October 9, 2025 • 68 mins
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A quick update on everyone's life, and then the gang talks films featuring Alice Cooper!
Also discussed: The Conjuring: Last Rites, Primitive War, The Oval Portrait.
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Now I'm gonna be a bit paranoid about it.
Oh, I'm sorry. Did I break yourconcentration
somewhere between science andsuperstition.
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So such sights to show you.
Strange eons. Welcome to strangeeons. Radio that is Eric over
there, hello, that is Vanessaover there. Hello, and I am
Kelly, Hey, gang. We've beendoing this every other week
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thing for a while, and you know,part of the reason was I really
wanted to focus on my writing. Ihad all these other things going
on. Let me tell you what'sactually happened briefly. My
dad has gotten very, very sickand does not have a long time
left, and so I'm spending, likemy weekends up in Bellingham
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with my dad right now. And mywork, we had kind of a bit of a
tragedy there with one of theboss's kids. And I am now also
kind of running a company that Idid not want to ever own or run
my Jesus. So my writing notexactly happening. Although
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second edition of string ofsecret language of spiders is
available, the only differenceis the it contains the original
screenplay. The book is basedon, if that's interesting to
you, this is available now, thefirst edition still available.
So, and I have been writing alittle bit, and I think I'll
have something before the end ofthe year, but that's kind of why
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I've been a little out of touchand off the internet and doing
this every other week thing. ButI really appreciate you guys
jumping in with an extra episodeevery once in a while.
Yeah, sounded like one I need toput on my list. Yeah, I
think you would enjoy it. No,remember the humor
recommendation? Oh, yeah,yes, having a good time.
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Well, I really big ass spider isa movie I fucking love, yeah, so
and I think I even have spokenabout it on this show. So
finding out that that was thesame director has made that
something that I would like tocheck out. It's fun.
It's it's more fun than the onethat it's almost identical to.
The, yeah, the stupid, oh mygod, I'm forgetting the kids
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demon night.
It's though, the one with thelipstick into the
Oh, Night of the demon. Nightdemons. Okay, yeah, yeah, Night
of the demons, no. And it's funthrowing a party and you're all
invited. That's right, that'sbetter than the entire film,
right? There. You should go seeall the sequels, if I can just
record that and play thatanytime somebody volunteers that
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I should see that film and belike, Oh, nope, I'm good again.
Thank you.
Also want to, I mean, this willcome out, hopefully everything
all right, but a little getbetter. Badger heard some stuff
that he's going through. Sohopefully you get through all of
that by the time you hear this.
Yeah, really, yeah. I heard thatJeffrey was not doing very well,
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or, as Vanessa refers toGeoffrey,
when did I do that? I'm sorry.
And and I was like, Wait asecond, you have to get better
quickly. Because without himright there watching the
episodes on YouTube, when theycome out and commenting, it
looks like nobody's watching.
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We've got a couple other folkswho chime in every once in a
while, grab the mantle, comeforth.
It's just funny, because we havelike 1000s of views on those
YouTube videos, but only badgercomments. And I'm like, is it
all Russian bots? Who's I'lltake them, if it's bots and
Russians are listening, up itget us up. You know, put us at
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100 grand. If it's all but bots,nobody cares.
Yeah, it's true.
Another thing I want to show youguys is our regular listener and
friend of the show and friendBob, supplied us with this
lovely book, VHS video coverart, which is fucking gorgeous.
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It is something else, Bob. Thankyou so much for this. I got to
see Bob very little at theLovecraft Film Festival last
weekend, yep. But Bob. Love you.
Thank you so much. I've beenpaging through this, and I think
we might do something with thisa little later. Oh, it's very,
very cool. So if anybody else islooking at I mean, I It's a
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coffee table book. I can't evenreally show you how cool this
is, but it's just page afterpage of full color art of the
full box art of a VHS thing.
It's really. Gorgeous.
And that's just, yeah, it's oneof those things that is lost to
time. But yeah, you know, thefact that people would get these
crazy, epic, you know, box artdone for their VHS is that had
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most of the time nothing to dowith their movie, but looked so
effing cool. It's just, it'sneat that somebody took the time
to collaborate that and put itin a book.
I was also looking at a coupleof these, like one of the and I
can't remember the name of thevideo, but one of them is
clearly a rip off of the coverof Cobra. And it is, it's like
the Enforcer, or something likethat, but it's the Enforcer too.
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And it says the man is back,clearly looks like Stallone
holding a gun. And I was like,wow, this is pretty blatant.
Put that right next to theCobra.
Asylum was not the first, No,certainly not. Oh, man. How is
the Lovecraft Film Festival, bythe
way? Yeah, it was good. I got tosee a little more actually, than
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I normally do, and mostimportant for me is always to
hang out with people that I onlyget to see at the Lovecraft Film
Festival, and I did a lot ofthat, Eric, you were there for a
couple of days and leave becausea once in a lifetime opportunity
had presented itself to you.
The originally, it's always inOctober. So last winter deed and
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I bought concert tickets to ourfavorite artists. And it had a
fun full circle kind of thing toit in that the first concert we
ever went to was one of his, andit was at this location. So
like, Oh, cool. We go thereagain. So yeah, I had to leave
early on Sunday because they hadto move the Lovecraft festival.
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But the two days I was there,it was good, good
time. Plus, I mean, who knowswhen you'd ever get to see
Darius Rucker again, except forevery time he's shown up since
that first time and every timeafter this time, if you're
gonna go by that way, I've beento the Lovecraft quest festival
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23 times. The ratio is muchhigher in favor of Lovecraft.
It's a good point.
Well, I'm looking forward to theday where I can leave my home
enough to, oh yes, venturesomewhere, where I can be a
night away, yeah, from mypremises, and maybe go and visit
again.
How are things at home? Oh,little one.
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Oh, so they they tell you, theytell you this a lot, right? When
you have a kid, that if you goto daycare, they will get sick,
like a lot, and you're like,okay, cool, flu, maybe some
covid or RSV, like, I don't knowthere's gonna be shit that's
gonna pop up you're prepped, andthen they'll get something so,
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like, weird and historically,like, it sounds like a medieval
disease. So my daughter had afever, and then she started
like, like, liquid just pouringout of her mouth constantly,
like a Xenomorph, like youcouldn't there was puddles with
where she was walking. And I waslike, Oh God, her final teeth
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must be coming in. Like, that'swhat that is. And so I kept
telling everyone, oh yeah, she'steething. She's teething. And
then I noticed this crazy rashthat had a bunch of like, pimple
like dots all over it, and IGoogled it, and there's this
very contagious childhooddisease called Hand, Foot and
Mouth, where you get rashes inyour hand, foot, mouth and some
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other potentially delicateplaces. Yeah, and it just is
rampant in daycares. Like, I hadnever heard of this. Like I'd
heard a chicken pox. I had notheard of fucking hand, foot and
mouth. It. Most adults don't getit. My husband, however, did get
it. So that poor motherfucker,he was developing the sores and
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like you can't you have it forseven to 10 days, so she
couldn't go to daycare for abouta week. And then once I informed
them, and was like, Hey, shepicked this up from you guys.
They then put out all thesenotices, and then there was all
these, like emails about properhygiene and going around,
because it's just so supercontagious. I did not get it, so
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somehow it passed me by thistime.
Yeah, thanks for this, tellingus this now, after you've shown
up in my house, oh,no, she's she even she's passed
it. It's, yeah, we're good.
We're very good. But yeah, soshe's doing great. Now she's
such a joy when she's not justso fucking miserable, like we
watched so much frozen and Elmoand just let her curl up and
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feel like shit for days,glad that has receded.
Yes, yes, I will say, though themedieval diseases are alive and
well with us, and you won't knowit until you're around a little
person.
Yeah. Well, let's, let's diveinto some movies. Guys, I have
seen a few things. You guys haveseen a few things, and here we
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go. I saw the conjuring lastrites. Oh my God, was it helped
to make it the biggest openingof the franchise.
I bet it deserved itso better by far than the last
two, which is a low bar, nowherenear the heights of the first
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two. So it was fine,kind of like most of the
conjuring. Andthis very well could have been
called the conjuring a newbeginning, because their
daughter has married a guy, andthey get pulled into this, this
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new case. I was like, This justmade them the most money any of
their movies has, and they'regonna be like, well, that's the
last one. Guys no reason want toput out another conjuring movie,
right? 100% although I did seethat HBO has a conjuring series
going to be starting up the theearly years.
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How? So?
This zombified horse willcontinue to be beaten
until every last penny is rungout of it.
Do you think it's near, like thetop, best ones, or like the
bottom tier? Because there'sbeen, what, six of these. Now,
five of these?
Well, if you count the conjuringuniverse, I think there's 12
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movies.
Yeah, I guess I'm just justwondering conjuring, like, just
the married, I think this is thesixth one. Okay,
that's just the conjuring. Thefirst one, still the best,
I think. So I think that that'sgot some really nice scares and
an ending that is, is very scaryand not blockbuster. Yeah,
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exactly, yeah. You know thesecond one then ends with Ed
hanging off of a post, off of abuilding and everything. You're
like, wow, this has escalatedvery quickly.
I think we would have heardabout ghosts that did
that seen the second one. I'veseen random ones, but the 100
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days has allowed me to see allof them, 100 days of horror,
Aces and The Conjuring as a youknow, if you stack them all up,
conjurings are the best. Ithink,
yeah, I would agree that. Imean, I think I like that first
insidious better than any otherconjuring. But the first one,
yeah, because there's somethingabout how fucking wacky that
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movie is that I really like gooff the edge of the cliff really
quickly.
So anyway, Conrad, last rightsavailable to rent,
I have caught up now onpeacemaker,
yeah, are you guys? Have youseen no,
oh yeah. Last episode, itwent finally where I thought it
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was gonna go, yeah. So I'm gladfor that, because I listened to
a podcast where they talk aboutspecifically superhero stuff,
and they were like, maybe itwon't do the most obvious
possible thing. And I was like,it should just do the most
obvious possible thing. Theuniverse has a problem in it. It
seems like that problem mighteach episode you get a little
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bit more like, Hmm, it's missingsomething here. Yeah.
I mean, we knew that the otherdimension was too good to be
true. Yeah. I think my favoritepart was Harcourt in it, like,
notices immediately what isgoing wrong. And, yeah, and if
you kind of contrast that withPeacemaker driving down the
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street and smiling ateverybody so stoked, waving at
the little boy, yeah, I lovethat. I love the things that
don't come to him that everyoneelse is like, wait a minute and
seeing what's what's the guy,his little buddy, vigilante
meeting himself is my favoritepart of that episode.
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So pretty, pretty good stuff,his whole secret room, where he
has maybe a billion dollarsworth of drugs and cash. And
he's like, I'm not gonna spendthis. This is blood money, and
I'm watching them all jam downthere. Yeah, it's a, it's a
great show. Only two episodesleft in this season, yeah, oh,
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it'snot done yet. Cool. Yeah, no,
there's still, yeah, still someto come. So I'm really excited
to see what happens. You know,who's gonna live, who's gonna
die, what the hell they're gonnado with this, this place, I'm
pretty stoked. So big,big cameo scene
that ties it into this. Oh, myGod.
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All right, yes, there was I, theCAMEO. I. Thought that
particular actor was not nearlyas good in this cameo as they
were in the film that they werein though, oh, I was kind of
like, Oh, all right, fine. Imean, he's in prison now. TV
lighting. Things aren't goingnow TV, TV, sound design, TV, it
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just lit. Everything is justpulled back a little. It was
like, I'll be excited when weget to the next movie. That'll
be great. But, yeah, I do likethe James Gunn is, like, it's a
shared universe. It's gonna be afucking shared universe, like
people are gonna show the fuckup, which is really nice.
Oddly enough, the WB arrow SuperGirl series did that really well
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too. You know, we're all here.
We're all gonna run into eachother at times.
That's nice. That is reallygood, because it's always really
upsetting when you're like, waita minute, this huge global
disaster occurred and noone can from the other man's the
only one fighting.
It seems wrong. Yeah, and Marvelis especially, like, guilty of
this. Yeah, it's it can be veryinfuriating to me when I'm like,
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really a giant floating being,like, went over the planet's
surface and only the Eternalsstanding on Hampstead Heath went
Yes, okay, well, to bring it allstaggering back to Earth with a
film that I saw at the LovecraftFestival this year.
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Edgar Allen post, the ovalportrait
in similar in Lovecraft. This isa entire movie based on a two
page story.
I was not familiar with thisstory, and I didn't see the
film.
