, as always.
Thank you.
Thanks to everybody forlistening to Stories, success
and Stuff.
Don't forget to subscribe toyour favorite podcasting tool,
channels, et cetera.
Subscribe to C Yorza at Stories, success and Stuff or you can
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We are very, very grateful foryou being here.
(40:45):
Our next topic for next week.
Jace (40:47):
I was going to do a drum roll, but then Justin will get
real mad at what that does tothe microphone.
Kristelle (40:51):
Yeah, I'm going to put on the mic and here he is, I
can feel him breathing.
Jace (40:54):
I see you, girl, don't do it, don't do it, don't do it
Drum roll, please.
Kristelle (40:58):
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Jace (40:59):
That's way less cool Ego.
Kristelle (41:03):
Ego, the Beyonce song , ego.
That's the song that's in myhead instead of why I wear.
Jace (41:11):
OK, guardians of the Galaxy, character named Ego is
what came into my mind.
Kristelle (41:15):
Oh, that's a good one too.
That's really good to see.
Very grateful for you all beinghere and look forward to
joining, to having you join usnext week on Stories, Success
and Stuff.
I've said it before and I'll say it a thousand more
times as long as we continue, wecan survive alone.
We cannot thrive alone.
We can't.
And that's not any personalthing.
Humans were designed anddeveloped in community.
Back in the day, we weresurrounded by community all the
time.
If I start singing in themiddle of this, I apologize in
(00:25):
advance.
Why?
Why would I start singing?
Kristelle (00:27):
Because now that song's in my head, I apologize,
you'll be talking and I'll justbe over here grooving to a goofy
movie.
Jace (00:34):
Stand out up the crowd, even if you gotta shout out loud
.
Kristelle (00:38):
I got scared there for a second because I didn't
know where that.
It sounds like it's from thegoofy movie.
I was afraid that I lost my 90scard there for a hot minute.
Jace (00:46):
I'm not gonna lie.
I was like maybe I'm the onlyone, but then when Justin was
like, he was like no, I knowwhat this?
Kristelle (00:51):
is yeah, I know what this is.
We felt like okay, I'm grounded, I'm not nuts, yeah, I'm like
really, because it came on and Iwas like okay, spotify, we all
be like that.
Jace (01:00):
And Ed asked me yesterday.
He was like, since you're thefirst one I'm seeing today, Ed
is also our DJ, in addition toour finance manager.
He was like you get to pick themusic.
What era of music do you wantto hear today?
Kristelle (01:12):
Oh, that's how what you guys were talking about
yesterday, okay.
Jace (01:15):
And I was like I don't know.
And he was like okay, and I'mlike well, what I was going to
listen to was 90s Disney hits,like I'm like going to sing
along kind of mood.
But I don't think we want thatblasting through the office.
Kristelle (01:34):
There's nothing P.
There's nothing PG 13 about aDisney movie.
Jace (01:38):
No, I didn't know everybody would want to be one
hearing it and then two hearingme sing along to it.
I mean, it's so I left it in myheadphones today and then I've
been, I've been singing allmorning.
I don't think it's like.
Kristelle (01:50):
it's not like Lullaby music or little Einstein's,
where it's like very piercingover time.
Right, I'm allowing, I'm goingto write that into the company
policy that you can sing alongmusic.
Yeah, you can sing along musicat any time.
Um, stories and success andstuff.
Today, uh, we, it's crystal.
Today we've got a J Stowney asour co-host.
A specific topic for today it'sgoing to be community, um and
(02:12):
it's impact on success Veryexcited about that and also
maybe even Disney songs andmaybe even, and maybe even um
the rise and fall of live wirethe artist.
Jace (02:24):
Oh, okay, we seem to talk about Disney or reference it
enough, because one of the AIgenerators, in going through our
episode, included Disneyreferences in the description I
had to take them out.
I was like that's not reallythe priority of this episode
robots.
But thank you.
So now we got, we have a themegoing.
Apparently it's a thing I don'tknow if you've heard about the
(02:45):
AI hallucinations.
Kristelle (02:46):
Yes, yeah, that must be.
They must have been the AIhallucination.
Jace (02:49):
Okay, so just terrifying.
Kristelle (02:51):
Disney actually has a community on itself, true story
.
Really good topic.
So we choose this topic todaybecause um very much a part of
the success of CRS.
But you have to think aboutwell, okay, so do you consider
yourself part of the Disneycommunity?
No, I would say that I'm in theperipheral.
Okay, I support my friendthat's a Disney adult.
I'm very much, we all have themin our lives.
Jace (03:14):
Oh my gosh, do we have.
Kristelle (03:16):
Yeah, okay, so tell me about yours, I'll tell you
about mine, who's your Disney,I'll tell you yours, who's your
Disney adult.
Jace (03:24):
It was an ex of mine, oh, yep, oh, and I should have known
, because I went over to hismom's house for dinner or
something at one point and thewhole kitchen they had, like the
cabinets where there's space onthe top, it was all lined with
Disney um nostalgia items, wow,and there was like all this
stuff.
There was like a whole boardthat had pins Disney pins, which
(03:47):
is apparently a thing tocollect.
