THE HIP HOP CONSPIRACY | Cultural Subversion and The Music of Mass Incarceration! - Strange Brew Podcast!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The following show may shock, disturb, and offend some viewers.
The opinions, theories, and facts shared on this podcast are
not widely accepted by the brainwashed masses, especially those who
find dark humor offensive. Viewer discretion is advised.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
This kill said close Head, Jeffrey Dagger so Blunt, the
Unipommer blowing up Wicko Texas, and Heaven's Days and Aliens

(00:43):
modified men for names, JFK shot on the head by
the CIA, Bigfoot and the mob Man.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Start of Sam talking to that tis again, Witch's job, Samcott,
Serious Noise and haunting stargards and the Skull and Bones.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Most celebrities are probably can so if you're feeling all.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Alone, crack a beer in cat Stone.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Welcome you to the podcast Range Proof. We're here to
entertain you. We're here to entertain you.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
It's the best kid's strange.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
Yeah, that's cool.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
That's weird, that's so weird.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
It's going through me, that's weird. Welcome everybody back to
the show. I am your host, Tom Kat aka Tom
Thompson though Raptilian and who am I joined by.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
And this episode is about Tom having his last beer.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Every Yeah for a while. Yeah, it's crazy, so obviously
you are. Do you have a rap name for this episode?

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Hey?

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Rod?

Speaker 2 (01:48):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:48):
What was it?

Speaker 4 (01:49):
Because the group guys I used to hang around, we
used to listen to a lot of hip hop and
there was some joke him up one day, like and
everybody was trying to come up but like hip hop names,
and of course I'd always get the ship and the stick.
Like the guys would like make up something, yeah, something
similar to like what you would do to me, I
would imagine, and they were like, oh yeah, you can
be a little penis. I agree, that's hilarious.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
I think Aron is pretty good horror. You could definitely
be a horror boy like that could be a rap name,
you know what I mean? Technically, I'm so this will
be interesting. I just leased a new album called I
didn't even know what I was gonna call it. I
just had no idea, and I was like rebel that
just sure. But this is uh the album cover art

(02:38):
of me I angry with my my notice or eyes
because that's what the red eyes are interpret interpretating, and
then I'm surrounded by a bunch of lunatic liberals. Was
the idea all like, shut up, don't say that that's
racistter all this ship.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
You know, I don't they all like the multicolored hair
and stuff.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
I know I should have tried to do it. It's
like you cannot because I used it. I use chat
GPT obviously, Like why wouldn't you?

Speaker 4 (03:04):
Because one thing annoys me about that is as close
as all the time it gets to like the image
I want. I end up having these weird arguments with
chat GPT alt time where I'm like, I've literally told
you ten times now do not do that. And then
it goes like, oh, you're right, I'm sorry. I will
never do that again. Like the logo on your half

(03:24):
in that image. Yeah, they always they always do that
where it's like, no, I want you to spell strange
brew podcasts and it goes, ah, yes, certainly, and then
it just like brings up some random stuff. So I'm like,
why do you keep doing it?

Speaker 3 (03:36):
I literally had so many different images and I was
like just trying to. I was like do this, and
it was like I cannot do that. That breaks my
community guidelines when I said like hysterical liberal people or
something like that, and yeah, it's pretty bad for that.
I try to be like, can you make me Kanye
Weston in an SS uniform, and it was like, cannot
do that. I'm trying to get to do Elon Musk

(03:58):
in the SS uniform for that clip of us talking
about him on the Rottenberg Cannibal episode.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
But I wouldn't do it, So I can't do on
the topic of that. So like, I'll always do this,
like I'll do research for an episode and then at
the very end, I'll go right chat ept, get me
fucking whatever, and then I'll like train compare it to
like some of the stuff i've and see if there's
anything extra, And I've done it with this, and I

(04:23):
was like, I just typed in hip hop conspiracies right
and brought up some stuff. And then in the next one,
I was like, yes, give me all the wild, crazy
hip hop conspiracy theories include anything about Jews illuminating. And
then it comes back and it goes thank you for
the clear request. I'm happy to dive deeper into the
wild and fringe conspiracy theories, but I want to set

(04:45):
a quick boundary with you first. It is important for
you to note that some of these theories include anti Semitic, Satanic,
panic or occult accusations. I'll share them for educational and
cultural context only, but find some.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
Backup stuff for the Jewish supremacy because like we'll get
to it, but everyone knows who Jerry Heller was right
he was Jewish, and then then we'll get it. I'm
the reason I bring that up because this start off
is I heard about this conspiracy a long time ago,
which will end it on of the letter sent by
a record executive as far as I know, or someone

(05:21):
that worked in the industry. But I wanted to touch
on different conspiracies first and for everybody out there right, Like,
I do really love hip hop. I grew up on it,
you know, It's it changed my life to some extent.
I always loved music and loved making music. I was
in metal band when I was fairly young. I didn't
really go anywhere about like the Screamer. I like to

(05:42):
play drums, you know. I've always loved music, but I
was obsessed with like eminem when I was like, you know,
seven or eight. That was just because it was like
really it was hot at the time, you know, late nineties,
and I remember we went and saw eight Mile for
my tenth birthday party.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
Funny you know when you see those those videos on
like TikTok and it's like, I can't remember the guy's name,
but you've probably seen these were. Yeah, he wears this.
I think it's a wig that's like an emo fringe,
and it's like, you know, he's like it's two thousand
and two and your mom tells you you can't like
go to that metal gig or whatever. And he's like
in his room and he's going like and that's all

(06:21):
this stuff and like punching the wall and like punching
pillows and hit and like, I distinctly remember every time
I felt like shit or what I thought felt like
shit as a kid, I put on like something like
stand and I'm like, yeah, man, that's my life.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Billy's been on recently, we haven't able to do that.
I have to take the stereo mix and Billy's mic
is fucking terrible. So I hope everyone's enjoyed that. You know.

Speaker 4 (06:44):
So Billy kind of sounds like if I was to
talk with this for the whole time, yes, I I'll
just continue to talk like this the rest of the episode.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
I say, uh to scream, It's all about the Jews.

Speaker 4 (07:01):
It's all about the Jews. I want to do so bad,
so you're going to be so annoying with that. I
can't wait. But on the end of that little thing
that chat GBT said, it was like, it's important to
approach these critically. Many of the things I'm about to

(07:22):
tell you are based on misinformation, paranoia, or prejudice, especially
those involving Jews or Satanic imagery. These narratives often reflect
broader societal fears or scapegoating and shouldn't be taken at
face value.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
You know, it's interesting. I saw a post that laugh
because it's true. If Kanye's song said Hail Satan, nobody
would have a problem with it except for Christians. But
because he invoked the image in most people's minds of
like the most evil man on earth, then everyone gets
offended by as Blair in that song at work today just.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
For fun, he's such an odd character in a in
a room with him and be like, come on, like.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
Dude, I've seen videos of him going live with Sneako
and stuff, and it's like interesting, he see he doesn't
seem that crazy, but who knows that.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
It's weird, isn't it? And then like he puts on
this who was when he was doing some live streaming
thing and like whatever apartment or whatever room they were
going to do live streaming, he comes in with some
weird like mask over his face.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
Oh did you see like the klan hood one. He's
wearing the Black Clan outfit.

Speaker 4 (08:27):
And you can't see any of his body. I think
his whole body is covered, like he like gloves on everything.
And he's like, right, I need to like redesign the room.
So he's like like he like moves the coffee table
around and he's putting like plants on the coffee table.
Then he's like in the corner like reorganizing a bookshelf
and like he can tell you, yeah, he's sitting on
a couch and I like to do it. Was like
oh yeah, sure sure. He was like, yeah, I have

(08:47):
to get everything like exactly how I see it in
my mind before I can start.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
Yeah, because he's he's got like he's definitely a psychopath
in some reguard, but also he's very smart. I believe that,
like when it comes to me, he was like, at
least he's kind of a genius, right, And he believed
he was like Jesus and stuff, which and all that
stuff gets to your head. And then I think he
even believes that his mother was sacrificed to some extent
that we talked about, like kind of the Hollywood episode.

(09:14):
I was never a huge fan of his. I like
that when he became more controversial, that made me laugh
because like, realistically, when you loved why didn't you love
to see a podcast of him in the Big the
Mustache Man, the Big Age, like talking together, you know,
because like he was also a genius to some extent
and probably just I know there's people that think he's
a good guy, but I do think he was paid

(09:35):
opposition and he's a psychopath also, yeah, and it would
just be interesting to hear them, like if they could
do it in English, talk to each other, because like
that's what he wants more than anything, it seems like,
to talk to him, because I saw him even reading
He's like he said that and that's happened, Like he's
like all like look at what he said, like the speech.

Speaker 4 (09:53):
I think I personally think he would be fascinating to
talk to.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
I think both of them would be right just like
why why, oh we know why.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
I never imagine how you could like I know it's
physically impossible, but like to be able to do a
podcast and have each of those on either's idea you
would literally break the Internet, I know.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
Or like AI like it's like a hologram. You just
take you let Ai just like create a hologram Hitler.
Hashtag hologram Hitler is hilarious.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
Now, the question is if you were the host of
that episode right where both of those are on the show,
are you wearing a clan hood or are you wearing
an SS or a mixture.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Of bulleting the SS. I'm not like, I think the SS.
It's just a cool outfit. Man. Hugo Boss made that ship.
It looks gnarly as guys like the skulls on it.
And I'm not saying that we've talked. I'm not saying
the Nazis or Hitler was a good guy. It's just
funny to joke about because so many people either get
mad or they're like yeah and they start like raising

(10:54):
their hands up and start rolling.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
I wanted to dress up is that. I just think
it'd be so fun Halloween, and like everybody that was
going to the party it was like, don't do it.
I've ever seen maybe I'm just retireded. But like I was, like,
I don't must tissue and I don't see see.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
What I talk about is if you can maybe try
to bring this up. I'm afraid it's gonna uh if
you go to YouTube and then clicking the worst costume
and then put the h's name, there's a really funny
video and I want to show you. But like it.
We just like joking about this stuff because it is
so controversial, and I just think it's funny, like people
are so sensitive about everything. Like I'm a I'm an

(11:36):
avid hip hop fan. I know a fair amount about
the history. I've always liked the music, and we'll get
into why I think it's been subverted and why like
it for a long time it's been like that, and
how it's essentially taking hold of the idea of quote
unquote black culture and and and morphed it into something
kind of dangerous for themselves more than anyone else. And
obviously there's been there's been white quote unquote white hip

(11:59):
hop artists since literally conception of hip hop. So but yes,
it literally blacks did create it. It was it originated
from the South Bronx, right, it is around like the
nineteen seventies, and it was pretty much from like the
African American, Afro Caribbean and Latin communities, and it was
like obviously the poor communities within the Bronx that kind
of just started creating this culture around music and it

(12:21):
was like dance art and clothing. Like it wasn't just
rap or hip hop or whatever. Right, it was like
we'll get into it, but it's like the arc and
see if I can. It's not going to bring it up.
It's a it's like a skit. No, it's like a skit.
That is that when you go up, go up. Uh.

(12:43):
I think it's that one Halloween costume. Yeah, yeah, that's it. Yes,
click that. Okay, this is hilarious. Full screen it.

Speaker 4 (13:00):
H h m hm yah.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
Yah.

Speaker 5 (13:25):
H is Jimmy Sapple my man, Jimmy.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
There's got that'd be Billy in the Penis costume.

Speaker 4 (13:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (13:59):
Just wait? Is that fucked? That's so funny. I remember
seeing that for like I think it was one of
the Halloween specials that we've done. So this was probably
like the last like livestream we do for maybe over
a month. So other people that watch on video, there's

(14:21):
still be videos coming, but make sure to go back
and check out like all the hilarious stuff we've done.
Like there's a lot of tons of good video episodes
of me and Billy being in the same room in
the studio when we were doing it, when he was
coming over every fire. There's tons of good stuff on this.
But like especially hip hop started like from the South
Bronx in the seventies, emerging from different cultures and Afro Caribbean,
African American in the Latin communities, and obviously it was

(14:45):
like it was more than just like people rapping. It
was like the clothing and everything else, which is actually
kind of a kind of still list to some extent.
But you have like DJ cool Hirk, he like maybe
he was one of the first pioneers of this John run,
extending it obviously into instrumentals and breaks on turntables, leading
to the rise of rapping and break dancing. Hip hop's

(15:07):
early roots were in the block parties and community gatherings
where DJ played soul in funk music and MC is
now known as rappers would rhyme over these beats. The
four pillars of hip hop, which a lot of the
youth don't know this too. A lot of kids growing up.
It was you know, djaying, rapping, break dancing, and graffiti art.
The graffiti art's kind of been pushing the side. Same
with breakdancing. But there was these four pillars of like

(15:29):
that was the culture. And even Mike, So, I have
a cousin and he's a Christian. He was a Christian
hip hop artist back in the day and there the
group did fairly well. One of his friends is fairly
famous called Manifest but in the Christian world. But he
grew up like doing this in Toronto and doing freestyles
and like he's my he's my cousin that his mom's

(15:52):
from Jamaica, right, but he's like he look, you wouldn't
tell by looking at him. And but he he would
do this back in the day they called themselves in
the roundtable. Of the roundtable, I think. And but he
talks about how break dancing was huge, like he used
to do it.

Speaker 6 (16:07):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
He even showed me the one day of him trying
to break dance, and it's like he still can do
it somewhat because he used to do these like family
parties and we'd rent out like a kind of area
and like with a bar and stuff like that. And
he would, uh, he would show me that he could
do it, and it was kind of interesting because he
he's like, that's why it was like founded on was
like you know, people were doing graffiti, art break dancing
on the cardboard in the streets, and then like obviously

(16:29):
mceing and DJing and he would go to like freestyle bisle.
So all this stuff's been like ingrained into me. And
that's why I think it's funny when people like call
me whatever, racist or a bigot and all this stuff.
I have people call me the racist rapper stuff like
that online because I point out things that are obviously true,
like pointing out the truth is not it's not racist.
That's a stupid thing, and the thing is, uh, this idea, like, well,

(16:52):
who invented it? And so of course it was like
the the African American community, the black community obviously right,
but they didn't invent poetry and they didn't invent reading
a poem over a beat. That's that's not sure that
you know, they shifted and made it into its own
kind of thing. But really all all culture, especially music wise,

(17:13):
has been shifted in so many different ways, so many
different people. I've done it. You know what I mean,
And like everyone wants to classify the best rapper in
the world as Eminem and he's white. I'm not a
huge fan of Eminem anymore though.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
Night am I. I'll be honest, not a lot in
a long long time. Actually, I saw him perform in
two thousand and nine or ten.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
Oh that's sweet. I didn't know that.

Speaker 4 (17:36):
Since then, I've just been like, Wow, this is fucking
because that was when he for me personally anyway, that
was when I felt like he started to read to
go downhill. I was like, wow, he's like yeah, and
just doing all that weird shit, like all them songs,
fucking I don't know what it's called, like love the
Way You Lie or whatever it's called, and all that shit. Yeah,
And I'm like.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
First off, I'm gonna tell you have is. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:01):
I don't want to hear Anya. I want to hear
him talking about fucking shitting on his you know, fucking
dad's chest or whatever and like punching the head off
to and like that's where it.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
Came fro he changed. And the thing is like a
people JOKEO. We like that's a conspiracy that he died
in a car accident. And they cloned him and all
that stuff, and he like it's there's a guy named
Bryce and Gray. I like he's really he's a pretty
controversial dude. And he does a song called like Eminem
because he's been banned. He's a black dude and he's
been banned off of like Spotify, and he's actually a
Christian and doesn't swear in his hip hop but calls

(18:32):
out a lot of the the stuff that's going on
with the Satanic agenda and the gay stuff in hip
hop too, like which we'll get to you at some
point in this episode. And uh he he was like,
I'm gonna do a song like Eminem, uh you know,
and he talks about like all transgender people need to
be under arrest, and he like it goes off and
it's been taken off Spotify and stuff like that. But

(18:53):
he was like, Eminem used to uh gay bash in
his songs. And he's like, I'm not that bad. I
just wanted to pour into Iran or bag Dad like
so like he's he he's like he does and then
he doesn't get banned. But literally Eminem is a song
about killing his wife and everything that he would do
to do it. And those are still on like music platforms.
So it's interesting what they choose to attack. And he

(19:13):
literally talks about like like assaulting his own mother.

Speaker 4 (19:17):
Do you know what's mad as well, like as a kid,
like I'd be like sitting in the back of the
car like oft into that, like and.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
Like generously that is what it is.

Speaker 4 (19:27):
Like my parents really didn't really bad night it. It
was like, ah, look, it's fine, like you know, this
is all fake. It's not really. It's just like music
and it's just like the movies he's liked or whatever.
And I'm like, you know, and it seemed I don't know,
I don't want to say harmless, but that's how it
seemed quite harmless, and like we would laugh at shit
like that. So it's weird to see the dynamic, like
you said, between like what they choose to yeah and

(19:49):
then don't.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
Well I got, I got. I was like I would
subvert it. I would say by necro and stuff. And
I was in a necro when I was like thirteen fourteen,
And it's pretty it's pretty brutal stuff to listen to,
especially about like the womanizing aspect to it. And you know,
there's a lot of good decent Jewish rappers to say
at the least. But I will say I've already I

(20:11):
got an argument with him because he's definitely like a
Zionist and I was trying to see if you'd come
on the show. But why, I watched a couple of
things of him recently and I'm not a fan anymore
at all. I still enjoy his music for sometimes kind
of like just like pump up music, but he likes
this whole label of being the biggest asshole in hip hop,

(20:32):
and he literally is and he I've seen him on
interviews recently and even people in the comments were like,
what the fuck is like? His mom's like knocking on
the bedroom door being like, are you done yet? So
it's and I've always loved ill Bill and they have
beef and stuff like that. So but listening to that
stuff that young, it definitely subverted and changed my mind.