It it's quite good. It isunabashedly romantic in some
ways, with the if you like theleads, this is one of those
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movies. If you like the leads,you're gonna like the movie. If
either of the leads bug you, itmight be a big old slog to get
through. But I thought they wereboth wildly entertaining and
very interesting with, you know,depth, not this is my life.
You're never really gonna learnanything new about me. I am a
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dislikable person. What's thestory?
The idea is, there's a guy whoruns a appointment only antique
shop, and he runs into a woman,not of this time, not of the
time she's in. It's modernsetting, so there's all the
stuff and all the things, butthe lead lady in it doesn't have
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a cell phone, checks her emailat the library, and is a
classical painting painter, andthere is a oval portrait that a
rich guy wants to be stolen, andeach person who tries to steal
it starts right at thebeginning, gets killed. And so
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that's what the story is about.
That sounds cool.
It's it's pretty good. I alwayshave weird things with festival
viewings where sometimes, like Iwill really like this. Now, will
I like it outside of theatmosphere that especially
Lovecraft creates such anatmosphere, yeah, well, I still
really like it, but I think Iwould so well recommended that
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when it comes out, I'm sureit'll be a while.
Were you able to catch that Kingand yellow short film? I did
not. Oh boy. It is good, which,yeah, I need to. It was a short.
It was three people. It was astudent film, which I was just
like, Jesus Christ, these guysare gonna fucking become huge
just and the idea of the kingand yellow is the the play that,
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if you watch it in its entirety,it drives you mad. And there's
really no way to to adapt thatbook into a film idea, because
the background is that story,and then the books in the king
in yellow are varying degreesof, you know, unreliable
narrator in a slightlyfuturistic world and stuff like
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that. And it's just like, okay,not gonna happen. So I think the
way to adapt the king in yellowis to do this background of the
story and then tell a differentstory. Well, these three
students of the king in yellowhave decided that they're going
to each take a section of theplay and only read that, and
then they can discuss with eachother how it all comes apart,
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and they're very careful, andyou can't use names and all of
these rules and everything, butthen you find out one of them
has actually read all threeparts, yeah, and it's really,
really good. I was like, Wow, noawards, no awards for this film.
I did make it to one shortsblock and,
damn, yeah, really, really goodgroup of things, like six or
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seven shorts. Yeah?
I got to see Daniel gildarks newshort film.
Who's fun when I wanted to seetoo.
Yeah, I didn't even know he wasup to something. I mean, of
course he is, but that'scool. Well, interestingly
enough, he has just finishedproducing a slasher film that
was shot up here. Oh, yeah. Sothat sounds really cool, too.
That's super cool. Danielgildart, the director of
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Cthulhu,I saw a movie called primitive
war.
Do not know this, nothing. I betyou saw the previews, though,
about the soldiers in Vietnamwho suddenly wander into an area
full of dinosaurs.
Oh yes, yes, they did see thetrailer. For this, their reason.
We didn't see anything muchafter that.
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Well, it's not very good, but itis entertaining enough. Here's
the problem. All it needed to bewas American soldiers in Vietnam
wandering into an area full ofdinosaurs. And it, you know, the
story behind it is just way tooconvoluted. And there's there's
Russian agents there, there'swormholes, there's all of this
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stuff that just did not need tobe a part of the story. Also the
acting. The the main guy is thegood looking brother from True
Blood, sukis brother, I didn'tsee it true, okay? And I've
always thought he was a fineactor, not in this. And then the
female lead is the number sixCylon from Battlestar Galactica,
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who I also thought was a goodactor, but not in this. But I
will say this, the dinosaurslook cool. And the third act is
everything that the movie shouldhave been. It's also like two
hours and 10 minutes long. Whydoes this movie need this much
story? So anyway, wait forrental or wait for free
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streaming, and it's gonna befine, but
too much. There's a reason kindof disappeared.
Yeah, primitive war. Where isthat on? Well, it's not in, it's
not well, it should be rental bynow. I mean, there's nobody in
the theater so fair.
Well, I have been continuing tokind of chip away at strange new
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worlds. I'm not caught up yet,but just watched an episode that
featured and kind of centeredaround the character of Kirk,
and it continues. This seasoncontinues to be very weird, like
they it almost feels like everyepisode has a totally different
writer, or they're pivoting overand over again about, like,
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where they're trying to go, whatthey're trying to do. And
they're very inspired by thefact that they got away with
that musical episode. And sothey just keep reaching for the
stars. And every once in allthere's a really good episode,
but I would say there's morerough ones than good ones. This
Kirk episode was very centeredaround the idea that he's number
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one on a ship, and he strives tobe a captain, but it's just he
hasn't gotten the chance yet,and then all of a sudden he gets
the chance, and he basicallykind of freezes up, and at the
same time, a lot of the crewfrom the enterprise end up
helping him out. And so youessentially get the crew from
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the original TOS workingtogether, and it just feels
little stunty. A little stunty.
It just feels Yeah, justperformative. I don't know if
that's the right word, but sure,yeah. It just doesn't flow. And
nothing quite makes sense withthe I don't know why the
characters are in the situationsthey're in right now. I don't
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know why Spock is with theperson he's with. I and I don't
know, it's just been gettingpretty far off the rails this
season, but still better thandisco.
So discovery, oh, discovery.
Gonna say, How dare you sorryI haven't seen enough disc. The
only disc I saw was veryupsetting. So we have to do
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another disco.
Will there be less rape? Becauseif so, maybe I'd be pretty
easily. That's avoidable in alot of disco. As you
know, I gave up on the seasonvery early on, and I realized
why, as you're talking they havereally embraced, like, the
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nerdiest aspects of Star Trekand the nerdiest viewers, the
people who are gonna like themusical and the all the stunt
stuff and everything. Those arethe people I would not like to
run into at a convention or sitnext to at a party and all this
stuff. I'm like, God, you likethis episode? You know, I just
wanted good sci fi. And it feelsvery much like it's kind of
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almost a comedy now,yeah, it definitely has a lot of
comedic strokes, and it's toughtoo, because I'm watching Star
Trek Next Gen at the same time.
So just watched a pretty. Midtier Star Trek Next Gen episode,
where Picard is stuck on theship. He goes to get a saddle
while the ship is supposed to becleaned. And it turns out that
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there's a bunch of people tryingto, like, steal a bunch of shit
on the ship, and he has to sortof do a die hard in there. And
it's such a mid tier next genepisode, but so good, compared
to, oh no, everything you know,like, it has no point when you
get to the ending, it just kindof like, end ends, the end. And
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you're like, Why did what wasthe purpose?
A big hit at this summer.
It was very cool. Like, I mean,I loved, like, watching Picard
be like a fucking badass allday, every day. I will sure I
love next gen to the moon andback. But it's funny because I
know, for that episode, I waslike, oh, you know this one's
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okay, and blah, blah. Butcompared to strange new worlds,
it's like, okay, this isactually like, this is cinema.
This is trek. Oh, mywell, to move away from a highly
humorous one to I went to thetheater with Mr. Hollis, and we
caught the long walk. Yeah. Haveyou ever? Have you seen it?
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Um, I saw it?
Yeah, on the convent, of course,yeah, Jesus Christ. You know,
it's kind of like study oftotalitarianism, friendship,
endurance, and they're crazythings, yeah, when I was
watching it, it's kind of like,this is good, and the trying to
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get spoilery or anything, but somany people said the end was
devastating, which I did notfind at all. There's a lot of
devastating shit along the walkand some horrifically powerful
movement, and we've talkedseveral times on the show about
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how annoying it is with a lot ofmodern horror films where
they're just not likable people,they show why that matters. The
some of the people on this areso likable, and you so want
these, yeah, people to be ableto continue, but you know, they
can't, which gives everythingthis sense of dread and tragedy
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almost before anything evenstarts. Yeah, even the two most
unlikable people on the walk youstill are so upset when they
they had depth. They weren'tjust this one guy's gonna be an
asshole and he'll get his, andthis other guy's gonna be an
arrogant Dick, and he'll get histhey were deep, way beyond just
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being that, which I thought waseven if it was briefly. I just
thought, yeah, this was really,really good.
I've been this is really stuckwith me. I think because, much
like the the friend characterPeter on the walk the black kid,
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like he talks about looking atthe world through this sort of
positive lens. And that'ssomething that I do a lot, yeah,
and it's really interesting,because it really ate hard at me
because of how it's so much workto do it. It's not like you're
just you click on andeverything's great, and you just
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see the world like that. Youhave to, like endlessly, choose
that. And I was definitelycrying at the end of that film,
because it is, it is sodifficult to watch as the world
crumbles around you, but you'retrying to just scoop out that
beauty. It was powerful.
The way I read, it was much moreof a different kind of powerful.
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I thought it's still a verypowerful ending. It wasn't, oh,
okay, yeah.
I thought the ending wastelegraphed way too long. You
know, there's basically twooptions. They talked about what,
what was going to happen, youwere like, Oh, well, this is
what's going to happen now.
Yeah, I liked it. This is one ofmy very favorite King books. He
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wrote this. This was his firstnovel before anything else was
published, and it was basicallyhim kind of lashing out about
the horrors of Vietnam andeverything. You can really see
that in this just, you know,wasting young lives. I heard you
talk about this on the miniepisode. Mark Hamill, I must
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disagree, horribly, horriblymiscast. I've hated him. He's
the problem is, he's an amazingvoice actor, and he's a So, so
actor, and he was a voice actorin this, which means he was just
way over the top andunbelievable and ridiculous. You
know, I was like, no, no, no.
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This needed to be somebody thatyou could actually kind of look
up to as maybe a father figureor something like that. That's
who he is in the book. Oh. Theworld kind of looks up to the
general as this man, and as thebook continues to be told, you
realize, holy shit, the worldhas gotten so bleak that this
guy is just very charismatic.
And you know, that's why this iseven being allowed to happen.
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And I just don't think that I assoon as he started talking in
his basically old Joker voice. Iwas like, no, no, no, no, no,
you have completely missed thischaracter.
Read the book since, like,whenever the Bachman books came
out. So I had no association tothat.
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I just it just took me out ofevery time he spoke. I was like,
this movie is so fucking heavythat He took me right out of it.
That makes a ton of sense to mewhat you're saying. Because when
I was viewing it, I was like,Oh, he's like a kind of
figurehead of the artifice ofAmerica. And it felt like such
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an uncle. Sam moved like poster,yeah, like walking around.
He was the image. He was not thebook.
He's like a comically largecharacter
could have been. I just didn'tthink that it worked for me. No,
that's fine.
I mean, that makes a lot ofsense.
The ending in the book is reallydifferent from this ending, and
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I'm not sure that you could filmthe ending in the book, because
it's, it's, it's kind of left upto you to decide what has
happened. You're like, Is heinsane? Did he live what you
know? So I wasn't sure how theywere going to do that, and I
didn't mind this ending. I wishit had happened in a way that
surprised me. Is all, I guess Imight have been good, but
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there's also juststraightforward storytelling
where you don't necessarily haveto be surprised at the end. No,
which I think it did. It didn'ttry to hide anything.
Yeah, it it did surprise me,because I You're so used to this
universe in which spoil it, butlike the the person who should
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be the one who lives at the endis always the one who lives at
the end. And so I was like, Oh,Thank fuck. Okay. Thank you for
not going that direction. Iappreciated that. I liked how
who who ended up being there atthe end, but I didn't like the
choices that were made at thatpoint. I was like, Why the fuck
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did we do that? That makes nosense to me right now. Like it
really felt like a hollow choiceto take the character that we
spent all that time developing aviewpoint for and then just
throw it all out the window. Iwas like, I guess that's a
statement, but it just it feltlike too easy of one.
Here's here's the way to fix iteasily. You know, the the Hey
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everybody, don't listen to this.
For me, if you haven't seen themovie, because I've talked about
the very end he, he pulls thegun on him. We cut to
black, yeah? Or what I wasreally hoping would happen. I
knew it wasn't going to. Theyboth stop walking. They're
televised. They're at the endpoint. They stand there and they
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say, they both say, My wish isthat, moving forward, that you
get, like, to have two winners,and then it's like they fucked
the system. They can't doanything about it. Some kids
something different thansomething different. And I know
that that might not be thepathetic ending, but it's a nice
hopeful. Yeah, it gives yousomething, and then it's such a
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better fuck you to the man inthat way and like, hey,
brotherhood matters. Friendshipmatters. Like, sacrificing
yourself isn't that strong of Ithink a friendship point. I
mean, okay, it's fine, but it'svery It also had been done
several times in the movie,yeah, yeah. It was not the first
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times. Also minor quibble, noneof these kids, except for a few,
looked like they were under theage of 18. To me,
they there's a point at thebeginning where somebody says, I
don'tthink he's 18, so I think they,
they were saying he's young, 16.
