Unveiling the Real Dan Bilzerian | Straight Outta The Lair Podcast - Straight Outta The Lair with Flex Lewis

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
When you come to a gym like this, I feel like it
just pushes you to a differentlevel.
I'll go the extra mile here.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Straight to the left Flex and Rock Rock.
We got somebody in the studiotoday, man.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Indeed, we got a special guest in the house, the
old Armenian greaser himself.
Oh my gosh, dan.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Blazarian.
This podcast has alreadystarted, though before we even
hit the like button.
Dan Blazarian, welcome to theshow, my friend.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
What an intro.
The Armenian greaser, thank you, it's an honor.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
I don't know if I can top that, but it's an honor.
I don't know if I can top that,but, mate, great to have you on
the show.
Obviously I've got to know younow over the last like three
years, like since I've moved toVegas, and suffice to say, mate,
like I don't know anybody likeDan Bazarian there is, suffice
to say he's a prodigy.

(01:03):
And when you truly get to readyour book, you realize the life
that you've lived.
My friend and both of us haveread the book, so don't be
thinking I have my friend, butit's, listen, what a life, my
friend.
I don't know where you want tokick this off, but I do want to
talk about the book.
The Floor is Yours, my, myfriend it's a great bathroom.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Read for all you out there, it's yeah, speaking of
bathrooms, I always piss beforepodcast.
Now, my first podcast I did itwas, uh, howard stern and I went
in there and I and I like I hadto piss.
But I was super late and Inever forget I was like an hour
into this thing and I'm fuckinglike sweating.
I got anxiety.
I like pushed as long as Ipossibly could.

(01:43):
I was like at a point where Iwas like I'm gonna for sure piss
myself before I, like you knowass has got to go the bathroom.
In the middle of his fuckingpodcast he's like, oh, we're
almost done, we're almost done.
30 minutes later, after thepoint that I had decided I was
almost ready to piss myself atany second, we finally wrapped
the show, but it was so are youtelling me you need another piss
?

Speaker 2 (02:03):
no, no, no, okay, good, you know, that's how you,
that's a hidden message there.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
That's how you get kidney stones.
You know, oh jeez.
But usually Flex asks theguests right before they come in
.
He's like you got to pee, yougot to drink a water, because I
think we've had A couple ofbodybuilders in prep for Mr
Olympia.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Literally, I know the telltale signs, being one
myself of old right.
You see the fidgeting fuckinglegs crossing the legs.
You need a piss.
Yeah, bro, Can I go on?

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Well, they also probably got like enlarged
prostates.
He's maybe got chlamydia.
So there's like a few factorsthat's not verified that
exacerbate the it's.
It's a good segue into the bookmate speaking of chlamydia,
speaking of chlamydia.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
I want to recap on the book.
You told me and sent me thebook and thank you very much on
that, mate.
I got to read it periodicallybut in the last like two weeks,
since we had to push the podback I've read it back to back
and it's just a fascinatinginsight to your life, forehead
by David Goggins, and you've gotso many celebrity friends that

(03:10):
are in that book.
All these tell-alls and lifeexperiences met.
It's just a fantastic bookKeystering, yeah, keystering.
We will be talking about that.
I just want to say, for all ofyou who we're just just jumping
on right now, a fantastic booktruly breaks any stereotype or
perception of dan bazarian,because what you've gone through
and the things that you'vepushed through adversity,

(03:32):
diversity to get where you aretoday and and choose the life
that you live by choice, isincredible, man.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
So yeah, just I wrote it like a diary that I didn't
want anybody to find, so goodway of putting it.
I was like if I just put allthe like really bad shit in here
, then it'll kind of like temperthe crazy stuff.
So it felt like I don't know.
I didn't want to be like awhole braggy tale, so I just
kind of just told it you knowfucking good, the bad and the

(03:59):
ugly, so mostly it was an easyread for me, you know, and I
actually learned a lot.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
So, mostly ugly.
It was an easy read for me, youknow, and I actually learned a
lot.
I actually learned more aboutyou and I knew a lot about you
already, but I learned a lot ofthings in there and and I think
anybody who actually reads itand goes through and and sees
the, the evolution, you knowit's it is pretty impressive and
you know the poker battles andyou know getting getting through
that and I know a lot of peopleout there probably think you
just inherited all your money,you know, and that's been a
misconception.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Well, that was kind of the thing it's like that's
what got me into the poker game.
So I can't really be too madabout it, because I relied on
that kind of like background orimage to get into those games.
So you know and I kind ofperpetuated that a little bit I
mean I did have a trust fund.
It just didn't kick in until Iwas 35.
So, yeah, I fun, it just didn'tkick in until I was 35.

(04:46):
So, um, yeah, I mean it waskind of like a double-edged
sword.
I cared more about getting intothe good games than people
thinking that I did it allmyself.
So you know, I take the moneyinstead of the glory, you know
but dig into that, dan, forpeople who don't know.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
You didn't inherit this.
You know crazy amount of moneyyou truly earned yourself to the
top well, at one point is acrazy amount, I think it was
worth like 100 million at onepoint.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
But, yeah, the fucking government sold off a
bunch of the stock which causedit to tank.
And then, yeah, by the time Igot it was like a million bucks.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
It was just, you know , insignificant but can you blow
through that in one year?

Speaker 1 (05:17):
I mean, that didn't even cover the jet fuel.
You know, that year, um, andI'd bought a jet like four years
before, but yeah it was, it wasreally insignificant.
But I don't think that a lot ofpoker players want to admit to
themselves that they kind of didit wrong, and a lot of these
guys focus on, you know, youknow, being known as the best

(05:38):
player, winning thesetournaments or whatever, and I
really just focus on gettinginto the best games, and that
was a big part of, to me,playing poker is, like you know,
playing against bad players tome is more important than being
slightly better.
Like I would rather be like an87 player that's playing against
50 guys than a guy that's likea 99 beating the, you know,

(05:58):
96ers, um, and their edge islike very small.
So for me, I kind of likeidentified the biggest edge,
which, I mean, that's kind ofwhat gambling is mostly about is
exploiting edges, and so, yeah,I just focused on that.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
Yeah, those big games .
I mean obviously that's got tobe super stressful.
I've read a lot about likethere's a crazy stress that is
obviously going through these 12hour or 24 hour games.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Right, like talk about that a little bit, because
I know you've had some crazyhead-to-head 50 million dollar
type matches, hand type matchesand like the pressure, yeah, the
pressure yeah, it was stressful, I mean to a point where my
actual hair was falling out ofthe table, like I, like, ran my
head.
Yeah, and it wasn't the juice.
But yeah, it was just a crazything, man, and yeah I, I got to

(06:48):
a point where the wins didn'tmake me nearly as happy as the
losses made me pissed off andthe money didn't really make any
difference in my life.
So I think that's when Idecided to quit was when it was
just like it's kind of anegative free roll, like if I'm
one more money, my life wasn getbetter and if I lost money it
was gonna piss me off and Ididn't like the stress.

(07:08):
I wouldn't eat.
You know I've always been intoworking out and health and
whatever.
And poker's a really fuckingunhealthy sport.
Like you're not eating, itfucks up your sleep.
Your cortisol levels go up soyou're breaking down muscle.
I mean, you know cortisol right.
So it's like it's a lot of badstuff and people don't really
take it into account.
Plus, you're just in animmobile position sitting there
for whatever fucking 12, 14hours and uh, it's tough you get

(07:33):
out of there and your fuckingadrenal system is drained, but
then you can't still sleepbecause you're all fucking
jacked up and then you gottatake a sleeping pill to go to
bed and the sleep's not thatgreat.
It's just an unhealthy living.
The nice thing about it is.
You have a lot of flexibility,you can do whatever the fuck you
want.
You've got no boss.
You make a lot of money, butthe downside is just.
I think it's really bad foryour health.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Yeah, I mean, I think it would be just that amount of
stress I've seen even withchess players too.
When they're sitting there forX amount of time, they're like
literally losing weight.
Like the stress levels are justsuch a crazy high that it's
literally the stress is justkilling you guys as you're
sitting there playing.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Yeah, I mean, when you're sitting in a stationary
position you're not moving, butyour mind is going a million
miles an hour.
I don't think that's like thatnatural of a state, and I think
that's the state that a lot ofus are perpetually in now with
social media and with internetand with you know just all these
like high adrenaline things.
And usually when you're goingthrough adrenaline you're doing
something physical and your bodycan burn off that energy.

(08:33):
And a lot of times when you'replaying video games and you've
got this stress and you've gotthis adrenaline but you're not
actually physically moving, thenit creates this like imbalance
where your mind is going throughall this crazy stuff, your
body's just sitting on your ass.
You don't really have a way tolike flush out the cortisol and
the adrenaline and stuff likethat.
So I think it's probably one ofthe reasons why a lot of people
have anxiety today is becausetheir mind gets so much

(08:55):
stimulation their body doesn'thave, you know, the same
stimulus to match.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
I completely agree.
I can agree with that too.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah, having this injury, my mind is all over the
place and I've had no outlet.
Yep, just PT, yep, and I havewild ADHD.
But I don't want to stay on thepoker topic.
So you said you have a lot ofthings racing through your brain
when you're sitting there.
What kind of things?
Are you just trying to guessthe next play, or is it Read the
man?

Speaker 1 (09:19):
I mean that's a part of it.
So you're reading the personYou're thinking about, like what
could he have?
What does he think that I have?
What does he think that I thinkthat he has?
And then there's like a lot oflevels to that, like, how much
have I been bluffing before?
Do I want to seem like I'mbluffing?
Do I want to seem like I'mgoing for value?

(09:39):
What percentage of the time doI hand better than his?
At the same time, like, is thisguy losing?
And because he's losing, is hegoing to play more aggressive?
Is he going to play morepassive?
Is he trying to hit hands?
Like there's so manycalculations going on all at the
same time.
Meanwhile, you have to justremain calm, as a cucumber, act
like you don't care.
You know, and you know becausethe pros are the ones that are
like analyzing everything, andyou know you don't want to

(10:00):
appear as a pro.
So there's a lot of levelinggoing on in your mind.
You're also doing a lot ofcalculations and then you're
trying to not let it affect youtoo.
You also don't want to give offtells.
You're looking for their tells.
Um, you're, you're trying tocalculate the pots.
You know how much you want tobet.
You want to over bet the pot.
You want to bet three quartersof the pot.
You know, like, how, how muchmoney do you have in your stack?

(10:21):
How much money does he have inyour stack?
How much money does he have inhis stack?
If you bet this and he ships,you know, then can you call Like
, is it correct?
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 (10:27):
There's so many.
I don't know what you're saying, but I fucking agree with you
that is wild man.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Check, check, check all night.
Mr Son of a bitch, Just watchthat last night, bro.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
They're coming out with the rounders.
Fucking cool kids, Fuckinggroup message.
Sorry, guys, have you seenRounders.
Yes, a while ago.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
That movie got me into poker and made me want to
get into it.
Just watching the movie.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
I think it got a lot of people in.
I must have watched that movielike 200 times in college, Like
every poker game that we played.
It was just like on repeat.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
Teddy KGB all day.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
Yeah, you were just like the poker game would stop
when the big scenes would comeon.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
I hate to be that guy .
You know, I've never playedpoker.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
I mean it's not something you just kind of do.
I mean it's something that youreally have to learn or else
you're just going to lose a lotof fucking money.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
Never played with your friends or never gambled.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Well again, this is the different part of the world
I come from.
There was nobody playing pokergrowing up, no college college,
nor you know it was play rugbyfight.
But that's what I like thoseyou don't kind of do it you like
you know what I mean play oryou don't play.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
And if you, if you kind of play, you're just gonna
piss away money, because youcan't play poker unless you're
playing for money, and if youdon't play for an amount of
money that you care about, it'skind of hard for it to really be
a fun game.
So it's you either get the bugor you don't, and it's
definitely better to not get thebug, I would say.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
I've stayed away from the bug because I'm unless you
haven't fucking already noticedsuper competitive in anything I
do.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
Addictive personality .

Speaker 2 (11:53):
And also I'm very emotional.
So if I was losing I don'tthink I could hide it.
I can't fake being fake.
That's why people are friendswith me.
And also it'd be on my face ifI was fucking not doing well too
.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
You know, I just don't want to sit there in that
much stress, dude.
It's almost like it's likewinning the money, like losing
the money's worse, and it's likeuh nah I'm good.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yeah, you mentioned that then and that's interesting
.
Like so you never felt wholewhen you won.
You were more pissed off.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
You said well, there was times I would say like in I
think the wins mattered a lotmore to me, because it meant
something like I would go maybebuy a motorcycle because I want,
or I would get a nicer car, orI mean it was like we could get
another plasma TV.
There was like some correlationbetween the win and what you
would do with it.
And then there was like a levelof freedom to with the money is

(12:41):
like OK, you know, if I get toa certain point point, then I
don't ever have to work foranybody, I could travel.
I don't have to listen to thisfucking dipshit teacher, I don't
, you know, my homework doesn'tmatter.
Like there was like realtangible um things correlated
with the wins versus later inlife when you've got all the
stuff that you need.
I mean listen, once basic needsare met and once you have real

(13:01):
freedom.
It's kind of like thehedonistic treadmill, like the
incremental money doesn't bringyou more happiness.
I mean temporarily you'll getthe pleasure, whatever, but you
just calibrate to that.
You calibrate to it in likethree to six months and then
that is your baseline.
So even if you make fucking 500million dollars, you are not
going to be statisticallyhappier than if you had 10 or 20
million dollars like, and infact, maybe less happy, because

(13:26):
now you're used to only the bestof the best of the best shit,
and there's so many things thatare let down and you have so far
to fall right, and you're alsocomparing yourself with all
these other people and it justnever becomes enough.
And then the money really isn'tfulfilling, because every
dollar that you make, itliterally makes no difference to
you.
Every dollar that you make, itliterally makes no difference to

(13:48):
you.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
And so I think that it's one of those things where,
um, if you correlate the moneydirectly to your happiness,
you're never going to be happywhen do you, when do you hit
that glass ceiling where youwere like, fuck, I've got all
this money and and there's onlya few things that are bringing
that happiness in at that pointin time, right, there was a few
key moments of my life.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
I remember in college just simply thinking like if I
had a million dollars, thatwould be it.
I'd be set.
I could have the motorcycle.
I could tell my principal tofuck off, like you know what I
mean.
I'd get the pussy.
Like.
I'd have the nice TV Like itwas.
Like that's it.
You're set full of cash and buythe, buy the mercedes, like in

(14:26):
50 cent.
You know what I mean like getrich or die, try it.
You know, like that was thedream, yeah.
And then it was like fivemillion, and then it was 10, and
then it was 50, and I rememberlike every time I would hit a
milestone I'd be like sure, likeI was like, okay, like 10
million is enough, like I getthe house, you know, and then it
was like, okay, I need the jet,but then like 50s for sure
enough, you know what I mean.
Then 100 is like okay, okay,definitely 100.
It's just never.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
Now you're not even living like a normal human
anymore, and Dana White told methis one time because he was
like anything in the 2, 3million range.
You're still working your assoff every day Over 10 million.
At 10 million you're lightlyworking, you're picking and
choosing what you want.
50 million to 100 million.
You're not living like a normalhuman anymore.
Or 100 million plus.

