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Speaker 5 (01:10):
It's t best kids Strange. Welcome everybody back to the show.
Welcome back to the show. I am your host, Tom
kat Ak, Tom Thompson the Raptilian, and we have a
special guest for this episode.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Sir, would you like to introduce yourself.
Speaker 6 (01:30):
My name is Daniel Tyre and I'm the chairman and
founder of the Dominion Society.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
Yes, So if people aren't aware, I'm sure the fans
of the show will kind of be aware of the
content that you've been pushing out and stuff like that.
We're kind of in the same circle of people, like
I've always actually want to talk to Greg Wycleft two.
I've always liked his videos for he's been doing it
for a couple of years now, and you kind of
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popped on the scene. I feel like it seemed like
out of nowhere because I was doing this stuff like
for a while and I started seeing your videos and
they're professionally done, really to the point people that know
me like I have a little more aggressive and stuff
like that, and I just feel like it is good
to have people like you that are just professional in
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the way that they speak and do things, so it
can convey a message to everybody, not just like where
I kind of trigger people.
Speaker 7 (02:23):
I appreciate that. Tom.
Speaker 6 (02:24):
Yeah, I've been I've been involved in nationalist politics for
a long time before I launched the Dominion Society. I've
been working behind the scenes for the People's Party of
Canada for about five years, so I have been involved
in and around the scene, just not as much as
as a public figure. We launched the Dominion Society earlier
this summer in July, and like just as you put it,
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our big goal is to really professionalize the nationalist movement
and create a larger organization and like a coherent kind
of volunteer structure to kind of take Canadian nationalism to
the to the next level, and to bring it effectively
to the masses in a way that can appeal to people,
because I think we have an important message. I think
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we have a popular message, and I think there needs
to be more done to effectively kind of organize politically.
Speaker 7 (03:17):
So that's what we're here to do through the Dominion Society.
How old are you. I'm twenty nine right now.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Okay, okay, so we're not far I actually thought you
were a little young. I'm actually turned thirty four this Saturday,
so we're not far off. I actually thought you were
a little younger. So I was always interested, Like I
started seeing your videos and then I think I saw
I think I saw you on Zach show first the
schmid House podcast, and he I think was like, yo,
you should have Daniel on the show. And then it
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was like months and months later, and then I was
like I finally reached out to you guys to kind
of get you on the show. But what got you
interested in this? Because I was always interested in politics.
But even when I've had like Jeremy Mackenzie and or Derek,
we've talked about this where I'm like, I never aligned
with either side right or left my entire life. If
I've been aware of kind of the stuff since i
was very young, that, Yeah, the whole government structure is
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pretty corrupt, and I don't think necessarily anyone represents us
to the extent of especially the political right and left
that we get the choice from, Like the PPC is
a little different in the way, you know, Maxim Bernier
openly spoke out and did things right. But what got
you into politics and especially nationalism?
Speaker 6 (04:31):
Yeah, No, I'd been interested in politics from a very
young age. That being said, I did come up very
left wing, very liberal, I would say I kind of
started going through that kind of red pill journey through
twenty sixteen with the rise of Donald Trump and then
the whole Jordan Peterson story of it all, and that's
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how I started kind of waking up to things.
Speaker 7 (04:53):
That's when I was going through university.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
I was studying political science, and economics at the University
of Waterloo. I started in twenty fifteen, twenty fourteen, So
I was in school in this very political environment through
the kind of Trump era, and that's what started kind
of waking me up to this kind of to the
more kind of nationalist, globalist divide rather than the kind
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of left right divide. And at the same time, this
is really how I started waking up to the issue
of immigration, which is something I think Donald Trump really
really popularized. And at the same time, I was going
through university and I felt like every political topic that
we were studying all kind of tracked back to immigration,
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whether whether or not we were talking about issues of
our healthcare system or education system or the housing crisis.
Every single thing I kept noticing was tracked back to immigration.
And yet at the exact same time, while the Americans
were having these important discussions about immigration reform, in Canada,
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the numbers were just going up and up and up
and up and up, and at the same time, all
these issues were getting worse and worse and worse and worse.
So I really kind of latched onto immigration as a
major issue. I got into it from more of the
economic side of things, but I started to get more
and more interested in the kind of social cultural side
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of things as well, and that's what kind of drove
me into politics. So I graduated in twenty eighteen. This was,
you know, shortly after Berniaid got kind of screwed out
of the CPC leadership race, shortly before he launched the
People's Party of Canada. And when he did that, I
saw a big opportunity for young guys like myself to
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kind of cut through the kind of boomer rot in
the CPC and really get involved in a political party
in a way that we could be actually influential. So
I got involved in the early days of the PPC
myself as long as well as a lot of the
early supporters UH saw it as a sort of potential
nationalist political party. I don't think it really panned out
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as that, Unfortunately it's too bad.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
But that's during COVID. I saw the rise of that.
Like I went to a lot of the protests in
UH in Toronto. Like I couldn't make it to Ottawa.
I would like to. I I had buddies that went
cook for the truckers, but I would I went to
at least four times to the Toronto like there was
tons of US, thousands of US and a lot. I
have videos of me from back then, and it's interesting
because a lot of the people were wearing like the
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People's Party of Canada shirts, and I feel like there
was this big bush.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
To try to shift in that direction. Uh.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
And it's it's just sad how people get kind of
caught up in politics because when I do videos, and
I've done these videos maybe criticizing the Conservative Party, people
would be like, oh, you love Trudeau and Liberals back
when Trudeau was in power, and I'm like, I literally
created a song called fuck Trudeau that went viral, and
I'm like, I've I don't like the Liberals, right. So
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it's interesting how politics has captured people such in a
way that they can't discern between like fact and fiction.
They just are like, this is my side. You see
with Antifa and stuff like that, is that this is
my side. I will literally kill someone for this side
that they've been kind of conditioned to be a part of.
Speaker 7 (08:19):
Right.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
Yeah, yeah, I find that as well. People jump on
all sorts of conclusions. It even happens with the PPC.
I don't really support any political party at the moment. Yeah, yeah,
I'm looking to kind of influence all of them. But
you know, you criticize the liberals, they call you a conservative,
criticized the conservatives, they call you a liberal or a
PPC supporter. Like people just kind of jump into things
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and assume things. But politics is more important than that.
And that's kind of why I started the Dominion Society
because political involvement's more complicated than just voting for a
political party, and we're talking about a political party online.
And we see as on the left, like the left
has this whole network of charities and NGOs and think
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tanks that supports and promotes their worldview, whereas the right
doesn't have this sort of institutional framework in the same way.
There are there are a few big kind of not
for profit think tank type organizations like Strong and Free
and the Fraser Institute and the McDonald Laurier Institute, but
they're all very like economic focus, very very libertarian. Maybe
some are focused on promotion of oil and gas and
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some of these things, but none are really focused on
like real kind of cultural perspectives. So that's what we're
very focused on. We're kind of a single issue advocacy group.
Focused on immigration, specifically promoting the concept of remigration while
putting forward a more positive vision on Canadian identity. And
we want to bring people kind of into the political
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process and teach them these political skills, be it kind
of communications, social media, door knocking, leafletting, like all these
crucial kind of political skills. But we want to use
it to promote our kind of worldview instead of ideas
in order to create a cultural change. And we believe
that downstream from culture is politics. So we believe that
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through kind of transforming the political conversation above the political level,
we can we can influence the direction of all mainstream
political parties.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
And that's the kind of what we need to to
gear towards. Uh was is that question?
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Guys?
Speaker 5 (10:20):
Like that was the university kind of like leftists? Did
you find that there was more leftist policies and ideologies?
Because you know, I work in I'm in the trades
and stuff, and I work with some young kids and
the stuff that I hear that they're talking about and
like being pushed in high school is is pretty absurd.
I told the kid at work today that is they're
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having to do a whole English lesson thing like a
whole thing about like native history, and I'm like, are
they teaching a Canadian history? Is like no, And I'm
like I told him, I was like, I'll debate your
teacher if you want. I was like, tell that your teacher,
I will debate them because I actually, you know, it's
off topic a little bit, but I actually believe that,
and I've been doing research for a show to do
this is that Europeans were here before Natives were. There's
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European carving tools along with many other evidences that they crossed.
They were like essentially prehistoric. Europeans were on this side
of the world before like the Siberian tribes. But like
off topic, but you know, what do you what was
the university?
Speaker 6 (11:17):
Like yeah, I mean I think there's a lot of
passive leftism and university. It's generally the culturals like geist
I say, I'd say, and I mean even in the
public education system, you know that you have these like
it's very normal to have these kind of postmodernist concepts
of Canadian history that are taught.