They're all supposed to be under18. And in the book, they're
like, 13. And I'm like, I getit. You show a bunch of kids get
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blown away. Do you notice thatcurly the very first kid who
gets it? That was JoJo rabbit.
Oh, he looked familiar. But Idid not.
I was like, that's what everykid should look like. He should
look that fucking young. Butoverall, I mean, if we're going
to put it in King adaptations,it's been a good, good year for
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King adaptation.
Yeah, I think monkey might havebeen even better of a movie, but
maybe not of an adaptation,because it's a short more fun to
watch.
For sure, yeah, for sure. Youknow, I'm going to. Take this
opportunity to then you guystalked about this and weapons in
your episode. And I would loveto say that I liked weapons a
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lot as well. And I don't know ifyou guys felt this at all, but I
thought it had a real, reallydark Ray Bradbury feel to it,
with the kids in danger, smalltown, yeah, all that stuff. I do
wish that some the threads hadbeen tied up a little bit, yeah.
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But otherwise I was like, Boy,what a, what a cool little
movie. Yeah? Scary, yeah.
Scary. Oddly funny. Oddly funny.
In places, yeah? And in oddplaces to, like, the end, yeah,
this is so much more humorous.
I have never rooted so hard for,like, the most horrific ending
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of somebody's life. But I waslike, yeah, go fucking get a
little girl.
Here's what I do. Need a weaponsverse, and they're already
talking about a prequel,who the witch was before.
No, don't care. Don't needgoddess.
Ambiguous. Ambiguous is that'sa great choice. Yes. The best
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part, not knowing who the fuckshe is, why she's there, how she
shows up in these weird dreamsand suddenly is sitting in a
principal's office, is like,what the fuck are you? Yeah,
like, perfect,quick tie back to the long walk.
But I think that's part of theproblem. Is Us story people
aren't big fans of ambiguousendings, ambiguity in the end of
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films. Yeah, you know, you theif, like, Iron Man snapped and
the movie ended. What that wouldbe wild. I mean, it wouldn't
workin that like when I got back
from that spider man and Irealized the film had ended off
cliffhanger, I still lost oneminute for
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we still haven't got that thirdfucking movie. I'm so mad.
I'm so endlessly mad about this.
Well, the guys from StrangerThings thinks that's good. See
that article where they'retalking about, oh, it's great
that it takes years betweenlike, no for you, for you,
you're doing a bunch ofyou need the production. I don't
remember what the fuck happenedand why I care. Alice in
borderland, thanks. Glad there'sanother season. Don't even
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remember why the fuck itmatters?
Wow, we have really got off therails here anyway, just to bring
it back, yeah, to long walk, Iguess so. And that could even be
a studio note at the ending was,you know, hey, we got to see
something pretty solid here. ButI think that they did the rest
of the story a disservice by a apretty predictable ending,
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sure. Oh, 100% I don't know why.
After they spent all that timetalking about his viewpoint,
they suddenly gets a gun anddoes the thing that his other I
don't, I don't get it. I don'tunderstand.
But Well, I mean, that's a bleakidea that, you know, all it took
was, yeah, less than a week tocompletely change his attempted
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fiveminutes, because he was still
holding on until, like that lastone little thing, and it, and
his friend does this great thingfor him, and then he's like,
Well, fuck, I don't careanymore. I guess I'm just gonna,
you're right. You couldn't seeeither. You gave up because you
couldn't see the world this way.
So I'm just not going to eithercool, but it was very
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depressing.
Let's take a break. We cancontinue arguing off air, can
we? And when we come back, we'reactually changing it up, and we
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We have returned. You know,guys, if anyone was paying any
attention, we were supposed totalk about films from 1986 this
episode. But we also got alovely donation by Kevin bird.
Thank you very much, Kevin andhe had requested that we throw
Alice Cooper into our sub genre,and we decided we were gonna pre
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empt. Yeah. I mean, we're sincewe're a lot more spaced out now,
if we pushed it back, thatstarts to get. A long
way, exactly right? It's true.
So we're going to be talkingabout Alice Cooper. I've got a
little bit of notes here onAlice Cooper. Oh, great. You
guys don't know who he is, yeah,not at all. Alice Cooper, born
Vincent fernier, is consideredto be the godfather of shock
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rock, drawing from horror filmsvaudeville and garage rock to
pioneer and macabre andtheatrical brand of rock and a
career that has spanned morethan five decades. The name
Alice Cooper was originally theband name that released seven
albums from 1969 to 1973 whenthe group disbanded in 75 he
changed his name legally toAlice Cooper and began a solo
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career with concept album,welcome to my nightmare, still
probably my favorite album ofhis great album, he released
several singles with varyinglevels of success in the 80s,
but in 1989 his careerexperienced a huge revival with
the album trash and the singlepoison. Since then, he has
managed to stay relevant bytouring almost constantly. He
continues to release new musicregularly, and his latest album
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came out this year. 2025 therevenge of Alice Cooper, the
first album since 73 to bereleased under the Alice Cooper
band, rather than as a soloartist. I happen to be a huge
Alice Cooper fan, and I wasdelighted when Kevin sent this
donation in and the suggestionAlice Cooper's so I'm gonna
start us offExcellent. All right, give
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yourself five minuteson the strange eons radio
buzzer. I am talking about the1980 classic roadie
Brody, starring meatloaf asTravis W red fish, that woman.
Oh, that woman thinks I'm someguy
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named roadie. Red Fish can fixhim. Get me two
beers and a hoof hemp. Red Fishcan fix anything I need a
Ford why he's the best roadie inthe whole world. Fans make it
rough, but the roadies make itroll. Roadie starring meatloaf.
Art cardi, hi everybody. KhakiHunter,
I'm a groupie on my way to NewYork City to become the greatest
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groupie that ever lived. Brody,you got the right idea. I love
outlaws.
Alice Cooper, Alice Cooper,she's one of Charlie's Angels.
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Get him.
Brody, the ultimate rock androll fantasy.
He's a champion the eons ofroadies in a rock and roll car
or a rock and roll bar. He's theclosest thing there is to a rock
and roll star,strange and wondrous tail, BP,
rage and wondrous Roadies.
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The bands make it rock, but theroadies MAKE IT Pro.
Thank you very much. And goodnight,
directed by Alan Rudolph, whohas directed terror circus
return engagement, The SecretLives of dentists, and written
by Big Boy Medlin, MichaelVentura and Zalman King, the
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only name on here who actuallyhas any kind of career, Zalman
King wrote Nine and a half weekstwo, Moon junction, wild orchid
and the red shoes. Trend there,yeah, starring Marvin, a day
Meatloaf From The Rocky HorrorPicture Show out of bounds,
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Wayne's World and Fight Club.
Also in this is khaki Hunter,who is in Porky's Porky's too
the next day, Porky's revengelike Pee Wee and art Carney,
obviously, from thehoneymooners, fire starter
muffins. Take Manhattan, thelast action here though, the
Late Show WWE and the Dixiedance kings, Harry and Tonto and
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the Star Wars. Holiday Special,excellent. Also in this movie is
a bevy of cameos from musicians,Don Cornelius, Roy Orbison, Hank
Williams, Jr, Debbie, Harry Kurtwood Smith is in this Peter
Frampton, Johnny Winter andAlice Cooper and the entire
Alice Cooper band guys meetTravis W red fish, Texas, good
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old boy and delivery driver forshiner beer. He's a whiz at
fixing things, and he loveshelping his dad, corpus see
redfish with the family salvagecompany. It is a strange world
he lives in, and we get to seeit all in the initial setup, his
dad basically lives in a bigarmchair with an automated arm
that travels him throughout thehouse and which is just full of
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ridiculous contraptions thathe's built. Also there is
Travis's best friend, Bibi, whohas the hots for Travis's Sister
Alice. One day, while Travis andbebe are making deliveries, they
come across an RV broken down onthe side of the road, and Travis
is immediately smitten by awoman from the RV, Lola, so he
decided. Kids to stop and helpremember he is a whiz at fixing
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things. After repairing the RV,Lola talks him into traveling
with the guys she's with who areroad managers for some band. And
Lola also tells Travis all aboutthe person she's hoping to meet
one day one Alice Cooper, Travissays he's never heard of her,
but he'd be happy to travel withhim. He goes with them to a
rough and tumble bar, where heimpresses everyone by setting up
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the sound equipment better thananyone they've ever seen. Later,
he gets into a bar fight andgets hit on the head and put
into a dazed state called Brainlock. While he's confused, the
road manager convinces him tokeep traveling with them so he
can take advantage of Travis'salmost supernatural skills with
tech equipment. Not too hard toconvince him, though, because he
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has fallen in love with Lola andwill help her meet Alice Cooper.
Along the way, he continues toimpress other bands and their
managers, gets in and out of bigtrouble, and even manages to
flirt successfully with DebbieHarry. But when he and Lola have
a blowout argument, after hetells her he loves her, he drags
her to Alice Cooper's show inNew York City, and tries to
leave her with him so she canfulfill her groupy dreams.
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However, Alice has heard ofTravis's reputation and
convinces him to stay longenough to fix the problems with
Alice's sound system. In return,Alice buys him a bus to drive
himself back to Texas, and givesLola VIP treatment with a front
row seat backstage access andthe promise of a romantic
evening. Travis is heartbroken,but he has just found out that
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his best friend and his sisterare getting married back in
Texas, so he races home toattend, even though Lola is
pleading for him to stay. Afterall, will Lola finally realize
that it's a Travis she wants tobe with? Will Travis get a phone
call from her during hissister's wedding, telling him
she has given up her groupiedreams and is waiting at a
nearby Texas bus stop for him,and as they consummate their
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relationship in the back ofTravis's new bus, will they be
interrupted by an alienspacecraft suddenly arriving,
allowing Lola to use long,dormant psychic powers to sense
that The UFO is broken, and thealiens want Travis to fix it.
Whoa.
And did I watch the wrong movie?
This movieis quite silly, but I've always
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loved it, and I think Kevin Byrdwould also appreciate this weird
little oddity in Alice Cooper'scareer trivia, both Alice Cooper
and meatloaf will appeartogether again 12 years later in
Wayne's World, Travis's house atthe beginning of the movie is
the same house used in the TexasChainsaw Massacre. And Travis W
red fish was originally createdby Texas writer Big Boy Medlin
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for a newspaper column. That isthe extent of his writing
credit. This is the firstappearance of Kurt wood Smith in
a movie bitches leave. Wow.
It's where you sit there withthat timer in the bathroom and
read, gone, I'mback, baby. That's how it's
done.
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Vanessa, oh, God, would you liketo go next? No, but I will
five minutes for you.
Okay, well, I went with a 1984horror film, monster dog.
It's 20 years later, and VinceRaven is going home. He's hoping
for a new beginning, but somehowhe can't escape the horror of
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his past. Youand now things are really
getting hairy.
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Sometimes I'mJames Bond. Sometimes I feel
like Sherlock. SometimesI feel like Jack. I image today,
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you people say it's only.
Legend. Butno matter how real the story, a
legend can't kill.
Is he human,or is he master of the dogs? The
terror of your worst nightmareis about to be
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unleashed, monster dog.
This is also starring AliceCooper, who has 77 credits,
including Wayne Jesus Christ,superstar live in concert, and
as we have talked about on theshow Prince of Darkness. This is
written and directed by Claudiofragaso, 32 credits, including
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troll, two zombie, three rats,night of terror and the seven
magnificent Gladiators, alsostarring alongside Alice Cooper
and several Spanish actors whoseem to be pretty big, Ricardo
Palacios, who has 172 credits,Victoria Vera, who has 53 and
BARDA Berry, who has 134including horror Express
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Treasure Island. But I don'tknow most of the titles of these
people, so I just assume thatyou see them on the screen and
you're in Spain, and you go,cool. I know you. The plot is
Vince Raven, a famous singer isheading to his childhood home, a
remote mansion in Spain, toshoot a music video with his
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friends. He is not Spanish. Heis just an American guy. They
just so happen to be there, justalso so happens to be a killer
pack of dogs out on the loose asthey approach his home, a thick
fog takes over, and the policestop them to warn them of what's
going on. They continue on theirway, promising to go straight
there and find weapons. Butalong the way, they hit a dog,
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and when they get out, they areconfronted by a large, unusual
looking dog in the woods, whothen disappears, however,
reappearing in his stead is anold man who comes out covered in
wounds and tells them that theywill all die. So they go back to
the house, settle in and findthe place oddly empty, despite a
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giant welcome home sign outside,one of the girls in his group
dreams a nightmare where theyall die and that Vince is a
werewolf. He later confides inhis girlfriend that his father
was killed by the locals becausethey believed him to be a
werewolf. While he is out doingsome music video shenanigans and
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the friends are back at thehouse, his neighbors come by
with guns and threaten to killall his roadies, but Vince
arrives and begins taking themout one by one, just as the dog
pack also arrives. Is he awerewolf or is he just a cool
guy that the dogs happen tolike? Watch monster dog to find
out if you can find it, whichyou can't, you have to find a
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weird Russian website that'sstreaming it randomly, and
that's the way that you will geta hold of this film. Wow.