(15:03):
You don't live like a normalhuman anymore, like or a hundred
, a hundred million plus.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
You don't live like a normal human anymore.
No, you don't, um, but youthink that you do and for you
it's normal.
And that's kind of the thing islike whatever you perceive as
normal is normal for you, right,right, so you're living in this
like bubble and then everybodyelse is living in reality, but
for for you, you know, yournormal is your normal.
And so I, just like I said,basic needs met.
That, I think, is the is thelimit to where, like, the money

(15:29):
actually does bring happiness.
And I remember the time when itreally stuck out.
I was on a 300 foot yacht withlike 30 girls, super hot chicks,
all trying to fuck me, and Ihad every single thing.
I wanted money, the fame, theball, the bullshit and uh was
like fuck, I was like I'mmiserable.
I was, I was less happy on thattrip than I'd been on many
other vacations and, um, youknow, a lot of times you tell

(15:51):
yourself like the money doesn'tbring you happiness, or the
money isn't the answer, orwhatever.
But that was a time when I waslike, okay, now I'm sure, like,
sometimes you're like, oh, youstick the finger in the light
socket and it shocks you, but,like me, let's try it again and
like does it really shock methat much?
You know, like whatever, butthat was a moment I'll never
forget, where it's like okay,like you can't get a bigger boat
, you know, like my dick can'tgo into more chicks.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
You tried, you definitely tried.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
We're at a max, you know, like with the cialis and
the testosterone and the stemcells, like my dick is at max
volume.
I'm maxing this thing out and I, just like I said I was, I was
happy on other vacations.
In fact, I was actually kind ofmiserable on that vacation
because I remember my energyjust being like pulled in so
many different directions, um,and I think that's one of the

(16:39):
problems with dating a lot ofgirls is that they do just like
suck your energy um and so uh,dating a lot of girls at the
same time yeah, yeah.
Well, it's a weird thing likeactually dating five girls, I
think, is harder than datinglike 50 or 100.
Um, when you date four or fivegirls, they require more,

(16:59):
they're actually more jealous,it's it's just a different
dynamic and they're all kind oflike competing for that main
girl role.
When you're dating like 50 or100 girls, they're just happy
for the time and they're also sointerchangeable that like they
cause you no stress, you don'tcare um, but when you're only
hanging out like four or fivegirls, it's kind of like you
know if, if you lost one of them, you would care more, like you

(17:21):
get a little.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
One wants more time, more than the other.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Yeah, I don't know how these fucking Mormon guys
have the five wives.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
I was about to say it .

Speaker 2 (17:28):
I just don't know.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
And then secretly behind the scenes, these chicks
have got to be cutting eachother's throats because they act
like they're cool with it.
And they are when it's 20 or 50or whatever, and it's just kind
of like it's not even an ideathat they might be exclusively
dating you.
But when it goes down to likefour and it becomes more of like
a possible reality, then all ofa sudden like the claws come
out.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Yeah how does the date in a hundred girls look
like?

Speaker 1 (17:50):
I mean, let's look at his dms real quick yeah well,
every week there's just, youknow, in order to do that, you
have to have a pipeline.
So, you know, my pipeline was,you know, we were doing test
shoots every week.
All these girls were hitting meup like you know, I want to
come, come by or whatever.
So I would just have them allcome by on like a Thursday and
then they would stay through theweekend, and so my house would
just be like full of whatevergirls I wanted.
I would always book them onlyfor like a day or two and then,

(18:12):
if I liked them, they could stay.
I didn't like kicking girls out, so they would always come
under the assumption that theywould be leaving soon, and then
we would adjust accordingly.
If you know they were cool, it'slike okay, you know yeah right,
so like yeah, exactly, and thenthere wasn't like a vetting
process yeah, and then theynever got bored because I was
like, oh shit, you know, we onlyhave one day.
They never like tried to playany games about, like fucking

(18:32):
you.
It was always like as soon aspossible.
And so that's another thing toois like when I would like do
dates, I would always like, hey,I got an hour on thursday or
whatever, and then they wouldcome over and it would just be
like it would be like a race tobang you.
And so what I found is, whenyou had time constraints or a
limited amount of time, theyvalued it more.
And nobody, they never gotbored.

(18:54):
They were never, you know.
It was just always like, okay,how can I get my time with him?
And so, yeah, like I said, youhave to have the pipeline, so
they're just constantly comingin.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
Well, there's been, there's been a few times.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
I actually introduced myself three times to a girl
that I'd fucked on threedifferent occasions.
It was pretty embarrassing, butthat's another story.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
But anyways, that's another story.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
So, yeah, you would have kind of like the regulars,
and it was always important tohave regular girls around.
And this is like one of thethings that I learned was when
you went on vacation or when youwent to the club, having two or
three super hot girls that havefucked you, that were eager to
fuck you again, was verypowerful, because then you could
just ignore all the other girlsand they would be competing to
talk to you.
It's one of the things that Ikind of like.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
It's the setup.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
Yeah, I broke this down in the course.
So, like the last two yearsI've been working on this
fucking like course for guys toteach them what they're doing
wrong.
I think 99, 99 of guys have nofucking idea what they're doing
wrong.
And then like the optimalapproach, um, and it's kind of
similar to gambling right, likein the beginning of gambling was
everybody had like an idea oflike what was right and then 10

(20:05):
years later, like all the bestpros would all kind of talk and
we would agree on stuff andthere was stuff that we were all
sure was right and the quantsand the supercomputers came out
and the game got solved and werealized like how fucking wrong
we were about this shit.
And it was like you know, you'resupposed to bet like twice the
pot on the turn in certain spots.
You're supposed to just do allin bluffs, you know?
I mean like stuff that nobodyeven considered to do was.

(20:28):
You know, game theory, optimalwas correct.
And I think that's one of thethings that I found with the
dating stuff, when I really likespent the last two years
deconstructing what had workedand what didn't work was how
fucking wrong guys are aboutthings that they're sure that
they're right about, like the,the commonly accepted like right
approach for a woman, is justfucking wrong such as what give
us.
I think you're beautiful.
Can I buy you a drink?

(20:49):
It's horrendous.
You're over communicatinginterest.
You're putting the girl inposition.
Like I know I can have this guy.
Do I want him?
At that moment your flaws becomemagnified.
It's just like the whole powershift changes.
It's like a traveling salesmanshows up at your fucking house
and like maybe he has great potsand pans to sell you.
Maybe you need great pots andpans.
But when he shows up at yourfucking door, you're looking at
everything wrong with those potsand pans.

(21:10):
You're thinking about likecould I get it cheaper there?
You're thinking about all thisstuff versus like think like an
auction.
You're in an auction andthere's an item that you really
fucking want and in your mindyou remember all the times that
you really wanted something.
You didn't get it.
There's five of themmotherfuckers, that want that
shit.
You're not thinking aboutwhat's wrong with it.
You're thinking how do I get it?
And that's the difference whenchasing a girl and it's on both

(21:31):
sides like on the side whereyou're chasing the girl your
flaws become magnified.
You know her flaws disappearand vice versa, when she's
chasing you, your flawsdisappear and her flaws magnify.
I mean, how many times you hada girl that's like hits you up
constantly, this fucking likestage five clinger.
All you can think about is shitwrong with her and she just
kind of played it cool and likewasn't so fucking thirsty.
You know, maybe she wouldn't belike the friday night fucking

(21:53):
last minute booty call ifnothing pans out of the club.
Chick, you know what I'm saying,like the 3 am time, yeah hey,
sorry, I didn't text you backthe last seven times and I'm
like, what are you doing?
It's like 4 am and then all ofa sudden she pings you back
immediately.
Oh, I'm just hanging out at thehouse.
What are you doing?
yeah right, but anyways, thepoint is that you know it was

(22:18):
only because I had a big samplesize of girls that wanted to
fuck me that I screwed it upwith and a large sample size of
girls that wanted to fuck methat I also fucked.
And most guys have, you know,like the.
You know, maybe they have thegirls that wanted to fuck them
that they fucked, but most guysand I mean like 99 of guys don't
have a huge sample size ofgirls that really wanted to fuck

(22:38):
them they screwed it up with.
And only in comparing thethings that I did with both of
those that were different, did Ifigure out, like how I screwed
it up with a lot of girls thatwanted to fuck me.
You know, and I'm talking aboutlike girls that dm me, like I
want to fuck you, butt naked,asshole spread, like you know,
saying I'm ready, like I want tosee these dms like that's a
girl that wants to fuck youright.
There's no like misconceptionyeah, there's nothing and and,

(23:01):
like I said, and also girls thatI did fuck later.
So I know they wanted to fuckme because they like had hit me
up, whatever, but the commonthread was it was girls that I
like, really liked or that Iwould start chasing and I would
act differently because of that.
And when I did that, all of asudden the results fucking
completely changed.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
Got too nice, got too nice, got to I just acted
differently.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
I act, I didn't, I didn't cooperate from a place.
But there's just a lot ofdifferent things, right, but the
point is that a lot of guysdon't even understand how many
things they're doing wrong andthey're putting in a lot of
effort that actually hurts them.
So they're doing thingsthinking that it's going to help
them get this girl and it'sactually hurting them and it's
it's counterintuitive, becausein work, in relationships with

(23:44):
friends, all this stuff, likeyou know, more effort yields a
better result.
Usually you work your ass offat your fucking job, you get a
promotion, you fucking show upat 2am to help your buddy change
a fucking tire.
He's got your back.
You know what I'm saying?
Like positive correlationbetween effort, right, but
pre-fucking a girl there it'sopposite.
It's like negative correlation.
The more effort that you put into a girl before you fuck her,

(24:05):
the more it cuts against you soanyway.
So I did, you know.
So I spent the last likefucking two years creating this
fucking thing where it's likejust a basic roadmap of all the
things they do wrong.
The correct approach is likethe way I look at it is like
guys have a fucking map, they'retrying to get to mexico and it
says mexico's fucking north incanada, and they're just like
traveling north and they're justnever going to get to mexico

(24:26):
yeah their dick is never goingto get to a vagina you know like
it's just not gonna happen andyou know it would be like if you
went to the fucking gym and youhit the heavy bag for 10 000
hours but you never had a coach.
Like doesn't mean you're gonnabe a great boxer, you put in the
fucking time.
But like if you worked withmayweather's team for fucking
you know whatever five days andthen you put in 500 hours, you'd
probably be a much better boxerthan the guy that did 10 000

(24:48):
hours and no coaching.
And guys will like get coachingwith everything.
Not that I want to be a fuckingdating coach, but I just wanted
to put out like the rightinformation so I felt like that
I think it's needed.
I think it's needed for men.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
I mean, we're so soft I don't know.
I don't know what the exactstat is, so somebody you know
can quote me on the, on the inthe comments, but it's like half
the guys in the last year havenot had sex.
It's like.
It's like.
It's like 40 or 50 percent areversions still going into their
40s.
It's absurd, it's a crazynumber.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
But more than that, that bothered me was the
relationships that I saw with myfriends, with girls that were
just so fucking subpar, likeguys that were worth $100
million, $500 million, literallydating hookers, engaged to
girls that had fucked theirwhole friend group Just
embarrassing shit.
Girls that you know had likefucked their whole friend group,
like just it's embarrassingshit.
And then like the way theybehaved, actually caused because
they, you know, there's so many, there's a lot.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
I get it because I've been I've been around a lot of
guys who've made a lot of moneyand had zero clue how to talk to
chicks.
You know they got a lot ofmoney, they're.
You know they got the boat andthey're.
They're trying to do this stuffbut like they don't know how to
talk to them, well, they don'tknow how to engage.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
That's a part of it.
But another part of this islike they have this like
subconscious descending value inthe girl's eyes because they're
doing, they're making so manysacrifices for the girl instead
of like standing their groundhere and there, and because of
that, like all these tinysacrifices add up and it's like
a war of power.
It's like every little battleis, you know, like to contribute

(26:13):
to whether or not you win orlose the war?
And what happens is a lot ofthese guys, they just make so
many sacrifices that becomeexpected instead of appreciated
and then all of a sudden thegirl cheats on him and it always
ends with like, oh, he was sucha nice guy, but it's always,
like every chick is like finishsucking my dick, tell me about
her fucking boyfriend that'ssitting at home.

(26:35):
It's like, oh, oh, he was such anice guy.
But that's always how itfucking goes, like you know,
like it's just so ridiculous andin dating it, you know this
like being a really nice guyjust gets punished over and,
over and over again, and I, and,like I said, I think these guys
don't have the right directions, so that's why they're
continuing to get like the samebad result over and, over and
over again so this is justtalking about this.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
There's a difference between being a nice guy and a
good man.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Literally talking about this about an hour ago.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
Yeah, but we won't open that kind of worms up.
Is this a online course?

