427: WrestleMania 41 Reaction w/ Mark Henry Jr. & Roy Burton; RIP Steve "Mongo" McMichael

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Speaker 1 (00:13):
What's up everyone out the internet land, and welcome to
episode four twenty seven of the Straight Shooters available wherever
podcasts are found. My name is Vaughn Johnson and I'm
joining as always by my main man Pots and Pans,
Nick Pocona, Fox, Pechel the Gambler and Philly Influencer. And
we have some special guests in the building to recap

(00:34):
a I guess a special show, WrestleMania forty one from
this past weekend. We're gonna talk all the happenings surrounding
the show, things that happened during the show each night,
and the aftermath and what may happen moving forward. And
those special guests are Roy Burton and Mark Henry Jr.
Not that Mark Henry Jr. Not the son of the
world strongest Man. This Mark Henry Jr. He's on our show.

(00:57):
How are y'all doing tonight on this lovely Wednesday evening.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
It's a beautiful day, you know, a couple of days
of remove from wresselem Meania can't complain.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
I can complain, and I'm sure I will on this spot.
As you guys know, I'm definitely not short on complaints.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Before we get into those complaints. I gotta do my
weekly check on my man man pots and pants. Nick,
how are you after another Phillies lost? My good mother.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
I got some complaints about the Phillies, that's for sure,
but uh, you know, like listen, I don't even care
about the losses. It's just how they look, like like,
I know they're gonna lose games, but it's like I'd
rather lose going out swinging and like making stuff happen
than just what how they've been losing. They just look lifeless,
and it's really just annoying to see because they've been

(01:46):
an average team since July of twenty twenty four. It's like,
come on, like, let's see something different. At least, you know,
they were walking and their offense seemingly started on a
better foot this season, but they've regressed a little bit
to what you know, we've kind of seen the last
few months of the twenty twenty four seasons. So it's
just frustrating to watch, so annoying. The pitchers have to

(02:09):
be perfect, and when they're not, we get mad at them,
and it's not fair because the offense doesn't pull in
their way. So another annoying loss today, they got swept
by the Mets. They're laughing at us up there, they're
laughing at us.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Look, just think about the fact that they may also
be Jets and Giants fancy and you're an Eagles fan,
so and they're very different roles because the Jets and
Giants have been bad for a long time, specifically those Giants,
right like, if you're going to talk NFC specifically, the
Eagles have been great. They're like real, real good in

(02:42):
the last like five to ten years. So like there's
some solids.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
Did it's balance like Bryce Harper being sent to the
Mets and then the Mets winning in the World Series.
I mean, Barkley coming to the Philadelphia Eagles and one
of the Super Bowl his first year.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
We took the John Cena deal. We sold our soul
and the Sixers and the Phillies and the Flyers for
that Super.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Bowl and sold all the other teams out for that
in the Union and the college basketball teams, none of
them made the tournament, like damn not, not one of
the twelve programs here men and women made the NA Tournament.
Tough tough times here in Philly, but you know, they

(03:27):
got the Eagles, but we got WrestleMania here and not
in Philadelphia this year. It wasn't Philadelphia last year, and
we had a much better time, but not only because
it was here in Philadelphia, but also because the show
was much better and much more climactic. But we'll talk
about it here in depth. Let's start with Mark. I

(03:49):
need your big takeaways from Night one WrestleMania Saturday Night.
What are your big takeaways in that show?

Speaker 3 (03:56):
It's so funny that not to hit on Night two,
on my take on Night one, but they're like they
were reversed nights like Night one sucked all night, like
a terrible card, and it was saved by a great
main event. And you say, you left Night one actually
probably feeling better than we should have because the main

(04:17):
event was so fun. The last thing we saw, obviously
the big turn with Seth Rollins, I think is the
big takeaway of the entire weekend, especially with what happened
on Monday with bron Breaker. But it's you probably walked
away feeling better than you should have because there wasn't
another good match on the card, like not to be
Meltzer and be given matches, you know, rating them on

(04:37):
a five star basis. I don't know if there's another
star you could call another match, you could call a
three star match on that card. I thought Tiffany and
Charlotte one of the matches I was most excited about.
Really disappointing. But the inverse of Night two, where the
whole show was great and the main event was a
slap in the face, Night one was the exact opposite.
The whole show was a slap A continuous series of

(05:00):
slaps in the face was fantastic. It was the exact
opposite Night one to night too.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Roy.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
Uh, butthead gift of but just slapping Beavis from.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Apparently so Mark Henry Night one not fun from Mark
Henry H.

Speaker 5 (05:21):
Junior.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
The ending was fun. I disagree in that there wasn't
anything else good in the in the first night, But Roy,
your big takeaways from Night one of WrestleMania.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Yeah, I will shoot w W some baill I thought.
I thought the Jacobot l a Knight match was good.
That was an entertaining match. I mean that thinks at
least three stars, you know, if you want to kind
of put it the star rating on it. Your Night
one wasn't great, but again we got a good match
out of those two guys. You know, we got a
nice solid return out of out of j Cargo that
in that Naomi match, and you know, like nothing for nothing,

(05:55):
Like I'm not a big fan of this whole Grande
Americano match. But Chack Gable, you give Chad Gable, you
know something, he runs with it. And he's been a
pretty good wrestler. And even though he was supposed to
fight Raymond Stereo Night one and got ray Pen instead,
they still put on a.

Speaker 5 (06:08):
Pretty entertaining match.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
So again, I think there were some silver linings to
to uh to Night one outside of the main event.
But but Mark's right, I mean Night two is better,
but there were some there were some you know things
we can point out in positive and a positive light.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Nick, how about you night one of WrestleMania big takeaways.
We got Mark, he's staunching against it. Roy a little
more measured in his take. What say you?

Speaker 4 (06:32):
I'll echo Roy settlement about the Fatu l A Night match.
It's kind of like exactly how I expected it to go.
Uh Jacob Fatu man like that. If that guy's not
main event in WrestleMania next year or the year after,
I'd be surprised again, though like one left a lot
to be desired. The main event I don't think saved them,

(06:54):
Like I don't think a main event saves an entire show,
especially when the undercard just didn't hit as much as
it did Night one. But the main amount might have
been like one of the most entertaining matches I remember seeing,
maybe since last year in WrestleMania. I mean, didn't need

(07:14):
all those run ins, but the Paul Hayman shananigans. I
thought this match was a little too involved with him,
but I like how they did it. I mean like
it gave it some importance because again, going into it, okay,
I didn't really care about the Paul Hayman thing, but
it showed that. When he turned on Punk, It's just like, oh,

(07:34):
like he's gonna be the wise man. But then I
just didn't expect him to turn on Roman. So when
he started standing behind him after giving Roman the chair,
Roman's line and Seth up, I'm like, oh my god,
this is gonna happen again, and that's it, Like Paul's
gonna go with Seth and you can kind of see
it play out in real time. I love when wrestling
does that, when you can put the pieces together at

(07:55):
home where you don't have to wait for like somebody
off camera to come and do something, like you want
to see it and you want to see like, oh,
this big moment is about to happen, like you get
that inner pop almost. I feel like wrestling hasn't done
that lately, Like they always just want you to hear

(08:17):
the crowd reaction, but you can't see it because they're
off camera and at home you're just like, oh, like
what's gonna happen? But I think when you see it
it makes it better. So seeing Paul Hayman kind of
behind Roman and just that initial like, oh my god,
he's going to do the same thing to Roman, that
was like my favorite part of the night, you know,
like just the I just didn't expect it to happen,

(08:37):
even though probably predictable match booking would tell you that
that was going to happen. I thought it was the
best moment of WrestleMania both nights. It obviously carrying over
to Raw. We'll talk about that later. I think it
was perfectly done. So they made the best out of
a situation that I don't think a lot of people

(08:59):
care to Originally so I think now people are invested
in that, and I think that was the best outcome.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
Quick question for all of you guys, because I talked
about this with Nick and Roy on my radio show,
where I worked myself into a shoot, like I became
so obvious that they were gonna do the Hayman Seth thing,
and they alluded to it so many times on TV
with Seth doing the when he did the criss Cross promo,
when Seth fake curb stomped Hayman and said you owe

(09:28):
me a favor, that I actually thought that they were
gonna they were using it as a red herring and
maybe he ended up with Roman. We knew he wasn't
gonna end up with Punk walking him out, but I
worked myself into a shoot thinking he wasn't gonna do that.
Do you think that that was almost their goal to
put it out there to make you think, oh, well,
they're not gonna do it if they're alluding to it
this much, or do you think that it would have

(09:48):
been an even better moment if they didn't allude to
it at all going into it. I guess to.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Me, I like leaving the little breadcrumbs along the way
they're a little more overt because you know, maybe when
you're writing in kind of like real time, and you
know they're not they're not the best television writers in
the world, like there are better written television shows, but
they're good enough obviously tell a kind of a simple story.
So you leave that kind of breadcrumb there. It kind

(10:15):
of to me makes it better along the way. I
like connecting dots and like being able to easily connect
dots sometimes in wrestling story. But that's that's just me
and obviously sometimes that's what makes the surprise and surprises.
You can't have surprises for the sake of them, so
you kind of plod along and go, Okay, I know
what's gonna happen here, and that's going to happen here,
and then that's when they hit you with a surprise,
like wait, I didn't not see that coming, And that's

(10:36):
what makes it more special for me. So being able
to see seth Rolands do the pump fake on the stomp,
you kind of see like, oh, okay, Paul Hayman could
make it, think, make a thing happen it, but it's
still surreal when it actually happens. The moment the execution
makes it the moment that it is, makes it memorable
for me at least, and then you go back and
watch again and you see, oh, remember those little bread

(10:57):
crumbs they were leaving along the way. So to me
it adds to rewatchability as well.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
Well, you know, I didn't even actually see the main event.
I was too busy just rewinding and watching the CM
punk entrance, the promo pacte that they that they put
together specifically for me with kill Switch and Gage. So yeah,
I heard it was good that I'm.

Speaker 5 (11:16):
Joking for me.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Night one, I thought, I agree with you pretty much
everybody is that, you know, it was the weaker of
the two nights. I disagree, and that it was, you know,
like what Mark said, like nothing was good except the
main event. I think that I'm on the side of
there was things that positives to take away, Like Rory said,
there were positive things to take away from the show,
even though it wasn't great, but there were some positive

(11:44):
takeaway I would say that.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
Still.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
It was kind of rough though, because you follow up
WrestleMania from last year and how great Night two was
of WrestleMania, and then this you kind of follow it
up again with Night one. You're kind of expecting it
to feel like that kind of same feel, and it didn't,
and it was like, oh, that's that's kind of tough.
But I think one of the bigger moments of the
weekend was the opening match of Night one, where j

(12:06):
Uso becomes the World Heavyweight Champion, and it's the culmination
of a long story and it's a very positive moment.
The match itself, I thought, was fine, I'm not gonna
see him act like it was Brett Harvsus Steve Austin
and wrest thirteen fame, and I would assume that most

(12:27):
of j USO's matches won't. This is how it's gonna be.
But they got the job done and that people came
for their happy ending. They were ready to see him win.
They got it. They did a good enough job of
thinking the match itself to capture that drama. Gunther is
incredible ju So to me is good enough. He can

(12:50):
pull off these matches with people, and the emotion and
the drama carries it the rest of the way. So
that was the highlight of Night one for me. The
sides the main event, which was obviously the major highlight
of Night one.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
I think It's telling that it took us twenty five
minutes of talking about Night one to fifteen minutes talking
one Night one to get to even mentioning the match.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
I think Nick and Roy were kind of waiting for
us to talk about it.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
Mark, I think that that was I think calling that
match fine than ninety five percent of matches that have
happened in WW history are fine because that match stunk.
It was the first match of the weekend of a
crowd that's ready to go, and they.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Were still ready to go.