Kristelle (03:48):
Yeah, it was like hot air balloons yeah.
Jace (03:50):
Yes, and there were signs all around and I was like, huh,
that's an interesting way todecorate your house as an adult
person.
Yeah, all right.
And then later in dating heleft for three weeks to do their
annual Disney trip.
(04:10):
I can understand.
A weekend for three weeks,that's a lot.
Yeah, they stay on site.
They're part of the secret cluband you get all these benefits
and, if you like, keep raisingup higher and higher in the club
.
They're like secret placeswithin Disney.
It's kind of like Scientologyin a way, like the longer you're
in it, the more you pay, likethe more special benefits you
get.
Oh man, yeah, and he was yeah,it was like a whole.
Kristelle (04:33):
So wait, wait, wait, wait, did he go to Disney World?
Jace (04:35):
or Disneyland.
That one was Disney World, Ithink.
I think they were in Orlando.
Kristelle (04:40):
Okay, yeah, but they do both.
Jace (04:42):
Yeah, but yeah, I thought that's too much Well to each
their own.
I try to live non-judgmentally,but I'm like you're going to
take all of your vacation forthe whole year to go to.
Kristelle (04:52):
Disney.
So I, so my Disney adult is oneof my bridesmaids, fiya,
amazing woman, and I'm I'mactually very supportive of the
Disney adult and I actuallystarted to follow some of the
Instagrammers that are Disneyadults, like I found out that
they had a jalapeno stuffed corndog before because of the
(05:15):
Disney adult culture.
It's a culture, 100% culture.
And what was really cool aboutFiya like she, I see it as her
happy place and I get it becausewhen we went after the pandemic
because it was super cheap togo you know, very careful, you
had to be very careful, ofcourse, but it's super cheap to
go and all the hacks and andfinding it and enjoying
everything with her it was.
(05:35):
It was probably one of the bestDisneyland experiences I've
ever had.
But the one thing I thought wasreally cool she knew the
ultimate Easter egg, that it'sthe ultimate VIP experience.
That was like the last thing onher list, cause every, every
Disney adult has like if I don'tknow why we're talking about
super community, but I promise II am like.
Jace (05:51):
I gotta know.
Kristelle (05:54):
So at the end of this massive list, she wanted to go
to a place called 21 Royals Yep,have you heard of it?
Okay, 21 Royals is like theupper echelon of VIP status,
Right and so and I gigglebecause it sounds ridiculous but
when, like, I actually wentthrough this Instagram rabbit
hole, looking at 21 Royals, theengineer who runs the place is
(06:17):
like one of the sweetest guysyou'll ever meet, that you feel
like you want him as your nextdoor neighbor.
And then at 21 Royals they havethe 12, the 12 person like 10
course meal, and she went with12 people.
Those are her friends for lifenow.
Yeah, Right.
They'll never forget thisexperience and they're in Walt
Disney's, like the experiencesand the memories that she
enjoyed at 21 Royals.
I was just living sovicariously through her.
Jace (06:39):
It was crazy.
I can always get behind a bigmeal, but what it takes to get
there is a lot.
Kristelle (06:48):
Oh yeah, she had her curls, like she curled her hair
just to make sure she lookedperfect.
And she looked perfect, perfectfor 21 Royals.
Jace (06:54):
Well, I mean even to get access to that, you I mean you
have to like dedicate life tobeing part of that, like the
amount of times you have to go,the things you have to collect,
the stuff you have to do, themoney that goes into it.
Yeah, there is something to besaid about investing in
something you're passionateabout, and I think that is
indeed where community comes inmind.
Kristelle (07:15):
Yeah, there was a whole point to all this.
You don't bring it back around.
Jace (07:17):
You don't bring it back around Not just to admit like hi
, I'm Jason, I'm a Disney adultenabler, Like that's.
Kristelle (07:22):
You might.
Yeah, it could be the enabler.
No, there's very much a thoughtabout it.
So what is the definition ofcommunity?
Jace (07:30):
Right.
What is the definition?
Hit me with it.
Kristelle (07:33):
So let's take a look at the Disney adult culture,
right, Okay?
And the community itself.
It's the shared experiences,the shared memories, bringing
something back to your values,which is joy.
Joy and happiness is very mucha Disney virtue, if you will.
Jace (07:47):
I can do that.
Kristelle (07:49):
And also, what is the common bond?
I always go back to what is thecommon bond, yes, and for them
it's the mouse.
The mouse is the common bondbehind all of them.
They might not necessarily behugging all the characters or
know all the dance moves to theentire parade, if you will, but
it's a really fascinatingculture if you think about it.
And the culture cultures aredefined by, in my opinion, three
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things.
Cultures are defined bylanguage, by traditions, whether
that be music, food, in art,and then it's also defined by
culture, like the tone, thefeelings, et cetera, and that's
why I think Disney adults havetheir own culture which is why
they have such a great communityto begin with.
Jace (08:32):
And I think there's shared agreements, which I'm gonna add
into the definition ofcommunity Shared agreements.
So, in that space, everyone hasagreed to hold space and time
for make-believe, which mightsound silly or sad or whatever,
but it's not.
It's beautiful.
Yeah, because that's whatDisney is.