Speaker 7 (11:35):
Even the focus like.
Speaker 6 (11:36):
When I was going through high school, we didn't we
didn't learn any Canadian history. It was all focused on
your world, World War two and stuff like this. You know,
it's just crazy you candimplate a role in. But there's
so much more interesting Canadian history to how this country
was founded, uh and settled that I think could be
taught in in high school and and throughout the education system,
which is not I wouldn't say my most of my
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were hyperpartisan, as has been some people's experiences, but they're
they're definitely The overall currents are definitely very liberal, and
I think that's kind of the global political conversation. It's
generally imbalanced. I don't think we've had a strong kind
of nationalist or illiberal kind of perspective on politics across
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the Western world really since since World War Two. And
I think there's a new kind of divide that's been
brewing across the world, and it's and it's really comes
down to this kind of nationalist, globalist divide, which I
don't think maps onto the typical kind of left right
spectrum that people are used to.
Speaker 7 (12:40):
Very well anymore.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
Well, they're kind of the Marxist ideologies have ramped up especially.
I think they've always inserted themselves for a long time,
like the whole like the term multiculturalism was coined by
Pierre Elliott Trudeau. He coined essentially coined that term, and
I've researched it's interesting. He was the one of the
first people to really speak about this idea of multiculturalism,
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and he's the one that signed us on to the
replacement migration essentially, but the Immigration Act, which essentially, as
far as I've researched, before the nineteen seventies, you had
to be pretty much European to come into Canada.
Speaker 6 (13:19):
Yeah, I mean it started before Pierre Trudeau had started
with John Diefenbaker and Lester Pearson. Our immigration system has
been slowly liberalizing since about nineteen sixty three. But Pierre
Trudeau is definitely the one that normalized multiculturalism. I don't
think he was the one that coined the term. It
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was popularized by academics like William kim Lka and pushed
forward by organized kind of Ukrainian and Jewish groups. But
it was definitely entrenched into law by Pierretruda, who introduced
the Multiculturalism Act that was ultimately made law by Brian mulroney,
a so called conservative private minister.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
Well I found with conservatives with Diefenbaker, Like my wife's
father is a staunch conservative, right, and he loves deefen
Baker because I feel like they were kind of conditioned
to believe that he was a champion of that side
when not necessarily he actually was.
Speaker 6 (14:14):
Yeah, he did a lot to liberalize our society, is
the reality. He started liberalizing our immigration system. He put
forward the Canadian Bill of Rights, which was the precursor
to the Charter, which again was a very kind of
liberal American concept. But Deevin Baker is an interesting character.
That being said, like he was an amazing orator. He
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did speak passionately on kind of Canadian nationalism. Hef he
defended the red ensign. There was good things about John Diefenbaker,
don't get me wrong, but he really was the death
of Canadian nationalism, which he represented what could have been
a massive pivot over the preceding kind of twenty years.
We were seeing increasing entanglement with the United States. Our
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culture and our economy were becoming more and more integrated
with the Americans, and he was he represented an opportunity
to to chart a different path, and ultimately he failed
to do so. Despite having a massive government Uh government mandate.
Speaker 7 (15:11):
Yes, he had.
Speaker 6 (15:12):
He had the biggest mandate of all time. I think
that I think Brian Maroaney beat him out for seats,
but but he still had the He has the biggest
percent of the popular vote ever won by by any
Canadian politician. So he had the huge public support, but
he wasn't able to work through the kind of institutional
uh disadvantages and and you know the c I A
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uh and stuff looking to to to push him out
in favor of a more pro American Lester B. Pearson.
Speaker 7 (15:39):
Ultimately, after the Beam missile crisis.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
I always have a bunch of books on the go,
and I started reading Lament for a Nation and the
guy he was very much talking about Deefen Baker and
kind of his ideologies and and it's interesting because this
like I was always you know, a lot of Canadians,
you know, growing up in like I grew up in
the nineties and my family was like from Toronto and
then we moved to Saint Cathars, into a smaller town
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and stuff like that, which probably helped me kind of
come to these realizations to some extent, but you know,
it was always kind of pushed on us.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
So this is the way Canada was.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
They didn't teach us about our history, and it really
wasn't until I started to notice this huge shift in
our immigration, especially in the last couple of years, that
really pushed me in them getting essentially like having connections
with like Jeremy Mackenzie and started talking with him, and
he's the one that really kind of woke me up
to this idea of nationalism and who we are. And
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then then I started my own research, right and I
traced what my mom's grandma back to sixteen oh four
in Canada, and before that, I traced it back to
what now was the United States, and then it stopped.
So I have no idea how long my bloodline goes
back to in this nation and stuff like that, or
in this like hemisphere. And that's what made me be like,
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you know and really push to to you know, this
are people these this is our country. My ancestors didn't
endure everything they did to just give it away to foreigners.
And that's like the biggest problem, right is they and
I believe it's all part of a bigger agenda, but
it's like to essentially, it seems like to erase us
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in the process of like uplifting everybody else. So what
really made you like kind of turn that switch on
to like, we need to preserve our people, our way
of life, our heritage, something that they never teach anybody about,
whether it even be in school or your parents the
social media. A lot of people have been conditioned to
be like, well, this is the way it is. It's
always been multiculturalists, which isn't true.
Speaker 7 (17:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
I mean, as I mentioned, I kind of came into
the immigration question from a from an economic perspective. It
was all these kind of policies that were adversely affecting
our society. But at the same time, like I started
to notice how how our country was transforming, and you know,
our cities are starting to look different, and as I
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think social cohesion as I was going through univer I
grew up in Toronto as well, So.
Speaker 7 (18:07):
Pardon, are you in Ontario?
Speaker 6 (18:09):
Yeah, I live in Ottawa right now, but I grew
up in Ontario and I grew up in Toronto rather
downtown Toronto like I was, I went to a high
school that was a minority white forty white's.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
To my cousin lives out there and he's in Weston
and he's like I was like one of the only
white guys.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
He was like there was a handful of us and
that was it.
Speaker 7 (18:27):
Man.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
Yeah, yeah, that was kind of my educational experience. Like
at the same time as Canada's demographics were changing, I
just kind of found myself on a on a course
that went kind of deeper and deeper into things like
I went to a I lived in an area that
was very still still very white.
Speaker 7 (18:46):
Uh maybe a.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
Bit Jewish, but mostly white. And then when I went
to high school after I went more deeper downtown on
on the dan Forth, and my school experience, it's again
the demographics shifted. And then I went to university in
Waterloo where there's a massive international student population, a lot
of Chinese people, a lot of Indian people.
Speaker 7 (19:11):
Yeah yeah, exactly so.
Speaker 6 (19:14):
And then this is even more jarring, right, Like it's
it's not even like people that we were born here.
It's like literally kind of fresh off the boat international
students and the you know, these cultural divides has just
become more and more stark. You have like the Asian
kids in the Chinese kids in their h you know,
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there their brand new Bentley's and BMW's who can hardly
follow the rules of the road, Like there's there's intense
kind of divides that are being drawn. And then at
the same time, like I just started noticing how people
kind of arrange themselves naturally in both high school and university,
Like it's just people of the same ethnic backgrounds forming
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friend groups. And like, sure, you can call this like
racist or something, but it's just how people naturally organize.
Speaker 7 (20:02):
I think it's.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
Pardon it's instinctual. Yeah, exactly, you look like me. We
should hang you know what I mean. That's where it
comes from.
Speaker 7 (20:12):
But it's not even just you look like me.
Speaker 6 (20:13):
It's like we have similar kind of life stories, we
have similar attitudes about things because there are similar cultural experiences,
and even amongst kids that were born here and so on,
they come from different backgrounds.
Speaker 7 (20:26):
Like I went to in high school.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
You know, we we'd have a class that was, you know,
twenty foreigners, ten people from the India or the Southeast
or south East South Asian in general, and they just
everyone formed kind of along ethnic lines, whether they realize
it or not. And then we'd have polate discussions in English,
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but then they'd go off into their other friend groups
and start speaking foreign languages. The reality is this causes
tension in society does And I started to recognize more
of Canadian history and in Canadian identity and how these
things like are are inextricably linked. And I started to
realize how only Western countries have this kind of idea
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where where they're uh, their their national identity is viewed
as a civic identity. And why will like anyone from
anywhere can be Canadian, but like I would never be
able to become Indian, I would never be able to
become Japanese, but like paper like I started to realize
that these these ideas don't really make sense, and that
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that our identity and our our our culture need to
be defended or else they're just going to fall away.
