March 30, 2022 • 31 mins
Kelsey is joined by her cousin Abbey Elliott as we discuss a big thing most everyone sucks at: LAUNDRY. Yes, the dreaded laundry. We discuss the magic of black leggings, laundry with kids or spouses, and the smell that comes from wet laundry that needs to be dried. Time for a rewash!
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You're listening to the story shout podcast hosted by
Kelsey Jones. We're a weeklypodcast dedicated to
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Hi, everyone. Welcome to Storyshout. My name is Kelsey Jones
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and I am joined here today byAbby Elliot. Abby is actually my
cousin. So I forced her to comeon. Abby, thanks for joining me,
of course. So Abby, what do yousuck at that we're gonna talk
about today, Kelsey, I suck atthings. But what I've mainly
suck at is laundry.
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Avoid doing laundry at allcosts. Yeah, and I know, we've
talked about this before. And Iwas excited when you mentioned
that because I suck at laundrytoo. So I'm excited to dive into
this. Yes, I think that laundrysuckage is a common a common
shortfall amongst humans. Soprobably have a lot of kindred
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spirits on this podcast. I thinkso. Now I will. I'm just gonna
get it out there. I think liketwo months ago, I actually
started paying a service to domy laundry. That's how bad I
was. It's like $100 and theycome pick it up every two weeks
and then drop it off the nextday, because I just can't. I
just can't with laundry mountainanymore. Listen, is there a
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better $100 You could spend? Iknow. I know. And it's just my
clothes. So we do our sons. Andyou know, my husband does his.
So that's manageable. But mine Ihave so many clothes. It's just
like overwhelming. Oh, I go amonth with. Right. So how many
clothes I have? That's aproblem. Do you think that makes
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it worse? Do you think thatmakes the laundry worse having
too many clothes? I really do.
So my husband he is he's afreak. And he has he has like
five pairs of work jeans. Sothey through Friday. He has his
jeans. And then he everyweekend, he does a load of
whites and he does a lot ofcolors. And he folds them and he
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puts them away. And then he hashis his five pairs of jeans are
all clean and ready to go onMonday morning. And you know, I
have approximately 257 pairs ofblack leggings and
unlimited, so I don't have to dolaundry every every weekend like
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he does. Maybe that's theproblem. It's like we're not
desperate enough. We had toomany options so we can get lazy.
Yeah, maybe I should only havelike, you know, 10 pairs of
underwear. You know, in case Iput my pants three days a week.
LikeI know I always pack like twice
as much as I need like that meanit's like, well, I'm going to
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ship myself every day this tripso bad. After vacation laundry.
That's the worst. Or worse luck.
No, there's not. Because you'realready mad. You're back from
your trip. You're like have ahangover from it. And then you
have this dumbass laundry? Yeah,like I'm in Kansas instead of
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Cancun, right? And crab. Yeah,yeah. Angry laundry. I basically
do laundry when I fit any morelaundry in my baskets. And it's
a disaster. I will say I'm goodabout sorting laundry.
I have a hamper with threeseconds in it. And I do black
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colors and whites. But it canhold two and a half weeks worth
of clothes. So like justyesterday, I was like, can't fit
any more clothes in my hamper.
I'm just going to take all theseblack clothes and shove them in
my washing machine. But as awashing machine, it's pretty
much brand new. And the guy waslike, this washing machine is
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huge. You can put 27 towels init. And let me tell you I have
already washed these clothestwice. Yeah, because first of
all, I didn't trust that theywere going to get fully cleaned
because it was so full. justshoving them in there. Not
washing a single a single speckof dog hair off of any of these
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leggings. It's just a disaster.
So maybe the problem isn't you Ithink it's like maybe your
washer and dryers the issueit's the whole institution
Well, I'm you know, I'm going totell you something else. So
before I did the laundryservice, I didn't separate
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anything. Now I would separatetowels, but like blacks colors,
anything goes. I'm just like youknow if it serves
If that survives if it doesn't,it doesn't like I'm not going to
separate out, like jeans andshirts. I'm just not. Yeah,
well, my is it's a pet peeve ofmine when something like so like
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your light blue shirt. Like ifthat started looking really
dingy to me, it would be, Iwould throw it away. It's a pet
peeve. Like what's supposed tobe white clothes look really
dingy. So I have decided thatit's worth it to separate. But
honestly, that's why I'm with mydishwasher. If something says
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dish or hand wash only. I'mlike, this is your this is your
initiation. This is it. It's ado or die and it's right now.
If you come out the dishwasherlook at all mangled. That's not
my fault. Maybe that's a wholeother episode. It's like eating
bad dishes because I'm like,fill
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time with like, so the dry cleanonly I haven't been to a dry
cleaner. Like 10 years. So anylike wet shirt or like sweaters
I have or pants or drycleanonly. I get those like at home
dry cleaner kits and it's likethese wet sheets and you put it
in with the in the dryer. Andthat supposedly dry cleans it? I
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don't know, does but I'm notgoing to a dry cleaner. No. Oh,
no. Well, I only wear vMixleggings. So I've never seen a
dry clean only legging. That'strue. You probably don't even
know where a dry cleaner is.
They also have only vide My God,we're not going to lose them.
Okay, hell no. Hell no, my areway too sharp. She puts holes in
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everything. So that's just notgoing to happen. No special care
items allowed in Le Yeah, andpeople are like, oh, you know,
the Lulu lemons are the best.
They last so long. I've had minefor 10 years. I'm like, Nope, I
don't care about that. I'm gonnarough and sure a whole wave in
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there.
You're gonna ride him hard andput them away? What aren't you?
They're like, Oh, Lululemon isfree repair. I ain't going in.
I'm not going into Lululemon. iIt's better not to go there once
I'm not going twice. And thenyou have to go back and pick
them up. That's three times it'stoo many times. My time worth.
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That's an important discussion.
How much is my time worth?
