February 29, 2024 • 29 mins
Are you who you think you are? Join Kristelle and Jace as they sit down with Wendy Irwin, an ICF certified coach, who enlightens us on the art of self-narrative and its crucial role in achieving happiness and success - as individuals and business owners. This episode is a journey of self-discovery, where we're sorting through the labels that comprise our identity and embracing the narratives that propel us forward. Wendy highlights the importance of fun as a catalyst for change and arms us with strategies to conquer procrastination and the paralysis of responsibility.
Ready to reshape your story? Tune in for a conversation that promises to offer a new lens through which to view the world and your place within it.
About Wendy:
Wendy Irwin is a ICF Professional Certified Coach and Coach Trainer focused on creating full-tilt unapologetic leadership with people who are ready to change the world with their talents, wisdom and genius. She believes it is never about the “how or why”, but the “WHO”. For the past 9 years, she’s made it her mission to support those who are ready to take big bold steps in their life, business, relationships and financial success.all while having a good time.
Website: wendyirwin.com
IG: @WendyIrwinCoaching
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wendyharveyirwin
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Wendy Irwin (00:00):
You're the smart one, you're the funny one, or
you're the mean one or you'relazy.
All these stories are in thiswho bag and unconsciously we
walk around just believingeverything in that bag is
supposed to be there.
To me, the secret to findinghappiness and success is taking
that who bag out, dumping it out, taking a look at everything in
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there and then putting backwhat makes sense to put them
there and then getting rid ofone of them.
Kristelle (00:30):
Welcome back to Stories, success and Stuff.
I'm very excited for today'sguest.
Today, obviously, we have Jacehere, the co-host, our amazing
co-host, the co-host.
We normally explore specifictopics about success, but we're
gonna go straight to a sourcethat we're really excited to
have.
Ladies and gentlemen, pleasewelcome Wendy Irwin, wendy,
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thank you this is where theapplause button, where we're
gonna come in really helpful.
Jace (00:55):
There are applause in your heart.
Kristelle (00:57):
I'll say it.
There's a pause right here.
Jace (00:59):
There it is yeah.
Kristelle (01:00):
So Wendy is an ICF professional certified coach and
coach trainer, focused oncreating full-time, unapologetic
leadership with people who areready to change the world with
their talents, wisdom and genius.
She believes it is never aboutthe quote, how or why, but it is
the who that she focuses on,and so, for the past nine years,
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she's made it her mission tosupport those who are ready to
take big, bold steps in theirlife, business relationships and
financial successes, all whilehaving a good time.
Most importantly, we'veactually indirectly had Wendy on
the show.
For those of you that have beenwatching the show for a very
long time, we appreciate yoursupport, but also for tuning
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into the mentor episodes.
Jace (01:45):
That's right.
Kristelle (01:46):
This is I told Jason in the previous episode.
This is an honor to have youhere, because I feel like that
mentorship episode was veryemotional, because we really
dove down to the people thatmade us who we are today.
So thank you for being such anincredible mentor to Jason and
thank you for being here.
We're really excited to haveyou on the show.
Wendy Irwin (02:08):
Well, thank you, and it's so weird to hear my
name and the word mentor in thesame sentence.
It's just bizarre, you know,because I still feel like I'm 18
.
Kristelle (02:17):
And I don't know why and it's just weird, you know.
Yeah, well, you know, it's oneof those things where we
obviously take this show veryseriously.
We also take a lot of pride inthe production and the content
and the brainstorming,everything that we put into this
.
But, as you know, like when youcare so much about a craft or
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you have a really exciting storyto tell, you're gonna do
whatever it takes to get there.
So, kind of segueing into likehow have you been able to really
define success for the folksthat you've worked with?
Like, what stories have youheard of success in the years of
coaching that you've been doing?
Wendy Irwin (02:59):
Well, it's interesting.
That question is interestingbecause I think it's changed a
little bit.
But I tell you from when peoplethe first conversation I had
with people that are like Ican't do this anymore or you
know, I've done all the things.
I got promoted to generalmanager, you know, like on SVP,
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and this isn't it right and tosee them start shifting their
whole paradigm and startcreating and crafting this life
that they want, that brings themjoy and happiness and success,
and, you know, financial successand doing it on their terms.
That I think that's to methat's who I really love working
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with, and that can be peoplewho own businesses, that can be
stay-at-home moms, that could be.
Basically, it's like here's allthe playbook I've had up to now
and it's not working right andso I want a new version.
That's all mine and that justlights me up inside Not to sound
silly, but it does.
Jace (04:07):
No, that's very fair to say, and what I'm hearing is
success for you and it seemslike for those who seek you out
really has to come with creatingtheir own version.
There's a component of it beingvery personal in order for it
to be fulfilling.
Wendy Irwin (04:25):
I think that's true , for, honestly, I think it's
true for everyone, and if theythink that it's not true, then
they're probably just kiddingthemselves, and I always say it
works until it doesn't.
That's what I usually say.
So yeah, for me it's watchingpeople have success, in getting
to use my skills and my gifts,in helping them and partnering
them with to do that.
(04:45):
Thanksvery much, gambit.
Kristelle (04:47):
I mean, it sounds really simple, but that's what I
do and that's what I reallyenjoy so, wendy, we heard a lot
about how you've influenced Jaceand mentorship and how you've
kind of crafted the message.
One of the stories Ispecifically remember was she
always wanted to be around youlike she always wanted to be
right in your circle.
Jace (05:06):
That makes me sound so creepy.
I just happened to be aroundher.
Kristelle (05:10):
What I mean by that is, like the, the leadership of
osmosis right like surroundingyourself are unsuccessful people
.
That's how you becomesuccessful yourself, absolutely.
And so I have to ask, like, whoare your mentors as you were
Guiding yourself through thisnew journey, being a former
creative Etc?
Like, who are your mentors asas you've been building your
career over the years?
Wendy Irwin (05:31):
Well, I had a couple when I was, when I was
doing your creative business, Ihad a group of women here in
Austin called the Austin craftmafia and I, if you ever want to
delve back into history, that'swhat they called themselves and
it was like, I think, sevenwomen and they all.
They were all much younger thanme, but they had crafty
businesses and they were sassyand they knew how to, you know,
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do the technology piece, whichback in like 2004, was not
something everybody knew how todo.
So I really learned a lot fromthem on how to self-promote, how
to have fun, how to be quirkyand be a profitable Creative,
which some people probably know,like the whole starving artist
moniker is is very prevalent,and they were, they knew what
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they were doing, and so that waskind of like the first bit.