Speaker 5 (13:32):
They were the crowd.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
Until the end of the match, until the only thing
that they got up out of their chair to do.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Was to that's what they wanted to do.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
For fifteen minutes, they sat in their hands and didn't
know what to do because the match had no heat,
there was no interest built throughout the match, and then
there was an anti climactic finish that goonther. It made
the guy who you've built for the last year look
like an absolute jabbroni to the point where he's feuding
with Pat McAfee the next night, like I.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Think, I mean, I don't agree with that neither, But
he got hit with like seven moves with that choke,
come on man like after like hitting hit like four splashes.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
Now and it's more about we've had years man, where
we are starving for main eventors. We have guys who
we are pushing who we don't know if we can
buy in, but we need something to buy into. Alberto
del Rio was main eventing pay per views and winning rumbles,
and Shamus was winning rumbles in the early twenty tents.
Now we are lucky enough to have five six, seven

(14:41):
legit I think superstars, and to give one of those
main event big spell, well, not a main event jus
So open, you know, jerk the curtain.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
The curtain is crazy, bro, But.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
I I it's just a shame that they Sam's Aan's
not on the car and jay Usso is getting a
world title match at WrestleMania. There's just so many guys
who I think could have delivered a much better match
with Gunther and have delivered much better matches with Gunther.
I think that's the worst match of Guther's like pay

(15:15):
per view title reign. He's had a better match with
every guy that he's feuded with, and I just feel
bad for Gunther that he could have had his big
moment wrestling a Snea or a Punk or a Roman
or a Seth or a whoever you want to book
to that spot, and I think it would have leveled
him up as a main event or even if he
lost the bell, Whereas instead, I think this absolutely took

(15:36):
a guy who you were building a step down.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
Or you just made had Jaso step up to and
earn the spot that he was given, the spot that
he rightfully kind of earned, based on how much mercy selling,
based on the emotional reaction he got as much as
you might say the match killed the crowd. They were
standing up and cheering at the end when jay Usso won.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
They liked music, the music, They like jay Uso.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
This happens every everywhere he goes people they buy his merch.
He don't buy merch. To wave your arms.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
Here's the punkin Sina, in Roman and Seth and Drew,
you're moving merchant.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Not as much as jay Uso, not as much Jewlis,
you said, Drew McIntire, selling more merchant jay Uso right now.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
Drew McIntyre carried them through the summer while jay Uso
was in the.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
Mid didn't sell more merchant. Jay Uso did. Still, you
don't do.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
People were more interested when Drew McIntyre comes out.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Not with their wallets. They told they told a story
with their wallets. It costs it's free to wave your arms.
That that that don't cost anything. You gotta you gotta
actually pay money and part ways with something that you
earn to buy the merch and people are buying the
merch and they're wearing it, the glass.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
And the whole number one merch seller in the company
in February twenty twenty three. But they were on their
story and they couldn't break free from their story. So
he didn't get this moment.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
They've been telling the story of ja Uso for five years.
They couldn't break from that.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
They couldn't break from that. Nobody was asking for this.
So two months ago, when they had the card for
Mania written behind them on that ad for ww Unreal,
which is a whole other conversation, they had that that
card listed behind them, jay us So wasn't even on
the card. It wasn't listed for the Manium main event.
He wasn't listed for anything. They had all these other
plans listed. Jay Uso wasn't even there. But it just

(17:21):
became that they couldn't give up that five year story
when he wasn't listed two months ago as part of
this kind of I think it was an absolute abomination
of a title match at WrestleMania, one of the worst
of this kind.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Of modern era of work rate, more modern era of
work rate. This is not the era of work rate.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
This is this WWE s taking out hull Cogan versus No.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
I'm talking this WWE since twenty twenty one, twenty two
is not the era of work rate.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
And I say I'm not the work rate. What I'm
saying is taking out hul Cogan versus ken konk Bundy.
I'm saying, let's not use like nineteen eighty seven. I
get to agree that the work rate is a little
different in twenty twenty five than nineteen eighty five.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
But you still, no, man, come on, an abomination. People
care too much for this to be an abomination. The
Alberta del Rio the Del Rio Edge match at WrestleMania
twenty seven, that was an abomination because nobody gave a
damn like. Nobody cared the Del Rio Edge match from
wrestling in twenty seven. Nobody cared. That's more of a
that's a worse match than this.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
That's fair.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
There are worse matches.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
Than this nonsensical end.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
There are way there are way more offensive matches, and
the one I watched between j us and good matches.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
At WrestleMania, I don't know about that.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
I can go straight to them. I can go straight
to the main event of Night two and be way
more offended than one from what I saw from that
than what I saw from j Uso.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
And if we're just talking about straight up matches, Cody
is a better match. We can talk about.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
That match was slow and then Travis Scott came out
and grinded it more to a halt, but we can
talk about it when we talk about Night two.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
Defending that match I hated as much as anybody, but
I do think it was a better straight up match by.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
I can't be offended by the match that we got
here because people like the guy. He's been working hard,
they like the guy, they put him in a spot,
they put him over, and people like the fact that
they put him over. I can't be offended by it.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
I think you're on your algorithm with that. It's my algorithm.
Everybody else there's there's definitely a back one algorithm alone
on an island.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
That's the thing about your algorithm. That is your algorithm.
When I see sixty thousand people waving their arms around
and people who are just of all ages wearing his merch,
that's different algorithm. Baby, Yeah, that's definite.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
If that's what we're watching wrestling for, then yeah we should.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Have I'm not watching wrestling for that.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
I'm just saying that's what you should We should have
loved it. I'm not. You know, it's great because John
Cena is selling fruity Pebble's merch and you know, we
don't care if he wrestles Shamus to it, you know,
two Star Match again at TLC.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
Like, look, if the people were buying it, we can't
argue that much.

Speaker 5 (19:56):
The problem was nobody was buying it.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
But the people are buying Jusa, I can if the
product sucks, what tangible evidence do you have to sew that.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
I can show you tangible evidence why j is super over.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
It's not just according a coup of people disliking it on.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
So y, go ahead, Roy.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
So, So here's the thing again, you can there's different
schools of thought on this right, Like there is the
mark Henry crowd, which is he was you know, there
was twelve I think there's twelve thousand dislikes on that video.
Oh no, a lot more than that now, but that's well,
probably a lot more because you probably were pretty pretty
busy this afternoon kind of clicking on that. Oh no,
there's again, there's the again, there's the the Vaughn Johnson

(20:38):
school of thought, where again j Uso sells a ton
of merchandise. People eat all over the place, like again,
like both people can be right. It could be a
not pleasing product visually. You know, it's not the greatest
match of all time. But the man sells a lot
of merch The man moves a lot of products. The
man sells a lot of tickets.

Speaker 5 (20:55):
Like that matters if you have triple h. What matters
the most, it's that.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
It's gonna be the money bro.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
Merchants, and he was.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
That's the reason why they got the belt. He wouldn't
have gottenn Ic title if he wasn't selling merch So he.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
Had to win the ww title because he was selling
merch couldn't have couldn't have continued doing that.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
Who else is better than what a better parometer? Would
you need?

Speaker 3 (21:24):
Every other Maine e venteror would put on a better product.
Is this is this a podcast about where we evaluate
the business of rest.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
I'm just looking at tangible evidence. Yes, what do you
talk about the ring? We could also acknowledge reality.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
Reality, that shock, and it was fifteen minutes of nobody
being interested until they got to hear the song again.

Speaker 5 (21:45):
No, the match.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
Was, but they knew it was coming right right, Like.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
I think, like the match wasn't good. I think we all,
all of us canna agree the match wasn't good. Doesn't
agree with arguing that Vonnage is arguing that we understand
why they pulled the trigger. I get it, I understand it.

Speaker 5 (22:03):
It's fine, it's fine, it's fine.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Yeah, I could just I understand. There's so many go ahead.
I don't mean to cut you off. They're good, good,
I understand. There's so many other things that are worse
in w W than what they're done with j US. I
think like they're doing a decent job of j's a
good job with JUS. There are so many things you
can complain about, like how much there's so many people
who still don't get enough TV time. Carrying Cross probably

(22:27):
needs a push right now, U l a night? What
happened with him? Like, there's so many things that just
come out with Hayes. Where is he? There's so many
things to be to point out and be mad online about,
besides the guy who like makes everybody happy, like every
time it comes out, everybody Those same people, you don't think,
those same people who are probably mad online are also

(22:49):
buying tickets to go to the show. You don't think
what you think they're sitting in the stands with their
arms crossed. No that I'm just.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
Saying this conversation has become like, oh, well, he sells merch,
so we can't in on the quality of what's going
on in the television.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
I didn't say you couldn't. I'm just saying, don't call it.
Don't unders don't like act like you don't know what's happening.
Neither you act like you're so surprised that we are here.
What do you think this company is? They here to
make money?

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (23:14):
This is a for profit company has always been that way.
So when somebody's making.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
Money, eval critique anything.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
I don't think is nearly as bad as you do.
I think as an my from my point of view,
I think he's fine as a wrestler. He's good enough.
That's perfectly fine for me.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
I think that's a terrible opinion. But you know, terrible opinion.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
It's not like I'm talking about whether people deserve equal rights.
I'm talking about Jay Whoso a terrible opinion?

Speaker 3 (23:43):
Is this subjective in main event wrestler. I don't think
he ever gets involved in feuds that are interesting outside
of his family. And I don't understand how you could
possibly understand.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
You gotta ask. You got to ask the people who
are put in pardoning ways with their money, man, and like,
ask them, don't ask me.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
Merchant twenty ten. It must have been a great product,
must have been fantastic. We all loved it.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Look, I don't know what to tell you, bro. That
don't mean l A.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
Knight sawd a ton of merch a couple of years ago,
and he got really hot. They didn't they gave him
a push. Well, title immediately, they gave.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
Him a push. They been making him two time US champ.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
Yeah, then they should have done that with Jay Us.
I wouldn't have a problem with that two times.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
You don't want them to have the.

Speaker 4 (24:23):
Ice each world title at that point too.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
For the US champ. That's an entirely different conversations.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Also, Nick brought up a good point there's only one
world title. When around at LA night time, he definitely
wasn't beating Roman Reigns at l A. Knight got so.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
Point, that's a fair point.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
There's two world titles. It's fine. That's like totally the show.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
I don't want to fine yell at each other. It's
three on one here anyway, that's fine. I have absolutely
no interest. I know I'm right here, and that's fine.
You guys think you're right, and that's fine. There. There's nothing.
There's not gonna be any headway. They're not gonna you're
not gonna tell me that the fifteen minutes spent watching
that match was in any way not painful.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Man, I had a great time. I don't know about.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
Here's what I'd say. V One tweeted one thing during
Wrestleman after WrestleMania Night one. It was about that match,
not the main event, not l A.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
Knight.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
Jacob thought to not not Tippy having a broken tooth
or whatever that or anything else. He tweeted about jay
Us and so.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
I think that I retweeted a comedian cav on stage
is really funny. I like one of the things, one
of the things he tweeted. I don't know everything he tweeted.
I didn't look at his entire timeline, but one of
the things he tweeted out to his whole legion of
followers was Jay Usso's entrance. I don't know what else
to tell you that that's happened. Just a great time.

(25:41):
That's he didn't know. He didn't say anything about the match.
You know why because he had more fun during the entrance.
And that's okay. I'm that's okay. I'm telling you that's okay.
He came, he paid money, or maybe he didn't pay
my maybe got free tickets. But that was the most
exciting part of the night, one of the most exciting
parts he had that night. Then he watched the mat
the guy won, yay, Cavil stays cares about how many

(26:06):
stars that match.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
Was taking place with ten to fifteen people. We all
thought the match absolutely sucked.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
It wasn't like you need to diversify your friendly because
people I was watching it did not care.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
Yeah, I don't know, I don't know what else you know.
I think I arguet my point.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
All right, nothing of that, nothing yelling and bickering about
Night one. Let's go to night two. Roy, give me
your takeaways from night too of wrestlming, your top takeaways,
and we can we can save the main event for
last after this, because I'm sure we have thoughts about
the main event outside of the main event. What were
your thoughts?