Right? For the $130 that a pairof Lululemon leggings cost? I
can get on my app on Amazon. AndI can get 15 pairs of leggings.
And they can come to my door.
Right? If they don't survive theharsh realities of my life. I
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play without any problem. Yeah,you don't have any regrets at
all. Yeah. Over no records overhere. Okay.
That is bad with leggings is thechopper up. So I have like
similar issues with theleggings.
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Yeah, and I would hate that ifit was like expensive leggings.
And I got like the it PILT Yes,yeah. I've bought one pair of
Lululemon leggings in my life.
And it wasn't a good experience.
Yeah, I think especially ifyou're not like super tiny. It's
even worse. They don't stay upor my over my love handles so
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they don't roll in.
Yeah, forced.
So, okay, so in your household.
I know. You said your husbanddoes his laundry. Do you do your
kids laundry? Or do you guyssplit that? So I combined
laundry with my laundry. Yeah.
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So yeah, that it makes it alittle worse. Because I'm adding
in 257 pairs of tiny little outitems, right? With my items,
which is just mentally I'm like,Holy fuck, can I class? Sure.
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I'm like, fuck, this is going totake me 45 minutes to fool.
Okay. And then I have to get Ihad to get all these tiny items
upstairs. Dropped the top partof the pile three times on my
way up, right? A trail of socks.
And it's justnone of it's a good experience.
So I'm going to tell you, wedon't fold.
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Lincoln's clothes. We juststuffed them in dense so we have
like shirts, pants, long sleeveand the next size up or
something. I haven't. I can't Ican't. I can't fold a little
tiny shirt. It's not gonna lookgood. It's gonna
Got unfolded. So why am Ikidding myself?
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I actually was thinking this ispretty brilliant. But so the
only thing we fold with LEDs ispants. And that's because, like,
sometimes it's just harder totell which pants is which. But I
hang the rest of them. Thatmakes it a lot easier. Yeah, but
it's still, it's just, I don't Idon't like it. If there was a
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laundry service in northernKansas, I would use it. It was a
dog pickups, a dog poop pickupservice. I would use that. Yeah,
we have that. You gotta draw theline somewhere. Yeah, I'll do my
laundry. But last, yeah. Yeah,exactly. Your happiness. Yeah.
But there's a giant us loadlaundry. And I wash it twice.
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And I got it actually moved tothe dryer last night. So I did
it on medium heat for an hourand a half. This morning, I'm
thinking about this laundry. I'mthinking about this damn
podcast.
Got to shave myself. And I'mthinking I'm going to, I'm going
to do it. I'm just gonna do it.
You know? And I go, and it'sstill half wet. Oh, and, like,
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hour and a half miles will add20 hours because I get myself
pumped up enough to focus onfolding this right? Have you
ever folded laundry with atoddler around? No. Avoid it?
I'm like, Get your ass out ofthis room. Right? Go. Coco
melon. For 45 minutes. Yeah.
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Because I'm not going to foldeverything twice. Yeah. What I
used to do is it good. So like Ido the laundry. But then we put
it on a spare guest bed, whichwe called laundry mountain. And
that bitch would get so highit'd be as tall as you. And so
then I finally would get theenergy to fold it all it takes
me two or three hours to fold.
And while I'd watch a movie orsomething firms or Bernie? Yes,
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it's exhausting. Like my back'shurting because of gaming for so
long. I know. I agree. And I butthen I see glimpses. You know,
I'm sure everybody's like thiswhere you see glimpses of the
person you could be. So like,while I for maybe like a month
or two years ago, I was doing Imade myself do a load of laundry
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every week. Even if it wasn'tfull. I made myself and then I
made myself fold it the same dayit was done. But slow. I slowly,
you know, slipped into my oldhabits. But as for a brief while
I lived free on encumbered bylaundry. Yeah, yeah. You know,
it's, it's truly a transcendedway of life. This is how some
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self actualized people do theirlaundry. Kelsey. Yeah. Is this
what? Like? Who I don't know whohas their life together? I would
assume any celebrity hassomebody doing their laundry.
But like, yeah, you know, thegirl in high school that always
looked perfect. And now shestill looks perfect on
Instagram. You're like, is this?
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I bet this is what she does.
Yeah, I actually remember yousay celebrities, newlyweds with
Samsung and Nicholas che for ohmy god, this is so long ago.
Like, what? 18 years ago,probably I was in high school.
She was doing laundry. And sheso like their rooms were on the
second floor. And they have thislike foyer and apparently their
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laundry room was like on themain floor. And she was just
throwing all this laundry overthe balcony to lay it like in
their foyer. And it was like,four months worth of laundry.
Oh, so much laundry. And Iremember looking at that and be
like, Girl, I do that to God.
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Yeah. If you were really rich.
Yeah. If I wasin, you know, wool, and I mean,
now she has like a live forwhatever. A full time
housekeeper that probably doesit. Yeah. Like I've been bad at
laundry for so long. I rememberlike so in high school when I
was a true leader. I would lookat we would have a schedule of
like games who's cheering andwhat uniform you're supposed to
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wear. And so I would like lookat the schedule. Be like Okay,
so this outfit I don't have towear for like two weeks. I'm
just gonna go ahead and put itin my hamper. And then what
happens two weeks rolls around.
I wake up late for school. Ihave to wear my cheerleading
uniform. And I have to dig outthis uniform that's been in the
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hamper for two weeks.
For breathe it.
Like that's wrinkle release orspray.
Put that vich on and go toschool.
Okay, well, when you didn't likechildcare, maybe remember
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I'm in so my mom started makingus do our laundry. I think I was
in like fourth or fifth grade.
And I was bad at it even then,but there were so many times
when I wanted to wear a specificpair of jeans, and they weren't
dry. So I put them on I'd wearsome like damp jeans to school
because I was so addjeans. We've all done i
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Do you know gross like wet damp.
Such a humid situation. It'shumid like day. Oh God are like
you don't rales you have to puton some half let brah I'm like
cringing thinking about that.