It's make-believe, it's thefairy tale, it's the happily
(08:53):
ever after, though they'reswitching that, which I
appreciate.
Kristelle (08:56):
Yeah, and then you got Marvel.
Because you know they needed abadass woman flying through the
universe, they missed Marvel.
Boom, Captain Marvel, CaptainMarvel Don't sound great her
title, oh sorry, jeez.
Jace (09:06):
She earned the title.
Sorry so, but they've allagreed we're gonna set this time
aside to come and wear theprincess dress, or whatever it
is Disagreting.
Yeah, it's a thing I will say,I will admit.
Years ago, at a holiday event,the community my sister's part
of did this huge event for thefamily and they had a whole
princess makeover room withDisney princesses that they had
(09:30):
hired oh my God, yes, and youcould go in and do all of these
things, and one of them wasBelle, who is my favorite.
Disney princess in fact, everynow and a month, give me a woman
who loves to read and does notneed your ass around, like, yes,
please, thank you, disneyprincess, like that's my fave.
And so she was there.
And so my mom and I arestanding in line to get a
(09:50):
picture with Belle and we get upto the front of the line and
she welcomes us and she'slooking around for our child
that is clearly there to take apicture with her.
And I said no, no, it's just us.
And she was like, oh, okay.
And I was like, no, no, I knowyou're not really Belle, but I
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still want a picture with you.
And so my mom and I have apicture with a like semi
uncomfortable looking Belleimpersonator.
That's so funny.
I'm like why do I have to growup?
Why do I?
Kristelle (10:22):
Why I have to grow up .
That's a common question askedin community right.
Jace (10:27):
Why do we have to grow up?
And they've decided we don't,not for this, not when we're in
this space, not when we'resharing.
This time we don't have to.
You can prioritize fun and joyand silliness.
So yeah, the shared agreements,common language, common
language, shared tradition,shared values right, okay, so
let's think about moving asideDisney.
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Let's put that in its mouseears right here we better,
because if we talk about it muchlonger, we might have a lawsuit
of some kind.
They are very litigious.
Kristelle (10:56):
No, they're gonna be proud about the fact that we're
talking about them.
I would hope so, so I alwayslike to refer back to the
Albuquerque business community.
I know that sounds very oh yeah, that's like a business podcast
.
Like type of speech.
Jace (11:10):
No, no, no, they've been important?
Kristelle (11:11):
Oh, 100%.
So it's the story of CRS.
So, 2014, in November, I wokeup on my ex-boyfriend's couch
and I said I just fucking quitmy job and a stable pay.
This is the day.
This is the first day of my newlife and what I didn't
anticipate.
Out of sale, like I rememberthe grind right, I knew I had to
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grind it out.
I knew I had to sell my ass off.
I knew I had to make sure I hadto sell my ass off.
Like it was hard.
You can get all you want, man,but that was really hard at the
beginning and then executing thequality of work was really hard
at the beginning and so Iremember sitting also.
Jace (11:51):
Sorry, you just slide right off.
Kristelle (11:52):
Yeah, yeah, it's just slide right off.
We're just, like you know,laying back on my ex-boyfriend's
couch, which was notcomfortable, by the way.
Jace (11:58):
Was he your ex-boyfriend at the time?
I know that's not superrelevant to the story, but I
just kind of need to know.
No, he was not my ex-boyfriendCurrent boyfriend, now ex Yep,
but you were sleeping on hiscouch.
Kristelle (12:06):
Yeah, I was sleeping on his couch, got it and I
remember what I didn'tanticipate from that moment was
the amount of community thatcame afterwards.
So we started the company atCRSA at a fat pipe BBQ the
coworking space and what I likedabout it was that at the time
the mayor was Richard Berry RJBerry and the economic
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development director was anentrepreneur himself, gary
Opendahl.
Very much respect those twogentlemen, and so they created
this sense of community with notonly the Albuquerque ecosystem,
but then Stu Rose and LisaAtkins created this great
co-working community called FatPipe, and I had visited there
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once or twice.
I was only like two or threemonths old and I was like I want
to be in there, I want myvisits to be in there, I want my
desk in there, I want to gothere at 10 o'clock at night,
like this is exactly thecommunity I want to be in.
What I didn't realize was thatover time, the community ended
up being the reason why we'resuccessful today.
One of the reasons, one of themajor reasons why we're
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successful today, is because thecommunity built us.
We went from one month withthree clients, another month
with 10 clients, the followingmonth up to 12 to 15.
Like, it was just referralafter referral after referral
and it was incredible and Iremember, even specifically so.
Last night I was going throughmy parents' photos and,
(13:30):
especially as I'm preparing forthe wedding for family photos
and then all of a sudden I cameacross this frame that broke and
it was like sitting off and itwas faded.
It was the Albuquerque JournalBusiness Outlook front page
piece of myself, robert Brown,caleb he also goes by Caleb REV
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Hill and Donnell Lucero from ourteam.
The four of us were on thecover as Albuquerque's young,
new ecosystem, businessecosystem.
It was so cute and I don't havethe original copy.
I mean the original copy hadfaded.
But what was really cool aboutthat was like that was when we
first started, that was ourcommunity and the community
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reflected it in that businessoutlook.