Speaker 2 (26:38):
We will we will save we will save, yeah, the
main event for a second. So just my my two
top takeaways and I'll just try to ignore the you know,
the obvious obvious stuff. Shout out to them for for
for giving Joe Hendry that spot. That that to me,
that's pro wrestling like that, that to me kind of encapsulates,
like you know why we watched stuff like that like
that happening out of wrestling. And so kudos to Joe Henry,

(27:00):
Randy Orton Joe henrymatch. You know, that was a very
entertaining three minutes of professional wrestling in my opinion.

Speaker 5 (27:05):
And number two, whoever that woman was a stone cold
took out with his a TV.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
I hope she got really good, really good representation, because
I would be laying on that floor with all sorts
of injuries like I probably would cut a check.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
I was.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
An amazing amount of money. That was. Again, I hope
she's fine, but that was a very that was. That
was one of the wildest moments I've ever seen in
the wrestl Badia.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
Yeah, like Nick said, Nick Conran right over, like, please
don't sue us. What do you want? Immediately tell us
what you wanted and we will make it happen. A
bottle campaign right now.

Speaker 5 (27:39):
Yeah, you want box hes to every wrestling here for
the rest of your life.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
We got you, got you. That's much cheaper than this
lawsuit because everybody saw this. We haven't got no recourse here.
What do you want exactly?

Speaker 5 (27:49):
Exactly all those.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
Wishes come to right now. Let's do it. But go ahead,
and I don't know if you had any besides Steve
Boston already I want to.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
Throw Obviously we'll talk about the women's match and all
the other stuff as well, but I just want to
one of the throat out there.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
Mark Night thoughts from night two.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
Well, you know, Johnsena sells a lot of merch, so
it must have been a really great name event.

Speaker 5 (28:10):
People.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
People seemed excited when the entrance hit. Uh, and that's
how I watched wrestling, and that's how I evaluate it.
So yeah, that's my takeaway from Night one or nice.

Speaker 4 (28:22):
Nick Dominic mysterio man, Like, I did not think he
would get that type of pop when he won. I
thought Panza would win and maybe the crowd would be
like a Pensa yay. But no, they were like, ah,
Dominic yay. And I just thought that and I was afraid,

(28:42):
like he would lose on raw, Like I was almost like,
oh no, no, no, like they'll do that and but he
but he didn't. And uh, I don't know. I thought
maybe he would lean into the face stuff, but doesn't
seem like that's going to happen. Women's Triple Threat was
as good as it could have been. Uh, just incredible stuff.

(29:04):
I've surprised EO one honestly, and so I'm kind of
glad they let off with that because it was unpredictable
a little. But I think a lot of people didn't
expect EO to retain. So you know, you lead off
with that a great triple threat match and have EO retained,
and then you kind of wonder, Okay, where does Bianca
and Rie go from here? It's probably not gonna be

(29:25):
you know, one on one with EO yet. Uh So
I'm kind of interested in how that happens. But I
think dominic out of everything that happened Night two, I
loved the Joe Henry thing like pop. I mean, that's
that's what WrestleMania is, you know, like yeah, and I
was I didn't even really know who was and then

(29:48):
I heard the pop and then I I was like, okay,
like they know who it is, but we were like,
you know, millisecond, millisecond, millisecond, and I'm still trying to
figure it out. And then I see the Joe Henry
uh graphic or whatever or back the back of his
head and I was just like, oh shit, like they're
they're actually doing this, which is really cool. I thought

(30:09):
it was really cool. You know, It's something that I
knew would be polarizing too, because I was like, oh man,
there's gonna be people that hate this and.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
They're buried the TNA World Champ. But like, even though
he's the first ever TNA World Champ to even be
on a wrestlming.

Speaker 4 (30:27):
The beauty of the end of the match when he
they because they didn't do it at the Rumble they
didn't like zoom in when he did his U trademark,
you know, turn around and stare and smile. They didn't
do the zoom in right, like, I don't remember them
doing that, and I felt like that was a missed opportunity,
and they did it. I was like, yes, did not
expect the r k O out of nowhere, which was hilarious,

(30:50):
and I was like, you can't make this angle or
or whatever you want to call it, like this WrestleMania
moment any better than that, and uh, you know, for
Randy to get on there, like obviously his match with
Kevin Owens was going to be probably one of the
best matches we were anticipating on this week that weekend.

(31:13):
But man like, if they could do anything to at
least get that pop or that crowd to react, they
did it, and I thought that was fantastic. But Dominic Man,
Dominic Mysterio went in the Icy title. I was surprised,
I really was, because I didn't think they would give
him a belt yet. But he certainly deserved it. And
you could tell after, you know, telling Big E on

(31:34):
the post game or postgame post show, I'm already better
than you, like you have this, right, I'm already better
than you. Like he is probably loving every minute of this,
and he is fully like he must everybody must love
him because the way he comes across on the bike
on any podcast he does like he's just incredible, Like
what a worker man. Yeah, he's awesome, And.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
I think people was booing him a couple of years ago,
and look at the guy, right, right, great, I just
had to stick with something sometimes. And the story they've
been telling with Dom is multiple years as far as
like watching essentially a boy become a man in the
world of pro wrestling, which is how do you tell
that story within the realm of pro wrestling. They're telling

(32:16):
it with Dom where now he went from the precocious
young man obviously he was a kid when they was
fighting over a custody of him, which was crazy, right,
And then he becomes the adorable young guy who wins
with his dad. Then he becomes a rebellious essential essentially
a teenager. But even though he's well older than a
teenager and he's repelling against his dad, he turns goth
and he hangs out with the wrong crowd, and the

(32:37):
judgment day, he's still hanging out with them. And then
he becomes an f boy and he cheats on rear Ripley,
and it's like, man, what's going on now? He's a champion,
so what's gonna happen now? So yeah, I think that
they've done a great job with Dominican Mysterio over the
course of multiple years. And I agree with everybody when
they say Night two is the better of the nights.
The opening match, the triple Threat for the Women's World

(33:00):
Championship was incredible. I think the best match on either
show Night one or Night two. Uh, And I think
I didn't think Eo would win either. I thought that
would be big an Blaire, but when you you really,
you know, think about it, it's okay. Well, the story was
kind of Eo fighting for the attention, you know, kind
of not being overlooked, so it kind of made sense
for her to It does make sense for her to
West since that kind that does make make sense for

(33:21):
her to win. And Bianco is also on SmackDown, so
if she wins the title, she'd had to move to Raw.
They got the thing with clearly with Naomi that's not
done yet and her Montes Forge can be on the
same show as well, so Uh, so she goes back
to SmackDown. She can leave the Women's World title stuff alone,
and now we can pick up with maybe I would
assume Naomi and maybe even Jake Cargo stays in there

(33:43):
periphery as well moving forward. But the match boys, like
I said, I thought Naomi might pull that one off like.

Speaker 5 (33:52):
At first, but yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
But they didn't. They didn't put to drag on Naomi.
They win with Jay Cargo, which makes again I understand
that as well, and I even think I even said,
conventional wisdom would say Jade would win. But something telling
me Naomi could have used that win. Uh since he
just turned hehell too. But but back to Sunday, I
did like the Joe Hendriy moment the r k o

(34:14):
off the camera and then Randy Orton also doing the
turn and doing his pose instead. Was that was a
nice touch, was like what exactly is he gonna do?
And he did his pose like okay, I got it,
that's good, and it zoomed in on him as well.

Speaker 4 (34:28):
I do. I do understand. More like the second r
KOs like all right, come on, like.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
Really that was a bit much like it did make
him look just.

Speaker 4 (34:36):
Shook his hand raise his hand, go out like a
like a good guy or something. He didn't need the
second Arkao, and that just justified everyone who already didn't
like it.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
See, I could understand people having a beef with the
second RKO because they did make him look silly. Yep,
it didn't make him look silly, Roy, you say he
deserved it is what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
This again, that the whole, the whole, you know, I
call it a popcornm man. It's just a nice, little
fun little five minute I grow, you know, serious stuff
like it's fine, Like.

Speaker 5 (35:04):
It's cool, like two r KOs.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
It's all like we know what he's here for, right,
Like we know we know what Like we know you're here, brother,
Like you're gonna come here, come in, get a couple
moves off, either r K or two, and then you'll
go back to t NA like you know. And the
look look they gave they threw him a bone on Tuesday,
you know, they kind of put him in the title mix,
you know, and then XT so, so kudos to Joe.

Speaker 4 (35:24):
Yeah, now people are making fun of him, saying I
might have lost, but I was in front of sixty
thousand fans. It's like, bro, any wrestler in the back
would switch places with Joe in a second.

Speaker 5 (35:33):
A million, a million, a million percent.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
He's serious. He got we got three minutes or Randy
Orton at WrestleMania and wrestle people and the people loved
him too.

Speaker 4 (35:43):
That was one of the biggest pops I've heard, you know.
It reminded me of the hardest pop really And what
was it thirty was it thirty three?

Speaker 1 (35:52):
That's thirty three?

Speaker 5 (35:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (35:53):
Wow, yeah, Like that's the first thing I thought of.
I was like, oh my god, like long time that
pop man.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
Yeah, night too.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
That it was.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
It was pretty good. I mean, I thought there was
a missteps. I thought the logan Paul aj Styles man
kind of slowed the show down a little bit. It
was fine for me, it wasn't I don't know.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
This didn't have to carry and cross. I thought AJ
would actually like take carrying stuff. So that was kind
of an.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
One last heel bit for me before I move on.
AJ Styles was second in merch sales in March, So
I do think was too critical of this to be fair,
do we see where I'm coming from a little bit.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
You can point it out for a month or so,
but this has been.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
This has been sustained the entire conversation with just that
that's what I'm saying. But anyway, I'll move on, I'll stop,
but I do I would go main event of Night
one over the women's of Night too. It was close
for me, but I just think, and maybe I'm biased
towards the story, and I love Paul Haman and I

(37:07):
love kind of this seth Rollins thinger shutting.

Speaker 4 (37:09):
Up, and I think.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
That's because that's kind of the match of the weekend
for me. I think that's fair.

Speaker 4 (37:15):
I think the story I was gonna say, I think
it's close between those two, but I give you edge
because the Hayman stuff, Like, even though in the back
of my mind i'm watching, I'm like, oh, this could happen,
it's just seeing it play out just seemed different for
some reason. Like Roman's reaction when Hayman low blows seem

(37:36):
like he was almost crying and stuff. This is like,
I don't know, man, it's not a it's on another
level because man, yeah, and Seth's just stare after Hayman
does it to Roman, you know, Like the cinema bit
is funny to me, but I mean that's what w
W is, you know, like you're not going like a

(37:56):
a W has people that work that used to work
a w W that books stuff like that. But in WW,
it just always seems the crowd, I know, it's a
different crowd, but you get the reaction that you want
most of the time when bits like that happen, like
the cinema stuff, the facial reactions, the commentators telling the

(38:17):
story like it's so smooth in WW compared to other places.
So I think that was part of it, just like
the production of the end of that match, definitely, I
think helped that over the you know, I would obviously
put that just one step.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Above that's fair, and I think we can separate. To me,
I can separate like, oh, the story was better in
that match, but I think the end ring from the
women I think was better in that. But I would
agree in that like the execution was damnie flawless. And
I think that's the thing to me about wrestling is

(38:57):
that you don't need like super intricate storytelling because you
can make up for it with the drama in the ring,
the drama of the fans, the emote need the story
that you act out, you know, It's a simple story really,
with Paul Hammond being like torn between seem punk and
Roman Remains, and instead he chooses somebody outside of that
triangle and it's like whoa.