And it's only become more and more apparent over the
last few years. We can see areas of the country
like Surrey and Brampton, they're they're they're changing completely.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
They you spend time there and it's it's more like
you're in a foreign country, people speaking foreign languages.
Speaker 7 (21:57):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (21:58):
Signs for for restaurants and businesses and foreign languages. Uh,
you know, statues and monuments going up.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
To that sure passes me off. I hope that my
children tear down those statues. I'm not gonna lie. I
think they should be taken down. And and that's the
problem is they create ethnic enclaves of their own people
and then prioritize their own people, and then if white
people do it, they're racist. And I one of my
coast is in Ireland. It's happening worldwide, only to white countries.
And I believe that, like you know, we've covered the
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Clergy Plan, We're gonna do it again. There is certain
aspects of this thing that's been written about for like
a hundred years. They've I think that this has all
been in the works, the UN Agenda, the UN migration.
They it's literally a document that they have that the
Replacement pgration. And it's funny because, yeah, I grew up
with Native friends, Black friends, Uh, Indians, I didn't have
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any contact with really my parents in Toronto they had
good friends. I didn't even see because there were some
people that assimilated right and uh, they they were close
with our family. I never knew them really because it's
after you know, I started growing up or whatever. But
like I never looked at it until I started to realize, oh,
there is such a push for like kind of an
anti white agenda in my opinion, and against us as people,
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and we're not allowed to collect advise and if it's
interesting because if white people say, okay, well I only
want to live around white people, that's racist. But then
you literally if you especially in the America, they create
like black only schools, black only communities, black only this, that,
and and in my opinion too, like I know that
the chiefs steal a lot of the money, but like
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I don't call them reserves. I call them ethno states.
The Natives have their own ethno states within Canada. That's
what they are, that their own people represented by their
own people.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
And I'd like to get your take on this.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
One thing I've always kind of wanted to ask you
is like one thing that I really got not more
like pissed about and like trying to push back on this,
is this idea if I especially foreigners would say this
and some like brainwash liberals amongst other people, maybe even natives,
that they would be like, well, you're not the true
Canadians because natives are whatever. And then so I started
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really pushing back on this and doing research and looking
into this I'm like, well, Canada wasn't created by the indigenous,
the Siberian tribes.
Speaker 7 (24:06):
They weren't.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
It was created by white Europeans. Even that I saw
you do that inn that that video about the the railways,
because I did a video prior to you doing it,
and I did it because I kept seeing all these
people being like, well the Chinese built Every time I
said like can it was built by white Europeans, they like,
the Chinese built the and I was like, no, they didn't.
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They built a tidy fraction of it in like BC
in the mountains. And it's so funny that you see
these similar talking points, and I always want to know
your opinion of like this idea of all these people
being well, they know natives are the true Canadians and
stuff like that, and they had usually identify with the
tribe they're associated with, right.
Speaker 6 (24:44):
So yeah, I know, I think you put it well.
I had a kind of viral tweet on this concept
to where I said, if anything, you know white Canadians
or the or the real Canadians and the First Nations
people aren't Canadian. Now generally I would include everyone in
this disription. I believe these three leaves on the on
this flag represent the three founding peoples of Canada, the French,
the the English and the and the First Nations people.
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I think First Nations played a played an important role
in European settlement of Canada. But that being said, as
you put it, most of them will will identify with
their their own tribe or clan ahead of being Canadian.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (25:20):
The the reality is they have a.
Speaker 6 (25:22):
Distinct ethnicity then then uh Canadians, and that this country
didn't exist before Europeans came here and built it. Yes,
we've taken names from from indigenous words.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
Even the name Canada comes from them. But they but
it's not like we came and stole a country from them.
There was no country when they came here. There was
warring tribes UH fighting over land who were eager to
partner with with the Europeans UH in order to get
a leg up on their on their on their rivals
of other of other nations.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
Tribes that wouldn't exist if the French didn't help them survive.
And it's interesting because even like the Iroquois, the Iroquois
came here from the United States in eighteen twelve, so
they migrate here and then, like we have right to
this land, even though it's like that you weren't even
migrating over you weren't traveling nomadically over here, right. And
I was always, like I said, I was friends with
natives and stuff like that. And I saw a lot
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of problems on the reserve. I live close to one
of the six nation reserves, and I see the problems
of what's going on. But the thing is like, you
can't play a victimhood forever. And and you know, there
was a cohesion so to speak of like Canadians and
well the Europeans whatever, but Canadians that became Canadian and
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the native tribes way more than there wasn't in the
United States.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
Yeah, yeah, And I like, I'm frustrated by the whole
conversation around relationships with the natives, whether it be around
residential schools or the more current conversations about land rights
and land acknowledgments and all these things, like especially criticisms
of of residential schools, like it comes from this place
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where of this like moral support superiority, as if we
are current relationships with with the first nations people.
Speaker 7 (27:13):
Are are good, which they aren't.
Speaker 6 (27:15):
Most reserves have have third world conditions on them where
they don't have fresh water, where where rates of abuse
and education levels like our are are, like all the
worst statistics you can imagine are are going on in
these reserves, and yet we we kind of stick our
nose up at the past as if their solutions are
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any are any worse than than what we're doing now.
So I think there needs to be some more nuanced
to that conversation. I don't have all the solutions. My
priority is uh is immigration reform, but I am frustrated
watching these these conversations and this kind of position of
moral authority superiority that that goes around when when really
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they're there needs to be much more done to create
a functional relationship between the Canadian people and First Nations peoples.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
Some's gotta be done, because I think they've been conditioned also.
And near near Brandford and stuff, where the one of
the six Nations like they it looks terrible man and
their chiefs steal it, like what's that guy's now. I'll
remember one of the chiefs that I knew people that
knew him and has went to his parties. He's dead now,
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Kenny Hill, and he stole tons of the money and
this like with building mansions and stuff. It's like the
same way the politicians do. Right, You're they're stealing the
money because they've been given billions of dollars. Like even
I specifically know people that have been uh that I
knew a guy his wife married an Indigenous man. They
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end up breaking up to whatever, and they had kids
and the kids got like thirty grand each just for
being native. So like it's the same I put it
the same way of this idea of like on land
or uh, this idea that you know land back, well,
then China should give the land back to the Mongolians
like it's or Europe should give it back to Romans.
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It's this endless like victimhood statement, and it's if we don't,
if we don't band together, like I had Adrian the
Realist on he's a Native guy, and we discussed Canadian
nationalism and he believes that we need to unify the
white Canadians and the First Nations together or like we're
gonna both lose our homes.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
And the thing is too with this whole like land
grab theft.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
The un is using this to their advantage because if
the Natives don't upkeep the land that they're gonna suppose
we take in BC the UN gets it.
Speaker 6 (29:40):
Yeah, I think I think we really need to unite
along our kind of heritage. I think we need to
come together, the French, the English, and the and the
indigenous peoples and and and fight for our country because
right now it's being given away to invaders from from
all over the world, and it's being transformed into something.
Speaker 7 (29:57):
Else, and they're using them againe.
Speaker 6 (29:59):
I think we use yeah, yeah, yeah, So I think
we need to put our differences aside. I long for
a reality where we can go back to squabbling between
the English and the French. Right now, we have bigger
problems and we need to put our differences aside and
and unite and work together to to to take back
our homelands before we lose them forever. And I hope
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that through this we can we can, through this grand collaboration,
we can form a more perfect partnership, because I think
for for decades now, for for almost a century, we've
been going on the wrong path, and we need to
we need to find a way that we can more
effectively work together in order to to create a state
that really represents the interests of the Canadian people.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
And that's not what they've been doing, right, It's like
there's been siphoning off money and stuff like that. And
you know that's why I like i'm part of like
I'm like I can be kind of vindictive. That's why
I like kind of dug my feet into like doing
research about like who was here first? Because this whole
idea that like it's like native land, it doesn't make
it's not doesn't make sense. It's it's just a tool
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that they use, and the concept didn't even get brought
up until the last like twenty to forty years or
something like that. Right, It's just like this thing that
they've really pushed, and it comes from communist ideologies a
lot of it. And if we don't unify and work together,
like I would rather see the reserves, you know, get better,
because essentially their stand of living has stayed the same,
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but the money keeps pouring in and now we find
out that it's being siphoned off.
Speaker 7 (31:26):
Right, So.
Speaker 6 (31:28):
They've created this sort of dependency trap where we spend
something like six billion dollars twelve billion dollars, I don't
remember the exact figure going towards reconciliation efforts into support
First Nations communities, and nothing gets better.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
It was thirty point five billion dollars in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 7 (31:45):
That's crazy.
