The Architect of Truth | Richard Gage Breaks Down the 9/11 Lies! - Strange Brew Podcast!

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Speaker 6 (01:17):
Welcome back to the show. Everybody, Welcome back. I'm your host,
tomcat Ak, Tom Thompson. I'm very excited for this episode.
We have a very special guest, mister Gage. You know,
please welcome everybody from the San Francisco Bay Area. Architect
Richard Gage AI, a member of the American Institute of
Architects and founder and former CEO of Architects and Engineers

(01:40):
for nine eleven Truth.

Speaker 4 (01:41):
He is now leads the charge the charge for the New.

Speaker 6 (01:44):
World Trade Center investigation along with his courageous wife Gail
at Richard Gage nine one one dot org.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
Welcome, sir, Welcome, sir. I'm very excited for this. Thanks
Tom me too.

Speaker 6 (01:56):
So do you want to like tell the audience a
little bit about yourself, maybe you get into like how
you end up Like I feel like I've heard, I've
heard of your organization. I've heard of your name definitely
before because I've been very interested in the whole conspiracies
regarding nine to eleven. And you know, for a lot

(02:17):
of people that get into this movement of kind of
being awake and questioning the reality that we kind of
exist in and who pulls the strings and the power structure,
so to speak. You know, nine eleven is very it's
the foundations for a lot of people of like starting
to question, Okay, what is the government capable of if
this is something that there was some sort of inside
job regarding you know, the collapse of the towers and

(02:41):
all the lives that were lost. So I'd like to
like kind of brief the audience on your background and
kind of how you got interested in this.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
Yeah, I was shocked.

Speaker 7 (02:55):
In two thousand and six, I'd never heard any alternative
theory as to how these towers came down or that
there was a third tower. So here I was listening
to David ray Griffin on the radio KPFA's Guns and
Butter program in the San Francisco area, and I was

(03:16):
in my van, my mini van, on the way back
to the office from a construction observation meeting. I'm hearing
David ray Griffin, who has now written fourteen books on
the subject of nine to eleven, and he was talking
about the evidence that we're going to be talking about today,

(03:37):
and tried to tell me that there was a third
skyscraper that came down. I'm going, what are you talking about.
I'd know if there was a third skyscraper that came down.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
What is this?

Speaker 7 (03:49):
And then he was talking about the ejection of steel
out of the twin towers, the ends of the beams
dripping with molten metal. I've gone, this is weird. He
was talking about one hundred and eighteen first responders who
are witnesses of explosions, many of which before the towers

(04:11):
even came down. And this was all new to me,
I mean, all this evidence. I had to figure it out.
So I went back to the office and learned that
he was going to be in town that the next day,
and I at the Grand Lake Theater in Oakland, California,

(04:33):
and I went and guess what, they were sold out.
There were six hundred people in that theater at that time,
the good old days of nine to eleven.

Speaker 4 (04:44):
Truth.

Speaker 7 (04:45):
I couldn't even get in. I had to go home
and listen on the radio. So not the radio, the
live stream, which they had at the time, just beginning.
So I was just shocked. I put together a PowerPoint,
took it to the work, to my work, and fourteen

(05:07):
architects that I worked with all came to see it.
And because I bribed him my bottom pizza, they had
to come right So, because the many of them thought
I was just nuts talking about this stuff. What are
you talking about? I going, no, no, man, this is real.
So they came and at the end of the presentation

(05:29):
forty five minutes, they all raise their hand. Oh my god,
you're right.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
I didn't know this stuff.

Speaker 7 (05:34):
These are controlled demolitions, we have to have a new investigation.
So those are my first fourteen architects and engineers for
nine to eleven truth Beside myself, I guess I was
the first one. And now we have three thousand, six
hundred signed on to the petition demanding a new investigation.

Speaker 6 (05:55):
It definitely feels like they're not going to expose what
really happened because there is so many questions. Right, there's
like muhamma Ata passport was just found in the rubble.
There's so many like weird coincidences. You could say, I'm
not someone that necessarily believes in coincidence.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
I think like things happen for a reason.

Speaker 6 (06:13):
But like the this steel beams cut on like a diagonal,
Like there's so many weird things that people can point to,
and and like the there is all the video footage
of the like firefighters being like, you know, we heard
an explosion, and and I just I feel like it
would if they ever to reveal at least and more

(06:33):
of an investigation into it for the mass population to view.
I don't I think that it would start opening the
doors for so many other things that do you think
that they would actually let this get out I don't.

Speaker 7 (06:46):
I don't know, Uh, they will. As a matter of fact,
we have Senator Ron Johnson who came to speak at
our conference in Washington, DC a couple of weeks ago,
three days. He was the keynote speaker, as a matter
of fact, and he basically called for a new nine

(07:09):
to eleven investigation. We met with him in his office,
ten of us family members, firefighters, architects, engineers, and we
we're forming the basis together now for a real Senate
hearing on the truth about what happened to at the

(07:31):
World Trade Center.

Speaker 6 (07:32):
That's awesome and we kind of need that, and like
especially if you know a lot of people lost their lives,
a lot of families got destroyed, and it's you know,
if it was me, you know, there's even people like
famously like Pete Davidson's dad, the comedian, his dad was
a firefighter who died in nine eleven. I would like
making my life's mission kind of to like figure this
out because it did affect so many people. And you know,

(07:57):
like I heard you on Jake shield Show, I thought
it was really put together. Jake Shields is you know,
he pushes the boundaries. That's kind of why I like him,
and he has his own thoughts and beliefs about things, right,
And we already kind of covered a lot of the
Israeli connections when we went live, so I kind of
want to get to your presentation so we can kind
of expose more of the layout of how you, you know,

(08:18):
found all this information and all the research that you've
compiled after all these years. And you know it's going
to be I think, pretty interesting for the audience. You know,
we had fans that were shouting you out to come
on the show, and it worked out perfectly, So I
hope everyone is excited. We'll bring up the presentation now
if you like, and we can kind of get started.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
Oh sure, yeah.

Speaker 7 (08:39):
I just want to give people a little bit of
forewarning here. The the implications of this, Evans is what
strikes us most deeply. People can understand the seventh grader
can understand the evidence I'm going to be showing today.
To be as physicist or an architect or an engineer
to see this stuff, but you have to you have

(09:02):
to have courage to digest it because this implies rather
explicitly actually that this was an inside operation elements within
our government, and like you suggest foreign elements are involved,

(09:23):
and this was shocking for me. When I heard this information,
I got real angry. I mean after I after I
was through with my denial, which went pretty quickly for me.
As I heard the evidence, I felt like my world
turned upside down and I wasn't the same again. I

(09:48):
had to get to the bottom of this. I'm an architect.
These are buildings. The buck stops here. I mean, just
it fell on my shoulders. I could feel the weight
of it. And in addition to being angry for being
lied to on a massive scale along with a billion
other people or so yeah, and.

Speaker 6 (10:07):
We thank you for like your courage and stuff, because
like not a lot of people would do this right
and expose this information right, because there's you know, a
lot of people that are implicated in this right, and
it is strange, Like the Israeli connections are strange.

Speaker 8 (10:23):
Right.

Speaker 6 (10:23):
They went on live television and they're like, we're there
to document the event they were found with bomb residue.
There's just so many and we've already broken that down,
but there's just so many coincidences, Like how is there
all these different passports found in the rubble.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
It's just almost too convenient.

Speaker 6 (10:39):
But then it's like, you're right that a lot of
people are in denial and don't want to acknowledge this stuff.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
Like I remember during COVID.

Speaker 6 (10:46):
I've been awake to a lot of the stuff that's
going on for a long time, probably at this point
seventeen eighteen years, since I was a teenager. And I
remember during COVID, we don't have to get in too
much because we wanted to be on YouTube. But like
I remember, I was like, you know, this is being
done on purpose to my death. Like I'm like, there,
this is the government is doing this to gain more
power and control over the population and obviously push a

(11:08):
medical experiment in some regard. And he was like why
would they do that? And I'm like that you don't.
They don't think like you are me. These people that
are in control of the world don't. They don't think
like us. They they don't have any empathy, at least
from what I've researched and looked into a lot of
these people, they don't have empathy. It's all about power
and control, and some of them are probably just truly evil.
But there's a lot of those reactions. You know, I

(11:30):
just want to get that out there when you were
talking about that, because it's true. A lot of people
just don't they don't want to acknowledge how maybe evil
the world is, and how there is people capable of
doing events like this to gain power and control.

Speaker 7 (11:43):
Yeah, that's absolutely true, Tom, and and I try to
bring it softly to people. For instance, we after at
this conference two weeks ago, headlined by Senator Ron Johnson,
former Congressman Dennis Cacinach, former Congressman Kurt Weldon, Lieutenant Colonel

(12:07):
Anthony Schaeffer, and many architects, engineers, family members, firefighters all
spoke the truth. And I began my presentation about World
Trade Center seven, which most architects and engineers know nothing about.
I mean, I'm one of ninety thousand members of the
American Institute of Architects. We didn't get one bulletin on this,

(12:29):
the third worst structural failure in modern history, and it's
like it's been swept under the rug. They do not
want us to know about it. Well, this is taller
than most of the buildings in the building, any building
in most of our states. This building seven forty seven
stories each flora the size of a football field, massive, building.

(12:54):
It just seems dwarf next to the Twin Towers, which
were the tallest buildings in the world at the time
they were built. It was about a football field at
length away from the North Tower. North of the North Tower,
and it did suffer a little bit of damage. NIST,
the National Institute of Standards of Technology, who was tasked

(13:15):
by Congress to explain these collapses to the American people,
said that this was not a significant factor. Though in
the building's collapse they highlight the damage in red, particularly
seen here in the diagram on the right and in
the photo. But the collapse, it says they happened on

(13:36):
the other side of the building. The initiation of collapse. Well, NIST,
who was tasked by Congress to explain these collapses to
the American people, they completely ignore lots of the evidence
that we're going to be seeing. Look at the collapse.

(13:59):
For instance, we have the east penthouse and the upper
left falls in an isolated event about six seconds prior
to the building coming down, and then it comes down
uniformly symmetrically into its own footprint.