Well, and then you talking aboutyour uniform. So Harry plays
intramural basketball. And theyhave their one game shirt. And
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they have games once a week. Andthey have to wear their shirt.
And so there's so many timeshe's had to go like with a damp
shirt. Or for breathe it. I feellike for breeze is just like I
mean, you're if you did forbreathe and the wrinkle release,
or it's clean at that point,right? Yeah. Like it basically
was watched. And it's not like Iwas like sweating in it. But
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like Harry shirt, like thesweat. Like, yeah, that's really
bad. That's why he always washesit. I don't think he ever is
worn it dirty. I think he youknow, wash it and have it be
like, half wet. Then try yourbraids on it. Yeah, but it's
been like 45 minutes before agame he needs to leave in 20.
And he put it in the dryer like,yeah, and I told him, I said,
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Now why don't you just getmultiple of the shirt? Can you
do that? But that's destructivethinking, because I shouldn't do
that. But that's like where mybrain goes. I'm thinking let's
just get 10 of that shirt. Yeah.
That's a quarter. Right? But afiscal quarter. That's a good
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for me. I want to do laundryevery three months. Oh, well.
And that's another thing Itried. So I told you I tried
making myself do one load aweek. Another thing I tried is
just to embrace the hatred. AndI purposely only did laundry
once a month. And I do like newwould be hell. So I did. I did.
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I had at that point, I had to dolike six loads. And these are
all my clothes. This isn't evenlike our kids clothes, Harry's
clothes. And I just embraced it.
So this was pre kids. I would dolike six loads at a time. It
takes me all day between washingand drying. But I made myself do
it in one day. It wasn't worthit. Because it was so awful.
Yeah, that sounds awful. Yousaid you wanted to do it once a
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quarter. So that would be that'dbe your Latins. Healthy. I want
to do it once a quarter. But Ionly want to have one week's
worth of.
Well, if you just for breezedyour clothes, you wouldn't have
to wash them as much. Maybethat's the solution. Right? We
need like dry shampoo, but forlaundry where it's like
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absorbing the dirt. Yeah. Butyou're just
you're just spraying. It's justis there anything worse?
Well, yeah. But in terms ofhousehold chores, okay. That's a
good question, though. Like interms of household chores? Would
you rather like clean out allthe toilets in your house? I
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don't remember how manybathrooms you have? Or do
laundry? I would I would ratherclean all three toilets been do
laundry? I would I want to saylaundry. But the toilets would
be done in like 10 minutes. Yes.
But the line you see that thetoilets are clean, right? And
then every go to the bathroomfor like, a few days. It's like,
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oh my gosh, this is the cleanesttoilet. Like, it's not going to
be a gross experience anymore.
You know what I mean? Like,there's just a feeling of your
toilet being clean. That's likeI would I would rather do
dishes, because I do dishes andthe mental load has a visual
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representation of the sink beingclear. And, you know, because
there's they're worse than likePIPA, my little dog. She'll go
out in the backyard and rollaround in something foul. And
this happened one time she didthis. And I'm like, oh my god, I
have to give this dog a bath.
And she needs a bath and my sinkis full of dishes. So like what
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happens to have this dog barkingon my back deck while I do the
frickin dishesto the dog. Like I just rather
Yeah, well, and that's the otherthing like with dishes and
toilets and laundry. It's neverdone. No. So if you do all your
laundry that day, you're alreadygoing to be generating dirty
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laundry.
Unless you're doing all yourlaundry naked, the next moment
you put on clothes you alreadyhave started the cycle and
dishes is like that, too. Butit's like, that's the other
thing is it doesn't end. It'sjust they're always just
perpetual. Yeah. And you can'tescape it. It's like adulting.
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But I also did it when I waslittle. I don't know. It just
sucks. Yeah, yeah. I starteddoing my own laundry at a young
age to like you. And I. So inour, in our house that I grew up
in, I had like, my room that Ilived in when I was little,
which is like, right across frommy parents room. And then when I
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got older, I moved into a roomin the basement, like little
more freedom, like a teen teenhangout joint, right? So
literally, and my, my childhoodbedroom was right next to the
washer and dryer. So I literallywould wash and dry my clothes.
And then I would just dump themin my old bedroom. And like
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never, I never folded them. Ihad like a clothes room that
like when family was coming tofit, you guys, except when
needed to sleep in that room. Mymom's like, walks in there for
the first time in three monthsand is like
Yeah, well, that's what Harrydoes is he just lives out of a
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laundry basket. So we have thislike very nice, like chest of
drawers. There's all theseshelves for him. There's another
dresser in another room. He hassome drawers in. He won't. He's
given up on that. So that's thatjourney for him is he will put
the clothes away. He just livesout of his laundry basket.
That's like by his side of thebed. He's just, he's just let
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that part go in his life thathe's gonna put laundry away and
he just lives out of his laundrybasket. See, and I think putting
the actual laundry, like fromfolding clothes on the bed to
putting it away. That's theeasiest part. No, I disagree. I
think it's that part becausethat's the part that's like,
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Okay, this is done. This isdusted. We can move on with my
life. All washing dry all day.
The folding and putting away isthe worst to me. Well, and then
I told someone else about how wedon't fold Lincoln's clothes.
And they were like, Well, whydon't you just not fold your
clothes, and just like stuffedthem in the drawers? They're
like, only society's making youfeel like you have to fold your
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clothes. And I'm like, okay,yes, but I feel like my clothes
would get more wrinkly, like hisclothes are so small that they
don't get wrinkled, like a Tshirt doesn't get wrinkled, but
I feel like my T shirts getwrinkled. So I don't go down
that path. Well, and I mean,honestly, you kind of expect as
you're wrinkly.
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That's Thank you.
For mothers in their 30s who areentrepreneur business owners who
apparently have their shittogether. We don't. Are this the
standards that society has setfor us? Kelsey, are there just
wait, I?