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Tell us about where you can find it too, Don.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
Called Sigma, sigma Society, that's like I just kind
of dropped it in there.
I spent fuck, fuck, I don'tknow almost two years.
It's not that long, it's likefive and a half hours, but it's
basically just like a fulldeconstruction of, like I said,
all the things that, like I andother guys do wrong and don't
know, and then like the smalltweaks that you can make that'll
fucking have a significantimpact, like positive or

(27:27):
negative, and then like a lot ofthe psychology too, like why
women, women, do certain things,why they respond to, you know,
like this stimulus or that oryou know, and so I think
understanding the psychologywill actually help guys also in
negotiations and businesswhatever, because it, you know,
the thread goes through.
So I felt like it was importantand I don't know, I was just

(27:51):
kind of tired of just doing thepleasure-seeking stuff, the
hedonistic treadmill, so Iwanted to do something that I
felt like was going tocontribute some value.
So that's what I did.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
I know we kind of tented this book about it
earlier, but was this somethingthat you've just generally seen?

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yeah, I saw it with my friends.
I mean, I saw it with guys.
I mean, the status of dating isso bad out there and I think
it's partially due to socialmedia because these women have
this unrealistic expectation ofwhat they deserve.
That's a piece of it.
I think another part of it isthat guys aren't having as many

(28:24):
normal, like human interactionsthat they used to like in our
generation.
Like you would have to actuallyfucking talk to people, tell
stories.
You know like people wouldcommunicate.
It wasn't just like fuckingglued to the cell phone, like
you literally go to a party nowand it's just like a bunch of
motherfuckers all glued to theircell phone.
Versus like when we were kids,nobody had cell phones.
You had to talk and because youhad to talk, you became better

(28:45):
at telling stories and you werefunnier and you connected with
people and whatever.
And now it's just like it's.
It's kind of like degraded toonly an online dating sort of
thing and because of thatthey've shown like a very small
percentage of guys get theswipes, but the percentage of
guys to get the swipes get allthe swipes.
And then also in social medianow because of the access, like

(29:05):
you know, if a chick wanted tofuck Leo back in the day.
She had to, like find out wherehe was going to be, fly to LA,
show up at that club in hopes ofmaybe seeing the motherfucker.
You know what I mean, likemaybe, and then he picks her.
Yeah, yeah, also has to pick her.
Yeah Right, versus.
Now it's like she could justslide in the DMS and she could
be like his four o'clock onTuesday, you know.
And so like now these chicksare able to fuck these guys.

(29:26):
These guys aren't going to datethem, but because these guys
will them, these girls thenthink that like okay, like I can
get this guy and they get ranthrough by all these like high
value guys and then they end upsettling for some fucking, you
know rich guy that can take careof them they never respect.
And the rich guy is just likehappy to get her because she's
hot and doesn't realize thatshe's been run through.
And so it's this whole like badrelationship where she doesn't

(29:47):
respect him.
He thinks he's so happy to getthis girl, she knows she's kind
of a fucking ran through pieceof shit, so she doesn't really
respect herself and the betterhe treats her, the less she
respects him.
It's this whole like bad cyclethat I just see going on and on,
and.
And it's funny because if theguy just acted slightly
different, he could still bewith the same girl.
He'd just get a lot morerespect, she'd treat him better,
less likely to cheat on him,you know, she'd be sucking his

(30:08):
dick on command and she'd behappier to do it because she
would have more respect for theguy.
So it's like I just see theserelationships where there's such
a disparity in value, which isfine.
You can date down, you can datea chick that's like just so
happy to be with you becauseI've done that and I actually
like that.
I don't mind it as long as she,like is in that mindset of like
I'm so happy to be with thismotherfucker, let me do anything

(30:31):
I can to make him happy withthis motherfucker.
Let me do anything I can tomake him happy, as opposed to
her being like damn, this guy'sa fucking sucker.
Let me see how much money I canget out of him, which is the
the side that I see more oftenthan not as do I, unfortunately.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
But um, I know we can go in so many different
directions.
I know that.
You know you're limited on time.
First of all, I didn't say thisbeginning of the show.
Thank you, bro.
I know you're gonna jump on ajet in a couple of days' time.
I don't know if you want tobreak that news or not, but
regardless, you put time in yourday to come and pull this off
for us and I appreciate that,man.
So that's why, with your lifeand knowing you more now, since

(31:06):
I've been in Vegas and the book,so many different fucking
topics, so many hats you've worn, but I do want to cover because
obviously it's a little closeto home for you too your time,
uh, in seals training and thatfucking horrific battle, you,
you put on yourself to, to getthrough to hell week twice.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Yeah, yeah, that was.
Um, that was a tough period ofmy life because I put so much
into it and then to get kickedout one day before graduation
after doing like the whole thingtwice, it was a tough pill to
swallow for sure.
Um, I think that that militarytraining was probably some of
the best stuff that I did,though, honestly, because I went
from living in a big house tobeing in the shitty little
fucking barracks and I think,like, my level of appreciation

(31:50):
for all these different thingsjust went through the fucking
roof and I realized that a lotof the happiness and stuff that
I that I found was throughachieving things getting through
first phase or getting throughsecond phase, or accomplishing
things as opposed to havingthings, because when I was a
military, I was poor as amotherfucker.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
I mean, I was like smuggling steroids up my ass to
save 150 dollars that I couldhave paid, a bunch of which we
need to talk about.
You can't just skim over thatfucking topic.
Yeah, it's a technical term.
This audience is bodybuilders,bro.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
No, I mean, listen, I've always been open about the
drug stuff.
You know, I think a lot of guyskind of hide it and I think
it's not something that youngguys should be doing and I
wouldn't encourage it.
But I do think that too manyyoung guys do it without
knowledge and if you do it tooyoung you're gonna fuse your
epiphyseal plates not yourgrowth, like you know there's,
there's definitely some bignegatives grow tits if you don't

(32:42):
understand, like thearomatization process, and you
know there's competitiveblockers, there's aromatase
inhibitors, there's like a lotof stuff that guys don't know
they're just like oh, I'm justgonna blast 500 milligrams of
test, I'm gonna get jacked.
Yeah, exactly that's what I readonline everybody says trend is
good, so let me just start withthat.
You know it's like dude.
My first cycle was fucking like50 to 150 milligrams of uh deca

(33:05):
, like literally just in theready jack string with an 18
gauge, because I didn't know, Ididn't have the fucking
literature.
But I still gained 15 pounds onthree weeks and I would have
done it longer.
I just got sent out to afucking base and I couldn't
smuggle it back from mexicoanyway.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
Wait come on, come on , I'm trying to pull this story.
I'm trying to pull this storyout.
They're in the book.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
They're in the book, but we gotta hear these stories.
But come on so okay.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
So the first time I I ever did steroids was I just
got, not I just gotten kickedout of SEAL training.
I had finished how week?
I went through natural and I'dalways been curious about it,
because my cousin, he had bigarms and he did a D-ball cycle,
grew breasts and fucking lostsome of his hair, but he got big
arms.
I was like I want big arms, soI was like maybe it's worth it

(33:48):
Fuck his hair.
Yeah, fuck that, who cares?
And so it was always somethingI was curious about.
But I was scared because he hadhad like some pretty negative
side effects, because he didn'thave any knowledge.
He didn't have any of the youknow, like the aromatase
inhibitors, you know.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
nobody even really knew what aromatase was there
really wasn't any knowledge backthen and there was no internet.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
No, I had like Anabol .

Speaker 2 (34:10):
You just fucking stole it out of my mouth.
That was like the book the bodybowl.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
And I read that motherfucker cover to cover
multiple times.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
I may have read it once or twice, yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
And so you had that, but you didn't have like a
YouTube video even to like showyou how to inject the shit,
right?
So I had no fucking idea.
So I ended up like I said firstcycle.
I go across the border reallybad forget about the steroids
just being down there anyways.
So I'm like in the back of afucking mexican like veterinary

(34:38):
pharmacy and I got some fuckinglike pablo, fucking like open
hand, slapping my ass and thenblasting in an 18 gauge harpoon
which, like fucking bledeverywhere just a screwdriver
just to shoot me with with a 1cc of 50 milligrams per cc of
deca.
It looked like a decent amount,like, okay, this is like a dose,

(34:59):
like maybe I read that bookwrong, like I don't know.
So I did that and then I waslike and then I was like read
the book like three times in thedeca section, I was like, fuck,
200, 200 milligrams seems likethe minimum.
I was like, okay, maybe I'll do100, like I don't want to grow
tits.
So the next time I did like thetwo cc's and then I think I did
um three, and then they had toput them in like a different

(35:20):
syringe, because when I did thetwo, I did one in each cheek and
then the three, I just had themput it in a three cc needle.
Anyways, I gained 15 fuckingpounds.
I just got out of you know sealtraining.
I was fucking like malnourished.
I just finished how week, likehow week is like you know, five
days, five and a half days withno sleep and running 144 miles,
all this crazy shit.
So I had stress fractures and Iwas fucking broke down.

(35:43):
I was like 165, like 165 pound,like fucking scrawny dude, and
I did this I never forget.
I did three weeks of deca, notest base which I guess I
probably didn't need because Ihad natural tests and I gained
15 pounds and for the first timein my life I looked like I
actually worked out.
I still look like shit, but Ilooked like I might have been in

(36:06):
the gym here or there and I'venever been so angry.
I truly understood the meaningof road rage on 150 milligrams
of Deca, apparently, when theytold me that I had to go out to
the island because that was like.
You know.
I was like in this fucking,this goddamn thing.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Throw it right back down.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
I'm trying to figure out somewhere to put it where
it's not fucking me.
Anyways, they sent me out tothe island.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
You want to help him put it back in there and, yes,
somewhere with me.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
Anyways, they sent me out to the island.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
You want to help him put it back in there, and, um,
yes, give him more when it's notlike.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
Poland.
Give him some more length,there we go.
Yeah, that's what I told thesurgeon.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
I set you up for that bro, and you just went right
over your head, anyway you're onthe way to the island, anyway.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
So, yeah.
So they tell me I gotta go outto the island and I fuck like I
didn't care that I had, like youknow, sweet floors, or that I'd
just gotten kicked out of sealtraining, or that I was a
fucking loser, that I wasprobably going to ship, or that
my dad thought I was a fuckingscumbag, or that I had no money,
or that I wasn't getting anypussy.
I was pissed.
I didn't have no more steroids.
I was like, forget the rest.
I was like literally ready tolike destroy my entire apartment

(37:10):
.
I was so much angrier that Ididn't have my steroids and I
couldn't work out than that Igot kicked out of seal training
after spending like a year of mylife and get my dick fucking
kicked in the.
I was so much fucking morepissed about the fucking lack of
juice, but anyway, so I juststopped cold turkey, lost like a
lot of my gains and um, butthat kind of like broke the seal

(37:32):
and uh, and then I never reallylike did any like hardcore
cycles.
But the next, when I went toseal train the second time I was
taking it's like a hundredmilligrams of test and I was
taking like 200 milligrams ofEcopoy and I got some HGH
prescribed from a doctor and itwas like dude, it was fucking
night and day.
I checked in at 178 pounds andI was like 193 by the time.

(37:53):
Like in doc rolled around, Ilike gained like 15 pounds of
muscle or 10 pounds of muscle,and I was faster too.
Yeah, and it was like thecraziest thing and I just felt
better.
Like it didn't help me to likecarry around all this fucking
muscle, but I didn't care.
I was like so happy that I hadit and I just I'll never forget

(38:16):
like the recovery and just kindof like I don't know you just it
was just like the perfect drugfor SEAL training, Cause you're
getting a small amount of sleep,Like you need to be fucking
motivated, you need to be gungho, and it was just like going
through on the sauce versusnatural was like.
It was like a different sport.
Plus I was in better shape too.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
Was it other guys also?

Speaker 1 (38:32):
Oh, for sure.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
Really.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
Yeah, for sure, I mean I literally went down with
other guys to get shit.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
That is true, I know for sure.
And talking of that story, theTijuana, we kind of leave that
off the table, dan.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
It was actually Ensenada.
We'll let it go, yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
So anyways, yeah, we went down to Ensenada and we
went to like this um, it's likeveterinary, but not veterinary.
It's like for horses.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
Um, it was like it's not a vet, it was like it was
for cattle, like like cattle andhorses.
It wasn't you know and uh.
So we went in there and it waslike literally like dirt floor
and um, we just got a bunch ofshit and I remember I got, I got
my.
All I got is test neck boys.
My buddy is like you know, hejust shot like an entire bottle
of windstroke.
It's like, you know, shootingit was cheap but like bringing
across the border right and so,which is like a horrible idea

(39:23):
because it's like super fastanyways.
So we're like, well, you know,we don't want to get caught, but
we don't want to keep comingdown here every fucking week.
So we're like we'll just stickit up our ass and you know
keister it.
And you know my buddy's likewell, you know, if we put it in
a condom, we use lube, it's notgoing to be that bad.
So we're like in this bathroomstall and I can only imagine

(39:46):
what the people heard.
I didn't really think about itfrom like the outside.
So there's definitely likeother people in the bathroom.
We found this out and we hadleft the bathroom and the entire
restaurant was like staring atit.
I could hear a fucking mousefart in this place.

Speaker 3 (39:58):
Hold on, it was like one guy shoving it into the
other guy's butt.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
The things that were heard was like I can't get this
in my fucking ass.
Quit being such a fucking pussy.
You know, give me some lube.
It was just like the thingsthat you heard.
I mean we're either smugglingdrugs or we're each other in the
ass.
I don't know what should beworse he's a mule, he's a mule
so we walked out and we're alljust like sweating.

(40:22):
And then we had a drive acrossthe border which was damn near
like two hours and I'll neverforget like when we you know the
board when you go up to theborder, it's like it wasn't as
bad as now, because now you needlike a passport and all this
shit, yeah, but like they stillask you fucking questions and
like in your mind you're like oh, these guys are like human lie
detectors they know yeah, wecan't give any information off.