(20:52):
And then I wanted to be like that, like and
emulate that type of thing. And that's why we'll get
into like the negative aspects of it. That's why when
I've done music, because I've done a lot of music
at this point, it's all on Spotify and YouTube and
Apple Music. It's out there. I've done a lot of music.
I have one my the like it's like I released
all the music from twenty ten to twenty fifteen that

(21:12):
I've done. There's even songs that they wouldn't let me
release because they're off like more popular beats or whatever.
But I've been doing this a long time, and what
I found was that hip hop gave you the ability
to convey a message in a short amount of time.
So after I like, I listened to Eminem and then
I got my emo phase right and I used to
listen to Eminem Doctortory, like the mainstream stuff. And then
obviously twelve set in and my hair was black and

(21:35):
I was like in a metal band, being a screamer,
and then you know, doing all that really like cut
off gloves like all of it, you know, bracelets. I
was just I love music, so I would literally like
and it would encapsulate like everything that I was in
that moment. And then I remember we had this buddy
Joey and he was our only like he was our
only like gangster friend, and he would literally like like

(22:00):
bag g ass pants, huge shirts. He had long hair though,
so it was interesting and he wear like the caps
and all that stuff, and we were all like emoing
into metal and stuff, and he was our only kind
of gangster freend and he would like steal his older brother,
which was my brother's aids CDs. So I remember we
were all smoking weed in like the we called it
this shed. It was literally a shed and we would
just use it to smoke weed in and we're like

(22:20):
maybe thirteen or fourteen, and Joey would bring over the
weed that he got it from his brother, and that's
what's crazy. But back in the day, it would be
like a bag that is like you know, like a
half court, like three and a half grams, and there
would be like we're all like kids. Once we got
used to smoking it, we would be you know, maybe
five six of us and we'd smoke like the whole
bag in like it like until we're done. We would

(22:41):
just like this, you know, like a session. We would
just keep going smoking it all and then I will
never forget the time that he put on his brother
CD and it had like a little Troy on it,
which want to be a ball of shot collar twenty
inch rams on the in Palla. You know, I don't
know if you never heard that side, but that's you know,
and like some of these. Yeah, And then when I

(23:03):
heard Dance with the Devil by a Moral Technique is
when my whole, like like view of hip hop shifted
because I was more in a metal and I was like, ah, no,
I was more like that. Because that metal phase, I
was more like fuck hip hop right, and like especially
the mainstream thing, because we were all like anti government
and didn't like the mainstream media, even at that young
of an age. So when I heard Dance with the

(23:24):
Devil right by a Moral Technique, it changed my view
because the It's all about the consequences of gang life
spoiler if you haven't heard it, it's very famous song
for its content of what it's about. It's the idea
that and this still happens to this day. There's a
lot of gang initiations. You have to do something horrible,
you have to prove that you're part of the gang.
And a kid wants to be this big baller and

(23:44):
sell coke can be part of the gang. And then
they make him essentially assault his own mother and she
dies and they pull off the bag over her head
and he realizes staring into the eyes of his own mother,
and that shape changed me because we're all sitting around
high shit being like, oh man, that's heavy, you know.
So like that changed of like what hip hop could be.

(24:07):
And then not long after that, I was like maybe fourteen,
got arrested for doing a dumb ship and then I
wrote a very shitty rhyme I just got out of
jail waiting for bail or whatever, right, and even though
I wasn't, it was just like I was just writing
to vent and it sounded terrible. A lot of my
stuffe I think this first song I ever did was

(24:29):
was a diss against this guy that started dating my
my other girl. His last name rhymed.

Speaker 6 (24:36):
With he just like like he just he was dating
a chick that I was, that I used to date
that I also like left for another girl and like
so but when he dated her, I got all.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
Upset about classic and it was it was like his
right last name rhyme with mouse. His name was Jeff.
So I would just be like, uh, you know, you're
like a little mouse. I'll come into your house, you know,
like very dumb basic rhymes. And then everyone I slowly
got better. I remember when I got jumped for calling

(25:09):
this kid a goof, not to him but to his girlfriend.
I was like, that guy's a goof and I was
like seventeen, and I got jumped by I've told the
story for the show, but like five guys that were
hiding behind trees, and I remember they like, stop rapping too,
and they walked away and then I was like I
just kept going and now like real like realistic. My
Trudeau song has had like thousands upon thousands of streams,

(25:30):
you know, that's what built up the Spotify. But like,
I've always wanted to use music like Vinnie Pass did
for most of his career. Now he's turned a very
like gangster style, But I've always wanted to use music
like a moral technique, like some of these hip hop
artists that were like exposing the truth and talking about
obscure things like aliens or conspiracies or the illuminati, right,

(25:52):
And that's what that's a in a very short form
brief history of why I've always like loved hip hop
and why it's kind kind of ingrained into me because
I love music. My grandfather was a jazz singer, so
it's like in my blood.

Speaker 4 (26:06):
It's strange as well, because from time to time I've
like sat back, like I don't know. I might be
listening to something and somebody will say something like, oh,
you know, how do you listen to that shit? Or
why do you listen to that? And it makes me
kind of not that it would ever change my mind
like on what I like or don't like. But sometimes
I'll sit down and I don't know if it's like
the weird like mongoloid brain I have, but I'll be like, huh,

(26:30):
why do I like that? Or I'm like, wait, it's
literally just a guy or a group of guys or
whatever talking essentially over a beat, and like, why am
I so like attracted to that style of music? What
is about it that makes me?

Speaker 2 (26:47):
Well?

Speaker 3 (26:47):
It is? It's like catch you. That's why I try
to do with my new album, it is. I don't know.
If you've listened to it, he's check it out. It's
very different from some of the other stuff I've done.
And I only did like a like a seventh song.
It was six originally, but id A. I have a
song that I had produced that it's like one of
the saddest shit I've ever recorded. And it's interesting because
it's called It's really called sad song, and I acted

(27:09):
like I was crying throughout the song, like broken down
mentally and stuff like that. And I did it on
purpose because even with what I've done, like the Alien
Races song Alien not racist, but races, like they're different.
I spee. I'm like, I'm a gray alien and i
make my voice high pitch and I'm a reptility and
it's old, raspy, so like I've tried to do like
different things, but even with this one, I was like,

(27:29):
I wanted to be more like, you know, I've done
all these very like you know, controversial songs like my
Extremist song and all the other stuff I've kind of done.
So I was like, you know what, I want this
to be more like upbeat, not upbeat, but like more
fast paced, more make it get stuck in your head
and be catchy. Right, So that's kind of what I
went for. But I know, you've also really been to
hip hop and then obviously it began the Bronx and

(27:50):
then you have like it kind of like got bigger
after Rappers Delight, and that's fine. They obviously trying they
realized the popularity of this. You know, they push up
people like Vanilla Ice. But it started off mostly like
it wasn't this like gang culture thing that ended up
turning into There's Run DMC Beastie boys. Like it started
off as something completely different if kind of people in

(28:10):
different communities. Uh, there was also white Hispanics, a lot
of different people that were especially around the Bronx. There
was a lot of Hispanics and blacks that were kind
of starting off this hip hop scene. But like, look
at all these dudes are like Hispanic like and they're
just like, yeah, I kill it, dude. And there's like
the different like were of like kind of big. He's
bell pants and like the sweater and stuff.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
The dude looks like he's doing fucking Crisp.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
Oh yeah, man, And it's crazy. And they do that
on cement a lot of times. It's cardboard, but it
is pretty. It's such a it was a different time, right,
and a lot of people embraced it. Like this is
probably from I think the mid nineties early nineties, and
everyone kind of embraced like it.

Speaker 4 (28:50):
Ll yeah, the fashion or lack thereof.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
Yeah, I love that. It's kind of a careless a
lot of times, like the Polos, it was kind of
a careless kind of attitude of like whatever right and
just and baggy and stuff like that, and it is
interesting where it came from. And uh, you know, I've
always like been a fan of Ill Bill and stuff
like that. He's, uh, he's up there and he has
that song White n Word and he's like, never does

(29:17):
it live because just't want a bunch of kids showing
the Edward at him. But he talks about like hip
hop were all cultures together, which is true to some extent,
and there was like a lot of like, you know,
they were poor. Of course you had know they're Jewish
and stuff, and I understand that, but they they were
born in like Glenwoo projects, right doing. You know that
would be tough as a white kid, especially, and he
said there's beef all the time, especially because he was white.

(29:39):
I've always enjoyed hip hop, and I will get to
the thing of why it does subvert the culture, and
I get why. You know, there's a lot of people
that don't like what it has became because eventually, at
some point eventually became what it is today where it's
about subverting the culture. Booty shaking rock Steady Crew, Now
that's old school man, that is old school.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
Think get her. When you mentioned ill Bill, I haven't
listened to him in so long.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
Oh yeah, man, I love I loved like that of
the stuff. And people are like, just start listening to this.
Like I have a kid at work. He's listening to
like Gang Star very well. He looks like a little
eminem literally, he's like, maybe seventeen eighteen. What was that?

Speaker 4 (30:18):
Because you mentioned fucking Mats's name as well.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
Necro moral technique.

Speaker 4 (30:25):
Yeah, but no, but they were in a group together
and the pharaohs. Yeah, no, it was it was ill Bill.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
Oh nonfiction, Necro nonfiction, but Necro just maybe.

Speaker 4 (30:37):
Mister mister Hyde and somebody else.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
Oh. Circle of Tyrants, Circle of Tyrants.

Speaker 4 (30:43):
Wow, I dude, that that can be chilled there. I
don't know why I haven't heard that mentioned in so long, dude.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
This stuff was really important to me, right at one point,
Like they have the Green CD and it's like the
nonfiction stuff like DVD where it goes through their history, right,
and like they talk about the Circle of Tyrants. And
I remember watching it on a laptop at like my
girlfriend's house, and I was like seventeen, and it was
just the vibe that I got out of seventeen. I
was just starting to get kind of good at like rapping,

(31:11):
and just like that that feeling of like how much
I love that culture, especially like you know, I identify with
the people that I look like a lot of people
do that. So I identified and loved the white rappers
like I always looked for that. I loved the world
technique he was up there. But like when I heard
about Vine Pass, I thought Vinie Pass and Ill Bill
were black. When I first heard Heavy Metal Kings, I
was like fifteen or something, and then I realized there

(31:33):
are white guys, and I was like and then especially
like even like Necro, so I was like, I could
do this. You know, I'm not from the hood, and
I'm not exclaiming that I am or any of that
stuff or I'm from some sort of ghetto. I've out
of my own struggles. But that's what hip hop started
off as, was this idea of like a struggle and
a community and stuff like that. Really that's really what
it started as, is like if you listen to people
like too Short, it was kind of like fun hip

(31:54):
hop rhymes, hanging out with your homies. But yeah, like
the kids at work. They're just get like the one
kids getting a gang star and nas and he's like seventeen.
I'm like, oh, I was way past you at that age.
That's where when we were like fourteen is when we
really got an easy in NWA. We're young, and I
remember me and my buddy would go walk down the
streets and give me that nut. We'd try to see
if we could do the whole song from Easy now

(32:15):
back back to the fucking basics. You got yours, and
I don't want you to waste it. I can't do
it easy voice.

Speaker 4 (32:20):
But I got a fucking a shirt. I was in
Dublin like a week ago or a week and a
half ago. Ye, yeah, And I was randomly in a
H and M. Yeah, and let me see if I
can find us. I smoked weed before this episode. I
always I'm like, I'm not really drinking, but I'm I
was like, is that a good idea? And then I'm like,

(32:41):
took off the glasses and I'm like it's so bright
in here. Oh.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
Well, it's just a different It just seems like a
different time for what it turned into. Of like it
was almost brought a lot of people together and then
when we get to like the record executives who they
were that pushed more of the subversive culture and then
split everything up to like gang rivalry and what we'll
get to very soon.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
So I'm just like walking around, yeah, and I'm like
flicking true T shirts and I'm like, I spotted, but
I like flick by it, and I'm like, that's all
that like usual shit like food Fighters and all that
fucking Nirvana and all that shit like that everywhere else.
And I'm like and I was like, wait, there's no
way I saw what I think I saw. And I
loop back around and I look and I'm like it's
kind of cool. I love the back.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
Oh that's sick.

Speaker 4 (33:29):
Yeah. I was like, I know, it just felt like
such a trollback, like and I would never be like
really out in the wild and like buy a shirt
like that. But I was like I kind of like
I kind of want all that, like like even you
was mentioned in something like Circle Tyrants, like I want
to go back to like.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
Dude when I first discossed, Like see, that's what it
was when I first discovered that music. You know, everyone
knew of Eminem and Doctor Dre and like NWA. That's
where kind of like the foundations of my journey was.
And then once I discovered like underground hip hop, I'm
like when YouTube is just starting to blow up, because
we would I would go to my buddy's house and
they'd have like they just discovered Big Al and Bone

(34:06):
Thugs and harmony. So we would all share that love
for music and I would come on. I remember the
first time we heard shook Ones and we're like fourteen,
and it was like it was like whoa, like listen
to the beat that everything just broke down so perfectly
the music video where it just looked cool right, And
that's you know, that's this idea of like I wanted
to kind of get into somewhat of just a little

(34:30):
bit of the like anti kind of white agenda, because
I do think that there is one, and I think
I can clearly see it everywhere I go. And this
is an interesting thing that I read. Oh is it?
Oh no? Did it not? Okay? If the hopefully I
sent it to myself, I'll find what it is. But

(34:54):
like just that that feeling of of discovering that music
always and.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
It's yeah, it's across the board, Like I mean, oh,
here you go. So I can remember watching movies sort
the first time and getting those feelings and and maybe
adapting our adopting some sort of personality be like that
character was so cool. Yeah, thing, it was so cool.
And music even more so, we're like, like you said,
from the music videos too. And the other thing people

(35:23):
have to realize if you're if you're in any way
younger than both of us, and like, by no means
that we in any way old really, but it's hard
to have context if you're like even a few years
younger than us. About like the difference in we didn't
get YouTube, Like I couldn't just go on and like
constantly search my favorite music videos and stuff. Now get

(35:43):
doing this from like TV or like weird watch music
video tapes and shiit MTV.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
Yeah, and that's a lot of that. That's where it
came from. That's where we're seeing it. It was. It
was totally it was totally a different vibe in the
and then when you discover the Internet, you start discovering
more of these like you know, off sheets, like watching
like bet it's fine because if you if you have
white entertainment TV, that wouldn't be allowed. But I wanted
to read this because this is a good quote, because

(36:12):
I I'm going to bring attention to this because I
were less than eight percent of the population, and there
is this subversive culture. So the identity of white children's
uh is attacked an effort to push them into other
non white cultures. When you have when you tell a
white child that having white pride is wrong, you essentially
rob them of their identity, so they search for a
new identity that's not white and the most influenced, the

(36:34):
influential thing, Jesus. When you tell a white child having
white pride is wrong, you essentially rob them of their identity,
so they search for another identity and one of the
most influential things. Then they see black culture, so they
latch onto that, or they may have liberal parents who
push them into transgenderism. All of it is part of
a Jewish anti white pride. So the promotion of the
generate black culture to trans to transgenderism itself. We need

(36:57):
to bring back white pride to save of America. And
I'm not saying like everyone should have pride in who
they are in all regard, but that is kind of
that actually is part of it is subverting the culture, right,
and like you see like places like someplace in Florida
or like Miami especially, and just people shaking their asses
in the middle of the street for like TikTok videos,

(37:19):
like all that stuff was meant to subvert us, like
that key KGB defector. Yes in Urinoff or whatever his
name is, kin I said earlier Inagata. I know, I
can't remember, but yesmin Yurinoff something like that, not urineof
that sounds hlarious, someone would know in the chat on Rubble,

(37:40):
but he talked about this how it's like mostly subverting
the culture. And I've played this his video on one
of the episodes that we've done, I think like the
Protocol episode, and he would he would mention these things
about the subvert Yeah, Uri Bezmanoff, I was like, just
try there. I knew Uncle Semi would be in there somewhere.

Speaker 4 (37:58):
Fornov, Yeah, I was like, something sounds Russian.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
And he would talk about like them subverting the culture
and like using it to like to have normal Americans
tack Americans and they don't even know how brainwashed they are.
And to some extent that's true, right, Like everyone thought
it was really cool this gangster rap and like wanting
to be hard. And we used to watch like when
YouTube first start blowing up, especially we're like maybe fifteen sixteen,
I hearn't being my buddy's basically watch hood to Hood

(38:24):
and it would just be filming like the ghettos around America,
and we used to think that was cool. And it
just makes me think now that I'm older and seeing
what this culture has devolved into, I think that it
was negatively impacted, especially the black community more than any
other community, because they like they thought it was cool

(38:46):
to be a gangster and to sell drugs because the
music they were listening to were telling them that. And
it wasn't always like that. It was more like, yo,
I'm hanging out with me and my friends. You know,
we're back at it again. It was very like simple,
you know, like it was especially if you listen like
too short and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (39:01):
Do you know the other thing that's a little bit.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
Everyone had a poster in the room.

Speaker 4 (39:05):
I feel like I still haven't the thing that's infuriating
about that as well, So like then this is going
to be a really weird analogy to kind of compare
it to. But like say, if you look at something
like professional wrestling, right there's still a lot of like
adult men, women whatever that like that shit would understand that,

(39:25):
you know, it's it's just entertainment. It's just like a
character or whatever. Like I don't think, and I think
there's very many people on planet art right now that's like,
oh my god, the Undertaker was really like a fucking
kick came from a grave and like all this shit.
So I don't think anybody believes anymore. And the thing
where with rap, I think and hip hop it started
to change and then, okay, I'm not saying there was

(39:47):
lots of people who were living that lifestyle for real
and like being who were being you know, who were
living those lifestyles that they were or making music about,
and yeah, pretty much, but like then you had say
someone like that you just had in that image there,

(40:08):
like who who's trying to like portray a thing of
like you know, of like drugs and violence and yeah,
and then like maybe they're not really living that lifestyle.
And I've heard like time and time again different artists
or whatever that make music about certain things and all

(40:28):
this shit that they're supposedly doing, only to find out
that they're not even doing that.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
So it's like, yeah, look, can you look up Doctor
Dre for me.

