BONUS: WWE Money in the Bank 2025 Roundtable on Fox Sports The Gambler

Nick Piccone, Vaughn Johnson, Mark Henry Jr., and Roy Burton discuss the 4-match Money in the Bank 2025 card, and discuss whether the concept of the Money in the Bank briefcase has run its course.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Get his money incause you know, I'm gone.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
The days are getting longer, the weather is getting warmer,
and you know what that means. Yes, it's summertime, but
it's also money in the Bank time. This is the
Wrestling round Table here on Fox Sports The Gambler. I
am your host, Nick Pocone, and you can follow me
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follow me on Blue Sky at pocone and Threads at pocone.

(00:48):
Nick from my Philly sports and wrestling content. I am
joined by my Straight Shooters podcast co host Vaughn Johnson
from Inquirer dot com. How are we doing today, long.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
I'm doing well, doing really well. Ready to talk about
money in the Bank coming up this weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yeah, I think that's why we're all here. Which, yeah,
it gets the name Money in the Bank round Table, but.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
I'll stayed the obvious.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
I'm good for that.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
We do.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
I'm not technically wrong about it.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Listen, you're a straight shooter as well.

Speaker 4 (01:18):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
I tell the truth, basically what it is. We're also
joined by hosts of the Tough Cover radio show every
Saturday right here on Fox Sports The Gambler from eleven
to one, Mark Henry Junior, Mark, are you money in
the banked up?

Speaker 5 (01:34):
I'm definitely money in the banked up as I have,
you know, my favorite television program, AW Dynamite on my
TV here as you guys know. But I am definitely
ready for some briefcase talk.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
And you got Maxley in the ring, so that's a
lot of briefcase talk right there too.

Speaker 5 (01:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
The one thing that I I'm pretty sure the money
in the bank briefcase will not having it is a
title belt for almost a year.

Speaker 6 (02:07):
Although you know Jericho's lost that belt before you know,
you never know where that.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Aw loves that Gemmick. Also rounding out the roundtable is
Roy Burton phl y Sports and Door fantasy football season
at Game Time Decision dot Net. We're not too far
away from football season as we sit here on June fourth,
twenty twenty five. How you doing, Roy, We are not.

Speaker 7 (02:33):
Too far away from from fantasy football season. I was
on earlier this week with Sean Brace going down my
top ten as we head into the draft season. But
we are in the midst of money in the bank season,
so that's why we're all here. Today.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
That's right, and we're in the midst of Money in
the Bank season where we have a World's Collide or
early Saturday before Money in the Bank. We're not going
to really get into that too much. I don't even
actually know the car off the top of my head,
but that'll be like a fun event to kind of
what the appetite for Money in the Bank. Because Money

(03:07):
in the Bank only has as of this recording, four
matches scheduled for a premium live event, which you know,
usual the usual five. You feel like five is too
little at this point with the way they you know,
you know how much commercialism they have, and how it
is about three and a half hours for just five matches,

(03:28):
and how much they put into that. But yeah, now
four matches currently scheduled. You know, maybe we'll see a
segment or to you know, either in the ring or
backstage to kind of round that out. But I'm kind
of surprised we're getting the four matches. This is also
the first time we're diving into a Money in the

(03:49):
Bank roundtable on Fox Sports the Gambler. We've done Royal Rumbles,
your WrestleMania's, we did Survivaty series for the first time
a few months ago with this the same panel, Mark
Henry Junior, Roy Burton, myself, and Vaughan Johnson. So, fellas,
I have an interesting question for you guys, because I

(04:12):
really kind of hit me last year where I saw
a lot of people on social media kind of turned
their back on the concept of money in the bank.
And I don't want to say like just the briefcase itself,
like the cash in aspect of it, but there are
some people that soured on that, but also's left quite

(04:35):
a few money in the bank castions creatively bankrupt, no
pun intention. So I'll go to you, Vonne. Do you
still get excited for money in the bank? Do you
still get excited for potential castions? Do you kind of
care how it comes about? You know? Says Tiffany Stratton,

(04:56):
the way Tiffany Stratton did it just a few months ago.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
Yeah, I think I used to.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
And to think the reason why because it's under you know,
mispac Man's booking, and it kind of fit his creative style,
which was spot spontaneous, sometimes nonsensical, and money in the
bank can be that right, just cashing at any time
twenty four hour, not twenty four hours there. That's a
hardcore championship. But at anytime this could happen and all
of a sudden, this person that was losing or not

(05:23):
really any in any position before winning money in the bank,
all of a sudden can be world champion.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
And I think it.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
I used to get excited for that, but now when
I think about, you know, the long term storytelling of WWE,
it kind of it is like a monkey wrench in
the middle of their long term plans every year they
have to do this briefcase thing. That Also, I don't
know if it lends people a ton of credibility neither,
because generally you're cashing in, you're like kind of sneakily

(05:52):
do it. You kind of like like the branding of
the show says, you're kind of like a thief in
the night, you're stealing the title that that doesn't necessarily
get help people, I don't think in the long run.
So I think I don't know if it's worn out
as welcome, but I think people coming.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
Around to the fact that, like, man, this isn't.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
Great for like the long term storytelling of WW and
this Reven reports that Triple As isn't a fan of it.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
Neither.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
Now we don't know if that's true or not, because
they're still doing it. If he wasn't a fan of it,
I feel like he would just get rid of it.
But I could see how that could be the case,
because again, it's hard to plan out in the future.

Speaker 4 (06:25):
We have this briefcase thing. I guess you can plan
for the briefcase thing that you can plan.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
Around that, but it does kind of I feel like,
at least it would for me be like, I gotta
do this thing now, like this whole weird briefcase thing,
instead of having somebody just beat somebody for the title
and book a story long term. But yeah, I kind
of get why people are kind of like souring on
it a little bit. But it's still a fun match

(06:51):
at least every year, and it's still fun to talk about.
As far as he could be a potential next world champion,
when you're potentially putting someone new in that position, this
could be used as a good vehicle for that. But again,
it's doesn't always give them credibility because they're not necessarily
beating someone with a title straight up. They're usually sneaking
up when somebody wouldn't have already been beaten.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
I'll tell you what doesn't get old is that pop
when that almost cashing happens, Like every time that music
hits of whoever's the money in the bank holder? Uh?
And they run out with a briefcase and with a
referee like you get a pop no matter what.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
So that still works.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah, Mark, are you a fan of the way at least? Uh,
the way the crowd reacts seemingly it seems like the
live crowds are still into it.

Speaker 5 (07:38):
Yeah, I'm extremely passionate about this. Like, I think it's
not an issue of the concept. I think the concept
is one of the you know, I think you could
argue it's the best concept they've come up with since
the Royal Rumble. Like, I really do think that it
has leveled up, especially in our my childhood. I should
say it really did level up so many guys. I

(08:00):
mean it created Edge. Edge became what he is I
think in large part due to that moment of winning
the briefcase and then holding it and giving him credibility
for nine months and then going and cashing in and
becoming a main event or obviously cemented punk as a
real guy when he won twice to be a double

(08:21):
money in the bank guy Rob van Dam.

Speaker 6 (08:23):
Briefly before he had a run in with the police.

