March 13, 2025 • 57 mins
313 ROBOTS!
Kathleen Kennedy is stepping down from Lucasfilm, and Severance costs $20 million per episode! And robots!
Also discussed: We Beat the Dream Team, Yellowjackets, Pan's Labyrinth.
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Yeah, I'm always like, what is the least amount of
effort I could possibly put intohaving food in my body? Oh, I'm
sorry. Did I break yourconcentration?
Somewhere between science andsuperstition.
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We have such sights to show you.
Strange eons. Welcome tostrangeeons radio. That is Eric
over there, hello and that isVanessa over there. Hello and I
am Kelly boy. Big news guys.
Kathleen Kennedy, retiringfrom lucasville. Yeah, been
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running for 15 years. Sowho's gonna? Do we know? Who's
gonna takeover? Well, that's what's so
interesting. Oh, three namesbeing bandied about. Dave
Filoni, of course, who'sbasically Lucas's right hand man
for all of this stuff. Kevinfeag, Marvel. And then the one
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that blew my mind they'retalking about possibly Jon
Favreau coming in and runningLucasfilm, and all I could think
was, holy cow, what a story thisguy has had, little indie
filmmaker with Swingers,dork and 30
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years later, possibly runningLucasfilm.
That is insane. He'sdone enough interesting things,
like with Iron Man and the stuffhe's done with properties that
needed help. And I think that'sa that's a good choice. I
mean, that would be my, my pickwould be, Oh, I'd like it to be
him, because I think he's youngand not so much of a fan boy
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that he can't look at stuff andgo maybe not. I think Dave
Filoni is way too much of a fanboy,
I think. And I think Kevin Fauciis just overwhelmed and
overworked already, like itfeels like he can't help the
things he's supposed to behelping, as it is. So, yeah,
I have a feeling. I mean,Catherine Kennedy certainly had
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been taking her lumps over someof the decisions she made with
Star Wars. And Kevin Figgy iskind of in the same yeah
spot. Yeah, the year around,long enough it's gonna happen.
Yeah, I figuredyou're gonna say James Gunn.
Everything to James Gunn. He canbe the Elon Musk of the
entertainmentworld. I don't just want it all
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burned down. I justthought it was pretty big news.
Kevin Kennedy, been around for along fucking time. I mean, 15
years running Lucasfilm, andthen 30 years before that, being
involved in everything, yeah,Indiana Jones and Indian in the
Cupboard and all of that stuff.
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Yeah, I think I'm just stillcaught up in the news that
Michelle Trachtenberg died, andI was like, wait, what? And I
know Gene Hackman died, but hewas old. He was 95 but I saw
Trachtenberg. I was like, wait aminute, you're the kid sister
and Buffy. What? How did youdie? Wait a minute, very weird.
Yeah, well, they say it comes inthrees, and so then it was Gene
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I mean, that's only notablebecause it's a confusing
situation that we're stilltrying to figure out what
happened. What happened there?
It would be okay if, if he hadjust fallen and died, because
he's 95 but then to have thewife also be dead and the dog?
Yeah,I hadn't heard about that dog in
the closet or something likethat. Yeah.
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Yeah, so weird, very strange,huh? Carbon monoxide is what I'm
hoping, and not somethingsuicides. She only
came and took them three.
Sorry, this is the only group,the only ones who did good. But
then David Johansen, BusterPoindexter, he'd been very sick
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for a while, and Oh, wow. And hepassed away, singer of The New
York Dolls. Yeah, no, nothing.
Sorry. Sounds vaguely. Hewas the taxi ghost in Scrooged.
Oh, okay, yeah, there'ssomething at least, found a
found a place. Wow. Look,I'm not great with every piece
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of knowledge. You know, some gotto slip through.
Joseph wama, he passed him whenI one of my favorite writers for
gritty cop stories. I. Okay, soI had done four, just in case.
David Johansen was a bit wasn'ta big enough name, and wombo is
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not a big enough name, theycombined to be the third,
gotcha. Also, 60,000 people wedon't know also died yesterday.
So true. I was like,my first thought was like, was
there an earthquake? And thenit's like, Oh, you mean, like,
just interesting, okay,man. I mean, I haven't been
watching the newsthis. You know what? This is a
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great way to go through life,but not pay attention to the
fear mongering. I can't Yeah,speaking of horrible things, I
did a complete re watch of theseries Hannibal, which is on,
gosh, I've been very slowlywatching it. How did it treat
you? Ifucking am back to thinking it's
the greatest television showever made. My
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only hesitation still with thatis you haven't watched like two
or three of people consider thegreatest
getting a little bit of joy. Ithink it's awesome. It's
the best one for you. And Ithink that's great.
It is the best one.
I just really upset again,because the last four episodes
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of the final season is aadaptation of the book Red
Dragon, and it's so much betterthan man hunter or Red Dragon
was just like, god damn it, youguys, because the fourth season
was then supposed to be silenceof lambs, and it got canceled.
And like, mother fucker thisshows I'm
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so good, so amazed that that didnot. I mean, maybe a few years
later would have happened, butit didn't get, like, picked up
by Netflix, or Netflix, orsomebody didn't come in and go,
we're going to do, at least dothis Silence of the Lambs, yeah,
season, yeah. Or even, I'll takea remake of the film with with
Hugh dancy and Mads Mickelson.
That would be cool. Actually, Iwouldn't have been you dancing,
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because by that time, will isout of the story. And we have
the young female agent whosename I can't remember, Star Lord
Clarice, but yeah, that's onshutter, and it's great. I mean,
it's just amazing to watch itwithout commercial breaks and
all that stuff. Nice. Hannibal,nice.
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Wow. Well, gotta keep I keepforgetting that I started
watching that, and I need to getback into it. But it's so dark,
it's really hard in modern timesto sit down and watch.
It is really dark, and it's allabout mental illness.
100% 100%Well, I've been watching
severance, which I continue tojust love. This show. It's so
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wild and confusing and strange,and for every answer, you get
five more questions, which I'mstarting to see on the internets
people getting really mad aboutthey're like, fuckin show just
keeps being weird. Don't like itanymore. I'm like, Man, welcome
to Science Fiction.
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I embrace you with open arms.
I'm seeing in this season a lotof David Lynch DNA, sure, yeah.
And I'm I'm very confused, butI'm enjoying it, and I'm, you
know, what is your thought? Itso when they went on their
camping trip, they were somehowstill in their innies minds,
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yeah, which is in a place Iassume,
I I'm starting to think, fromthis season, that there is no
place. That's what I waswondering. Is it all in their
head? I think it's all in theirhead. I think they're just like,
going in the elevator and beinglike, you know, ending up in a
chair or something. It just itfeels like they're not actually,
because they're in the placethey're in is like liminal
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space. It just goes on forever.
It has all these floors. It's sostrange with, like, the rooms
with the goats, and I just feelmore and more like they are just
being programmed into any space,anytime, anywhere, by these
people. Yeah, and I don'tunderstand, like, of course,
like, what is project coldwater, or whatever the hell
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right it is, but I don't know. Ijust feel like this season,
we're seeing a lot more of whatthe space can do, and things
like that field trip really putinto question, right? Yeah, did
you see the most recent episodeas well with his wife? Yeah?
Yeah. I feel like there's a lotof spaces in there too that I'm
like, Okay, I don't know howyou're you know, like in this
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place, out in the middle of asnowy environment,
yeah, it's a mind fuck of ashow. Yeah, did you see that it
has dethroned Ted lasso as themost watched? Oh, wow, Apple
series, which is stealth, stillvery watched. No,
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it's true. But it gives them,you know, incentive to keep
pushing forward, because Ireally want them to keep making
this show, and I think thatthere was enough troubles that I
there's part of me that worriesthat this will just be the last
season somehow. But,well, I think the worry is
legit, because it costs $20million per episode, whoa, so
it's a $200 million season.
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Whoa, that's that's a lot ofmoney to not get back. Well,
Apple is the, what's one of thetop three most profitable
companies on planet Earth?
They're fine. They can that'spocket change. I think, I don't
think Apple at all, like AppleTV plus is at all profitable.
There's no way. Doesn't seemlike it can be. It can't. They
can't be making Martin Scorsese,like, you know, Oscar nominated
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pictures just for shits andgiggles, and throwing it on
their service, and be making anymoney on that?
Yeah? Who knows streamingrevenue is so freaking hard to
Well, yeah, they said, you know,it is the most watched show on
Apple TV. And so I looked it up,and it was like 3.6 million
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viewers. Wow. I was like, that'snot a lot. No, wow,
yeah. That means each person hasto spend how much money to make
up for the budget just of thisshow alone. Oh, wow. Each person
would have had to spend, whatfour bucks? Is that? Right?
Maybe more. Yeah,it is a great series. Like, like
always, I can't wait for everyseries I like to be canceled so
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that I no longer have to watchtelevision
at all, or they don't, you know,turn into lost or something like
that, where they just lose theirway,
come on, come back. Yeah, I feellike I need TV. I just need
because even that brain power,you're like, Man, I want all
that time back. I'm so tired atthe end of the day, I'm not
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gonna do anything interesting atthat point. I'm not gonna, like,
write the great American novelbetween 9pm and midnight.
There's just no way I canbarely, like, sit on the couch.
It like my brain's notfunctional anymore, guys, the
monkey, yeah, if we're back inthe day before, like, you know,
internet, I'd still be, or evenpower, I'd be, like, making a
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fire and, like, stoking it allnight, like I wouldn't be doing
anything. I wouldn't be doinganything cool with my time. So
it's fine to watch the TV.
That'sfair, alrighty. So I watched
another thing in the line ofavoiding serious stuff.
Documentary came out on Netflixthis year. We beat the Dream
Team. Okay, for those who don'tknow and are young enough, but
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in the early 90s, the Olympicssaid that you can use Pro people
to play your basketball. So theyput together, arguably, well,
not very, arguably, the greatestbaseball basketball team ever
assembled. If there is a famousbaseball basketball WHAT THE
FUCK basketball player you knowfrom the late 80s, early 90s,
they were on this team, and theyto to practice with them. They
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went out and assembled whatprobably would have gone to the
Olympics, the best collegeplayers, because that's who went
to the Olympics all the timesbefore this. I'm not a huge
basketball guy since the Sonicsgot butt fucked by the NBA. I
haven't watched a lot of it, butthese guys start coming out that
are playing them, going, Holyshit. These are all NBA level
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players, some of what, at leastone of them, is an NBA Hall of
Famer now, and they, everybodyon this college team went on to
play in the NBA at a high level,but the first skirmish ever
played between them and the NBA,they beat them. They beat the
Dream Team. And from the look ofit, they beat legitimately, and
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it was, there's a littlecontroversy and stuff saying,
Well, this is one of thegreatest NBA coaches did. He
kind of set them up to lose sothey wouldn't get overconfident.