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I agree. You know, maybe, maybewrinkled shirts should be the
norm for us. Like, like yousaid, we're working mothers.
We're business owners. Why eatme look shitty? Why do I have to
look like I'm well? I'm not. I'mreally tired. God Oh, right.
Okay, like, exactly. Well, and,you know, that makes me think of
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this one time I went intoWalmart in this hideous outfit.
I mean, now one good thing aboutwinter is you don't have to wear
a bra because you have yourhoodie. So nobody knows what's
under there. Nobody needs toknow. So it was actuations.
Right. And I literally rememberwalking into Walmart thinking,
Well, I hope everyone there justlike assumes I'm sick. Because I
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just looked so bad. That was myhope for the strangers at
Walmart that they thought I wasill. I'd rather look ill.
Yeah.
Haven't we all been to Walmartlooking a mess though. Like, if
you look put together inWalmart, I'm gonna judge you
more than if you look ill.
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Like if you're hacking up a lungin the pile, I'm like, oh, that
checks out. Normal, high heels.
Like you're going for a nightout like strolling through the
aisles. I don't trust you. Yeah,that's not fair. That's not
right. Right. So, but that's agood point, though, that you
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bring up like I think standardsfor women. Like and this goes
into our clothes as well. Like,we're expected to have like nice
clothes all the time. And Harrytold me a couple months ago,
he's like, the older you get thebaggy or your clothes get and
I'm like, can I live? Likesorry, I don't
want like a thong calling intomy butthole? Like, can I live
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with like, exercise oversizedclothes, but as women are
supposed to, like wear formfitting clothes or like, look
presentable all the time. Oh,man, you know, those will be
fighting words to me. You knowwhat I'd say to Derek like,
Well, you got me pregnant. Andthen I had a baby ID that I
breastfed your baby. And now Ilook like this. And you know,
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what makes me happy is looseclothes.
Yeah, I'm sick of like tuggingat clothes all the time, or
whatever. And now, I just havegiven up and I think having a
kid definitely affects that. Butthen also like, the pandemic
too. Yeah, like just being athome all the time. Well,
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something that I read a thingthat like, really successful
people have like a uniform. Andthey've, like, simplified the
amount of decisions that theyhave to make in their, like,
daily life. Right. So I and Ireally, I vibe with that,
because I really hated thestress of like, waking up and
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being like, oh my god, what am Igoing to wear today? Nothing.
You know, obviously, nothing'sclean. I call my favorite hamper
for two weeks. So yeah, like Iwear like leggings, and a V neck
t shirt. Or like, like a loosesweater every day. Yeah.
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Is like I don't have thedecisions anymore of like, what
am I going to wear? I justopened up the leggings drawer, I
grabbed the women's on top. Butyou know, you got you got to
clean up eventually. And that'sthe downfall of the system.
That's true. Because I thinkeven if I always lean towards
black, like I'll wear colorsometimes. But I've so many
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pairs of black leggings. Andeven if all my entire wardrobe
was black, I still would suck atlaundry. I don't it makes the
laundry part easier. But I agreewith you like wearing similar
things every day, at least likeclears your brain of that. Yeah,
it does. So I guess that's orpeople that ate laundry is just
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buy a bunch of this.
So it doesn't matter if you'redown to your last shirt and your
last pair of pants. Because it'sall the same as the day that
they were all cleaned the firsttime for the first you know what
I mean? Yeah. So then if youstill didn't wash them, you can
hide that you use for Breezer.
Yeah.
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Fabric Refresher, whatever.
Nobody knows. They're like, Oh,Abby just has another pair of
her leggings on. They don't needto know that. It's like, yeah,
than you were yesterday.
That's something else. And Iknow, we're kind of at time. So
this might be like a goodclosing question. Is, and this
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was kind of different than theclosing question. I I told you I
might ask, How often do yourewear clothes? So all rewear
leggings, like twice, and I ofcourse bras that could probably
be its own episode, I'll reweara bra like several times, but do
you rewear before washing.
I think it's much I wore them.
Like if I if I were like, for afull day.
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I don't I would try not to worrywear them. But like there are
times that I just put leggingson to like, I mean, let's be
honest, if I'm home, I'm in myMooMoo my night gowns. Okay.
So like there are times, like,every morning that I go to work,
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put on pants and I tuck my nightshirt into the pants and put a
coat over that and take Ellie todaycare. Wow. And her little her
little teachers don't know thatI still have my MooMoo on so
like, you know my my daycaredrop off pants I'll rewear a lot
because I don't wear them thatbut like if I if it's a full day
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worth I try not to but I but Itry not to I mean I'd probably
do it twice a month. Still.
Yeah, if I work out in clothes,I won't rewear but I'm like
lounging I might rewear theblack leggings again, and I
usually always have t shirts andand like sweatshirts. Yeah. Oh,
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well.
If I have a T shirt on under it,and I didn't drop any food on
it. Oh, we wear a sweatshirt.
Three times. Yeah, same but forme. I'm like a messy like
tornado person. So I always havelike random stuff on my
sweatshirts. Yeah. And also theperson that knows like, I'm a
person that knows way too muchabout the human body obviously,
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like especially leggings andlike tighter clothes. I'm like
There's a lot of dead skin cellsin those pants. And that that
knowledge and that that it kindof makes me for a little bit. A
lot a lot of dead skin cellsyour point? Well we think my
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rewiring strategy. Okay, wellI'd like snake. Well Abby, thank
you so much for joining me totalk about our most hated topic.
Thank you Kelsey and I thank youfor also sucking out laundry
with me. Well to everyonelistening thank you so much for
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Hi, everyone. Welcome to Storyshout. My name is Kelsey Jones
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and I am joined here today byAbby Elliot. Abby is actually my
cousin. So I forced her to comeon. Abby, thanks for joining me,
of course. So Abby, what do yousuck at that we're gonna talk
about today, Kelsey, I suck atthings. But what I've mainly
suck at is laundry.