Speaker 5 (08:26):
Daniel Bryan had his run start with that, really and
I think to Vaughan's point about the credibility, it's why
it should go to a heel most likely, like it
should almost always probably go to a heel that doesn't
need to, you know, be the tough guy champion who
beat everybody for the bell. It's okay if a heel

(08:46):
kind of sneaks in and wins the bell like Seth did,
and it should be viewed as a I think, like
the long term storytelling point. If they're so obsessed with
long term storytelling, just incorporated into the long term storytelling.
Have someone win who you want to tell a long
term story with. And if it's a babyface, have them
called out the champion like an idiot in a straight

(09:08):
up one on one match, and you know, you can
have the sting moment where he gets screwed by someone
and gets betrayed, or you can have them, you know,
overcome it and that's how you actually do give him
money in the bank.

Speaker 6 (09:18):
Briefcase winter credibility. But I think we'd like the dolfh
Ziggler moment.

Speaker 5 (09:23):
That's one of my favorite moments in the last ten
to fifteen years, obviously the Seth moment at Mania, even
Dean Ambrose winning it and cashing in the same night. Like,
I think there's been countless amazing moments from this thing,
and just because they've decided to screw around and make
it weird the last couple of years, and to Triple

(09:44):
H is the point that Triple H isn't high on it.
He doesn't understand it clearly. I don't think he's booked
it well one time in his time in the and
we could. I think we're probably gonna debate Triple ashou
Is booking as of late as a whole throughout the podcast.
But I think specifically over the last couple of years,
the number one criticism I'd have is how he's handled

(10:05):
money in the bank. I think he had a chance
in that La Knight era to really solidify La Knight
as a top guy, and I think he's kind of
been stuck in the middle since then. Instead, they went
with Damian Priest, who I've talked about it on this show.
I think was the wrong choice to try to make
a main eventor you had Austin theory that was a
Vince guy, but that obviously didn't work out, and then

(10:27):
once Triple H took over, he didn't even pay it
any mind. And then last year you don't even have
You have Drew McIntyre win it and not even cash
it in. I struggle to think one time Triple H
has handled it well, whereas you know Vince, for all
his flaws in and out of the ring, it did
seem to be able to create stars off of this.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
Yeah, to your point, I think if you have a
babyface win, I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing
to like call their shot, be like on cash like
Rob van Dam did it literally leave the second match
they had, like when he won at WrestleMania the second year,
he's like, I'm casting it in a one night stand,
Like that's a that's a crutch that can be useful

(11:10):
for a babyface, especially an up and cover one like
at mid Carter where they can get that main event
spot or on a premium live event, or even just
it's a main event of raw or I know that
might you know, rub people the wrong way with like
why wouldn't you cash it if you call your shot,
make it a premium live event or whatever. But I
mean they have plenty of TV to work with. Roy

(11:31):
are you a money in the bank Truther?

Speaker 7 (11:34):
And I kind of agree with everybody sentiment, like I
like the concept. I'm a fan of the concept. You know,
some of the execution hasn't been great, but I mean
it's a really good like nothing for nothing, Like it's
really like the greatest get out of jail free card
they have, right, Like, you know, if you book your
if you book yourself into like a bad corner, you know,
just bad booking, Like this is a way to get
yourself out of bad booking, like nothing for nothing. So

(11:56):
if you have a bad run where you know you
have a champion that just isn't getting over with the fans,
I think this is a good way to get the
you know, get the belt off of the you know
that person and put it on someone else. But yeah,
you know, like Mark said, like I think there's a
kind of a special a certain way you should probably
book these matches. I'd probably have the heel go over
most of the time because I think the money in

(12:16):
the bank contract is a heelish thing. But I think,
you know, I think if a face wins it, then
you just book it differently, right like like we just
talked about like if face you if a face wins,
baby face wins, they call their shots, say say you know, hey,
you know I want to shot at wrestle any or
make this a three way or whatever whatever, whereas you
have to heal, you know, they run down a ring
and they get the big pop. I would probably book
it that way because I just don't. I want, I

(12:36):
want to have some kind of mystery going into these matches,
whether you know a babyface or a heel is going
to win. But I think you just book it differently
when when they when you have the winner of it,
and then you go from there. But yeah, well I
will talk more specifically about the booking and some of
the things that could have been done better because I
agree with Mark one hundred percent, like these last few

(12:56):
years of this money in the bank, like briefcase, like
I don't, I can't, I don't know any maybe outside
of Tiffany Stratton, I can't think of anybody who's used
it right well use it, who's booked it the way
I probably would.

Speaker 6 (13:08):
Have booked it.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah, I think I agree with all of you, i'd
like I still like the concept. I think it's something
that excites the audience even at home, and obviously the
live crowd is always into it. But I do think
those moments are are a reminder of why we love wrestling,
Like like, oh man, like this, we automat we automatically

(13:33):
throw in whenever we like predict certain matches like premium
live events, where like if someone has the money in
the bank and they haven't cashed it in yet, we
could just be like or they cash it, you know,
in the main event, and they win, they walk away
with it and they're not even involved. You know, there's
still that it's a crunch, but I think it's a
crutch that makes sense. Like again to your point of roy,

(13:56):
it backs you out of a corner if you book
yourself in a corner. But also it could tell it
could play into the long term story. It could also
if a babyface wins it, it's could obviously be at
avenue to a heel turn, you know down the road.
I believe Cempunk did it with Jeff Hardy, right, he
had catch it in when Jeff Hardy won it, right?
Or am I making that up? Back in like two

(14:20):
thousand and nine.

Speaker 6 (14:21):
Yeah he did.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Yeah, so I I remember not thinking that was a possibility,
and it's like, oh man, and they're they're doing all
these different things creatively the first few years that they
had it, and now it's just kind of like they
have to do it more now. Now would anyone be
opposed to something to where we alternate every year a
men's money in the bank and then the next year

(14:44):
of women's Should there be one to focus on instead
of two every year? Is that possibly why people are
kind of getting burned out on it. I'll just throw
it out there if anyone wants to.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
I don't think that's the case. I think they I think,
like you said, the execution could be better. I don't.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
I'm one of the people that don't feel like they
wasted it last year. I know, like a lot of
people thought that, like it was wasted because Drew McIntyre
won and lost in it right away, But it was
a means and then to get this punk match.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Right more heat, So I've usual I think people were
mad at that because they were like, oh, the money
in the bank, it was all the uses of avenue
for McIntyre punk and I but again like people were
into McIntyre punk many big deal.

Speaker 5 (15:26):
That's honestly a fair argument.

Speaker 6 (15:28):
I would say that.

Speaker 5 (15:30):
I would say that that's a much better use than
the previous like five like pre theory Biggie mis otis,
Like I think the way they got a McIntyre, I would.

Speaker 4 (15:42):
Argue against the big ee selection. I thought Biggie was
pron for a big spot and he got her.

Speaker 6 (15:46):
I love Biggie.

Speaker 5 (15:47):
I wish you would have been champion for ten years,
big meaty men slapping meat every main event, But I
didn't really love how they portrayed that money in the
bank and he stood like I remember he'd stood patiently
outside the ring for the main event of the night
that he cashed it in, and didn't he tweet the
day of like cashing in tonight like.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
Oh yeah that was rough.

Speaker 6 (16:09):
Yeah it was. It was more about the execution that
I was complaining.

Speaker 5 (16:11):
I believe me, you won't find a bigger, a bigger
New Day and Biggie.