Who knows, but, and there's onetape in existence of this game,
one guy had a camera whovideotaped the whole thing, and
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that's what they used to showand like, it's like, when all
the press came in afterwards,they'd erased the scores off the
board. Everything was gone,indicating that they had lost.
Wow, nobody talked about thatthey had lost. It was really,
really interesting. And granthills, one of the main guys in
it, and his presentation, andthe way these guys talk, and
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watching them talk about beatingJordan and Magic Johnson and
Larry Bird and all these legendswas really cool. And then, of
course, if you've watched LarryBird or magic Johnson's, um, no,
it's Michael Jordan'sdocumentary, you know what he
did the next day when he getspissed off, if somebody annoys
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him, he came out and destroyedthem. But it was really fun and
just a entertaining way to watcha interesting story about
sports, because. At the time, asyou remember, maybe just a
little too young for you. Butthis was a massive story. The
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Dream Team was huge. Yeah,McDonald's cups and all that
shit were being made about themand so. But I never heard this
before. Yeah,that's super interesting. It's
called, we beat the Dream Team,and it's on where Netflix,
Netflix, yeah, might be watchingMax, Max. Oh, Max. Okay, that
makes sense. Max has all of thebasketball documentaries.
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Basketball is a sport I hate,and I'm fascinated by all the
documentaries. Yeah, smell likethat was a TV show the Lakers
winning time. Yeah, that wasfun. And then that made me watch
the Magic Johnson and Larry Birddocumentary and all of this, I
was, I'm super interested in thepeople not in the game at
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all to get burned by anybodywho's currently a lover of the
NBA. There's rumors how theSonics are coming back. It
probably will happen the nextfew years. So I started watching
some NBA games going Well, it'dbe nice to have the Sonics back,
I guess. And then watching theseguys play, like, now, that's the
NBA. I remember, because the NBAnow is basically three, three
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point shots, running up anddown, no defense. It's just kind
of boring. But watching theseguys play, and they're running
into each other and knockingeach other around and go, Yeah,
I can watch that. Nice, verycool. Okay, well, um, the third
season of yellow jackets hasstarted. Oh, yeah, it has. I
have not seen it. You haven'tseen it. So there are three or
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four episodes in by now. And Igotta say, I don't know if I
like itreally. Yeah, this is what we
were just talking about. Man,I'm losing
interest in it because they'renot explaining anything. And
after a while, you know, you'relike, I want to know something.
So the characters are still veryinteresting. The acting is
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great, but this one just doesn'thave that magic that the first
two seasonshad. Yeah, that's, yeah, that's
too bad I didn't even finish thesecond season, and I need to do
that. But it's, it's tough. Ifeel like those shows, it's that
lost phenomena. It's like, theyjust keep making it, making it,
making it. It's like, all right,each episode should have a
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purpose and be impactful and befurthering the story in a way
that's keeping you interested bythe very least. Remember
when the first season came outand everyone was talking about
and the creators basically said,We pitched them a five year
story, and, you know, theybasically said, yes, we want it
all. I'm like, okay, so I assumeyou guys know where this is
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going and how it's going to end,but it feels a little lost right
now. So not lost as in theseries, but my story has kind of
lost its way.
So I don't know, Eric, have youwatched any of it? No, not,
not the new one now. But I mean,I watched the first season. I
don't think I watched too muchof the second season.
Okay, so, yeah, okay. Well,Yellow Jackets is on Showtime if
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you want a free subscription andthen to cancel, I'm sure, just
do it in a couple more weeks.
It also bundles at a pretty goodrate with Paramount plus what
that amount is. But yeah, itseems this is really a good
price.
It's a streamer that I watchvery little on. In fact, I
think, yeah, I think YellowJackets is about the only thing
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I watch on it. Yeah,that's why I think I canceled my
MGM because it was literallyjust from right, like, all
right, I'm done. I'm done here.
All right, you guys got my moneyand bye.
I'll pay for another month. Ifyou do another season. Wait till
it's all out. Got a month watchit all cancel again.
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Well, I've got a friend who wasreally, really not into horror
at all, and she avoided it likethe plague. She won't do any of
the haunted houses likeHalloween wigs are out unless
it's like, Disney oriented. Andshe has taken a deep dive into
the world of horror in the lastyear. So so every Thursday we've
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started watching various horrorfilms with her husband, and she
chose this week to watch Pan'sLabyrinth, which I have not seen
in a long time. I'm not evensure if I've seen it. I must
have seen it all the way throughat least once, but that movie is
is beautiful. It's reallydepressing, and there's a lot
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less monster time than Iremembered. I thought the guy
with like the eye hands wasgoing to be like Jones, Doug
Jones was going to be on a lotlonger. No, no indeed. But you
can see the through some of thethe main fascist character and
stuff like that, that recurringtype archetype within
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I saw that one in the theaterand still me, yeah, that's
right, I still remember that.
Knife scene just that real.
Nothing's happening suddenly.
Why? I was like, Holy shit,yeah, so that's but, yeah, I
don't, I haven't seen it sincethen.
I don't think I have either. Iremember we walked out going,
Boy, that's a downer. Yeah, yes,powerful,
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but, yeah, definitely, like, aninteresting sort of little,
little historical, you know,like, I'm always really
fascinated by these big momentsin countries that you feel like
you haven't heard much about. SoI was like, Wait, who is the
leader in like, Spain duringWorld War Two? And like, Wait,
what was going on? But, yeah,just a neat, neat little story.
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I'm glad I I'm glad I watchedit. I'm still trying to figure
out how big of a fan I am ofgamma Del Toro, because I
thought I was a big fan, and nowI'm like, I don't know. He's got
a cool style. I want him to keepdoing it. I just don't know. I
I think he's amazing. Doesamazing films. Don't always like
his movies, but I like what hedoes with them, right? If that
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makes any sense, no, totally,yeah, it makes a lot of sense.
But looking forward to hisFrankenstein. He
sure loves it. So hopefullyit'll, hopefully it'll be a huge
hit, and then he can do is inthe madness
mountains. Madness mountains,oh, it's like he's redoing John
Carpenter. Holy smokes.
That's gonna be interesting. Iwatched a okay, one decent film
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on AMC, plus excellentbut get away with Nick Frost.
Oh, and it's fun, if it wasn'tfor Nick Frost. And I guess
Aisling Bay is the place hiswife in the movie, their what
they do and their performanceselevate the hell out of a fairly
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basic film. Remind me what thisis about, a bunch of family's
vacation to a remote getawaytakes an unexpected turn when
they discover an islandinhabited by a serial killer.
Oh, okay, and it's, it's fun,it's, it's funny, it's a comedy,
funny, okay, yeah, which is partof why you know, mccross works
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so well in it, yeah, their theirperformances make it really
worth watching. The movie itselfis, is fine, and the some of the
stuff that happens is like, Oh,I am surprised. But yeah, Nick
Frost fans, a definite watch.
Okay,get away. What's that on? AMC,
plus, yeah,there are probably something
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else by now. Primer. Ikeep seeing the poster, and that
is not what I thought the moviewas based on the poster,
you can see that it's kind of,it's tough
because it sounds like a heist,yeah, just from the getaway, but
then it's getting away, right?
They're on a vacation.
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Is that two words? Then? Yeah,okay, I know I need to know
that. Why don't we take a littlebreak, guys, and then when we
come back, we're going to betalking about robots
in disguise. No,I've been thinking about getting
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a cat. When you do, you have toget a litter robot, I love it.
Litter robot, it's a smartlitter box that doesn't smell
like one, and it automaticallydoes the scooping. Litter robot,
yeah, and I don't even have tothink about it until the app
notifies me it's time to removethe waste bag. Hey little robot,
order me a pizza. Not everythingcan be as smart as little robot.
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Say hey to little robot andgoodbye to scooping the smart
appliance that helps withoutasking.
All right, we have returned. Weare talking about robots. This
was my sub genre, so I go first.
And I was actually recommendedthis movie by Vanessa. Yes, I am
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choosing from 1987 Batteries notincluded. The residents of 817,
East Eighth Street are about tolose everything they
have. What do you mean? Thosetenants are still in there
tonight, I'll have them out bytonight. Nothing
in this world can save them,nothing but a miracle.
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Steven Spielberg presents aMatthew Robbins film,
welcome to America.
Spaceships from a very. Allfine, very small. This
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is history, machines thatreproduce themselves. I like
being a family again. What thehell is that? It's Sam, the
little guys.
I don't know how you got here.
Oh, why you picked up?
Somebody's helping them,somebody's bringing them
together. Is that why you'rehere.
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Batteries not included. This wasdirected by Matthew Robbins, who
did Eric Corvette, Summer, ohshit, Dragon Slayer, oh the
legend of Billie Jean. And itwas written by him and Brad
Bird. Brad Bird wrote TheIncredibles one and two,
Ratatouille, Tomorrowland.
Matthew Robbins also wroteMimic, speaking of Del Toro,
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don't be afraid of the dark andCrimson Peak. Also, Garris is
given a writer's credit or astory credit he did, of course,
critics to hocus pocus the flytwo. If you listen to his
podcast, he claims that he isthe writer of this. So Whoa,
yeah, he only has a story crediton this is starring Hume Cronin,
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who was in Brewster's millionscocoon, 12 Angry Men. And
Jessica Tandy, his real life,wife, who is in the birds
Driving Miss Daisy fried greentomatoes. Frank McRae is in this
he was in red Don Licensed toKill and loaded weapon. And also
Elizabeth Pina, Michael Carmineand John Pankow, Eric, have you
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seen batteries on I have not,and I'm surprised I haven't
listening to that list ofcreative
well, I'll just say this. Thismovie is a fucking nightmare,
and I'm treating this suggestionfrom Vanessa as a hostile actor.
So we started in New York City'sEast Village, where several
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blocks of a rundown neighborhoodare being demolished to build a
high rise office tower andsports complex. However, in the
middle of all this rubble andconstruction and tear down, is
one four story building withseveral residents who either
can't move out because they'rebroke or won't move out because
they're old and can't imagineever living anywhere else. By
the way, the developer isoffering them money to move out
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of this shit hole, and they'relike, No, we love this crime
ridden neighborhood. On theground floor of this building is
a small diner, and it's run byan elderly couple who live in
the building, Frank and hiswife, Faye, who has Alzheimer's
or dementia, some kind ofgeneric old person disease.