Speaker 6 (14:12):
Clearly, it looks like a demolition and there's demolition experts
that I've heard even talk about is that say, like
you can clearly see that it is one. And it's
interesting because there was people that had access, especially in
the twin towers, to like the elevator shafts. There was
the art students that were claimed to have found propelling harnesses,
and like there's claims to a lot of these things.
But the fact that there was even I heard like

(14:35):
an x CIA operative that said that there was vans
going in and out prior to the event, and then
there was essentially like they had access they were doing
maintenance on the structural inside where the elevator shafts were.

Speaker 7 (14:50):
Which, yeah, and we'll get to that. That's all in
the twin towers. But regarding the actual collapse of Building seven,
here's the official narrative from seam Under of the NIST team.

Speaker 9 (15:02):
What we found was it uncontrolled building fires caused an
extraordinary event. The collapse of World Trade Center seven was
primarily due to fire fires.

Speaker 7 (15:13):
Okay, well we should look at those fires. Here are
the only fires that we have any evidence of in
this building. There few, they're small, and they're scattered throughout
the building as you can see. And so we have
lots of questions about these fires, Where are they on
the floors that NIST says they started on Well, let's

(15:37):
not say that they started, but they the initiation of
collapse theory relies on fires on this floor, floor twelve,
which the photos show were burned out. But NIS says, oh, no,
we have reason to believe, which they don't give us,
that those fires were raging on this floor, and they

(15:58):
imply up until the time of the collapse. Well they
What they said about these fires is they expanded these
long span beams pushing this girder off of its seat
on this column seventy nine, causing floor twelve or floor
thirteen to fall on twelve and twelve on eleven and

(16:21):
so on for nine floors. Do you have this progressive collapse? Well,
guess what, We've never lost a steel framed skyscraper like this.
Ever they're fireproofed. We do before nine to eleven.

Speaker 6 (16:38):
Huh, I was gonna say that that, like they literally
build them structurally, so this does not happen.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
This can happen.

Speaker 7 (16:44):
It's never happened before in history, not before or even
after nine to eleven. When we have these fully engulfed skyscrapers,
not one of them has ever collapsed due to fire.
So we have to ask ourselves, well, what does it
look like? Well, you already called it Tom On the left,
we have a series of controlled demolitions. On the right,

(17:07):
building seven. Is there any similarity.

Speaker 6 (17:12):
To play up too, because we didn't. We mentioned Building
seven on the big live stream episode, but we really
didn't get to a lot of this evidence, which is
this is great because like a lot of people need
to see this stuff, and it's like quite clear, like
it looks it's so obvious once you see it.

Speaker 7 (17:26):
Well, when I said a seventh grader can pick this up,
actually a third grader can pick this up. So we
have to look at the evidence here and compare one
of the features of controlled demolition. Let's look at all
of them. We have a sudden onset of destruction, usually
at the base of the structure, like in building seven. Here,

(17:49):
let's listen to Dan Rather and see what he says
about this shot.

Speaker 10 (17:55):
Now here, we're going to show you a videotape for
the collapse of the self described What do you take
the collapse of this doling It's amazing, an amazing, incredible,
picky word for the third time today, it's reminiscent of

(18:17):
those pictures we've all seen too much on television before
when a building was deliberately stoed, destroyed by world placed
dynamite to knock it down.

Speaker 7 (18:25):
What was that dan, deliberately destroyed by well placed dynamite
to knock it down. We was using his intuition here,
like we all should, right, But we're told this is
a collapse by fire. But he knows what it is.
We've all seen the old hotels in Las Vegas. Now
he's never repeated these words after nine to eleven. In fact,

(18:46):
we've never seen Building seven come down on mainstream television,
with two exceptions which were early on. And again the
architects and engineers know nothing about this. We go to
conferences all around the world. We set up an evidence booth,
We show them the collapse of this building. We say

(19:08):
what does this look like? And they say, oh, that's
a controlled demolition. They all get it right. Well, did
you know when this happened? Well, what happened on nine
to eleven? What are you talking about? That's not one
of the twin towers. No, this is the third towers
that we start the process, right, Well, we started Building seven.

Speaker 6 (19:27):
At BBC or a BBC one of the news channels
said it was collapsed and it was still live behind them,
not collapsed.

Speaker 7 (19:35):
Yeah, we'll get to that, you bet. But one thing
at a time. Do we have a straight down, symmetrical
progression outside well into the building's footprint in the case
of Building seventh, let's look from West Street. Yeah, pretty
straight down, pretty symmetrical.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
How do you do that? Tom?

Speaker 7 (19:56):
You got to take out all the core columns at once,
at once within a fraction of a second of each other,
followed by what a second later the perimeter columns. Any
deviation in this pattern of building will begin to fall over,
and you don't want that to happen in a skyscraper, particularly.

(20:16):
So this is a very professional job, the largest controlled
demolition of its kind other than the twin towers, which
we will get to. So can these fires cause that
level of precision? You see the problem here? Any deviation

(20:38):
in the pattern of the explosives going off at the
right time, you get all kinds of problems like that
or this. Somebody's got to go back into that building
and fix those charges that didn't go off. Right. Buildings
that are damaged to one side, they fall over to
that side like this building in Asia, so we would

(20:59):
you don't want this happen either, But things like this
can happen naturally, not by fires. In this case, I
believe it was earthquakes. So we have to then ask
how fast does this building come down? Well, many physicists,
including physics teacher David Taylor, measured the building and they

(21:24):
found that it came down at free fall acceleration. Well,
there's no doubt about this, and this actually admits this.
But what does that mean. That's as fast as a
bowling ball falling out of the sky. There's no resistance
under the bowling. Yeah, it comes out so fast. That's

(21:44):
how it can fall that fast and faster and faster
each second the definition of acceleration. This building had forty
thousand tons of structural steel beneath it, which was designed
to keep that building from falling. It was read five
times stronger than it needed to be.

Speaker 6 (22:04):
Do we know if anybody like was there people inside
of Building seven?

Speaker 7 (22:09):
It was evacuated after both planes had hit the towers,
but there was something there. We'll get to that too. Yeah,
that's a good point. Ns acknowledges that it came down
at free fall for at least a third of its
seven second fall. Well, what does that mean? That means

(22:31):
that building had no resistance under it. Where did those
columns go? I mean, if it came down at free fall,
then where did they go? And al at once? And
how fast did these fires take them out? No, so
the next question, let's look at the pile see what

(22:51):
we can learn. We have a forty seven story skyscraper,
moment resisting steel frame structure where the column and the
beams are rigidly welded to one another, most of them
in the case of Building seven, and they are designed
not to fail. Those connections do not fail like and

(23:14):
even in natural collapses like these buildings which were damaged
by earthquakes, they fall over to the path of least resistance.
The columns and beams are not severed one from another,
the concrete is not pulverized to a fine powder. And

(23:35):
yet these fires are going to do that damage to
Building seven, we don't think. So let's look at something
that's more realistic, like explosions, for which we'd have witnesses
that hear explosions, they see them. Here is Daryl, a
medical student.

Speaker 11 (23:53):
We were watching the building actual because the rop fire,
the bomb fourth over the building on fire, and you know,
we heard this this sound.

Speaker 4 (24:01):
It sounded like a class of thunder.

Speaker 12 (24:03):
Turned around.

Speaker 4 (24:04):
We were shocked to see that the.

Speaker 7 (24:05):
Building was well.

Speaker 11 (24:07):
It looked like there was a shock waves ripping through
the building and the windows all bumped it out.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
And you know, it was horrifying.

Speaker 11 (24:15):
And then, uh, you know, about a second later, the
boss bo caves out and the building followed after that,
and we saw the building crashed.

Speaker 4 (24:24):
Down all the way to the ground.

Speaker 7 (24:26):
Okay, a sound of a clap of thunder, a shockwave
ripping through the building, the windows busting out, and then
the building coming down. Yeah, they're specific about the order.
Listen to Kevin mcpatten, former Air Force medic.

Speaker 13 (24:45):
You heard explosions like boo.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
It's like a distinct sound. It's not like when the
compression like boom boom, boom, boom boom.

Speaker 5 (24:56):
Like floors that were dropping and collapsing.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
This was bo like you felt a rumble in the ground,
like almost like you wanted to grab onto something.

Speaker 4 (25:05):
To me, I knew that was an explosion.

Speaker 7 (25:08):
There was no doubt in my mind. And what did
this gentleman see Bill Rizzotti.

Speaker 6 (25:13):
I was standing like two blocks away, and all of
a sudden, I just seen a big flash, and then.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
I seen the building coming down. And I just seen
people just running everywhere.

Speaker 7 (25:21):
A big flash and the building coming down. And Captain
Richard Patterson of the New York Fire Department.

Speaker 13 (25:28):
One seven let go as well, and was a series
of concussive.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
Explosions.

Speaker 7 (25:36):
And Patrick Dylon for first responder.

Speaker 8 (25:39):
I remember feeling that like it was like like freight
trains underneath the earth shaking, the earth even shaking me.
That's when we all saw a Building seven crumple in
the middle like a way up at the top.

Speaker 7 (25:55):
It buckled, it buckled and then dropped. Okay, And how
about the deputy director of the actual emergency management office
up on the twenty third floor of Building seven.

Speaker 14 (26:09):
Then he had to go into that building to assess it.

Speaker 15 (26:12):
He could hear the building creak above us, could hear
things fall because he's a fire burning.

Speaker 4 (26:19):
You can see.

Speaker 16 (26:20):
Columns just hanging from hpper floors, gaping holes in the
floors above us.

Speaker 8 (26:25):
There was an elevated car that was blown out of
his shift and was down the hall.

Speaker 7 (26:29):
An elevator car blown out of its shaft that was
down the hall. Well, here's the hall he's referring to,
on the north side of the elevator shafts which are
in here. And how can an elevator cab be blown
out of its shaft and be thirty to forty feet
down the hall if unless there's a huge explosion like

(26:56):
these witnesses heard. But all these explosions are actually denied
by NIST who was asked about them in there. They
did a report that came out seven years later. They
just deny all this. They said, oh, that was the
sound of the building collapsing. I don't think so. Listen
to this witness, Barry Jennings, who along with Mayor Giuliani's

(27:19):
attorney Michael Hess, had arrived at the building to a
meeting late. Didn't realize the entire building had been evacuated.
And they're on their way and they make their way
up to the twenty third floor, but they were told
to get out of the building. It's got bombs. And

(27:42):
they got back down to the sixth floor and this
is what happens to them.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Well, we got to the eighth floor, I started walking
to one side of the building.