(40:44):
And yeah, meanwhile we're likesweating profusely with ac max
like maximum anxiety, like totalfreak out mode.
You're also like clenching yourass because you got a turtle
head of fucking steroidssticking out at all.
You know it's just like, andyou're kind of like the prairie
dog in.
Oh, it's a little prairie doghorrendous and can't be saying a
law yeah, it was so bad and so,anyways, I just remember like

(41:06):
being fucking positive that wewere going to be pulled into
secondary and then likeimagining, like running through
in my mind, like all thedifferent scenarios of, oh,
we're going to be in secondaryand I'm just going to shit my
pants and it's going to come out, and it comes.
Yeah, it was really bad.
We ended up making it acrossand it was five minutes across
the border.
My buddy's like pull over, pullover, pull over.

(41:26):
We're like fuck OK, so we pullover and he literally just drops
, trow in the middle of aGoodyear parking lot and shats
out his fucking juice and thenobviously he's not going to just
leave it there.
So he goes through his shit andpicks up the condom and gets in
the car.
We're just like come on, bro.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
What the?

Speaker 1 (41:43):
fuck.
So all the windows are down butit's like wafting the smell,
it's just horrendous.
So we had another 10 minutessmelling his shit on the way to
the house and I remember we justlike literally like jam the
thing in park and like blastedthrough the front door and this
girl who had loaned us her carwas making me chicken at the
time.
And I remember my buddy, justlike there was one bathroom, I
fucking blasted in there andlike fired this thing into the

(42:06):
shitter and my buddy just likepanic, looking around the room.
He's like the only thing hecould identify that he could
shit in was the sink, which alsohad the chicken.
She's like one leg up justfires a shit right into the sink
.
And this girl's just horrified.
Just she's like what have youbeen using my truck?
It was like still running onthe curb.
I never get.
She just like looked at us likewhat the fuck turned around,

(42:32):
ran out of the apartment.
I just like never saw her again, not that I wanted to Explain
that.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
Yeah, no, she definitely ran.
Remember the story she saysabout Dan.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
That guy came to my house and shit in my fucking
sink.
Yeah, projectile shit Rightinto my chicken.
You don't know Dan.
You don't know Dan.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
Shit in my sink.
To be fair, I didn't shit inher sink.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
I friended, but regardless, I didn't shit in the
nursing room, I friended.
But regardless, you know thestory gets twisted bro.

Speaker 3 (42:54):
You know how it goes.
That's that guy.
He's shitting my sink.
That's that guy.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
But yeah, you got all the way to the end of Hell Week
again.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Well, way through Hell Week I got one day before
graduation.
So Hell Week is you had like Idon't know, like one to two
months of indoctrination, whichis kind of the same shittiness
as first phase, and then you dohow week, like three weeks into
that.
So you're kind of like a fewmonths in a couple, two and a
half months into training andthen um, and then you've got

(43:23):
another damn near six monthsafter that.
So I was like way beyond.
And then I got.
I actually got one day forgraduation there and then I got
rolled all the way back to thevery beginning of second phase,
then did all that shit again andthis is the second time that I
went to Bucs.
But yeah, it was fuckingmiserable, man.
But you know it's funny becauselooking back now I'm just so

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happy that I didn't graduate,but at the time I thought it was
the worst thing, that navy sealand feel like I'd like climb
the mountain, you know yeah, butyour life would have taken a
way different turn.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
I wouldn't have like that insecurity to drive me to
do all the crazy shit that I did, and I think in doing that I
realized that that also probablywasn't what I wanted to spend
the rest of my life doing, but Ithink it was one of those
things that I just had to do inorder to know.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
In the book you talk about you trying to gain that
respect from your dad too, andthat's why you kind of went into
the military to chase thatright.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
Yeah, I didn't get a lot of attention or respect from
him growing up and so I figuredthat would be.
You know, he was in Vietnam andhe volunteered to go in and he
was an officer and all thisstuff.
And then he was an officer andall this stuff.
So I figured if I did that thathe'd have to respect that and
also I just figured it would getme pussy and I wanted to brag
about it.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
I really just did it to get laid For the usual
reasons.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
We're talking, of which you guys have known each
other.
What 20 years.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
No less than that, I think 12.
Okay, I moved out here in 09.
Yeah, I moved out here in 09.
Yeah, I moved out in 09.
And we briefly met a few times,but we didn't actually start
hanging out, I don't think,until probably more recently.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
Yeah, 2020, really.
2019, really hardcore.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
And 2020, when everything shut down, we were
out doing something every dayyeah, we had mutual friends, but
it was one of those thingswhere I was like I was in la
most of the time.
I was gambling.

Speaker 3 (45:19):
It was like you know, we had similar circles, would
see each other, but but back in2008, when, uh, and I don't know
if I even told you, but I thinkyou know this, I think we
talked about this, but we werebasically, we were basically
banging the same girl, oh shityou gotta tell us it was 100%.
This wasn't the only one it wasnot the only one, but this one

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was like playmate of the yearand like there was like I don't
know she was playing in themiddle of both sides.
But there was like a time whereshe was like well, dan says
he's gonna kill you and like forme, you know, like for me
that's like a bull going red andI'm like really, and I'm trying
to get to Dan Fleshman and getto some people, to get to him,

(46:03):
because I'm that guy right, andwe end up meeting up, we end up
becoming friends about it,laughing about it and yeah to
the point, literally like he wassaying anytime I date any girl,
I have to send them over.
And he's like hold on, I've gotto verify this, you can't date
her yet.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
I've got to verify this.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
I've got to go.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
There's a couple of us, it's like between us, like
somebody in the group's likesorry, Somebody's fucked her or
no somebody's fucked her.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
It was funny she actually did the same thing with
her ex him that I that I wantedto kill him.
That told me that he wanted tofight me.
It was like wow like wanted tofeel important, I think all the
time, um, but yeah, it's funny,man, it's uh, it's funny.
Looking back, you know, um, butI think a lot of girls do stuff
like that, like they want, theywant people, they want guys to

(46:47):
compete for them, they want tofeel important, you know.
So they'll start a lot of this.
You know drama, um, and you seeit, you know you see a lot of
these chicks they'll likeliterally start fights, um, you
know, and uh, and just you know,they'll feel validated because
two guys are fighting for him.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
You know how have you been able to navigate through
all these girls withoutboyfriends?
Just turn up at your fuckinghouse um, I mean.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
So I tried actually, like like once I got famous, I
actually tried not to fuck anygirls that had boyfriends or
husbands, unless they werechicks that were just like
massively cheating on the guysanyways.
And then I made that exception,but it was just one of those
things where there was such anabundance that I felt so in
college it was like, well, if achick will fuck me, she'll fuck
anybody.
So there wasn't really likemuch responsibility there.

(47:32):
But I felt like later on therewas girls that might not have
otherwise cheated, but becauseit was me, they would fuck me,
and and the worst part about itwas it was because their
boyfriend had like said howgreat I was, so they'd be like,
oh well, my boyfriend's sayingthis guy's great, then I better
go find out for myself, you knowso, yeah, so I I didn't, you
know like want to do that,because I didn't really give a
shit.
If I fucked one more girl, whatdoes it matter?

(47:54):
But if I wreck some guy'smarriage or his relationship,
then you don't want that on theconscious.
Yeah, no, and I would.
I would also like tell some ofthese guys too, like, by the way
, your girlfriend's a fuckingwhore, yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
Here's the.
Here's the DM.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
Well, I didn, yeah, I Well.
I mean like also I put in thebook some of the ones too.
There was like this one chickthat came over.
She turned her phone off forlike 24 hours, was banging me.
He was already pissed that shewas like naked on my jet.
Then she was banging me andthen she like turned her phone
on after talking shit about himthe whole dinner and the first

(48:37):
thing she said to him was likehey, have you fed the dog?
Like I mean these chicks arejust ruthless dude.
And so after seeing enough ofthat stuff that was another
reason why I kind of want to dothis course I just like felt bad
for these dudes.
I don't think there's, I don'tthink a lot of guys realize,
like how conniving andmanipulative some of these girls
are and they're so blinded byit.

(48:57):
And I've seen it because youknow I was like that guy.
You know I was like the guythat they would like come over
and bang and then they wouldhave these you know boyfriends
that would like be laughingabout it at dinner or tell their
girlfriends like stories, andI'm just like I just fucked you
in the ass and she's liketalking about like her
engagement.

Speaker 3 (49:11):
It's like you know it's just crazy shit Can you not
talk about the engagement whileI'm fucking you in the ass,
really not doing it for me.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
I literally had a girl answer the phone while I
was fucking her.
She told me before she's likeoh shit, I have to answer this.
My boyfriend's getting pissedoff and I'm just like okay.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
Great idea.
I'm not stopping Great idea.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
I'm not losing momentum right now, and she's
like I'm in a movie with mygirlfriends.
I'll call you out Like what?
The All in one breath, yeah itwas so crazy.
Some of the stuff that I sawand I talk about some of the
stuff in the book, like thegirls that went on the boat and
left their boyfriend on the pier.

Speaker 3 (49:50):
And we're like, we're not.
You've told me before and youknow, because it's just to have
the manpower to get through five, six, seven girls in one day.
Like, tell us a little bitabout that, because I've been
around a lot of dudes who rockstars and you know they're in
that.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
But your numbers, your numbers.
Well, they got Cialis every dayLike fucking Skittles.

Speaker 3 (50:11):
But don't you get tired?

Speaker 1 (50:18):
Like after, like fucking skittles or a, but don't
you get tired?
Like after like the fourth one,aren't you like?
I'm just tired, dude, I don'twant nothing in the tank.
Yeah, I don't know, man, I likethe example that I give, the
only one that seems toillustrate.
It would be like if abillionaire is walking down the
street and he saw a hundreddollar bill, he's always gonna
pick it up, like I guess,because when I was growing up I
didn't get a lot of pussy.
I just felt like there was ahot chick that wanted to fuck me
and I was a bitch, you know, itwas kind of like and it came
from early on, like you are.
Yeah, like you're not fulfillingyour duties as a man.
You know, and it was, I thinkit came from like early on, when

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I would see a hot girl and if Ididn't go talk to her I would
just internally beat myself uplike you fucking pussy.
You know this and that myinternal pulverizing myself
would be much worse than anyrejection and could get.
And I made sure of that becausethen it like forced me to talk
to girls like nah, like I gottaI'd come up with all these
reasons, like I gotta catch thisfucking flight, or you know I'm

(51:02):
late to class, but it's like nomotherfucker, go do it.
You know, go do it.
And so I think that likeinsecurity, and then like also
that man code, and then plus thetestosterone, and then plus the
cialis, and then also the stemcells, led to a situation where,
like if, given the opportunity,like I just had to do it yeah
and the sex addiction.
It was like a tornado of shitthat caused this direct result.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
What is the biggest number on the board?

Speaker 1 (51:28):
um, in one day, I think nine, that's the number
I'm like, yeah, that's a lot ofwork in one day, walk bro the
next day.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
Did you still work out?

Speaker 1 (51:37):
Of course, absolutely .
I never missed the fuckingtraining.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
No, you don't.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
Yeah, and I and I would almost rarely ever like
stop a workout to bang umtraining.
I had like a hierarchy.
It was like training, weed andpussy were like interchangeable
and then like eating, showeringand work.
Right at the bottom of thebottom.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
Priorities.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
How long have you been into it?
Because the training, becausesince you and I met.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
Yeah, well, fuck, I think we all know that's it.
Since I figured it out, howlong have you been into pussy?

Speaker 2 (52:15):
No, because you and I met originally.
Fuck me, I think I was trainingfor the Mr Olympia in 2014.
We met at City Athletic, that'sright.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
I saw this guy walking around like Look at the
fucking guy's forearms, likewhat the fuck is going on?

Speaker 3 (52:28):
He just showed me a picture the other day and I was
just like God damn bro, like youlook like he's stung by 100
bees in his photo.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
I'm like I don't know who he is, but he's got to be
somebody important inbodybuilding.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
He's too big not to be.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
There was like Steve Aoki, and I think it was like
the first time I'd taken insulinor something.
I was feeling like really goodabout myself.
I just shoulder pressed likethe 75-pound dumbbells and I
gained like 17 pounds in a veryshort period of time.
And then and then I went to godo um muay thai and my trainer's
like dude, he's like you, notonly do you look like a bag of

(53:00):
shit, he goes, you're movinglike you're moving through mud.
Like yeah, I feel really badtoo I feel like that.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
oh yeah, I also feel like you're correct.
Uh, but go back to the citylike and we seen each other, we
said what's up, but then, assoon as you left the gym I can't
remember if I messaged you oryou messaged me, but either way,
like first, straight into ityou asked me so many high-level
questions and all ourconversations you're just a

(53:29):
wealth of knowledge.
Like a seeker of knowledge, Iwould say.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
Definitely a lot smarter than he looks.
And again, I want people toknow too.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
Like you're so data-driven as well.
We talk about so much stuffwhich a lot of people would not
expect You're so data-driven,obviously.
We've got the whoop on.
You've got fucking all therings whooping.
Oh, he verifies all three.
He verifies all three.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
But again, he got me into it.
He actually forced me into it.
When, then, I forced you intoit?
Yeah, that's what happened.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
Yeah, like, once you get that data, it's hard to not
have it, I mean.
And also you start to see thecorrelation between like oh, I
drank or I took a sleeping pilland like that negatively
affected my deep or my rim andnow I feel like shit today or
I'm not like cognitively sharp,and so you see like a lot of
downstream effects.
You also understand howimportant your recovery and your
sleep is, and so I think onceyou start tracking stuff, it's

(54:19):
it's hard to not have thatinformation yeah, I'm like
addicted to it.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
We, we like, every morning.
It's like you know I'll hit youlike, would you sleep?
Would you sleep like you know?
I'm tracking the calories, butI remember you weren't too into
it.
Flex, when we first approached,you went to you might have you
might have said I will not quoteyou.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
Well, again, you kind of Dan, you and then maybe one
or two other people Were alltalking about it and I was like
I feel fucking left out hereBecause I knew I was sleeping
shit.
But then when you've got thatdata Over a period of time, you
can analyze and be like, and yousee the difference In what
you've done in that day.
You know, like you said, ifyou've had a drink or whatever
else.
Um, but I don't sleep fuckingmuch about four hours.