Thoughts. This has a music videoat the start and at the end.
That is a identical song withslightly different footage, one
of which recapping the film. Itis so bad.
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So it's not Alice Cooper song.
Itis an Alice Cooper song. It is
an Alice Cooper song. It is sofucking god awful. It has very
little to do with the movie,other than he could be James
Bond. He could be in disguise.
He could be anybody. Oh, it's sobad. The effects and practical
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in this film are fun enough. Ithink it kind of helps it move
along. But the actual plot andbudget of this piece lacks. It
is, it is just, there's no pointreally in the film. But other
than going Alice Cooper, you gotsome makeup, you know, that's,
that's anyway, he's also justabout, unfortunately in this
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film, the most uncool guy youhave ever met. He is not the
cool rock star that you know andlove. The women in this,
however, are hot, but I amdefinitely not convinced that
his girlfriend is in quote,unquote, electronic video
technician, expert that sheclaims to be. I just don't buy
it. A little bit of trivia, noneof the actors dubbed their own
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lines. The only time that AliceCooper's real voice is heard
during this are the two musicalsequences. Oh, wow. The rest of
it is the dialog in the Englishversion, dubbed by Ted Russ,
known for 43 things, includingpassion, the Christ 26 episodes
of Johnny Soko and his flyingrobot, and 104 episodes of Coco
Bill Alex. Alex Cooper had beenan alcoholic for his entire
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adult life, and he developed acocaine habit in the late 70s.
His music career dwindled andhis health was jeopardized. He
finally made the decision to getsober in 83 The same year, the
record label dropped him,leaving him unsure of his
professional future when he wasasked to start. Are in this low
budget film. He perceived it asan opportunity to get back to
work again, and signed on withthe understanding that the movie
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would not be released outside ofthe Philippines, which is fair.
I That makes a lot of sense. Thescene in which the dogs chase
the girls up a staircase, I'mrusty. What can I say? Chase the
girls up a staircase wasintended to be shot in a single
take because the dogs had beendeprived of food, and the
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actresses were genuinely afraidthat they'd become a meal.
Halfway through the scene, theonset still photographer shouted
stop, because he'd run out offilm and needed to reload this
anchored director Claudiofragaso Fragasso, so he took one
of the loaded shotguns used inthe movie and chased the
photographer around the set,firing shots in the air as he
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hurled obscenities at him. Fromthat point on, the Spanish crew
began referring to fragrassio asEl director loco, the crazy
director, which he found veryamusing. Director Claudio
fragreso asked Alice Cooper towrite two songs for the film. 15
days before photographycommenced, Cooper rushed to
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write the songs and the recordlabel the record temp demo
tracks, which were ultimatelyutilized in the final cut of the
film. The songs were laterincluded in the CD box set the
life and crimes of Alice Cooper.
I have to admit, I have alwayswanted to watch this movie, and
the the trailer has stopped mebecause it looked so goddamn
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cheap.
Oh, it's very cheap. I wouldsay, You know what? You have
enough alcohol or drugs in you,it'll fly by. I do.
When you said that, said youhave enough
trucks in your system, you'll befine. I want to make
assumptions, but now it's justthat even his voice was dubbed.
It's, it's,I didn't know. I thought he just
was dubbed like everybody wasdubbed because, you know, it's
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Spanish, and that's just the wayof certain places. And then
later, when I read that, I waslike, Oh, I wonder what he
actually sounds like? He soundslike this? Well, no, he does
not. He sounds like a nerd.
Well, he does kind of sound likea nerd, especially,
especially now, well now withhis golfing
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monster dog, okay, Eric, whatdid you pick? Fucking hell.
Sorry, Eric, my joyful viewingpleasure was 2012 Bigfoot.
You have had another all night.
Ride with the one, the onlyHenderson. We got two days to
clear all those trees.
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This festival is destroying 50acres of South Dakota forest.
The desecration stops now.
You just couldn't stay out of myspotlight. Could you get
the National Guard natureattacked us in self defense?
Whoa. What's the job we're gonnakill big picking up something on
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the infrared.
Hope that's gonna be big enough.
Only reason you want to kill bigto piss me off.
What is this? A hoot, Nanny, youneed to pull eons. Strike on the
top of Mount Rushmore.
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I wish your mother were here.
A made for TV movie directed byBruce Davidson, whose main thing
is Harry and the Henderson's TVshow, Bigfoot related TMI
holiday Hollywood, somethingcalled off season, but not the
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one I thought right writtenBrian binkman, who wrote meter
apocalypse. He has 55 editingcredits though, Mitch Oh, Robert
rature, also Meteor apocalypseand hey, mega shark versus
chronosaurus, five episodes of ZNation and Predator killer of
killers. I see where this isgoing. This stars. Danny
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badaducci, oh boy, you know, Iknow him from the Petra
Partridge Family, Corvettesummer or Partridge Family, 2200
eons and Barry Williams, oh, mygod. Greg Brady, from 117
episodes of The Brady Bunch andnine, nine episodes of The Brady
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Bunch variety show. And ofcourse, 17 episodes of the Brady
kids. Bruce Davidson, who'spretty good X Men, earth's final
hour last summer. Willard, 286credits, is he also the
director?
Did I read the Bruce Davidson?
No, Brian Brinkman or Okay, no,yes, he is. Oh, dude, why'd you
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do that to yourself?
Yeah? I was like, it can't bethe same actor, who's awesome.
He's a great actor, and he's thebest actor in this movie. Also,
Sherilyn Finn and Howard HessmanJesus Christ. Rentless do
this as Sharknado level effects,as they bring out the Bigfoot,
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who is so fucking huge. He iswaist high to a motor home at
some point, which he picks upand tears apart. He picks people
up and bites their heads off andstuff like that. He is, in no
way, a and when he walks, it'slike the earth shakes with every
footstep. So that's okay. Thisis not a creature that's hiding
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anywhere.
Oh, man, that is a big footDanny, but adjushes plays a
radio host show, talk show,who's putting on a special
concert of eons bands to comeback together and play at this,
whatever small freaking townthis is, I think it's in South
Dakota. And Greg Beatty pays aguy who wants to preserve the
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area, to protect, initially, thewilderness, but then the Bigfoot
when he finds out about it,which he does change his mind on
that one when he actually seesit. But Bruce and Sherrilyn Finn
play the cops. Hessman is themayor, and let's see, where can
I go with this? Oh, andapparently, Danny and Barry were
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in a band together that was realbig, but they broke up, and
Barry's pissed about Danny,that's that's why you want to
destroy my concert. Because, youknow, like we broke up, stupid
shit. The first scene where theguys are yelling at each other
had to have like, 20 bloopersbecause they look like they're
trying not to crack up whilethey're yelling. My god, I'm a
tolerable person of shittyfilms. We all know this, right?
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Yes, Jesus Christ, asylum wouldgo, man, we can't put this
fucker out.
What part does it sounds like?
It has to be an asylum film. Butwhat part does Alice play? Here
comes, okay?
And the concert venue starts.
It's supposed to be, you know,the giant, 1000s of people, and
it looks like a couple risersfrom a local high school with
some shit put around it to looklike, like trestles and stuff.
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It's just ridiculous. And thecrowd is about 40 people shown
from different angles trying tomake it look like they're more.
Alice Cooper is behind the stageyelling, what's going on? This
is crap. I can't perform. Aaronlike it's under contract. You'll
perform. He's the guest, andlike, Barry's supposed to sing.
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So Barry comes out, he startssinging. That ends in like 30
seconds, and then Alice Cooper,the star comes out. So I don't
know what the hell the otherbands were. There weren't any.
He did say Proko haram andharem, and harem and sting are
stuck at the airport,but harem that'd be stuck there
for 40 fucking years exactly.
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And Alice does manage to mentionhe has a book out on golf. And
then he comes on stage andthinking, well, they'll at least
have an Alice Cooper song. No,whoever put this movie together
paid Alice, but would not payhim enough to use one of his
songs. So in what has to be fiveto seven minute segment as
they're cutting between him andthe Bigfoot starting to attack
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the concert is just this weirdrepetition of canned, kind of
metal sounding music, and Alicegoing, and you keep waiting, and
it sounds like it a song, Andthen it just starts up again,
going, Jesus Christ, man.
So, yeah, this was not good.
You chose poorly. Oh, my God,but
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that's the biggest note I couldcome up with, that Danny and
Barry did a celebrity boxingmatch, and when Danny beat up
Barry in the boxing match, yeah,so I should have watched Dallas
Cooper concert or something,yeah, or maybe a conglomeration
of all his commercial worksomeplace. He's got some of
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those Japan or something.
Vanessa probably doesn't knowthis, but Eric knows that we
were subjected to Danny ducci onour airwaves for about 12 years.
He was the morning guy for Kc,okay, radio, oh,
that's why I didn't listen toKC, okay.
(01:04:36):
Or was it? KSW, whatever it was,I was I was just like, well, I
will never listen to thisstation while he is on. He is
such an annoying little troll.
However, got very sick and hasretired lives in Florida now, so
I hope he's at least comfortablein his sickness and doing what
he can to feel better, right?
Don't watch your old movie.
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Okay, Danny, because I know.
You're gonna listen.
The one thing I will say abouthim is he is very aware of who
he is, yeah. The other thing is,he's very proud of who Yes, that
too, yeah. But, well,he tried, I would tell you he
was putting his effort. Yeah.
God damn. I can't imaginewatching him in a lead role and
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Bruce Davidson directing, whatthe fuck?
But you can tell I walked intothis film was that I did
connect. The actor is thedirector of the same person,
yeah, when you said it starredhim too, I was like, this, can't
be Bruce Davidson, who's been inblockbuster movies. Oh yeah.
And he, honestly, he was thebest guy, which is, you know,
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sometimes when directors directthemselves, that doesn't go real
well.
Yeah, somebody had some fuckingpictures of him.
How else to explain somethinglike this?
Well, there you guys have it.
Alice Cooper, thank you, Kevin.
Sort ofthe upfront part. Thanks. It was
great. I'll pick a differentmovie. Good that your movie
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sound great. I mean, it'sstupid, really stupid, but it is
a lot of fun.
Okay, well, so, and then wealready know that I had chosen
1986 so we'll do that for thenext episode. Excellent. So that
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means that this is the partwhere we say, hey, thanks
everybody. Thanks Kevin bird fordonating something. You know, if
you want to donate something andrequest us to do a movie, that's
how you guys did the convent,too, right? Yep. So we're more
than happy to look at a film, ifthat's what it takes to get you
to send us a moolahor, you know, a topic is even
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better.
We don't have to watch yourshitty convent movie.
Thank you. Micah,it's called value for value. If
you get some kind of value outof this, then give some value
back, and that includes likingand sharing posts, commenting,
thanks, Jeffrey, get better onthe YouTube videos. All of that
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stuff is some kind of value. Idon't understand how the
algorithm works, but I do knowthat the more you interact with
it, the more other people seeit. Yeah, it's true.
Watching the 100 Days of horrorthat I'm post posting, so
probably this come out, we'llstill have a couple weeks left
of that that's on the Facebooktalk page. And then is there
anywhere else that you've beenposting that
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100 Days of horror Facebookgroup and my Instagram?
Excellent.
Very nice. And Vanessa, whereelse can they reach us.
You guys can also reach us onstrange eons radio hotline,
which is 253-237-4266, you canleave us a voicemail. You can
send us a text message. We wouldlove to hear from you, ideally
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let us know that it's okay touse it, but regardless, we will.
That's right. You chose todial. You knew what you were
getting into, right? Yes,all right, guys, how about we
reconvene in two short weeks,and we are talking about films
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Now I'm gonna be a bit paranoid about it.
Oh, I'm sorry. Did I break yourconcentration
somewhere between science andsuperstition.
(00:22):
So such sights to show you.