And so that's why I was like,okay, we have to talk about
community, because, businessowners, sometimes we forget
about how much the communitybuilt us.
I think that's huge to takeinto consideration whenever you
think about what made you get towhere you are.
It's not just your team members, it's not just you, it's the
community that built you.
Jace (14:31):
Yes, I love that.
And you bring up a really goodpoint where you intentionally
sought out the community thatyou wanted to be a part of.
That would align you with youridea of success.
You got to know them a littlebit, you were checking them out.
You were like I wanna be inhere with you people and what
y'all are doing, you people, youpeople, you entrepreneur we
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talked about.
Like we're a species, we are atyou people.
Kristelle (14:55):
We're a bunch of weirdos, you got entrepreneurs
in your life.
Jace (14:57):
Start a support group.
Like that's your in for a toughride, so you didn't just take
the people around you.
Oftentimes this is a pitfallthat a lot of us can get caught
in.
When we're striving, when we'retrying, when we're looking to
grow, is we just whoever'saround us.
We accept and we try to makethe best of it.
Sometimes we luck out.
We have super killer peoplearound us and that's amazing,
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but it's unlikely that thosearound us are gonna perfectly
align with our goals and ouridea of success.
Kristelle (15:24):
Wait, remember.
It's also good to put peoplethat don't align with you.
I was just gonna say that.
Jace (15:27):
Those are important people for your team, but we're
talking about outside of theteam, kind of the team that
supports the team, if you will,the peripheral folks, and making
sure that those folks arearound you.
Align with what you're wanting?
And that might mean going outand finding them.
It likely will, and that couldbe for anything where you're
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wanting to be successful inbusiness.
So you go find people whoalready are or who are working
similar goals, talk to you.
Whatever.
You have the same values.
You have shared traditions.
You're making your agreementsright.
Oh, we're all gonna come tothis coworking space and we're
gonna rock it and we're gonna doour best to achieve our dreams.
Beautiful shared agreement.
Kristelle (16:08):
Yeah, and I even think about you start to build
communities around people that,while they share the common bond
, the community might not evenexist either.
Right, you might have to createthe community.
Jace (16:20):
Yeah, we talked about the.
Kristelle (16:21):
Asian business collaborative and the Asian
business community.
They've always seemed so.
They never fought against eachother, because I remember
specifically you were talkingabout one particular community
that was just like they'realways against each other.
This community, I would say,doesn't know that they're
connected or that they share acommon bond, but it's also
fragmented at the same time.
(16:41):
Positively fragmented, becauseof the 40 different countries
that make the Asian communityright.
So how do you build?
It's like a mosaic right.
It's just like a beautifulmosaic and that's what community
building is.
So I also to be back to yourpoint, too, about CR so one of
the things that I think was partof the reason why we invested
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into having a team member,particularly Alexis I know you
have a really phenomenal role asmarketing coordinator.
Really, to talk about communitybuilding from a business
development type of lens, Ispecifically wanted Alexis to be
in this role of a communitydeveloper because I felt like it
was really necessary for us tohave somebody that can be the
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point person for the community,take donations, give donations,
have the time to volunteer onour behalf, be an excellent
representative of us also fitsthat calm, collected, cool vibe,
even though I'm not have thatcalm Balance.
Jace (17:42):
it's that harmony.
Kristelle (17:44):
I can't tell you how much time, how much I really
appreciate that balance.
But Alexis is phenomenal atreally like outreaching to the
community.
But I don't think community, Idon't think companies think
about what that communitydeveloper looks like, most
importantly small businesses.
Yes, people don't realize howmuch important it is to have the
contribution back to thecommunity, because you have to
support the community that builtyou.
(18:05):
Yes, which is what we try to do.
Jace (18:07):
You talk a lot about climbing back down the ladder
and helping bring people up andholding onto that humble
recognition that you didn't getthere on your own.
Whether we talk about up ordown the path, however, we want
to look at it, and I find thatmost small business owners, most
people that are working towardstheir dream, they're not jerks,
they're not selfish.
It's just really hard and allconsuming, and so they keep
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growing and aligning with newlevels of success, and then that
becomes the all consuming thingand there can be forgetfulness.
To actually pause andincorporate the people that
helped you get there each stepof the way, and that's something
that you do really well.
You never forget.
You do hold a sense of humilitywhere you're not like look at
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what I've done and I know we'regonna be talking about ego in
one of our upcoming episodes, sowe'll dive more into that With
this notion like, yeah, look atwhat we've done and let's make
sure we help everyone whobrought us here.
Kristelle (19:07):
But we bring in, you bring up a really fascinating
pivot point in the conversationthough that sometimes not
sometimes you, particularlyJayce Downey have brought, who
me.
Jace (19:20):
I was like is this the Royal U?
I know actually me All.
Right, hit me with this.
Kristelle (19:22):
You've brought people together from an area where
they least expected to findcommunity right.
You know you're the addictionrecovery.
You have to talk about how likethat's a people.
Forget too that in places whereyou feel like you're alone or
places where you feel like youneed to talk to somebody, that's
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community building at its coreroot right and it's some of the
most important when you're goingthrough difficult things or
you're in an area where I can'ttell you.
