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December 8, 2025 78 mins
In this episode, Tom sits down with Dr. Yafi Yair to explore the hidden dimensions of spirituality, psychic abilities and the mysterious entities that interact with human consciousness. From elemental beings and ethereal energies to the ancient symbolism of Hathor and the gateways to higher intuition, this conversation dives deep into the unseen layers of reality.

We discuss spiritual healing, energetic frequencies, psychic development and the nature of non physical entities, both benevolent and neutral, that people encounter during meditation, altered states and spiritual activation.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
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(00:44):
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(01:06):
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Speaker 3 (01:10):
It's a best kid, It's strange.

Speaker 4 (01:17):
Welcome back to the show, everybody, Welcome back. I'm your host,
Tom Kat aka Tom Thompson, though Raptilian. We have a
special guest on this episode. Would you like to introduce
yourself to the what we call the Hoseheads?

Speaker 5 (01:31):
Sure? Hi, Tom So. My name is doctor Yaffiya ear.
I am a clinical psychologist. So we start normal and
it gets weirder and weirder. I'm also a trans multi
dimensional channel. Wait what is that? And so I also

(01:54):
have contact with different beings. I channel different beings. Let's
see what else. I've been on this specific spiritual awakening
path for approximately thirteen years now, which started again relatively normal,
meditating daily, becoming interested in anything paranormal and spiritual, and

(02:20):
from there it got weird pretty quickly. So apparently the
universe and my higher self had all these interesting plans
in store for me, and I had no idea. I
just thought these interests were awakening, and before I knew it,
my life got really really crazy. So my mom, who

(02:43):
I was very very very close close with, was diagnosed
with cancer, and within two months she transitions. It happened
very very quickly, and this spark of interest spiritual awakening
that I'm describing happened just a few months before. So
it's really like my life was preparing me. So I

(03:04):
started delving into all these spiritual things, and then my
mom transitioned, and then the journey became really personal. I
wanted to contact her. I wanted to know there's truth
to reality. Spiritual reality, and not only like before that
I wanted to believe I thought they were truth. I

(03:26):
had little points of indication throughout my life that there's magical,
extraordinary things at play, including a daylight UAP siding when
I was eight years old. So the phenomena has been
with me very long. But you know it is you
rationalize everything, you push things aside, and you live your

(03:49):
more or less normal life. And that's what I was
doing until that awakening that really came at me from
all directions. There was no avoiding it, no ignoring it.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
That's what happens with like especially death and stuff.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
You want to know what is going on beyond this
physical form and reality.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
Right.

Speaker 4 (04:10):
I was always interested by the paranormal since I was
a very young kid, like probably shouldn't have messed around
with wigi boards, but did a lot of that when
I was like, you know, twelve thirteen. It's just you know,
your curiosity of like what lies beyond this, And the
fans know of the show that that was like my
first love before like conspiracies or like true crime. We
get into all sorts of things on the show, but
like it was really the paranormal ghosts that really like interested.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Me, yeah, and.

Speaker 5 (04:35):
Anything unknown beyond.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
Yeah, because a lot of people get in this the
existential crisis of like is this it? And you know,
I even my grandparents when they were getting older, Like
first there was like more of like they actually got
one of the Wigi boards of my grandmother and it
was more like they were optimistic. But then closer and
closer to the end of their life, they're like, you know,
becoming cynical and like, ah, this is probably it and

(04:58):
and that's what happens being in this physical form so long.
So you had an experience when you were eight, you
saw some sort of like I guess UFO, right, and
it kind of sparked your interest.

Speaker 5 (05:10):
Yeah, my interest was even before that. So I was
a very strange little girl. So even we're talking little
little like three years old, maybe four years old, I
was running experiments with sending energies from the palms of
my hands, trying to manipulate energy to see if I
can affect like do telekinesis basically basically try to move

(05:34):
things with the energy, which by the way, never worked,
but I really wanted it to. Since I was very
very little, I would try to levitate through meditation, so
not like by flying, but through intention, and I would
get the kids in the neighborhood to join me and
meditate with me in attempt to levitate, which again never worked.

(05:58):
And there was Did you grow up by Israel in
a very secular, atheistic environment, So my parents were very
big non believers, believers, non believer in anything other than
intellectual abilities.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (06:15):
So that was kind of the background to my strangeness,
because if not, it wouldn't be strange. But it was
so different than anything else around me, within my family,
within my neighborhood. I had all these ideas and convictions
because it wasn't just imagination and I was always known
for having a like crazy wild imagination, but I also

(06:36):
had this convictions, like I felt that it should work,
people should be levitate, just like I do in my dreams.
I always flew in my dreams. I always had that
conviction we should be able to do that in regular
physical life as well.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
So did you ever get interested in like Cabbala mysticism
and stuff?

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Did that ever interest you?

Speaker 5 (06:56):
Yes? Yes, again much much later in life. But I
did a course I did. There are like two main
courses in Kabbala, so I did one, and I'm definitely
interested in it again now from the more spiritual philosophical,
but spiritual, and also applied spirituality aspect of it for sure.

(07:20):
And you know, after my mom actually died, in the
first visitation that she came through to me, she said
to me, I'll see you. I'll meet you at a
tree of life. And back then I didn't know that
it was a cabalistic term, and I had no idea
what she meant. I actually still didn't know what she meant.
But now I have some idea of the tree of life,

(07:42):
and I thought it was very interesting, especially as a person. Again,
my mom was very not into mysticism, so to get
that as my first message from her, it's quite mystical
and mysterious.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
So you got into like channeling essentially, right, and like
when did that start taking place? Like when did you
kind of maybe realize that you had these abilities so
to speak.

Speaker 5 (08:06):
Yeah, So, as I said mentioned, since I was very
very little, I had some inclination that I have some abilities.
I did really didn't know where to put it and
how to contextualize it, but I had the sense that
I had some sensitivity, some abilities. For example, when I
was a teenager, young teenager, I made an agreement with
spirits without really believing that spirits are real. I made

(08:29):
an agreement with them in my mind. I don't mind
you spent sharing the house with me. I don't mind
you hanging around here, but I don't want to see
you because I'm going to freak out. So they just
don't show yourself to me. So I had knowings that
even me did not accept them as reality, which is
really interesting how our mine works. So when them thirteen

(08:50):
years ago, it was thirteen and a half years ago
at this point when I really applied myself into developing
my intuition, meditating every day, I started going to the
Monroe Institute because I already had those original abilities that
were just pushed away. When it really applied myself, things
really opened up for me and I become became really

(09:11):
quite intuitive and quite psychic. And at first it was
like funny little things like I would discover that I
could read my husband's mind, and again it was about
recognizing it because I didn't always going on I'm like,
why am I thinking about sandwiches? I'm not even hungry,
and my husband was like, what I'm starving? I was
just thinking about sandwiches. I'm like, oh okay, So like

(09:31):
little realizations like this, which eventually was full on me
developing my psychic abilities doing readings again, first for myself
and family, then friends, then professionally to clients, then integrating
that with more energy work and.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
Institution.

Speaker 5 (09:51):
Yeah. I go to the Monroe Institute regularly. I love
it there. I've I've figured with from home. It's very
very cool, and I can share some of the experiences
that I've had there pretty while.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
I've read some of his stuff, not all of it,
but in passing through research and stuff like that. Wouldn't
mind getting that. There's that famous book that he wrote
about researching these near death experiences and.

Speaker 5 (10:12):
I we wrote. So Robert Monreu wrote three books, and
I really recommend reading all of them and reading them
in order, because he wrote them over a span of decades,
so without him intending to it kind of became his
life story, which also documents how his own understanding evolved.