(00:46):
Avoid doing laundry at allcosts. Yeah, and I know, we've
talked about this before. And Iwas excited when you mentioned
that because I suck at laundrytoo. So I'm excited to dive into
this. Yes, I think that laundrysuckage is a common a common
shortfall amongst humans. Soprobably have a lot of kindred
(01:09):
spirits on this podcast. I thinkso. Now I will. I'm just gonna
get it out there. I think liketwo months ago, I actually
started paying a service to domy laundry. That's how bad I
was. It's like $100 and theycome pick it up every two weeks
and then drop it off the nextday, because I just can't. I
just can't with laundry mountainanymore. Listen, is there a
(01:31):
better $100 You could spend? Iknow. I know. And it's just my
clothes. So we do our sons. Andyou know, my husband does his.
So that's manageable. But mine Ihave so many clothes. It's just
like overwhelming. Oh, I go amonth with. Right. So how many
clothes I have? That's aproblem. Do you think that makes
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it worse? Do you think thatmakes the laundry worse having
too many clothes? I really do.
So my husband he is he's afreak. And he has he has like
five pairs of work jeans. Sothey through Friday. He has his
jeans. And then he everyweekend, he does a load of
whites and he does a lot ofcolors. And he folds them and he
(02:15):
puts them away. And then he hashis his five pairs of jeans are
all clean and ready to go onMonday morning. And you know, I
have approximately 257 pairs ofblack leggings and
unlimited, so I don't have to dolaundry every every weekend like
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he does. Maybe that's theproblem. It's like we're not
desperate enough. We had toomany options so we can get lazy.
Yeah, maybe I should only havelike, you know, 10 pairs of
underwear. You know, in case Iput my pants three days a week.
LikeI know I always pack like twice
as much as I need like that meanit's like, well, I'm going to
(03:01):
ship myself every day this tripso bad. After vacation laundry.
That's the worst. Or worse luck.
No, there's not. Because you'realready mad. You're back from
your trip. You're like have ahangover from it. And then you
have this dumbass laundry? Yeah,like I'm in Kansas instead of
(03:22):
Cancun, right? And crab. Yeah,yeah. Angry laundry. I basically
do laundry when I fit any morelaundry in my baskets. And it's
a disaster. I will say I'm goodabout sorting laundry.
I have a hamper with threeseconds in it. And I do black
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colors and whites. But it canhold two and a half weeks worth
of clothes. So like justyesterday, I was like, can't fit
any more clothes in my hamper.
I'm just going to take all theseblack clothes and shove them in
my washing machine. But as awashing machine, it's pretty
much brand new. And the guy waslike, this washing machine is
(04:07):
huge. You can put 27 towels init. And let me tell you I have
already washed these clothestwice. Yeah, because first of
all, I didn't trust that theywere going to get fully cleaned
because it was so full. justshoving them in there. Not
washing a single a single speckof dog hair off of any of these
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leggings. It's just a disaster.
So maybe the problem isn't you Ithink it's like maybe your
washer and dryers the issueit's the whole institution
Well, I'm you know, I'm going totell you something else. So
before I did the laundryservice, I didn't separate
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anything. Now I would separatetowels, but like blacks colors,
anything goes. I'm just like youknow if it serves
If that survives if it doesn't,it doesn't like I'm not going to
separate out, like jeans andshirts. I'm just not. Yeah,
well, my is it's a pet peeve ofmine when something like so like
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your light blue shirt. Like ifthat started looking really
dingy to me, it would be, Iwould throw it away. It's a pet
peeve. Like what's supposed tobe white clothes look really
dingy. So I have decided thatit's worth it to separate. But
honestly, that's why I'm with mydishwasher. If something says
(05:34):
dish or hand wash only. I'mlike, this is your this is your
initiation. This is it. It's ado or die and it's right now.
If you come out the dishwasherlook at all mangled. That's not
my fault. Maybe that's a wholeother episode. It's like eating
bad dishes because I'm like,fill
(05:58):
time with like, so the dry cleanonly I haven't been to a dry
cleaner. Like 10 years. So anylike wet shirt or like sweaters
I have or pants or drycleanonly. I get those like at home
dry cleaner kits and it's likethese wet sheets and you put it
in with the in the dryer. Andthat supposedly dry cleans it? I
(06:19):
don't know, does but I'm notgoing to a dry cleaner. No. Oh,
no. Well, I only wear vMixleggings. So I've never seen a
dry clean only legging. That'strue. You probably don't even
know where a dry cleaner is.
They also have only vide My God,we're not going to lose them.
Okay, hell no. Hell no, my areway too sharp. She puts holes in
(06:43):
everything. So that's just notgoing to happen. No special care
items allowed in Le Yeah, andpeople are like, oh, you know,
the Lulu lemons are the best.
They last so long. I've had minefor 10 years. I'm like, Nope, I
don't care about that. I'm gonnarough and sure a whole wave in
(07:04):
there.
You're gonna ride him hard andput them away? What aren't you?
They're like, Oh, Lululemon isfree repair. I ain't going in.
I'm not going into Lululemon. iIt's better not to go there once
I'm not going twice. And thenyou have to go back and pick
them up. That's three times it'stoo many times. My time worth.
(07:28):
That's an important discussion.
How much is my time worth?
Right? For the $130 that a pairof Lululemon leggings cost? I
can get on my app on Amazon. AndI can get 15 pairs of leggings.
And they can come to my door.
Right? If they don't survive theharsh realities of my life. I
(07:49):
play without any problem. Yeah,you don't have any regrets at
all. Yeah. Over no records overhere. Okay.
That is bad with leggings is thechopper up. So I have like
similar issues with theleggings.
(08:11):
Yeah, and I would hate that ifit was like expensive leggings.
And I got like the it PILT Yes,yeah. I've bought one pair of
Lululemon leggings in my life.
