Part 1 of a series on animal agency! An interview with Carol Gigliotti, author of The Creative Lives of Animals.
For more on the book: https://nyupress.org/9781479815463/the-creative-lives-of-animals
For the author's recent op-ed in The Scientist: https://www.the-scientist.com/reading-frames/opinion-biodiversity-loss-worsened-by-extinguishing-animal-innovators-70535
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