Speaker 6 (16:16):
Fan than me.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah that I remember that night. I remember thinking like
this is weird and weird. It made me think like, okay,
Biggie's not winning, and then he did, and I was
kind of like oh okay. And I think it was
like they were still coming out of the covid Uh
era of the thunder. I think it was still at
the thunder doome, right, they were still there, but it
was like they were starting to come out of it,

(16:42):
and you know, it just it didn't land. I don't
think it landed. I think they were still trying to
figure out certain things as they were, you know, creatively
be like, Okay, we're gonna get We're gonna have crowds
again soon, so let's focus on that instead and kind
of made Biggie a little goofy. But again then you

(17:03):
have rock Lezer come in and beat them at Day one, right.

Speaker 8 (17:06):
Oh yeah, that kind of like yeah, brother, Like those
are the I think a lot of the the outcome
is what matters, you know, down the road, like after
the cash in, what becomes of does the cash in
mean something?

Speaker 2 (17:22):
And I think Edges the very first one obviously did.
I think that still to this day is probably the
most prominent one. I would think, And I don't know
if I'm just saying that, well, yeah, I mean, maybe
the prominence the wrong word, because the main event of
WrestleMania is a pretty big one. Right, But I guess

(17:44):
it was sess character. I still, personally speaking, I still
like the Edge one. I think about that one the most,
and maybe it is because it was the first one
that was done and we honestly thought I remember being like,
maybe I was too one line, I endoring that time
on the message boards, but we didn't think that was
gonna happen. Ever, it was like, Okay, this is a

(18:05):
perfect spot for Edge to cash in. It was like
October and it didn't happen, and then November it didn't happen.
December didn't happen, and then all of a sudden, like
after elimination, Chambers like, this is the perfect spot and
it didn't happen. It looked like they were gonna go
off the air and everything, and then all of a
sudden you hear Vince's music and everything. I'm like, oh
my god, it might happen. And I think it was

(18:25):
just the build up of that that has the lasting effect,
and I think it's hard to do that now on
a year to year basis, to like build that anticipation.

Speaker 5 (18:35):
I think Edges is like the most impactful, and I
think the way that they booked it was so great
in terms of it was he kept the briefcase for
so long, Yeah that people honestly, like I feel like
the casual fan kind of even forgot what it meant
and like kind of even like forgot about the cash
in And it wasn't like now where every segment that
the briefcase holder has, they're like, I have this and

(18:57):
I could be the champion any time I want, And
not that they shouldn't do that, Like I get the
story the storyline device there, but like it wasn't as
obvious because we just weren't as used to it with Edge,
so when he did it, it was like, oh, holy crap,
what does this even mean?

Speaker 6 (19:12):
Like they didn't even know how to do it at
the time.

Speaker 5 (19:13):
Vince came out and introduced it and brought him out,
which also was like an interesting wrinkle to it. But
the seth one is so relevant to me because that
was that was such a disaster going into that main
event because Brock. We all everyone thought Brock was leaving
and then he signed the day before, so everybody then thought, oh,
well they signed him because they couldn't put Roman over,

(19:34):
but then Brock was still taking time off anyway, they
had to do something, and that was like the best
example of getting them out of a corner that they
put themselves in by by having Seth kind of save them.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Yeah, that's probably the most memorable, perhaps, but I think
here on the Money with the most impactful because even
like for edges Cash it against Sena, I'm not sure
they knew what to expect from the crowd, because once
you do something for the first time, you don't know
what the reaction is going to be until you do it.

(20:07):
And I think like maybe they waited so long because
they were afraid of how you know, and then maybe
they were thinking a ways to get it off edge
or just to kind of make it go away. But
then even the crowd, like Sina was what early two
thousand and six, he was like that tween er, you know,
people were billing him at that point, and people were
loving the edge Cash and and I think they were

(20:29):
in Puerto Rico at the time or no, that was
two thousand before.

Speaker 5 (20:34):
Yeah, I actually think a lot. And I think I
texted you this because I'm in my ruthless aggression rewatch
era right now, but I texted Peconis. I think so
many of those scene of feelings started when he came
back three weeks later after that cash in and beat
Edge at the Rumble. I really do think Edge people still,

(20:57):
like they talk about it that Edge spiked with the
live sex celebration and all that stuff in the three
weeks after the briefcase got cashed in, and then they
were just like, all right, title back to Sena, we're
doing scene at Triple H.

Speaker 6 (21:11):
Sorry, Edge, like you're not on the big boys table.

Speaker 5 (21:13):
And I think that made a lot of people like, wait,
what the hell, Like what was the point of that then?

Speaker 6 (21:19):
And I think that started a lot, not that there.

Speaker 5 (21:21):
Wasn't any scene of resentment when part of the problem
was they kept putting him against like Attitude era guys,
like it was like Kurt Angle and Chris Jericho and
then Edge and then Triplations like all these guys we
have ten year relationships with, as opposed to Sina, who
was just you know, hopping on the scene in the
last couple of years. So but I do think a
lot of the issues that came were how they booked

(21:42):
after that Edge cash in.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Yeah, I think people were getting behind that Edge character,
and he didn't even sniff the title until back in
like July right when he beat when Rob Van dam
got u yeah, you know, arrested, and then he lost
both titles in the span of twenty four hours. And
so yeah, Edge didn't even sniff from that scene until
six months later. So I could definitely get why people

(22:08):
were so like, well, what the hell was the point
of that? Because I was one of them. I was
just like, oh, so Edges and nobody. Now he won
the title. He's just like that one one hit wonder
type thing. But credit to him. And again, I think
w W was backed in a corner with the ro
Van Damn issue and I know that summer, but he
made the most of it. And I think that first

(22:29):
money in the bank cashi and was was still my
most favorite, is there. I know we talked about a
few of the cashs. Does anyone have a favorite cash in?

Speaker 5 (22:40):
I already mentioned it, but Dolph. I have to shout
out Dolph the Night after Mania, and I think that's
the big I still think even with Seth and Edge,
like if we're just saying biggest pop of any cash
and ever, I think it's Dolph the Night after Mania.

Speaker 6 (22:54):
People were so ready for that.

Speaker 5 (22:55):
He was like we always have the IWC Darling of
the men. I think now it's become so much more
splintered there. There isn't that like one guy ever really anymore.
But he was like as much as anyone's ever been,
the like number one IWC Darling And I was right on.

Speaker 6 (23:14):
That with the IWC there, so I was.

Speaker 5 (23:16):
I was a huge dolphin at the time thought he was,
you know, just a different level of seller than anything
else that was in the business at the time. And
uh yeah, I obviously another guy who What happened after
he cashed in the briefcase kind of ruins that moment
a little bit in retrospect, but just the moment, what
a what a night. That was one of my favorite

(23:38):
nights and one of my favorite moments of the last
fifteen years of wrestling, honestly.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
And that was after the night after twenty nine, right, yeah, yeah,
I was at twenty nine. I was so pissed that
it didn't happen while I was there at home. I'm like,
I thought it was cool.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
But yeah, speaking of being there, I was there for
Seth Rollins's catch andres gotta go with that. That's that
was the one that was one no one saw coming.
Uh you know, even with Dolph, you kind of knew
like there was a chance people were kind of like
here for it, and then his music and people were
ready for it. With Seth, no one saw that coming,
even though there was like people probably you know, furized,

(24:17):
but it wasn't like no one knew for sure at all.