(55:01):
But this is not about me allthree of us here.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
Yeah, we're all.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
We're all asleep what are you monitoring yourself
like?
What are you looking at right?

Speaker 1 (55:10):
so hrv resting heart rate um, there's a decent amount
of metrics that I think areimportant, but the, the HRV is a
pretty good indicator of, like,how you're recovering, um, and
then the quality of your sleep,like the stages that you get in,
um.
I just cause I also have sleepapnea too, so, like, my sleep is
just very precious, and I feellike I've never been able to,

(55:30):
like run a ton of gear, and soin order for me to try and you
know, maximize my performance, Ijust have to get to sleep.
That's the one factor that Ihave a decent amount of control
over.
So I try and just max that out,because without recovery it's
kind of a fucking.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
You're spinning wheels.
Yeah, what part in your lifedid you go all into this,
getting the research and beinglike, wow, this is fucking
interesting and I want to changemy body by diving.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
you know, diving into this well, the body stuff was
always interesting to me.
Like I started lifting weights,I think, when I was 15 ish,
when I was playing, uh, baseballin high school, and then
obviously the military was awhole nother step up because it,
like your physical performanceis just fucking everything, um.
And then when I got on thejuice, then that added like a

(56:18):
whole nother list ofcalculations, because now you're
the way I would describe it islike it's like you're going from
driving a fucking I don't knowMustang to a fucking Tesla no, I
would never drive a Tesla.
So it's not like driving, that'slike being gay, but no, I mean,
like a fucking mustang is goingto go around the track a

(56:41):
hundred times, you're nevergonna break down, but it's not
gonna be that much fun, right.
But like a fucking race car,you're gonna have to tune it,
you're gonna have to do this,you're gonna do that and it's
gonna break down more often.
It's gonna be more expensive,it's gonna be a pain in the ass,
gonna monitor shit when you'redriving that.
Motherfucker.
It's fun, you know.
And so I think when I startedfucking around with that, like I
wanted to understand it,because only in understanding it

(57:01):
can you like really tune therace car, and I had shitty
genetics too, so I wanted tocounter that, um, but yeah, so I
was kind of like into that, butI didn't ever really like run
cycles that often.
It was just always just prettymuch like hT and then eating the
five meals a day and likeunderstanding, like glycemic
index and you know, doing um,carb loading and and and keto

(57:24):
and just just experimenting withall the different ways that you
can manipulate your, your bodyfat, um, and then I think it was
probably fuck, I want to sayaround covid ish time, I think.
Then I started like getting allthe stats and I did the whoop,
because I wasn't doing that whenI was fucking partying, I know

(57:46):
that for sure.
So it definitely wasn't untillike after 19, um, but yeah,
then I started like you know,monitoring it, checking my sleep
and um, and kind of doing moreon the biohacking side, like the
peptides and all that Um, butI've always been into it, you
know, like from the nutritionside to the you know training
side and the different types oftraining.

(58:07):
Um, more recently I've actuallybeen doing like I will do and I
and I and I did this with J-Rocktoo I'll do like a you know set
on bench of like 95 pounds onincline, and then I'll do 135.
And I'll do like you knowwhatever, 10 or 15 reps of that,
and then I'll do like a fewreps of 185.
And then I'll go to 225.

(58:28):
And I'll do like 12 or 13.
I'll just like go all the way,all the way, ball to the wall
with that one set 225 pounddumbbells.
No, no, no, Fucking, no, oh my.

Speaker 3 (58:37):
God I was like jeez, you fucking beast, calm down
flex.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
Well, that's what my brain was going to say.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
You know that your lifts are unimpressive when they
don't know if it was a bar or adumbbell and the possibility is
there that it could be donewith a dumbbell.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
You know you're not lifting.
When you said 185, I was likethat's fucking quite a lot of
weight but what is it?

Speaker 3 (58:57):
Mike Metzger was the guy.
Yeah, heavy duty, yeah, heavyduty, it's like one set to the
fucking balls, to the wall.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
And also another thing that I noticed too is when
I decreased some of the volumeI actually got better results
too, and I would see that withthe HRV, because I would go in
and I would just fuckingannihilate my legs.
One thing about going throughthat crazy military train is you
realize you can push your bodyway fucking further than you
ever imagined.
When you swim seven miles inthe ocean and you do this crazy

(59:23):
shit, you realize that yourfucking mind is a big governor
of what you can do.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
Watch for stress factors.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
Those don't help, that is the mind of a matter.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
Right that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
It's a lot more true with endurance, right, like with
fucking running.
Like you could just go out andfucking probably go run a
marathon right now.
I know you think that youcouldn't, but if I had a gun to
your head and I was going tokill your family if you didn't
go run 26 miles, you're going togo run 26 fucking miles.
Gay ass cyclists were likethere's zero percent chance you
can fucking ride 300 miles in 48hours, like I was like what do

(59:59):
you mean zero percent?
They're like it's physicallyimpossible and I'm like fuck, is
this like the gallon of milkchallenge?
We're like it sounds you can'tdo it.
Like what?

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
the fuck.
You know hot chip challenge.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
It's like no spoiler, like cyclists are just fags um
but like well speaking ofcyclists.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
Well, hold on, I think he's yeah but, but.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
But the point is it was just like it was not that
hard.
I did it in 32 hours, a fewweeks of training.
It was just like so.
Anyways, the point that I'mmaking is, with endurance you
can just go fucking way beyondwhat you think that you can do.
And I think a part of it too iswith running.
The first mile always sucks.
Whether you can run 100 milesor 50 miles, the first mile
always sucks, and most peopledon't get through the first mile

(01:00:38):
so they go.
Look at like david guys, likeoh my god, that guy's suffering
for four hours straight or 20hours straight.
It's like no.
Like once you get past thatlike initial warm-up, it's like
it's not that big a deal.
You just can feel like you canjust go and go when you're in
good cardio shape.
But with the training what Ifound is like I was, I was able
to just like really, reallyfucking push to the point where
it was counterproductive, likewhen I would go hit legs and I

(01:01:00):
would do it super fucking hard,and every set was like almost a
failure.
I wouldn't be able to sleepthat night, like I don't know if
, like, my central nervoussystem is overloaded, or like
what it was, but I would justalways get shit sleep after like
a super hardcore leg day.
So I started like splittinglegs from like quads and ham, so
I just do one and do a littlebit less volume.
I started doing the menswearthing and I just felt like I got

(01:01:20):
better results, better recovery, more strength and I actually
did less volume.
It's kind of like the girlthing, like sometimes you can do
less effort in a better way andhave a better result
interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
I do want to go back to something that you skimmed
over Again with Dan and thesestories.
Unless you know these storiesto pull them out, you just say
something and just just fuckingpart of the conversation, the
training you done for that betyou hired Lance Armstrong.
Oh, that's right.
And you just said yeah, I donesome weeks of training and not

(01:01:52):
only did you get within that 48hours, you had a 33, 37?
, 32.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
32,.
There we go.
So I actually didn't even hirehim.
I mean, I ended up donating tohis charity because it wouldn't
take any money.
But he actually reached out toJoe Rogan and was like hey, can
I train Dan?
And Joe hit me up and was likehey, lance wants to train you.
Is it okay to give him yournumber?
I was like like the first thingthat I asked him when I got on

(01:02:18):
the phone with him was like okay, dude, like what's the drug?
like give me the drug and hejust like didn't want to talk
about it.
Like bro, I can get anybody toteach me how to like come on,
bro, like I want you, you know,like, I know, you know, and he
just like didn't want to fuckwith it, um and uh, and so I
just ended up doing like alittle bit higher hrt and didn't
really change anything.
Um, but I, I was always kind ofcurious about that, like what

(01:02:41):
endurance athletes would youknow?
Like you know they did the epoand blood doping and stuff like
that.
But as far as like, the hormonestuff because they're also on
hormone protocols, like whatexactly is that?
Because I know there's, you know, with certain stuff there's not
only is it like diminishingresults, it's like negative,
like when I do, when I triedAnivar, it fucked up my HDL, my

(01:03:02):
LDL, my cardio went to shit, youknow.
So there's definitely like andI think it's more with the like
really anabolic steroids,especially it seems like the
ones that you don't hold anywater with it it seems to have
the worst effect, that it seemsto have the worst effect, at
least for me, on mycardiovascular output.
So I was just kind of curious,like you know, what do boxers do
?
Or what do endurance athletesyou know what I mean Like, what
is their cocktail?

(01:03:22):
And I was always kind ofcurious about that.
I figured I would get to youknow, hear it from him, but I
didn't, that's crazy Like Iwould have.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
okay, I've got everything you have on the table
.
Just point to what I need touse.

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
Yeah, exactly like you know, maybe your doctor just
forwarded me something I mean,did he give you any like bike
lessons or like how to breathe,and like you know a little?

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
bike.
Yeah, I mean like there was onething take him on the red rock
loop we actually did somedrafting because I was able to
have a car that I could draft.
So we did some vehicle drafting, which is actually like harder
than you think.
What is that?
So they do it in the tour defrance and all that.
Like it's basically, if you getbehind somebody, there's a lot
less wind resistance so you cango a lot faster with less effort

(01:04:03):
, and that gets um magnified ifit's a vehicle right.
So like it's like, if there'szero wind resistance you can go
a lot faster.
Really, like the limiting factoron a bicycle is how it's geared
.
And then your wind resistance.
It's not so much like your legstrength or whatever.
So if there is no windresistance, they've had guys
that I mean that's how they gotup to like the record where I

(01:04:24):
mean I think a guy like pedaledto 100 miles an hour, I don't
know, there's like some crazyspeed, but he was like vehicle
drafting, um, and sometimes evenif, like the vehicle is
creating enough force, it canactually actually suck you
forward a little bit.
But anyways, so we did somevehicle drafting and it's touchy
because you can't really seewhat is directly in front of you
, because you have to stayreally close to that bumper and

(01:04:45):
if the motherfucker just tapsthe brakes, you're in that
vehicle.
So I saw this guy on YouTube.
It was crazy man.
He was vehicle drafting a dumptruck at 70?
At like 70 miles an hour and Iwas just like fuck, and it's
like to Metallica or something.
I would just like watch thatbefore I'd go for a bike ride.
It would get me all pumped up,but it was just fucking crazy.

(01:05:06):
This guy's going like 70 milesan hour and he's like fucking
inches from a dump truck and helike puts a GoPro on there and
then, like before he stopsriding, he like one arms at like
70 and like grabs the goproback off the back of the dump
truck, like inches from thething.
It was just like crazy to watch.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
But yeah, it's um the the wind resistance is a big
deal, oh fuck yeah, um, I wasgoing to say I know we're kind
of coming up on time.
I know, uh, there's a few moretopics that I can talk about,
but I don't know if there'sanything you'd want to pop it
off.
I want to talk about houseparties because, bro, that's how
I used to see all your stufffrom the UK the wild house

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parties, the chicks, thecelebrities.
I can give you a little bit onthat too, I know, but I want to
kind of talk about a little bitof that in this show before we
part ways, because you are a manof many house parties, many
celebrities and many stories,I'm sure can I give a few ground
rules of these parties beforeyou start in on that?

Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
first off, the scarcity model.
Like I'd be like trying tobring like, like, like,
celebrity dudes and he's like no, no, no, no, like, especially
not that fucking guy.
So the, the parties, bro, werethe.
The ratio in those parties wasincredible, like, and it was
hard not to.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
I mean 20 to 1, yeah, something like that like
minimum 10, like it was it was a10 to 1 like, it was pretty bad
, unless it was like really atscale.
I think my last one had likelike 300 guys and like 3 000
girls.
I remember it like startedbefore the party because I would
tell these girls like if youdon't want to shuttle, you could
, you can uber to my house, butyou got to be here early.
So I remember there was likeone point when I had like 1800

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girls and and like lingerie andthere was like two guys, like
one guy, like I had thesecontests and I would like fly
out like random guys to thesefucking parties just to blow
their mind, and it was funny,man.
There was like I remember onepoint there's 1800 girls in
lingerie in the house and therewas like these two dudes from
like idaho or wisconsin orwhatever the fuck they were from
, just like what what the fuckstepping into that world and one

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of those guys ended up makingout with christina hencher some
famous hot bitch on instagram,whatever and I was like somebody
got a video and I rememberreposting it and everybody's
like your life has changed, bro.

Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
Welcome to the club.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
Yes, you are outside of the matrix, um, but yeah, I,
I think I lost a lot morefriends throwing parties than
probably anything I ever did,because I would just I would not
let any guys in there.
I mean there was a lot of, Imean almost every athlete.
I said no to and like famousathletes, but I wanted it to be
a situation where there wasenough entertainment and enough

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like really big celebrities withthe girls wouldn't mind the
fact that they were having tofucking fight tooth and nail to
get some dick so that, like wecould have ran out of alcohol,
the fucking music could have cutoff, the fucking electricity
could have gone out, and thatthe fucking music could have cut
off, the fucking electricitycould have gone out, and that
party was going to be awesomefor all the guys there.
Because the fucking ratio iscrazy and, at the end of the day

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, the only thing that guys goout for is to get pussy.
That's it.
If you're a fucking single guy,you're not going to the club to
drink beers with your friends,you're not going there to dance
to the music You're going to getpussy.
Dance the music You're going toget pussy.
So I recognize that I didn'thave any qualms about that.
That was how it was.
But in order for the girls allto have fun, I had to create an
environment where there wasentertainment.

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Cardi B was performing, or Tyga, all these big artists, and
then I would have a Cirque duSoleil show.
I would have all this shit, andthen, when I did the pool
parties, I would have masseusesand champagne.