Speaker 4 (39:17):
Oh, he realized both of them were using him, right, they.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
Both suck, right, I'm y'all tied. I'm done with both
of y'all and they know I'm making ham and a woman.
But it seems like like a sitcom story was always
a woman like I'll go with you, Big Papa, and
it's like the guy who's not even remotely involved, Like
it's like Jazz from like Fresh Prince, and like, how
did Jazz walk out with her? It's like when will
somebody else is fighting over? Right? So like that's how

(39:42):
this This is a story that's been told before. That's
what I'm saying, right, It's not like it's an uncommon story.
But yet when you tell it with people who are
good he invested already with the characters going in, it
makes for a great moment. And at the end of
Night one, and part of it for me.

Speaker 3 (39:58):
Is just like finish based and obviously I love the
finish of that, and it's funny because it's obviously if
you're comparing it to my Jay Uso kind of like
problems with him being a world champion. It's completely different
with Eo Sky. Eo Sky is maybe the best women's
worker on the planet. Like she's an incredible wrestler. I
would say that I think Bianca bell Air and Rhea

(40:20):
Ripley are the two biggest stars in the women's division
and the two women that you're gonna build the company
around over the next five plus years, however you want
to shape it. And I don't think EO's on that level.
Like EO's always gonna be someone you could plug into
any main event kind of picture and she's gonna be
able to have a great match. There's no debating that.

(40:42):
I just don't know how many stories I'm gonna be
that invested in for EO as opposed to Riha and Bianca.
Who if you if you had Bianca win that I
know she was on SmackDown, but if you had maybe
you swap the beltzer however you want to do it.
But if Bianca wins, that she keeps the WrestleMania Street.
If Rheo wins that she kind of keeps her invincibility

(41:03):
or whatever you want to say it, and I get
what they're trying to do. They're trying to make another
star and put them on put her on those levels.
And I'm not like angry about it is a fantastic match.
I think it's just if I'm comparing the two matches,
which I think we're both awesome in the ring, I
guess I give the nod to the one that i'd
like to finish up more.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
There you go. Let's move on to the main event
of I guess the whole show, specifically nine two WWE Championship,
you undisputed ww Championship, which I don't know why they
still call it that. Cody Rose and John Cena Nick
start with you thought, your thoughts, Your thoughts on the

(41:43):
main event of WrestleMania, which is, you know, in theory,
in theory, the biggest match of the year. Your thoughts please.

Speaker 4 (41:53):
I was bored from the second the bell ring to
like right now, I'm still bored. Damn, I'm never gonna
watch that match again, you know, like, there's no reason
for me to watch that match again. It was slow
and plotting, and I you know, by design that could
have been seen as m O, right, but they didn't

(42:14):
really tell a story about that. They're not the commentary
didn't kind of hit us over the head with it.
They didn't mention it too much, like it was like
a regular wrestling match to start off, which I thought
was kind of hokey, because like they were Cody Rose
hate shot scene up and now we're doing a wrestling match,
Like it just didn't fit right away. But again, like
I'm trying to give it time, you know, like this

(42:36):
match went twenty one minutes forty seconds, and you know,
five minutes in felt like forever. So I'm just like,
all right, Nick, like just ted try to give it,
you know, like the Rock's gonna show up, so just
prepare for that moment. And you know, we heard the music.
I had no idea who the hell it was because
they didn't show the close up until because I don't

(42:58):
even think it's the name showed up. But finally Travis
Scott came out and I'm just like, Okay, this is
running number one, so you know, let's let's get it moving,
you know, and I'm just waiting for the next one.
And nothing really happened. He had the ref bumph, just
Cody looking like a goober, and oh man, you know

(43:22):
Sina with a belt shot is the only thing like
Cody's laid out, and then the ref just comes in
and counts a three, and I'm just like, that's your
WrestleMania made event. I don't need like a ton of
run ins the way last year happened. I think we
were all prepared for last year's Cody Roman matched like
two to be what it was. But uh no, I

(43:44):
don't think everyone thought we were gonna get the same
type of match. Obviously, we thought the Rock was gonna
show up, so we almost kind of thinking, Okay, well,
somebody's gotta be there to offset the Rock at some point.
Just first of all, the Rock never happened, and then
Travis Scott was the only one. So you're just kind
of like that that's what beat Cody after a year,

(44:08):
you know, seeing it not even celebrating was I think
the best part of that whole thing. He was just
kind of like, yep, I believe you have something that
belongs to me, raise the belt, that's it. Just walk out,
not even celebrating the seventeenth world title reign. Like I'm
cool with that, But just how we got there was
probably one of the worst WrestleMania I'd say worst WrestleMania

(44:31):
main events ever, but definitely one of the worst WrestleMania
main matches ever as well, just based off the expectations,
and I just don't think I don't know where the
story goes from there. You had The Rock on Pat
McAfee yesterday talking about how it really just seemed like
he wanted to go another way, and when that wasn't

(44:52):
what was agreed upon, he dipped and oh that that's
just kind of how it reads. I don't know if
anyone took his interview any differently than that, but that's
I've watched the whole thing, but until they started talking
about his movie stuff and then I just kind of stopped.
So I don't know if they I don't know if

(45:12):
they revisited the wrestling talk after that, but I just
kind of stopped after that. And but I just I
don't that's not a wrestle main event to me, you know,
like it it could have even been seen a winning
clean I would rather see that than the Travis Scott
bs and I think that pulls it down for me.
It's like a star if I was Melzer, not even

(45:34):
sure if it deserves a full star, but that was brutal.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
I think it was better than that in the ring,
like I think it was like a two to two
and a half star match. But that's not what I'm
here to argue. I hated it as much as anybody.
The creative of all of it is it was a joke.
But what I want to and I'll let you guys
kind of talk more about that in the Rock of
it All and all that stuff, what I want to
focus on is like the crowd situation, and they we

(46:01):
mean Nick and Roy talked about it on radio. On SmackDown,
you had Cody start to get booed, and he did
an incredible job in a minute or two of completely
turning the crowd and getting full on you know, white
meat babyface cheers for the rest of that promo, and
then the booze came back out on Sunday, John Cena.

(46:22):
The only good thing about this entire heel turn, potentially
is when on Monday he talked about, you know, this
heel turn is about moments like that, you booing Cody
after everything he's done for the last year, And that's
how I feel about that fan base booing Cody how
how are you booing Cody for this? It's not like
the John Cena heel turn has been so cool that, oh,

(46:44):
we just want to see this guy when the title
has been a.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
Disaster, Like how I don't I'm with you on that one. Mark,
I'm with you all the way on that one. Baby,
I don't get it neither, fickle fans, I'm sorry, but yeah,
uh Roy, your nights, your thoughts, I keep saying, getting
him mixed up, your thoughts on the main event from
night too CoA co.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
Signed on everything that that you know that that Nick said,
I think the crowd was just flat because it was like,
you know, we were all waiting for that shoot a
drop right, like it's at some point, you know, the
rock was who wasn't there for the entire build, Like
it wasn't going to show up a single time since
Elimination Chamber. You know, we figured that, all right, that's
something's gonna happen. And like Nick said, when Travis Scott
when the music hit, I was like, all right, maybe

(47:31):
this is like the Rocks new theme thanks to Travis
happen or something like that, maybe the Rocks coming out
or whatever, you know, you know, but then Travis Scott
came out. He was just by himself, and it's like,
all right, well the.

Speaker 5 (47:45):
Lights are going to go out, right. You know, he's
Undertaker by forty.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
But you know, like all this time, like you know,
the Rock saying he's twenty you know, he's twenty steps ahead.
He's in it for the long game, you know, Da
da da dah. And then he comes on McAfee show,
you know, and he doesn't off for this. But then
he comes on that Cape show and he says he
doesn't want to take the focus away from Cody and Sena. Right,
So instead of you taking the focus away from Cody
and Sina, you let Travis Scott take away from the

(48:11):
focus from Cody and Sena, which obviously makes a lot
more sense, you know, being that you were, you know,
a wrestling guide, You protect the business, blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 5 (48:18):
Like bro like this doesn't.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
Let's not also pretending he didn't take some attention away
from Rock, not from Rock, from Roman Range versus Cody
Rose last year too, exactly, it took at least some
attention away from that.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
You're, yeah, well so you're not holier than now like
you showed up an elimination chamber because you were bored.
You wanted to put yourself in the mix, and you
messed everything up. Like basically, that's all it is. Like
here's the thing, like I think, and I think this
came out the apparently the original plan was for the
scena He'll turn to happen at Mania. So if you
just did you know, if you just had Sena this

(48:51):
win chamber, right, and then you have two baby faces
going at each other for you know, six weeks or whatever,
talking whatever, whatever, and then we get what we got
at Menia without Travis Scott, you know, seeing you know,
turning heel at Mania and winning the title.

Speaker 5 (49:04):
I think that would like that's landing the plane.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
I don't I don't know what the hell happened on Sunday,
but if they had just done that, that would have
been a thousand times better than what we got these
past six weeks.

Speaker 4 (49:14):
I thought about that as the best match of the weekend.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
If that happened, right, if the Rock came out with
Travis Scott, everything else happened the same way. Cody Crossroads
is Travis, but the Rock distracts him or Rock bottoms him,
and that's how Sina wins. How much better do we feel?
Because even if that happened, I don't know, we'd be like, oh,

(49:37):
at least we saw the rock I guess, but I.

Speaker 4 (49:39):
Think it makes Cody look better in a way if
rock Bottom, Like, to me, it just looks so bad.
It's like, why do that to Cody Man?

Speaker 3 (49:47):
To me, the moment I knew that this match was
not going to be what I wanted was when Stone
Cold came out to read.

Speaker 4 (49:54):
The attend man yes, because.

Speaker 3 (49:59):
That was the exact way that Cody was gonna be
able to like fight back, I thought and win the match.
Was if they decided, you know what, the way to
put Cody over is really to have him beat Sina
on the biggest stage, m be endorsed by Austin handed
Beers in the middle of the ring, celebrating with Beers
to close WrestleMania, and by the way that finished to

(50:19):
WrestleMania would be ten thousand times better than what they did.

Speaker 4 (50:24):
Yeah, that would ko him.

Speaker 3 (50:27):
Yeah, you never win tomorrow night and be like, actually,
because I'm the Rocks Champion, I get a rematch tonight,
Like whatever you want to do. Like that would have
been at least even if Cody jobbed the next night
or job the next month, at least he got that
moment of beating Sena and getting put over by Stone Cold.

Speaker 4 (50:44):
It's so funny that you said that, because I thought
the same exact thing when I was watching. When I
heard the glass break, I wasn't like excited. I was like,
son of a bitch, he's not gonna be like literally, like,
I'm sure a bunch of people thought that because we
were hoping, okay, like the rumors that like we knew
he's in town, but there are rumors that he's gonna
get involved possibly, and hey, like it would have been

(51:07):
so much still would have been so much better than
the Undertaker last year, but you know, got the pop whatever.
But then we heard it and it's just like, oh,
like they're not gonna do it again, so he's not
going to be involved in the main event. That really
kind of bummed me out too.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Yeah, this this main event was. It was a tough watch,
I think, especially because I think the bar got raised
a little bit last year from what we expect from WrestleMania,
which the night.

Speaker 4 (51:34):
Before too, with that main event. You know that's true,
you think like, oh, they're not going to have the
Night two main event, not out too the Night won,
So you know something they think, you know, but.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
You would think. But to me, you know the match yourself.
It was what it was. It wasn't great, But I'm
not really expecting a tremendous match out of John Seen
in twenty twenty five, I guess I think my expectations
have lowered for what he can do in the ring. Yeah,
you know this was twenty fifteen. Yeah it's below his standard,
But twenty twenty five and he's working a different style.