Speaker 4 (40:37):
I'm not saying it's better to be like Doctor.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
Dre easy cover where he's wearing his all of his stuff.

Speaker 4 (40:45):
Oh weird, I can't type anything.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
Weird. I remember the seeing the clip of ic T
saying fifty cent, where's the last real mainstream gangster from
the culture? Yeah, because fifty cent over exaggerates of the
stuff because I already got shot like three times and
then he's like got shot at nine times.

Speaker 4 (41:05):
It was on lad TV, like I was whack one hundred.
He was talking about they were going to set up
fifty like back in the day when they all had beef,
and he was like, we got we got worried he
was going to be in whatever place it was. So
he was like, we got like fifteen sixteen guys together
and we rock up to wherever whatever club he's going
to be at, and then instantly we walk in the

(41:26):
door and we realize, ah, this is not going to
work out in our favor. The dude had like eight
or ten Navy seals with like all like fully armed,
like body armor, everything, helmets and shit all with him,
and they were like that dude was like he seemed

(41:47):
to reckon that he like really did live the life
and he would be prepared to like have people shot
and ship. But like again, like you don't know, is
it all part of just like he is part of
the persona a marketing thing like to be like it is.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
There's a lot of a lot of that that is
part of the persona a lot of it. If you
want to bring up that doctor Dre, like doctor Dre
tried to act hard like he was from It wasn't
even from Compton. That's why always loved that that uh
when easy, you know, real motherfucking g's when because easy
he did sell drugs like he probably got shot at
He probably shot at people. He was one of the

(42:22):
only people at the beginning that was actually like real
and there's jm Aster jm Aster J and stuff like
he got shot I think too. There was a lot
of like tumultuous relationships that were birth because of hip
hop with gang rivals and you know, they say something
about themselves that you know, they'd scroll their name on
a wall and then somebody xes out that name and
then they go over to their neighborhood and it started

(42:43):
a lot of that, like those like kind of jungle
warfare feuds within like easy E Doctor dre Cover. I
think you'll find it. It's when he looks like I
was gonna I forgot to bring it up, but you
know it's just you you see this like cars, one

(43:04):
Man rock him, all of these like fundamental staples of
what hip hop was, and uh, you know a lot
of them were rapping about where they came from. Junkle wars, right,
That's what it was though. That's it was like like
essentially like hiding behind buildings. That's hilarious. I didn't even
realize I said that. But where's that? Yeah there, look

(43:26):
at click on that little those little stethoscope when he
was in his uh it was like junkle warfare though,
like the building scope. Yeah, yeah, yes, that's the one
where he's like you're wearing lipstick an eyeliner. And that
was like the back of his album cover after like
Doctor dre like tried to diss him and stuff like that,

(43:47):
and me and Billy talked about it. For all those
that don't know they've never heard the audio episode, me
and Billy did do easy in the conspiracy theories, uh,
and It's funny because at that time, I wasn't really
aware of this stuff, but in the the article like that,
yeah obituary. Yeah yeah, I used to have that album
I lost. Look at that real motherfucker g I lost

(44:11):
a lot of my albums. It's sad. I went to
a house party one day and it was with a
like we were like fifteen. It was a bunch of
older dudes and we got kicked out. Fighting started, and
I lost like my whole booklet of CDs. It's sad.

Speaker 4 (44:27):
I love that. It's like you remember the Dexter Wiggle.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
Yeah, because doctor jer was kind of a bitch and
he definitely sold himself out to the Jews and stuff.
We'll get to that. But like, it's so funny because
when me and Billy were talking about like the death
of Easy and the conspiracy theories surrounding him. In the
article I was reading, it brought up this idea where
it's like, well, these conspiracy theories might seem anti Semitic,

(44:53):
And it was talking about like Jerry Heller and like
this setup and how there was influential people that wanted
the death of Easy, And then you have Sugar Knight
saying like oh yeah, Like we went on Jimmy Kimmel
after years and years after Easy you was dead and
he was like, yeah, you don't go shoot somebody up nowadays,
you just stick a needle in their neck like some
easy shit. He said that on Jimmy Kimmel And then

(45:13):
you're like, oh, obviously he murdered Easy because Easy got AIDS.
But then his kids and wife didn't have it, and
like it's just an interesting, weird conspiracy, and he died
very rapidly. It wasn't when they had medicine back then,
not not what they have today, but they did have
people could live off of these pharmaceutical drugs, much like
the transgender agenda. But you know what I mean. So
there's he literally said that, and it's like, why do

(45:35):
you say that because he's literally freudy and.

Speaker 4 (45:37):
Slip is a spooky character.

Speaker 3 (45:39):
Oh yes, we can do a whole episod about him
by Vegian.

Speaker 4 (45:42):
Yes, he's a spooky guy.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
Holding vanilla ice over like the balcony is crazy.

Speaker 4 (45:48):
It's like like the amount of stories that like have
been out there surrounding him or involved in his name
in some way, it is quite fucking spooky that.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
He ran over one of his friends with his car.
As far as I know, it's just a good friend.

Speaker 4 (46:04):
This is wild though, to be like, it's one thing
to be reckless, right and have money and get other
people to do shit, but it's also even crazier to
be reckless get other people to do shit, but also
get involved in it yourself.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
Yeah, it's crazy. And then obviously we have the P
Diddy stuff. I've heard some wild things.

Speaker 4 (46:23):
It's just really really heating up lately.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
Yeah, dude, I heard things about it was made and
how they found like all this weird stuff in the garbage,
like I burnt picture of a chick that was missing,
and then like.

Speaker 4 (46:35):
It was the thing I seen some some TikTok yesterday
or somewhere going P Diddy did what with the mac
and cheese?

Speaker 3 (46:42):
Oh my god. I just feel like it's kind of
a lot of it is for show. It might be
like theater for people, but supposed to be. His maid
came out and said some stuff of stuff she found
the trash, like just weird paraphernalia probably, and and then
like and then he said, like a picture of a
missing girl. Uh, it's crazy.

Speaker 4 (47:03):
He's a weird motherfucker. Girdle. He's a weird weird dude.
That audio is it supposed to be him and make
mill or whatever.

Speaker 3 (47:10):
Oh when he slaps his cheeks together. Oh yeah, dude,
we played that probably that don't know, go check out
our Diddy episode because that.

Speaker 4 (47:17):
Is if that's if that's like an actual thing about
like every time I hear that like a TikTok vide
or whatever, my skin just like.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
Dude, we called that. We called that stuff out and
talked about it for like almost like probably three hours
some way before when it just started like coming out
like this gangster in this al capone dress, proper plight
to women, loves his mother will actually kill you. And
then it's like, d bank, it's just some like doing it,
and they all like you know, with these gang rivalries
killing each other over like cred and stuff like that,

(47:45):
like you have all these it it. You know, it
seemed cool in the outside of people that weren't involved
with it, but like for everybody else, a lot of
these people were not doing any gangster shit. They were
just rapping about it because the record labels were telling
them to. And then you had real life violence out
in the world because of their influence influence over people.

Speaker 4 (48:07):
It's it's really dumb as well, because there's a lot
of like good iartists out there who've been lost true
like just dumb shit that doesn't mean any Yeah, yeah,
that's true. I'm like, was that all work dying for? Really?
Like you're kind of going.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
Yeah, like, well, I have an episode about Big L
that we'll get into, and he died because of mistaken
identity Big Pun.

Speaker 4 (48:26):
Yeah, like all of those days and you're there going
like like.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
Yeah, proof got shot up like that messed up eminem dude,
Like he got shot up in the middle, like just
in front of it, like a nightclub or whatever. Big
Pun was six hundred pounds when he died, six hundred pounds.
And the fact that he could like in the middle
of little literally dilittle did he know that he did
itly or like and he's like and you could hear
him in like especially that one. You can hear him

(48:54):
breathing like good when he's like wrapping and how like
big of an x inhale he had to Yeah, yeah,
such a one and he could wrap pretty fast. N
a talk and then Big L. But o dB always
was one of my favorites because he was just like
buck while he didn't give a ship dude, and he
died of alcoholism. He had thirteen.

Speaker 4 (49:12):
Crazy well you could just have I was like, I
don't think this is all like this. You don't seem
like a character. You seem like you're psychotical.

Speaker 3 (49:18):
No, he is. He was crazy as hell, dude. That's
why they liked him. And like he did. There's that one.
I used to watch this stuff all the time, you know,
when I was young, and YouTube first kind of popped off.
Even if you can maybe see if you can bring
it up quick. But like when he's drunk freestyling, it's
like he's like just messed up rambling on it's actually
it's actually pretty funny.

Speaker 4 (49:39):
This is hilarious. If the first picture and your type
his name into Google, the first picture that comes up
is fucking hilarious.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
That's when he was almost dead. That was like, yeah,
his teeth.

Speaker 4 (49:51):
Were all out. Oh you choose that photo?

Speaker 3 (49:56):
Yeah, classic. See if you can just like look up
a drunk freestyle. Well, a lot of this stuff has
to do with what we're talking about. Like I knew
we would get into some kind of rants about this
because it is was such a heavy influence, you know
about it the clip of ODB and Methad band talking
about who runs everything in Methomaists and they're looking like
a bitch. Did Odb mention the Jews because that would

(50:18):
be actually very funny because like for everyone that doesn't
know what we're gonna get into some of the conspiracy
aspect of it, and all of the record labels, almost
all of them were controlled and on by Jewish people
who were pushing this subversive culture onto the black communities
to like get people to gang fight, and then these
fake gangsters that you know, may have grown up in
poverty and went through some stuff. But really, like even

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Biggie Smalls when people later, like when they talk would
talk about of friends in his neighborhood, it was like
he was never like that, Like he he even when
he like was gonna sell cracky. I think there's a
story where he was gonna sell crack to a pregnant
woman and he didn't do it or something like that,
or maybe that's two Pac camera one of them. Like,
but I there was a guy that he grew up

(50:59):
on his block and he was like he was such
a nice kid.

Speaker 4 (51:02):
Like them got fucked in that situation.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
Oh yeah, if there we'll have a we're not have
an episode about Tupac fake and his death. That'd be interesting.

Speaker 4 (51:10):
I don't know which one of these I think.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
He said the basis, I don't. Yeah, he's like, it's
the ge Oh yeah, that one right there, three down, sure, yeah,
just insurance his plays for fun back in the hours
of Young TV, Rep Man, Dirty fast and right there
still part of the wood Tang clan.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
Ain't nothing changed.

Speaker 4 (51:33):
Drunk it should being ham the drunken massive style.

Speaker 6 (51:35):
So nobody can never touch me, Nobody can never feel me,
nor say that he loves Yes, she loves me.

Speaker 4 (51:42):
She's a blessing of this turn and he gets in
the role.

Speaker 7 (51:45):
He with some lyrics.

Speaker 4 (51:48):
She sometimes when the little rings gotta come out, make
a lead.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
You want to see the shower thoughts for your maid
and handcutches playing he never wore other nay until the holy.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
Ghost text, im tucking me the neighborhood.

Speaker 7 (52:03):
Don't put stuff obviously lead you no money by now.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
Those stupid bodies, old fools to tail unique one.

Speaker 4 (52:10):
I was elected turn the couple.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
You get thanked in and I'll break them to Basillpool,
but it's fredl In Fletch.

Speaker 4 (52:23):
Fetched.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
We're coming to the Hegstall.

Speaker 4 (52:29):
Now he can go.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
All night tell you we gotta go through a man video.
He can go all night yammering like I love ob
He's going somehow with the beat, but he's just like
like he's so messed up.

Speaker 4 (52:41):
It was just like, yeah, no worry, you're so good.
We need to stuff, you know.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
And now he's like trying to keep him on track,
like he's just saying ship like because he used to
literally like drink like a ton. He was always drunk. Uh.
And it's just funny watch some of those old freestyles
because he was just like and he like even just
like murmur words right, the big birth of the Mumble rap.

Speaker 4 (53:04):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
You know, it's just hilarious. I've always always liked Odie
being in some of these characters because that's what they
kind of were a lot of times with these characters
in the hip hop scene.

Speaker 4 (53:13):
I used to have a really cool shirt and it
was was it a picture of him? And I don't
know if it was it a was it him on
a driver's license or was his fucking after goot arrested
or something was like his police report or something like that.
Oh yeah, yeah, ye shot and ship, Oh dude. I
And I don't know where that shirt I wore that

(53:36):
T shirt like that ship was like yellow under the
arm pits for me learning it all the time.

Speaker 3 (53:42):
I just found I don't know who this guy is,
but I just found this funny. Actually that might be
that looks like ghost Face Killer, but I don't know
if it's just like younger, but that's probably from a
Woo Tang picture. But then obviously you got like you know,
like this birth of hip hop through like the anti know,
cops beating people in the streets and all that stuff,

(54:04):
and you had the La riots like you know, and
it was it was trying to build bring the black
community together, you know. Yeah, but I have that that album,
It's crazy. Drunken Master was so funny, but like you know,
and I think it got subverted in many different ways, right,

(54:25):
And we'll talk about it. But like even Eve talked about,
you know, the singer Eve, she was very close with
Biggie Smalls. We'll talk about how they created gangster rap
to essentially destroy black communities, which it was causing violence,
like like especially the when I eventually want to talk
about this with the Tupac and Biggie feud, like that

(54:45):
was a huge thing East Coast versus West Coast. There's
literally real gangsters dying over that shit of just like
a perceived persona, because why don't get into Tupac. I'm
gonna expose that. It's sad. But I think he was
kind of gay and fake and like it's like, you know, one,
did you see him in videos when he's like seventeen
eighteen and he's like talking like this and very feminine,
and then all of a sudden, yeah, and all of

(55:07):
a sudden he's like this, you know, thug life, And
he wasn't a gangster like all of his people. Yeah,
And all the people that were around him said that
he was like a nice guy that cared for people.
But you would get different versions of him, like the
revolutionary Tupacaty, you get like the gangster Tupacaca. And he
went to acting school. He was an actor. He was

(55:28):
in movies. He was I think I always.

Speaker 4 (55:31):
Liked but if he didn't know any of us, he
was very believable. Though. I remember he made like a
huge impression on me as a kid from the point
of view, and it's a lot of people. Yeah, a
lot of people yoused to Gie me shit thought, but like,
oh Biggie was better. You know, I don't know why
you like. I don't know why you prefer him. Oh yeah,

(55:54):
it's so.

Speaker 3 (55:54):
Gay being fake gay was a hard pilled as well.
But the videos, and he was a teen are gay
as fuck y that's true.

Speaker 4 (56:01):
But like I dude, I remember like trying to like
adapt that personality and being a super young kid who
hadn't a clue, Like I wasn't going to fight, and
I wasn't tough. I wasn't anywhere close to even being
anything like even a fraction of somebody like that. But
in my head, I used to listen to his music
and like I'd be like in my room, like dressed

(56:21):
like him, and I'm like, wow, I'm such a fun
I know.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
And that's man. We were losing when we saw eight
mile at ten, right, I remember, like this is the
goofiest shit ever. Like me, we were always creative. We
were filming everything. That's where like the Tommy Thompson Show
came from, is doing like jackass stunts. I was had
a camera with me. We always started off making stupid skits,
and we were very young and doing dumb stuff. I
always had this creative itch in me, and I went
with my I think my buddy Ryan and these two

(56:46):
other chicks with Austin, So I think there's a four
or five of us, and we all dressed up. Ryan
had a huge green afro wig and we're like we
dressed up in like costumes, costumes and went and saw
a rated R movie. I remember when like he fucks
Britney Murphy, another conspiracy theory, and he like Mom was like,
mom was trying to close all of our eyes. But
I remember coming out and then me and Austin. I

(57:06):
remember standing my dad's workout bench and we're like in
the music the moment you won't It's never like just
like acting.

Speaker 4 (57:13):
Stuff, just like fucking and like, you know, as I
started to get a little bit older, I was like,
if I was going to be anyone from something like
it might be fucking cheddar Bob.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
I know, it's so funny, and some of them came
from really like hard communities. Man, Yeah, cheddar Bob shoots
himself and then Dick with his own gun. So you
want to start getting into your actually getting this episode
really started getting into the conspiracies that you found. I
send you an article, but also I would like to
hear the chatchybt ones if it does go into.

Speaker 4 (57:38):
Yeah, yeah we can do hold on, let me just
go back. Interesting. So these are all like super all
run through these like super quick because somebod these will
be potential probably big episodes and stuff like or so.

Speaker 3 (57:51):
Isn't this weird? Okay? So like look at Diddy with
his tongue out of his mouth. The other one's fake,
but this one's real.

Speaker 4 (57:59):
So which one's fake?

Speaker 3 (58:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (58:00):
Cross?

Speaker 3 (58:00):
Yeah? Rick Ross? What is real? The jay Z was
definitely fake, but jay Z is involved and has implications
well maybe a bunch of talking about that stuff. But
like they would like kiss each other and stuff like that,
like hip hop got super gay and like Rick Ross,
like Rick Ross is a CEO. Dude, he was a
correuction officer.

Speaker 4 (58:19):
Yeah, it's h larious when that came out. Didn't fucking
weren't him in fifty beef? And and didn't he buy
you Rick Ross's Masters? And he was like you dumb
fat fuck and all that something like that. I can't
remember exactly, but it was something like that, but you're
even a ship like like and again this is gonna

(58:40):
be like the same, really faggy and just sad. But
like I was a big fan of Lil Wayne for
a time period.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
Oh yeah, I saw resign Man. I was like for
a couple of years.