Strange eons. Welcome to strangeeons. Radio that is Eric over
there, hello, that is Vanessaover there. Hello, and I am
Kelly, Hey, gang. We've beendoing this every other week
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thing for a while, and you know,part of the reason was I really
wanted to focus on my writing. Ihad all these other things going
on. Let me tell you what'sactually happened briefly. My
dad has gotten very, very sickand does not have a long time
left, and so I'm spending, likemy weekends up in Bellingham
(01:04):
with my dad right now. And mywork, we had kind of a bit of a
tragedy there with one of theboss's kids. And I am now also
kind of running a company that Idid not want to ever own or run
my Jesus. So my writing notexactly happening. Although
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second edition of string ofsecret language of spiders is
available, the only differenceis the it contains the original
screenplay. The book is basedon, if that's interesting to
you, this is available now, thefirst edition still available.
So, and I have been writing alittle bit, and I think I'll
have something before the end ofthe year, but that's kind of why
(01:47):
I've been a little out of touchand off the internet and doing
this every other week thing. ButI really appreciate you guys
jumping in with an extra episodeevery once in a while.
Yeah, sounded like one I need toput on my list. Yeah, I
think you would enjoy it. No,remember the humor
recommendation? Oh, yeah,yes, having a good time.
(02:13):
Well, I really big ass spider isa movie I fucking love, yeah, so
and I think I even have spokenabout it on this show. So
finding out that that was thesame director has made that
something that I would like tocheck out. It's fun.
It's it's more fun than the onethat it's almost identical to.
The, yeah, the stupid, oh mygod, I'm forgetting the kids
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demon night.
It's though, the one with thelipstick into the
Oh, Night of the demon. Nightdemons. Okay, yeah, yeah, Night
of the demons, no. And it's funthrowing a party and you're all
invited. That's right, that'sbetter than the entire film,
right? There. You should go seeall the sequels, if I can just
record that and play thatanytime somebody volunteers that
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I should see that film and belike, Oh, nope, I'm good again.
Thank you.
Also want to, I mean, this willcome out, hopefully everything
all right, but a little getbetter. Badger heard some stuff
that he's going through. Sohopefully you get through all of
that by the time you hear this.
Yeah, really, yeah. I heard thatJeffrey was not doing very well,
(03:22):
or, as Vanessa refers toGeoffrey,
when did I do that? I'm sorry.
And and I was like, Wait asecond, you have to get better
quickly. Because without himright there watching the
episodes on YouTube, when theycome out and commenting, it
looks like nobody's watching.
(03:42):
We've got a couple other folkswho chime in every once in a
while, grab the mantle, comeforth.
It's just funny, because we havelike 1000s of views on those
YouTube videos, but only badgercomments. And I'm like, is it
all Russian bots? Who's I'lltake them, if it's bots and
Russians are listening, up itget us up. You know, put us at
(04:04):
100 grand. If it's all but bots,nobody cares.
Yeah, it's true.
Another thing I want to show youguys is our regular listener and
friend of the show and friendBob, supplied us with this
lovely book, VHS video coverart, which is fucking gorgeous.
(04:26):
It is something else, Bob. Thankyou so much for this. I got to
see Bob very little at theLovecraft Film Festival last
weekend, yep. But Bob. Love you.
Thank you so much. I've beenpaging through this, and I think
we might do something with thisa little later. Oh, it's very,
very cool. So if anybody else islooking at I mean, I It's a
(04:48):
coffee table book. I can't evenreally show you how cool this
is, but it's just page afterpage of full color art of the
full box art of a VHS thing.
It's really. Gorgeous.
And that's just, yeah, it's oneof those things that is lost to
time. But yeah, you know, thefact that people would get these
crazy, epic, you know, box artdone for their VHS is that had
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most of the time nothing to dowith their movie, but looked so
effing cool. It's just, it'sneat that somebody took the time
to collaborate that and put itin a book.
I was also looking at a coupleof these, like one of the and I
can't remember the name of thevideo, but one of them is
clearly a rip off of the coverof Cobra. And it is, it's like
the Enforcer, or something likethat, but it's the Enforcer too.
(05:35):
And it says the man is back,clearly looks like Stallone
holding a gun. And I was like,wow, this is pretty blatant.
Put that right next to theCobra.
Asylum was not the first, No,certainly not. Oh, man. How is
the Lovecraft Film Festival, bythe
way? Yeah, it was good. I got tosee a little more actually, than
(05:57):
I normally do, and mostimportant for me is always to
hang out with people that I onlyget to see at the Lovecraft Film
Festival, and I did a lot ofthat, Eric, you were there for a
couple of days and leave becausea once in a lifetime opportunity
had presented itself to you.
The originally, it's always inOctober. So last winter deed and
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I bought concert tickets to ourfavorite artists. And it had a
fun full circle kind of thing toit in that the first concert we
ever went to was one of his, andit was at this location. So
like, Oh, cool. We go thereagain. So yeah, I had to leave
early on Sunday because they hadto move the Lovecraft festival.
(06:41):
But the two days I was there,it was good, good
time. Plus, I mean, who knowswhen you'd ever get to see
Darius Rucker again, except forevery time he's shown up since
that first time and every timeafter this time, if you're
gonna go by that way, I've beento the Lovecraft quest festival
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23 times. The ratio is muchhigher in favor of Lovecraft.
It's a good point.
Well, I'm looking forward to theday where I can leave my home
enough to, oh yes, venturesomewhere, where I can be a
night away, yeah, from mypremises, and maybe go and visit
again.
How are things at home? Oh,little one.
(07:26):
Oh, so they they tell you, theytell you this a lot, right? When
you have a kid, that if you goto daycare, they will get sick,
like a lot, and you're like,okay, cool, flu, maybe some
covid or RSV, like, I don't knowthere's gonna be shit that's
gonna pop up you're prepped, andthen they'll get something so,
(07:46):
like, weird and historically,like, it sounds like a medieval
disease. So my daughter had afever, and then she started
like, like, liquid just pouringout of her mouth constantly,
like a Xenomorph, like youcouldn't there was puddles with
where she was walking. And I waslike, Oh God, her final teeth
(08:08):
must be coming in. Like, that'swhat that is. And so I kept
telling everyone, oh yeah, she'steething. She's teething. And
then I noticed this crazy rashthat had a bunch of like, pimple
like dots all over it, and IGoogled it, and there's this
very contagious childhooddisease called Hand, Foot and
Mouth, where you get rashes inyour hand, foot, mouth and some
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other potentially delicateplaces. Yeah, and it just is
rampant in daycares. Like, I hadnever heard of this. Like I'd
heard a chicken pox. I had notheard of fucking hand, foot and
mouth. It. Most adults don't getit. My husband, however, did get
it. So that poor motherfucker,he was developing the sores and
(08:57):
like you can't you have it forseven to 10 days, so she
couldn't go to daycare for abouta week. And then once I informed
them, and was like, Hey, shepicked this up from you guys.
They then put out all thesenotices, and then there was all
these, like emails about properhygiene and going around,
because it's just so supercontagious. I did not get it, so
(09:20):
somehow it passed me by thistime.
Yeah, thanks for this, tellingus this now, after you've shown
up in my house, oh,no, she's she even she's passed
it. It's, yeah, we're good.
We're very good. But yeah, soshe's doing great. Now she's
such a joy when she's not justso fucking miserable, like we
watched so much frozen and Elmoand just let her curl up and
(09:45):
feel like shit for days,glad that has receded.
Yes, yes, I will say, though themedieval diseases are alive and
well with us, and you won't knowit until you're around a little
person.
Yeah. Well, let's, let's diveinto some movies. Guys, I have
seen a few things. You guys haveseen a few things, and here we
(10:08):
go. I saw the conjuring lastrites. Oh my God, was it helped
to make it the biggest openingof the franchise.
I bet it deserved itso better by far than the last
two, which is a low bar, nowherenear the heights of the first
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two. So it was fine,kind of like most of the
conjuring. Andthis very well could have been
called the conjuring a newbeginning, because their
daughter has married a guy, andthey get pulled into this, this
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new case. I was like, This justmade them the most money any of
their movies has, and they'regonna be like, well, that's the
last one. Guys no reason want toput out another conjuring movie,
right? 100% although I did seethat HBO has a conjuring series
going to be starting up the theearly years.
(11:16):
How? So?
This zombified horse willcontinue to be beaten
until every last penny is rungout of it.
Do you think it's near, like thetop, best ones, or like the
bottom tier? Because there'sbeen, what, six of these. Now,
five of these?
Well, if you count the conjuringuniverse, I think there's 12
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movies.
Yeah, I guess I'm just justwondering conjuring, like, just
the married, I think this is thesixth one. Okay,
that's just the conjuring. Thefirst one, still the best,
I think. So I think that that'sgot some really nice scares and
an ending that is, is very scaryand not blockbuster. Yeah,
(12:01):
exactly, yeah. You know thesecond one then ends with Ed
hanging off of a post, off of abuilding and everything. You're
like, wow, this has escalatedvery quickly.
I think we would have heardabout ghosts that did
that seen the second one. I'veseen random ones, but the 100
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days has allowed me to see allof them, 100 days of horror,
Aces and The Conjuring as a youknow, if you stack them all up,
conjurings are the best. Ithink,
yeah, I would agree that. Imean, I think I like that first
insidious better than any otherconjuring. But the first one,
yeah, because there's somethingabout how fucking wacky that
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movie is that I really like gooff the edge of the cliff really
quickly.
So anyway, Conrad, last rightsavailable to rent,
I have caught up now onpeacemaker,
yeah, are you guys? Have youseen no,
oh yeah. Last episode, itwent finally where I thought it
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was gonna go, yeah. So I'm gladfor that, because I listened to
a podcast where they talk aboutspecifically superhero stuff,
and they were like, maybe itwon't do the most obvious
possible thing. And I was like,it should just do the most
obvious possible thing. Theuniverse has a problem in it. It
seems like that problem mighteach episode you get a little
(13:26):
bit more like, Hmm, it's missingsomething here. Yeah.
I mean, we knew that the otherdimension was too good to be
true. Yeah. I think my favoritepart was Harcourt in it, like,
notices immediately what isgoing wrong. And, yeah, and if
you kind of contrast that withPeacemaker driving down the
(13:49):
street and smiling ateverybody so stoked, waving at
the little boy, yeah, I lovethat. I love the things that
don't come to him that everyoneelse is like, wait a minute and
seeing what's what's the guy,his little buddy, vigilante
meeting himself is my favoritepart of that episode.
(14:12):
So pretty, pretty good stuff,his whole secret room, where he
has maybe a billion dollarsworth of drugs and cash. And
he's like, I'm not gonna spendthis. This is blood money, and
I'm watching them all jam downthere. Yeah, it's a, it's a
great show. Only two episodesleft in this season, yeah, oh,
(14:34):
it'snot done yet. Cool. Yeah, no,
there's still, yeah, still someto come. So I'm really excited
to see what happens. You know,who's gonna live, who's gonna
die, what the hell they're gonnado with this, this place, I'm
pretty stoked. So big,big cameo scene
that ties it into this. Oh, myGod.
(14:55):
All right, yes, there was I, theCAMEO. I. Thought that
particular actor was not nearlyas good in this cameo as they
were in the film that they werein though, oh, I was kind of
like, Oh, all right, fine. Imean, he's in prison now. TV
lighting. Things aren't goingnow TV, TV, sound design, TV, it
(15:18):
just lit. Everything is justpulled back a little. It was
like, I'll be excited when weget to the next movie. That'll
be great. But, yeah, I do likethe James Gunn is, like, it's a
shared universe. It's gonna be afucking shared universe, like
people are gonna show the fuckup, which is really nice.
Oddly enough, the WB arrow SuperGirl series did that really well
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too. You know, we're all here.
We're all gonna run into eachother at times.
That's nice. That is reallygood, because it's always really
upsetting when you're like, waita minute, this huge global
disaster occurred and noone can from the other man's the
only one fighting.
It seems wrong. Yeah, and Marvelis especially, like, guilty of
this. Yeah, it's it can be veryinfuriating to me when I'm like,
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really a giant floating being,like, went over the planet's
surface and only the Eternalsstanding on Hampstead Heath went
Yes, okay, well, to bring it allstaggering back to Earth with a
film that I saw at the LovecraftFestival this year.
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Edgar Allen post, the ovalportrait
in similar in Lovecraft. This isa entire movie based on a two
page story.
I was not familiar with thisstory, and I didn't see the
film.
It it's quite good. It isunabashedly romantic in some
ways, with the if you like theleads, this is one of those
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movies. If you like the leads,you're gonna like the movie. If
either of the leads bug you, itmight be a big old slog to get
through. But I thought they wereboth wildly entertaining and
very interesting with, you know,depth, not this is my life.