(52:04):
He's working as a heel and not as a as
a baby face with you know, essentially a fighting spirit. Essentially,
maybe is different for him. And you know, the first
time he got to really do it was that WrestleMania
in the main event. So does neither hear nor there
To me, the worst part of it is that it
was anti climactic. There wasn't the big calamity at the
end that you even if you have a heel winning,

(52:26):
which again, as an asade, I'm usually of the theory
that WrestleMania is the show of happy endings. But if
you're going to have a heel win, give me drama,
give me action, give me more than what we got
at the end of that match, which is Travis Scott.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
If that's not enough, If they're not gonna do anything
on TV, can we send like Carmelo Hayes to like
Live with John Cena and just like, hey, we have
an hour of free time. Can we get in the
ring and work a little bit here? John, Like it
looks like he hasn't been in a wrestling ring in
five years every time he's in one, Like, I'm not sorry.
I actually think that there was a time period where

(53:04):
him being bad in the ring became overrated. I actually
think he became pretty damn good in the ring for
a good stretch there. But man, he's so slow, so clunky.
Everything is so drawn out, like I thought, even the
moment where you know, Cody looked like nineteen ninety sting
like an idiot, where he wouldn't hit him with the

(53:26):
belt or I I forget if it was the belt of.

Speaker 4 (53:28):
The yeah, oh yeah, but I forgot about that spot.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
That was the worst. That was the worst spot of
the match scene.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
It drew it out for fifteen seconds, like if you
just would have hit him in the nuts after like
three seconds at least, it's not like like Cody stood
there looking like such an idiot for for like twenty second.
It was such a joke.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
They sold Cody out on that one, especially after what
happened last year like you and after his whole year
title run. And that's how he loses, look like a goober,
just like uh, I didn't want to do the wrong thing.
And they did the same thing with aj Styles and
Styles holding the brass nucks who don't want to do
the wrong thing, and then they both lose like suckers.
Like why do y'all make them look like this? You

(54:11):
don't have to put the brass nucks or bring the
morality at all into it. You don't have to do
the morality deal. Just have him lose to how about
I have to heal cheats? How about you have to
heal use the brass nucks or the he'll just use
the belt to begin with. Instead, you got to go
through this, will he won't he? And it's like that
makes him look dumb At the end of.

Speaker 4 (54:30):
The day, I'd even take Cody going for it and
Sena like dodging it and then kicking him in the
nuts like Cody want it was gonna do it, but Sina,
you know, it was too quick for him. I know
it's hard to believe Snea is too quick for anything,
but like I would even I would take that. I
would take that. That what we got, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
It sounds like he was about to China.

Speaker 5 (54:51):
No, no, no, no, I was just laughing. I was
laughing at Nick.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
All right, you like laughing with Nick and say laughing
at you, laughing with you because you funny.

Speaker 3 (54:59):
Got I don't think. I don't think we mentioned this match. Actually,
I am not a Damian Priest guy. I feel like
out of guys who have been pushed to the main event,
Like it's not even like jay Usa where I'm mad
about it. Like I just don't even have an opinion.
Like he comes on my screen and I'm like, okay,
like alrighty Damian Priest, here we go. It'll be fine,

(55:21):
and I will give him credit. I thought that match
was really good. I thought that they had some creative spots.
I thought the finish was really fun with the claymore
in the in the corner with the chair, and I
do that's another guy, like and I get it. He
doesn't not to get back to the merch thing. He
doesn't move merch like Jay Us. So Drew McIntyre really
did carry them throughout the summer and into the fall,

(55:45):
it felt like, with the Seth feud and even some
of the Priests stuff, and then into the Punk feud,
like all the social media stuff. I feel bad that
he didn't get a bigger spotlight at WrestleMania for how
good his year has been. And I hope he gets
a you know, whatever summer kind of push he can
get for Drew this summer. But they that match was awesome,

(56:06):
and I think Drew is, you know, one of the
best in the company at this point.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
All right, let's spend this. I agree with you and
Drew mcintaff. I feel like he was not necessarily in
a big enough spot after the year he had. But
him and Damien Priesce, I think you say the same
thing thing about Damian Priest too, which he was world
heavyweight champion for a long time in twenty twenty four
and it just kind of got forgotten about and lost
in the shuffle and got put together. But they made

(56:32):
the most out of it.

Speaker 3 (56:32):
I thought, one real quick just a fantasy booking, like
if you were gonna do the Paul Hayman turn from
Punk to in Roman to Seth. What they should have
done is they should have had it be like Roman Drew.
You give Drew his big moment since he's been cutting
down the bloodline and trying to get to everybody to
get back to Roman, and you give Roman a big

(56:53):
baby face win at Mania. You have Punk go out
with Paul, or Paul go out with Punk and turn
on him for Seth. And then at Backlash instead of
knowing that you know, Paul's just with Seth, we could
have had another thing where it was Seth, Roman and Paul,
who knows is he going to go back to Roman?
Is he gonna stay with Seth? That would have added
like even another month than another kind of story that

(57:15):
they could have told with it. And I get they
were kind of just ready to get started on this
new story, but that would have been I think, like
a better way to divide the card up and get
kind of more people involved in big matches.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
Yeah, but we got the card that we got, and
we are in some ways that was good. In some
ways that was not great, but it was the card
that we got. But let's thanks. I am interested to
know what's going on. Creative leave behind the scenes because
it feels like.

Speaker 3 (57:44):
It's interesting right on ww unreal.

Speaker 5 (57:50):
I don't know the sanitized version.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
Sure, I'm sure they edited the heavily edited the version,
for sure, But.

Speaker 4 (57:57):
It's just that's such a weird show to have, Like,
but I'm not surprised, but I still think it's weird.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
I try to think of it from like if you're
watching a movie, if you get a Blu ray or
something like that, there's special features. It's behind the scenes footage.
Right the Walking Dead, super popular show. Right after The
Walking Dead will get off the air, the Talking Dead
would start and they would have characters from that episode
talk about yeah because he yeah, because that's when he
was out of wrestling. He was just popping up in
random places. But so from that standpoint, it's like, okay,

(58:28):
kind of other entertainment industries showed behind the scenes footage
from I heard wrestling standpoint. Yeah, it's kind of weird
because you're not used to seeing it, and you kind
of want to suspend that disbelief inness in some ways.
But the cats out of the bag, I mean, the
toothpaste has long been out of the tube, so you
might just show it.

Speaker 4 (58:45):
I want to see somebody saying that doesn't work for me. Brother,
What they don't actually.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
Show, like how how real is it going to be?
How sanitized is it going to be? Because yeah, I'm
sure they'll show some stuff, but like can't show everything, right,
Like even the Hard Knocks doesn't show every single thing
that happens, even they have edits.

Speaker 4 (59:06):
So yeah, we just want to see contract talks and
be like, oh, like he's probably go to a w.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
You want to see somebody get released, get future endeavored,
like he's doing Hard Knocks.

Speaker 4 (59:18):
I would like to not see that. It would just
be funny if they're like, let him go to Jacksonville
or something.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
That's crazy, or we're signing somebody from Jacksonville. Oh yeah,
they got they got some people who made their Restumenia debut,
Penta Enough Ray Phoenix in the same show. Look at that,
they were like.

Speaker 4 (59:35):
He'll break the stereos. Okay, by the way, Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
We just kind of overlooked that. Also didn't talk about
the fact that WW bought a promotion over the weekend,
uh Triple A Wild, which is Wild, not CMLO, which
is like the more established promotion in Mexico. We're talking
about Triple A, which is like the Renegade promotion that
was like the americanized version of Lucia Libre and now
they're owned by an American promotion though, so we'll see

(01:00:00):
how that goes. Uh in the future. I'm sure to
work out great for WW for Triple A, we'll see.
The jury will still be out on that.

Speaker 4 (01:00:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
Uh, but they got Vi Kingo, he's around.

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
I saw they fired del Rio. I think I saw
on Twitter.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
Oh no, they didn't take long at all.

Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
If they did, I think the Triple AH was like, yeah,
that's good.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
That's a tough one.

Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
I've been within twenty four hours.

Speaker 4 (01:00:26):
Triple was the one that said that's not gonna work
for me. Brother.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
Yeah, that's we kind of had. We kind of dealt
with him before and it didn't end well. So yeah, yeah,
they signed him twice. About that twenty sixteen run man,
Nobody remembers that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
So you beat John Cena. He came back in La
at Hell and sell to open the match for the
John Cena Us Open after like months of him beating everybody.
It was Del Rio who ended that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
That's who ended that. That's crazy. I have no recollection
of that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
What's the however, Yeah, it was an open challenge thing
and del Rio came back after years.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
And it was like, oh, okay, you need to be
yelling about that. Bro forget you said yell about you
need to go backets.

Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
From I was truly yelling into the void back then.
I didn't even have a social media account talking about
Twitter at that point for talking about I like.

Speaker 4 (01:01:21):
The most I liked about him was his theme music.
I thought that was like catchyther that was it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
I never forgave del Rio. When my sweet young Prince
Dolph Zigler at this moment in twenty thirteen taken from him,
I guess it was Jackswagger, who can custom But then
del Rio took the belt back from him and it
broke my heart.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
Yeah, not the first time. Jackswagger is much something up.
But but let's move on to Monday Night Raw. We
have a new dangerous alliance for me. We got Paul
Paul Hammon aligning of course with Seth Ronald's we saw
that at the end of Night one. But at the
end of Raw we saw bron Breaker become a Paul

(01:02:05):
Hammond guy.

Speaker 4 (01:02:07):
And we have.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
Two people lining with Paul Haman could there be more?
What are your thoughts on that, Marke Junior Paul Hammond
kind of forming a little faction there at least two
man groups so far, but you know, potentially more. What
do you think about that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
Rebecca Quinn might might be added? Uh after that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
Little heel turn that that Paul ham and Man not
a Paul Ham and guy.

Speaker 4 (01:02:33):
They would sell a ton of birds.

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
W that's crazy, Yeah, but I yeah, I love Becky
Potentially in that maybe you get a tag team. I
don't know if Street profits fit with their like heel
turn kind of, but I don't know if a tag
team would possibly make sense there. But my fantasy booking
for this is Seth takes the world bet off a

(01:03:00):
as soon as possible ideal but whether that be as
money in the bank or whatever you want to say,
and Bron wins the briefcase, and then we get months
of Seth holding the bell looking over his shoulder as
Bron helps him win matches, but he's right there to
kind of cash in, and then eventually we get that

(01:03:22):
Seth Broun feud to fully put Braun over. I don't
know how long this this this this.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
Sounds like I see it at WrestleMania forty two. I
see dogs barking and Nuans.

Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
Bron seth main event. That sounds like a main event
to me.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
Sounds like it's me too.

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
You kind of want to see them on that the
Tiffany Stratton NYA Jacks Angle kind of thing, A good version.

Speaker 3 (01:03:46):
More like Triple H Batista, but with the briefcase. And
you could do it without the briefcase too, if you
wanted to briefcase.

Speaker 5 (01:03:53):
A briefcase makes it better like that. Well I asked for.
All I have asked for was bron Breaker and Paul Hayman.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
I mean, like that's that's the guy man like he
needs like he give him a mouthpiece, give him a heater,
give him somebody who can, you know, help him get
to that next level. I mean, this is all I want,
Like I don't care what happens. And I think I
think you're right. I think it's inevitably. I think Rolin
is gonna win that you know, you know my friends
and I call it the super Continental Belt. So I
think he'll win that belt off the Jay and then

(01:04:22):
and then some and then you know, then Browno. You
know obvious, there'll be some infighting between them, and Brono
went him off of him. But like, I just give
me bron and Hayman Man, bron and Hayman. You know this,
this generations, you know, Hayman and lesnar Man.