Jace (19:54):
Like and I know it like, my area that I come from and
work in and speak on, is sexaddiction.
I know that makes people reallyuncomfortable, especially in our
country, but it's a thing andit's highly stigmatized.
Highly stigmatized not just theaddiction component of it, but
the recovery part of it too.
And so people end up feelingincredibly alone and you cannot
succeed in anything, includingwell-being, alone.
(20:16):
And so I get so many emails ofpeople being like oh my gosh, I
heard you speak, I saw a videoand I think I'm dealing with the
same thing, and it's like it'syou and me out here in the world
and we're the only two that areexperiencing this, and like no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
There's a ton of people, but thehardest thing in that space is
indeed community, becausethere's shame, because there's
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fear, because there's the stigmathat's included in it, and so
there's like this notion and Iheld it too no one will ever
accept me.
If people really know who I am,they'll hate me, they'll reject
me, and so there's thisbuilt-in barrier in these spaces
where shame's involved and thatdoesn't have to be additional.
It can come from a lot ofthings that you don't believe
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there is community.
Kristelle (21:00):
Sometimes I think, though, it's specifically in
that space.
Sometimes I think thatcommunity is more supportive
than your own family.
Jace (21:08):
Oh, 100% in areas that are hard to understand, and
addiction is one of them,because from the outside you
look insane, because you areinsane, like the actual
operating procedure that's goingon internally kind of makes you
insane.
And I remember when I firstrecognized, also in 2014.
Kristelle (21:25):
Oh yeah, those were the pivotal years, yeah
interestingly enough, in 2014,.
Jace (21:29):
I realized like, oh, there's this issue going on.
You were like 27, 28, right?
Kristelle (21:37):
I was 27?
Yeah, it's like the pinnacleyear Saturn return baby.
Jace (21:40):
Yeah, yeah there you go.
Kristelle (21:41):
There's something to it.
I was gonna say like I don'tknow, like Sailor Saturn or
something like that, like SailorMoon, there's something to it.
Jace (21:48):
Those like 20s, you're like kind of moving into who you
are, you're figuring out yourkind of big issues.
Yeah.
So and I found like, oh, thereis a community for this and so I
was gonna go check it out.
And I'm not kidding, I honestly, and I know this is super
ridiculous, but I thought I wasgonna walk into like a dank
basement with a bunch of weirdosin like trench coats who hadn't
washed their hair in like threeweeks.
(22:09):
I don't know what I was thinking, but I just had this mental
picture of like oh, people thatdo a sex addiction are like
super gross and whatever.
Kristelle (22:20):
I know it's.
Yeah, I was like what am I?
Jace (22:21):
like somehow there's like a dripping happening at all
times.
I don't know why, but that'spart of it.
It's damp, there's gonna bedampness for some reason.
Anyway, I walk into the roomand I literally just stopped and
I looked around and I thought,oh, I'm in the wrong place,
because it was just everydaypeople your neighbor, your
doctor, your grandma.
Oh wow, it just was everydaypeople and I literally was like
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gonna, like awkwardly, walkbackwards and they were like no,
no, you're in the right place.
Cause they knew they're like,yeah, we see your face there and
we see what's going on.
They're like you're in theright place.
And so I weirdly sat down andit was so uncomfortable I didn't
you know.
I was like just at my absolutelast resort.
That was like we're gonnasuicide.
And I listened to these peopleand I realized they're going
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through the same Something thatI thought was completely my own,
a suffering, only I don't wasshared, and I didn't.
I still thought but I'm worse,y'all don't actually know Like,
and everybody thinks this.
It's embarrassing how clichethis is.
We all think, well, no, but I'mthe worst one.
And what I found there wasacceptance, no matter what.
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I got to be a total mess, I gotto be flawed.
I got to try again.
I got to follow my face when Ileast thought I deserved love
and acceptance.
They gave it to me anyway.
That's what community is.
It saved my life?
Yeah, 100%.
And in fact, we just gonna cryin every episode.
Kristelle (23:51):
Now it's gonna be our new thing.
Jace (23:52):
I got a text message a couple of days ago from a man
who our sobriety dates are oneday apart.
Oh, that's sweet.
And so we always shared a bondwhile we were in this community
because we would celebrate rightat the same time.
So for years we shared thisbond and we just physically this
, knowing that we were likebrother and sister in this.
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And I got to know his wife andlike they're just wonderful
people and we were both veryinvolved in this community.
And then I left the community.
It wasn't aligned with meanymore.
I left Austin.
Once I stepped out of thecommunity, I lost touch with a
lot of people and I got a text acouple of days ago from him and
his wife and I said, hey, wewere talking about you over
(24:36):
dinner.
We've been thinking a lot aboutyou and we figured, you know
it's been three years sincewe've talked to Jayce.
Oh, wow, how are you doing?
Yeah, how's life?
We hold you in our heartsalways.
You're so important to us, likeit was so, so sweet, it just so
like, even though I left thecommunity and what, like they're
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still love there for me.
Kristelle (25:00):
Yeah, but that's a perfect example, though you
didn't leave the community, Iphysically left, you physically
left yeah, but mentally you'restill very much a part of it and
you always will be a part of it, like what my?