Speaker 6 (31:46):
Yeah, And the wealth is getting squandered at the top,
like you're saying, and all the while, these people use
these land claims to prevent things like resource development. You know,
Canada has incredible wealth within the ground, especially around the
Ring of Fire and stuff like this, but we can't
develop it because there's these contentious kind of land claim
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So we need to figure out a way that we
can move projects forward and extract wealth and creating an
economy that works for everyone and supports both you know,
the indigenous as well as as as white Canadians, because
we have everything in this country to be to be
the most rich, wealthy people in the world. We should
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have the greatest standard of living of anyone on this planet.
But we let these kind of weird political issues get
in the way. So we need we need people to
get in charge and to force things through and to
do the right thing for for our people. I'm not
saying that they need to wipe them off the map
or anything, but we can find mutually beneficial kind of
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pathways and pop projects to bring wealth to all the
people of Canada.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
And that's unfortunate because a lot of them might think
like the chiefs and stuff like that. I do think
that they are they might be representing a different agenda
and not actually representing their people the same as the
politicians do. So we have this on both sides, where
you know, the people on the ground so to speak,
that are like living on these reserves want better, and
then they want more and more, but they don't realize
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that their own people are the ones stabbing them in
the back, stealing from them and taking from what prosperity
they could have. And then they go and blame the
white man for things that are either over exaggerated or
have been used for an agenda. Like we haven't released yet,
but I had what's his name, Jim mct the guy
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that's pushing against the residential schools. I had him, yeah, McMurtry, yea,
I've had him on the show recently. It's not out yet,
but you know, and and I pushed back against some
of the stuff he was even saying, you know, about
the multiculturalist society to some extent, and uh, you know
that there is some things that they don't want to acknowledge,
and they want to paint it in only one perspective
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and not look at the other side.
Speaker 7 (33:59):
Right.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
So, and that's why I get frustrated with these ideas
of like, you know, my family's been here for four
hundred and twenty one years or whatever, and it's like
my family's been I'm as Canadian as anybody because of
how long I've roots and heritage built into this nation.
It's just sad that, like, you know, people don't see
it that way. But like, what are your thoughts about
like all the foreign interest and the fact that like
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what is even the solution when our own intelligence agencies
and our CMP have claimed that there hasn't been a
legitimate election since maybe Melrudy, and how it's been compromised
the entire time by foreign interests?
Speaker 7 (34:37):
Like how do we rectify that?
Speaker 6 (34:40):
Yeah, I mean, I think these are the inevitable kind
of consequences of multiculturalism and mass immigration. We have significant populations,
especially from countries like China and India, in these governments
and other organizations are playing a significant role in our politics.
Speaker 7 (34:57):
It was just like a month.
Speaker 6 (34:58):
Ago that like the BISHNOI gang out of India was
labeled as a terrorist organization in Canada, the state is
getting involved in like extra judicial murders like what happened
with the Nidjar last summer. And then at the same
time we see the Chinese getting organized and influencing things
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in Canada through their kind of communist police stations and
even doing things like getting involved in Liberal party nomination
contests to select MPs.
Speaker 7 (35:35):
That are are loyal to the the CCP, like.
Speaker 6 (35:38):
Han Dong who served as the Liberal MP for Don
Valley West until the last election. After the controversy was
forced to sit as an independent. But like this is
just the the the obvious results of of bringing over
people in large numbers. There are states around the world
that are going to weaponize the people in our country
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that are still loyal to their homelands. And this is
why we need to have like a cohesive nation. We
need to have very limited immigration. We need to send
lots of people back that should never have come here
in the first place, in order to protect the integrity
of our politics. Like too much of politics has become
about dressing up and you know, trying to say a
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few words in in certain languages and going to different
temples of faith, in celebrating different foreign religions and stuff
like this. Instead of actually talking about ideas and leading
in ways that will make the country better for our people,
it's become about pandering in in surface level things because
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they realize that they can win riotings by kind of
weaponizing different groups against each other. And and like, this
is this is not what our politics is supposed to
be about. It's supposed to be you know, ambitious, it's
supposed to be about building up a great nation. And
instead it's just about playing divide and conquer and winning
over different groups. And yeah, it's it's disgusting, to be honest,
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it's and that's the whole tactic though.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
Right, you can flood in a bunch of different.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
People with different ethnicities, different background languages. Uh, you know,
these ideas their own ideologies, you constantly or pit people
against each other while they're essentially just siphoning off wealth
from the actual people who work hard. And then the
sad fact is, right, a lot of the world has
been conditioned to essentially brainwashed to believe that white people
(37:31):
are bad white man, bad kind of thing. Right, the
idea of colonialism. I'm controversial. So I think colonialism was
a good thing because without it, we would not live
in the modern world. You know, all these people typing
on cell phones that say this. I was like, you
wouldn't have a cell phone if it wasn't for the
Alexander Graham Bell and some of these people that created
these tech these innovations and technologies in in like colonized countries, right,
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and every country that decolonizes goes into chaos and warfare
and death and and so so it is interesting you
see this happening all the time, especially within Canada, and
at least in the eighties and nineties, like when I
grew up in the night like people still assimilated, they
were adapting. I still don't think there should be anything
like Chinatown. I think that's ridiculous. You know, all these
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kind of things of like we need to embrace everybody
else's culture in spart of in spite of our own,
and then we have people that tell us we have
no culture. And I've I haven't released yet, but I
did a whole video of covering Canadian culture and stuff
like that because that was my biggest you know, these
things that like, I'm like, foreigners are coming into my
country and tying to tell me who I am and
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what my ancestors did, and how we're evil colonizers and
this and that.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
And I do believe a lot of the people, if
they realize.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
It or not, are being brainwashed to hate us, and
then they get flooded into our country. And it's unfortunate
too that the Conservatives will pander more than sometimes the
Liberals do, wearing turbans and the things that Pierre is doing.
I think Pierre is one of the worst leaders to
ever grace the Conservative Party. I think he is one
of the worst. I think he is a parasite. I
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don't know why there's more Israeli flags the Conservative headquarters.
I think that they're bought and owned and it's and
it's crazy because you have people that will just defend
him to the death because they need some hope. But
I'm like, you're not going to find a hope a
resolution with him.
Speaker 6 (39:21):
Yeah, I agree. I think the Conservatives need to bring
forward a more alternative viewpoint to in terms of a
worldview and vision for this country. Really, conservatives, and this
is true of most countries Western countries around the world,
they don't they don't represent a different path. They represent
like a slight slowed down version of liberalism.
Speaker 7 (39:45):
It's just the blue.
Speaker 6 (39:45):
Liberal liberals or the red liberals really at the end
of the day, because where they can people like yeah, exactly,
I mean, and in this day and age, there's very
little left to conserve. I think we need we need
a sort of more reform or revolutionary kind of perspective
on things to to restore what we've lost. I agree,
So we need to have we need nationalists to step
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up and and and and put our foot down and
really define what it means to be Canadian and how
we how we can work to to preserve that and
really the only way to do that is through remigration
at this point. So I agree. I think, uh, Pierre
is a pretty weak leader. I think he's you know,
he's been a pretty effective communicator. Uh, he's pretty he's
(40:26):
pretty savvy with social media and he's used that to
kind of jump to the to the forefront of the
Conservative Party. But but what does he really stand for.
I'm I'm not quite sure. He thinks things should be
a bit more affordable, but I'm I'm not quite sure
how he how he wants to achieve that.
Speaker 5 (40:47):
Do you think it's all political theater because I see
the House of Comments that I think that whole thing
is fake as hell. I think that they're just doing
it to like appease people, to make them sell this
idea that democracy is something that is real. But my
point of democracy is, like democracy is the illusion of choice.
And if it gets to the point where yes, we
are the minority, and there is ethnic enclaves of other people,
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especially from India and stuff like that, and if they
are controlling our political spectrum as we see more and
more of them are getting into the House of Commons,
there will be no point of even I don't think
voting really like matters at the end of the day
unless we do change something. But like if if both
sides are representing the same self destructive agenda, then it
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doesn't matter what little check mark you put on a
piece of paper. At some point, like it's either we
fight and die for this country or we hand it
over to foreigners and let our children be a persecuted minority.
Speaker 6 (41:45):
Yeah, yeah, I do agree that the House of Commons
is largely just theater. It's a show nowadays, and like
a lot of people don't realize this but like all
the questions are submitted, in veted, in advanced, all the
response are pre orchestrated. I think there could be ways
to to Like I mean, if you just got rid
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of these practices and actually had serious people who were
able to discuss ideas and policies and so on and
and debate them rigorously in the House, that might be
more interesting to watch and it might force politicians to
be a little bit more serious. But at the end
of the day, this is not what they select for.