(10:34):
It's very very interesting. There are instances that he described
in the first book from a fear perspective and from
this happened to me and he was so distressful and
then he needs to read the second book and then
the third book, he gets to experience them from a
different perspective and it's just completely mind blowing for him

(10:54):
as the experiencer and as the reader as well. So
for people that haven't, I really recommend reading all three
books by Robert Monroe and in order if possible. And
the last one was published a year before he died,
so it's really until the very very end of his
life and everything that he learned from decades of astral exploration,
So there's a lot of wisdom there and it's just

(11:16):
so fascinating, so interesting.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
Yeah, I've always I've tried since I was a kid
to astro project. I haven't been successful. I've had my
own weird experiences with like shadow people and stuff like that.
But this, but to be able to project I see,
I feel like it's a you really need to concentrate.
And obviously there's little things like I don't I partake
in some drinking alcohol or like smoking a joint. I'm Canadian, right,

(11:38):
It's just it's legal here, so it's easy to.

Speaker 5 (11:41):
Okay, why I joined in Canadian go together.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
Yeah, it was very easy to access here, not as much,
Ahsen I was younger though, that's for sure. It only
became legal and last like you know, ten ten, ten
years about But it's just I think some of that
stuff cuts off your ability.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
Also.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
I think that uh, you know, I think you have
to you know, a lot of these monks and these
spiritual teachers, they have to be essentially sobriety.

Speaker 5 (12:05):
It's true. But it's all a matter of balance too.
So it's not like, so I don't drink, so maybe
I'm not the best, and I'm vegetarian, so maybe I'm
not the best example. But you don't have to be perfect.
And I'm not perfect either in the way that I
eat or live. But it's it is a matter of
kind of having a healthy baseline. So you want to

(12:26):
eat generally healthy, generally natural food as much organic as possible.
If you don't want to be a vegetarian, that's fine,
but don't need tons of meat every day. It's not
good for you in any way, shape or form, and
definitely not into enhancing your innerconnection.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
I've heard, I've heard stuff about that. That's why I
do enjoy eating meat. I think it's good for protein
and stuff like that. But I have heard through a
lot of different research people and have inspired me, even
like UFC fighters that may have actually done a vegetarian diet,
even though it's interesting because even though they're fighting and
you know, they end up having these vegetarian diets or whatever,

(13:03):
and they seem pretty strong, considering people like, oh, you know,
it's just you're gonna be weak and all that stuff.
And I heard that it allows you to connect more
or less to the realities out there, these different domains,
because essentially you're grounded by like the land. Like I've
experienced psychedelic experiences using magic mushrooms.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
It's kind of changed my life. But I've heard that
because essentially I know.

Speaker 4 (13:28):
That, like with eating meat, you're also getting the frequency
of like the animal's death too and stuff like that.
So when they kill an animal, especially in a traumatic way,
it seems like it. I believe that some of that
trauma goes into the meat and that we're eating them.

Speaker 5 (13:43):
Yeah, makes sense. We don't treat our animals very well.
It's not only the way we're killing them. We're really
not treating our animals very well. And initially when I
became a vegetarian or just was after reducing my meat consumption,
it was more for the animal than for health. Yes,
for health reasons, but mainly because how horribly we treat

(14:03):
animals with large industrial farming and everything. And yeah, yeah,
when you see some of the you know, those movies,
you're like, that's what I'm eating. You know, it's not
even real meat anymore. It's just kind of crazy. But
putting all that other side, you don't have to become
a vegetarian to be connected. You do have to be well,

(14:25):
and I do think there's a difference, but so you
do have to be generally well, but we're talking mentally,
physically on all levels. And yes, there are a lot
of contaminations in our water, in our food, So you
want to live as healthily as you can, but just
as a person, right, hopefully you want to live as
healthily and as well as you can. But going to
the Monroe Institute was instrumental in me getting more comfortable

(14:49):
in navigating different layers of consciousness and different altered states.
That really made connecting and getting messages much easier, much
more natural. And then when I started channeling, so so
I channeled before, like I said, I was doing already
psychic readings and groups and different things, and I'm like, oh,

(15:11):
channeling is interesting. People seem to like it. Let me
see if I can offer channeling. And I did a
couple of channeling groups and the groups were very happy
the people in the group. But I thought it was
a little weird. I couldn't like tell one hundred percent
if it's my imagination or it's real. And the information

(15:33):
often sometimes it's direct, but with channeling, sometimes the information
is very broad. And I'm like, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (15:41):
I used to watch a lot of those videos or
channels and like I'm skeptical, right, like things could be
faked or whatever. But there are some people Barbara Mensini,
I think there's some of them that I've listened to
them like it's actually it's pretty compelling. It's always positive stuff,
so I get why people would like listening to it.
But some of them, it is very the way that

(16:04):
they're able to like everything changes, their their facial expression,
their mannerism. Like if they're faking it, they're a pretty
good actor, right, And I do think that, like I've
always thought this idea is like is our thoughts our
own or they just kind of picked out and then
dropped into our head, Right, So a lot of people.
You know, you're having a bad day, you have a
negative thought, and is it like something coming out and

(16:25):
then just placing that into your mind?

Speaker 5 (16:27):
You know? And I think it's a good question. I
think it happens so much more than people realize it,
whether it's a thought or a mood or you know,
like it can be funny like me reading my husband's
mind without even meaning to, but it's true. It's just
like that, and it can be very subtle, so we
don't always know.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
It's interesting.

Speaker 4 (16:46):
So when you start getting into channeling, did you, like,
do you feel like an energy or certain things that
that you were channeling were more positive? Because like, obviously
there's this idea too of like I've always talked to
a lot in the show about like the idea of
the reptilians and some of these more demonic entities that
maybe could masquerade as like pladeans and stuff like that

(17:09):
as possible. Right, So, how would you decipher, like when
you're grabbing out there, I guess in the ether, how
did you discern maybe who you were talking to or
where they were from or kind of that, because at
first it probably be a little scary, right if you
felt like these energies were coming through you, right, yeah,
I'll do it essentially.

Speaker 5 (17:28):
So after those first few groups, I put it aside
until I did a long form training with Lisa Roylholt,
the very, very experienced channel er. She's been doing it
for almost fifty years, so I really felt in good hands.
And she was also his background in psychology. There's so
many parallels and she's so grounded, so I felt very
comfortable doing the training with her and kind of diving

(17:51):
all the way in. It was during COVID shutdowns, so
I had a lot of time to invest in whatever
the training involved. And at the beginning, the energies that
I channeled that everybody in the class but that I channeled,
were selected from a deck of cards that our teacher prepared.

(18:11):
That these are energies that are ready to work with us.
So let's say I had forty cards and I would
chuffel them, pick a card, and that's the energy I
would channel. So the beginning it was kind of controlled,
you know, training wheels if you will. But but that's
one part of it. How do I know what I'm
connecting to? But it's not the only part. And I

(18:32):
would say it's not even the main part. So the
main main part is what state do I put myself
in as I or before I'm making the call, making
the connection. And the idea is whatever can connect to

(18:54):
you has to vibrate in coherence to some degree with
you and your call. It's like if you're calling a
certain phone number, nobody in a completely different area code
can get the call. It just doesn't work that way.
That's absoutely a really good analogy. I like that. So
the first thing that I did I would have I
would recite an invocation. And at the beginning I used

(19:16):
to say it out loud, but very quickly I said
it inward, because I go inward when I channel, and
my invocation my one oh one. The first thing that
I did was put myself in this expanded state and
express the interest to only work with, or navigate or
deal with what realms of love and light, which sound

(19:40):
very generic, but for me, every person needs to find
the words that resonates for them, and for me that
was enough. What more can I want? Realms of love
and light? I'm in.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
So that's projecting, like you're putting it out there so
to speak of what you're like wanting to talk about
it and stuff like that. You in these conversations. I've had,
uh other someone else who was kind of like a
spiritual healer on the show. I always get these weird feelings.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
I've had themselves as a kid too, and like of
like I always explained it as like the cracking egg theory,
where like, you know, someone puts a fake egg on
your head and they and they make you feel these tingles.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
Like it's the thing that we did as kids.