Meanwhile, the developer hashired a gang of small time thugs
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to gently rough up the oldpeople, but also destroy their
diner and their apartment sothat they are forced to leave
one night, the building isvisited by two robots who are
maybe aliens never explained,and you'll not really want to
know, but in exchange forplugging into the building's
power outlets, these tinyrobots, which are quite
adorable, start fixing thedamage done to the building. At
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first, only Fay sees them, butshe's crazy, right? So no one
believes her. But pretty soon,all of the residents have seen
the robots and have come to lovethem and have zero questions
about what or why any of this ishappening. These residents
include starving artist Mason,who looks uncomfortably like a
young Mark Marin and pregnantsingle Latina Marissa and even
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retired boxer Harry noble. Sothis gang of thugs, they don't
like seeing things gettingfixed, and they don't understand
it, so they're ramping up theiractivities against the
residents, but they can't put adamper on the shared joy of the
people in the building, whyMason and Marissa are falling in
love, and the diner has neverhad more customers, especially
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with these little robots helpingout. How can two robots do all
this work? You wonder, theycan't, but that's okay, because
one of the robots is pregnant,and she gives birth to two other
little robots, which areimmediately put into slave labor
for the residents of thisbuilding. Also to make matters
even more fucking uncomfortable,the robot gave birth to a third
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baby robot, but it was stillborn. Oh so Harry, the boxer who
was a little addled from one toomany blows to the head, steals
the dead baby robot from theplanter it was buried in to his
apartment and is able to bringit back to life. Vanessa, Holy
fuck, there's so manydistressing things going on in
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this movie, and I can't imagineany kid sitting through it,
especially the first act, whichis just a bunch of elderly
people complaining about goingto an old folks home, and
especially Faye, who hasdementia and can't come to grips
with the death of her youngadult son several years back.
Fucking the nightmare.
There's also an arsonist whoshows up and has a fairly
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elaborate plan with gas fumesand balloons or something in the
basement of this building andshit like this. And I was
fucking stressed. I. Fuckinggarbage. I hated it. Never watch
this film. This is awfultagline. Five ordinary people
needed a miracle. Then onenight, Fay Reilly left the
window open.
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Trivia,originally intended to be a
story featured in the TV series,amazing stories. Steven
Spielberg liked the idea somuch, he decided to make it a
theatrical release instead. Ahorror film was going to be
titled, batteries not included,but was forced to change its
name when this film was beingwritten. That movie child's
play. Oh. In Harry Noble'sbackstory, he is a former
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professional boxer who retiredafter suffering brain damage,
became a reclusive, handy manand turned to a nine non violent
philosophy. Never explained thatin the movie, in the back story
behind the death of Bobby RileyFaye and Frank son, Frank didn't
get along so well with Bobby andwould frequently lose his temper
with the boy. Bobby fed up withFrank losing his temper and
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making him feel like he's notgood enough, bought himself a
car and planned to run away, butin a tragic, senseless moment as
Bobby, Bobby drove, drove off inhis new car, he crashed and was
killed instantly.
What the fuckVanessa, have you? Had you seen
this film before,yeah, but I was like, eight.
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Oh, I don't even know how aneight year old could keep the
attention span. I think I reallyliked the little robots. And
robots are cute. Yeah, that'sall I
was really 30 minutes into themovie, when they show up, you
have to deal with these oldpeople. And I'm like, if I was a
kid, I would first of all bebored, yeah, because I wouldn't
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understand why rent control andall. That's kind of why all this
shit is going on. But also thenI'd start being like, Jesus
Christ, this is depressing shit.
When do the robots show up?
I look in my defense, I wasplanning on watching this one
and you sounded interested. So Iwas like, All right, why don't
you check itout? I want you to watch it now.
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Maybe back to me. Maybe I will.
I don'tknow if I'll be able to handle
the stillbirth scene. Thatsounds like really rough. I
might cry a lot. Iwhen this little teleport robot
shows up, I'm like, What thefuck
his battery wasn't included.
Thisis where the line from the movie
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comes out, because Mason, theartist, when this dead robot
shows up, says, very sadly,battery is not included.
Hence the title, oh, my GodLord. Oh, no, I'm so sorry.
Quick. Start talking about yourit was worth it. Just for the
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review, though, Iwill say I seen all caps just
around my eye. It's great. Wow.
Well, I went with 1999 irongiant.
You're nine years old. You'rewatching TV,
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a perfectly good brain wasted,when all of a sudden
you go to investigate yourconclusion.
You do what any kid would do.
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You go looking for trouble,and Sure enough,
it finds you. YouThe Iron Giant.
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I don't think I've actually seenit
so also distressing, but a muchbetter film. Yes,
I watched the Signature Edition,which includes two additional
scenes and swaps out acommercial that's playing in the
background to includeTomorrowland. This was a budget
of 50 million, box office of31.7 No, if it helps, it was a
massivehit on video. Yeah, I think it
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made up for its sense, but atthe time, it was seen as a huge
failure. Writer, director BradBird, who wrote on the
Incredibles Ratatouille,batteries not included, and
Tomorrowland, directed a MissionImpossible Ghost Protocol, among
some of those others, starringVin Diesel as The Iron Giant,
who we know from Fast andFurious guardians Galaxy Triple
(34:56):
X and Riddick. Um Eli marenthalplays the voice of the little
boy who grows up to be Stifflerbrother in American Pie films.
Really didn't have much of hercareer. Harry Connick Jr plays
Dean. He was in Hope FloatsIndependence Day, Will and Grace
and lots of music, including thesoundtrack for Harry Met Sally.
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Jennifer Aniston plays the momshe was in 235, episodes of
friends as Rachel Green,Christopher McDonald, he plays
Kent Mansley. You recognize hisface because he's in 228,
things, but you're like, Hmm,but from what Thelma and Louise
happy, Gilmore Requiem for aDream among many others. And
John Mahoney plays the Generalraguard. 263 episodes as Martin
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crane and Fraser. I don't careabout the rest, because I love
that man in that show. Storyfollows in 1957 Maine, a sailor
is caught out at sea in a giantstorm. He calls for MayDay and
thinks he sees the lighthouse,but instead it is a giant robot
that has crash landed on Earth.
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His ship hits it and is tornapart, but he is placed gently
back on land. Meanwhile,Hogarth, a precocious little
boy, visits his mom, who'sworking at a local diner with
his newfound pet, a squirrel,because he likes to take things
and take them in and show them aspecial care. I wonder if
that'll come in later. Itescapes in the diner. It goes up
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the leg of a local cool artist,scrap metal shop owner slash
beat neck Dean. They overhearthe sailor and talking about his
story about the giant robot. Andof course, Hogarth, whose
imagination is very immense,goes a little wild and wants to
find the robot. That night, hismom has to work late, and
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Hogarth stays up eating snacksand watching horror films on TV.
When the power goes out, hewants to figure out what's going
on, and he discovers that thehis yard is torn asunder, which
his mom never really noticeslater, but that's okay.
Everything is fucked up. Hefollows a path that leads into
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the woods and discovers a giantmetal man who is all wound up in
the power station and is beingelectrocuted. Hogarth turns off
the power switch and saves therobot, and of course, the robot
and him then become fastfriends. Hogarth tries to teach
him about keeping out of sightand not killing everyone, also
not eating train tracks andalso, again, not killing
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everyone. He loops Dean in tohis sort of shenanigans, because
Dean has a great supply of foodfor the robot in his scrap yard.
Meanwhile, government agentsarrive along with the Kent
Mansley, who's leading theinvestigation. He's determined
to uncover what happened to thistown and send the army after the
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giant. This was a really goodfilm. It has solid writing. It's
super fun moments for eachcharacter. There's a point in
which the robot is he can becomedismantled. His hand is running
around the inside of the littlekid's house, and he's trying to
prevent his mom from seeing it.
And so they're sitting down todinner, and he starts saying a
very elaborate prayer, and keepssaying, like, get out of here,
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Satan. It's very, very cool. Ireally just love all of these,
these little moments that theysprinkle in there. However, I
would say that the there's somepacing issues in here. There
were some really powerful beatsthat didn't quite hit home for
me, because it felt just alittle off. I think that if this
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film was made today, I probablywould have cried like eight
times in it. I kind of almostcried once in it. But, you know,
I have, I have so much more. I'msorry the animation looks pretty
good, but it's very Don Bluth, Iwill say I love the robot. He
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looks great. He's just solikable in his animation and his
you can just see so much throughhis eyes, even though he doesn't
talk until probably abouthalfway through the film. This
originated from the book TheIron Man from 1968 by a poet,
Ted Hughes, who wrote the novelfor his children to comfort them
in the wake of their motherSylvia Plath's suicide. Ted
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Hughes died before the film'srelease, but his daughter Freda,
saw and loved it. The family'slast name is featured in the
film. The 1980 rock musicianPete Townsend chose to adapt the
book for a concert album. It wasreleased as the Iron Man, a
musical in 1989 and then in 1991Richard basley, who later became
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the film films lead animator,pitched a version of the Iron
Man to Don Bluth, who turned itdown in late 1996 while
developing a project, the studiosaw this film as a perfect
vehicle for Brad Bird, becausethey wanted to launch him, which
I think is crazy, because I'mlike, how do. Studios do this.
That's not even a thing anymore.
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At the time, he was working forTurner feature animation and
developing a film called raygun, which I'm not sure I ever
saw. The lead today in bird'soriginal version America and the
USSR were at war, and the giantdies. Tim McCann Lee's was hired
to write the script and said tohim, You can't kill et and not
bring him back. He was inspiredto make this film as a memorial
(40:25):
to his sister Susan Don Bluthwas or sorry Brad Bird was who
died at the hands of her strangehusband by gun violence. Do
you want to start another likefive minutes here?
His pitch was, what if a gun hada soul and didn't want to be a
gun. So there you go. The filmprobably failed, because it was
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not advertised, hardly at all,and it came out the same weekend
as the sixth son. So I was stillat
Suncoast when this came out, andit was huge release, so it did
quite well.
