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November 25, 2024 • 31 mins

Join me, Melissa, as I take you on a thrilling journey through the world of paranormal investigations and the fascinating growth of our Strange Deranged Beyond Insane community. Ever wondered how a dream could lead to a real-life ghost story? Discover how my dream about green water ties into the legend of the Green Ghost in Lake Odessa, Michigan, and the uncanny synchronicities that connect our dreams to local hauntings. With a podcast rating of 4.2 on Rephonic and 500 active listeners worldwide, the momentum is palpable. I'm brimming with gratitude for listeners, especially those in North America, and I'm eager to explore regions like Michigan and California for intriguing tales and haunted locations. This celebration of our expanding audience sets the stage for ambitious plans ahead.

The allure of unexplored tunnels and historical enigmas beckons us next, unraveling the mysteries of Belleville, Michigan, and Illinois. Within this labyrinthine journey, I share a vision of a camouflaged figure, blurring the lines between dreams and reality, while reflecting on the 'third eye' perception that guides our explorations. As our research transforms from ghost hunting to dedicated paranormal inquiry, the Macomb Paranormal Research Society Facebook page emerges as a vibrant hub for like-minded souls. Join me as we uncover hidden histories, piece together mismatched records, and breathe life into untold stories before they fade into oblivion. Your insights and experiences are vital to enriching our collective understanding, so let's embark together on this quest into the unknown.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey everyone, welcome back to Strange, strange Beyond
Insane, and this is your host,melissa.
So I want to start off thisepisode with some really
positive news and evencelebration right now.
So, according to the appBriefonic, my podcast has gotten
an overall 4.2 rating, whichI'm completely, completely happy

(00:24):
with.
You know, there's room to go up.
Of course, we would love afive-star rating, but that's not
reality, right?
So all feedback is good.
Now, the best part of this isis that it has shown me that I
have 500 active listeners,active listeners worldwide,
mostly in America, but we havelisteners from all over the

(00:48):
world.
Okay, so let me just go to mystats.
All time, all right, and I wantto show you or I'm sorry, not
show you, tell you.
So in North North America ispretty much 95% of the downloads
.
We also have downloads fromEurope, asia, africa, south

(01:10):
America, japan I mean, like it'scrazy China, russia, and the
list goes on.
But my appreciation to mylisteners in North America and
I'm going to start with Michigan, because this is what I can do
right now.
I am going to start travelingto these places that you, but

(01:36):
these are places that I'm goingto explore.
So I'm going to start withtheville, which we've been to

(02:07):
Belleville before, but wehaven't explored enough in there
.
Ecorse, southfield, marcellus,ferndale, ann Arbor, river Rouge
, let's see Again.
You guys, we have been all overMichigan, obviously growing up
in Michigan, but these areplaces we really haven't like

(02:29):
investigated, um.
Okay, so Cassopolis, I think,dundee, plainwell, new Baltimore
, jenison, blissfield, oxford,adrian, royal Oak, hopkins,
clarkston, stirling Michigan NotStirling Heights where I live

(02:54):
Stirling South, lyon, wyandotte,grosse Pointe Woods, farmington
, allendale, ada, which we havedone a little bit of
investigation in Ada, um, but wewere literally only there for
like a half hour driving homefrom um, a place that we stayed

(03:16):
at Midland Lake, odessa,charlotte, kalamazoo, marquette,
charlotte, kalamazoo, marquette, waterford, greenville, lapeer,
which we have investigated alot in Lapeer but not enough, so
I'm going to put that one inhere too.
Grosse Ile Township.
So we have been to Grosse Ile,we have done episodes, but Dawn

(03:40):
from Ghost Whispers shout out toDawn.
She told us that there's aplace that you can stay on
Grosse Ile doing overnight.
I believe it's a house, so wedefinitely have to do that.
Harbor Beach, rapid City, whiteLake, sault, ste Marie, gladwin,

(04:00):
which my aunt owns property upin Gladwin.
That's where Paul, usually myhusband, goes hunting every year
, and I grew up in Gladwinpretty much as a kid every
summer, but never did anyinvestigations or any paranormal
research there Claussen, novi,wixom, St Ignace Now there are a