Speaker 4 (20:19):
Right, you go with someone's head that crack and then
you like make them kind of feel good with your
fingers or whatever. Right, he just kind of like gives
you like a weird tickle. And I've felt these energies
on the back of my head. And I remember we
went to a UFO conference and it was I remember
this guy was like and I'm always skeptical, right, but
it was interesting. He knew some stuff about my wife
that he shouldn't have known, and and and then new

(20:40):
stuff about me that I was like, maybe maybe you
could have cut like pulled out a thin air.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
But he's like, if you ever get this feeling on
the back.

Speaker 4 (20:46):
Of your head, And I was like, yeah, I actually
do it, And he's like, it's one of your spiritual guides.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
And then he he said it was it was a monkey.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
Uh, and you know, like, and I find it funny
because he's like a reflects your personality. And there was
years in my life when I younger that I did
battle with some not like crazy, but some addiction. And
I was like, it kind of makes sense maybe now
if that if he was right and that thing was
real or whatever, then it just maybe makes sense because
you know the monkey on your back, right. So I

(21:14):
do think that there is I get weird feelings I
have throughout all my life. I feel like I've dulled
it to some extent, but I think I do. I've
listening to lostuf. I do think we all have the potential.

Speaker 5 (21:25):
Absolutely. It's kind of like musical talent. We all have
some potential, right. Nobody can have a pianel in front
of them and not like play some notes. But how
great can you play depends on both your initial talent,
initial natural ability, and how much of yourself you put
into it. Practice practice, practice, So it's really exactly the same.

(21:48):
It's exactly the same. So any ability that you can
think of, any ability that humans have, it doesn't even
have to be a special gift. You can talk about
athletic abilities. Some people are natural more athletic than others. However,
even the weakest, smallest people, if they work out regularly,
especially if they're training in a specific way, they can

(22:10):
really become quite strong. They may not become a professional athlete,
or they may become a professional athlete because the range
is so big and how much we can work with
our natural gifts. But we all have different starting points.
So my starting point, I think, was about medium. So
some people are super supreme, they see auras and dead people,

(22:33):
so that was not my experience growing up. For me,
it was more subtle. I could feel things, I knew things.
Occasionally I would get images, but inside my mind, never outside.
So I would know things about people through inner visions,
but it was never outer visions. So and maybe I'm wrong,
but I'm thinking that maybe that's kind of a medium

(22:56):
starting point. But then because in the last thirteen more
than thirteen years now, I've been really dedicating my life
in developing it and focus on it, it's really have
become my sole path. I even straight away from almost
turned my back away to clinical psychology. After you know,
studying it for eleven years and we won't even talk

(23:19):
about student loans, and I kind of turned my back
on it and said, no, my path is a spiritual path,
this is my journey. This is what I do. I'm
a consciousness explorer. And that title did not come to
me until a little later, maybe even an association with
the Monroe Institute, but it really kind of became a
part of my identity that I stepped into, like, I'm explorer.

(23:42):
That's what I love to do. I have all this
curiosity and all these questions, and I'm willing to walk
the walk, not only to talk the talk. I'm willing
to meditate an hour day and eat as healthy as
I can and make sure that I keep my body
well and my mind well, and do all the shadow
work or whatever you want to call it. I did

(24:02):
not relate to the term shadow work until just a
couple of years ago. But whatever your.

Speaker 4 (24:07):
Psychedelics do though, too, Yeah, the psychooxical, you face your
shadow because, like when I've done it, it's like if
if people out there aren't like they're not prepared, it's
gonna that's what they would call a bad trip. It's
because your mind is showing you stuff that you need
to acknowledge your kind of defeat, so to speak, specific

(24:29):
if you've.

Speaker 5 (24:29):
Been very avoidant. You know, my I've done one ayahuasca experience.
I've done many other things, many many other things, including DMT.
So so I'm not talking is Ahauaska is the most intense.
But I've done only one ayahuasca ceremony and I really
it was before them, when Row Institute. And my intention
was if mother Ahuaska helped me go out of body,

(24:51):
I wanted to be able to go out of body
it will and have more control and navigate with that
and play with that. So that was my my one
main goal. I wanted to huge spiritual boost and I
wanted to better to help with out of body travels.
And again we're talking about thirteen years ago and I
did ayahuasca, and I can tell you that my ayahuasca

(25:13):
experience was very pleasant. How many people can say their
experience was very pleasant. I was really enjoying the music,
and I was seeing colors everywhere, and I was and
I took a huge dose. I mean I couldn't move,
I couldn't walk for like six hours, like I was
just done. And I was seeing like colors everywhere, And

(25:35):
occasionally I would kind of like with aahuaska, what about
out of body experiences? And the only message that I
would get to just just enjoy in body, And like
an hour later it would occur to me, I'm like, ahuasca,
this is very nice, but what about out of body experiences?
And I would get the same answer, just enjoy the inbody.

(25:57):
So my experience was kind of opposite, and everybody's else's
right that that kind of whatever they want, they get
like the big slap in the face that they didn't expect.
For me, I was looking for that. I wanted something
big and dramatic, but I mean not negative, but big
and dramatic, and I really got just a very pleasant

(26:19):
I think maybe psychedelics are more natural to my makeup
than most people's, and maybe it's related to the psychic ability.
I'm not sure, but I think it's just more natural
and less jarring for me than most people.

Speaker 4 (26:35):
With your DMT, did you break through because I've only
done magic mushrooms because I've heard that there's like entities
my body did it and he said he talked to entities.

Speaker 5 (26:44):
It's very different DMT. Yes, it's a completely different animal,
and yes, there's so for people who don't know. When
you mentioned breakthrough with DMT, you're not talking like having
a psychological breakthrough or something like that. It's something very very,
very very effect which is the point of breaking away

(27:04):
from the physical world, and that is the breakthrough point
and the way I experienced it, so it's often experienced
with a tone that increases in pitch, getting like higher
and higher and higher and higher, and I experienced that
as well. Also, sounds were very interesting because I could
hear my inside everything that's happy on the inside with echo,

(27:28):
and with that the tone that went up and up
and up and up and up. And once the breakthrough happens,
the tone disappears, and somehow colors and sounds become one.
And I found myself in this enclosure, in this space.
It was huge, but it was an definitely closed and

(27:52):
it was kind of made out of metallic like panels,
like millions of them. I don't know how many of them,
thousands and millions of them. And I managed to do
the breakthrough three times. The first time I just popped
into that place and I was like WHOA, And I
think I was too disoriented to make anything happen. I

(28:13):
did call for some entities, but I didn't nobody came.
And then the second time I broke through it again
and I was in the same enclosure and I called
on some entities and it kind of shows you how
you mind we're still so even in that state, there's
a part of our brain that is so human that

(28:36):
doesn't really get it. So I was calling for an
entities and as I'm calling for an entity, there's the
psychedelic wasp like being. This insectoid being keeps from bumping
as if there's a glass between me and it, and
it keeps from bumping, kind of getting my attention and
bump bump, and I'm kind of ignoring it, calling for
an entity, calling for an entity, and all of a

(28:57):
sudden it clicked weight is this is my entity?

Speaker 3 (29:02):
So there's insectoid supposedly and like you know different.