That's great. That's really goodto hear, because it was really
depressing reading about, like,all the ways it got fucked from
its adversary. Like, normallyyou do, like cups, and you'd
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have, like, a year out inadvance. You'd have, like, toys
and all this animated feature,yeah. And there was, it was
literally four months ahead. Thestudio kept, like, wavering back
and forth on when it was goingto come out. They, like, only
found out the last minute. Andthen there was, like, a poster
that got released, and that waspretty much it. So
wow, this is a kind of adorablemovie. It is.
(41:31):
It's a super adorable movie. Um,yeah, it's has some really
interesting, strong lines in it,like, they're all think, they
all think they're gonna die froma nuclear attack at one point,
and they're like, well, there'sno point in running. We're all
just gonna die.
Go to a condensed, highlypopulated area and make sure
(41:52):
we're not surviving for sevendays afterwards, exactly. All
righty,Eric, you want to go? Yes, yeah,
I'll go here five minutes also,or 10 minutes,
oh, my God, I'll do better.
Also, a fully animated film, theMitchells versus the machine.
(42:14):
You battle. Katie used to be mylittle buddy. Go on nature
hikes, skip rocks. Tell her. Areyou excited for cam? Don't make
me go. We used to be soconnected. Hey, Dad, smile. You
(42:36):
know, you can experience thingsa whole lot better without that
cam, Dad,this is how I experiencing, I
don't think,Yes, tomorrow I'm finally
leaving for college. But in themeantime, I made you guys this
goodbye video. Youknow what? This is. Our last
night together. How about wemake 10 seconds family, eye
contact starting. Put your phonedown now. No, you're allowed to
(42:56):
blink. It's just eye contact.
Oh, finally, no screens at thetable. Lynn, why are you kicking
me? I don't understand. I'm justgonna Oh, look, I'll watch it.
Dad, it's too late. Look, Iwanna watch it.
Dad, this is exactly why I'mexcited to leave tomorrow.
Katie, I know you can fix this.
(43:22):
Why do you need all that to takeme to the airport? I canceled
your plane ticket to college. Weare going to drive you to school
on a cross country road trip asa family behold and now I
present trickingRick Mitchell and kiss me die.
Dang it Katie.
Dang it Katie, dang it. Katie,Hey, Dad, can you check the
(43:42):
trunk? Yeah, sure. Dang it.
Katie, Hey, kids, there'ssupposed to be some great ice
around here. Just a set down. Wehear a pal about to drop our
biggest invention yet. Meet thehelper bot. We promise you they
will never turn evenMom, what is that? You
greetings, humans,technology rising up Sayonara,
(44:12):
robots roaming the streets. Whatis this strange creature? Dogs,
pig dog. Pig dog. Loaf of bread.
The beaches have always beenweird.
No time to wash your hands.
Don't worry, I never do.
That's what makes us great. Oh,my girl, then we just might be
weird enough to save the world.
(44:33):
All right hands infrom 2021 it's a Netflix
release, or you can run it notthe next Netflix, or directed by
Michael ryanda, who's done twoshort films, and Jeff Rowe, who
you might know from TeenageMutant Ninja Turtles, Mutant
(44:57):
Mayhem. Yeah. Is two directorson this written by Michael
ryanda, who wrote Gravity Fallsand a bunch of shorts. Jeff Rowe
who wrote Teenage Mutant NinjaTurtles, Mutant Mayhem and
Gravity Falls, and Peter Sisley,who wrote a couple TV episodes,
so not a deep well of historyfor the filmmakers in this one
(45:22):
actor, Abby Jacobson. Jacobson,who did 50 episodes of
disenchantment, 50 episodes ofBroad City, Danny McBride from
the righteous gemstones, 27episodes and going Halloween.
Halloween kills. Halloween ends,and much better vice principals.
Maya Rudolph, 167 episodes ofSNL, bridesmaids, Teenage Mutant
(45:48):
Ninja Turtles, Mutant Mayhem,plus a lot of other people like
Fred Armisen, Doug the pug.
Conan O'Brien, yeah, the dog inthis was voiced by an actual
dog. That's crazy.
The whole idea of the movie isit starts with a teenage
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daughter who's a filmmaker. Soyou know, that's nice making
movies her and her fatherdoesn't understand her at all.
He's a complete Luddite. Hebarely can use a computer. And
they are, of course, not gettingalong. She's getting ready to go
to college. Her little brotheris great. She enjoys him. They
get along really well. It's adinosaur lover.
(46:33):
The father decides they need tobond.
So in a move surely not to pissoff his teenage daughter, he
cancels her flight to cross thecountry to go to the film school
for the introduction week, whereeverybody gets to meet all the
new friends she's been makingonline, and all the people she's
looking forward to meeting, andthey're going to drive so she's
(46:55):
thrilled. The Road Trip then isup ended because a super mogul
tech guy releases an update tokind of, you know, the things we
talk to on our phones, dependingon what kind of phone you've
got, and insults the privateprior one, who then proceeds to
(47:19):
take over all of the robots thathe is releasing, and starts
collecting people around theworld in these little pods
there. I will throw out a realhuge story problem I had with
this. But in order to geteverybody upset, she disconnects
all the Wi Fi and like, how areyou communicating with all your
robots and shit? How are youdoing a worldwide thing. What do
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you destroy it all anyways? Butthe family accidentally kills
some of the road or destroyssome of the robots and figure
out a weird way of we're goingto band together and go against
this. I gotta say, this isactually a lot of fun, except
for one big problem. This is atwo hour cartoon, yeah, and it
(48:06):
would have been so good withabout half an hour shaved out of
it, because when it's good, it'sa lot of fun. But it has like
three feels like we're rampingup to the end part, parts, one
of them early enough that, youknow it's not, but the next
couple are far enough along,you're going, Oh, this isn't the
ending. So that hurts. It a lot,a whole lot of what I think
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would have been a really fun,silly animated movie about
stopping the end of the world.
But the tagline, prepare to getweird, because the world depends
on it. Okay, it was originallytitled Mitchell's versus a
machine, then changed toconnected, but Netflix bought
inside. We're going back toMitchells and the machines. I
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mentioned Monty the dog, wasoriginally going to be a voice
actor, but instead, they broughtin Doug the pug.
Actually, that dog makes a lotof moolah.
Sony animations, first Netflixexclusive film for what that's
(49:17):
worth.
She was going to get atheatrical release in 2020.
Didn'tdelayed several times, and then
finally just came to Netflixcouple years. But it's fun. It
was a fun little it sounds likeyou've seen it too. Yeah,
I thought it was really cute andtoo long, but I'm surprised. I
(49:40):
did not realize it was a NetflixOriginal.
Yeah, it doesn't look like itwas. Yeah, Sony, so you've seen
their animation plenty of times,but yeah, voice acting is fun.
The comedy works, but yeah, justlike,
Come on, let's stop this. Ithink this. This. Did well
(50:00):
enough, is there a sequel, or asequel plan or something?
I didn't see anything about it,but I wouldn't be surprised. I
mean, it's a moderatelysuccessful animated thing. Of
course, it's on Netflix, so whothe hell knows, right? If
Netflix wants to do a sequel?
Well,it sounds like both of you guys
had good movies.
Yeah, yeah. Two out of threethis time, I guess
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it's always a it's always agamble.
So to say, no, no, you doBatteries not included. I'll do
behind or something else. Ican't remember what I got on
that I that made me think Iwanted to talk about robots. I
think it was seeing our buddy,Joe Sherlock, had posted like, a
picture of a Fembot or somethingfrom his movie. And I was like,
(50:46):
I want to do something aboutrobots, and I'm gonna find
something fun and wacky likethat. Oh, boy,
fail. Well, it's not the robotsfault,
that's true. There you go, Eric.
I hate to put you on the spot,but you have the next page.
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I've got a wide ranging ideathat I'm going to expand for
your sake, but I'm thinking, Howabout movies Stephen King
related, not based necessarilyon Stephen King, because I'm
sure there's not a lot of thoseyou haven't seen, but something
like maybe talked about it indance macabre or something like
(51:27):
that, any or a Stephen Kingpresents film, which I think we
mentioned last week, sometimeswas not so great, but also
sometimes pretty damn good.
Can it be a adaptation?
Absolutely,absolutely, that was my
question, too.
So it's the other ones are justto expand a little bit, because
I have a feeling you've seen alot of Stephen King films,
(51:50):
probably allexcept for the monkey. Well,
there you go. NowI like this idea very much.
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Somehow, they're my that numberI used, I guess when I ordered
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Yeah, yes, that's it. Yeah,definitely do that. Cool. Also,
I have a book that's probablyout by the time this it is
called thorns. It's a it'sanother horror book. It's
technically a novel clocked inat over 40,000 words. So
(54:04):
excellent. What isthe requirement for novel
length?
The horror Writers Associationconsiders anything over 40,000
words a novel Gotcha. But Ithink that in other places, it's
got to be 50,000 words so andthen, if you're Stephen King,
(54:25):
it's a minimum 100,000 words.
A door stopper. Can it stop? Adoor yes or no,
right? Anyway, this is out onAmazon. It's also out where you
know, if you don't want tosupport this evil corporation.
This book is available. Youknow, you can go to your Barnes
(54:46):
and Noble and order from them.
You can go to your mom and popstore. If you want, whatever
evil corporation you like, youcan get it from.
What about your website? Is itavailable? No,
I'm not doing that shit.
Fucking. Annoying,packing it and sending it
yourself. You feellike you really need an
autographed coffee. Reach out tome and we can make something
(55:06):
happen. But otherwise,get it. Where you get it? And
find me at crypto con,Barnes and Nobles popping up all
over the place again. And Idon't know if you've been to any
of the new ones. They're reallythey're very different. They're
real interesting. They're tryingto be like a local bookstore.
They pattern their whatevertheir stock is to the area
(55:26):
they're in.
I went to one very niceyesterday with my little little
at Bellevue square. They justopened one, and it was really
cool. And she ended up almoststealing a Curious George, which
I paid for. She was veryenamored with he was a perfect
eye height, and she just snaggedhim and started eating him. So,
(55:50):
oh, there wego. Good way to get mom to buy
this for me,yep. Let me tell you, kids, you
want some shit, just lick it.
Your kid, your parents will feelvery obligated to purchase it.
You know, you you mentionedsomething about the last time
when you were sick and you'relike, I come up here and I lick
(56:10):
everything like that was a veryuncomfortable thing to say. And
now here you go again. Look, mylife has changed a lot. I
witnessed a lot of just childlooking random things, and now
it's normalized for me.
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not gonna do anythinginteresting at that point. I'm
not gonna like write the greatAmerican novel between 9pm and
midnight.