And it wasn't a good experience.
Yeah, I think especially ifyou're not like super tiny. It's
even worse. They don't stay upor my over my love handles so
(08:36):
they don't roll in.
Yeah, forced.
So, okay, so in your household.
I know. You said your husbanddoes his laundry. Do you do your
kids laundry? Or do you guyssplit that? So I combined
laundry with my laundry. Yeah.
(08:57):
So yeah, that it makes it alittle worse. Because I'm adding
in 257 pairs of tiny little outitems, right? With my items,
which is just mentally I'm like,Holy fuck, can I class? Sure.
(09:18):
I'm like, fuck, this is going totake me 45 minutes to fool.
Okay. And then I have to get Ihad to get all these tiny items
upstairs. Dropped the top partof the pile three times on my
way up, right? A trail of socks.
And it's justnone of it's a good experience.
So I'm going to tell you, wedon't fold.
(09:43):
Lincoln's clothes. We juststuffed them in dense so we have
like shirts, pants, long sleeveand the next size up or
something. I haven't. I can't Ican't. I can't fold a little
tiny shirt. It's not gonna lookgood. It's gonna
Got unfolded. So why am Ikidding myself?
(10:03):
I actually was thinking this ispretty brilliant. But so the
only thing we fold with LEDs ispants. And that's because, like,
sometimes it's just harder totell which pants is which. But I
hang the rest of them. Thatmakes it a lot easier. Yeah, but
it's still, it's just, I don't Idon't like it. If there was a
(10:26):
laundry service in northernKansas, I would use it. It was a
dog pickups, a dog poop pickupservice. I would use that. Yeah,
we have that. You gotta draw theline somewhere. Yeah, I'll do my
laundry. But last, yeah. Yeah,exactly. Your happiness. Yeah.
But there's a giant us loadlaundry. And I wash it twice.
(10:52):
And I got it actually moved tothe dryer last night. So I did
it on medium heat for an hourand a half. This morning, I'm
thinking about this laundry. I'mthinking about this damn
podcast.
Got to shave myself. And I'mthinking I'm going to, I'm going
to do it. I'm just gonna do it.
You know? And I go, and it'sstill half wet. Oh, and, like,
(11:15):
hour and a half miles will add20 hours because I get myself
pumped up enough to focus onfolding this right? Have you
ever folded laundry with atoddler around? No. Avoid it?
I'm like, Get your ass out ofthis room. Right? Go. Coco
melon. For 45 minutes. Yeah.
(11:38):
Because I'm not going to foldeverything twice. Yeah. What I
used to do is it good. So like Ido the laundry. But then we put
it on a spare guest bed, whichwe called laundry mountain. And
that bitch would get so highit'd be as tall as you. And so
then I finally would get theenergy to fold it all it takes
me two or three hours to fold.
And while I'd watch a movie orsomething firms or Bernie? Yes,
(12:00):
it's exhausting. Like my back'shurting because of gaming for so
long. I know. I agree. And I butthen I see glimpses. You know,
I'm sure everybody's like thiswhere you see glimpses of the
person you could be. So like,while I for maybe like a month
or two years ago, I was doing Imade myself do a load of laundry
(12:23):
every week. Even if it wasn'tfull. I made myself and then I
made myself fold it the same dayit was done. But slow. I slowly,
you know, slipped into my oldhabits. But as for a brief while
I lived free on encumbered bylaundry. Yeah, yeah. You know,
it's, it's truly a transcendedway of life. This is how some
(12:48):
self actualized people do theirlaundry. Kelsey. Yeah. Is this
what? Like? Who I don't know whohas their life together? I would
assume any celebrity hassomebody doing their laundry.
But like, yeah, you know, thegirl in high school that always
looked perfect. And now shestill looks perfect on
Instagram. You're like, is this?
(13:09):
I bet this is what she does.
Yeah, I actually remember yousay celebrities, newlyweds with
Samsung and Nicholas che for ohmy god, this is so long ago.
Like, what? 18 years ago,probably I was in high school.
She was doing laundry. And sheso like their rooms were on the
second floor. And they have thislike foyer and apparently their
(13:31):
laundry room was like on themain floor. And she was just
throwing all this laundry overthe balcony to lay it like in
their foyer. And it was like,four months worth of laundry.
Oh, so much laundry. And Iremember looking at that and be
like, Girl, I do that to God.
(13:53):
Yeah. If you were really rich.
Yeah. If I wasin, you know, wool, and I mean,
now she has like a live forwhatever. A full time
housekeeper that probably doesit. Yeah. Like I've been bad at
laundry for so long. I rememberlike so in high school when I
was a true leader. I would lookat we would have a schedule of
like games who's cheering andwhat uniform you're supposed to
(14:17):
wear. And so I would like lookat the schedule. Be like Okay,
so this outfit I don't have towear for like two weeks. I'm
just gonna go ahead and put itin my hamper. And then what
happens two weeks rolls around.
I wake up late for school. Ihave to wear my cheerleading
uniform. And I have to dig outthis uniform that's been in the
(14:40):
hamper for two weeks.
For breathe it.
Like that's wrinkle release orspray.
Put that vich on and go toschool.
Okay, well, when you didn't likechildcare, maybe remember
(15:01):
I'm in so my mom started makingus do our laundry. I think I was
in like fourth or fifth grade.
And I was bad at it even then,but there were so many times
when I wanted to wear a specificpair of jeans, and they weren't
dry. So I put them on I'd wearsome like damp jeans to school
because I was so addjeans. We've all done i
(15:29):
Do you know gross like wet damp.
Such a humid situation. It'shumid like day. Oh God are like
you don't rales you have to puton some half let brah I'm like
cringing thinking about that.
Well, and then you talking aboutyour uniform. So Harry plays
intramural basketball. And theyhave their one game shirt. And
(15:52):
they have games once a week. Andthey have to wear their shirt.