Speaker 13 (27:54):
I decided that it was gone.

Speaker 7 (27:55):
The first responsion I heard when I was on the
stairwhee landing.

Speaker 13 (28:00):
We made it down to the sixth floor.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Then we made it back.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
To the eighth floor.

Speaker 13 (28:03):
I heard some more explosions, like a boom, like an explosion,
more than one.

Speaker 12 (28:12):
Yes, we started walking down the stage.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
You made to the eighth floor.

Speaker 13 (28:15):
Big explosion.

Speaker 4 (28:17):
Flu, it's back into the eighth floor.

Speaker 5 (28:18):
When we get outside, police officer comes to me and says,
you have to run.

Speaker 13 (28:22):
We have more information of bombs, so you have to run.

Speaker 4 (28:26):
Information of bombs.

Speaker 7 (28:27):
Bombs like this heard in the late morning of nine
to eleven in the Vicinity building seven.

Speaker 4 (28:32):
You can tell you I'm okay, all right, Yeah, you
want to.

Speaker 13 (28:35):
Call you, you want to call your mother.

Speaker 4 (28:40):
You have to get back, get back, don't worry about me.
You need to make calls.

Speaker 7 (28:46):
Right Know, Seven's exploded. Interesting, This tells us there's no
witnesses of explosions. You just heard a bunch of them.
Here's Chief Nick Foscani. Because if there was a controlled demolition,
people would know about it in an advance. They'd have
four knowledge. So Chief Nick Fisconti says, we're moving the

(29:08):
command post over that way. That building's coming down. Well,
wait a minute, how does he know the building's going
to come down? No steel frame, fire protected structure has
ever collapsed due to fire. Well, listen to Chief Pete Hayden.

Speaker 15 (29:25):
Well, we had our special operations people set up surveying
instruments to monitor and see if there was any movement
in the building. We concerned the possibility of collapse of
the building, and we had a discussion with one particular
engineer there and we asked him, if we allowed it
to burn, could we anticipate a collapse, and if so,
how soon? And it turned out that he was pretty

(29:46):
much right on the money that he said, in his
current state about you have about five hours.

Speaker 7 (29:51):
Whoa wait a minute, in his current state, you have
about five hours. No steel frame, fire protected struct sure
has ever collapsed due to fire alone. And now he's
telling us not only is it gonna collapse, but in
about five hours. And it does collapse in.

Speaker 4 (30:11):
About five hours.

Speaker 7 (30:12):
That's damn good forecasting could only have been made with
four knowledge. Of course, they won't give us the name
of this engineer. He remains anonymous. What about these mysterious
construction workers hearing walking away from Building seven and then
hearing an explosion over the shoulder, looking back at the building,

(30:33):
and then looking straight into the CNN camera saying this,
you're not if you're in a building, I.

Speaker 4 (30:43):
Think coming down?

Speaker 5 (30:44):
Still bring us boun to blow up? Back all right, guys,
back bars.

Speaker 17 (30:50):
Are looking back.

Speaker 4 (30:52):
It's the building. I want to blow up the pre
coming down.

Speaker 7 (30:59):
The building is about to blow up, flame and to break.
I mean, now now is it going to come down?
It's going to blow up?

Speaker 6 (31:06):
Yeah, that's it's crazy that like if you were, like
if you were a witness of this and then they're
telling you, no, that's not the way it happened, it
probably would make you quite furious of like their gaslighting
and the amount of witnesses and people that claim to
hear explosions, and there's so much evidence. Even the stuff
that you're showing, some of it I've never seen before,

(31:26):
and it's it would just be jarring to be like,
I know what I saw, Like you can't tell me
that I saw something different or heard something different because
you're trying to gaslight me into to telling a lie.
You know, it's just like crazy because a lot of
people did witness this. There was tons of people downtown, like.

Speaker 8 (31:43):
Well, here's another one of them, all right, And he
pointed to what turned out to be the entrance to
Building seven's lobby. He said, going there, going there, take
a break, take a break. There's other guys in there
like that. And that's what I did. I finished coming
down off the pile and climb over the wreckage of
VC or VESSI and went into in those revolving doors

(32:06):
and just kind of fell on the floor. There were
other guys in there doing the same thing. I was
just shaking their heads and spitting out poison and trying
to get their you know, get their lungs back together again.
As I was and I was on the floor, these
battalion chiefs come in through the revolving doors. There was

(32:27):
three of them. They had the white helmets. I didn't
get any any ideas off them. But as soon as
they stepped inside, what stepped in behind them with these
two people in black with black scheme masks on, and
and Uzzi's and the Uzi's were you know, hanging off
their necks. And I don't know what they were or

(32:50):
who they were, but the battalion chiefs started yelling at
us right ordering us to get out, Get out of
the get out of this building. Get out of this building.
They're going to pull the bill. Everybody out now, And
they ordered us back out.

Speaker 4 (33:04):
That's interesting. Well, yeah, it's wild. Yeah, the guys there
are gonna pull the building. What very strange. Yep.

Speaker 7 (33:12):
And that story about the oozies is corroborated by Captain
Richard Patterson.

Speaker 13 (33:18):
So I mean, and I made our way over to
the entrance to the building. Before we arrived there, it
was a construction worker who happened to be emerged from
the dust cloud and walked past the chief and I uh,
And he said he had overheard the chief's comment, and

(33:41):
he paused and said, that'll be coming down around five o'clock.
We part interesting to arrive at seven, and there were
two paramilitarily clad men with black rifles sunglasses, and as

(34:01):
we approached the entrance, they closed ranks and said one
of them said, this building has been secured, which is
odd because in my experience in the f d n Y,
anybody preventing access to the fire department in the event
of a fire, that's a criminal act. The Chief and

(34:23):
I were not in a position to argue the point,
given the inequality and weaponry present.

Speaker 7 (34:33):
Fascinating. The story just deepens. What about Kevin mcpatten. He
before he heard those sounds of explosions, which we heard
him say earlier, he and others were held back about
several blocks from Building seven because they were told it
was going to come down. And he's listening to a

(34:56):
radio held in the hands of who he believed to
be a Red crossworker, and this is what he hears.

Speaker 11 (35:03):
At the last few seconds.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
He took his hand off and you heard three two one.

Speaker 7 (35:08):
Wait a minute, do fires bring buildings down to countdowns?

Speaker 4 (35:13):
What is really going on here? Yeah, it's really strange, weird.
I didn't know that.

Speaker 7 (35:18):
And how did the BBC no this building was going
to collapse twenty minutes in advance.

Speaker 16 (35:25):
Now more on the latest building collapse in New York.
You might have heard a few moments ago was talking
about the Salomon Brothers building collapsing, and indeed it has
Apparently that's only a few hundred yards away from where
the World Trade Center towers were, And it seems that
this was not a result of a new attack. It
was because the building had been weakened during this morning's attacks.

(35:48):
We'll probably find out more now about that from our
correspondent Jane Stanley. Jane, what more can you tell us
about the Salomon Brothers building and it's collapse?

Speaker 4 (35:58):
Well only really what you already details are very very sketchy. Sketchy.

Speaker 7 (36:02):
Indeed, they're announcing the collapse of a building that's unprecedented,
twenty minutes before it even happened.

Speaker 4 (36:11):
How do you get that on that? What do we
know who owned that building?

Speaker 7 (36:16):
Yeah, this was.

Speaker 4 (36:17):
Owned by Larry Silverstein. And we'll hear about women in
a minute.

Speaker 7 (36:21):
Yeah, and we They apologize for this grievous error, citing
the confusing events of the day. What does somehow make
them psychic? What's going on here? We'll see ann announce
the collapse at eleven oh seven. Listen to this in New.

Speaker 13 (36:40):
York, Ellen dot Frank joins us on the phone in
Lower Manhattan, Alan.

Speaker 12 (36:46):
Just two or three minutes ago, there was yet another
collapse or explosion. I'm now out of sight. A good
Samaritan has taken me in on Dwayne Street. But at
a quarter to eleven there was another collapse or explosion
following the ten of the second tower, and a firefighter
who rushed by estimated that fifty stories went down the

(37:08):
street filled with smoke. It was like a fire, forest
fire roaring down a canyon.

Speaker 4 (37:14):
Now, is I think, Patty wow?

Speaker 7 (37:16):
Wait a minute. So had this building come down at
that time, at that time, we wouldn't have any video
evidence of it because it would have been completely completely
obscured by the massive dust cloud released when the twin
towers went down fifteen minutes earlier, the latest of them, so,

(37:39):
which completely engulfed Lower Manhattan in an incredible dust cloud.
So was it supposed to come down at that time?
Maybe those mysterious construction workers walking back into Building seven,
we're fixing a dud that was scheduled to drop that

(38:01):
building in a controlled demolition at that time under the
cover of all of this dust.

Speaker 4 (38:09):
That's a complete possibility. That kind of makes sense there.

Speaker 7 (38:13):
Yeah, we have experts agreeing. In fact, this one is
one of the top European controlled demolition firms.

Speaker 10 (38:25):
Danny Jowenko is the expert on this in Europe.

Speaker 4 (38:29):
What did he say?

Speaker 7 (38:30):
It is controlled demolitionator. There's not a score. There's a
team expers, a hired team by a hired job, by
a team of experts. How about three dozen structural engineers
signed on to the petition among the thirty six hundred

(38:52):
demanding a new investigation. Like Kamal obeyed of the in
the San Francisco Bay Area, a localized failure in the
steel frame bill like World Trade Center seven, cannot cause
a catastrophic collapse like a house of cards without a
simultaneous and patterned loss of several of its columns at
key locations within the building. Well, that is not something

(39:18):
fire is going to be doing, that's for sure. This
caught the attention of Professor Lee Roy Halsey, one of
the top FORENDSIC structural engineers in the country at the
University of Alaska, who did a four year study of
this building and found that through two competing softwares software
platforms that were they hoped to corroborate each other, and

(39:44):
they did. They found that Column seventy nine, eighty and
eighty one didn't fail as claimed by NISS. If it
was going to fail in the northeast corner, the building
would have fallen that way, just like if the the
building was gonna fail.

Speaker 6 (40:01):
Uh collapsing outside. For all the audio listeners, it's yeah, weird.
It's essentially we just collapse on its side.

Speaker 7 (40:11):
It tips over, just like if it would have tipped over,
if the damage on the southwest corner, the opposite corner
uh from the beams that hid it from the north
towers collapse, it.