Yeah, I'm always like, what is the least amount of
effort I could possibly put intohaving food in my body? Oh, I'm
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We have such sights to show you.
Strange eons. Welcome tostrangeeons radio. That is Eric
over there, hello and that isVanessa over there. Hello and I
am Kelly boy. Big news guys.
Kathleen Kennedy, retiringfrom lucasville. Yeah, been
(00:53):
running for 15 years. Sowho's gonna? Do we know? Who's
gonna takeover? Well, that's what's so
interesting. Oh, three namesbeing bandied about. Dave
Filoni, of course, who'sbasically Lucas's right hand man
for all of this stuff. Kevinfeag, Marvel. And then the one
(01:14):
that blew my mind they'retalking about possibly Jon
Favreau coming in and runningLucasfilm, and all I could think
was, holy cow, what a story thisguy has had, little indie
filmmaker with Swingers,dork and 30
(01:39):
years later, possibly runningLucasfilm.
That is insane. He'sdone enough interesting things,
like with Iron Man and the stuffhe's done with properties that
needed help. And I think that'sa that's a good choice. I
mean, that would be my, my pickwould be, Oh, I'd like it to be
him, because I think he's youngand not so much of a fan boy
(02:05):
that he can't look at stuff andgo maybe not. I think Dave
Filoni is way too much of a fanboy,
I think. And I think Kevin Fauciis just overwhelmed and
overworked already, like itfeels like he can't help the
things he's supposed to behelping, as it is. So, yeah,
I have a feeling. I mean,Catherine Kennedy certainly had
(02:27):
been taking her lumps over someof the decisions she made with
Star Wars. And Kevin Figgy iskind of in the same yeah
spot. Yeah, the year around,long enough it's gonna happen.
Yeah, I figuredyou're gonna say James Gunn.
Everything to James Gunn. He canbe the Elon Musk of the
entertainmentworld. I don't just want it all
(02:50):
burned down. I justthought it was pretty big news.
Kevin Kennedy, been around for along fucking time. I mean, 15
years running Lucasfilm, andthen 30 years before that, being
involved in everything, yeah,Indiana Jones and Indian in the
Cupboard and all of that stuff.
(03:13):
Yeah, I think I'm just stillcaught up in the news that
Michelle Trachtenberg died, andI was like, wait, what? And I
know Gene Hackman died, but hewas old. He was 95 but I saw
Trachtenberg. I was like, wait aminute, you're the kid sister
and Buffy. What? How did youdie? Wait a minute, very weird.
Yeah, well, they say it comes inthrees, and so then it was Gene
(03:38):
I mean, that's only notablebecause it's a confusing
situation that we're stilltrying to figure out what
happened. What happened there?
It would be okay if, if he hadjust fallen and died, because
he's 95 but then to have thewife also be dead and the dog?
Yeah,I hadn't heard about that dog in
the closet or something likethat. Yeah.
(04:01):
Yeah, so weird, very strange,huh? Carbon monoxide is what I'm
hoping, and not somethingsuicides. She only
came and took them three.
Sorry, this is the only group,the only ones who did good. But
then David Johansen, BusterPoindexter, he'd been very sick
(04:24):
for a while, and Oh, wow. And hepassed away, singer of The New
York Dolls. Yeah, no, nothing.
Sorry. Sounds vaguely. Hewas the taxi ghost in Scrooged.
Oh, okay, yeah, there'ssomething at least, found a
found a place. Wow. Look,I'm not great with every piece
(04:45):
of knowledge. You know, some gotto slip through.
Joseph wama, he passed him whenI one of my favorite writers for
gritty cop stories. I. Okay, soI had done four, just in case.
David Johansen was a bit wasn'ta big enough name, and wombo is
(05:08):
not a big enough name, theycombined to be the third,
gotcha. Also, 60,000 people wedon't know also died yesterday.
So true. I was like,my first thought was like, was
there an earthquake? And thenit's like, Oh, you mean, like,
just interesting, okay,man. I mean, I haven't been
watching the newsthis. You know what? This is a
(05:30):
great way to go through life,but not pay attention to the
fear mongering. I can't Yeah,speaking of horrible things, I
did a complete re watch of theseries Hannibal, which is on,
gosh, I've been very slowlywatching it. How did it treat
you? Ifucking am back to thinking it's
the greatest television showever made. My
(05:55):
only hesitation still with thatis you haven't watched like two
or three of people consider thegreatest
getting a little bit of joy. Ithink it's awesome. It's
the best one for you. And Ithink that's great.
It is the best one.
I just really upset again,because the last four episodes
(06:16):
of the final season is aadaptation of the book Red
Dragon, and it's so much betterthan man hunter or Red Dragon
was just like, god damn it, youguys, because the fourth season
was then supposed to be silenceof lambs, and it got canceled.
And like, mother fucker thisshows I'm
(06:38):
so good, so amazed that that didnot. I mean, maybe a few years
later would have happened, butit didn't get, like, picked up
by Netflix, or Netflix, orsomebody didn't come in and go,
we're going to do, at least dothis Silence of the Lambs, yeah,
season, yeah. Or even, I'll takea remake of the film with with
Hugh dancy and Mads Mickelson.
That would be cool. Actually, Iwouldn't have been you dancing,
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because by that time, will isout of the story. And we have
the young female agent whosename I can't remember, Star Lord
Clarice, but yeah, that's onshutter, and it's great. I mean,
it's just amazing to watch itwithout commercial breaks and
all that stuff. Nice. Hannibal,nice.
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Wow. Well, gotta keep I keepforgetting that I started
watching that, and I need to getback into it. But it's so dark,
it's really hard in modern timesto sit down and watch.
It is really dark, and it's allabout mental illness.
100% 100%Well, I've been watching
severance, which I continue tojust love. This show. It's so
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wild and confusing and strange,and for every answer, you get
five more questions, which I'mstarting to see on the internets
people getting really mad aboutthey're like, fuckin show just
keeps being weird. Don't like itanymore. I'm like, Man, welcome
to Science Fiction.
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I embrace you with open arms.
I'm seeing in this season a lotof David Lynch DNA, sure, yeah.
And I'm I'm very confused, butI'm enjoying it, and I'm, you
know, what is your thought? Itso when they went on their
camping trip, they were somehowstill in their innies minds,
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yeah, which is in a place Iassume,
I I'm starting to think, fromthis season, that there is no
place. That's what I waswondering. Is it all in their
head? I think it's all in theirhead. I think they're just like,
going in the elevator and beinglike, you know, ending up in a
chair or something. It just itfeels like they're not actually,
because they're in the placethey're in is like liminal
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space. It just goes on forever.
It has all these floors. It's sostrange with, like, the rooms
with the goats, and I just feelmore and more like they are just
being programmed into any space,anytime, anywhere, by these
people. Yeah, and I don'tunderstand, like, of course,
like, what is project coldwater, or whatever the hell
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right it is, but I don't know. Ijust feel like this season,
we're seeing a lot more of whatthe space can do, and things
like that field trip really putinto question, right? Yeah, did
you see the most recent episodeas well with his wife? Yeah?
Yeah. I feel like there's a lotof spaces in there too that I'm
like, Okay, I don't know howyou're you know, like in this
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place, out in the middle of asnowy environment,
yeah, it's a mind fuck of ashow. Yeah, did you see that it
has dethroned Ted lasso as themost watched? Oh, wow, Apple
series, which is stealth, stillvery watched. No,
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it's true. But it gives them,you know, incentive to keep
pushing forward, because Ireally want them to keep making
this show, and I think thatthere was enough troubles that I
there's part of me that worriesthat this will just be the last
season somehow. But,well, I think the worry is
legit, because it costs $20million per episode, whoa, so
it's a $200 million season.
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Whoa, that's that's a lot ofmoney to not get back. Well,
Apple is the, what's one of thetop three most profitable
companies on planet Earth?
They're fine. They can that'spocket change. I think, I don't
think Apple at all, like AppleTV plus is at all profitable.
There's no way. Doesn't seemlike it can be. It can't. They
can't be making Martin Scorsese,like, you know, Oscar nominated
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pictures just for shits andgiggles, and throwing it on
their service, and be making anymoney on that?
Yeah? Who knows streamingrevenue is so freaking hard to
Well, yeah, they said, you know,it is the most watched show on
Apple TV. And so I looked it up,and it was like 3.6 million
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viewers. Wow. I was like, that'snot a lot. No, wow,
yeah. That means each person hasto spend how much money to make
up for the budget just of thisshow alone. Oh, wow. Each person
would have had to spend, whatfour bucks? Is that? Right?
Maybe more. Yeah,it is a great series. Like, like
always, I can't wait for everyseries I like to be canceled so
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that I no longer have to watchtelevision
at all, or they don't, you know,turn into lost or something like
that, where they just lose theirway,
come on, come back. Yeah, I feellike I need TV. I just need
because even that brain power,you're like, Man, I want all
that time back. I'm so tired atthe end of the day, I'm not
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gonna do anything interesting atthat point. I'm not gonna, like,
write the great American novelbetween 9pm and midnight.
There's just no way I canbarely, like, sit on the couch.
It like my brain's notfunctional anymore, guys, the
monkey, yeah, if we're back inthe day before, like, you know,
internet, I'd still be, or evenpower, I'd be, like, making a
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fire and, like, stoking it allnight, like I wouldn't be doing
anything. I wouldn't be doinganything cool with my time. So
it's fine to watch the TV.
That'sfair, alrighty. So I watched
another thing in the line ofavoiding serious stuff.
Documentary came out on Netflixthis year. We beat the Dream
Team. Okay, for those who don'tknow and are young enough, but
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in the early 90s, the Olympicssaid that you can use Pro people
to play your basketball. So theyput together, arguably, well,
not very, arguably, the greatestbaseball basketball team ever
assembled. If there is a famousbaseball basketball WHAT THE
FUCK basketball player you knowfrom the late 80s, early 90s,
they were on this team, and theyto to practice with them. They
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went out and assembled whatprobably would have gone to the
Olympics, the best collegeplayers, because that's who went
to the Olympics all the timesbefore this. I'm not a huge
basketball guy since the Sonicsgot butt fucked by the NBA. I
haven't watched a lot of it, butthese guys start coming out that
are playing them, going, Holyshit. These are all NBA level
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players, some of what, at leastone of them, is an NBA Hall of
Famer now, and they, everybodyon this college team went on to
play in the NBA at a high level,but the first skirmish ever
played between them and the NBA,they beat them. They beat the
Dream Team. And from the look ofit, they beat legitimately, and
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it was, there's a littlecontroversy and stuff saying,
Well, this is one of thegreatest NBA coaches did. He
kind of set them up to lose sothey wouldn't get overconfident.