(04:28):
lot of places other thanMichigan that I want to go
explore, right, so I have a lotof listeners in, like all parts
of California, la, let's see.
Riverside California, uplandCalifornia, lake Forest
California, corona, california,irving California, norco

(04:52):
California, oceanside,california I think I already
said LA, right, san Diego,california, rancho, san Diego,

(05:20):
california, rancho it's going tobe a hard word to say Rancho,
cusamanga, california, I think.
Sorry if I did not say that,right, you guys.
Orange, california, fullertonCalifornia, cathedral City,
california, san Bernardo,california.
There's a lot of California inhere.

(05:40):
Oh, and I got listeners, newlisteners, in Brooklyn, new York
, new York, new York, houston,texas, oh, my goodness, you know
, I don't think this was on mylist Walden Lake, michigan we
need to check that out too.
Dallas, texas.
We got Dayton, ohio, chicago.

(06:05):
Oh, I missed this one too.
Aliso Vajo, california, I think.
Anyways, california, I have nodesire to live there or like
vacation for, like you know, la,like to go downtown LA, oh,
cool, whatever, I don't give afuck about that or Hollyweird,

(06:25):
but California is very haunted.
There are so many cool placesin Cali, so hopefully one day I
make it there and I can do likean extended trip, because I'm
going to need a lot of days toget everything in that I want to
do.
Um, we do have.
Uh, let's see another newlistener is from Portland,
oregon.

(06:45):
Oh, I've just seen this too.
It just popped up Anaheim,california.
We have quite a few in Ohio,the newest, which I think is
really cool, one of the newestout-of-country ones is Singapore
, singapore, in Japan.
I'm sorry, is that South Koreaor Japan?
But we, so we have listeners inJapan, south Korea, ireland,

(07:08):
russia, australia, germany, theUK, canada.
There are new listeners fromToronto, canada, which is
awesome.
Um, let's see India, ukraine,denmark, trinidad and Tobago,
new Zealand, turkey, israel,norway, finland, sweden, chile I

(07:32):
don't even know how to help tosay that name um, philippines,
spain, slovakia, nigeria, france, panama, pakistan, switzerland.
Um, Czechoslovakia I think ishow you say that Poland,
lithuania, georgia not Georgialike the US Mexico, togo,

(07:57):
guatemala.
So, like I said, I'm going tostart with the listeners in
Michigan and again, I promiseyou guys all live podcasts of
where we're at.
Now.
I do want to talk about LakeOdessa, michigan.
So there's a back story, right.
I had a dream one night aboutthis haunted lake and the color

(08:20):
of the lake was like lime greenand it was bubbling and like
this black shadow like pushed meinto this lake and I woke right
up as soon as I, you know, fellinto the water.
I woke up and I'm like what thefuck?
Well, I kept seeing um, andthen there was like patterns,
right, like every time that Iwould be like movie surfing or,
you know, show surfing.
I kept seeing this like stuffabout this lake Odessa, and I

(08:45):
I'm like I made a mental notethat I'm gonna go back and watch
this stuff, okay, the craziestthing is is that the other night
, when I was looking at ourviewers and it showed up that
like we have a new listener, anewer listener like last 10
episodes in Lake Odessa, I'mlike, oh my God, like it all
came together, right.

(09:05):
So there's definitely likesynchronicities with this place
for me and I've dreamed, youknow, dreamt about it, and you
guys know, when I dream of aplace, I usually end up there.
So that's crazy, because a fewepisodes back, you guys remember
me telling you how I fellasleep on Teresa's porch, and I
imagined in my head I waswalking in this cemetery and

(09:27):
then a cemetery that one of ourTikTok friends told me to go to
with Christina, aka Harry.
We end up at the cemetery andI'm like, oh my god, I know this
place and she's like I thoughtyou haven't been here, it
doesn't show it on your googlemaps and I this is a place I
dreamt of when I was with Teresa, and Teresa remembers key words

(09:49):
like the entryway was very wide, it was really pretty, it
looked like a beautiful fallnight and that's exactly how
that cemetery was in Plymouth.
So I did dream of it and Iended up there.
So maybe I will end up in LakeOdessa.
So whoever is in Lake Odessa,if you are listening to this
episode, thank you so much forshowing me this sign.