Speaker 5 (01:04:34):
I love it. I mean look wrong for me. He
was great.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
There was a bunch of other great stuff, you know,
the Guthro Pat McAfee thing I'm sure we'll talk about,
and you know, the the return of Russev slash Muro.
But bron Breaker and Hayman, I've been asking for this
for years and since he came up to the main rockter,
we finally got it. So wherever this goes Man, I'm
all for it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
Do we have more members to this group? Can you speculate?

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
Becky Lynch?

Speaker 5 (01:04:56):
I think.

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
Yeah, I think Becky makes the most sense. And I
guess since I guess, since I guess, since these guys
are I guess Haym is now wants on Raw, I
guess maybe we get some we get some raw. If
there's somebody else on Raw who's gonna be in maybe
maybe New Day.

Speaker 5 (01:05:12):
I don't know. I don't know. I would have thought
about tag teams, but yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
You think a tag team could round it out, right.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
Right, I think they probably need a tag team around that.
But it's like two tag teams on I guess, I
guess Judgment Day. I guess the Cross the Judgment Day.

Speaker 3 (01:05:27):
Maybe it's not a tag teams.

Speaker 5 (01:05:30):
Yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
Just I just feel like Cross has already just was
just in a group that didn't work. And I'm not
saying this group won't work, but I feel like Cross
he needs to be on his own, That's what I'm saying.
I think he needs that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
Random instigator guy is probably the best use for Crosses.
The random Hey, let me throw him in a feud
with a guy for three weeks and let him, you know,
get him over.

Speaker 5 (01:05:51):
I think that's probably the best use for Cross.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
Its very least of him trying to blossom on his own.
Put him in a group. I don't know if that's
the most helpful thing for him.

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
Right now, I'm trying to kind of think of guy Maybe.
I don't know if Carmelo makes sense. I'm just trying
to think of guys who are without something to do,
who are too talented to be without something to do.
I guess, like Bronson reed.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
What whatever, I think that'd be a. That'd be an
interesting one because if you put in with Seth Ronalds,
they still got beef, right, you would assume.

Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
Maybe he comes out, he comes out and sets in
a big match, and you think, oh, he's gonna man
the other guy or something.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
Maybe maybe maybe you move one of those SmackDown tag
teams like d I Y to Raw and they're they're
the tag team. I don't know because the role, like
you said, the raw tag team division is kind of
cheeks right now, like that's not much going on.

Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
There's two guys who aren't necessarily a tag team. Well,
and I'm not saying Pa and Ray Phoenix don't really
make sense. But if there's two guys who aren't a
tag team, now who you put them together and you
know they could be added as two individuals, but they
could kind of end up as being like the the
tag team that like Cizarro and Seamous how they were
like kind of throwing together. But I'm trying to think

(01:07:09):
of two guys in the mid card like that, Like
if there's like a Carmelo and Blank William.

Speaker 1 (01:07:15):
The Miss.

Speaker 3 (01:07:17):
I don't think I think Miss.

Speaker 5 (01:07:19):
Wells, Yeah, well, miss and Mellow are doing something now so.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
Yeah, no, I know, I know they're not gonna do it.

Speaker 5 (01:07:25):
Maybe I don't know, when he comes back, maybe like
a Bronson Reid and somebody, you know, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
Yeah I can I can see it. I can see
him in Bronson Read and Seth Ronald squashing the beef
logan Paul, oh boy.

Speaker 4 (01:07:39):
People already hate him.

Speaker 5 (01:07:40):
They do.

Speaker 4 (01:07:41):
I don't think he necessarily needs that. I mean, like,
I could see it.

Speaker 5 (01:07:46):
Doing nothing. Just got there.

Speaker 4 (01:07:48):
You go.

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
Russe is interesting. You get Lana in there too, probably.

Speaker 4 (01:07:53):
Yeah, they differently signed as well, so yeah together, I didn't.
Yeah they are they are.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
Yeah, good for them.

Speaker 4 (01:08:03):
But I hope they they I'm just a little afraid
of what they might call it because sometimes their names
are just well. But I would love for them to
keep the Dangerous Alliance, like I not keeping it like
they already did it. But if they use that name,
like it would just be great. I think, you don't
know what. I think the name will probably be what

(01:08:26):
I look forward to the most.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
It's probably gonna be something trash, but the Danger's Alliance
is the way to go. Uh, but they probably come
up with some garbage.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
Yeah, we'll get like the like the freaking Dogs or
something like that.

Speaker 4 (01:08:42):
Becky Joys the freaking man.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
Dogs Man, this is going in a different direction.

Speaker 3 (01:08:50):
They should absolutely come out on Monday and Paul Hayman
should say that his name is not Bron Breaker, his
name is Bron Steiner.

Speaker 4 (01:08:56):
Like and I take that. I take it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:59):
I worked with his father and I worked with Scott,
and they're the best tag team I've ever seen. Ya
ya YadA like.

Speaker 4 (01:09:06):
That's I literally just thought you might, like I thought
Mark were talking about you worked with them.

Speaker 3 (01:09:16):
Were the Steiner brothers in the Sting squadron in that
legendary War Games match? I have to think back.

Speaker 4 (01:09:24):
Might have been because it's I know it's because we definitely.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
We've done Russell right, yeah, look at it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
But either way, I mean, they definitely have history, both
of those guys, the Styner brothers showed up in E
c W.

Speaker 4 (01:09:47):
For that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:47):
Well, I'm sure that there is. You know, Paul can
find some connection to to the Steiner brothers obviously, But
I I think that's the perfect time to get rid
of that stupid Vince Edi. It's like Scott, they're showing
Scott and Rick on camera calling them like his father
and his uncle. He's like, but his name is bron

(01:10:08):
Breaker and he's like.

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
Right with two k's stupid one more K we got
an issue. So uh, first, let's go back to the
beginning of the show. Though we got a main event
for Backlash already in Saint Louis. It's gonna be Saint
Louis's own at least, but the way it looks, Saint
Louis's own Randy Orton challenging for the World title ww
Championship against John Cena. They've been advertising both of them

(01:10:33):
before WrestleMania as like featured members of the show. So
there was like, I think you're kind of tipping what
the main event is going to be, and we're we're
going to get there Randy Orton r KOs Johnson out
of nowhere, and we're probably going to see where this goes.
Setting that we've seen this match, I mean no less
than a dozen times, but now the roles are reversed.

(01:10:54):
How are we feeling about that?

Speaker 3 (01:10:56):
Nick?

Speaker 4 (01:10:57):
Uh? Not great, because I get it, Like, I'm sure
the crowd reaction will be there. I'm sure the heat
will be there. Randy Orton and Saint Louis, I'm sure, Uh,
it'll be fun for him to Maine event that, but
I just I always wanted it to be Randy and Cody. Man.
I thought that was I thought that was a better

(01:11:20):
match for that. So we didn't even see Cody Monday,
did we. I don't think he was even on the show.
So I'm not even sure he's going to be a backlass.

Speaker 3 (01:11:29):
So now not advertised, Oh wow.

Speaker 4 (01:11:32):
So yeah, if we get I mean, I guess it's
I'm not I'm not gonna be like crazy watching, Like
I'll watch the undercard probably and be more excited about that,
and I'll watch the main event and just see Travis
Scott come out again and distract Randy and see it.

(01:11:52):
Can imagine that if they did that again.

Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
And they would be throwing trash in the ring. Louis
all right and seeing the promo like, oh there's trash
in the ring represents you fans.

Speaker 4 (01:12:03):
You fans can stick it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:07):
Cody was clunky, This is.

Speaker 4 (01:12:10):
Gonna yeah, yeah, because Randy's like jacked, but he's also
slow and you know, because he's so jacked.

Speaker 3 (01:12:17):
So yeah, I I don't know. I'm not excited about
it at all. I was like, you know, I was
hoping for Cody. Randy I'm a legacy mark. Bring Ted
dB Ausy Junior back.

Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
How many'm a legacy Mark.

Speaker 3 (01:12:33):
But I was rooting for Cody Randy. It's unbelievable that
we had a year long Cody Rhads title a title
reign and we didn't get Cody Randy.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
I I don't get Yeah, that's kind of nuts.

Speaker 5 (01:12:45):
Randy was hurt. He was hurt.

Speaker 3 (01:12:48):
Was he hurt for a lot of it though, like
because he was there for the first couple of months
after me and I think a few months, but the
Vivor series, right, yeah, after the Pile Driver too.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
The pile Driver they got when Kevin Owan they sent
them home, So.

Speaker 3 (01:13:01):
Yeah, he's probably gone for a couple months there. Yeah,
I just I wish we could have got that Cody read.

Speaker 4 (01:13:06):
If we could have got Cody, said Cody solo.

Speaker 3 (01:13:11):
If I'm Cody, yes, yeah, If I'm Cody, I'm taking
off a couple months. Like he's been road for like
three years non stop, it feels since whenever he came
back from the Tech or the pectear, it's been it's
been NonStop on the road for him. So I it

(01:13:33):
wouldn't And honestly, those booze which I think are nonsense,
and I actually think they're being overstated. I wasn't. I
didn't think it was like deafening on TV or anything
like when he had some big moves, I thought they
got behind him too. Like, I don't think it was
as bad as some things we've seen in the past,
but it was notable because it's this weekend. Was really
the first time I feel like we've seen that at

(01:13:53):
all with Cody. It's been he's been so widely accepted
as a baby. I mean, I was a SmackDown in
Philly like a month ago, and that's you know, Philly,
a tough market. After eleven months is a babyface champ.
You'd think they wouldn't be throwing babies at him. We
absolutely were, Like there was he was fully over still,
there was no sign of decline there. But if even

(01:14:16):
if I do think it was a little overstated, this
is probably the time for him to go away a
little bit, come back in four months as a surprise
at some point and people will be excited again.

Speaker 4 (01:14:25):
Yeah, he's also had the run of his life. I
wouldn't be surprised if even he's like, all right, like
I need a break so John can beat me, and
I'll go away and I'll come back and hopefully nothing
else change. He'll still be a man of enter and
eventually win the title back at some point. I mean,
if I was Cody, I would be really really hesitant

(01:14:46):
to do that because I'm just I've grown up in
the business. I know how it is. But possibly he's
earned his you know, keep there and maybe he can
request something like that if he really needed to not
be in danger of losing a spot if he were
to come back.

Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
Yeah, I think Cody's fine. He's earned the time off.
If he's getting time off, yeah, because like I think
we've all said, he's been doing this NonStop, essentially as
a champion too, for a year straight. And even he
was saying, like before he won the championship, you act
like you are the champion without the belt, and throughout
twenty three into twenty four, that was Cody Rhodes.

Speaker 4 (01:15:25):
Before he became the champion.

Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
He was like, right, he's the top baby face in
WW And then he won the title and kept doing
it and was not, as far as I know, didn't
have extended breaks in twenty twenty four. Uh So, yeah,
he's earned it, But I would be more excited for
seeing it, and Orton, if seen as he'll turn, has
been more exciting up until this point because on paper

(01:15:49):
it's tremendous, Like on paper, you have this long, not
really storied ribbery because even a rivaly back in the
day wasn't that great, Like we got tired of it.
They ran it back to me times, it got kind
of repetitive, and the roles never really changed. It is
Johnson is a good guy, Randy Orton is the bad guy.
And now it's virtually the same every time, right, And

(01:16:10):
it seemed like it happened so much in like twenty
like two thousand and nine, twenty eleven, it's just like, ah,
we're done with it, Sorry about that, but you run
it back years later. They're both legendary figures now and
I'm gonna say they weren't back then, but they're both
legendary figures. They haven't really touched in years by this point.
But now the roles are reversed, and now Randy Orton's

(01:16:32):
gonna call out john Seen and blah blah blah, vice versa.
And it sounds great, but it's just in reality, it
ain't not here for it, Like okay, what's Johnson gonna
talk about. It's he gonna talk about the fans more. Well,
he's gonna feud with the guy cross from him, which
is Randy Orton. They got history, at least with Cody.