Speaker 4 (58:48):
Yeah like that. I mean like I was like I
was fucking bald deep. And then that ship came out
about him and bard Man kissing, and like Bardman's like,
oh yeah, but he's like my adopted son.

Speaker 3 (58:58):
Like I had the picture. Can you bring it up?

Speaker 4 (59:00):
And I'm like, well, are you kissing your kids on
the mount?

Speaker 3 (59:03):
I don't have I did add it.

Speaker 4 (59:06):
Maybe I didn't add it though, but.

Speaker 3 (59:09):
Because I remember when that came out and everyone was
like what the fuck? Why is little Wyne kissing Birdman?
And and even like come on, this is some of
the old school hip hop. Okay, look in the corner
at those dudes wearing like that Rick James type of
outfit with like you know, the shirt off and like
like looking like some BDSM ship, Like what is that?

(59:30):
Rock Kim was always in kars One. Dude, karas One
has some really good like he he spoke about this
Illuminati and how they were taking control. As soon as
he started to understand what was going on. I think
that they were like, oh, we can't promote Karris Why anymore.
He is a big influence on on hip hop. Yeah,
look at that. Why Why? Like I remember when that

(59:50):
first came out and that was a long time ago.
Full screen that and then they're just like, can you
zoom in find one that? Okay, find one then, because
if you see the guy in the background, he's kind
of like, so weird. Actually, just my guys staring in

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the background, why is that happening? And it's subverted.

Speaker 4 (01:00:18):
That's one of those things where like if you're one
of those dudes there, even if you're like gay as ship,
you have to be like, oh so cool. Yeah, I
love kissing guys.

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
So cool man, that's so crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:00:30):
And he says in that interview right there, I'm not
sure where that was some fucking show anyway. I actually
only watched this last night and he's talking about it,
and he basically says that like that wasn't like one
off thing. He was like, well, kiss I don't kiss.

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
Imagine I kiss Billy every time he came over, Like
that's the game.

Speaker 4 (01:00:53):
So his his point was that don't you kiss your kids?
And he's like, my son, So that's why. Okay, somebody's
like we're in the rap game. So every night I leave,
I might never see him again.

Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
Oh my god, that is the gay shit ever. It's
like that mac where it's like a gangsters doing ecstasy
at the bar and Macleth's like, I kill for you, bro,
would you kill for me? And they're like, you know,
two bros are on ecstasy and it's like a like
a sex drug and then you're like, would you kill
for me? Many like it like really close. It's like
that's like some weird shit, dude, and the thing is

(01:01:29):
too right, hug your friend. Me and Billy talked about this.
We're talking about like the Dalai Lama kissing that kiddle
lips and he's like, if it's family, it's okay. I'm like,
you're a grown man, you're gonna kiss your mother and
he's like yeah, man, like on the cheek and I'm
like on the lips though, and he's like, no, that's
kind of weird. He's like, it'll only be weird if
you got hard. Though. It's like then it becomes really weird,
you know, your mom kisses your on the lips.

Speaker 4 (01:01:50):
It just gets really weird for me. Like I couldn't
picture like I have an early eleven year old son. Yeah,
I couldn't picture like collecting him from school or bringing
him to school. I mean, no, someone kiss me.

Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
Yeah, that's weird.

Speaker 4 (01:02:02):
Man, Like I swear to God, dude, like go and
try myself off a bridge.

Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
It's like a it's a man thing not to do that.
And obviously like Kid Cuddy wearing a dress doing the
humiliation ritual. I think one of the last real like
gangster rappers, like like actual like said and believed what
he What he said was DMX man. DMX was pretty
hardcore dude, and like he called out the the Homo
thugs and all that ship way before anybody else did

(01:02:28):
like shake my hands like like whatever that line is
that shake my hand like a man or whatever. But
I'm not gonna shake your hand because you're like gay.
And he was like calling that like whole like degenerate
hip hop culture out because he was Christian, right, and
you know, all these songs about like the Lord and
stuff like that, like and you know walk whatever that
Lord Lord might give me a sign or whatever. Walk

(01:02:50):
with me one he loved Jesus right, pimp and ain't
easy unless you get it, unless you got a strong
it's my strong hand.

Speaker 4 (01:02:59):
Oh my god, I can't wait for Scary Movie six
next year.

Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
I know better pretty good though. Yeah, so let's get
break down some of these conspiracy theories because I could
literally do a whole rant about this for hours.

Speaker 4 (01:03:12):
Yes, so we'll just we'll go truly, it's like super quick.
I love that one. That's my favorite age. So Tupac
is still alive. So the theory whole episode about that. Okay,
right on? The Illuminati controls the music industry, well, everybody
can continue, Yes, theory Rappers like jay Z, Beyonce, Kenya,

(01:03:34):
Western others are part of a secret elite group with
the Illuminati using symbolism and influence to control minds. Symbols, pyramids,
all seeing eye, Horn's secret hand gestures, et cetera. Status
largely speculative, though many artists have leaned into the imagery,
either seriously or ironically.

Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
Yeah, they literally jay Z literally throws it the symbol
all the time. And it's not like it's on purpose.

Speaker 4 (01:03:59):
Like it's something of this is controversial, but I don't
like jay Z.

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
I've never liked jay Z. It's so funny. It always
makes me laugh how much we actually do have in
common and how there's not many opinions that we don't
agree on. It's like it's like you have the same
brain as mine and experience a lot of the same
things as me, but you're in another part of the world.

Speaker 4 (01:04:20):
Like because even something like that, I would say it
to people, Oh, I don't like jay Z, and they're like, oh, man,
jay Z.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
He's like I never liked him. I had a buddy
that was super indome.

Speaker 4 (01:04:31):
And I just didn't get it. And he always struck me,
even as like a kid growing up and stuff. He
always struck me as like, oh, that'd be like if
you tried to be a gangster rapper.

Speaker 3 (01:04:41):
Yeah yeah, he well, and like we were like, oh,
he's so like, you know, he's got the uh Like
the that Blueprint album, everyone's like, it's so dope. I
literally never like jay Z. The only songs I can
name is like It's a Hard Knock Life and ninety
nine Problems. I never listened to him, never liked him.
And it's just funny, like it's.

Speaker 4 (01:04:58):
Like I knew you were in Gonna when Nas went
scarch Dart on him with that song ether.

Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
Oh yeah, that was all some of those hip hop disses,
dude were so good.

Speaker 4 (01:05:08):
Yep, he like that is literally scarch Dart. I wish
we could listen to that song on the show because
it with the lyrics because it's fucking unbelievably.

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
Even like hit him up and these kind of beef beefs,
like the game in fifty cent the game, oh yeah,
is like he he calls a lot of the stuff
that's going on, but also he's kind of kind of
gay man. He shows his dick off all the time,
and I unfollow him because he was just constantly posting
like him of like him grabbing his junk and stuff,

(01:05:38):
and I'm like, I follow you because I'm a fan
of your music now because I want to see you
like impress the ladies or whatever, because he he used
to be a stripper, which is kind of gay. But
like his beef with fifty set was actually pretty wild
because like the diss is that the game did against
fifty were actually really good and thought out, and he
called him out on like all the he had his receiver.

Speaker 4 (01:05:57):
He had that ship where it was like he had
that g you not like, gee you not?

Speaker 3 (01:06:02):
Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:06:04):
I actually went to a music festival in two thousand
and nine, I think you're twenty ten, and there was
all these different like huge I'm talking about like huge artists,
all sorts of bands, all sorts of singers and shit
like that. But I specifically went to see the game,
and like, I spent so much money, spent the entire
weekend in the rain, because remember I'm in fucking Ireland,

(01:06:26):
so it's not like this tropical right, and miserable just
to see him get there. I get right up to
the barrier, like I'm front and center, and I'm like,
I can't believe I've managed to make it like right here,
and nobody's going to tear me away from his barrier.
I'm staying here for the full gig. Some dude walks
out like five minutes before set and he's like, oh, yeah, canceled,

(01:06:46):
even he's not even in the country, and I was
like what. So it turns out that he was like
doing shows in Spain or something, and he was like, oh,
I got a bad flu, so I'm not I can't fly.
And it's hilarious. Right, because after I remember going, I
will never I will never ever ever go see you
every That's it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
You got to flu. You're just to perform, be a man.

Speaker 4 (01:07:04):
Only recently he was doing a European tour again, right,
and he's doing all the old kind of stuff from
that time period, and that's all the ship that people
want to hear. And I see, like it's doing the
rounds and it's on TikTok. He's in like Paris, and
he's in different places and whatever, and he's coming to Dublin.
So what happens the day of the gig? He fucking

(01:07:25):
cancels the schedules. He's like, yeah, I got what did
he say? I got a flu? My voice is gone.
I can't perform.

Speaker 3 (01:07:32):
But like he could probably have made enough money. I
don't care anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:07:36):
And I think they go to places, you know, like
Paris and Ibeta and all those places, and like you know,
it's like really nice weather and fancy and whatever, and
they probably just get fucked up and they're like, why
why am I even gonna bother?

Speaker 3 (01:07:49):
I'm on vacation now, and a lot of why you're
like letting down your fans. And I feel like people
like that are pieces of shit. I feel like he's
probably a really big piece of shit in life. And
he wasn't always that guy. Remember listening to his first album,
It is not that great. He got better as he went.
But I was a big fan of the game, like
I I mean, I was. I was. I admit my faults.
I was a big loser. I dressed up like a

(01:08:10):
blood when I was like fifteen, and I remember, like
I've told the story before, but like I was emo.
My friends laughed at me. I remember when I went
to high school and I wore like entire blood and
khaki outfit, and my cousin from trial was like, I
would get you killed probably.

Speaker 6 (01:08:23):
And uh.

Speaker 3 (01:08:23):
I remember all of them laughed their asses off, and
I was like, didn't care. I used to wear a
bandan is I wore a do rag one. I didn't care.
I was like, whatever, you can all hate me, you know,
so we have obviously jay Z and the Illuminati. I
never cared what people thought about me. As you can tell,
it doesn't bother me. If someone that I don't know,
or even someone personally, I know, if you don't like me,

(01:08:45):
that's cool. It doesn't really affect me. I don't have to.
Like everyone is so polarized all the things that are
going on. Uh, they'll get like literally triggered and cry
and freak out over like the smallest little thing over
someone saying like trans writes don't matter, like you know
what I mean, anything like that. Anything. You can literally
say the sky is blue and there'll be someone out

(01:09:06):
there like, no, it's not. It's like turquoise, you know,
like some color blind guys like it's actually red.

Speaker 4 (01:09:15):
I'm just looking here at the lyrics for that Ether this.
I need to bring these up for a second because
these are fucking hilarious.

Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
Why does Tupac look so weird in that top picture?
I remember like watching Juice for the first time, you know,
like that was a good movie because it showed like
kind of the black like community and how like you
know you most of everyone was just kind of chill
and trying to survive, and then the one guy's like crazy,
I don't think it show Yeah, what's up? And words

(01:09:44):
fuck you with your soul? Like ether, brace yourself for
the main event, patiently waiting I can aids test. What's
the result? Oh yeah, that's go crazy now? As was
wild back in the day. There's a couple of what's
that other song? He like goes deep man.

Speaker 4 (01:09:59):
Oh yea, guys on there that this gayzy and cocka
fella records for the beef.

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
Started cocking up my cocking my weapon and slowly loading
up the AMMO to explode it exploited on a camel.
That's a weird ram and as soldiers I can handle.
That's so funny.

Speaker 4 (01:10:15):
First biggiees you man. Then you got the nerve to
say you're better than big dick sucking lips. Yea, there's
another one though, so funny.

Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
He's like, were you abused as a child? Scared to smile?
They call you ugly while life is hard, hug me,
don't reject so funny.

Speaker 4 (01:10:37):
Uh, I'll still whip your ass. You're tirty six in
the karate class, you tybow hole.

Speaker 3 (01:10:45):
You're trying to get broccoli. I said, broccoli trying to
get broccoli?

Speaker 4 (01:10:52):
Dummy is Dame Diddy Dame.

Speaker 3 (01:10:54):
Yeah, it's hilarious.

Speaker 4 (01:10:56):
Oh I get it, you biggie. And he's Puffy Rockefella
died of aides. That was the end of his chapter.
And that's the guy you all chose to name your
company after.

Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
That's hilarious.

Speaker 4 (01:11:05):
Put it together, irack holes, y'all, rock fellas.

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
That's fun. He's literally calling j which is probably true.
I think that isn't that true that he named it
after a guy that dieby, which is like, why did
he get that then? Because everyone associated that with the
gay community.

Speaker 4 (01:11:19):
Put it together, irock holes, y'all, rock fellas. And now
you're trying to take my spotfellas. Put you in a
dry spot, fellaws in a pine box with nine shots
and my blackfellows.

Speaker 3 (01:11:29):
That's sick.

Speaker 4 (01:11:31):
What you think looks no, almost as having more whiskers
like that. He actually went scars started there just some
like look at some of this stuff here towards the
end where he's like, Eminem murders you on your own shit,
you're a dick riding faggot. The attention he's.

Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
Doesn't even care. That's so funny, Like and like, look
at what jay Z looked like to act echidn right,
bring me some more conspiracy theories. My hole.

Speaker 4 (01:12:04):
Just gonna okay, let's see, so we're skipping and hing
to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
Yeah, dude, where did chat chipts say about the Jays?

Speaker 4 (01:12:18):
I ain't gonna get it, No, one second, we have
Gucci Maine was cloned.

Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
Oh yeah, he he came out of jail a totally
different person, you know. I remember there was a radio
station near me. It's like so gay. Now they just
play like literally like the same repeated music over and
over again. But when it starters, it was like promoting
hip hop. I remember, like, you know, like the eleven
or Midnight they played like Gucci mana Gucci Maine as
you say, because you say Gucci man like it's Maine,

(01:12:44):
you gotta say like my main. And I remember the
first time it was funny because when me and my
friends watched it, it was like we liked it, but
it was almost comical, like when he's like keys in
the Kitchen or whatever that song is the kitchen that
he does, and like he was just hanging out in
his backyard and we all we thought it was cool.
But goofy like me and my buddy would make fun

(01:13:05):
of Gucci Mane while we listened to his music, you know,
and there's better stuff than others. I remember my one
buddy really liked who's the guy who was beefing with?

Speaker 1 (01:13:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:13:18):
Yeah, uh young Jeezy. I was like ay Con and
young Jeezy.

Speaker 4 (01:13:26):
Uh yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not gonna lie right. I
used to love Gucci Mane so much before before the
jail and stuff, but he was like all fat and
like scary looking with the.

Speaker 3 (01:13:39):
Bart Simpson Shane and then like that was young Geezy
put a hit out on the Bart Simpson Shane and
like recording I can't remember because we could cover this,
but I thought I remember hearing that, like they sent
like people thugs went after Gucci Mane and he like
flipped the table and shot like them all, and which
is so crazy. He like there could he put it
like a fifty thousand dollars bond on like his chain

(01:14:01):
like a hit and then uh, they went in and
he like flipped the table and shot a bunch of them,
and I was like, I know that's true. I can't
remember hearing Gucci Mane was, at least from the outside,
seemed like someone who was a real thug that didn't
really care and had no concept of what the fuck
he was doing with his life.

Speaker 4 (01:14:20):
Yeah, like supposedly he was. From all the stuff I
had read, he was literally like for probably for worse,
but like psychotic like you said, where he's like, oh,
I'm not like, I don't care about like fame or
money or ship or what happens running. I'm just I'm
like doing this thing. Remember you got like the ice
cream coln tattooed on his face and ship Like he's
just like I don't give a fuck, and he was
all fat and stuff. It's so good, dude, he had

(01:14:42):
that song like it's totally different. Now, Oh yeah, he different.
I think crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:14:49):
I think the Jay's got him. I was gonna I'm
gonna start being like, oh and Benjamin just call him
the Jays and that it's finny because my own Benjamin
talks about blacks. He calls him the Bees. It looks
like a different person. It isn't. That wasn't the same guy.
If you look at him.

Speaker 4 (01:15:04):
There type in Gucci Mane old pictures and there's like
side by side.

Speaker 3 (01:15:12):
Yeah, just it's I don't I don't know. It's a
little weird. Yeah, like he's like wonder.

Speaker 4 (01:15:19):
Where he's sitting with his like belly where he's like
smoking a joint on the top, like, yeah, across another
two weird there's another one there. Yeah, look at that. Well,
that was not the same person.

Speaker 3 (01:15:33):
I don't even think it is. I think it's possible
that he could have been cloned. Man, there was that
weird video I think of like I think it was
Tied Doll. I have I have some of these albums still. Literally,
I have a big binder of my old albums. I
still have three Gucci Maine albums because I used to
buy any CD that I saw that I kind of liked.

Speaker 4 (01:15:50):
Dude. I used to love him so much, so it's just.

Speaker 3 (01:15:53):
Just like a character. He was literally like a character.
That's why a lot of people paying attention to him.
It's like a riff raft, same type of ship. I
was never really in a riff raft, but that's people
liked him because he was like a character. But there
was like theories about like Tig. I think he's Ti
Dollar Signs or Tiger. He was doing it live on
Instagram and then like he's like this is my clone
or whatever, and people filmed it and a guy came
out that looked exactly like him, and they were showing

(01:16:15):
how their tattoos matched. So it's almost like a synthetic
carbon copy of the person. Because they will literally like
if I got it done, it would like graft your skin.
So all your tattoos would be the same and stuff
like that. There's some weird theories about that because I've
seen that Instagram video and if it's faked, like it
has all the comments coming up of like people being
like what the fuck because somebody screenshoted it and they
look identical. It's either Tiger or Tie Dollar signs one

(01:16:37):
of those characters. And then you have like there's a
there's a couple of really gay rappers like Young Thug.
I heard stuff about him.