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They have people that can take pre vetted questions from
the leadership of the party and read them out and
read their responses of little pieces of paper, Like what's
the point of this? They just use it to get
clips and stuff for social media that they think will
pop off, and.
Speaker 7 (42:43):
They don't because they're pouring.
Speaker 6 (42:46):
Like it's there's there's very little utility I think to
to the to the House of Commons nowadays. And yeah,
I think it comes back to like I agree, I
didn't vote in the last selection. I spoiled my ballot
because I don't see parties offering a very different alternative
(43:06):
or worldview. I think they're all different, kind of varying
degrees of liberalism. Maybe they have slightly different ideas on
tax plans and so on, but none of them are
really offering a different worldview in terms of accounter to
the kind of neoliberal internationalist identity. And I think that's
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really what's failed Canada for a long time now. It
isn't just like the last ten twenty years like this
goes back right to the kind of post war consensus
around this kind of liberal, egalitarian kind of worldview that
I think has done Canada really wrong. I think it's
resulted us in becoming a kind of vassal state of
the US. It's resulted us in adopting this kind of
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liberal attitude on the economy and on morality that I
think is outside of Canadian identity. Like this, this nation
was really founded as a rejection of American ideas and
American liberalism, and in the post war period we've becoming
completely ensconced in it. So people say they don't understand
Canadian culture, they don't understand why we're not America, and
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so on, and and at this point, you know, I
I I think that is a valid point. We've been
totally conumed by American I don't know about that I
might I might put a communitarian. I do value can
as kind of collectivist inklings, but I think they've been
kind of weaponized against a lot of people of my
(44:38):
worldview for a long time. But I think that's we
don't I don't think we win by by labeling people
communists and and saying that we need to be more
liberal or more American. I think we win by by
steering into the into the swerve and understanding that Canadians
are by nature collectivists, are communitarian, and we do value
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things like peace, order and good governance.
Speaker 7 (45:03):
We do.
Speaker 6 (45:05):
Understand that there needs to be a role for government.
We need leaders that are willing to not cut down
the size of the state, but we willing to wield
the state in order of the interest of our own people.
This ties into a conversation that's been going on to
social media that I find rather frustrating. And it's this
whole in reaction to the floor crossing of Chris Don
(45:26):
Tremont in the last few days, from the conservatives to
the liberals, there's been this whole discussion about.
Speaker 4 (45:31):
Whether interchanged them.
Speaker 6 (45:34):
Yeah yeah, And he's been labeled as a red Tory
and and this really frustrates me personal This is a
real pet peeve of mine, and it's kind of nerdy,
it's kind of insider baseball. But red Toryism is constantly
kind of used as a as a moniker in the
modern context to describe someone who's like fiscally conservative but
socially liberal, and that's really the reverse of what it is.
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Like I think a more accurate way of putting that
would be these people are blue liberals. They're they're they're
socially liberal, but they're fiscally conservative. Red Toryism is really
a unique Canadian ideology that is that is what formed
this country. It's it's the ideology of Robert Borden and
Sir John A.
Speaker 7 (46:16):
MacDonald.
Speaker 6 (46:17):
It's the belief that we need a state to preserve peace,
order and good governance. It's a socially conservative position that
believes in a large state. It's it's it's if anything
that's economically progressive well socially conservative. And I think that's
the kind of identity that nationalists need to need to
adopt and restore if we're going to get Canada back
on the right track.
Speaker 5 (46:37):
I agree, and like what I mean, and what the
communist thing is that I do see us going that
direction essentially, because I've studied communism for a while now,
and I do feel like if we don't get our
stuff together will be the Bolshevik revolution will be like maw,
it will get that bad where you will have these
essentially like a revolutionary war and hitting people against each other,
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and then essentially they'll mass slatter people. Like this is
stuff that has happened time and time again throughout history.
And if people don't wake up to the fact that
they're using all of these ethnic differences between us when
they bring people into our country like they're in America,
there could be a civil war soon. And that's my concern.
Like I just had a baby. My baby's like five
months old, and I don't want her to have to
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live through.
Speaker 4 (47:25):
Some sort of Bolshevik revolution hellhole.
Speaker 5 (47:28):
And that's what is concerning to me, because like, essentially,
they're bringing in tons and tons of people who hate us,
who have been weaponized against us, who only want to
benefit their own people think that we're the villains, so
they need to uh they're entitlement and the.
Speaker 4 (47:43):
People call the give me grits or whatever.
Speaker 5 (47:45):
All these people are coming in, but give me all
of this stuff because I was persecuted by the white
man in my country or whatever it may be. And
that's like if Canadians don't realize how far it could go.
A lot of people, I feel like, are still in
this fantasy world that it can't get that back because
this is Canada and we didn't have we've never faced
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something like that, but we have in the past. There
has been a lot of conflicts and stuff like that,
and you know, and it is a concerning thing that
the government will enact all of these policies essentially to
strip away our rights. So what do you think about
like the direction we're headed if if we don't change anything, Yeah,
there could be people going to jail on mascalic in
(48:28):
the UK for just talking about like, hey, I don't
want my daughter assaulted by some sort of foreign immigrant, right.
Speaker 6 (48:37):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I think speech laws in the
UK are still a lot worse than here in Canada.
They are looking to introduce some new regulations that can
see people blocked from from using the Internet and stuff
like this, which is somewhat disturbing. So I concern for
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the direction that things are going in. But I don't
like to I don't like the black bell. I don't
like to to get super paranoid about these things. Like
the reality is, we're we're We're never going to win
unless we speak passionately, passionately about our ideas with with
conviction and clarity. I don't think anything that I say
(49:22):
is hateful. I don't think it's hate speech. Everything that
motivates me comes from a very from a position of
love for my own people, and that's my first identity.
Speaker 4 (49:32):
It's about love.
Speaker 6 (49:35):
Yeah, I just want to be able to pass on
the country I was born into on my onto my
children and greats children, and I see that slipping away
very quickly. But I don't think it's beyond salvaging. This
country was transformed very quickly in the span of a
decade or two, and I think it can be saved
just as quickly as if, if not faster. We just
need to have the the and and like everything can
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be done within within the legislative framework that that currently exists.
Speaker 5 (50:03):
Just that curiosity, right, because I know you're doing things
in the more political realm.
Speaker 7 (50:08):
Right.
Speaker 5 (50:09):
What do you think about someone like Jeremy Mackenzie and
the Second Sons.
Speaker 4 (50:13):
Do you think that it's necessary. Uh, I do.
Speaker 5 (50:17):
But I'm just saying, like, do you think that that's
the direction that we should go, is trying to make
a movement of of collectivizing Canadian men together to to
learn skills that are necessary to fight if necessary, or
this idea of you know, to do these uh little
like these uh the these things to impose our ideas
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in a very open, broad manner that makes people watch
the video or or see what's going on in public, uh,
you know, to kind of maybe make them think that, yeah,
there is a lot of people out there that are
starting to.
Speaker 7 (50:53):
To want to see a shift and change.
Speaker 6 (50:56):
I think it's important for Canadian nationalists to get to
get work gonize. I think it's important to build communities
and to build relationships. One of the fundamental problems of
why we see our country slipping away is Canadians have
become so adamized, especially through the decline of faith. There
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aren't these community groups really that exist, whereas foreigners maintain
these these community groups around there. There it might be
ethnic groups, it might be community groups, and it's often
faith groups. So as a result, Canadian politicians are kind
of forced there's this whole incentive structure where they can
pander to different groups that are localized in certain ridings.
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That's how our election system works, right, So if you
can just go to this temple and you can win
over hundreds or thousands of votes, like, there's a huge
incentive to go on and put on the head dress
and take off your shoes and do whatever you can
to win over their votes. Whereas don't have these same
kind of community structures, so there isn't that same kind
of incentive to pay them, and I think.
Speaker 4 (52:01):
You've lost our Christianity and stuff.
Speaker 6 (52:04):
I think if heritage Canadians can rebuild these ties, whether
it be through a group like mine or or other
groups that are founding, I think this is a positive
development and will put pressure on politicians to do to
be better. I obviously I don't agree with every with
their their approach entirely, or else I'd just be a
part of their organization instead of starting my own. But
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I think encouraging people to engage in community building and
physical fitness, I think these are are great things that
that are much more productive than you know, scrolling and blackmailing.
Speaker 7 (52:39):
And so on.
Speaker 6 (52:40):
Yeah, exactly jerking off and watching porn Like I think
there's so many more destructive forces in our lives.
Speaker 7 (52:45):
So I do admire any Canadian.