Who knows, but, and there's onetape in existence of this game,
one guy had a camera whovideotaped the whole thing, and
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that's what they used to showand like, it's like, when all
the press came in afterwards,they'd erased the scores off the
board. Everything was gone,indicating that they had lost.
Wow, nobody talked about thatthey had lost. It was really,
really interesting. And granthills, one of the main guys in
it, and his presentation, andthe way these guys talk, and
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watching them talk about beatingJordan and Magic Johnson and
Larry Bird and all these legendswas really cool. And then, of
course, if you've watched LarryBird or magic Johnson's, um, no,
it's Michael Jordan'sdocumentary, you know what he
did the next day when he getspissed off, if somebody annoys
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him, he came out and destroyedthem. But it was really fun and
just a entertaining way to watcha interesting story about
sports, because. At the time, asyou remember, maybe just a
little too young for you. Butthis was a massive story. The
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Dream Team was huge. Yeah,McDonald's cups and all that
shit were being made about themand so. But I never heard this
before. Yeah,that's super interesting. It's
called, we beat the Dream Team,and it's on where Netflix,
Netflix, yeah, might be watchingMax, Max. Oh, Max. Okay, that
makes sense. Max has all of thebasketball documentaries.
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Basketball is a sport I hate,and I'm fascinated by all the
documentaries. Yeah, smell likethat was a TV show the Lakers
winning time. Yeah, that wasfun. And then that made me watch
the Magic Johnson and Larry Birddocumentary and all of this, I
was, I'm super interested in thepeople not in the game at
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all to get burned by anybodywho's currently a lover of the
NBA. There's rumors how theSonics are coming back. It
probably will happen the nextfew years. So I started watching
some NBA games going Well, it'dbe nice to have the Sonics back,
I guess. And then watching theseguys play, like, now, that's the
NBA. I remember, because the NBAnow is basically three, three
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point shots, running up anddown, no defense. It's just kind
of boring. But watching theseguys play, and they're running
into each other and knockingeach other around and go, Yeah,
I can watch that. Nice, verycool. Okay, well, um, the third
season of yellow jackets hasstarted. Oh, yeah, it has. I
have not seen it. You haven'tseen it. So there are three or
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four episodes in by now. And Igotta say, I don't know if I
like itreally. Yeah, this is what we
were just talking about. Man,I'm losing
interest in it because they'renot explaining anything. And
after a while, you know, you'relike, I want to know something.
So the characters are still veryinteresting. The acting is
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great, but this one just doesn'thave that magic that the first
two seasonshad. Yeah, that's, yeah, that's
too bad I didn't even finish thesecond season, and I need to do
that. But it's, it's tough. Ifeel like those shows, it's that
lost phenomena. It's like, theyjust keep making it, making it,
making it. It's like, all right,each episode should have a
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purpose and be impactful and befurthering the story in a way
that's keeping you interested bythe very least. Remember
when the first season came outand everyone was talking about
and the creators basically said,We pitched them a five year
story, and, you know, theybasically said, yes, we want it
all. I'm like, okay, so I assumeyou guys know where this is
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going and how it's going to end,but it feels a little lost right
now. So not lost as in theseries, but my story has kind of
lost its way.
So I don't know, Eric, have youwatched any of it? No, not,
not the new one now. But I mean,I watched the first season. I
don't think I watched too muchof the second season.
Okay, so, yeah, okay. Well,Yellow Jackets is on Showtime if
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you want a free subscription andthen to cancel, I'm sure, just
do it in a couple more weeks.
It also bundles at a pretty goodrate with Paramount plus what
that amount is. But yeah, itseems this is really a good
price.
It's a streamer that I watchvery little on. In fact, I
think, yeah, I think YellowJackets is about the only thing
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I watch on it. Yeah,that's why I think I canceled my
MGM because it was literallyjust from right, like, all
right, I'm done. I'm done here.
All right, you guys got my moneyand bye.
I'll pay for another month. Ifyou do another season. Wait till
it's all out. Got a month watchit all cancel again.
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Well, I've got a friend who wasreally, really not into horror
at all, and she avoided it likethe plague. She won't do any of
the haunted houses likeHalloween wigs are out unless
it's like, Disney oriented. Andshe has taken a deep dive into
the world of horror in the lastyear. So so every Thursday we've
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started watching various horrorfilms with her husband, and she
chose this week to watch Pan'sLabyrinth, which I have not seen
in a long time. I'm not evensure if I've seen it. I must
have seen it all the way throughat least once, but that movie is
is beautiful. It's reallydepressing, and there's a lot
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less monster time than Iremembered. I thought the guy
with like the eye hands wasgoing to be like Jones, Doug
Jones was going to be on a lotlonger. No, no indeed. But you
can see the through some of thethe main fascist character and
stuff like that, that recurringtype archetype within
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I saw that one in the theaterand still me, yeah, that's
right, I still remember that.
Knife scene just that real.
Nothing's happening suddenly.
Why? I was like, Holy shit,yeah, so that's but, yeah, I
don't, I haven't seen it sincethen.
I don't think I have either. Iremember we walked out going,
Boy, that's a downer. Yeah, yes,powerful,
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but, yeah, definitely, like, aninteresting sort of little,
little historical, you know,like, I'm always really
fascinated by these big momentsin countries that you feel like
you haven't heard much about. SoI was like, Wait, who is the
leader in like, Spain duringWorld War Two? And like, Wait,
what was going on? But, yeah,just a neat, neat little story.
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I'm glad I I'm glad I watchedit. I'm still trying to figure
out how big of a fan I am ofgamma Del Toro, because I
thought I was a big fan, and nowI'm like, I don't know. He's got
a cool style. I want him to keepdoing it. I just don't know. I
I think he's amazing. Doesamazing films. Don't always like
his movies, but I like what hedoes with them, right? If that
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makes any sense, no, totally,yeah, it makes a lot of sense.
But looking forward to hisFrankenstein. He
sure loves it. So hopefullyit'll, hopefully it'll be a huge
hit, and then he can do is inthe madness
mountains. Madness mountains,oh, it's like he's redoing John
Carpenter. Holy smokes.
That's gonna be interesting. Iwatched a okay, one decent film
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on AMC, plus excellentbut get away with Nick Frost.
Oh, and it's fun, if it wasn'tfor Nick Frost. And I guess
Aisling Bay is the place hiswife in the movie, their what
they do and their performanceselevate the hell out of a fairly
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basic film. Remind me what thisis about, a bunch of family's
vacation to a remote getawaytakes an unexpected turn when
they discover an islandinhabited by a serial killer.
Oh, okay, and it's, it's fun,it's, it's funny, it's a comedy,
funny, okay, yeah, which is partof why you know, mccross works
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so well in it, yeah, their theirperformances make it really
worth watching. The movie itselfis, is fine, and the some of the
stuff that happens is like, Oh,I am surprised. But yeah, Nick
Frost fans, a definite watch.
Okay,get away. What's that on? AMC,
plus, yeah,there are probably something
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else by now. Primer. Ikeep seeing the poster, and that
is not what I thought the moviewas based on the poster,
you can see that it's kind of,it's tough
because it sounds like a heist,yeah, just from the getaway, but
then it's getting away, right?
They're on a vacation.
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Is that two words? Then? Yeah,okay, I know I need to know
that. Why don't we take a littlebreak, guys, and then when we
come back, we're going to betalking about robots
in disguise. No,I've been thinking about getting
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a cat. When you do, you have toget a litter robot, I love it.
Litter robot, it's a smartlitter box that doesn't smell
like one, and it automaticallydoes the scooping. Litter robot,
yeah, and I don't even have tothink about it until the app
notifies me it's time to removethe waste bag. Hey little robot,
order me a pizza. Not everythingcan be as smart as little robot.
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Say hey to little robot andgoodbye to scooping the smart
appliance that helps withoutasking.
All right, we have returned. Weare talking about robots. This
was my sub genre, so I go first.
And I was actually recommendedthis movie by Vanessa. Yes, I am
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choosing from 1987 Batteries notincluded. The residents of 817,
East Eighth Street are about tolose everything they
have. What do you mean? Thosetenants are still in there
tonight, I'll have them out bytonight. Nothing
in this world can save them,nothing but a miracle.
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Steven Spielberg presents aMatthew Robbins film,
welcome to America.
Spaceships from a very. Allfine, very small. This
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is history, machines thatreproduce themselves. I like
being a family again. What thehell is that? It's Sam, the
little guys.
I don't know how you got here.
Oh, why you picked up?
Somebody's helping them,somebody's bringing them
together. Is that why you'rehere.
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Batteries not included. This wasdirected by Matthew Robbins, who
did Eric Corvette, Summer, ohshit, Dragon Slayer, oh the
legend of Billie Jean. And itwas written by him and Brad
Bird. Brad Bird wrote TheIncredibles one and two,
Ratatouille, Tomorrowland.
Matthew Robbins also wroteMimic, speaking of Del Toro,
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don't be afraid of the dark andCrimson Peak. Also, Garris is
given a writer's credit or astory credit he did, of course,
critics to hocus pocus the flytwo. If you listen to his
podcast, he claims that he isthe writer of this. So Whoa,
yeah, he only has a story crediton this is starring Hume Cronin,
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who was in Brewster's millionscocoon, 12 Angry Men. And
Jessica Tandy, his real life,wife, who is in the birds
Driving Miss Daisy fried greentomatoes. Frank McRae is in this
he was in red Don Licensed toKill and loaded weapon. And also
Elizabeth Pina, Michael Carmineand John Pankow, Eric, have you
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seen batteries on I have not,and I'm surprised I haven't
listening to that list ofcreative
well, I'll just say this. Thismovie is a fucking nightmare,
and I'm treating this suggestionfrom Vanessa as a hostile actor.
So we started in New York City'sEast Village, where several
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blocks of a rundown neighborhoodare being demolished to build a
high rise office tower andsports complex. However, in the
middle of all this rubble andconstruction and tear down, is
one four story building withseveral residents who either
can't move out because they'rebroke or won't move out because
they're old and can't imagineever living anywhere else. By
the way, the developer isoffering them money to move out
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of this shit hole, and they'relike, No, we love this crime
ridden neighborhood. On theground floor of this building is
a small diner, and it's run byan elderly couple who live in
the building, Frank and hiswife, Faye, who has Alzheimer's
or dementia, some kind ofgeneric old person disease.