Speaker 4 (40:25):
Would have fallen that way.

Speaker 7 (40:26):
But no, it does this, which is straight down uniformly symmetrically.
On the left the UAF video, just like in the
middle we have the video of the collapse. Compare that
to NIST's computer modeling on the right, which they says

(40:47):
matches very well. They say matches very well with the
the collapse. It doesn't match at all. They've they've released
four hundred structural steel connections failing every second. They still
can't get it to fall at free fall. It still
crumples up like a beer can. And they saw they
stop it because it actually begins to tip over after

(41:08):
two seconds into the global collapse.

Speaker 4 (41:11):
They stop. Given them trying to prove that it was
they can't.

Speaker 7 (41:15):
Yeah, they disprove their own theories. Is what happens here.
So the conclusions of the University of Alaska as the
fire didn't cause the collapse of this building. The temperatures
were not high enough to cause the weakening of the
steel framing. Thermal expansion did not result in a loss
of support for the beams and girders, and the collapse

(41:36):
of this building was a global collapse, a global failure
involving what the near simultaneous failure of all the columns
in the building, not a progressive collapse as claimed by NIS.
And so we have to say, well what, because the
University of Alaska didn't examine the actual cause of the

(41:58):
building's collapse. They just said what it couldn't have caused
its CLOPSEU. So we look at the evidence of extreme
heat provided by who, the FEMA, the Federal Emergency Management Associated.

Speaker 4 (42:10):
I wouldn't trust FA agency.

Speaker 7 (42:13):
No, Well, uh, they gave us some good information here
on a silver plotter actually in two thousand and two
when their Building Performance Assessment Team report came out this
metallurgical examination of the steel in both Building seven and
the Twin Towers. Because this evidence of extreme heat applies
to the Twin Towers now as well. But they say,

(42:37):
never before observed you tectic reactions involving in causing intragranular
melting capable of turning a solid steel girder into Swiss cheese. Yeah, weird,
like we see huh?

Speaker 4 (42:52):
Weird.

Speaker 6 (42:53):
That's strange, and it's like sometimes like I think that
they it's a slight of hand trick, right they kind
of tell you in the open.

Speaker 4 (43:00):
People don't really question it.

Speaker 7 (43:02):
Yeah, that's true. Well, this is a piece of building
set at the end of the steel beam from Building seven.
Fire doesn't do this to buildings. I mean to beams.
Steel beams. By the way, fire burns only about five
six hundred degrees typically maybe a thousand degrees, sometimes disclaims
eighteen hundred degrees. But still to melt steel. You're talking

(43:24):
three thousand degrees fahrenheit. Even in this piece of World
Trade Center to in tower steel, you have the thinning
of the beams to raizor sharpness, and that's crazy. It's
a complete erosion of the wide flanged steel beam. Rapid
oxidation sulfidation. Where does sulfur come from? They don't know.

(43:48):
Liquid iron, that's molten iron. Again, three thousand degrees fahrenheit
sulfur formed during this hot corrosion attack on the steel.
This is very valuable information which NIST did what with
They completely omitted it from their final report. Of course

(44:09):
they did, even though, of course they did, even though
the new York Times called it the deepest mystery uncovered
in the investigation. This speculated, well, maybe the sulfur came
from gypsum board. What gypsum board has never turned around
and attacked the steel that has been designed to protect

(44:30):
for one hundred years. So it didn't come from gypsum board.
And it's the author of this female report. Jonathan Barnett,
fire protection engineer says steel members in the debris pile
appear to have been partly evaporated in extraordinarily high temperatures. Well,
where what does it take to evaporate steel four thousand degrees?

(44:56):
And yet that's what we have. Evaporated steel, Like structural
engineer Albahazenistaniazl finds here, I saw a melting of girders
at the World Trade Center. You don't get this from fire.

Speaker 6 (45:10):
Now, I work with a laser that cuts metal, like
I work with metal and stuff like that, and it's
like you have to get it extremely hot. The laser
beam is like crazy, I can't, I can't, I can'tmera
how hot it gets.

Speaker 4 (45:22):
But it has to.

Speaker 6 (45:23):
And that's just like normal grade steel and it needs
like such a high temperature to get a clean cut.
And it doesn't burn away, it drips down, So it's
like it's very strange.

Speaker 7 (45:34):
Yeah, you're talking about four to five thousand degrees for
the plasma cutters.

Speaker 4 (45:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (45:39):
Here you have molten metal dripping out of the material
held in the hands of the crab call excavator. By
its color, we know it's temperature. We're exceeding twenty five
one hundred degrees fahrenheit. There's no accounting whatsoever any official narrative,
certainly not jet feel, which according to this engineer is

(46:00):
it burns only about six hundred degrees fahrenheit in open air,
so it's not going to melt steal either. Many sources
document six hundred degree melting temperatures. Fires at their worst
only get to be about eighteen hundred degrees the very
worst I mean the worst case experimental I mean mathematical

(46:28):
examples that they used to test steal with and it
doesn't melt them either. It can weaken them, but we're
not talking about weakening, we're talking about molten metal. What
can do that? Maybe thermite can. What is thermite anyway?

Speaker 14 (46:50):
Used by the military. Thermite is a compound of iron
oxide and aluminum, which, when ignited sustains an extreme heat reaction,
creating moldlton iron in just two seconds. Thermite can reach
temperatures over forty five hundred degrees fahrenheit, quite enough to
liquefy steel. We know that open air fires cannot burn

(47:15):
hot enough to melt steel, but metal had melted at
the base of the towers. Appendix CEA of the FEMA
report describes sulfur residues on the World Trade Center steel.
The New York Times called this the deepest mystery of
all Sulfur slightly lowers the melting point of iron and

(47:36):
iron oxide and iron sulfide had formed on the surface
of the structural steel. Sulfur used with thermite is called thermite,
producing even faster results.

Speaker 7 (47:49):
Interesting because if thermite were used, it would explain the
presence of this extreme heat gets four thousand degrees and
higher actually fahrenheit. It would explain the presence of sulfur,
which is added to thermite to become thermite much more

(48:10):
effective at cutting through steel. And it would also explain
the presence of elemental iron. What's molten is not steel
but iron, and yes, it's found in all the World
Trade Center dust. We're talking about evidence of ignited incendiaries

(48:32):
found by the US Geological Survey in their two thousand
and five particle atlas of the World Trade Center dust,
in which they find billions of what previously molten meaning
three thousand degrees fahrenheit iron meaning the byproduct of thermite,

(48:53):
molten iron spheres. How do they get spherical? Well, that's
what parisolized liquids or liquids under explosive pressures do they
form themselves into small spheres? So because of the surface tension. Well,
the EPA says, this is a signature component of the

(49:14):
World Trade Center dust. It's not even World Trade Center
dust unless it has these previously molten iron microspheres. In fact,
up to six percent of some of these samples are
just that four tons by extrapolation, and all the World

(49:36):
Trade Center does put together up to four tons. The
RJLE Group, another environmental consulting firm that does studies of
this dust, says they're formed during the event, not before
by the iron workers putting the building together, not afterward
by the iron workers cutting the building apart. But therefore

(50:00):
during the event, Well, where do they come from? We
could do an experiment. Tom All we have to do
is light some thermite. It's easily available. You can buy
it on eBay and you can light it. And that's
what's happening here. We're lighting some thermite. Yeah, that's like,

(50:21):
oh yeah, we're lighting thousands of looked like thousands of sparks,
but they're they're cool and they fall into the pan
as previously molten iron microspheres. It's so fast, fascinating. Well,
that's all evidence of ignited thermite, and it can only
be that. Is there any evidence of unignited thermite in

(50:46):
all the World Trade Center dust? Yeah. A team of
eight international scientists led by Neils Herritt in Copenhagen and
Stephen Jones in the United States. They analyze the dust
sam that are sent to them because they started getting
real curious about the dust samples, and seven independently collected

(51:09):
samples and they look at them very carefully, said, gosh,
these red gray chips.

Speaker 4 (51:15):
They look like paint.

Speaker 7 (51:17):
They thought they were paint, but unlike paint, they are
attracted to a magnet because they have an extremely high
iron content the ingredients of thermite. They go, wow, this
is interesting. Let's look at this red layer in more detail.
They through X ray energy dispersive spectroscopy. They determine that

(51:40):
it has levels of aluminum, one of the ingredients of thermite,
and iron one of the other ingredients of thermite, and manganese,
one of the ingredients of thermite. Fascinating. So they get

(52:00):
real curious and they zoom in fifty thousand times with
an electron microscope and they find what they find nanosized
particles of iron oxide and aluminum powder a thousand times
smaller than the diameter of the human hair. These iron

(52:20):
oxide crystals and aluminum platelets. They go, wow, this is
this is not right. What's the stuff doing there? They're
set in a bed of organic material oxygen, silica, carbon,
organic materials. What you add to TNT to expand rapidly

(52:40):
because the gases expand and they knock things over. That's
how explosives work, whereas in Cydia's work in scendiaries work
by means of massive heat. They burn things up. They go,
what is this stuff? They found out in the pere
reviewed literature's called super third explosive composites based on thermite

(53:02):
reactions whose fuel and oxidized constituents are intimately mixed on
the nanometer sized scale. This is all studied before two
thousand and one. You see, when they get these particles
so small, the surface volume increases exponentially and intimately mixed
they become The chemical reaction is virtually instantaneous. This stuff

(53:30):
is very, very advanced, and just like the pure viewed
literature where they put it in a heater, a differential
scanning calorimeter and measure the resultant energy after it ignites.
They prove that this is x an exothermic reaction. This

(53:52):
is exactly matching what was happening at Lawrence level more
lab so they know they have a thermatic material here.
Pretty darn interesting. Even more interesting, actually, what do they
produce when they ignite molten iron microspheres with the same

(54:17):
chemical reaction our signature as the molten iron microspheres found
by the USGS and R. J. Lee in their studies.
So we know exactly where those previously molten iron microspheres
came from. They came from these red gray chips. As
if we didn't know, they're found attached to partially ignited

(54:40):
red grade chips, so there's no question where they came from.
As we see here and here, this is a self
repeating set of corroborative experimental evidence that can be provided
to a grand jury for US special investigation to put

(55:02):
the real perpetrators away for a long long time. Because
this stuff is not made in a cave in Afghanistan.