Speaker 5 (29:06):
It wasn't sex, but it was very psychedelic looking, meaning
it was very colorful and parts were falling out of
it and coming back together. Like it wasn't like a
movie where you see a minted being. You know, it
was very psychedelic. And like I said, my mind was
still fragmented because for a while, I'm calling for beings
and calling for beings without realizing that, hey, I have

(29:27):
here a being. So then I turned to him, I'm like, wait,
are you my being? And he gestured, I don't know
why I'm saying, he I don't know if I if
I had any sense of gender whatsoever. And that was
actually my third breakthrough. I also had an experience with
a second breakthrough, but my third time. So I called

(29:48):
for the being and he gestured for me to follow
him and said, here is your access to all cosmic knowledge.
And now, if this was said to me, I'm like, yes,
please Back then it sounded so vague and general, like
I didn't know what to do with it. I wasn't

(30:12):
by my experience with contact has not re emerged yet,
like I wasn't. It didn't appeal to me. I didn't
understand what it meant galactic cosmic knowledge, and it just
didn't appeal to me. And at the same time, I
had the knowing that it's always within me, that all
this knowledge is always there, always accessible whenever I want it,

(30:34):
So that knowing with the fact that I did not
really understand his invitation, I almost kind of said no, thanks.
I just kind of hung around there in that space
until it ended, because DMT experiences are quite brief and
as it ended, so for me, this is all like
experimental research. So I kept like writing logs of everything.

(30:56):
So as soon as I was done with the high
I went to my computer and I'm writing my log.
And as I'm writing the log, I realized that that
anchor that access to all knowledge is slipping away from
me because I'm coming down back to physical reality and
I'm like wait, wait, wait wait, And by the time
I got it, it was gone, and I realized that

(31:18):
I had this huge missed opportunity. I was actually offering
this knowledge.

Speaker 4 (31:23):
And I was like, I don't know about that, Yeah,
what would be like frightening it at some point?

Speaker 3 (31:29):
Right?

Speaker 4 (31:29):
Like you like, I feel like, even throughout the Psychondel experiences, uh,
your mind still wants to like be like you know,
I don't know if you like being like this.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
I always liked my mushroom trips.

Speaker 4 (31:41):
I've had some like weird ones, but I always enjoyed it,
especially once you get past the uh the stomach aches
and the like all that kind of initial then they
kind of get you to break through. Yeah, I've always
wanted to do DMT, something that would be interested in doing.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
Yeah, he like carry on.

Speaker 5 (32:00):
No, I definitely recommend. You know, it's not for everyone.
It's not a fun kind of high. It hits you
like a brick wall, and within a few minutes it
lifts lifts away, and reaching the breakthrough is not always
easy because you and so heavy that the last thing
you want to try to get another hit and then

(32:20):
it goes away. It's kind of a mental game. But
for people that really like the exploring, experimental part, that
really want to experience something beyond uh, yeah, it's a
great tool.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
But you know, I feel like psychedelics are better than
the having to like a lot of people do like
breath work and stuff and or meditation to reach these
like spiritual heights, and I fink that's a little tougher
is psycho s.

Speaker 5 (32:53):
And more integrated. So you know how you told me
that your lifestyle you you like drinking, you like smoking,
you're not what's not into committing developing your psychic abilities.
So then psychedelics do for you. They're like shortcuts, their tools,
but they're not going to integrate into your life the

(33:16):
same way if you change your whole lifestyle, right, So
it's like giving you tastes of bits and pieces because
i can tell you that, despite the fact that I've
done DMT several times, I was for wance, mushrooms and
LSD many, many, many times, although not for a while
because I'm not into doing that regularly. But it doesn't matter.

(33:37):
I'm like, I'm very open minded. I love exploring. I
can tell you that my most meaningful experiences, most of them,
not all of them, but most of them were completely
substance free, was either at the Monroe Institute or here
meditating or through lucid dreaming. I've had some really interesting

(34:01):
experiences exploring through lucy dreaming. You can become lucid and
navigate within the dream, or you can come lucid and
immediately break through the astro playing, and that's much easier
than DMT. So and that is something that I actually
wanted to bring up to you because you mentioned that
you want to explore more and experience more. So my

(34:24):
question to you have you played with lucy dreaming?

Speaker 4 (34:29):
It it's too I dream pretty vividly sometimes, like I'll
do a Valerian tea, and Valerian really like amplifies your
dreams and did it last night and I don't. It's
it's I don't know if you could maybe try to
help me, but like it's like it is, I have
a dog too. I just I've always tried, and then

(34:55):
it gets tough to kind of break through with this.
It's it's it's hard to recognize. I feel like I know,
but then I'm like it's hard to like kind of
get that wake up inside of your dream. I've always
tried to, like astro project, It's been a long time,
and I agree with you that I think there is
ways to reach these heights of consciousness and stuff like

(35:16):
that without having to use substances.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
They are like kind of like a shortcut.

Speaker 4 (35:22):
But I do think that like I want to I've
just talked about this recently that like I want to
microdose more because that does help health and it makes
me think differently.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
It makes me think more.

Speaker 4 (35:32):
About what I'm eating, what I'm doing, how I'm living,
you know, emotionally, physically, whatever. But I do find that
it is it is tough to like have those be
disciplined to make sure that you can reach those heights
and do it so you know, we can all kind

(35:53):
of read some sort of like happiness in our life. Right,
everyone's going the world's crazy. Everything's going crazy in the world,
and it's just hard to find that balance.

Speaker 5 (36:02):
Right, So start with baby steps. Do anything in your
life that makes sense for you, so that we're talking
about diet. Like I said, I didn't start by going vegetarian.
I just wanted to reduce meat and that was my intention,
and everything else really unfolded quite naturally. And one of
the reasons that it unfolded naturally is because I didn't
come out of this like clack and restriction. Oh I

(36:24):
want to eat meat and I can't eat meat. It
wasn't like that. It was I want and it really
came from my desire to reduce the amount of meat.
So it was kind of very flexible and very informal,
and over the next few years, and it took years,
but over the next few years, I went from I
never ate a whole lot of meat, but normal typical

(36:44):
I don't know, average person, I guess, to no meat
at all. And it really was just totally driven but
by what I wanted, and the more I did it,
the more I felt connected with my body and my
body doesn't want meat. Like I said, I was never
a huge meat lover. I know it's not the same
for everyone, but.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
My wife's mom's vegetarian. Yes, she just never like.

Speaker 5 (37:06):
Yeah, so it just doesn't appeal to me at all.
But the idea is that baby steps do something that
works for you. You know, people that want to get
in shape and they hate exercising, well, then maybe committing
to an hour gym a day, an hour in the
gym every day, maybe that's not the best thing. Maybe
you want to start with ten minutes of dancing every day,

(37:26):
you know, baby steps, and find a way to make
it more fun, less heavy, less out of lack, and
more out of again desire.

Speaker 4 (37:37):
What are your suggestions on lucid dreaming, like whatever your
biguilar experience, is there any like ways that you can
kind of, I guess, wake yourself up within that dream
any like?

Speaker 5 (37:47):
Absolutely? So, there are tons of tips, but the first
thing is your intention. And it sounds simple, but it's not.
So those first few times that I had major success
with Lucy dreaming with visitations for my mom, I just
went to sleep every night. So, first of all, I
was reading a book about lucy dreaming. So you're already

(38:09):
priming the pump by thinking about it before sleep, reading
about it, and then when I went to sleep, right
as I was falling asleep, I focused, I want to.
I don't remember what was my specific affirmation I'm going
to I'm awake in my dreams. Let's say I don't
know something along this line, and I would just hold

(38:30):
on to that thought before falling asleep, and I fell asleep.
So it really wasn't a very long process. And just
doing this, my success rate was that every fourth night
it was pretty consistent. I don't know why every fourth
night I would be able to trigger lucidity within the dream.
But there was also a little bit of a beginner's luck.

(38:50):
So it's first of all, that you know, back then
it was the first time me trying to really put
myself into it. So just that intention plus reading something
about it before going to sleep was enough. Another way
is keeping a dream journal. Keeping a dream journal next
to your bed and writing a little bit every morning
is very very helpful in telling your mind that you

(39:15):
have that intention to remember your dream, to interact with
your dream. So just having that can be very helpful.