Speaker 6 (52:47):
Nationalists, regardless of the group that they're that they're getting
involved in becoming more politically active. But I do think
there is a lot of value to our approach. I
I I want to put forward Canadian nationalism in a
way that's that's palatable to a large community.
Speaker 5 (53:09):
Because people see that and they think extreme right, so
they don't want to like necessarily go that direction.
Speaker 4 (53:15):
And I do.
Speaker 6 (53:16):
I do a lot of people, and I want to
put forward a kind of professional face that people are
comfortable with, ye, and put forward a message.
Speaker 5 (53:25):
You see, I think some like conservative old lady would
maybe see uh, some of the you know, activism so
to speak, that maybe the second son's does and be like,
you know, and think these things because everyone's been kind
of conditioned. I've seen this with like people my own
family and stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (53:42):
Right, They they oh, you need.
Speaker 7 (53:44):
To accept everybody type of thing.
Speaker 5 (53:45):
Right, But if you're going to accept everybody in spite
of your own people, and we've lost this like religious connection,
it's I'm not religious, right, but I I lean towards Christianity.
I have a lot of Christian friends, but that that's
what was our way of community, you know. And and
I'm starting I've readly like we dive into all sorts
of crazy stuff on the show. Right, I'm gonna have
(54:07):
some guy on to talk about the the Nephilon being
connected to clowns and stuff. So like, there's gonna be
some weird stuff on the show. But I just love
like different strange topics and and and inquiring and just
thinking outside of the box. And there's a lot of
points of like that that Christianity, Catholicism, whatever the process
the foundations of this nation that were built by you know,
white Christians and prostants and catholic It there was that
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sense of community. You know, even my my dad's not religious,
but he started going to church because you think that's
good for my stepbrother's like kid to kind of like
grow up in and stuff like that. And and he
was like, you would like it. It's a lot of white people.
And I was like, he's like, that's how they collectivize, right,
And I think that we've lost that.
Speaker 4 (54:51):
So I do think that groups like yours.
Speaker 5 (54:54):
And then in creating what you are is like I
I I applaud you for it. I think it's like
a good thing, and this is how we can bring
together people that are Canadian that maybe don't want to
go to church and are not religious, but still want
to conserve their identity and preserve their way of life.
You know, I do think that it is necessary, especially
(55:15):
at this point, and because I was with a lot
of young kids. A lot of them are starting to
notice what the hell is going on and they are
not happy about it.
Speaker 7 (55:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (55:23):
Yeah, yeah, So I think that's important. Like, I don't
think we need one monolithic organization. I think we need
to really develop the national space in a lot of
different ways. And I think I like I like groups
like mine, groups like many other active clubs and stuff
like this. I think they're all positive developments in the
broader nationalist movement. And I think we still need more.
(55:45):
I think we need I think we could really use
a large media organization. I think that would be a
really positive development. I don't like even some of these
other larger media things like Rebel and Juno and stuff.
I don't think choose. I don't think they're real nationalists. Yeah,
I think a lot of them are kind of fundamentally
(56:06):
liberal or they're just so focused on outrage based right,
and yeah, exactly, And I mean most of them haven't
been willing to offer me any sort of platform, even
despite like I think I have a you know, maybe
it's a bit controversial, but I don't think I have
any sort of hateful message or anything that should get
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me barred from from these platforms. So I think we
could really use a strong nationalist media organization. I think
we need to build up. We need to take inspiration
from what the foreigners are doing. We need to take
inspiration from what the left is doing, and really build
out the nationalist space into all sorts of professionalized organizations
that can push our worldview to multiple different communities. You know,
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different groups are going to appeal to different folks in
different ways and can add to the system and complement
each other.
Speaker 5 (57:00):
Yeah, And I think that's the way of the way
they gaslight, especially like white people, right, the word racist
and stuff. We're like talking about these u who coined
what and all that stuff, right, like and that not
necessarily Pierre Eli Tudo coined multiculturalism are but he did
popularize it, right, It's the same way like Leon Trotsky
popularized the word racist to beat dissidents of the communist agenda.
(57:22):
So it's like they use these terms and isms, Uh,
everything was built on an ism, feminism, communism, transgenderism, multiculturalism, nationalism, right,
so and and all these isms are either used for
or against us.
Speaker 4 (57:39):
Right, And that's what the funny thing is like, is
it's like, you.
Speaker 5 (57:42):
Know, when you I think Indians are a huge problem
in Canada, even though I work with one guy and
he's very nice and he just went back to India
for a month and he's like, he's like, you know,
but at the same time I've told him that things
I think can He brought me home a little Buddhist
at or a little buddhistatute, and I have thanked him
for it or whatever.
Speaker 7 (57:59):
But like, at the same time, I've told him, like
he was going to like.
Speaker 5 (58:02):
An arranged marriage or whatever like that in Canada, I'm
going to a party for it. And I was like,
that's not what we do here. And I was like,
do you see why, like people are pushing back. It's
because you guys are not assimilating or trying to even
kind of become us. You are just importing your culture
that you have an entire subcontinent that you can call home, right,
and Canadian identity is very distinct. It might it might
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be European centric in the way that it was the French, English,
Irish and Scottish that kind of came together and founded
and created this nation at the end of the day.
But like, if I go to Ireland to see my homeboy, like,
I'm not gonna like, even though I might have some
Irish ancestry, I'm not going to become Irish because this
is my home and this is what my ancestors built, right.
So I do think that there is a huge problem
(58:46):
with these different these ethnic enclaves. And now you have Muslims,
and now we're seeing what's happening in New York. They
like literally elected a communist Muslim. Like, it's only gonna
get worse if people kind of don't collectivize. And I
think that someone like you is needed, especially your age
now young you are. I'm a little more controversial. I
don't care. I will say what needs to be said.
(59:07):
I will call out things that are a need to
be said, you know. And I never wanted to create
a essentially like a political movement. A lot of people
I've had probably thousands upon thousands of comments that have
told me to run for prime minister, and I like
Raptilian for a primate, and I'm like, you know, you
don't want They would literally just I would be kicked out.
They would not be good even they'd watch like five
(59:28):
of my videos and not want anything to do with me.
And it's because my message whatever they try to despite.
It's like people label as like hateful, but I don't
hate anybody. I've grew up with my one of my
answers issues Jamaica, Like I grew up with tons of
different people in my life, right, And and it's just
because I'm like, oh, I like, I like the way
of life that my grandparents gave for me and stuff
(59:50):
like that, and I want to preserve it doesn't mean
I hate other people. But the thing is, if I
want to experience Japanese culture, Indian culture, whatever, am I
I'll go there to experience it. I don't need to
experience in my own backyard, you know.
Speaker 6 (01:00:03):
Yeah, No, I believe in diversity. I just don't want
every single country to be merged into the same kind
of beig multiculturalist soup, like I want Japan to remain Japanese.
Speaker 7 (01:00:17):
I want the Netherlands to remain Dutch.
Speaker 6 (01:00:19):
I want Germany to remain Germany, and I want Canada
remain Canada.
Speaker 7 (01:00:22):
And it's easy.
Speaker 6 (01:00:23):
Like there's a lot of things being slowed around the
rise of anti Indian hate, but like the reality is
they've brought over a lot of Indians. Just look at
the stats. They're by far the leading country when it
comes to immigration. And this is causing issues, right They
they they all go into the same kind of enclaves.
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They congregate in a few cities and they transform them
into different places. Not to mention they they take over
all sorts of different industries, be a chain, restaurants or
the trust us, and it causes all sorts of different problems.
Like there was just a story the other day about
two Indians who are Indian immigrants who had been here
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for a long time, but they clearly had not assimilated
into Canadian culture. Because they now they've been put on
house arrests. They should have had their citizenships revoked and
they should have been deported because they were running a
scheme where they're bringing over more people from India and
giving them trucking licenses without the official without the proper
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training and accreditation, and like this only causes more problems.
But the judges give them a slap on the wrist.
They don't even put them in jail. They're on house arrest.
The fifty plus trucking licenses they had given out over
the last decade were not revoked. The courts interviewed these
students and they say, oh, don't worry, we were satisfied
(01:01:51):
with the training. Well, of course, like, obviously you've paid
these guys under the table to receive a trucking license
on an expedited fashion in order to to get things
like permanent residency faster because you can have a record
of employment.
Speaker 7 (01:02:05):
Like this is all a large scheme.
Speaker 6 (01:02:08):
And instead of properly cracking down on these things, the
government is not trying not to jeopardize people's immigration status.
And they're they're they're giving them these soft sentences and
slaps on the wrist.
Speaker 4 (01:02:22):
That's a betrayal, that's treason. You should be hung for
that shit I do.