Speaker 6 (55:08):
Well, I had a guy on that speculated that it
came from Israel, that there is a lab Indemona.

Speaker 7 (55:16):
I think, well, demonas where the nuclear weapons were created.
I don't know about this stuff, but it's possible. I
don't know, but it's This is a pure reviewed paper
in the Bentham Open Chemical Physics Journal. It's it was
produced in two thousand and nine. We've given it to

(55:37):
every congressman, every member of the media you know, for
the last ten years or more. The red layer is
unreacted thermdic material incorporating nanotechnology, which is a highly it's
a highly energetic and pyrotechnic or explosive material. So we

(55:58):
have the proof and we've given it to the US
attorney for a special grand jury investigation, and he sat
on it. We're going to be trying again. Yeah, And
we have all ten key characteristic features of controlled demolition,
with some very uncharacteristic features with the use of incendiaries. Also,

(56:19):
not one of these is evidence of destruction by fire,
let alone all of them. With additional circumstantial evidence corroborative testimony,
this becomes proof of controlled demolition. A body of proof. Yeah,
that's convinced three thousand, six hundred architects engineers to demand

(56:40):
a new investigation, And many of them appear in our
film series nine to eleven Crime Scene to Courtroom. We've
produced four episodes already. We're going to complete the building
seven episodes in a month or two and we'll be

(57:01):
onto the Twin Towers. But here's just a taste of
this series.

Speaker 5 (57:09):
No matter how improbable the conclusion may appear, and you
eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.

Speaker 17 (57:25):
We're bringing alive in the film the sixty exhibits of
the nine to eleven WTC evidence contained in the Lawyer's
Committee Grand Jury petition that have already been submitted to
the US Attorney in Manhattan to present to a special
criminal jury. This historic investigation is ongoing, and there's a
role for you in it.

Speaker 4 (57:47):
Yes, you can help us bring the real.

Speaker 17 (57:49):
Perpetrators to justice. Through this film series. We're bringing together
two dozen experts in their fields.

Speaker 18 (57:55):
They ignored any scenario involving in semiaries demolition work.

Speaker 4 (58:00):
You're going to set charges on each floor.

Speaker 12 (58:03):
The building could not have been brought down.

Speaker 13 (58:06):
By office fires.

Speaker 19 (58:07):
In other words, all of the impterior columns over eight
stories came down were basically lost. At once, I could
make out what looked like from a science fiction movie
both in lava okay.

Speaker 13 (58:24):
And paused and said, that'll be coming down around five o'clock.

Speaker 5 (58:29):
We'll be filming these evidence presentations not only for filings
with the grand jury, also a presentations to each.

Speaker 17 (58:36):
Of view We're inviting you to serve as virtual grand
jury during each episode.

Speaker 7 (58:51):
So we invite you to take a look at all
of our viewers here tonight A nine to one one
C two C dot org can catch up on the series.
All four of these fifty eight minute videos are available
for you to watch free there nine to one one

(59:11):
C two C dot org. And we'll be getting to
the Twin Towers in that series. After all, if Building
seven was a controlled demolish, we have to ask ourselves,
is there possibility that such a thing could have happened
at the Twin Towers, And unfortunately the answer is yes.

(59:31):
Just look at it They're shown here simultaneously being destroyed,
though the destruction was fifteen minutes apart, so that we
can show how similar they are. We have asymmetrical damage
from the fires in the airplanes, and yet the damage

(59:53):
is completely similar with upward outward arching streamers. A geometry
of fireworks freely flying structural steel sections weighing four and
eight tons laterally ejected at eighty miles an hour, clocked
by physicists landing up to six hundred feet in every direction.

Speaker 4 (01:00:14):
Yep, you guys have definitely done your research.

Speaker 6 (01:00:17):
It's I applaud you guys all coming together to get
this information out.

Speaker 4 (01:00:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:00:23):
Thanks, But look at the steel sections. What's trailing them?
Thick white smoke clouds? Why are thick white smoke clouds
trailing structural steel sections? Steel is not flammable in office
fire conditions, can't melt either. As we discussed, what are

(01:00:43):
these thick white smoke clouds. Well, let's look at a
thermite reaction. We see the molten iron. We also see
what thick white smoke clouds of what aluminum oxide ash?
And that's what we're going to be looking at here
among the body of evidence available to us, Just looking

(01:01:05):
at the features of controlled demolition, beginning with feature number one,
we have a sudden onset of destruction. Uh, the building
is standing at rest, the North tower, all of a sudden,
it's in uniform downward motion, no jolt, no hesitation upon
impact of the cold hard steel below. Same with the
South tower. It's standing at rest and all of a

(01:01:27):
sudden it's in uniform downward motion. Not away is itzy.
That's a dead giveaway right there.

Speaker 6 (01:01:34):
I think I've ever seen that those two footage, that
footage from that angle. That's crazy because you can clearly
see it's a boom boom boo as it's coming down.

Speaker 7 (01:01:43):
Well, what's even crazier, we're told that talking about gaslighting, Tom,
we have the upper section of the tower, the north tower,
dropping and driving the rest of the building down to
the ground after weakening of steel, and then it drives
the rest of the building down to the ground and
then destroys itself. This is the crushdown crush up theory

(01:02:09):
from Zodanic bizarre and he produced this mathematically obscure paper
just two days after nine to eleven and submitted it
for peer review within two days. Of course, it's become
the official justification for NIST's column failure theory. Well, the

(01:02:35):
rest of us are freaked out during those two days, right,
who did this to us? When's the next plane coming?
We're trying to figure out.

Speaker 4 (01:02:44):
Not this guy.

Speaker 7 (01:02:44):
Apparently he's locked away in his den creating this paper
that took engineers ten years to decode. And I'll show
you what happened when they did. But it suffers from
Newton's third law of motion. Right off the bat, there's
an equal and opposite destructive force when two bodies collide. Right,
take a mac truck and run it into a Volkswagen.

(01:03:06):
Who wins the mack truck?

Speaker 4 (01:03:08):
Right?

Speaker 7 (01:03:09):
Does it matter if we drop the Volkswagen onto the
mac truck? No? No, the upper part, the lightest part
of the structure, cannot possibly destroy the cold, hard, heavier,
intact steel below. It's light at the top, and it
gets heavier and heavier and heavier until.

Speaker 4 (01:03:26):
About halfway down.

Speaker 7 (01:03:27):
It's fifty two inches by twenty two inches, and then
the steel begins to infill in these core columns, forty
seven massive core columns, almost solid steel at the bottom
fifty two inches by twenty But let's look and see
if the Volkswagen is being destroyed. I'll make it even easier.
Watch the lower red line indicated indicating the point of

(01:03:51):
jet plane impacts. Is there any driving of the lower
building down to the ground.

Speaker 6 (01:03:57):
No, you clear the upper part. An explosion on the
side though too. We played one of the videos and
similarly see the thing like almost like a yeah, like
someone farting your I don't know how to explain it,
but it's like.

Speaker 4 (01:04:10):
We'll get to that.

Speaker 7 (01:04:11):
In fact, they've become so clear in the section on
isolated explosive ejections. But notice that the Volkswagon a top
ear is being destroyed itself in the first couple of seconds.
There's nothing left to drive the rest of the building
down to the ground. It is, and look, if it
were there, we'd see it. None of the photos, though,

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none of the videos show a Volk's Wagon or an
upper part of this block driving the rest of the
building down. It's gone. If it were there, it would
have destroyed these few remaining core columns standing nine hundred
feet in the air for about ten seconds. No, what
we have instead is something very different. We have upward

(01:04:53):
outward arching streamers. We compare it here to a volcanic eruption.
Which one's the volcanic erupt and which one's building seven?

Speaker 4 (01:05:02):
Crazy?

Speaker 7 (01:05:02):
Excuse me? The twin towers. One of the twin towers
a geometry of fireworks freely flying solid molten objects trailed
by thick white smoke clouds.

Speaker 4 (01:05:17):
It almost likes the exact same it does.

Speaker 7 (01:05:20):
It's incredible. Yeah, the volcanic corruption is on the right,
but man, you could hardly tell them apart. That's it's
very different than this, isn't it. This was a complete
gas lighting exercise by Zideic Bizon of Northwestern University in Chicago.
More likely is this The explosiveness is driving outward arching

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streamers away from these few core columns that manage to
survive in the center, And so we have to ask
ourselves what could be causing? Is there any witnesses of explosions? Yeah,
there's one hundred and fifty six of them in twelve
thousand pages of testimony orally recorded within a month after

(01:06:04):
nine to eleven of these first responders, Great Professor Graham
and Queen read every one of them. We felt the
ground shake. One of them says, you could see the
towers away and then it just came down again and again.
You're gonna hear this order of events. The ground is shaking,
hearing something explosively, they're seeing explosions, are feeling exposed. Before

(01:06:30):
the tower came down, all of a sudden, the ground
just started shaking. It felt like a train running under
my The next thing we know, we look up and
the tower is collapsing. Shook my bones. Shortly before the
first tower came down, I remember feeling the ground shaking,
heard a terrible noise, and then debris just started flying everywhere.
I saw flash flash flash at the lower level of

(01:06:51):
the building, you know, like one thing demolish a building
with each popping sound. Initially an orange and then a
red flash came out of the building. Then we just
go all the way on the building on both sides.
Saw a number of brief light sources being admitted from
inside the building. Between floors ten and fifteen. He saw
about six of these brief flashes accompanied by a crackling
sound before the tower collapsed. I saw low level flashes.

(01:07:15):
I saw flash flash flash, and then it looked like
the building came down.

Speaker 4 (01:07:20):
That's great.

Speaker 6 (01:07:21):
I know there's a lot of witnesses, but like the
amount of people that saw some sort of flash going
off is pretty crazy. That's like like there's it's almost
like and that's what I'm saying, Like, you would be
so pissed if they were like, oh, yeah, that's not
what happened though, But like, I'm pretty sure I saw
what happened.

Speaker 4 (01:07:35):
I was there, you know. It's like froze people that
witnessed that.

Speaker 7 (01:07:38):
Yeah, one hundred and fifty six of these first responders.
It's amazing. The explosion appear to the very top simultaneously
from all four sides. Materials shot out horizontally, and then
there seemed to be a momentary delay before you could
see the beginning of the collapse. How specific does this

(01:07:58):
expert witness this fire chief need to be? There was
an explosion in the South tower one floor und or
another when it hit about the fifth floor. I figure
it was a bomb because it looked like a synchronized,
deliberate kind of thing. By the way, Nist says, there
are no witnesses of explosions after the plane hit the towers.