When I got into coaching.
Basically, a lot of thetrainers that I worked with and
some people that in the, in theProgram that I teach now, are
just so incredible.
I mean people who just Light upa screen talking about what they
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love to do and to me, thatElectricity and that and that
energy and that verb behind itis what is what Encouraged me to
know that sometimes it's notabout just a product, it's about
how you show up and andsometimes you're the product.
Right, you might be the productand it has very little do with
you.
Know, I always say I don't carewhat they're doing, I want it,
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I don't care what they'reselling, I want it.
So that I think there's thatand in some people Could call it
the res or charisma, but Ithink that you get charisma by
being authentically you yeah, weto be authentic.
Jace (07:11):
I will admit that I just learned what that phrase and
have attempted to college agestudents.
Yeah, you used it so smoothly.
We have yet to figure out howto really like slide it in to
things.
I'm wondering if there havebeen people along your path who
maybe were not Perceived asmentors, maybe they were not
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even perceived as positive atthe time, but who really helped
you Move forward.
Maybe they seemed likeadversaries at the time, or or
enemies, oh, my goodness.
Wendy Irwin (07:43):
Well, that that's like a an origin story actually,
because you know my dad was abusiness owner oh 59, 1959 and
he was amazing as an incredibleartist and a beautiful craft,
but he had this much businesssavvy Like we ate and were
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housed and fed in spite of hisbusiness argument.
But honestly, by watching himand I don't wanna say mistakes,
I mean he was doing what hecould do right, but by watching
him I realized all the otherways you could do business and I
say that politely all the otheroptions.
Jace (08:26):
I say those are very tactful Ways, I'm talking
business.
Wendy Irwin (08:30):
And what's funny is my dad's 83 and he still works
part-time.
Kristelle (08:34):
Oh, wow, what type of business is it?
Or so, it's a crafting, he's inthe crafts, he's an automotive,
anti-automotive restorer.
Wendy Irwin (08:45):
So he does cards, he does anything from the seats
to rebuilding parts and he'sjust such an amazing craftsman
and he works really, really hardand like he's the type of
person like back in like 300years ago he would have a
sponsor, you know, and peoplewould just hire him to show up
and do things, as opposed torunning a business.
Yeah, he's incredible.
Kristelle (09:07):
So I always like this phrase, especially with other
entrepreneurs that I run into.
I always love the phraseworking on the business versus
in the business.
It's very fascinating to me.
As for you, as a coach, you'rereally the conduit for a
business owner to work on thebusiness, but your dad is in the
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business.
Like how does that?
How did you make thattransition, especially with you
formally being a creative right?
How did you make thattransition, and was that a
difficult transition for you tomake as an entrepreneur?
Wendy Irwin (09:42):
From working in the business to on the business.
I don't not.
For me, and I think part of itis just the way my brain thinks
I'm very system oriented, youknow.
I mean, like that's just me,like I think I'm one of those
weirds hybrids between engineerand creative, and so I have a
lot of yeah, I have a lot ofengineering structure, system
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background, like I couldcoordinate just about anything
by myself and but I also havethe creative piece of it.
So part of the, I think when Istarted creating my own business
and shifting from one businessto the other, it was more about
what does this business need,right?
I think that, as opposed to,everybody says you have to do
this, you have to do this andyou have to do this, and I was
(10:29):
like, well, what does thisbusiness need?
And so you kind of work fromthere, and I think for me it's
because I was solo it makes it alot easier, right?
I'm not, you know, I'm notpivoting entire business like
you might do, and how you do onething is how you do everything.
So if you keep it simple andyou really really take into
account about what a businessactually needs as opposed to
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what it should have.
You'd be surprised how easy itis to work on your business.
Jace (10:57):
That's really good advice.
That is good advice.
So when people should pay youfor this, yeah, Exactly my
thought too.
Kristelle (11:05):
So whenever people work with you and they say you
know I, you know we always lovethe stories of success, right,
that's the premise of the show.
And so when, when you'reworking with folks and you've
seen some clients, you know whatis the problem that you solve
for them, or what, what, whatchallenge did you help them
overcome?
And what you talked about, Joy,and I'll put that a pin in that
(11:29):
one particularly.
But when somebody says I thinkI'm done working with you and
it's a successful transition out, why was it successful?
Like, why do you think they'regoing to be a successful
business owner with what you'vegiven them as a gift of coaching
?
Wendy Irwin (11:44):
I think in some ways the key is clarity, like
they have a really clear idea ofwhat they want, and then,
honestly, confidence.
That's a huge piece, because itdoesn't matter how clear you
are, if you're too afraid totake the steps, then nothing's
going to come of it.
And I really want to come upwith another C, but I'm not sure
.
But I think having habits sohaving clarity, feeling
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confident and having habits thatthey feel comfortable to rely
on to build their business andbe consistent is really helpful
and it's really kind of thatsimple.
Jace (12:24):
Yeah, I'm gonna add another one in that maybe not
everybody feels they need I knownone of us should need it but
permission.
One of the things that I reallygained working with you was I
felt I had permission and that Igot to a place where I could
give myself permission to stepoutside of the mold, outside of
the prescribed life, andactually start going towards
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what felt authentic and true forme, even though society and
people around me were like nope,that's crazy, bonkers, bananas,
don't do that.
You gotta just stick with whatworks and you gotta work hard
and put your nose down and allthese really outdated notions of
where success comes from andmore power to you if that's
where yours is coming from, ofcourse, but it wasn't working
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for me and I was really unhappy.
And working with you andgaining that clarity, getting
some actual systems and toolsthat I could work with
confidence for sure, but thenjust having permission that it
doesn't have to come one way.
Happiness and success do nothave to come from one path and
it can't, because the path laidout for me wasn't my own and it
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was never going to lead me to behappy.
Kristelle (13:34):
Isn't it always great to have a testimonial in the
room.
Jace (13:37):
Ha ha ha ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha ha.
And there's the accountabilitypiece with that too.
Even as a friend, when I seeyou living your life in bold
ways and ways that are soauthentic to who you are, I'm
like oh yeah, it actually can besuccessful.
I've stayed in its nice houseright, like literally that's not
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a metaphor Like there isfinancial success that can come
from taking your own path.
And that accountability pieceis important for me as well.
Kristelle (14:04):
Well, and I have to ask, like have you ever had that
moment in your life, especiallyas a coach?
But, like self-reflection, haveyou ever had that moment where
you're like I made it.
What was that moment for youand when was it?
Where were you?