Speaker 4 (39:23):
I don't think I want to read Some of them
are like intense and crazier. Well, so I don't know if.

Speaker 5 (39:34):
If you ask me, it's even a better reason to write.
And the last thing that I recommend for people that
want to become lucid in their dreams or reading books
about it, putting your intention before you go to sleep.
And another thing is journaling. We mentioned. And the last
thing that I will mention is having a trigger. So

(39:55):
let's say, I'll give the example of my mom when
I had the intention to meet my mom in the astro.
Every time I had a dream and I saw my
mom in the dream, it would triggers like, oh, my
mom is dead. I know, it's not horrible. My mom
is dead. She can't be here. Oh it must be dreaming.

Speaker 4 (40:17):
So that's an interesting way because I've had dreams with
my grandparents and like seeing my grandma and and like,
and I was like, there's you know, I I've known
people who went to psychics. I would actually like to
go at some point, but they've had the exactly Well,
That's what I'm saying is like, eventually it would be
cool to do something like that, because like, you know,

(40:39):
it was almost like this feeling like that. People claim
that when they're coming in your dreams that they're visiting
you and like it weirdly, like it was like she
was still alive in my dream. I could hug her
and stuff like that, and it was just and you
could feel the hug. Yeah, it was very powerful.

Speaker 5 (40:55):
So that's visitation one oh one. The interesting The main
thing is when you when you hug someone and you
feel that physicality of that hug. That's always I think
a visitation interesting.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
Yeah, And I've had scary dreams too, but like stuff
like that one. It was just scary.

Speaker 4 (41:14):
My it was I think it's like not far after
my grandpa, grandfather passed and it was like he was
just like a meat puppet. It was like really weird
because it was almost like that he shed this skin
and something else was in it. And I always think, like,
what were more positive ones when I've had visitations in
my perspective of like them at least being within my

(41:34):
dream and me being able to maybe physically touch them
or hug them. But there's also been where I feel like,
do you think that it's possible that entities could like
enter your dreams and manipulate them in any way?

Speaker 5 (41:45):
Oh? Absolutely absolutely. When we when we were sleeping, we're
very open and as a result, entities interact with us
all the time and they can attack us. Don't worry
anybody that's listening. We we we are dominant in this
is our domain. In the physical world, nobody can harm you.

(42:07):
Nobody can hurt you unless you allow it in some way,
because this is really this is our domain. But when
we are sleeping, we're more in that liminal state of
between and absolutely, just like our loved ones can come
visit us, different entities can come and interact with us.

Speaker 4 (42:26):
Do you think that negative entities are influencing stuff within
our reality, because it definitely feels like that in some
regard that maybe people I was just writing an episode
about this. I was like, ah, should we do this
for around Halloween or say, but just about possession stuff
like that. And it's interesting because I feel like, you know,
it's the same way in regard to I've always said that,
I think you know, people can get possessed when they're

(42:47):
under the influence of alcohol, because it's spirits, and then
you see this person that like acts totally different when
they're sober, and then they drink and it's like a
totally different person, right, yeah, do you think that possibly
they're probably interacting with us all the time.

Speaker 5 (43:02):
It's more than possible. It happens. It happens all the time.
I can see it. So, as I said, I cannot
see spirits as like walking entities. I see in my
mind's eye and I feel textures of energies, and I
see it on people. So it does feel like seeing,
but it's subtle seeing or subtle hearing. We can talk

(43:22):
about that anyway, and I can see the change. I
can see the attachments that are interacting with people when
they are And it's not only alcohol, but yes, when
people drink a lot, it definitely makes them more vulnerable.
Because I'm not talking about somebody who has two wine

(43:44):
and they're a happy, tipsy person. We're not talking about that.
We're talking about usually when there are problems with alcohol,
but it's not only alcohol, when there are problems with depression,
when there are problems with anxiety, when something goes completely unchecked,
because we're remember, we're mentioning things that are also normal.
Just like we're not talking about the two wine happy drinker.

(44:06):
We're not talking about someone that has normal, even a
little above normal levels of anxiety. But when things really
spin out of control, we are, you know, the psychic connection,
the spiritual connection is with our consciousness. So when things
really spin out of control, we do become vulnerable and
open to attachments, and it kind of feeds on itself.

(44:28):
So then somebody's depression can be fed even more by
these negative attachments and these negative attachments that are affecting
and making the depression even worse, and it kind of
makes you feel stuck. And that's the thing with possession.
It's not something that happens like this. It's not like
this person says I want to be possessed by the devil,

(44:50):
and all of a sudden the double came, then they're possessed.
It's really kind of a cyclical gradual of the person
basically giving up their own integrity, their own connection, their
own independence, their own worth. So it really is all connected.

(45:14):
So if anyone is drinking and they're happy and they're fine,
and it's a way to expand rather than a way
to escape, you are not opening yourself up to attachments.
And even if you are, when you are generally balanced,
you can open. You can have a negative experience, maybe

(45:34):
an entity will be pulled to your energy and mess
with you a little bit. And as soon as you realize,
either if you have that spiritual knowledge and awareness you
can realize that it's not you, or even if you
have if you're not spiritual at all, but you realize
kind of shake yourself out of it, that's enough for
that attachment to be done. So attachment doesn't have to

(45:57):
be permanent. It's really about vulnerability that can be very
very temporary, and in that temporary moment, we can interact
with negative entities and then we can shut it and
they're gone, just like that. But it happens all the time.
It's a reality. I've experienced it on myself, I've seen
it on other people. It's a reality. It's real.

Speaker 4 (46:18):
Yeah, I feel like there's a lot of people in
power that are probably possessed by some sort of demonic
creatures just the way they act without no empathy in
these absolutely some of these hybrid bloodlines and stuff too.
It's interesting because you know, if you got like see
some of the actions and stuff that people are doing,
and it is like, I just think like that a
lot of the leaders around the world don't have like

(46:39):
empathy towards anybody. I'm like that's not a human thing
to I already said to be human is to be humane, right,
So it is interesting where it's like, how does that
get cut off?

Speaker 3 (46:48):
And I do think that it could be this idea
of like possession or whatever. Right.

Speaker 4 (46:53):
What are some of the strangest encounters or things that
you have had along this journe maybe with channeling or
reaching these other levels of consciousness and reality.

Speaker 5 (47:07):
So they're different if you're talking like manifesting in the physical.
I've had visitations for my mom that were physical with electronics,
the microwave, turned on, stuff like that, volume changing itself,
bring yourself up on different devices, stuff like that. Also
physical manifestation. This past June, I saw with my physical

(47:32):
eyes for the first time. Yeah, I saw a fairy.
So that was really cool and really wild, not only
to know that it's real, to know that they are
at least somewhat physical and that we can see them
and other people around me could see it. It was
really really exciting, uh element Yeah, But in terms of
like weird weird, I would say some of the information

(47:54):
that comes to the channeling is so wild, and the
more open I became, the stranger things get. But even
from the beginning. Like I said, I'm very driven by curiosity,
and really fortunately for me, very very little fear is
just natural to me, to my makeup. It's not that

(48:17):
I have no fear, but comparing to the average person,
I have very very very very little fear. So I'm
very very lucky in that way. So when I started channeling,
and when I became more and more convinced of the
reality of it, when we got more verifiable information, I
started asking for more esoteric stuff, so me and my group,

(48:41):
because when I channel, I can't be the one asking
the questions, so my group are the ones asking the questions,
and I'm in the channel state. So for example, one time,
we were interested about the hybridization program, so we wanted
to keep to speak to the hybrid children.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
So I aga, so.