Speaker 4 (01:08:21):
Who controls nest.

Speaker 7 (01:08:23):
The Department of Commerce is over them. They are a
function of the Department of Commerce. Their leadership. Nist and
the Department of Commerce was changed by the Bush administration
when they came in. Interestingly, which doesn't happen usually with
administration changes. It seemed like on television when they blow
up all these buildings. Seemed like it was going all
the way around like a belt, all these explosions.

Speaker 4 (01:08:47):
The building was blowing out on all four sides.

Speaker 7 (01:08:49):
We actually heard the pops, you know, you heard the
pops of the building. I thought the terrorist planet an
explosive somewhere in the building. That's how loud it was,
a crackling explosive. Another loud boom at the upper floors.
Then a series of smaller explosions which appeared to go
completely around the building at the upper floors, and another
loud earth shattering blast with a large fireball that blew

(01:09:10):
out more debris lower level of the building, you know,
like when they demolish a building. That's what I thought.
I saw you see me? Flashes said, yeah, I thought
it was just me. He said, no, I saw them too. Everybody,
I think at this point still thoughts these things were
blown up, so I was fully expecting anything else to
blow up. You were there when the planes hit, No,

(01:09:32):
I was there when the building exploded, You mean when
it fell down, No, when it exploded. He's pretty clear
what he saw.

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
And so are these guys all the way down.

Speaker 7 (01:09:52):
Not one of these witnesses, uh are characterized by n
as witnesses of explosions. They I am to have interviewed
one hundred and sixteen first responders. They missed every one
of these, apparently one hundred and fifty six and more.
Do we have a straight down symmetrical collapse of fature
number three of controlled demolition? Well, actually, building too begins

(01:10:17):
to tilt to the left, So we have asymmetrical damage,
asymmetrical loading on the structure below by this part, that's
twenty two degrees off center, falling off the building, asymmetrical
damage for the fires, and asymmetrical damage from the planes.
How in the world, then, do we get complete symmetrical

(01:10:38):
damage after that, all the way around each face of
the building, just like the firefires described like a belt,
all these explosions. It makes no sense this given what's
going on up above. Well, let's zoom in on the
leading corner of these explosion waves and see what we
can find. I see about a dozen independent explosions in

(01:11:03):
this looped video, and you can even see one of
those squibs you were talking about, Tom.

Speaker 4 (01:11:08):
Oh, that's crazy.

Speaker 7 (01:11:10):
These are obviously individual explosions. This is not a nuclear
weapon going off has been hypothesized by some, and it's
not directed energy weapons weakening the steel as has been
hypothesized by.

Speaker 6 (01:11:26):
Believe there was planes, though, right, because there's people that
speculate that there wasn't even planes.

Speaker 4 (01:11:30):
They doctored the footage after.

Speaker 7 (01:11:32):
Right, one of those witnesses, I was picking up plane parts,
one of the fire department witnesses. I showed you earlier,
Captain Richard Patterson, under the direction of the FBI, picking
up plane parts, putting them in in the cart. We
have many witnesses of planes hitting in the buildings.

Speaker 6 (01:11:52):
Yeah, I believe there's planes, But we had in the
live show we showed somebody speculating that they added them
after and I'm like, it's a big stretch.

Speaker 7 (01:12:00):
To you know, Well, the witnesses are are prevalent. The
videos themselves are witnesses forty of them, actually fifty four
actual planes hitting the second tower. And there's much more
to discuss regarding plane evidence. We can look at the

(01:12:22):
evidence of the damage in the building itself and see
that there. But do we have isolated explosive ejections? You
call these squibs before, and that's what they're called in
the controlled demolition industry. They're occurring twenty stories down below
the zone's destruction, forty.

Speaker 4 (01:12:40):
Stories crazy down below.

Speaker 7 (01:12:43):
They even occur as far down as sixty stories below.
There's no accounting for these isolated explosive ejections whatsoever in
the official narrative.

Speaker 6 (01:12:55):
Yeah, for all the audio listeners. Odd the video also
to Spotify. But if you're on like Apple podcast wherever,
I suggest, go to YouTube rumble.

Speaker 4 (01:13:03):
It'll be on action and stuff too.

Speaker 6 (01:13:04):
Just yeah, go check out the video because this stuff
is more compelling when you actually see the visual evidence.

Speaker 7 (01:13:10):
Yeah, definitely check out the video evens. Also, if you
miss it there, visit Richard Gage nine to one one
dot org and you can see it here too. Where
on the South tower, before it begins to lean to
the right, we have a dozen independent explosive ejections destroying
the interior structure of this building. It allows it to

(01:13:34):
fall to the right. We then have to ask, okay,
how fast is this? These are these buildings coming down? Well,
the north tower is clocked by physicists yet again at
near freefall in this case actual freefall in the case
of Building seven, two thirds of freefall accelerations gaining faster

(01:13:55):
and faster every second the definition of acceleration. But it's
it's it's sixty four percent of free fall, meaning that
ninety percent of the structure has been removed. This structure
near the bottom, it's almost solid steel. So all those

(01:14:18):
core columns had to have been given way ninety percent
virtually at once on each floor, floor by floor, taken out.
Our fire is going to do that, No, not at
that rate too.

Speaker 6 (01:14:33):
How fast it is, because the idea is like a
you're hitting an ananimate object like the plane would be right,
and it would have damaged like that side of the
building whatever. But for it to come down as fast
as it did, it's like mathematically impossible.

Speaker 7 (01:14:45):
Right, yeah, absolutely, you're you're talking about. The only thing
to do this is explosives, and that's what we have
hurling these structural steel sections weighing four and eight tons,
exterior sections.

Speaker 4 (01:15:03):
This is what.

Speaker 7 (01:15:06):
Is almost that freefall is what the top section is
driving down. Actually it's able to come down because these
sections have been removed, these exterior sections are blown laterally,
and so we'll look at that lateral ejection because they're
impaling themselves on skyscrapers all around the building, ejected as

(01:15:31):
far as six hundred feet away, destroying the winter gardens
of the World Financial Center, destroying the Deutsche Bank building,
which had to be taken down. These sections, weighing up
to eight tons, are bolted one to the other. So
all the plane had to do was with a mass
of ten thousand gallons of fuel and the plane moving

(01:15:54):
as an object, impacting the side shearing the four bolts
that can connect the columns to the in this section
to the column below, and the four bolts for each
column to the column above. All it had to It
didn't cut the steel. It just popped the sheard off

(01:16:14):
those those bolts, and we can see them individually freely flying.
So they are ejected as a result of explosive pressure,
laterally ejected, trailing what thick white smoke clouds? Back to
forward to why are they trailing thick white smoke clouds? Again,

(01:16:37):
steel is not flammable in office fire conditions or jet fuel,
So what are these thick white smoke clouds? We saw
they were aluminum oxide ash the other byproduct of thermite,
and this one's about to hit Building seven. How does
gravity work down? What's going on here? Out? It's laterally ejected, right,

(01:17:01):
we'd expect in a pancake and collapse. Everything to go
down here is out up to six hundred feet. There's
enough energy here to hurl a two hundred pound cannonball
three miles. And that's a lot of cannonballs, hundreds of them,
one hundreds. So we're beyond a twelve and even a

(01:17:21):
fourteen hundred foot diameter outside each of the towers. By
the way, if that's true, and we just saw that
it was. If one hundred thousand tons of steel framing
in each tower is distributed outside the footprint, well outside,
what's crushing the building? This is a third of the

(01:17:42):
weight of each of these buildings, not even available to
crush the building below it. None. If it's distributed in
a twelve to fourteen hundred foot diameter outside each tower,
what's crushing the building? Maybe it was a concrete because
we're looking for some concrete, lots of it. In fact,

(01:18:03):
one hundred and ten floors each an acre in size,
poured over metal deckings supported by lightweight steel trusses. We're
looking for one hundred and ten of these assemblies. We
don't find fifty, we don't find one, we don't find

(01:18:24):
one acre sized floor. We don't find a half acre,
a quarter acre, a sixteenth of an acre. They're gone.
Compare this to a real gravitational collapse in Bangkok, Thailand
because of the me and Mar earthquake recently, where we
only had a thirty three story building creating five or

(01:18:49):
six or ten stories of debris of pancakes on the right.
Compare that to one hundred and ten floors on the
life left, where we don't see one pancake. Completely different,
very different destruction mechanism. Look at those guys on the

(01:19:09):
lower right, you can double them. Figure it's about five
or six story pile. Where did all the concrete go?
It's missing? Oh, there it is. It's pulverized in mid air.
Ninety thousand tons of concrete in each building pulverized in

(01:19:35):
mid air. What can do that? Explosives?

Speaker 4 (01:19:39):
Maybe? Maybe?

Speaker 7 (01:19:40):
Also the fact that concrete is powderized above fifteen hundred
degrees fahrenheit according to ASTMs C eight five six. This
American Society of Testing Materials. This report shows that concrete
is returned to its d composed hydration products at fifteen

(01:20:03):
hundred degrees.

Speaker 6 (01:20:04):
Into dust most like a gravel aggregate.

Speaker 7 (01:20:09):
Gravel, yeah, powder, cement, powder, And this is demonstrated by
the Fire Safety Journal too, they say twenty two hundred degrees. Well,
how hot is thermite for a thousand degrees twice these temperatures.
Do you think that could paratterize that much concrete if
sprayed on the bottom of the concrete slabs, Yeah, we

(01:20:33):
think it could pulverize. And by the way, if all
of that concrete is pulverized and distributed again laterally outside
the perimeter of the World Trade Center, filling the streets
with a blanket three inches thick, is it available to

(01:20:55):
crush the building. No, it can't crush the building and
be way the hell outside of the World Trade Center complex.
So that's neither the steel, which is a third of
the weight of the building, nor the concrete, which is
another third of the weight of the building. Two thirds
of the weight of the building, was not available.

Speaker 4 (01:21:16):
To do this. As weather claiming that it's like pushing
it down.

Speaker 7 (01:21:20):
Exactly as it's falling exactly, and that's what this paper
is all about that Sydentic Bazont of Northwestern University.

Speaker 4 (01:21:29):
Given us submission.