Wendy Irwin (14:20):
I don't think I've ever had that point.
I don't think I've ever hadthat moment, only because I
don't even know what that reallymeans.
I think I think for me likewhat if I were to think for
myself?
I made it like, in terms of myown terms, the fact that I teach
about something that I'm superpassionate about, is it really
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important to me?
And I always joke about thepeople that hire me.
I was like they have no cluewho they've hired, like suckers,
you know.
Jace (14:48):
Like they didn't even have a solid like this
professionally you knowprofessional person who's gonna.
Wendy Irwin (14:55):
You know mine, my manners and follow all the rules
and I was like they're gonnafind out.
Like that's my impostersyndrome is.
I am a loose cannon and whoeverhired me is gonna figure out of
an HR nightmare.
Jace (15:05):
But for me, I was like that's why some of us hired you
so Exactly.
Wendy Irwin (15:10):
And I mean we talk about our stories.
Sometimes it's like I'm alwaysin the principal's office in my
head right.
I've always done somethingwrong and go into the
principal's office and so.
But for me, feeling like I'vemade it is more about loving my
life and having that life takecare of me, and that's huge,
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Huge.
Kristelle (15:36):
That echoed in multiple different ways.
That totally echoed.
Jace (15:41):
Can I ask oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, you might not have a like
I've made it moment, but did youhave a come to Jesus moment of
your own where you recognizedthe life you were living wasn't
working, or that they were verybusy and working, or that they
were very real consequences tonot living authentically?
There was a lot.
Wendy Irwin (15:59):
There's a couple that come to mind and I feel
like and I know I mentioned thisto Jace one time we go way back
, but my first one was I hadjust had my second child and I
think I would have been 36,.
I think at the time, and I hadhad my annual mammogram and I
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got a call from my doctor andsaid you know, you have breast
cancer and that in itself, youknow, most people are like, oh
you, poor thing.
Well, my response to that thisisn't a really good time.
Do we have to deal with thisnow?
Like I have two kids, one indiaper, you know, and she was
like Wendy yeah, we need to takecare of this now.
(16:41):
So there was a couple of thingsthat came from that moment.
One is I had this knowing thatmy body was In the effect of all
the stress I had been under andthe toxicity I had been under
up into that time, and so Idecided this is no longer the
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way I want to live my life.
I want to live in moreconscious and I want to live
more aware and I want to live ithealthy.
I don't want to have a lot ofstress, and so that was that
first pivot for me, and that'swhen I started pursuing.
I left the bag you know the bagbusiness kind of started doing
its own thing, and then Istarted going into coaching and
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consciousness work and you knowall that kind of stuff.
So that was the.
That was the beginning of thebeginning.
Jace (17:34):
Speaking of bags, there's a concept I've heard you talk
about, which is the who bag.
Can you explain the who bag?
Wendy Irwin (17:43):
Yeah, so.
Kristelle (17:45):
I'm sorry.
When I read that I was at firstI like I wasn't going to say
this, but I was like, did shejust say hoe bag?
And then I had to.
I had to read it again.
Yeah, so we can also talk aboutthat later.
Jace (17:58):
But, we.
Wendy Irwin (17:58):
I joke about because, you know, a lot of
times people talk about the whoand they talk about the what and
the how and the why and allthis stuff.
But ultimately you are, you'rethe operating system right, and
so whatever you put in thatoperating system, which is I
call your who bag, is going todictate how everything operates.
And so a lot of us through life, we have this big, this big,
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you know, giant hobo bag full ofour who and some of it we've
put there.
Some of our parents put theresome students, strangers,
boyfriends, girlfriends.
You know they put things inthere like you're the smart one,
you're the funny one, or you'rethe mean one, or you're lazy.
All this, all these stories arein this who bag and
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unconsciously we walk aroundjust believing everything in
that bag is supposed to be therefor a reason, and it's only
when we start pulling thosethings out that we examine.
You know, do we really needthis two year old granola bar in
there, this receipt, or thiswadded up piece of gum, or this
Kleenex with lipstick on itwhich has things on it that no
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longer serve us?
And so really you're.
To me, the secret findinghappiness and success is taking
that who bag out, dumping it out, taking a look at everything in
there and then putting backwhat makes sense to put them
there and then getting rid ofwhat does it.
Kristelle (19:21):
So when you've coached folks with this process
this is very fascinating to me.
I consider it like home editing, right?
I get the metaphor.
And whenever you've coachedpeople through this process,
what transformational changeshave they made in their
professional, personal livesonce you've told them this oh,
wow.
Wendy Irwin (19:41):
Well, part of the things that, when we were
talking about these things isusually there's, there's usually
one or two what I call centralmessages, that kind of play in
the background all the time andit's usually, you know, like
you're not smart enough, you'renot good enough.
You know all the, you know allthose imposter syndrome kind of
messages and we call them in mycompany we call them gremlin
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messages.
But when you really take a lookat those particular messages
and who's who's in the driver'sseat if it's you or if it's the
message, and then takingownership and responsibility of
that message and changing it andstarting to shift it, a lot of
people kind of pigeonholethemselves.
And I came from three sistersand my oldest one was super
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creative and artistic, thesecond one was the pretty one
and I was the smart one, and sothose were our roles.
But that was in my who bag, butI never allowed creativity to
go in my who bag because for themost part I wasn't allowed to,
because that was, that was mysister's territory, right.
So we create and craft thesestories for years and then we
start believing them to be true,right, and there's like a small
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T truth, and there's thecapital T truth, right Capital T
truth is we exist and we haveexperiences.
Everything else isinterpretation.
Jace (20:58):
And.
Wendy Irwin (20:58):
Jason's.
Like you may exist, we may notexist.
Jace (21:01):
I mean, this might all be a simulation.
There's some proof towards it.
Wendy Irwin (21:06):
But figuring out those stories and unraveling
some of them, especially ifthey're the ones that are
getting you getting in your wayand tripping you up, Gotcha.
Jace (21:16):
How important is fun in all of this?
And I'll say it because I usedto be the serious one and now
I'm known as the fun one.
Like when people need fun ideas, they come to me and so I like
that in my who Bag.
I did not like being theoverworked serious one, but I
will claim the fun one in my whoBag.
But what importance does funplay for all the things you're
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talking about?
Wendy Irwin (21:41):
It's everything and it's what's fun for you, right?
So I'm like a huge nerd, solearning and doing puzzles,
things like that, are fun for me.