You're never really gonna learnanything new about me. I am a
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dislikable person. What's thestory?
The idea is, there's a guy whoruns a appointment only antique
shop, and he runs into a woman,not of this time, not of the
time she's in. It's modernsetting, so there's all the
stuff and all the things, butthe lead lady in it doesn't have
(17:40):
a cell phone, checks her emailat the library, and is a
classical painting painter, andthere is a oval portrait that a
rich guy wants to be stolen, andeach person who tries to steal
it starts right at thebeginning, gets killed. And so
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that's what the story is about.
That sounds cool.
It's it's pretty good. I alwayshave weird things with festival
viewings where sometimes, like Iwill really like this. Now, will
I like it outside of theatmosphere that especially
Lovecraft creates such anatmosphere, yeah, well, I still
really like it, but I think Iwould so well recommended that
(18:26):
when it comes out, I'm sureit'll be a while.
Were you able to catch that Kingand yellow short film? I did
not. Oh boy. It is good, which,yeah, I need to. It was a short.
It was three people. It was astudent film, which I was just
like, Jesus Christ, these guysare gonna fucking become huge
just and the idea of the kingand yellow is the the play that,
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if you watch it in its entirety,it drives you mad. And there's
really no way to to adapt thatbook into a film idea, because
the background is that story,and then the books in the king
in yellow are varying degreesof, you know, unreliable
narrator in a slightlyfuturistic world and stuff like
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that. And it's just like, okay,not gonna happen. So I think the
way to adapt the king in yellowis to do this background of the
story and then tell a differentstory. Well, these three
students of the king in yellowhave decided that they're going
to each take a section of theplay and only read that, and
then they can discuss with eachother how it all comes apart,
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and they're very careful, andyou can't use names and all of
these rules and everything, butthen you find out one of them
has actually read all threeparts, yeah, and it's really,
really good. I was like, Wow, noawards, no awards for this film.
I did make it to one shortsblock and,
damn, yeah, really, really goodgroup of things, like six or
(19:57):
seven shorts. Yeah?
I got to see Daniel gildarks newshort film.
Who's fun when I wanted to seetoo.
Yeah, I didn't even know he wasup to something. I mean, of
course he is, but that'scool. Well, interestingly
enough, he has just finishedproducing a slasher film that
was shot up here. Oh, yeah. Sothat sounds really cool, too.
That's super cool. Danielgildart, the director of
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Cthulhu,I saw a movie called primitive
war.
Do not know this, nothing. I betyou saw the previews, though,
about the soldiers in Vietnamwho suddenly wander into an area
full of dinosaurs.
Oh yes, yes, they did see thetrailer. For this, their reason.
We didn't see anything muchafter that.
(20:40):
Well, it's not very good, but itis entertaining enough. Here's
the problem. All it needed to bewas American soldiers in Vietnam
wandering into an area full ofdinosaurs. And it, you know, the
story behind it is just way tooconvoluted. And there's there's
Russian agents there, there'swormholes, there's all of this
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stuff that just did not need tobe a part of the story. Also the
acting. The the main guy is thegood looking brother from True
Blood, sukis brother, I didn'tsee it true, okay? And I've
always thought he was a fineactor, not in this. And then the
female lead is the number sixCylon from Battlestar Galactica,
(21:26):
who I also thought was a goodactor, but not in this. But I
will say this, the dinosaurslook cool. And the third act is
everything that the movie shouldhave been. It's also like two
hours and 10 minutes long. Whydoes this movie need this much
story? So anyway, wait forrental or wait for free
(21:49):
streaming, and it's gonna befine, but
too much. There's a reason kindof disappeared.
Yeah, primitive war. Where isthat on? Well, it's not in, it's
not well, it should be rental bynow. I mean, there's nobody in
the theater so fair.
Well, I have been continuing tokind of chip away at strange new
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worlds. I'm not caught up yet,but just watched an episode that
featured and kind of centeredaround the character of Kirk,
and it continues. This seasoncontinues to be very weird, like
they it almost feels like everyepisode has a totally different
writer, or they're pivoting overand over again about, like,
(22:34):
where they're trying to go, whatthey're trying to do. And
they're very inspired by thefact that they got away with
that musical episode. And sothey just keep reaching for the
stars. And every once in allthere's a really good episode,
but I would say there's morerough ones than good ones. This
Kirk episode was very centeredaround the idea that he's number
(22:56):
one on a ship, and he strives tobe a captain, but it's just he
hasn't gotten the chance yet,and then all of a sudden he gets
the chance, and he basicallykind of freezes up, and at the
same time, a lot of the crewfrom the enterprise end up
helping him out. And so youessentially get the crew from
(23:16):
the original TOS workingtogether, and it just feels
little stunty. A little stunty.
It just feels Yeah, justperformative. I don't know if
that's the right word, but sure,yeah. It just doesn't flow. And
nothing quite makes sense withthe I don't know why the
characters are in the situationsthey're in right now. I don't
(23:38):
know why Spock is with theperson he's with. I and I don't
know, it's just been gettingpretty far off the rails this
season, but still better thandisco.
So discovery, oh, discovery.
Gonna say, How dare you sorryI haven't seen enough disc. The
only disc I saw was veryupsetting. So we have to do
(24:00):
another disco.
Will there be less rape? Becauseif so, maybe I'd be pretty
easily. That's avoidable in alot of disco. As you
know, I gave up on the seasonvery early on, and I realized
why, as you're talking they havereally embraced, like, the
(24:24):
nerdiest aspects of Star Trekand the nerdiest viewers, the
people who are gonna like themusical and the all the stunt
stuff and everything. Those arethe people I would not like to
run into at a convention or sitnext to at a party and all this
stuff. I'm like, God, you likethis episode? You know, I just
wanted good sci fi. And it feelsvery much like it's kind of
(24:48):
almost a comedy now,yeah, it definitely has a lot of
comedic strokes, and it's toughtoo, because I'm watching Star
Trek Next Gen at the same time.
So just watched a pretty. Midtier Star Trek Next Gen episode,
where Picard is stuck on theship. He goes to get a saddle
while the ship is supposed to becleaned. And it turns out that
(25:09):
there's a bunch of people tryingto, like, steal a bunch of shit
on the ship, and he has to sortof do a die hard in there. And
it's such a mid tier next genepisode, but so good, compared
to, oh no, everything you know,like, it has no point when you
get to the ending, it just kindof like, end ends, the end. And
(25:30):
you're like, Why did what wasthe purpose?
A big hit at this summer.
It was very cool. Like, I mean,I loved, like, watching Picard
be like a fucking badass allday, every day. I will sure I
love next gen to the moon andback. But it's funny because I
know, for that episode, I waslike, oh, you know this one's
(25:50):
okay, and blah, blah. Butcompared to strange new worlds,
it's like, okay, this isactually like, this is cinema.
This is trek. Oh, mywell, to move away from a highly
humorous one to I went to thetheater with Mr. Hollis, and we
caught the long walk. Yeah. Haveyou ever? Have you seen it?
(26:16):
Um, I saw it?
Yeah, on the convent, of course,yeah, Jesus Christ. You know,
it's kind of like study oftotalitarianism, friendship,
endurance, and they're crazythings, yeah, when I was
watching it, it's kind of like,this is good, and the trying to
(26:36):
get spoilery or anything, but somany people said the end was
devastating, which I did notfind at all. There's a lot of
devastating shit along the walkand some horrifically powerful
movement, and we've talkedseveral times on the show about
(26:58):
how annoying it is with a lot ofmodern horror films where
they're just not likable people,they show why that matters. The
some of the people on this areso likable, and you so want
these, yeah, people to be ableto continue, but you know, they
can't, which gives everythingthis sense of dread and tragedy
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almost before anything evenstarts. Yeah, even the two most
unlikable people on the walk youstill are so upset when they
they had depth. They weren'tjust this one guy's gonna be an
asshole and he'll get his, andthis other guy's gonna be an
arrogant Dick, and he'll get histhey were deep, way beyond just
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being that, which I thought waseven if it was briefly. I just
thought, yeah, this was really,really good.
I've been this is really stuckwith me. I think because, much
like the the friend characterPeter on the walk the black kid,
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like he talks about looking atthe world through this sort of
positive lens. And that'ssomething that I do a lot, yeah,
and it's really interesting,because it really ate hard at me
because of how it's so much workto do it. It's not like you're
just you click on andeverything's great, and you just
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see the world like that. Youhave to, like endlessly, choose
that. And I was definitelycrying at the end of that film,
because it is, it is sodifficult to watch as the world
crumbles around you, but you'retrying to just scoop out that
beauty. It was powerful.
The way I read, it was much moreof a different kind of powerful.
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I thought it's still a verypowerful ending. It wasn't, oh,
okay, yeah.
I thought the ending wastelegraphed way too long. You
know, there's basically twooptions. They talked about what,
what was going to happen, youwere like, Oh, well, this is
what's going to happen now.
Yeah, I liked it. This is one ofmy very favorite King books. He
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wrote this. This was his firstnovel before anything else was
published, and it was basicallyhim kind of lashing out about
the horrors of Vietnam andeverything. You can really see
that in this just, you know,wasting young lives. I heard you
talk about this on the miniepisode. Mark Hamill, I must
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disagree, horribly, horriblymiscast. I've hated him. He's
the problem is, he's an amazingvoice actor, and he's a So, so
actor, and he was a voice actorin this, which means he was just
way over the top andunbelievable and ridiculous. You
know, I was like, no, no, no.
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This needed to be somebody thatyou could actually kind of look
up to as maybe a father figureor something like that. That's
who he is in the book. Oh. Theworld kind of looks up to the
general as this man, and as thebook continues to be told, you
realize, holy shit, the worldhas gotten so bleak that this
guy is just very charismatic.
And you know, that's why this iseven being allowed to happen.
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And I just don't think that I assoon as he started talking in
his basically old Joker voice. Iwas like, no, no, no, no, no,
you have completely missed thischaracter.
Read the book since, like,whenever the Bachman books came
out. So I had no association tothat.
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I just it just took me out ofevery time he spoke. I was like,
this movie is so fucking heavythat He took me right out of it.
That makes a ton of sense to mewhat you're saying. Because when
I was viewing it, I was like,Oh, he's like a kind of
figurehead of the artifice ofAmerica. And it felt like such
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an uncle. Sam moved like poster,yeah, like walking around.
He was the image. He was not thebook.
He's like a comically largecharacter
could have been. I just didn'tthink that it worked for me. No,
that's fine.
I mean, that makes a lot ofsense.
The ending in the book is reallydifferent from this ending, and
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I'm not sure that you could filmthe ending in the book, because
it's, it's, it's kind of left upto you to decide what has
happened. You're like, Is heinsane? Did he live what you
know? So I wasn't sure how theywere going to do that, and I
didn't mind this ending. I wishit had happened in a way that
surprised me. Is all, I guess Imight have been good, but
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there's also juststraightforward storytelling
where you don't necessarily haveto be surprised at the end. No,
which I think it did. It didn'ttry to hide anything.
Yeah, it it did surprise me,because I You're so used to this
universe in which spoil it, butlike the the person who should
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be the one who lives at the endis always the one who lives at
the end. And so I was like, Oh,Thank fuck. Okay. Thank you for
not going that direction. Iappreciated that. I liked how
who who ended up being there atthe end, but I didn't like the
choices that were made at thatpoint. I was like, Why the fuck
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did we do that? That makes nosense to me right now. Like it
really felt like a hollow choiceto take the character that we
spent all that time developing aviewpoint for and then just
throw it all out the window. Iwas like, I guess that's a
statement, but it just it feltlike too easy of one.
Here's here's the way to fix iteasily. You know, the the Hey
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everybody, don't listen to this.
For me, if you haven't seen themovie, because I've talked about
the very end he, he pulls thegun on him. We cut to
black, yeah? Or what I wasreally hoping would happen. I
knew it wasn't going to. Theyboth stop walking. They're
televised. They're at the endpoint. They stand there and they
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say, they both say, My wish isthat, moving forward, that you
get, like, to have two winners,and then it's like they fucked
the system. They can't doanything about it. Some kids
something different thansomething different. And I know
that that might not be thepathetic ending, but it's a nice
hopeful. Yeah, it gives yousomething, and then it's such a
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better fuck you to the man inthat way and like, hey,
brotherhood matters. Friendshipmatters. Like, sacrificing
yourself isn't that strong of Ithink a friendship point. I
mean, okay, it's fine, but it'svery It also had been done
several times in the movie,yeah, yeah. It was not the first
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times. Also minor quibble, noneof these kids, except for a few,
looked like they were under theage of 18. To me,
they there's a point at thebeginning where somebody says, I
don'tthink he's 18, so I think they,
they were saying he's young, 16.