Speaker 7 (01:21:34):
Maybe, and not only that, he doubled the mass up
above by a factor of two, he decreased the column
strength below by a factor of three in order to
get this collapse going. So that's fraud upon fraud upon fraud.
It's completely rigged in favor of a collapse. And this

(01:21:58):
has been refuted by engineers like Tony Sambodi, Richard John's
Gregory Zuodolynsky, who have submitted their own peer reviewed paper
challenging Bazon's peer reviewed paper, but they won't publish it.
The American Society is American Society of Civil Engineers said
it's out of scope. Wait a minute, how is that

(01:22:19):
out of scope to publish a challenge to a paper
previously published in that journal?

Speaker 4 (01:22:26):
You think they're getting threatened?

Speaker 6 (01:22:27):
Do you think that's possible they were threatening some of
these people for trying to expose this stuff.

Speaker 7 (01:22:32):
Well, we know that I haven't been threatened, and neither
has Tony's Embodi, Richard John's Gregory Zuolinsky.

Speaker 4 (01:22:41):
But actually, yeah, we.

Speaker 6 (01:22:45):
Start exposing this information, they're like, at least like warnings.
Kywaf and keep going this far, you know, like I've
heard similar things in other kind of false flag events.

Speaker 7 (01:22:56):
Right, let's go even farther than how do they get
this material in there?

Speaker 4 (01:23:01):
Well?

Speaker 7 (01:23:01):
Kevin Ryan researched and dig within dot net his blog.
He found that the floors that are associated with the
plane impacts and other floors were undergoing fireproofing upgrades in
the months and years before nine to eleven. And and yeah,

(01:23:21):
the floors that got hit by the planes had these upgrades.
Could they have been applying liquid applied nanothermite because we
know that nano thermite was liquid applied because it's dual
layered red and gray. Uh, And maybe that was sprayed
on the bottom of the floor slabs. Maybe that creating

(01:23:42):
four and five thousand degrees fahrenheit. We know now that
that can pulverize the concrete or decompose it. So that's
a possibility. And so we're looking at possibilities like that.
And like they had access to the elevator shafts, they'd

(01:24:02):
have access to the core columns and beams in the building,
and maybe that would create quite a mess through the
because there's two inches of gypsum board at least surrounding
these hoistways. Well, what did seniors Senior database administrator Scott

(01:24:23):
Forbes find in the weeks before nine to eleven was probably.

Speaker 18 (01:24:27):
The week cleaning up to nine eleven. Every morning had
come in around seven am and the dust was incredible.
It was sealthy. It was like the cleaners were cleaning
right where the windows were. There was a sail which
inclosed radiators and was sick to death of the dust
which were appearing on the window sill. It was dirty,

(01:24:49):
gray and very very noticeable in that week cleaning up
to nine eleven.

Speaker 7 (01:24:54):
That's interesting because if they had access to the elevator
shafts like they did with the the largest elevator modernization
in the world documented in Elevator World March two thousand
and one, they would have access to those core columns
and beams. Where were those mechanics from Ace Elevator who

(01:25:14):
had this contract, came out of nowhere to get it,
took it from Notice Elevator, who had been who had
installed and had been maintaining these elevators for the life
of this building. They were not there on nine to eleven.
They were pulled out because there was a labor dispute
meeting that day, fifty of them pulled out of the building. Interesting, well,

(01:25:37):
we've got a lot more research to do there. Subpoena
power could help immeasurably. With Senator Ron Johnson in the Senate,
the chair of the Senate Subcommittee on Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, Do.

Speaker 4 (01:25:51):
We know who owned the company ACE Elevator?

Speaker 7 (01:25:55):
They know who owned it. I don't have that information here.
This was their only client.

Speaker 6 (01:26:04):
Because they would have access to like, you don't know
exactly who was going in there, right. I just I
do think the art student thing is very strange with
propelling harnesses and stuff. And it's just because I heard
that there's just people going through all the time to
the elevators, right, and they were having access to it,
and those conveniently fifty people were you not there?

Speaker 7 (01:26:25):
They had Yeah, it's very interesting to say the least
as is the disposition of the steel one hundred eighty
thousand tons of steal and easily the largest and most
perplexing structural failures in history. The steal was carted away
just two weeks after nine to eleven to send to
China for recycling, before investigators could get their hands on

(01:26:47):
it and do it proper. That's weird investigation. This is
the illegal destruction of evidence in a crime scene. Yeah,
prompting Bill Manning, editor in chief of Fire Engineering Magazine,
to crowd crucial evidence can answer many questions. Is on
a slow boat to China showing an astounding ignorance of
government officials to the value of a thorough scientific investigation.

(01:27:09):
The destruction and removal of evidence must stop immediately, but
it didn't. And so with the additional evidence for the
twin towers of molten steel and iron thermite and sendireas
which we saw already, this becomes a body of proof
that's convinced none of which can account for destruction by fire,

(01:27:34):
and all of which are evidence of destruction with explosives
and incendiaries. So with additional cooperative evidence and testimony, that
becomes proof of controlled demolition, a body of proof that's
convinced three thousand, six hundred architect engineers to demand a
new investigation. And again, they do appear in our film

(01:27:59):
series nine eleven Crime Scene to Courton. Be sure to
see that nine one, one C two C dot org.
We've produced four of them. We're working on episode five now.
The evidence of explosions at the World Trade Center. We
presented much of this evidence and a whole lot more
at our three day conference, which you can see because
it was live streamed by Clayton Morris of redacted. That's

(01:28:23):
Cool and the entire three days live streamed. It was
incredible and you can see it on his YouTube channel
Redacted News. And we can also see our landmark documentary
nine to eleven Explosive Evidence experts speak out, where we
had forty high rise architects, structural engineers, metal or just chemists, physicists,

(01:28:46):
controlled demolition experts, all laying out this evidence. Our fifteen
minute professional documentary narrated by actor ed Asner, just on
Building seven, solving the mystery of World Trade Center seven
and the story of the Professor Lee Roy Holsey of
the University of Alaska called seven, built by filmmaker Dylan Avery.

(01:29:12):
All of that is available for you on the website,
as is the outline of this evidence that we've been
presenting to you today in a brochure form. You can
download it for free, print it, give it to everybody
you know. You can get a n's one hundred of
them preprinted on our website because the truth about nine
to eleven is really important and much darker than we

(01:29:35):
have been led to believe. We prompted a six point
five trillion dollar global war on terror, and we've lost
our civil liberties through the Patriot Act, the Military Commissions Act,
the National Defense Authorization Act of twenty twelve, in which
any of us can be arrested without a right to lawyer,
a trial, a jury. We can be tortured and even

(01:29:56):
assassinated American citizens. And this has happened as a result
of nine to eleven, which has declared an act of
war because of the attack on the Pentagon. We're in
a surveillance state. All of our phone calls, our emails,
our text are systematically swept up stored in the largest
building in Utah for use against us. And that is

(01:30:19):
where we are today. So where do you draw your
lying in the sand. Do you just say somebody else
will take care of it?

Speaker 18 (01:30:25):
No?

Speaker 7 (01:30:26):
I didn't come here to talk to just your viewers, Tom,
I came here to talk to everybody you guys know
out there, share the Tom's podcasts, especially this one, with
those you know. If you care about your country, or
you wouldn't be like this guy put your head in
the sand.

Speaker 4 (01:30:44):
No, it's crazy.

Speaker 6 (01:30:45):
And I'm Canadian and it impacted us here also, and
our government is becoming more authoritarian every day and it's
getting pretty crazy up here, you know. And just by
trying to expose information, and I like on the show
we dance a line, we discussed controversial topics and stuff
like that, but we try to at least just put

(01:31:07):
it out there. We're just questioning. That's it, right. I
have a couple of questions before we wrap this up. Okay,
So what is your thoughts like on the dancing Israelis
and the whole like urban moving systems, Like what do
you think, like like you know, you don't have to
go to in depth, but like what is your thoughts
on that?

Speaker 4 (01:31:25):
Because it was quite quite compelling evidence.

Speaker 7 (01:31:28):
It is, you know, because they were said, they said
on national television once they were released after seventy five
days of captivity in the United States captivity, what.

Speaker 4 (01:31:42):
Do you call it?

Speaker 7 (01:31:43):
They were jailed and they said we were there to
document the event. They said, it's publicly they obviously had
four knowledge and they're dancing holding a lighter up in
the can and behind the lighter is the twin towers
on fire and obviously involved obviously four knowledge, So we

(01:32:07):
need a real investigation into Israeli involvement.

Speaker 4 (01:32:12):
Yeah, And when you.

Speaker 6 (01:32:12):
Think about Wesley Clark and like how essentially that dossier
whatever he got where it's like, oh, we have to
take down these seven countries and conveniently right, Like that's
what I'm like. Once when I was young and I
started looking at this stuff, I was like, Okay, I
just I thought it was the American government, right. I
never trusted the governments as a young young kid. I
think there's some of the music guys listening to and

(01:32:34):
stuff like that, and there was actually a comediana. There's
a hip hop artist that exposes a lot of the
stuff that went on during nine to eleven called a
moral Technique, and he and it's like I heard when
I was like fourteen, and it like it it kind
of exposed me to some of these like questions and
he he said, you know, he says four Arabs and
non Arabs were arrested during the emergency, so he doesn't

(01:32:54):
even point but he does point to the fact that
like Israel was training the Taliban to be freedom fighters
and stuff like that during when they were going after Russia,
and it's just there is just there's coincidences, right, And
I was always like, oh, it's the government, right, it's
the connection to the CIA. But once I started, I
don't know, a lot of people started questioning, especially after

(01:33:15):
the whole this the Palestine stuff that's going on, and
I think it's pretty horrible what's happening there, right, And
people were already kind of pointing this direction to some extent,
but it wasn't until people really started to fixate on
Israel during the last couple of years. And it is
kind of convenient, right that this happens. And then they
go after all of these different countries that are their

(01:33:38):
regional enemies. And I've had guys in the show that
one was the military vet in Canada that went to
Kandahar and Essentia. He's pissed because he went there for
a lie, right, he thought he was protecting the country
and his people so they wouldn't come over here, right
kind of thing. And what do you think about that?
How It's just it just seems too convenient, you know.
And then the last one was supposed to be Iran

(01:33:59):
and then look where we are now.