Now, that would be a headachefor someone else, but I found
when you're doing what you love,it's usually fun for you, and
so anytime people are trying totackle something that they feel
is a little overwhelming, orthat they're hesitant or a
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little afraid, I'm like well,what we make it fun and it takes
the pressure off, and I thinkin some ways it takes like a
filter off too, so then they canstart looking at opportunities
and options on how to do things.
But to me, fun is I mean,that's what fills your body with
endorphins and all the goodjuice.
So why wouldn't you do morethings with fun?
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I think stress is overrated.
Jace (22:31):
I agree.
What about the things that haveto be done Like I have to do
all of these things in mybusiness, but that they're not
fun?
Kristelle (22:38):
Like finances and everything along the just
kidding.
Yeah, how do you coach somebodyLike, for example, I'll use
myself as a potential person youwork with?
I get debilitated when it comesto working on something that
requires not so much a deadlinebut more of a.
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It's got a heavy weight on thepeople around me, but it
personally affects me more sothan the people around me, and
if I don't get it done orprocrastinate on it, I just
freeze.
So how do you navigate somebodythat doesn't want to do
something but, at the same time,they understand that pressure
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of like it has to be done rightnow?
Wendy Irwin (23:29):
Well, a couple of things.
You can just push right throughit, bite the bullet and go, but
I find that that doesn't.
It's not sustainable.
So, ultimately, what you've gotto do is you've got to figure
out, ok, what's the thoughtthat's going through your head
when you go to step into doingthat thing?
And I guarantee it's a thoughtthat's coming from that you're
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not smart enough, you're notgood enough, or I have to do
this.
So we always talk about turningthe half-twos into the
want-twos or get-twos, and so itcould be something as basic as
how can I shift this where I getto do it?
Like, what thought would helpme shift this?
Now, that's oversimplifying it,because that could be an entire
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coaching session of what goeson.
But ultimately, you gottafigure out what's getting in the
way, because you know you are asuccessful, intelligent, highly
skilled woman, that's not ageneral statement, that's about
you specifically, lady.
Jace (24:28):
Oh, I was like oh, I am supposed to write this down.
No, I'm just kidding, no, and Iget that.
Put it in there.
Yeah, yeah, put it in your.
Kristelle (24:35):
HUBag.
Yeah, put it in your HUBag.
Well, it's funny.
I was like, well, what's in myHUBag?
Like I'm thinking about it andlike you're totally right and
the creativity behind themetaphor.
To begin with, you know, likeyou said, like these people
don't know what they just hired,I'm like, no, now I get it.
Like sometimes it's just you'recommunicating in a way that
really resonates with people andit really helps them illustrate
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success.
But you know, to kind of tocrazy enough.
They're actually starting toget towards the end of our
conversation, but I want to endon a really strong note.
You know, when you look at thethings that you've accomplished
with your two kids and thesuccessful business
transitioning another one, youknow, working with your dad or
indirectly with your dad for solong, you know, at the end of
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the day, how will you know whenyou've lived that successful
life, or what if that one I madeit moment comes in and crosses
your like?
How will you know?
Or what does that look like foryou?
Wendy Irwin (25:31):
Well, I feel like that's.
I don't really feel like mylife is a destination.
I mean it's really silly.
You know it's a journey, right.
I feel like when you're presentand grateful and joyful and
living authentically in eachmoment, the end is just the end.
It's not like a destination,it's not the gold medal at the
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end.
I mean that's like saying yourlife could suck and then also
you win a million dollars anddie and you would be successful.
Like that doesn't make anysense.
Yeah, so to me it's.
I think I just go back to the,you know, having a really loving
my life and having it take careof me, and to me that success
it really is success.
And you know, having peoplecome and spit on my grave also
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is kind of sounds, kind of cooltoo, because that means I made
some impact, whether people else.
Jace (26:24):
Yes, I agree, I agree 100% .
I would like dancing on andspitting on my grave for sure no
, about that.
Kristelle (26:30):
I'll think about that .
I do want to.
Jace (26:33):
Art provokes strong emotions.
Yeah, 100%.
I hope I live like that, wendy?
Kristelle (26:38):
is there something that you think there's like a
key takeaway that you'd like tomake sure our audience a really
phenomenal audience ofsupporters of the organization,
but mostly supporters of peoplebeing successful?
Is there anything else that wemight have missed that you're
like, hey, I really wanted tomake sure that somebody hears
this message.
I'll tell you.
When you said there's no reasonto stress out, like a moment in
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me another mentor of mine,debbie Johnson, had said once
like stress will kill you.
Right, I had a moment where I'mlike I really need to rethink
that phrase, you know.
So I guess what's the one thingthat you think people take away
from whenever they're workingwith you?
Wendy Irwin (27:12):
Well, to that point , because I feel like I want to
address that as well stressdoesn't just kill you, kills you
.
It blinds you to opportunity.
Like you become so stressed outyou don't see all the options
that are around you becauseyou're so hyper-focused on
what's wrong.
Usually that's what causesstress.
So if you're able to take adeep breath or able to find that
(27:34):
joy, or find something that'sin alignment with who you really
are in order to face thechallenges.
You have the opportunities juststart bubbling up.
But if you're only focusing onthe problems, that's all you're
going to see and that's what'sgoing to grow.
And so you can only focus onsolutions.
Though, when you're not in thatstress response and I would say
(27:56):
, whatever you can do to createless and less of a stress
response whether that beself-awareness, finding what's
in your who bag, not working inan environment or in a system
that doesn't work for you all ofthose things induce stress.
So if you can decrease that,you're going to increase success
.
That's just math.
Jace (28:18):
Ooh, that's the new t-shirt.
Decrease stress, increasesuccess.
You heard it here first.
You're like a deep breath of ahuman person.
Kristelle (28:29):
Thank you.
Thank you so, so so much forbeing on the show and thank you
for sharing your wisdom, yourstories of success and, most
importantly, thank you for beinga part of not just Jace's life
but my life, because this isincredible and I really
appreciate what you've done forother professionals down the
road and I really hope to helpuplift you and help promote you.
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If people want to get in touchwith you or find more about you,
wendy and they can find you onwendierwincom,
w-n-d-y-i-r-w-i-ncom, or findyou on social media at Wendy
Irwin Coaching.
Thank you so much for your time.
We really appreciate it, wendy.
Thank you, it was wonderful.
Thank you so much, and thankyou the listeners, the viewers,
(29:13):
the podcasters, the fans orpeople who spit on our graves,
whatever that might be.
Wendy Irwin (29:19):
Do it, oh no.
Kristelle (29:22):
Thank you so much for watching this episode of
Stories, Success and Stuff.