(10:13):
Now, I did look up if LakeOdessa is haunted.
So the AI overview wasextremely short about this place
.
Review was extremely shortabout this place and it just
says, yes, there is a reportedghost in Lake Odessa, michigan,
known known as the green ghost.
Oh, my god, you guys and I wastalking about the water being

(10:34):
green.
I swear to god, I didn't evenread this.
I just looked it up and I hadit saved up here for when I
started this episode is that not?
Not crazy, the green ghost?
And I said I remember fallinginto this lime green bubbling
water.
Then I woke up Fucking crazy.
See what I mean Synchronicities, okay.
So then I looked up um movieabout Lake Odessa Okay, and it

(11:01):
says new Odessa, the village ofthe lake, is a documentary about
the unique village of newOdessa.
The documentary attempts tochronicle the story of the
village, which was born to die.
Lake Odessa is a village inInonia County, michigan.

(11:24):
The village's name comes fromthe two lakes in the area Tupper
Lake and Jordan Lake and thetownship it's in is Odessa
Township.
The township was named in 1846to honor a Russian city, while
also being somewhat exclusiveWow.

(11:47):
So what is the history of LakeOdessa?
So it pretty much just goesover the same thing that Google
AI said let's see.
Okay, let's look up the census.
Lake Odessa is a village inIonia County, us state of

(12:08):
Michigan.
The population was 2018 at the2010 census.
It is located in the southernportion of the county, in Odessa
Township, on the northeastshore of Jordan Lake, which is
boundary with Berry County.
Since 1987, lake Odessa hasbeen named a Tree City, usa by

(12:31):
the National Arbor DayFoundation.
So where is this?
So nickname is Lake O.
Where exactly is thiscoordinates?
Okay, so I have the coordinates.

(12:52):
I'm looking on the map rightnow.
Okay, so the history Severalbrothers in the Russell family
began settling here around 1839,and it became known as the
Russell Settlement.
It later became became known asBonanza and a post office with
that name was established in1880.
When the Detroit Lansing andNorthern Railroad, later the

(13:16):
Pierre Marquette Railroad, wasbuilt through the area in the
1880s, the village was movedabout a mile southwest.
At that time the name waschanged to Lake Odessa, derived
from the nearby Jordan Lake andthe name of Odessa Township,
which had been established in1846.
The township had been named forthe city of Odessa in Ukraine,

(13:41):
reflecting an interest of one ofthe founders in Ukraine as well
as a desire for distinctivename.
Investor Humphrey Wagerpurchased 80 acres of farmland
on Jordan Lake and plated thevillage in 1887.
With the advantage of a stationon the new railroad, the new

(14:04):
village quickly eclipsed theformer settlement at Bonanza,
the village incorporated in 1889.
John R Waite, a local man withan interest in history, has been
credited with significanthistorical research for the
village of Lake Odessa.
John is also recognized as thepresident of the Lake Odessa

(14:28):
Area Historical Society and isinvolved census the geography.
I'm just trying to see again youguys, I am researching this

(14:50):
blindsided as I'm talking to you.
Okay, let's talk, let's open upreddit.
Okay, so this is a movie aboutthe haunted lake that targets
the family.
Okay, so I did watch a movie.

(15:13):
So this is about lake lannierand it reminded me of the movie
I had seen about a lake withsimilar history.
Pretty much, a family goes outto a lake in a family member
drought.
Eventually they return to thelake and someone in the family
discovers that they are beinghaunted by the lake because
their ancestors were slaveowners or something similar, and

(15:36):
they are being haunted by thepeople that were killed when the
lake was made.
This person says sounds likethe episode of American Horror
Story is called Lake.
Yeah, so that's all on Redditabout that.

(15:57):
So I don't know why I had thisdream and this was again.
This was this past spring, but Ijust found that that was so
compelling that that was one ofthe places that showed up on a
you know, a new download forthis podcast and I had to share
this with you guys.