Speaker 4 (24:19):
There was no indication that they were definitely.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
Exactly right.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
Right, not for sure you might have tossed it out there,
but like they like you said, they would never do that,
but like then they did it.

Speaker 4 (24:30):
So yeah, that was that.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
That really was one of the best endings in WrestleMania history.

Speaker 7 (24:36):
So I go south, Yeah, absolutely, yeah, you know, I
gotta go with that cause I was I was kind
of a collapse fan at that point, and that was
when I was just getting back into wrestling, and so
like that to me is like, that's that's one of
the that's one of the first big moments of me
getting back into ww I remember Seth cashing in so
so for me that Seth cashing is always gonna be

(24:57):
number one.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
And I remember thinking and will that be like an edge?
Will he just lose it, you know, sooner than later?
And then not even sniffed the title again. You know,
I was kind of like worried about that, but he
made a Hall of Fame career out of it. From
that moment on, this.

Speaker 6 (25:16):
Might be unpopular.

Speaker 5 (25:16):
I liked the Shamous one. I remember, I thought the
Shameless one.

Speaker 4 (25:19):
Was really well well after you'd be after Roman reigns. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
Was thinking about that too, because then Roman beat him
in Philly to get it back one too.

Speaker 6 (25:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (25:30):
I saw Roman win the belt back, but I thought
that that was like a There was only like a
two or three month angle there with Shamous and Roman.

Speaker 6 (25:36):
He was actually kind of hot.

Speaker 5 (25:37):
And I remember, you know, I was at Rumble twenty
fifteen and watched how Roman was reacted to and then yeah,
it was a year later where they did Shamous Roman
in Philly where Roman won the belt, and I'll never
forget like the whole crowd was cheering for babyface, big
dog suffering attached Roman rains exactly. I think it was like,
I think it shows how over she was heel at

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the time.

Speaker 6 (26:01):
He wasn't like a cool heel.

Speaker 5 (26:02):
It was like, I don't want Shameless to be the
champion like he And that's it's pretty rare in the
you know, in the modern day and age.

Speaker 6 (26:10):
So that was one I really liked.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
Another one I throw out there and we can move on.
It was just for the just for the moment, like
we said, was Randy Orton cashing in on Daniel Brian
and Triple A's turning on Daniel Brian and creating the authority.
The authority wasn't any good, but like this did set
the course for like, oh, what could we get in
the future. It was very intriguing at the time, and
it was shocking, and it was like a gut punch

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because everybody's ready for Daniel Brian to be the guy
beat John Cena to win the title.

Speaker 4 (26:36):
Wow, this feels like his crowning moment. And then they
ripped it away from him and then had no intentions
on giving it back. I was just bizarre.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
But they eventually paid it off and everybody was happy.
But I think that was also a very very memorable,
memorable cashing because it's also Randy Orton turning heel too.
He wasn't a heel for a while. Yeah, so a
lot of things shifted in ww's main events scene.

Speaker 4 (27:00):
After that, particular cash in.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
On a pretty memorable Summer Slam too. Because that was
brock Lesni versus on Punk to Net Show and that
was dope.

Speaker 6 (27:06):
That's one of my favorite matters.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
I remember hating that cash. I just remember like that.
I didn't think Dan Bryant was going to be John
Cena to begin with, and that he did. I was like,
oh sweet, and then we got that and I'm like,
oh no. So I was a little balding after that one.

Speaker 5 (27:21):
But my least favorite cash in of all time del
Rio in twenty eleven with Kevin Nash at fifty five
years Oh god, yeah, interrupting punk Sina.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
Yeah, that might that might be one of the worst ones.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
That one and the Charlotte Won cashing And even though
it's not really anybody's fault, but Charlotte cashing in for
the NXT title was kind of one plane too.

Speaker 6 (27:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
Oh yeah, yeah, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (27:46):
They've had some duds, Like we talked about.

Speaker 6 (27:48):
Some bad ones, some HORBLEU. I'm in the lone wolf Pack.
I still believe in Baron Corbin.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
We're going to get him back to the Mizzedell cashing Sandow.

Speaker 4 (27:58):
He was Sandow at that point.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
I was okay, dam Vinzdaw would have been too over.
They would have been begging to put it on him.

Speaker 5 (28:06):
That was gonna be Cody until the night before and
they switched to Sandown oh Man.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Just a wild moment, wild money in the Bank history
for sure. So with all that, we're gonna take a
break here on Fox Pusted the Gambler. On the other side,
we're gonna get to the match card for Money in
the Bank twenty twenty five. We only got four folks,
so I mean we're gonna try and fill up a
half hour. I mean, well, well, we'll see what we

(28:32):
do with these four matches. There's some interesting competitors in
these Money in the Bank matches specifically, so we'll go
through that. We got a tag team match and a
women's Aren't Intercontinental title match coming at you after the break.

Speaker 5 (28:47):
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and improved Diehard.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
Radio w WD two seven three D Philadelphia Ice, Fox
Sports Radio The Gambler. Welcome back to the Money in

(29:11):
the Bank Roundtable here on Fox Sports to Gambler with
your host Nick Pacone. I am joined by Vaughan Johnson,
Mark Henry Junior, and Roy Burton as we dive into
this Money in the Bank twenty twenty five card, which
only has four matches as of this recording now transparently
we're recording this on June fourth, but doesn't seem to

(29:34):
be anything leading towards another match being added, even you know,
depending on what happens on SmackDown that's three hours. But
these four matches, I feel like those money in the
Bank matches are going to be tell lots of story
and take up lots of time. So I would be
shocked if we get another match added to this card,

(29:56):
just based on how Triple H books these premium live
event nowadays. But for the first match, I'll go to, uh,
we'll do the we'll save the money in the bank
matches for last. So the first match is the women's
Interconninadal Championship match, Lyra of Valkyria defending against Becky Lynch.

(30:16):
This is technically a last chance match, so if Becky
Lynch loses, she can no longer challenge for the title
as long as Lyra is champion. And if Lyra loses,
she's got to raise Becky Lynch's hand and acknowledge her
as a better woman. So I don't know if those
things are equal, but uh, you know those that those

(30:38):
are the stipulations for this particular match. Uh, the off
short books at Beth Home Line have Lyra of Valkyria
at plus seven hundred to retain Becky Lynch minus two thousand.
So Mark Henry Jr. What do you think is gonna happen?

Speaker 6 (31:00):
It needs to be Becky.

Speaker 5 (31:01):
I gotta be honest, Like, I don't get the Lyra
Valkyria thing, Like, I what's her?

Speaker 6 (31:08):
What's their character.

Speaker 4 (31:11):
They're trying to develop that I think right now before
our eyes.

Speaker 5 (31:15):
The character is that she's like from the same area
as Becky and she's mad at Becky for like not
being nice anymore.

Speaker 6 (31:22):
Like I don't know, Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (31:27):
I don't really get the Lirau in an era where
I think there's a women's roster that is more stacked
than ever, Like I think we're gonna get to the
women's ladder match, Like I love pretty much every wrestler
in that match and some of the wrestlers that lost
qualifiers for those matches, And I just think we're at
a in a spot with the women's roster where we
have like fifteen to twenty women who I think are

(31:50):
like either main eventers or could easily, like get a
believable push that would make me interested in them in
the main event. Lara Valkyria would not be on that list.
So not really looking forward to this match. Definitely hoping
Becky moves on to bigger and better things.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Personally, cold on what do you think is gonna happen?