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to showcase any type of topicsthat might be relevant in your
world.
But thanks again, Appreciateyou how many topics we're going
to be talking about today, sofull curtain, no-transcript.
You're the smart one, you're the funny one, or
you're the mean one or you'relazy.
All these stories are in thiswho bag and unconsciously we
walk around just believingeverything in that bag is
supposed to be there.
To me, the secret to findinghappiness and success is taking
that who bag out, dumping it out, taking a look at everything in
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there and then putting backwhat makes sense to put them
there and then getting rid ofone of them.
Kristelle (00:30):
Welcome back to Stories, success and Stuff.
I'm very excited for today'sguest.
Today, obviously, we have Jacehere, the co-host, our amazing
co-host, the co-host.
We normally explore specifictopics about success, but we're
gonna go straight to a sourcethat we're really excited to
have.
Ladies and gentlemen, pleasewelcome Wendy Irwin, wendy,
(00:52):
thank you this is where theapplause button, where we're
gonna come in really helpful.
Jace (00:55):
There are applause in your heart.
Kristelle (00:57):
I'll say it.
There's a pause right here.
Jace (00:59):
There it is yeah.
Kristelle (01:00):
So Wendy is an ICF professional certified coach and
coach trainer, focused oncreating full-time, unapologetic
leadership with people who areready to change the world with
their talents, wisdom and genius.
She believes it is never aboutthe quote, how or why, but it is
the who that she focuses on,and so, for the past nine years,
(01:21):
she's made it her mission tosupport those who are ready to
take big, bold steps in theirlife, business relationships and
financial successes, all whilehaving a good time.
Most importantly, we'veactually indirectly had Wendy on
the show.
For those of you that have beenwatching the show for a very
long time, we appreciate yoursupport, but also for tuning
(01:43):
into the mentor episodes.
Jace (01:45):
That's right.
Kristelle (01:46):
This is I told Jason in the previous episode.
This is an honor to have youhere, because I feel like that
mentorship episode was veryemotional, because we really
dove down to the people thatmade us who we are today.
So thank you for being such anincredible mentor to Jason and
thank you for being here.
We're really excited to haveyou on the show.
Wendy Irwin (02:08):
Well, thank you, and it's so weird to hear my
name and the word mentor in thesame sentence.
It's just bizarre, you know,because I still feel like I'm 18
.
Kristelle (02:17):
And I don't know why and it's just weird, you know.
Yeah, well, you know, it's oneof those things where we
obviously take this show veryseriously.
We also take a lot of pride inthe production and the content
and the brainstorming,everything that we put into this
.
But, as you know, like when youcare so much about a craft or
(02:40):
you have a really exciting storyto tell, you're gonna do
whatever it takes to get there.
So, kind of segueing into likehow have you been able to really
define success for the folksthat you've worked with?
Like, what stories have youheard of success in the years of
coaching that you've been doing?
Wendy Irwin (02:59):
Well, it's interesting.
That question is interestingbecause I think it's changed a
little bit.
But I tell you from when peoplethe first conversation I had
with people that are like Ican't do this anymore or you
know, I've done all the things.
I got promoted to generalmanager, you know, like on SVP,
(03:21):
and this isn't it right and tosee them start shifting their
whole paradigm and startcreating and crafting this life
that they want, that brings themjoy and happiness and success,
and, you know, financial successand doing it on their terms.
That I think that's to methat's who I really love working
(03:46):
with, and that can be peoplewho own businesses, that can be
stay-at-home moms, that could be.
Basically, it's like here's allthe playbook I've had up to now
and it's not working right andso I want a new version.
That's all mine and that justlights me up inside Not to sound
silly, but it does.
Jace (04:07):
No, that's very fair to say, and what I'm hearing is
success for you and it seemslike for those who seek you out
really has to come with creatingtheir own version.
There's a component of it beingvery personal in order for it
to be fulfilling.
Wendy Irwin (04:25):
I think that's true , for, honestly, I think it's
true for everyone, and if theythink that it's not true, then
they're probably just kiddingthemselves, and I always say it
works until it doesn't.
That's what I usually say.
So yeah, for me it's watchingpeople have success, in getting
to use my skills and my gifts,in helping them and partnering
them with to do that.
(04:45):
Thanksvery much, gambit.
Kristelle (04:47):
I mean, it sounds really simple, but that's what I
do and that's what I reallyenjoy so, wendy, we heard a lot
about how you've influenced Jaceand mentorship and how you've
kind of crafted the message.
One of the stories Ispecifically remember was she
always wanted to be around youlike she always wanted to be
right in your circle.
Jace (05:06):
That makes me sound so creepy.
I just happened to be aroundher.
Kristelle (05:10):
What I mean by that is, like the, the leadership of
osmosis right like surroundingyourself are unsuccessful people
.
That's how you becomesuccessful yourself, absolutely.
And so I have to ask, like, whoare your mentors as you were
Guiding yourself through thisnew journey, being a former
creative Etc?
Like, who are your mentors asas you've been building your
career over the years?
Wendy Irwin (05:31):
Well, I had a couple when I was, when I was
doing your creative business, Ihad a group of women here in
Austin called the Austin craftmafia and I, if you ever want to
delve back into history, that'swhat they called themselves and
it was like, I think, sevenwomen and they all.
They were all much younger thanme, but they had crafty
businesses and they were sassyand they knew how to, you know,
(05:51):
do the technology piece, whichback in like 2004, was not
something everybody knew how todo.
So I really learned a lot fromthem on how to self-promote, how
to have fun, how to be quirkyand be a profitable Creative,
which some people probably know,like the whole starving artist
moniker is is very prevalent,and they were, they knew what
(06:12):
they were doing, and so that waskind of like the first bit.
When I got into coaching.
Basically, a lot of thetrainers that I worked with and
some people that in the, in theProgram that I teach now, are
just so incredible.
I mean people who just Light upa screen talking about what they
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love to do and to me, thatElectricity and that and that
energy and that verb behind itis what is what Encouraged me to
know that sometimes it's notabout just a product, it's about
how you show up and andsometimes you're the product.
Right, you might be the productand it has very little do with
you.
Know, I always say I don't carewhat they're doing, I want it,
(06:56):
I don't care what they'reselling, I want it.
So that I think there's thatand in some people Could call it
the res or charisma, but Ithink that you get charisma by
being authentically you yeah, weto be authentic.
Jace (07:11):
I will admit that I just learned what that phrase and
have attempted to college agestudents.
Yeah, you used it so smoothly.
We have yet to figure out howto really like slide it in to
things.