And so there's so many timeshe's had to go like with a damp
shirt. Or for breathe it. I feellike for breeze is just like I
mean, you're if you did forbreathe and the wrinkle release,
or it's clean at that point,right? Yeah. Like it basically
was watched. And it's not like Iwas like sweating in it. But
(16:14):
like Harry shirt, like thesweat. Like, yeah, that's really
bad. That's why he always washesit. I don't think he ever is
worn it dirty. I think he youknow, wash it and have it be
like, half wet. Then try yourbraids on it. Yeah, but it's
been like 45 minutes before agame he needs to leave in 20.
And he put it in the dryer like,yeah, and I told him, I said,
(16:39):
Now why don't you just getmultiple of the shirt? Can you
do that? But that's destructivethinking, because I shouldn't do
that. But that's like where mybrain goes. I'm thinking let's
just get 10 of that shirt. Yeah.
That's a quarter. Right? But afiscal quarter. That's a good
(17:02):
for me. I want to do laundryevery three months. Oh, well.
And that's another thing Itried. So I told you I tried
making myself do one load aweek. Another thing I tried is
just to embrace the hatred. AndI purposely only did laundry
once a month. And I do like newwould be hell. So I did. I did.
(17:24):
I had at that point, I had to dolike six loads. And these are
all my clothes. This isn't evenlike our kids clothes, Harry's
clothes. And I just embraced it.
So this was pre kids. I would dolike six loads at a time. It
takes me all day between washingand drying. But I made myself do
it in one day. It wasn't worthit. Because it was so awful.
Yeah, that sounds awful. Yousaid you wanted to do it once a
(17:47):
quarter. So that would be that'dbe your Latins. Healthy. I want
to do it once a quarter. But Ionly want to have one week's
worth of.
Well, if you just for breezedyour clothes, you wouldn't have
to wash them as much. Maybethat's the solution. Right? We
need like dry shampoo, but forlaundry where it's like
(18:08):
absorbing the dirt. Yeah. Butyou're just
you're just spraying. It's justis there anything worse?
Well, yeah. But in terms ofhousehold chores, okay. That's a
good question, though. Like interms of household chores? Would
you rather like clean out allthe toilets in your house? I
(18:30):
don't remember how manybathrooms you have? Or do
laundry? I would I would ratherclean all three toilets been do
laundry? I would I want to saylaundry. But the toilets would
be done in like 10 minutes. Yes.
But the line you see that thetoilets are clean, right? And
then every go to the bathroomfor like, a few days. It's like,
(18:51):
oh my gosh, this is the cleanesttoilet. Like, it's not going to
be a gross experience anymore.
You know what I mean? Like,there's just a feeling of your
toilet being clean. That's likeI would I would rather do
dishes, because I do dishes andthe mental load has a visual
(19:11):
representation of the sink beingclear. And, you know, because
there's they're worse than likePIPA, my little dog. She'll go
out in the backyard and rollaround in something foul. And
this happened one time she didthis. And I'm like, oh my god, I
have to give this dog a bath.
And she needs a bath and my sinkis full of dishes. So like what
(19:33):
happens to have this dog barkingon my back deck while I do the
frickin dishesto the dog. Like I just rather
Yeah, well, and that's the otherthing like with dishes and
toilets and laundry. It's neverdone. No. So if you do all your
laundry that day, you're alreadygoing to be generating dirty
(19:58):
laundry.
Unless you're doing all yourlaundry naked, the next moment
you put on clothes you alreadyhave started the cycle and
dishes is like that, too. Butit's like, that's the other
thing is it doesn't end. It'sjust they're always just
perpetual. Yeah. And you can'tescape it. It's like adulting.
(20:19):
But I also did it when I waslittle. I don't know. It just
sucks. Yeah, yeah. I starteddoing my own laundry at a young
age to like you. And I. So inour, in our house that I grew up
in, I had like, my room that Ilived in when I was little,
which is like, right across frommy parents room. And then when I
(20:42):
got older, I moved into a roomin the basement, like little
more freedom, like a teen teenhangout joint, right? So
literally, and my, my childhoodbedroom was right next to the
washer and dryer. So I literallywould wash and dry my clothes.
And then I would just dump themin my old bedroom. And like
(21:02):
never, I never folded them. Ihad like a clothes room that
like when family was coming tofit, you guys, except when
needed to sleep in that room. Mymom's like, walks in there for
the first time in three monthsand is like
Yeah, well, that's what Harrydoes is he just lives out of a
(21:24):
laundry basket. So we have thislike very nice, like chest of
drawers. There's all theseshelves for him. There's another
dresser in another room. He hassome drawers in. He won't. He's
given up on that. So that's thatjourney for him is he will put
the clothes away. He just livesout of his laundry basket.
That's like by his side of thebed. He's just, he's just let
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that part go in his life thathe's gonna put laundry away and
he just lives out of his laundrybasket. See, and I think putting
the actual laundry, like fromfolding clothes on the bed to
putting it away. That's theeasiest part. No, I disagree. I
think it's that part becausethat's the part that's like,
(22:06):
Okay, this is done. This isdusted. We can move on with my
life. All washing dry all day.
The folding and putting away isthe worst to me. Well, and then
I told someone else about how wedon't fold Lincoln's clothes.
And they were like, Well, whydon't you just not fold your
clothes, and just like stuffedthem in the drawers? They're
like, only society's making youfeel like you have to fold your
(22:29):
clothes. And I'm like, okay,yes, but I feel like my clothes
would get more wrinkly, like hisclothes are so small that they
don't get wrinkled, like a Tshirt doesn't get wrinkled, but
I feel like my T shirts getwrinkled. So I don't go down
that path. Well, and I mean,honestly, you kind of expect as
you're wrinkly.
(22:53):
That's Thank you.
For mothers in their 30s who areentrepreneur business owners who
apparently have their shittogether. We don't. Are this the
standards that society has setfor us? Kelsey, are there just
wait, I?