Speaker 4 (32:07):
I think Becky Lynch also wins, but I think it's
a means to help.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
Lara Valkyria get over. I think this is what they're doing.
I think this is Becky Lynch looking out for younger talent.
So I think Becky Lynch does win because I think
the ICY title needs that credibility.

Speaker 4 (32:23):
I really think it was honestly.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
A mistake for by WW to put the IC in
the US women's titles on like first time champions pretty
much in Chelsea Green and Laara Valkyria. I think they
would have benefited from putting on veterans first and then
having somebody like Chelsea Green and Lara Valkyria beat them.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
They kind of went backwards.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
Uh, so it's okay, we can still get back on track, right,
So have Becky Lynch win now and then have Larra
Valkeria fight our way back to beat Becky Lynch and
cement herself as a person to watch in the women's division.
Moving forward with the Icy title now two times Icy champion.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Roy who wins Lyra Valkyria or Becky Lynch?

Speaker 7 (33:03):
Yeah, I think I think it's probably a Becky spot.
It's just like I just wish they did more, Like
you said, Nick, I think they just kind of had
more stakes on this, or at least I don't know,
put it in the cage, you know, make it a
strap match or something like, just give me a little bit,
something like we just saw them fight at Backlash, right
like it's now if you know someone loses, then you
have to raise the other person's hand, or just just

(33:24):
just not enough in it for me, you know, to
to to make me care about this rematch that much.
So I could go either way, but I think I
think the storyline is going to be I think the
better story is probably Becky Becky gett entitled.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Back I think everybody expected Becky to win that Backlash
as well, like I certainly did. I was surprised that
she lost. So I do think they're going to uh
try and course correct there and have Becky win here.
I'm excited though, to see like how how it happens. Again,

(33:57):
I think Lyra only benefits from this particular feud, and
I think having her lose won't Tebecky Lynch of all
people's not going to exactly damage her. And to VAL's point,
like why not have those US Women's Championships and the
Intercontinental Championships on a veteran like AUW gave it to

(34:17):
Chris Jericho when everybody thought hag Mpage was gonna win
that first match, So I don't think I remember it
was like, you know, I hated it at the time,
but you know, when you're talking about mid card women's titles,
I think they would have benefited tremendously from being a
long established talent instead of and having you know, youngsters

(34:38):
come in and beat them for those titles. I thought
that would have helped.

Speaker 7 (34:42):
But like like like Mercedes Money has had the TBS
belt for like ever, you know, like like like I
think I would think that would make sense to have
some younger talent come in and you know, beat her
for the TBS belt because again, you give that belt
a little bit more credibility. So same thing with this.

Speaker 5 (34:56):
They also didn't need to introduce introduce two of them
at the same time, Like if they were going to
do the mid card women's belts, maybe stretch it out
or do one and make it a big deal and
then bring the other one in eventually, but bringing both
of them in at the same time kind of I
don't know, maybe that's maybe that's wrong thinking, but I
agree with I think I was a smart point by
you guys in terms of giving a credibility. I feel

(35:18):
like they're like dying for Bailey to do something. I
feel like Bailey would take pride in like the Intercontinental
Belt or the US Belt and trying to make it
like a real belt in the way that we, like
you mentioned with the TVs Belt, and we've seen on
a w before, like when Cody had the TNT title
and I was trying to make young guys like Sammy
Gavar and stuff like that. So I I do think

(35:40):
that they could go a long way to kind of
fix what they've done with these mid card women's belts.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Speaking of Cody Rhodes, he's in our next match. This
might be a main event, I don't know if I
don't know if.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
John an event and he's got main event favorite, so.

Speaker 6 (36:10):
His career.

Speaker 7 (36:11):
John Yes, yes, you know, I just want to say
thank you to uh Travis Scott for flaking out on
his plans to be a wrestler, because apparently this was
the Travis Scott spot and Travis, if Travis Scott was
going to be in the main event of Money in

(36:32):
the Bank, I don't probably it would have been horrible. Yeah, yeah,
so kudos kudos and Travis Scott for for for you know,
not not holding up present of the bargain.

Speaker 4 (36:43):
Also, what a wild backup planning?

Speaker 6 (36:44):
Logan Paul, Right, logan Paul, like he's ready to.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
Go, Like yeah, we just plug him in there and
he's good.

Speaker 7 (36:52):
So wild, Yeah, Johnson and the man who's gonna ruin wrestling,
Let's let's tag with the guy who nobody likes slogan Paul,
and so we can you know, be the guys everybody hates.
You know, It's like it's main event Jay Uso and
and the quarter of QB one Cody Roads. It's just like,
I know, some of the stuff just feels thrown together,
man Like I just like it just seems like, all right,

(37:13):
like we need to get some kind of juice with like,
you know, give Jay Usto the Cody rub and keep
you know, John Tina busy for a couple of couple
of more weeks, you know, while you why, yes, you know,
plays out his contract. I mean I'm sure the faces
go well. I I'm not even sure. I guess the
faces go over. I just don't have no id, Like what, like,
what are the stakes in this match? Like, what's the point, Like,

(37:33):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Get it bragging? Right?

Speaker 5 (37:38):
The point is we have two main event world champions
who can't work their way out of a paper bag,
So matches that will make people happy, So let's hide
it and muck it up and where everybody hits fifteen finishers.

Speaker 7 (37:53):
Yeah, like it's just like all right, like yeah, like
this match is gonna go for forty minutes because you
have everybody hit doing their stuff and whatever. But it's like,
all right, you know Scena wins. What if Cody wrote
wild Ros and Nouso win, then what like we're gonna
get a Cody Johnson the rematch as James, I know
Sino was hinting at, you know, going against jay Us.
So I don't think the two of those guys are

(38:15):
gonna go one on one. But if they do I
guess this this is building to that.

Speaker 6 (38:19):
I don't know. I just don't.

Speaker 7 (38:20):
I just I don't see the end game with this match.
I don't know what this match leads to. That's why
I'm a little bit kind of like lukewarm on it.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
I do have an end game. Oh, I'll say that
for the end. Okay, this particular segment not segment, but
like this conversation on who do you think is gonna win?

Speaker 3 (38:38):
I was kind of going back and forth with this one,
but I'm gonna go with the baby Faces because you
got Cody Roads coming back his first match back.

Speaker 4 (38:45):
I feel like that should be a win for him.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
Even though I could see seeing in Logan Paul winning,
I don't know why. I feel like Logan Paul could
use the win, even though you know I'm not looking
for like Logan Paul and needs victories, guys, but if
they're gonna book them to be a star, you're gonna
book him to be a star. I kind of could
use a big win here and there, and I think
it can happen in the tag match as opposed to
like a one on one setting. But I will go

(39:10):
on aside more of Cody coming back in his first
match is probably gonna win because like Roy said, he's
QB one.

Speaker 4 (39:16):
You gotta keep him strong above blah all else because
he's the guy right now.

Speaker 7 (39:20):
Yeah, if if, if the Heels win, I don't know
who eats the pin.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
So that's why you can't have Jay used to lose
as the champion and Cody's gonna lose.