I'm wondering if there havebeen people along your path who
maybe were not Perceived asmentors, maybe they were not
(07:32):
even perceived as positive atthe time, but who really helped
you Move forward.
Maybe they seemed likeadversaries at the time, or or
enemies, oh, my goodness.
Wendy Irwin (07:43):
Well, that that's like a an origin story actually,
because you know my dad was abusiness owner oh 59, 1959 and
he was amazing as an incredibleartist and a beautiful craft,
but he had this much businesssavvy Like we ate and were
(08:07):
housed and fed in spite of hisbusiness argument.
But honestly, by watching himand I don't wanna say mistakes,
I mean he was doing what hecould do right, but by watching
him I realized all the otherways you could do business and I
say that politely all the otheroptions.
Jace (08:26):
I say those are very tactful Ways, I'm talking
business.
Wendy Irwin (08:30):
And what's funny is my dad's 83 and he still works
part-time.
Kristelle (08:34):
Oh, wow, what type of business is it?
Or so, it's a crafting, he's inthe crafts, he's an automotive,
anti-automotive restorer.
Wendy Irwin (08:45):
So he does cards, he does anything from the seats
to rebuilding parts and he'sjust such an amazing craftsman
and he works really, really hardand like he's the type of
person like back in like 300years ago he would have a
sponsor, you know, and peoplewould just hire him to show up
and do things, as opposed torunning a business.
Yeah, he's incredible.
Kristelle (09:07):
So I always like this phrase, especially with other
entrepreneurs that I run into.
I always love the phraseworking on the business versus
in the business.
It's very fascinating to me.
As for you, as a coach, you'rereally the conduit for a
business owner to work on thebusiness, but your dad is in the
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business.
Like how does that?
How did you make thattransition, especially with you
formally being a creative right?
How did you make thattransition, and was that a
difficult transition for you tomake as an entrepreneur?
Wendy Irwin (09:42):
From working in the business to on the business.
I don't not.
For me, and I think part of itis just the way my brain thinks
I'm very system oriented, youknow.
I mean, like that's just me,like I think I'm one of those
weirds hybrids between engineerand creative, and so I have a
lot of yeah, I have a lot ofengineering structure, system
(10:07):
background, like I couldcoordinate just about anything
by myself and but I also havethe creative piece of it.
So part of the, I think when Istarted creating my own business
and shifting from one businessto the other, it was more about
what does this business need,right?
I think that, as opposed to,everybody says you have to do
this, you have to do this andyou have to do this, and I was
(10:29):
like, well, what does thisbusiness need?
And so you kind of work fromthere, and I think for me it's
because I was solo it makes it alot easier, right?
I'm not, you know, I'm notpivoting entire business like
you might do, and how you do onething is how you do everything.
So if you keep it simple andyou really really take into
account about what a businessactually needs as opposed to
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what it should have.
You'd be surprised how easy itis to work on your business.
Jace (10:57):
That's really good advice.
That is good advice.
So when people should pay youfor this, yeah, Exactly my
thought too.
Kristelle (11:05):
So whenever people work with you and they say you
know I, you know we always lovethe stories of success, right,
that's the premise of the show.
And so when, when you'reworking with folks and you've
seen some clients, you know whatis the problem that you solve
for them, or what, what, whatchallenge did you help them
overcome?
And what you talked about, Joy,and I'll put that a pin in that
(11:29):
one particularly.
But when somebody says I thinkI'm done working with you and
it's a successful transition out, why was it successful?
Like, why do you think they'regoing to be a successful
business owner with what you'vegiven them as a gift of coaching
?
Wendy Irwin (11:44):
I think in some ways the key is clarity, like
they have a really clear idea ofwhat they want, and then,
honestly, confidence.
That's a huge piece, because itdoesn't matter how clear you
are, if you're too afraid totake the steps, then nothing's
going to come of it.
And I really want to come upwith another C, but I'm not sure
.
But I think having habits sohaving clarity, feeling
(12:11):
confident and having habits thatthey feel comfortable to rely
on to build their business andbe consistent is really helpful
and it's really kind of thatsimple.
Jace (12:24):
Yeah, I'm gonna add another one in that maybe not
everybody feels they need I knownone of us should need it but
permission.
One of the things that I reallygained working with you was I
felt I had permission and that Igot to a place where I could
give myself permission to stepoutside of the mold, outside of
the prescribed life, andactually start going towards
(12:46):
what felt authentic and true forme, even though society and
people around me were like nope,that's crazy, bonkers, bananas,
don't do that.
You gotta just stick with whatworks and you gotta work hard
and put your nose down and allthese really outdated notions of
where success comes from andmore power to you if that's
where yours is coming from, ofcourse, but it wasn't working
(13:07):
for me and I was really unhappy.
And working with you andgaining that clarity, getting
some actual systems and toolsthat I could work with
confidence for sure, but thenjust having permission that it
doesn't have to come one way.
Happiness and success do nothave to come from one path and
it can't, because the path laidout for me wasn't my own and it
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was never going to lead me to behappy.
Kristelle (13:34):
Isn't it always great to have a testimonial in the
room.
Jace (13:37):
Ha ha ha ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha ha.
And there's the accountabilitypiece with that too.
Even as a friend, when I seeyou living your life in bold
ways and ways that are soauthentic to who you are, I'm
like oh yeah, it actually can besuccessful.
I've stayed in its nice houseright, like literally that's not
(13:57):
a metaphor Like there isfinancial success that can come
from taking your own path.
And that accountability pieceis important for me as well.
Kristelle (14:04):
Well, and I have to ask, like have you ever had that
moment in your life, especiallyas a coach?
But, like self-reflection, haveyou ever had that moment where
you're like I made it.
What was that moment for youand when was it?
Where were you?
Wendy Irwin (14:20):
I don't think I've ever had that point.
I don't think I've ever hadthat moment, only because I
don't even know what that reallymeans.
I think I think for me likewhat if I were to think for
myself?
I made it like, in terms of myown terms, the fact that I teach
about something that I'm superpassionate about, is it really
(14:41):
important to me?
And I always joke about thepeople that hire me.
I was like they have no cluewho they've hired, like suckers,
you know.
Jace (14:48):
Like they didn't even have a solid like this
professionally you knowprofessional person who's gonna.
Wendy Irwin (14:55):
You know mine, my manners and follow all the rules
and I was like they're gonnafind out.
Like that's my impostersyndrome is.
I am a loose cannon and whoeverhired me is gonna figure out of
an HR nightmare.