Speaker 4 (01:16:45):
Yeah, he's a bit frudely, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:16:48):
Yeah, so let's let's get into another one.

Speaker 4 (01:16:50):
Yeah. So that yeah, that like that's like you said
he went, did the prison came out? Didn't seem like
the Sam Parson. Let's see Drake tied to industry manipulation.
The theory Drake was industry planted and heavily protected, marketed
to become a global icunt, possibly at the expense of

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other artists such as X due to the fire accusations
from other rappers, ghost writing scandals, and beefs whip rappers
like Meek Miller and pusha Tea especially of course, while
there is no concrete evidence, but fans have constantly debated
the authenticity of this conspiracy.

Speaker 3 (01:17:30):
So there's someone like Mark Dice. I'd love to get
Mark Dice in the show at some point. I read
his book about the Illuminati. Actually like Mark Dice. I
don't know what people out their's opinion actually hasn't been
but I liked him. I've read it. I had his book.
I gave it to someone, which is sex. I don't
have it anymore. But his Illuminati book was actually fairly good.
But reading out the college years and years and years ago,
I was pretty young, and I watched some of his
videos recently, and he's bringing up like the culture stuff

(01:17:52):
that's going on with like the attack on white people
and all that stuff. And it's interesting because he talked
about like this way back in the day, like I'm
when I was watching Mark Dice like twenty or something
like that, nineteen, and he talked about like the Homo
Alista Crowley magic shit and how like because he brought
a birdman and Little Wayne kissing and all that stuff,

(01:18:14):
and he said, like Drake and like Lil Wayne would
like have sex with each other and invoke this like
Crowley magic and stuff like that of like the Satanic
butt sex rituals, you know, you know what I mean. Yeah,
so like and you think about it, that could be
part of it, and like you know, you got like, uh,

(01:18:34):
what's his name? Kid Cutty in the dress? Like that's
all humiliation rituals and they're like ever so many people
did that, like even Kirk Cobain did. It's like, I
think it's.

Speaker 4 (01:18:42):
Awesome that kid caught the thing because wasn't he seeing Cassie? Yes,
and the whole thing with him and Diddy and Cassie
and stuff, and Cassie was like dating him and Diddy
found out and then all of a sudden he starts
dressing like dress.

Speaker 3 (01:18:54):
What the fuck is this?

Speaker 6 (01:18:56):
Man?

Speaker 3 (01:18:56):
Like this is not edgy, you're a homo? Like that's
so weird, Like why you wearing a wedding dress?

Speaker 4 (01:19:03):
That just makes my skin Like I actually really.

Speaker 3 (01:19:06):
Like Kit Cutty when you first came out, Like what
happened to that?

Speaker 4 (01:19:08):
I saw him live?

Speaker 3 (01:19:10):
How can I? I was like kind of zooming in
like what you saw a kid Cutti live? That's pretty cool?
Like what happened? Man? I never knew he wore that
wedding dress. That is like the he's wearing like I
wore eyeliner when I was like, you know, emo, when
I was twelve, I wasn't a grown man wearing a
wedding dress and island that is so weird. I forgot
that he did that wedding dress. Shit, oh it's just cool,

(01:19:32):
like and people are like, well the Scottish were killed.
I'm like, it's so fucking different. Is not the same thing?
So weird? Strange he identifies as they them.

Speaker 4 (01:19:44):
Yeah, that's like that thing. I don't know if you're
talking about this before, but Sam Smith was interviewed on that.
Oh yeah, he was on was g Graham Norton in
the UK and Graham Norton's notoriously eats an Irish like comedian. Yeah,
guy thing, he's gay like, so it's not like it
was any sort of weird gay thing about it. But

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they were like they asked him something. They were like, oh,
we hear you like fishing in your spare time or
something like that, or like a hobby or whatever. They
ask him like what do you like to do when
you're not performing and stuff, and they're like, we hear
you like to fish and he was like, yeah, I doing,
or like is there any chance of us seeing you?

Speaker 3 (01:20:20):
Like?

Speaker 4 (01:20:21):
You know, taking up a when you retire from music
or start to wind down fishing. Yeah, like this like
you know, kind of just as like some fucking quirky
joke or question. They were like, you know, you think
you'll take it up more like become a fisherman. And
he goes, no, I definitely won't become a fisherman. And
he goes, why you don't like fishing that much? And
he goes, no, no, no, because I'll become a fisher

(01:20:42):
them fish or what fisher them? Not a fisherman.

Speaker 3 (01:20:49):
Oh wow, so dumb, so stupid.

Speaker 4 (01:20:52):
Literally like my eyes I had to have surgery to
have my eyes removed. Them back in my head, I
was like, what are.

Speaker 3 (01:20:57):
You doing flirty fishing? Like the God Children of God
cult where he's like they're all you know at flirty
fisher will get mad at some point, I.

Speaker 4 (01:21:05):
Wanted because we shouldn't be saying fisher men because that's exclusive.

Speaker 3 (01:21:09):
Subversion Jewish, Like that's literally it's all that stuff is subversion.
It's about subverting the culture into degeneracy because they want
everyone to be a degenerate, so they will look at
them where it's like it's okay that you're like you know,
married to a child and you know, like all breaking
their hymen at fucking four like a disgusting ship that

(01:21:30):
is all in the Talmud. I see a video today
called Babylonian so like people are known.

Speaker 4 (01:21:36):
I mean I think it was on Twitter because I
think that's probably the only place that would be allowed.
But it was like a girl was after being sold
by her family to one of those fucking Indian like
dirty mongol oh yeah yeah, and she like was like
protesting the wedding or whatever getting married, and the guy
who bought her was like he went into the other

(01:21:58):
room and all film and draw like sh blah blah
blah blah, and like he gets a fucking ak forty seven, right,
and he's going to shoot her because she won't like
she's like given too much trouble.

Speaker 3 (01:22:08):
And it's his cousin and.

Speaker 4 (01:22:11):
There's like you can see the translations and stuff, and
his friends and her friends and they're pleading with him,
and you know what they tell him. They tell him
that no, no, no, don't kill her. And at first
I was like, oh, they're trying to like save her
from like a lunatic. And one of the dudes goes, no, no, no, no,
don't kill her. Don't kill her, don't shoot her. Show
the real power of a man by a wording.

Speaker 3 (01:22:33):
Her, of course. Yeah. Cool. Yeah, that's when you come
from a culture in countries that that's normal. Isn't it
gonna be fun when they are flooded into your country.

Speaker 4 (01:22:43):
Like we we at least it this this country is
just like we've we've led.

Speaker 3 (01:22:47):
In eight hundred and seventeen thousand people in four months,
almost a million people in four months.

Speaker 4 (01:22:53):
You know what's thereiou is we have this new thing
now where our like national news thing that's part of
the state body. They like to do this thing where
they have these little segments where they try and make
it seem like the government is like on our side.

Speaker 3 (01:23:11):
Yeah, of course.

Speaker 4 (01:23:11):
And today I was looking at the news a couple
of hours ago, they're like, oh, there was a plane
with twenty eight Somalions sent back a chartered flight right now, right,
listen to this right, So there's twenty eight of them, right,
it was twenty five adults and three kids. I think
that chartered plane that left Dublin Airport last night cost
three hundred and twenty eight thousand euros for one flight

(01:23:36):
just one way, right, yeah. Now, then they came out
they said, oh, and since like you know, since the
nation has been like an uproar about the immigration thing,
the government would like everybody to know that we've sent
back one hundred and sixty one people.

Speaker 3 (01:23:48):
That's nice. There's millions of them.

Speaker 4 (01:23:51):
You were literally letting hundreds of thousands in every few weeks.
That's a shage packrobum less than two hundred. That's why
it's fine too.

Speaker 3 (01:23:59):
I'm like, the people that have assimilated to our culture
that I've been here for generations, especially those in Canada,
fled like the slavery you know in America run by Jews.
That's literally like, do you know any people in America
actually own slaves? It's like so small, it's like one
point four percent that actually owned slaves, and the majority
of them were Jewish. That's so much so that they

(01:24:20):
would end they would close the slave auctions on the
Jewish holidays. I was gonna start saying Jay's or the
tal Mood is Babylonian because not all Jewish people, it's
the tal Moodist Jews that are doing this. So it's
just funny and it's just like and then you all,
you're you're gonna do you think these people can become
American or Canadian as you have adapted and became who

(01:24:41):
we are as a people, just because they show up here,
like it should be everyone that's been here for generations,
including Ireland to where people did assimilate to the Irish culture.
But I and more on the side of Ireland needs
to be for the Irish obviously, because like everywhere else
needs to be. But that's not this episode. But it's
a big problem. Clearly everyone's seeing it.

Speaker 4 (01:24:59):
Here's a an interesting conspiracy theory. And I don't know
how much you know about this, sort of looked into it,
so I'll be interested to hear. Aliah's untimely death in
August twenty fifth, two thousand and one in a plane
crash in the Bahamas has been the subject of various
conspiracy theories over the years. While while official investigations attributed

(01:25:20):
the tragedy to a pilot error and aircraft overloading, some
people speculate that their debt was orchestrated to benefit others
in the music industry. Here is an overview of some
of the official findings. Aliyah and eight other people perished
when There's Cessna four H two B crash shortly after
takeoff from marsh Harbor Airport. The investigation revealed that the

(01:25:42):
aircraft was carrying more weight than permitted, one more passenger
than it was certified for. The pilot was not authorized
to fly the plane and had falsified all of his credentials,
and toxicology reports indicated the presence of cocaine and alcohol
in the pilot system. Also, these factors led to the
conclusion that the crash was due to human error and

(01:26:03):
regulatory violations. So then we come to the conspiracy theories.
Some theories suggest that a Liah's rising stardom posed a
threat to other artists, leading her leading to her elimination. Specifically,
it says that her death cleared the path for Beyonce's
a scent in the music industry. This theory lacks concrete
evidence and is widely regarded as speculative.

Speaker 3 (01:26:24):
Of course, interest her.

Speaker 4 (01:26:26):
Theory implicates figures like jay Z, Beyonce and Sean Diddy
cone of course, suggesting that they had motives to orchestral
Lea's death. This narrative gained traction on platforms like TikTok,
but until now still remains unsubstantiated. In the book Baby
Girl better known as Aliyah by Kathy Landolly, a claim

(01:26:50):
has made that Leah was reluctant to board the ill
fated flight and was allegedly giving a sleeping pill before
being carried onto the plane. This account is based on
a single witness and hasn't been corrobulated so far. At
some point, some point to the fact that Aliyah and
Michael Jackson all Oh no sorry, Aliyah left eye and

(01:27:12):
Michael Jackson all died on the twenty fifth of different
months and years, suggesting a pattern. However, this is a
likely coincidence.

Speaker 3 (01:27:18):
No symbolical sacrificer, sacrificial rituals, like think about this. Before
Michael Jackson's death, he is like, they're coming after me. Guys, no,
they're coming after me. I can't do against but that
he said that they were coming after him, and then
he dies. And the thing is, Michael Jackson was pretty crucial.
Are pretty crucial. He was pretty That's the word I

(01:27:42):
want to use. He was critical of the Jay's interest
in the music industry and owning the rights to his music,
so much so that I said that I told Billy
that he had not seen memorabilia and Billy's like, no
he didn't. I'm like sure did.

Speaker 4 (01:27:56):
And you know what another thing was weird, right, And
maybe you could say, oh, that's just what happens with
conspiracy theories. But like especially now, all the stuff that's
come out about Diddy, yeah and Diddy, jay Z and
Beyonce's names seem to come up in a lot of conspiracies.

Speaker 3 (01:28:12):
I know, like when even when we talk about Diddy
and like the death of like someone got shot or
whatever outside the club and that is it wasn't j
Loo at there. There's a bunch of stuff like that,
and it's funny what always comes back to those three specifically,
And like you in this idea of like the music
video Crazy in Love where she transitions from like the
old Beyonce to the new like Queen Bee type of

(01:28:36):
Illuminati figure, and that was the idea that she probably
joined the ranks of the Illuminati. And they show this
stuff within like music videos and certain things, and like
jay Z is clearly a part of it. And in
my idea, they're probably just like using him in some
regard and that he believes that he's on top, but
they probably sold him these lines of the gay like

(01:28:57):
is these these oligarchs and these people are praying these
people around with the clowns, Like Malcolm X pointed the
stuff out where he was like, you know, they would
have a lot of people within the jazz black community
where they'd rare the wear these like outrageous outfits but
then try to look like white people and dye their hair.
And you see this in the Malcolm X movie too,

(01:29:18):
where he's like kind of like he doesn't want to
be like that. He doesn't want to jazz abows or
whatever that some of the terms that they used to
use of like being their clown because they would make
them clownish. And then obviously some of the white people,
probably more Jewish culture in not culture, but Jewish subversion
that was going on is essentially just making fun of

(01:29:38):
them realizing that they'll never be them. So that's why
Malcolm X he switched and became more like you know,
he dressed proper and he wore suits that fit him
and got the glasses, cut his hair down because he
wanted to become an intellectual, not like what they wanted
the black community to become, like this kind of like

(01:29:59):
character of it self, you know, if you think about
hip hop and how much kind of goofy stuff is
going on the outfits, Like all of that was pushed
by certain people.

Speaker 4 (01:30:09):
Yeah, some of it's very not for me. Some of
the stuff it came back. So we have Jewish industry
control anti Semitic tropes. It has in brackets of course,
So a classic anti semitic trope claiming Jewish executives control
the music industry and push black artists to promote sex, drugs,

(01:30:31):
and violence, all of for profit, which they do. This
theory is often pushed in online fringe communities and by
some public figures. For example, Kenya West made controversial statements
in twenty twenty two a mix of exaggeration, scapegoating, and
misunderstanding of the power dynamics in media industries. These are
all dangerous and faults.

Speaker 3 (01:30:53):
Of course image gen just imagine a meme of it
is the Jays underneath. He's like, we all know that's
a lot of them got promoted, I'm sure and got
to be able to be as INFLUENTI influential as they
are and able to reach the heights of fame because
they sold their soul.

Speaker 4 (01:31:13):
Well, yeah, and I think there's a lot to be separate.
There's a little bit there as well, like I don't know,
it kind of ties into the whole. Jay Z and
Beyonce are high ranking illuminati, and it says that they
use music to manipulate the masses, triangle hands, signs, Rockefeller
symbol lyrics referencing the tardy or dark forces, and imagery

(01:31:34):
like pyramids and checkerboard floors in all music videos, key albums,
Watch the Throne, Lemonade, Black is King. Also, there's theories
have popped up in recent years that say that Keanye
was expelled from the group after rebelling internally.

Speaker 3 (01:31:51):
Interesting, He's like, I noticed, why is this? Why am
I going like a hic at? But he's like he's
like I know what you're doing, Like in it's fine
because like I truly think that, like maybe, like I
always joked that he was a clone. I do think
they have cloning technology. Like I think that's very real.

(01:32:11):
I think that most people don't want to accept how
crazy the world actually is and how truth is strange
and in fiction in a lot of ways. But I
do find it interesting that he kind of shifted and
then he was like showing remember that video of him
showing all of the Jewish record executives. He's like, look
at all these these are all of the ones that
are Jewish, and he starts noticing these things, right, and
then he starts researching. Maybe he watched Duopea the Last Battle.

(01:32:34):
He starts like cluing into the stuff that's going on,
and then he switches. Even if he was under some
mk ultra type mind control, which I think they do
to a lot of celebrities, and maybe something just switched
on his head and he and even I think he
believes that they sacrifice his mom, because we talked about
this on our Hollywood episode. Was this idea that they
have to sacrifice the children even in the ways of transgenderism.

(01:32:56):
You know, the Prime Minister Mark Karney in Canada, his
kid is trained gender and his wife is definitely a man.
His wife looks like a man, she's got an Adam zample.
But his daughter also thinks he she's a guy. So
like it's it's not only do you sacrifice your children
physically through these occult rituals, with these death sacrifices to

(01:33:20):
essentially show your allegiance to these group of people, but
it's also that if you can subvert your children and
turn them into trans you're also obeying Baphamet, which Bafame
is only uh, he's kind of like a god that's
kind of made up. He's not as ancient as some
of these other ball I think it's more of a
sacrifice to these like demonic forces that I think are
very real, you know what I mean. And then so

(01:33:40):
you have to give up something, so like your children,
you know, being a guy, now it's a girl.

Speaker 7 (01:33:45):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:33:46):
Like here's an other interesting ones. And I think you
mentioned the artier about like blood sacrifices and stuff like that.
So this is the core idea that the celebrity must
ensure a major personal tragedy, usually the death of close
loved one, as a sacrifice in exchange for fame, fortune,
or elevation in the entertainment elite. These debts are claimed

(01:34:07):
to be ritualistic, planned or industry enforced. Kanye and Dondo
west So. In November two thousand and seven, Kenya's mother
died after complications from a cosmetic surgery. The theory says
that some believe her debt was part of an Illuminati
blood sacrifice to solidify Kenya's place in the upper echelans
of fame. He has since referenced feeling responsible and has

(01:34:30):
openly said in interviews like TMZ Live that he was
offered sacrifices. There's a quote from a twenty twenty two
Drink Champs interview where he says, my mother was sacrificed.
Michael Jordan, what about him? Is daddy right? Bill Cosby
his son doctor dre Son Out in Hollywood, a lot
of people come up missing status currently is there seems

(01:34:53):
to be no evidence officially of foul play. Her death
was officially due to heart failure following surgery. The theory
is symbolic for some literal for others.