Spirit is there.
Jace (25:15):
Oh 100%.
Kristelle (25:16):
Right, and when we talk about eventually we're
going to talk about identity,right?
I think communities shape yourways of friending people.
People keep in close to you,people that you keep at a
distance, people that if you seethem again after five years
it's nice to catch up with them,right?
(25:37):
You get that text message, Ithink, very sweet, very genuine
conversations or text messagesor whatever it is like, that
exemplify what a beautifulcommunity is.
Along the same lines, there wasa I think you've returned that
there was a person that I hadstarted to meet.
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Some of you know that I'm Ilike to crew for hot air
balloons and very muchunderstanding a little bit more
about the community in variousdifferent ways, because of from
crewing, from sitting on theboard the Quad A, one of the hot
air ballooning associations.
One guy said to me hot airballooning saved my life.
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And I said what you mean.
Jace (26:22):
It risks your life.
Kristelle (26:23):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, you put yourself in the basket.
Jace (26:26):
You go like 9,000 feet, like how did they do this?
Kristelle (26:28):
And they're just like ooh the wind, it was.
It was his escape and I won'tshare too much of a story out of
sake of his privacy.
but that's an example of storieslike that that you never know
what brings you joy, what bringsyou happiness, what brings you
peace, and it can be yourcommunity, it can be your tribe
or your group of people and youbecome friends, you become
family, like at the wedding mywedding.
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There are probably going to befive different communities in
that room at that museum becauseof the various different
communities I stay in, like thehot air ballooning community,
the business community, the CRas a family, then my family and
my family friends, and thenSpencer's family, spencer's
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family and then the kickballcommunity.
That kickball community isdefinitely a should show in more
ways than one, in a great way.
Jace (27:19):
I was gonna say in wonderful ways, in wonderful
ways.
Kristelle (27:20):
Yeah, like communities just really define a
person, define a person.
They do.
Jace (27:26):
They help define and they help us find our own definition.
I think good communities allow.
They allow us to be where we'reat.
They allow us to be who we are.
They allow us to figure it out,allow us to stumble and pick
ourselves back up, allow us totry on different versions of who
we are, Because if we're doingit right, we're continuously
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growing.
I don't know, there'll be atime where I'm like and the end,
this is who I am and the endand you're welcome.
And this is it.
Yeah right, like I guess death,I don't know, and then who
knows after that, but they allowthat space.
So I think that safetycomponent, where you get to be
who you are, whatever that means, that is the greatest gift
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anyone can give us, so that wecan ever give anyone.
To just allow them to be whothey are.
Hell even celebrate it if yougot it in ya.
Kristelle (28:17):
Yeah, so one of the aspects of community I wanted to
kind of talk about was what isthe importance of reputation in
the community?
And the reason why that's so.
I wanna pinpoint that for aminute.
Jace (28:32):
Yeah.
Kristelle (28:33):
Because I remember I talked about this in a previous
episode like I didn't tell thehotter ballooning community that
I own my own business.
That's right.
I was just a normal gal thatwould show up in a Ricky Bobby
T-shirt with a couple gloves.
I swear to God, that's what Iwould do.
I never drove B my Camarobecause I didn't want them to be
like oh, this bitch has money.
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I wanted them to have a certainperception of me, which is the
true perception of me.
Jace (28:59):
I was like are you saying the Subaru is your spirit
vehicle?
My Subaru is not only my spiritvehicle.
Kristelle (29:06):
it's the one that can actually chase, go through dirt
.
Yeah, I can chase with it.
Jace (29:10):
True straw yeah, my extra is definitely my spirit vehicle,
for sure 100%.
Kristelle (29:18):
So in that instance, what is the importance of
reputation in a community?
I want to hear your thoughts onthat.
Jace (29:23):
I am just I'm finding I'm immediately swapping the word
reputation for integrity.
Kristelle (29:28):
Yeah, oh, that's not.
I think that's not a swap,that's like a synonym.
Jace (29:33):
Or direct yeah, like that's what I'm hearing.
Kristelle (29:34):
It's like peanut butter and jelly.
Jace (29:36):
Those are very different things.
They hold very differentpurposes in life.
Please explain they're meant tobe together.
I'm not putting jelly on mypeanut butter and banana
situation, did everybody just Ha, ha, ha, ha ha.
We've come to an impasse.
Kristelle (29:50):
This is the end of the story.
Oh no, it's just that we brokeup.
Jace (29:53):
Good night, one of us did not make it past this episode.
I'm gonna get down on a goodjelly.
Ha ha, ha ha.
I don't think they have to gotogether.
I'm so embarrassed I didn'teven know this.
Anyways, so we think aboutintegrity and reputation.
Kristelle (30:08):
Ha, ha, ha ha ha.
Peanut butter and jelly and abanana.
Jace (30:11):
I don't want any of that situation For me.
I want to make sure that who Iam in the community is who I am
outside of the community, is whoI am in my regular life, like I
don't want to hide any of thethings where I might show.
Obviously, if I'm in aprofessional setting, no, I
probably will still singPowerline as I was doing.
Kristelle (30:30):
I would see that I was like yeah.