Jace (15:05):
But for me, I was like that's why some of us hired you
so Exactly.
Wendy Irwin (15:10):
And I mean we talk about our stories.
Sometimes it's like I'm alwaysin the principal's office in my
head right.
I've always done somethingwrong and go into the
principal's office and so.
But for me, feeling like I'vemade it is more about loving my
life and having that life takecare of me, and that's huge,
(15:35):
Huge.
Kristelle (15:36):
That echoed in multiple different ways.
That totally echoed.
Jace (15:41):
Can I ask oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, you might not have a like
I've made it moment, but did youhave a come to Jesus moment of
your own where you recognizedthe life you were living wasn't
working, or that they were verybusy and working, or that they
were very real consequences tonot living authentically?
There was a lot.
Wendy Irwin (15:59):
There's a couple that come to mind and I feel
like and I know I mentioned thisto Jace one time we go way back
, but my first one was I hadjust had my second child and I
think I would have been 36,.
I think at the time, and I hadhad my annual mammogram and I
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got a call from my doctor andsaid you know, you have breast
cancer and that in itself, youknow, most people are like, oh
you, poor thing.
Well, my response to that thisisn't a really good time.
Do we have to deal with thisnow?
Like I have two kids, one indiaper, you know, and she was
like Wendy yeah, we need to takecare of this now.
(16:41):
So there was a couple of thingsthat came from that moment.
One is I had this knowing thatmy body was In the effect of all
the stress I had been under andthe toxicity I had been under
up into that time, and so Idecided this is no longer the
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way I want to live my life.
I want to live in moreconscious and I want to live
more aware and I want to live ithealthy.
I don't want to have a lot ofstress, and so that was that
first pivot for me, and that'swhen I started pursuing.
I left the bag you know the bagbusiness kind of started doing
its own thing, and then Istarted going into coaching and
(17:25):
consciousness work and you knowall that kind of stuff.
So that was the.
That was the beginning of thebeginning.
Jace (17:34):
Speaking of bags, there's a concept I've heard you talk
about, which is the who bag.
Can you explain the who bag?
Wendy Irwin (17:43):
Yeah, so.
Kristelle (17:45):
I'm sorry.
When I read that I was at firstI like I wasn't going to say
this, but I was like, did shejust say hoe bag?
And then I had to.
I had to read it again.
Yeah, so we can also talk aboutthat later.
Jace (17:58):
But, we.
Wendy Irwin (17:58):
I joke about because, you know, a lot of
times people talk about the whoand they talk about the what and
the how and the why and allthis stuff.
But ultimately you are, you'rethe operating system right, and
so whatever you put in thatoperating system, which is I
call your who bag, is going todictate how everything operates.
And so a lot of us through life, we have this big, this big,
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you know, giant hobo bag full ofour who and some of it we've
put there.
Some of our parents put theresome students, strangers,
boyfriends, girlfriends.
You know they put things inthere like you're the smart one,
you're the funny one, or you'rethe mean one, or you're lazy.
All this, all these stories arein this who bag and
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unconsciously we walk aroundjust believing everything in
that bag is supposed to be therefor a reason, and it's only
when we start pulling thosethings out that we examine.
You know, do we really needthis two year old granola bar in
there, this receipt, or thiswadded up piece of gum, or this
Kleenex with lipstick on itwhich has things on it that no
(19:04):
longer serve us?
And so really you're.
To me, the secret findinghappiness and success is taking
that who bag out, dumping it out, taking a look at everything in
there and then putting backwhat makes sense to put them
there and then getting rid ofwhat does it.
Kristelle (19:21):
So when you've coached folks with this process
this is very fascinating to me.
I consider it like home editing, right?
I get the metaphor.
And whenever you've coachedpeople through this process,
what transformational changeshave they made in their
professional, personal livesonce you've told them this oh,
wow.
Wendy Irwin (19:41):
Well, part of the things that, when we were
talking about these things isusually there's, there's usually
one or two what I call centralmessages, that kind of play in
the background all the time andit's usually, you know, like
you're not smart enough, you'renot good enough.
You know all the, you know allthose imposter syndrome kind of
messages and we call them in mycompany we call them gremlin
(20:02):
messages.
But when you really take a lookat those particular messages
and who's who's in the driver'sseat if it's you or if it's the
message, and then takingownership and responsibility of
that message and changing it andstarting to shift it, a lot of
people kind of pigeonholethemselves.
And I came from three sistersand my oldest one was super
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creative and artistic, thesecond one was the pretty one
and I was the smart one, and sothose were our roles.
But that was in my who bag, butI never allowed creativity to
go in my who bag because for themost part I wasn't allowed to,
because that was, that was mysister's territory, right.
So we create and craft thesestories for years and then we
start believing them to be true,right, and there's like a small
(20:48):
T truth, and there's thecapital T truth, right Capital T
truth is we exist and we haveexperiences.
Everything else isinterpretation.
Jace (20:58):
And.
Wendy Irwin (20:58):
Jason's.
Like you may exist, we may notexist.
Jace (21:01):
I mean, this might all be a simulation.
There's some proof towards it.
Wendy Irwin (21:06):
But figuring out those stories and unraveling
some of them, especially ifthey're the ones that are
getting you getting in your wayand tripping you up, Gotcha.
Jace (21:16):
How important is fun in all of this?
And I'll say it because I usedto be the serious one and now
I'm known as the fun one.
Like when people need fun ideas, they come to me and so I like
that in my who Bag.
I did not like being theoverworked serious one, but I
will claim the fun one in my whoBag.
But what importance does funplay for all the things you're
(21:40):
talking about?
Wendy Irwin (21:41):
It's everything and it's what's fun for you, right?
So I'm like a huge nerd, solearning and doing puzzles,
things like that, are fun for me.
Now, that would be a headachefor someone else, but I found
when you're doing what you love,it's usually fun for you, and
so anytime people are trying totackle something that they feel
is a little overwhelming, orthat they're hesitant or a
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little afraid, I'm like well,what we make it fun and it takes
the pressure off, and I thinkin some ways it takes like a
filter off too, so then they canstart looking at opportunities
and options on how to do things.
But to me, fun is I mean,that's what fills your body with
endorphins and all the goodjuice.
So why wouldn't you do morethings with fun?
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I think stress is overrated.
Jace (22:31):
I agree.
What about the things that haveto be done Like I have to do
all of these things in mybusiness, but that they're not
fun?
Kristelle (22:38):
Like finances and everything along the just
kidding.
Yeah, how do you coach somebodyLike, for example, I'll use
myself as a potential person youwork with?