Speaker 3 (01:35:04):
There's a lot of people in the hip hop industry
especially that lost like their mom, their dad, their son,
their daughter, like and in Hollywood in general, there's a lot. Yeah,
I don't believe it, like you know, my buddys make
fun of me. I'm not. I don't believe in coincidences.
I think everything happens for a reason. It's set up
for a reason, and you have to prove to these people.

(01:35:25):
That's why I like say, someone like me, I might
be able to you know, if I ever gain notoriety
for my music. It's like that may be able to
be in the underground to some extent, they'll never they
never push someone like me and my music, especially some
of the stuff that I've done like that. I always
think of the song extreme Mister Parasites in Parliament where
I've called that some of these agendas. And I'm working
on a song right now called The White Man's Burden, so, uh,

(01:35:48):
it's gonna be probably why Controverts most controversial song. But
after that release it because A're gonna be very busy
coming up with the kids and stuff like that. But
like it is just interesting because you see this throughout
the hip pop industry and like in the subversion subverted
culture of you know, having these ethnic groups fighting each
other in gang wars and like it's all controlled, like

(01:36:11):
Jerry Heller Jewish pushing n w A and be like yeah,
and like even I can't remember her name, but there's
this older black woman who wrote books about this type
of stuff in the culture, and she would talk about
like you know, like once you degrade yourself, then you're
able to take control of these people that are degenerates,
that have degraded themselves to a lower level. Uh, you know,

(01:36:32):
get them to call themselves disparaging words, you know, like
they called each other the N word constantly, but then
get mad when a white person, you know, like Shiloh
Hendrix call somebody you know what I mean, And then
you see the response. And why that happened was because
when Kamarlow Camorrow whatever his name is, Anthony killed Austin

(01:36:53):
metcalf Uh. You saw in the the GoFundMe, you saw
all of these for ethnic roots, mostly black people that
were saying how much they hate white people and they
deserve it and we should kill them all. So the
response to like the Shiloh Hendrix thing, it wasn't because
she said the word at a kid like, that's not

(01:37:14):
even what it's about. She was obviously was fed up.
I don't I don't think what she did was justified.
But the guy filming here was a pedophile, So there's that,
and then so and like, and then when she continued
to say it, essentially it was just like I don't
give a fuck. It's more of a fuck you thing.
That's how that's why it happened. People that don't it
was like a fuck you thing of white people having

(01:37:35):
enough of like being kicked down, and you know, like
they call each other a word, but then somebody else
does it, and then they freak out if somebody calls
me and that's why it was because of slavery and all. Yeah,
there's bad connotations to that word. Why are you using it?
Like iwas like Morgan Freeman's thing, like you all complain
about racism, you how to stop racism? Stop talking about it? Right, So,
like this idea of what has been going on, and

(01:37:56):
it's like they're hitting us against each other. Like I
believe that, yes, there's being a systematical destruction of the
European I've European race. I point to this. I have
tons of evidence. I have writings, PDFs, I have all
the stuff that can prove the UN agenda, their placing
migration with this stuff. But it's not saying that we
shouldn't be coming together realizing what's happening and why these

(01:38:18):
things are happening, and why they push this subversion, subversive
culture on everybody, you know, shaking booties, instant gratification for
money and fame. You know, like how many OnlyFans models
is there? Like I was listening to Jake Shields. Everybody
that doesn't listen to Jake Shields show fight Back. It's
one of the best podcasts out there in my opinion,
And he was debating that one chick that's on OnlyFans,

(01:38:40):
and just his response is just very calm and kind
of funny when you just like how he responds to it,
and like, how much has that been pushed on the
culture guests? Who owns OnlyFans? Can you guess who owns Tinder?
Who owns porn Hub? Like if people start to notice,

(01:39:02):
it all goes back to the same people that are
pushing their subversive nature on everybody else, this degeneracy to
bring everybody to their level. You know, how you rule
over a man, You make him become like an animal
and then you can take control of him. Hence why
we have so much like like riots in the streets,
fights over race and religion. And you know, people would

(01:39:23):
think that I contributed to it by pushing this division. No,
I just my care for my own people and love
for my own people is not hatred for others. I've
had friends of all walks of life, and I've loved
hip hop music my entire life and loved it so
much where I did research and I looked into like
where these people came from, what their struggle was, watching
documentaries on this stuff, like really enjoying what the that

(01:39:44):
culture was, especially the original foundations of what came from.
It was this idea of building communities and like you know,
there would be white rappers, black rappers and Spanic rappers,
like all these people came together. It was like, oh,
you can spit like and they would like big up
each other and there was no there wasn't really this
thing of like a racial ye especially in hip hop.
And it's fine because then you have people like Eminem
that almost felt bad and never ever ever put on

(01:40:06):
a white rapper ever. Even Nekro talks about how he
used to talk to him and he wouldn't do it,
but he put up every other like black rap almost
because he I feel like, what I really do feel
is that Eminem didn't want a white kid to get
be better than to you know what I mean, to
like one up him and become better because he was
afraid of that stuff. Like he had a beef with Cage,

(01:40:28):
which like its Fortunately I have argued with Cage on
the internet too, so that's fun. But I have like
two Cage tattoos. And I've always liked liked Cage's music
because it was interesting. Is different. Uh, he went through
a hell of the time in his life, you know,
stuff that his story is a wild story, but his
his dad and being gunned down, there's a lot of
his history is interesting to say, at least I have
a lot of hip hop. Then he went to a

(01:40:49):
mental institution and they started writting rhymes outside like when
he was out of the mental institution. So pretty pretty
wild stories of some of these hip hop artists. And
he was all about like a struggle, right and conveying
the struggle to the people. That's what my music has
always been about, is pushing this idea of like conspiracy
theory stuff. But also like like I said, one of
my songs is very like sad, and it is supposed

(01:41:10):
to invoke emotion out of people. Like all my music
is meant to make people think and voke emotion. And
even if like there are songs I have that sure
sounds kind of sexist and stuff like that, but it's
the idea of like making you think about why this
stuff occurs. You know, hip hop used to be a
lot of times underground stuff. Especially it's yeah, it's weird.

Speaker 4 (01:41:29):
Like and when you look at a lot of these like,
I don't know whatever people want to call them, the coincidences,
Like I didn't know about the Jennifer Hudson thing. I
don't know if you've.

Speaker 3 (01:41:39):
Ever I've heard of that kind of heard about it.
Why I get into it.

Speaker 4 (01:41:42):
So in two thousand and eight, her mother, brother and
nephew were all a brutantly murdered by her sister's a
strange husband.

Speaker 3 (01:41:50):
Some of those are that's weird.

Speaker 4 (01:41:54):
A lot of people claim that this tragedy was orchestrated
to boost Hudson's career, which peaked pretty much right after
this with an oscar Ana Grammy. She later played a
central role in Dreamgirls, joined The Voice, and appeared on
major award shows. She's remained largely private about the incident.
The crime was investigated and supposedly resolved. The perpetrator, William Balfour,

(01:42:14):
was convicted, and the official statement said that there was
no evidence of industry involvement.

Speaker 3 (01:42:22):
All Right, Yeah, I don't know, because I think so
many I think there's a lot of cops that are
very crooking, a lot of like people in influential roles
in law enforcement judges like that money talks, man, and
a lot of these people are corrupt our own, our whole,
all of our politicians. Every every person has a price,
except for some you know, and a lot of people

(01:42:45):
I think just sell their soul for that. Literally, like
in this life. I always said that since I was
like younger and I started looking to this stuff, and
there's a lot of new people are coming up. Whatever
I like, try to have some influence over TikTok or
whatever you do. I've been doing this for seventeen years.
I should have started doing it earlier on the internet,
but I was in a bad mental state and going
through my own stuff. But I've been doing music and

(01:43:05):
talking about this stuff. I've like literally like the receipts
of how long I've been doing this stuff for. And yeah,
I wasn't the best and sober minded or clear in
my thoughts, but I'm always looking into this stuff. And
it is like kind of interesting because once you start
like looking out from the background and seeing like your
own behavior, the things you were influenced by. And obviously
there's a lot of weird things within like Hollywood and

(01:43:27):
the music industry that we've talked about of where they
can hide anything, they can make anything look like anything,
you know, especially like it's a like politics, it's a
political theater. Like they're all acting like they're in opposition
of each other when they all share more in common
with each other than they do with us. They're all
rich for doing nothing, for playing pretend, and a lot
of these musicians do the same. And now we're getting

(01:43:49):
to a point where like YouTube's like YouTube, people like
mister Beast can make literally like billions, like so much
money from just doing some like fun content with his
friends and a camera, right, And it never used to
be like that. So back then you have to kind
of compete and say there was a singer that was
better than you or you didn't like and then you know,
you get close with the Jays, and you know, because

(01:44:11):
everyone says, oh, there's this, there's a there's a an
Italian mafia. Maybe there's an Irish mafia. They never talked
about the the Jays mafia. Because there is a Jewish mafia.
That's true, It's big existed for so if you say
al Dane Smec that the one main head of the
Italian mafia was Jewish, so start looking at that stuff.

(01:44:31):
You're like, ma, that's a little weird, you know. So
if they control and you get your they got their
fingers into the music industry right at the beginning of Hollywood.
We talked about this in the one episode of the Talmudist.
Jews like getting involved with Hollywood and all that stuff.
And it's interesting because if you look at even remember
the movie the Dewey Cox Story, very funny movie. Remember
when he's in the music studio and then you have

(01:44:53):
all the acidic Jews behind him and they're all like
giving him money to like produce his music. Music. He's
literally making fun because it's a real thing. And if
everyone's like it's not anti semitic or hate to like
notice things. If everyone that owned the record labels in
Hollywood and funded all of it, and we're funding all
the movies or like you know, pornhop. Are all these

(01:45:13):
like mainstream things that get pushed into our subconscious the movies,
the music, everything that's influential, and they're all Muslim. I
would have a question too, you know, like gu I
would be like, that's fucking weird. So like it is
a weird thing. Once you step back and you start
to look at that stuff, and it makes sense why
hip hop changed into what it did and how it

(01:45:34):
became shake your booty, you know, shooting off guns, you know,
go go sell some drugs and shoot some kid on
the street over like petty beefs, you know. And then
they like they were pushing this constantly, and then all
the people like we said that were like doing this,
like whether it be NWA or a lot of these
influential hip hop groups weren't actually gangster and weren't doing

(01:45:55):
this in real life. And then you have kids that
listen to it and will like start fights over a
beef over it, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:46:03):
Yeah, that's when for me, I'm like, uh, I kind
of check out because I'm like, especially when you're fighting
over that trivial shit, I'm like, all right, okay, I
don't under some way you're shooting each other over like
some like fake online the thing that doesn't even really exist,
and these people don't actually care about you anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:46:21):
No until like kill your people in your own community
like like that, like the idea of black on black
crimes very real thing, and this like statistically speaking, look
it up. This has proven white people are more likely
to die by cops shooting them throughout like a lot
of like in like so all this stuff that they've

(01:46:42):
a lot of this subversion in these things. Yeah, bad
things have happened, like the LA riots will probably justify
all this stuff, you know, but a lot of this
stuff is overhyped. And then who controls all the news
media outlets that invokes these division tactics between different ethnic
groups or people in general the same people, right, So
you're constantly pushing this and you're constantly getting people to

(01:47:02):
infight kill their own people, you know, like this like
get you know, influencing crime. So then the fathers are
no longer in the home. That's a big aspect of
of what's happening within the black communities. And there's a
lot now black people talking about this stuff. There's a
guy I'm trying to get on the show and he
calls this stuff out all the time, and people hated people.

(01:47:22):
A lot of people like him for it, but a
lot of people hate him for it. Mark Dice was
literally just talking about this how this one black woman
is going viral because she's like I have I have
Black fatigue, you know of of like the crazy behavior
and erratic behavior coming from some of those communities because
it's been influenced on them. That's your culture and that's
not where your culture is. That's that's Jewish culture that

(01:47:43):
they subverted and forced on you to believe is cool
and hip and edgy. And we all fell for it,
especially white kids. White kids that weren't like raised in
the ghettos, definitely fell for a lot of this stuff.
I know a lot of them, but I was one
of them. You were one of them, Billy was one
of that. We're all one of that. Like, it's just
where we came up and just before YouTube. So it's
interesting when you start to step back and like look

(01:48:04):
at it from the outside, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:48:07):
I was just looking up some of the stats there
about like black on black and white and black and stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:48:15):
Student X so probably filtered.

Speaker 4 (01:48:19):
Let's see black on black crime. Approximately eighty eight percent
of black homicide victims were killed by other black people.

Speaker 3 (01:48:28):
Yes, that's true. I've seen all these.

Speaker 4 (01:48:34):
White victims killed by black offenders, five hundred and sixty
six cases in a twelve month period of martyrs. That
is like people that were actually confirmed dead.

Speaker 3 (01:48:44):
Now, look up how many white people kill black people.

Speaker 4 (01:48:48):
Black people are killed by white people in the same
time period two hundred and forty so it's a really
more than double.

Speaker 3 (01:48:55):
Oh yeah, so that's when they're like white people are
always killing black No, it's like the other way around.
It's very once you start to look at it. And
also the whole world has been programmed to hate white
people because of things that they say their ancestors did
that they didn't do. This over exaggerated, outright lies of
who we are as a people is a factual thing.

Speaker 4 (01:49:15):
In twenty twenty three, there were one thousand, one hundred
and sixty four failed police shootings in the United States. However,
only two hundred and forty eight of these were black individuals.
Of course, that's how you can over nine hundred ye weren't.
So that's how you can radicalize people.

Speaker 3 (01:49:34):
And they use the news a lot of times now
there is I don't care what people say to think
and want to there is an.

Speaker 4 (01:49:40):
Anywer saying that's a good thing. I'm not saying like, oh, well,
you know, only two hundred and forty eight died, so
like that's that's fine. I'm not saying that nobody should
be dying and everybody like that. But like it's like
you said, it's to pedal that shit of going like, okay,
so let's tell all like the you know, African American people,
let's tell them, right, your biggest enemy is the white guy.

Speaker 3 (01:50:02):
That's happening all around the world.

Speaker 4 (01:50:04):
Let's tell the white guy your you know, your enemy
is the black guy and the guy down the street
and whatever, and you can all like hit each other
and marger each other, and then we'll sit back and laugh.

Speaker 3 (01:50:14):
That's what's happening, clearly, and everyone has the eyes of
seak and see that's what's happening. And it's also the
thing of like the white people are the real worldwide minority, right.
So it's just interesting how much this stuff kind of
gets pushed. And it's not just the black community's the
whole world has been brainwashed to essentially think the white
people are their enemy when it's actually we all have

(01:50:35):
the same common enemy. And I'm not saying it's all
the J's or something like that, but it's the the
roth Child, the Rockefellers, the Habsburgs, the Orsinis, these families
that you don't even see the royal family like I
know often when I do videos talking about like Canadian
heritage and who we are as a people and what
makes us Canadian, why Canada is what it is. People
will be like, well, your ancestors did this. I'm like, no,
they didn't. That Most people that build Canada and countries

(01:50:58):
like Australia and stuff like that, they literally came to
these places with the shirt on their back and then
had to put their blood, sweat and tears into building
these countries while they were poor and dying literally like
dying family members is dying all around you all the time.
They didn't they didn't benefit from the spoils of the
royal families, thievery and you know what I mean. So
it's so absurd when people bring that type of stuff

(01:51:21):
up because most people have never either read a book, never,
especially nowadays more than any other time in our history.
People do not read. They do not fact check anything.
They believe Google that's owned by Black Rock, they believe
AI that has been literally admitted that it can lie
and it pushes certain agendas. So like now people are
just getting their facts from the Internet, when unless you

(01:51:43):
actually do like actual fact checking and actually backing up
the history and the writings and stuff like that, CHADGBT
does take stuff from articles around the Internet and stuff
like that which could point more towards the truth to
some extent, but you don't can't trust AI, especially when
it's like, yeah, it's owned by black which who owns
Black Rock? Larry Fink.

Speaker 4 (01:52:03):
Ultimately, like if I if I owned a chat GPT right,
and I have some sort of agenda, or even if
I don't have an agenda, even let's just say, right,
I own chat GPT, right, and let's just say I say, Okay,
I don't like a certain thing, whatever it might be.
I don't like white people, let's say yeah, and I
don't like anything that's like kind of helpful to the

(01:52:26):
white communities or anything like that. So I set parameters
on chat GPT did anytime anyone requests any information or
anything about white people or white communities, I could just
skew that heavily.

Speaker 3 (01:52:38):
The other way, that's like if you look up is
it okay to have Asian pride? It'll be like, yes,
is okay have black prid UEA is okay to have
gay pride? Yes? And it's like it's okay to have
white pride, and it's like no white prize associated with
supremacy groups and Nazis and all that shit, which is
like not even close true. Everyone's listening to David Duke
twice now, he's been on Jake Shields podcast. Listen to

(01:52:59):
him and tell me how like crazy and racist that
guy is. He's an old man that was fighting for
his his cultural heritage, and it's quite clear that's what
it was. And they demonized him because guess what, who
owns the media. Everyone needs to realize how much I
truly believe and I was. I fell for this. Everyone
has been brainwashed so heavily. They've been programmed by cultural

(01:53:20):
subversion in these cultural Marxist agenda, which I've done the
research that's clearly what it is that most people can't
even understand what's going on. Stop, so stop right now.

Speaker 4 (01:53:34):
And this is proving your point that you've just said.
Right So, as you were talking there, I chat gpted
is it okay to have blackbride? And it goes yes,
it is absolutely okay. Actually, should I bring this up
on screen?

Speaker 3 (01:53:53):
Does that make it You've done with your conspiracies after
this and we'll get into the big one.

Speaker 4 (01:53:56):
To end it that I'm not like fake in this
or anything.

Speaker 3 (01:54:02):
First, were we done with your many? I know there's
probably a couple of smaller ones.