Jace (30:31):
I want to have a present, but I can bring the different
versions of myself that are notdifferent.
So for me my reputation isimportant.
That people go oh yeah, that iswho she is Like.
When we had our intern with usa couple of weeks ago for
recording, she told meafterwards and it was like ah,
this is success for me.
She was like you're the same oncamera as you are off camera.
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But she was really surprised andI was like yep, and she's like
and you and Crystal just talk oncamera, like you talk off
camera and I'm like yeah, mm-hmmyeah, what are we gonna be like
?
And now I don't even know howto be professional Like I don't
know how to do this.
I'm Ron Burgundy and not yes,and thank you for joining us.
I need to do the Captain Morganstance for some reason is what
(31:18):
my brain's telling me.
Like, I can't kick my leg upthat high in this.
But anyway, that was reallyimportant to me because my
reputation aligns with myintegrity and someone from the
outside went huh, so you're justthe same everywhere.
And I'm like mm-hmm, yep,pretty much so.
For me, that's the importanceof reputation.
Kristelle (31:36):
Yeah, no, there's a couple of people even that they
have been to the podcast.
They're grateful to those folks.
Besides their moms, I don'tthink my mom has been to it.
Jace (31:46):
Girl's busy yeah, mine is too.
Kristelle (31:48):
She's telling stuff going on.
Our moms don't even listen, andthey said the same thing too.
It's like oh no, it sounds likeyou, that's very much you.
And I think, from the reason ofreputation like obviously being
in public relations reputationis a big major factor into the
success of certain outcomesright.
(32:08):
Depending if you're doing acrisis or not a crisis, and so I
find it very fascinating to methat I very much.
I put a lot of pressure onmyself to make sure my
reputation is solid.
And there's a lot of mistakesthat I've made that I beat
myself up because of themistakes that I made that have
hurt my reputation, thereputation of the agency, in
fact, because let's face it likeI very much understand the
(32:32):
responsibility of my last nameon the wall and I need to make
sure that I tell the team and Iinstruct the team, that how they
treat our clients should be howI treat I would treat the
client right, and so thatreputation in business, or in
our business community, isincredibly important, incredibly
important, even with peoplethat seem like, oh well, I don't
(32:56):
really interact with clients, Idon't really interact with
certain people and I'm like,okay, you're still a reflection
of CRs.
Jace (33:04):
Always.
Kristelle (33:05):
And, most importantly , a reflection of you.
I hired you because you're agood person, not just the skill
set but, like I would definitelylike go up to bat for you.
You know, take a bullet for you.
Like I'm not gonna.
I don't wanna be surroundedaround people I'm sure you don't
either that are assholes.
Jace (33:21):
You're like I just wanna punch you in the throat.
Yeah, no, no, no, no, no.
Kristelle (33:25):
God, no, no, no.
That was really relieving tosay too.
Like you just don't wannasurround yourself around
negative people, right?
Everybody here is a genuineperson at the company.
Yes, well, even if they're likea joking asshole or a lovable
asshole, that's totallyacceptable here If that's who
you are and you're gonna own it.
Jace (33:42):
Yeah, also fine.
One of my most respected peopleI've ever worked for.
He was an asshole, but hedidn't apologize for it and it
wasn't personal, he just calledit how it was.
He did not sugarcoat things andI was like I liked that you
always knew where you stood withhim.
So if that's, who you are alsofine.
You get to be part of it too.
Kristelle (34:01):
But you're aware of it.
It brings up a good point too.
Every community has a cast ofcharacters.
And there's always a cast of acharacter that's like the token
ass they're really sweet one.
There's always the follower,there's always like it's always
a really fascinating, you knowdynamic whenever you put a
community together.
Jace (34:18):
I'm immediately wondering in our team who's who.
Kristelle (34:22):
So that's a well, we'll do a squad podcast part
two A squad cast, A squad cast.
Jace (34:32):
Yes, got it in there.
Kristelle (34:35):
Well, yeah, so we talk about, you know, serving
the community, how important itis.
We talk about reputation.
Yeah, we talked about givingback down to the latter.
You have a really good,important part to self mastery
how important that is wheneverit comes to building a community
.
Talk about that for a minute.
Like what?
In terms of succeeding, interms of finding who you are,
(34:58):
the definition of yourself, theidentity of yourself, can you do
it without a community?
Jace (35:02):
Absolutely not Easy answer , you know, and the name is a
little sounds like acontradictory self mastery.
We are indeed mastering theself, and that cannot be done
alone.
I've said it before and I'llsay it a thousand more times as
long as we continue, we cansurvive alone.
We cannot thrive alone.
Kristelle (35:22):
Yeah.
Jace (35:23):
We can't Not any personal thing.
Humans were designed anddeveloped in community.
Back in the day, we weresurrounded by community all the
time.
We lived in smaller communities, certainly, which made them
very personal, but we learned,cried, laughed, celebrated, did
our triumphs, did our trials.
(35:43):
We did everything in communityand it is how we are designed,
it's how we've evolved.
And now, with the way that ourlives are set up in the world
and we have gone into littlebaby units of just you and your
family, or you and your spouseor whatever, like not you but
just the world, we've cut outthe community component.