(01:16:53):
It was like they don't have that much history. And
his heel turn was still kind of fresh, so I
guess he you know, that was his time to heal
on the fans. But now this is you know, old rival.
You're gonna talk to this guy. You talk to Randy Orton,
maybe get some heat here.

Speaker 4 (01:17:10):
He's gonna talk about the Rams going back to La.

Speaker 1 (01:17:12):
Oh, that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:17:15):
I know they belong in l A.

Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
By the way, I'm sorry Saint Louis, but the Ram
shouldn't shouldn't have left LA. Honestly, the Cardinals belong to
Saint Louis. How about that? So I know I'm football Cardinals.
You know what I'm talking about?

Speaker 5 (01:17:27):
Roy, That's right, Neil Lomack shout out.

Speaker 1 (01:17:30):
Hey, Otis Anderson, there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:17:34):
But it obviously the Scena Orton feud is legendary, but
I feel like for most of us who lived through it,
it's legendary for being like again, like we're righty then
this is what we're breaking glass and keeps an emergency
for again the scene of feud and I again I'm
the cmpunk loser. But the scene of feud that's sitting
out there, that we all enjoyed when it happened, no

(01:17:56):
matter how many times it happened, was seen a punk
and I get it. In Saint Louis, I get that
Randy is It's it's you know, he wasn't on Mania.
He kind of or he was, he was, but he
got screwed out of having like a meaningful story on Mania.
So I kind of get giving him this big moment.
But man, if you were going to reach back and

(01:18:18):
instead of doing some potential dream matches for Sina with
new main inventors who we haven't seen him against, potentially,
I would rather have seen a punk scene a story
because I think there's more heat there, there's more juice there,
there's and I think it would end up being a
better product in the ring.

Speaker 4 (01:18:36):
I would be surprised.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
I was gonna say when you just say that for
Summer Slam, I wouldn't do that now because I right,
you know, back lasting Louis, Randy Orton like you like Sea,
like Seena. At some point in his run, Scena had
to fight Orton, right, like it has to be a
match between the two.

Speaker 1 (01:18:51):
I think he also has to fight Punk to Mark
run back some old hits with the.

Speaker 3 (01:18:57):
Reverse exactly, Like, I I hope it's not like we
have like eight feuds, but let's say we have like
eight scene of feuds here for the rest of the
year with eight different people or how four different people,
six different people, whatever that number is, Like, I hope
they're not willing to only use one of those on
like an old rival, Like, I hope this isn't just
like we're just gonna do this old rival and then
the rest are going to be these kind of like

(01:19:19):
stars of the New Day and not not new Day,
but like the stars and the guys that hasn't seen yet.
Thank God, the wan say, But I hope, I really really,
I'm such a mark for the scene of punk rivalry
outside of just being a punk fan. I think that's
like what turns Sena that that feud and then the
Daniel Bryant story, I think like turns Sena around for

(01:19:42):
a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (01:19:43):
You had some interesting people to work against opposed to Wade.
Wade Barrett nothing is Wade Bear. But they didn't really
they didn't make they didn't really make him look great
in their portrayal of Wade Bear. Bad news, right, some
bad news was he was losing again and is a
bad dw so, but yeah, this the thing is with

(01:20:06):
seeing it is now they're counting down his days or
his dates, right, and I think they counted down to
what like twenty something twenty twenty, because it's five.

Speaker 5 (01:20:15):
He was twenty six as of Monday or whatever, so
it's twenty five.

Speaker 1 (01:20:19):
Well, it's the dates, so I guess you count Monday.
I guess, uh so twenty five. I do like that
part of the store. It's like a ticking clock, and
ticking clocks usually add drama. And if they really really
wanted to drag this out, they could have him hold
the title till he has one day left and that's
when maybe Cody comes back in and he saves wrestling, right, or.

Speaker 5 (01:20:42):
You couldna save wrestling right, right.

Speaker 1 (01:20:45):
That's how they're gonna paint this. It's not they're gonna
portray this, right, So you could drag it out if
if you really want to just give scene it pretty
much the whole year, right, as Champ and take it
down to one. Now, that could be interesting. There's something
there if you execute along the way with with some
interesting feuds, some old and some new, just with the

(01:21:06):
roles again, reverse with the old ones and you have
some new ones in there, or you can have them
drop it before that and have them going to apology
to work that. I'm like, sorry, y'all, I mean to
do that. I want my right, I want my I
want my never give up fans and back please the
little scene scencts I guess snaights or whatever. But yeah,

(01:21:34):
it's that so that ticking clock for me is interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:21:38):
But we still that's like black and white too. There's
like no came out.

Speaker 1 (01:21:45):
And again that's something that's like on paper, like that's
a good visual because it's complete opposite of the old scene.
But everything else isn't there. There's just something missing, like
they're doing something good, there's something there, but this is
just not whole, doesn't still hold. There's something and hopefully
they can start filling that in uh before backlash. So

(01:22:06):
we can't make scene versus orton feel more important.

Speaker 4 (01:22:09):
It doesn't feel whole. It feels like there's a hole,
you know, what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:22:13):
Yeah, I got you, I got you. I'm picking up
what you're putting down.

Speaker 4 (01:22:19):
I do hope that you know again we say December, right,
but Survivor series and November is going to be in
San Diego. Ray Mystereo maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe see
him mysterio again.

Speaker 1 (01:22:34):
Well dominant, baby fass.

Speaker 4 (01:22:40):
No war games. I don't think this year. So that's
a shame.

Speaker 1 (01:22:43):
Well, we'll see, we'll see, We'll see, Yeah, we'll see.

Speaker 3 (01:22:46):
I would love I think I don't want this to
be like a nine or whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:22:52):
I guess.

Speaker 3 (01:22:52):
Eight months at this point, story was seen as like
get into Summer Slam or whatever you wanted, money in
the bank, have him job, and turn him Babyface back
for like this last couple of months before it ends
like this is not working. The Rock involvement fell flat
and is probably not even gonna I don't think Rock's
gonna get involved with the rest of this year. He

(01:23:14):
wasn't getting involved.

Speaker 4 (01:23:15):
In Yeah, probably not.

Speaker 3 (01:23:16):
I don't see Rock being involved in May to December
while seen in this run, So turn him back Babyface
as soon as you can, Like this is a disaster.
He got the seventeenth title. We're done with it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:27):
Yeah, it final. It kind of felt anti conmactic for
the seventeenth title too. That was a monumental moment that, yeah,
we were kind of waiting for for decades, like, oh,
who can get to six even sixteen more titles? And
I feel like his sixteenth more title was a big
deal when he tied the record, and then when he
breaks it, it's like, and he's a champion, but then
the commentary, the commentary doesn't really acknowledge the fact that

(01:23:48):
he cheated to win the title. It's just like he's
a seventeen time world champion. He used to go and
they put out all the graphics on I saw all
the graphics on social media and it's like he's he's
he's broken the record. It's like, yeah, he cheated, though
nobody's gonna mention that, Like the announcers aren't going to
mention that they didn't monish him. I need more monishment
of John Cena.

Speaker 4 (01:24:08):
Where is the second ref to come down and be
like wait a second, no, no, right, start the match.
They've done that probably what we were gonna get because
I was like, there's no way they're gonna add a
Wrestlemantia that way, right, that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:23):
Would have been created like a dusty finish.

Speaker 4 (01:24:25):
Are right?

Speaker 1 (01:24:28):
They did, they did do what they did and it
wasn't tremendous. But anything else from WrestleMania Weekend that kind
of stood out to you, Like I said, w W
bar Triple A. I heard the Lex Luger stood up
to Hall of Fame to go to wrestle Con because
it was a bigger payday. Don't blame me Lex to
a certain extent, I get it, you know, like to

(01:24:48):
a certain extent.

Speaker 3 (01:24:50):
But yeah, I haven't absolutely zero out of ten terrible
joke I can make about what Vaughan just said, And
I don't know if this is base to make it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:04):
There's probably not.

Speaker 3 (01:25:06):
I don't want to. I don't want to get canceled.
I'm not at apparently I'm not at the Tony Hinchcliff
Roast where Paul Boy say whatever he wants. I can
only I.

Speaker 1 (01:25:17):
Can only imagine where Paul Hayman was sitting at the
Tony Hinchcliff Roast on TV. So I can't imagine, right exactly,
Like I saw what he said on Pat McAfee show,
and that was wild. Even Pat McAfee is like, hey,
whoa bro. Take it easy. You can't tell everybody this,
even though everybody could assume that he does that. But
anything else stood up from like non w W stuff,

(01:25:39):
you know, big matches that happened over the weekend, you
know from GCW or blood Sport, anything like that, or
any happenings that you guys may have seen on social media. Uh,
anything like that Hall of Fame. You know, that was
long and boring. I'm sure anybody can jump in.

Speaker 4 (01:25:54):
I did not even tune in one second of the
If it was at ten o'clock Eastern, then I would have.

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
But no way, there's no way even at ten o'clock
Easter when I was watching that.

Speaker 3 (01:26:04):
I would suggest watching the Triple H speech. It's if
you're a nerd like we are for that era. He
does a better job than most Hall of Fame speeches
do have kind of like taking you through some of
the big moments of his career pretty chronologically. Like I
thought it was a really good speech by him. To
give him credit. He did give jay Uso a world title,
so he's not perfect.

Speaker 4 (01:26:25):
But I did hear. I did hear he did not
mention the rock.

Speaker 3 (01:26:29):
He didn't, and he mentioned he mentioned everybody and one
thing I will put over from that because Undertaker, that
scumbag didn't mention Mick Foley in his Hall of Fame speech,
which is an absolute joke because obviously Undertaker's involved in
that big moment in nineteen ninety eight with the Hell
in a Cell. But Midfoley also like saved Undertaker's career

(01:26:51):
a little bit in ninety six when he came into
WWE and revitalized him from working with the giant Gonzalezes
and the King Kong Bundy's of the world world and
actually gave him like a meaningful feud that people liked
with good matches and showed he could work a little
and Undertaker didn't mention mcfoley. Credit to Triple H for

(01:27:12):
going out of his way to like tell mcfoley how
important he was to him at the Hall of Fame
and really devote like a couple of minutes to talking
about how big Foley was to his career because he
was fully Maybe it's crazy to say that, I don't
know how this turned into me being like marking out
for mcfoley every every star of the Attitude era, you
can like draw a direct line to them, like booming

(01:27:35):
and becoming a megastar to like the sacrifices mcfoley made
for them, like the Rock obviously, with that feud in
early ninety nine, Triple H with the street fight in
two thousand Stone Cold. You could even say with that
first title feud after winning the title, Undertaker obviously had
just laid out. So shout out mcfoley, even though he
had nothing to do with this weekend.

Speaker 4 (01:27:56):
Yeah, I like that. I was. I was thinking about
the Austoin thing right away. You have to he said
that like he's and they gave him that world title
win over the Rock, uh you know when he passes
in the seats and stuff, and I mean, like mcfoley,
I think is like a forgotten hero almost absolutely, So
shout out to mcfoley for.

Speaker 1 (01:28:17):
Giving him credit for it. I'm sorry, but I can't
watch it, bro it's too late and it's too long.

Speaker 4 (01:28:25):
I watched it.

Speaker 3 (01:28:26):
I watch it the next day. I was not watching
it at two am.

Speaker 1 (01:28:30):
That's fair, that's wild stuff. Yeah, anything else from WrestleMania weekend,
I feel like it was kind of like, I mean,
there was some news story to come out, but like
I didn't maybe I didn't notice like all any type
of fan type of stuff that happened, you know, in
any interesting story to come out.