Speaker 3 (01:08:37):
Guys flying in and landing from helicopters.
That was more for me than thechicks, but it was still badass.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
Fucking RIP.
That dude is a stud.
But hair and pedicures andmanicures, just shit.
Right, they just had shit thatthey could do.
And then it also gave themexcuse to their boyfriends or
whatever, like why they werecoming over to my house.
Like I just want to get the freepedicure and the champagne you
know, but it was uh, it was alot of work to do those, but I

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think I set a standard of likewhat was a fucking gangster ass
party like I remember one time Ihad um, dj, carnage and diplo
and alesso all spinning on thetop floor and I was like in this
bed with like 20 somethingchicks and, uh, quaaludes were
kicking in.
I was just like looking around,it's just like nothing but hot

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chicks and it's like fuck, likeI did it.
You know, like that was themoment.
That was like the moment on topwhere I felt like good about it
.
I was like okay, like this isthe, I've perfected the setup.
There's nothing better.
There's no better part that'sever been thrown.
Like this is it?
And that was that was actually.
That felt pretty good.
I think I fucked like eightchicks that day um one off the

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record yeah, close, that's therecord.
And and that was like one of mylast parties and I just
remembered like okay, like I didit, like this is the top, like
we couldn't.
I don't think there's no way totop this.

Speaker 3 (01:10:02):
This was like probably like one of the best
parties ever been thrown Iremember the security team
looked like they were ready toget deployed into afghanistan.
You should have seen thesemotherfuckers like I'm like
snipers on the roof.

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
I had these dudes like little machine guns, like
because and I made sure of ittoo I was like I don't want a
fucking guard out there thatdoesn't have a shotgun or a
machine gun, like I wanteverybody like ex-military.
I had 70 of them like it was.
It was like security teams werelike, and I remember they were
like, why I'm like?
It's a show of force itdefinitely was nobody fucks

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around.
At my parties, like you, there'sno fucking rapper sneaking in,
like I don't want any bullshit,no fighting.
And yeah, it was just I don'tknow man.
It was just like whatever man,we're spending a million dollars
on the party, what the fuckdoes it matter?
You know, like get the securityguys.
I remember there was one timeit was kind of funny where the

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security guys got a a little outof line and there was too many
girls and they wouldn't leaveand they wouldn't get off my
driveway and there was this linebecause we had capacity.
There was capacity at theseparties.
It was crazy to get to thispoint.
These girls would be wrappedaround a fucking four city block
in lingerie and the guards weretelling them to leave and they
just wouldn't get off mydriveway.
And I think at the time- itstarted raining early.

Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
No, this is a different time.

Speaker 1 (01:11:17):
Okay, this was the one where they got the actual
fire hose and we're like hosingbitches off the driveway and
they're in heels, so they'relike fucking legs will be coming
out from my way like bro, I'mgonna get sued like stop.
You know like it's funny, butlike don't use it a horse funny,
but don't do

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
that, yeah, like.
Stop imagine your younger selfthinking I got all these hot
chicks in lingerie and I amhosing them away from the house
Blowing them off the drivewayliterally.

Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
No, they were getting , yeah, like a fire hose and
they were in heels on a slopeddriveway so it was like
literally blowing them off oftheir feet because they like
wouldn't walk off the thing.
But yeah, it was crazy.
The good old days, yeah, it wascrazy.

Speaker 3 (01:11:54):
The good old days.

Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
Yeah, then there was also the fights, too, of girls
that wanted to stay there andthe rooms were kind of overrun.
And I remember one time Alessiowas in the I always gave the
person that was performing thebig guest room and it was just
packed with chicks and he's likeit was funny because some of
them I don't think it was him,but there's another DJ that was

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like dude, like I need to getthese girls out of my room, but
he's like but I don't want toget them out of my room.
He's like but this is too many,he's like can you take some of
them?
And that was like the famousphoto that I took when I was in
my bathtub and I had like allthese naked chicks in there.
And I photo that I took when Iwas in the jacuzzi this is my

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bathtub and I had like all thesenaked chicks in there and I
actually posted on my instagram.

Speaker 3 (01:12:45):
I think they deleted it, um, and I just like took a
selfie and said to him I waslike I'm full here.

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
Yeah, I'll pull here, can't sit here like sorry, um,
but yeah it was.
It was fun, man, like it was.
It was everything that I everthought.
A playboy party was times 10.
Cause I went to the playboyparties and they weren't that
cool.

Speaker 3 (01:13:02):
I can verify that too , cause I threw a couple of
playboy parties midsummer's nicedreams and I'll say that Dan's
parties it definitely felt likethat right.
It felt like at that level, youknow cause playboy definitely
did do it Right, but I felt likethe guys even the guys were a
lot cooler that you had in a lotmore guys.

(01:13:23):
The guys that were in in dan'sparty were way cooler.
They weren't like creepyphotographer types, um, and
obviously playboy had the, themansion and the legend behind it
, but dan's parties definitelywas the first that like really
rivaled that.
And you know, without an entiremagazine and uh, you know yeah,
I mean, he had the pipelinedown.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
Yeah, motherfucking science.
Like I will give credit wherecredit's due.
Like he was first of all, he'sthe og.
He was the one that like setthe fucking stage for, like,
what was to be a playboy.
But um, you have to know we'retalking about absolutely legend
you know he had the, he had thepipeline figured out.
That was like that's a big partthat, like a lot of these rich
guys don't understand is, youknow they use their money to

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brag or, like you know, theytalk about it or whatever, but
they don't use it to create anenvironment where women have to
compete for them.
The Playboy Pipeline did forHugh Hefner was he just created
a situation where these girlswere constantly coming in,
fighting to stay at his house,fighting for a position in the
magazine, fighting for hisattention, and because of that

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it was just literally like theepitome of chasing.
So he would just sit back andhe would just choose.
He probably didn't have to haveany decent game at all.
He could be the creepiest,weirdest dude in the world and
just none of it mattered and hewas just going to have his pick
of the litter and that's what hedid for a long time and it was
interesting to watch that.
He was an inspiration.

(01:14:45):
But it's funny I say that.
But then later on in life whenI watched him with those three
bimbo fucking blonde girls onthat TV show, Holly TV show
Holly, bridget and Kendra.
Yeah, I saw it in a documentary.
I think it was after he died.
I remember watching that and Iwas just like fuck, like I do
not envy that situation becauseI know what it's like to be
there.
And he's also with three girlsthat aren't into him at all.

(01:15:07):
Yeah Well, bro, they're livingtheir own life.

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
I was dating one at the same time.

Speaker 3 (01:15:14):
Yeah, Like two out of the three.
There was one that was like hisgirl and then the other two
just had to kind of not haveanything public.

Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
Yeah, they were like banging basketball players and
they just like clearly were notinto him and it was kind of like
one of these things that waslike for the cameras and for us.
And it was just like I justlooked at that and I'm just like
this motherfucker got to bemiserable Because, like, I
haven't been doing this nearlyas long as him and I, if I'm 87
and I'm fucking- I'm out.
Three idiots like shoot me inthe face because you know, I
just got to a point in my lifewhere I'm just like I just had a

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lot more fun hanging with mybuddies doing shit that I like
to do and I look, I mean,getting pussy is fun and it's
great and it's something thateverybody should do.
So they figure out like whatthey like, what they don't like,
so they don't feel like whenthey're in a relationship later
that they might have missed outon something.
I think that's a big piece thatguys gloss over is if you
haven't kind of gone out thereand fucked a lot of girls and
had your fun, you're alwaysgoing to have a little bit of a

(01:16:05):
wandering eye.
I don't.
I could be in a relationshipnow and have some super hot
chick come up to me and try andfuck me and if I didn't fuck her
I wouldn't feel like I missedanything.
But if I was 25 years old and Iwas married and I was a mormon
guy and I only fucked a fewchicks, I would be thinking
about that shit for the rest ofmy life like what, what would
have that?

Speaker 3 (01:16:23):
been like yeah and so how does the other side live?

Speaker 1 (01:16:26):
yeah, so I just feel like it's good to get that out
of your system.
As a man, you know, I think 100yeah, otherwise it's just, it's
just impossible to be faithfulyou know is that you're at now
in life.
I could definitely do monogamy.
I've done monogamy.
I'm actually a proponent of it.
I feel like if you really likethe girl, it's very difficult to

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get a woman that is going to beinterested in you for the right
reasons that won't be reallyhurt by you fucking a bunch of
other girls, you know.
So it's.
It's just one of those thingswhere it sounds good in theory.
I've done it, you can do it to apoint it's never it's just so
hard and then there's justalways bullshit and fall out and
I feel like you can't really bein love and have like a solid,

(01:17:12):
really solid relationship whereyou feel like that person's got
your back and you got theirs andyou guys are like fucking
bonnie and clyde if you're outfucking a bunch of other pussy,
like there's just always gonnabe, you know, like that strain
on the relationship and I justdon't think it's necessary.
Like, like I said, I just don'tcare, like I'm at a point in my
life where I don't give a fuckabout banging hot chicks that
much.
It's just like it's fun to do,like, you know, not fucking gay,

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but I'm not going to schedulemy day around it.
I'm not going to spend fuckingfive hours a day scheduling the
pussy and doing all the shitthat I used to do.
I'm not going to let it consumemy life and if I don't have it,
I don't care.
I'm not going to fucking reallymiss it.
And so I think that was a bigdeal for me, especially as a sex
addict, beating that addiction.

(01:17:56):
So I feel good about that.
That's probably like one of mylike most proud accomplishments
is that a new?
thing is beating that sexaddiction.
I mean, I would say, I wouldsay around about the time my
book is when I beat all myaddictions, because I just
really zeroed in, focused onthat and I had one girl, um, she

(01:18:16):
was cool, she wasn't lizard,yeah, yeah, she was hot, she's
cool.
She's, like, you know, 18 yearold sex freak that just like
showed up my door on herbirthday and just never left it
wasn't something that I everexpected to like straight cat
that came in literally like Iwas like I was like you can come
for three days.
She's like please, let me comefor longer.
I'm like no, she's like howabout four?
I'm like okay, four is it?

(01:18:37):
You have to leave after fourdays.
And then she's like didn't leavethe negotiations it was a whole
thing, um, but I was just in aplace where I just I was so
focused on the book and doingthat that I just didn't want the
distractions.
It was like she was, you know,running around in lingerie and
like ready to bang me anytime Iwant to bang her, suck my dick
and while I was writing the bookor you know whatever, like any
time, any place.
So I had no need for the sexand I didn't really get tired of

(01:18:59):
banging her and she was cooland she's actually smart and she
was willing to do all the stuffthat I did, like mountain
biking, wake surfing, you know,free diving, whatever.
So it was just like.
You know, it was almost like aplaceholder.
I didn't obviously have any likeserious mental connection with
a fucking 18 year old, but, um,it was nice to not have the
distraction and I think some ofthe girls that I've dated in my

(01:19:20):
life it wasn't because they werethe hottest chick or the girl
that was like, you know, thesmartest or whatever.
It's just like.
Sometimes I just got to a placewhere I just didn't want to
deal with it and she was cool,she didn't cause no problems,
the pussy was good and she waslike into similar shit.
So it's just like okay, this isenough.
Like you?

Speaker 3 (01:19:38):
can start checking all the boxes.

Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
We're going to stay with this for a little while,
and then a little while turnedinto a longer while, and you
know, that was just some of therelationships that I had, and
some of those were monogamous,and it was just, and I didn't
mind it.
It was like whatever, I didn'tcare, I did want to fuck other
chicks.
At the end, I didn't want to doit behind her back.
So I did the right thing and Ibroke up with her.

Speaker 2 (01:19:57):
Such a jackass.

Speaker 1 (01:19:58):
Yeah, and then I went off on a crazy fucking tear
again, but my tears got shorter.
I think 2011, 12-ish was thefirst real crazy run, and that
one went until I was like 2016.
That was like balls to the wall, like fucking non-stop, like

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partying, gambling, like thatwas like I would say that was
like the motley crew era.
For me, that was like the dregsdrugs, sex and rock and roll
craziness prime ig too.

Speaker 2 (01:20:28):
What's that?
Was that prime ig for you, orwas that?

Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
um, yeah, that was like when I was blowing up on ig
, like Like initially, for thefirst time, I was getting famous
.
I just fucking won, you knowfucking $50, $100 million in
poker and I was you know, justshit was just going Like I got
my plane.
I was just like.
It was just like the Scarfacemoment when they're like running

(01:20:52):
into the bank with the fuckingduffel bags.

Speaker 3 (01:20:54):
Push it to the limit?
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:21:03):
It was like that was literally my life and I did that
until 2016.
And then I was like man, I needto chill the fuck out.
And I remember at that point Igot a girlfriend.
I did like the couple'svacations, like went to kawaii,
we're doing surf trips and shitlike that.
I was just so much happier andI was hanging with my buddies,
would play cards, I'd fuck mygirl at night, I'd hang with my
boys, would hit the gym, wouldfucking free dive, would surf,
would do all the shit that welike to do.
There was, you know, my girlwas there when I wanted her but
like, and she would hang withthe other girls.
It was just like.
It was just nice.

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There was no stress and I wasjust like man, like I'm so much
more at peace and so muchhappier doing this.
And I did that for like a year.
And then that was like when Iwas like okay, I gotta, I gotta
monetize this fame because I'mfucking taking pictures of every
asshole in every parking lotand I have no privacy, like I
gotta do something with this orI'm gonna regret it.
So then I kind of like wentinto Ignite just because I like
wanted to just finish thatchapter and then I, like you

(01:21:47):
know, kind of like went all theway to the limit there, but it
was less because I wanted to dothe crazy party and more for,
like, the brand, but like we didit on a whole because, like, in
order for it to be fun, we hadto do it like way bigger and way
crazier.
So I was doing it way biggerand way crazier, but I would
actually say that, like, the2015-16 was more nuts because it

(01:22:07):
was new and it was fresh and Iwas doing it because it was
fucking fun and I want to do itand I'd never done it before.
And like, also, back then,girls girls were, I feel, like a
lot crazier because everythingwasn't really on the internet
like it is now, and so it seemedlike, I don't know, it seemed
more rock star-ish then and thenlater I just didn't give a fuck

(01:22:30):
In 2019, I'd fucked so manygirls I didn't care, so it
didn't give me that dope meanhit.
I didn't go high-five my mybuddy like dude, I just fucked
two chicks in the bathroom likeit was just like whatever, like
none of it was just like any bigdeal.
Like I remember eatingbreakfast with my buddy.
I was like, yeah, he's like,what'd you do last night?
I was like, oh, I fucked likefive chicks or whatever.
It was just like it wasn't evenjust like oh, that's cool, you

(01:22:52):
know it's just normalconversation.
at this point, I've gotten sonumb to it that it just didn't
even hit a pleasure spike at all.
It was just like, oh yeah,that's what I was doing, and
then I just did it all the time.
It was just no big deal.
I got way more enjoyment out ofit in 15, 16.