Speaker 5 (49:00):
I made a call and this voice came through me
saying that she is a caretaker and they're on a
spaceship in the Earth atmosphere, and they heard my call
and they agreed to communicate. And there are a few
hybrid children in the background selecting who is going to
be the representative that's going to come through me. I'm like,

(49:21):
all right, And then he was selected and came through me.
And this voice sounded like a little child, like how
can I like like if I spoke like this, you know,
like a little child speaking and this voice he said
that we can call him Alonzo. That selected the name
Alonzo for himself, and he is one of the hybrid children.

(49:43):
We started asking a lot of questions. How do they
learn about humans, what is the timeline for them to
come interact with us, what do they do for fun?
What do they think about us? All kinds of questions,
and there was a lot of wild information and in

(50:04):
general connecting to different galactic races and getting information. Some
of them are physical, some of them are non physical,
they are different perspectives. It gets really really wild, And
the wildest thing is that it's all about to become
physical for us. Right so until now, there are mostly
stories that we hear, but that's going to change. So

(50:28):
more and more beings are here in the physical. We
are raising our frequency, so more and more beings that
before were spiritual to us are going to become more
physical to us just because we are changing our frequency.
So we're going to have more and more physical contact.
And even hathor So I channeled the Hathors, which I

(50:49):
see now it's alwayst the end of the show with barely.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
We can carry on for a little more. I was wondering, what, uh,
it's just a yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (51:01):
So that's my that's my book from this year, conversations
with Hathorp, channeling the Divine Feminine, a lot of wild experiences.

Speaker 4 (51:14):
Your mic cut out mhmm, yeah, yeah, it says that
your mic is uh there, there you go.

Speaker 5 (51:28):
I don't know what happens.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
It happens, it's like just things.

Speaker 5 (51:32):
Okay. So so with Hathorp, so I've been channeling them
for five and a half years, but about midway of that,
they all of a sudden came through with this really
remarkable announcement that okay, we're here in the physical on
Earth once again. We're no longer this spiritual just spiritual

(51:55):
beings that you're channeling. Now we're physical people like peopeople
on the planet. We are in a secure location. They
will not tell me exactly where, or will not disclose
to others exactly where. And they said that they're here
in the physical as a part of preparation for contact

(52:16):
to become fully physical with me and with others, not
only with me, it's no longer personal just me. It's
really more general.

Speaker 4 (52:25):
First with individuals, do you discover these entities and like
do you know where they're like where they where they from?
Like is it any connection to like Lemeria or any
of that kind of I'm just curious of like what
kind of how it became where you started talking to
them and then like did you kind of find out
like what star system they're from or all those kind

(52:48):
of quiet you know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (52:49):
Like, yes, where are you? Oh yeah, there's a whole right,
so there's a whole book of that just about Hawthars
and where they're from and their interactions with humanity and
the history and yes, so there collective from the Serious
Star system. More recently, they mentioned that they were physical
beings in Serious B in a planet on the Serious

(53:10):
B star and they were what we would call amphibious,
a water dwelling when they were physical. But since then
they have ascended just kind of like the process the
humanity is going. Now we're raising in frequency, we're going
to the next octave. So they also went through different
stages of evolution and eventually became non physical and ascended

(53:35):
as a collective that's where they identify themselves as a
serious Syrian collective. Not that they're now in the serious
star system, but that's where their identity as a collective
was formed. That's where they graduated evolved from physical beings
into more and more light beings beyond the physical.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
Do you think that they will like there's all this
to talk about, like disclosure, and and obviously like the
government's releasing more things. Uh, you know that we never
thought that they would, you know, And it's just it
is interesting, right, I know, I think it was not
like kind of recently the Israeli government came out and

(54:17):
said that they found they found a weird something really weird.

Speaker 4 (54:19):
I can't remember what it was. This is like maybe
a couple of years ago. But there's the American governments
doing this. The Canadian government did this with the one
of the defense ministers where he came out and said
that they're aware of I think he said five beings
that are interacting with with Earth. And he said this
like in front of like not a court necessary, but
almost like almost like parliament.

Speaker 5 (54:40):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (54:41):
And it it's interesting because like it seemed I just
it seems like there's more chaos now than ever, especially
in my lifetime. I'm thirty four, so i've you know,
I lived through the nineties, which seemed to be the
height of the civilization of like a place like Canada, right,
and now it seems like it's declining in some regard.
And and do you think that, like these these entities,

(55:03):
do you think it needs to get worse before it
gets better, because I find like humanity is only getting
worse and only getting more like where there could be
civil wars and war and all the stuff that is coming.
And my whole view is I think that the elites
and the people that are in power are desperate to
try to stop us from realizing what's being done to us.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
But I want to know what kind of your thoughts
about this.

Speaker 5 (55:27):
Yeah, I absolutely agree. So this is the worst before
it gets better. It's not going to get much worse
than this. But the idea, well, the idea is that
it's not the things are getting worse necessarily, is that
they're becoming more transparent, more obvious, more apparent, more coming
up to the surface.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
So people are noticing.

Speaker 5 (55:49):
And so political systems were broken beforehand. Corruption has been
in place for very very long. Autocracy and the financial
divide has been increasing for a very long time, so
this is not new. But what is new is the
level of transparency that we have into everything that's broken,

(56:11):
everything that's wounded, everything that needs to be replaced or restructured.
So all of this is coming to the surface so
we can choose differently. So those systems that we're already
have been in place can break down and can fail.
They're not going to fail if we're going to continue

(56:33):
sweeping everything under the rug and kind of trying to
move on while ignoring it. So that's why it seems
this way. So, first of all, the world is smaller
than ever. We have TV, we have the internet, we
have cameras everywhere, now we have AI. So the world
is smaller because half of the things are fake, you know.
But not only that, but energetically and consciousness wise, everything

(56:59):
has to come to surface so we can shed light
on it and choose with full awareness how we want
to move forward. And many of us already know how
we want to move forward. You know, if you really talk,
if you could take a survey of the people of
the world and see how many people want peace and
want to live equal life for everyone, Just peace, just

(57:22):
live and let live just communities. I think it would
probably be easily the majority of people.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
I think it must be.

Speaker 5 (57:29):
And let's say it's not majority. Let's say it's ten percent.
And I don't think that's I think it's way higher
than that. It's much much more than we realize right now,
because that's not what news is about. That's not what
this era is about. So in your life, in your
personal life, make sure that you're connected. Make sure that

(57:50):
you are loving to your friends and family. Make sure
you enjoy your pets or a little bundle of joys
that are like really pure love. So make sure you're
connect in your personal life. Make sure that you're not
being divisive and excluding in your personal life. But globally,
everything has to come up to the surface and be

(58:14):
aware that the worst of the worst is being projected
as loudly as possible all the time.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
So that's not all and contents and stuff.

Speaker 4 (58:24):
Right, Like they're Canada and like a lot of the
European countries have had this influx of like essentially massive agracia, right,
so it causes more of a divide. So you see
this with like with people they're like, you know, I
never really cared until it start coming into my backyard.
So it's just like people are starting to see, Yeah,
there's differences between culture, and I don't know if there's

(58:44):
a place where we're able to really like get through.
I want there to be, but it's so some people's
cultures and the way they think are very different. And
maybe this, you know, as much as I don't want it,
maybe this stuff needs to happen right for everyone to
kind of real I've always said this. You know, at
the end of the day, no matter who you are,
what skin color are, where you come from, the oligarchs

(59:07):
and the people that are really orchestrating a lot of
these wars and the bad things that are happening in
the world, if everyone just looked up at them instead
of looking at each other, so to speak, pointing at
each other, they would all realize that, right, And it's
kind of sad that we've gotten this far. Right, a
lot of people are coming staying in Canada for a

(59:27):
better life, but then the people that already live here
are having to pay for them to exist. Stuff like
that where it does cause and I think it's done
on purpose, where it's meant to cause division.