They're all supposed to be under18. And in the book, they're
like, 13. And I'm like, I getit. You show a bunch of kids get
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blown away. Do you notice thatcurly the very first kid who
gets it? That was JoJo rabbit.
Oh, he looked familiar. But Idid not.
I was like, that's what everykid should look like. He should
look that fucking young. Butoverall, I mean, if we're going
to put it in King adaptations,it's been a good, good year for
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King adaptation.
Yeah, I think monkey might havebeen even better of a movie, but
maybe not of an adaptation,because it's a short more fun to
watch.
For sure, yeah, for sure. Youknow, I'm going to. Take this
opportunity to then you guystalked about this and weapons in
your episode. And I would loveto say that I liked weapons a
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lot as well. And I don't know ifyou guys felt this at all, but I
thought it had a real, reallydark Ray Bradbury feel to it,
with the kids in danger, smalltown, yeah, all that stuff. I do
wish that some the threads hadbeen tied up a little bit, yeah.
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But otherwise I was like, Boy,what a, what a cool little
movie. Yeah? Scary, yeah.
Scary. Oddly funny. Oddly funny.
In places, yeah? And in oddplaces to, like, the end, yeah,
this is so much more humorous.
I have never rooted so hard for,like, the most horrific ending
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of somebody's life. But I waslike, yeah, go fucking get a
little girl.
Here's what I do. Need a weaponsverse, and they're already
talking about a prequel,who the witch was before.
No, don't care. Don't needgoddess.
Ambiguous. Ambiguous is that'sa great choice. Yes. The best
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part, not knowing who the fuckshe is, why she's there, how she
shows up in these weird dreamsand suddenly is sitting in a
principal's office, is like,what the fuck are you? Yeah,
like, perfect,quick tie back to the long walk.
But I think that's part of theproblem. Is Us story people
aren't big fans of ambiguousendings, ambiguity in the end of
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films. Yeah, you know, you theif, like, Iron Man snapped and
the movie ended. What that wouldbe wild. I mean, it wouldn't
workin that like when I got back
from that spider man and Irealized the film had ended off
cliffhanger, I still lost oneminute for
(36:56):
we still haven't got that thirdfucking movie. I'm so mad.
I'm so endlessly mad about this.
Well, the guys from StrangerThings thinks that's good. See
that article where they'retalking about, oh, it's great
that it takes years betweenlike, no for you, for you,
you're doing a bunch ofyou need the production. I don't
remember what the fuck happenedand why I care. Alice in
borderland, thanks. Glad there'sanother season. Don't even
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remember why the fuck itmatters?
Wow, we have really got off therails here anyway, just to bring
it back, yeah, to long walk, Iguess so. And that could even be
a studio note at the ending was,you know, hey, we got to see
something pretty solid here. ButI think that they did the rest
of the story a disservice by a apretty predictable ending,
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sure. Oh, 100% I don't know why.
After they spent all that timetalking about his viewpoint,
they suddenly gets a gun anddoes the thing that his other I
don't, I don't get it. I don'tunderstand.
But Well, I mean, that's a bleakidea that, you know, all it took
was, yeah, less than a week tocompletely change his attempted
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fiveminutes, because he was still
holding on until, like that lastone little thing, and it, and
his friend does this great thingfor him, and then he's like,
Well, fuck, I don't careanymore. I guess I'm just gonna,
you're right. You couldn't seeeither. You gave up because you
couldn't see the world this way.
So I'm just not going to eithercool, but it was very
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depressing.
Let's take a break. We cancontinue arguing off air, can
we? And when we come back, we'reactually changing it up, and we
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We have returned. You know,guys, if anyone was paying any
attention, we were supposed totalk about films from 1986 this
episode. But we also got alovely donation by Kevin bird.
Thank you very much, Kevin andhe had requested that we throw
Alice Cooper into our sub genre,and we decided we were gonna pre
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empt. Yeah. I mean, we're sincewe're a lot more spaced out now,
if we pushed it back, thatstarts to get. A long
way, exactly right? It's true.
So we're going to be talkingabout Alice Cooper. I've got a
little bit of notes here onAlice Cooper. Oh, great. You
guys don't know who he is, yeah,not at all. Alice Cooper, born
Vincent fernier, is consideredto be the godfather of shock
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rock, drawing from horror filmsvaudeville and garage rock to
pioneer and macabre andtheatrical brand of rock and a
career that has spanned morethan five decades. The name
Alice Cooper was originally theband name that released seven
albums from 1969 to 1973 whenthe group disbanded in 75 he
changed his name legally toAlice Cooper and began a solo
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career with concept album,welcome to my nightmare, still
probably my favorite album ofhis great album, he released
several singles with varyinglevels of success in the 80s,
but in 1989 his careerexperienced a huge revival with
the album trash and the singlepoison. Since then, he has
managed to stay relevant bytouring almost constantly. He
continues to release new musicregularly, and his latest album
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came out this year. 2025 therevenge of Alice Cooper, the
first album since 73 to bereleased under the Alice Cooper
band, rather than as a soloartist. I happen to be a huge
Alice Cooper fan, and I wasdelighted when Kevin sent this
donation in and the suggestionAlice Cooper's so I'm gonna
start us offExcellent. All right, give
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yourself five minuteson the strange eons radio
buzzer. I am talking about the1980 classic roadie
Brody, starring meatloaf asTravis W red fish, that woman.
Oh, that woman thinks I'm someguy
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named roadie. Red Fish can fixhim. Get me two
beers and a hoof hemp. Red Fishcan fix anything I need a
Ford why he's the best roadie inthe whole world. Fans make it
rough, but the roadies make itroll. Roadie starring meatloaf.
Art cardi, hi everybody. KhakiHunter,
I'm a groupie on my way to NewYork City to become the greatest
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groupie that ever lived. Brody,you got the right idea. I love
outlaws.
Alice Cooper, Alice Cooper,she's one of Charlie's Angels.
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Get him.
Brody, the ultimate rock androll fantasy.
He's a champion the eons ofroadies in a rock and roll car
or a rock and roll bar. He's theclosest thing there is to a rock
and roll star,strange and wondrous tail, BP,
rage and wondrous Roadies.
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The bands make it rock, but theroadies MAKE IT Pro.
Thank you very much. And goodnight,
directed by Alan Rudolph, whohas directed terror circus
return engagement, The SecretLives of dentists, and written
by Big Boy Medlin, MichaelVentura and Zalman King, the
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only name on here who actuallyhas any kind of career, Zalman
King wrote Nine and a half weekstwo, Moon junction, wild orchid
and the red shoes. Trend there,yeah, starring Marvin, a day
Meatloaf From The Rocky HorrorPicture Show out of bounds,
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Wayne's World and Fight Club.
Also in this is khaki Hunter,who is in Porky's Porky's too
the next day, Porky's revengelike Pee Wee and art Carney,
obviously, from thehoneymooners, fire starter
muffins. Take Manhattan, thelast action here though, the
Late Show WWE and the Dixiedance kings, Harry and Tonto and
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the Star Wars. Holiday Special,excellent. Also in this movie is
a bevy of cameos from musicians,Don Cornelius, Roy Orbison, Hank
Williams, Jr, Debbie, Harry Kurtwood Smith is in this Peter
Frampton, Johnny Winter andAlice Cooper and the entire
Alice Cooper band guys meetTravis W red fish, Texas, good
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old boy and delivery driver forshiner beer. He's a whiz at
fixing things, and he loveshelping his dad, corpus see
redfish with the family salvagecompany. It is a strange world
he lives in, and we get to seeit all in the initial setup, his
dad basically lives in a bigarmchair with an automated arm
that travels him throughout thehouse and which is just full of
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ridiculous contraptions thathe's built. Also there is
Travis's best friend, Bibi, whohas the hots for Travis's Sister
Alice. One day, while Travis andbebe are making deliveries, they
come across an RV broken down onthe side of the road, and Travis
is immediately smitten by awoman from the RV, Lola, so he
decided. Kids to stop and helpremember he is a whiz at fixing
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things. After repairing the RV,Lola talks him into traveling
with the guys she's with who areroad managers for some band. And
Lola also tells Travis all aboutthe person she's hoping to meet
one day one Alice Cooper, Travissays he's never heard of her,
but he'd be happy to travel withhim. He goes with them to a
rough and tumble bar, where heimpresses everyone by setting up
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the sound equipment better thananyone they've ever seen. Later,
he gets into a bar fight andgets hit on the head and put
into a dazed state called Brainlock. While he's confused, the
road manager convinces him tokeep traveling with them so he
can take advantage of Travis'salmost supernatural skills with
tech equipment. Not too hard toconvince him, though, because he
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has fallen in love with Lola andwill help her meet Alice Cooper.
Along the way, he continues toimpress other bands and their
managers, gets in and out of bigtrouble, and even manages to
flirt successfully with DebbieHarry. But when he and Lola have
a blowout argument, after hetells her he loves her, he drags
her to Alice Cooper's show inNew York City, and tries to
leave her with him so she canfulfill her groupy dreams.
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However, Alice has heard ofTravis's reputation and
convinces him to stay longenough to fix the problems with
Alice's sound system. In return,Alice buys him a bus to drive
himself back to Texas, and givesLola VIP treatment with a front
row seat backstage access andthe promise of a romantic
evening. Travis is heartbroken,but he has just found out that
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his best friend and his sisterare getting married back in
Texas, so he races home toattend, even though Lola is
pleading for him to stay. Afterall, will Lola finally realize
that it's a Travis she wants tobe with? Will Travis get a phone
call from her during hissister's wedding, telling him
she has given up her groupiedreams and is waiting at a
nearby Texas bus stop for him,and as they consummate their
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relationship in the back ofTravis's new bus, will they be
interrupted by an alienspacecraft suddenly arriving,
allowing Lola to use long,dormant psychic powers to sense
that The UFO is broken, and thealiens want Travis to fix it.
Whoa.
And did I watch the wrong movie?
This movieis quite silly, but I've always
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loved it, and I think Kevin Byrdwould also appreciate this weird
little oddity in Alice Cooper'scareer trivia, both Alice Cooper
and meatloaf will appeartogether again 12 years later in
Wayne's World, Travis's house atthe beginning of the movie is
the same house used in the TexasChainsaw Massacre. And Travis W
red fish was originally createdby Texas writer Big Boy Medlin
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for a newspaper column. That isthe extent of his writing
credit. This is the firstappearance of Kurt wood Smith in
a movie bitches leave. Wow.
It's where you sit there withthat timer in the bathroom and
read, gone, I'mback, baby. That's how it's
done.
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Vanessa, oh, God, would you liketo go next? No, but I will
five minutes for you.
Okay, well, I went with a 1984horror film, monster dog.
It's 20 years later, and VinceRaven is going home. He's hoping
for a new beginning, but somehowhe can't escape the horror of
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his past. Youand now things are really
getting hairy.
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Sometimes I'mJames Bond. Sometimes I feel
like Sherlock. SometimesI feel like Jack. I image today,
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you people say it's only.
Legend. Butno matter how real the story, a
legend can't kill.
Is he human,or is he master of the dogs? The
terror of your worst nightmareis about to be
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unleashed, monster dog.
This is also starring AliceCooper, who has 77 credits,
including Wayne Jesus Christ,superstar live in concert, and
as we have talked about on theshow Prince of Darkness. This is
written and directed by Claudiofragaso, 32 credits, including
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troll, two zombie, three rats,night of terror and the seven
magnificent Gladiators, alsostarring alongside Alice Cooper
and several Spanish actors whoseem to be pretty big, Ricardo
Palacios, who has 172 credits,Victoria Vera, who has 53 and
BARDA Berry, who has 134including horror Express
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Treasure Island. But I don'tknow most of the titles of these
people, so I just assume thatyou see them on the screen and
you're in Spain, and you go,cool. I know you. The plot is
Vince Raven, a famous singer isheading to his childhood home, a
remote mansion in Spain, toshoot a music video with his
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friends. He is not Spanish. Heis just an American guy. They
just so happen to be there, justalso so happens to be a killer
pack of dogs out on the loose asthey approach his home, a thick
fog takes over, and the policestop them to warn them of what's
going on. They continue on theirway, promising to go straight
there and find weapons. Butalong the way, they hit a dog,
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and when they get out, they areconfronted by a large, unusual
looking dog in the woods, whothen disappears, however,
reappearing in his stead is anold man who comes out covered in
wounds and tells them that theywill all die. So they go back to
the house, settle in and findthe place oddly empty, despite a
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giant welcome home sign outside,one of the girls in his group
dreams a nightmare where theyall die and that Vince is a
werewolf. He later confides inhis girlfriend that his father
was killed by the locals becausethey believed him to be a
werewolf. While he is out doingsome music video shenanigans and
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the friends are back at thehouse, his neighbors come by
with guns and threaten to killall his roadies, but Vince
arrives and begins taking themout one by one, just as the dog
pack also arrives. Is he awerewolf or is he just a cool
guy that the dogs happen tolike? Watch monster dog to find
out if you can find it, whichyou can't, you have to find a
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weird Russian website that'sstreaming it randomly, and
that's the way that you will geta hold of this film. Wow.