Speaker 4 (39:29):
So but we can pen Logan Paul.

Speaker 6 (39:33):
He's going he's going to get pinned, Like, yeah, we.

Speaker 4 (39:36):
Can pin Logan Paul.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
Also, I will say, even though this is kind of
an odd matchup, I do think Logan Paul and John
Cena will work well together. Like this, that was the
best John scene I've seen during it throughout his whole
Heel turn, to be honest with you, with when he
was with Logan Paul. So if there's nothing else I've
gotten out of this, it's like, Hey, that John scene,
that that hee old guy could be fun, but everything
else has been like so so so it is.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
That hilarious imagining Triple h telling Logan Paul, go teach
John how to be a heel. Please help your.

Speaker 4 (40:05):
Man's bro help your man.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
He's too nice, Lily said, I'm bout I can't believe
you did that.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
My guess is Cody Pintsina to set up a future
Cody Sina thing Like I guess, But yeah, I'm always
out on thrown together main event guys in a tag
team match to main event the pay per view.

Speaker 5 (40:33):
It's like Mankind and Caine against the Undertaker and stone Cold.
It fully loaded, like like HBK and Sena against Batista
and Taker? Will they co exist before Wrestlmania?

Speaker 6 (40:46):
Like I just.

Speaker 5 (40:48):
Always always always hated, It's never interesting to me. It's
a total waste of not just one world title, but
both world titles. I I think these last couple of
months by Triple H have been some of the worst
booking we've seen since Vince was fully senile and not doing,
you know, at all advisable things backstage he is. It

(41:13):
is an absolute mess right now in terms of how
they booked this paper view.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Yeah, I think, you know, I don't necessarily think we're
gonna have a roundtable for Night of Champions, but that's
coming up at the end of June and is coming up.
It's coming up, and that's gonna be in Saudi Arabia,
and I I have a feeling we're gonna get a
champion versus.

Speaker 4 (41:40):
Champion being a match in Saudi.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
I think Jay Russo is going to penn John Cena.
I don't. I don't think Sena beating Jay can lead
to that match. So I think money in the bank. Okay,
ye yeah, you're saying, yeah, not like a champions No
got you? Okay, all right, scene it will kick his ass.

(42:09):
I think Jay you'll get the win over Sena. I
know it makes sense that Paul take the pin. Perhaps
they do something with Jay saying like I beat Paul,
now I'm going to beat you and you know, challenge
what happened. But I feel like that's, you know, the
end game, as I alluded to earlier.

Speaker 4 (42:25):
I can see that. I can see that just.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
For another couple of weeks though, you know, like that's
kind of what this is going to entail, and then
it's going to be forgotten about.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
Are they going to do like the Crown Jewel Championship again,
is that they're going to happen or is that for Crown.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
Jewels Jewels in Earth later this year?

Speaker 6 (42:44):
Yeah? What happens to those what happens to those belts?

Speaker 4 (42:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (42:47):
Those massiveness belts like three times the size of every
other belt ever made.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
By the way, Cody Rose and Jay Us are minus
one ten according to the Off Short books. John's into
Logan Paul minus one thirty. Soh yeah, going a little
against the green. But you know, I like my setup
for the match for Jay and Sina. I think it
makes sense. It would make Triple H look like a genius, right,

(43:18):
Well maybe not.

Speaker 4 (43:19):
Maybe you can be the genius in our show though.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
Next we have the women's Money in the Bank ladder match,
Alexa Bliss, Roxane Perez, Rhea Ripley, Julia Naomi and Stephanie Vaquier.
Stephanie Vauquier Like a boom, big bang, boom loses, she's
on wrong boom, She's went. That's that's my uh, you know,

(43:50):
prediction right now. I think she's gonna win it. Just
I could see other others obviously having a thing. I
just I just think she's gonna win it. That that
that's how easy it is for me. Mark, What do you.

Speaker 5 (44:00):
Think in the word in the eloquent words of Booker,
T Yeah, man, that's that's how I feel about Stephanie Vecour.
I think I think before you could scrap the rocket
ship to her back. I think I think she is

(44:20):
fantastic in the ring. She's got a a charisma and
ara as the kids say about her, I I think
she is. There's a lot I wouldn't mind pretty much,
like any outcome coming out of this besides real winning.
I don't I don't understand Ria type people being in
this match. I don't think it's for Seth Rollins and

(44:41):
Ria Ripley and legitimate of venters who don't.

Speaker 6 (44:44):
Need to be leveled up.

Speaker 5 (44:45):
I'm a little more fine with it in Seth's case,
with kind of the storyline that that's going on, and
I think it could make sense and work out pretty
well with Seth. But with Ria, like I think that
would be a total waste of the briefcase. Like she
does not need the briefcase to get a title match
and to get back in the main event.

Speaker 6 (45:02):
Picture.

Speaker 5 (45:02):
Give it to Julia or Stephanie or Pop Rocks to
the main event. I love Roxanne Perez. I think she's
like the future. She's another person who's got a charisma,
and I think she's great on the MIC. I thought
her her heel turn in NXT was really really good,
and I remember when she first kind of won the
NXT title as like a kind of like a scrappy

(45:26):
little babyface and then turn heel.

Speaker 6 (45:28):
I think she's got a really good range.

Speaker 5 (45:30):
I kind of like what's going on with her and
Live and the Judgment Day and all that stuff. I'd
be fine with any of the three new NXT girls.

Speaker 6 (45:37):
Naomi.

Speaker 5 (45:38):
I'd also be fine with like a heel pushed for
her and kind of legitimizing her. Am I forgetting I
think I named five. I've never been the biggest Alexa
guy compared to a lot of people. Crowd loves her though,
so if they gave it to Alexa, I'd get it.
But I'm hoping it goes to one of the three
new girls. I'll pick, I'll pick, I'll pick Stephanie.

Speaker 4 (46:04):
I think I'm gonna go against the grand little bit.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
I think Stephanie Va Kerre is gonna be the favorite
amongst a lot of people because clearly WW likes her,
so clearly WW things highly of her that they've kind
of you know, are showed it up to the straight
to the main roster so quickly, and like Mark said,
she's got the Oregon and she's got future main event
are written all over, but I'm gonna go with Naomi.

(46:28):
I feel like Naomi's put in some really good work
with this heel character, and like we've talked about, money
in the bank as a concept is kind of a
heelish thing, especially the way they execute the cashings right,
always sneaking up behind somebody while they're already hurt, kind
of deal.

Speaker 4 (46:44):
Like a thief in the night.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
And yeah, it would just fit to me Naomi more
so than Stephanie va Kaer, even though Stephanie via Kaer
could call her shot, but they typically don't do that,
even with babyfaces. So I'm gonna roll with Naomi, even
though I could easily see steph you can care actually winning.
But I think Naomi's put in a lot of good
work lately, and I think it would be good for

(47:05):
her to get that briefcase.

Speaker 4 (47:07):
And actually, she hasn't won yet.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
She's been in probably a bunch of money in the
Bank matches by now and hasn't won yet, So I
think it'd be a good feather in Naomi's cap.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
The offshore books have Daomi at minus two eighty and
everybody else ree Ripley plus three hundred Roxan Perez plus
six fifty, Stephanie Vakier plus nine hundred, wow, Alexa Bliss
plus nine fifty, and Julia plus one thousand. So, Roy,
who do you think wins this match?