Speaker 7 (01:34:01):
Well, yeah, and We also have to look at the
you know, why did we invade Afghanistan in Iraq if
neither of them had anything to do with nine to eleven,
including Osama bin Laden and certainly Saddam Hussein. Well, those
two countries surround Iran, the enemy of Israel. The seventh

(01:34:23):
country that General Wesley Clark said was to be taken down,
and this was two weeks after nine to eleven. He
walked into the Pentagon and was told by I think
was a general anyway, somebody who had worked for him
because he was head of NATO. He said, yeah, we're

(01:34:45):
going to take down five countries in seven countries in
five years. Well, almost all those countries except Iran has
been taken out, and we did almost get into a
direct prolonged war in Iran. Although somebody talks some sense
into Trump apparently, uh, if Israel would have had their way,

(01:35:07):
we'd be doing the dirty work in Iran.

Speaker 4 (01:35:10):
Also, it seems like that's what's been happening.

Speaker 6 (01:35:12):
Like the these uh, these implications are there for everybody
to see. Like eighty percent of Congress as dual citizenship,
seeming like the Senate too.

Speaker 7 (01:35:22):
Eighty percent. I think that's a high number, it.

Speaker 4 (01:35:24):
Might be a little high, but at least from what
I've heard, it's a.

Speaker 7 (01:35:27):
Yeah, I think it's more like ten percent. Yeah, but
it's huge. Nevertheless, there shouldn't be any dual citizens in Congress.
That's obviously by definition a loyalty divide percent.

Speaker 6 (01:35:41):
Yeah, I don't know, like I've heard different, Like even
the Senate was fairly high at least their connections. But
I think if you're higher up on the tier and
you have a dual citizenship, maybe higher ups in some
of the other people, you might have it more of
a say, right, and it's.

Speaker 7 (01:35:55):
Like ninety of them are taking a pack money.

Speaker 4 (01:35:58):
Yes, yeah, maybe that's lots of it. That's it.

Speaker 6 (01:36:00):
Yeah, all of them are getting your pack money.

Speaker 4 (01:36:03):
So it's like it's kind of convenient, right, and then
we give it.

Speaker 7 (01:36:07):
We give them three billion dollars a year and how
many billion comes back in the form of a pac
money to influence our our our own senators in congressan.

Speaker 6 (01:36:16):
Yeah, And I think it's happening here in Canada and
stuff like that too. I like politics is kind of
a game, right, it's political theater. And even the conservative
leader here I don't consider them really conservative because they're
not really conserving anything. In my opinion, our country is
being invaded right now and shifting our demographics very rapidly.
And uh, you know, he called himself twice on live

(01:36:38):
television a goy, which is essentially calling yourself like a
slave animal to to Israel, because that's what they consider people.
If you're not Jewish, you're a goya. You're less than
at least in their their point of view. Right, And
it's interesting that you have them saying the stuff live
on television. I have another question just about got the
Wesley Clark uh Clark well like and then obviously the

(01:37:00):
connection to Larry Silverstein. Right, he takes out of that
insurance policy, Like what do you think about that?

Speaker 7 (01:37:06):
Well, he acquired the rest of the World Trade Center
just two weeks prior to nine to eleven. He had
developed Building seven in the mid eighties, and and all
of a sudden, the Port Authority, a public agency, transfers
their control and ownership of the World Trade Center to

(01:37:31):
Larry Silverstein in a deal that was shady to begin with,
but get gets completed just two weeks before nine to eleven,
six weekscise me and and yes, he put massive terrorist
insurance on those buildings like they have never had before

(01:37:51):
when the Port Authority had them. And plus he was
being forced, well, the Port Authority was being forced by
the City of New York to a the asbestos in
the buildings. They couldn't afford to do it. It's a
five billion dollar project, So why would Larry silver team
even buy such a liability. He only paid three point
two billion for the towers and he had to put

(01:38:15):
five billion in. Uh did he know in six weeks
that he'd have his free asbestos abatement at the expense
of the health and life of New Yorkers.

Speaker 6 (01:38:27):
Yeah, it seems like he had four knowledge like that.
It just there's too many coincidences, right, He's like I
used to, you know, I went for breakfast every morning
at one of those restaurants within the towers, and then
he's not there that day because he's got some doctor
appointment or something that he said, Yeah, yeah, it's just
so strange. Yeah, I appreciate you, uh like you coming on,

(01:38:49):
appreciate your people shouting us out to be able to
do this. I would definitely uh be interested he maybe
having you back on at some point. I just want
to I had any closing thoughts about like where you
think that we're headed in the world right now, considering
all the tensions in the Middle East and in Israel
and just Trump and all this, do you have any
thoughts for the people out there of where you think

(01:39:11):
we're kind of headed, because we're obviously going towards just
like surveillance. They were pushing digital IDs in the UK.
Now Canada is probably going to start pushing that stuff. Like,
what are your thoughts on on the direction that we're headed.

Speaker 7 (01:39:24):
Well, in terms of a nine to eleven investigation, we're
making progress. Senator Johnson has promised one and we're working
with him his staff now to get that. So we're
we're we're expecting results the nine to eleven truth movement.
He's he's put his foot, you know, in the water

(01:39:45):
deeper than Tucker Carlson and others. So we're we're we're
excited about that opportunity. As far as the rest, I was.
I was hopeful when Trump first came in because of
the promises, and I'm actually us hopeful now because of
the lack of fulfillment of those promises and the engagement

(01:40:07):
uh In in genocide of the Palestinians, uh, and other
problems he's created around the world. So I'm I'm I'm
feeling a little deflated internationally.

Speaker 4 (01:40:24):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 6 (01:40:25):
Uh, it is interesting because we're all like, you know,
you gotta have hope and stuff like that, but like
the world is going a crazy direction, right. I just
had a kid and stuff, and it's just like it
makes you think, like, what the what does the future
hold for all of us?

Speaker 4 (01:40:38):
Right?

Speaker 6 (01:40:38):
I didny't want to end it like that, but this
is essentially like a lot of crazy things going on, right,
And it's just and this was probably some of the
best evidence. And I've looked in this stuff for like years,
as I said, and I was aware of you and
your work, probably before I even recognized this stuff, like
a couple of years ago and hearing stuff you on
Jake Shield Show and other stuff. Uh, because I was

(01:41:01):
watching the when you know, the when YouTube used to
be cool when you can find stuff like pretty easily.
Now everything's kind of sensored to some extent. But uh, yeah,
it was really interesting and I think you break it
down really well, and I uh, you know, the audience
should go support your stuff. Are gonna get you to
tell everyone where to find you once again, but make
sure you had to watch the video really, like you know,

(01:41:24):
it's it's quite compelling, all the evidence that you guys
have accumulated, and I know that you have even more, right,
So it's uh, it's people need to see this stuff,
right everyone. I think anyone that has a brain at
this point should question the events of what happened on
nine eleven. Now there's definitely speculations of who committed it,
who profited from it, and and all that in that regard.

(01:41:46):
But yeah, tell people where to find you, uh, you know,
and I tell the audience should should support people like
you that are putting your neck out there to expose
this stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:41:56):
You know, thanks Tom.

Speaker 7 (01:41:57):
Encourage everybody to see all the evidence so that we
just discussed here at Richard Gage nine to one one
dot org, especially the film Crime nine to eleven crime scene,
the courtroom, which you can see on this website here too.
And I support us.

Speaker 4 (01:42:16):
We we we.

Speaker 7 (01:42:18):
We're full time, Gail and I my wife, and we're
we're not gonna stop until we get a real investigation
and one that's unimpeachable, one that uses the scientific method
and they cannot be corrupted Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:42:34):
Well, I appreciate you coming on the show. This is
pretty exciting. This was probably I I've had many different
guests on the show. I never was supposed to start
like that. It was supposed to just be my friends
talking about strange things going on in the world or conspiracies, right,
And it's gave me the opportunity to talk with people
like you, And it's been awesome to be able to
have conversations with someone like yourself. I really do appreciate

(01:42:57):
you coming on. It's it was an eye open in
conversation a lot of the time. The whole time, I
was kind of speechless, just because like the amount of
evidence that is there I've always seen. I've researched it myself,
but it's very compelling, how laid out and how it's
just it's undeniable at this point, right.

Speaker 7 (01:43:14):
Isn't it. It's a stupid, silly easy so anybody can
get it. So you guys don't sit on this information,
spread Times podcast everywhere. We've got to get this information out.
You got to save our country.

Speaker 6 (01:43:30):
Yeah, I appreciate that everyone support the show, Support Richard
Gage's stuff. Go to Richard Gage nine one one dot org.
Make sure you support, you know, five star rate and reviews,
all that good stuff. It does help a lot share
the show out there. I'm sure a lot of fans
are going to really enjoy this. There was already fans
wanting you to come on, So make sure to put
out there everybody and everybody out there, stay strange and

(01:43:53):
question it all. Okay, awesome, all right, awesome, Thank you sir.
I really.

Speaker 4 (01:44:06):
Appreciate the time. Thank you. Brother.

Speaker 7 (01:44:09):
Hey, do you know any other podcasters who might want
this information to reach their audience?

Speaker 4 (01:44:16):
Yeah, I'll shout it up. I know a couple of people.

Speaker 6 (01:44:18):
See if my buddy, there's the one on one podcast,
there's a there's a American email you guys one one Yeah,
like j U A. N. He does the one on
one podcast. He's a buddy of and he has a
pretty big show. He's done fairly well. He's connected through
people like Sam Tripley. Also, you probably Reality is ours

(01:44:44):
like Reality and then see Z A. R. S.

Speaker 4 (01:44:49):
They would probably definitely be willing to have you on. Incredible.

Speaker 7 (01:44:52):
Gail has a little promo piece that she can email
you if you just forwarded to them, that'd be so awesome.

Speaker 6 (01:44:59):
Email and then I can talk to my buddies. There's
another guy I know, Inquarries of Our Reality. He would
probably love to have you on. So I got I've
got a couple of people in my pocket. I could
definitely say, hey, if you're interested, here check this out,
and then I'll send them your email and they would
probably really like to have you on Inquisitors of Reality
in uh, Inquiries of our Reality query Shane. Yeah, Shane's

(01:45:24):
a good dude, and he he would. Uh, he has
a ton, he's more of a he interviews guest where
on my show we do it half the time. Other
times it's BE and my buddies hanging out discussing this stuff.
And uh, he would probably

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