Speaker 5 (01:02:25):
But like this, at the same time, like the politicians
that are pandering to form people that end up killing
actual Canadians, there used to be a punishment for that,
and actually I was gonna run that earlier. I don't
know how much time you have, but essentially, like there
is no accountability. And I've said this for years, right,
And the thing is, when I start speaking out, especially
you know, like Tota became a big platform I got,
(01:02:47):
I would have prob all the accounts I've had have
been banned multiple times. I probably have like two hundred
thousand people fogged me because I've had massive accounts, you know,
fifty forty k and uh, you know, I always get
But at first I would always talk about like politics
and like this idea of the government and how they're
parasitic to some extent. And my biggest point was always
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there is no accountability. If we have no accountability for
these people that control our country and they can do
whatever they want. They can steal money like whatever her
name is mc was it mckinna that took all that money,
like billions of dollars? They lost all of this stuff.
Like if this is any other country, like if you
were in China, you did that, you probably put to death.
Like the thing is, these people are stealing our money,
(01:03:30):
They're they're killing their own citizens, especially with things like
made and all these other programs and these it's it's
sickening and the fact that like I don't understand where
we go from here at the end of the day,
because like, if politicians aren't held accountable, they're gonna keep
doing the same thing over and over again to enrich
themselves off of our back while they play portend and
(01:03:51):
then at the end of the day, actual Canadians suffer
and get hurt and now are more living on the streets,
there's more being addicted to drugs because it's hopeless and
it's not to blackpill people. But at the end of
the day, like if we do not figure out a
way to hold politicians accountable for their actions, like I
did a video that web viral. I was just singing
in my car whatever talking about how Trudeau should have been,
(01:04:13):
Like how did he walked away laughing his ass off
with all the money that he stole from us, no accountability,
know nothing, no punishment from all the lives that he affected,
detrimental harm that he did on people. It's like, how
do we have a political system where they don't They're
just like handing everything to foreign people and while they
kill us.
Speaker 7 (01:04:32):
It's just I don't know where we go from there.
Speaker 6 (01:04:35):
Yeah, but again I think it comes down to the liberalization,
the atomization of society. We're not organized, so they can
they can take advantage of us and there's no consequences. Yeah,
So we need to be more organized, and we need
to put direct pressure on these politicians and make sure
that they can't continue to succeed if they're not. If
they're just going to take us for granted and and
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surroundedness and call us racist and and and.
Speaker 7 (01:05:01):
Get away with corruption and stuff.
Speaker 6 (01:05:03):
No, we need to put our foot down and demand
better from our politicians or they're going to lose our support.
Speaker 7 (01:05:08):
So I like to try and stay focused on become
the minority forward because that could happen.
Speaker 5 (01:05:16):
What if it gets to that point, Like what it
gets to the point where like Canadians are the minority
in their own country, because that can mean we're.
Speaker 6 (01:05:22):
Certainly heading in that direction. But even like we're probably
going to be the minority in this country by twenty
thirty five. But even if that happens, we'll still be
the most significant minority. Like, we still need to get organized.
We can still win political power within our system without
being a super majority in this country. But I do
think we'll have to organize in order and coordinate in
order to be able to do that. And once we able,
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we are able to win power, we need to do
everything in our power to to to make sure that
Canada is again a majority Canadian country and forever will be.
Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:05:54):
But to end this one, tell the people, like kind
of what your platform is proposing, because I know you
guys have structure and stuff like that. I'd like to
get Greg Wycliffe on the show at some point. I like,
like he's always been He's got a great sense of humor,
like in the way that he does things. I always
kind of like that because I saw him during the
Convoy era and like, you know, he was someone that
(01:06:14):
I was like, Ah, you're kind of like me, you
think like me. Whatever, this is how we kind of
band together, right, But just to kind of give people,
I know I'm a little more stream, but like to
give people like an element of an idea and an
element of what you're kind of doing, what you're proposing,
at least in the short form, like I know it's
all on your website, but just to kind of give
people because I know, you know, our audience is primarily
(01:06:38):
primarily in the States. Like, we get a lot of
people listening from the States, you know, and they're interested
in what's going on in Canada. But we're growing even
more now in Canada and across the UK, and so
to kind of get your ideas out there for some
of these countries, you know, even places like Japan or
starting to shift and we get like lots of downloads
from there too. So it's like, you know, to give
(01:06:59):
people the idea of what you're kind of doing and
why you're doing it, just to maybe help others too
that are maybe in different countries that maybe could come
to the same conclusion maybe you.
Speaker 7 (01:07:10):
Know, yeah, absolutely So.
Speaker 6 (01:07:12):
The Dominion Society is what we call a vanguard metapolitical movement.
We're not a political party, we don't run in elections,
but we're coordinating a voting block of like minded Canadians
in order to put pressure on existing governments, institutions, political parties,
in order to influence the culture and push everyone towards
our direction. So we advocate for two core ideas Canadian nationalism,
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which we've talked a lot about today, but also our
core concept is remigration. So this is kind of an
avant garde concept coming out of Europe and becoming increasingly
popular in mainstream amongst European parties in a number of
different countries, and we're looking to bring this concept to
Canada and make it a normal idea. We want people
(01:07:57):
to hear this word, understand what it means, and feel
confident saying it. And we kind of put forward a clear,
concise re migration plan that we think would save the
Canadian nation from disappearing forever. So you can find it
on our website, Dominions Society dot ca A. It's a
(01:08:17):
very simple website, it's only a few pages and it
kind of breaks down the mass immigration crisis in Canada
as well as providing solutions that we think would rectify
the situation. So we have a three phase ten point
plan that attacks all the major issues with immigration in Canada.
We put forward ideas like a total moratorium on immigration,
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so we kind of it's broken down into three phases.
The first one is kind of shut the door in
decentivized settlement, so eliminate a lot of the pull factors
that people who are coming here to take advantage of
our social systems and stuff like this, while also making
an environment that's a little bit less hospital hospitable for immigrants,
toying courage them to go back home. Phase two is
(01:09:02):
to remove what we call the illegitimate population. In Phase
three is to rebuild a cohesive and sovereign nation. So
phase phase one is kind of broken down into four
main policies, and that's an immigration moratorium. So stopping all
ongoing immigration, permanent residents, temporary foreign workers, all of it,
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put put it on pause for five to ten years
while the kind of situation stabilizes. We want to abolish
the temporary foreign worker program, it's terrible. We want to
restrict birthright citizenship right now. Can has some of the
most liberal birthright citizenship rules in the world. You know,
kids born to illegals, tourists, temporary foreign workers all automatically
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get citizenship and then they can be used it as
an anchor baby baby to cause a bunch of chain
migration and bring over family members. So we think this
needs to be abolished entirely. You know, you must have
at least one Canadian parent in order to get Canadian citizenship.
It's pretty common.
Speaker 7 (01:10:02):
Around the world.
Speaker 6 (01:10:04):
And then the fourth policy is just a basket of policies.
Do as I said make can the less hospitable to immigrants.
This is things like abolishing access to social services for
non citizens, UH, enforcing Quebec style kind of language laws
in terms of public signage and stuff like this. It
should all be in English or French. It should be
in Hindi and Mandarin, and all these things. Banning dual citizenship,
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banning kind of kosher and halal slaughter, these kind of
anti Canadian ideas. So just making it so that people
aren't coming here to just take advantage of our of
our social supports and UH and taking all the ways
that they're able to live as kind of foreigners amongst us.
Speaker 7 (01:10:46):
That's crazy.
Speaker 5 (01:10:47):
They it is crazy that it's like, you know that
they don't incentivize Canadians to have kids. The amount I
always bring this up, like the amount of money that
they could put into incentivize and Canadians to have kids
and building up our population. People don't like this. But
doing what Hungary did, which took inspiration from what Germany
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did in the nineteen thirties, was the idea of like okay,
you have one kid, you get your loan cut in acquority.
Speaker 4 (01:11:16):
You have two kids, your loan cut in half. Four kids.
Speaker 5 (01:11:18):
You don't have to pay for your house. You give
people so they can build up the economy, build up
their population.
Speaker 7 (01:11:25):
There is ways to do this.
Speaker 5 (01:11:26):
White people now the worldwide minority, less than seven percent
of us. And you know, I do think some of
these things are being done on purpose to us, and
a lot of people don't want to admit or talk
about this stuff. But you know, to end this on
to a little bit, I just because you know, it's
almost Remembrance Day and I feel like at least to
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get your thought on this of the stamp of the Sikhs.
Ten Sikhs fought in World War One and zero in
World War Two. So what do you think about this
erasure of our history and uplifting some foreigner that had nothing.
Speaker 7 (01:12:04):
To do with Canada.