Speaker 7 (47:37):
So my origin, my original pick was going to be Naomi,
but for the sake of entertainment, you know, I will
switch gears. I thought I thought Mark was going to
make a harder case for roxanm Perez, which is why
I was going to pick Naomi. But I'll go to
Roxanne Peress. I think I think Roxham Perez. I think
that's an interesting wrinkle again you get for the briefcase,
you know, you kind of throw it a little bit more,
you know, jealousy angle with the whole Judgment Day kind

(47:59):
of thing that they have going on. I think rod
sam Perez is fantastic. I just would love to see
her as a heel cash in, you know on a
babyface champion and win the title. So again, I think
Rock sam Perez is the heel, is the winner of this,
And I just want to just kind of ducktail on
Mark's point, like I think, I think there's really like
two rules or should be two rules for this money

(48:19):
for any money in the bank match is that if
you're in the match, you have to kind of if
you have to be able to look decent with the briefcase, right,
Like you can't look weird with the briefcase, like walking
around just walking around with the briefcase, like Pented with
the briefcase just doesn't make sense, right, Like it's like
all right, yeah, pnted with the briefcase El Grande Americana
walking around with briefcase. It's like, all right, that's kind

(48:41):
of dumb.

Speaker 6 (48:41):
You gotta look decent with the briefcase.

Speaker 7 (48:43):
And number two, you can be in the match if
you could just go to Adam Pierce's office and just
ask for a title match, like Ria Ripley, Like that
doesn't make sense, Like Ria Ripley could just ask for
a title can just show up on roll, grab the
mic and ask for a title match and just get it.
So why should she why would she be in this match?
Like this is the like this is the waste of
the spot. So I think, yeah, like alexis probably yeah,

(49:07):
but I mean like they don't need to like like
Alexa plus can just say I want to fight you
know whoever for the title, and the they can just
get a title match whereas you know Julia and Stephanie
Vekaier and Roxanne they can't like you know, like that
wouldn't make sense storyline wise, so that's why they need
this spot.

Speaker 6 (49:22):
I think this spot.

Speaker 7 (49:23):
Should be for people who need, who need to get
elevated to the next level for whatever reason. So I
don't like I don't like Riha in this spot, and
I don't like Seth in this spot. But as we'll
get in the men's match, it makes sense storyline wise,
you know the way they're they're portraying that storyline. So
that's that's why I'm not a huge fan of going
with Ria here. I think I think Roxanne makes the
most sense from from both of those points. I think

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she would look good with the briefcase, and I think
storyline wise it makes sense because she's not on that
main event level yet because she just got there. But
you give her that briefcase, you put the rock doner,
and she could be a superstar.

Speaker 5 (49:55):
Roy is right, I should have made a bigger case
for for Roxanne, As I tweeted, pop rocks the main event,
I'm all about Roxanne and if I was picking who
should win, I would pick Roxanne. I feel like them
having her off on an island with the judgment day
and whatever's going on with liv means that they're gonna
feel like they don't have to give her the briefcase
because she's got something going on and they'll give it

(50:16):
to somebody else. But if I was picking, I would
definitely be going with Roxanne even over Stephanie if I
was booking it. But how is Jade Cargill not in
this match? How was not in this match? How's Kyrie
saying not in this match? Like, I feel like they
there's no reason for Alexa and Maria to be in

(50:37):
this match.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
It's insane that Kyrie Sane is not in there. I
don't I should have played the clip. I have the clip. Yeah,
I think I think the Ria Ripley inclusion is just
like building her next feud, like who's he gonna feud

(50:59):
with after this and kind of spots. So I actually, yeah,
that's actually what I thought my first thought was.

Speaker 6 (51:06):
But it kind of scares me. The triple Ah. She's like,
I don't like this concept anyway. Ria is going to
be a main evendor. I'll just put it on her, like.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
In this business, we go from the women's money in
the bank match to the men's money in the bank match.
We got Seth Rollins at minus two fifty l A
Night plus two twenty five El Grande Americano plus three
fifteen Solo Socoa plus one thousand, Penza plus twelve hundred

(51:43):
and Andrade plus four thousands. So I'll go to Vaughan first.
There's men's money in the bank ladder match. Who's getting
the briefcase?

Speaker 4 (51:55):
Man?

Speaker 3 (51:56):
This is This was a little bit tougher for me
because it really comes down to two people. It comes
down to Seth Rollins in La Knight. I think l
A Knight could use a big win here, but I
think they're gonna go with Seth so he can eventually
cash in on jay Uso, which could take you through
the summer as far as a rivalry between them two.

(52:18):
And then maybe if Seth Rollins gets past jay Uso,
he could have a man by the name of Phil
Brooks waiting for him on the other side. Because he said,
you know, plain and simple, I'm ready to be a
champion again. So I think we'll eventually get to that
and we kindle that feud. But for the short term,
Seth Rollins wins Money in the Bank for the second time.

(52:39):
I think it's the second only the second time for
Seth Rollins.

Speaker 6 (52:44):
Mark Yeah.

Speaker 5 (52:46):
I tweeted to voice my displeasure with the cast of
characters they chose to be in this match. I tweeted
out my ideal eight man money in the bank like
a month ago. The only man from my who made
it was La Knight, and La Knight wouldn't have been
the one who I like desperately wanted, Like how is
Solo cicicoa in this match and Jacob Fottu's not? How

(53:08):
is Seth Rollins in this match and bron Breaker's not?
How is Don Masterio not in this match? How is
Cross not in this match? I was was forward not
getting a push to be in this Like there's so
many people who I think would have been better than
these names. I don't understand the Solo Socoa fetish that's
going on.

Speaker 6 (53:26):
I don't get it.

Speaker 5 (53:28):
I put the guy with Jacob Fatu, have Jacob squash
him and be done with it.

Speaker 6 (53:33):
I don't get the upside with Solo.

Speaker 5 (53:35):
He pushed him as a main event heel for a
year and nobody cares about him at all. So I
don't understand how he's getting a spot here Chad Gable,
the Elgrande Americano thing. I'm done with it, beyond done
with it at this point. Andrade, as much as I
love Andrade and would love Androtte to get a push,
he's not treated seriously as a character on WW television,

(53:56):
and to like Roy said, I don't think makes a
lot of sense.

Speaker 4 (53:59):
L A.

Speaker 5 (53:59):
Knight, Like I would probably pick l. A. Knight to
do this, even though I think it should usually be
a heal. But it's absolutely gonna be Seth, Like there's
no doubt in my mind that Seth is winning.

Speaker 6 (54:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (54:11):
The the only only reason why I think Solo is
probably in this match is you know, he'll go in
the match, he'll lose, and then they'll have the conversation
with Jacob, and Jacob will.

Speaker 6 (54:19):
Be like, you know, you're supposed to bring glory.