Thoughts. This has a music videoat the start and at the end.
That is a identical song withslightly different footage, one
of which recapping the film. Itis so bad.
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So it's not Alice Cooper song.
Itis an Alice Cooper song. It is
an Alice Cooper song. It is sofucking god awful. It has very
little to do with the movie,other than he could be James
Bond. He could be in disguise.
He could be anybody. Oh, it's sobad. The effects and practical
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in this film are fun enough. Ithink it kind of helps it move
along. But the actual plot andbudget of this piece lacks. It
is, it is just, there's no pointreally in the film. But other
than going Alice Cooper, you gotsome makeup, you know, that's,
that's anyway, he's also justabout, unfortunately in this
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film, the most uncool guy youhave ever met. He is not the
cool rock star that you know andlove. The women in this,
however, are hot, but I amdefinitely not convinced that
his girlfriend is in quote,unquote, electronic video
technician, expert that sheclaims to be. I just don't buy
it. A little bit of trivia, noneof the actors dubbed their own
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lines. The only time that AliceCooper's real voice is heard
during this are the two musicalsequences. Oh, wow. The rest of
it is the dialog in the Englishversion, dubbed by Ted Russ,
known for 43 things, includingpassion, the Christ 26 episodes
of Johnny Soko and his flyingrobot, and 104 episodes of Coco
Bill Alex. Alex Cooper had beenan alcoholic for his entire
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adult life, and he developed acocaine habit in the late 70s.
His music career dwindled andhis health was jeopardized. He
finally made the decision to getsober in 83 The same year, the
record label dropped him,leaving him unsure of his
professional future when he wasasked to start. Are in this low
budget film. He perceived it asan opportunity to get back to
work again, and signed on withthe understanding that the movie
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would not be released outside ofthe Philippines, which is fair.
I That makes a lot of sense. Thescene in which the dogs chase
the girls up a staircase, I'mrusty. What can I say? Chase the
girls up a staircase wasintended to be shot in a single
take because the dogs had beendeprived of food, and the
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actresses were genuinely afraidthat they'd become a meal.
Halfway through the scene, theonset still photographer shouted
stop, because he'd run out offilm and needed to reload this
anchored director Claudiofragaso Fragasso, so he took one
of the loaded shotguns used inthe movie and chased the
photographer around the set,firing shots in the air as he
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hurled obscenities at him. Fromthat point on, the Spanish crew
began referring to fragrassio asEl director loco, the crazy
director, which he found veryamusing. Director Claudio
fragreso asked Alice Cooper towrite two songs for the film. 15
days before photographycommenced, Cooper rushed to
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write the songs and the recordlabel the record temp demo
tracks, which were ultimatelyutilized in the final cut of the
film. The songs were laterincluded in the CD box set the
life and crimes of Alice Cooper.
I have to admit, I have alwayswanted to watch this movie, and
the the trailer has stopped mebecause it looked so goddamn
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cheap.
Oh, it's very cheap. I wouldsay, You know what? You have
enough alcohol or drugs in you,it'll fly by. I do.
When you said that, said youhave enough
trucks in your system, you'll befine. I want to make
assumptions, but now it's justthat even his voice was dubbed.
It's, it's,I didn't know. I thought he just
was dubbed like everybody wasdubbed because, you know, it's
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Spanish, and that's just the wayof certain places. And then
later, when I read that, I waslike, Oh, I wonder what he
actually sounds like? He soundslike this? Well, no, he does
not. He sounds like a nerd.
Well, he does kind of sound likea nerd, especially,
especially now, well now withhis golfing
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monster dog, okay, Eric, whatdid you pick? Fucking hell.
Sorry, Eric, my joyful viewingpleasure was 2012 Bigfoot.
You have had another all night.
Ride with the one, the onlyHenderson. We got two days to
clear all those trees.
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This festival is destroying 50acres of South Dakota forest.
The desecration stops now.
You just couldn't stay out of myspotlight. Could you get
the National Guard natureattacked us in self defense?
Whoa. What's the job we're gonnakill big picking up something on
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the infrared.
Hope that's gonna be big enough.
Only reason you want to kill bigto piss me off.
What is this? A hoot, Nanny, youneed to pull eons. Strike on the
top of Mount Rushmore.
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I wish your mother were here.
A made for TV movie directed byBruce Davidson, whose main thing
is Harry and the Henderson's TVshow, Bigfoot related TMI
holiday Hollywood, somethingcalled off season, but not the
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one I thought right writtenBrian binkman, who wrote meter
apocalypse. He has 55 editingcredits though, Mitch Oh, Robert
rature, also Meteor apocalypseand hey, mega shark versus
chronosaurus, five episodes of ZNation and Predator killer of
killers. I see where this isgoing. This stars. Danny
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badaducci, oh boy, you know, Iknow him from the Petra
Partridge Family, Corvettesummer or Partridge Family, 2200
eons and Barry Williams, oh, mygod. Greg Brady, from 117
episodes of The Brady Bunch andnine, nine episodes of The Brady
(59:34):
Bunch variety show. And ofcourse, 17 episodes of the Brady
kids. Bruce Davidson, who'spretty good X Men, earth's final
hour last summer. Willard, 286credits, is he also the
director?
Did I read the Bruce Davidson?
No, Brian Brinkman or Okay, no,yes, he is. Oh, dude, why'd you
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do that to yourself?
Yeah? I was like, it can't bethe same actor, who's awesome.
He's a great actor, and he's thebest actor in this movie. Also,
Sherilyn Finn and Howard HessmanJesus Christ. Rentless do
this as Sharknado level effects,as they bring out the Bigfoot,
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who is so fucking huge. He iswaist high to a motor home at
some point, which he picks upand tears apart. He picks people
up and bites their heads off andstuff like that. He is, in no
way, a and when he walks, it'slike the earth shakes with every
footstep. So that's okay. Thisis not a creature that's hiding
(01:00:40):
anywhere.
Oh, man, that is a big footDanny, but adjushes plays a
radio host show, talk show,who's putting on a special
concert of eons bands to comeback together and play at this,
whatever small freaking townthis is, I think it's in South
Dakota. And Greg Beatty pays aguy who wants to preserve the
(01:01:05):
area, to protect, initially, thewilderness, but then the Bigfoot
when he finds out about it,which he does change his mind on
that one when he actually seesit. But Bruce and Sherrilyn Finn
play the cops. Hessman is themayor, and let's see, where can
I go with this? Oh, andapparently, Danny and Barry were
(01:01:29):
in a band together that was realbig, but they broke up, and
Barry's pissed about Danny,that's that's why you want to
destroy my concert. Because, youknow, like we broke up, stupid
shit. The first scene where theguys are yelling at each other
had to have like, 20 bloopersbecause they look like they're
trying not to crack up whilethey're yelling. My god, I'm a
tolerable person of shittyfilms. We all know this, right?
(01:01:56):
Yes, Jesus Christ, asylum wouldgo, man, we can't put this
fucker out.
What part does it sounds like?
It has to be an asylum film. Butwhat part does Alice play? Here
comes, okay?
And the concert venue starts.
It's supposed to be, you know,the giant, 1000s of people, and
it looks like a couple risersfrom a local high school with
some shit put around it to looklike, like trestles and stuff.
(01:02:19):
It's just ridiculous. And thecrowd is about 40 people shown
from different angles trying tomake it look like they're more.
Alice Cooper is behind the stageyelling, what's going on? This
is crap. I can't perform. Aaronlike it's under contract. You'll
perform. He's the guest, andlike, Barry's supposed to sing.
(01:02:40):
So Barry comes out, he startssinging. That ends in like 30
seconds, and then Alice Cooper,the star comes out. So I don't
know what the hell the otherbands were. There weren't any.
He did say Proko haram andharem, and harem and sting are
stuck at the airport,but harem that'd be stuck there
for 40 fucking years exactly.
(01:03:03):
And Alice does manage to mentionhe has a book out on golf. And
then he comes on stage andthinking, well, they'll at least
have an Alice Cooper song. No,whoever put this movie together
paid Alice, but would not payhim enough to use one of his
songs. So in what has to be fiveto seven minute segment as
they're cutting between him andthe Bigfoot starting to attack
(01:03:29):
the concert is just this weirdrepetition of canned, kind of
metal sounding music, and Alicegoing, and you keep waiting, and
it sounds like it a song, Andthen it just starts up again,
going, Jesus Christ, man.
So, yeah, this was not good.
You chose poorly. Oh, my God,but
(01:03:54):
that's the biggest note I couldcome up with, that Danny and
Barry did a celebrity boxingmatch, and when Danny beat up
Barry in the boxing match, yeah,so I should have watched Dallas
Cooper concert or something,yeah, or maybe a conglomeration
of all his commercial worksomeplace. He's got some of
(01:04:15):
those Japan or something.
Vanessa probably doesn't knowthis, but Eric knows that we
were subjected to Danny ducci onour airwaves for about 12 years.
He was the morning guy for Kc,okay, radio, oh,
that's why I didn't listen toKC, okay.
(01:04:36):
Or was it? KSW, whatever it was,I was I was just like, well, I
will never listen to thisstation while he is on. He is
such an annoying little troll.
However, got very sick and hasretired lives in Florida now, so
I hope he's at least comfortablein his sickness and doing what
he can to feel better, right?
Don't watch your old movie.
(01:04:58):
Okay, Danny, because I know.
You're gonna listen.
The one thing I will say abouthim is he is very aware of who
he is, yeah. The other thing is,he's very proud of who Yes, that
too, yeah. But, well,he tried, I would tell you he
was putting his effort. Yeah.
God damn. I can't imaginewatching him in a lead role and
(01:05:22):
Bruce Davidson directing, whatthe fuck?
But you can tell I walked intothis film was that I did
connect. The actor is thedirector of the same person,
yeah, when you said it starredhim too, I was like, this, can't
be Bruce Davidson, who's been inblockbuster movies. Oh yeah.
And he, honestly, he was thebest guy, which is, you know,
(01:05:44):
sometimes when directors directthemselves, that doesn't go real
well.
Yeah, somebody had some fuckingpictures of him.
How else to explain somethinglike this?
Well, there you guys have it.
Alice Cooper, thank you, Kevin.
Sort ofthe upfront part. Thanks. It was
great. I'll pick a differentmovie. Good that your movie
(01:06:06):
sound great. I mean, it'sstupid, really stupid, but it is
a lot of fun.
Okay, well, so, and then wealready know that I had chosen
1986 so we'll do that for thenext episode. Excellent. So that
(01:06:26):
means that this is the partwhere we say, hey, thanks
everybody. Thanks Kevin bird fordonating something. You know, if
you want to donate something andrequest us to do a movie, that's
how you guys did the convent,too, right? Yep. So we're more
than happy to look at a film, ifthat's what it takes to get you
to send us a moolahor, you know, a topic is even
(01:06:48):
better.
We don't have to watch yourshitty convent movie.
Thank you. Micah,it's called value for value. If
you get some kind of value outof this, then give some value
back, and that includes likingand sharing posts, commenting,
thanks, Jeffrey, get better onthe YouTube videos. All of that
(01:07:12):
stuff is some kind of value. Idon't understand how the
algorithm works, but I do knowthat the more you interact with
it, the more other people seeit. Yeah, it's true.
Watching the 100 Days of horrorthat I'm post posting, so
probably this come out, we'llstill have a couple weeks left
of that that's on the Facebooktalk page. And then is there
anywhere else that you've beenposting that
(01:07:33):
100 Days of horror Facebookgroup and my Instagram?
Excellent.
Very nice. And Vanessa, whereelse can they reach us.
You guys can also reach us onstrange eons radio hotline,
which is 253-237-4266, you canleave us a voicemail. You can
send us a text message. We wouldlove to hear from you, ideally
(01:07:54):
let us know that it's okay touse it, but regardless, we will.
That's right. You chose todial. You knew what you were
getting into, right? Yes,all right, guys, how about we
reconvene in two short weeks,and we are talking about films
from 1986 See you next time,transportation and other
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