(16:17):
So we have, you know, we we goexploring everywhere and we're
not really I hate I kind of hatethe term ghost hunters now,
because in this like last likeyear and a half, we have all
agreed that we are moreparanormal researchers.

(16:40):
And again, you guys, ourFacebook page is Macomb
Paranormal Research Society.
So that's kind of like why wemade that Facebook page, because
I don't put a lot of my podcast, my paranormal, my conspiracy
theories, anything really, on myprivate Facebook, just because

(17:02):
Facebook is so lame.
Now, no offense, but it's justnot what it used to be.
So we decided to make this pageso that you know, and let me
tell you, it's really taking off.
I mean, I have, well, here,there are 75 new friend requests
today I just opened it up.
So that should tell you howmuch people want to talk about

(17:27):
these things, you know, and theywant safe places.
They don't want to be judged.
You know we're past the taboothing, right?
So this page, again Facebook,is called Macomb Paranormal
Research Society.
We have over a thousand friends.
Um, we do have 209 peoplefollowing us.

(17:48):
My feed for the um Buzzsproutfor the podcast is on.
It's.
There's a link in my bio onhere, um, and I have, you know,
pictures of, of course, and evenepisodes of the podcast, so I
think maybe I'm getting newlisteners from that too.
But this page is for ourunofficial quote, unquote,

(18:13):
unofficial team, which is prettymuch just us ladies now Mys
myself, christina, carissa,teresa, and you know we're just
out there researching things, sobringing that up.
So about the Belleville?
So Soup Cemetery we have.
We were introduced, um, we wereintroduced to Soup Cemetery.

(18:36):
I'm trying to think of theright words to say because I
didn't, I didn't know anythingabout this, but from the Dowling
Brothers, tom and Scott shoutout to them Thank you guys for
showing us the cemetery.
We've went here so many timesand, like I think they used to
get irritated with hearingCarissa and I like, oh, this

(18:57):
place isn't haunted Because wenever really had a lot of action
.
And I like, oh, this placeisn't haunted Because we never
really had a lot of action.
Now, last year we took Christinaher first time, aka Harry, and
oh my goodness, we had so muchthings happen.
We actually buy Elizabeth'ssoups, so Elizabeth's soup has
two graves.
She was known as the BellevilleWitch and then she was like

(19:18):
into witchcraft and this, andthat, although her family claims
that they have no record of herbeing involved with witchcraft,
but anyways, by both of hergraves at separate times, we
have recordings, memories, ofcourse me and Christina and
pictures.
So the first thing we bothsmelled was sulfur and it was so

(19:42):
like pungent, like it was very,very, very strong.
And then we Christina startedsnapping these pictures and well
, that's when she startedgetting like the alien figures.
You know, if you will, thealien heads and stuff Was
actually at soup.
That's how it started with thealiens, with the paranormal, and
we're like what the fuck?
So she went home that night,the first time at soup that she

(20:05):
had been, you know, been there,and she was sleeping and her ass
cause her phone was down by herass Her ass literally must've
hit the picture button or thislittle alien creature did, oh my
God.
So you all you see is her hipand like her leg, and this
little alien dude is standingbehind so like we don't know if

(20:27):
he, you know, or it, her,whatever being took this picture
or Christina's ass took it, buteither way, she got the alien
in the picture and ever sincethen she's had all these like
weird things happen at the house.
Her house was already haunted.
But you know, that's anotherthing too, why I love having all

(20:48):
these listeners, because youknow, you guys, we're on the
brink of, like all of us, inthis research of paranormal and
things that we can't explain.
We are so close to understandingwhy everything is, you know,
connected.
You know paranormal UFO, uaps,ufos again.