Speaker 3 (59:38):
You know the Dei type of stuff.

Speaker 4 (59:40):
Where Mark Karney and Canada they want to give half
a billion dollars to black owned businesses, and then you
know people that are like just naturally Canadian and my
family's been in Canada since sixteen o four, a long time,
and so it's almost like, well, we're shifted because of
this guilt stuff. So I find that a lot of
this stuff is shifting and a lot of people are
starting to know us like, hey, this is not fair,

(01:00:01):
and then eventually it's going to be everyone thinks it's
not fair. So I'm hoping that's where we're going, but
it is. It's a hard shift for a lot of
people to go.

Speaker 5 (01:00:09):
That's what the that's what the guys are saying, this
is where we're going. They've been talking about everything that
we're seeing now. They've been talking about it for several
years now, so we've been prepared and prepared and prepared,
and now it's happening now. It's much it's easier to
hear about things in theory and to experience them and

(01:00:30):
not be drowned by fear. But that's exactly what we're
being called to do.

Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
So yeah, because hate comes essentially from fear.

Speaker 5 (01:00:38):
Absolutely, absolutely, So make sure that you are abundant, that
your life is abundant, that your heart is abundant, make
sure that you know that you are speaking your truth.
Make sure that you are voting with your wallet and
with your actions and with your words. Where you spend

(01:00:59):
your money, you buy from that's that's how you practically
voice your exercise your power. So just do whatever you
can in your life and know that you are not
only rippling out from the people around you, but on
a consciousness level, you are rippling out to people that

(01:01:19):
are resonating in similar vibration to yours. So it goes
way beyond space.

Speaker 4 (01:01:29):
Yeah, because a lot of there's a lot of like division,
and it's just it is tough because people see one
thing one way, someone sees another thing another way. And
it is it is true that at the end of
the day that like, if we don't collectively come together
and realize maybe what's being done to us, like it's
not going to affect anybody. Well, right, some people may
be benefiting from some things more than others to some extent, right,

(01:01:52):
but at the end of the day, if we don't
all realize how bad this could get you know, because
at the end of the day, the people empower the government.
There's still raking in tons of money there.

Speaker 5 (01:02:02):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:02:02):
It's it's always the same thing of like the have
and the have nots, especially more than ever, and it's
sad to see the direction right especially people have kids
and well to have a better life.

Speaker 5 (01:02:13):
And rest assured that the direction is not a bad direction.
We're going in a beautiful direction. We really have to
keep the bigger picture in mind, like I said, so
we're not being bogged down by everything that's being magnified
right now our direction, even everything is accelerating. We know

(01:02:33):
that the last year things have changed more than the
last twenty years, and the last twenty years more than
the last one hundred years, and the last one hundred
years more than a thousand years. So it's accelerating. But
even if you kind of zoom out and look at
the bigger picture, you and I heard somebody said the opposite,
and I thought it was ridiculous. There's not more cruelty

(01:02:53):
now on the world, on the planet than there was
a thousand years ago or five thousand years ago. There
was much more cruelty, but today we're looking at things
with different lenses, with different eyes, with different sensitivities, different standards,
so we see everything with much more harshness. But it's

(01:03:13):
a good thing. It's because, like I said, our standards
are raising, our vibrations are raising, so their direction is
a good direction. We just have to again zoom out.
And that's the only way to kind of keep it
in mind, because if now we're completely immediately bogged down
by everything that's being projected to us all the time. Now,

(01:03:35):
so just take a step back and remember we're doing
better than we realize. We're headed in the right direction
and things because things are accelerating, and because we're talking
about things like contact with extraterrestrials that have advanced technology
that maybe they can share some with us, and how
would that affect the earth and more and more people

(01:03:56):
coming together. So we're talking about really accelerating, beautiful changes
that are going to start becoming more and more obvious
in the coming years. And one prediction that they gave
me recently is that somebody asked, so, okay, so they're
going to be these steps along the way towards open

(01:04:17):
contact and towards this, towards that, But what about all
the wars that are happening. How long until these new
frequencies anchor in this kind of way that we can
look around and not see all those wars and suffering.
And they said that about seven years. That it's not
like we need to suffer for seven years and then

(01:04:38):
a switch will be flipped. It is gradual and there'll
be major steps along the way, but in seven years,
wars will not exist the way that they exist today.
And that's really soon, you know, seven years, it's really fast,
it's really very soon and really excitingly.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
Yeah, that's what it should be.

Speaker 4 (01:04:57):
But there's a lot of things like a janitary thirty
and some of these things that are being pushed. But
I do you like I think that if if people
don't realize what's going on, I think there could be
some sort of civil war between different races or people.
Like it seems like, especially in America and places that
are going on.

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
It's not the the.

Speaker 4 (01:05:16):
Tumultuous tension is forming between a lot of different groups
of people and we'll see how that carries out. But
like I like to just to end on two more
kind of fun questions. Yeah, I want to know if
there's any readings or things that you read off of

(01:05:36):
me just out of curiosity obviously, And then when you're
talking to these spiritual guides, is there, so they're all
around us all the time, So are they Are they
ever gonna show their presence? Obviously there's things like Project
Bluebeam where people think that they could be faked or whatever.
But is there eddying gonna be do we know if
there's at least in the next ten to twenty years,

(01:05:58):
are they gonna make it?

Speaker 5 (01:05:59):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
Is it going to be a large scale thing or
is it going to be gradual kind of thing?

Speaker 5 (01:06:03):
Both so gradual but gradual and like we said, accelerating
so gradual to like really big things. And yes, we're
talking about open contact. We're talking about different beings showing up.
Like I said, it's first going to be for individuals
and groups, but then it's going to end, which is
actually already happening, but to different degrees. But yes, we're

(01:06:25):
talking some mass public revelations, interactions with different beings, lendings,
introduction of different civilizations that are already interacting with the earth.
One of the things that the guides said through me
is that disclosure is not about us making contact with

(01:06:51):
new beings that are coming to the planet. Disclosure or
open contact is about our awareness expanding so we can
see and remember and hold and comprehend the reality of
other beings already being here.

Speaker 4 (01:07:13):
M hm, that's interesting. Yeah, And just as last thing,
because I'm like, I'm always curious to the people like
their psychics or channelers, if they ever liked you. Is
there any like vibes that you got off of me?
Did you read anything? Just out of curiosity because it's
you know, obviously like I don't know how it works
or anything like that, or if you can do it
throughout a screen or if you just catch little things

(01:07:34):
or why I don't Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:07:35):
Screening or phones, it all works. It doesn't matter because
it's all energetic. Now, generally, I don't read people unless
they ask me to, unless they like they get a
reading and then I tap into their field. But I
can tell that you are a lot of fun, that
not only a lot of fun, that fun is really
really important to you. And I feel like that's something

(01:07:57):
that was also in your family, so you're not alone
in there, so you would have siblings and other family
members that have similar culture. I'm seeing families like barbecues,
and stuff like that when you guys get together and
have a lot of fun and just a part of
your culture and it's something that's important to you, something

(01:08:17):
that you love, and it's something that you don't want
to give up. And the guide so there's a part
of you before I say with the guys saying, and
there's a part of you that's afraid that you will
have to give it off if you were to commit
to a spiritual life or if somehow you were asked

(01:08:39):
to step on to the next level, that you're going
to give up fun. And there's a part of you
that says, but I don't want to give up fun.
And to that, your guide and you hire yourself are saying,
don't worry. It's a part of who you are. You
were you selected this kind of life and this kind
of family and this kind of siblings and this kind

(01:08:59):
of neighborhood and environment. You selected all of this intentionally.
You would not be able to do everything that you're
doing already and that you're supposed to do and keep
the good attitude if you didn't have that side of
your personality. So you know, every person deals with things differently, right,

(01:09:20):
So for me, I'm like chimes and meditation, and it
works for me. I love it. I love it. I
don't do it because somebody is forcing me. It's really
who I am. I found my path and my nature
and it sits well and it feels natural and it's great.
So your guides and you higher self. Advice to yourself

(01:09:41):
is to embrace who you are because you're not asked
and you will not be asked to give it up.
It's a part of what drives you and what allows
you to do things with the flavor that you bring.