Speaker 6 (01:12:06):
Yeah, I think it's really despicable, especially on Remembrance Day
of all things. There are so many fascinating and amazing
Canadian heroes that served in the World Wars and wars subsequently,
and I think we should do more to lionize and
create awareness around actual Canadians that served and served bravely.
(01:12:28):
We'll be putting out a lot of content over the
next week to raise awareness of different historical war heroes
that I think we deserve a lot more attention. I
think someone like Arthur Curry would be a lot more
appropriate to have on a stamp than some random nameless
Seek person. I think it's absolutely inappropriate. We should be
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croud of our own identity and our own people, not again,
not just trying to make Canada more welcoming to foreigners.
Speaker 5 (01:12:56):
And now I'm trying to calculate a little more because
I've been pissed in some of my videos and I'm
like try to be more to calculate in the way
that I do things and stuff like that, because like
it just instantly, I just wanted to like yell about it.
It's because it's so disrespectful, Like ten seeks fought in
World War One, ten that represented Canada, and then in
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World War Two, they don't even know the number. It's
probably zero because it was very strict and stuff like that.
And I did a video because one of the things
that Indians like to do is we fought for the
British Empire, especially like Seeks to and it was zero
point two percent. It was like a fraction of a
fraction that actually fought compared to the European might that
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I in my opinion, was used to I think World
War one and two was used to essentially destroy Europe.
And there's other reasons give Jews, Israel and stuff like that,
but like there is, it wasn't the war that they
sold people that it was, and it is the most
disrespectful thing. All of those men are rolling in their graves,
all of our ancestors that fought and died for the country.
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They would look at places like Brampton and be sick
to their stomach and not they would have never fought
in the first place. They would have they would have
fought for Canada and stayed here and tried to push
against these policies and these politicians that did this to
this country.
Speaker 6 (01:14:13):
I think that there seeks that fought in World War One.
But they can have a stamp in Punjab. I know,
you don't need to have a stamp in Canada. Canadians
fought here, yes, for Canada, for freedom, regardless of of
what you think about the wars they they they they
fought for their for crown and country they perceive, and yeah,
we should respect their their sacrifice and the risks that
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they took.
Speaker 7 (01:14:35):
They took risks country, which is what they did.
Speaker 5 (01:14:38):
They took they they risked all of that and fought
and died and sacrificed so much for the future generations
of their own people, not for some like Seek or
Hindu or any other Chinese, nobody else like they They
did it for their own people, to preserve their culture,
because they believed that they didn't do that all we
all be speaking German, but you're gonna speep speaking Punjabis
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soon if people don't do anything about it.
Speaker 7 (01:15:01):
It's true.
Speaker 6 (01:15:02):
And in Canadians at the time, we're very anti immigration.
And it's not even like anti third world immigration, although
they were anti third world immigration. They were anti immigration
from from Europe in general. There was a very isolationist
kind of attitude amongst Canadians pre and post World War
one and two. So certainly they they would not like
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to see what Canada has become. It they were fighting
as proud members of the Empire, and to see how
that's fallen apart, I think would be would be The
UK is crazy.
Speaker 5 (01:15:32):
All those men that fought and died for their country
we hand over to Muslims is the craziest show.
Speaker 6 (01:15:37):
No, we're going to take back Canada from the foreigners
and then we're gonna go and we'll we'll help take
back the UK and Australia and and and really make
the whole empire great again.
Speaker 4 (01:15:45):
We gotta bring my buddy. It's funny because he's Irish.
Speaker 5 (01:15:48):
He hates the bridge because of what they did to
their people and stuff like that. But like because he's in,
he's not North. They fought right the ra and stuff.
But it is finny. Like to end this, I just
want to mention like that the Canadian I lot of
people don't even know Canadians didn't want the flag change.
Speaker 4 (01:16:04):
It was forced upon us. Like I have the red
end sign.
Speaker 5 (01:16:07):
Now I have to replace it again because this tree
keeps fucking cutting it up. But I have this huge
flagpole in the back and I always raise it up
and I almost want to get a bigger one. But
there's this tree that as soon as the weather's bad,
it's like in it. So I'm like it's so high up,
I'm gonna have to like try to like trim it
or some shit.
Speaker 7 (01:16:23):
But it is.
Speaker 5 (01:16:24):
Uh. It's saying I embraced and even pushed trying to
push on other people to be like you need to
embrace this even like, uh, I there's a guy at
work that's like thirty seven thirty eight. He's not like
what's going on, and he even is like I want
to get that flag, Like, uh, you know, I have
a sticker on the back of my car that's the
red end sign. So I'm like, it is funny that
now even the younger kids, I'm trying to impose this
(01:16:45):
on them, like this was the real Canadian flag. And
and you know, like I said, my approach is a
little different. I had a video viral I said fuck
this flag and it was the Canadian flag and then
I was like, this is the real flag. And it
essentially was to like how you captivate people through I
would say more of an intellectual political way where I
like to enrage people in a second and then explain
(01:17:07):
why I'm saying these things right, to like make them
think about what I'm actually saying. Right, you got to
cook people in and uh no, I appreciate you coming on.
I've want to talk to you for a while. We
do a ligne a lot in the way that we
think and stuff like that, and I would love, I
mean to join the dominion society. I was gonna do
it last month with the kid and everything. It gets, uh,
(01:17:28):
it gets uh, it gets crazy, right, But I'm gonna
join and I want the pain and all that stuff,
and I'll show case that.
Speaker 6 (01:17:33):
You gotta you gotta sign up and get your nice nicexiety. Definitely,
I'll send you a car and I'll send you a
nice letter. I'll sign it myself. So yeah, I know,
if if, if you, if you're like mind a Canadian,
if you're if you're a nationalist, we need you to
get involved. We need you to head over to Dominion
Societies dot Ca, check out our ideas, learn more a
bit about the org, and look to sign up as
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a member. It's twenty five dollars a year. We send
you a nice pin in a nice card, and uh,
we look to get people involved.
Speaker 4 (01:18:02):
That's a pretty it's pretty possible too.
Speaker 5 (01:18:05):
That's like you know, yeah, you know, and it makes
sense because we need to really push towards this, and
you know, uh, I appreciate you coming on, you know,
obviously tell people where to find you and all that stuff,
and uh, I think that this is detrimental that we
have to do this and collectivize and come together or
I don't know what this country is going to look
like for my kids when they're my age, especially even
(01:18:26):
just younger. So uh, you know, I want to to
push people, especially if you listen and you're in Canada, uh,
to embrace nationalism and understand that if we do not
preserve our way of life, we will lose it forever.
And I do believe in this, this this concept, and
I have a concept, this truth of the fact that yes,
our children will be part of persecuted minority in their
own country. It's happening in UK, it's happening in Ireland,
(01:18:48):
in place like that all over Europe. If we don't
put our foot down now, we will become just like
them and there will be the crime stabbings even worse
than they are now.
Speaker 7 (01:18:57):
Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:18:59):
You can find us on all social media platforms Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, TikTok.
You can find us at Dominion SoC sc We're posting
there every day. If you want to follow me personally,
I mostly post on Twitter, you can find me. It's
my full name at Daniel Tyree.
Speaker 7 (01:19:18):
So yeah, do follow along.
Speaker 6 (01:19:19):
Do check out our website, become a member if you're interested.
We're looking to keep Canada, Canada.
Speaker 5 (01:19:26):
Yeah, and and people will see this too, Like I
never shared my Instagram on the show because we have
Strange new podcast, which people know, go follow stuff on
a stranger podcast. But also the people I'm sure where now,
but the Raptilian and I repost a lot of the
Dominion society stuff I shared in stories, so you guys
will obviously see this stuff, so obviously go follow them.
(01:19:46):
And this is how we do it is branch off
and kind of collectively come together and share each other's messages.
Speaker 4 (01:19:52):
You know, we're not all going to agree on everything
or the way everyone.
Speaker 5 (01:19:55):
Does the thing, the way that they do it or whatever,
but this is about collectivizing people who really do care
about this country and want to preserve it. And I
do advocate for other countries to attempt to do this
in Europe and stuff like that. So we have to
try and change something. The first thing to do is
talk about it, expose what's going on, and then the
next thing is to actually make like the physical steps
(01:20:16):
to actually change and and and push these ideas out
there for people to latch onto and then hopefully move
forward in a unified thing right that you know, yeah,
everyone remembers that thing from ants, right, you know, if
you he's like, you know, it's just one ant, but
if they all come together, you know it's over right. Yeah,
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that's funny. I actually love those series. Awesome, Okay, let's
thank you. Everybody, support the show, support the Dominion Society
and yeah, until next time, stay strange.
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