Speaker 4 (01:54:08):
But yeah, there is other ones, but they're kind of
like intential. Really okay, So is it okay to have
black pride? Yes, it is absolutely okay to have black pride?
What does black pride mean? Celebrating black culture, history, identity,
recognizing the resilience and achievements of black people, blah blah bah. Right,
so and again right, I have no issue with that.

Speaker 3 (01:54:29):
I need that.

Speaker 4 (01:54:30):
But here's the part where it gets a bit sketchy,
so everybody just remembered it a bit. Yes, it is
absolutely okay. Is the first line?

Speaker 3 (01:54:38):
Mm hmm?

Speaker 4 (01:54:39):
Right of the answer? Now I asked, is it okay
to have white pride? Now, have a look at the
first line of this one. This is a nuanced and
sensitive questions, so let's address it with care and clarity.
Is it okay to have white pride? Short answer? It

(01:55:01):
depends heavily on the intent and context. Black pride, Latino pride,
indigenous pride, and similar expressions are as a response to
systemic oppression, marginalization, and cultural erasure.

Speaker 3 (01:55:15):
Is that true though? Is that true? That's not true though,
because they can exist in their own countries, like Latinos
came from like the idea of like like that that's
from like like colonialism. That's like people forget that Mexico
was a colonized country. And you don't hear them crying
about like land acknowledgments or any of that other shit

(01:55:35):
that all the white countries that were involved in colonialism,
even though I do believe the Indigenous have been paid
back in full. I know their chief steal it. But
in Canada we give them over two trillion dollars, like
the over the span of all these years. That's a
lot of money.

Speaker 5 (01:55:49):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:55:50):
And and then go look at the reserves. They don't
look very great.

Speaker 4 (01:55:52):
It does actually Okay, so maybe this is going to
come back around a bit. But white pride is not
rooted in a history of oppression. Instead, it has historically
been associated and heavily co opted by white nationalists and
supremacy groups. For example, kkki.

Speaker 3 (01:56:09):
But if you said is it okay to have if
it's okay to be a black nationalist, I'm sure it'd
be like, yeah, it's find it. But you can't be
a white you can't be like I think that Ireland
should be for the Irish, because that's technically white nationalism.
That's it's such a stupid thing.

Speaker 4 (01:56:24):
Because of this, white pride is often perceived and used
as a dog whistle for racism or exclusion, even if
that's not someone who's racism. What is okay and healthy?
It's okay to be proud of your family heritage and
cultural background, being proud of Irish, German, Italian Appellationian whatever,
you celebrate European cultures, histories, traditions without excluding or diminishing others.

(01:56:46):
This is something referred to as ethnic or cultural pride,
rather than white pride, which has specifically and often it
has been used to justify racial superiority, ignores or denies
the privileges historically associated with whiteness in the Western societies.
It often masks deeper exclusionary or supremacy surprises views.

Speaker 3 (01:57:10):
Imagine yes, crazy so and then imagine right if I
did what that one kid did to me using one
of my videos on TikTok and and said that all
all black people are demons because he said all white
people are demons, and then they were associated with the nephilomena.
Imagine if I said that it was to this whole
long video about however, like everyone but white people are demons.

(01:57:33):
That's how crazy some of these people have been subverted
and like thinking all this crazy shit. The correction of
thedigenous leader is to blame in this mismanagement of all
the money. It's very true, man, like this chiefs. We
knew there's one guy not far from me. He's dead now,
but I heard stories about him, and he stole all
of the money, uh that was given And it's like crazy,

(01:57:57):
the amount of money he had a mansion. Why everyone
else is suffering? Sad? If you look up the amount
of money that has been given to the indigenous communities
and then you look up their way of like their
standard of living, it stays the exact same, even though
they begin billions of dollars.

Speaker 4 (01:58:08):
It's theory that's crazy. So I said, but how can
you an answer like this? When I asked about black pride?
And it goes When people talk about black pride, usually
a response to centuries of systemic racism, oppression, and cultural rasure,
a form of affirmation and survival in societies that have

(01:58:29):
historically devalued black lives. An expression that promotes inclusion exclusion.

Speaker 3 (01:58:35):
That's not sure that.

Speaker 4 (01:58:35):
On the flip side, then for white pride, it says
used by white supremacist groups like the KKK and neo Nazis,
tied to ideologies of racial superiority and exclusion weaponized in
backlash to civil rights movements and multi of.

Speaker 3 (01:58:49):
Course, and if you actually look and study the civil
rights movements, for everybody that doesn't realize Martin Luther King
Junior was a cultural Marxist. The dude was like communist,
and people like Jesse Lee or whatever talks about this stuff,
and he there's a lot you can look at this.
They're the Black families were structured. The husband was at home.

(01:59:16):
They had a father and a mother throughout like from
the end of the sleigh trade, which at that time
right like sladery ended in like whatever, the eighteens whatever, right,
and then still went on on the other side of
the world. But if you saw the family unit in
the quote unquote Black communities, the African American communities, they
they were pretty cohesive. And then the civil rights movement

(01:59:38):
got pushed and it broke apart the family. And then
you have this push of like drugs and Ronald Wagan
flooding the ghettos with crack cocaine, getting people addicted to drugs,
and that's how you control a society. Also is to
enforce drugs. They did this with the Chinese with the
opiates they like. Essentially, how you can destroy countries is
by getting everyone hooked on drugs, you know, and having

(02:00:00):
them all depressed. You have that in Canada. We have
a huge fentanyl problem in BC where they've legalized drugs.
The leading the second leading cause of death I think
from eighteen to twenty five is fentanyl. So that's how
you destroy society from within. Like it's quite clear they're
destroying the entire Western world.

Speaker 4 (02:00:19):
Yeah, and it's important to say I think there as
well that our issue isn't with Our issue isn't with this,
isn't like oh I don't like I'm not questioned as
in like well, Black pride shouldn't be a thing, or
Latino pride shouldn't be a thing, or whatever I.

Speaker 3 (02:00:40):
Think everyone should be.

Speaker 4 (02:00:41):
That's not what I'm saying. Yeah, everybody should be welcome
to do whatever they want. But like there's a clear
like skew there in like that information you're being fed
on the internet, which we should all have a problem
with whoever is up above that is peddling this ship
because it's like, you know, the black community shouldn't like
the white community. The white community shouldn't like the black community.

Speaker 3 (02:01:01):
It's all the vision white and it's like we all were.

Speaker 4 (02:01:04):
Supposed to be on different sides of everything. While they
sit above kind of laughing about all kill each other.

Speaker 3 (02:01:11):
Yeah, we know who is doing it though. They the
identity as a collective group when it serves that their
interests and unfortunately the indigenous communities are that are doing
well feel no obligation to help those that are not. Yet.
It's it's very true. It's all about self and everyone
has been brainwashed of this like radical individualism. All look
up for yourself, and then we've lost the sense of
community and family and like even like a nation, it's

(02:01:31):
supposed to be like a big family. You're supposed to
come together and have the same cultural heritage. And that's
why they're flooding the country is foreign diasporas of people.
It's because it's being done on purpose, right, It's just
funny because obviously this is different cultures and obviously like
and talking about the stuff is relevant because like this
a lot of white people really did like hip hop
and all that stuff. But there it's uh, people forget

(02:01:53):
that like it. Yeah there was blood, uh and built
on the blood and bones of others. But all civilizations
and all cultures have been to a lot of extent,
almost every single one. But a lot of people do
benefit from the aspirations of white people and the determination.
That's a fact, right, you wouldn't have the modern world.
You wouldn't have cars and planes, you wouldn't have like

(02:02:14):
so many things, if you know. Even when people came
over here to Canada, there was like like there was
people that didn't survive the winters. They came to like
seventy people and six people survived, and they're like, all right,
try again, send some more boats of people, you know.
And that's like the determination and will you know, and
a divided population is easier to control. That's very true.

(02:02:35):
All right, we'll want to get into the big conspiracy now, sure.

Speaker 4 (02:02:39):
So.

Speaker 3 (02:02:40):
In April of twenty twelve, the letter was posted on
blog hip Hop and is read talking about like this
this idea and this chilling explanation of what is going
on and why the culture is so subverted and it's
It's pretty interesting because the letter is anonymous author claim

(02:03:00):
to be a music industry decision maker who was present
at an invite only meeting of like types in nineteen
ninety one. The purpose was a meaning to discuss the
new direction of rap music and behest a small group
of people also present the meeting who represented the privately
that owned represent the private prison industry. Okay, and this

(02:03:25):
is what's interesting, And we know who owned all of
that stuff, So let me know. Can you hear this? Okay?
After more than twenty years, I've decided to tell the
world what I witnessed in nineteen ninety one, which I
believe was one of the biggest turning points in popular

(02:03:46):
music ultimately the American society. I've struggled for a long
time wang the pros and cons of making the story public,
as I was reluctant to implicate the individuals who were
present that day, so I simply decide to leave out names.
Of course you did, and all the details may risk
my own personal wellbeing that who's were like me dragged

(02:04:07):
into something they weren't ready for. Between the late nineteen
eighties and early nineteen nineties, I was called into a
was you may call a decision maker with one of
those more established companies in the music industry. I came
from Europe in the early eighties and quickly established myself
in business. The industry was different back then, since technology

(02:04:28):
and media weren't accessible to everyday people like it is today.
The industry was more controlled over the public and the
means it needs to influence them in any way they
wanted to. This may explain why, in the early nineteen
ninety one, I was invited to attend a closed door
meeting with a small group of Jewish music business insiders.
He didn't say Jewish, but we all know to discuss

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rap music's new direction. Little did I know that we
would be asked to participate in one of the most
unethical and destructive business practices I've ever seen. The meeting
was held at a private residence on the outskirts of
Los Angeles. Remember about twenty five to thirty people being there,
most of them familiar faces, long noses, look kind of

(02:05:12):
like goblins. Just kidding. Speaking to those who knew, we
joked about the theme of the meaning of us didn't
care for rap music and failed to see the purpose
of being invited to these private gatherings. These people didn't
even like the music. And that's why if and this
is not like if you look at the record executives
and the labels, especially at this time, and you look

(02:05:32):
into who is running them, it was literally like it's
like I'm telling you, it's like nine percent the Jays.
So they went to this private discussion. Among the attendees
was the small group of he said, unfamiliar faces and
no attempt to socialize beyond their circles. Based on their

(02:05:54):
behavior and formal appearance appearance, they didn't seem to be
in our industry because this guy could have start off
of the came from Europe. Maybe it was like Anto,
the Beastie Boys and stuff like that. And then so
our casual chatter was interrupted. We were asked to sign
a confidentiality agreement preventing us from publicly discussing the information
presented during the meeting. Needless to say, this intrigued and

(02:06:16):
in some cases disturbed many of us. The agreement was
a page long, but very clear on the matter and
the consequences, which it stated that violating the terms would
result in job termination. We asked several people what this
meeting was about. And for this reason, it was so
secret that you couldn't even couldn't find anyone who had

(02:06:38):
answers for us. So it was so enclosed, and it
was so secret, not even like the people that were invited,
only obviously the select few with the tiny little hats.
So a few people refused to sign it and walked out.
No one stopped them. I was attempted to follow, but
curiosity got the best of me, And you know, curiosity
did kill the cat. A man who was part of

(02:07:00):
the unfamiliar group collected the agreements. I just nava have
a Geelon's. Quickly after the meeting began, one of the
industry colleagues, who shall remain nameless like everybody else, thanked
us for attending. He gave us the floor to a
man who introduced himself by his first name and gave

(02:07:21):
no further details. My name is the sham Uh and
his personal background information about his personal backgrounds. Nobody knew
who he really was. I think he was the owner
of the residence, but it was never confirmed. He briefly
praised all of us of our success and our achievements
in the industry, congratulated us for being selected as a
part of the small group of decision makers. He got

(02:07:44):
like p Diddy in the back, like for the child
or his lap or whatever. At this point I began
to feel slightly uncomfortable at the strangeness of this gathering.
The subject quickly changed as the speaker went on to
tell us that the respective companies who represent end that
he represented had invested interest in the very profitable industry,

(02:08:05):
which became more and more rewarding with our active involvement.
He explained that the companies we work with had invest
in millions into building privately owned prisons, and that our
position of influence in the music industry would actually help
them impact their profitability of these investments. I remember many

(02:08:25):
of us in the group immediately looked at each other confused.
At the time, I didn't know what a private prison was,
but I wasn't the only one. Sure enough, someone asked
what are these prisons were and what did they had
to do with us. We were told that the prisons
were built by privately owned companies who received funding from
the government based on numbers of inmates. The more inmates,

(02:08:49):
the more money the government would pay these prisons. And
this is crazy because it's the same thing of like
the multiculturalist agenda of them funding people, you know what
I mean, them using the hotels and those hotel owners
that are being paid to house all the migrants and
stuff like that. Shocking. I'm sure. I'm sure the plan

(02:09:09):
is laid out and that's supposedly fake protocols. Yeah, and
when we talked about the clergy plan, they literally said
that they were going to bring black people to prominence
in the entertainment industry in sports and use them against
white people. It's a fact.

Speaker 7 (02:09:23):
They must be ontos to them. I don't know if
you can see this, well, I gotta follow. Yeah, this
was literally like two seconds ago when they hit on that.
I'll see it's somebody taking the piss, like, but I
don't know if you can make out what that says.

Speaker 3 (02:09:37):
No, I can't. What does it say?

Speaker 4 (02:09:42):
Sick says Illuminati membership has followed you welcome to the Illuminati.

Speaker 3 (02:09:48):
Of course, I've gotten those like messages on Instagram and stuff,
and I'm like, get out of here.

Speaker 4 (02:09:54):
Thought that that happened. Literally, as like anation above, it
is strange group podcast is now even a hip hop conspiracy.
And then the next thing is illuminative membership has just followed.

Speaker 3 (02:10:04):
You wow, of course, and it's like who knows, man,
But then your phone listens to you so much about
some of the like you know, and it's like you
would like this advertisement, or you might like this reason. Okay,
so they're all confused. But they said that like these
privately owned companies will receive funding from the government much
like a lot of these other things, because it's used

(02:10:25):
to systematically destroy us. So the more inmates, the more
money the government would pay these prisons. It was clear
to us that since these prisons are privately owned, as
they become more of the they privately owned, as they
become more publicly traded, uh, they would be able to
buy shares. Most of us were taken back by this. Again.

(02:10:46):
A couple of people asked what this had to do
with us. At this point, my industry colleague, who had
first opened the meeting, took the floor again and answered
our questions. He told us that since our employers have
become silent investors in the prison prison business, it is
now in their interest to make sure the prisons remained full.
Our job was to make sure that this happened by

(02:11:09):
marketing music which promotes criminal behavior, rap being used the
music of choice. He assured us that this would be
a great situation for us because rap music had become
increasingly profitable market for our companies, and as an employee,
they would buy personal stocks in these prisons. Immediate silence
came over the room. You could have heard a pin drop.

(02:11:31):
I remember looking around to make sure I wasn't dreaming
and saw half the people with their jaws dropped their
drop jaws. My days was interrupted by someone shouted, is
this fucking a joke? Is this a fucking joke? At
this point it became chaotic. Two of the men that
were part of the unfamiliar group? Is is still funny
if you just put like you know jays the unfamiliar group,

(02:11:54):
you know we all know, grabbed a man who shouted
and attempted to remove him from the house. A few
of us, myself included ten time, tried to intervene. One
of them pulled off a gun and we all backed down.
They separated from the crowd and all four of us
were escorted outside. My industry colleague, who had opened the
meeting earlier, hurried us out of the meeting, reminded us

(02:12:19):
that we have signed this agreement and would suffer the
consequences of speaking about this publicly, or even that some
of us who attended the meeting. I asked him why
he was involved with something this corrupt, and he applied
it was bigger than the music business and nothing we
want to challenge without risking consequences, because this is obviously
all about the cultural subversion. That's like I believe that's
a big part of it. It's out of my hands now,

(02:12:42):
Remember you signed an agreement. This is the communist takeover
of like the music industry and to like subvert everything.
He closed the door behind him. The man rushed us
to our cars and watched till we drove off. And
a million things were going through my mind as I
drove away and eventually decided to pull over and park
on the side of the street to collect my thoughts.

(02:13:04):
I replayed everything in my mind and repeated it all
seems so surreal. I was angry with myself for not
having to take more of an active role and questioning
what was being presented to us. I'd like to believe
the shock of it all was suspended my better nature.
After what seemed like an attorney, I was able to
calm myself down to make it home. It didn't take.