Speaker 4 (01:28:45):
Of the old Steve Awston ran over fan.

Speaker 1 (01:28:47):
Yes, that's the headline for sure. First get up the ramp.
I'm watching it. I'm like, man, this is this has
taken long. Maybe I guess he's on the four wheeler.
I'm assumed on the four wheeler, but like it's still
taking a while. And then he was whipping around those corners.
I was saying, he's whipping around that and then oh no,

(01:29:10):
like everybody's scram over, like please, God, don't see it.

Speaker 4 (01:29:14):
He goes over there and then he looks at the camera.
You see that face he makes like he's like like that.
I've never seen him make that face before. I was
just like, oh my god, Like this is hilarious.

Speaker 1 (01:29:26):
Steve Wise is in the back, Like what happened?

Speaker 3 (01:29:28):
Man, if we're going outside the ring, you had the
tariff chief room and reins turning. But that's a whole
other conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:29:39):
Yeah, yeah, people said, you know, people have their opinions,
you know, whether you agree or disagree. I will say
he said that he didn't agree with everything, but what
what what.

Speaker 3 (01:29:51):
That means yea.

Speaker 4 (01:29:54):
Fame.

Speaker 5 (01:29:55):
Yeah, protecting that check. I got you.

Speaker 1 (01:29:58):
What that means is left to be unset right now.
But take that for what you will. But uh yeah,
interesting interesting week weekend overall, I think and I wonder.
I'm really really curious, especially after this Rock interview, what's
going on creatively behind the scenes and ww because I

(01:30:21):
feel like they I don't know if they can ignore
the fact that that was that main event. Let the
little be desired.

Speaker 4 (01:30:27):
I don't know if Ari Emmanuel needs to be involved
in that creative decision making, you know, like they say
there's a team there, and you know, I guess they
vote on it. But it's like, can we put the
wrestling guys like voting.

Speaker 1 (01:30:42):
Hey, you got an owner of an NFL team and
lets his son pricks players based off of what happens
in Madden bro in the video game. So you better
believe Ari Emmanuel might make a decision or two. Okay,
One thing you should know about a billionaires, they like
to make decisions like they come in and take control.
You see, this is how we should do it. See
And in the case of the Jets owner Woody Johnson,

(01:31:03):
sometimes that goes off the Madden rating, bro, if you
are right, man, y'all don't know what he's Hopefully he's
not basing it off of two K ww TWK raiding.
I don't know, but he might be ninety nine in
the next two K game. All right, then they don't
pay for the rights to get Travis Scott. He going
to be the best character in the game. Okay, don't
be everybody, But if you guys have nothing else from

(01:31:27):
WrestleMania weekend, oh, Nick, go ahead.

Speaker 4 (01:31:30):
You know, before we went on the air, we talked
a little bit about it, but wrest he's to Steve Mango.
McMichael passed away today earlier today. Uh, you know, he
really didn't get his respects while he was wrestling. But
I think a lot of people, you know, in recent years,
I've come to appreciate his you know, foray into pro

(01:31:53):
wrestling after football. And you know, I didn't watch football
when he was playing football, but I was watching wrestling
when he came in to be part of LT's team
at Wrestlming eleven, and then when he was in WCW
and as member of the Four Horsemen, and you know,
I didn't appreciate it then, but you know, he did

(01:32:14):
his best and he became a pro wrestler that you
know people either loved or hated. I mean like he
he got it, he understood pro wrestling. So rest in
peace to Steve Mango met Michael.

Speaker 1 (01:32:29):
Yes, So rest in peace to Mango passed away today
after a his four year battle with ALS which sounds
like a horrible, horrible, horrible disease, but he was diagnosed
at in twenty twenty one and he passed away to
day at the age of sixty seven. Mango, fortunately before
he passed on, was enshrined into the Pro Football Hall

(01:32:51):
of Fame last year, which I felt like we was
talking about in this podcast for multiple years leading up,
like every time we watched it, Mongo matches like he
should probably be in the Hall of Fame, Like just
based on his merit alone, just look at his numbers
as a defensive lineman, he should probably be in the
Hall of Fame. And he played in one hundred and
ninety one consecutive games, which is insane for a defensive

(01:33:13):
lineman in the eighties, saying like that's crazy. And of
course he was a member of the nineteen eighty five Bears,
which is still considered one of the greatest defenses of
all time. Mongo was a two time All Pro, three
time two times first team All Pro, three times second
team All Pro, and a two time Pro Bowler. So

(01:33:36):
rest in peace to Mongo Mark Roy. I let you, guys,
if you have any thoughts about Steve McMichael, the floor
is yours.

Speaker 5 (01:33:46):
I think I think you pretty much. You pretty much
nailed it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:48):
I mean, like again, like you know, a lot of
people didn't give him the credit you know he deserved.
I don't think you know, while he was a wrestler,
but he again, he was a very competent member you know,
the Four Horsemen. I mean again, when you're you know,
kind of thrown in, you know, a program with Rouge
Flair and you know and Arn Anderson, I mean like,
you know, it's kind of a sinker some kind of thing.

Speaker 5 (01:34:04):
He was fine, you know, he was like he was
he was a character.

Speaker 2 (01:34:06):
He was just you know, he had his own kind
of lane, you know with the Horseman. So again, kudos
to to Mongo Miing Michael. Again, that was you know,
he's a guy who again was able to kind of
make that transition that a lot of guys can't you know,
from from football to professional wrestling.

Speaker 5 (01:34:19):
So again, you know, throw some prayers with with his
family and friends.

Speaker 3 (01:34:23):
He gave us Deborah. You know, we wouldn't have had Deborah.

Speaker 5 (01:34:26):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 (01:34:30):
True the Halliburton supercase and the briefcase.

Speaker 5 (01:34:33):
Was gonna say, he like he was the before John
Moxley gave us a briefcase. It's a briefcase.

Speaker 4 (01:34:37):
Yeah, it's so funny, Like Deborah went to the back,
came back out with like Liz and woman. I was like,
here's a briefcase with like, you know, a bunch of cash.
We should be we should join.

Speaker 1 (01:34:46):
The Horseman was like, all right, I mean that's all
the brains behind that briefcase full of cash. This is right,
let's do it. Is Mongo's briefcase? Was say, is that
the second his famous briefcase in wrestling because we got
money in the bank. Maybe the Halliburton, I rs, yeah,

(01:35:08):
I arrested one for a long time. That might be.
That might be number two. And then is Moxley's four
Is that even on the list?

Speaker 2 (01:35:17):
No, not my list, No, No, I think I think
I think Tiffany Stratton's Pink Pink money in the Bank briefcase.

Speaker 1 (01:35:26):
Remember the the was it like Damien Sandal had like
a brown briefcase when he won money in the bank.
That was interesting and.

Speaker 2 (01:35:33):
We had the Damian priests had the signor send your money.

Speaker 1 (01:35:37):
Yeah, that's true briefcase. Yeah, Steve McMichael, good memories and
great memories and PROG wrestling.

Speaker 4 (01:35:45):
Briefcase could use to smash Brutus peafcakes facing what he
was wearing the mask.

Speaker 1 (01:35:53):
In the in the promos and he's just running back
and forth hitting him in the phase. I don't know
if you guys have ever seen this promo, but you
it's wild. It's wild. But again, best in peace to
Steve McMichael, former ww United States Champion, WCW United States Champion,
and Pro Football Hall of Famer. One of the best

(01:36:13):
of all time on the football field. So on that note,
let's take us out with some plugs please, So, Mark,
do you have anything you want to promote before we
get out of here?

Speaker 3 (01:36:25):
If depending when this comes out, NFL Draft stream tonight
with Shane haff and Dodds, check out my Twitter at
Mark Emmy Junior NFL for that information.

Speaker 2 (01:36:37):
All right, Roy, you can check me out on Twitter
at the bs line this weekend. Alright, coming up soon,
I'll be doing some NFL Draft stuff for phl Y Sports.
We're recapping the Eagles first round selectlypically make one and
previewing what's gonna happen in rounds two through three. So
if you guys can check it out phl Y Sports

(01:36:58):
on YouTube, you can. You'll see me there doing the
Eagle stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:37:01):
Are you gonna be on there with Fran Duffy.

Speaker 2 (01:37:04):
I guess I don't know if those guys are gonna
call in. It was me and me and Jamie. I
don't know if the guys are gonna call it from
Green Bay, so probably to Green Bay. Okay, yeah, I
think those guys. I think those guys are gonna be
out in Green Bay. Bow and Fran and those guys.
So I'm not sure who's gonna be in a studio
other than me and Jamie. But yeah, I'll be on.

Speaker 5 (01:37:19):
I'll be on there for before round two and three.

Speaker 1 (01:37:22):
Nice. Nice my guy, Frank duff At least I like
Fran Duffy a lot. Shout out to Fran Duffy. He's
good dude. Uh Nick about.

Speaker 4 (01:37:29):
The Phillies are off tomorrow night, so I can tune
into the NFL drafts and TNA Impact. Not just kidding,
I don't really watch that. That's You can follow me
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(01:38:14):
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Speaker 1 (01:38:20):
All right, I am at von M. Johnson on the
platform known as X. I'm also at Vaughan dot Johnson
on Blue Sky man. I always forget my It's just
Vaughn Johnson man. This is a weekly thing, guys. I'm
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(01:38:40):
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fash but yeah, we're on there. We're also on Patreon,
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(01:39:04):
request a non pay per view, please do again. We
can do movies, we can do TV shows. Since we're
now out of WrestleMania season, we're probably gonna try to
get into some more non wrestling show related content, whether
that's some movies or TV shows. So being a lookout
for those deep dives. And in the future, I believe
we got a springstamp coming up, but a deep dive WCW.

(01:39:28):
We need to get into some more ECW. I meaning
to talk about this. We need to get some more
ECW deep dives, you know. I know they're not going
to be the same on Peacock, you know, but we
can still try to delve into them. But we got
a Springstampede coming up. I forget which she is at.

Speaker 4 (01:39:41):
Ninety eight, We do ninety seven and ninety eight, but
if we will talk about just choosing one of those
probably instead.

Speaker 1 (01:39:48):
Of okay, but we've got some springste I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:39:54):
Yeah, I'm a ninety seven guy.

Speaker 1 (01:39:56):
There you go. We'll talk about it. But outside of that.

Speaker 3 (01:40:00):
Heat Wave ninety eight, that's the suggestion if you're if
you're breaking.

Speaker 4 (01:40:03):
The CT that's what probably their best pay per view ever.

Speaker 1 (01:40:07):
Yeah, for sure that would be tops on the list.
I don't think we've even we.

Speaker 4 (01:40:11):
Have Barely Legal and Wressell Palooza.

Speaker 3 (01:40:14):
One of the wres is really good. Yeah, I forget
which one.

Speaker 4 (01:40:17):
I think one with Shane Douglas and else know.

Speaker 1 (01:40:20):
Okay, we did okay, but yeah, we can get into
some more of that, but also non show related things,
so like movies, TV shows. So we're gonna do Iron clag,
gonna be Queen of the Ring and uh what we say,
Suburban Commando, Santa's Slay, Santa Slay not Santa Clause.

Speaker 5 (01:40:41):
Be good.

Speaker 1 (01:40:42):
It sounds like a classic be good B horror movie.
R a horror B movie. But we're gonna do all that.
But again, if you want to request something Patreon dot
com slash Shooters Radio for Mark Henry Jr. Roy Burton
and a pecone. I am Vaughn Johnson. Thanks for listening
to episode four twenty seven of The Straight Shooters and
we'll catch you again next week. Hey Glam, wake up

(01:41:05):
this shold on? Oh yeah, kick it.

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