And then we're like why are westruggling?
(36:05):
Why are things so difficult?
Why is disease up?
Why are we more suffering thanever?
And it's like, well, we'vetaken something very natural and
cut ourselves off from it.
You want to thrive, have anintentional community around you
that is in service to you, justnaturally by who's involved in
the community and that you'revery intentionally in service to
(36:26):
.
Kristelle (36:27):
So you bring up a point.
Let's talk about our 30s for asecond.
Hear me out, I love my 30s.
Oh, I fucking love it.
I thought I loved my fucking20s.
Jace (36:38):
I love my 30s.
I'm grateful for my 20s.
I agree for my 20s too.
I know that I love that, butI'm grateful.
Kristelle (36:44):
So, in our 30s, a lot of my friends, a lot of my
family, they're starting to nest, just like I am.
They might have nested a littlebit sooner, especially if they
have a kid.
They get married me gettingmarried and having a kid in a
very different timeline, but Inoticed there's a couple of our
friends that I noticed they'renot really surrounding
themselves around a community,or maybe I just don't see their
(37:07):
sense of community.
You brought up a really goodpoint.
I worry about them.
Yes.
Jace (37:13):
Yes, right, anyone who does not have some involvement
in a community is a red flag tome.
If I'm meeting someone, I'llhear them out, I'll hang for
sure there might be reasons forthat.
There usually are.
Kristelle (37:26):
Like they might not be self-conscious, they might
have problems in their lives.
I noticed that the people thatresurrect themselves out of bad
relationships, they throwthemselves into a community that
they've never been in before orthey're looking to join, and
when they start to join thosespaces, they come alive.
Jace (37:48):
Thriving.
Yeah, you've got to do it incommunity, and we have
scientific research behind us,which I love.
I'll take anecdotes all daylong.
There's proof there too, but weactually study this now and we
see it in the homeless peopleexperiencing homelessness
population, where we're lookingto make big change, and even in
(38:09):
multi-generational change.
The programs that are successfulinvolve community, so it's not
just about having a home forsomeone.
That's super important to beinghealthy and successful is
having somewhere safe yes, 100%,but that has never been the
solution and they've tried ithousing vouchers and all these
things.
And then the problem just keepscoming back around.
(38:30):
And what they're finding, whatthey're testing and have proof
around programs like theJeremiah program or Hope Village
here in town is community hasto be a part of it for real
change to happen and to stick.
So it is required now, in theseholistic programs that are
working to end homelessness andto end the cycle of generational
(38:51):
poverty, it is required thatyou are part of the community.
They have community events,they have community learning and
they have everything developedaround the community there,
because it is the only way thatthey have shown consistent
success with making huge lifechanges.
Wow, yeah.
Kristelle (39:08):
Wow, that's very powerful.
Yeah, community changed lives.
Yay, be in community.
Yeah, be in community for sure.
Jace (39:16):
Only, genuinely only way to succeed.
Kristelle (39:19):
Yeah, I think that's a really good founding element
or ending element, though I dowant to summarize what we talked
about today, like we talkedabout climbing down the ladder
Super important to success,something that we believe in
here.
Jace (39:35):
It's.
Kristelle (39:35):
Yorza, being in service to the community for
sure.
Being in service to thecommunity.
It's really difficult tosucceed, impossible.
The story of the homelessnessand just the thought of looking
at individuals that might not bein a community.
Very important reputation, sucha big thing, yep, in terms of
building community or, as yousaid, integrity.
Yeah, sands, peanut butter andjelly.
(39:57):
We're going to have to talkabout that offline.
Jace (40:03):
I was like my life can't be Sands Peanut Butter, because
at least 30% of my diet isliterally peanut butter on a
spoon.
Not kidding Girls are real lazyin the kitchen.
Kristelle (40:12):
And, most importantly , how the community helped build
C Yorza and our success and wecouldn't have built and we tried
to give back to the communitythat built us.
I think that's really important.
Jace (40:21):
Absolutely.
Kristelle (40:23):
Thanks for being here with me, as always.
Thank you.
Thanks to everybody forlistening to Stories, success
and Stuff.
Don't forget to subscribe toyour favorite podcasting tool,
channels, et cetera.
Subscribe to C Yorza at Stories, success and Stuff or you can
find more information at CRZAcom.
We are very, very grateful foryou being here.
(40:45):
Our next topic for next week.
Jace (40:47):
I was going to do a drum roll, but then Justin will get
real mad at what that does tothe microphone.
Kristelle (40:51):
Yeah, I'm going to put on the mic and here he is, I
can feel him breathing.
Jace (40:54):
I see you, girl, don't do it, don't do it, don't do it
Drum roll, please.
Kristelle (40:58):
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Jace (40:59):
That's way less cool Ego.
Kristelle (41:03):
Ego, the Beyonce song , ego.
That's the song that's in myhead instead of why I wear.
Jace (41:11):
OK, guardians of the Galaxy, character named Ego is
what came into my mind.
Kristelle (41:15):
Oh, that's a good one too.
That's really good to see.
Very grateful for you all beinghere and look forward to
joining, to having you join usnext week on Stories, Success
and Stuff.
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