Meanwhile, the developer hashired a gang of small time thugs
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to gently rough up the oldpeople, but also destroy their
diner and their apartment sothat they are forced to leave
one night, the building isvisited by two robots who are
maybe aliens never explained,and you'll not really want to
know, but in exchange forplugging into the building's
power outlets, these tinyrobots, which are quite
adorable, start fixing thedamage done to the building. At
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first, only Fay sees them, butshe's crazy, right? So no one
believes her. But pretty soon,all of the residents have seen
the robots and have come to lovethem and have zero questions
about what or why any of this ishappening. These residents
include starving artist Mason,who looks uncomfortably like a
young Mark Marin and pregnantsingle Latina Marissa and even
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retired boxer Harry noble. Sothis gang of thugs, they don't
like seeing things gettingfixed, and they don't understand
it, so they're ramping up theiractivities against the
residents, but they can't put adamper on the shared joy of the
people in the building, whyMason and Marissa are falling in
love, and the diner has neverhad more customers, especially
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with these little robots helpingout. How can two robots do all
this work? You wonder, theycan't, but that's okay, because
one of the robots is pregnant,and she gives birth to two other
little robots, which areimmediately put into slave labor
for the residents of thisbuilding. Also to make matters
even more fucking uncomfortable,the robot gave birth to a third
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baby robot, but it was stillborn. Oh so Harry, the boxer who
was a little addled from one toomany blows to the head, steals
the dead baby robot from theplanter it was buried in to his
apartment and is able to bringit back to life. Vanessa, Holy
fuck, there's so manydistressing things going on in
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this movie, and I can't imagineany kid sitting through it,
especially the first act, whichis just a bunch of elderly
people complaining about goingto an old folks home, and
especially Faye, who hasdementia and can't come to grips
with the death of her youngadult son several years back.
Fucking the nightmare.
There's also an arsonist whoshows up and has a fairly
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elaborate plan with gas fumesand balloons or something in the
basement of this building andshit like this. And I was
fucking stressed. I. Fuckinggarbage. I hated it. Never watch
this film. This is awfultagline. Five ordinary people
needed a miracle. Then onenight, Fay Reilly left the
window open.
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Trivia,originally intended to be a
story featured in the TV series,amazing stories. Steven
Spielberg liked the idea somuch, he decided to make it a
theatrical release instead. Ahorror film was going to be
titled, batteries not included,but was forced to change its
name when this film was beingwritten. That movie child's
play. Oh. In Harry Noble'sbackstory, he is a former
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professional boxer who retiredafter suffering brain damage,
became a reclusive, handy manand turned to a nine non violent
philosophy. Never explained thatin the movie, in the back story
behind the death of Bobby RileyFaye and Frank son, Frank didn't
get along so well with Bobby andwould frequently lose his temper
with the boy. Bobby fed up withFrank losing his temper and
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making him feel like he's notgood enough, bought himself a
car and planned to run away, butin a tragic, senseless moment as
Bobby, Bobby drove, drove off inhis new car, he crashed and was
killed instantly.
What the fuckVanessa, have you? Had you seen
this film before,yeah, but I was like, eight.
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Oh, I don't even know how aneight year old could keep the
attention span. I think I reallyliked the little robots. And
robots are cute. Yeah, that'sall I
was really 30 minutes into themovie, when they show up, you
have to deal with these oldpeople. And I'm like, if I was a
kid, I would first of all bebored, yeah, because I wouldn't
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understand why rent control andall. That's kind of why all this
shit is going on. But also thenI'd start being like, Jesus
Christ, this is depressing shit.
When do the robots show up?
I look in my defense, I wasplanning on watching this one
and you sounded interested. So Iwas like, All right, why don't
you check itout? I want you to watch it now.
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Maybe back to me. Maybe I will.
I don'tknow if I'll be able to handle
the stillbirth scene. Thatsounds like really rough. I
might cry a lot. Iwhen this little teleport robot
shows up, I'm like, What thefuck
his battery wasn't included.
Thisis where the line from the movie
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comes out, because Mason, theartist, when this dead robot
shows up, says, very sadly,battery is not included.
Hence the title, oh, my GodLord. Oh, no, I'm so sorry.
Quick. Start talking about yourit was worth it. Just for the
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review, though, Iwill say I seen all caps just
around my eye. It's great. Wow.
Well, I went with 1999 irongiant.
You're nine years old. You'rewatching TV,
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a perfectly good brain wasted,when all of a sudden
you go to investigate yourconclusion.
You do what any kid would do.
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You go looking for trouble,and Sure enough,
it finds you. YouThe Iron Giant.
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I don't think I've actually seenit
so also distressing, but a muchbetter film. Yes,
I watched the Signature Edition,which includes two additional
scenes and swaps out acommercial that's playing in the
background to includeTomorrowland. This was a budget
of 50 million, box office of31.7 No, if it helps, it was a
massivehit on video. Yeah, I think it
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made up for its sense, but atthe time, it was seen as a huge
failure. Writer, director BradBird, who wrote on the
Incredibles Ratatouille,batteries not included, and
Tomorrowland, directed a MissionImpossible Ghost Protocol, among
some of those others, starringVin Diesel as The Iron Giant,
who we know from Fast andFurious guardians Galaxy Triple
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X and Riddick. Um Eli marenthalplays the voice of the little
boy who grows up to be Stifflerbrother in American Pie films.
Really didn't have much of hercareer. Harry Connick Jr plays
Dean. He was in Hope FloatsIndependence Day, Will and Grace
and lots of music, including thesoundtrack for Harry Met Sally.
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Jennifer Aniston plays the momshe was in 235, episodes of
friends as Rachel Green,Christopher McDonald, he plays
Kent Mansley. You recognize hisface because he's in 228,
things, but you're like, Hmm,but from what Thelma and Louise
happy, Gilmore Requiem for aDream among many others. And
John Mahoney plays the Generalraguard. 263 episodes as Martin
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crane and Fraser. I don't careabout the rest, because I love
that man in that show. Storyfollows in 1957 Maine, a sailor
is caught out at sea in a giantstorm. He calls for MayDay and
thinks he sees the lighthouse,but instead it is a giant robot
that has crash landed on Earth.
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His ship hits it and is tornapart, but he is placed gently
back on land. Meanwhile,Hogarth, a precocious little
boy, visits his mom, who'sworking at a local diner with
his newfound pet, a squirrel,because he likes to take things
and take them in and show them aspecial care. I wonder if
that'll come in later. Itescapes in the diner. It goes up
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the leg of a local cool artist,scrap metal shop owner slash
beat neck Dean. They overhearthe sailor and talking about his
story about the giant robot. Andof course, Hogarth, whose
imagination is very immense,goes a little wild and wants to
find the robot. That night, hismom has to work late, and
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Hogarth stays up eating snacksand watching horror films on TV.
When the power goes out, hewants to figure out what's going
on, and he discovers that thehis yard is torn asunder, which
his mom never really noticeslater, but that's okay.
Everything is fucked up. Hefollows a path that leads into
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the woods and discovers a giantmetal man who is all wound up in
the power station and is beingelectrocuted. Hogarth turns off
the power switch and saves therobot, and of course, the robot
and him then become fastfriends. Hogarth tries to teach
him about keeping out of sightand not killing everyone, also
not eating train tracks andalso, again, not killing
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everyone. He loops Dean in tohis sort of shenanigans, because
Dean has a great supply of foodfor the robot in his scrap yard.
Meanwhile, government agentsarrive along with the Kent
Mansley, who's leading theinvestigation. He's determined
to uncover what happened to thistown and send the army after the
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giant. This was a really goodfilm. It has solid writing. It's
super fun moments for eachcharacter. There's a point in
which the robot is he can becomedismantled. His hand is running
around the inside of the littlekid's house, and he's trying to
prevent his mom from seeing it.
And so they're sitting down todinner, and he starts saying a
very elaborate prayer, and keepssaying, like, get out of here,
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Satan. It's very, very cool. Ireally just love all of these,
these little moments that theysprinkle in there. However, I
would say that the there's somepacing issues in here. There
were some really powerful beatsthat didn't quite hit home for
me, because it felt just alittle off. I think that if this
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film was made today, I probablywould have cried like eight
times in it. I kind of almostcried once in it. But, you know,
I have, I have so much more. I'msorry the animation looks pretty
good, but it's very Don Bluth, Iwill say I love the robot. He
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looks great. He's just solikable in his animation and his
you can just see so much throughhis eyes, even though he doesn't
talk until probably abouthalfway through the film. This
originated from the book TheIron Man from 1968 by a poet,
Ted Hughes, who wrote the novelfor his children to comfort them
in the wake of their motherSylvia Plath's suicide. Ted
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Hughes died before the film'srelease, but his daughter Freda,
saw and loved it. The family'slast name is featured in the
film. The 1980 rock musicianPete Townsend chose to adapt the
book for a concert album. It wasreleased as the Iron Man, a
musical in 1989 and then in 1991Richard basley, who later became
(39:39):
the film films lead animator,pitched a version of the Iron
Man to Don Bluth, who turned itdown in late 1996 while
developing a project, the studiosaw this film as a perfect
vehicle for Brad Bird, becausethey wanted to launch him, which
I think is crazy, because I'mlike, how do. Studios do this.
That's not even a thing anymore.
(40:02):
At the time, he was working forTurner feature animation and
developing a film called raygun, which I'm not sure I ever
saw. The lead today in bird'soriginal version America and the
USSR were at war, and the giantdies. Tim McCann Lee's was hired
to write the script and said tohim, You can't kill et and not
bring him back. He was inspiredto make this film as a memorial
(40:25):
to his sister Susan Don Bluthwas or sorry Brad Bird was who
died at the hands of her strangehusband by gun violence. Do
you want to start another likefive minutes here?
His pitch was, what if a gun hada soul and didn't want to be a
gun. So there you go. The filmprobably failed, because it was
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not advertised, hardly at all,and it came out the same weekend
as the sixth son. So I was stillat
Suncoast when this came out, andit was huge release, so it did
quite well.
That's great. That's really goodto hear, because it was really
depressing reading about, like,all the ways it got fucked from
its adversary. Like, normallyyou do, like cups, and you'd
(41:09):
have, like, a year out inadvance. You'd have, like, toys
and all this animated feature,yeah. And there was, it was
literally four months ahead. Thestudio kept, like, wavering back
and forth on when it was goingto come out. They, like, only
found out the last minute. Andthen there was, like, a poster
that got released, and that waspretty much it. So
wow, this is a kind of adorablemovie. It is.