I get debilitated when it comesto working on something that
requires not so much a deadlinebut more of a.
(23:02):
It's got a heavy weight on thepeople around me, but it
personally affects me more sothan the people around me, and
if I don't get it done orprocrastinate on it, I just
freeze.
So how do you navigate somebodythat doesn't want to do
something but, at the same time,they understand that pressure
(23:26):
of like it has to be done rightnow?
Wendy Irwin (23:29):
Well, a couple of things.
You can just push right throughit, bite the bullet and go, but
I find that that doesn't.
It's not sustainable.
So, ultimately, what you've gotto do is you've got to figure
out, ok, what's the thoughtthat's going through your head
when you go to step into doingthat thing?
And I guarantee it's a thoughtthat's coming from that you're
(23:49):
not smart enough, you're notgood enough, or I have to do
this.
So we always talk about turningthe half-twos into the
want-twos or get-twos, and so itcould be something as basic as
how can I shift this where I getto do it?
Like, what thought would helpme shift this?
Now, that's oversimplifying it,because that could be an entire
(24:11):
coaching session of what goeson.
But ultimately, you gottafigure out what's getting in the
way, because you know you are asuccessful, intelligent, highly
skilled woman, that's not ageneral statement, that's about
you specifically, lady.
Jace (24:28):
Oh, I was like oh, I am supposed to write this down.
No, I'm just kidding, no, and Iget that.
Put it in there.
Yeah, yeah, put it in your.
Kristelle (24:35):
HUBag.
Yeah, put it in your HUBag.
Well, it's funny.
I was like, well, what's in myHUBag?
Like I'm thinking about it andlike you're totally right and
the creativity behind themetaphor.
To begin with, you know, likeyou said, like these people
don't know what they just hired,I'm like, no, now I get it.
Like sometimes it's just you'recommunicating in a way that
really resonates with people andit really helps them illustrate
(24:56):
success.
But you know, to kind of tocrazy enough.
They're actually starting toget towards the end of our
conversation, but I want to endon a really strong note.
You know, when you look at thethings that you've accomplished
with your two kids and thesuccessful business
transitioning another one, youknow, working with your dad or
indirectly with your dad for solong, you know, at the end of
(25:17):
the day, how will you know whenyou've lived that successful
life, or what if that one I madeit moment comes in and crosses
your like?
How will you know?
Or what does that look like foryou?
Wendy Irwin (25:31):
Well, I feel like that's.
I don't really feel like mylife is a destination.
I mean it's really silly.
You know it's a journey, right.
I feel like when you're presentand grateful and joyful and
living authentically in eachmoment, the end is just the end.
It's not like a destination,it's not the gold medal at the
(25:54):
end.
I mean that's like saying yourlife could suck and then also
you win a million dollars anddie and you would be successful.
Like that doesn't make anysense.
Yeah, so to me it's.
I think I just go back to the,you know, having a really loving
my life and having it take careof me, and to me that success
it really is success.
And you know, having peoplecome and spit on my grave also
(26:19):
is kind of sounds, kind of cooltoo, because that means I made
some impact, whether people else.
Jace (26:24):
Yes, I agree, I agree 100% .
I would like dancing on andspitting on my grave for sure no
, about that.
Kristelle (26:30):
I'll think about that .
I do want to.
Jace (26:33):
Art provokes strong emotions.
Yeah, 100%.
I hope I live like that, wendy?
Kristelle (26:38):
is there something that you think there's like a
key takeaway that you'd like tomake sure our audience a really
phenomenal audience ofsupporters of the organization,
but mostly supporters of peoplebeing successful?
Is there anything else that wemight have missed that you're
like, hey, I really wanted tomake sure that somebody hears
this message.
I'll tell you.
When you said there's no reasonto stress out, like a moment in
(26:58):
me another mentor of mine,debbie Johnson, had said once
like stress will kill you.
Right, I had a moment where I'mlike I really need to rethink
that phrase, you know.
So I guess what's the one thingthat you think people take away
from whenever they're workingwith you?
Wendy Irwin (27:12):
Well, to that point , because I feel like I want to
address that as well stressdoesn't just kill you, kills you
.
It blinds you to opportunity.
Like you become so stressed outyou don't see all the options
that are around you becauseyou're so hyper-focused on
what's wrong.
Usually that's what causesstress.
So if you're able to take adeep breath or able to find that
(27:34):
joy, or find something that'sin alignment with who you really
are in order to face thechallenges.
You have the opportunities juststart bubbling up.
But if you're only focusing onthe problems, that's all you're
going to see and that's what'sgoing to grow.
And so you can only focus onsolutions.
Though, when you're not in thatstress response and I would say
(27:56):
, whatever you can do to createless and less of a stress
response whether that beself-awareness, finding what's
in your who bag, not working inan environment or in a system
that doesn't work for you all ofthose things induce stress.
So if you can decrease that,you're going to increase success
.
That's just math.
Jace (28:18):
Ooh, that's the new t-shirt.
Decrease stress, increasesuccess.
You heard it here first.
You're like a deep breath of ahuman person.
Kristelle (28:29):
Thank you.
Thank you so, so so much forbeing on the show and thank you
for sharing your wisdom, yourstories of success and, most
importantly, thank you for beinga part of not just Jace's life
but my life, because this isincredible and I really
appreciate what you've done forother professionals down the
road and I really hope to helpuplift you and help promote you.
(28:50):
If people want to get in touchwith you or find more about you,
wendy and they can find you onwendierwincom,
w-n-d-y-i-r-w-i-ncom, or findyou on social media at Wendy
Irwin Coaching.
Thank you so much for your time.
We really appreciate it, wendy.
Thank you, it was wonderful.
Thank you so much, and thankyou the listeners, the viewers,
(29:13):
the podcasters, the fans orpeople who spit on our graves,
whatever that might be.
Wendy Irwin (29:19):
Do it, oh no.
Kristelle (29:22):
Thank you so much for watching this episode of
Stories, Success and Stuff.
I'm Crystal.
This is Jace.
Don't forget to subscribe to uson YouTube, on Spotify, your
favorite Apple podcast network.
Don't forget to also visit ourwebsite for any feedback that
you'd like to give us at CRScom.
Most importantly, thank you forbeing and watching us here at
Stories, Success and Stuff.
The next episode will be comingout very soon and we're excited
(29:44):
to showcase any type of topicsthat might be relevant in your
world.
But thanks again, Appreciateyou how many topics we're going
to be talking about today, sofull curtain, no-transcript.
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