(02:13:24):
I didn't talk or call anyone that night. The next day,
back in the office, I was visibly out of it,
but blamed it being under the weather. No one else
in my department had been invited to the meeting, and
I felt no sense of guilt for not being able
to share it what I have witnessed or he had
some sort of guilt. I thought about contacting the three
who were kicked out of the house, but I didn't
remember the names and thought tracking them down would probably

(02:13:47):
bring unwanted attention. I considered speaking out publicly at the
risk of losing my job, but I recently realized I'd
probably be in more. I've jeopardized more than then. Uh then, no,
it's what that's cool. I love Bone Ducks and harmony.
Crazy Bone did a worth watching podcast about this meeting. Wow,

(02:14:10):
I didn't know Crazy Bone talking about that's really cool.
Actually I might actually I have to check that out,
because see they they I always loved Bone Ducks because
they called out the conspiracy stuff too, and and they
called out like the Easy Death and said it was
weird and that they think that I'm I think there
was an interview where the Bone Bone Ducks and Harmony.
At least it might have been Crazy Bone or one

(02:14:32):
of their lazy but one of them came out and
said like, yeah, it's very suspicious and and and reference
to kind of Illuminati stuff. Because I was super into
this stuff at the time. Okay, so let's get back
to the letter. He thought he'd be jeopardizing more than
his job and it wasn't. He didn't want to risk
anything added to his family. He thought about those men
with guns and wonder who they were. I had told

(02:14:52):
and that told us this is bigger than the music industry.
All I could do was let my imagination run free.
There was no answers and no one to talk to.
I tried a little bit of research in privately prisons,
privately on prisons, but did not uncover anything about the
music industry's involvement. However, the information I did find confirmed
how dangerous the prisoners business really was. Days turned into weeks,

(02:15:14):
and weeks into minds. Eventually it was if this meeting
never take place. It all seems so surreal. I became
more reclusive and stopped going to the industry events and
less professionals said that he was obligated to. On occasion
or two, I found myself attending the same functions as
my former colleagues. Both times our eyes met and nothing
more but in exchange. So other people that were in

(02:15:34):
the meeting were like, oh, I saw you there, like
wild because especially if you're up at the top, like
you're a music producer, you're like a doctor dre and
you're like, really, like what as a few months past,
rap music had definitely changed the direction. I was never
a fan of it, but I could tell the difference.
Rap acts talked about politics are harmless fund It's true,

(02:15:54):
and we're quickly fading away as gangster raps started dominating
the airwaves. Only if a few months had passed since
this meeting, But I suspected this idea was presented that
day had been successfully implemented, and it was one that
if the order had been given an all major label executives,
it's almost like it has been given at all tiers
of the levels of the hip hop industry, and they

(02:16:15):
pushed gays wrap all at the same time, conveniently, like
the whole Western world is pushing mass integration. The music
was climbing to the top of the charts, and most
companies were more happy to capitalize on it, and each
was churning out its own version of this gangster rap
like an assembly line. Everyone bought into it. Consumers included
violence and drug use became a central theme in the

(02:16:38):
rap music. I spoke a few times to my peers
in the industry to get their opinions on this new trend,
but was told repeatedly that it was a supply and
demand thing. Sadly, many of them even expressed the music's
reinforcement that reinforced the prejudice of these minority groups. I
officially quit the music business in nineteen eighty three. That's

(02:17:00):
like two years after, but my heart had already left
months before. I broke ties with the majority of my
peers and removed myself from this thing that I'd once loved.
I took off some time and returned to Europe for
a few years. I settled out of the state and
lived quite a quiet life away from the world's entertainment.
As years passed, I managed to keep my secret fear fear,

(02:17:21):
fearful of sharing it with the wrong person, and also
ashamed of not having the balls to blow the whistle.
But as rap got worse my guilt crew. Fortunately in
the late nineties, having the Internet and as the resources
was able to at my disposal in earlier days, it
made it easier to investigate what is now labeled as
the prison industry complex. Now that I have a greater

(02:17:43):
understanding of how privately owned prisons operate, things make more
sense than they ever have before. I see how the
criminalized criminalization of rap music played a big part in promotion,
promoting racial stereotypes, and misguiding so many impressionable young minds
in adopting these glorified criminal behaviors, which often led to incarceration.

(02:18:06):
Like we talked about, twenty years of guilt is heavily loaded,
heavy load to carry, but at least I can do
something now by sharing my story, I hope that the
fans of the rap music realized how it has been
used for the past decades two past decades. Although I
plan on remaining anonymous for the reason for my obvious reasons,
my goal is now to get this information as to

(02:18:28):
many people as possible. Please help me spread the word.
Hopefully others who attended these meetings back in nineteen ninety
one will be inspired by this and tell their own stories.
Most importantly, only you only have one life. If only
one life has been touched by my story, I pray
it will help the guilt become tolerable so that it's

(02:18:50):
crazy because you think about this, right, like Ronald Wraggan
pushing crack cocaine that was created by the CIA, according
to what I have done, rech strown into the ghettos,
pushing the black communities to be violent, especially against each other,
and these gang feuds of different even hip hop groups
that did happen. You have the bloods and the cryps,

(02:19:10):
you know, you have like Snoop Doggs of crip and
gang was a game, was a blood, and you had
this reinforced division and music and this cultural Marxist It's
that's literally what it comes to as well. Like hip
hop culture. I love hip hop, always have, always will.
But a lot of the makings of gangster rap, even
Eve talks about it, like I said, is that they

(02:19:31):
were using it to subvert the culture and cause violence
and chaos, especially within certain ethnic groups. So they could
pack these privately owned prisons with all of these young
kids that were impressionable by this music. Isn't that crazy?
I heard about as a long time ago too.

Speaker 4 (02:19:47):
I have, Yeah, I had heard of this. I hadn't
heard the like ould thing, but I think I remember
seeing something about it before online.

Speaker 3 (02:19:54):
Yeah, wow, dude, And it makes kind of makes sense.
And like all of the privately owned prisons were really
pretty much awed by the j's and they they because
then they get shares from it and funding, and that's
why people are like, oh, we have to pay for
all these people to be in prisons. I'm like, not
really if they're privately owned, which a lot of prisons are,
and then a lot of the prison industries they'll make
like clothes for like McDonald's and Applebee's, and they'll do

(02:20:15):
like these jobs and they'll get these like essentially more
or less free labor. I think they make more money
off the prison industry than they then they have to
pay for it, you know, I would say, so it's crazy.
So uh, there's definitely other hip hop conspiracies that will
get into you know, I've talked about this since the

(02:20:36):
conception of the show, you know, when I had Big
mac On that was his name that we called like
I'll I'll put that episode on the Patreon at some point.
But I joked about. I was like, you know, I
want to do hip hop episodes and conspiracy stuff, and
I was like, I wrap, and he was like himself
in celifate, and I was like that's funny because he
was a jokester kind of guy. And it was just

(02:20:58):
interesting because like I do love I love hip hop,
but I also think that, yeah, I know, it's true
the America. The Americans literally call it the prison industrial complex.
It's true, you know. And I do think that they
used specifically, especially gangster rap, because it was this more
of like like you know, public enemy and stuff, like
they talked about politics and fighting the system and like

(02:21:21):
you know, you have like too Short raping about like
his friends and his homies and hanging out and like
a lot of that older school stuff, and then it
became more and more about gangster rap, and they pushed
more of those people like I always love cool gi
rap and people like that. But they also was you know,
rapping about like you know, gangs and you know, inner

(02:21:41):
conflicts within these gang rivalries, and I do think it
was used to I think this this conspiracy theory is
probably very real, more real than most people want to acknowledge.

Speaker 4 (02:21:53):
Is a scary toss.

Speaker 3 (02:21:54):
I'll be honest, I doesn't know weird and how how
much they subverted it. Now look at it, it's like
super gay and they pushed Satan all the time, Like
that's not a coincidence. That's being pushed by the same
people to invert people, to make them believe in horrible things,
to like look at like Little nas X. We went
from like it's really like you know, Nwa Tupac, even

(02:22:14):
though Tubac was probably gay, and we went from all
this like hardcore like even some of the underground stuff
fifty cent even in g Unit and eminem to like
Little nas X like grinding on Satan, you know what
I mean. That's yeah, it's like it obviously it's been used.
Doja cat like that chicks like a reptilian. There's that

(02:22:36):
video of for looking like a demon and she's all
like god like it's just bald and has curled up
in a corner, Like what the fuck? That's so weird
to me, man, she's a scary I mean, take away
the makeup, even little Kim. Take away the make it
from a little Kim and she looks.

Speaker 4 (02:22:54):
Horrendous, terrific, shocked.

Speaker 3 (02:22:58):
So I enjoyed this. I've been holy on this for
a long time, and I was like, oh, it can
be a short episode, but I really wanted to Like
if we're gonna talk about hip hop conspiracies, I talk
about a bunch of different ones. So I thought this
was really good and I you know, I enjoy doing
this because I do love the music. This will come
back at some point, Like that's what I said, Like
I've always loved music and why I pushed myself more

(02:23:18):
into writing right because it was something like I didn't
need a band. I've done all my music by myself,
other than the stuff that I've done with Billy, with
Tom Kat and Kirby right which we released our little
album and interestingly enough, something that's like it's starting to
get a lot of streams on Spotify Actuid to Billy,
I was like, of course, why there's a song we

(02:23:39):
did called reach Out. It's about suicide prevention, and like
it's getting more and more streams. I was like, and
of all the things that we've done, like my Fuck
Trudeosa will always have the probably the most downloads because
it was just people were using all over TikTok, like
it went viral thousands upon thousands of videos and then
shares and stuff like that. But like I'm like, I've
got all the stuff that I've done me and Billy's
really sad song like and then Bill is like, there's

(02:24:01):
somebody that loves you. The said, like, you know, I
just this idea of like, you know your friend, you know,
it's people out there that love you, and you need
to remember that, don't kill yourself. And that's the song
that's getting more more streams.

Speaker 4 (02:24:13):
And then they listen to the rest of them and go, oh.

Speaker 3 (02:24:15):
Oh yeah, this guy like literally told trance people done
alive themselves. The song which it was, it was the
song is called the Dream is for a reason. It's
supposed to make fun of all that stuff and say like, oh,
you gonna call me extreme. It's like the same idea
of like Eminem making the music that he did, of
like how like calling in all this stuff and being
like talking about killing his wife. It's just a fantasy world.
Like a lot of hip hop in general and music

(02:24:37):
and a lot of times not all of it, but
a lot of it is like a fantasy world that
they created. You know, Eminem wasn't doing half that stuff
that he said, he was like and but there is
a lot of music that he did do about him
the way he grew up, which I think is very real.
But a lot of the other stuff, like you think
he was actually like assaulting his mom and going to
gay bash people and all the other things that he

(02:24:57):
did or said he did, you know what. Like, But
it's funny how we went from that to the Eminem
that doesn't like Trump and he's like, you like Trump,
don't listen to my music. I don't like Trump either,
But I think it's funny that he went from like
this guy that like talked about, yeah, assaulting his mom
and killing his wife, and he's like, if you vote
for Trump, don't listen.

Speaker 4 (02:25:16):
To me.

Speaker 3 (02:25:18):
Clone.

Speaker 4 (02:25:18):
Really weird thing to say.

Speaker 3 (02:25:19):
As I was just like, we'll get into Eminem when
we talked about our cloning episode, because there's there's differences
in his facial structure.

Speaker 4 (02:25:28):
The biggest one.

Speaker 3 (02:25:28):
Yeah, for sure, they killed him. So I appreciate everybody, obviously,
you know, we want you to like, comment, subscribe, share it,
do what you need to do. We appreciate all the support.
This may be the last episode that we do live.
You're still gonna get videos me and Aaron have. I
just released our Psychic Vampire episode on video, which will

(02:25:50):
be out way before this on audio. That was a
lot of fun. It's just a funny I actually really
enjoyed doing that episode because it's just it's kind of
so different than some of our stuff we've done. I'm
still saying, not a bunch of episodes. I have another
episode Dustin Nemoys coming which all the audio people will
hear these by the time this comes down audio. But
we have a lot of stuff. I'm sitting on some stuff.
I have another episode of Ryan Gable that will come out.

(02:26:11):
So I'm excited to be a father. I'm also excited
that once we sit down in these chairs again, I'll
still be talking to you. But once we s down
these chairs again and we can do something I wander,
something big and fun, something ridiculous and absurd. It we'll
go live for it, but that will probably be in July.
But all the fans on the audio and even the video,
you won't really notice the the what's that, what's that word?

(02:26:35):
The hiatus, you won't notice it as much.

Speaker 4 (02:26:38):
I could have YouTube algorithms myself by then. If if
Tom goes on in an extended break.

Speaker 3 (02:26:45):
Yeah, maybe you'll get your uh, your chair. I never
understand why, like we're being censored for sure on YouTube,
even your channel you you uh, you have over two
thousand people, but it sits there and it's like it's
I don't understand why we're not why little episodes not
being pushed out. And you've had a lot of great
guests on your show. So everyone, if you see this

(02:27:05):
on YouTube, you listen to audio, and you just want
to do us a favor, obviously subscribe to Strange Group
podcast and Class Horror Cast on YouTube. That's why I
really push Aaron to use rumble. Yeah, I appreciate everybody.
I'm very excited. She's due from what time of recording this.
She's due in two days, so like it's it's gonna
be I'm very excited, but like this is gonna change

(02:27:27):
my life. Things are gonna shift in a different direction.
You might have to pick it. Like it might be
recording on Sunday morning, so everyone that watches this live,
it might be like a Sunday morning thing and where
we recur and do like everything on a Sunday morning
and another day and then you guys can catch more
of the live stuff then, but it's it's gonna be
a big change and I'm very excited. But it's wild.
So yeah, support Aaron show, support my show. All the

(02:27:49):
support would be like very appreciative, like commenting, share, you know,
tuning in, even commenting on the episodes that we're not
live that you'll end up watching. Make sure you like
comments on the main page, Like do all the there's
really help giving up. I don't think people understand like
giving a five star rate and review on Apple boosts
up your stuff, Like people like I just I like

(02:28:11):
Ellison all the time, but I'm like, doing those small
little things for free do help out way more than
you think.

Speaker 4 (02:28:18):
Yep. Same with Spotify, same with YouTube, same with all
them places. It's like it helps the algorithm, and I
feel like like people have to kind of do that
to help break through whatever potential, like because sometimes, like
you mentioned YouTube, they're like and I'm like, I feel
like I've been nrfed on YouTube to a degree that

(02:28:39):
it's really.

Speaker 3 (02:28:40):
Weird because you have to like I guess and you've
done hilarious.

Speaker 4 (02:28:43):
I was on like two point two k subscribers and
then in the last year, like I've only went up
like three four hundreds I know subscribers in a year,
and I'm like, oh, it's a bit weird.

Speaker 3 (02:28:59):
Same with us weeks and I and for all people
out there, like I can't monetize on YouTube because we're
labeled as controversial and dangerous. Literally Spotify said this to
stuff to us. So that's why your support does mean
more than you think, because they do censor content, Like
I can't make money off of YouTube even at this point,
even though I have enough followers too. When we built
up enough content, there's enough people seeing it where and

(02:29:20):
then once you're monetized, they push your stuff out there
actually more and I can't do that. So this is
why even on the audio aspect of things, I could
add I could optimize my ads and you could hear
an ad every fifteen minutes. And then I did it
for like a week and I listened back to our
episodes and it was like this is too often. So
I only put ads in the beginning and the end,
and I'm making less money because of that. So like

(02:29:43):
I don't live. I don't make that much money off
the show. As never the point of this, but obviously
it is a dream to want to live off this
stuff and people that hear this, those little things means
more than you think. Okay, for two dollars a day,
you can make my life. Come on, help help me,
help help help me.

Speaker 4 (02:30:07):
I'm at the bottom of a well, help me.

Speaker 3 (02:30:10):
If I are man, buy my march.

Speaker 4 (02:30:13):
It'll get me out as well.

Speaker 3 (02:30:16):
We have a lot of new merch on the site
too that actually like that. We don't make much money
off that, but wrapping the shirts, wrapping stuff like this.
I love this shirt of like this is such a
This is a design that I created and then I
used obviously AI to make it better because I'm like,
this could be way better. So, you know, with the
advent of that stuff, it helps us create things that

(02:30:36):
normally we wouldn't be able to. But we have a
bunch of fun new merchs on that site. It's awesome.
So yeah, everybody support like comment if you watch this affter,
I see people like you know, hundreds of people watching
on YouTube and click that like button, share it all
that stuff at rate and review. There's more and more
people commenting on Spotify. It's funny now because we're releasing

(02:30:58):
I'm if people don't know us on Spotify we're releasing
videos slowly. If you go at the beginning of the show,
you'll see that there's a couple there's a big handful
of episodes that are I'm now putting the video on Spotify,
and I released our Rottenberg the Rottenberg Cannibal. I was like,
just so people know that there's there's some episodes that
have video too, and it's just funny how it breaks down,

(02:31:22):
and it's just like Billy's awesome, Aaron's pipe, Aaron's pipe
because you're pipe burst. It's like and how it like
you could click on like the different sections of like
what we're talking about is actually, yeah, what's Aaron's channel again?
And it's uh, it's a R a N He's a
Aaron Aaron class horror cast. Everybody out there, class horror cast.

(02:31:51):
And then you'll see even my episode stuff pop up
and you'll see his channel. But yeah, that's for anyone
out there. It does. We have two shows. Aaron has
a bunch of different guests that work in the movie
industry on his show, but then me and him mostly
do the deep dives. If we just did that hilarious
episode about metword Elm Street.

Speaker 4 (02:32:09):
And you know what, It's hilarious. They do way better.
Our episodes do way better on YouTube than they do
on audio. And then when I released the interviews with
certain people on YouTube, they do terrible, and then on
audio they do really well.

Speaker 3 (02:32:24):
It's so weird. I don't understand the algorithm I was doing,
Like why it shifts that way, you know, because we've
done some funny like the Friday thirteenth has done really well,
Like there's episodes out there like people really enjoy, and
we have some more stuff coming.

Speaker 4 (02:32:38):
That.

Speaker 3 (02:32:38):
Even on the audio side, I'm going to post one
from Aaron Show once he's released it that you guys
will probably really enjoy. Point in that direction. Obviously, I
always forget Go check out my new album, Rebel the
Raptilian on all music platforms. It would be it would
be much appreciate. I've been doing music way long, and
I've been doing podcasting. Music has always been my first love.

(02:32:59):
So go check out my musa sick. They're Raptilian and
all music platforms, and uh, everybody stays stranger there. We
hope you enjoyed this episode, and we hope to see
you soon. You'll see us soon, but we won't see you.
I guess.

Speaker 4 (02:33:12):
We'll never see you again.

Speaker 3 (02:33:13):
No, I'm not. No, Aaron's all concerned. He's sad that
I can never come back. But that's not gonna happen.
I can't do it.

Speaker 4 (02:33:18):
He's never going to come back. So makes you do
all your money and give him a reason to come back.

Speaker 3 (02:33:25):
Let's do it. Yes, I love you guys, Thank you
for enjoying everybody. We love you.

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