(21:10):
You know water and you knowcertain smells and screams and
you know a lot of screams.
We know can be animals, butthere's certain patterns of
things happening.
And you know, being a female toa male voice, and you know we
just went through that againwhat, a couple months ago, we
had a man we didn't get itrecorded, but we had a man

(21:33):
screaming bloody murder, likehelp me, help me, help me.
Like screaming so loud, and I'mthinking how does no one else
hear that if all of us hear that?
Well, that's the thing, somethings are just not meant to be
recorded.
So now, two weeks ago, chris andI went to Soup Cemetery and we
were, you know, we were on ourghost apps and we got all these

(21:58):
downloads on, like the historyof Belleville.
Okay, so I'm looking through.
Okay, so we got like Witchcraft, deacon, we kept getting
Charles and Justin, we got themost craziest pictures of this,

(22:21):
like crazy fog and it wasgetting thicker and thicker and
thicker.
We're sitting in the cemeteryand I'm like, do you see this?
Like we can't even see in frontof us, and she's like I've
never seen fog in the cemeterylike this.
So we have a lot of pictures ofthat.
We have, um, we havescreenshots of them saying like
protect yourself, accidents willhappen.

(22:43):
Rural landscapes, oh.
So here's another thing too.
So last episode they're talkingabout like becoming spiritually
awakened and how we're allhaving these strange symptoms.
Well, I have been sneezing likecrazy and they don't really
feel like allergy sneezes, likethey hurt and they're like super
loud and intense.

(23:03):
So I sneezed.
I kept sneezing the other nightand it said, achoo, um, okay,
now I want to get down to.
So we have.
So we got catastrophic injuries.
I died, id card, several minorsso not like minor underage

(23:25):
minors in like, where are youlooking Underground tunnels?
So we did look that up andthere was underground tunnels in
Belleville.
So before I get into like thefacts that we looked up, you

(23:49):
know the underground tunnels andsome other, um, you know cool
facts about Belleville.
So when we had come back intothe cemetery I think it was
either the second or the thirdtime, because we left a couple
times.
We always do this I fell asleep,but not a deep sleep.
So anyone that knows me andanyone that's been on this

(24:11):
podcast will tell you me theywould say when this girl sleeps
like when she's in a deep sleep.
They would say when this girlsleeps like when she's in a deep
sleep, I will annoy the living,the dead, all of it, animals
because I sleep so deep and Isnore and I talk in my sleep.
Sometimes my snores are like awhistle, sometimes they're like

(24:33):
a deep snore.
So you just never know whatyou're going to get.
When I'm in a deep sleep.
Now, when I kind of start tofall asleep but I'm not
completely that in that like REMstate, I guess you can my third
eye will activate and I stilldon't know how to like.
I don't know how to controlthat Like.
I wish I could learn how tocontrol my third eye and learn

(24:55):
what I'm seeing in a consciousstate and really understand it,
but I don't.
I still have not mastered that.
Hopefully in this lifetime Iwill.
So I start to zone out Didn'tknow that I was sleeping, which
means, again, I wasn't reallysleeping, but I was in a very
relaxed state.
So, carissa, at this point Idon't know where she's at in the

(25:17):
cemetery, but in my dream,which was again maybe 10 seconds
, I was out I see this deerlooking at us, huge, like
fucking huge buck.
I don't know what point buck, Imean, just big-ass antlers.
It was a big, fat, juicy deer.
And I'm like, oh, you know inmy conscious self, wow, cool, a

(25:44):
deer, excuse me.
All of a sudden it startsrunning along the fence and I'm
watching and then all of asudden the deer disappears and
this thing, it looks like ahuman but you can't see the head
or the arms because it has ablanket over it and the blanket

(26:04):
is covered with leaves, likewhat they use for hunting or
back in the jungles in the wartimes.
And then that starts running.
I open my eyes and I'm tellingChris I said the tree line a
deer.
And then I think a person witha camouflage blanket, leaf thing
on, and she's like okay.
And I'm like, no, like I'veseen it.