Speaker 3 (01:09:55):
Yeah, well, I like to find on the show.

Speaker 4 (01:09:57):
It's a whole point, is like to embrace that that side, right,
And yeah, I thank you a lot for coming on
the show. I think it was interesting. Right, It's always
interesting with a lot of you know, guests like you.
I get an email and someone's like, hey, would you
be interested in this guest? And mostly I'm pretty open,
like I will talk with anybody, you know what I mean.

(01:10:18):
I don't have any like whatever discriminations towards like anybody,
whatever topic. Someone's like, I'm I hung out with Bigfoot.
I'd be like, sure, come on the show, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:10:26):
What I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:10:27):
So I always I'll open the door as long as
it's like in the strange realm, right, Like, there was
someone who emailed me that they were I think they
were an ex prostitute that changed their life or whatever,
and I was like, and then got involved with like
biker gangs, and I'm like, that's strange.

Speaker 3 (01:10:45):
I guess, so like that could be something.

Speaker 4 (01:10:46):
So it's always interesting because without the show, and this
didn't start happening until the last couple of years where
I was able to get but people were.

Speaker 3 (01:10:54):
Sending me emails before that.

Speaker 4 (01:10:55):
It was me and my friend created the show and
we're just having fun talking about the paranormal and and
conspiracies and stuff. And because the show has grown, is
gave me the ability to talk with people like you
and have people shout me out and be like, hey,
would you be interested in this guest?

Speaker 3 (01:11:09):
Right, So I enjoyed our time.

Speaker 4 (01:11:12):
I thought it was interesting and like, I don't know
if it's in my head or not, but why I
tell you, I did get a weird I've got a
couple of weird feelings, just like I don't know how
to explain. People can't explain. It's like it's almost like
the hair staying up on edge where you just feel
like an energy go through your body. And then sometimes
I'm like is it my mind? Because I'm telling me
this time, like you know, so there's all it's funny.

(01:11:32):
I'm such a believer, but I'm also a skeptic, so
I'm also like, is this just my mind? Because you
think of like it in a psychology way. Is it
just my mind making up these sensations? But I can
say usually interesting, when usual, when I talk with people
like you that are like a spiritual healer or connected
this stuff, I do get like strange feelings I normally
wouldn't get from say someone one of my friends or

(01:11:54):
whatever another guest maybe talking about something political or something
like that. Right, So, and I enjoyed you coming on,
and I want you to tell people where they can
find you, how they can pick up your book all that,
like shout your stuff right now?

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (01:12:07):
Yeah, So I have two books out and a form
of spirit communication board you mentioned the WIGI board. I
have the archangel board that I designed and published like
almost twenty years ago now. But Conversations with hathor Channeling
the Divine Feminine is my latest book, and my first
book is Conversations with the Earth, and this is the

(01:12:29):
first book documents all the wild different sources like the
datas and Arctorians and anything you can imagine. My website
is Yuffi Channeling dot com y a Fi Channeling dot com.
You can find the books there or an Amazon. You
can join my Sunday group where I channel every week,

(01:12:51):
or you can get a reading or learn how to
channel yourself. I even teach that. So if you're interested
in channeling or light language, which we didn't even get
to touch with this another really cool thing, come to
my website, check out my YouTube. Join the family, Join
the Hathor family.

Speaker 4 (01:13:11):
Okay, all right, everybody. Interesting conversation to say the least,
you know, It's like, I don't know. I like I said,
I'll talk with anybody, you know, And I'm not a
type of person to bring up any political things or
all that stuff. For some of the fans that probably

(01:13:32):
caught some stuff or whatever, But like it is interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:13:35):
I don't know. I don't know what to.

Speaker 4 (01:13:36):
Believe with a lot of this stuff. I had more
of a belief when I was younger. But it was
interesting and like she was a nice, nice woman, very positive.
Sometimes that's nice for the show. You know, we talk
about a lot of negative stuff and crazy things that
are happening in the world, but always this show was
supposed to be an outlet, a way to you know,

(01:13:57):
like take people out of their everyday life, especially if
they're going through stuff, and give them the ability to
laugh and think about something different. That's why I created
the show to reach people. And that was an interesting conversation.
Like I said, I'm open to having anybody on the
show that is it has a strange story or an experience,
and I'll give them the floor and they can show
out their stuff. And it's just you know, there's a

(01:14:18):
lot of strange people out there, and you know, I
was always interested in this, like spiritual healing stuff and
aliens way before I got into like the very deep
conspiracy stuff that i've you know, last you know, probably
ten years at this point before the you know, I've
been doing this for a long time, but before that,
you know, when I was younger, in my teenage years,
it's more.

Speaker 3 (01:14:38):
Like spiritual like aliens and the parenthormal.

Speaker 4 (01:14:42):
So I always appreciate conversations like this because it brings
me back to to why I do this and why
I'm interested in this, and you know, I and I
do think that like a lot of the world and
the country and a lot of places on the plant
right now are declining in a in a very rapid way.
But conversations like this, as much as it may be

(01:15:03):
fantasy or whatever, it gives me hope, you know, and
I hope that she is right, that maybe there is
some sort of energies and entities that are more positive
that are maybe going to balance this world out, and
maybe this is all being done on purpose to help
us ascend to a high level. I've always liked that idea,
you know. I've let's do a lot of David Wilcock

(01:15:25):
and listen to his books, and he was more positive
like that, you know, and had connections to some of
this aspects of like beings and channeling.

Speaker 3 (01:15:35):
So now an interesting conversation.

Speaker 5 (01:15:37):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:15:37):
For all of you that support the show, I appreciate it.
Give us five stars, like comment on the videos.

Speaker 3 (01:15:44):
It does more than you think, Like I appreciate everybody
that does tune in and listen and watch. It means
a lot, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:15:50):
He can go subscribe to Patreon's a There's a couple
of new things up on there. We have a ton
of stuff on the Patreon already, but there's some videos
that you will only see on patre On. You'll hear
the audio edited, but you won't hear the full video
and uh and any of that. So, yeah, interesting conversation.
You know, I'll talk to anybody, you know, and you know,
I always leave it up to the the audience somewhat.

(01:16:13):
If I do I truly believe in this stuff, it's
kind of up to your own discretion and your own
thoughts and beliefs of is this all just bullshit or
is it real or whatever?

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:16:25):
Uh, you know, And I'm open to talk to people
no matter who they are, what walk of life they
come from, if they have something to say, you know,
I'm open to hearing it, right, especially like you know,
you need more that, you know, positive sometimes. I love
you know that that that that more positive aspect to
the show sometimes because I just were like, oh, yeah,
the world's gone crazy. AI is going to take over,

(01:16:48):
you know, all that all that shenanigans. But yeah, please
support the show. It means a lot. I love all
you guys, the host heads out there, no matter who
you are, where you come from. I really mean that
and you know, try to spread the love a little
more often on the show. You know, I have my
own takes on things that are going on. But despite that,

(01:17:09):
I do hope that humanity finds some peace and solace
through all this chaos that is taking place to get
us a self destruct on our own. So obviously people
in power can take more power and uh and full
total control over all of us.

Speaker 3 (01:17:22):
So interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:17:23):
Yeah, I goes away if you're if you're interested by her,
go check out her stuff obviously, her book, her YouTube,
you know, and uh, yeah, I appreciate you guys for
tuning in. Thank you again, and stay strange.
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