(01:23:12):
I guess that was the bigdifferentiator.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
So into it, though everything that's been going on.
It seems like strip all thataway.

Speaker 1 (01:23:21):
You still, and most pleasurable thing for you is
just to be chilling out, hangingout with your guys 100% and
working out doing shit like thatjust makes me feel good, like
there's nothing better thansitting on your fucking ass on
the couch after you just fuckingblasted yourself into oblivion
in the gym.

(01:23:42):
Or you just did some fuckinglike long mountain bike.
You went surfing for two hourslike and just relax with your
friends, smoking weed, playingcards, like.
It's just nice, you know.
And it's like no distractions,no headaches, no stress, no
fucking stupid girls runningaround talking about stupid shit
, not having to like worry aboutlike who am I gonna fuck next?
Or is this chick mad about this?

Speaker 3 (01:23:57):
it's just none of it, all those girls out.
I feel like there's a lot ofstress added, like just trying
to to manage personalities,manage the situation.
It's like no, I just want to.
I don't want to have any ofthat stress 100 is there?
Is there a world where you seeyourself getting married, having
kids?

Speaker 1 (01:24:15):
I don't see much upside in marriage unless you're
going to have kids.
That would be the only timethat I think it would make sense
for a guy that has a lot ofmoney, unless it's like your
high school sweetheart thatshe's just been there, ride or
die from the beginning and it'sjust that would be different.
Like your situation is probablydifferent and you got kids and
it's just like I get that.
I do get that different.

(01:24:41):
And you got kids and it's justlike I get that.
I do get that.
But like if jason strauss wereto go get married, I'd be like
what the fuck are you doing?

Speaker 3 (01:24:44):
what are you doing like?
Come on, he's delayed a longtime, so I mean I get it, but
like what's the upshot?

Speaker 1 (01:24:49):
so I think it's different when it's somebody
that you like you know, is likebeen there for you, is down for
you, like the money's not athing.
I think, like once you, it'sreally hard to know if the I
mean who gives a fuck, ifthey're there for the right
reasons.
Anyways, like why make yourrelationship transactional?
And I feel like that's whatmarriage does.
Once you become rich and thenget married, like if you do it

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before and you guys growtogether and the whole thing,
like I get it.
It's different.
But if you're already successful, you're literally almost
putting a bounty on yourrelationship, because if she
marries you and then divorcesyou, she's getting $100 million,
she's getting $200 million.
Whatever it is, she's getting abig chunk of money.
And then also, I feel like thatjust disincentivizes her from

(01:25:33):
trying as hard.
And I think a lot ofrelationships are good because,
like one side is like reallytrying hard and the other person
appreciates that and the guylikes that attention and he
likes the fact the girl's likewaking him up with a blow job
every day and then now hemarried, marries her, and then
all of a sudden the blow jobstops.
She gets fat.
It's just like the fun stops.

Speaker 3 (01:25:52):
Yeah, the fun stops, it's like wait what?

Speaker 1 (01:25:54):
And then now he feels trapped because now it's like
okay, do I want to get new pussythat's going to cost me $200
million, or do I just want tocheat on the side?
And then he kind of resents her.
It's just this whole thing andit's unnecessary.
And to me the bestrelationships are ones where
it's like yours, where it's beenfor a long time and whatever,

(01:26:16):
or a relationship where, likeyou guys are both hanging out
because you want to hang out andyou're not married and you're
not forced, and it's just likeyou hang out because you want to
and if somebody wants to leavethey can leave, right, right.
And so that's to me kind oflike where I'm at is like I get
it.
I understand why.
Me it's a negative free roll.

Speaker 2 (01:26:34):
I'm just shocked.
There's no little fucking donsrunning around.
You've got a polo game.
It's fucking good bro.

Speaker 3 (01:26:40):
There's definitely little bambinos out there.
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 (01:26:44):
Test is actually more effective as birth control than
condoms, they've shown.
I also did use condoms non-stopfor a four-year period.
I would jerk off with a condom.
I mean, I barely jerked off, buteven though I did like it was
just never yeah well, it'seasier for cleanup well it's
like it's like you know, whenyou get blind, like your fucking

(01:27:05):
hearing gets better, like youjust get more sensitive, you
know, like.
So if you're always wearing one, it's not a big deal, but if
you're wearing it some of thetime and then you don't, then
it's just like oh, all I canthink about is it doesn't feel
as good, or am I going to beable to keep my dick hard?
You know what I'm saying.
I just want to rip this fuckingthing off and then half the sex
.
Is you thinking about rippingthe condom off?
You know, it's just, I don'tknow.
Like I said, I did it for along time and I wore one every

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time.

Speaker 3 (01:27:36):
And it was not a's.
You know I didn't drink, thoughI didn't drink.

Speaker 1 (01:27:39):
If I drunk that, wait a minute, hold on back then.
Barely, bro, I literally Icould count the times that I've
been drunk in my life.
Probably like that's good, it'snot a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:27:49):
I mean I did a lot of gh I was gonna say you look
pretty fucked, oh don't you knowI've been fucked up, but like
ghb Quaaludes, it was differentshit.

Speaker 1 (01:28:01):
In college it was the G, later it was the lewds and
then there was a lot of weedLike 2018 to 20,.
I, literally I don't think Ihad sex one time, not high, and
I had a lot of sex.
I think it was like three yearsand I don't think I jerked off

(01:28:21):
once in three years and I don'tthink I had sex one time when I
wasn't high that actually makessense to me, right?

Speaker 3 (01:28:26):
because it's like everything, everything is better
when you smoke.
Weed.

Speaker 1 (01:28:29):
Food tastes better, sex is better, it's almost like
it's almost everything's funnyit's almost like having sex high
feels better than having sexwithout a condom.
When you're like used to that,you don't have to be like a
crazy.
I'll take it for fuckinggranted.

Speaker 2 (01:28:47):
Dan, I know we talked all over the place, I know
we've gone a little bit overtime, but in landing the plane I
know you're working on yoursupplement brand.

Speaker 1 (01:28:53):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:28:53):
The floor is yours.
I'd love to hear this from you.
I know that you and I spoke, ohmy gosh, maybe a year ago, and
you were telling me you weredoing this and you do a lot of
diligence in anything you do.
That's one thing with the book.
I know you told me about thatfucking three years ago, that
you were going to be working onthat, and that was great for me
to remember these.

Speaker 1 (01:29:12):
The supplement line yeah, finally finished that.
I almost started that about thesame time as the dating thing.
I mean, I just fuck man, thesethings.
I'm just such a perfectionistand I want to get everything
right.
So with the supplement thing, Iwent down the direction of no
artificial sweeteners and justlike 100 natural stuff.
So what I noticed, you know,when I did the insulin for a
very short period of time, wasthat when I would have stuff

(01:29:33):
that are artificial sweetenersin there, it just like like
would fuck up my gut, like Iwouldn't feel right, and so
because it's just like, it makesyou like a sponge, right, you
just absorb everything.
And even when I didn't do theinsulin, it fucked with my gut,
but not as much.
But I noticed it and I was like, okay, it's for sure that
because I did stuff, I would dothe protein with artificial

(01:29:54):
sweeteners and then I would dothe protein with artificial
sweeteners and then I would justdo the nasty chalky shit that
had nothing and it would tastegross, but it wouldn't fuck with
my gut.
And so what we ended up doingis we perfected this protein.
I mean I'm literally and nobullshit, you know I don't
bullshit Like the best-tastingprotein I've ever had in my
entire fucking life.
You don't make much money onprotein.
Protein is like a very smallmargin thing, but we fucking

(01:30:15):
nailed it.
You know like that is where'sthe samples, bro?
Dude I've been.
I just keep fucking eating themall.

Speaker 2 (01:30:21):
So hopefully I'll have them all I cannot.

Speaker 1 (01:30:24):
It's like, it's literally like a dessert,
because I don't have any fuckingsugars, I don't have any sweet
shit, so like it's.
It's literally like my cheat.
I feel like my protein shakesare like my fucking fucking
cheat meal.
So, um, yeah, I, I'm prettystoked about it.
The the pre-workouts fucking,you know, tastes kind of shitty
but it works really good.
Um, but the protein tastesfucking amazing and the other

(01:30:46):
stuff, you know.
I mean like we nailed theflavors, we got some hydration
packs.
It's basically like all theimportant stuff that I would
take with a supplement line if Icould get it without the um,
artificial sweet.
I mean, remember we were takingthe yeah, vcaa.
Is it tasted like fucking nastyfeet because we didn't flex his
feet.

Speaker 3 (01:31:01):
Yeah, I remember I didn't want the artificial sweet
.

Speaker 2 (01:31:04):
I'm gonna do you know you and you in his house.
You messaged me and go bro thistastes like fucking feet, bro.
Well, he didn't tell me.

Speaker 3 (01:31:11):
He said he goes, he goes.
Uh, it doesn't taste good, soyou don't want to just mix it
with water.
And I was in the like I don'tgive a shit.
You know what I mean same.

Speaker 1 (01:31:17):
I had a whole thing and I had to drink the 16 ounces
.

Speaker 3 (01:31:19):
Yeah, yeah he had a flavored one and I was like I
don't know if you should do that, dude, I'm telling you, it
tastes like flex's feet.
Not that I hated his feet, butif I could imagine what his feet
tasted like.
That's what it is that was pureeaa's.

Speaker 2 (01:31:30):
That's the thing yes uh, did you try that what I did?
It I did.

Speaker 1 (01:31:33):
It was disgusting, but I would rather drink
something that tasted disgusting, amen, but didn't have the
fucking artificial.
So I made something thatdoesn't taste disgusting and
doesn't have the artificial shit.

Speaker 2 (01:31:44):
So I'm going to give it to you when I get it, but I
think you'll really like it.
So this is launched, orlaunching done.

Speaker 1 (01:31:48):
Launching.
It's called Protocol that's thename of the line and I think in
another week or two.
So I think in another week ortwo, so probably by the time you
release this, it'll be outFantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:31:57):
Right around the corner.
Yeah, good timing.
Where can people get this?

Speaker 1 (01:32:00):
I mean we're probably just going to do online DTC,
you know to start, because Idon't know man, did anybody go
to fucking GNC anymore?
I feel like everybody just likeorders their shit online.

Speaker 2 (01:32:17):
Everybody orders online, I think.

Speaker 1 (01:32:18):
anything else that's coming down the pipeline.
You can uh tell us about that.
You're working on time.
No, those were like the.
You know, I just put a lot offucking effort into those two
projects.
You know, I don't do a lot ofshit.
I don't really like promote alot of shit, but like when I
would do something, I reallyfucking put a lot into it.
And this is supposed to be doneover a year ago for both of it,
but fuck man, I don't know.
Just you'd be surprised howmany tweaks you can make.
I mean, we saw it in my book.
I did 37 fucking edits.

Speaker 3 (01:32:40):
It's really gotten in the way of our workout schedule
and then you get injured.
It's just a.
You know what do I do aroundhere.

Speaker 1 (01:32:47):
Well, he probably blames you, and then he blames
you.
He left you Not an excuse.

Speaker 2 (01:32:51):
He left you to come to me and I was like the fucking
side checker and then we set atrain in and then I fucked
myself up and then he jumps backto you.
So where, uh j j-rock eskimobrothers right on that north mid
?
Anything else from you, myfriend?

Speaker 3 (01:33:07):
not much, man, who you voting for, um.
I honestly, I already know whoyou're voting for.

Speaker 1 (01:33:13):
Yeah I mean it's, I don't even think it's close.
Um, I mean I like trump.
He's a fucking locker room guy.
I think he's pretty straight up.
My only criticism of trump isjust his support of israel.
But I mean I you'd have to be.
I mean dude, how could you evervote for camilla?
I mean she's just, she's likethe drunken fucking school
teacher, like she's atrocious, Iknow she just doesn't have.

(01:33:34):
She doesn't have the, shedoesn't have the credits
underneath her to pull offrunning the country's never even
owned a business herself Idon't understand how they didn't
put big mike in there, honestly, like I think, I think she
would have had a fucking decentshot.
I mean, I think she would haveprobably does she want to.

Speaker 3 (01:33:49):
Does she want that life?

Speaker 1 (01:33:51):
I don't know like who wants that life?
Honestly, it's like, yeah itstrange.
I think the only person thatwould want to be president is
somebody that's like trying tomake money off of it, or
somebody that like really wantsto do something good.
And I don't think hardlyanybody does it because they
want to do the right thing, Ithink let's be clear about who
we're talking about Big Mikemichelle oh my god yeah she

(01:34:15):
would have been a uh, a strongcandidate.

Speaker 3 (01:34:17):
I'm shocked that they didn't push her yeah, I just
don't think she wants to put anypart of it like why do you want
your life ripped apart?
It's hard.
Yeah, you can't blame.

Speaker 1 (01:34:24):
I mean this is the media is just gonna shit on
whoever's in there.
Everybody's gonna fuckingcriticize every single thing
about you.
It's you're gonna live under amicroscope.
I mean, like I said, you haveto really be doing it for the
right reasons or really wantmoney.
That bad and I think that's whywe don't get very many good
candidates is because who thefuck would want to?