(26:25):
She goes, I believe you, I go,no, like I've seen it, without
looking, and she just lookedover at me.
I go, dude, I was sleeping.
And she's like you weresleeping.
I'm like you know how thathappens to me sometimes, like
you know how that happens to mesometimes.
And she's like, oh yeah.
And I'm like, no, I've seen it,but my eyes weren't open.
And she goes, no, I reallybelieve you.
I said I know you do, but I'mso excited about this Sure shit

(26:51):
when I finally gained fullconscious, I'm looking and we're
literally along the fence line.
So I'm like, put your brightson and follow the fence.
Like we have to see it, it justhappened a few seconds ago.
And she's like, okay, so shestarts driving along and of
course we didn't see anything.
But I'm like I swear that justhappened.
Like, was I sleeping?
Was I dreaming?
Did that happen?
My third eye I don't know, butI'm going to call it my third

(27:14):
eye visual and again, you guys,I wish so bad that I could
control it, because I couldprobably understand a lot more
in the afterlife.
Okay, so basically, they'resaying that there is still
underground tunnels nearBelleville, michigan, including
tunnels under the formerBelleville West High School and
the former Northland Center inSouthfield.

(27:36):
So if anyone is listeningthat's in the Belleville area or
knows about Belleville.
So when Carissa was lookingthis up, it kept saying I forgot
what college.
I think it was called NorthlandCollege, but that's where we
wanted to go, right, well, thereis no Northland College, but
there's no record of it likebeing, you know, ripped down or

(27:59):
what is in place of it, or blah,blah, blah.
But I think that is theNorthland Center.
And also the Belleville HighSchool was taken down and
there's a new high school, sothere is a lot going on there
and, um, yeah, like who wouldhave known that there was

(28:20):
underground tunnels, so theywere called pedestrian tunnels,
that went underground fromcorner to corner to avoid
waiting for heavy traffic tomove along.
Again, I'm trying to find aboutthe mine, like the mining, okay,
so dining, okay.

(28:48):
So, hmm, alright, so Linda andWood discovers untold paths and
tunnels beneath Bellevillecampus.
Now, when you look this up,this is what I wanted to get to,
okay, cause she was doing thaton her phone the other night.
So this is Belleville, illinois, right, this is what this

(29:09):
article is about, but it also isabout Belleville, michigan, but
it doesn't like it.
It doesn't like it.
It doesn't, um, what's the word?
It doesn't match up.
So we are like super fuckingconfused, and this has happened
a lot of times when we've beenplaces, you know, and it's like,
it's kind of like they juststop talking about what we're

(29:32):
looking for in Michigan and theytalk about something else, but
it both of it connects.
So there's a lot, a lot, andyou know, detroit has a lot of
tunnels and like, even like theBelle Isle Park, the tunnels in
the 1970s.
So, again, you guys, thank youfor listening out there, because
now it has even lit a biggerfire up my ass, if you will, and

(29:56):
it got me going on this idea of, okay, so these listeners, this
is connected.
There's a reason why they'relistening from these parts and I
need to go to these locationsand I need to investigate.
I need to investigate and Ineed to do a lot of research.
My favorite is researching,coming back and having facts and
we're like, wow, that's awesomeand that's why we own all these

(30:18):
books.
You know, that's why we'reconstantly buying books, we're
educating ourselves, we'rereading.
You know a lot goes into this.
This isn't like, hey, we put on, you know, spooky things like
spooky music, or we, you know,put on our spirit boxes or these
spooky apps, and you know wetussle around and navigate
through these outdoor places orsometimes even indoors, and we

(30:39):
just do it for entertainment,which we are entertained, of
course, and we enjoy and we havea passion, but really what this
comes down to is like havingfacts right and learning about
history that nobody talks about,and a lot of this history will
be gone in years to come.
So again, again, again, again,again, over and over and over.

(31:01):
You guys, thank you forlistening, thank you for being
part of those 500 listeners thatare enjoying this.
And again, you guys, pleaseemail us.
Ghost sisters 2124 at Gmail.
Again, that's ghost sisters2124 at Gmail.
If you have found us fromFacebook, and message us on
Facebook.
If you have seen me on Tik TOK,message me on Tik TOK.

(31:24):
Tell me your thoughts.
I want to know your experiencesand you know, if we put our
minds together a lot of thishistory and all of our research
and all of our experiences younever know what we're going to
uncover, right?
All right, you guys, thanks forlistening and tune in for some
more.
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.

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