Speaker 7 (54:21):
Back to the family, but you failed again, blah blah blah.
Now we gotta fight, Like I mean, that's the only thing,
because like you said, like there's like ten other guys
i'd put in this match other other than Solo Soca, Like,
he's not like like Penta and Androti and El Grande Americano.
They're gonna give you some crazy spots, right like they're
gonna yeah, they're gonna be some crazy stuff off the ladder.
I'm like, oh my god, Like you know, Solo's not
giving you that. So I'm not sure from a match

(54:43):
perspective what you're getting from Solo, you know, you know,
other than the storyline with Jacob. So again you can
just cross those three out. So it's really it really is.
It's well and said, it really is l A Knight
and Seth Rollins. And again, as much as I would
love for Ella A Knight to have this briefcase, as
much as it would make sense, and you know, you
can book him as you know, a star, like all
the tea leaves say Seth Rollins. So it's hard for

(55:05):
me to pick anything other than Seth Rollins. Because again,
if if Ally Knight were to win this and Seth
and weren't, I don't you know what does that mean?
I mean, I guess that weekend Seth Rollins.

Speaker 5 (55:14):
I don't.

Speaker 7 (55:14):
It doesn't make seth Ronals look good. I'll put it
like that. So you know, all this, all this, all
that you've done building up Seth Rollins being this unstoppable,
you know, new authority figure, you know, kind of goes out,
goes out the window if anybody else wins other than him.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
So yeah, I know, CM Punk's not on this card,
but he did fly across the ocean to cause Streu
McIntyre a title clash of the castle before a good point.

Speaker 7 (55:42):
Good point.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
I just it's stuck in my head that this Punk
will never let Seth Rawlands be champion again, So why
would he let him have a chance at of money
in the bank. I feel like Punk's gonna try, maybe
even sammy'sz Ay now that he's involved, just not let
Seth get that briefcase. So I'm gonna go with Dad.
I think that is like what I think is going

(56:06):
to happen. And I don't see l A. Knight as
a briecase Holdier or El Grande Americano or Panta or Andrade,
which leaves person. And I think it's going to be
very funny when Jacob Fatu just takes the briefcase from
Solo Soca. He's not even going to fight him. They're

(56:26):
not eve gonna fight. He's just going to take it
from him because they cost him a money in the
bank shot, So I think that would be more entertaining
than any of the other options.

Speaker 7 (56:37):
Honestly, can I can I interject pretty quickly because this
is one this is my this is my moderate beef
with not beef. But I think they should, like the
money in the bank briefcase should be a thing that's
kind of traded or used in matches or defend it
in like a title.

Speaker 6 (56:52):
Right, I agree, Like.

Speaker 7 (56:53):
I think, like, you know, like if Solo wins, then
Jacob should you know, be able whoever should be able
to say, hey, you know what, like I'd like to
fight you for the briefcase, Like they don't do that,
And I think that's a I think that that's something
that could be super valuable, Like you can create some
amazing storylines with that.

Speaker 5 (57:09):
RVD put it up against Shelton Benjamin for the IC
Belt at a pay per view all the way back
when RVD was holding it. I can't remember a lot
of other instances where it's I know, like I think, yeah, yeah,
but that was like mister Kennedy was hurt. By the way,
do you guys know the story about that.

Speaker 6 (57:31):
That?

Speaker 5 (57:31):
Have you guys ever heard the full story from mister
Kennedy about that incident.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
I have I think I did, Yeah, I may have
refreshed my memory.

Speaker 5 (57:41):
He got an X ray on what I think it
was a tri sep or something like that, and they
the first doctor that he went to was like, oh, man,
it's a bad tear. You're gonna be out for twelve
to fifteen months, Like you're you're gonna have to get
surgery and all that stuff. And then he went to
James Andrews and they made him job the next day,
like he got that information, and then like the next

(58:03):
morning he was told like, Undertaker's hurt, we have to
get this briefcase on Edge. So we're gonna have you
go out there and not take any bad bumps and
you're gonna lose the briefcase to Edge. Then he went
to get surgery the next day like it would all
happen in the span of forty eight hours. Went to
James Andrews and he was like, Oh, it's a stinger.
It's like you're fine, jeez. So literally, mister Kennedy's career

(58:25):
derailed because of like a misdiagnosis of a torn try soup.

Speaker 3 (58:30):
Jeez.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
Well, was that before or after he got heat for
h R. Yeah, that's right, because that was two thousand
and eight, right, yeah, then it.

Speaker 5 (58:41):
Was Also it was also before he did a full
on media tour after the ben Wa murders about how
there was not a steroid problem in wrestling, and then
got in trouble three weeks later for a steroid like
shipment coming to his house.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
All I have to say, I like that idea of
like defending it. I don't think they do that enough.
I think again, it does make the person holding it
look silly if he does defend it. But that's why
you make a clause be like it can be defended.
If you say you lose a match to somebody, they
can become like a title match, like you get a

(59:19):
title opportunity. If in a non title match, if you
beat the champion, why not you know, if the money
in the bank holder gets pinned in even one on
one match or a multi person match, then they have
to put the briefcase against whoever pinned them or whoever
beat them. I mean, like it could make for some
good matches, good good stories like I mean, that's a

(59:41):
wrestling storyline people can follow, you know, and kind of
like give some juice to some matches that are not
just random TV matches anymore. Oh, they it has stakes.
You know. The biggest thing in wrestling is like why
am I watching this match? Like what are the stakes?
And there's not enough of that, I guess today because

(01:00:03):
there's so much wrestling on TV and it's just it's
hard to have stakes in every single match, all right,
anyone any other comments or uh, you know, thoughts about
money in the bank twenty twenty five before we wrap up.

Speaker 4 (01:00:22):
Man, that's it, Man, I forgot the four matches. Damn well.

Speaker 3 (01:00:30):
I feel like WW is treating these pos more like
in your houses now as far as like the ones
that aren't the Big Four. So that's why I'm not
totally surprised that the length of the matches as far
as the number of matches, you know, the number of
the matches to quantity, I should say, uh.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
And I'm not.

Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
Surprised by the fact that they throw together mishmash tag
team matches on them too for main inventors, because that's
pretty much what they would do in your house is
back in the day. So but yeah, I'm here for
Saturday after Saturday show. That's always good for me. So
looking forward to it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
All right. We got light of champions coming up at
the end of June. Don't know if we're gonna be
doing a roundtable for that, but this is the money
in the background table. So Roy Burton, you want to
take us out with some plugs.

Speaker 7 (01:01:22):
Sure, if you can follow me on Twitter at the
BS line. You can catch me on Fox Sports a gamber.
I'll probably be doing weekly hits with Sean Brace on
the Daily Ticket kind of leading up to the football
season because it is fantasy football season. So if you
want to get your your draft lists ready to go
for your mock drafts, you know, tune into the Daily
Ticket every week and you'll catch me with Sean Brace
breaking down all things fantasy.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
Mark.

Speaker 5 (01:01:46):
You can follow me at Mark Henry Junior NFL. By
the way, Roy, I feel like these fantasy sites and
experts are moving slower this year than normal, Like early June,
I feel like there's less rankings and mock drafts out
there for me to read. I feel like right now
is usually the time I kick in the high gear
for fantasy, and like people are lagging a bit behind.

Speaker 6 (01:02:05):
So I'm happy.

Speaker 5 (01:02:08):
And ahead of the game as always, so I'm pumped
for football season, you can't wait on.

Speaker 4 (01:02:18):
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I don't need the middle initial on Blue Scott because
I got my handle. I got my actual name, just
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I'm sure you run down all the handles for that
because I can't remember them off the top of my head.
But you can find me on Instagram, Instagram at Vaughan

(01:02:41):
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