Speaker 3 (01:34:41):
do that.
When I was a kid everybody waslike being the president of the
United States was kind of likeit was this honor, right, it was
a lot of kids in class would belike I want to be the president
of the United States Beforesocial media, before social
media Before social media, likebefore you get your entire
fucking life ripped apart allthe time and your whole family's
life ripped apart likeeverything bad.

Speaker 1 (01:35:02):
You know what I mean.
So I think you got to have likereally thick skin to even want
to do that.
So I do give some respect but,like I said, I think a lot of
the people that do it do it forthe wrong reasons.

Speaker 3 (01:35:13):
Well, Trump, I think, is doing it for the right
reasons.
I mean, you saw hisassassination attempt.

Speaker 1 (01:35:18):
Yeah, I mean that was a whole crazy thing.
You know, I don't know what wasgoing on behind that.
I mean, they knew about theshooter for a long time and they
didn't do anything.

Speaker 3 (01:35:29):
There's a lot of things there.
When you start really lookingand unpacking everything and all
the details and all theevidence, it's bro, it's
scrubbed this.

Speaker 2 (01:35:37):
It's just hard to they scrub this kid's fucking
host too.

Speaker 1 (01:35:39):
Yeah, it's really weird I mean this kid just like
wakes up one day and decides todrive two hours to go fucking
take pot shots of the president.
Can't hit a fucking standingtarget at 150 fucking feet or
yards, whatever.
Like I mean I, I was shooting,I mean you're in the military,
we're shooting fucking standing400 yards at iron sights,
fucking hitting.
You know what I mean.
Like nine out of ten shots.
Like and this guy in the proneposition with a fucking scope

(01:36:03):
can't hit one out of fucking setlike I don't know just well
that little, that little, thatlittle head tilt I mean that's
one.
That's one, but I think seventimes right that's seven, I
thought it was three.

Speaker 3 (01:36:13):
There was eight shots .
Well, he did only shoot threethat's what I think.
Okay, yeah, maybe, but I meanlike when you start looking at
the sound of the shots, when youstart really getting into the
like evidence of of the eventthere's, it stinks really bad I
mean it stinks really bad andI'm tired.
I'm tired of them trying to justsweep it on the rug like
nothing ever happened.
Right, it was just this kid.
And they keep using this kid inthis picture of him when he was

(01:36:35):
15 years old not the 22 yearold photo of him, you know, and
what he looks like now and Ijust feel like media is just
really suppressing it and it's abig deal and it bugs me well, I
look at it like a girl.

Speaker 1 (01:36:48):
You know you lie to me once and I'm not going to
trust you.
Lie to me twice and I'm forsure not going to trust you.
You lied to me three times andI trust you.
I'm the fucking idiot right.
And so the government's lied tous, you know, many, many times.
You saw it with COVID, you sawit with all this stuff.
The media's lied to you.
So I'm at a point now I justdon't believe anything they say

(01:37:16):
I'm pretty sure of is the Earthain't fucking flat.

Speaker 2 (01:37:17):
Aside from that, I'm questioning everything, bro, you
know we're going to get allthese comments now about fucking
Earth, flat Earthers.

Speaker 3 (01:37:22):
They're going to start coming in heavy.

Speaker 1 (01:37:27):
So I mean, like Guido Liberté, the guy that owns
Cirque du Soleil I play pokerwith him at his house in Ibiza
fucking book of when he wentinto space for three weeks and
he's taking photos of the earthand it's fucking round.
I have pilots that have flownaround the entire fucking globe
on my fucking plane with me.
I've gone completely around theglobe multiple times and didn't
run to the end of it.
So, like nobody's ever had aevery.

(01:37:48):
There's eight billion people onthe earth with phones and
nobody's taking a picture of theedge.
If it's not, yeah, if it's flat, there has to be an edge here,
here, here and here, like.
So anyways, that one is justlike fucking retard central.
But the rest of it I don't know.
Man, like you know, like theyjust boldface lied over and over

(01:38:09):
and over about fucking covid,so, you know, lied to us about
jfk.
It's like what fucking 60, 70years later, they fucking still
don't want to release the files?
Like, why do we not have theright to know, like, who the
fuck killed the president?

Speaker 3 (01:38:21):
of our country and we and we do have the right and
they keep suppressing thatinformation.
The CIA keeps suppressing itand you get another three letter
agency pop up like like herpes.
Yeah, I mean it's likeeverywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:38:32):
Like yeah, the CIA seems to be just operating like
a terrorist organization.
You know, and I just I don'tknow, man, it's a very strange
state of affairs that we are inwith our country, but it doesn't
seem like the people that arein Control are actually
controlling it.
And you see that with a pack,you see they all have these
little a pack handlers.
If that constantly brags aboutlike oh, you know, we supported
a hundred percent of theDemocrats that won.

(01:38:52):
You know it's like, like, andlook, I know, on a small scale,
cause I've like donated tofucking you know different
politicians and stuff and Idonated like a hundred grand to
this guy.
I donated like 50 grand to thisguy, a hundred grand to this
guy.
They fucking text me all thetime Like is there anything you
need?
Like how are you doing?
You know it's like what if yougave a hundred million, like
what does that get you?
Because I know what a hundredgrand and like I don't need

(01:39:13):
anything, I don't leave my house, I don't do shit now you're
playing with the big boys.
I'm like, I'm good, I don't needanything but like what if you
did, yeah, and what if you gavea hundred million?

Speaker 3 (01:39:21):
you know what I mean, like you're at epstein's island
right like a fucking and thenlike why doesn't that come out?

Speaker 1 (01:39:27):
because that's a fucking israeli massad operation
to get dirt on our politiciansand control them and they don't
want to release that information.
They don't want to releasepoliticians because they still
have fucking dirt on thosepeople and those people are in
control.
So, like, who's actually incontrol?

Speaker 3 (01:39:40):
it's a crazy thing.
It's like the only time theyhaven't actually gone after the
people who are actually doingall the, all the dirty work, and
obviously epstein.
You know he.
He died in prison.

Speaker 1 (01:39:51):
So I mean bro they're literally in civil war in
fucking england right now and Ijust saw a video of them arrest
a guy for facebook commentsobviously I've sent you stuff,
yeah like women are being rapedwomen are being raped in the
streets and you are spendingyour time and resources

(01:40:12):
arresting a guy for makingoffensive Facebook comments,
like on what fucking planet youknow?
And it's like everybody wantsto blame the Muslims and it's
like there's a whole country ofMuslims.
You have the fucking UAE,you've got Saudi, you've got a
lot of places where it's allMuslim and they don't have
fucking all these problems.
You have a fucking borderproblem.
You've got a crime problem andyou're not controlling it.

(01:40:38):
You know, and it's like I gotinto an argument my buddy the
other day and you know he's likearguing that it's the fucking
muslims and he's a black guy andI'm like okay, well, blacks
commit over half the violentcrimes in america.
Do we have a black problem?
I don't think so.
Would you argue that?
You know?
It's like a quarter of theglobe is muslim, so you're just
gonna say a quarter of the globeis bad, like no, it's fucking
bullshit.
Like you know, we've got afucking problem with nationalism
.
We've got a problem the media.
We've got a problem.
They're open borders andnobody's fucking doing that

(01:40:59):
about it.
It's like and it's not like amaybe.
It's like we have borders for afucking reason, like why even
issue passports?
Why make me go through all thisfucking headache if you're just
gonna let all these fuckingguys just run across, and now
you're gonna let them vote, andnow you're gonna give them them
vote, and now you're going?

Speaker 3 (01:41:12):
to give them fucking like Free health insurance.
There's all crime.
Crime's just jumping up.
They're cutting financialsystems for poverty, individuals
, veterans, social securitieslike now in question right, it's
like what are we doing right?
Where's all this money going?
We're putting money into warand inflation.

Speaker 2 (01:41:32):
Sending it overseas.

Speaker 1 (01:41:33):
Yeah, exactly.
Where's the money going?
And why is our standard ofliving lower now than it was 50
years ago, when we haveautomated all this stuff, we've
got more people fucking working,we've got more efficient means
to produce things, and yet ourstandard of living is going down
.
Where's all the fucking moneygoing?
Follow?
The money, follow the money andyou'll find out like, yeah,

(01:41:55):
who's fucking us?

Speaker 3 (01:41:56):
yeah, it's also.
It's just, uh, it's one ofthose things where my dad and
progressively I've like, paid alot more attention to politics
and things and you know, we'renot always the good guys right,
we've done a lot of, uh, we'vedone a lot of bad stuff around
the world.
Um, you know, and unfortunatelyI I believe the same as you in
the fact that our governmentcould be doing a lot more.

(01:42:17):
Obviously, I think they havelet the borders open on purpose
and whatever reason that is,we'll find out but it's not
helping anybody in this country.
Nobody here is prospering from20 million immigrants coming
over the border, right now I'lltell you what it's doing.

Speaker 1 (01:42:33):
It's helping them control our country, because
when people are divided, they'reeasy to control.
So you want to go to the rootof the problem.
You go to the people that arepushing this bullshit narrative
the fucking media, thegovernment.
You look at like the root ofthe problem is the people that
are pushing this and areresponsible for this.
And and then you look at likewhy would they want to do this?
Like why they want to divide us, why would they want racism to

(01:42:55):
be at an all time high?
Why do they want to focus onall these negative things?
Why do they want to rip thenation apart?
Because a lot easier to controlpeople that aren't fucking, you
know, unified and it's a lotharder to unify.
When you destroy nationalism,when you attack the majority,
which is white people, it's likeyou should be ashamed of being
white, like I literally saw twofucking celebrities yesterday
like basically apologized forbeing white, like like john

(01:43:17):
stricken was like oh I wanted tolike yell at this bum, but he
was black, so I, you know, likeit, like went on this whole
thing and like even he used tobe a skinhead, like what the
fuck he's changingdown, man, it's like it was like
some other guy, I think it waslike ben stiller or something.
He's like, yeah, like I wish Iwas a black guy.
It's like what?
Like you know, it's just like,it's just crazy, and I don't
give a shit what fucking raceyou are, but, like you shouldn't

(01:43:39):
make people apologize for theirrace, regardless of what it is.
That's like literally thedefinition of racism.
So, like, in this whole likescope of like, oh, we want to
like make everything equal and,you know, not racist.
They're like making everythingracist because, like you, can't
make people ashamed of theirrace and then other people, you
know, have this victim mentalityand not expect there to be like
fucking downstream negative ofthat.

(01:44:00):
So, um, yeah, I mean, I justwish that, uh, we would fucking
start figuring out like who ispushing this bullshit?

Speaker 2 (01:44:10):
yeah, and cut that fucking head off there's a lot
of bullshit that's being pushedright now and nobody I know
fucking agrees with it.
That's the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:44:18):
There's so much going on right now.
I mean we could do a wholeother podcast on that.
Yeah, we won't.
I know we won't.

Speaker 2 (01:44:26):
And actually that guy that we started off the podcast
talking about is right me rightnow I'm busting to fucking piss
.

Speaker 3 (01:44:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:44:33):
So, right me, right now, I'm busting to fucking piss
.
I am actually also have to piss.
Well, if that isn't a way ofsegwaying off my own fucking
podcast, at least it's not ourguest.
But, dan mate, thank you verymuch, always great seeing you.
Obviously, you train here atthe gym and, as you know, I've
said many stories.
I've told a lot of people thisstory in particular.
There's a lot of celebritiesthat train in this gym, you know
, but I love to invest in thisgym to give everybody the best

(01:44:56):
product, selfishly, includingmyself.
But there's not many peoplethat hit me up and text me and
genuinely thank me for bringingin X piece or whatever it is,
and every time I've done that,I've told you this story.
You fucking hit me up, man, andyou don't understand for me as
the gym owner, as your boy aswell, how much I appreciate that
.

Speaker 1 (01:45:16):
Uh well, I appreciate the gym.
I mean, this is literallyprobably the first public gym
that I've worked out in in like16 or 17 years and I've got a
pretty nice gym at my house.
But I just always train harderhere and I don't know if it's
because the chicks have biggerarms than me or if it's the

(01:45:36):
fucking equipment, but I justthink it's just kind of like the
environment.
You, when you come to a gymlike this, you just you're not
gonna fucking half-ass it.
You know not that I would likereally half-ass it at my gym,
but it's just like I feel likeit just pushes you to a
different level and I also likeI'll ask guys for a spot here.
You know what Like, and Iwouldn't have that at my gym.
So I will just, I don't know,I'll go the extra mile here and

(01:45:57):
so I do appreciate you buildingkind of like, you know, a
fucking Mecca for people thattake the sport seriously.

Speaker 2 (01:46:03):
It's your home, from home, and you bring, you know.
All that added value just makesthis gym what it is mate, for
everybody else that comes inhere, because there's so many
fans that that come in and andthey have you know about seeing
you.
Of course, we have some fuckingcrazy ones, which you remember
too.
It was like guys in your facefilming you literally in his
face.

(01:46:23):
And yeah, he came up to me.
Dan was like hey, flex?
I said, do you?
And then I seen this guy againrelentless.
Hey, you meet her.

Speaker 1 (01:46:34):
He's like yeah, if you don't mind, this guy's in my
fucking and he was in his grill.
He was like actually filming myset of squats, which I felt
like it was a little strange.
Closer than this.
Closer than this.

Speaker 2 (01:46:44):
But everybody loves seeing you, bro, everybody who
meets you.
Everybody says great thingsabout you because you genuinely
Give time for the fans and chatit up and obviously everybody
goes on their own way.
So, man, I appreciate you forwho you are and the Dan that
I've got to meet outside of, theguy that I've seen on social
media man, and there's only one,dan Bazzaria, my friend.

Speaker 1 (01:47:04):
Appreciate you, brother, thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:47:05):
I appreciate you, j-rock.
My man hope you didn't have thesquat pad on in that video all
right.

Speaker 2 (01:47:15):
This is Flex, this is Rock.
We are out.

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