(23:15):
I agree. You know, maybe, maybewrinkled shirts should be the
norm for us. Like, like yousaid, we're working mothers.
We're business owners. Why eatme look shitty? Why do I have to
look like I'm well? I'm not. I'mreally tired. God Oh, right.
Okay, like, exactly. Well, and,you know, that makes me think of
(23:38):
this one time I went intoWalmart in this hideous outfit.
I mean, now one good thing aboutwinter is you don't have to wear
a bra because you have yourhoodie. So nobody knows what's
under there. Nobody needs toknow. So it was actuations.
Right. And I literally rememberwalking into Walmart thinking,
Well, I hope everyone there justlike assumes I'm sick. Because I
(23:59):
just looked so bad. That was myhope for the strangers at
Walmart that they thought I wasill. I'd rather look ill.
Yeah.
Haven't we all been to Walmartlooking a mess though. Like, if
you look put together inWalmart, I'm gonna judge you
more than if you look ill.
(24:20):
Like if you're hacking up a lungin the pile, I'm like, oh, that
checks out. Normal, high heels.
Like you're going for a nightout like strolling through the
aisles. I don't trust you. Yeah,that's not fair. That's not
right. Right. So, but that's agood point, though, that you
(24:40):
bring up like I think standardsfor women. Like and this goes
into our clothes as well. Like,we're expected to have like nice
clothes all the time. And Harrytold me a couple months ago,
he's like, the older you get thebaggy or your clothes get and
I'm like, can I live? Likesorry, I don't
want like a thong calling intomy butthole? Like, can I live
(25:04):
with like, exercise oversizedclothes, but as women are
supposed to, like wear formfitting clothes or like, look
presentable all the time. Oh,man, you know, those will be
fighting words to me. You knowwhat I'd say to Derek like,
Well, you got me pregnant. Andthen I had a baby ID that I
breastfed your baby. And now Ilook like this. And you know,
(25:28):
what makes me happy is looseclothes.
Yeah, I'm sick of like tuggingat clothes all the time, or
whatever. And now, I just havegiven up and I think having a
kid definitely affects that. Butthen also like, the pandemic
too. Yeah, like just being athome all the time. Well,
(25:48):
something that I read a thingthat like, really successful
people have like a uniform. Andthey've, like, simplified the
amount of decisions that theyhave to make in their, like,
daily life. Right. So I and Ireally, I vibe with that,
because I really hated thestress of like, waking up and
(26:10):
being like, oh my god, what am Igoing to wear today? Nothing.
You know, obviously, nothing'sclean. I call my favorite hamper
for two weeks. So yeah, like Iwear like leggings, and a V neck
t shirt. Or like, like a loosesweater every day. Yeah.
(26:32):
Is like I don't have thedecisions anymore of like, what
am I going to wear? I justopened up the leggings drawer, I
grabbed the women's on top. Butyou know, you got you got to
clean up eventually. And that'sthe downfall of the system.
That's true. Because I thinkeven if I always lean towards
black, like I'll wear colorsometimes. But I've so many
(26:55):
pairs of black leggings. Andeven if all my entire wardrobe
was black, I still would suck atlaundry. I don't it makes the
laundry part easier. But I agreewith you like wearing similar
things every day, at least likeclears your brain of that. Yeah,
it does. So I guess that's orpeople that ate laundry is just
(27:17):
buy a bunch of this.
So it doesn't matter if you'redown to your last shirt and your
last pair of pants. Because it'sall the same as the day that
they were all cleaned the firsttime for the first you know what
I mean? Yeah. So then if youstill didn't wash them, you can
hide that you use for Breezer.
Yeah.
(27:37):
Fabric Refresher, whatever.
Nobody knows. They're like, Oh,Abby just has another pair of
her leggings on. They don't needto know that. It's like, yeah,
than you were yesterday.
That's something else. And Iknow, we're kind of at time. So
this might be like a goodclosing question. Is, and this
(27:58):
was kind of different than theclosing question. I I told you I
might ask, How often do yourewear clothes? So all rewear
leggings, like twice, and I ofcourse bras that could probably
be its own episode, I'll reweara bra like several times, but do
you rewear before washing.
I think it's much I wore them.
Like if I if I were like, for afull day.
(28:26):
I don't I would try not to worrywear them. But like there are
times that I just put leggingson to like, I mean, let's be
honest, if I'm home, I'm in myMooMoo my night gowns. Okay.
So like there are times, like,every morning that I go to work,
(28:47):
put on pants and I tuck my nightshirt into the pants and put a
coat over that and take Ellie todaycare. Wow. And her little her
little teachers don't know thatI still have my MooMoo on so
like, you know my my daycaredrop off pants I'll rewear a lot
because I don't wear them thatbut like if I if it's a full day
(29:09):
worth I try not to but I but Itry not to I mean I'd probably
do it twice a month. Still.
Yeah, if I work out in clothes,I won't rewear but I'm like
lounging I might rewear theblack leggings again, and I
usually always have t shirts andand like sweatshirts. Yeah. Oh,
(29:31):
well.
If I have a T shirt on under it,and I didn't drop any food on
it. Oh, we wear a sweatshirt.
Three times. Yeah, same but forme. I'm like a messy like
tornado person. So I always havelike random stuff on my
sweatshirts. Yeah. And also theperson that knows like, I'm a
person that knows way too muchabout the human body obviously,
(29:53):
like especially leggings andlike tighter clothes. I'm like
There's a lot of dead skin cellsin those pants. And that that
knowledge and that that it kindof makes me for a little bit. A
lot a lot of dead skin cellsyour point? Well we think my
(30:15):
rewiring strategy. Okay, wellI'd like snake. Well Abby, thank
you so much for joining me totalk about our most hated topic.
Thank you Kelsey and I thank youfor also sucking out laundry
with me. Well to everyonelistening thank you so much for
joining us and don't forget toleave us a review on Apple and
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