(41:31):
It's a super adorable movie. Um,yeah, it's has some really
interesting, strong lines in it,like, they're all think, they
all think they're gonna die froma nuclear attack at one point,
and they're like, well, there'sno point in running. We're all
just gonna die.
Go to a condensed, highlypopulated area and make sure
(41:52):
we're not surviving for sevendays afterwards, exactly. All
righty,Eric, you want to go? Yes, yeah,
I'll go here five minutes also,or 10 minutes,
oh, my God, I'll do better.
Also, a fully animated film, theMitchells versus the machine.
(42:14):
You battle. Katie used to be mylittle buddy. Go on nature
hikes, skip rocks. Tell her. Areyou excited for cam? Don't make
me go. We used to be soconnected. Hey, Dad, smile. You
(42:36):
know, you can experience thingsa whole lot better without that
cam, Dad,this is how I experiencing, I
don't think,Yes, tomorrow I'm finally
leaving for college. But in themeantime, I made you guys this
goodbye video. Youknow what? This is. Our last
night together. How about wemake 10 seconds family, eye
contact starting. Put your phonedown now. No, you're allowed to
(42:56):
blink. It's just eye contact.
Oh, finally, no screens at thetable. Lynn, why are you kicking
me? I don't understand. I'm justgonna Oh, look, I'll watch it.
Dad, it's too late. Look, Iwanna watch it.
Dad, this is exactly why I'mexcited to leave tomorrow.
Katie, I know you can fix this.
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Why do you need all that to takeme to the airport? I canceled
your plane ticket to college. Weare going to drive you to school
on a cross country road trip asa family behold and now I
present trickingRick Mitchell and kiss me die.
Dang it Katie.
Dang it Katie, dang it. Katie,Hey, Dad, can you check the
(43:42):
trunk? Yeah, sure. Dang it.
Katie, Hey, kids, there'ssupposed to be some great ice
around here. Just a set down. Wehear a pal about to drop our
biggest invention yet. Meet thehelper bot. We promise you they
will never turn evenMom, what is that? You
greetings, humans,technology rising up Sayonara,
(44:12):
robots roaming the streets. Whatis this strange creature? Dogs,
pig dog. Pig dog. Loaf of bread.
The beaches have always beenweird.
No time to wash your hands.
Don't worry, I never do.
That's what makes us great. Oh,my girl, then we just might be
weird enough to save the world.
(44:33):
All right hands infrom 2021 it's a Netflix
release, or you can run it notthe next Netflix, or directed by
Michael ryanda, who's done twoshort films, and Jeff Rowe, who
you might know from TeenageMutant Ninja Turtles, Mutant
(44:57):
Mayhem. Yeah. Is two directorson this written by Michael
ryanda, who wrote Gravity Fallsand a bunch of shorts. Jeff Rowe
who wrote Teenage Mutant NinjaTurtles, Mutant Mayhem and
Gravity Falls, and Peter Sisley,who wrote a couple TV episodes,
so not a deep well of historyfor the filmmakers in this one
(45:22):
actor, Abby Jacobson. Jacobson,who did 50 episodes of
disenchantment, 50 episodes ofBroad City, Danny McBride from
the righteous gemstones, 27episodes and going Halloween.
Halloween kills. Halloween ends,and much better vice principals.
Maya Rudolph, 167 episodes ofSNL, bridesmaids, Teenage Mutant
(45:48):
Ninja Turtles, Mutant Mayhem,plus a lot of other people like
Fred Armisen, Doug the pug.
Conan O'Brien, yeah, the dog inthis was voiced by an actual
dog. That's crazy.
The whole idea of the movie isit starts with a teenage
(46:10):
daughter who's a filmmaker. Soyou know, that's nice making
movies her and her fatherdoesn't understand her at all.
He's a complete Luddite. Hebarely can use a computer. And
they are, of course, not gettingalong. She's getting ready to go
to college. Her little brotheris great. She enjoys him. They
get along really well. It's adinosaur lover.
(46:33):
The father decides they need tobond.
So in a move surely not to pissoff his teenage daughter, he
cancels her flight to cross thecountry to go to the film school
for the introduction week, whereeverybody gets to meet all the
new friends she's been makingonline, and all the people she's
looking forward to meeting, andthey're going to drive so she's
(46:55):
thrilled. The Road Trip then isup ended because a super mogul
tech guy releases an update tokind of, you know, the things we
talk to on our phones, dependingon what kind of phone you've
got, and insults the privateprior one, who then proceeds to
(47:19):
take over all of the robots thathe is releasing, and starts
collecting people around theworld in these little pods
there. I will throw out a realhuge story problem I had with
this. But in order to geteverybody upset, she disconnects
all the Wi Fi and like, how areyou communicating with all your
robots and shit? How are youdoing a worldwide thing. What do
(47:41):
you destroy it all anyways? Butthe family accidentally kills
some of the road or destroyssome of the robots and figure
out a weird way of we're goingto band together and go against
this. I gotta say, this isactually a lot of fun, except
for one big problem. This is atwo hour cartoon, yeah, and it
(48:06):
would have been so good withabout half an hour shaved out of
it, because when it's good, it'sa lot of fun. But it has like
three feels like we're rampingup to the end part, parts, one
of them early enough that, youknow it's not, but the next
couple are far enough along,you're going, Oh, this isn't the
ending. So that hurts. It a lot,a whole lot of what I think
(48:33):
would have been a really fun,silly animated movie about
stopping the end of the world.
But the tagline, prepare to getweird, because the world depends
on it. Okay, it was originallytitled Mitchell's versus a
machine, then changed toconnected, but Netflix bought
inside. We're going back toMitchells and the machines. I
(48:56):
mentioned Monty the dog, wasoriginally going to be a voice
actor, but instead, they broughtin Doug the pug.
Actually, that dog makes a lotof moolah.
Sony animations, first Netflixexclusive film for what that's
(49:17):
worth.
She was going to get atheatrical release in 2020.
Didn'tdelayed several times, and then
finally just came to Netflixcouple years. But it's fun. It
was a fun little it sounds likeyou've seen it too. Yeah,
I thought it was really cute andtoo long, but I'm surprised. I
(49:40):
did not realize it was a NetflixOriginal.
Yeah, it doesn't look like itwas. Yeah, Sony, so you've seen
their animation plenty of times,but yeah, voice acting is fun.
The comedy works, but yeah, justlike,
Come on, let's stop this. Ithink this. This. Did well
(50:00):
enough, is there a sequel, or asequel plan or something?
I didn't see anything about it,but I wouldn't be surprised. I
mean, it's a moderatelysuccessful animated thing. Of
course, it's on Netflix, so whothe hell knows, right? If
Netflix wants to do a sequel?
Well,it sounds like both of you guys
had good movies.
Yeah, yeah. Two out of threethis time, I guess
(50:23):
it's always a it's always agamble.
So to say, no, no, you doBatteries not included. I'll do
behind or something else. Ican't remember what I got on
that I that made me think Iwanted to talk about robots. I
think it was seeing our buddy,Joe Sherlock, had posted like, a
picture of a Fembot or somethingfrom his movie. And I was like,
(50:46):
I want to do something aboutrobots, and I'm gonna find
something fun and wacky likethat. Oh, boy,
fail. Well, it's not the robotsfault,
that's true. There you go, Eric.
I hate to put you on the spot,but you have the next page.
(51:06):
I've got a wide ranging ideathat I'm going to expand for
your sake, but I'm thinking, Howabout movies Stephen King
related, not based necessarilyon Stephen King, because I'm
sure there's not a lot of thoseyou haven't seen, but something
like maybe talked about it indance macabre or something like
(51:27):
that, any or a Stephen Kingpresents film, which I think we
mentioned last week, sometimeswas not so great, but also
sometimes pretty damn good.
Can it be a adaptation?
Absolutely,absolutely, that was my
question, too.
So it's the other ones are justto expand a little bit, because
I have a feeling you've seen alot of Stephen King films,
(51:50):
probably allexcept for the monkey. Well,
there you go. NowI like this idea very much.
Okay, well, then that brings usto the end of the show. That
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(53:17):
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it's a Google, Google phone. Oh,it's a fully functioning thing.
Somehow, they're my that numberI used, I guess when I ordered
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because it probably just goingto show up as a number to us.
Yeah, yes, that's it. Yeah,definitely do that. Cool. Also,
I have a book that's probablyout by the time this it is
called thorns. It's a it'sanother horror book. It's
technically a novel clocked inat over 40,000 words. So
(54:04):
excellent. What isthe requirement for novel
length?
The horror Writers Associationconsiders anything over 40,000
words a novel Gotcha. But Ithink that in other places, it's
got to be 50,000 words so andthen, if you're Stephen King,
(54:25):
it's a minimum 100,000 words.
A door stopper. Can it stop? Adoor yes or no,
right? Anyway, this is out onAmazon. It's also out where you
know, if you don't want tosupport this evil corporation.
This book is available. Youknow, you can go to your Barnes
(54:46):
and Noble and order from them.
You can go to your mom and popstore. If you want, whatever
evil corporation you like, youcan get it from.
What about your website? Is itavailable? No,
I'm not doing that shit.
Fucking. Annoying,packing it and sending it
yourself. You feellike you really need an
autographed coffee. Reach out tome and we can make something
(55:06):
happen. But otherwise,get it. Where you get it? And
find me at crypto con,Barnes and Nobles popping up all
over the place again. And Idon't know if you've been to any
of the new ones. They're reallythey're very different. They're
real interesting. They're tryingto be like a local bookstore.
They pattern their whatevertheir stock is to the area
(55:26):
they're in.
I went to one very niceyesterday with my little little
at Bellevue square. They justopened one, and it was really
cool. And she ended up almoststealing a Curious George, which
I paid for. She was veryenamored with he was a perfect
eye height, and she just snaggedhim and started eating him. So,
(55:50):
oh, there wego. Good way to get mom to buy
this for me,yep. Let me tell you, kids, you
want some shit, just lick it.
Your kid, your parents will feelvery obligated to purchase it.
You know, you you mentionedsomething about the last time
when you were sick and you'relike, I come up here and I lick
(56:10):
everything like that was a veryuncomfortable thing to say. And
now here you go again. Look, mylife has changed a lot. I
witnessed a lot of just childlooking random things, and now
it's normalized for me.
Okay, gang, we're coming back inseven short days when we were
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